[SEL] Penetrating Oils

[Judge Tommy Turner]

Yes Dave, I would imagine the tests were done by either the Acetone or
ATF manufacturers.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
Rotigel
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [SEL] Penetrating Oils


Hi Tommy, Does this friend know the meaning of the word "subjective"  
as in "subjective test?"
	Dave
PS, Do you know where I can buy some of that None stuff?

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Best, George wrote:

> Does it matter which type of ATF is used?  Type A or Type F?
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge 
> Tommy Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:28 AM
> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
> Subject: [SEL] Penetrating Oils
>
> A friend, who is an SEL member, sent the info below.  Quite
> interesting.
> Looks like I might buy a can of acetone and ATF.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY  USA
>
>
> Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out

> torque on rusted nuts.  Significant results!  They are below, as 
> forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker. 
> *Don't forget the April 2007 "Machinist's Workshop" magazine
> comparison
> test.*
> **
> *They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with
> the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a
> "scientifically rusted" environment.*
> **
>
> *Penetrating oil ..... Average load*
>
> None ..................... 516 pounds
> WD-40 .................. 238 pounds
> PB Blaster ............. 214 pounds
> Liquid Wrench ..... 127 pounds
> Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
> ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds
>
> *The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic 
> transmission fluid and acetone.*
> *Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this  
> one
> particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all
> now
> use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is
> about
> as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. *
> **
> *Your experience may vary, etc., etc.*
>
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