From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Mar  3 03:43:08 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:43:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20080111215137.00b94c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>

Jerry:

 I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't 
get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on 
here?  I would love to get this completed.

Thanks,
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction


> Hi Guys,
>         The SEL Charity Auction is almost over.  This year it seemed to be
> a bit quiet !
>
>         I was just wondering why - did you guys also get that feeling?
>
>         Has it lost it's appeal ? Was it not publicized enough ? Was
> everyone too busy celebrating to care ?
>
>         Just wondering.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
>
>
>
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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Mon Mar  3 09:28:23 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:28:23 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
In-Reply-To: <002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20080111215137.00b94c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <47CC3537.2000100@xplornet.com>

	I have the same question and results. Good to know I'm not the only one.

Rupert

Mike Royster wrote:
> Jerry:
> 
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't 
> get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on 
> here?  I would love to get this completed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
--
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Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

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From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Mon Mar  3 10:25:58 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:25:58 EST
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
Message-ID: <c5a.287209b6.34fd9cb6@aol.com>

 
I have to jump in here, too, as I have tried to find where to send payment  
but had no response.
Ron Carroll 
Clearmont, MO
 
In a message dated 3/3/2008 11:29:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
rwenig2 at xplornet.com writes:

I have the same question and results. Good to know I'm not the only  one.

Rupert

Mike Royster wrote:
> Jerry:
>  
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times,  but I 
can't 
> get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do  you know what is going 
on 
> here?  I would love to get this  completed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Mar  3 12:46:44 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:46:44 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
         I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

"<http://mail.cyberserv.co.za/Xaf849999c8cb93cb9d8358962d/newmsg.cgi?mbx=Main&to=glenn.karch at verizon.net><glenn.karch at verizon.net>: 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
     4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
     RCPT TO command)"

         Please contact me using the address in this mail.

         Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From oiseming at moscow.com  Mon Mar  3 15:44:34 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:44:34 -0800
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <200803032344.m23NiktO026245@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Quote: "Orrin - we haven't heard from you in ages?"
         
Well, this probably explains it:

http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/BBS/Hey_Look.htm

I've been busier than a long-tailed cat in a room-full of rocking chairs.
When the show is over I'll send you all I can to help you make some Knowlton
name plates.  I blew the chance to get pictures of an original, last summer.
My bad. 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:25 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: NOT A TEST !!

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         This is going out to my 2 favorite lists. "Jim's List" and the 
SEL. (Actually my "ONLY" lists. :-)

         Hell these list are sure quiet these days ! What's up ?  What're 
you Yanks doing? I hope you are digging snow away from those engine sheds. 
It'll be summer soon for you guys (and winter for us - damn!).

         12.30 a.m. here and I'm sitting waiting for a batch of engine 
plates to finish etching. -keep checking eMail - just in case one of you 
sent a message to the list. Nothing. 




From glenn.karch at att.net  Mon Mar  3 17:05:27 2008
From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:05:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <113431.91764.qm@web83717.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Jerry,

My email is now glenn.karch at att.net


----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 2:46:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
        I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

"<http://mail.cyberserv.co.za/Xaf849999c8cb93cb9d8358962d/newmsg.cgi?mbx=Main&to=glenn.karch at verizon.net><glenn.karch at verizon.net>: 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
    4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
    RCPT TO command)"

        Please contact me using the address in this mail.

        Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


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From skipl130 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 17:51:02 2008
From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:51:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
In-Reply-To: <113431.91764.qm@web83717.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <705870.34685.qm@web35311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

glenn, is it ok to send your pulley?  skip

Glenn Karch <glenn.karch at att.net> wrote:  Hi Jerry,

My email is now glenn.karch at att.net


----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Evans 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 2:46:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

": 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
RCPT TO command)"

Please contact me using the address in this mail.

Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 18:27:43 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
In-Reply-To: <002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <105087.52508.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

After not getting a reply to many emails I did a rearch and found this address.
ATIS Charity Auction
C/O  Spencer Yost
3160 MacBrandon Lane
Pfafftown, NC 27040

Just sent payments there.   As far as I can tell you will not get any reply saying you have paid. 
I sure didn't.
Be sure to add a note that says what you are paying for.
Add your email and phone number too.

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan


--- Mike Royster <mr at carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> Jerry:
> 
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't 
> get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on 
> here?  I would love to get this completed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:56 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
> 
> 
> > Hi Guys,
> >         The SEL Charity Auction is almost over.  This year it seemed to be
> > a bit quiet !
> >
> >         I was just wondering why - did you guys also get that feeling?
> >
> >         Has it lost it's appeal ? Was it not publicized enough ? Was
> > everyone too busy celebrating to care ?
> >
> >         Just wondering.
> >
> > Keep the revs up (or down)
> > Jerry Evans
> > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> > www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 
> > 01/01/2008 12:09 PM
> >
> >
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From glenn.karch at att.net  Mon Mar  3 19:27:26 2008
From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <798346.84328.qm@web83730.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yes, you may send it.  I just got back.


Thanks,

Glenn


----- Original Message ----
From: Skip Landis <skipl130 at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 7:51:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

glenn, is it ok to send your pulley?  skip

Glenn Karch <glenn.karch at att.net> wrote:  Hi Jerry,

My email is now glenn.karch at att.net


----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Evans 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 2:46:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

": 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
RCPT TO command)"

Please contact me using the address in this mail.

Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Mar  3 15:25:22 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:25:22 +0200
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         This is going out to my 2 favorite lists. "Jim's List" and the 
SEL. (Actually my "ONLY" lists. :-)

         Hell these list are sure quiet these days ! What's up ?  What're 
you Yanks doing? I hope you are digging snow away from those engine sheds. 
It'll be summer soon for you guys (and winter for us - damn!).

         12.30 a.m. here and I'm sitting waiting for a batch of engine 
plates to finish etching. -keep checking eMail - just in case one of you 
sent a message to the list. Nothing.

         Arnie, Dave, are you out there ? Normally we can expect some witty 
or otherwise comment from you guys - nothing for ages. Hey, I miss your 
"attitude".

         Reg, mate, what you doing? Nothing new to show us?

         Orrin - we haven't heard from you in ages?

         Peter (in Albany, Aus.) hows that mystery "hot bulb" coming on?

         Patrick, Brad, the 2 Peter's, Scotty, Kerry and quite a few more 
names - what are you Aus guys up to?

         Oom Bill-san - what's happening in  Japan?

         Peter Forbes, Dave Croft, what's happening in "Pommie" Land ?.

         Who's going to be at the Nuenen show in Holland :
<http://home.hetnet.nl/~antonvandercruijsen/>

                 George Best you said you were going. There is a good 
chance I will attend for at least one day. Nothing definite yet but I will 
be visiting my brother in Munich at that time and am doing my best to 
convince him that a trip to Holland would be good!!!

         Hey guys - I used to correspond a lot with John Hammink - I sure 
miss him as I'm sure a lot of you do as well.

         O.K. Plates have finished etching - I'm off to bed. Keep well my 
friends.









Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Mar  4 07:49:42 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:49:42 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590620ACE3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

 Jerry,

Unfortunately it looks like I won't be at Nuenen this year :-(
I'd sure like to go for a 3rd year in a row as it is a great show.

Problem is my wife volunteered us to keep the youngest grandkid, while
her parents and older siblings go to Disneyland. Unfortunately, their
trip is the same time as the Neunen show :-( Grandma doesn't want to be
stuck home alone with a 3 year old while I'm off having fun in Europe.
I think I can understand her point of view ;-)

We've already told the kids that no more May vacations if they want us
to keep the grandkids!

Jerry, while you're visiting your brother in Munich you should go to the
Deutsches Museum to see their engine collection.  I haven't been to the
museum yet, but from what I've heard it is supposed to be good.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Evans
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:25 PM


         Who's going to be at the Nuenen show in Holland :
<http://home.hetnet.nl/~antonvandercruijsen/>

                 George Best you said you were going. There is a good
chance I will attend for at least one day. Nothing definite yet but I
will be visiting my brother in Munich at that time and am doing my best
to convince him that a trip to Holland would be good!!!


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From oldironnut at alltel.net  Tue Mar  4 08:07:11 2008
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:07:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>

Howdy all,

Since it's pretty quiet on the list I thought that I would let you  
know that Lincoln's MacLeod served up another round of education last  
night.  Lincoln's Boy Scout troop is doing their Winter merit badge  
classes and one of them is auto mechanics.  Last night was the first  
class and we wanted to give a good introduction to what a 4 cycle  
engine is.  What better way to do that than to wheel in a hit-n-miss  
engine since they can clearly see exactly what we mean by suck,  
squeeze, bang and blow.  Anyway, it went very well and we got a lot of  
good questions on both the engine itself as well as what was going on  
when the engine was running and how it related to "modern" engines.

See ya',
Mike
______________________
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From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 09:12:08 2008
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:12:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <855405.77319.qm@web59204.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Jerry-san,     Bill Young reporting in from Japan,  I read everything, delete some and file stuff I think  might be of valve.
   I have just returned to Japan from a month in Thailand.  I always go south for the winter, always hitting Thailand and occasionally Burma ( or whatever it is called today ) Laos, Viet Nam, OZ & NZ.  Cut it short this year when folks at home told me spring had sprung.
    Found a whole pile of engines in Laos 2 years ago.  That's the good news.  They were in a govt. scrap yard and could not be had.  Date for smelter had already been fixed.  That's the sad news
    Keep in touch.  A special Hello to The Bessie Bunch.  Bill






From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Mar  4 14:04:20 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:04:20 EST
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
Message-ID: <ce5.2a1e3a1a.34ff2164@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/4/2008 10:02:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
jerrye at databak.co.za writes:

Hey guys - I used to correspond a lot with John Hammink - I sure 
miss him as I'm sure a lot of you do as well

MY sentiments exactly!!!
 
 
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Mar  5 03:56:01 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:56:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <47CE8A51.6010606@scrtc.com>

Glenn,
    Sorry to go through the SEL but I can't send you an email as it 
always bounces back.  I think your spam filter is rejecting my email 
address.  I'll give you a call.  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnola, KY




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar  5 05:50:12 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:50:12 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Green steam engine
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080305154431.00ba75f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Does anyone have any knowledge of this engine/plans.
<http://www.greensteamengine.com/>

         A mate of mine is keen to order the plans and I thought I'd first 
ask the guru's out there if anyone knows anything about it.

         Thanks in advance

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Mar  5 11:47:09 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:47:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
Message-ID: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>

Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on 
the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



From oldironnut at alltel.net  Wed Mar  5 11:59:25 2008
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:59:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>

Tommy,

I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom (gallowayengine at comcast.net 
) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from  
Annapolis.

See ya',
Mike

On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?   
> Thanks.

______________________
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oldironnut at alltel.net
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Mar  5 12:30:01 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:30:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
	<DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com>

Thanks Mike!

Tommy Turner





Michael Tucker wrote:

>Tommy,
>
>I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom (gallowayengine at comcast.net 
>) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from  
>Annapolis.
>
>See ya',
>Mike
>
>On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>>the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?   
>>Thanks.
>>    
>>
>
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From bigtime64 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  5 16:31:20 2008
From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:31:20 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W9DFB86AF4927D177BF953B4120@phx.gbl>


Thats great Mike.  Are you the merit badge counselor?  
 
