From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu May 1 11:11:34 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:11:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no dimensions. thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby?how do you know when you?re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 12:45:18 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:45:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Easier to just buy a reproduction battery can from Gale Rhoton in California. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:12 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no dimensions. thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid =5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Thu May 1 14:59:29 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:59:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:45 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Easier to just buy a reproduction battery can from Gale Rhoton in California. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:12 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no dimensions. thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid =5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 15:09:00 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:09:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy, I haven't heard anything about that. I didn't go to Tulare this year so I didn't see Gale. I normally setup at Tulare next to him. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:59 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 15:13:48 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:13:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something I hadn't seen before. The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? You can see a picture here: http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Thu May 1 15:29:13 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:29:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> I might have missed him ,but didn't see him there. Bigger this year than last even with fuel @ $4.25 Good luck on your California gold search ! Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:09 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Jimmy, I haven't heard anything about that. I didn't go to Tulare this year so I didn't see Gale. I normally setup at Tulare next to him. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:59 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kosh at ncweb.com Thu May 1 15:32:17 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 18:32:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.a d.adp.com> References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> Got: You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page and try again. * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation ??? Dave At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something >I hadn't seen before. > >The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was >converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that >were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first >conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > >Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > >You can see a picture here: > >http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > >George > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 15:41:55 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:41:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFAAD2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Then just go to: http://www.atis.net/forums/ George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Merchant Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:32 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine conversion Got: You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page and try again. * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation ??? Dave At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something >I hadn't seen before. > >The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was >converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that >were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first >conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > >Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > >You can see a picture here: > >http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > >George > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu May 1 16:03:47 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:03:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <01d101c8abdf$9dfa9180$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> I got that too. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Merchant" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine conversion > Got: > > You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. > This could be due to one of several reasons: > * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page > and try again. > * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you > trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some > other privileged system? > * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your > account, or it may be awaiting activation > ??? > > Dave > > At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >>This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something >>I hadn't seen before. >> >>The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was >>converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that >>were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first >>conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. >> >>Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? >> >>You can see a picture here: >> >>http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 >> >>George >> >> >>This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >>If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >>from your system. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > nesys_com at ameritech.net > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Thu May 1 17:09:52 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:09:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion Message-ID: <20080501.201228.512.0.jlb94@juno.com> I got this message also - Logged out - - - Guess it wasn't that important. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." On Thu, 01 May 2008 18:32:17 -0400 Dave Merchant writes: > Got: > > You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this > page. > This could be due to one of several reasons: > * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this > page > and try again. > * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. > Are you > trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features > or some > other privileged system? > * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled > your > account, or it may be awaiting activation > ??? > > Dave > > At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: > >This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw > something > >I hadn't seen before. > > > >The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was > >converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines > that > >were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the > first > >conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > > > >Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > > > >You can see a picture here: > > > >http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > > > >George > > > > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > the > >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. > >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > > >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please > >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments > >from your system. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > > nesys_com at ameritech.net > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu May 1 17:33:05 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:33:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <001501c8abec$16bd10a0$726f4b47@mikecomp> Just give that incomplete engine to your brother, problem solved!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan > > Jim O'Hagan > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:45 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > > Easier to just buy a reproduction battery can from Gale Rhoton in > California. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Royster > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:12 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > > >> Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? > I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no > dimensions. thanks Steve > _________________________________________________________________ > Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid > =5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From astfgl at iamnota.org Thu May 1 19:13:01 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:13:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> You have to be a member of the forum to see attachments there. Best, George wrote: > This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something > I hadn't seen before. > > The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was > converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that > were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first > conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > > Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > > You can see a picture here: > > http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From george at irontrader.com Thu May 1 19:53:18 2008 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:53:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <000001c8abff$ad2c7040$078550c0$@com> Go straight to www.atis.net/forums rather than the link I first posted. You should be able to view stuff without having to register. You need to register to post, but that's up to you. I still support the forums that Spencer announced in December. It is pretty slow there, but then the SEL email list has certainly slowed down from what it was in the past. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Glen Harris Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:13 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine conversion You have to be a member of the forum to see attachments there. Best, George wrote: > This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something > I hadn't seen before. > > The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was > converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that > were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first > conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > > Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > > You can see a picture here: > > http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu May 1 22:29:07 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:29:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <000001c8abff$ad2c7040$078550c0$@com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> <000001c8abff$ad2c7040$078550c0$@com> Message-ID: Sorry George you still have to be registered to access attachment. Kerry > Go straight to www.atis.net/forums rather than the link I first posted. > > You should be able to view stuff without having to register. You need to > register to post, but that's up to you. > From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 03:33:38 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:33:38 EDT Subject: [SEL] New toy Message-ID: In a message dated 4/30/2008 10:36:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, randmingold at hotkey.net.au writes: Over here, the attendance at shows is dropping. Both by the public and exhibitors. Soon enough we will be back to the days of a few playing together in small local groups. Reg, I think you are right on your observations. I have seen the attendance falling at shows too. Went to our first show of the spring last Saturday and noticed the exhibitors and lookers were considerably down. The large increase in gas prices is certainly going to be a deterrant. Also, I believe that the peak has been reached for the shows in general. The internet certainly helped the movement upwards for many years, but is headed down. That can be readily seen from the much shortened SEL list. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 04:04:18 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:04:18 EDT Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal Message-ID: The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very small (.080) tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair of steel plates to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the steel plates. Both pins game out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri May 2 07:02:17 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <862002.87666.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nice non-standard use of tools. Thanks for sharing. Alan --- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very small (.080) > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair of steel plates > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the steel plates. Both pins game > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri May 2 09:23:30 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:23:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: <862002.87666.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080502162336.86E4140546A@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Thanks, Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bowen Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:02 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] tapered pin removal Nice non-standard use of tools. Thanks for sharing. Alan --- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very small (.080) > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair of steel plates > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the steel plates. Both pins game > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri May 2 09:57:39 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:57:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: does anyone have an e-mail address or phonefor Gale? Thanks Steve> From: jdohagan at comcast.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:29:13 -0700> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > I might have missed him ,but didn't see him there. Bigger this year than> last even with fuel @ $4.25 Good luck on your California gold search !> Jimmy> > Jim O'Hagan> -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:09 PM> To: The SEL email discussion list> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > Jimmy,> > I haven't heard anything about that. I didn't go to Tulare this year so> I didn't see Gale. I normally setup at Tulare next to him.> > George> > -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim> O'Hagan> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:59 PM> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? 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Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008 From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 10:15:32 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:15:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFB24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Doing a Google search I came up with this: Gale Rhoton 939 Leonardo Way Hayward, CA 94541 1-510-782-6959 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:58 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help does anyone have an e-mail address or phonefor Gale? Thanks Steve> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kosh at ncweb.com Fri May 2 11:20:53 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 14:20:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: <862002.87666.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. Dave Merchant At 10:02 AM 5/2/2008, you wrote: >Nice non-standard use of tools. >Thanks for sharing. >Alan > > >--- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very > small (.080) > > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair > of steel plates > > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the > steel plates. Both pins game > > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > > > Tom Schmutz > > Concord, Va. > > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Be a better friend, newshound, and >know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it >now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 11:38:03 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri May 2 13:31:40 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 16:31:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFB24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFB24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Thanks George, I'll give hima call. Steve> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:15:32 -0500> From: George_Best at adp.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > Doing a Google search I came up with this:> > Gale Rhoton 939 Leonardo Way Hayward, CA 94541 1-510-782-6959> > -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve> Royster> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:58 AM> To: The SEL email discussion list> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > > does anyone have an e-mail address or phonefor Gale? Thanks Steve> > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_mobile_052008 From shop at cccomm.net Fri May 2 13:33:37 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:33:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> How much clearance is there? If you're only after a few thousands I'd consider milling the cap. It would probably work long enough to out live us........... Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri May 2 13:42:59 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:42:59 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080502204303.A1B1D30285B@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> George Are the bronze bearings one or two piece? Is the crank still round? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 13:46:02 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:46:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D2A24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Dave, I don't know yet. This is on a vertical 1 cylinder engine and I haven't split the crankcase yet to have better access to the crank journal. You're right that possibly milling the rod cap would tighten it up enough. It would also be the quickest fix although some purist may not approve of this method. I need to split the crankcase so I am no longer working through hand holes so I can get better measurements. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Ernst Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:34 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing How much clearance is there? If you're only after a few thousands I'd consider milling the cap. It would probably work long enough to out live us........... Dave This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 13:50:20 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:50:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <20080502204303.A1B1D30285B@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080502204303.A1B1D30285B@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D2A268@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy, It has a two piece bearing. If the journal is not round, then having it built up is about the only option as the other fixes would only lessen the amount of slop but never resolve the problem. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing George Are the bronze bearings one or two piece? Is the crank still round? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri May 2 14:23:16 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 14:23:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D2A268@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080502214534.1E62C444857@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Yes Sir! Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing Jimmy, It has a two piece bearing. If the journal is not round, then having it built up is about the only option as the other fixes would only lessen the amount of slop but never resolve the problem. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing George Are the bronze bearings one or two piece? Is the crank still round? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 15:38:58 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:38:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing Message-ID: George, I recently told someone how I fixed my Famous rod with bronze bearings a few years ago. The journal is round, but the bearings oval from use, with most of the wear along the length of the rod. Machined the bearing cap edges where they meet until the bearings were a nice fit to the journal. Perpendicular to the rod may still be slightly loose, but will last a long time for you and the shows. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Fri May 2 19:10:51 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 10:10:51 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <481BC9AB.50303@optusnet.com.au> === There is a technique known as "upsetting", used to be well known and practised by the gentlemen of the Blacksmithing Guild. Basically, it consists of rendering a metal object thicker by pressing or hitting it on one end. I have used this in extremis to make a bush "fatter" (albeit slightly shorter) to reduce its internal diameter slightly. If the shortening is critical, shims may be applied. Technique requires turning up a couple of mandrels and a sleeve to keep the whole plot in alignment, and giving it a calibrated bash on the sleeve on one end, against a shoulder on the inner mandrel. Sounds brutal, and is probably best suited to Land Rovers and BSAs. JW? === > What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main > bearing and there are no shims to remove. > > 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. > 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be > used. > 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. > > I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as > it is something I can probably do. > > Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go > but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. > > George From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri May 2 20:28:10 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 20:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <804842.1179.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Dave, Look at the picture again. 8>)) Looks to me like there are Vise Grips pliers right there. Just how would Tom bolt those plates to the Vise Grips and have room for what I will call his shock rod? My guess is Tom gave the Vise Grips a thought too. Then came up with a better plan. 8>)) Alan --- Dave Merchant wrote: > Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. > > Dave Merchant > > > At 10:02 AM 5/2/2008, you wrote: > >Nice non-standard use of tools. > >Thanks for sharing. > >Alan > > > > > >--- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > > > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very > > small (.080) > > > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > > > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > > > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair > > of steel plates > > > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > > > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the > > steel plates. Both pins game > > > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > > > > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > > > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > > > > > Tom Schmutz > > > Concord, Va. > > > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > > family > > > favorites at AOL Food. > > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SEL mailing list > > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Be a better friend, newshound, and > >know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jmackess at twcny.rr.com Sat May 3 07:06:40 2008 From: jmackess at twcny.rr.com (James Mackessy) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal References: Message-ID: <001301c8ad26$eb9b38c0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> Tom; I applaud your ingenuity on coming up with a solution to a problem that is usually a real PITA. As to the idea of Vice Grips, we use them at work to pull blade sections from steel rule dies, and we modify them to be slide hammer equippped. We found that replacing the lock screw didn't work very well, so we drill a hole in the upper handle in back of where the jaw attaches and put a shoulder bolt through it and a yoke we make by bending a piece of 1/2" x 1/8" steel into a U-shape about 8" long. We put a piece of 5/8" round stock in the bottom of the U and weld it in, and drill and tap a hole for a 1/4" threaded rod. Any piece of round stock with a 9/32" hole drilled through it works for a slide, depending on the weight we need, and a locknut and washer finishes it off. It's one of those tools you don't use often, but when you need it, nothing else will do, (well, almost nothing else, as we've seen here!). Thanks for sharing! Jim Mackessy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] tapered pin removal > > In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:27:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, kosh at ncweb.com > writes: > > Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. > > > > Dave, > > Thought about that, but would have had to replace the locking screw with a > long screw with a slide hammer on it. You just could not pull, but had to have > some type of slide hammer effect. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ltl85 at hotmail.com Sat May 3 14:34:55 2008 From: ltl85 at hotmail.com (Siz allison) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:34:55 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spark Dynamo Message-ID: Hello, wanted Carlisle and Finch spark dynamo,complete or parts or similar unit for my White Gasoline Engine, Thanks Siz _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat May 3 20:29:21 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 23:29:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> Here is some info regarding the auction in Sugar Grove (Boone) NC (Triplett Auction) It was a great auction and Bill was very pleased. The crowd was small but everyone seemed to be a buyer. The largest bid number I saw was in the 60's. Possibly fuel prices have curtailed the crowds a bit. The sale started very slow. Oilers were the first items on the block. Bill's collection of brass was one of the best. There were bargains at the beginning, #3 and #4 Lunk. old style Paragons (in great condition) bringing $85 to $100. But after a few minutes the crowd warmed up and things began to bring somewhat retail prices. Here is just a "smattering" of some of the brass that sold (as I explained, the prices were a bit all over the board due to the slow start) A 6.75% sales tax was added to the final price at checkout (the prices I've quoted don't include the sales tax). There was no buyer's premium: Paragon Old Style (nice oilers) #4 thru #6 sizes $85 - $120 each #2 Mars (nice) $475 #3 Mars (nice) $500 Full Set of Lunk. Paragon oilers (Including the #8), most in nice condition, all oilers were the early style with the inverted hex on the base, all were mounted on a board: $1100 (a very good buy I think) Full set of Lunk Sentinels (including #8), later style Setinels, very nice condition, mounted on board: $1700 #2 Lunk Ruby, nice condition: $1000 #2 Lunk Ruby, not quite as good as above: $500 Full set of Lunk. Paragons (including #8) old style but with regular hex bottom, mounted on board: $1700 Lonergan wine glass oilers, various styles and sizes (most were smaller), all with embossed glasses, some with flip up top, some with pillar top: $275 to $500 As for the engines, you can view them at the auction website: http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html along with a pretty good description of each engine. The prices show are what the buyer had to pay the cashier as there was a 6.75% sales tax on each engine (I left off the odd cents and there was no buyer's premium): 4 HP Geiser - $53,375 6 HP Geiser - $43,767 7 HP Foos - $10,675 8 HP Westinghouse - $7,205 10 HP Otto - $16,012 12 HP FM Type N - $29,356 6 HP Mogul - $6,618 15 HP Titan - $24,552 4 1/2 HP GSM - $3,202 4 1/2 HP Gearless Olds - $21,350 12 HP Olds (Hopper Cooled) - $9,607 12 HP Olds (Tank Cooled) - $13,877 2 HP Domestic - $1,601 15 HP Reid - $320 20 HP Oil City Boiler Works - $4,163 12 HP Reid - $2,562 25 HP Superior Industrial - $19,748 20 HP Superior - $3,202 20 HP Evans - $3,202 20 HP Olin/Titusville - $3,736 20 HP Olin/Titusville - $3,202 20 HP Simplex - $4,803 20 HP Reid - $1,547 ?HP Pattin Bros - $1,227 One tidbit of info I'll add here. The 12 HP FM Type N is an engine I used to own. I purchased the engine in Beattyville, KY in 1976 and it had been rigged up to run an oil well. I paid $35 for it. Looks like inflation got hold of it! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From Germoamer at aol.com Sun May 4 05:38:19 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 08:38:19 EDT Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal Message-ID: In a message dated 5/2/2008 11:36:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes: My guess is Tom gave the Vise Grips a thought too. Then came up with a better plan. Alan, You got that right. The problem I saw with replacing the adjusting screw was that it pulled off center too. Jim's method of attaching a yoke to the vice grips worked out much better like he said. If I had taken a much wider angle picture you would have seen much other junk lying on top of the work bench too! Floors! Walls! Etc! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun May 4 07:27:00 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:27:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> Tommy, The one thing missing from your EXCELLENT report is a description of the engines that followed YOU home!! See ya, Arnie Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > Here is some info regarding the auction in Sugar Grove (Boone) NC > (Triplett Auction) > > As for the engines, you can view them at the auction website: > http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html From Germoamer at aol.com Sun May 4 08:35:18 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:35:18 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: 2 HP Domestic - $1,601 Tommy, The Domestic price seems to be a good buy if it was in running condition, and no repairs. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 4 09:36:17 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 12:36:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481DE601.3000906@scrtc.com> Yes, I thought it was a good buy. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, >lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: > >2 HP Domestic - $1,601 > > > >Tommy, > >The Domestic price seems to be a good buy if it was in running condition, >and no repairs. > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > >**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family >favorites at AOL Food. >(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 4 09:40:09 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 12:40:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> Arnie, I purchased the Westinghouse, but was buying it for a friend who wanted it. I brought home some brass items and a mag. I would have loved to have the 4 HP Geiser. I've got its twin except mine is the old style and the one at the auction was the new style. It would have been neat to have the pair. Based on what they brought, I wished I still had all the Geiser's that I've owed through the years. I know of 12 that I've had and I might be leaving one off. I've still got 6 here so I guess that's enough! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: >Tommy, > >The one thing missing from your EXCELLENT report is a description of the engines >that followed YOU home!! > >See ya, Arnie > >Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > > > >>Here is some info regarding the auction in Sugar Grove (Boone) NC >>(Triplett Auction) >> >>As for the engines, you can view them at the auction website: >>http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun May 4 10:16:03 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:16:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> Message-ID: On May 4, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I know of 12 that > I've had and I might be leaving one off. I've still got 6 here so I > guess that's enough! Hey Tommy, It's no wonder the going rate on Geisers is through the roof. You've cornered the market and are driving the prices up! Very shrewd, my friend. Rob P.S. Do you also run oil and energy companies? From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 4 11:16:38 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 14:16:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <481DFD86.1050707@scrtc.com> Hey Rob, I bought 2 of them for less than $500 each so I couldn't say no to them! Evidently the largest Geiser dealer was located in Nashville, TN. I've gotten 5 out of TN with sizes ranging from 2 HP (that I still have) to 16 HP (that I traded off). I've got a 4 HP that came from about 15 miles from my home. The gent gave it to me but thinking it was a 6 HP Z Fairbanks Morse (a hard lesson learned as I never went and looked at the engine), I gave him the name of some guys who were new to collecting as I was sure they would really love to have it. After they brought it home (and I spent a day crying after I saw it), I had to begin trying to trade them out of it. Its a dandy engine, original pin stripes, etc. Sadly, I traded off what was probably the best original portable there is. Sam Harmon has it now and if anyone has been to his place and seen the dandy 6 HP portable, that used to be in my barn (and wished it still was!). Tommy Turner > > >Hey Tommy, >It's no wonder the going rate on Geisers is through the roof. You've >cornered the market and are driving the prices up! Very shrewd, my >friend. > >Rob > >P.S. >Do you also run oil and energy companies? > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Sun May 4 18:00:17 2008 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:00:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From george at irontrader.com Sun May 4 19:18:20 2008 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From george at irontrader.com Sun May 4 19:22:53 2008 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:22:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <000001c8ae56$ed14e850$c73eb8f0$@com> Allis-Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nox2743 at blackfoot.net Sun May 4 19:48:15 2008 From: nox2743 at blackfoot.net (Daybreak Farms) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:48:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> Message-ID: Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. PK -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM From oldironnut at alltel.net Mon May 5 04:51:50 2008 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 07:51:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> Howdy all, Because of all of the work building the house, we have not been able to play engines since Portland 2006! Finally yesterday we latched onto the Famous with my granddad's 1948 SC Case tractor and drug her out of the corner of the barn so we could then roll her out to do a little work. After a little tlc to get her running again we started sawing on our huge pile of scrap wood. The goal was to cut the scrap wood up into lengths that would work as kindling for starting our winter fireplace fires. The Famous ran beautifully and were were able to easily saw a bunch of the scrap into great kindling. I do have a question on how to fix a little problem. The clutch pulley on the Famous is a regulation IHC clutch pulley with wooden blocks responsible for engaging the pulley. On some of the bigger or harder chunks of wood the clutch pulley would "slip" a little and even though the engine speed was not phased the blade would slow down a bit. Is there anything that we can treat the clutch wood with to make it more "sticky?" See ya', Mike From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 5 05:05:56 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:05:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> Message-ID: <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> Mike, Check to see if the area where the wooden shoes grip is "slick" and shiny. If so, take some 80 grit sandpaper and score this area good. Also, adjust the grip on the shoes to make sure they fit tight. Make sure that all are gripping to about the same degree. My guess is your engine has been in a dry shed and the wood has shrunk a bit allowing them not to grip to the same degree they did before. If this is the case, a good wet down of the shoe wood might fix the problem. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Howdy all, > >Because of all of the work building the house, we have not been able to >play engines since Portland 2006! Finally yesterday we latched onto the >Famous with my granddad's 1948 SC Case tractor and drug her out of the >corner of the barn so we could then roll her out to do a little work. >After a little tlc to get her running again we started sawing on our >huge pile of scrap wood. The goal was to cut the scrap wood up into >lengths that would work as kindling for starting our winter fireplace >fires. The Famous ran beautifully and were were able to easily saw a >bunch of the scrap into great kindling. > >I do have a question on how to fix a little problem. The clutch pulley >on the Famous is a regulation IHC clutch pulley with wooden blocks >responsible for engaging the pulley. On some of the bigger or harder >chunks of wood the clutch pulley would "slip" a little and even though >the engine speed was not phased the blade would slow down a bit. Is >there anything that we can treat the clutch wood with to make it more >"sticky?" > >See ya', >Mike >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From gastzt at aol.com Mon May 5 08:03:14 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:03:14 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: nice list work! Thanks so much! Stan, Pleasanton, Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From curt at rustyiron.com Mon May 5 09:48:19 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> Message-ID: <54651.168.215.206.73.1210006099.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Mike, Sounds like a real day of fun! Now we need to get you to Cotton Ginning Days and set up up sawing wood with the rest of us! Have you tried simply making an adjustment to the shoes, making the pressure when engaged tighter? That's usually all it takes. Curt > Howdy all, > > Because of all of the work building the house, we have not been able to > play engines since Portland 2006! Finally yesterday we latched onto the > Famous with my granddad's 1948 SC Case tractor and drug her out of the > corner of the barn so we could then roll her out to do a little work. > After a little tlc to get her running again we started sawing on our > huge pile of scrap wood. The goal was to cut the scrap wood up into > lengths that would work as kindling for starting our winter fireplace > fires. The Famous ran beautifully and were were able to easily saw a > bunch of the scrap into great kindling. > > I do have a question on how to fix a little problem. The clutch pulley > on the Famous is a regulation IHC clutch pulley with wooden blocks > responsible for engaging the pulley. On some of the bigger or harder > chunks of wood the clutch pulley would "slip" a little and even though > the engine speed was not phased the blade would slow down a bit. Is > there anything that we can treat the clutch wood with to make it more > "sticky?" > > See ya', > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Mon May 5 11:06:06 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:06:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results References: Message-ID: <001d01c8aeda$b0d67f50$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> We everywhere , man . Chuck , Mathis Tx > nice list work! Thanks so much! > Stan, Pleasanton, Tx > From gastzt at aol.com Mon May 5 11:11:13 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:11:13 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: AMEN to that--ha! Stan Pleasanton, Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From gastzt at aol.com Mon May 5 11:23:39 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:23:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: Chuck (in Mathis) seems like I met you down the line--- went to a show in Mathis area about 200 years ago---LOL, I brought an old ECONOMY engine---- Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From blcksmth at wcnet.org Mon May 5 16:25:36 2008 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:25:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> Message-ID: <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs some engine parts. It is not a diesel. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. PK -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at btes.tv Mon May 5 16:32:04 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:32:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <041441fe5cd98bb90679413e33f38484@btes.tv> Mike, try soaking the wood blocks with water with a little molasses mixed in, or soak them in water, coat with molasses and wipe off the excess after a while. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Mon May 5 17:49:40 2008 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:49:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <041441fe5cd98bb90679413e33f38484@btes.tv> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> <041441fe5cd98bb90679413e33f38484@btes.tv> Message-ID: <84B251EA-9F75-499E-9C44-27CF9429BA4A@rustyiron.com> what about applying some raw linseed oil to the wood? it would feed the wood from drying out and [as anyone know who's applied raw LO by mistake] would have a tacky outside to provide gription (technical term) on the metal surface ( also like Tommy's suggestion of roughing up the surface to remove any surface glaze) ********** Kelley Garcia La habra Kalifornia On May 5, 2008, at 4:32 PM, John Culp wrote: > Mike, try soaking the wood blocks with water with a little molasses > mixed in, or soak them in water, coat with molasses and wipe off the > excess after a while. > > John Culp > Bristol, Tennessee, USA > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue May 6 07:22:05 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:22:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D8EFCC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Bob, Could be we're all talking about different Buda's. You wrote Budda and I assumed you meant Buda. So it is very likely that the Budda Earth Drill company has no connection at all to Buda other than having a similar name. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:26 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs some engine parts. It is not a diesel. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. PK -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue May 6 08:42:44 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:42:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> Hi Bob, Isn't the Buda Earth Drill an add-on device to any tractor? see http://hydrogenguy.com/machines.htm where one is for sale. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Willman" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs > some engine parts. It is not a diesel. > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 > cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also > the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. > PK > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > > As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. > > I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, > but at the moment I can't name any. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] OT tractors > > Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about > Budda gas tractors? > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 > 11:22 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Tue May 6 11:55:05 2008 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:55:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com><002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: <000601c8afaa$b53a0a00$3464a8c0@Eagle> It is quite possible - I have not seen the machine. We were at a blacksmith get-together over the weekend and he was telling me about the earth drill and needed some parts for the engine. It may be on a Buda gas tractor. He said that he could find info on Buda diesels but nothing on the gasoline version. I offered to inquire here to see if I could find any leads to information. He did say he thought it was used to drill holes for utility poles. Thanks. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:43 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors Hi Bob, Isn't the Buda Earth Drill an add-on device to any tractor? see http://hydrogenguy.com/machines.htm where one is for sale. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Willman" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs > some engine parts. It is not a diesel. > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 > cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also > the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. > PK > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > > As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. > > I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, > but at the moment I can't name any. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] OT tractors > > Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about > Budda gas tractors? > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 > 11:22 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 6 13:04:11 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:04:11 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Cat 1Y73 engine and Dynamometer Message-ID: <6f6025160805061304t2594b73ex3327e62b8d707b05@mail.gmail.com> We've been beavering away for the past few weeks, getting the Cat trolley ready and mounting the engine and dyno onto it. Mostly finished today, we sail for Nuenen on Friday am. Hope to get the Onan radiator flushed through Thursday, then that will come as well. General thread of the job here: http://www.stationaryengine.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4482 Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Tue May 6 13:04:32 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:04:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 Message-ID: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi guys, Just finished loading the camper van and trailer for nuenen, we shall be setting off at sparrow fart am on thursday to head for the ferry crossing that night. We should arrive on site sometime on friday, if you are going to the show drop by and say hello as it is always good to put a face to a name. We should be easily found as there will be a blue shelter with the SCOTTISH flag flyiong above it. See ya , Craig in Sunny Scotland From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 6 13:39:30 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:39:30 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/6 craig morrison : > Hi guys, > Just finished loading the camper van and trailer for nuenen, we shall be setting off at sparrow fart am on thursday to head for the ferry crossing that night. We should arrive on site sometime on friday, if you are going to the show drop by and say hello as it is always good to put a face to a name. > We should be easily found as there will be a blue shelter with the SCOTTISH flag flyiong above it. > > See ya , Craig in Sunny Scotland We'll be crossing on Friday morning, should be there in the evening. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue May 6 14:46:59 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:46:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <1210110419.4820d1d3e443a@webmail.city-net.com> Another way to spot Craig's exhibit... Just look for a fat, bearded Yank hanging around drinking his beer and eating his crisps. 8-)) I fly out Friday, arriving in Amsterdam at sparrow fart Saturday morning. I'll see y'all sometime on Saturday. Rumor has it that Jim and Dolly should be dragging in sometime Saturday as well. Nev Beatty is also gonna be there at some point. SOMEONE needs to arrange for a couple of SEL Group photos at Neunen!! Add in Peter & Rita and it looks like we'll have a pretty good group!! See ya, Arnie Quoting craig morrison : > Just finished loading the camper van and trailer for nuenen, we > shall be setting off at sparrow fart am on thursday to head for the ferry > crossing that night. We should arrive on site sometime on friday, if you are > going to the show drop by and say hello as it is always good to put a face to > a name. > We should be easily found as there will be a blue shelter with the > SCOTTISH flag flying above it. > > See ya , Craig in Sunny Scotland From russell at ncable.com.au Tue May 6 15:45:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:45:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and then get some sites held. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From Peterwoodmore at aol.com Tue May 6 16:47:04 2008 From: Peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peterwoodmore at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:47:04 EDT Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? Message-ID: Hi Russell The Sydney club has 3 house boats booked so we can tie up right next to the rally ground Peter Woodmore. peterwoodmore at aol.com Skype name Woadmere From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Tue May 6 18:09:13 2008 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:09:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] national rally next year Message-ID: G'day Russell , sounds like a great idea, you can put me down for it,cheers Dave _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT From russell at ncable.com.au Tue May 6 22:53:25 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:53:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507155224.022cb8b0@ncable.com.au> Sounds like a great idea Peter, Did they slug you much for them?? Wouldn't be to bad shared buy a few people? Russell At 09:47 AM 7/05/2008, you wrote: >Hi Russell >The Sydney club has 3 house boats booked so we can tie up right next to the >rally ground > >Peter Woodmore. >peterwoodmore at aol.com >Skype name Woadmere >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed May 7 03:01:01 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:01:01 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT Message-ID: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the worst around our engine sites its worth sharing. Curt ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" To: "Curt Andree" , , "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" , "edward cronin" , "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" , "Don & Patsy Larson" , "Jim & Annette Larson" , "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" , "Steve and Jan Pf ile" < sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" , "Doris & Dale Weber" , "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" , "Linda Werntz" , "Kenneth J. Wientjes" Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" Subject: Fw: Bee Stings Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 Subject: Fw: Bee Stings This information may be something to remember, as this season will soon be here again... It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee and hornet while working in the garden. My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was Infected and needed an antibiotic. The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on the bite for 15 minutes'. That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she just wasn't allergic to the sting. Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny took the string out of the bite immediately. In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. She got stung again a few days later upon her back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. Wanted to share this marvelous information in case you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of pennies on hand . The doctor said that the copper in the penny counteracts the bite. It definitely works! Please remember and pass this information on to your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Wed May 7 03:46:04 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:46:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> Good one Curt, I'll have to look in the coin collection for a penny as we don't have any in the new currency Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:01 PM To: SEL Lists Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the worst around our engine sites its worth sharing. Curt ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" To: "Curt Andree" , , "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" , "edward cronin" , "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" , "Don & Patsy Larson" , "Jim & Annette Larson" , "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" , "Steve and Jan Pf ile" < sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" , "Doris & Dale Weber" , "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" , "Linda Werntz" , "Kenneth J. Wientjes" Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" Subject: Fw: Bee Stings Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 Subject: Fw: Bee Stings This information may be something to remember, as this season will soon be here again... It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee and hornet while working in the garden. My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was Infected and needed an antibiotic. The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on the bite for 15 minutes'. That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she just wasn't allergic to the sting. Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny took the string out of the bite immediately. In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. She got stung again a few days later upon her back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. Wanted to share this marvelous information in case you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of pennies on hand . The doctor said that the copper in the penny counteracts the bite. It definitely works! Please remember and pass this information on to your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 7 03:57:29 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:57:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> Message-ID: <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ Al Harris cameron grundy wrote: > Good one Curt, I'll have to look in the coin collection for a penny as we > don't have any in the new currency > Cam > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > cgandree at mchsi.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:01 PM > To: SEL Lists > Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > > Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later > summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the > worst > around our engine sites its worth sharing. > Curt > Subject: Fw: Bee Stings > > > This information may be something to remember, as > this season will soon be here > again... > > It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket > while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! > > A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee > and hornet while working in the garden. > > My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The > clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was > getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was > Infected and > needed an antibiotic. > > The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on > the bite for 15 minutes'. > > That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I > looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, > I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next > morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she > just wasn't allergic to the sting. > > Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, > twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here > I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. > > I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies > to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny > took the string out of the bite immediately. > > In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my > friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next > morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had > stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting > was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. > > She got stung again a few days later upon her > back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. > > Wanted to share this marvelous information in case > you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of > pennies on hand . > > The doctor said that the copper in the penny > counteracts the bite. It definitely works! > > Please remember and pass this information on to > your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed May 7 04:13:39 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:13:39 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C0 3BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <1676.218.214.134.238.1210158819.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> > Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later > summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the > worst > around our engine sites its worth sharing. > Curt > > Just run a Maytag. No chance any insects would live through the poison smoke clouds :). From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed May 7 04:18:46 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:18:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1695.218.214.134.238.1210159126.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Of course, you'd have to put a fence around them and turn them so their engines faced away from the bank and made sure you didn't move them during the rally... couldn't resist. I'm considering going along as a member of the public. The NHMA and I still don't get along so no chance of being an exhibitor. Might even make a Scout trip out of it... Regards Paul > Hi Russell > The Sydney club has 3 house boats booked so we can tie up right next to > the > rally ground > > Peter Woodmore. > peterwoodmore at aol.com > Skype name Woadmere > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Wed May 7 04:36:04 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 04:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C0 3BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <2463.165.206.180.192.1210160164.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> LOL, that poor fellow must live in a bee hive or be on their most wanted list or have the worst luck in the world. Never heard of anyone and their family getting stung so often in such a short time! We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the river and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for me......... and I'm mildly allergic. > Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later > summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the > worst > around our engine sites its worth sharing. > Curt > > > ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- > From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" > To: "Curt Andree" , , > "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" > , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" > , "edward cronin" , > "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" > , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee > & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , > "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" > , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan > Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted > and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" > , "Don & Patsy Larson" > , "Jim & Annette Larson" , > "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" > , "Steve and Jan Pf > ile" < > sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy > Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" > , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne > & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" > , "Doris & Dale Weber" , > "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" > , "Linda Werntz" , > "Kenneth J. Wientjes" > Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" > Subject: Fw: Bee Stings > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: Fw: Bee Stings > > > This information may be something to remember, as > this season will soon be here > again... > > It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket > while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! > > A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee > and hornet while working in the garden. > > My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The > clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was > getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was > Infected and > needed an antibiotic. > > The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on > the bite for 15 minutes'. > > That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I > looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, > I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next > morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she > just wasn't allergic to the sting. > > Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, > twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here > I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. > > I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies > to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny > took the string out of the bite immediately. > > In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my > friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next > morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had > stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting > was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. > > She got stung again a few days later upon her > back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. > > Wanted to share this marvelous information in case > you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of > pennies on hand . > > The doctor said that the copper in the penny > counteracts the bite. It definitely works! > > Please remember and pass this information on to > your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From b2 at chooka.net Wed May 7 05:14:15 2008 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:14:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <04b001c8b03b$defcaf00$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local> I sure wouldn't be above giving this a try, but Snopes' report isn't too encouraging: www.snopes.com/medical/homecure/beesting.asp At least the report was written with a sense of humor, it's entertaining to read. B? Bill Brueck Chatfield, Minnesota, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:01 AM To: SEL Lists Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the worst around our engine sites its worth sharing. Curt ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" To: "Curt Andree" , , "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" , "edward cronin" , "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" , "Don & Patsy Larson" , "Jim & Annette Larson" , "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" , "Steve and Jan Pf ile" < sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" , "Doris & Dale Weber" , "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" , "Linda Werntz" , "Kenneth J. Wientjes" Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" Subject: Fw: Bee Stings Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 Subject: Fw: Bee Stings This information may be something to remember, as this season will soon be here again... It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee and hornet while working in the garden. My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was Infected and needed an antibiotic. The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on the bite for 15 minutes'. That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she just wasn't allergic to the sting. Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny took the string out of the bite immediately. In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. She got stung again a few days later upon her back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. Wanted to share this marvelous information in case you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of pennies on hand . The doctor said that the copper in the penny counteracts the bite. It definitely works! Please remember and pass this information on to your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed May 7 05:17:25 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:17:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> HI Russell, I am thinking of going but have not committed myself as yet. I may have to get my act together and finish another engine or two to take along :) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and then get some sites held. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed May 7 06:18:52 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:18:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >> Al Harris We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the river and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for me......... and I'm mildly allergic. >> Bill D I dont mess with wasps I wont be bumping into , but. With theAfricanized bees , you will need at least 1 , and more often than not , 3 - 4 rolls of pennies . http://www.mangosteen-testimonials.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/aloe_top41.jpg This is the stuff we keep growing all over the place for just such an emergency . Los Curandero Chuck From obise at moscow.com Wed May 7 07:32:24 2008 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:32:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <200805071432.m47EWZnM031348@mail-gw.fsr.net> Wasps thrive where we live and I'm always getting stung by them. When that happens I apply a bit of liquid laundry bleach (sodium hypochlorite) to the wound with a cotton swab. It is very effective. The pain and swelling stops almost immediately. I have not used bleach on bee stings, but it is worth a try. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Balyeat Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:19 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >> Al Harris We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the river and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for me......... and I'm mildly allergic. >> Bill D From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed May 7 08:20:28 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:20:28 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4821C8BC.20202@optusnet.com.au> Al Harris wrote: > I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ > > Al Harris === I had the same problem, which I solved by just writing a cheque for one penny and sticking that on. JW? === From rotigel at alltel.net Wed May 7 08:33:21 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:33:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <200805071432.m47EWZnM031348@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200805071432.m47EWZnM031348@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: I've found that after being stun a Six Pack of Old Mill helps greatly. If the beer is consumed fast enough the sting(s) still hurt-- but you don't give a damn! Dave PS, The "penny thing" is something ONLY a FATG (or a democrat) would believe! -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 7, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > Wasps thrive where we live and I'm always getting stung by them. > When that > happens I apply a bit of liquid laundry bleach (sodium > hypochlorite) to the > wound with a cotton swab. It is very effective. The pain and > swelling > stops almost immediately. > > I have not used bleach on bee stings, but it is worth a try. > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck > Balyeat > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:19 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > >> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether >> to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >>> Al Harris > We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the > river > and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for > me......... and I'm mildly allergic. >>> Bill D > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 7 13:29:00 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 06:29:00 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <4822110C.60503@gmail.com> 3 - 4 rolls, shite. :-( Maybe copper pipe armlets and a Ned Kelly hat is what's needed. Chuck Balyeat wrote: > > I dont mess with wasps I wont be bumping into , but. > With theAfricanized bees , you will need at least 1 , > and more often than not , 3 - 4 rolls of pennies . > From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 7 13:30:01 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 06:30:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <4821C8BC.20202@optusnet.com.au> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> <4821C8BC.20202@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <48221149.20901@gmail.com> LOL Jack Watson wrote: > Al Harris wrote: >> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether >> to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >> >> Al Harris > === > I had the same problem, which I solved by just writing a cheque for one > penny and sticking that on. > JW? > === > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed May 7 15:52:49 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:52:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com><002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <4822110C.60503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003c01c8b095$13615260$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> >3 - 4 rolls, shite. :-( > Maybe copper pipe armlets and a Ned Kelly hat is what's needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not unusual to hear of someone with a 1000 stings . From russell at ncable.com.au Wed May 7 15:58:39 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 08:58:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> Patrick you have no excuses now as you have a permanent helper :-) Russell At 10:17 PM 7/05/2008, you wrote: >HI Russell, > I am thinking of going but have not committed myself as yet. I may >have to get my act together and finish another engine or two to take along >:) > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > >-----Original Message----- > > >G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National >Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally >feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk >would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun >with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The >sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe >build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. >Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, >stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also >organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel >or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and >then get some sites held. > >regards Russell >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Wed May 7 20:13:35 2008 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:13:35 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000601c8afaa$b53a0a00$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com><002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> <000601c8afaa$b53a0a00$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <48226FDF.1070001@xplornet.com> Hello Bob, Hope this helps. Did you try googling "Buda gas engines"? I get about 10000 hits but I can't search further as I don't know the model number of the engine. Also, some Cockshutt (Oliver) and Allis-Chalmers tractors used a 4 cylinder gas Buda engine. Bob Willman wrote: > blacksmith get-together over the weekend and he was telling me about the > earth drill and needed some parts for the engine. It may be on a Buda gas > tractor. He said that he could find info on Buda diesels but nothing on the > gasoline version. I offered to inquire here to see if I could find any leads > to information. He did say he thought it was used to drill holes for utility > poles. > > Thanks. > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:43 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > Hi Bob, Isn't the Buda Earth Drill an add-on device to any tractor? > see http://hydrogenguy.com/machines.htm where one is for sale. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Willman" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > >> A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs >> some engine parts. It is not a diesel. >> >> >> Bob Willman >> Bowling Green, Ohio >> The Eagle's Anvil >> WB8NQW >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak > Farms >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors >> >> Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 >> cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. > Also >> the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info > there. >> PK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM >> To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors >> >> >> As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. >> >> I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, >> but at the moment I can't name any. >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM >> To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >> Subject: [SEL] OT tractors >> >> Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about >> Budda gas tractors? >> >> >> Bob Willman >> Bowling Green, Ohio >> The Eagle's Anvil >> WB8NQW >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 >> 11:22 AM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > -- -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 7 23:52:43 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:52:43 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/6 Listerdiesel : > We'll be crossing on Friday morning, should be there in the evening. > Going to take the loaded trailer out for a quick spin this morning, get a feel for how it handles and get some extra air in the tyres. Got it all strapped down tightly before we left the factory last evening, just got to load the van, sort the Onan speed out and that can go in the van as well. The trailer is probably near to max weight now so we'll load the other stuff, ramps etc in the van. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu May 8 02:59:48 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 09:59:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Bee Stings OT Message-ID: <050820080959.10788.4822CF14000892DE00002A24219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Yup Dave must agree the Old Mill program works for me too but as far as being a FATG or even low earth democrat it was well documented on national TV that you voted for Hillary in the primary..........you should of drank one more six pack before going to the polls. Curt ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bee Stings OT Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:28:39 +0000 > I've found that after being stun a Six Pack of Old Mill helps > greatly. If the beer is consumed fast enough the sting(s) still hurt-- > but you don't give a damn! > Dave > PS, The "penny thing" is something ONLY a FATG (or a democrat) would > believe! > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On May 7, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > > > Wasps thrive where we live and I'm always getting stung by them. > > When that > > happens I apply a bit of liquid laundry bleach (sodium > > hypochlorite) to the > > wound with a cotton swab. It is very effective. The pain and > > swelling > > stops almost immediately. > > > > I have not used bleach on bee stings, but it is worth a try. > > > > Orrin > > > > Orrin Iseminger > > Colton, Washington, USA > > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > > So many projects. So little time. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck > > Balyeat > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:19 AM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > > > >> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > >> to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ > >>> Al Harris > > We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the > > river > > and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for > > me......... and I'm mildly allergic. > >>> Bill D > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 8 07:18:10 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:18:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O><6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906DFAC00@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Have a great time at Nuenen! The weather forecast for the show is sunny days with temperatures around 77f. Much nicer weather than we had last year. Should be a great show and am sorry I couldn't make it over there this year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 2008/5/6 Listerdiesel : > We'll be crossing on Friday morning, should be there in the evening. > Going to take the loaded trailer out for a quick spin this morning, get a feel for how it handles and get some extra air in the tyres. Got it all strapped down tightly before we left the factory last evening, just got to load the van, sort the Onan speed out and that can go in the van as well. The trailer is probably near to max weight now so we'll load the other stuff, ramps etc in the van. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 8 07:38:26 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:38:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906DFAC00@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906DFAC00@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805080738r57f2357m32dbeb38d9dc5856@mail.gmail.com> On 08/05/2008, Best, George wrote: > Have a great time at Nuenen! > > The weather forecast for the show is sunny days with temperatures around > 77f. Much nicer weather than we had last year. > > Should be a great show and am sorry I couldn't make it over there this > year. > > George > We'll bring back plenty of pictures :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 8 07:50:28 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:50:28 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805080750o2748b088m7e88231249cbcd4b@mail.gmail.com> On 17/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: The Onan has let the side down right at the last knockings, the fuel pump diaphragm has split and dumped a load of petrol into the sump. Philip (No 2 son) has dashed off to our injection repair guy in the place where we used to have our factory, in Luton, he may have a later diaphragm that we can use. If that is the case, then we'll load it up now and sort that out at Nuenen. If no diaphragm then we'll leave it behind. Had a run out with the van and trailer this morning, pumped up the tyres and filled the van ready for tomorrow. All handled fine, the weight is noticeable but only on pulling a\way from a stop, on the road it doesn't notice much at all, just the occasional 'nudge' from the trailer on bumps. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From curt at rustyiron.com Thu May 8 09:53:07 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Russell, Funny it is you telling Patrick he has no excuse for not making it to a big show. How many years have you been "going to make it to Portland someday"? With the tanked value of the US dollar it won't cost you more than a couple place setting at one of your nice catered weddings to come over the pond! You're all out of excuses so man up and buy tickets for you and Carmella and come join in what is shaping up to be a banner year at Portland. Besides Missy says she REALLY misses her drinking buddy! Ozzie, Ozzie, Ozzie. Curt Holland > Patrick you have no excuses now as you have a permanent helper :-) > Russell > > > At 10:17 PM 7/05/2008, you wrote: >>HI Russell, >> I am thinking of going but have not committed myself as yet. I >> may >>have to get my act together and finish another engine or two to take >> along >>:) >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >> >>G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National >>Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally >>feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk >>would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun >>with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The >>sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe >>build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. >>Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, >>stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also >>organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel >>or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and >>then get some sites held. >> >>regards Russell >>Russell Gilbert >>Sunny Sunraysia >>russell at ncable.com.au >>http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu May 8 10:05:21 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:05:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> G'day Russell, AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to translate Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous in your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number for sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to get in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting curt at rustyiron.com: > Russell, > Funny it is you telling Patrick he has no excuse for not making it to a > big show. How many years have you been "going to make it to Portland > someday"? > With the tanked value of the US dollar it won't cost you more than a > couple place setting at one of your nice catered weddings to come over the > pond! You're all out of excuses so man up and buy tickets for you and > Carmella and come join in what is shaping up to be a banner year at > Portland. Besides Missy says she REALLY misses her drinking buddy! Ozzie, > Ozzie, Ozzie. From russell at ncable.com.au Thu May 8 15:27:01 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 08:27:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080509082139.022d4d38@ncable.com.au> Don't worry fellas it's gonna happen soon enough. Actually got Carmel to go away with me to a rally a few weeks back. Mind you she did not see a lot of engines. Had a good time shopping how ever. BTW; last time I spoke to Reggie he still sounded rather English! don't you agree :-) cheers, Russell At 03:05 AM 9/05/2008, you wrote: >G'day Russell, > >AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to translate >Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous in >your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number for >sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to get >in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > >See ya, Arnie > >Quoting curt at rustyiron.com: > > > Russell, > > Funny it is you telling Patrick he has no excuse for not making it to a > > big show. How many years have you been "going to make it to Portland > > someday"? > > With the tanked value of the US dollar it won't cost you more than a > > couple place setting at one of your nice catered weddings to come over the > > pond! You're all out of excuses so man up and buy tickets for you and > > Carmella and come join in what is shaping up to be a banner year at > > Portland. Besides Missy says she REALLY misses her drinking buddy! Ozzie, > > Ozzie, Ozzie. > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu May 8 19:41:25 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 22:41:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Earning some $$$ coming to Coolspring Message-ID: <4823B9D5.4060507@scrtc.com> Is anyone coming to Coolspring and traveling near the Port Jervis, NY / Matamoras, PA area (just off I-84)? I might have an item that needs transporting and it would be a good way to earn some fuel $$$. Don't we all need some help with this now days! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 03:31:50 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 03:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Earning some $$$ coming to Coolspring In-Reply-To: <4823B9D5.4060507@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <356068.42470.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When is Coolsprings show this year? Ron Judge Tommy Turner wrote: Is anyone coming to Coolspring and traveling near the Port Jervis, NY / Matamoras, PA area (just off I-84)? I might have an item that needs transporting and it would be a good way to earn some fuel $$$. Don't we all need some help with this now days! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From pjp at steamengine.com.au Fri May 9 03:57:14 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:57:14 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even upside down on the planet. Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. Regards Paul > G'day Russell, > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > translate > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous > in > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number > for > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to > get > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri May 9 05:47:13 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:47:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Earning some $$$ coming to Coolspring References: <356068.42470.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c8b1d2$ce9997c0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > When is Coolspring show this year? > Ron >>>>>>>>>>> And is it true , that the pink pistons ( or is it the pink pendulums?) always field a team of exhibitors ? From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 08:07:37 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings Message-ID: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. Thanks Ron Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Fri May 9 08:36:42 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:36:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5D073A9C-3476-4F34-AE4F-7480075851BF@rustyiron.com> On May 9, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org From f86sabre at kcweb.net Fri May 9 09:49:38 2008 From: f86sabre at kcweb.net (f86sabre at kcweb.net) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 11:49:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <482480A2.4090100@kcweb.net> It's June 19-21, per the Farm Collector Show Directory. Dan Bousman Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron > > > Ron > > http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 11:00:40 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <5D073A9C-3476-4F34-AE4F-7480075851BF@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <384335.93000.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks rob ron Rob Skinner wrote: On May 9, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 11:02:27 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <482480A2.4090100@kcweb.net> Message-ID: <71571.11503.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Dan Ron "f86sabre at kcweb.net" wrote: It's June 19-21, per the Farm Collector Show Directory. Dan Bousman Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron > > > Ron > > http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From russell at ncable.com.au Fri May 9 17:04:19 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:04:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine. com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> This national comming up is 400ks away from me, thats equals $100 juice each way, 2 sblabs of beer $80 and a few feeds, I own my swag so no cost there and I get to show of my lastest restoration. All for well under $500 I wouldn't miss it for quids. Russell At 08:57 PM 9/05/2008, you wrote: >Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even >upside down on the planet. > >Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from >Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation >will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a >ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An >SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the >nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some >accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. > >Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. > >Regards >Paul > > > G'day Russell, > > > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > > translate > > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous > > in > > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number > > for > > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to > > get > > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > > > See ya, Arnie > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From kimmell at verizon.net Thu May 8 20:34:55 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 22:34:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <2463.165.206.180.192.1210160164.squirrel@www.antique-engin es.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <2463.165.206.180.192.1210160164.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <0K0M00JNTW67I0M2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> I thought the same thing... in my 25 years I've been stung ONCE. -Tony At 06:36 AM 5/7/2008, you wrote: >LOL, that poor fellow must live in a bee hive or be on their most wanted >list or have the worst luck in the world. Never heard of anyone and their >family getting stung so often in such a short time! From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Sat May 10 05:36:51 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:36:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000001c8b29a$86157500$92405f00$@com.au> Hey Russell, I wish I could get there that, it's so far from here it would be six slabs and I would probably get locked up 3 or 4 times for dui. Cheers Cam. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:04 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] National next year who's going? This national comming up is 400ks away from me, thats equals $100 juice each way, 2 sblabs of beer $80 and a few feeds, I own my swag so no cost there and I get to show of my lastest restoration. All for well under $500 I wouldn't miss it for quids. Russell At 08:57 PM 9/05/2008, you wrote: >Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even >upside down on the planet. > >Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from >Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation >will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a >ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An >SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the >nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some >accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. > >Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. > >Regards >Paul > > > G'day Russell, > > > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > > translate > > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous > > in > > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number > > for > > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to > > get > > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > > > See ya, Arnie > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat May 10 21:47:40 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:47:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: <20080510.214740.1624.5.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. Today my club; WAPA was invited to display at Cal Poly Pomona University. It was a tractor/car show to draw attention to their farm store. It was a beautiful day with a perfect spot to display under a giant walnut tree. Pictures at: http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CalPoly2008 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Sun May 11 02:45:04 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:45:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] NEW TOY (Blackstone) Message-ID: <001501c8b34b$b1e31eb0$a6336c3a@fred> Our latest new toy arrived last week, it`s a 1906 single flywheel 6 1/2 HP. Blackstone with an atmospheric air inlet valve, an older restoration that has had a smaller diameter flywheel fitted at some time. If any OZ. members know where we can get the right size flywheel please contact us, an 8Hp Blackstone flywheel will fit on. size- 45" dia.x 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" Bore. or 48" x 4 1/2" x2 1/2"Bore. please contact David if you know anyone who can help. latest photos of the engine on web site below, in 2008 folder. Many thanks. David Watts (03) 87616332 damewatt at bigpond.com Brian Watts (03) 97266147 briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun May 11 04:36:53 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:36:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Not coming to US this year Message-ID: <002801c8b35b$4fc908b0$0200a8c0@altech> Hi all I will not be coming to Portland and Baraboo this year mainly due to work commitments and the costs involved. Hopefully in a couple of years things will be different. Regards Peter, Oz From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 07:10:03 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:10:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <20080510.214740.1624.5.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. Got any suggestions? Take care - Elden BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ From Germoamer at aol.com Sun May 11 06:56:09 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:56:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: In a message dated 5/11/2008 12:57:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: It was a beautiful day with a perfect spot to display under a giant walnut tree. Ron, Nice show. I love my 5 and 7 Economy's too! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From driggars at wildblue.net Sun May 11 07:48:50 2008 From: driggars at wildblue.net (Clint D) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:48:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48270752.9080207@wildblue.net> I can't find the link I had to a seller, but there is a seller on Ebay that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, search for model engine fly wheels Clint Elden DuRand wrote: > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > Got any suggestions? > > Take care - Elden > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From gastzt at aol.com Sun May 11 08:01:30 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:01:30 EDT Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: Ron I have an old 5hp Economy--- ain't crankned it up in 5 years---guess better drag it back out of storage (just moved here it all in storage--dang) trying to finish an old Stover 8hp--- need more TIME darn Stan, Pleasanton Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From gastzt at aol.com Sun May 11 08:02:11 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:02:11 EDT Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: oops---I meant TOM-- Stan **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 10:00:19 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:00:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <48270752.9080207@wildblue.net> Message-ID: Clint: Thanks, I'll go over there and have a looksee. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Clint D > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 09:49 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > I can't find the link I had to a seller, but > there is a seller on Ebay > that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, > search for model engine > fly wheels > Clint > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and > am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels > about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they > are finished and if necessary, I can bush them > for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > > > Got any suggestions? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ From obise at moscow.com Sun May 11 09:09:44 2008 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:09:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200805111610.m4BG9wsa044611@mail-gw.fsr.net> Gary Martin has a big selection of flywheels, but I don't recall anything in his lineup that will clean up to 2?" width. http://www.martinmodel.com/ http://www.martinmodel.com/products_services/flywheels/index.htm Good luck! Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden DuRand Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:10 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. Got any suggestions? Take care - Elden BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 10:53:18 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:53:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <200805111610.m4BG9wsa044611@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: Orrin: I checked his site just now. There-s one wheel that might work. Thanks! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Orrin B > Iseminger > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:10 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Gary Martin has a big selection of flywheels, but > I don't recall anything in > his lineup that will clean up to 2?" width. > > http://www.martinmodel.com/ > > http://www.martinmodel.com/products_services/flywh > eels/index.htm > > Good luck! > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 12:11:56 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:11:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <48270752.9080207@wildblue.net> Message-ID: Clint: I checked and didn't find anything but a link to a thread on Harry's. Thanks anyway. I think I've got the info I need. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Clint D > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 09:49 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > I can't find the link I had to a seller, but > there is a seller on Ebay > that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, > search for model engine > fly wheels > Clint > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and > am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels > about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they > are finished and if necessary, I can bush them > for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > > > Got any suggestions? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Sun May 11 15:41:31 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:41:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <000001c8b29a$86157500$92405f00$@com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> <000001c8b29a$86157500$92405f00$@com.au> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080512083945.0228a058@ncable.com.au> Only once Cam as they would confiscate the rest off you. You have bugger all else to do, and you should have that bum crack engine back together by them! Wel will save you a spot. Russell At 10:36 PM 10/05/2008, you wrote: >Hey Russell, I wish I could get there that, it's so far from here it would >be six slabs and I would probably get locked up 3 or 4 times for dui. Cheers >Cam. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell >Gilbert >Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:04 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] National next year who's going? > >This national comming up is 400ks away from me, thats equals $100 >juice each way, 2 sblabs of beer $80 and a few feeds, I own my swag >so no cost there and I get to show of my lastest restoration. All for >well under $500 I wouldn't miss it for quids. >Russell > > >At 08:57 PM 9/05/2008, you wrote: > >Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even > >upside down on the planet. > > > >Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from > >Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation > >will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a > >ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An > >SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the > >nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some > >accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. > > > >Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. > > > >Regards > >Paul > > > > > G'day Russell, > > > > > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > > > translate > > > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just >ridiculous > > > in > > > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast >number > > > for > > > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws >to > > > get > > > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rotigel at alltel.net Sun May 11 16:51:29 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:51:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space Message-ID: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> Hi All, I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, See you at Coolspring! Dave From jlb94 at juno.com Sun May 11 08:11:24 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:11:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels Message-ID: <20080511.202813.1152.0.jlb94@juno.com> Elden, At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell Weights for flywheels. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:48:50 -0500 Clint D writes: > I can't find the link I had to a seller, but there is a seller on > Ebay > that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, search for model > engine > fly wheels > Clint > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a > couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. > If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the > crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > > > Got any suggestions? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 11 17:51:24 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:51:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> Message-ID: <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a different location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm going to dig out of the barn to bring. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY David Rotigel wrote: >Hi All, > I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in >June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for >years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can >move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL >sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and >signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree >end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, >See you at Coolspring! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 11 23:53:13 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:53:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Tommy, Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? ;) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a different location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm going to dig out of the barn to bring. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From russell at ncable.com.au Mon May 12 03:12:38 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:12:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] NEW TOY (Blackstone) In-Reply-To: <001501c8b34b$b1e31eb0$a6336c3a@fred> References: <001501c8b34b$b1e31eb0$a6336c3a@fred> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080512201133.0208b9f8@ncable.com.au> Another nice looking engine Brian, you must have a few blackies now. Russell At 07:45 PM 11/05/2008, you wrote: >Our latest new toy arrived last week, it`s a 1906 single >flywheel 6 1/2 HP. Blackstone with an atmospheric air inlet valve, >an older restoration that has had a smaller diameter flywheel fitted >at some time. > If any OZ. members know where we can get the right size flywheel > please contact us, an 8Hp Blackstone flywheel will fit on. >size- 45" dia.x 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" Bore. >or 48" x 4 1/2" x2 1/2"Bore. >please contact David if you know anyone who can help. > >latest photos of the engine on web site below, in 2008 folder. >Many thanks. > >David Watts (03) 87616332 >damewatt at bigpond.com > >Brian Watts (03) 97266147 >briwatt at optusnet.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 05:12:15 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:12:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi Tommy, > Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? >;) > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Mon May 12 05:45:16 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:45:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> Hi Guys, I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a science by mid June! Dave PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 12, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one > cylinder > or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to > hop on > me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, > mix > the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in > which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > >> Hi Tommy, >> Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? >> ;) >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 05:45:59 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:45:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> Message-ID: <48283C07.3060006@scrtc.com> Now Dave, you wouldn't put a nice little smokey Maytag in your sights would you? Destroying a Maytag would almost be a sin (I did say ALMOST). Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi Guys, > I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is >that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a >half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a >mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a >science by mid June! > Dave >PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! > > >-------- >David Rotigel >rotigel at alltel.net > > > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Mon May 12 06:03:13 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:03:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <48283C07.3060006@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> <48283C07.3060006@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <6365F05F-BFB4-4791-A9B2-FEE323058295@alltel.net> WOW! Sorry Tommy (and all.) Somehow my post went to the wrong list. Sure don't know how that happened! Dave On May 12, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Now Dave, you wouldn't put a nice little smokey Maytag in your sights > would you? Destroying a Maytag would almost be a sin (I did say > ALMOST). > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > >> Hi Guys, >> I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is >> that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a >> half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a >> mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a >> science by mid June! >> Dave >> PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! >> >> >> -------- >> David Rotigel >> rotigel at alltel.net >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Mon May 12 06:18:09 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:18:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I just talked to Jake. He said that you are all set for your usual space. He tells me that you will be about 400 yds. away from the SEL area--not that that means anything, mind! Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 11, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location > that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a > different > location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm > going to dig out of the barn to bring. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > David Rotigel wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in >> June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for >> years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can >> move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL >> sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and >> signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree >> end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, >> See you at Coolspring! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon May 12 07:42:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:42:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <20080511.202813.1152.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: Joe: Good thinking! Now, all I gotta do is find some barbell weights! With the price of rough cast small flywheels, I've been looking for alternatives and yours is promising. Of the possibilities, I've thought of scouting a junkyard for an auto flywheel I can cut up and machine. I'd prefer to make the wheels out of cast because it is easier to machine. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jlb94 at juno.com > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Elden, > At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell > Weights for flywheels. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 08:12:22 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:12:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <48285E56.3040306@scrtc.com> Yeah Dave, I usually just drive up to Coolspring and don't have an engine set up. The last two times I've brought a trailer I've had to be pulled out with mud up to the floor (last time in fact they had to hook the Pettibone and the tractor together to get me out). That's why I like the blacktop at Portland!! Tommy Turner David Rotigel wrote: >Hi Tommy, I just talked to Jake. He said that you are all set for >your usual space. He tells me that you will be about 400 yds. away >from the SEL area--not that that means anything, mind! > Dave > > >-------- >David Rotigel >rotigel at alltel.net > > > >On May 11, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > > >>Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location >>that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a >>different >>location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm >>going to dig out of the barn to bring. >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> >>David Rotigel wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi All, >>> I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in >>>June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for >>>years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can >>>move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL >>>sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and >>>signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree >>>end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, >>>See you at Coolspring! >>> Dave >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From jlb94 at juno.com Mon May 12 07:54:08 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:54:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels Message-ID: <20080512.105425.256.4.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Eldon, We get a local classified paper around here that always has someone selling weights for $25 or so. Or - Maybe stop at a few Yard Sales. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:42:09 -0500 "Elden DuRand" writes: > Joe: > > Good thinking! Now, all I gotta do is find some barbell weights! > With the price of rough cast small flywheels, I've been looking for > alternatives and yours is promising. Of the possibilities, I've > thought of scouting a junkyard for an auto flywheel I can cut up and > machine. > > I'd prefer to make the wheels out of cast because it is easier to > machine. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of > > jlb94 at juno.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > > > > Elden, > > At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell > > Weights for flywheels. > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > > \/)"(\/ > > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Mon May 12 09:12:37 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:12:37 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels References: <20080512.105425.256.4.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: Up here the Salvation Army has so many weights that they don't take them anymore. Just food for thought. RickinMt. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 10:23:52 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:23:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <48287D28.1060804@scrtc.com> Hey Dave and Patrick, I've made a big mistake. For some reason I had Portland on my mind when Dave posted about the SEL space so my comments have been about Portland not Coolspring. I had just read an email about the upcoming Portland Swap Meet and I guess when Dave posted about the SEL being in the same location, Portland is all I thought of. If I had read the Subject line I would have known what he was talking about. I really think the 1 cylinder Maytag would be more appropriate for Coolspring though now that I think about it. Tommy Turner Magnolia , KY >Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder >or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on >me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix >the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in >which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > > >>Hi Tommy, >> Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? >>;) >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From kimmell at verizon.net Mon May 12 14:10:48 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:10:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <0K0R00HBNXGXDT6B@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Bring a single... they smoke more :-) -Tony At 07:12 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote: >Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder >or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on >me now). From George_Best at adp.com Mon May 12 14:18:59 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:18:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] FW: Nuenen 2008 Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906E863C2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Here?s a message I just got from Holland. George From: french.bros at virgin.net [mailto:french.bros at virgin.net] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:45 PM To: Best, George Subject: Nuenen 2008 Hi George My travelling computer won't let me post to the list - can you forward this for me? Thanks! Dolly George, you were absolutely right - the weather for the show was FABULOUS. A tiny cloud crossed the sun at midday today and everyone on the showground looked up to see why it had gone dark!!! The engines on display were amazing. The actual area is quite small, but it's CRAMMED with incredibly rare, mostly European engines. Exhibitors were there from UK, Holland, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Germany and Hungary. We also met up with Ria Hammink, John's widow, who asked to be remembered to you all. It was lovely to see her and to know that John's hobby is still important to her. Go to go - the restaurant is calling, and Arnie gets ugly if he's late at the trough. Dolly, Jim & Arnie ******* This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Mon May 12 15:42:50 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:42:50 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: NEW TOY (Blackstone) Message-ID: <005301c8b481$8388ca60$a6336c3a@fred> Hi Russell, Our collection ideas has changed to Blackstone's,wasn`t meant to happen, they turn up and we can`t stop buying, still want more, now looking for a stationary 10-12 HP or larger, do you know anyone that has a 6 1/2hp.like ours, we need photos of choke system to copy. Also we like to find a larger Flywheel, keep your eyes out for us please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] NEW TOY (Blackstone) > Another nice looking engine Brian, you must have a few blackies now. > Russell >> >>David Watts (03) 87616332 >>damewatt at bigpond.com >> >>Brian Watts (03) 97266147 >>briwatt at optusnet.com.au >>http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1429 - Release Date: > 12/05/2008 6:14 PM > > From edurand at mchsi.com Mon May 12 17:34:18 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:34:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <20080512.105425.256.4.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: Joe: I'll keep that in mind. I may also check out a pawn shop and the flea markets. I'm sorta leaning toward using what I have and that is an end from a piece of 5" diameter shafting. I can get enough out of that sucker to make the head and two flywheels and maybe have some left over. The other stuff (especially the model flywheel castings) are a bit pricey for this project. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jlb94 at juno.com > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 09:54 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Hi Eldon, > We get a local classified paper around here that > always has someone > selling weights for $25 or so. > Or - Maybe stop at a few Yard Sales. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". > > On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:42:09 -0500 "Elden DuRand" > > writes: > > Joe: > > > > Good thinking! Now, all I gotta do is find > some barbell weights! > > With the price of rough cast small flywheels, > I've been looking for > > alternatives and yours is promising. Of the > possibilities, I've > > thought of scouting a junkyard for an auto > flywheel I can cut up and > > machine. > > > > I'd prefer to make the wheels out of cast > because it is easier to > > machine. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > > Behalf Of > > > jlb94 at juno.com > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > > > > > > > Elden, > > > At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell > > > Weights for flywheels. > > > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > > > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > > > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > > \/)"(\/ > > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon May 12 17:36:07 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:36:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good thinking, Rick! There's a Goodwill up the road a piece in Port St. Joe. I'll have to have a looksee. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Richard > Strobel > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:13 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Up here the Salvation Army has so many weights > that they don't take them > anymore. > > Just food for thought. > > RickinMt. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon May 12 16:42:44 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:42:44 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels References: Message-ID: <00aa01c8b489$e5fb4cb0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Ha! I have two 20 Kg lifting weights in the shed that were donated. Too big for my needs. Anyome want to collect them? They are close to being moved to the scrapyard. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > Good thinking, Rick! > > There's a Goodwill up the road a piece in Port St. Joe. I'll have to have > a looksee. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Richard >> Strobel >> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:13 AM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels >> >> >> Up here the Salvation Army has so many weights >> that they don't take them >> anymore. >> >> Just food for thought. >> >> RickinMt. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Mon May 12 19:27:16 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:27:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space Message-ID: <410-22008521322716156@earthlink.net> Do please make a video, with that half dollar bragging Dave, you should be able to put one through the spark plug hole. Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas > [Original Message] > From: Judge Tommy Turner > To: The SEL email discussion list > Date: 5/12/2008 7:46:34 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space > > Now Dave, you wouldn't put a nice little smokey Maytag in your sights > would you? Destroying a Maytag would almost be a sin (I did say ALMOST). > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > >Hi Guys, > > I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is > >that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a > >half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a > >mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a > >science by mid June! > > Dave > >PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! > > > > > >-------- > >David Rotigel > >rotigel at alltel.net > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1429 - Release Date: 5/12/2008 6:14 PM From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 13 14:44:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:44:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/6 Listerdiesel : Just got back home after the ferry crossing and drive from Harwich to home. Ferry was scheduled in at 8pm but we were off the ship and through customs by 8.05, not bad! The whole weekend has been fantastic. The weather was gorgeous, the engines were even better than gorgeous and the people we met were truly great to be with. There are nearly 500 pictures awaiting editing and a lot of video clips to sort through. The Onan genny sulked all weekend and only ran spasmodically, but our youngest son picked up a French Bernard F112 engine to bring home. The Onan looks to have problems in the magneto, and we did pick another new one at the show that was similar enough to try swapping parts, but detail design differences made that a non-starter, just like the engine! Folks we met up with included Arnie, Jim & Dolly, Craig Morrison, Ria Hammink and more. Lots of tales to tell sometime, the trailer is outside waiting to be unloaded but that will have to wait until morning. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue May 13 17:50:48 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <608804.16196.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After seeing the gas price today I will suggest you take the twin. I have run a single and a twin for a 10 hour day. That is one tank of fuel for the twin and five tanks of fuel for the single. Alan --- Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder > or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on > me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix > the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in > which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue May 13 19:15:42 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:15:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <608804.16196.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <608804.16196.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <482A4B4E.1010809@scrtc.com> The twin it will be! (with triple the oil in the gas!). Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Alan Bowen wrote: >After seeing the gas price today I will suggest you take the twin. >I have run a single and a twin for a 10 hour day. >That is one tank of fuel for the twin and five tanks of fuel for the single. >Alan > >--- Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > > >>Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder >>or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on >>me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix >>the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in >>which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 01:18:29 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:18:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/13 Listerdiesel : Walter van Gulik emailed: "Nuenen show date is May 31st and June 1st 2009" Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 01:22:02 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:22:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures Message-ID: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm or http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm More tonight. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 07:34:54 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:34:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O><6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com><6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> I'm already planning on being there! Don't know yet if I'll go over for the show and then have my wife and some friends join me for some tourist type travels, or whether to try to plan another engine tour like Harry and I did last year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:18 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 2008/5/13 Listerdiesel : Walter van Gulik emailed: "Nuenen show date is May 31st and June 1st 2009" Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 08:03:20 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:03:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Thanks Peter!! Great pictures. I'm looking forward to seeing the other 475 pictures ;-) Really pained me not being able to be there this year. Hopefully I'll see you there next year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:22 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm or http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm More tonight. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 08:17:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:17:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Best, George : > Thanks Peter!! > > Great pictures. I'm looking forward to seeing the other 475 pictures > ;-) > > Really pained me not being able to be there this year. > > Hopefully I'll see you there next year. > > George > There were a few USA people there, plus one from Canada (Brian) You'd enjoy it, as it was relatively small, high quality and VERY friendly. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 08:19:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:19:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805140819p45532147k6724d73ea3b6f508@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Best, George : > I'm already planning on being there! > > Don't know yet if I'll go over for the show and then have my wife and > some friends join me for some tourist type travels, or whether to try to > plan another engine tour like Harry and I did last year. > > George Keep an eye on the exchange rate, a low $ is a pain for you guys but good for us coming over to the USA. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 08:36:05 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:36:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F053C7@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, I already know about the quality of engines and people at the show. I was there the last two years and only missed this year due to another family commitment that conflicted with the show. It is one of the most relaxed and friendly shows that I've attended. During 3 previous trips that Harry and I have made together, we've visited a fair number of the exhibitors at their homes. If you were impressed with the quality of the engines at the show, you would be even more impressed seeing the engines that were left at home! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel There were a few USA people there, plus one from Canada (Brian) You'd enjoy it, as it was relatively small, high quality and VERY friendly. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 08:57:24 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:57:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140819p45532147k6724d73ea3b6f508@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O><6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com><6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com><6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6f6025160805140819p45532147k6724d73ea3b6f508@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F054AD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Glad I kept my extra Euros from last trip! However, the exchange rate or the cost of fuel is just something you have to pay if you want to do something. Would be great if we could go back to 2002 or earlier rates, but that's not going to happen. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Keep an eye on the exchange rate, a low $ is a pain for you guys but good for us coming over to the USA. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 14:21:04 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:21:04 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F053C7@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F053C7@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805141421q2786164ay23a4283eb6d284cf@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Best, George : > Peter, > > I already know about the quality of engines and people at the show. I > was there the last two years and only missed this year due to another > family commitment that conflicted with the show. > > It is one of the most relaxed and friendly shows that I've attended. > During 3 previous trips that Harry and I have made together, we've > visited a fair number of the exhibitors at their homes. If you were > impressed with the quality of the engines at the show, you would be even > more impressed seeing the engines that were left at home! > > George Forgot the HOWT trips that you did, seems like ages ago now! There's 90+ pictures up on the websites now, just loading the last of them before we go off to bed. There are 4 menu pages, links between each page at the bottom as usual. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed May 14 19:24:50 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fw: transportation needed Message-ID: <009c01c8b632$da785b80$726f4b47@mikecomp> Hello all: I recently acquired an aircooled engine located in Cinnaminson NJ, 08077 and would love some assistance getting it to either the Coolspring show, Portland show, or Shelby, NC. Would be more than happy to aid with "gas money" to help get it there. It is currently located in a garage right off the interstate. If you could help me I sure would appreciate it. Mike Royster (704) 418-1177 mr at carolina.rr.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed May 14 19:25:24 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:25:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fw: transportation needed Message-ID: <00a501c8b632$eeb9e780$726f4b47@mikecomp> Hello all: I recently acquired an aircooled engine located in Cinnaminson NJ, 08077 and would love some assistance getting it to either the Coolspring show, Portland show, or Shelby, NC. Would be more than happy to aid with "gas money" to help get it there. It is currently located in a garage right off the interstate. If you could help me I sure would appreciate it. Mike Royster (704) 418-1177 mr at carolina.rr.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed May 14 19:53:57 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:53:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00fd01c8b636$ec061550$726f4b47@mikecomp> OUTSTANDING!!! I want the Perin! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: ; "Stationary-Engine" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > > More tonight. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Thu May 15 09:19:46 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:19:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry In-Reply-To: <00fd01c8b636$ec061550$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. Examples include: The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. The cast used for the flywheels. The cast used for auto engine blocks The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. Were the heads cast using different chemistries? What is "automotive gray cast iron" Thanks. Bill Runnells, IA From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 15 10:49:46 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:49:46 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry In-Reply-To: <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> References: <00fd01c8b636$ec061550$726f4b47@mikecomp> <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Message-ID: <6f6025160805151049w9ef7442u27218a202b4cbea@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/15 Bill Dickerson : > > Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. > Examples include: > The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. > The cast used for the flywheels. > The cast used for auto engine blocks > The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. > Were the heads cast using different chemistries? > What is "automotive gray cast iron" > > Thanks. > > > Bill Bill: I have a copy of the"Gray Iron Castings Handbook" on the desk, and as far as specifications go, it's a huge subject. The main standards are: SAE, ASTM, ASA, US Navy, US Military. I can pull out some detail for you, but I think that you may be better off getting something similar in your hands to have a read of. My copy is dated 1958, and published by the Gray Iron Founders Society Inc., Cleveland. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 15 13:04:07 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:04:07 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm We have 6 menu pages up and running now. Probably get another page started before I call it a night. Bought a bottle of "Pisang Ambon" liqueur on the ferry back, it is rather nice with fresh orange juice, and fairly strong at 20% vol :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 15 13:14:00 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:14:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F6137C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, The unknown engine in the vendor area on page 5 with the 4 spoke flywheels is a French made Japy engine. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:04 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures 2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm We have 6 menu pages up and running now. Probably get another page started before I call it a night. Bought a bottle of "Pisang Ambon" liqueur on the ferry back, it is rather nice with fresh orange juice, and fairly strong at 20% vol :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 15 13:23:56 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:23:56 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F6137C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F6137C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805151323q587ff20fs9a473bc5297a2e9a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/15 Best, George : > Peter, > > The unknown engine in the vendor area on page 5 with the 4 spoke > flywheels is a French made Japy engine. > > George > Many thanks, George, I'll correct that in the morning. I've just shut down the website PC for the night, nearly got another page ready :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu May 15 13:54:40 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:54:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry References: <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Message-ID: <008301c8b6cd$e590eb90$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> OK I will stick my neck out a way. Top quality CI will have a low carbon content of 1% or so, low grade CI will be up around 4%. A lot of the other types such as chilled, white, gray and meonite get their qualities from the pour temperature, carbon content, and post pour heat treatment. This is a very simplistic explanation and as Peter says, get a book on the subject. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. Examples include: The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. The cast used for the flywheels. The cast used for auto engine blocks The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. Were the heads cast using different chemistries? What is "automotive gray cast iron" Thanks. Bill Runnells, IA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM From bill at antique-engines.com Thu May 15 15:26:26 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:26:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry In-Reply-To: <008301c8b6cd$e590eb90$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <000001c8b6da$b77da650$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Wondering what this means, and if the nickel content is high...... Perhaps compared to other blocks? Some say so. Is it high compared to other cast iron? http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/ijwebb/forum/nickel.jpg There's debates on if those numbers are typical. I suspect our antiques are pretty ordinary in content......... And not all that hard. Also wondering about heads/valves, etc. Although I suspect those are hardened after the casting process as needed. Bill -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry OK I will stick my neck out a way. Top quality CI will have a low carbon content of 1% or so, low grade CI will be up around 4%. A lot of the other types such as chilled, white, gray and meonite get their qualities from the pour temperature, carbon content, and post pour heat treatment. This is a very simplistic explanation and as Peter says, get a book on the subject. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. Examples include: The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. The cast used for the flywheels. The cast used for auto engine blocks The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. Were the heads cast using different chemistries? What is "automotive gray cast iron" Thanks. Bill Runnells, IA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Thu May 15 20:48:11 2008 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:48:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? Message-ID: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> http://www.wkfinetools.com/z_tDownL/howTo-Books.asp Some interesting books available for download. Carpentry and Joinery 1915 - The Amateur Carpenter by Hyatt Verrill 1910 - Handwork in Wood by William Noyes 1910 - Pattern-Making by G. H. Willard 1907 - Home Mechanics for Amateurs by George M. Hopkins 1906 - Woodworking for Beginners by Charles G. Wheeler 1905 - A Manual of Carpentry and Joinery by J. W. Riley 1900 - Mind and Hand by Charles H. Ham 1896 - Forty Lessons in Carpentry... By Charles F. Mitchell 1890 - Bench Work in Wood by W. F. M. Goss 1889 - Exercises in Wood-Working by Ivin Sickels 1885 - Elementary Principles of Carpentry by Thomas Tredgold 1866 - Our Workshop 1831 - The Mechanic's Companion by Peter Nicholson 1826 - Practical Carpentry, Joinery, and Cabinet-Making Finish and Recipes 2006 - French Polishing and Enamelling by Arthur Bitmead 1913 - Handbook on Japanning by William N. Brown 1883 - Workshop Receipts by Ernest Spon Turning Wood, Lathes and Tools 1919 - Course in Wood Turning by Archie S. Milton and Otto K. Wohlers 1882 - Cutting Tools Worked by Hand and Machine by R. Smith 1868 - The Lathe & Its Uses by James Lukin 1843 - Turning and Mechanical Manipulation by C. Holtzapffel-V.1 1843 - Turning and Mechanical Manipulation by C. Holtzapffel-V.3 1833 - Ibbetson's Geometric Chuck, manufactured by Holtzapffel & Co. Blacksmithing and Metal Working 1920 - Elementary Forge Practice by Robert H. Harcourt 1919 - Forge Practice by John Lord Bacon 1914 - Steel Working and Tool Dressing by W. S. Casterlin 1913 - Drill Jigs - Machinery's Reference Series 1913 - Popular Mechanics Shop Notes 1911 - Hand Forging by Thomas F. Googerty 1903 - The Home Mechanic by John Wright 1903 - Modern Machine Shop Tools by William H. Von Dervoort 1901 - Spons' Mechanics' Own Book 1901 - Farm Blacksmithing - by James M. Drew 1888 - Practical Blacksmithing by M. T. Richardson 1873 - Workshop Appliances by C. P. B. Shelley Constuction 1874 - The Construction of Mill Dams by James Leffel & Co. -- Steve Williams From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 16 07:21:43 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:21:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? In-Reply-To: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> References: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F61ADC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Thanks for the link Steve. I've always enjoyed reading the Popular Mechanics Shop Notes. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve W. Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:48 PM To: ATIS LIST; Engine list Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? http://www.wkfinetools.com/z_tDownL/howTo-Books.asp Some interesting books available for download. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From FRM8198 at aol.com Fri May 16 07:47:58 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:47:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? Message-ID: Thanks for sharing this site with us. Francis Maciel In a message dated 5/15/2008 8:57:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, falcon at telenet.net writes: Some interesting books available for download. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 16 12:16:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:16:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Help needed with Caterpillar service manual Message-ID: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> We are getting the bum's rush in the UK, with trying to obtain a manual for the 1Y73 caterpillar research diesel engines. The part number is: SENR2074, Caterpillar insist that it is a good number and is currently available from their dealers. UK dealers say that no such number exists. Is there anyone in the USA that can contact a local dealer for us, and find out if this can be purchased locally and mailed, either to our friends in Gilbert, AZ or to us directly? We can pay with PayPal or send cash $$'s by registered post. We have a contact in Caterpillar Media center that we can give a phone # for if needed. We have been nearly a year now trying to get this manual and it is getting a bit frustrating...... Many thanks, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Frank at lbpinc.com Fri May 16 13:04:30 2008 From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:04:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag Message-ID: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover of Gas Engine Magazine. I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and not a bad hot water heater. I highly recommend the article and a visit. Frank From rotigel at alltel.net Fri May 16 13:39:48 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:39:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help needed with Caterpillar service manual In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57CAEBD7-AA43-4771-9462-886E3D5C829B@alltel.net> Hi Peter, I just talked to a parts man from Ohio Cat. He can get it for us-- it's called a "Single Cylinder Test Engine" manual. It was printed in 1981. Cost is $26.88 plus tax and shipping. It would be printed ONLY after I order and thus would take 5-7 weeks. Their parts dept. is open until midnight tonight. Do you want me to order it for you? Once I order it there would be no chance of canceling the order! Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 16, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > We are getting the bum's rush in the UK, with trying to obtain a > manual for the 1Y73 caterpillar research diesel engines. > > The part number is: SENR2074, Caterpillar insist that it is a good > number and is currently available from their dealers. > > UK dealers say that no such number exists. > > Is there anyone in the USA that can contact a local dealer for us, and > find out if this can be purchased locally and mailed, either to our > friends in Gilbert, AZ or to us directly? We can pay with PayPal or > send cash $$'s by registered post. We have a contact in Caterpillar > Media center that we can give a phone # for if needed. > > We have been nearly a year now trying to get this manual and it is > getting a bit frustrating...... > > Many thanks, > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 16 13:38:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:38:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag In-Reply-To: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> References: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: <6f6025160805161338q49b8bb92wa38c1aa17bfd51ef@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/16 Frank DeWitt : > I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover > of Gas Engine Magazine. > > I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is > a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a > antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they > had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the > observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open > knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and > not a bad hot water heater. > > I highly recommend the article and a visit. > > Frank We also did the tour with Larry and Ken and our friends Tim & Sally. Snow on the ground in April, but what a fantastic place and wouldn't have missed that for anything! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 16 13:40:08 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:08 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Help needed with Caterpillar service manual In-Reply-To: <57CAEBD7-AA43-4771-9462-886E3D5C829B@alltel.net> References: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> <57CAEBD7-AA43-4771-9462-886E3D5C829B@alltel.net> Message-ID: <6f6025160805161340l20fd0395g856b3f0d2f7e94f2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/16 David Rotigel : > Hi Peter, > I just talked to a parts man from Ohio Cat. He can get it for us-- > it's called a "Single Cylinder Test Engine" manual. It was printed in > 1981. Cost is $26.88 plus tax and shipping. It would be printed ONLY > after I order and thus would take 5-7 weeks. Their parts dept. is > open until midnight tonight. Do you want me to order it for you? Once > I order it there would be no chance of canceling the order! > Dave Have emailed you off-list, Dave, many thanks for your assistance. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at alltel.net Fri May 16 15:22:53 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:22:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805161338q49b8bb92wa38c1aa17bfd51ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> <6f6025160805161338q49b8bb92wa38c1aa17bfd51ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <271163C2-54EA-46EF-91F0-CC96A0F6DF85@alltel.net> Arnie and I went through the engine house and the observatory years ago while attending the Tulare Show. It was great to "revisit" the engine via Larry's article! Dave On May 16, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/16 Frank DeWitt : >> I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover >> of Gas Engine Magazine. >> >> I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is >> a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a >> antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they >> had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the >> observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open >> knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and >> not a bad hot water heater. >> >> I highly recommend the article and a visit. >> >> Frank > > We also did the tour with Larry and Ken and our friends Tim & Sally. > > Snow on the ground in April, but what a fantastic place and wouldn't > have missed that for anything! > > Peter From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat May 17 03:54:58 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:54:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag References: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: <005001c8b80c$7309f590$0200a8c0@altech> Kaye and I also have had the pleasure of Larry's grand tour, well I did anyhow, Kaye was very motion sick from all the bends up the mountain. Thought the poor gal was going to die ;-))) Peter, Oz >I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover > of Gas Engine Magazine. > > I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is > a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a > antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they > had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the > observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open > knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and > not a bad hot water heater. > > I highly recommend the article and a visit. > > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 17 04:44:34 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:44:34 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips Message-ID: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs (24 per page) and have taken a break to start on the video clips. We took 70 or so clips at the show, concentrated on the runners, including the models. Traditionally we have always put the clips up individually with a menu page to select which one you want. Each thumbnail has the clip number, file size and running time. That will continue, but we have also done something a little different with the Nuenen clips, and have grouped clips of the same engine into one larger file with an extended run time. The Pool engine was the first to get the treatment, you can't access the individual clips yet as the whole set hasn't been produced, but the larger (6mb) clip which runs for 57 seconds is available now at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv The Loog-Landaal engine is on, 1min 27secs, 9mb: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv It is in wide-screen format and Windows Media player should pick it up OK. You may need to pull the margins out on each side. When we do the main menu, the grouped videos will have a section of their own somewhere. If you cannot get into one of the servers, try one of the others as they always get busy and slow when everyone jumps on to look at big files! We have opened up another site at stationary-engine.net to ease the access problems for a few days. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edurand at mchsi.com Sat May 17 07:42:03 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:42:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? In-Reply-To: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> Message-ID: Steve: Thanks! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Steve W. > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:48 PM > To: ATIS LIST; Engine list > Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? > > > http://www.wkfinetools.com/z_tDownL/howTo-Books.asp > > Some interesting books available for download.Thanks! From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sat May 17 10:12:54 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 11:12:54 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Eveready engine Message-ID: G'day all; Anyone have one of these? 6hp Trying to get some more info on this engine and help a guy out. Not much info in the BPB. TIA RickinMt. PS: Pictures will be posted soon on my friends new acquistion. FM Z 6hp with the biggest FM "Typhoon" recip water pump...10x6 made. This should make a great working display. From WinkAndGinger at aol.com Sat May 17 15:16:48 2008 From: WinkAndGinger at aol.com (WinkAndGinger at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:16:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Eveready engine Message-ID: In a message dated 5/17/2008 10:27:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: > > G'day all; > Anyone have one of these? 6hp Trying to get some more info on this engine > and help a guy out. Not much info in the BPB. > > TIA > I have a 4 hp. Mine looks like a Witte, the parts manual matches up. We think Witte licensed Ever Ready Machine of Montreal Canada to make these engines and they put the Ever Ready tag on them. I have pics. if you need them. Hope this helps. Wink & Ginger Thornton, Yucca Valley Ca., USA KG6TVW, KG6TVV The older the violin....the sweeter the music! http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4114826&a=30951078&pw= ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Sun May 18 01:18:14 2008 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 08:18:14 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter,thanks for the vids.I found them fasinating! Little bit worried about the man with the Pool engine,he seems a bit unsteady on his feet and his tee shirt is all wet.Good job there was some one to look after him there. John> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:44:34 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips> > We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs (24 per page) and have> taken a break to start on the video clips.> > We took 70 or so clips at the show, concentrated on the runners,> including the models.> > Traditionally we have always put the clips up individually with a menu> page to select which one you want. Each thumbnail has the clip number,> file size and running time.> > That will continue, but we have also done something a little different> with the Nuenen clips, and have grouped clips of the same engine into> one larger file with an extended run time.> > The Pool engine was the first to get the treatment, you can't access> the individual clips yet as the whole set hasn't been produced, but> the larger (6mb) clip which runs for 57 seconds is available now at:> > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv> > The Loog-Landaal engine is on, 1min 27secs, 9mb:> > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv> > It is in wide-screen format and Windows Media player should pick it up> OK. You may need to pull the margins out on each side.> > When we do the main menu, the grouped videos will have a section of> their own somewhere.> > If you cannot get into one of the servers, try one of the others as> they always get busy and slow when everyone jumps on to look at big> files! We have opened up another site at stationary-engine.net to ease> the access problems for a few days.> > Peter> > -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 18 03:13:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:13:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: References: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805180313v545683b1l15ffe7ba26c60c86@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/18 john palmer : > > Peter,thanks for the vids.I found them fasinating! Little bit worried about the man with the Pool engine,he seems a bit unsteady on his feet and his tee shirt is all wet.Good job there was some one to look after him there. John> They had a lot of trouble with the crank and big-end bearing running hot, and they also changed the crankshaft round in the engine after a keyway problem with the flywheel. It was pretty hot as well! All of the videos are sorted out now, I'll post the details later on today. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 18 04:25:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:25:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805180425x4ab6fd91gf7c4fe254bdc381e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/17 Listerdiesel : > We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs (24 per page) and have > taken a break to start on the video clips. All the videos and menu pages are up and running: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/VideoQKMenu.htm or http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/VideoQKMenu.htm or http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008/VideoQKMenu.htm The larger group videos are at the bottom of Video Menu Page 2. Let me know if you have any problems with access. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun May 18 06:25:22 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 07:25:22 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Eveready engine References: Message-ID: Here's 3 pictures we took of the Ever Ready 6hp made in Waterloo, Iowa. Way different than Wink and Gingers in California. Look familiar to anyone? Waterloo clone maybe? He does need the ignitor and I should have thrown the head on for the picture. Thanks much...I'm sure he'll appreciate any info. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563468111rxsYBT RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Eveready engine > In a message dated 5/17/2008 10:27:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: > > > > > > G'day all; > > Anyone have one of these? 6hp Trying to get some more info on this > > engine > > and help a guy out. Not much info in the BPB. > > > > TIA > > > > I have a 4 hp. Mine looks like a Witte, the parts manual matches up. > We think Witte licensed Ever Ready Machine of Montreal Canada to make > these > engines and they put the Ever Ready tag on them. I have pics. if you need > them. > > Hope this helps. > > Wink & Ginger Thornton, > Yucca Valley Ca., USA > KG6TVW, KG6TVV > The older the violin....the sweeter the music! > http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4114826&a=30951078&pw= > > > > ************** > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at > AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 18 17:29:15 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:29:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805180425x4ab6fd91gf7c4fe254bdc381e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: Thanks for the videos! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 06:25 AM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine > Subject: Re: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips > > > 2008/5/17 Listerdiesel : > > We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs > (24 per page) and have > > taken a break to start on the video clips. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 18 18:57:48 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:57:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos Message-ID: <20080519015739.OZBH14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> I went out to Cambelltown Steam Museum for a look yesterday. As usual I took lots of photos (which will appear on the net at some time soon). I also took a couple of short videos which I have uploaded onto Youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun May 18 19:30:51 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:30:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos Message-ID: <410-22008511923051656@earthlink.net> Hey Patrick, both of those video's are the same. Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas > [Original Message] > From: Patrick M Livingstone > To: Stationary Engine ATIS List ; Stationary Engine Mailing List > Date: 5/18/2008 8:57:41 PM > Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos > > I went out to Cambelltown Steam Museum for a look yesterday. As usual I took > lots of photos (which will appear on the net at some time soon). I also took > a couple of short videos which I have uploaded onto Youtube at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1453 - Release Date: 5/18/2008 9:31 AM From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun May 18 19:49:38 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:49:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos References: <20080519015739.OZBH14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000a01c8b95a$fdce73a0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Er, they are both the same!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos >I went out to Cambelltown Steam Museum for a look yesterday. As usual I >took > lots of photos (which will appear on the net at some time soon). I also > took > a couple of short videos which I have uploaded onto Youtube at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 18 20:15:31 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:15:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <000a01c8b95a$fdce73a0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <20080519031521.ISSG9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Oops! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM5FK15EVPo Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Er, they are both the same!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From pjp at steamengine.com.au Mon May 19 04:21:38 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:21:38 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Steam and IC engines for Royal Melbourne Show - Expressions of interest Message-ID: <3092.218.214.134.238.1211196098.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> I've been approached by the Royal Melbourne Show committee on who they could get to have steam and possibly IC engines to go into a pioneer village this year at the show (yes I know it is late notice). Rather than just give them people to talk to I've offered to help facilitate the display. If you're interested in exhibiting (particularly if you can furnish steam) could you please let me know. If the committee choose to have me help then I'll get in touch and start organising who can come on what days and what they can bring and what they're needs might be. In case they don't want me to help then indicate if I can pass on your contact details to them directly. At this stage, this is just an expression of interest. Who can say if anything will happen. Regards Paul From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon May 19 09:45:27 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:45:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] An Engine Man Visits America (Kansas & Missouri) Message-ID: <1211215527.4831aea77f137@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Folks, I met a really nice engine man at Neunen 2008 who's also a Coleman Lamp collector. It turns out that he's coming across the pond for a Coleman Lamp convention, flying into Kansas City on June 9th. He'll be at the convention June 11-15 and then flys back to the Netherlands on June 19th. His name is Herman Mulder and his email addy is: mulder.herman at hetnet.nl His wife's name is Marga. He asked me if there were any engine shows or collectors who would welcome a Dutch collector to visit them and let them show off their collection. He's looking for things mainly in the Kansas & Missouri area. I'm still in England so I don't have access to the show directory. If any of the list members know of any shows or fellow collectors that would suit his availability, please let him know via email. Or post a reply and I'll forward it to him. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon May 19 12:10:32 2008 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:10:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20080519120336.03d8d500@pop.att.yahoo.com> Now that some of you are reminded of the big Fairbanks Morse engine at Mt. Wilson I thought you might be interested in seeing a few pictures of our most recent project there. My brother Ken and I were asked to see if it was feasible to get a large old Deming triplex pump working again. See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/deming/index.htm for some pictures and explanation of the project. Thanks for all the kind words about the GEM article. Regards, Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From Germoamer at aol.com Mon May 19 12:38:39 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:38:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project Message-ID: Larry, Really a good feeling when you bring something back to live with minimal trouble! Also enjoyed the GEM article. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon May 19 13:42:51 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] An Engine Man Visits America (Kansas & Missouri) In-Reply-To: <1211215527.4831aea77f137@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <155245.85438.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rats!!! He is leaving too soon. Lathrop starts on June 19th and that just North of Kansas City. Other shows are going on whilr he will be at the Coleman Lamp convention. Where is that convention located? Alan --- fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I met a really nice engine man at Neunen 2008 who's also a Coleman Lamp > collector. It turns out that he's coming across the pond for a Coleman Lamp > convention, flying into Kansas City on June 9th. He'll be at the convention > June 11-15 and then flys back to the Netherlands on June 19th. > > His name is Herman Mulder and his email addy is: mulder.herman at hetnet.nl > His wife's name is Marga. > > He asked me if there were any engine shows or collectors who would welcome a > Dutch collector to visit them and let them show off their collection. He's > looking for things mainly in the Kansas & Missouri area. > > I'm still in England so I don't have access to the show directory. > > If any of the list members know of any shows or fellow collectors that would > suit his availability, please let him know via email. Or post a reply and I'll > forward it to him. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon May 19 14:52:41 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:52:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] wiscona pep motor 1 1/2 hp Message-ID: <000801c8b9fa$a9676fb0$12d66e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi, I returned home from Nuenen last night with my new toy,can anyone help with my querries? 1, what is the webster mag and bracket that I need ? 2, what is the paint colour code ? 3, does anyone know if anybody reproduces the decals for them, if so who ? Thanks, Craig in Scotland From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon May 19 21:33:30 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:33:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 Message-ID: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> This past weekend was the fifth annual California Gold engine show. This year it was held at Ken McCrary's place at Davenport Ca. I have posted pictures, a couple of captions are not there yet and there may be a few names mixed up or misspelled. But check out the beautiful setting. Enjoy. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CaliforniaGold2008 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue May 20 00:13:22 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:13:22 +1000 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 References: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <00de01c8ba49$025e42d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Enjoyed the pics. Was that Mery a full size? I sure would like more info on it. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 > This past weekend was the fifth annual California Gold engine show. This > year it was held at Ken McCrary's place at Davenport Ca. I have posted > pictures, a couple of captions are not there yet and there may be a few > names mixed up or misspelled. But check out the beautiful setting. > Enjoy. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CaliforniaGold2008 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 00:42:57 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:42:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805200042x7f370e72r5d3f2ec75ea5e41a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm Up to 14 menu pages now, and a new server added: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm (There is NO menuing system on the new server yet) The videos are linked at the bottom of the picture menu pages, but not the other way round (yet) Let me know of any problem with access please. There are probably another 2 menu pages to go and then that's it, all done. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kosh at ncweb.com Tue May 20 02:19:01 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 05:19:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805200042x7f370e72r5d3f2ec75ea5e41a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080520051835.03c187b8@ncweb.com> It's going to take a while to go thru it all, but worth it! Thanks Dave At 03:42 AM 5/20/2008, you wrote: >2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > > or > > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > >Up to 14 menu pages now, and a new server added: > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > >(There is NO menuing system on the new server yet) > >The videos are linked at the bottom of the picture menu pages, but not >the other way round (yet) > >Let me know of any problem with access please. There are probably >another 2 menu pages to go and then that's it, all done. > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Tue May 20 06:40:12 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:40:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project References: <6.0.1.1.2.20080519120336.03d8d500@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: NICE lookin' engine Larry. Friend Corky and I now have the big 6x10 FBM "Typoon" in the electrolysis soup. If you happen to know of a spring supplier other than Century, sure would appreciate a heads-up as we have one broken. btw, your chart sure comes in handy and many thanks again for sending it!!! Regards, RickinMt. PS: Still lookin' fer the attachments that go on the H-beam car lift...gotta be out there somewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Evans" To: Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project > Now that some of you are reminded of the big Fairbanks Morse engine at Mt. > Wilson I thought you might be interested in seeing a few pictures of our > most recent project there. My brother Ken and I were asked to see if it > was feasible to get a large old Deming triplex pump working again. See: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/deming/index.htm > for some pictures and explanation of the project. > > Thanks for all the kind words about the GEM article. > > Regards, > > Larry Evans > MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue May 20 07:18:38 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:18:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 In-Reply-To: <00de01c8ba49$025e42d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> <00de01c8ba49$025e42d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: On May 20, 2008, at 12:13 AM, R & M Ingold wrote: > Enjoyed the pics. Was that Mery a full size? I sure would like more > info on it. Chuck was interested in hearing of your modeling exploits and seeing the video of your Mery running. The castings you used were dimensioned off his engine. I'll send you his email address this afternoon. From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Tue May 20 07:26:12 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:26:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project References: <6.0.1.1.2.20080519120336.03d8d500@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: crap..way too early for this sheep herder....nice looking pump. Rick From alharris44 at gmail.com Sat May 17 14:55:42 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 07:55:42 +1000 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> G'day List, I have just acquired a "knapsack blower" manufactured by Marino in Brisbane, Australia. I cannot locate the maker, so I am begging for assistance here. :-) The engine is a JLO Rockwell L35L, made in Hamburg, two-stroke, 35ccm capacity, making 1.7hp at 6000rpm. Info from manufacturers plate. The carby, muffler and start-pulley are not original (but they work). ;-) Any booklets/info on the engine especially welcome. > http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower01.jpg > http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower02.jpg TIA Al Harris Clarence Coast Oz From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 10:23:28 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:23:28 +0100 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/17 Al Harris : > G'day List, > > I have just acquired a "knapsack blower" manufactured by > Marino in Brisbane, Australia. I cannot locate the maker, so I > am begging for assistance here. :-) > > The engine is a JLO Rockwell L35L, made in Hamburg, > two-stroke, 35ccm capacity, making 1.7hp at 6000rpm. Info from > manufacturers plate. > > The carby, muffler and start-pulley are not original (but they > work). ;-) Any booklets/info on the engine especially welcome. > >> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower01.jpg > >> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower02.jpg > > TIA > Al Harris Hi Al: It is in fact 'ILO' as the trademark has a stylised "I" which looks like a 'J'. We have a few ILO manuals, as we also have a 372cc ILO-powered genset. I'll have a dig later on and see if we have anything on that one. I think after Rockwell-Tecumseh had finished with them, it all closed down. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From curt at rustyiron.com Tue May 20 12:14:17 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Al, OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? Curt > 2008/5/17 Al Harris : >> G'day List, >> >> I have just acquired a "knapsack blower" manufactured by >> Marino in Brisbane, Australia. I cannot locate the maker, so I >> am begging for assistance here. :-) >> >> The engine is a JLO Rockwell L35L, made in Hamburg, >> two-stroke, 35ccm capacity, making 1.7hp at 6000rpm. Info from >> manufacturers plate. >> >> The carby, muffler and start-pulley are not original (but they >> work). ;-) Any booklets/info on the engine especially welcome. >> >>> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower01.jpg >> >>> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower02.jpg >> >> TIA >> Al Harris > > Hi Al: > > It is in fact 'ILO' as the trademark has a stylised "I" which looks like a > 'J'. > > We have a few ILO manuals, as we also have a 372cc ILO-powered genset. > > I'll have a dig later on and see if we have anything on that one. > > I think after Rockwell-Tecumseh had finished with them, it all closed > down. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 12:38:00 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:38:00 +0100 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 : > Al, > OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? > Curt Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 12:56:41 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. Message-ID: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> We've got a pair of brand new Donaldon air cleaners for the Cat engines. They are conventional type with the oil reservoir at the bottom, retained by a circular clip, inlet is on the top and the outlet to the engine is on the side. On most applications, these would have had a 'mushroom' header on the inlet so that bits and pieces and rain didn't get in. Sometimes the inlet would be taken elsewhere via a flexible hose. I recollect vehicles in the USA having these out on the bonnet (hood) of the truck on one side, particularly construction trucks and utility vehicles. We are looking for a couple of the mushroom headers, and I've tried to find a picture or details on Donaldson's website, but they seem to have gone over to dry filters these days. The filter type is very similar to ebay # 120184524839 but ours are in better condition and boxed. The cap we need is something like ebay # 120215289926, but there are also 'chamfered top' types with finning inside the cap which I think are what we need. The pipe that the cap fits to is 2" diameter. If I find a decent picture, I'll post it here. Thanks, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 13:19:21 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:19:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805201319q8b1e06h682a035acf185c93@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 Listerdiesel : > We've got a pair of brand new Donaldon air cleaners for the Cat > engines. They are conventional type with the oil reservoir at the > bottom, retained by a circular clip, inlet is on the top and the > outlet to the engine is on the side. We had a smaller filter from a Petter AVB Lab engine in the storage downstairs, which has the required cap on it, albeit smaller. Picture at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Misc/AirCleaner1.jpg THAT is what we are looking for, to fit the 2" top pipe on top of the air filter on the right, 2 pces reqd.. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue May 20 14:11:08 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:11:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > We are looking for a couple of the mushroom headers, and I've tried to > find a picture or details on Donaldson's website, but they seem to > have gone over to dry filters these days. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The cap we need is something like ebay # 120215289926, but there are > also 'chamfered top' types with finning inside the cap which I think > are what we need. The pipe that the cap fits to is 2" diameter. Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went away . If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . Chuck Balyeat http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue May 20 14:11:24 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:11:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com><6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com><18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006201c8babe$0fe8d990$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> >> OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? >> Curt > > Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. > > Peter > The round thing in front of the operators belly button . Is it for a 75lb counter weight maybe ? Chuck Balyeat http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From alharris44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 14:37:34 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:37:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <006201c8babe$0fe8d990$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com><6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com><18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> <006201c8babe$0fe8d990$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <4833449E.3030807@gmail.com> Chuck, it's surprisingly light, 20-25lb. Possibly because of the fiberglass and hollow tube construction. Al Chuck Balyeat wrote: > Peter wrote: >> Curt wrote: >>> OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? >>> >> Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. >> > > The round thing in front of the operators belly button . > Is it for a 75lb counter weight maybe ? > > Chuck Balyeat > http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From alharris44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 13:26:21 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:26:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483333ED.7070205@gmail.com> G'day List, Peter, thanks. Curt, you are probably questioning the use of the "watermelon ring" (WMR) attached to the front of the carrier. ;-) In further examining of the carrier, with all the dead vegetation/insect remains removed, the frame on the RHS has two large holes, one halfway down the tubing at the back and one toward the inside-front, near the wrist area. There is also a venturi near the outlet of the blower (pic 1), so I am assuming the WMR is for carrying chemicals or such for spraying. The venturi inside the housing is actually bent upwards, which has me confused as logic tells me, air would blow out of the tube????? BTW the WMR is shown in the collapsed position and it *is* above waist level. :-) Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 : >> Al, >> OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? >> Curt > > Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. > > Peter From alharris44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 14:15:15 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:15:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48333F63.1070907@gmail.com> How about this one: > http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/images/usedparts/air%20cleaners.jpg or the one at the very bottom below the New Donaldson Filter: > http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/newandusedparts.htm Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > We've got a pair of brand new Donaldon air cleaners for the Cat > engines. They are conventional type with the oil reservoir at the > bottom, retained by a circular clip, inlet is on the top and the > outlet to the engine is on the side. > > On most applications, these would have had a 'mushroom' header on the > inlet so that bits and pieces and rain didn't get in. Sometimes the > inlet would be taken elsewhere via a flexible hose. I recollect > vehicles in the USA having these out on the bonnet (hood) of the truck > on one side, particularly construction trucks and utility vehicles. > > We are looking for a couple of the mushroom headers, and I've tried to > find a picture or details on Donaldson's website, but they seem to > have gone over to dry filters these days. > > The filter type is very similar to ebay # 120184524839 but ours are in > better condition and boxed. > > The cap we need is something like ebay # 120215289926, but there are > also 'chamfered top' types with finning inside the cap which I think > are what we need. The pipe that the cap fits to is 2" diameter. > > If I find a decent picture, I'll post it here. > > Thanks, > > Peter From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue May 20 21:13:17 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:13:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 In-Reply-To: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20080521041321.63CC465B447@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Ron , thanks for the great coverage as usual. They just keep on getting better! Rumor has it, it will be at Manuel's and bring a Hicks. Cya, Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:34 PM To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 This past weekend was the fifth annual California Gold engine show. This year it was held at Ken McCrary's place at Davenport Ca. I have posted pictures, a couple of captions are not there yet and there may be a few names mixed up or misspelled. But check out the beautiful setting. Enjoy. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CaliforniaGold2008 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 21 00:26:35 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:26:35 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <48333F63.1070907@gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <48333F63.1070907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805210026u3a6446e6ub74c70c14450adec@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 Al Harris : > How about this one: >> http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/images/usedparts/air%20cleaners.jpg > > or the one at the very bottom below the New Donaldson Filter: >> http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/newandusedparts.htm > > Cheers, > Al > Hi Al: They are both too large and are for the full diameter of the filter, we need just the cap assy. Thanks for looking! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 21 00:27:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:27:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : > > Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went > away . > > If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma > can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 01:16:46 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:16:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833DA6E.5000209@gmail.com> Or a rain cap or even maybe a precleaner from here. > http://www.enginaire.com/Rain%20caps.htm Cheers, Al ps: gotta go, the rugby league is on the box soon. Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : >> Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went >> away . >> >> If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma >> can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . > > Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) > > Peter From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 01:03:33 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:03:33 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833D755.50306@gmail.com> How about this one then? 2/3rds down the page. Air Cleaner Cap - For H, Super H, W4, 300, 330, 340, 350, 404, 424, 444, 504 Gas. air Cleaner Cap 2" I.D. (R1963) (Part No: 51435DBX) > http://www.ytmag.com/store/parts/ihcat.htm Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : >> Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went >> away . >> >> If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma >> can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . > > Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) > > Peter From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 02:35:33 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:35:33 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> Last one tonight. :-) Looks OK. > http://store.craftonequipment.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=283036&id2=1563995&id3=YES&id4=craftonequipment.com Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : >> Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went >> away . >> >> If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma >> can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . > > Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) > > Peter From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 21 12:07:50 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 20:07:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805211207q40dc3081s9de51c68d851d1bb@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/21 Al Harris : > Last one tonight. :-) Looks OK. > >> http://store.craftonequipment.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=283036&id2=1563995&id3=YES&id4=craftonequipment.com > > Cheers, > Al Al: That's about perfect, just need to confirm the pipe diameter and we are off! I have emailed Crafton to see if they can confirm the pipe size on those caps. Many thanks for your time and trouble! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 16:51:22 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:51:22 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805211207q40dc3081s9de51c68d851d1bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> <6f6025160805211207q40dc3081s9de51c68d851d1bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4834B57A.5050504@gmail.com> My pleasure fellow List member. :-) I have seen pipe size adapters on some sites. Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/21 Al Harris : >> Last one tonight. :-) Looks OK. >> >>> http://store.craftonequipment.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=283036&id2=1563995&id3=YES&id4=craftonequipment.com >> Cheers, >> Al > > Al: > > That's about perfect, just need to confirm the pipe diameter and we are off! > > I have emailed Crafton to see if they can confirm the pipe size on those caps. > > Many thanks for your time and trouble! > > Peter From fbi at insulate.co.uk Thu May 22 12:11:32 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:11:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition Message-ID: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Hi Folks Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm Have fun! Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From fbi at insulate.co.uk Thu May 22 12:15:53 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:15:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Message-ID: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Hi Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 22 12:34:11 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:34:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907068DCB@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Very interesting! Might have to stop by there sometime if I'm not in too big of a hurry to get to visit another collection ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:16 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Hi Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kosh at ncweb.com Thu May 22 13:29:33 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:29:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907068DCB@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.a d.adp.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> By coincidence, I had just been looking at it in action on Youtube last night. Awesome architecture and craftsmanship. Dave Merchant At 03:34 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >Very interesting! > >Might have to stop by there sometime if I'm not in too big of a hurry to >get to visit another collection ;-) > >George > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French >Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:16 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] New Webpages > >Hi > >Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web >design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, >and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way >to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest >to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some >errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. >http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm > >Dolly >-- >Jim French >fbi at insulate.co.uk >http://www.insulate.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From oldengineman at hotmail.com Thu May 22 14:30:29 2008 From: oldengineman at hotmail.com (Peter Stauffer) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:30:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> Message-ID: Hi Dave, I should be in Wednesday afternoon. Looking forward to seeing you all then. Pete Stauffer > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: rotigel at alltel.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:51:29 -0400> Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space> > Hi All,> I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in > June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for > years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can > move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL > sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and > signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree > end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, > See you at Coolspring!> Dave> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_family_safety_052008 From edurand at mchsi.com Thu May 22 18:37:50 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:37:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: Dolly: Thanks for the page about that neat little pumping outfit. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jim French > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 02:16 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] New Webpages > > > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention > breaking in new web design software), I've only > just finished the first of our trip pages, and > it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked > out the best way to tackle those yet!). But it > is something which should be of interest to most > of you, as it involves a large engine! There may > well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, > please let me know. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cr > uquius.htm > > Dolly From alharris44 at gmail.com Thu May 22 13:40:12 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:40:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: <4835DA2C.50506@gmail.com> "The big one's in my left hand Dolly." :-\ Al Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > Have fun! > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 22 10:32:34 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:32:34 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 Message-ID: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> Out of the blue, an old engine contact emailed me the other day, asking if I knew anyone that would be interested in an old Junkers engine, or maybe I would? The seller sold me a Cub diesel some 3 years or so ago, and I remembered that he had mentioned the Junkers at the time, but that it wasn't for sale. Anyway, we have struck a deal on the engine and we will collect next month when we get the end of month frolics over at the factory (we make most of our output in the last week or so of each month) Couple of pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg Happily, we already have a parts book in multi-language form from 1941 for this very engine, and an Operator's Manual in German. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu May 22 20:46:42 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:46:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: On May 22, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) > you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > Have fun! > > Dolly Either I'm growing, or my beer mug is becoming frightfully small! From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu May 22 20:50:22 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:50:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <49F27B5F-0AEB-4A69-931F-C6495792EAE8@rustyiron.com> On May 22, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Jim French wrote: > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web > design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip > pages, and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the > best way to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be > of interest to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There > may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me > know. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm > > Dolly Holy cow! Talk about the perfect mating of fine machinery with fine architecture! From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Thu May 22 20:51:59 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:51:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: <000501c8bc88$5adbaf60$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > Either I'm growing, or my beer mug is becoming frightfully small! > > But it said "DRINK ME " From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 23 01:04:32 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:04:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <6f6025160805230104w3f59a60en5361d6c8bfbd6ba8@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/22 Jim French : > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter Me? efficient? LOL! Come on, Helen, I have a reputation to think of! :-)) Nice pictures of the pumping station, there's coverage in Old Glory about 8 years ago with some aerial shots as well IIRC. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Fri May 23 03:51:05 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:51:05 +0000 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Message-ID: <052320081051.24418.4836A1990006840200005F62219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Jim & Helen, Very very interesting structure and your new website is great. thanks for sharing. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Jim French" To: Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:24:35 +0000 > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web design > software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, and it's not the > Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way to tackle those yet!). > But it is something which should be of interest to most of you, as it involves a > large engine! There may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, > please let me know. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Thu May 22 13:56:01 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:56:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> Awesome it is, pics and video both. > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tsZcLwEWr8 Cheers, Al Dave Merchant wrote: > By coincidence, I had just been looking at it in action on Youtube last night. > > Awesome architecture and craftsmanship. > > Dave Merchant > > > At 03:34 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >> Very interesting! >> >> Might have to stop by there sometime if I'm not in too big of a hurry to >> get to visit another collection ;-) >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French >> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:16 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] New Webpages >> >> Hi >> >> Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web >> design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, >> and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way >> to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest >> to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some >> errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm >> >> Dolly >> -- >> Jim French >> fbi at insulate.co.uk >> http://www.insulate.co.uk >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 23 08:12:17 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:12:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907099BF3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, Get that Junker's running and take it to the Nuenen show next year ;-) Would love to hear it run. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:33 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 Out of the blue, an old engine contact emailed me the other day, asking if I knew anyone that would be interested in an old Junkers engine, or maybe I would? The seller sold me a Cub diesel some 3 years or so ago, and I remembered that he had mentioned the Junkers at the time, but that it wasn't for sale. Anyway, we have struck a deal on the engine and we will collect next month when we get the end of month frolics over at the factory (we make most of our output in the last week or so of each month) Couple of pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg Happily, we already have a parts book in multi-language form from 1941 for this very engine, and an Operator's Manual in German. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri May 23 08:21:48 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:21:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is the museums web site http://www.cruquiusmuseum.nl/framesenglish.htm be sure to click on animation on the left for a step by step explanation on how it works. Very cool! Thanks for the pics, it is beautiful!!Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA> From: alharris44 at gmail.com> > Awesome it is, pics and video both.> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tsZcLwEWr8> > Cheers,> Al> > >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French> >>> >> Hi> >>> >> But it is something which should be of interest> >> to most of you, as it involves a large engine! > >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm> >>> >> Dolly> >> --> >> Jim French> >> fbi at insulate.co.uk> >> http://www.insulate.co.uk> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly _________________________________________________________________ Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause From edurand at mchsi.com Fri May 23 09:31:25 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:31:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Hello. My name ish Arnie and I'm here 'ta introduche my new lite beer. Only one schmall glash will do 'ya. 5000 proof! HIC!......Scuse me!" Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:47 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Caption Competition > > > > On May 22, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Jim French wrote: > > > Hi Folks > > > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I > that is, not Arnie!!!) > > you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions > for this picture: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > > > Have fun! > > > > Dolly > > > Either I'm growing, or my beer mug is becoming > frightfully small! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri May 23 11:12:21 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:12:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <49F27B5F-0AEB-4A69-931F-C6495792EAE8@rustyiron.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <49F27B5F-0AEB-4A69-931F-C6495792EAE8@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Thanks for all the comments on the Cruquius webpages. It really was a really memorable place. Now I've done the AFTER Nuenen pages, from our trip to Normandy http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normandy/normandy.htm I'm still adding captions! http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm Dolly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" > Holy cow! Talk about the perfect mating of fine machinery with fine > architecture! From MBellar at aol.com Fri May 23 12:17:47 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:17:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition Message-ID: Priming cup Tom Bellar **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 23 10:45:31 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:45:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907099BF3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907099BF3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805231045o56f8d2casa3e8d317d209b0d5@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/23 Best, George : > Peter, > > Get that Junker's running and take it to the Nuenen show next year ;-) > > Would love to hear it run. > > George > There is a scheme forming.... :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rskinner at rustyiron.com Fri May 23 15:38:01 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:38:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> One beer makes you larger Then the beer gets really small And your beloved mother Don't give you any beer at all Go ask Arnie When he's ten feet tall From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri May 23 15:54:41 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:54:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Message-ID: <410-22008552322544193@earthlink.net> That is very fascinating. The building in itself is a must see. Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri May 23 15:59:17 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:59:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition References: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> You are the man! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Caption Competition > One beer makes you larger > Then the beer gets really small > And your beloved mother > Don't give you any beer at all > Go ask Arnie > When he's ten feet tall > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at btes.tv Fri May 23 16:58:03 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:58:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <5ab161b2a9241480035a298e5b23ee0c@btes.tv> Right on! On May 23, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > You are the man! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Skinner" > >> One beer makes you larger >> Then the beer gets really small >> And your beloved mother >> Don't give you any beer at all >> Go ask Arnie >> When he's ten feet tall John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri May 23 17:23:14 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:23:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition References: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <001d01c8bd34$5ba99a90$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I cant wait'll they get to the logc and proportion falling sloppy dead part From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri May 23 22:53:29 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:53:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Steam and Machinery Museum Display Pics Message-ID: <20080524055325.PCTX1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Finally got a chance to sort out the pictures :) http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay081.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca Fri May 23 12:46:20 2008 From: buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca (Denis Rouleau) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:46:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?Spam=3E_Julien_Gasoline_Engine=2E?= References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c8bd0d$acdc1c70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Here is the story surrounding my latest engine acquisition, a JULIEN! http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/julien/page124.html Denis Rouleau From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Sat May 24 05:21:34 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:21:34 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: <4838084E.7060004@optusnet.com.au> Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > Have fun! > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > === "Here's to you in one small beer, Wishing it were wine. Here's to you and your Sweetheart, Not forgetting mine" JW? === From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat May 24 05:58:34 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:58:34 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition Message-ID: <052420081258.575.483810FA000041180000023F219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Here's my two cents worth..... " A little beer a day will keep the doctor away"! Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: Jack Watson To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Caption Competition Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:32:41 +0000 > Jim French wrote: > > Hi Folks > > > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks > would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > > > Have fun! > > > > Dolly > > -- > > Jim French > > fbi at insulate.co.uk > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > === > "Here's to you in one small beer, > Wishing it were wine. > Here's to you and your Sweetheart, > Not forgetting mine" > > JW? > === > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat May 24 23:13:17 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:13:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Engine information Message-ID: <20080524.231318.1904.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. A friend of mine just obtained this engine and would like some information. Does anyone have a manual or anything that would help him get it running, they are willing to share? Thanks. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193079912969330 http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193178697217154 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 01:10:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:10:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany Message-ID: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> Anton Van Der Cruijsen (one of the organisers of the Nuenen Rally) went across the border into Germany for a rally yesterday, and he took some pictures of a superb Junkers 2HK65 (same as our engine) which he emailed this morning. Pictures are at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermanyRed.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany2Red.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany3Red.jpg It is a later engine than our own, and has electric starter (not fitted but the mounting is there) vertical dynamo, driven off the drive for the governor and fuel pumps and a lot of fittings which we can relate to when we do our own engine. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 04:09:41 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:09:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Caterpillar 1Y73, Dynamometer and Trolley Message-ID: <6f6025160805250409k2ee35fa6ga0283aa58ce436f4@mail.gmail.com> We have pulled all the Caterpillar trolley construction stuff into a new page on the websites, following on from the main Caterpillar section: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu4.htm or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu4.htm There are 28 pages in total that are accessed from the menu page. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Sun May 25 05:04:13 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cam grundy) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:04:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Steam and Machinery Museum Display Pics In-Reply-To: <20080524055325.PCTX1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080524055325.PCTX1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000001c8be5f$7330fce0$5992f6a0$@com.au> Hi Patrick, thanks a million for pics Mate. Cheers Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick M Livingstone Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 3:53 PM To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Steam and Machinery Museum Display Pics Finally got a chance to sort out the pictures :) http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay081.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 07:45:54 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:45:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: I'm constantly surprised by the many different types of engine layouts there are. At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel engines are 2-cycle. Most folks think two cycle engines are gasoline mix fuelled and only on weed eaters and a few lawn mowers. Then there are opposed piston engines. People are boggled by the fact that there are so many of them out there. The Junkers 2HK65 type of O.P. engine with only one crankshaft is a variation on the F-M O.P. engines with two crankshafts and the list goes on. Air cooled radial aircraft Diesels are another surprise. When I tell some people about them, they think I'm bs'ing them until they see a photo of a Guiberson or Packard radial Diesel. And the list goes on. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:11 AM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine > Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany > > > Anton Van Der Cruijsen (one of the organisers of > the Nuenen Rally) > went across the border into Germany for a rally > yesterday, and he took > some pictures of a superb Junkers 2HK65 (same as > our engine) which he > emailed this morning. > > Pictures are at: > > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers GermanyRed.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany2Red.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany3Red.jpg It is a later engine than our own, and has electric starter (not fitted but the mounting is there) vertical dynamo, driven off the drive for the governor and fuel pumps and a lot of fittings which we can relate to when we do our own engine. Peter From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun May 25 08:25:39 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:25:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany References: Message-ID: <001501c8be7b$9acde9e0$25c20b52@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany > Peter: > I'm constantly surprised by the many different types of engine layouts there are. > At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel engines are 2-cycle. > Most folks think two cycle engines are gasoline mix fuelled and only on weed eaters and a few lawn mowers. > Then there are opposed piston engines. People are boggled by the fact that there are so many of them out there. The Junkers > 2HK65 type of O.P. engine with only one crankshaft is a variation on the F-M O.P. engines with two crankshafts and the list goes > on. > Air cooled radial aircraft Diesels are another surprise. When I tell some people about them, they think I'm bs'ing them until > they see a photo of a Guiberson or Packard radial Diesel. > And the list goes on. > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Eldon,The boat and Loco engine that I love is the Deltic. I don't suppose the low pollution people would like the exhaust though! See Deltic on Google & UTube. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 12:57:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:57:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: References: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805251257x7db469c0n4aeb0467dd5a9533@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > Peter: > > I'm constantly surprised by the many different types of engine layouts there are. > > At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel engines are 2-cycle. Most folks think two cycle engines are gasoline mix fuelled and only on weed eaters and a few lawn mowers. > > Then there are opposed piston engines. People are boggled by the fact that there are so many of them out there. The Junkers 2HK65 type of O.P. engine with only one crankshaft is a variation on the F-M O.P. engines with two crankshafts and the list goes on. > > Air cooled radial aircraft Diesels are another surprise. When I tell some people about them, they think I'm bs'ing them until they see a photo of a Guiberson or Packard radial Diesel. > > And the list goes on. > > Take care - Elden I believe that the Junkers patents may pre-date the F-M engines by some years, and that licencing was carried out all over the world prior to WW2 by Junkers. Junkers had twin-crank flat-12 diesels in aircraft prior and during WW2. If you take out automotive engines, most horse-power these days is probably generated by two-stroke engines of one type or another, especially if you take into consideration the very large marine diesels. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sun May 25 13:38:56 2008 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:38:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] locomotive Diesel engines Message-ID: Hi, Elden, Two-sroke railroad locomotive prime movers are becoming a thing of the past. The polution police don't like them any more than they would a Deltic.Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SDsluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Sun May 25 13:43:33 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:43:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany References: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805251257x7db469c0n4aeb0467dd5a9533@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <016101c8bea8$017001c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find > that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel > engines are 2-cycle The dominant maker of US locomotives is GE and they are 4 cycle and have been since they started. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net . From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 15:23:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:23:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <001501c8be7b$9acde9e0$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: Dave: I came across the Deltic a year or so ago. Talk about complicated!!!! AND here's Zontar in a couple of videos of Deltics. The first one shows a Deltic that has had a minor mechanical problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh4MBa1bk4w and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXvt25qFxB0 and here are some starting and running videos. I think the EPA would have aminor hissie-fit if they saw one of these! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG91fYHcm-k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8b8S4q8F8I&feature=related Question: The people taking these videos talk about "Clagging". Is this another word for smoking? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Dave Croft > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:26 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > .........................snip........................................ > Hi Eldon,The boat and Loco engine that I love is > the Deltic. > I don't suppose the low pollution people would > like the exhaust though! > See Deltic on Google & UTube. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 15:27:35 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:27:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805251257x7db469c0n4aeb0467dd5a9533@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: I can believe that 2-stroke Diesels make the majority of the industrial power in the world. I wonder exactly when F-M started manufacturing their O.P. engines? I believe they were used in U.S. WWII naval shipping and subs. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 02:57 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > I believe that the Junkers patents may pre-date > the F-M engines by > some years, and that licencing was carried out > all over the world > prior to WW2 by Junkers. Junkers had twin-crank > flat-12 diesels in > aircraft prior and during WW2. > > If you take out automotive engines, most > horse-power these days is > probably generated by two-stroke engines of one > type or another, > especially if you take into consideration the > very large marine > diesels. > > Peter From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 15:30:59 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:30:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <016101c8bea8$017001c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: Jim: Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. Electromotives. I also thought they were two cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, boat and heavy equipment engines. Have I been wrong all this time? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Kirkes > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:44 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > > > > At shows and in talking to the average > gearheads, I find > > that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel > > engines are 2-cycle > > The dominant maker of US locomotives is GE and they are 4 > cycle and have been since they started. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, California U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Sun May 25 15:50:36 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:50:36 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 (now loco engines) References: Message-ID: <01d501c8beb9$bf7d0d50$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Hi Elden, No, I don't think you have been all wrong. Some railroads have favored GE and some EMD. The big 6 buy a lot of both with Union Pacific ordering 1000 4000 HP diesels from EMD. In spite of that GE out sells EMD by a wide margin. EMD still makes two cycle diesels and they do meet current emision standards. The two cycle engines have some advantages in that they load faster. Ttheir big draw back is that they are 16 cyl engines and the GE engines are 12 cylinder so the 16 cyl overhaul cost is considerably more. Maybe not a big deal for one engine but if you have a couple of thousand it stacks up fast. Fuel economy has been a big issue for a long time and EMD has managed to stay in there with the two cycle design. BTW the latest development in loco design is the "gen set" loco which are becoming popular for yard use. The loco has 3 or 4 700 HP diesels, they come on and off as the load changes and stop completely if not used for 10 minutes or so. The fuel saving is claimed to be 60% over a one diesel loco. This big saving comes because most diesels in yard service do not operate at full power much of the time. At full power for long hauls the single engine is the better arrangement. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany Jim: Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. Electromotives. I also thought they were two cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, boat and heavy equipment engines. Have I been wrong all this time? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Kirkes > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:44 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > > > > At shows and in talking to the average > gearheads, I find > > that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel > > engines are 2-cycle > > The dominant maker of US locomotives is GE and they are 4 > cycle and have been since they started. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, California U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1465 - Release Date: 5/25/2008 1:22 PM From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 18:53:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:53:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: References: <016101c8bea8$017001c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <6f6025160805251853t28b5e3fw16f40a3290114a7a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > Jim: > > Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. Electromotives. I also thought they were two cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, boat and heavy equipment engines. > > Have I been wrong all this time? > > Take care - Elden I don't think so, GM / EMD are solidly 2-cycle, but Jim may have seen 4-valves per cylinder head and assumed that it was 4-cycle? Most big modern two-cycle engines are configured this way, with a scavenging blower, which is also partly supercharger, although turbochargers are on the modern units. There's a bit here that might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-Motive_Diesel#Introduction_of_the_645_engine Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kimmell at verizon.net Mon May 26 06:34:09 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:34:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: References: <001501c8be7b$9acde9e0$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: <0K1H00FDV9DNT6CP@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> I've often heard clag used in place of smoke. Must be a British thing... -Tony At 05:23 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote: >Question: The people taking these videos talk about "Clagging". Is >this another word for smoking? From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Mon May 26 09:48:51 2008 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:48:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Locomotive diesels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From Wiki: In 1998, EMD introduced the four-stroke 265H-Engine. Instead of completely replacing the 710 series engine, the H-Engine continues to be concurrently produced with the 710. 2004 saw CSX take order of the first SD70ACe locomotives that are designed to be more reliable, fuel efficient, and maintainable than its predecessor AC locomotive the SD70MAC. This model also meets the stringent EPA Tier 2 emission requirements using the tried and true 2-stroke 710 diesel engine. EMD has produced the following series of engines: EMD 567 ? no longer in production. EMD 645 ? no longer in production. EMD 710 ? currently in production. EMD 265 ? "H-Engine"; currently in production. The 567, 645, and 710 engine series is 2 cycle; the number refers to the displacement per cylinder. They have come in 8, 12, 16, and 20 cylinder versions that I know of. The early 20's had a problem breaking cranks. The 265 refers to the bore in MM. More than nyone needs to know: http://www.sdrm.org/roster/diesel/emd/history/ http://www.emdiesels.com/lms/en/locomotive/innovations/engine/Hengine/index.htm So, I guess everyone is partially correct.Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SDsluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From edurand at mchsi.com Tue May 27 07:35:00 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:35:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805251853t28b5e3fw16f40a3290114a7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, all, for the education. I lurn somepin' ever day seemslike! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 08:54 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > > Jim: > > > > Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years > ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in > Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere > else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. > Electromotives. I also thought they were two > cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, > boat and heavy equipment engines. > > > > Have I been wrong all this time? > > > > Take care - Elden > > I don't think so, GM / EMD are solidly 2-cycle, > but Jim may have seen > 4-valves per cylinder head and assumed that it > was 4-cycle? > > Most big modern two-cycle engines are configured > this way, with a > scavenging blower, which is also partly > supercharger, although > turbochargers are on the modern units. > > There's a bit here that might help: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-Motive_Diesel #Introduction_of_the_645_engine Peter From flywheelin at hotmail.com Tue May 27 11:05:00 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:05:00 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb Message-ID: I'm hoping someone can tell me what kind of engine this carb would be for. It was in a box of stuff I picked up at an auction sale. It has the IHC logo in the casting along with some numbers. It has two needle valves along with a finger operated choke plate. See the seven pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-390f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-391f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-392f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-393f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-394f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-395f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-396f.jpg Any ideas? Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From frappi at wcoil.com Tue May 27 11:36:30 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:36:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080527143611.02fd6180@pop3.wcoil.com> Tom Thumb isn't it? Mark At 02:05 PM 5/27/08, you wrote: >I'm hoping someone can tell me what kind of engine this carb would be for. >It was in a box of stuff I picked up at an auction sale. It has the IHC >logo in the casting along with some numbers. It has two needle valves >along with a finger operated choke plate. See the seven pictures here: > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-390f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-391f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-392f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-393f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-394f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-395f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-396f.jpg > >Any ideas? > >Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA >_________________________________________________________________ >E-mail for the greater good. Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft. >http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue May 27 12:37:57 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:37:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb References: Message-ID: <002301c8c031$2e37d2c0$25c20b52@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "Engine List" Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb I'm hoping someone can tell me what kind of engine this carb would be for. It was in a box of stuff I picked up at an auction sale. It has the IHC logo in the casting along with some numbers. It has two needle valves along with a finger operated choke plate. See the seven pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-390f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-391f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-392f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-393f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-394f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-395f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-396f.jpg Any ideas? Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA _________________________________________________________________ Hi Luke, It doesn't look like a Tom Thumb to me! I have a plan of a TT at http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1264728133028520097iTGRrO I only remember one needle valve on mine. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 17:49:14 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:49:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> I cant send messages. From buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca Tue May 27 18:05:47 2008 From: buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca (Denis Rouleau) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:05:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> I can't send messages either! ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Watts To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: [SEL] Test I cant send messages. From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:12:21 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:12:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone Update Message-ID: <00bc01c8c05f$e1b7bbc0$f3bc693a@fred> We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make hotbulb & inspirator, new photos on Webshots. Brian Watts briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:17:54 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:17:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Vertical Blackstone Update Message-ID: <00fe01c8c060$a8313650$f3bc693a@fred> ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Watts To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Vertical Blackstone Update We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make hotbulb & inspirator, new photos on Webshots. Brian Watts briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue May 27 18:00:00 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:00:00 EDT Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: Received here at 5:56PM PST In a message dated 5/27/2008 5:58:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, briwatt at optusnet.com.au writes: I cant send messages. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From langer5 at sympatico.ca Tue May 27 18:22:53 2008 From: langer5 at sympatico.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:22:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> <000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Message-ID: Your coming through loud and clear here in southern Ontario. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Rouleau" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Test >I can't send messages either! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Watts > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: [SEL] Test > > > I cant send messages. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Tue May 27 19:11:27 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:11:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <001901c8c068$27632580$0300a8c0@sheeba> Oh, ok. Guess you didn't send this, then -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Watts Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Test I cant send messages. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 28 01:58:04 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:58:04 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805280158l23d91070gdcd7432f26b7e982@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/17 Listerdiesel : > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial > 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx. We have rolled all the pictures etc up into one new section on the websites: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanMenu4.htm or at http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanMenu4.htm There are 32 picture pages with the usual thumbnail menu. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From nancydick at pennswoods.net Wed May 28 06:12:57 2008 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:12:57 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <20080528101259.BB08C229E78@md5.pennswoods.net> That is an awful feeling Brian. But it made it to PA R Fink At 10:49 AM 5/28/2008 +1000, you wrote: >I cant send messages. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release Date: >5/26/2008 3:23 PM From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed May 28 03:31:31 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:31:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material Message-ID: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and where I could get some in Oz? I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not be available anymore :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From russell at ncable.com.au Wed May 28 04:05:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:05:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080528210436.02093608@ncable.com.au> Brian I recon your messages must only come to specail people! I got it. your blacky looks nice BTW What is the rest of the caption on the blackstone sign in your shed pics? Russell At 10:49 AM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >I cant send messages. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rotigel at alltel.net Wed May 28 05:37:29 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material In-Reply-To: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: Patrick, How big a piece do you need and how soon do you need it? Dave On May 28, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Patrick M Livingstone wrote: > Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets > and > where I could get some in Oz? > I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems > to not be > available anymore :( > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Wed May 28 07:17:52 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:17:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Message-ID: I didn't get that. Very faint. ......could you repeat it. > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Denis > Rouleau > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 08:06 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > > > I can't send messages either! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Watts > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: [SEL] Test > > > I cant send messages. From rmedihc at aol.com Wed May 28 09:35:04 2008 From: rmedihc at aol.com (rmedihc at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:35:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb Message-ID: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed May 28 09:54:31 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:54:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb In-Reply-To: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <483D8E47.4050705@scrtc.com> I thought the same thing but wasn't for sure. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 28 09:57:07 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:57:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine information In-Reply-To: <20080524.231318.1904.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20080524.231318.1904.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E6401059071232BA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Ron, Checked my German book and about all I can tell you is that engine is probably built after 1946. The book has a 1946 Model DM15 which is similar to the one you have pictures for, but your pictures are for a DM15N and with a higher serial number than the one in the book. I don't know what the differences are between a DM15 and a DM15N, other than the obvious differences of slightly different rpms and hp range. Don't have any starting information. But I'm guessing they start easy once you know the secret ;-) Can't tell you much else. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:13 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Engine information Hi all. A friend of mine just obtained this engine and would like some information. Does anyone have a manual or anything that would help him get it running, they are willing to share? Thanks. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193079912969330 http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193178697217154 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From MBellar at aol.com Wed May 28 13:05:09 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:05:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed Message-ID: I have found a reproduction cart handle to complete my Famous vertical restoration. The reproduction can be picked up at the Coolspring show, but I need to find transportation from Coolspring to within an hour drive of Cincinnati, OH. Apparently the handle is too bulky to ship. I am a sole care provider for my wife and can only get away for about 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00 on Mon, Wed, or Fridays so connection on this end could be a problem. I would be very thankful if any of the List members could help out. Contact me off List Tom Bellar about 26 miles East of Cincinnati **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From russell at ncable.com.au Wed May 28 14:57:53 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:57:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material In-Reply-To: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080529075600.022f5830@ncable.com.au> Patrick I recently purchased good size sheet through Repco, was about 500x350mm, it was the re-enforced gear with the thin metal sheet through the middle of the gasket material. Try a local store and see how you go. Russell At 08:31 PM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and >where I could get some in Oz? >I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not be >available anymore :( > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From gastzt at aol.com Wed May 28 15:11:54 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:11:54 EDT Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material Message-ID: That is GREAT head gasket stuff---I used it on a 8hp Stover--- works like a charm! Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Tx USA **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From frappi at wcoil.com Wed May 28 15:15:45 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:15:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Jefferson Electric Coil. Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080528180341.02f0bab0@pop3.wcoil.com> Hello All, I was hoping to get some info as to the useage of this coil with pic links below. Is it a spark coil for engines or some other use? Its only Marking other then the Jefferson Electric Mfg. Co Chicago Ill. brass tag is A 403 6 volts on the metal base and A 403 COIL on the paper? wrap of the windings. It stands about 6" tall overall. I thought it was a gas engine ignition coil at first but I am having some doubts about that now. Can anyone provide any info? I didn't know there was a web site on Jefferson Electric till I went looking for info to identify the useage of this coil. Someone probably has it book marked on one of the many members links pages but Check out http://www.roger-russell.com/jeffers/jeffers.htm Then see the coil I am asking about . TTYL, Mark http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec1.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec2.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec3.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec4.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec5.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec6.jpg Thank You, Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, Ohio Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Home #419.358.5206 From gastzt at aol.com Wed May 28 16:02:55 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:02:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed Message-ID: Gosh Tom! If I was anyplace close to there I would be GLAD to help! We just went to Ohio (Malta) to get an old '52 Dodge 1-ton truck! (on flatbed trailer)---Gonna use it to haul my old 8hp Stover in! Sure enjoyed the trip! Lotsa' miles! Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Texas take care now and say hi to wife! **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Wed May 28 16:19:44 2008 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:19:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Jefferson Electric Coil. In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080528180341.02f0bab0@pop3.wcoil.com> References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080528180341.02f0bab0@pop3.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <483DE890.5060702@accnorwalk.com> Mark, Looks like a coil from a light plant to me. Seems my Genco plant has a coil similar to that. Is there a resistor wire under the cap for bringing 32v down to 6?? Doug Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hello All, > I was hoping to get some info as to the useage of this coil with pic > links below. Is it a spark coil for engines or some other use? Its > only Marking other then the Jefferson Electric Mfg. Co Chicago Ill. > brass tag is A 403 6 volts on the metal base and A 403 COIL on the > paper? wrap of the windings. It stands about 6" tall overall. I > thought it was a gas engine ignition coil at first but I am having > some doubts about that now. > Can anyone provide any info? > I didn't know there was a web site on Jefferson Electric till I went > looking for info to identify the useage of this coil. Someone probably > has it book marked on one of the many members links pages but Check out > http://www.roger-russell.com/jeffers/jeffers.htm > > Then see the coil I am asking about . TTYL, Mark > > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec1.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec2.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec3.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec4.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec5.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec6.jpg > > Thank You, Mark > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, Ohio > Email: Frappi at wcoil.com > Home #419.358.5206 > > > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > From johnculp at btes.tv Wed May 28 19:25:30 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:25:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom, please let us know your secret for getting in 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00. I could use all the help I can get with that! :-D My sympathies to you and your wife. John On May 28, 2008, at 4:05 PM, MBellar at aol.com wrote: > ...can only get away for about 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00... John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Sat May 24 23:15:37 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:15:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone Message-ID: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> IWe have added some more photos on the progress on the Vert. Lamp start Blackstone. Photos on webshots site below. David Watts (03) 87616332 damewatt at bigpond.com Brian Watts (03) 97266147 briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 01:43:42 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:43:42 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone In-Reply-To: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> References: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> Message-ID: <9CB76F78A8A54EE599D97986FFFA2F6B@KerryPC> G'Day Brian / David Great job you have been doing to the Blacky, well done What is the brass like finish to the metal work Kerry > IWe have added some more photos on the progress on the Vert. Lamp start > Blackstone. > Photos on webshots site below. > > David Watts (03) 87616332 > damewatt at bigpond.com > > Brian Watts (03) 97266147 > briwatt at optusnet.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu May 29 01:59:21 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 04:59:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" References: Message-ID: <003101c8c16a$490b9890$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> Reminiscent of the Tod Engine Project of twelve years ago ( has it been THAT LONG!) I now again find myself deep in the bowels of a steel mill wrestling with parts from another of Mr. William Tod's creations. This time, instead of saving an entire 260 ton cross compound rolling mill engine, I am trying to save a few parts from an even larger 1000 ton twin tandem compound reversing engine before it goes to scrap. I have posted to Harry's Old Engine with a bit more info. and a few pictures of this engine. http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=306522#post306522 Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu May 29 04:25:00 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:25:00 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" References: <003101c8c16a$490b9890$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <01f801c8c17e$a3f48410$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Hey Rick, you are something else!! I really take my hat off to you for your drive and ability to bite such a big chunk off. I wish I had left, a fraction of what drives you. I sit back and just admire your spirit these days. Please keep us all informed on the outcome. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" > Reminiscent of the Tod Engine Project of twelve years ago ( has it been > THAT > LONG!) I now again find myself deep in the bowels of a steel mill > wrestling > with parts from another of Mr. William Tod's creations. > > This time, instead of saving an entire 260 ton cross compound rolling mill > engine, I am trying to save a few parts from an even larger 1000 ton twin > tandem compound reversing engine before it goes to scrap. > > I have posted to Harry's Old Engine with a bit more info. and a few > pictures > of this engine. > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=306522#post306522 > > Rick Rowlands > Executive Director > Tod Engine Foundation > "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" > 2261 Hubbard Road > Youngstown, OH 44505 > 330-272-4089 > www.todengine.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From MBellar at aol.com Thu May 29 06:53:56 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:53:56 EDT Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed Message-ID: In a message dated 5/28/2008 10:28:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johnculp at btes.tv writes: Tom, please let us know your secret for getting in 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00. I could use all the help I can get with that! :-D List Members; Many thanks for all the offers and suggestions. I think that I can contact a local old iron person to get the help I need. John: Time warp??? It is simple but not apparent. My wife goes to Senior Services three days a week and I must be home by 3:00 PM to resume my responsibilities. Senior Services is a God send for me, but I don't think you meet their minimum specifications to qualify an additional hour added to the day. Tom Bellar **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu May 29 10:45:40 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:45:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb In-Reply-To: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies on and off list. I found these pictures and it does appear to be for a kerosene burning 1hp Titan Jr. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/jr.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/ihctitanjr.jpgLuke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA =========================> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:35:04 -0400> From: rmedihc at aol.com> Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb> > I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu May 29 10:52:50 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:52:50 +0000 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb In-Reply-To: References: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Sorry about the messed up links, don't know why my messages are all squished together........ http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/jr.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/ihctitanjr.jpg Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA> From: flywheelin at hotmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:45:40 +0000> Subject: Re: [SEL] IHC Carb> > > Thanks for the replies on and off list. I found these pictures and it does appear to be for a kerosene burning 1hp Titan Jr.> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/jr.jpg> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/ihctitanjr.jpg Luke Tonneberger> Rockford, Michigan> USA> =========================> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:35:04 -0400> From: rmedihc at aol.com> Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb> > I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu May 29 14:06:50 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:06:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" References: <003101c8c16a$490b9890$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> <01f801c8c17e$a3f48410$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <007401c8c1cf$ea1bf170$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> Thanks Reg. I just can't help but love these big engines, and I do what I can to save what I can. But the one who deserves the good words is my wife, who tolerates my big iron obsession! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & M Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" > Hey Rick, you are something else!! I really take my hat off to you for > your > drive and ability to bite such a big chunk off. > I wish I had left, a fraction of what drives you. > I sit back and just admire your spirit these days. > Please keep us all informed on the outcome. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM > Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" > > >> Reminiscent of the Tod Engine Project of twelve years ago ( has it been >> THAT >> LONG!) I now again find myself deep in the bowels of a steel mill >> wrestling >> with parts from another of Mr. William Tod's creations. >> >> This time, instead of saving an entire 260 ton cross compound rolling >> mill >> engine, I am trying to save a few parts from an even larger 1000 ton twin >> tandem compound reversing engine before it goes to scrap. >> >> I have posted to Harry's Old Engine with a bit more info. and a few >> pictures >> of this engine. >> >> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=306522#post306522 >> >> Rick Rowlands >> Executive Director >> Tod Engine Foundation >> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" >> 2261 Hubbard Road >> Youngstown, OH 44505 >> 330-272-4089 >> www.todengine.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 17:48:13 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:48:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Vertical Blackstone Message-ID: <004b01c8c05c$849b8cd0$f3bc693a@fred> Subject: Vertical Blackstone We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make ,hotbulb & inspirator.photos on webshots. Brian Watts . http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 16:25:59 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:25:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <008a01c8c051$063bde90$f3bc693a@fred> Test From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Mon May 26 21:05:11 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:05:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cant send to list? Message-ID: <001701c8bfae$dd572630$f3bc693a@fred> Test From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 17:59:12 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:59:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Vertical Blackstone Message-ID: <008d01c8c05e$0badd6a0$f3bc693a@fred> ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Watts To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Fw: Vertical Blackstone Subject: Vertical Blackstone We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make ,hotbulb & inspirator.photos on webshots. Brian Watts . http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu May 29 16:18:20 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <008a01c8c051$063bde90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <02ad01c8c1e2$48cb6cc0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Hi Brian, I was completely unable to recieve your test message, could you send it again? Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Watts" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: [SEL] Test Test From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 16:22:29 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:22:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test ? Sorry ! Message-ID: <007801c8c1e2$ddb8e1f0$f3bc693a@fred> Sorry about the Test emails, I had a problem in my computer, I don`t know what happened, today I started getting back all my emails that that I sent 2 days ago. Brian. From johnculp at btes.tv Thu May 29 16:49:36 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:49:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shucks! Thanks, Tom! :-) John On May 29, 2008, at 9:53 AM, MBellar at aol.com wrote: > John: > > Time warp??? It is simple but not apparent. My wife goes to Senior > Services > three days a week and I must be home by 3:00 PM to resume my > responsibilities. Senior Services is a God send for me, but I don't > think you meet their > minimum specifications to qualify an additional hour added to the day. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 17:42:46 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:42:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test ? Sorry ! In-Reply-To: <007801c8c1e2$ddb8e1f0$f3bc693a@fred> References: <007801c8c1e2$ddb8e1f0$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <5FAAC74A1431475492E14F06B004EBF8@KerryPC> G'Day Brian You will find that the problem is that Spencer's (SEL) virus protection blacklists Optusnet, been through this, they usually come through up to 48 hrs later but sometimes nearly straight away. I have spoken to Optusnet not their problem and Spencer can operate the list the way he wants, has not been a problem lately but two of my replies about your Blackstone never came through at all. The last time I was having major delays I sent to list using Yahoo. Cannot believe that Optusnet is a problem and Yahoo is not with all the crap I get on Yahoo Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz Sent 10.40 am 30th May > Sorry about the Test emails, I had a problem in my computer, I don`t know > what happened, today I started getting back all my emails that that I sent > 2 days ago. > Brian. From jlb94 at juno.com Thu May 29 18:06:34 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Steam engine looking for good home Message-ID: <20080529.210655.1196.5.jlb94@juno.com> Hey List - I received this e-mail today. Anyone interested ??? THere were 4 pics attached. If interested in the pics - e-mail me and I will send them to your e-mail. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Don Albacker" To: Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:43 -0400 Subject: Steam engine looking for good home Message-ID: <000001c8c1eb$b2e61e80$18b25b80$@com> Dear Sir, I am the executor for the estate of Ben Roseberry. He was a Steam Train person and built a locomotive and 1 ? cars before passing away. Someone in your club may have corresponded with Ben. I know he went to several Tri-state Historical Steam Engine reunions. A) I am selling the train and track, etc. The description is below and picture of the locomotive is attached. I ask that you please forward this to your membership to see if there is interest. B) Also because of PA Estate Tax rules I have to have the train appraised. Can you provide any names of appraisers? The train is in Green County, PA, the SW corner of PA. I assume the appraiser has to be licensed in some way. Perhaps you can educate me on that. C) I am not clear if you are in the Tri-state group or not. Can you direct me to one of that organizations officers. I really appreciate any help or direction you can provide. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- R.S.Corp. C.P. 173 4-4-0, 1?? scale, 7?? gauge, coal or propane fired, box car w/propane tank, Brass Lantern Bobber Caboose (L.S. 1979) approx. ? complete, 650? new aluminum rail and 280? ground level track, 2 switches, 2 crossovers, rail bender, track gauges, other material and equipment, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Don Albacker J&J Wealth Advisors, LLC 41 University Drive, Suite 400, Newtown, PA 18940 2001 Route 46, Suite 310, Parsippany, NJ 07054 877-772-3744 www.jjwealthadv.com Securities offered through Royal Alliance Associates, Inc. Member FINRA & SIPC Advisory Services offered through Investment Advisors Asset Management, LLC, a registered investment advisor. ____________________________________________________________ Bills adding up? Click here for free information on payday loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m3aOCxEL3ViJpAg2Z10JPKmT2Upo6KebXAyVsGVDVHr7Ckd/ From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri May 30 01:30:44 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:30:44 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material In-Reply-To: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <20080530083041.JPPF1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Today I found a Repco with a slightly more knowledgeable staff member. They did not have any in their store but got some in for me. Now I can make some head gaskets!!! Thanks to all those who offered to send me material to make gaskets. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and where I could get some in Oz? I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not be available anymore :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Fri May 30 20:04:54 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello from Japan, especially to English contingent on the list. Some years ago, one of the lads (perhaps John Palmer ?? ) sent me a 15 x 24cm National Gas Engine Co. Ltd. Catalogue, which I subsequently loaned to a buddy (??) for copying. It was not returned in tact. I want to get another. Inside the front cover is the following info ( which does nor elicit a response from Google Search ): 1977 Eng-Trac Publications ISBN 0 906113 02 4 Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. Holme on Spalding Moor, York Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Or another source for copy of National Catalogue circa 1902? Thanks, Bill Bill Young wmlyoung at yahoo.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 30 21:20:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 05:20:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805302120u56092624i287201cad7b44d6a@mail.gmail.com> Bill: That ISBN is coming up as an invalid number, even with the extra spaces removed. Peter On 31/05/2008, William Young wrote: > Hello from Japan, especially to English contingent on the list. > Some years ago, one of the lads (perhaps John Palmer ?? ) sent me a 15 x > 24cm > National Gas Engine Co. Ltd. Catalogue, which I subsequently loaned to a > buddy (??) for copying. It was not returned in tact. I want to get > another. > Inside the front cover is the following info ( which does nor elicit a > response from Google Search ): 1977 Eng-Trac Publications ISBN 0 906113 > 02 4 > Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. > Holme on Spalding Moor, York > > Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Or another source for copy of National > Catalogue > circa 1902? Thanks, Bill > > Bill Young > wmlyoung at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Wed May 28 15:59:15 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Caption. References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> <7.0.1.0.1.20080528210436.02093608@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <00c201c8c116$7426a4b0$f3bc693a@fred> Hi Russell, We wanted a sign for our shed,too dear to buy ,so we made our own. briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > Brian I recon your messages must only come to specail people! I got it. > your blacky looks nice BTW > > What is the rest of the caption on the blackstone sign in your shed pics? > Russell > > At 10:49 AM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>I cant send messages. >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 27/05/2008 1:25 PM From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:15:07 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:15:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <6FF1692B72404BF4BF12D1D9D54DE0D3@KerryPC> G'Day Brian You sent that one OK Kerry >I cant send messages. > _______________________________________________ > From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:52:19 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:52:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred><000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Message-ID: <003e01c8c065$77bc5400$f3bc693a@fred> Thanks Guys , am back on line again. Brian Watts (03) 97266147 briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > Your coming through loud and clear here in southern Ontario. > > Larry Anger > 163926 Brownsville Rd. > R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario > Canada N4G 4G8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denis Rouleau" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > > >>I can't send messages either! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brian Watts >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Test >> >> >> I cant send messages. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 27/05/2008 1:25 PM From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 31 10:37:38 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:37:38 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Petter PU8 4kW 110V DC Searchlight Generator Message-ID: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> For some inexplicable reason, we bought this bl**dy great lump on ebay this week! :-)) No2 son went down to Southampton and collected it in his little Vauxhall Combo van, something that I would have said was not possible, but he got it in there with room and weight to spare. It is nicely original, quirky bits on the engine design, GEC generator and control electrics, pretty much original down to the toolboxes (wooden) on top of the frame and starting handle. The silencer is rusted out, judging by the huge shower of rust when we dropped it out of the back of Philip's van, but apart from a couple of stuck valves, it look as if it hasn't done a lot of work at all. I did take some pictures today but the lighting outside was a bit unusual (sun+cloud) and they came out a bit flat and lacking contrast, so I'll retake them tomorrow with the newer camera. Looking for any info on the unit. Anyone else got one? I seem to remember Kerry having one tucked away somewhere? maybe not a complete genny? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 31 12:15:29 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:15:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805311215k45c0aaf2k83495eb621cce9bc@mail.gmail.com> On 31/05/2008, William Young wrote: > Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. > Holme on Spalding Moor, York > > Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Yes, there is a company called Baldry's Coaches at that address, so I guess that one of the family may have a connection with that original publication: Baldry's Coaches Leyllandi, Water End, Holme On Spalding Moor, York, YO43 4HA. Tel: 01430-860992 I'll give them a call on Monday and see what I can find out for you. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 16:15:19 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:15:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone References: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> <9CB76F78A8A54EE599D97986FFFA2F6B@KerryPC> Message-ID: <006201c8c1e1$dd8d81a0$f3bc693a@fred> Hi Kerry, The finish was obtained by bead blasting off all paint and then immediately applying a thick coat of boiled linseed oil. This had to be done within 10minutes before the castings started oxidising. We have now stopped painting any Engines and some we are removing paint and trying to keep them in their aged condition. Brian / David. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone > G'Day Brian / David > > Great job you have been doing to the Blacky, well done > > What is the brass like finish to the metal work > > Kerry > > > >> IWe have added some more photos on the progress on the Vert. Lamp start >> Blackstone. >> Photos on webshots site below. >> >> David Watts (03) 87616332 >> damewatt at bigpond.com >> >> Brian Watts (03) 97266147 >> briwatt at optusnet.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.3/1472 - Release Date: 29/05/2008 7:27 AM From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Fri May 30 03:09:41 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Caption. Message-ID: <001101c8c23d$518a4970$f3bc693a@fred> I am resending this email as I keep getting it returned to me with an attachment that I did not include, I think I may have fixed the problem but need to keep testing. Hope I do not offend any List Members. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Watts" To: "Brian" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Fw: Caption. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Watts" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:59 AM > Subject: Caption. > > >> Hi Russell, >> We wanted a sign for our shed,too dear to buy ,so we made our own. >> briwatt at optusnet.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Russell Gilbert" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Test >> >> >>> Brian I recon your messages must only come to specail people! I got it. >>> your blacky looks nice BTW >>> >>> What is the rest of the caption on the blackstone sign in your shed >>> pics? >>> Russell >>> >>> At 10:49 AM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>>>I cant send messages. >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> Russell Gilbert >>> Sunny Sunraysia >>> russell at ncable.com.au >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: >> 27/05/2008 1:25 PM >> > From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Wed May 28 15:24:09 2008 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:24:09 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080529075600.022f5830@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <005e01c8c111$8d08fb40$ae57693a@Edd> Patrick.Try this.It is not called manifoldite now.It is called manifold material sheet and is made by ACL.The # on it is PM762. Bar code # 9315466018041 .The 9 at the front is smaller than the rest of the # so may not be used. EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Head Gasket Material > Patrick I recently purchased good size sheet through Repco, was > about 500x350mm, it was the re-enforced gear with the thin metal > sheet through the middle of the gasket material. Try a local store > and see how you go. > Russell > > At 08:31 PM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and >>where I could get some in Oz? >>I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not >>be >>available anymore :( >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri May 30 22:39:17 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:39:17 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4840E485.4050206@gmail.com> Bill, I don't know what cattle dog you're seeking, maybe it's available through the National Archives site links from the page below. Good luck, there's quite a few. And there's a few other "general interest" references that showed up below that. > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=131-dd64&cid=0 > http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/news/htn57/htn57.htm > http://home.btconnect.com/stationaryengine/engines/national.htm > http://ashton-under-lyne.blogspot.com/2008/04/national-gas-engine-company.html > http://www.enginemuseum.org/natcomp.html Cheers, Al Harris Clarence Coast NSW Oz William Young wrote: > Hello from Japan, especially to English contingent on the list. > Some years ago, one of the lads (perhaps John Palmer ?? ) sent me a 15 x 24cm > National Gas Engine Co. Ltd. Catalogue, which I subsequently loaned to a buddy (??) for copying. It was not returned in tact. I want to get another. > Inside the front cover is the following info ( which does nor elicit a response from Google Search ): 1977 Eng-Trac Publications ISBN 0 906113 02 4 > Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. > Holme on Spalding Moor, York > > Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Or another source for copy of National Catalogue > circa 1902? Thanks, Bill > > Bill Young > wmlyoung at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sat May 31 13:35:00 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:35:00 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Message-ID: <13BE9BFAE6B04527A456648CF8CA2314@FBI> Hi Folks At last, I've finished my Nuenen pages http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen/nuenen1.htm also added a couple of YouTube videos to the relevant pages of the Cruquius museum http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm and our visit to the Normandy D-Day landing beaches. http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normandy/normandy.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From rotigel at alltel.net Sat May 31 13:59:32 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:59:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen In-Reply-To: <13BE9BFAE6B04527A456648CF8CA2314@FBI> References: <13BE9BFAE6B04527A456648CF8CA2314@FBI> Message-ID: <39EBA2EC-1059-4847-BD17-3BF6A740C68B@alltel.net> Hi Dolly, GREAT pictures and GREAT photography! Thanks for the tour! Dave PS, Arnie, You don't show up until p.4.--what the hell did you do wrong this time? PPS, Damned "ugly Americans!" -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 31, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > At last, I've finished my Nuenen pages > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen/nuenen1.htm > > also added a couple of YouTube videos to the relevant pages of the > Cruquius museum http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/ > cruquius.htm > and our visit to the Normandy D-Day landing beaches. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normandy/normandy.htm > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 31 14:55:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:55:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Petter PU8 4kW 110V DC Searchlight Generator In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805311455w59ac9d9o2ff8bd3a382b9d8@mail.gmail.com> On 31/05/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > For some inexplicable reason, we bought this bl**dy great lump on ebay > this week! :-)) > Quick set of pictures (13 at present) at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Petterdata/PetterPU8Menu1.htm or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Petterdata/PetterPU8Menu1.htm More tomorrow. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Sat May 31 15:15:48 2008 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:15:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML><7.0.1.0.1.20080529075600.022f5830@ncable.com.au> <005e01c8c111$8d08fb40$ae57693a@Edd> Message-ID: <001701c8c36b$e18b0300$ae57693a@Edd> Just got this,1/6/18. and I sent it on the 29/5/08.This makes it real hard to help people when they don't get your info!!!Wonder how long this reply will take. EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edd Payne" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Head Gasket Material > Patrick.Try this.It is not called manifoldite now.It is called manifold > material sheet and is made by ACL.The # on it is PM762. > Bar code # 9315466018041 .The 9 at the front is smaller than the rest of > the # so may not be used. > EDD PAYNE > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W > Australia > 2852 > Phone:0263742387 > edsengns at optusnet.com.au > edsengns > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell Gilbert" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:57 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Head Gasket Material > > >> Patrick I recently purchased good size sheet through Repco, was >> about 500x350mm, it was the re-enforced gear with the thin metal >> sheet through the middle of the gasket material. Try a local store >> and see how you go. >> Russell >> >> At 08:31 PM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>>Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and >>>where I could get some in Oz? >>>I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not >>>be >>>available anymore :( >>> >>>Patrick M Livingstone >>>Leichhardt NSW >>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> Russell Gilbert >> Sunny Sunraysia >> russell at ncable.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Sat May 31 15:17:14 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:17:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Petter PU8 4kW 110V DC Searchlight Generator In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <76A00ECF2D864F6D80A5E4B311DE27A2@KerryPC> G'Day Peter I have a PU8 motor unit only not fitted with a generator see http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Photos/Petter.JPG I have an original manual that I could copy and snail if it will help but nothing on the generator. The story of mine and a second unit a mate got is that a bloke and his brother lives in the mountains in a somewhat lost beautiful valley, not hill billy stuff and come to town once a week, anyway they had bought the two units from army surplus wore one unit out (mine) and still using the other with an old 12v car generator tied to the frame and a V belt to the motor unit, they then run a 12v cable into their house/shack for lighting, when we got the units they bought a Honda motor unit only and again strapped the old generator on it as " it works just fine don't need anything else". Kerry > For some inexplicable reason, we bought this bl**dy great lump on ebay > this week! :-)) > > No2 son went down to Southampton and collected it in his little > Vauxhall Combo van, something that I would have said was not possible, > but he got it in there with room and weight to spare. > > It is nicely original, quirky bits on the engine design, GEC generator > and control electrics, pretty much original down to the toolboxes > (wooden) on top of the frame and starting handle. > > The silencer is rusted out, judging by the huge shower of rust when we > dropped it out of the back of Philip's van, but apart from a couple of > stuck valves, it look as if it hasn't done a lot of work at all. > > I did take some pictures today but the lighting outside was a bit > unusual (sun+cloud) and they came out a bit flat and lacking contrast, > so I'll retake them tomorrow with the newer camera. > > Looking for any info on the unit. Anyone else got one? I seem to > remember Kerry having one tucked away somewhere? maybe not a complete > genny? > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: > 30/05/2008 2:53 PM > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat May 31 20:23:43 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] Message-ID: <4842163F.6040705@scrtc.com> I'm sure several of you have received this from Harry. If not, this tells why you can't access Harry's Old Engine for the time being. Tommy Turner -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Harry's Site Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:42 -0400 From: Harry To: Judge Tommy Turner References: <482C9584.4090101 at scrtc.com> Please forward: At least it's not our server that's in trouble, but we cannot get through to the web. A major datacenter outage due to a transformer fire in the power distribution center. The fire department demanded that the generators be shut down. All servers are OK and all switches and routers are OK. Working on it. -- Harry -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM From bdb at mchsi.com Sat May 31 20:32:25 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:32:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] References: <4842163F.6040705@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000601c8c398$1cbb2050$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Thanks for the information Tommy but I am starting to go through withdrawal, I need an EngineAds fix! Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:23 PM Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] > I'm sure several of you have received this from Harry. If not, this > tells why you can't access Harry's Old Engine for the time being. > > Tommy Turner > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Harry's Site > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:42 -0400 > From: Harry > To: Judge Tommy Turner > References: <482C9584.4090101 at scrtc.com> > > > > Please forward: > > At least it's not our server that's in trouble, but we cannot get through > to > the web. A major datacenter outage due to a transformer fire in the power > distribution center. The fire department demanded that the generators be > shut down. All servers are OK and all switches and routers are OK. Working > on it. > > -- Harry > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 > 12:25 PM > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat May 31 20:45:50 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:45:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] In-Reply-To: <000601c8c398$1cbb2050$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> References: <4842163F.6040705@scrtc.com> <000601c8c398$1cbb2050$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <48421B6E.8000003@scrtc.com> Yes Barry! You don't realize how you enjoy viewing the ads and reading the posts until they aren't there! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY bdb wrote: >Thanks for the information Tommy but I am starting to go through withdrawal, >I need an EngineAds fix! >Barry > >Barry D Buchanan >410 S. Moore >Ottumwa, IA. 52501 > >When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >like a nail. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:23 PM >Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] > > > > >>I'm sure several of you have received this from Harry. If not, this >>tells why you can't access Harry's Old Engine for the time being. >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: Re: Harry's Site >>Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:42 -0400 >>From: Harry >>To: Judge Tommy Turner >>References: <482C9584.4090101 at scrtc.com> >> >> >> >>Please forward: >> >>At least it's not our server that's in trouble, but we cannot get through >>to >>the web. A major datacenter outage due to a transformer fire in the power >>distribution center. The fire department demanded that the generators be >>shut down. All servers are OK and all switches and routers are OK. Working >>on it. >> >>-- Harry >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. >>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 >>12:25 PM >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu May 1 11:11:34 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:11:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no dimensions. thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby?how do you know when you?re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 12:45:18 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:45:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Easier to just buy a reproduction battery can from Gale Rhoton in California. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:12 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no dimensions. thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid =5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Thu May 1 14:59:29 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:59:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:45 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Easier to just buy a reproduction battery can from Gale Rhoton in California. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:12 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no dimensions. thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid =5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 15:09:00 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:09:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy, I haven't heard anything about that. I didn't go to Tulare this year so I didn't see Gale. I normally setup at Tulare next to him. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:59 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 15:13:48 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:13:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something I hadn't seen before. The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? You can see a picture here: http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Thu May 1 15:29:13 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:29:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> I might have missed him ,but didn't see him there. Bigger this year than last even with fuel @ $4.25 Good luck on your California gold search ! Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:09 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Jimmy, I haven't heard anything about that. I didn't go to Tulare this year so I didn't see Gale. I normally setup at Tulare next to him. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:59 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kosh at ncweb.com Thu May 1 15:32:17 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 18:32:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.a d.adp.com> References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> Got: You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page and try again. * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation ??? Dave At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something >I hadn't seen before. > >The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was >converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that >were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first >conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > >Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > >You can see a picture here: > >http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > >George > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 1 15:41:55 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:41:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFAAD2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Then just go to: http://www.atis.net/forums/ George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Merchant Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:32 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine conversion Got: You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page and try again. * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation ??? Dave At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something >I hadn't seen before. > >The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was >converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that >were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first >conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > >Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > >You can see a picture here: > >http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > >George > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu May 1 16:03:47 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:03:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20080501183146.03637c48@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <01d101c8abdf$9dfa9180$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> I got that too. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Merchant" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine conversion > Got: > > You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. > This could be due to one of several reasons: > * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page > and try again. > * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you > trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some > other privileged system? > * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your > account, or it may be awaiting activation > ??? > > Dave > > At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >>This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something >>I hadn't seen before. >> >>The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was >>converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that >>were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first >>conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. >> >>Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? >> >>You can see a picture here: >> >>http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 >> >>George >> >> >>This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >>If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >>from your system. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > nesys_com at ameritech.net > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Thu May 1 17:09:52 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:09:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion Message-ID: <20080501.201228.512.0.jlb94@juno.com> I got this message also - Logged out - - - Guess it wasn't that important. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." On Thu, 01 May 2008 18:32:17 -0400 Dave Merchant writes: > Got: > > You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this > page. > This could be due to one of several reasons: > * You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this > page > and try again. > * You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. > Are you > trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features > or some > other privileged system? > * If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled > your > account, or it may be awaiting activation > ??? > > Dave > > At 06:13 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote: > >This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw > something > >I hadn't seen before. > > > >The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was > >converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines > that > >were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the > first > >conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > > > >Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > > > >You can see a picture here: > > > >http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > > > >George > > > > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > the > >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. > >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > > >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please > >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments > >from your system. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > > nesys_com at ameritech.net > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu May 1 17:33:05 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:33:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help References: <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <001501c8abec$16bd10a0$726f4b47@mikecomp> Just give that incomplete engine to your brother, problem solved!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan > > Jim O'Hagan > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:45 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > > Easier to just buy a reproduction battery can from Gale Rhoton in > California. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Royster > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:12 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help > > >> Does anyone have the correct dimensions for the stickney battery can.? > I'm in the process of trying to make one and I have pics but no > dimensions. thanks Steve > _________________________________________________________________ > Back to work after baby-how do you know when you're ready? > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid > =5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From astfgl at iamnota.org Thu May 1 19:13:01 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:13:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> You have to be a member of the forum to see attachments there. Best, George wrote: > This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something > I hadn't seen before. > > The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was > converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that > were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first > conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > > Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > > You can see a picture here: > > http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From george at irontrader.com Thu May 1 19:53:18 2008 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:53:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <000001c8abff$ad2c7040$078550c0$@com> Go straight to www.atis.net/forums rather than the link I first posted. You should be able to view stuff without having to register. You need to register to post, but that's up to you. I still support the forums that Spencer announced in December. It is pretty slow there, but then the SEL email list has certainly slowed down from what it was in the past. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Glen Harris Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:13 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine conversion You have to be a member of the forum to see attachments there. Best, George wrote: > This past weekend I was at a small local one day show and saw something > I hadn't seen before. > > The was a 3hp F-M Z (pretty sure that was what it was) which was > converted to a steam engine. I know of quite a few steam engines that > were converted into internal combustion engines, but this is the first > conversion in the opposite direction that I've seen. > > Have other people seen any of these reverse conversions? > > You can see a picture here: > > http://www.atis.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54 > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu May 1 22:29:07 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:29:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine conversion In-Reply-To: <000001c8abff$ad2c7040$078550c0$@com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA4B8@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501215934.11A654C8C67@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9FD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><481A78AD.5070409@iamnota.org> <000001c8abff$ad2c7040$078550c0$@com> Message-ID: Sorry George you still have to be registered to access attachment. Kerry > Go straight to www.atis.net/forums rather than the link I first posted. > > You should be able to view stuff without having to register. You need to > register to post, but that's up to you. > From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 03:33:38 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:33:38 EDT Subject: [SEL] New toy Message-ID: In a message dated 4/30/2008 10:36:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, randmingold at hotkey.net.au writes: Over here, the attendance at shows is dropping. Both by the public and exhibitors. Soon enough we will be back to the days of a few playing together in small local groups. Reg, I think you are right on your observations. I have seen the attendance falling at shows too. Went to our first show of the spring last Saturday and noticed the exhibitors and lookers were considerably down. The large increase in gas prices is certainly going to be a deterrant. Also, I believe that the peak has been reached for the shows in general. The internet certainly helped the movement upwards for many years, but is headed down. That can be readily seen from the much shortened SEL list. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 04:04:18 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:04:18 EDT Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal Message-ID: The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very small (.080) tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair of steel plates to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the steel plates. Both pins game out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri May 2 07:02:17 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <862002.87666.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nice non-standard use of tools. Thanks for sharing. Alan --- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very small (.080) > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair of steel plates > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the steel plates. Both pins game > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri May 2 09:23:30 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:23:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: <862002.87666.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080502162336.86E4140546A@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Thanks, Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bowen Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:02 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] tapered pin removal Nice non-standard use of tools. Thanks for sharing. Alan --- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very small (.080) > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair of steel plates > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the steel plates. Both pins game > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri May 2 09:57:39 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:57:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: does anyone have an e-mail address or phonefor Gale? Thanks Steve> From: jdohagan at comcast.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:29:13 -0700> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > I might have missed him ,but didn't see him there. Bigger this year than> last even with fuel @ $4.25 Good luck on your California gold search !> Jimmy> > Jim O'Hagan> -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:09 PM> To: The SEL email discussion list> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > Jimmy,> > I haven't heard anything about that. I didn't go to Tulare this year so> I didn't see Gale. I normally setup at Tulare next to him.> > George> > -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim> O'Hagan> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:59 PM> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > Hi George, Did Gale loose his engine trailer to a fire? Cya, Jimmy> O'Hagan> > Jim O'Hagan> > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential.> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized> representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have> received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail> and delete the message and any attachments from your system.> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008 From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 10:15:32 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:15:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFB24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Doing a Google search I came up with this: Gale Rhoton 939 Leonardo Way Hayward, CA 94541 1-510-782-6959 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:58 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help does anyone have an e-mail address or phonefor Gale? Thanks Steve> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kosh at ncweb.com Fri May 2 11:20:53 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 14:20:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: <862002.87666.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. Dave Merchant At 10:02 AM 5/2/2008, you wrote: >Nice non-standard use of tools. >Thanks for sharing. >Alan > > >--- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very > small (.080) > > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair > of steel plates > > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the > steel plates. Both pins game > > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > > > Tom Schmutz > > Concord, Va. > > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Be a better friend, newshound, and >know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it >now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 11:38:03 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:38:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri May 2 13:31:40 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 16:31:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stickney help In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFB24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFA9D2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><20080501222916.D402B40544C@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906CFB24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Thanks George, I'll give hima call. Steve> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:15:32 -0500> From: George_Best at adp.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > Doing a Google search I came up with this:> > Gale Rhoton 939 Leonardo Way Hayward, CA 94541 1-510-782-6959> > -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve> Royster> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:58 AM> To: The SEL email discussion list> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stickney help> > > does anyone have an e-mail address or phonefor Gale? Thanks Steve> > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_mobile_052008 From shop at cccomm.net Fri May 2 13:33:37 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:33:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> How much clearance is there? If you're only after a few thousands I'd consider milling the cap. It would probably work long enough to out live us........... Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri May 2 13:42:59 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:42:59 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080502204303.A1B1D30285B@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> George Are the bronze bearings one or two piece? Is the crank still round? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 13:46:02 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:46:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D2A24E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Dave, I don't know yet. This is on a vertical 1 cylinder engine and I haven't split the crankcase yet to have better access to the crank journal. You're right that possibly milling the rod cap would tighten it up enough. It would also be the quickest fix although some purist may not approve of this method. I need to split the crankcase so I am no longer working through hand holes so I can get better measurements. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Ernst Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:34 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing How much clearance is there? If you're only after a few thousands I'd consider milling the cap. It would probably work long enough to out live us........... Dave This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 2 13:50:20 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:50:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <20080502204303.A1B1D30285B@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <20080502204303.A1B1D30285B@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D2A268@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy, It has a two piece bearing. If the journal is not round, then having it built up is about the only option as the other fixes would only lessen the amount of slop but never resolve the problem. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing George Are the bronze bearings one or two piece? Is the crank still round? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri May 2 14:23:16 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 14:23:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D2A268@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20080502214534.1E62C444857@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Yes Sir! Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing Jimmy, It has a two piece bearing. If the journal is not round, then having it built up is about the only option as the other fixes would only lessen the amount of slop but never resolve the problem. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Bronze main bearing George Are the bronze bearings one or two piece? Is the crank still round? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main bearing and there are no shims to remove. 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be used. 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as it is something I can probably do. Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 15:30:59 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:30:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal Message-ID: In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:27:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, kosh at ncweb.com writes: Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. Dave, Thought about that, but would have had to replace the locking screw with a long screw with a slide hammer on it. You just could not pull, but had to have some type of slide hammer effect. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From Germoamer at aol.com Fri May 2 15:38:58 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:38:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing Message-ID: George, I recently told someone how I fixed my Famous rod with bronze bearings a few years ago. The journal is round, but the bearings oval from use, with most of the wear along the length of the rod. Machined the bearing cap edges where they meet until the bearings were a nice fit to the journal. Perpendicular to the rod may still be slightly loose, but will last a long time for you and the shows. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Fri May 2 19:10:51 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 10:10:51 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Bronze main bearing In-Reply-To: <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D29F29@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <01f001c8ac93$cd2149e0$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <481BC9AB.50303@optusnet.com.au> === There is a technique known as "upsetting", used to be well known and practised by the gentlemen of the Blacksmithing Guild. Basically, it consists of rendering a metal object thicker by pressing or hitting it on one end. I have used this in extremis to make a bush "fatter" (albeit slightly shorter) to reduce its internal diameter slightly. If the shortening is critical, shims may be applied. Technique requires turning up a couple of mandrels and a sleeve to keep the whole plot in alignment, and giving it a calibrated bash on the sleeve on one end, against a shoulder on the inner mandrel. Sounds brutal, and is probably best suited to Land Rovers and BSAs. JW? === > What is the best way to fix a situation where you have a bronze main > bearing and there are no shims to remove. > > 1. Have a new set of bronze bearing shells made. > 2. Have the crank journal built up so the old bearing shells can be > used. > 3. Have a layer of Babbitt added to the bearing shells. > > I'm leaning towards adding a layer of Babbitt to the existing shells as > it is something I can probably do. > > Having the crank journal built up would be probably the best way to go > but I have no idea how expensive it is to have done. > > George From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri May 2 20:28:10 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 20:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080502141643.04597508@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <804842.1179.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Dave, Look at the picture again. 8>)) Looks to me like there are Vise Grips pliers right there. Just how would Tom bolt those plates to the Vise Grips and have room for what I will call his shock rod? My guess is Tom gave the Vise Grips a thought too. Then came up with a better plan. 8>)) Alan --- Dave Merchant wrote: > Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. > > Dave Merchant > > > At 10:02 AM 5/2/2008, you wrote: > >Nice non-standard use of tools. > >Thanks for sharing. > >Alan > > > > > >--- Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > > > The Famous fuel butterfly is held on to the shaft with two very > > small (.080) > > > tapered pins. There is no access from the other side of the pins to knock > > > them out, so they must be pulled. I solved this by clamping a pair of > > > lineman's pliers to the pins using the c-clamp. I then bolted a pair > > of steel plates > > > to the end if the pliers. I slid a steel bar thru the plier handles, > > > grabbed with both hands and gave a quick wrap to the > > steel plates. Both pins game > > > out quickly! Nice when a simple plan comes together and nothing broken! > > > > > > Photos at _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg_ > > > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/pins.jpg) > > > > > > Tom Schmutz > > > Concord, Va. > > > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > > family > > > favorites at AOL Food. > > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SEL mailing list > > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Be a better friend, newshound, and > >know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > >now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > nesys_com at ameritech.net > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jmackess at twcny.rr.com Sat May 3 07:06:40 2008 From: jmackess at twcny.rr.com (James Mackessy) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal References: Message-ID: <001301c8ad26$eb9b38c0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> Tom; I applaud your ingenuity on coming up with a solution to a problem that is usually a real PITA. As to the idea of Vice Grips, we use them at work to pull blade sections from steel rule dies, and we modify them to be slide hammer equippped. We found that replacing the lock screw didn't work very well, so we drill a hole in the upper handle in back of where the jaw attaches and put a shoulder bolt through it and a yoke we make by bending a piece of 1/2" x 1/8" steel into a U-shape about 8" long. We put a piece of 5/8" round stock in the bottom of the U and weld it in, and drill and tap a hole for a 1/4" threaded rod. Any piece of round stock with a 9/32" hole drilled through it works for a slide, depending on the weight we need, and a locknut and washer finishes it off. It's one of those tools you don't use often, but when you need it, nothing else will do, (well, almost nothing else, as we've seen here!). Thanks for sharing! Jim Mackessy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] tapered pin removal > > In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:27:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, kosh at ncweb.com > writes: > > Looks like a good application for Vise Grips. > > > > Dave, > > Thought about that, but would have had to replace the locking screw with a > long screw with a slide hammer on it. You just could not pull, but had to have > some type of slide hammer effect. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ltl85 at hotmail.com Sat May 3 14:34:55 2008 From: ltl85 at hotmail.com (Siz allison) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:34:55 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spark Dynamo Message-ID: Hello, wanted Carlisle and Finch spark dynamo,complete or parts or similar unit for my White Gasoline Engine, Thanks Siz _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat May 3 20:29:21 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 23:29:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> Here is some info regarding the auction in Sugar Grove (Boone) NC (Triplett Auction) It was a great auction and Bill was very pleased. The crowd was small but everyone seemed to be a buyer. The largest bid number I saw was in the 60's. Possibly fuel prices have curtailed the crowds a bit. The sale started very slow. Oilers were the first items on the block. Bill's collection of brass was one of the best. There were bargains at the beginning, #3 and #4 Lunk. old style Paragons (in great condition) bringing $85 to $100. But after a few minutes the crowd warmed up and things began to bring somewhat retail prices. Here is just a "smattering" of some of the brass that sold (as I explained, the prices were a bit all over the board due to the slow start) A 6.75% sales tax was added to the final price at checkout (the prices I've quoted don't include the sales tax). There was no buyer's premium: Paragon Old Style (nice oilers) #4 thru #6 sizes $85 - $120 each #2 Mars (nice) $475 #3 Mars (nice) $500 Full Set of Lunk. Paragon oilers (Including the #8), most in nice condition, all oilers were the early style with the inverted hex on the base, all were mounted on a board: $1100 (a very good buy I think) Full set of Lunk Sentinels (including #8), later style Setinels, very nice condition, mounted on board: $1700 #2 Lunk Ruby, nice condition: $1000 #2 Lunk Ruby, not quite as good as above: $500 Full set of Lunk. Paragons (including #8) old style but with regular hex bottom, mounted on board: $1700 Lonergan wine glass oilers, various styles and sizes (most were smaller), all with embossed glasses, some with flip up top, some with pillar top: $275 to $500 As for the engines, you can view them at the auction website: http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html along with a pretty good description of each engine. The prices show are what the buyer had to pay the cashier as there was a 6.75% sales tax on each engine (I left off the odd cents and there was no buyer's premium): 4 HP Geiser - $53,375 6 HP Geiser - $43,767 7 HP Foos - $10,675 8 HP Westinghouse - $7,205 10 HP Otto - $16,012 12 HP FM Type N - $29,356 6 HP Mogul - $6,618 15 HP Titan - $24,552 4 1/2 HP GSM - $3,202 4 1/2 HP Gearless Olds - $21,350 12 HP Olds (Hopper Cooled) - $9,607 12 HP Olds (Tank Cooled) - $13,877 2 HP Domestic - $1,601 15 HP Reid - $320 20 HP Oil City Boiler Works - $4,163 12 HP Reid - $2,562 25 HP Superior Industrial - $19,748 20 HP Superior - $3,202 20 HP Evans - $3,202 20 HP Olin/Titusville - $3,736 20 HP Olin/Titusville - $3,202 20 HP Simplex - $4,803 20 HP Reid - $1,547 ?HP Pattin Bros - $1,227 One tidbit of info I'll add here. The 12 HP FM Type N is an engine I used to own. I purchased the engine in Beattyville, KY in 1976 and it had been rigged up to run an oil well. I paid $35 for it. Looks like inflation got hold of it! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From Germoamer at aol.com Sun May 4 05:38:19 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 08:38:19 EDT Subject: [SEL] tapered pin removal Message-ID: In a message dated 5/2/2008 11:36:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes: My guess is Tom gave the Vise Grips a thought too. Then came up with a better plan. Alan, You got that right. The problem I saw with replacing the adjusting screw was that it pulled off center too. Jim's method of attaching a yoke to the vice grips worked out much better like he said. If I had taken a much wider angle picture you would have seen much other junk lying on top of the work bench too! Floors! Walls! Etc! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun May 4 07:27:00 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:27:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> Tommy, The one thing missing from your EXCELLENT report is a description of the engines that followed YOU home!! See ya, Arnie Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > Here is some info regarding the auction in Sugar Grove (Boone) NC > (Triplett Auction) > > As for the engines, you can view them at the auction website: > http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html From Germoamer at aol.com Sun May 4 08:35:18 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:35:18 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: 2 HP Domestic - $1,601 Tommy, The Domestic price seems to be a good buy if it was in running condition, and no repairs. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 4 09:36:17 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 12:36:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481DE601.3000906@scrtc.com> Yes, I thought it was a good buy. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, >lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: > >2 HP Domestic - $1,601 > > > >Tommy, > >The Domestic price seems to be a good buy if it was in running condition, >and no repairs. > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > >**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family >favorites at AOL Food. >(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 4 09:40:09 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 12:40:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> Arnie, I purchased the Westinghouse, but was buying it for a friend who wanted it. I brought home some brass items and a mag. I would have loved to have the 4 HP Geiser. I've got its twin except mine is the old style and the one at the auction was the new style. It would have been neat to have the pair. Based on what they brought, I wished I still had all the Geiser's that I've owed through the years. I know of 12 that I've had and I might be leaving one off. I've still got 6 here so I guess that's enough! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: >Tommy, > >The one thing missing from your EXCELLENT report is a description of the engines >that followed YOU home!! > >See ya, Arnie > >Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > > > >>Here is some info regarding the auction in Sugar Grove (Boone) NC >>(Triplett Auction) >> >>As for the engines, you can view them at the auction website: >>http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun May 4 10:16:03 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:16:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> Message-ID: On May 4, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I know of 12 that > I've had and I might be leaving one off. I've still got 6 here so I > guess that's enough! Hey Tommy, It's no wonder the going rate on Geisers is through the roof. You've cornered the market and are driving the prices up! Very shrewd, my friend. Rob P.S. Do you also run oil and energy companies? From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 4 11:16:38 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 14:16:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results In-Reply-To: References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <1209911220.481dc7b4560d7@webmail.city-net.com> <481DE6E9.8050105@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <481DFD86.1050707@scrtc.com> Hey Rob, I bought 2 of them for less than $500 each so I couldn't say no to them! Evidently the largest Geiser dealer was located in Nashville, TN. I've gotten 5 out of TN with sizes ranging from 2 HP (that I still have) to 16 HP (that I traded off). I've got a 4 HP that came from about 15 miles from my home. The gent gave it to me but thinking it was a 6 HP Z Fairbanks Morse (a hard lesson learned as I never went and looked at the engine), I gave him the name of some guys who were new to collecting as I was sure they would really love to have it. After they brought it home (and I spent a day crying after I saw it), I had to begin trying to trade them out of it. Its a dandy engine, original pin stripes, etc. Sadly, I traded off what was probably the best original portable there is. Sam Harmon has it now and if anyone has been to his place and seen the dandy 6 HP portable, that used to be in my barn (and wished it still was!). Tommy Turner > > >Hey Tommy, >It's no wonder the going rate on Geisers is through the roof. You've >cornered the market and are driving the prices up! Very shrewd, my >friend. > >Rob > >P.S. >Do you also run oil and energy companies? > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Sun May 4 18:00:17 2008 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:00:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From george at irontrader.com Sun May 4 19:18:20 2008 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From george at irontrader.com Sun May 4 19:22:53 2008 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:22:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae4b$652f2d70$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <000001c8ae56$ed14e850$c73eb8f0$@com> Allis-Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nox2743 at blackfoot.net Sun May 4 19:48:15 2008 From: nox2743 at blackfoot.net (Daybreak Farms) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:48:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> Message-ID: Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. PK -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM From oldironnut at alltel.net Mon May 5 04:51:50 2008 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 07:51:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> Howdy all, Because of all of the work building the house, we have not been able to play engines since Portland 2006! Finally yesterday we latched onto the Famous with my granddad's 1948 SC Case tractor and drug her out of the corner of the barn so we could then roll her out to do a little work. After a little tlc to get her running again we started sawing on our huge pile of scrap wood. The goal was to cut the scrap wood up into lengths that would work as kindling for starting our winter fireplace fires. The Famous ran beautifully and were were able to easily saw a bunch of the scrap into great kindling. I do have a question on how to fix a little problem. The clutch pulley on the Famous is a regulation IHC clutch pulley with wooden blocks responsible for engaging the pulley. On some of the bigger or harder chunks of wood the clutch pulley would "slip" a little and even though the engine speed was not phased the blade would slow down a bit. Is there anything that we can treat the clutch wood with to make it more "sticky?" See ya', Mike From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 5 05:05:56 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:05:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> Message-ID: <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> Mike, Check to see if the area where the wooden shoes grip is "slick" and shiny. If so, take some 80 grit sandpaper and score this area good. Also, adjust the grip on the shoes to make sure they fit tight. Make sure that all are gripping to about the same degree. My guess is your engine has been in a dry shed and the wood has shrunk a bit allowing them not to grip to the same degree they did before. If this is the case, a good wet down of the shoe wood might fix the problem. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Howdy all, > >Because of all of the work building the house, we have not been able to >play engines since Portland 2006! Finally yesterday we latched onto the >Famous with my granddad's 1948 SC Case tractor and drug her out of the >corner of the barn so we could then roll her out to do a little work. >After a little tlc to get her running again we started sawing on our >huge pile of scrap wood. The goal was to cut the scrap wood up into >lengths that would work as kindling for starting our winter fireplace >fires. The Famous ran beautifully and were were able to easily saw a >bunch of the scrap into great kindling. > >I do have a question on how to fix a little problem. The clutch pulley >on the Famous is a regulation IHC clutch pulley with wooden blocks >responsible for engaging the pulley. On some of the bigger or harder >chunks of wood the clutch pulley would "slip" a little and even though >the engine speed was not phased the blade would slow down a bit. Is >there anything that we can treat the clutch wood with to make it more >"sticky?" > >See ya', >Mike >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From gastzt at aol.com Mon May 5 08:03:14 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:03:14 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: nice list work! Thanks so much! Stan, Pleasanton, Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From curt at rustyiron.com Mon May 5 09:48:19 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> Message-ID: <54651.168.215.206.73.1210006099.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Mike, Sounds like a real day of fun! Now we need to get you to Cotton Ginning Days and set up up sawing wood with the rest of us! Have you tried simply making an adjustment to the shoes, making the pressure when engaged tighter? That's usually all it takes. Curt > Howdy all, > > Because of all of the work building the house, we have not been able to > play engines since Portland 2006! Finally yesterday we latched onto the > Famous with my granddad's 1948 SC Case tractor and drug her out of the > corner of the barn so we could then roll her out to do a little work. > After a little tlc to get her running again we started sawing on our > huge pile of scrap wood. The goal was to cut the scrap wood up into > lengths that would work as kindling for starting our winter fireplace > fires. The Famous ran beautifully and were were able to easily saw a > bunch of the scrap into great kindling. > > I do have a question on how to fix a little problem. The clutch pulley > on the Famous is a regulation IHC clutch pulley with wooden blocks > responsible for engaging the pulley. On some of the bigger or harder > chunks of wood the clutch pulley would "slip" a little and even though > the engine speed was not phased the blade would slow down a bit. Is > there anything that we can treat the clutch wood with to make it more > "sticky?" > > See ya', > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Mon May 5 11:06:06 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:06:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Auction Results References: Message-ID: <001d01c8aeda$b0d67f50$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> We everywhere , man . Chuck , Mathis Tx > nice list work! Thanks so much! > Stan, Pleasanton, Tx > From gastzt at aol.com Mon May 5 11:11:13 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:11:13 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: AMEN to that--ha! Stan Pleasanton, Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From gastzt at aol.com Mon May 5 11:23:39 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:23:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Auction Results Message-ID: Chuck (in Mathis) seems like I met you down the line--- went to a show in Mathis area about 200 years ago---LOL, I brought an old ECONOMY engine---- Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From blcksmth at wcnet.org Mon May 5 16:25:36 2008 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:25:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> Message-ID: <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs some engine parts. It is not a diesel. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. PK -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at btes.tv Mon May 5 16:32:04 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:32:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <041441fe5cd98bb90679413e33f38484@btes.tv> Mike, try soaking the wood blocks with water with a little molasses mixed in, or soak them in water, coat with molasses and wipe off the excess after a while. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Mon May 5 17:49:40 2008 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:49:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Make 'em earn their keep! In-Reply-To: <041441fe5cd98bb90679413e33f38484@btes.tv> References: <481D2D91.60000@scrtc.com> <481EF4D6.8010205@alltel.net> <481EF824.30101@scrtc.com> <041441fe5cd98bb90679413e33f38484@btes.tv> Message-ID: <84B251EA-9F75-499E-9C44-27CF9429BA4A@rustyiron.com> what about applying some raw linseed oil to the wood? it would feed the wood from drying out and [as anyone know who's applied raw LO by mistake] would have a tacky outside to provide gription (technical term) on the metal surface ( also like Tommy's suggestion of roughing up the surface to remove any surface glaze) ********** Kelley Garcia La habra Kalifornia On May 5, 2008, at 4:32 PM, John Culp wrote: > Mike, try soaking the wood blocks with water with a little molasses > mixed in, or soak them in water, coat with molasses and wipe off the > excess after a while. > > John Culp > Bristol, Tennessee, USA > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue May 6 07:22:05 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:22:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906D8EFCC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Bob, Could be we're all talking about different Buda's. You wrote Budda and I assumed you meant Buda. So it is very likely that the Budda Earth Drill company has no connection at all to Buda other than having a similar name. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:26 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs some engine parts. It is not a diesel. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. PK -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, but at the moment I can't name any. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] OT tractors Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about Budda gas tractors? Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue May 6 08:42:44 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:42:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com> <002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> Hi Bob, Isn't the Buda Earth Drill an add-on device to any tractor? see http://hydrogenguy.com/machines.htm where one is for sale. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Willman" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs > some engine parts. It is not a diesel. > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 > cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also > the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. > PK > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > > As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. > > I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, > but at the moment I can't name any. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] OT tractors > > Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about > Budda gas tractors? > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 > 11:22 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Tue May 6 11:55:05 2008 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:55:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com><002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: <000601c8afaa$b53a0a00$3464a8c0@Eagle> It is quite possible - I have not seen the machine. We were at a blacksmith get-together over the weekend and he was telling me about the earth drill and needed some parts for the engine. It may be on a Buda gas tractor. He said that he could find info on Buda diesels but nothing on the gasoline version. I offered to inquire here to see if I could find any leads to information. He did say he thought it was used to drill holes for utility poles. Thanks. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:43 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors Hi Bob, Isn't the Buda Earth Drill an add-on device to any tractor? see http://hydrogenguy.com/machines.htm where one is for sale. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Willman" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs > some engine parts. It is not a diesel. > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak Farms > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 > cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. Also > the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info there. > PK > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > > As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. > > I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, > but at the moment I can't name any. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] OT tractors > > Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about > Budda gas tractors? > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 > 11:22 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 6 13:04:11 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:04:11 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Cat 1Y73 engine and Dynamometer Message-ID: <6f6025160805061304t2594b73ex3327e62b8d707b05@mail.gmail.com> We've been beavering away for the past few weeks, getting the Cat trolley ready and mounting the engine and dyno onto it. Mostly finished today, we sail for Nuenen on Friday am. Hope to get the Onan radiator flushed through Thursday, then that will come as well. General thread of the job here: http://www.stationaryengine.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4482 Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Tue May 6 13:04:32 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:04:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 Message-ID: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi guys, Just finished loading the camper van and trailer for nuenen, we shall be setting off at sparrow fart am on thursday to head for the ferry crossing that night. We should arrive on site sometime on friday, if you are going to the show drop by and say hello as it is always good to put a face to a name. We should be easily found as there will be a blue shelter with the SCOTTISH flag flyiong above it. See ya , Craig in Sunny Scotland From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 6 13:39:30 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:39:30 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/6 craig morrison : > Hi guys, > Just finished loading the camper van and trailer for nuenen, we shall be setting off at sparrow fart am on thursday to head for the ferry crossing that night. We should arrive on site sometime on friday, if you are going to the show drop by and say hello as it is always good to put a face to a name. > We should be easily found as there will be a blue shelter with the SCOTTISH flag flyiong above it. > > See ya , Craig in Sunny Scotland We'll be crossing on Friday morning, should be there in the evening. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue May 6 14:46:59 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:46:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <1210110419.4820d1d3e443a@webmail.city-net.com> Another way to spot Craig's exhibit... Just look for a fat, bearded Yank hanging around drinking his beer and eating his crisps. 8-)) I fly out Friday, arriving in Amsterdam at sparrow fart Saturday morning. I'll see y'all sometime on Saturday. Rumor has it that Jim and Dolly should be dragging in sometime Saturday as well. Nev Beatty is also gonna be there at some point. SOMEONE needs to arrange for a couple of SEL Group photos at Neunen!! Add in Peter & Rita and it looks like we'll have a pretty good group!! See ya, Arnie Quoting craig morrison : > Just finished loading the camper van and trailer for nuenen, we > shall be setting off at sparrow fart am on thursday to head for the ferry > crossing that night. We should arrive on site sometime on friday, if you are > going to the show drop by and say hello as it is always good to put a face to > a name. > We should be easily found as there will be a blue shelter with the > SCOTTISH flag flying above it. > > See ya , Craig in Sunny Scotland From russell at ncable.com.au Tue May 6 15:45:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:45:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and then get some sites held. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From Peterwoodmore at aol.com Tue May 6 16:47:04 2008 From: Peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peterwoodmore at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:47:04 EDT Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? Message-ID: Hi Russell The Sydney club has 3 house boats booked so we can tie up right next to the rally ground Peter Woodmore. peterwoodmore at aol.com Skype name Woadmere From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Tue May 6 18:09:13 2008 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:09:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] national rally next year Message-ID: G'day Russell , sounds like a great idea, you can put me down for it,cheers Dave _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT From russell at ncable.com.au Tue May 6 22:53:25 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:53:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507155224.022cb8b0@ncable.com.au> Sounds like a great idea Peter, Did they slug you much for them?? Wouldn't be to bad shared buy a few people? Russell At 09:47 AM 7/05/2008, you wrote: >Hi Russell >The Sydney club has 3 house boats booked so we can tie up right next to the >rally ground > >Peter Woodmore. >peterwoodmore at aol.com >Skype name Woadmere >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed May 7 03:01:01 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:01:01 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT Message-ID: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the worst around our engine sites its worth sharing. Curt ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" To: "Curt Andree" , , "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" , "edward cronin" , "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" , "Don & Patsy Larson" , "Jim & Annette Larson" , "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" , "Steve and Jan Pf ile" < sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" , "Doris & Dale Weber" , "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" , "Linda Werntz" , "Kenneth J. Wientjes" Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" Subject: Fw: Bee Stings Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 Subject: Fw: Bee Stings This information may be something to remember, as this season will soon be here again... It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee and hornet while working in the garden. My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was Infected and needed an antibiotic. The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on the bite for 15 minutes'. That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she just wasn't allergic to the sting. Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny took the string out of the bite immediately. In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. She got stung again a few days later upon her back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. Wanted to share this marvelous information in case you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of pennies on hand . The doctor said that the copper in the penny counteracts the bite. It definitely works! Please remember and pass this information on to your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Wed May 7 03:46:04 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:46:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> Good one Curt, I'll have to look in the coin collection for a penny as we don't have any in the new currency Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:01 PM To: SEL Lists Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the worst around our engine sites its worth sharing. Curt ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" To: "Curt Andree" , , "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" , "edward cronin" , "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" , "Don & Patsy Larson" , "Jim & Annette Larson" , "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" , "Steve and Jan Pf ile" < sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" , "Doris & Dale Weber" , "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" , "Linda Werntz" , "Kenneth J. Wientjes" Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" Subject: Fw: Bee Stings Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 Subject: Fw: Bee Stings This information may be something to remember, as this season will soon be here again... It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee and hornet while working in the garden. My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was Infected and needed an antibiotic. The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on the bite for 15 minutes'. That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she just wasn't allergic to the sting. Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny took the string out of the bite immediately. In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. She got stung again a few days later upon her back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. Wanted to share this marvelous information in case you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of pennies on hand . The doctor said that the copper in the penny counteracts the bite. It definitely works! Please remember and pass this information on to your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 7 03:57:29 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:57:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> Message-ID: <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ Al Harris cameron grundy wrote: > Good one Curt, I'll have to look in the coin collection for a penny as we > don't have any in the new currency > Cam > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > cgandree at mchsi.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:01 PM > To: SEL Lists > Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > > Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later > summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the > worst > around our engine sites its worth sharing. > Curt > Subject: Fw: Bee Stings > > > This information may be something to remember, as > this season will soon be here > again... > > It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket > while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! > > A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee > and hornet while working in the garden. > > My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The > clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was > getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was > Infected and > needed an antibiotic. > > The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on > the bite for 15 minutes'. > > That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I > looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, > I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next > morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she > just wasn't allergic to the sting. > > Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, > twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here > I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. > > I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies > to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny > took the string out of the bite immediately. > > In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my > friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next > morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had > stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting > was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. > > She got stung again a few days later upon her > back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. > > Wanted to share this marvelous information in case > you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of > pennies on hand . > > The doctor said that the copper in the penny > counteracts the bite. It definitely works! > > Please remember and pass this information on to > your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed May 7 04:13:39 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:13:39 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C0 3BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <1676.218.214.134.238.1210158819.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> > Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later > summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the > worst > around our engine sites its worth sharing. > Curt > > Just run a Maytag. No chance any insects would live through the poison smoke clouds :). From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed May 7 04:18:46 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:18:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1695.218.214.134.238.1210159126.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Of course, you'd have to put a fence around them and turn them so their engines faced away from the bank and made sure you didn't move them during the rally... couldn't resist. I'm considering going along as a member of the public. The NHMA and I still don't get along so no chance of being an exhibitor. Might even make a Scout trip out of it... Regards Paul > Hi Russell > The Sydney club has 3 house boats booked so we can tie up right next to > the > rally ground > > Peter Woodmore. > peterwoodmore at aol.com > Skype name Woadmere > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Wed May 7 04:36:04 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 04:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C0 3BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <2463.165.206.180.192.1210160164.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> LOL, that poor fellow must live in a bee hive or be on their most wanted list or have the worst luck in the world. Never heard of anyone and their family getting stung so often in such a short time! We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the river and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for me......... and I'm mildly allergic. > Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later > summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the > worst > around our engine sites its worth sharing. > Curt > > > ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- > From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" > To: "Curt Andree" , , > "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" > , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" > , "edward cronin" , > "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" > , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee > & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , > "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" > , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan > Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted > and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" > , "Don & Patsy Larson" > , "Jim & Annette Larson" , > "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" > , "Steve and Jan Pf > ile" < > sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy > Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" > , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne > & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" > , "Doris & Dale Weber" , > "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" > , "Linda Werntz" , > "Kenneth J. Wientjes" > Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" > Subject: Fw: Bee Stings > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 > > > > > > Subject: Fw: Bee Stings > > > This information may be something to remember, as > this season will soon be here > again... > > It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket > while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! > > A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee > and hornet while working in the garden. > > My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The > clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was > getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was > Infected and > needed an antibiotic. > > The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on > the bite for 15 minutes'. > > That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I > looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, > I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next > morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she > just wasn't allergic to the sting. > > Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, > twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here > I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. > > I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies > to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny > took the string out of the bite immediately. > > In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my > friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next > morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had > stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting > was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. > > She got stung again a few days later upon her > back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. > > Wanted to share this marvelous information in case > you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of > pennies on hand . > > The doctor said that the copper in the penny > counteracts the bite. It definitely works! > > Please remember and pass this information on to > your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From b2 at chooka.net Wed May 7 05:14:15 2008 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:14:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <04b001c8b03b$defcaf00$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local> I sure wouldn't be above giving this a try, but Snopes' report isn't too encouraging: www.snopes.com/medical/homecure/beesting.asp At least the report was written with a sense of humor, it's entertaining to read. B? Bill Brueck Chatfield, Minnesota, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:01 AM To: SEL Lists Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT Sort of off topic but if this remedy works especially at some of the later summer and fall engine shows when the wasps & hornets seem to be at the worst around our engine sites its worth sharing. Curt ---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- From: "Robert & Caryl Horstmeier" To: "Curt Andree" , , "ted buisker" , "Marcia Busch" , "JEAN BUSJAHN" , "Chuck" , "edward cronin" , "Nancy Cronin" , "Jim Ditsworth" , "Doris and Jim Elliott" , "Dee & Hank Endress" , "Norma Graham" , "Marvin&Marie Horstmeier" , "Lee & Jean Horstmeier" , "Gary Kortemeier" , "Logan Kramer" , "Luke Kramer" , "Ted and Sally Kramer" , "Beverly Larson" , "Don & Patsy Larson" , "Jim & Annette Larson" , "Janet Lubbers" , "Chris and Tammy Newberry" , "Steve and Jan Pf ile" < sjpfile at aeroinc.net>, "Shirley Pieper" , "Judy Roskam" , "David and Ann Marie Schrader" , "Ken & Cindy Schrock" , "Wayne & Marilyn Toelke" , "Jim Turner" , "Doris & Dale Weber" , "Ron. & LaVonne Welling" , "Roger Wisdom" , "Linda Werntz" , "Kenneth J. Wientjes" Cc: "Kay & Jerry Klever" Subject: Fw: Bee Stings Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 Subject: Fw: Bee Stings This information may be something to remember, as this season will soon be here again... It might be wise to carry a penny in your pocket while working in the yard......... BEE STINGS ! A couple of weeks ago, I was stung by both a bee and hornet while working in the garden. My arm swelled up, so I went to the doctor. The clinic gave me cream and an antihistamine. The next day the swelling was getting progressively worse, so I went to my regular doctor. The arm was Infected and needed an antibiotic. The doctor told me - ' The next time you get stung, put a penny on the bite for 15 minutes'. That night, my niece was stung by two bees. I looked at the bite and it had already started to swell. So, I taped a penny to her arm for 15 minut es. The next morning, there was no sign of a bite We decided that she just wasn't allergic to the sting. Soon, I was gardening outside. I got stung again, twice by a hornet on my left hand. I thought, here I go again to the doctor for another antibiotic. I promptly got my money out and taped two pennies to my bites, then sat and sulked for 15 minutes. The penny took the string out of the bite immediately. In the meantime the hornets were attacking, and my friend was stung on the thumb. Again the penny. The next morning I could only see the spot where the hornet had stung me. No redness, no swelling. My friend's sting was the same; couldn't even tell where she had been stung. She got stung again a few days later upon her back---cutting the grass! And the penny worked once again. Wanted to share this marvelous information in case you experience the same problem. We need to keep a stock of pennies on hand . The doctor said that the copper in the penny counteracts the bite. It definitely works! Please remember and pass this information on to your friends, children, grandchildren, etc. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed May 7 05:17:25 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:17:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> HI Russell, I am thinking of going but have not committed myself as yet. I may have to get my act together and finish another engine or two to take along :) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and then get some sites held. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed May 7 06:18:52 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:18:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >> Al Harris We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the river and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for me......... and I'm mildly allergic. >> Bill D I dont mess with wasps I wont be bumping into , but. With theAfricanized bees , you will need at least 1 , and more often than not , 3 - 4 rolls of pennies . http://www.mangosteen-testimonials.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/aloe_top41.jpg This is the stuff we keep growing all over the place for just such an emergency . Los Curandero Chuck From obise at moscow.com Wed May 7 07:32:24 2008 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:32:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <200805071432.m47EWZnM031348@mail-gw.fsr.net> Wasps thrive where we live and I'm always getting stung by them. When that happens I apply a bit of liquid laundry bleach (sodium hypochlorite) to the wound with a cotton swab. It is very effective. The pain and swelling stops almost immediately. I have not used bleach on bee stings, but it is worth a try. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Balyeat Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:19 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >> Al Harris We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the river and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for me......... and I'm mildly allergic. >> Bill D From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed May 7 08:20:28 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:20:28 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4821C8BC.20202@optusnet.com.au> Al Harris wrote: > I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ > > Al Harris === I had the same problem, which I solved by just writing a cheque for one penny and sticking that on. JW? === From rotigel at alltel.net Wed May 7 08:33:21 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:33:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <200805071432.m47EWZnM031348@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200805071432.m47EWZnM031348@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: I've found that after being stun a Six Pack of Old Mill helps greatly. If the beer is consumed fast enough the sting(s) still hurt-- but you don't give a damn! Dave PS, The "penny thing" is something ONLY a FATG (or a democrat) would believe! -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 7, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > Wasps thrive where we live and I'm always getting stung by them. > When that > happens I apply a bit of liquid laundry bleach (sodium > hypochlorite) to the > wound with a cotton swab. It is very effective. The pain and > swelling > stops almost immediately. > > I have not used bleach on bee stings, but it is worth a try. > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck > Balyeat > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:19 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > >> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether >> to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >>> Al Harris > We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the > river > and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for > me......... and I'm mildly allergic. >>> Bill D > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 7 13:29:00 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 06:29:00 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> <002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <4822110C.60503@gmail.com> 3 - 4 rolls, shite. :-( Maybe copper pipe armlets and a Ned Kelly hat is what's needed. Chuck Balyeat wrote: > > I dont mess with wasps I wont be bumping into , but. > With theAfricanized bees , you will need at least 1 , > and more often than not , 3 - 4 rolls of pennies . > From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 7 13:30:01 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 06:30:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <4821C8BC.20202@optusnet.com.au> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com> <4821C8BC.20202@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <48221149.20901@gmail.com> LOL Jack Watson wrote: > Al Harris wrote: >> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether >> to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ >> >> Al Harris > === > I had the same problem, which I solved by just writing a cheque for one > penny and sticking that on. > JW? > === > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed May 7 15:52:49 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:52:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><000101c8b02f$8d0b7930$a7226b90$@com.au> <48218B19.4010107@gmail.com><002c01c8b044$e555f6a0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <4822110C.60503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003c01c8b095$13615260$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> >3 - 4 rolls, shite. :-( > Maybe copper pipe armlets and a Ned Kelly hat is what's needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not unusual to hear of someone with a 1000 stings . From russell at ncable.com.au Wed May 7 15:58:39 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 08:58:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> Patrick you have no excuses now as you have a permanent helper :-) Russell At 10:17 PM 7/05/2008, you wrote: >HI Russell, > I am thinking of going but have not committed myself as yet. I may >have to get my act together and finish another engine or two to take along >:) > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > >-----Original Message----- > > >G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National >Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally >feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk >would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun >with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The >sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe >build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. >Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, >stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also >organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel >or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and >then get some sites held. > >regards Russell >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Wed May 7 20:13:35 2008 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:13:35 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT tractors In-Reply-To: <000601c8afaa$b53a0a00$3464a8c0@Eagle> References: <000001c8ae56$49e712c0$ddb53840$@com><002701c8af07$580bf670$3464a8c0@Eagle> <000501c8af8f$d6aee770$25c20b52@intrepid> <000601c8afaa$b53a0a00$3464a8c0@Eagle> Message-ID: <48226FDF.1070001@xplornet.com> Hello Bob, Hope this helps. Did you try googling "Buda gas engines"? I get about 10000 hits but I can't search further as I don't know the model number of the engine. Also, some Cockshutt (Oliver) and Allis-Chalmers tractors used a 4 cylinder gas Buda engine. Bob Willman wrote: > blacksmith get-together over the weekend and he was telling me about the > earth drill and needed some parts for the engine. It may be on a Buda gas > tractor. He said that he could find info on Buda diesels but nothing on the > gasoline version. I offered to inquire here to see if I could find any leads > to information. He did say he thought it was used to drill holes for utility > poles. > > Thanks. > > > Bob Willman > Bowling Green, Ohio > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:43 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > Hi Bob, Isn't the Buda Earth Drill an add-on device to any tractor? > see http://hydrogenguy.com/machines.htm where one is for sale. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Willman" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors > > >> A friend has a Budda Earth Drill his trying to resurrect and needs >> some engine parts. It is not a diesel. >> >> >> Bob Willman >> Bowling Green, Ohio >> The Eagle's Anvil >> WB8NQW >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Daybreak > Farms >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:48 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors >> >> Allis Chalmers tractors used Buda engines. My WD 45 diesel has a Buda 6 >> cylinder engine. Try the guys at Yesterdays Tractors discussion group. > Also >> the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum. Google search. Lots of good info > there. >> PK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of George Best >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:18 PM >> To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT tractors >> >> >> As far as I know Buda was a engine company and didn't build tractors. >> >> I'm sure that some of their 4 cylinder engines were used in some tractors, >> but at the moment I can't name any. >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bob Willman >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:00 PM >> To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >> Subject: [SEL] OT tractors >> >> Does anyone on the list know where one can find information about >> Budda gas tractors? >> >> >> Bob Willman >> Bowling Green, Ohio >> The Eagle's Anvil >> WB8NQW >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 >> 11:22 AM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > -- -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 7 23:52:43 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:52:43 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/6 Listerdiesel : > We'll be crossing on Friday morning, should be there in the evening. > Going to take the loaded trailer out for a quick spin this morning, get a feel for how it handles and get some extra air in the tyres. Got it all strapped down tightly before we left the factory last evening, just got to load the van, sort the Onan speed out and that can go in the van as well. The trailer is probably near to max weight now so we'll load the other stuff, ramps etc in the van. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu May 8 02:59:48 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 09:59:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Bee Stings OT Message-ID: <050820080959.10788.4822CF14000892DE00002A24219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Yup Dave must agree the Old Mill program works for me too but as far as being a FATG or even low earth democrat it was well documented on national TV that you voted for Hillary in the primary..........you should of drank one more six pack before going to the polls. Curt ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bee Stings OT Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:28:39 +0000 > I've found that after being stun a Six Pack of Old Mill helps > greatly. If the beer is consumed fast enough the sting(s) still hurt-- > but you don't give a damn! > Dave > PS, The "penny thing" is something ONLY a FATG (or a democrat) would > believe! > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On May 7, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > > > Wasps thrive where we live and I'm always getting stung by them. > > When that > > happens I apply a bit of liquid laundry bleach (sodium > > hypochlorite) to the > > wound with a cotton swab. It is very effective. The pain and > > swelling > > stops almost immediately. > > > > I have not used bleach on bee stings, but it is worth a try. > > > > Orrin > > > > Orrin Iseminger > > Colton, Washington, USA > > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > > So many projects. So little time. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck > > Balyeat > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:19 AM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT > > > >> I've found a ha'penny and two farthings. I don't know whether > >> to tape them side by side or in a pile though. :-\ > >>> Al Harris > > We live around thousands of wasps, bees and hornets out here by the > > river > > and woods, only ever been stung once. Baking soda paste worked for > > me......... and I'm mildly allergic. > >>> Bill D > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 8 07:18:10 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:18:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O><6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906DFAC00@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Have a great time at Nuenen! The weather forecast for the show is sunny days with temperatures around 77f. Much nicer weather than we had last year. Should be a great show and am sorry I couldn't make it over there this year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 2008/5/6 Listerdiesel : > We'll be crossing on Friday morning, should be there in the evening. > Going to take the loaded trailer out for a quick spin this morning, get a feel for how it handles and get some extra air in the tyres. Got it all strapped down tightly before we left the factory last evening, just got to load the van, sort the Onan speed out and that can go in the van as well. The trailer is probably near to max weight now so we'll load the other stuff, ramps etc in the van. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 8 07:38:26 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:38:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906DFAC00@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805072352q2f08388rc33cd72f8f9961c@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906DFAC00@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805080738r57f2357m32dbeb38d9dc5856@mail.gmail.com> On 08/05/2008, Best, George wrote: > Have a great time at Nuenen! > > The weather forecast for the show is sunny days with temperatures around > 77f. Much nicer weather than we had last year. > > Should be a great show and am sorry I couldn't make it over there this > year. > > George > We'll bring back plenty of pictures :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 8 07:50:28 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:50:28 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805080750o2748b088m7e88231249cbcd4b@mail.gmail.com> On 17/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: The Onan has let the side down right at the last knockings, the fuel pump diaphragm has split and dumped a load of petrol into the sump. Philip (No 2 son) has dashed off to our injection repair guy in the place where we used to have our factory, in Luton, he may have a later diaphragm that we can use. If that is the case, then we'll load it up now and sort that out at Nuenen. If no diaphragm then we'll leave it behind. Had a run out with the van and trailer this morning, pumped up the tyres and filled the van ready for tomorrow. All handled fine, the weight is noticeable but only on pulling a\way from a stop, on the road it doesn't notice much at all, just the occasional 'nudge' from the trailer on bumps. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From curt at rustyiron.com Thu May 8 09:53:07 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Russell, Funny it is you telling Patrick he has no excuse for not making it to a big show. How many years have you been "going to make it to Portland someday"? With the tanked value of the US dollar it won't cost you more than a couple place setting at one of your nice catered weddings to come over the pond! You're all out of excuses so man up and buy tickets for you and Carmella and come join in what is shaping up to be a banner year at Portland. Besides Missy says she REALLY misses her drinking buddy! Ozzie, Ozzie, Ozzie. Curt Holland > Patrick you have no excuses now as you have a permanent helper :-) > Russell > > > At 10:17 PM 7/05/2008, you wrote: >>HI Russell, >> I am thinking of going but have not committed myself as yet. I >> may >>have to get my act together and finish another engine or two to take >> along >>:) >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >> >>G'day all, I have made some enquiries about camping at the National >>Rally in South Oz. The designated camping area is 3km from the rally >>feild. Just wanting to get a feel on whether or not you good folk >>would like an sel area?? I remember the Heyfeild rally was good fun >>with many sel guys all together. (I could'nt get to the last two) The >>sites are numbered/alocated so I recon it would be good to maybe >>build a list of everyone who wants to be in the same area. >>Entertainment is always great with a few interesting readings, >>stories of history and plenty of iced tea! I guess we could also >>organise an Sel compound also. If you could let me know via the sel >>or direct I could put a list together over the next month say and >>then get some sites held. >> >>regards Russell >>Russell Gilbert >>Sunny Sunraysia >>russell at ncable.com.au >>http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu May 8 10:05:21 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:05:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> G'day Russell, AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to translate Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous in your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number for sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to get in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting curt at rustyiron.com: > Russell, > Funny it is you telling Patrick he has no excuse for not making it to a > big show. How many years have you been "going to make it to Portland > someday"? > With the tanked value of the US dollar it won't cost you more than a > couple place setting at one of your nice catered weddings to come over the > pond! You're all out of excuses so man up and buy tickets for you and > Carmella and come join in what is shaping up to be a banner year at > Portland. Besides Missy says she REALLY misses her drinking buddy! Ozzie, > Ozzie, Ozzie. From russell at ncable.com.au Thu May 8 15:27:01 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 08:27:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080509082139.022d4d38@ncable.com.au> Don't worry fellas it's gonna happen soon enough. Actually got Carmel to go away with me to a rally a few weeks back. Mind you she did not see a lot of engines. Had a good time shopping how ever. BTW; last time I spoke to Reggie he still sounded rather English! don't you agree :-) cheers, Russell At 03:05 AM 9/05/2008, you wrote: >G'day Russell, > >AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to translate >Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous in >your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number for >sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to get >in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > >See ya, Arnie > >Quoting curt at rustyiron.com: > > > Russell, > > Funny it is you telling Patrick he has no excuse for not making it to a > > big show. How many years have you been "going to make it to Portland > > someday"? > > With the tanked value of the US dollar it won't cost you more than a > > couple place setting at one of your nice catered weddings to come over the > > pond! You're all out of excuses so man up and buy tickets for you and > > Carmella and come join in what is shaping up to be a banner year at > > Portland. Besides Missy says she REALLY misses her drinking buddy! Ozzie, > > Ozzie, Ozzie. > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu May 8 19:41:25 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 22:41:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Earning some $$$ coming to Coolspring Message-ID: <4823B9D5.4060507@scrtc.com> Is anyone coming to Coolspring and traveling near the Port Jervis, NY / Matamoras, PA area (just off I-84)? I might have an item that needs transporting and it would be a good way to earn some fuel $$$. Don't we all need some help with this now days! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 03:31:50 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 03:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Earning some $$$ coming to Coolspring In-Reply-To: <4823B9D5.4060507@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <356068.42470.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When is Coolsprings show this year? Ron Judge Tommy Turner wrote: Is anyone coming to Coolspring and traveling near the Port Jervis, NY / Matamoras, PA area (just off I-84)? I might have an item that needs transporting and it would be a good way to earn some fuel $$$. Don't we all need some help with this now days! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From pjp at steamengine.com.au Fri May 9 03:57:14 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:57:14 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even upside down on the planet. Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. Regards Paul > G'day Russell, > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > translate > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous > in > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number > for > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to > get > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri May 9 05:47:13 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:47:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Earning some $$$ coming to Coolspring References: <356068.42470.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c8b1d2$ce9997c0$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > When is Coolspring show this year? > Ron >>>>>>>>>>> And is it true , that the pink pistons ( or is it the pink pendulums?) always field a team of exhibitors ? From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 08:07:37 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings Message-ID: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. Thanks Ron Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Fri May 9 08:36:42 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:36:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5D073A9C-3476-4F34-AE4F-7480075851BF@rustyiron.com> On May 9, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org From f86sabre at kcweb.net Fri May 9 09:49:38 2008 From: f86sabre at kcweb.net (f86sabre at kcweb.net) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 11:49:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <655847.61800.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <482480A2.4090100@kcweb.net> It's June 19-21, per the Farm Collector Show Directory. Dan Bousman Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron > > > Ron > > http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 11:00:40 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <5D073A9C-3476-4F34-AE4F-7480075851BF@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <384335.93000.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks rob ron Rob Skinner wrote: On May 9, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Fri May 9 11:02:27 2008 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] CoolSprings In-Reply-To: <482480A2.4090100@kcweb.net> Message-ID: <71571.11503.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Dan Ron "f86sabre at kcweb.net" wrote: It's June 19-21, per the Farm Collector Show Directory. Dan Bousman Ron Frost wrote: > Would someone please tell me the dates for CoolSprings this year. > Thanks > Ron > > > Ron > > http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From russell at ncable.com.au Fri May 9 17:04:19 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:04:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine. com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> This national comming up is 400ks away from me, thats equals $100 juice each way, 2 sblabs of beer $80 and a few feeds, I own my swag so no cost there and I get to show of my lastest restoration. All for well under $500 I wouldn't miss it for quids. Russell At 08:57 PM 9/05/2008, you wrote: >Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even >upside down on the planet. > >Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from >Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation >will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a >ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An >SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the >nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some >accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. > >Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. > >Regards >Paul > > > G'day Russell, > > > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > > translate > > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous > > in > > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number > > for > > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to > > get > > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > > > See ya, Arnie > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From kimmell at verizon.net Thu May 8 20:34:55 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 22:34:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bee Stings OT In-Reply-To: <2463.165.206.180.192.1210160164.squirrel@www.antique-engin es.com> References: <050720081001.4662.48217DDD00002FFB00001236219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <2463.165.206.180.192.1210160164.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <0K0M00JNTW67I0M2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> I thought the same thing... in my 25 years I've been stung ONCE. -Tony At 06:36 AM 5/7/2008, you wrote: >LOL, that poor fellow must live in a bee hive or be on their most wanted >list or have the worst luck in the world. Never heard of anyone and their >family getting stung so often in such a short time! From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Sat May 10 05:36:51 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:36:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000001c8b29a$86157500$92405f00$@com.au> Hey Russell, I wish I could get there that, it's so far from here it would be six slabs and I would probably get locked up 3 or 4 times for dui. Cheers Cam. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:04 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] National next year who's going? This national comming up is 400ks away from me, thats equals $100 juice each way, 2 sblabs of beer $80 and a few feeds, I own my swag so no cost there and I get to show of my lastest restoration. All for well under $500 I wouldn't miss it for quids. Russell At 08:57 PM 9/05/2008, you wrote: >Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even >upside down on the planet. > >Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from >Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation >will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a >ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An >SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the >nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some >accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. > >Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. > >Regards >Paul > > > G'day Russell, > > > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > > translate > > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just ridiculous > > in > > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast number > > for > > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws to > > get > > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > > > See ya, Arnie > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat May 10 21:47:40 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:47:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: <20080510.214740.1624.5.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. Today my club; WAPA was invited to display at Cal Poly Pomona University. It was a tractor/car show to draw attention to their farm store. It was a beautiful day with a perfect spot to display under a giant walnut tree. Pictures at: http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CalPoly2008 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Sun May 11 02:45:04 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:45:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] NEW TOY (Blackstone) Message-ID: <001501c8b34b$b1e31eb0$a6336c3a@fred> Our latest new toy arrived last week, it`s a 1906 single flywheel 6 1/2 HP. Blackstone with an atmospheric air inlet valve, an older restoration that has had a smaller diameter flywheel fitted at some time. If any OZ. members know where we can get the right size flywheel please contact us, an 8Hp Blackstone flywheel will fit on. size- 45" dia.x 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" Bore. or 48" x 4 1/2" x2 1/2"Bore. please contact David if you know anyone who can help. latest photos of the engine on web site below, in 2008 folder. Many thanks. David Watts (03) 87616332 damewatt at bigpond.com Brian Watts (03) 97266147 briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun May 11 04:36:53 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:36:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Not coming to US this year Message-ID: <002801c8b35b$4fc908b0$0200a8c0@altech> Hi all I will not be coming to Portland and Baraboo this year mainly due to work commitments and the costs involved. Hopefully in a couple of years things will be different. Regards Peter, Oz From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 07:10:03 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:10:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <20080510.214740.1624.5.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. Got any suggestions? Take care - Elden BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ From Germoamer at aol.com Sun May 11 06:56:09 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:56:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: In a message dated 5/11/2008 12:57:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: It was a beautiful day with a perfect spot to display under a giant walnut tree. Ron, Nice show. I love my 5 and 7 Economy's too! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From driggars at wildblue.net Sun May 11 07:48:50 2008 From: driggars at wildblue.net (Clint D) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:48:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48270752.9080207@wildblue.net> I can't find the link I had to a seller, but there is a seller on Ebay that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, search for model engine fly wheels Clint Elden DuRand wrote: > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > Got any suggestions? > > Take care - Elden > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From gastzt at aol.com Sun May 11 08:01:30 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:01:30 EDT Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: Ron I have an old 5hp Economy--- ain't crankned it up in 5 years---guess better drag it back out of storage (just moved here it all in storage--dang) trying to finish an old Stover 8hp--- need more TIME darn Stan, Pleasanton Tx **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From gastzt at aol.com Sun May 11 08:02:11 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:02:11 EDT Subject: [SEL] Show today Message-ID: oops---I meant TOM-- Stan **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 10:00:19 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:00:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <48270752.9080207@wildblue.net> Message-ID: Clint: Thanks, I'll go over there and have a looksee. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Clint D > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 09:49 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > I can't find the link I had to a seller, but > there is a seller on Ebay > that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, > search for model engine > fly wheels > Clint > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and > am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels > about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they > are finished and if necessary, I can bush them > for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > > > Got any suggestions? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ From obise at moscow.com Sun May 11 09:09:44 2008 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:09:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200805111610.m4BG9wsa044611@mail-gw.fsr.net> Gary Martin has a big selection of flywheels, but I don't recall anything in his lineup that will clean up to 2?" width. http://www.martinmodel.com/ http://www.martinmodel.com/products_services/flywheels/index.htm Good luck! Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden DuRand Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:10 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. Got any suggestions? Take care - Elden BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 10:53:18 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:53:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <200805111610.m4BG9wsa044611@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: Orrin: I checked his site just now. There-s one wheel that might work. Thanks! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Orrin B > Iseminger > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:10 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Gary Martin has a big selection of flywheels, but > I don't recall anything in > his lineup that will clean up to 2?" width. > > http://www.martinmodel.com/ > > http://www.martinmodel.com/products_services/flywh > eels/index.htm > > Good luck! > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 11 12:11:56 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:11:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <48270752.9080207@wildblue.net> Message-ID: Clint: I checked and didn't find anything but a link to a thread on Harry's. Thanks anyway. I think I've got the info I need. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Clint D > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 09:49 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > I can't find the link I had to a seller, but > there is a seller on Ebay > that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, > search for model engine > fly wheels > Clint > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and > am looking for a couple of cast-iron flywheels > about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. If they > are finished and if necessary, I can bush them > for the crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > > > Got any suggestions? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Sun May 11 15:41:31 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:41:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National next year who's going? In-Reply-To: <000001c8b29a$86157500$92405f00$@com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080507083631.0229b380@ncable.com.au> <20080507121711.MWYE1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080508085755.022bca60@ncable.com.au> <34536.168.215.206.73.1210265587.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <1210266321.482332d16d9fc@webmail.city-net.com> <1788.218.214.134.238.1210330634.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> <7.0.1.0.1.20080510100125.0208f698@ncable.com.au> <000001c8b29a$86157500$92405f00$@com.au> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080512083945.0228a058@ncable.com.au> Only once Cam as they would confiscate the rest off you. You have bugger all else to do, and you should have that bum crack engine back together by them! Wel will save you a spot. Russell At 10:36 PM 10/05/2008, you wrote: >Hey Russell, I wish I could get there that, it's so far from here it would >be six slabs and I would probably get locked up 3 or 4 times for dui. Cheers >Cam. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell >Gilbert >Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:04 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] National next year who's going? > >This national comming up is 400ks away from me, thats equals $100 >juice each way, 2 sblabs of beer $80 and a few feeds, I own my swag >so no cost there and I get to show of my lastest restoration. All for >well under $500 I wouldn't miss it for quids. >Russell > > >At 08:57 PM 9/05/2008, you wrote: > >Translate Yank into Ozzie? Not possible mate. After all, you guys are even > >upside down on the planet. > > > >Seriously, if anyone is considering the National - driving there from > >Sydney or Melbourne assuming you're towing some engines and accommodation > >will likely set you back about $2 thousand give or take. You can get a > >ticket to Portland from Melbourne for $2150 including internal flights. An > >SEL member would be able to get you from Indianapolis or Fort Wayne (the > >nearest airports) to Portland. More likely than not you can mooch some > >accommodation with an SEL member or camp out in a tent. > > > >Give it some thought. Take the opportunity if you can. > > > >Regards > >Paul > > > > > G'day Russell, > > > > > > AND this year you'll even have Reggie around if you need someone to > > > translate > > > Yank into Ozzie. As Curt mentioned, the exchange rate is just >ridiculous > > > in > > > your favor. And when you make your engine selections from the vast >number > > > for > > > sale at Portland, there are none of those silly "heritage" export laws >to > > > get > > > in the way of you taking your treasures back to Oz. 8-)) > > > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rotigel at alltel.net Sun May 11 16:51:29 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:51:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space Message-ID: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> Hi All, I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, See you at Coolspring! Dave From jlb94 at juno.com Sun May 11 08:11:24 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:11:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels Message-ID: <20080511.202813.1152.0.jlb94@juno.com> Elden, At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell Weights for flywheels. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:48:50 -0500 Clint D writes: > I can't find the link I had to a seller, but there is a seller on > Ebay > that sales all sizes reasonable, or most sizes, search for model > engine > fly wheels > Clint > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > I am building a "Homebrew" flywheel engine and am looking for a > couple of cast-iron flywheels about 2-1/2" wide and 8" in diameter. > If they are finished and if necessary, I can bush them for the > crankshaft. Unfinished castings would be better. > > > > Got any suggestions? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > > BTW, you can follow the progress of the engine at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun May 11 17:51:24 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:51:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> Message-ID: <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a different location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm going to dig out of the barn to bring. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY David Rotigel wrote: >Hi All, > I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in >June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for >years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can >move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL >sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and >signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree >end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, >See you at Coolspring! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 11 23:53:13 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:53:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Tommy, Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? ;) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a different location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm going to dig out of the barn to bring. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From russell at ncable.com.au Mon May 12 03:12:38 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:12:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] NEW TOY (Blackstone) In-Reply-To: <001501c8b34b$b1e31eb0$a6336c3a@fred> References: <001501c8b34b$b1e31eb0$a6336c3a@fred> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080512201133.0208b9f8@ncable.com.au> Another nice looking engine Brian, you must have a few blackies now. Russell At 07:45 PM 11/05/2008, you wrote: >Our latest new toy arrived last week, it`s a 1906 single >flywheel 6 1/2 HP. Blackstone with an atmospheric air inlet valve, >an older restoration that has had a smaller diameter flywheel fitted >at some time. > If any OZ. members know where we can get the right size flywheel > please contact us, an 8Hp Blackstone flywheel will fit on. >size- 45" dia.x 4 1/2" x 2 1/2" Bore. >or 48" x 4 1/2" x2 1/2"Bore. >please contact David if you know anyone who can help. > >latest photos of the engine on web site below, in 2008 folder. >Many thanks. > >David Watts (03) 87616332 >damewatt at bigpond.com > >Brian Watts (03) 97266147 >briwatt at optusnet.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 05:12:15 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:12:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi Tommy, > Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? >;) > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Mon May 12 05:45:16 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:45:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> Hi Guys, I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a science by mid June! Dave PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 12, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one > cylinder > or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to > hop on > me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, > mix > the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in > which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > >> Hi Tommy, >> Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? >> ;) >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 05:45:59 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:45:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> Message-ID: <48283C07.3060006@scrtc.com> Now Dave, you wouldn't put a nice little smokey Maytag in your sights would you? Destroying a Maytag would almost be a sin (I did say ALMOST). Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi Guys, > I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is >that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a >half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a >mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a >science by mid June! > Dave >PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! > > >-------- >David Rotigel >rotigel at alltel.net > > > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Mon May 12 06:03:13 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:03:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <48283C07.3060006@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> <3747EAF8-5C54-48D6-BECD-FB311DAA0E9A@alltel.net> <48283C07.3060006@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <6365F05F-BFB4-4791-A9B2-FEE323058295@alltel.net> WOW! Sorry Tommy (and all.) Somehow my post went to the wrong list. Sure don't know how that happened! Dave On May 12, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Now Dave, you wouldn't put a nice little smokey Maytag in your sights > would you? Destroying a Maytag would almost be a sin (I did say > ALMOST). > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > >> Hi Guys, >> I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is >> that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a >> half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a >> mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a >> science by mid June! >> Dave >> PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! >> >> >> -------- >> David Rotigel >> rotigel at alltel.net >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Mon May 12 06:18:09 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:18:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I just talked to Jake. He said that you are all set for your usual space. He tells me that you will be about 400 yds. away from the SEL area--not that that means anything, mind! Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 11, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location > that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a > different > location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm > going to dig out of the barn to bring. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > David Rotigel wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in >> June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for >> years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can >> move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL >> sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and >> signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree >> end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, >> See you at Coolspring! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon May 12 07:42:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:42:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <20080511.202813.1152.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: Joe: Good thinking! Now, all I gotta do is find some barbell weights! With the price of rough cast small flywheels, I've been looking for alternatives and yours is promising. Of the possibilities, I've thought of scouting a junkyard for an auto flywheel I can cut up and machine. I'd prefer to make the wheels out of cast because it is easier to machine. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jlb94 at juno.com > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Elden, > At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell > Weights for flywheels. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 08:12:22 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:12:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> <4827948C.90207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <48285E56.3040306@scrtc.com> Yeah Dave, I usually just drive up to Coolspring and don't have an engine set up. The last two times I've brought a trailer I've had to be pulled out with mud up to the floor (last time in fact they had to hook the Pettibone and the tractor together to get me out). That's why I like the blacktop at Portland!! Tommy Turner David Rotigel wrote: >Hi Tommy, I just talked to Jake. He said that you are all set for >your usual space. He tells me that you will be about 400 yds. away >from the SEL area--not that that means anything, mind! > Dave > > >-------- >David Rotigel >rotigel at alltel.net > > > >On May 11, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > > >>Thanks Dave! Do you think I'll be able to set up in the same location >>that I have for the last dozen years? If I need to move to a >>different >>location, I can. I'll be there on Wed. morning. Not sure what I'm >>going to dig out of the barn to bring. >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> >>David Rotigel wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi All, >>> I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in >>>June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for >>>years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can >>>move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL >>>sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and >>>signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree >>>end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, >>>See you at Coolspring! >>> Dave >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From jlb94 at juno.com Mon May 12 07:54:08 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:54:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels Message-ID: <20080512.105425.256.4.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Eldon, We get a local classified paper around here that always has someone selling weights for $25 or so. Or - Maybe stop at a few Yard Sales. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:42:09 -0500 "Elden DuRand" writes: > Joe: > > Good thinking! Now, all I gotta do is find some barbell weights! > With the price of rough cast small flywheels, I've been looking for > alternatives and yours is promising. Of the possibilities, I've > thought of scouting a junkyard for an auto flywheel I can cut up and > machine. > > I'd prefer to make the wheels out of cast because it is easier to > machine. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of > > jlb94 at juno.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > > > > Elden, > > At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell > > Weights for flywheels. > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > > \/)"(\/ > > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Mon May 12 09:12:37 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:12:37 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels References: <20080512.105425.256.4.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: Up here the Salvation Army has so many weights that they don't take them anymore. Just food for thought. RickinMt. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon May 12 10:23:52 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:23:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <48287D28.1060804@scrtc.com> Hey Dave and Patrick, I've made a big mistake. For some reason I had Portland on my mind when Dave posted about the SEL space so my comments have been about Portland not Coolspring. I had just read an email about the upcoming Portland Swap Meet and I guess when Dave posted about the SEL being in the same location, Portland is all I thought of. If I had read the Subject line I would have known what he was talking about. I really think the 1 cylinder Maytag would be more appropriate for Coolspring though now that I think about it. Tommy Turner Magnolia , KY >Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder >or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on >me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix >the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in >which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > > >>Hi Tommy, >> Surely you have a little ZD Fairbanks of an IHC LA you could take? >>;) >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From kimmell at verizon.net Mon May 12 14:10:48 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:10:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> References: <20080512065306.DQIZ9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <0K0R00HBNXGXDT6B@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Bring a single... they smoke more :-) -Tony At 07:12 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote: >Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder >or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on >me now). From George_Best at adp.com Mon May 12 14:18:59 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:18:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] FW: Nuenen 2008 Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906E863C2@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Here?s a message I just got from Holland. George From: french.bros at virgin.net [mailto:french.bros at virgin.net] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:45 PM To: Best, George Subject: Nuenen 2008 Hi George My travelling computer won't let me post to the list - can you forward this for me? Thanks! Dolly George, you were absolutely right - the weather for the show was FABULOUS. A tiny cloud crossed the sun at midday today and everyone on the showground looked up to see why it had gone dark!!! The engines on display were amazing. The actual area is quite small, but it's CRAMMED with incredibly rare, mostly European engines. Exhibitors were there from UK, Holland, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Germany and Hungary. We also met up with Ria Hammink, John's widow, who asked to be remembered to you all. It was lovely to see her and to know that John's hobby is still important to her. Go to go - the restaurant is calling, and Arnie gets ugly if he's late at the trough. Dolly, Jim & Arnie ******* This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Mon May 12 15:42:50 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:42:50 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: NEW TOY (Blackstone) Message-ID: <005301c8b481$8388ca60$a6336c3a@fred> Hi Russell, Our collection ideas has changed to Blackstone's,wasn`t meant to happen, they turn up and we can`t stop buying, still want more, now looking for a stationary 10-12 HP or larger, do you know anyone that has a 6 1/2hp.like ours, we need photos of choke system to copy. Also we like to find a larger Flywheel, keep your eyes out for us please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] NEW TOY (Blackstone) > Another nice looking engine Brian, you must have a few blackies now. > Russell >> >>David Watts (03) 87616332 >>damewatt at bigpond.com >> >>Brian Watts (03) 97266147 >>briwatt at optusnet.com.au >>http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1429 - Release Date: > 12/05/2008 6:14 PM > > From edurand at mchsi.com Mon May 12 17:34:18 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:34:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: <20080512.105425.256.4.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: Joe: I'll keep that in mind. I may also check out a pawn shop and the flea markets. I'm sorta leaning toward using what I have and that is an end from a piece of 5" diameter shafting. I can get enough out of that sucker to make the head and two flywheels and maybe have some left over. The other stuff (especially the model flywheel castings) are a bit pricey for this project. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jlb94 at juno.com > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 09:54 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Hi Eldon, > We get a local classified paper around here that > always has someone > selling weights for $25 or so. > Or - Maybe stop at a few Yard Sales. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". > > On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:42:09 -0500 "Elden DuRand" > > writes: > > Joe: > > > > Good thinking! Now, all I gotta do is find > some barbell weights! > > With the price of rough cast small flywheels, > I've been looking for > > alternatives and yours is promising. Of the > possibilities, I've > > thought of scouting a junkyard for an auto > flywheel I can cut up and > > machine. > > > > I'd prefer to make the wheels out of cast > because it is easier to > > machine. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > > Behalf Of > > > jlb94 at juno.com > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > > > > > > > Elden, > > > At the last show, I saw a guy that used Barbell > > > Weights for flywheels. > > > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > > > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > > > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > > \/)"(\/ > > (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon May 12 17:36:07 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:36:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good thinking, Rick! There's a Goodwill up the road a piece in Port St. Joe. I'll have to have a looksee. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Richard > Strobel > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:13 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > > > Up here the Salvation Army has so many weights > that they don't take them > anymore. > > Just food for thought. > > RickinMt. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon May 12 16:42:44 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:42:44 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels References: Message-ID: <00aa01c8b489$e5fb4cb0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Ha! I have two 20 Kg lifting weights in the shed that were donated. Too big for my needs. Anyome want to collect them? They are close to being moved to the scrapyard. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels > Good thinking, Rick! > > There's a Goodwill up the road a piece in Port St. Joe. I'll have to have > a looksee. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Richard >> Strobel >> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:13 AM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Source for 8" flywheels >> >> >> Up here the Salvation Army has so many weights >> that they don't take them >> anymore. >> >> Just food for thought. >> >> RickinMt. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Mon May 12 19:27:16 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:27:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space Message-ID: <410-22008521322716156@earthlink.net> Do please make a video, with that half dollar bragging Dave, you should be able to put one through the spark plug hole. Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas > [Original Message] > From: Judge Tommy Turner > To: The SEL email discussion list > Date: 5/12/2008 7:46:34 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space > > Now Dave, you wouldn't put a nice little smokey Maytag in your sights > would you? Destroying a Maytag would almost be a sin (I did say ALMOST). > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > >Hi Guys, > > I've just purchased a slightly used 50 cal. sniper rifle. Boy is > >that thing ever accurate! I'm covering 3 shots at 1,000 yds. with a > >half dollar and they tell me the thing is super accurate up to a > >mile! I'll do some more practicing and should have it down to a > >science by mid June! > > Dave > >PS, That 30X scope sure takes some getting used to! > > > > > >-------- > >David Rotigel > >rotigel at alltel.net > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1429 - Release Date: 5/12/2008 6:14 PM From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 13 14:44:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:44:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/6 Listerdiesel : Just got back home after the ferry crossing and drive from Harwich to home. Ferry was scheduled in at 8pm but we were off the ship and through customs by 8.05, not bad! The whole weekend has been fantastic. The weather was gorgeous, the engines were even better than gorgeous and the people we met were truly great to be with. There are nearly 500 pictures awaiting editing and a lot of video clips to sort through. The Onan genny sulked all weekend and only ran spasmodically, but our youngest son picked up a French Bernard F112 engine to bring home. The Onan looks to have problems in the magneto, and we did pick another new one at the show that was similar enough to try swapping parts, but detail design differences made that a non-starter, just like the engine! Folks we met up with included Arnie, Jim & Dolly, Craig Morrison, Ria Hammink and more. Lots of tales to tell sometime, the trailer is outside waiting to be unloaded but that will have to wait until morning. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue May 13 17:50:48 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <4828341F.1000800@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <608804.16196.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After seeing the gas price today I will suggest you take the twin. I have run a single and a twin for a 10 hour day. That is one tank of fuel for the twin and five tanks of fuel for the single. Alan --- Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder > or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on > me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix > the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in > which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue May 13 19:15:42 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:15:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <608804.16196.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <608804.16196.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <482A4B4E.1010809@scrtc.com> The twin it will be! (with triple the oil in the gas!). Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Alan Bowen wrote: >After seeing the gas price today I will suggest you take the twin. >I have run a single and a twin for a 10 hour day. >That is one tank of fuel for the twin and five tanks of fuel for the single. >Alan > >--- Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > > >>Actually Patrick I've can't figure out whether to bring the one cylinder >>or two cylinder Maytag (I'm waiting for all the Maytag junkies to hop on >>me now). I'm going to bring the one with the longest exhaust hose, mix >>the gas about 1 to 1 oil to fuel and fire that baby up!. Not sure in >>which direction I'll unroll the exhaust hose though! >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 01:18:29 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:18:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/13 Listerdiesel : Walter van Gulik emailed: "Nuenen show date is May 31st and June 1st 2009" Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 01:22:02 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:22:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures Message-ID: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm or http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm More tonight. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 07:34:54 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:34:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O><6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com><6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> I'm already planning on being there! Don't know yet if I'll go over for the show and then have my wife and some friends join me for some tourist type travels, or whether to try to plan another engine tour like Harry and I did last year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:18 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 2008/5/13 Listerdiesel : Walter van Gulik emailed: "Nuenen show date is May 31st and June 1st 2009" Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 08:03:20 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:03:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Thanks Peter!! Great pictures. I'm looking forward to seeing the other 475 pictures ;-) Really pained me not being able to be there this year. Hopefully I'll see you there next year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:22 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm or http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm More tonight. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 08:17:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:17:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Best, George : > Thanks Peter!! > > Great pictures. I'm looking forward to seeing the other 475 pictures > ;-) > > Really pained me not being able to be there this year. > > Hopefully I'll see you there next year. > > George > There were a few USA people there, plus one from Canada (Brian) You'd enjoy it, as it was relatively small, high quality and VERY friendly. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 08:19:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:19:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805140819p45532147k6724d73ea3b6f508@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Best, George : > I'm already planning on being there! > > Don't know yet if I'll go over for the show and then have my wife and > some friends join me for some tourist type travels, or whether to try to > plan another engine tour like Harry and I did last year. > > George Keep an eye on the exchange rate, a low $ is a pain for you guys but good for us coming over to the USA. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 08:36:05 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:36:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F053C7@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, I already know about the quality of engines and people at the show. I was there the last two years and only missed this year due to another family commitment that conflicted with the show. It is one of the most relaxed and friendly shows that I've attended. During 3 previous trips that Harry and I have made together, we've visited a fair number of the exhibitors at their homes. If you were impressed with the quality of the engines at the show, you would be even more impressed seeing the engines that were left at home! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel There were a few USA people there, plus one from Canada (Brian) You'd enjoy it, as it was relatively small, high quality and VERY friendly. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 14 08:57:24 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:57:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140819p45532147k6724d73ea3b6f508@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c8afb4$66479340$98f7474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O><6f6025160805061339i140cd0b6ifb79438f6113450e@mail.gmail.com><6f6025160805131444q612e5deds2473040910ef7c32@mail.gmail.com><6f6025160805140118n3162f8ban702f871b76d354ba@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F0522C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6f6025160805140819p45532147k6724d73ea3b6f508@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F054AD@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Glad I kept my extra Euros from last trip! However, the exchange rate or the cost of fuel is just something you have to pay if you want to do something. Would be great if we could go back to 2002 or earlier rates, but that's not going to happen. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Keep an eye on the exchange rate, a low $ is a pain for you guys but good for us coming over to the USA. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 14 14:21:04 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:21:04 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F053C7@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F052E6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6f6025160805140817t2eafafd8m5b29de1f25b08187@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F053C7@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805141421q2786164ay23a4283eb6d284cf@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Best, George : > Peter, > > I already know about the quality of engines and people at the show. I > was there the last two years and only missed this year due to another > family commitment that conflicted with the show. > > It is one of the most relaxed and friendly shows that I've attended. > During 3 previous trips that Harry and I have made together, we've > visited a fair number of the exhibitors at their homes. If you were > impressed with the quality of the engines at the show, you would be even > more impressed seeing the engines that were left at home! > > George Forgot the HOWT trips that you did, seems like ages ago now! There's 90+ pictures up on the websites now, just loading the last of them before we go off to bed. There are 4 menu pages, links between each page at the bottom as usual. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed May 14 19:24:50 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fw: transportation needed Message-ID: <009c01c8b632$da785b80$726f4b47@mikecomp> Hello all: I recently acquired an aircooled engine located in Cinnaminson NJ, 08077 and would love some assistance getting it to either the Coolspring show, Portland show, or Shelby, NC. Would be more than happy to aid with "gas money" to help get it there. It is currently located in a garage right off the interstate. If you could help me I sure would appreciate it. Mike Royster (704) 418-1177 mr at carolina.rr.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed May 14 19:25:24 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:25:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fw: transportation needed Message-ID: <00a501c8b632$eeb9e780$726f4b47@mikecomp> Hello all: I recently acquired an aircooled engine located in Cinnaminson NJ, 08077 and would love some assistance getting it to either the Coolspring show, Portland show, or Shelby, NC. Would be more than happy to aid with "gas money" to help get it there. It is currently located in a garage right off the interstate. If you could help me I sure would appreciate it. Mike Royster (704) 418-1177 mr at carolina.rr.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed May 14 19:53:57 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:53:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00fd01c8b636$ec061550$726f4b47@mikecomp> OUTSTANDING!!! I want the Perin! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: ; "Stationary-Engine" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > > More tonight. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Thu May 15 09:19:46 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:19:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry In-Reply-To: <00fd01c8b636$ec061550$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. Examples include: The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. The cast used for the flywheels. The cast used for auto engine blocks The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. Were the heads cast using different chemistries? What is "automotive gray cast iron" Thanks. Bill Runnells, IA From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 15 10:49:46 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:49:46 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry In-Reply-To: <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> References: <00fd01c8b636$ec061550$726f4b47@mikecomp> <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Message-ID: <6f6025160805151049w9ef7442u27218a202b4cbea@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/15 Bill Dickerson : > > Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. > Examples include: > The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. > The cast used for the flywheels. > The cast used for auto engine blocks > The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. > Were the heads cast using different chemistries? > What is "automotive gray cast iron" > > Thanks. > > > Bill Bill: I have a copy of the"Gray Iron Castings Handbook" on the desk, and as far as specifications go, it's a huge subject. The main standards are: SAE, ASTM, ASA, US Navy, US Military. I can pull out some detail for you, but I think that you may be better off getting something similar in your hands to have a read of. My copy is dated 1958, and published by the Gray Iron Founders Society Inc., Cleveland. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 15 13:04:07 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:04:07 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm We have 6 menu pages up and running now. Probably get another page started before I call it a night. Bought a bottle of "Pisang Ambon" liqueur on the ferry back, it is rather nice with fresh orange juice, and fairly strong at 20% vol :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 15 13:14:00 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:14:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F6137C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, The unknown engine in the vendor area on page 5 with the 4 spoke flywheels is a French made Japy engine. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:04 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures 2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm We have 6 menu pages up and running now. Probably get another page started before I call it a night. Bought a bottle of "Pisang Ambon" liqueur on the ferry back, it is rather nice with fresh orange juice, and fairly strong at 20% vol :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 15 13:23:56 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:23:56 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F6137C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805151304s66a596aas79aa202dce6d8530@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F6137C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805151323q587ff20fs9a473bc5297a2e9a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/15 Best, George : > Peter, > > The unknown engine in the vendor area on page 5 with the 4 spoke > flywheels is a French made Japy engine. > > George > Many thanks, George, I'll correct that in the morning. I've just shut down the website PC for the night, nearly got another page ready :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu May 15 13:54:40 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:54:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry References: <000401c8b6a7$7ea2eee0$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Message-ID: <008301c8b6cd$e590eb90$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> OK I will stick my neck out a way. Top quality CI will have a low carbon content of 1% or so, low grade CI will be up around 4%. A lot of the other types such as chilled, white, gray and meonite get their qualities from the pour temperature, carbon content, and post pour heat treatment. This is a very simplistic explanation and as Peter says, get a book on the subject. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. Examples include: The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. The cast used for the flywheels. The cast used for auto engine blocks The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. Were the heads cast using different chemistries? What is "automotive gray cast iron" Thanks. Bill Runnells, IA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM From bill at antique-engines.com Thu May 15 15:26:26 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:26:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry In-Reply-To: <008301c8b6cd$e590eb90$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <000001c8b6da$b77da650$fa00a8c0@sheeba> Wondering what this means, and if the nickel content is high...... Perhaps compared to other blocks? Some say so. Is it high compared to other cast iron? http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/ijwebb/forum/nickel.jpg There's debates on if those numbers are typical. I suspect our antiques are pretty ordinary in content......... And not all that hard. Also wondering about heads/valves, etc. Although I suspect those are hardened after the casting process as needed. Bill -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry OK I will stick my neck out a way. Top quality CI will have a low carbon content of 1% or so, low grade CI will be up around 4%. A lot of the other types such as chilled, white, gray and meonite get their qualities from the pour temperature, carbon content, and post pour heat treatment. This is a very simplistic explanation and as Peter says, get a book on the subject. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: [SEL] Cast iron chemistry Can someone tell me the common content of cast iron used for various things. Examples include: The cast iron used on the old engine blocks and heads. The cast used for the flywheels. The cast used for auto engine blocks The cast used for auto engine blocks in the 60s. Were the heads cast using different chemistries? What is "automotive gray cast iron" Thanks. Bill Runnells, IA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Thu May 15 20:48:11 2008 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:48:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? Message-ID: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> http://www.wkfinetools.com/z_tDownL/howTo-Books.asp Some interesting books available for download. Carpentry and Joinery 1915 - The Amateur Carpenter by Hyatt Verrill 1910 - Handwork in Wood by William Noyes 1910 - Pattern-Making by G. H. Willard 1907 - Home Mechanics for Amateurs by George M. Hopkins 1906 - Woodworking for Beginners by Charles G. Wheeler 1905 - A Manual of Carpentry and Joinery by J. W. Riley 1900 - Mind and Hand by Charles H. Ham 1896 - Forty Lessons in Carpentry... By Charles F. Mitchell 1890 - Bench Work in Wood by W. F. M. Goss 1889 - Exercises in Wood-Working by Ivin Sickels 1885 - Elementary Principles of Carpentry by Thomas Tredgold 1866 - Our Workshop 1831 - The Mechanic's Companion by Peter Nicholson 1826 - Practical Carpentry, Joinery, and Cabinet-Making Finish and Recipes 2006 - French Polishing and Enamelling by Arthur Bitmead 1913 - Handbook on Japanning by William N. Brown 1883 - Workshop Receipts by Ernest Spon Turning Wood, Lathes and Tools 1919 - Course in Wood Turning by Archie S. Milton and Otto K. Wohlers 1882 - Cutting Tools Worked by Hand and Machine by R. Smith 1868 - The Lathe & Its Uses by James Lukin 1843 - Turning and Mechanical Manipulation by C. Holtzapffel-V.1 1843 - Turning and Mechanical Manipulation by C. Holtzapffel-V.3 1833 - Ibbetson's Geometric Chuck, manufactured by Holtzapffel & Co. Blacksmithing and Metal Working 1920 - Elementary Forge Practice by Robert H. Harcourt 1919 - Forge Practice by John Lord Bacon 1914 - Steel Working and Tool Dressing by W. S. Casterlin 1913 - Drill Jigs - Machinery's Reference Series 1913 - Popular Mechanics Shop Notes 1911 - Hand Forging by Thomas F. Googerty 1903 - The Home Mechanic by John Wright 1903 - Modern Machine Shop Tools by William H. Von Dervoort 1901 - Spons' Mechanics' Own Book 1901 - Farm Blacksmithing - by James M. Drew 1888 - Practical Blacksmithing by M. T. Richardson 1873 - Workshop Appliances by C. P. B. Shelley Constuction 1874 - The Construction of Mill Dams by James Leffel & Co. -- Steve Williams From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 16 07:21:43 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:21:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? In-Reply-To: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> References: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906F61ADC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Thanks for the link Steve. I've always enjoyed reading the Popular Mechanics Shop Notes. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve W. Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:48 PM To: ATIS LIST; Engine list Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? http://www.wkfinetools.com/z_tDownL/howTo-Books.asp Some interesting books available for download. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From FRM8198 at aol.com Fri May 16 07:47:58 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:47:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? Message-ID: Thanks for sharing this site with us. Francis Maciel In a message dated 5/15/2008 8:57:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, falcon at telenet.net writes: Some interesting books available for download. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 16 12:16:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:16:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Help needed with Caterpillar service manual Message-ID: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> We are getting the bum's rush in the UK, with trying to obtain a manual for the 1Y73 caterpillar research diesel engines. The part number is: SENR2074, Caterpillar insist that it is a good number and is currently available from their dealers. UK dealers say that no such number exists. Is there anyone in the USA that can contact a local dealer for us, and find out if this can be purchased locally and mailed, either to our friends in Gilbert, AZ or to us directly? We can pay with PayPal or send cash $$'s by registered post. We have a contact in Caterpillar Media center that we can give a phone # for if needed. We have been nearly a year now trying to get this manual and it is getting a bit frustrating...... Many thanks, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Frank at lbpinc.com Fri May 16 13:04:30 2008 From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:04:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag Message-ID: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover of Gas Engine Magazine. I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and not a bad hot water heater. I highly recommend the article and a visit. Frank From rotigel at alltel.net Fri May 16 13:39:48 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:39:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help needed with Caterpillar service manual In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57CAEBD7-AA43-4771-9462-886E3D5C829B@alltel.net> Hi Peter, I just talked to a parts man from Ohio Cat. He can get it for us-- it's called a "Single Cylinder Test Engine" manual. It was printed in 1981. Cost is $26.88 plus tax and shipping. It would be printed ONLY after I order and thus would take 5-7 weeks. Their parts dept. is open until midnight tonight. Do you want me to order it for you? Once I order it there would be no chance of canceling the order! Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 16, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > We are getting the bum's rush in the UK, with trying to obtain a > manual for the 1Y73 caterpillar research diesel engines. > > The part number is: SENR2074, Caterpillar insist that it is a good > number and is currently available from their dealers. > > UK dealers say that no such number exists. > > Is there anyone in the USA that can contact a local dealer for us, and > find out if this can be purchased locally and mailed, either to our > friends in Gilbert, AZ or to us directly? We can pay with PayPal or > send cash $$'s by registered post. We have a contact in Caterpillar > Media center that we can give a phone # for if needed. > > We have been nearly a year now trying to get this manual and it is > getting a bit frustrating...... > > Many thanks, > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 16 13:38:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:38:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag In-Reply-To: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> References: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: <6f6025160805161338q49b8bb92wa38c1aa17bfd51ef@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/16 Frank DeWitt : > I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover > of Gas Engine Magazine. > > I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is > a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a > antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they > had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the > observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open > knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and > not a bad hot water heater. > > I highly recommend the article and a visit. > > Frank We also did the tour with Larry and Ken and our friends Tim & Sally. Snow on the ground in April, but what a fantastic place and wouldn't have missed that for anything! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 16 13:40:08 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:08 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Help needed with Caterpillar service manual In-Reply-To: <57CAEBD7-AA43-4771-9462-886E3D5C829B@alltel.net> References: <6f6025160805161216k6b2991feg7313fb0c525eb939@mail.gmail.com> <57CAEBD7-AA43-4771-9462-886E3D5C829B@alltel.net> Message-ID: <6f6025160805161340l20fd0395g856b3f0d2f7e94f2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/16 David Rotigel : > Hi Peter, > I just talked to a parts man from Ohio Cat. He can get it for us-- > it's called a "Single Cylinder Test Engine" manual. It was printed in > 1981. Cost is $26.88 plus tax and shipping. It would be printed ONLY > after I order and thus would take 5-7 weeks. Their parts dept. is > open until midnight tonight. Do you want me to order it for you? Once > I order it there would be no chance of canceling the order! > Dave Have emailed you off-list, Dave, many thanks for your assistance. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at alltel.net Fri May 16 15:22:53 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:22:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805161338q49b8bb92wa38c1aa17bfd51ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> <6f6025160805161338q49b8bb92wa38c1aa17bfd51ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <271163C2-54EA-46EF-91F0-CC96A0F6DF85@alltel.net> Arnie and I went through the engine house and the observatory years ago while attending the Tulare Show. It was great to "revisit" the engine via Larry's article! Dave On May 16, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/16 Frank DeWitt : >> I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover >> of Gas Engine Magazine. >> >> I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is >> a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a >> antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they >> had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the >> observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open >> knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and >> not a bad hot water heater. >> >> I highly recommend the article and a visit. >> >> Frank > > We also did the tour with Larry and Ken and our friends Tim & Sally. > > Snow on the ground in April, but what a fantastic place and wouldn't > have missed that for anything! > > Peter From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat May 17 03:54:58 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:54:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mt Wilson Fairbanks Morse - Gas Engine Mag References: <20080516201147.AE9D85873B@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: <005001c8b80c$7309f590$0200a8c0@altech> Kaye and I also have had the pleasure of Larry's grand tour, well I did anyhow, Kaye was very motion sick from all the bends up the mountain. Thought the poor gal was going to die ;-))) Peter, Oz >I was delighted to see the Fairbanks Morse 50 HP engine on the cover > of Gas Engine Magazine. > > I am one of many that Larry Evans has introduced to the engine. He is > a great host and the rest of the Mt Wilson Observatory Is also a > antique mechanical wonder. Larry mentions in the article how they > had to protect the DC switch gear, that is because much of the > observatory is still 120 VDC and most of the switch gear is wide open > knife switches ETC. See more of the engine at his web site. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ It is a great engine, and > not a bad hot water heater. > > I highly recommend the article and a visit. > > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 17 04:44:34 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:44:34 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips Message-ID: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs (24 per page) and have taken a break to start on the video clips. We took 70 or so clips at the show, concentrated on the runners, including the models. Traditionally we have always put the clips up individually with a menu page to select which one you want. Each thumbnail has the clip number, file size and running time. That will continue, but we have also done something a little different with the Nuenen clips, and have grouped clips of the same engine into one larger file with an extended run time. The Pool engine was the first to get the treatment, you can't access the individual clips yet as the whole set hasn't been produced, but the larger (6mb) clip which runs for 57 seconds is available now at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv The Loog-Landaal engine is on, 1min 27secs, 9mb: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv It is in wide-screen format and Windows Media player should pick it up OK. You may need to pull the margins out on each side. When we do the main menu, the grouped videos will have a section of their own somewhere. If you cannot get into one of the servers, try one of the others as they always get busy and slow when everyone jumps on to look at big files! We have opened up another site at stationary-engine.net to ease the access problems for a few days. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edurand at mchsi.com Sat May 17 07:42:03 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:42:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? In-Reply-To: <482D03FB.7060908@telenet.net> Message-ID: Steve: Thanks! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Steve W. > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:48 PM > To: ATIS LIST; Engine list > Subject: [SEL] Old shop books OT? > > > http://www.wkfinetools.com/z_tDownL/howTo-Books.asp > > Some interesting books available for download.Thanks! From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sat May 17 10:12:54 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 11:12:54 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Eveready engine Message-ID: G'day all; Anyone have one of these? 6hp Trying to get some more info on this engine and help a guy out. Not much info in the BPB. TIA RickinMt. PS: Pictures will be posted soon on my friends new acquistion. FM Z 6hp with the biggest FM "Typhoon" recip water pump...10x6 made. This should make a great working display. From WinkAndGinger at aol.com Sat May 17 15:16:48 2008 From: WinkAndGinger at aol.com (WinkAndGinger at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:16:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Eveready engine Message-ID: In a message dated 5/17/2008 10:27:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: > > G'day all; > Anyone have one of these? 6hp Trying to get some more info on this engine > and help a guy out. Not much info in the BPB. > > TIA > I have a 4 hp. Mine looks like a Witte, the parts manual matches up. We think Witte licensed Ever Ready Machine of Montreal Canada to make these engines and they put the Ever Ready tag on them. I have pics. if you need them. Hope this helps. Wink & Ginger Thornton, Yucca Valley Ca., USA KG6TVW, KG6TVV The older the violin....the sweeter the music! http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4114826&a=30951078&pw= ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Sun May 18 01:18:14 2008 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 08:18:14 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter,thanks for the vids.I found them fasinating! Little bit worried about the man with the Pool engine,he seems a bit unsteady on his feet and his tee shirt is all wet.Good job there was some one to look after him there. John> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:44:34 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips> > We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs (24 per page) and have> taken a break to start on the video clips.> > We took 70 or so clips at the show, concentrated on the runners,> including the models.> > Traditionally we have always put the clips up individually with a menu> page to select which one you want. Each thumbnail has the clip number,> file size and running time.> > That will continue, but we have also done something a little different> with the Nuenen clips, and have grouped clips of the same engine into> one larger file with an extended run time.> > The Pool engine was the first to get the treatment, you can't access> the individual clips yet as the whole set hasn't been produced, but> the larger (6mb) clip which runs for 57 seconds is available now at:> > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH24-28.wmv> > The Loog-Landaal engine is on, 1min 27secs, 9mb:> > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008CH9-17.wmv> > It is in wide-screen format and Windows Media player should pick it up> OK. You may need to pull the margins out on each side.> > When we do the main menu, the grouped videos will have a section of> their own somewhere.> > If you cannot get into one of the servers, try one of the others as> they always get busy and slow when everyone jumps on to look at big> files! We have opened up another site at stationary-engine.net to ease> the access problems for a few days.> > Peter> > -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 18 03:13:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:13:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: References: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805180313v545683b1l15ffe7ba26c60c86@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/18 john palmer : > > Peter,thanks for the vids.I found them fasinating! Little bit worried about the man with the Pool engine,he seems a bit unsteady on his feet and his tee shirt is all wet.Good job there was some one to look after him there. John> They had a lot of trouble with the crank and big-end bearing running hot, and they also changed the crankshaft round in the engine after a keyway problem with the flywheel. It was pretty hot as well! All of the videos are sorted out now, I'll post the details later on today. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 18 04:25:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:25:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805170444v37aa3908k7dc4f7b0bfdc5e3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805180425x4ab6fd91gf7c4fe254bdc381e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/17 Listerdiesel : > We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs (24 per page) and have > taken a break to start on the video clips. All the videos and menu pages are up and running: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/VideoQKMenu.htm or http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/VideoQKMenu.htm or http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008/VideoQKMenu.htm The larger group videos are at the bottom of Video Menu Page 2. Let me know if you have any problems with access. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun May 18 06:25:22 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 07:25:22 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Eveready engine References: Message-ID: Here's 3 pictures we took of the Ever Ready 6hp made in Waterloo, Iowa. Way different than Wink and Gingers in California. Look familiar to anyone? Waterloo clone maybe? He does need the ignitor and I should have thrown the head on for the picture. Thanks much...I'm sure he'll appreciate any info. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563468111rxsYBT RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Eveready engine > In a message dated 5/17/2008 10:27:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: > > > > > > G'day all; > > Anyone have one of these? 6hp Trying to get some more info on this > > engine > > and help a guy out. Not much info in the BPB. > > > > TIA > > > > I have a 4 hp. Mine looks like a Witte, the parts manual matches up. > We think Witte licensed Ever Ready Machine of Montreal Canada to make > these > engines and they put the Ever Ready tag on them. I have pics. if you need > them. > > Hope this helps. > > Wink & Ginger Thornton, > Yucca Valley Ca., USA > KG6TVW, KG6TVV > The older the violin....the sweeter the music! > http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4114826&a=30951078&pw= > > > > ************** > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at > AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 18 17:29:15 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:29:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805180425x4ab6fd91gf7c4fe254bdc381e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: Thanks for the videos! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 06:25 AM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine > Subject: Re: [SEL] Nunen 2008 Video Clips > > > 2008/5/17 Listerdiesel : > > We are up to Page 8 on the still photographs > (24 per page) and have > > taken a break to start on the video clips. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 18 18:57:48 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:57:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos Message-ID: <20080519015739.OZBH14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> I went out to Cambelltown Steam Museum for a look yesterday. As usual I took lots of photos (which will appear on the net at some time soon). I also took a couple of short videos which I have uploaded onto Youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun May 18 19:30:51 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:30:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos Message-ID: <410-22008511923051656@earthlink.net> Hey Patrick, both of those video's are the same. Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas > [Original Message] > From: Patrick M Livingstone > To: Stationary Engine ATIS List ; Stationary Engine Mailing List > Date: 5/18/2008 8:57:41 PM > Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos > > I went out to Cambelltown Steam Museum for a look yesterday. As usual I took > lots of photos (which will appear on the net at some time soon). I also took > a couple of short videos which I have uploaded onto Youtube at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1453 - Release Date: 5/18/2008 9:31 AM From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun May 18 19:49:38 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:49:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos References: <20080519015739.OZBH14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000a01c8b95a$fdce73a0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Er, they are both the same!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos >I went out to Cambelltown Steam Museum for a look yesterday. As usual I >took > lots of photos (which will appear on the net at some time soon). I also > took > a couple of short videos which I have uploaded onto Youtube at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5EUZi_HJg > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 18 20:15:31 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:15:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A couple of Youtube videos In-Reply-To: <000a01c8b95a$fdce73a0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <20080519031521.ISSG9173.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Oops! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM5FK15EVPo Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Er, they are both the same!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From pjp at steamengine.com.au Mon May 19 04:21:38 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:21:38 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Steam and IC engines for Royal Melbourne Show - Expressions of interest Message-ID: <3092.218.214.134.238.1211196098.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> I've been approached by the Royal Melbourne Show committee on who they could get to have steam and possibly IC engines to go into a pioneer village this year at the show (yes I know it is late notice). Rather than just give them people to talk to I've offered to help facilitate the display. If you're interested in exhibiting (particularly if you can furnish steam) could you please let me know. If the committee choose to have me help then I'll get in touch and start organising who can come on what days and what they can bring and what they're needs might be. In case they don't want me to help then indicate if I can pass on your contact details to them directly. At this stage, this is just an expression of interest. Who can say if anything will happen. Regards Paul From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon May 19 09:45:27 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:45:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] An Engine Man Visits America (Kansas & Missouri) Message-ID: <1211215527.4831aea77f137@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Folks, I met a really nice engine man at Neunen 2008 who's also a Coleman Lamp collector. It turns out that he's coming across the pond for a Coleman Lamp convention, flying into Kansas City on June 9th. He'll be at the convention June 11-15 and then flys back to the Netherlands on June 19th. His name is Herman Mulder and his email addy is: mulder.herman at hetnet.nl His wife's name is Marga. He asked me if there were any engine shows or collectors who would welcome a Dutch collector to visit them and let them show off their collection. He's looking for things mainly in the Kansas & Missouri area. I'm still in England so I don't have access to the show directory. If any of the list members know of any shows or fellow collectors that would suit his availability, please let him know via email. Or post a reply and I'll forward it to him. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon May 19 12:10:32 2008 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:10:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20080519120336.03d8d500@pop.att.yahoo.com> Now that some of you are reminded of the big Fairbanks Morse engine at Mt. Wilson I thought you might be interested in seeing a few pictures of our most recent project there. My brother Ken and I were asked to see if it was feasible to get a large old Deming triplex pump working again. See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/deming/index.htm for some pictures and explanation of the project. Thanks for all the kind words about the GEM article. Regards, Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From Germoamer at aol.com Mon May 19 12:38:39 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:38:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project Message-ID: Larry, Really a good feeling when you bring something back to live with minimal trouble! Also enjoyed the GEM article. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon May 19 13:42:51 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] An Engine Man Visits America (Kansas & Missouri) In-Reply-To: <1211215527.4831aea77f137@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <155245.85438.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rats!!! He is leaving too soon. Lathrop starts on June 19th and that just North of Kansas City. Other shows are going on whilr he will be at the Coleman Lamp convention. Where is that convention located? Alan --- fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I met a really nice engine man at Neunen 2008 who's also a Coleman Lamp > collector. It turns out that he's coming across the pond for a Coleman Lamp > convention, flying into Kansas City on June 9th. He'll be at the convention > June 11-15 and then flys back to the Netherlands on June 19th. > > His name is Herman Mulder and his email addy is: mulder.herman at hetnet.nl > His wife's name is Marga. > > He asked me if there were any engine shows or collectors who would welcome a > Dutch collector to visit them and let them show off their collection. He's > looking for things mainly in the Kansas & Missouri area. > > I'm still in England so I don't have access to the show directory. > > If any of the list members know of any shows or fellow collectors that would > suit his availability, please let him know via email. Or post a reply and I'll > forward it to him. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon May 19 14:52:41 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:52:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] wiscona pep motor 1 1/2 hp Message-ID: <000801c8b9fa$a9676fb0$12d66e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi, I returned home from Nuenen last night with my new toy,can anyone help with my querries? 1, what is the webster mag and bracket that I need ? 2, what is the paint colour code ? 3, does anyone know if anybody reproduces the decals for them, if so who ? Thanks, Craig in Scotland From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon May 19 21:33:30 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:33:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 Message-ID: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> This past weekend was the fifth annual California Gold engine show. This year it was held at Ken McCrary's place at Davenport Ca. I have posted pictures, a couple of captions are not there yet and there may be a few names mixed up or misspelled. But check out the beautiful setting. Enjoy. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CaliforniaGold2008 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue May 20 00:13:22 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:13:22 +1000 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 References: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <00de01c8ba49$025e42d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Enjoyed the pics. Was that Mery a full size? I sure would like more info on it. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 > This past weekend was the fifth annual California Gold engine show. This > year it was held at Ken McCrary's place at Davenport Ca. I have posted > pictures, a couple of captions are not there yet and there may be a few > names mixed up or misspelled. But check out the beautiful setting. > Enjoy. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CaliforniaGold2008 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 00:42:57 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:42:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805200042x7f370e72r5d3f2ec75ea5e41a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > or > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm Up to 14 menu pages now, and a new server added: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm (There is NO menuing system on the new server yet) The videos are linked at the bottom of the picture menu pages, but not the other way round (yet) Let me know of any problem with access please. There are probably another 2 menu pages to go and then that's it, all done. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kosh at ncweb.com Tue May 20 02:19:01 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 05:19:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805200042x7f370e72r5d3f2ec75ea5e41a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805140122m4a796ee6w42cccbdb75c334eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080520051835.03c187b8@ncweb.com> It's going to take a while to go thru it all, but worth it! Thanks Dave At 03:42 AM 5/20/2008, you wrote: >2008/5/14 Listerdiesel : > > The first menu page and 25 picture pages are up at: > > > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > > or > > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > >Up to 14 menu pages now, and a new server added: > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Nuenen2008/NuenenMenu1.htm > >(There is NO menuing system on the new server yet) > >The videos are linked at the bottom of the picture menu pages, but not >the other way round (yet) > >Let me know of any problem with access please. There are probably >another 2 menu pages to go and then that's it, all done. > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Tue May 20 06:40:12 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:40:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project References: <6.0.1.1.2.20080519120336.03d8d500@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: NICE lookin' engine Larry. Friend Corky and I now have the big 6x10 FBM "Typoon" in the electrolysis soup. If you happen to know of a spring supplier other than Century, sure would appreciate a heads-up as we have one broken. btw, your chart sure comes in handy and many thanks again for sending it!!! Regards, RickinMt. PS: Still lookin' fer the attachments that go on the H-beam car lift...gotta be out there somewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Evans" To: Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project > Now that some of you are reminded of the big Fairbanks Morse engine at Mt. > Wilson I thought you might be interested in seeing a few pictures of our > most recent project there. My brother Ken and I were asked to see if it > was feasible to get a large old Deming triplex pump working again. See: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/deming/index.htm > for some pictures and explanation of the project. > > Thanks for all the kind words about the GEM article. > > Regards, > > Larry Evans > MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue May 20 07:18:38 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:18:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 In-Reply-To: <00de01c8ba49$025e42d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> <00de01c8ba49$025e42d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: On May 20, 2008, at 12:13 AM, R & M Ingold wrote: > Enjoyed the pics. Was that Mery a full size? I sure would like more > info on it. Chuck was interested in hearing of your modeling exploits and seeing the video of your Mery running. The castings you used were dimensioned off his engine. I'll send you his email address this afternoon. From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Tue May 20 07:26:12 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:26:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Latest Mt. Wilson project References: <6.0.1.1.2.20080519120336.03d8d500@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: crap..way too early for this sheep herder....nice looking pump. Rick From alharris44 at gmail.com Sat May 17 14:55:42 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 07:55:42 +1000 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> G'day List, I have just acquired a "knapsack blower" manufactured by Marino in Brisbane, Australia. I cannot locate the maker, so I am begging for assistance here. :-) The engine is a JLO Rockwell L35L, made in Hamburg, two-stroke, 35ccm capacity, making 1.7hp at 6000rpm. Info from manufacturers plate. The carby, muffler and start-pulley are not original (but they work). ;-) Any booklets/info on the engine especially welcome. > http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower01.jpg > http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower02.jpg TIA Al Harris Clarence Coast Oz From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 10:23:28 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:23:28 +0100 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/17 Al Harris : > G'day List, > > I have just acquired a "knapsack blower" manufactured by > Marino in Brisbane, Australia. I cannot locate the maker, so I > am begging for assistance here. :-) > > The engine is a JLO Rockwell L35L, made in Hamburg, > two-stroke, 35ccm capacity, making 1.7hp at 6000rpm. Info from > manufacturers plate. > > The carby, muffler and start-pulley are not original (but they > work). ;-) Any booklets/info on the engine especially welcome. > >> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower01.jpg > >> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower02.jpg > > TIA > Al Harris Hi Al: It is in fact 'ILO' as the trademark has a stylised "I" which looks like a 'J'. We have a few ILO manuals, as we also have a 372cc ILO-powered genset. I'll have a dig later on and see if we have anything on that one. I think after Rockwell-Tecumseh had finished with them, it all closed down. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From curt at rustyiron.com Tue May 20 12:14:17 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Al, OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? Curt > 2008/5/17 Al Harris : >> G'day List, >> >> I have just acquired a "knapsack blower" manufactured by >> Marino in Brisbane, Australia. I cannot locate the maker, so I >> am begging for assistance here. :-) >> >> The engine is a JLO Rockwell L35L, made in Hamburg, >> two-stroke, 35ccm capacity, making 1.7hp at 6000rpm. Info from >> manufacturers plate. >> >> The carby, muffler and start-pulley are not original (but they >> work). ;-) Any booklets/info on the engine especially welcome. >> >>> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower01.jpg >> >>> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/temp/blower02.jpg >> >> TIA >> Al Harris > > Hi Al: > > It is in fact 'ILO' as the trademark has a stylised "I" which looks like a > 'J'. > > We have a few ILO manuals, as we also have a 372cc ILO-powered genset. > > I'll have a dig later on and see if we have anything on that one. > > I think after Rockwell-Tecumseh had finished with them, it all closed > down. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 12:38:00 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:38:00 +0100 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 : > Al, > OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? > Curt Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 12:56:41 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. Message-ID: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> We've got a pair of brand new Donaldon air cleaners for the Cat engines. They are conventional type with the oil reservoir at the bottom, retained by a circular clip, inlet is on the top and the outlet to the engine is on the side. On most applications, these would have had a 'mushroom' header on the inlet so that bits and pieces and rain didn't get in. Sometimes the inlet would be taken elsewhere via a flexible hose. I recollect vehicles in the USA having these out on the bonnet (hood) of the truck on one side, particularly construction trucks and utility vehicles. We are looking for a couple of the mushroom headers, and I've tried to find a picture or details on Donaldson's website, but they seem to have gone over to dry filters these days. The filter type is very similar to ebay # 120184524839 but ours are in better condition and boxed. The cap we need is something like ebay # 120215289926, but there are also 'chamfered top' types with finning inside the cap which I think are what we need. The pipe that the cap fits to is 2" diameter. If I find a decent picture, I'll post it here. Thanks, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue May 20 13:19:21 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:19:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805201319q8b1e06h682a035acf185c93@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 Listerdiesel : > We've got a pair of brand new Donaldon air cleaners for the Cat > engines. They are conventional type with the oil reservoir at the > bottom, retained by a circular clip, inlet is on the top and the > outlet to the engine is on the side. We had a smaller filter from a Petter AVB Lab engine in the storage downstairs, which has the required cap on it, albeit smaller. Picture at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Misc/AirCleaner1.jpg THAT is what we are looking for, to fit the 2" top pipe on top of the air filter on the right, 2 pces reqd.. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue May 20 14:11:08 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:11:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > We are looking for a couple of the mushroom headers, and I've tried to > find a picture or details on Donaldson's website, but they seem to > have gone over to dry filters these days. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The cap we need is something like ebay # 120215289926, but there are > also 'chamfered top' types with finning inside the cap which I think > are what we need. The pipe that the cap fits to is 2" diameter. Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went away . If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . Chuck Balyeat http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue May 20 14:11:24 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:11:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com><6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com><18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006201c8babe$0fe8d990$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> >> OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? >> Curt > > Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. > > Peter > The round thing in front of the operators belly button . Is it for a 75lb counter weight maybe ? Chuck Balyeat http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From alharris44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 14:37:34 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:37:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <006201c8babe$0fe8d990$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com><6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com><18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> <006201c8babe$0fe8d990$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <4833449E.3030807@gmail.com> Chuck, it's surprisingly light, 20-25lb. Possibly because of the fiberglass and hollow tube construction. Al Chuck Balyeat wrote: > Peter wrote: >> Curt wrote: >>> OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? >>> >> Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. >> > > The round thing in front of the operators belly button . > Is it for a 75lb counter weight maybe ? > > Chuck Balyeat > http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From alharris44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 13:26:21 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:26:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] JLO/Rockwell In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <482F545E.3080904@gmail.com> <6f6025160805201023r47eb8ce9t77f2ba28af2ec0a@mail.gmail.com> <18899.168.215.206.73.1211310857.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6f6025160805201238y17293081mee6affa7f28899bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483333ED.7070205@gmail.com> G'day List, Peter, thanks. Curt, you are probably questioning the use of the "watermelon ring" (WMR) attached to the front of the carrier. ;-) In further examining of the carrier, with all the dead vegetation/insect remains removed, the frame on the RHS has two large holes, one halfway down the tubing at the back and one toward the inside-front, near the wrist area. There is also a venturi near the outlet of the blower (pic 1), so I am assuming the WMR is for carrying chemicals or such for spraying. The venturi inside the housing is actually bent upwards, which has me confused as logic tells me, air would blow out of the tube????? BTW the WMR is shown in the collapsed position and it *is* above waist level. :-) Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 : >> Al, >> OK I'll bite....what's the structure out in front of the user for? >> Curt > > Shoulder carrying frame. The lump is behind the operator. > > Peter From alharris44 at gmail.com Tue May 20 14:15:15 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:15:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48333F63.1070907@gmail.com> How about this one: > http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/images/usedparts/air%20cleaners.jpg or the one at the very bottom below the New Donaldson Filter: > http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/newandusedparts.htm Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > We've got a pair of brand new Donaldon air cleaners for the Cat > engines. They are conventional type with the oil reservoir at the > bottom, retained by a circular clip, inlet is on the top and the > outlet to the engine is on the side. > > On most applications, these would have had a 'mushroom' header on the > inlet so that bits and pieces and rain didn't get in. Sometimes the > inlet would be taken elsewhere via a flexible hose. I recollect > vehicles in the USA having these out on the bonnet (hood) of the truck > on one side, particularly construction trucks and utility vehicles. > > We are looking for a couple of the mushroom headers, and I've tried to > find a picture or details on Donaldson's website, but they seem to > have gone over to dry filters these days. > > The filter type is very similar to ebay # 120184524839 but ours are in > better condition and boxed. > > The cap we need is something like ebay # 120215289926, but there are > also 'chamfered top' types with finning inside the cap which I think > are what we need. The pipe that the cap fits to is 2" diameter. > > If I find a decent picture, I'll post it here. > > Thanks, > > Peter From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue May 20 21:13:17 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:13:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 In-Reply-To: <20080519.213330.1316.7.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20080521041321.63CC465B447@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Ron , thanks for the great coverage as usual. They just keep on getting better! Rumor has it, it will be at Manuel's and bring a Hicks. Cya, Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:34 PM To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] California Gold #5 This past weekend was the fifth annual California Gold engine show. This year it was held at Ken McCrary's place at Davenport Ca. I have posted pictures, a couple of captions are not there yet and there may be a few names mixed up or misspelled. But check out the beautiful setting. Enjoy. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/CaliforniaGold2008 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 21 00:26:35 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:26:35 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <48333F63.1070907@gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <48333F63.1070907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805210026u3a6446e6ub74c70c14450adec@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 Al Harris : > How about this one: >> http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/images/usedparts/air%20cleaners.jpg > > or the one at the very bottom below the New Donaldson Filter: >> http://www.mccawtruckequipment.com/newandusedparts.htm > > Cheers, > Al > Hi Al: They are both too large and are for the full diameter of the filter, we need just the cap assy. Thanks for looking! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 21 00:27:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:27:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : > > Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went > away . > > If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma > can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 01:16:46 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:16:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833DA6E.5000209@gmail.com> Or a rain cap or even maybe a precleaner from here. > http://www.enginaire.com/Rain%20caps.htm Cheers, Al ps: gotta go, the rugby league is on the box soon. Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : >> Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went >> away . >> >> If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma >> can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . > > Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) > > Peter From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 01:03:33 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:03:33 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833D755.50306@gmail.com> How about this one then? 2/3rds down the page. Air Cleaner Cap - For H, Super H, W4, 300, 330, 340, 350, 404, 424, 444, 504 Gas. air Cleaner Cap 2" I.D. (R1963) (Part No: 51435DBX) > http://www.ytmag.com/store/parts/ihcat.htm Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : >> Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went >> away . >> >> If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma >> can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . > > Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) > > Peter From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 02:35:33 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:35:33 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> Last one tonight. :-) Looks OK. > http://store.craftonequipment.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=283036&id2=1563995&id3=YES&id4=craftonequipment.com Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/20 Chuck Balyeat : >> Oil baths are only good for about 85% efficiency , so that's why they went >> away . >> >> If you were my neighbor , we could whip one of those caps up before momma >> can get the water boiling , wash up , and have a spot . > > Perhaps I need to move closer? :-)) > > Peter From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 21 12:07:50 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 20:07:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805211207q40dc3081s9de51c68d851d1bb@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/21 Al Harris : > Last one tonight. :-) Looks OK. > >> http://store.craftonequipment.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=283036&id2=1563995&id3=YES&id4=craftonequipment.com > > Cheers, > Al Al: That's about perfect, just need to confirm the pipe diameter and we are off! I have emailed Crafton to see if they can confirm the pipe size on those caps. Many thanks for your time and trouble! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed May 21 16:51:22 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:51:22 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Donaldson Oil-Bath air filter 'headers' needed. In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805211207q40dc3081s9de51c68d851d1bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805201256v1500aa89t8c53267e6f8ea289@mail.gmail.com> <006101c8babe$0678ed00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> <6f6025160805210027p57f35706vfeb683ffda2b5388@mail.gmail.com> <4833ECE5.7000406@gmail.com> <6f6025160805211207q40dc3081s9de51c68d851d1bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4834B57A.5050504@gmail.com> My pleasure fellow List member. :-) I have seen pipe size adapters on some sites. Cheers, Al Listerdiesel wrote: > 2008/5/21 Al Harris : >> Last one tonight. :-) Looks OK. >> >>> http://store.craftonequipment.com/auto/detailview.php?id1=283036&id2=1563995&id3=YES&id4=craftonequipment.com >> Cheers, >> Al > > Al: > > That's about perfect, just need to confirm the pipe diameter and we are off! > > I have emailed Crafton to see if they can confirm the pipe size on those caps. > > Many thanks for your time and trouble! > > Peter From fbi at insulate.co.uk Thu May 22 12:11:32 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:11:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition Message-ID: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Hi Folks Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm Have fun! Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From fbi at insulate.co.uk Thu May 22 12:15:53 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:15:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Message-ID: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Hi Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From George_Best at adp.com Thu May 22 12:34:11 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:34:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907068DCB@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Very interesting! Might have to stop by there sometime if I'm not in too big of a hurry to get to visit another collection ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:16 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Hi Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kosh at ncweb.com Thu May 22 13:29:33 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:29:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907068DCB@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.a d.adp.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> By coincidence, I had just been looking at it in action on Youtube last night. Awesome architecture and craftsmanship. Dave Merchant At 03:34 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >Very interesting! > >Might have to stop by there sometime if I'm not in too big of a hurry to >get to visit another collection ;-) > >George > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French >Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:16 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] New Webpages > >Hi > >Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web >design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, >and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way >to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest >to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some >errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. >http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm > >Dolly >-- >Jim French >fbi at insulate.co.uk >http://www.insulate.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From oldengineman at hotmail.com Thu May 22 14:30:29 2008 From: oldengineman at hotmail.com (Peter Stauffer) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:30:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space In-Reply-To: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> References: <30507416-760C-4254-8764-16E5BA4CD347@alltel.net> Message-ID: Hi Dave, I should be in Wednesday afternoon. Looking forward to seeing you all then. Pete Stauffer > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: rotigel at alltel.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:51:29 -0400> Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Space> > Hi All,> I talked to Jake today about the SEL set-up area at Coolspring in > June. The SEL area will be in the same place that we have been in for > years--2nd row at the end near the trees. Jake tells me that we can > move in anytime after Tues. the 17th (at noon.) I'll have the SEL > sign at the near end of the 2nd row and the SEL area roped off and > signs up by the afternoon of the 17th. Please fill in from the tree > end so that we can give away any un-needed space on Friday. Thanks, > See you at Coolspring!> Dave> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_family_safety_052008 From edurand at mchsi.com Thu May 22 18:37:50 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:37:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: Dolly: Thanks for the page about that neat little pumping outfit. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jim French > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 02:16 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] New Webpages > > > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention > breaking in new web design software), I've only > just finished the first of our trip pages, and > it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked > out the best way to tackle those yet!). But it > is something which should be of interest to most > of you, as it involves a large engine! There may > well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, > please let me know. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cr > uquius.htm > > Dolly From alharris44 at gmail.com Thu May 22 13:40:12 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:40:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: <4835DA2C.50506@gmail.com> "The big one's in my left hand Dolly." :-\ Al Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > Have fun! > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu May 22 10:32:34 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:32:34 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 Message-ID: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> Out of the blue, an old engine contact emailed me the other day, asking if I knew anyone that would be interested in an old Junkers engine, or maybe I would? The seller sold me a Cub diesel some 3 years or so ago, and I remembered that he had mentioned the Junkers at the time, but that it wasn't for sale. Anyway, we have struck a deal on the engine and we will collect next month when we get the end of month frolics over at the factory (we make most of our output in the last week or so of each month) Couple of pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg Happily, we already have a parts book in multi-language form from 1941 for this very engine, and an Operator's Manual in German. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu May 22 20:46:42 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:46:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: On May 22, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) > you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > Have fun! > > Dolly Either I'm growing, or my beer mug is becoming frightfully small! From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu May 22 20:50:22 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:50:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <49F27B5F-0AEB-4A69-931F-C6495792EAE8@rustyiron.com> On May 22, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Jim French wrote: > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web > design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip > pages, and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the > best way to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be > of interest to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There > may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me > know. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm > > Dolly Holy cow! Talk about the perfect mating of fine machinery with fine architecture! From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Thu May 22 20:51:59 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:51:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: <000501c8bc88$5adbaf60$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > Either I'm growing, or my beer mug is becoming frightfully small! > > But it said "DRINK ME " From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 23 01:04:32 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:04:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> Message-ID: <6f6025160805230104w3f59a60en5361d6c8bfbd6ba8@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/22 Jim French : > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter Me? efficient? LOL! Come on, Helen, I have a reputation to think of! :-)) Nice pictures of the pumping station, there's coverage in Old Glory about 8 years ago with some aerial shots as well IIRC. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Fri May 23 03:51:05 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:51:05 +0000 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Message-ID: <052320081051.24418.4836A1990006840200005F62219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Jim & Helen, Very very interesting structure and your new website is great. thanks for sharing. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Jim French" To: Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:24:35 +0000 > Hi > > Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web design > software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, and it's not the > Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way to tackle those yet!). > But it is something which should be of interest to most of you, as it involves a > large engine! There may well be some errors, so if anything doesn't work, > please let me know. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Thu May 22 13:56:01 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:56:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> Awesome it is, pics and video both. > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tsZcLwEWr8 Cheers, Al Dave Merchant wrote: > By coincidence, I had just been looking at it in action on Youtube last night. > > Awesome architecture and craftsmanship. > > Dave Merchant > > > At 03:34 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >> Very interesting! >> >> Might have to stop by there sometime if I'm not in too big of a hurry to >> get to visit another collection ;-) >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French >> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:16 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] New Webpages >> >> Hi >> >> Not being as efficient as Peter (not to mention breaking in new web >> design software), I've only just finished the first of our trip pages, >> and it's not the Nuenen Show ones yet (haven't worked out the best way >> to tackle those yet!). But it is something which should be of interest >> to most of you, as it involves a large engine! There may well be some >> errors, so if anything doesn't work, please let me know. >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm >> >> Dolly >> -- >> Jim French >> fbi at insulate.co.uk >> http://www.insulate.co.uk >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From George_Best at adp.com Fri May 23 08:12:17 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:12:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907099BF3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, Get that Junker's running and take it to the Nuenen show next year ;-) Would love to hear it run. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:33 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 Out of the blue, an old engine contact emailed me the other day, asking if I knew anyone that would be interested in an old Junkers engine, or maybe I would? The seller sold me a Cub diesel some 3 years or so ago, and I remembered that he had mentioned the Junkers at the time, but that it wasn't for sale. Anyway, we have struck a deal on the engine and we will collect next month when we get the end of month frolics over at the factory (we make most of our output in the last week or so of each month) Couple of pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers001.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers002.jpg Happily, we already have a parts book in multi-language form from 1941 for this very engine, and an Operator's Manual in German. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri May 23 08:21:48 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:21:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is the museums web site http://www.cruquiusmuseum.nl/framesenglish.htm be sure to click on animation on the left for a step by step explanation on how it works. Very cool! Thanks for the pics, it is beautiful!!Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA> From: alharris44 at gmail.com> > Awesome it is, pics and video both.> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tsZcLwEWr8> > Cheers,> Al> > >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French> >>> >> Hi> >>> >> But it is something which should be of interest> >> to most of you, as it involves a large engine! > >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm> >>> >> Dolly> >> --> >> Jim French> >> fbi at insulate.co.uk> >> http://www.insulate.co.uk> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly _________________________________________________________________ Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause From edurand at mchsi.com Fri May 23 09:31:25 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:31:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Hello. My name ish Arnie and I'm here 'ta introduche my new lite beer. Only one schmall glash will do 'ya. 5000 proof! HIC!......Scuse me!" Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:47 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Caption Competition > > > > On May 22, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Jim French wrote: > > > Hi Folks > > > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I > that is, not Arnie!!!) > > you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions > for this picture: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > > > Have fun! > > > > Dolly > > > Either I'm growing, or my beer mug is becoming > frightfully small! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri May 23 11:12:21 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:12:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages In-Reply-To: <49F27B5F-0AEB-4A69-931F-C6495792EAE8@rustyiron.com> References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <49F27B5F-0AEB-4A69-931F-C6495792EAE8@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Thanks for all the comments on the Cruquius webpages. It really was a really memorable place. Now I've done the AFTER Nuenen pages, from our trip to Normandy http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normandy/normandy.htm I'm still adding captions! http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm Dolly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" > Holy cow! Talk about the perfect mating of fine machinery with fine > architecture! From MBellar at aol.com Fri May 23 12:17:47 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:17:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition Message-ID: Priming cup Tom Bellar **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 23 10:45:31 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:45:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers HK65 Twin Cylinder 1936 In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907099BF3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6f6025160805221032m376b1c4dt5a5f9d9724968e0c@mail.gmail.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105907099BF3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805231045o56f8d2casa3e8d317d209b0d5@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/23 Best, George : > Peter, > > Get that Junker's running and take it to the Nuenen show next year ;-) > > Would love to hear it run. > > George > There is a scheme forming.... :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rskinner at rustyiron.com Fri May 23 15:38:01 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:38:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> One beer makes you larger Then the beer gets really small And your beloved mother Don't give you any beer at all Go ask Arnie When he's ten feet tall From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri May 23 15:54:41 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:54:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Webpages Message-ID: <410-22008552322544193@earthlink.net> That is very fascinating. The building in itself is a must see. Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri May 23 15:59:17 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:59:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition References: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> You are the man! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Caption Competition > One beer makes you larger > Then the beer gets really small > And your beloved mother > Don't give you any beer at all > Go ask Arnie > When he's ten feet tall > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at btes.tv Fri May 23 16:58:03 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:58:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <5ab161b2a9241480035a298e5b23ee0c@btes.tv> Right on! On May 23, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > You are the man! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Skinner" > >> One beer makes you larger >> Then the beer gets really small >> And your beloved mother >> Don't give you any beer at all >> Go ask Arnie >> When he's ten feet tall John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri May 23 17:23:14 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:23:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition References: <7B7334FE-7C1C-47D3-85A8-06CECC72922B@rustyiron.com> <010701c8bd28$a114de20$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <001d01c8bd34$5ba99a90$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I cant wait'll they get to the logc and proportion falling sloppy dead part From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri May 23 22:53:29 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:53:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Steam and Machinery Museum Display Pics Message-ID: <20080524055325.PCTX1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Finally got a chance to sort out the pictures :) http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay081.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca Fri May 23 12:46:20 2008 From: buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca (Denis Rouleau) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:46:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?Spam=3E_Julien_Gasoline_Engine=2E?= References: <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <682CC613A8C848CF871DCB808CA76D7A@FBI> <5.2.0.9.0.20080522162815.04359eb0@ncweb.com> <4835DDE1.20106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c8bd0d$acdc1c70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Here is the story surrounding my latest engine acquisition, a JULIEN! http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/julien/page124.html Denis Rouleau From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Sat May 24 05:21:34 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:21:34 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> References: <0ED9EF5E7EFF49C9BA9A2586D067DF89@FBI> Message-ID: <4838084E.7060004@optusnet.com.au> Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > Have fun! > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > === "Here's to you in one small beer, Wishing it were wine. Here's to you and your Sweetheart, Not forgetting mine" JW? === From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat May 24 05:58:34 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:58:34 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Caption Competition Message-ID: <052420081258.575.483810FA000041180000023F219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Here's my two cents worth..... " A little beer a day will keep the doctor away"! Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: Jack Watson To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Caption Competition Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:32:41 +0000 > Jim French wrote: > > Hi Folks > > > > Just for a bit of fun, we thought (Jim and I that is, not Arnie!!!) you folks > would enjoy thinking up some captions for this picture: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/caption.htm > > > > Have fun! > > > > Dolly > > -- > > Jim French > > fbi at insulate.co.uk > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > === > "Here's to you in one small beer, > Wishing it were wine. > Here's to you and your Sweetheart, > Not forgetting mine" > > JW? > === > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat May 24 23:13:17 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:13:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Engine information Message-ID: <20080524.231318.1904.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. A friend of mine just obtained this engine and would like some information. Does anyone have a manual or anything that would help him get it running, they are willing to share? Thanks. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193079912969330 http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193178697217154 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 01:10:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:10:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany Message-ID: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> Anton Van Der Cruijsen (one of the organisers of the Nuenen Rally) went across the border into Germany for a rally yesterday, and he took some pictures of a superb Junkers 2HK65 (same as our engine) which he emailed this morning. Pictures are at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermanyRed.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany2Red.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany3Red.jpg It is a later engine than our own, and has electric starter (not fitted but the mounting is there) vertical dynamo, driven off the drive for the governor and fuel pumps and a lot of fittings which we can relate to when we do our own engine. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 04:09:41 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:09:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Caterpillar 1Y73, Dynamometer and Trolley Message-ID: <6f6025160805250409k2ee35fa6ga0283aa58ce436f4@mail.gmail.com> We have pulled all the Caterpillar trolley construction stuff into a new page on the websites, following on from the main Caterpillar section: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu4.htm or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu4.htm There are 28 pages in total that are accessed from the menu page. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Sun May 25 05:04:13 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cam grundy) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:04:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Steam and Machinery Museum Display Pics In-Reply-To: <20080524055325.PCTX1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080524055325.PCTX1995.