Jacob took the Regimota / New Holland model engine to school for a demonstration speech.  I warned him about engines and their ability to show their true colors and be a pain to start in front of a crowd.  He said it started and ran perfectly at the first flip of the flywheels.  I guess I gotta get some lessons from him before I dispense any more advise.  
 
Ed Herreid
Trevor WI USA> From: oldironnut at alltel.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:07:11 -0500> Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!> > Howdy all,> > Since it's pretty quiet on the list I thought that I would let you > know that Lincoln's MacLeod served up another round of education last > night. Lincoln's Boy Scout troop is doing their Winter merit badge > classes and one of them is auto mechanics. Last night was the first > class and we wanted to give a good introduction to what a 4 cycle > engine is. What better way to do that than to wheel in a hit-n-miss > engine since they can clearly see exactly what we mean by suck, > squeeze, bang and blow. Anyway, it went very well and we got a lot of > good questions on both the engine itself as well as what was going on > when the engine was running and how it related to "modern" engines.> > See ya',> Mike> ______________________> Michael Tucker> oldironnut at alltel.net> Versailles, Kentucky, USA> ______________________> > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From yostsw at atis.net  Wed Mar  5 20:39:56 2008
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:39:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
In-Reply-To: <009e01c87c2c$5b0245e0$6601a8c0@FAMILYROOM>
References: <000601c86b6b$dbdc26d0$4a49d342@avci.net><65CCBDA2BFB74E86F1DD8707@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880><000401c86c3f$ff15fe30$4a49d342@avci.net><000301c86d09$69897b10$3619a58e@workst>	<000301c86d37$9988b000$4a49d342@avci.net>
	<009e01c87c2c$5b0245e0$6601a8c0@FAMILYROOM>
Message-ID: <47CF759C.2040706@atis.net>

I think the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we 
are ready to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site 
and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the 
poll that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before 
you vote.

http://www.atis.net/forums

As usual, I'll be out of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able 
to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.  

Happy nominating and voting!

Spencer


From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Thu Mar  6 00:06:22 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:06:22 EST
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
Message-ID: <be9.2ab86abb.3500fffe@aol.com>

 
Hi Spencer,
 
I think I owe $35 and have not yet sent it because I don't know where to  
mail it.  Please advise me so that I can be square with this.
 
Ron Carroll
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
yostsw at atis.net writes:

I think  the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we 
are ready  to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site 
and  make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the 
poll  that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before  
you vote.

http://www.atis.net/forums

As usual, I'll be out  of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able 
to check in every 1 to 3  3 days.  

Happy nominating and  voting!

Spencer


 



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From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu Mar  6 02:52:05 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:52:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>

Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to 
purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and 
chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could 
drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up 
some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short 
was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before 
you know it I have purcahsed  6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I 
couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the 
engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for 
sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old 
girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some 
tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came 
around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent 
about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running 
that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work, 
I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet 
plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in 
about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl 
to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.

cheers, Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Thu Mar  6 03:26:41 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:26:41 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001601c87f7c$f4710920$67206d3a@Edd>

That's a great buy Russell.They run real slow and look good.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:52 PM
Subject: [SEL] right place right time


> Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to 
> purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and 
> chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could 
> drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up 
> some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short 
> was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before 
> you know it I have purcahsed  6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I 
> couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the 
> engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for 
> sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old 
> girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some 
> tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came 
> around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent 
> about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running 
> that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work, 
> I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet 
> plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in 
> about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl 
> to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.
> 
> cheers, Russell
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> 
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu Mar  6 03:40:24 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:40:24 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
References: <be9.2ab86abb.3500fffe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c87f7e$de06bed0$726f4b47@mikecomp>

Same here, I owe for 2 tags.

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MaytagTwin at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site


>
> Hi Spencer,
>
> I think I owe $35 and have not yet sent it because I don't know where to
> mail it.  Please advise me so that I can be square with this.
>
> Ron Carroll
>
>
> In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> yostsw at atis.net writes:
>
> I think  the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we
> are ready  to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site
> and  make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the
> poll  that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before
> you vote.
>
> http://www.atis.net/forums
>
> As usual, I'll be out  of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able
> to check in every 1 to 3  3 days.
>
> Happy nominating and  voting!
>
> Spencer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Thu Mar  6 04:39:32 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:39:32 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <004301c87f87$24d042c0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

What a great find Russell. Can't wait to see it running. Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:52 PM
Subject: [SEL] right place right time


> Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to
> purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and
> chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could
> drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up
> some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short
> was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before
> you know it I have purcahsed  6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I
> couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the
> engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for
> sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old
> girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some
> tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came
> around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent
> about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running
> that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work,
> I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet
> plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in
> about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl
> to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.
>
> cheers, Russell
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Mar  6 05:46:14 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Thu,  6 Mar 2008 08:46:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
In-Reply-To: <47CF759C.2040706@atis.net>
References: <000601c86b6b$dbdc26d0$4a49d342@avci.net><65CCBDA2BFB74E86F1DD8707@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880><000401c86c3f$ff15fe30$4a49d342@avci.net><000301c86d09$69897b10$3619a58e@workst>
	<000301c86d37$9988b000$4a49d342@avci.net>
	<009e01c87c2c$5b0245e0$6601a8c0@FAMILYROOM>
	<47CF759C.2040706@atis.net>
Message-ID: <1204811174.47cff5a66cafc@webmail.city-net.com>

Hiya Spencer,

I'd be happy to offer up suggestions if you post the info to the Stationary
Engine LIST.  I have no interest in the forum.  Thanks.

I personally think the idea of trying to push an "either - or, LIST vs. Forum)"
environment is a bad idea.

Arnie

Quoting Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>:

> I think the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we 
> are ready to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site 
> and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the 
> poll that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before 
> you vote.
> 
> http://www.atis.net/forums
> 
> As usual, I'll be out of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able 
> to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.  
> 
> Happy nominating and voting!
> 
> Spencer




From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar  6 05:47:52 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:47:52 -0600
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001901c87f90$ad4a3940$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

Dude !!!That was only 3X's !      
Good shootin' for sure man . 
Chuck Balyeat 
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm


From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar  6 06:00:26 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:00:26 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za><C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>
	<BAY139-W9DFB86AF4927D177BF953B4120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002601c87f92$6e82d580$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

   I guess I gotta get some lessons from him before I dispense any more 
advise.
 Ed Herreid
/////////////////////

Time and wear is on your side my friend   .
And if  anything was ever a sure bet ,
That'd be  wear  .

Chuck Balyeat
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm





From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Thu Mar  6 12:04:44 2008
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:04:44 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
In-Reply-To: <000f01c87f7e$de06bed0$726f4b47@mikecomp>
References: <be9.2ab86abb.3500fffe@aol.com>
	<000f01c87f7e$de06bed0$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <BLU135-W2653BB18EDEAFAB26B2783C8120@phx.gbl>


I also owe some money Spencer, but don't know where to send my check. (1 tag)Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA=================================
> From: mr at carolina.rr.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:40:24 -0500> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > Same here, I owe for 2 tags.> > Mike Royster> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MaytagTwin at aol.com>> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 AM> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > > >> > Hi Spencer,> >> > I think I owe $35 and have not yet sent it because I don't know where to> > mail it. Please advise me so that I can be square with this.> >> > Ron Carroll> >> >> > In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,> > yostsw at atis.net writes:> >> > I think the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we> > are ready to discuss sending out the money. Drop by the forum site> > and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the> > poll that is set up. Be sure to read the message under the poll before> > you vote.> >> > http://www.atis.net/forums> >> > As usual, I'll be out of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able> > to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.> >> > Happy nominating and voting!> >> > Spencer> >
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From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu Mar  6 13:17:13 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:17:13 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
In-Reply-To: <001901c87f90$ad4a3940$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
	<001901c87f90$ad4a3940$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080307081449.022553c8@ncable.com.au>

thanks for the comments guys; Chuck I thought that if I put that 
fourth X in there you would have got the wrong idea :-)

I have put a few pictures of it up on my webshots for them who want's a look!
cheers.


At 12:47 AM 7/03/2008, you wrote:
>Dude !!!That was only 3X's !
>Good shootin' for sure man .
>Chuck Balyeat
>http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com  Thu Mar  6 14:51:38 2008
From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:51:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY131-W19C8E8F15882241FF2CF5FA3120@phx.gbl>


Well done mate. They are a beautiful engine. Sorry I missed you at the swap. I think you were off doing the deal when I was at your site. Looking forward to pics.
Regards.Lyndsay. > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:52:05 +1100> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: russell at ncable.com.au> Subject: [SEL] right place right time> > Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to > purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and > chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could > drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up > some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short > was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before > you know it I have purcahsed 6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I > couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the > engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for > sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old > girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some > tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came > around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent > about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running > that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work, > I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet > plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in > about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl > to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.> > cheers, Russell> Russell Gilbert> Sunny Sunraysia> russell at ncable.com.au> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Mar  3 10:25:41 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:25:41 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 48, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1204563602.2589.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303200926.00ba0ec0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 03/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:43:08 -0500
>From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity Auction
>
>Jerry:
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't
>get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on
>here?  I would love to get this completed.
>Thanks,
>Mike

Hi Mike (and Luke),
         I remember from last year that Spencer does take some chasing. 
He's busy and hard to get him to reply to eMail.
         Just send the payment to him but you've gotta find out what 
address he uses for PayPal. Last year I seem to remember that I sent 
payment to the wrong eMail addy and had to cancel it as it remained 
unclaimed. I eventually found the correct address and it was accepted.

         I'll reply off list with the address I used but I have no idea if 
this is where he wants it sent - you'll have to check with him.

         In the meantime send me the details of the plate you want and I'll 
start on it. You guys over there can sort out the details - You won the 
plate on the auction and that's what counts to for me. I'll make it.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Mar  7 04:49:25 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:49:25 +1100
Subject: [SEL] IHC Tank cooled pics wanted please
Message-ID: <004f01c88051$ac86c980$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi all
Does anyone have some good photos of a tank cooled IHC vertical famous they 
could sent to me please.
Send to plowe at exemail.com.au


Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Mar  7 17:21:16 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:21:16 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
Message-ID: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi folks.
	Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. She
had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
the fingers. 
Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try and
keep everyone informed. 
The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
still having problems with blood flow.
I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From Germoamer at aol.com  Fri Mar  7 17:26:02 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:26:02 EST
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
Message-ID: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>

I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
T's.  The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn powered a 
belt pulley to the wood saw.  I have received a call about one that I am going 
to see this weekend.  It supposedly is all original and in excellent condition.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar  7 17:36:22 2008
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:36:22 -0600
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <02d701c880bc$d19e0420$210110ac@FAMILY>

Thanks Patrick, I will certainly be praying for Liz, Ron and the family 
tonight. Do you know what happened?

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident


> Hi folks.
> Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
> Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. 
> She
> had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
> the fingers.
> Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try 
> and
> keep everyone informed.
> The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
> still having problems with blood flow.
> I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Mar  7 18:11:48 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 18:11:48 -0800
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
In-Reply-To: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <200803080212.m282BvjS055156@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Tom, I have some pix and can send them via private e-mail.  Do you want high
resolution pictures for printing or low-res for screen viewing?

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
Germoamer at aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:26 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw

I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
T's.  The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn
powered a 
belt pulley to the wood saw.  I have received a call about one that I am
going 
to see this weekend.  It supposedly is all original and in excellent
condition.
 
Thanks,
  
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com





From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Mar  7 18:18:08 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:18:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
In-Reply-To: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <47D1F760.3020407@scrtc.com>

This is terrible news Patrick.  Having had the end of a finger amputated 
and reattached about 5 years ago, I know on a small scale what she is 
going through.  There are so many nerve endings in the fingers that 
reattachment surgery can be very painful for a long time after its 
over.  I had the tip of my right middle finger pinched off about 2 
months ago.  They sewed it back and its healing and no more pain.  This 
wasn't nearly as serious as the other accident I had as it didn't cut 
the bone off, just tissue.  Still hurt though.  We'll be saying some 
prayers for Liz.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




Patrick M Livingstone wrote:

>Hi folks.
>	Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
>Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. She
>had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
>the fingers. 
>Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try and
>keep everyone informed. 
>The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
>still having problems with blood flow.
>I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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>
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From canuckiron at wightman.ca  Sat Mar  8 06:34:57 2008
From: canuckiron at wightman.ca (Duncan Denman)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:34:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
In-Reply-To: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
References: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47D2A411.2090705@wightman.ca>

Hi Tom,

Fellow up here had one of those and used to run it with a Model T sedan. 
Worked really well.

Duncan

Germoamer at aol.com wrote:

>I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
>T's.  The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
>which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn powered a 
>belt pulley to the wood saw.  I have received a call about one that I am going 
>to see this weekend.  It supposedly is all original and in excellent condition.
> 
>Thanks,
> 
> 
>Tom Schmutz
>Concord, Va.
>Germoamer at aol.com
>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Mar  8 09:16:09 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Sat,  8 Mar 2008 12:16:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Oilfield Engine in the Wild and on the Lease
Message-ID: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>

AND it's for sale on eBay!!  8-))
The description is pretty interesing historically.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220208059273

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com






From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 10:54:25 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:54:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site PAYMENTS
In-Reply-To: <BLU135-W2653BB18EDEAFAB26B2783C8120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <37210.87758.qm@web37309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Like I already wrote once,,,,

After not getting a reply to many emails I did a search and found
 this address.
ATIS Charity Auction
C/O  Spencer Yost
3160 MacBrandon Lane
Pfafftown, NC 27040

Just sent payments there.   As far as I can tell you will not get any
 reply saying you have paid. 
I sure didn't.
Be sure to add a note that says what you are paying for.
Add your email and phone number too.

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

--- Luke Tonneberger <flywheelin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I also owe some money Spencer, but don't know where to send my check. (1 tag)Luke
> TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA=================================
> > From: mr at carolina.rr.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:40:24
> -0500> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > Same here, I owe for 2
> tags.> > Mike Royster> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MaytagTwin at aol.com>> To:
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 AM> Subject: Re: [SEL]
> Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > > >> > Hi Spencer,> >> > I think I owe $35 and
> have not yet sent it because I don't know where to> > mail it. Please advise me so that I can be
> square with this.> >> > Ron Carroll> >> >> > In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,> > yostsw at atis.net writes:> >> > I think the last of the charity auction money
> came in last week, so we> > are ready to discuss sending out the money. Drop by the forum site>
> > and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the> > poll that is set
> up. Be sure to read the message under the !
>  poll before> > you vote.> >> > http://www.atis.net/forums> >> > As usual, I'll be out of town a
> lot the next 10 days but should be able> > to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.> >> > Happy
> nominating and voting!> >> > Spencer> >
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 11:07:49 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:07:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080307081449.022553c8@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <56091.73394.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That sure is a great find, Russell.
Very sweet looking engine indeed.

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan



--- Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au> wrote:

> thanks for the comments guys; Chuck I thought that if I put that 
> fourth X in there you would have got the wrong idea :-)
> 
> I have put a few pictures of it up on my webshots for them who want's a look!
> cheers.
> 
> 
> At 12:47 AM 7/03/2008, you wrote:
> >Dude !!!That was only 3X's !
> >Good shootin' for sure man .
> >Chuck Balyeat
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Mar  8 02:57:37 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:57:37 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         My friend Neville Botha has acquired a Petter Atomic 15 H.P. which 
he wishes to start restoring.
         Unfortunately it has a number of missing parts (I do not have 
details right now) and he is looking for information, pictures or manuals 
which may help him. Possibly also contact with any other owners of a 
similar engine to correspond with.
         There is precious little info on the net about them so I hope you 
guys can help again.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Sat Mar  8 13:41:27 2008
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:41:27 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <B55BCEF6955C498D820ABAD510379F6B@FBI>

Hi Jerry

Jim's got a 6HP Atomic.  Sorry, the only pic I've put online is here
http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/jimstoys3.htm
As to missing parts, guaranteed one of them will be the injector (nozzle), 
which is as rare as rocking horse poo studded with hens teeth.  However, 
there are similar ones about which will make the engine pop and bang as 
required!
Talk to Paul Evans of Internal Fire http://www.internalfire.com/

Look forward to seeing pics!

Regards,
Dolly & Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>

>         My friend Neville Botha has acquired a Petter Atomic 15 H.P. which
> he wishes to start restoring.
>         Unfortunately it has a number of missing parts (I do not have
> details right now) and he is looking for information, pictures or manuals
> which may help him. Possibly also contact with any other owners of a
> similar engine to correspond with.
>         There is precious little info on the net about them so I hope you
> guys can help again.



From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Sat Mar  8 15:00:16 2008
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:00:16 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000d01c88170$319cf7b0$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

Jerry.......My friend just around the corner has one and it is a ''Big 
Bastard'' used to drive the Ammonia compressor at a meat works .It is not a 
runner but it is all there and I can get whatever pics you want.......not 
sure about the HP but will check.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.


> Hi Guys,
>         My friend Neville Botha has acquired a Petter Atomic 15 H.P. which
> he wishes to start restoring.
>         Unfortunately it has a number of missing parts (I do not have
> details right now) and he is looking for information, pictures or manuals
> which may help him. Possibly also contact with any other owners of a
> similar engine to correspond with.
>         There is precious little info on the net about them so I hope you
> guys can help again.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
>
>
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From tilinghast at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 16:33:00 2008
From: tilinghast at yahoo.com (David DeWitt)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:33:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
In-Reply-To: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <732536.42378.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Tom...We had a neighbor that had a 1948 Plymouth jacked up on 1 rear wheel with a belt over the rear tire that ran to a regular belt driven saw. He heated and cooked with wood so that old Plymouth worked pretty regular. Wish I had taken a picture of it.  When I was a kid my Dad did the same thing with an old war surplus jeep. We only used the wood for cooking though so didn't have to buzz as much wood.
    Dave.

Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
  I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
T's. The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn powered a 
belt pulley to the wood saw. I have received a call about one that I am going 
to see this weekend. It supposedly is all original and in excellent condition.

Thanks,


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 23:48:41 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:48:41 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
Message-ID: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>

I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
at Portland last summer.

As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
feedback as to how they come out.

The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen format:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  9 03:53:08 2008
From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 03:53:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39966.87430.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.


Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote: I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
at Portland last summer.

As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
feedback as to how they come out.

The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen format:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 04:08:34 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:08:34 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <39966.87430.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<39966.87430.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, S. Work <endacomm10 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.
>

They all open and run correctly in Windows Media Player.

They were all checked for running before we uploaded them, might be
worth checking which version of WMP you are using.

We are running Win2kPro with Firefox, Opera and IE6. All of these
browsers download and run the files.

Sorry you can't see them, but we have checked in as many formats as
possible before uploading them.

Peter


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Mar  9 05:31:38 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:31:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Oilfield Engine in the Wild and on the Lease
References: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <002801c881e1$8660e1a0$3feb4c0c@D48VHZ61>

Great reading, thanks for sharing! Would have made a great article for GEM.

John Hall

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From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old_Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:16 PM
Subject: [SEL] Oilfield Engine in the Wild and on the Lease


> AND it's for sale on eBay!!  8-))
> The description is pretty interesing historically.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220208059273
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>
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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar  9 06:52:38 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:52:38 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>

Hello Peter,
	They download fine both directly to the video player and to my desktop. 
The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with an XP 
platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that 
comes with "youtube".

Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
> 
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
> 
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen format:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi
> 
> We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
> I'll get some more done today.
> 
> Peter

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From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Mar  9 09:06:43 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:06:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media Player.  I'm running a fully current version of Windoze XP, home version and have just checked the updates.......nada.

Do you think Billy Gates is trying to get me to downgrade to Vista?    :-)

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> Listerdiesel
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 01:49 AM
> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine
> Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> 
> 
> I've given up on getting anything decent in the 
> way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the 
> video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
> 
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there 
> and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
> 
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the 
> camera is wide-screen format:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Port
land18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 07:36:55 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:36:55 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>         They download fine both directly to the video player and to my desktop.
>  The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with an XP
>  platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that
>  comes with "youtube".
>
>  Rupert
>

YouTube would have been 'easier' for folks to access, but it
absolutely slaughters the pictures, and despite various trials of
formats, I couldn't get anything to work well enough for me. I like to
see what's going on, not a big blur of coloured squares!

XP does come with all popular codecs I am told, so those on XP should be fine.

I think that is most of the videos, I'll go back to the originals now
and see if I missed anything. Was Dave's Austral in one of them? I
know I took a shot or two of that.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 08:14:56 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:14:56 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090814g2517b3f7r4c2b0ba65c8a60a6@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Peter:
>
>  I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media Player.  I'm running a fully current version of Windoze XP, home version and have just checked the updates.......nada.
>
>  Do you think Billy Gates is trying to get me to downgrade to Vista?    :-)
>
>  Take care - Elden

Take a look at the link I posted for more codec information, Elden,
and you could also try the WMV format file that I posted info about
just now.

Let me know if you still have trouble please, as a last resort I'll
convert them all to WMV format, although generally most people seem to
be getting them downloaded OK now.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Mar  9 09:38:25 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:38:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090814g2517b3f7r4c2b0ba65c8a60a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

I'll go take a look.  I have no trouble with .WMV files.

I did see a suggestion in Windoze Help:

"The solution is to use REGEDIT and navigate to 
My Computer\HKey_Classes_root\Media Type\Extensions\ 
and Delete extension .AVI 
which points to the source filter that does not extist."

I'm gonnma do it right now.  If youall never hear from me again, you'll know that the matter/antimatter reactor in my PeeCee has just ahhihilated itself and me with it.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> Listerdiesel
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:15 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> 
> 
> On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> > Peter:
> >
> >  I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media 
> Player.  I'm running a fully current version of 
> Windoze XP, home version and have just checked 
> the updates.......nada.
> >
> >  Do you think Billy Gates is trying to get me 
> to downgrade to Vista?    :-)
> >
> >  Take care - Elden
> 
> Take a look at the link I posted for more codec 
> information, Elden,
> and you could also try the WMV format file that I 
> posted info about
> just now.
> 
> Let me know if you still have trouble please, as 
> a last resort I'll
> convert them all to WMV format, although 
> generally most people seem to
> be getting them downloaded OK now.
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk




From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Mar  9 09:46:58 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:46:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elden DuRand [mailto:edurand at mchsi.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:45 AM
> To: Elden DuRand
> Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> 
> 
> Peter:
> 
> Tried the suggestion below.  There is no media 
> type .AVI in my register.  Big help that was!
> 
> I may try to fiddle with it some more in the future.
> 
> Take care - Elden 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elden DuRand [mailto:edurand at mchsi.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:38 AM
> > To: The SEL email discussion list
> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> > 
> > 
> > Peter:
> > 
> > I'll go take a look.  I have no trouble with .WMV files.
> > 
> > I did see a suggestion in Windoze Help:
> > 
> > "The solution is to use REGEDIT and navigate to 
> > My Computer\HKey_Classes_root\Media Type\Extensions\ 
> > and Delete extension .AVI 
> > which points to the source filter that does not extist."
> > 
> > I'm gonnma do it right now.  If youall never hear 
> > from me again, you'll know that the 
> > matter/antimatter reactor in my PeeCee has just 
> > ahhihilated itself and me with it.
> > 
> > Take care - Elden




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 09:05:05 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:05:05 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090905p2104390dgd9010130b8cd8978@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Elden DuRand [mailto:edurand at mchsi.com]
>  > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:45 AM
>  > To: Elden DuRand
>  > Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
>  >
>  >
>  > Peter:
>  >
>  > Tried the suggestion below.  There is no media
>  > type .AVI in my register.  Big help that was!
>  >
>  > I may try to fiddle with it some more in the future.
>
> >
>  > Take care - Elden

Hold fire for a while, I am just processing all the files into .wmv
format. It takes a while, plus I have to upload them to the two sites,
but give it an hour and they should all be available on BOTH file
formats.

I'll take the .avi files off both sites after 24 hours.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 09:17:46 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:17:46 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <6f6025160803090814g2517b3f7r4c2b0ba65c8a60a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090917h5fae5f86oe279eb6b592ace2c@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Peter:
>
>  I'll go take a look.  I have no trouble with .WMV files.
>

The files are loading into stationary-engine.co.uk FIRST, starting
with Portland22 and going down in number.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar  9 09:32:13 2008
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:32:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004401c88203$221abeb0$210110ac@FAMILY>

Peter they look great, do they continuously loop around? As I was watching 
the first one it appeared to be showing the same video over and over or was 
it just me. BUT, great, nice to have real video of Portland rather than just 
pictures. Thanks for doing this for all of us.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Stationary-Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:48 AM
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips


> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
>
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
>
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen 
> format:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi
>
> We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
> I'll get some more done today.
>
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar  9 09:32:14 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:32:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] WMP troubles: was Re:  Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <47D4110E.2030804@xplornet.com>

Hi Guy,
	It is possible Windows media player is configured not to play *.avi 
files as I don't think it is a default setting. To change, open windows 
player, go to Tools/options and select file types. Check to see if the 
line for *.avi files has a check mark in the box. It should be checked.

Rupert

--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 10:11:18 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:11:18 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <004401c88203$221abeb0$210110ac@FAMILY>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<004401c88203$221abeb0$210110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803091011hcaaf945g4591951c2a05e3ce@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Paul Maples <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Peter they look great, do they continuously loop around? As I was watching
>  the first one it appeared to be showing the same video over and over or was
>  it just me. BUT, great, nice to have real video of Portland rather than just
>  pictures. Thanks for doing this for all of us.
>
>
>  Paul

These are all clips from the original footage, and in the process we
did play around with different bits and pieces to make up something
interesting for everyone.

The .wmv files are all loaded onto stationary-engine.co.uk now, the
oldengine ones are about 25 minutes behind.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun Mar  9 10:26:14 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:26:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Attn: [Dolly] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <AAF1253B-7FEC-410D-B17D-589EF453D939@rustyiron.com>


> I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media Player.
> I'm running a fully current version of Windoze XP,
> home version and have just checked the updates.......nada.



See?  I'm exhibiting discretion.  This is VERY difficult.

Rob







From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun Mar  9 10:35:49 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:35:49 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090905p2104390dgd9010130b8cd8978@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<6f6025160803090905p2104390dgd9010130b8cd8978@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D383FF7-3759-4C75-8368-316FF61208DC@rustyiron.com>


On Mar 9, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Listerdiesel wrote:
>
> Hold fire for a while, I am just processing all the files into .wmv
> format. It takes a while, plus I have to upload them to the two sites,
> but give it an hour and they should all be available on BOTH file
> formats.

Hey Peter,
I put videos onto the web page using Flash.  It's as universally  
acceptable as you can get.  By hosting it yourself, you don't have to  
worry about the quality limitations imposed by YouTube.

So why not provide AVI, WMV, and Flash?  Oh, and what about MOV files  
for those of us who represent 7.5% of web traffic?  Oh, wait, we can  
watch ALL those formats already.

Let me close with the following parable that might help you in  
designing your web page:

An old man and a young boy were traveling through their village with  
their donkey. The boy rode on the donkey and the old man walked.

As they went along they passed some people who remarked it was a shame  
the old man was walking and the boy was riding.

The man and boy thought maybe the critics were right, so they changed  
positions.

Later, they passed some people that remarked, "What a shame, he makes  
that little boy walk." They then decided they both would walk.

Soon they passed some more people who thought they were stupid to walk  
when they had a decent donkey to ride. So, they both rode the donkey.

Now they passed some people that shamed them by saying, "How awful to  
put such a load on a poor donkey."

The boy and man said they were probably right, so they decided to  
carry the donkey.

As they crossed the bridge, they lost their grip on the animal and he  
fell into the river and drowned.



Party on, Garth!









From kimmell at verizon.net  Sun Mar  9 10:01:59 2008
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:01:59 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>

Peter,
I watched your .avi clips and honestly I don't think they were any 
clearer than most of the stuff I've put up on YouTube.  I personally 
like YouTube because their compression makes even the biggest files 
download relatively quickly.  Whereas it took me about 2 minutes to 
download the .avi files.

I put a few videos of my own on YouTube in .mov format (that's the 
format my particular digital camera saves them in).  I don't know if 
the .mov format has anything to do with them being clearer, but I've 
never had any complaints with the way my stuff turns out on YouTube: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjOo4NYSzh4

-Tony


At 01:48 AM 3/9/2008, Listerdiesel wrote:
>I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
>YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
>at Portland last summer.




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 11:03:04 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:03:04 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205078402.24299.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309193814.00bb5c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 09/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:41:27 -0000
>From: "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
>
>Hi Jerry
>Jim's got a 6HP Atomic.  Sorry, the only pic I've put online is here
>http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/jimstoys3.htm
>As to missing parts, guaranteed one of them will be the injector (nozzle),
>which is as rare as rocking horse poo studded with hens teeth.  However,
>there are similar ones about which will make the engine pop and bang as
>required!
>Talk to Paul Evans of Internal Fire http://www.internalfire.com/
>Look forward to seeing pics!
>Regards,
>Dolly & Jim

Hi Dolly & Jim,
         Thanks for the reply - when I googled "Petter Atomic" yours was 
one of the first to come up. (Well Done "The Webmistress" :-)) Advanced 
search (in those results) for 15 hp only found about 3 results and none 
relevant.

         Neville also has a 6HP (unrestored) and has already stripped a few 
parts from it for comparison and will be able make (or modify) some of the 
parts using those from the 6 HP for reference.

         On "Jim's List" Roland Craven replied:
"The 15hp is an uprated version of the 12hp with practically no parts in 
common with any other size. the 12-15 is also far from common so parts may 
be a big issue.."

         I do not think that Neville is too concerned with "availability of 
parts" - more a case of being able to see what they look like and do so 
that he can copy and make them.  We have a saying in South Africa (in 
Afrikaans - our other language) "'n Boer Maak 'n Plan" - direct translation 
is " A Farmer makes a plan".

         I've not seen the engine yet and am still waiting for Neville to 
give me a list of what he needs but if an injector is one of the missing 
"bits" I do not see that as a big problem.

         I learnt a lot about diesel injectors (from these lists) a few 
weeks ago when looking for one for my 12 HP Witte CD Diesel. Thanks all.

         I'll get some pics soon but, as I mentioned, he got this one in 
boxes so the pics will not be much until it starts going together again.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 13:44:58 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:44:58 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309193814.00bb5c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309193814.00bb5c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803091344hbb3c73q380c47e3331957bb@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:
>
>          I've not seen the engine yet and am still waiting for Neville to
>  give me a list of what he needs but if an injector is one of the missing
>  "bits" I do not see that as a big problem.
>

There speaks an optimist!

We searched high and low for one for Jim's Atomic, but couldn't get a
sniff of an injector or a nozzle for it.

We did have some success with cleaning the nozzle out though, it took
a few months of solvents and ultrasonic cleaning to dislodge the crud
inside the spray holes.

We still look out for those particular nozzles, but have yet to find
anything close.

We did pick up some bodies and nozzles for a Glenniffer marine engine
the other day....

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From alharris44 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 13:51:58 2008
From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:51:58 +1100
Subject: [SEL] FLV format: was  Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>

Everybody,

IMHO wmv & flv files are primarily for "real time/streaming" 
viewing and are designed accordingly (speed, size), therefore 
they do not have the same bells and whistles as "quality" 
based formats (xvid, mov, avi [most wrappers] etc).

I have found that a combination of two reprocessors (below) 
that I use, give me good quality image and smaller file size 
from my cameras (Kodak/Pentax).

Super.exe (from eRightSoft)

> http://www.erightsoft.com/home.html

VirtualDubMod.exe

> http://files.filefront.com/VirtualDubModexe/;8399394;/fileinfo.html

And here's a standalone FLV Player if someone wants one.

> http://files.filefront.com/flvplayerexe/;9159129;/fileinfo.html

Cheers,
Al Harris


Tony & Jackie wrote:
> Peter,
> I watched your .avi clips and honestly I don't think they were any 
> clearer than most of the stuff I've put up on YouTube.  I personally 
> like YouTube because their compression makes even the biggest files 
> download relatively quickly.  Whereas it took me about 2 minutes to 
> download the .avi files.
> 
> I put a few videos of my own on YouTube in .mov format (that's the 
> format my particular digital camera saves them in).  I don't know if 
> the .mov format has anything to do with them being clearer, but I've 
> never had any complaints with the way my stuff turns out on YouTube: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjOo4NYSzh4
> 
> -Tony
> 
> 
> At 01:48 AM 3/9/2008, Listerdiesel wrote:
>> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
>> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
>> at Portland last summer.
> 
> 
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 11:15:13 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:15:13 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205078402.24299.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309200953.00bb8ec0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>Message: 12
>Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:52:38 -0600
>From: Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
>
>Hello Peter,
>         They download fine <snip>

>  It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that
>comes with "youtube".
>Rupert

Rupert,
         You are so right there - I feel the same way about all the free 
"webshots" sites. (They're just a bunch of bandwidth thieves.).
         Long live "oldengine.org"
          



From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar  9 18:01:54 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:01:54 -0600
Subject: [SEL] steam engine powered generator
In-Reply-To: <47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
	<47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D48882.8020608@xplornet.com>

Hello Rick,
	Is this similar to yours <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fykeQNVadYk>?

Rupert

--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 11:10:37 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:10:37 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Petter Atomic 15 H.P
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205078402.24299.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309200357.00bb8e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 09/03/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:00:16 +0800
>From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
>
>Jerry.......My friend just around the corner has one and it is a ''Big
>Bastard'' used to drive the Ammonia compressor at a meat works .It is not a
>runner but it is all there and I can get whatever pics you want.......not
>sure about the HP but will check.

Hi Peter,
         Thanks for the reply.
         That would be very helpful but before going to the trouble of 
taking pics, could you find out the size (HP).
                 As mentioned in my previous post - I'm still waiting for 
Neville to tell me what he needs and I'll get back to you then (probably a 
few days).
         Many thanks.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From edward.tabor at zoominternet.net  Sun Mar  9 18:22:34 2008
From: edward.tabor at zoominternet.net (Edward Tabor)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:22:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com><DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>
	<47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <F57227572BA647A68A3A2C38B7B7A7B6@EdToshiba2>

Have you found somebody?  I'm going to Annapolis this week.  My number is 
443-309-2877.  If something needs transported I could arrange to get it to 
Coolspring.  (Believe Paul Gray attends.)

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?


> Thanks Mike!
>
> Tommy Turner
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Tucker wrote:
>
>>Tommy,
>>
>>I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom 
>>(gallowayengine at comcast.net
>>) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from
>>Annapolis.
>>
>>See ya',
>>Mike
>>
>>On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>>>the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>______________________
>>Michael Tucker
>>oldironnut at alltel.net
>>Versailles, Kentucky, USA
>>______________________
>>
>>
>>
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From garyepps at fidnet.com  Sun Mar  9 18:34:37 2008
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:34:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>

Peter,
I haven't read through all of this thread, but I am using XP Pro and all 
I got was the light show.

Gary

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 09/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hello Peter,
>>         They download fine both directly to the video player and to my desktop.
>>  The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with an XP
>>  platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that
>>  comes with "youtube".
>>
>>  Rupert
>>
>>     
>
> YouTube would have been 'easier' for folks to access, but it
> absolutely slaughters the pictures, and despite various trials of
> formats, I couldn't get anything to work well enough for me. I like to
> see what's going on, not a big blur of coloured squares!
>
> XP does come with all popular codecs I am told, so those on XP should be fine.
>
> I think that is most of the videos, I'll go back to the originals now
> and see if I missed anything. Was Dave's Austral in one of them? I
> know I took a shot or two of that.
>
> Peter
>   


From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sun Mar  9 18:54:26 2008
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:54:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com><6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>
Message-ID: <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>

I also got the light show - audio but no video. 


Bob Willman
Bowling Green, Ohio
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Gary Epps
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:35 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips

Peter,
I haven't read through all of this thread, but I am using XP Pro and all I
got was the light show.

Gary

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 09/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hello Peter,
>>         They download fine both directly to the video player and to my
desktop.
>>  The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with 
>> an XP  platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert 
>> that  comes with "youtube".
>>
>>  Rupert
>>
>>     
>
> YouTube would have been 'easier' for folks to access, but it 
> absolutely slaughters the pictures, and despite various trials of 
> formats, I couldn't get anything to work well enough for me. I like to 
> see what's going on, not a big blur of coloured squares!
>
> XP does come with all popular codecs I am told, so those on XP should be
fine.
>
> I think that is most of the videos, I'll go back to the originals now 
> and see if I missed anything. Was Dave's Austral in one of them? I 
> know I took a shot or two of that.
>
> Peter
>   
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Mar  9 19:10:53 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:10:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] steam engine powered generator
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net><47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>
	<47D48882.8020608@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV46D7EEA87D842766717A7BB0E0@phx.gbl>

yes it is Rupert.  Down for now but should be up and running soon.  Have not 
loaded the engine down yet and should be fun to watch when we do.  Our 
engine and boiler look just a tad bigger.

Regards,
Rick




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: [SEL] steam engine powered generator


> Hello Rick,
> Is this similar to yours <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fykeQNVadYk>?
>
> Rupert
>
> --
> yvt
>
> Rupert Wenig
> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>
> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 


From fsouthwell at googlemail.com  Sun Mar  9 01:29:06 2008
From: fsouthwell at googlemail.com (Fred Southwell)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 09:29:06 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bd33b2e0803090129t3f22269wc007fe4124c98761@mail.gmail.com>

Look good to me Peter. If you hadn't said about them being squeezed I
wouldn't have noticed.

Fred

On 09/03/2008, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
>
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
>
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen
> format:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi
>
> We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
> I'll get some more done today.
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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See all my pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/g6zru



From kimmell at verizon.net  Sun Mar  9 11:19:34 2008
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:19:34 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
Message-ID: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi all,
I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in 
restoring old engines, so that's close.

I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging 
home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80 
gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I 
realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my 
garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for 
this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this 
3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about 
the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably 
need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be 
swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the 
information on the motor tag:

Frame- 184T
Horsepower- 5
Volts- 208-230/460
Amps- 14.8-14/7
RPM- 1725
NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
PF- 80%

I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a 
complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not 
need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so 
I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon 
single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the 
whole compressor if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Mar  9 20:36:20 2008
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:36:20 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <000401c8825f$e888c2c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>

Hi Tony,

Curt Holland had a very nice write up on making a single 
phase to three phase converter.  I took a look at his 
website and couldn
find it so maybe he can point you in the right direction.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, California U.S.A.
replace nomore with net to send mail
jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors


Hi all,
I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools 
used in
restoring old engines, so that's close.

I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up 
dragging
home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 
2-stage, 80
gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded 
it that I
realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in 
my
garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would 
work for
this application, I would be interested in buying or trading 
for this
3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know 
much about
the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd 
probably
need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase 
motor I'd be
swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of 
the
information on the motor tag:

Frame- 184T
Horsepower- 5
Volts- 208-230/460
Amps- 14.8-14/7
RPM- 1725
NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
PF- 80%

I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit 
for a
complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade. 
I do not
need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal 
on it, so
I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 
gallon
single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor 
or the
whole compressor if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL

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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Mar  9 23:14:15 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:14:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <000401c8825f$e888c2c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>


---- JIM KIRKES <jd.kirkes at verizon.net> wrote: 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Curt Holland had a very nice write up on making a single 
> phase to three phase converter.  I took a look at his 
> website and couldn
> find it so maybe he can point you in the right direction.
> 

> I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up 
> dragging
> home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 
> 2-stage, 80
> gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded 
> it that I
> realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in 
> my
> garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would 
> work for
> this application, I would be interested in buying or trading 
> for this
> 3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know 
> much about
> the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd 
> probably
> need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase 
> motor I'd be
> swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of 
> the
> information on the motor tag:
> 
> Frame- 184T
> Horsepower- 5
> Volts- 208-230/460
> Amps- 14.8-14/7
> RPM- 1725
> NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
> Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
> PF- 80%
> 
> I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit 
> for a
> complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade. 
> I do not
> need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal 
> on it, so
> I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 
> gallon
> single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor 
> or the
> whole compressor if anyone is interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
Tony, a convertor is not usually suited to a compressor. Arotary convertor would require at least a 7.5hp idler motor, thiw would have to run all the while the compressor is being used. A static convertor reduces the ouput of the 3 phase motor so it wouldn't run the compressor, on a mill or lathe you seldom need the full hp, a compressor does. Since you don't need the full ouput of this compressor I would look for a 3hp moptor and a smaller drive pulley. A 5hp single phase should work in place of the 3 phase with the same pulley, hp is hp. It will pull more amps on the 2 legs, but the total will be close to the 3 phase on three legs. The smaller motor should be cheaper and easier to find, the smaller pulley will reduce the load on the motor, you will have to check the amps under load to be sure it's not overloaded. Ssmaller pulley =l reduced load, lower amperage,  compressor turning slower, reduced output. Single phase motors are usually harder to find used, most people can't use 3 phase at home.
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 00:23:25 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:23:25 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com> <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Bob Willman <blcksmth at wcnet.org> wrote:
> I also got the light show - audio but no video.
>
>
>
>  Bob Willman

Bob & Gary:

Did you try the later .wmv files instead of the .avi ones?

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From plb at iinet.net.au  Mon Mar 10 02:51:26 2008
From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:51:26 +0900
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>

The only problem I had downloading was it was slow. It came in at 25 kb/sec
and my connection is good for 230. The video quality was far superior to
Youtube.
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 4:49 PM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips

I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
at Portland last summer.

As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
feedback as to how they come out.

The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen
format:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 03:48:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:48:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Ray And Erica Freeman <plb at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> The only problem I had downloading was it was slow. It came in at 25 kb/sec
>  and my connection is good for 230. The video quality was far superior to
>  Youtube.
>  Ray Freeman
>  Perth WA

Which server did you use, Ray?

You're almost halfway between the two, but I'd be interested to see
how they compare.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 04:17:37 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:17:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100417y2e4a6120r534628ef9a369925@mail.gmail.com>

The .avi files have been removed this morning.

File # 4, 5, 8 and 9 have been added, so the complete list is:

Portland4.wmv to Portland5.wmv

and

Portland9.wmv  through Portland25.wmv inclusive.

Portland9 is the 100hp Fairbanks-Morse complete start-up sequence from
the operator's end of the engine, but it is quite long.

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
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http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From nancydick at pennswoods.net  Mon Mar 10 04:31:42 2008
From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:31:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <20080310113144.4E753229CDE@md5.pennswoods.net>

Tony harbor freight had a 6 hp motor on sale last week for $189.99.
Have one on the shelf just in case
R Fink
PA




At 12:19 PM 3/9/2008 -0600, you wrote:

>Hi all,
>I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in
>restoring old engines, so that's close.
>
>I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging
>home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80
>gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I
>realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my
>garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for
>this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this
>3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about
>the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably
>need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be
>swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the
>information on the motor tag:
>
>Frame- 184T
>Horsepower- 5
>Volts- 208-230/460
>Amps- 14.8-14/7
>RPM- 1725
>NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
>Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
>PF- 80%
>
>I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a
>complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not
>need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so
>I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon
>single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the
>whole compressor if anyone is interested.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>Tony Kimmell
>Bloomington, IL
>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Mar 10 07:19:14 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:19:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <20080310113144.4E753229CDE@md5.pennswoods.net>
References: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
	<20080310113144.4E753229CDE@md5.pennswoods.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080310091354.02f7a250@pop3.wcoil.com>

This motor is not suitable to replace the motor he has or he needs. The 
motor he needs is going to be in the $300-$400- price range. No exceptions 
unless its a cheap China motor. Because in reality the 5 hp motor he needs 
produces more HP then the 6 hp sold thru Harbor 
freight.               TTYL,  Mark

At 06:31 AM 3/10/08, you wrote:
>Tony harbor freight had a 6 hp motor on sale last week for $189.99.
>Have one on the shelf just in case
>R Fink
>PA
>
>
>
>
>At 12:19 PM 3/9/2008 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in
> >restoring old engines, so that's close.
> >
> >I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging
> >home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80
> >gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I
> >realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my
> >garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for
> >this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this
> >3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about
> >the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably
> >need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be
> >swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the
> >information on the motor tag:
> >
> >Frame- 184T
> >Horsepower- 5
> >Volts- 208-230/460
> >Amps- 14.8-14/7
> >RPM- 1725
> >NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
> >Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
> >PF- 80%
> >
> >I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a
> >complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not
> >need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so
> >I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon
> >single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the
> >whole compressor if anyone is interested.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--
> >Tony Kimmell
> >Bloomington, IL
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >SEL mailing list
> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> >
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Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
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them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 10 07:29:21 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:29:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <00a701c882bb$2995d680$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

If you want to grab YouTube vids before they disappear , and they WILL ! 
KeepVid.Com  works real  well . 
Chuck 


From garyepps at fidnet.com  Mon Mar 10 07:46:06 2008
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:46:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>
	<000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
	<6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D549AE.30101@fidnet.com>

The .wmv file I downloaded played very well with great clarity.  The 
quality of the video was excellent.  I downloaded only one and will wait 
to view the others when I have more time.  I'm on a very slow dial-up.  
I'm a little over 1000 feet too far from the phone co. to get DSL.  I 
really like where I live, but this is one price I pay, the other is it's 
several miles to anyplace I go to from here.  The town I attend church 
in is only16 miles away by air, but is 50 miles by road.

Today we are going to Springfield, MO to do some shopping and I expect 
to put a minimum of 225 miles on the car.

Gary

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 10/03/2008, Bob Willman <blcksmth at wcnet.org> wrote:
>   
>> I also got the light show - audio but no video.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Bob Willman
>>     
>
> Bob & Gary:
>
> Did you try the later .wmv files instead of the .avi ones?
>
> Peter
>   


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 08:27:25 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:27:25 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <47D549AE.30101@fidnet.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com> <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
	<6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D549AE.30101@fidnet.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100827m4a57af6u69ab17d35e69e0aa@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Gary Epps <garyepps at fidnet.com> wrote:
> The .wmv file I downloaded played very well with great clarity.  The
>  quality of the video was excellent.  I downloaded only one and will wait
>  to view the others when I have more time.  I'm on a very slow dial-up.
>  I'm a little over 1000 feet too far from the phone co. to get DSL.  I
>  really like where I live, but this is one price I pay, the other is it's
>  several miles to anyplace I go to from here.  The town I attend church
>  in is only16 miles away by air, but is 50 miles by road.
>
>  Today we are going to Springfield, MO to do some shopping and I expect
>  to put a minimum of 225 miles on the car.
>
>
>  Gary

I'll bring some CD's to Portland with the files on....

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 10 08:42:30 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:42:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [Help moving old Iron
In-Reply-To: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W42ACBF29F82C1E4A7931A9950E0@phx.gbl>


> Is anyone  in the vicinity of San Antonio Texas coming to Portland Swap Meet, Cool Springs or Portland Show, that could haul a small 2hp tank cooled engine only, (no cart, or cooling tank)? I would gladly cover gas expenses or work out some freight. Or coming through western North Carolina? I would appreciate any help getting my rusty Iron closer to home. Thanks Steve Royster 
_________________________________________________________________
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 10 12:06:43 2008
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:06:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>

I have a similar opportunity and am thinking of using a gas engine with an 
electric clutch.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jbcast at charter.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors


>
> ---- JIM KIRKES <jd.kirkes at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Curt Holland had a very nice write up on making a single
>> phase to three phase converter.  I took a look at his
>> website and couldn
>> find it so maybe he can point you in the right direction.
>>
>
>> I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up
>> dragging
>> home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis
>> 2-stage, 80
>> gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded
>> it that I
>> realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in
>> my
>> garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would
>> work for
>> this application, I would be interested in buying or trading
>> for this
>> 3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know
>> much about
>> the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd
>> probably
>> need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase
>> motor I'd be
>> swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of
>> the
>> information on the motor tag:
>>
>> Frame- 184T
>> Horsepower- 5
>> Volts- 208-230/460
>> Amps- 14.8-14/7
>> RPM- 1725
>> NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
>> Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
>> PF- 80%
>>
>> I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit
>> for a
>> complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.
>> I do not
>> need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal
>> on it, so
>> I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60
>> gallon
>> single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor
>> or the
>> whole compressor if anyone is interested.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Tony Kimmell
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
> Tony, a convertor is not usually suited to a compressor. Arotary convertor 
> would require at least a 7.5hp idler motor, thiw would have to run all the 
> while the compressor is being used. A static convertor reduces the ouput 
> of the 3 phase motor so it wouldn't run the compressor, on a mill or lathe 
> you seldom need the full hp, a compressor does. Since you don't need the 
> full ouput of this compressor I would look for a 3hp moptor and a smaller 
> drive pulley. A 5hp single phase should work in place of the 3 phase with 
> the same pulley, hp is hp. It will pull more amps on the 2 legs, but the 
> total will be close to the 3 phase on three legs. The smaller motor should 
> be cheaper and easier to find, the smaller pulley will reduce the load on 
> the motor, you will have to check the amps under load to be sure it's not 
> overloaded. Ssmaller pulley =l reduced load, lower amperage,  compressor 
> turning slower, reduced output. Single phase motors are usually harder to 
> find used, most people can'!
> t use 3 phase at home.
> J.B. Castagnos
> Belle Rose, LA
>
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From endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 10 16:11:20 2008
From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:11:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57298.52191.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello Again,
    Since you've dropped te AVI's in Favor of WMV's it's a Moot point anyway. My Suspicion is
  they simply weren't being encoded properly on the server. As Same file crashed MP2 MP6 MP7 MP9 WinAmp's Video Nero's Video player.  Under the following OS's Win98SE XP-Pro Windows 2000 Pro  Windows 2000Pro Server And Windows 2003 Pro Server. 
  ( I am a computer repair technician) 
   
    The WMV's on the other hand are playing Perfectly on ALL players I use !  
  What prompted you to change format ? (Just out of curiosity.) 
   
    You might consider making Video's like these everywhere you go. And Offer them on CD
  to the members of the list who don't have Broadband. I Noticed a few posts as to Download time issues. This might be a good solution. And a Nice way to preserve these meets for those who aren't able to attend.
   
     Nice Work. Looking forward to seeing the rest of them this evening.

Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
  On 09/03/2008, S. Work wrote:
> Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.
>

They all open and run correctly in Windows Media Player.

They were all checked for running before we uploaded them, might be
worth checking which version of WMP you are using.

We are running Win2kPro with Firefox, Opera and IE6. All of these
browsers download and run the files.

Sorry you can't see them, but we have checked in as many formats as
possible before uploading them.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 13:29:57 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:29:57 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Ed stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have a similar opportunity and am thinking of using a gas engine with an
>  electric clutch.
>
>  Ed

One of the problems in changing over to a single-phase motor is the
much heavier starting current required, especially when starting
against pressure in the tank. A start/run motor with a separate
starting winding might be too heavy on current for a domestic supply.

The phase changer using a 3-phase motor and capacitors is a good way
to go, and is invariably cheaper than buying a new single-phase motor,
assuming you can get one the right size and mounting.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 10 18:09:06 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:09:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [Help moving old Iron
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W42ACBF29F82C1E4A7931A9950E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080310210906.Q76K6.264842.root@fepweb15>



> > Is anyone  in the vicinity of San Antonio Texas coming to Portland Swap Meet, Cool Springs or Portland Show, that could haul a small 2hp tank cooled engine only, (no cart, or cooling tank)? I would gladly cover gas expenses or work out some freight. Or coming through western North Carolina? I would appreciate any help getting my rusty Iron closer to home. Thanks Steve Royster 

Steve, some of the guys are going to Coolspring if you can get it a ride to Louisiana
, I'm not making the trip but I'll ask them for you.
J.B. Castagnos
Donaldsonville, LA


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Mar 10 18:39:31 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:39:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Peter,

Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader to
avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised that
"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.

See ya,  Anrie

Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:

> One of the problems in changing over to a single-phase motor is the
> much heavier starting current required, especially when starting
> against pressure in the tank. 


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 13:53:06 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:53:06 +0200
Subject: [SEL] More Video.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Following Peter Forbes' Portland video uploads and the resultant 
discussion on the lists I was prompted to "get off my butt" and play with 
some video again. I've been meaning to do this for some time - just needed 
a nudge!

         I've uploaded a video of my 6 H.P. Wolseley Type "R" (1928) 
running this evening.
43 seconds -320 x 240 pixels - 2.7 Mbytes.  It's a .wmv file and should 
play on Windoze Media Player.
         I'd be interested to know if anyone has a problem playing it 
(please mention what version of Windoze you are using as well a Windoze 
Media Player version.)

         I've added it to my page about the Wolseley - please scroll down 
to just before the picture links to find it. There is also some technical 
gobbledygook about how it was made.

<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 10 18:56:07 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:56:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001601c8831b$12d53f20$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

 Milton has them as a stock item , just walk into your local auto parts tore 
, specify your NPT size , and off ya go !

> Hi Peter,
>
> Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader 
> to
> avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised 
> that
> "modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
 



From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Mon Mar 10 18:59:15 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:59:15 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
Message-ID: <cd9.27248004.35074173@aol.com>

 
Hi Arnie,
 
The unloaders are available.  I have a compressor run by a 5 HP  Briggs.  The 
engine runs continually, with the unloader opening when tank  pressure is 
achieved.  What it doesn't have is an idler device.  Wish  it did.
Ron 
 
 
In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:41:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

Hi  Peter,

Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal  unloader to
avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm  really surprised 
that
"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the  same.

See ya,  Anrie


 



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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 10 19:12:05 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:12:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
	<6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>


>
> Which server did you use, Ray?
>
> You're almost halfway between the two, but I'd be interested to see
> how they compare.
>
> Peter

Good doG Peter, stop justifying your stupid assed choice and put the  
damned videos on yourtube so that everyone can enjoy them!
	Dave


From alharris44 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 19:16:07 2008
From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:16:07 +1100
Subject: [SEL] More Video.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <47D5EB67.6060907@gmail.com>

G'day Jerry,

Ran fine on WMP, MPlayer Classic and GMPlayer(GNU).

Looked good at 640x480 and sounded nice.

Couple of bugs at the end, but, what the heck. ;-)

Ta,
Al Harris

Jerry Evans wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>          Following Peter Forbes' Portland video uploads and the resultant 
> discussion on the lists I was prompted to "get off my butt" and play with 
> some video again. I've been meaning to do this for some time - just needed 
> a nudge!
> 
>          I've uploaded a video of my 6 H.P. Wolseley Type "R" (1928) 
> running this evening.
> 43 seconds -320 x 240 pixels - 2.7 Mbytes.  It's a .wmv file and should 
> play on Windoze Media Player.
>          I'd be interested to know if anyone has a problem playing it 
> (please mention what version of Windoze you are using as well a Windoze 
> Media Player version.)
> 
>          I've added it to my page about the Wolseley - please scroll down 
> to just before the picture links to find it. There is also some technical 
> gobbledygook about how it was made.
> 
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>
> 
> 
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
> 
> 
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon Mar 10 20:28:43 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:28:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBEEMGGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Arnie & Peter:

WW Grainger Company here in the Colonies carries an inline unloader if your compressor is not equipped with one.  It just splices into the line between the compressor and the tank.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> fero_ah at city-net.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 08:40 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured 
> a centrifugal unloader to
> avoid the "starting against tank pressure" 
> problem.  I'm really surprised that
> "modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
> 
> See ya,  Anrie
> 
> Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:
> 
> > One of the problems in changing over to a 
> single-phase motor is the
> > much heavier starting current required, 
> especially when starting
> > against pressure in the tank. 
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 14:50:40 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:50:40 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
Message-ID: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>

I have put together a menu that allows you to click on an image and be
taken to the video file, which will then run in Windows Media Player.

The three main browsers all treat this differently, so you'll have to
experiment with your own preferences to get the best out of it.

IE6 worked best for me, keeping the menu page in the background and
running the video on top in the foreground.

Opera and Firefox both dashed off to get the video file and then
returned to the menu page once ithey had enough code to stream the
video.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm
or
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm

Choose the website that is closest to you, it does make a big
difference on download times.

There is no icon on the main menus yet, so you'll have to bookmark the
links until I get time to update the menuing.

The lead image for each page has the file size on the image itself. If
there is more than one menu image for the video file then only the
first one will have the size.

Let me know if anyone has any problems please.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Mar 10 20:38:46 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:38:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <006401c88329$69b33870$726f4b47@mikecomp>

An idea "borrowed" from the Brunner Corp., a superior competitor.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors


> Hi Peter,
>
> Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader 
> to
> avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised 
> that
> "modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
>
> See ya,  Anrie
>
> Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:
>
>> One of the problems in changing over to a single-phase motor is the
>> much heavier starting current required, especially when starting
>> against pressure in the tank.
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 23:54:23 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:54:23 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
	<6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803102354q166a3713obf40e46e785b9706@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, David Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:
> Good doG Peter, stop justifying your stupid assed choice and put the
>  damned videos on yourtube so that everyone can enjoy them!
>         Dave

There are already some there, Dave, but unless your eyesight is so bad
that you cannot see anyway, you wouldn't want to look at them.

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 01:40:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:40:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <57298.52191.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<57298.52191.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803110140n70170734g613a649196be8ca0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, S. Work <endacomm10 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Again,
>     Since you've dropped te AVI's in Favor of WMV's it's a Moot point anyway. My Suspicion is
>   they simply weren't being encoded properly on the server. As Same file crashed MP2 MP6 MP7 MP9 WinAmp's Video Nero's Video player.  Under the following OS's Win98SE XP-Pro Windows 2000 Pro  Windows 2000Pro Server And Windows 2003 Pro Server.
>   ( I am a computer repair technician)
>
>     The WMV's on the other hand are playing Perfectly on ALL players I use !
>   What prompted you to change format ? (Just out of curiosity.)
>
>     You might consider making Video's like these everywhere you go. And Offer them on CD
>   to the members of the list who don't have Broadband. I Noticed a few posts as to Download time issues. This might be a good solution. And a Nice way to preserve these meets for those who aren't able to attend.
>
>      Nice Work. Looking forward to seeing the rest of them this evening.

I think that as so many folks did get the .avi files downloaded and
working, that a server problem is unlikely, but as you say, it's a
moot point now.

The change over to .wmv was made as it was obvious that it was causing
unexpected problems with the .avi format, and it was quite simple to
change the format and re-send the files to the two sites.

As I posted elsewhere, as I have the video editing software, and
DirectX9 loaded, I didn't 'see' any file format problems at my end.

If I get the time, I will chop out individual engine scenes and make
up some video 'quickies' featuring just one engine and one scene of 15
seconds or so run time.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 11 03:15:16 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:15:16 +1100
Subject: [SEL] IHC vertical famous info wanted please
Message-ID: <004c01c88360$cdcb4910$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi All
First of all, thanks to all those who have helped with my request for IHC 
2hp famous vertical info, it is greatly appreciated.

I have another request, can anyone supply me with good close-up photos of 
the pushrod, the clamp and the trip finger thingy that trips the ignitor, 
please.
And also possible measurements of the trip finger thingy !!! what is that 
part made of, is it spring steel or hardened steel?

Thanks in advance

Regards
Peter, Oz



From endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 03:15:37 2008
From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:15:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <929072.32624.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello Again,
    Sorry if I'm getting these a bit out of order, ..
   
     My Point was... (Upon review I realized I didn't include) With the Many Users all looking at the same time (Possibly) Your server may have dropped the first few frames of the file when (I) got them..  As the copy in my Cache didn't have a complete header block for AVI Files.. And I Suppose due to mental deteoration due to my 30+ Years of fighting with Internet Servers.  I Neglected to "Clear my Cache" between attempts. All that aside.. This thread is getting a bit too busy..  <Smile>  I'm just HAPPY that you take time to personally address everyone's comments !   <MAJOR KUDO'S> on your work.  
   
     On a Somewhat unrelated note, I Noticed somewhere in this thread. That you are hosting these yourself ? Or did I Mis read ?  My Pipe is only 6 Mbps down, and 768 Kbps Up...
     Is yours Similar ? If so might want to set a Max Connects limit.
   
    Sorry, got stuck in RT Mode...  Feel free to drop me an E-Mail  (Off List) If I can be of any service.  Endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Will reach me almost instantly.
   
  

Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
  On 09/03/2008, S. Work wrote:
> Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.
>

They all open and run correctly in Windows Media Player.

They were all checked for running before we uploaded them, might be
worth checking which version of WMP you are using.

We are running Win2kPro with Firefox, Opera and IE6. All of these
browsers download and run the files.

Sorry you can't see them, but we have checked in as many formats as
possible before uploading them.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 04:49:39 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:49:39 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <929072.32624.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<929072.32624.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803110449s2f671c88u38a208fd061e3784@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, S. Work <endacomm10 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Again,
>     Sorry if I'm getting these a bit out of order, ..
>
>      My Point was... (Upon review I realized I didn't include) With the Many Users all looking at the same time (Possibly) Your server may have dropped the first few frames of the file when (I) got them..  As the copy in my Cache didn't have a complete header block for AVI Files.. And I Suppose due to mental deteoration due to my 30+ Years of fighting with Internet Servers.  I Neglected to "Clear my Cache" between attempts. All that aside.. This thread is getting a bit too busy..  <Smile>  I'm just HAPPY that you take time to personally address everyone's comments !   <MAJOR KUDO'S> on your work.
>
>      On a Somewhat unrelated note, I Noticed somewhere in this thread. That you are hosting these yourself ? Or did I Mis read ?  My Pipe is only 6 Mbps down, and 768 Kbps Up...
>      Is yours Similar ? If so might want to set a Max Connects limit.
>
>     Sorry, got stuck in RT Mode...  Feel free to drop me an E-Mail  (Off List) If I can be of any service.  Endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Will reach me almost instantly.
>

Happy to clear the misunderstanding up.

Oldengine.org is a free hosting website for engine nuts like us.

Stationary-engine.co.uk and Oldengine.co.uk are 'paid-for' sites that
we fund ourselves, it's about $150 a year, as long as we don't exceed
bandwidth and storage limits. The speed is particularly good though,
which is why we chose that location for it.

Our DSL varies, but is supposed to be 500k up and 8mb down, but like
most DSL it varies with how many are on the system. We are close to
the town and exchange so get a pretty good supply.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Tue Mar 11 05:00:56 2008
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:00:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com><001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au><6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001001c8836f$91c64dc0$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

The area halfway between the two is called the 'taint.
Skip

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips


>
>>
>> Which server did you use, Ray?
>>
>> You're almost halfway between the two, but I'd be interested to see
>> how they compare.
>>
>> Peter
>
> Good doG Peter, stop justifying your stupid assed choice and put the
> damned videos on yourtube so that everyone can enjoy them!
> Dave
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 06:22:08 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:22:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Arnie,
Some still do use centrifugal unloaders but they are the High end machines 
where a real 5 hp will cost you $2500- $3500.  Very few people on the list 
have ever actually seen a good high end machine in real life for sale on a 
sales floor. As a rule what you see on a sales floor today from Harbor 
Freight to the big box stores is a compromise for a real compressor. A lot 
of compromises made to deliver a compressor unit at a competative price in 
a very competative market.  Most of the time when you wonder why you don't 
see something, all you have to do is think money and thats where the answer 
usually lays.
  Two of the big names in cetrifugal unloaders was Curtis and Ingersol 
Rand. The Curtis is external mechanism and the Ingersol is internal.
  Top end Quincys are oil pressure unloaders. The Quincy system is a 
SWeeeeeeet unloader.
If you ever seen and heard a Quincy in operation the way they were intended 
you would simply fall in love. Yah just do not want to be moving  them 
around much, they are a brute of a machine, but oh so sweet.
                           TTYL,   Mark

At 08:39 PM 3/10/08, you wrote:
>Hi Peter,
>
>Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader to
>avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised that
>"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
>
>See ya,  Anrie




From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 06:27:28 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:27:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <cd9.27248004.35074173@aol.com>
References: <cd9.27248004.35074173@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311082318.02f7a720@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Ron, That is not a centrifugal unloader thats pressure actuated.
If you want to install an idler device they are available. We keep them in 
stock. If your unloader has a tank pressure port that opens when the unit 
reaches pressure you install a air actuated cylinder with a throttle cable 
linked to the carburetor.                TTYL,  Mark

At 08:59 PM 3/10/08, you wrote:
>
>Hi Arnie,
>
>The unloaders are available.  I have a compressor run by a 5 HP  Briggs.  The
>engine runs continually, with the unloader opening when tank  pressure is
>achieved.  What it doesn't have is an idler device.  Wish  it did.
>Ron
>
>
>In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:41:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>fero_ah at city-net.com writes:
>
>Hi  Peter,
>
>Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal  unloader to
>avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm  really surprised
>that
>"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the  same.
>
>See ya,  Anrie
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From plb at iinet.net.au  Tue Mar 11 06:07:55 2008
From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:07:55 +0900
Subject: [SEL] FW:  Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
Message-ID: <007101c88378$ebd1f9a0$c375ece0$@net.au>



I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
with lesser quality on "yourtube"
Ray Freeman
Perth
WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 6:51 AM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu

I have put together a menu that allows you to click on an image and be
taken to the video file, which will then run in Windows Media Player.

The three main browsers all treat this differently, so you'll have to
experiment with your own preferences to get the best out of it.

IE6 worked best for me, keeping the menu page in the background and
running the video on top in the foreground.

Opera and Firefox both dashed off to get the video file and then
returned to the menu page once ithey had enough code to stream the
video.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm
or
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm

Choose the website that is closest to you, it does make a big
difference on download times.

There is no icon on the main menus yet, so you'll have to bookmark the
links until I get time to update the menuing.

The lead image for each page has the file size on the image itself. If
there is more than one menu image for the video file then only the
first one will have the size.

Let me know if anyone has any problems please.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 11 07:31:23 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] More Video.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEMMGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

The video came through just fine.  

I need to study your silencer some more with the Hoyt-Clagwell in mind.  What formula did you use to determine the size and number of holes in the tubes?

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 03:53 PM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] More Video.
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
>          Following Peter Forbes' Portland video 
> uploads and the resultant 
> discussion on the lists I was prompted to "get 
> off my butt" and play with 
> some video again. I've been meaning to do this 
> for some time - just needed 
> a nudge!
> 
>          I've uploaded a video of my 6 H.P. 
> Wolseley Type "R" (1928) 
> running this evening.
> 43 seconds -320 x 240 pixels - 2.7 Mbytes.  It's 
> a .wmv file and should 
> play on Windoze Media Player.
>          I'd be interested to know if anyone has 
> a problem playing it 
> (please mention what version of Windoze you are 
> using as well a Windoze 
> Media Player version.)
> 
>          I've added it to my page about the 
> Wolseley - please scroll down 
> to just before the picture links to find it. 
> There is also some technical 
> gobbledygook about how it was made.
> 
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/
index.htm>


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 07:09:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:09:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] FW: Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
In-Reply-To: <007101c88378$ebd1f9a0$c375ece0$@net.au>
References: <007101c88378$ebd1f9a0$c375ece0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803110709h30d5d250ye441a7ac01bab4b0@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, Ray And Erica Freeman <plb at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>  I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
>  as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
>  would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
>  with lesser quality on "yourtube"
>  Ray Freeman
>  Perth
>  WA
>

Glad they came through OK. Interesting that Oldengine was quicker than
Stationary-Engine, although the time of day may have had a bearing on
that.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From reinagcm at chibardun.net  Tue Mar 11 09:58:40 2008
From: reinagcm at chibardun.net (Glen and Carol Reinagle)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
Message-ID: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>

Hi,

Where can I find a parts list for a Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T and the spects for bore and stroke of the cylinder?  I have checked on the internet and the only place having a parts list was Plough in Austrailia and I haven't received a response from them even though I sent the request for postage over two weeks ago.

Glen


From plb at iinet.net.au  Mon Mar 10 21:30:16 2008
From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:30:16 +0900
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005601c88330$9b50ece0$d1f2c6a0$@net.au>

I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
with lesser quality on "yourtube"
Ray Freeman
Perth
WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 6:51 AM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu

I have put together a menu that allows you to click on an image and be
taken to the video file, which will then run in Windows Media Player.

The three main browsers all treat this differently, so you'll have to
experiment with your own preferences to get the best out of it.

IE6 worked best for me, keeping the menu page in the background and
running the video on top in the foreground.

Opera and Firefox both dashed off to get the video file and then
returned to the menu page once ithey had enough code to stream the
video.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm
or
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm

Choose the website that is closest to you, it does make a big
difference on download times.

There is no icon on the main menus yet, so you'll have to bookmark the
links until I get time to update the menuing.

The lead image for each page has the file size on the image itself. If
there is more than one menu image for the video file then only the
first one will have the size.

Let me know if anyone has any problems please.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From oldengines at bigpond.com  Tue Mar 11 11:23:06 2008
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:23:06 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<47D1F760.3020407@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c883a4$f384a1d0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Hi All
thank you for all your prayers and support off and on list.
Liz had 4 of the top 1/3 of right hand fingers  chopped  off and only the 
ring finger was a successful rejoin .Her spiits have been down but she was a 
little better today and once they stop the pain killers she will get back to 
herself..
thanks again
Ron & Liz Sullivan
oldengines at bigpond.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT Accident


> This is terrible news Patrick.  Having had the end of a finger amputated
> and reattached about 5 years ago, I know on a small scale what she is
> going through.  There are so many nerve endings in the fingers that
> reattachment surgery can be very painful for a long time after its
> over.  I had the tip of my right middle finger pinched off about 2
> months ago.  They sewed it back and its healing and no more pain.  This
> wasn't nearly as serious as the other accident I had as it didn't cut
> the bone off, just tissue.  Still hurt though.  We'll be saying some
> prayers for Liz.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone wrote:
>
>>Hi folks.
>> Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
>>Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. 
>>She
>>had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
>>the fingers.
>>Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try 
>>and
>>keep everyone informed.
>>The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
>>still having problems with blood flow.
>>I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>Leichhardt NSW
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Mar 11 10:29:24 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:29:24 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 48, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1205251203.30918.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080311192755.00bcbec0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 11/03/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:16:07 +1100
>From: Al Harris <alharris44 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video.
>G'day Jerry,
>Ran fine on WMP, MPlayer Classic and GMPlayer(GNU).
>Looked good at 640x480 and sounded nice.

>Couple of bugs at the end, but, what the heck. ;-)
>Ta,
>Al Harris

Hi Al :-)
         "dems not bugs - dems moths" <smile>

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Mar 11 10:26:50 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:26:50 +0200
Subject: [SEL] More Video./now silencer.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1205251203.30918.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080311190646.00bcbb70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:23 -0500
>From: "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video.
>Jerry:
>The video came through just fine.
>I need to study your silencer some more with the Hoyt-Clagwell in 
>mind.  What formula did you use to determine the size and number of holes 
>in the tubes?
>Take care - Elden

Hi Elden,
         There is a description of the silencer here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/silencer.htm>.
or a drawing from the same page here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/sil2.jpg>

         On this one I did not use any formula - just made sure the total 
"surface area" of all the holes in each of the baffle tubes was not less 
than the surface area of the inlet hole (ie. no back pressure worth 
mentioning). You will notice that the 2nd baffle tube is interchangeable 
with a "free flow" tube for when I feel like making a bit of noise but 
actually this engine runs so quietly that there is very little difference 
when it's idling along - of course, if I put a load on it there would be a 
big difference.

         The silencer I made for the Maytag needed a bit of back pressure 
and you can read about it here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/maytag/muffler.htm>

         I know very little (actually nothing :-)) about muffler design - 
pretty much just stumble along and end up with something that works. <grin>

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Tue Mar 11 12:14:00 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:14:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
In-Reply-To: <003e01c883a4$f384a1d0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>	<47D1F760.3020407@scrtc.com>
	<003e01c883a4$f384a1d0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
Message-ID: <47D6D9F8.4020308@scrtc.com>

Ron,
    Tell her to keep her spirits up and be patient.  It will be quite a 
while before the healing really takes hold and also let here know that 
things will look much better in 6 months than they do today.  I know 
when I amputated my left ring finger It looked terrible for a long 
time.  Then the healing took over and now its just part of me.  Here is 
an interesting news report that might have hope for those of us who have 
had finger injuries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H73dfmFhMNM

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Ron Sullivan wrote:

>Hi All
>thank you for all your prayers and support off and on list.
>Liz had 4 of the top 1/3 of right hand fingers  chopped  off and only the 
>ring finger was a successful rejoin .Her spiits have been down but she was a 
>little better today and once they stop the pain killers she will get back to 
>herself..
>thanks again
>Ron & Liz Sullivan
>oldengines at bigpond.com
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT Accident
>
>
>  
>
>>This is terrible news Patrick.  Having had the end of a finger amputated
>>and reattached about 5 years ago, I know on a small scale what she is
>>going through.  There are so many nerve endings in the fingers that
>>reattachment surgery can be very painful for a long time after its
>>over.  I had the tip of my right middle finger pinched off about 2
>>months ago.  They sewed it back and its healing and no more pain.  This
>>wasn't nearly as serious as the other accident I had as it didn't cut
>>the bone off, just tissue.  Still hurt though.  We'll be saying some
>>prayers for Liz.
>>
>>Tommy Turner
>>Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi folks.
>>>Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
>>>Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. 
>>>She
>>>had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
>>>the fingers.
>>>Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try 
>>>and
>>>keep everyone informed.
>>>The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
>>>still having problems with blood flow.
>>>I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>>>
>>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>>Leichhardt NSW
>>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>    
>>
>
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>
>
>
>  
>



From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 11 13:58:12 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:58:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
In-Reply-To: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBEENGGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Glen:

I don't remember where I got the reprint booklet for my 2 hp Jack of All Trades (the same as the "T" but shipped without the subbase.).

Did you try such people as Lee Pedersen, Hit-N-Miss, etc.  It shouldn't be too hard to come by a reprint.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Glen and
> Carol Reinagle
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:59 AM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where can I find a parts list for a Fairbanks 
> Morse 2 hp Verticle T and the spects for bore and 
> stroke of the cylinder?  I have checked on the 
> internet and the only place having a parts list 
> was Plough in Austrailia and I haven't received a 
> response from them even though I sent the request 
> for postage over two weeks ago.
> 
> Glen
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 11 14:00:38 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:00:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] More Video./now silencer.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080311190646.00bcbb70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIENGGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

Thanks for the information.  I've already looked at your page and now know your 'formula'.  Makes sense to me!

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video./now silencer.
> 
> 
> 
> >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:23 -0500
> >From: "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
> >Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video.
> >Jerry:
> >The video came through just fine.
> >I need to study your silencer some more with the 
> Hoyt-Clagwell in 
> >mind.  What formula did you use to determine the 
> size and number of holes 
> >in the tubes?
> >Take care - Elden
> 
> Hi Elden,
>          There is a description of the silencer here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/
> silencer.htm>.
> or a drawing from the same page here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/
> sil2.jpg>
> 
>          On this one I did not use any formula - 
> just made sure the total 
> "surface area" of all the holes in each of the 
> baffle tubes was not less 
> than the surface area of the inlet hole (ie. no 
> back pressure worth 
> mentioning). You will notice that the 2nd baffle 
> tube is interchangeable 
> with a "free flow" tube for when I feel like 
> making a bit of noise but 
> actually this engine runs so quietly that there 
> is very little difference 
> when it's idling along - of course, if I put a 
> load on it there would be a 
> big difference.
> 
>          The silencer I made for the Maytag 
> needed a bit of back pressure 
> and you can read about it here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/maytag/muf
fler.htm>

         I know very little (actually nothing :-)) about muffler design - 
pretty much just stumble along and end up with something that works. <grin>

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Mar 11 14:58:58 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:58:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <006401c88329$69b33870$726f4b47@mikecomp>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<006401c88329$69b33870$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <1205272738.47d700a20d7fd@webmail.city-net.com>

Fer sure there was some "borrowing" going on, just a matter of properly
identifying the low life swiping the good ideas; sneaky Brunner bunch...
8-))

Here's the story on the goodun's.  
http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm

Quoting Mike Royster <mr at carolina.rr.com>:

> An idea "borrowed" from the Brunner Corp., a superior competitor.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> > Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader 




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Mar 11 15:08:42 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:08:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Mark,

Funny you should mention the really good high-end machines...
http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm

That was their undoing.  The damn things were so well built there was no need
for replacement compressors or replacement parts.  Unlike those POS Brunners...
 8-))

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>:

> Some still do use centrifugal unloaders but they are the High end machines 
> where a real 5 hp will cost you $2500- $3500.  Very few people on the list 
> have ever actually