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000001c8be5f$7330fce0$5992f6a0$@com.au> Hi Patrick, thanks a million for pics Mate. Cheers Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick M Livingstone Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 3:53 PM To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Steam and Machinery Museum Display Pics Finally got a chance to sort out the pictures :) http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay081.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 07:45:54 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:45:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: I'm constantly surprised by the many different types of engine layouts there are. At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel engines are 2-cycle. Most folks think two cycle engines are gasoline mix fuelled and only on weed eaters and a few lawn mowers. Then there are opposed piston engines. People are boggled by the fact that there are so many of them out there. The Junkers 2HK65 type of O.P. engine with only one crankshaft is a variation on the F-M O.P. engines with two crankshafts and the list goes on. Air cooled radial aircraft Diesels are another surprise. When I tell some people about them, they think I'm bs'ing them until they see a photo of a Guiberson or Packard radial Diesel. And the list goes on. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:11 AM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine > Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany > > > Anton Van Der Cruijsen (one of the organisers of > the Nuenen Rally) > went across the border into Germany for a rally > yesterday, and he took > some pictures of a superb Junkers 2HK65 (same as > our engine) which he > emailed this morning. > > Pictures are at: > > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/Junkers GermanyRed.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany2Red.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Junkers/JunkersGermany3Red.jpg It is a later engine than our own, and has electric starter (not fitted but the mounting is there) vertical dynamo, driven off the drive for the governor and fuel pumps and a lot of fittings which we can relate to when we do our own engine. Peter From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun May 25 08:25:39 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:25:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany References: Message-ID: <001501c8be7b$9acde9e0$25c20b52@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany > Peter: > I'm constantly surprised by the many different types of engine layouts there are. > At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel engines are 2-cycle. > Most folks think two cycle engines are gasoline mix fuelled and only on weed eaters and a few lawn mowers. > Then there are opposed piston engines. People are boggled by the fact that there are so many of them out there. The Junkers > 2HK65 type of O.P. engine with only one crankshaft is a variation on the F-M O.P. engines with two crankshafts and the list goes > on. > Air cooled radial aircraft Diesels are another surprise. When I tell some people about them, they think I'm bs'ing them until > they see a photo of a Guiberson or Packard radial Diesel. > And the list goes on. > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Eldon,The boat and Loco engine that I love is the Deltic. I don't suppose the low pollution people would like the exhaust though! See Deltic on Google & UTube. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 12:57:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:57:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: References: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805251257x7db469c0n4aeb0467dd5a9533@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > Peter: > > I'm constantly surprised by the many different types of engine layouts there are. > > At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel engines are 2-cycle. Most folks think two cycle engines are gasoline mix fuelled and only on weed eaters and a few lawn mowers. > > Then there are opposed piston engines. People are boggled by the fact that there are so many of them out there. The Junkers 2HK65 type of O.P. engine with only one crankshaft is a variation on the F-M O.P. engines with two crankshafts and the list goes on. > > Air cooled radial aircraft Diesels are another surprise. When I tell some people about them, they think I'm bs'ing them until they see a photo of a Guiberson or Packard radial Diesel. > > And the list goes on. > > Take care - Elden I believe that the Junkers patents may pre-date the F-M engines by some years, and that licencing was carried out all over the world prior to WW2 by Junkers. Junkers had twin-crank flat-12 diesels in aircraft prior and during WW2. If you take out automotive engines, most horse-power these days is probably generated by two-stroke engines of one type or another, especially if you take into consideration the very large marine diesels. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sun May 25 13:38:56 2008 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:38:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] locomotive Diesel engines Message-ID: Hi, Elden, Two-sroke railroad locomotive prime movers are becoming a thing of the past. The polution police don't like them any more than they would a Deltic.Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SDsluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Sun May 25 13:43:33 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:43:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany References: <6f6025160805250110w72ff7f74ie224b817d8c5ef15@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160805251257x7db469c0n4aeb0467dd5a9533@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <016101c8bea8$017001c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > At shows and in talking to the average gearheads, I find > that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel > engines are 2-cycle The dominant maker of US locomotives is GE and they are 4 cycle and have been since they started. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net . From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 15:23:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:23:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <001501c8be7b$9acde9e0$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: Dave: I came across the Deltic a year or so ago. Talk about complicated!!!! AND here's Zontar in a couple of videos of Deltics. The first one shows a Deltic that has had a minor mechanical problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh4MBa1bk4w and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXvt25qFxB0 and here are some starting and running videos. I think the EPA would have aminor hissie-fit if they saw one of these! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG91fYHcm-k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8b8S4q8F8I&feature=related Question: The people taking these videos talk about "Clagging". Is this another word for smoking? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Dave Croft > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:26 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > .........................snip........................................ > Hi Eldon,The boat and Loco engine that I love is > the Deltic. > I don't suppose the low pollution people would > like the exhaust though! > See Deltic on Google & UTube. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 15:27:35 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:27:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805251257x7db469c0n4aeb0467dd5a9533@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: I can believe that 2-stroke Diesels make the majority of the industrial power in the world. I wonder exactly when F-M started manufacturing their O.P. engines? I believe they were used in U.S. WWII naval shipping and subs. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 02:57 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > I believe that the Junkers patents may pre-date > the F-M engines by > some years, and that licencing was carried out > all over the world > prior to WW2 by Junkers. Junkers had twin-crank > flat-12 diesels in > aircraft prior and during WW2. > > If you take out automotive engines, most > horse-power these days is > probably generated by two-stroke engines of one > type or another, > especially if you take into consideration the > very large marine > diesels. > > Peter From edurand at mchsi.com Sun May 25 15:30:59 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:30:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <016101c8bea8$017001c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: Jim: Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. Electromotives. I also thought they were two cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, boat and heavy equipment engines. Have I been wrong all this time? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Kirkes > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:44 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > > > > At shows and in talking to the average > gearheads, I find > > that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel > > engines are 2-cycle > > The dominant maker of US locomotives is GE and they are 4 > cycle and have been since they started. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, California U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Sun May 25 15:50:36 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:50:36 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 (now loco engines) References: Message-ID: <01d501c8beb9$bf7d0d50$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Hi Elden, No, I don't think you have been all wrong. Some railroads have favored GE and some EMD. The big 6 buy a lot of both with Union Pacific ordering 1000 4000 HP diesels from EMD. In spite of that GE out sells EMD by a wide margin. EMD still makes two cycle diesels and they do meet current emision standards. The two cycle engines have some advantages in that they load faster. Ttheir big draw back is that they are 16 cyl engines and the GE engines are 12 cylinder so the 16 cyl overhaul cost is considerably more. Maybe not a big deal for one engine but if you have a couple of thousand it stacks up fast. Fuel economy has been a big issue for a long time and EMD has managed to stay in there with the two cycle design. BTW the latest development in loco design is the "gen set" loco which are becoming popular for yard use. The loco has 3 or 4 700 HP diesels, they come on and off as the load changes and stop completely if not used for 10 minutes or so. The fuel saving is claimed to be 60% over a one diesel loco. This big saving comes because most diesels in yard service do not operate at full power much of the time. At full power for long hauls the single engine is the better arrangement. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany Jim: Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. Electromotives. I also thought they were two cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, boat and heavy equipment engines. Have I been wrong all this time? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Kirkes > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:44 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > > > > At shows and in talking to the average > gearheads, I find > > that most of them don't know that locomotive Diesel > > engines are 2-cycle > > The dominant maker of US locomotives is GE and they are 4 > cycle and have been since they started. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, California U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1465 - Release Date: 5/25/2008 1:22 PM From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun May 25 18:53:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:53:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: References: <016101c8bea8$017001c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <6f6025160805251853t28b5e3fw16f40a3290114a7a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > Jim: > > Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. Electromotives. I also thought they were two cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, boat and heavy equipment engines. > > Have I been wrong all this time? > > Take care - Elden I don't think so, GM / EMD are solidly 2-cycle, but Jim may have seen 4-valves per cylinder head and assumed that it was 4-cycle? Most big modern two-cycle engines are configured this way, with a scavenging blower, which is also partly supercharger, although turbochargers are on the modern units. There's a bit here that might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-Motive_Diesel#Introduction_of_the_645_engine Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kimmell at verizon.net Mon May 26 06:34:09 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:34:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: References: <001501c8be7b$9acde9e0$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: <0K1H00FDV9DNT6CP@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> I've often heard clag used in place of smoke. Must be a British thing... -Tony At 05:23 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote: >Question: The people taking these videos talk about "Clagging". Is >this another word for smoking? From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Mon May 26 09:48:51 2008 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:48:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Locomotive diesels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From Wiki: In 1998, EMD introduced the four-stroke 265H-Engine. Instead of completely replacing the 710 series engine, the H-Engine continues to be concurrently produced with the 710. 2004 saw CSX take order of the first SD70ACe locomotives that are designed to be more reliable, fuel efficient, and maintainable than its predecessor AC locomotive the SD70MAC. This model also meets the stringent EPA Tier 2 emission requirements using the tried and true 2-stroke 710 diesel engine. EMD has produced the following series of engines: EMD 567 ? no longer in production. EMD 645 ? no longer in production. EMD 710 ? currently in production. EMD 265 ? "H-Engine"; currently in production. The 567, 645, and 710 engine series is 2 cycle; the number refers to the displacement per cylinder. They have come in 8, 12, 16, and 20 cylinder versions that I know of. The early 20's had a problem breaking cranks. The 265 refers to the bore in MM. More than nyone needs to know: http://www.sdrm.org/roster/diesel/emd/history/ http://www.emdiesels.com/lms/en/locomotive/innovations/engine/Hengine/index.htm So, I guess everyone is partially correct.Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SDsluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From edurand at mchsi.com Tue May 27 07:35:00 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:35:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine rally in Germany In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805251853t28b5e3fw16f40a3290114a7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, all, for the education. I lurn somepin' ever day seemslike! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 08:54 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Junkers 2HK65 at an engine > rally in Germany > > > 2008/5/25 Elden DuRand : > > Jim: > > > > Now, THAT's interesting! A number of years > ago, I toured the CSX overhaul facility in > Louisville, KY (before they moved it somewhere > else). I believe the engines were V-16 G.M. > Electromotives. I also thought they were two > cycle because GM was big in 2-cycle truck, bus, > boat and heavy equipment engines. > > > > Have I been wrong all this time? > > > > Take care - Elden > > I don't think so, GM / EMD are solidly 2-cycle, > but Jim may have seen > 4-valves per cylinder head and assumed that it > was 4-cycle? > > Most big modern two-cycle engines are configured > this way, with a > scavenging blower, which is also partly > supercharger, although > turbochargers are on the modern units. > > There's a bit here that might help: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-Motive_Diesel #Introduction_of_the_645_engine Peter From flywheelin at hotmail.com Tue May 27 11:05:00 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:05:00 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb Message-ID: I'm hoping someone can tell me what kind of engine this carb would be for. It was in a box of stuff I picked up at an auction sale. It has the IHC logo in the casting along with some numbers. It has two needle valves along with a finger operated choke plate. See the seven pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-390f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-391f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-392f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-393f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-394f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-395f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-396f.jpg Any ideas? Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From frappi at wcoil.com Tue May 27 11:36:30 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:36:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080527143611.02fd6180@pop3.wcoil.com> Tom Thumb isn't it? Mark At 02:05 PM 5/27/08, you wrote: >I'm hoping someone can tell me what kind of engine this carb would be for. >It was in a box of stuff I picked up at an auction sale. It has the IHC >logo in the casting along with some numbers. It has two needle valves >along with a finger operated choke plate. See the seven pictures here: > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-390f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-391f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-392f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-393f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-394f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-395f.jpg > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-396f.jpg > >Any ideas? > >Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA >_________________________________________________________________ >E-mail for the greater good. Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft. >http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue May 27 12:37:57 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:37:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb References: Message-ID: <002301c8c031$2e37d2c0$25c20b52@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "Engine List" Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: [SEL] Identify IHC Carb I'm hoping someone can tell me what kind of engine this carb would be for. It was in a box of stuff I picked up at an auction sale. It has the IHC logo in the casting along with some numbers. It has two needle valves along with a finger operated choke plate. See the seven pictures here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-390f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-391f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-392f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-393f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-394f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-395f.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp1/mvc-396f.jpg Any ideas? Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA _________________________________________________________________ Hi Luke, It doesn't look like a Tom Thumb to me! I have a plan of a TT at http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1264728133028520097iTGRrO I only remember one needle valve on mine. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 17:49:14 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:49:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> I cant send messages. From buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca Tue May 27 18:05:47 2008 From: buzzcoil2 at videotron.ca (Denis Rouleau) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:05:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> I can't send messages either! ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Watts To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: [SEL] Test I cant send messages. From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:12:21 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:12:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone Update Message-ID: <00bc01c8c05f$e1b7bbc0$f3bc693a@fred> We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make hotbulb & inspirator, new photos on Webshots. Brian Watts briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:17:54 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:17:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Vertical Blackstone Update Message-ID: <00fe01c8c060$a8313650$f3bc693a@fred> ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Watts To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Vertical Blackstone Update We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make hotbulb & inspirator, new photos on Webshots. Brian Watts briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue May 27 18:00:00 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:00:00 EDT Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: Received here at 5:56PM PST In a message dated 5/27/2008 5:58:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, briwatt at optusnet.com.au writes: I cant send messages. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From langer5 at sympatico.ca Tue May 27 18:22:53 2008 From: langer5 at sympatico.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:22:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> <000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Message-ID: Your coming through loud and clear here in southern Ontario. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Rouleau" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Test >I can't send messages either! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Watts > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: [SEL] Test > > > I cant send messages. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Tue May 27 19:11:27 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:11:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <001901c8c068$27632580$0300a8c0@sheeba> Oh, ok. Guess you didn't send this, then -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Watts Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Test I cant send messages. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed May 28 01:58:04 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:58:04 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805280158l23d91070gdcd7432f26b7e982@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/17 Listerdiesel : > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial > 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx. We have rolled all the pictures etc up into one new section on the websites: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanMenu4.htm or at http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanMenu4.htm There are 32 picture pages with the usual thumbnail menu. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From nancydick at pennswoods.net Wed May 28 06:12:57 2008 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:12:57 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <20080528101259.BB08C229E78@md5.pennswoods.net> That is an awful feeling Brian. But it made it to PA R Fink At 10:49 AM 5/28/2008 +1000, you wrote: >I cant send messages. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release Date: >5/26/2008 3:23 PM From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed May 28 03:31:31 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:31:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material Message-ID: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and where I could get some in Oz? I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not be available anymore :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From russell at ncable.com.au Wed May 28 04:05:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:05:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080528210436.02093608@ncable.com.au> Brian I recon your messages must only come to specail people! I got it. your blacky looks nice BTW What is the rest of the caption on the blackstone sign in your shed pics? Russell At 10:49 AM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >I cant send messages. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rotigel at alltel.net Wed May 28 05:37:29 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material In-Reply-To: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: Patrick, How big a piece do you need and how soon do you need it? Dave On May 28, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Patrick M Livingstone wrote: > Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets > and > where I could get some in Oz? > I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems > to not be > available anymore :( > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Wed May 28 07:17:52 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:17:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Message-ID: I didn't get that. Very faint. ......could you repeat it. > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Denis > Rouleau > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 08:06 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > > > I can't send messages either! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Watts > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: [SEL] Test > > > I cant send messages. From rmedihc at aol.com Wed May 28 09:35:04 2008 From: rmedihc at aol.com (rmedihc at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:35:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb Message-ID: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed May 28 09:54:31 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:54:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb In-Reply-To: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <483D8E47.4050705@scrtc.com> I thought the same thing but wasn't for sure. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From George_Best at adp.com Wed May 28 09:57:07 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:57:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine information In-Reply-To: <20080524.231318.1904.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20080524.231318.1904.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E6401059071232BA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Ron, Checked my German book and about all I can tell you is that engine is probably built after 1946. The book has a 1946 Model DM15 which is similar to the one you have pictures for, but your pictures are for a DM15N and with a higher serial number than the one in the book. I don't know what the differences are between a DM15 and a DM15N, other than the obvious differences of slightly different rpms and hp range. Don't have any starting information. But I'm guessing they start easy once you know the secret ;-) Can't tell you much else. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:13 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Engine information Hi all. A friend of mine just obtained this engine and would like some information. Does anyone have a manual or anything that would help him get it running, they are willing to share? Thanks. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193079912969330 http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/NewToys/photo#5204193178697217154 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From MBellar at aol.com Wed May 28 13:05:09 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:05:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed Message-ID: I have found a reproduction cart handle to complete my Famous vertical restoration. The reproduction can be picked up at the Coolspring show, but I need to find transportation from Coolspring to within an hour drive of Cincinnati, OH. Apparently the handle is too bulky to ship. I am a sole care provider for my wife and can only get away for about 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00 on Mon, Wed, or Fridays so connection on this end could be a problem. I would be very thankful if any of the List members could help out. Contact me off List Tom Bellar about 26 miles East of Cincinnati **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From russell at ncable.com.au Wed May 28 14:57:53 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:57:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material In-Reply-To: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080529075600.022f5830@ncable.com.au> Patrick I recently purchased good size sheet through Repco, was about 500x350mm, it was the re-enforced gear with the thin metal sheet through the middle of the gasket material. Try a local store and see how you go. Russell At 08:31 PM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and >where I could get some in Oz? >I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not be >available anymore :( > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From gastzt at aol.com Wed May 28 15:11:54 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:11:54 EDT Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material Message-ID: That is GREAT head gasket stuff---I used it on a 8hp Stover--- works like a charm! Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Tx USA **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From frappi at wcoil.com Wed May 28 15:15:45 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:15:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Jefferson Electric Coil. Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080528180341.02f0bab0@pop3.wcoil.com> Hello All, I was hoping to get some info as to the useage of this coil with pic links below. Is it a spark coil for engines or some other use? Its only Marking other then the Jefferson Electric Mfg. Co Chicago Ill. brass tag is A 403 6 volts on the metal base and A 403 COIL on the paper? wrap of the windings. It stands about 6" tall overall. I thought it was a gas engine ignition coil at first but I am having some doubts about that now. Can anyone provide any info? I didn't know there was a web site on Jefferson Electric till I went looking for info to identify the useage of this coil. Someone probably has it book marked on one of the many members links pages but Check out http://www.roger-russell.com/jeffers/jeffers.htm Then see the coil I am asking about . TTYL, Mark http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec1.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec2.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec3.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec4.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec5.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec6.jpg Thank You, Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, Ohio Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Home #419.358.5206 From gastzt at aol.com Wed May 28 16:02:55 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:02:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed Message-ID: Gosh Tom! If I was anyplace close to there I would be GLAD to help! We just went to Ohio (Malta) to get an old '52 Dodge 1-ton truck! (on flatbed trailer)---Gonna use it to haul my old 8hp Stover in! Sure enjoyed the trip! Lotsa' miles! Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Texas take care now and say hi to wife! **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Wed May 28 16:19:44 2008 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:19:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Jefferson Electric Coil. In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080528180341.02f0bab0@pop3.wcoil.com> References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080528180341.02f0bab0@pop3.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <483DE890.5060702@accnorwalk.com> Mark, Looks like a coil from a light plant to me. Seems my Genco plant has a coil similar to that. Is there a resistor wire under the cap for bringing 32v down to 6?? Doug Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hello All, > I was hoping to get some info as to the useage of this coil with pic > links below. Is it a spark coil for engines or some other use? Its > only Marking other then the Jefferson Electric Mfg. Co Chicago Ill. > brass tag is A 403 6 volts on the metal base and A 403 COIL on the > paper? wrap of the windings. It stands about 6" tall overall. I > thought it was a gas engine ignition coil at first but I am having > some doubts about that now. > Can anyone provide any info? > I didn't know there was a web site on Jefferson Electric till I went > looking for info to identify the useage of this coil. Someone probably > has it book marked on one of the many members links pages but Check out > http://www.roger-russell.com/jeffers/jeffers.htm > > Then see the coil I am asking about . TTYL, Mark > > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec1.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec2.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec3.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec4.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec5.jpg > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/jec6.jpg > > Thank You, Mark > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, Ohio > Email: Frappi at wcoil.com > Home #419.358.5206 > > > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > From johnculp at btes.tv Wed May 28 19:25:30 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:25:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom, please let us know your secret for getting in 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00. I could use all the help I can get with that! :-D My sympathies to you and your wife. John On May 28, 2008, at 4:05 PM, MBellar at aol.com wrote: > ...can only get away for about 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00... John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Sat May 24 23:15:37 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:15:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone Message-ID: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> IWe have added some more photos on the progress on the Vert. Lamp start Blackstone. Photos on webshots site below. David Watts (03) 87616332 damewatt at bigpond.com Brian Watts (03) 97266147 briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 01:43:42 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:43:42 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone In-Reply-To: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> References: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> Message-ID: <9CB76F78A8A54EE599D97986FFFA2F6B@KerryPC> G'Day Brian / David Great job you have been doing to the Blacky, well done What is the brass like finish to the metal work Kerry > IWe have added some more photos on the progress on the Vert. Lamp start > Blackstone. > Photos on webshots site below. > > David Watts (03) 87616332 > damewatt at bigpond.com > > Brian Watts (03) 97266147 > briwatt at optusnet.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu May 29 01:59:21 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 04:59:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" References: Message-ID: <003101c8c16a$490b9890$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> Reminiscent of the Tod Engine Project of twelve years ago ( has it been THAT LONG!) I now again find myself deep in the bowels of a steel mill wrestling with parts from another of Mr. William Tod's creations. This time, instead of saving an entire 260 ton cross compound rolling mill engine, I am trying to save a few parts from an even larger 1000 ton twin tandem compound reversing engine before it goes to scrap. I have posted to Harry's Old Engine with a bit more info. and a few pictures of this engine. http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=306522#post306522 Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu May 29 04:25:00 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:25:00 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" References: <003101c8c16a$490b9890$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <01f801c8c17e$a3f48410$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Hey Rick, you are something else!! I really take my hat off to you for your drive and ability to bite such a big chunk off. I wish I had left, a fraction of what drives you. I sit back and just admire your spirit these days. Please keep us all informed on the outcome. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" > Reminiscent of the Tod Engine Project of twelve years ago ( has it been > THAT > LONG!) I now again find myself deep in the bowels of a steel mill > wrestling > with parts from another of Mr. William Tod's creations. > > This time, instead of saving an entire 260 ton cross compound rolling mill > engine, I am trying to save a few parts from an even larger 1000 ton twin > tandem compound reversing engine before it goes to scrap. > > I have posted to Harry's Old Engine with a bit more info. and a few > pictures > of this engine. > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=306522#post306522 > > Rick Rowlands > Executive Director > Tod Engine Foundation > "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" > 2261 Hubbard Road > Youngstown, OH 44505 > 330-272-4089 > www.todengine.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From MBellar at aol.com Thu May 29 06:53:56 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:53:56 EDT Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed Message-ID: In a message dated 5/28/2008 10:28:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johnculp at btes.tv writes: Tom, please let us know your secret for getting in 3 hours between 10:00 and 12:00. I could use all the help I can get with that! :-D List Members; Many thanks for all the offers and suggestions. I think that I can contact a local old iron person to get the help I need. John: Time warp??? It is simple but not apparent. My wife goes to Senior Services three days a week and I must be home by 3:00 PM to resume my responsibilities. Senior Services is a God send for me, but I don't think you meet their minimum specifications to qualify an additional hour added to the day. Tom Bellar **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu May 29 10:45:40 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:45:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb In-Reply-To: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the replies on and off list. I found these pictures and it does appear to be for a kerosene burning 1hp Titan Jr. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/jr.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/ihctitanjr.jpgLuke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA =========================> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:35:04 -0400> From: rmedihc at aol.com> Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb> > I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu May 29 10:52:50 2008 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:52:50 +0000 Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb In-Reply-To: References: <8CA8EF7EAEC39D0-C10-FFB@FWM-M12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Sorry about the messed up links, don't know why my messages are all squished together........ http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/jr.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/ihctitanjr.jpg Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA> From: flywheelin at hotmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:45:40 +0000> Subject: Re: [SEL] IHC Carb> > > Thanks for the replies on and off list. I found these pictures and it does appear to be for a kerosene burning 1hp Titan Jr.> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/jr.jpg> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/ihctitanjr.jpg Luke Tonneberger> Rockford, Michigan> USA> =========================> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:35:04 -0400> From: rmedihc at aol.com> Subject: [SEL] IHC Carb> > I think the carb is a kekrosene carb for the 1 HP Titan Jr. _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu May 29 14:06:50 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:06:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" References: <003101c8c16a$490b9890$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> <01f801c8c17e$a3f48410$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <007401c8c1cf$ea1bf170$0401a8c0@PC126411058289> Thanks Reg. I just can't help but love these big engines, and I do what I can to save what I can. But the one who deserves the good words is my wife, who tolerates my big iron obsession! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & M Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" > Hey Rick, you are something else!! I really take my hat off to you for > your > drive and ability to bite such a big chunk off. > I wish I had left, a fraction of what drives you. > I sit back and just admire your spirit these days. > Please keep us all informed on the outcome. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM > Subject: [SEL] Another "Tod Engine Project" > > >> Reminiscent of the Tod Engine Project of twelve years ago ( has it been >> THAT >> LONG!) I now again find myself deep in the bowels of a steel mill >> wrestling >> with parts from another of Mr. William Tod's creations. >> >> This time, instead of saving an entire 260 ton cross compound rolling >> mill >> engine, I am trying to save a few parts from an even larger 1000 ton twin >> tandem compound reversing engine before it goes to scrap. >> >> I have posted to Harry's Old Engine with a bit more info. and a few >> pictures >> of this engine. >> >> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?p=306522#post306522 >> >> Rick Rowlands >> Executive Director >> Tod Engine Foundation >> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" >> 2261 Hubbard Road >> Youngstown, OH 44505 >> 330-272-4089 >> www.todengine.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 17:48:13 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:48:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Vertical Blackstone Message-ID: <004b01c8c05c$849b8cd0$f3bc693a@fred> Subject: Vertical Blackstone We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make ,hotbulb & inspirator.photos on webshots. Brian Watts . http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 16:25:59 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:25:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <008a01c8c051$063bde90$f3bc693a@fred> Test From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Mon May 26 21:05:11 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:05:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cant send to list? Message-ID: <001701c8bfae$dd572630$f3bc693a@fred> Test From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 17:59:12 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:59:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Vertical Blackstone Message-ID: <008d01c8c05e$0badd6a0$f3bc693a@fred> ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Watts To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Fw: Vertical Blackstone Subject: Vertical Blackstone We are making progress on the little Blackstone,still have to make ,hotbulb & inspirator.photos on webshots. Brian Watts . http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu May 29 16:18:20 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <008a01c8c051$063bde90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <02ad01c8c1e2$48cb6cc0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Hi Brian, I was completely unable to recieve your test message, could you send it again? Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Watts" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: [SEL] Test Test From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 16:22:29 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:22:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test ? Sorry ! Message-ID: <007801c8c1e2$ddb8e1f0$f3bc693a@fred> Sorry about the Test emails, I had a problem in my computer, I don`t know what happened, today I started getting back all my emails that that I sent 2 days ago. Brian. From johnculp at btes.tv Thu May 29 16:49:36 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:49:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Iron transportation help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shucks! Thanks, Tom! :-) John On May 29, 2008, at 9:53 AM, MBellar at aol.com wrote: > John: > > Time warp??? It is simple but not apparent. My wife goes to Senior > Services > three days a week and I must be home by 3:00 PM to resume my > responsibilities. Senior Services is a God send for me, but I don't > think you meet their > minimum specifications to qualify an additional hour added to the day. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 17:42:46 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:42:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test ? Sorry ! In-Reply-To: <007801c8c1e2$ddb8e1f0$f3bc693a@fred> References: <007801c8c1e2$ddb8e1f0$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <5FAAC74A1431475492E14F06B004EBF8@KerryPC> G'Day Brian You will find that the problem is that Spencer's (SEL) virus protection blacklists Optusnet, been through this, they usually come through up to 48 hrs later but sometimes nearly straight away. I have spoken to Optusnet not their problem and Spencer can operate the list the way he wants, has not been a problem lately but two of my replies about your Blackstone never came through at all. The last time I was having major delays I sent to list using Yahoo. Cannot believe that Optusnet is a problem and Yahoo is not with all the crap I get on Yahoo Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz Sent 10.40 am 30th May > Sorry about the Test emails, I had a problem in my computer, I don`t know > what happened, today I started getting back all my emails that that I sent > 2 days ago. > Brian. From jlb94 at juno.com Thu May 29 18:06:34 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Steam engine looking for good home Message-ID: <20080529.210655.1196.5.jlb94@juno.com> Hey List - I received this e-mail today. Anyone interested ??? THere were 4 pics attached. If interested in the pics - e-mail me and I will send them to your e-mail. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " Buckle up and cut back ten". ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Don Albacker" To: Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:43 -0400 Subject: Steam engine looking for good home Message-ID: <000001c8c1eb$b2e61e80$18b25b80$@com> Dear Sir, I am the executor for the estate of Ben Roseberry. He was a Steam Train person and built a locomotive and 1 ? cars before passing away. Someone in your club may have corresponded with Ben. I know he went to several Tri-state Historical Steam Engine reunions. A) I am selling the train and track, etc. The description is below and picture of the locomotive is attached. I ask that you please forward this to your membership to see if there is interest. B) Also because of PA Estate Tax rules I have to have the train appraised. Can you provide any names of appraisers? The train is in Green County, PA, the SW corner of PA. I assume the appraiser has to be licensed in some way. Perhaps you can educate me on that. C) I am not clear if you are in the Tri-state group or not. Can you direct me to one of that organizations officers. I really appreciate any help or direction you can provide. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- R.S.Corp. C.P. 173 4-4-0, 1?? scale, 7?? gauge, coal or propane fired, box car w/propane tank, Brass Lantern Bobber Caboose (L.S. 1979) approx. ? complete, 650? new aluminum rail and 280? ground level track, 2 switches, 2 crossovers, rail bender, track gauges, other material and equipment, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Don Albacker J&J Wealth Advisors, LLC 41 University Drive, Suite 400, Newtown, PA 18940 2001 Route 46, Suite 310, Parsippany, NJ 07054 877-772-3744 www.jjwealthadv.com Securities offered through Royal Alliance Associates, Inc. Member FINRA & SIPC Advisory Services offered through Investment Advisors Asset Management, LLC, a registered investment advisor. ____________________________________________________________ Bills adding up? Click here for free information on payday loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m3aOCxEL3ViJpAg2Z10JPKmT2Upo6KebXAyVsGVDVHr7Ckd/ From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri May 30 01:30:44 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:30:44 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material In-Reply-To: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <20080530083041.JPPF1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Today I found a Repco with a slightly more knowledgeable staff member. They did not have any in their store but got some in for me. Now I can make some head gaskets!!! Thanks to all those who offered to send me material to make gaskets. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and where I could get some in Oz? I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not be available anymore :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Fri May 30 20:04:54 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello from Japan, especially to English contingent on the list. Some years ago, one of the lads (perhaps John Palmer ?? ) sent me a 15 x 24cm National Gas Engine Co. Ltd. Catalogue, which I subsequently loaned to a buddy (??) for copying. It was not returned in tact. I want to get another. Inside the front cover is the following info ( which does nor elicit a response from Google Search ): 1977 Eng-Trac Publications ISBN 0 906113 02 4 Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. Holme on Spalding Moor, York Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Or another source for copy of National Catalogue circa 1902? Thanks, Bill Bill Young wmlyoung at yahoo.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri May 30 21:20:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 05:20:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805302120u56092624i287201cad7b44d6a@mail.gmail.com> Bill: That ISBN is coming up as an invalid number, even with the extra spaces removed. Peter On 31/05/2008, William Young wrote: > Hello from Japan, especially to English contingent on the list. > Some years ago, one of the lads (perhaps John Palmer ?? ) sent me a 15 x > 24cm > National Gas Engine Co. Ltd. Catalogue, which I subsequently loaned to a > buddy (??) for copying. It was not returned in tact. I want to get > another. > Inside the front cover is the following info ( which does nor elicit a > response from Google Search ): 1977 Eng-Trac Publications ISBN 0 906113 > 02 4 > Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. > Holme on Spalding Moor, York > > Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Or another source for copy of National > Catalogue > circa 1902? Thanks, Bill > > Bill Young > wmlyoung at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Wed May 28 15:59:15 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Caption. References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> <7.0.1.0.1.20080528210436.02093608@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <00c201c8c116$7426a4b0$f3bc693a@fred> Hi Russell, We wanted a sign for our shed,too dear to buy ,so we made our own. briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > Brian I recon your messages must only come to specail people! I got it. > your blacky looks nice BTW > > What is the rest of the caption on the blackstone sign in your shed pics? > Russell > > At 10:49 AM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>I cant send messages. >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 27/05/2008 1:25 PM From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:15:07 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:15:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred> Message-ID: <6FF1692B72404BF4BF12D1D9D54DE0D3@KerryPC> G'Day Brian You sent that one OK Kerry >I cant send messages. > _______________________________________________ > From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Tue May 27 18:52:19 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:52:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test References: <005201c8c05c$a7abfd90$f3bc693a@fred><000901c8c05e$f6a4bf70$7c6fca18@YOUR6ACD238E8D> Message-ID: <003e01c8c065$77bc5400$f3bc693a@fred> Thanks Guys , am back on line again. Brian Watts (03) 97266147 briwatt at optusnet.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > Your coming through loud and clear here in southern Ontario. > > Larry Anger > 163926 Brownsville Rd. > R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario > Canada N4G 4G8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denis Rouleau" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Test > > >>I can't send messages either! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brian Watts >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:49 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Test >> >> >> I cant send messages. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 27/05/2008 1:25 PM From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 31 10:37:38 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:37:38 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Petter PU8 4kW 110V DC Searchlight Generator Message-ID: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> For some inexplicable reason, we bought this bl**dy great lump on ebay this week! :-)) No2 son went down to Southampton and collected it in his little Vauxhall Combo van, something that I would have said was not possible, but he got it in there with room and weight to spare. It is nicely original, quirky bits on the engine design, GEC generator and control electrics, pretty much original down to the toolboxes (wooden) on top of the frame and starting handle. The silencer is rusted out, judging by the huge shower of rust when we dropped it out of the back of Philip's van, but apart from a couple of stuck valves, it look as if it hasn't done a lot of work at all. I did take some pictures today but the lighting outside was a bit unusual (sun+cloud) and they came out a bit flat and lacking contrast, so I'll retake them tomorrow with the newer camera. Looking for any info on the unit. Anyone else got one? I seem to remember Kerry having one tucked away somewhere? maybe not a complete genny? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 31 12:15:29 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:15:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805311215k45c0aaf2k83495eb621cce9bc@mail.gmail.com> On 31/05/2008, William Young wrote: > Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. > Holme on Spalding Moor, York > > Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Yes, there is a company called Baldry's Coaches at that address, so I guess that one of the family may have a connection with that original publication: Baldry's Coaches Leyllandi, Water End, Holme On Spalding Moor, York, YO43 4HA. Tel: 01430-860992 I'll give them a call on Monday and see what I can find out for you. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Thu May 29 16:15:19 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:15:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone References: <000b01c8be2e$c1089f80$a6336c3a@fred> <9CB76F78A8A54EE599D97986FFFA2F6B@KerryPC> Message-ID: <006201c8c1e1$dd8d81a0$f3bc693a@fred> Hi Kerry, The finish was obtained by bead blasting off all paint and then immediately applying a thick coat of boiled linseed oil. This had to be done within 10minutes before the castings started oxidising. We have now stopped painting any Engines and some we are removing paint and trying to keep them in their aged condition. Brian / David. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Vertical Blackstone > G'Day Brian / David > > Great job you have been doing to the Blacky, well done > > What is the brass like finish to the metal work > > Kerry > > > >> IWe have added some more photos on the progress on the Vert. Lamp start >> Blackstone. >> Photos on webshots site below. >> >> David Watts (03) 87616332 >> damewatt at bigpond.com >> >> Brian Watts (03) 97266147 >> briwatt at optusnet.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.3/1472 - Release Date: 29/05/2008 7:27 AM From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Fri May 30 03:09:41 2008 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Caption. Message-ID: <001101c8c23d$518a4970$f3bc693a@fred> I am resending this email as I keep getting it returned to me with an attachment that I did not include, I think I may have fixed the problem but need to keep testing. Hope I do not offend any List Members. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Watts" To: "Brian" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Fw: Caption. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Watts" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:59 AM > Subject: Caption. > > >> Hi Russell, >> We wanted a sign for our shed,too dear to buy ,so we made our own. >> briwatt at optusnet.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Russell Gilbert" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Test >> >> >>> Brian I recon your messages must only come to specail people! I got it. >>> your blacky looks nice BTW >>> >>> What is the rest of the caption on the blackstone sign in your shed >>> pics? >>> Russell >>> >>> At 10:49 AM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>>>I cant send messages. >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> Russell Gilbert >>> Sunny Sunraysia >>> russell at ncable.com.au >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: >> 27/05/2008 1:25 PM >> > From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Wed May 28 15:24:09 2008 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:24:09 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> <7.0.1.0.1.20080529075600.022f5830@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <005e01c8c111$8d08fb40$ae57693a@Edd> Patrick.Try this.It is not called manifoldite now.It is called manifold material sheet and is made by ACL.The # on it is PM762. Bar code # 9315466018041 .The 9 at the front is smaller than the rest of the # so may not be used. EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Head Gasket Material > Patrick I recently purchased good size sheet through Repco, was > about 500x350mm, it was the re-enforced gear with the thin metal > sheet through the middle of the gasket material. Try a local store > and see how you go. > Russell > > At 08:31 PM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and >>where I could get some in Oz? >>I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not >>be >>available anymore :( >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri May 30 22:39:17 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:39:17 +1000 Subject: [SEL] National Engine Catalogue In-Reply-To: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <425082.52784.qm@web59211.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4840E485.4050206@gmail.com> Bill, I don't know what cattle dog you're seeking, maybe it's available through the National Archives site links from the page below. Good luck, there's quite a few. And there's a few other "general interest" references that showed up below that. > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=131-dd64&cid=0 > http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/news/htn57/htn57.htm > http://home.btconnect.com/stationaryengine/engines/national.htm > http://ashton-under-lyne.blogspot.com/2008/04/national-gas-engine-company.html > http://www.enginemuseum.org/natcomp.html Cheers, Al Harris Clarence Coast NSW Oz William Young wrote: > Hello from Japan, especially to English contingent on the list. > Some years ago, one of the lads (perhaps John Palmer ?? ) sent me a 15 x 24cm > National Gas Engine Co. Ltd. Catalogue, which I subsequently loaned to a buddy (??) for copying. It was not returned in tact. I want to get another. > Inside the front cover is the following info ( which does nor elicit a response from Google Search ): 1977 Eng-Trac Publications ISBN 0 906113 02 4 > Copies available from A. Baldry, Leyllandi. Selby Road. > Holme on Spalding Moor, York > > Can anyone guide me to A. Baldry? Or another source for copy of National Catalogue > circa 1902? Thanks, Bill > > Bill Young > wmlyoung at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sat May 31 13:35:00 2008 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:35:00 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen Message-ID: <13BE9BFAE6B04527A456648CF8CA2314@FBI> Hi Folks At last, I've finished my Nuenen pages http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen/nuenen1.htm also added a couple of YouTube videos to the relevant pages of the Cruquius museum http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/cruquius.htm and our visit to the Normandy D-Day landing beaches. http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normandy/normandy.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly From rotigel at alltel.net Sat May 31 13:59:32 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:59:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen In-Reply-To: <13BE9BFAE6B04527A456648CF8CA2314@FBI> References: <13BE9BFAE6B04527A456648CF8CA2314@FBI> Message-ID: <39EBA2EC-1059-4847-BD17-3BF6A740C68B@alltel.net> Hi Dolly, GREAT pictures and GREAT photography! Thanks for the tour! Dave PS, Arnie, You don't show up until p.4.--what the hell did you do wrong this time? PPS, Damned "ugly Americans!" -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On May 31, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Jim French wrote: > Hi Folks > > At last, I've finished my Nuenen pages > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen/nuenen1.htm > > also added a couple of YouTube videos to the relevant pages of the > Cruquius museum http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/cruquius/ > cruquius.htm > and our visit to the Normandy D-Day landing beaches. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normandy/normandy.htm > > Dolly > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat May 31 14:55:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:55:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Petter PU8 4kW 110V DC Searchlight Generator In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160805311455w59ac9d9o2ff8bd3a382b9d8@mail.gmail.com> On 31/05/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > For some inexplicable reason, we bought this bl**dy great lump on ebay > this week! :-)) > Quick set of pictures (13 at present) at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Petterdata/PetterPU8Menu1.htm or at: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Petterdata/PetterPU8Menu1.htm More tomorrow. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Sat May 31 15:15:48 2008 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:15:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Head Gasket Material References: <20080528103118.TPDZ1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML><7.0.1.0.1.20080529075600.022f5830@ncable.com.au> <005e01c8c111$8d08fb40$ae57693a@Edd> Message-ID: <001701c8c36b$e18b0300$ae57693a@Edd> Just got this,1/6/18. and I sent it on the 29/5/08.This makes it real hard to help people when they don't get your info!!!Wonder how long this reply will take. EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edd Payne" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Head Gasket Material > Patrick.Try this.It is not called manifoldite now.It is called manifold > material sheet and is made by ACL.The # on it is PM762. > Bar code # 9315466018041 .The 9 at the front is smaller than the rest of > the # so may not be used. > EDD PAYNE > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W > Australia > 2852 > Phone:0263742387 > edsengns at optusnet.com.au > edsengns > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell Gilbert" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:57 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Head Gasket Material > > >> Patrick I recently purchased good size sheet through Repco, was >> about 500x350mm, it was the re-enforced gear with the thin metal >> sheet through the middle of the gasket material. Try a local store >> and see how you go. >> Russell >> >> At 08:31 PM 28/05/2008, you wrote: >>>Can anyone recommend a product that is good for making head gaskets and >>>where I could get some in Oz? >>>I have previously used a product called 'Manifoldite' but it seems to not >>>be >>>available anymore :( >>> >>>Patrick M Livingstone >>>Leichhardt NSW >>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> Russell Gilbert >> Sunny Sunraysia >> russell at ncable.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Sat May 31 15:17:14 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:17:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Petter PU8 4kW 110V DC Searchlight Generator In-Reply-To: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160805311037q1c92f4d7o43db8bbd52c97516@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <76A00ECF2D864F6D80A5E4B311DE27A2@KerryPC> G'Day Peter I have a PU8 motor unit only not fitted with a generator see http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Photos/Petter.JPG I have an original manual that I could copy and snail if it will help but nothing on the generator. The story of mine and a second unit a mate got is that a bloke and his brother lives in the mountains in a somewhat lost beautiful valley, not hill billy stuff and come to town once a week, anyway they had bought the two units from army surplus wore one unit out (mine) and still using the other with an old 12v car generator tied to the frame and a V belt to the motor unit, they then run a 12v cable into their house/shack for lighting, when we got the units they bought a Honda motor unit only and again strapped the old generator on it as " it works just fine don't need anything else". Kerry > For some inexplicable reason, we bought this bl**dy great lump on ebay > this week! :-)) > > No2 son went down to Southampton and collected it in his little > Vauxhall Combo van, something that I would have said was not possible, > but he got it in there with room and weight to spare. > > It is nicely original, quirky bits on the engine design, GEC generator > and control electrics, pretty much original down to the toolboxes > (wooden) on top of the frame and starting handle. > > The silencer is rusted out, judging by the huge shower of rust when we > dropped it out of the back of Philip's van, but apart from a couple of > stuck valves, it look as if it hasn't done a lot of work at all. > > I did take some pictures today but the lighting outside was a bit > unusual (sun+cloud) and they came out a bit flat and lacking contrast, > so I'll retake them tomorrow with the newer camera. > > Looking for any info on the unit. Anyone else got one? I seem to > remember Kerry having one tucked away somewhere? maybe not a complete > genny? > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: > 30/05/2008 2:53 PM > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat May 31 20:23:43 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] Message-ID: <4842163F.6040705@scrtc.com> I'm sure several of you have received this from Harry. If not, this tells why you can't access Harry's Old Engine for the time being. Tommy Turner -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Harry's Site Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:42 -0400 From: Harry To: Judge Tommy Turner References: <482C9584.4090101 at scrtc.com> Please forward: At least it's not our server that's in trouble, but we cannot get through to the web. A major datacenter outage due to a transformer fire in the power distribution center. The fire department demanded that the generators be shut down. All servers are OK and all switches and routers are OK. Working on it. -- Harry -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM From bdb at mchsi.com Sat May 31 20:32:25 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:32:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] References: <4842163F.6040705@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000601c8c398$1cbb2050$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Thanks for the information Tommy but I am starting to go through withdrawal, I need an EngineAds fix! Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:23 PM Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] > I'm sure several of you have received this from Harry. If not, this > tells why you can't access Harry's Old Engine for the time being. > > Tommy Turner > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Harry's Site > Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:42 -0400 > From: Harry > To: Judge Tommy Turner > References: <482C9584.4090101 at scrtc.com> > > > > Please forward: > > At least it's not our server that's in trouble, but we cannot get through > to > the web. A major datacenter outage due to a transformer fire in the power > distribution center. The fire department demanded that the generators be > shut down. All servers are OK and all switches and routers are OK. Working > on it. > > -- Harry > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 > 12:25 PM > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat May 31 20:45:50 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:45:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] In-Reply-To: <000601c8c398$1cbb2050$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> References: <4842163F.6040705@scrtc.com> <000601c8c398$1cbb2050$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <48421B6E.8000003@scrtc.com> Yes Barry! You don't realize how you enjoy viewing the ads and reading the posts until they aren't there! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY bdb wrote: >Thanks for the information Tommy but I am starting to go through withdrawal, >I need an EngineAds fix! >Barry > >Barry D Buchanan >410 S. Moore >Ottumwa, IA. 52501 > >When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >like a nail. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:23 PM >Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Harry's Site] > > > > >>I'm sure several of you have received this from Harry. If not, this >>tells why you can't access Harry's Old Engine for the time being. >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: Re: Harry's Site >>Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:42 -0400 >>From: Harry >>To: Judge Tommy Turner >>References: <482C9584.4090101 at scrtc.com> >> >> >> >>Please forward: >> >>At least it's not our server that's in trouble, but we cannot get through >>to >>the web. A major datacenter outage due to a transformer fire in the power >>distribution center. The fire department demanded that the generators be >>shut down. All servers are OK and all switches and routers are OK. Working >>on it. >> >>-- Harry >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG. >>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 >>12:25 PM >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >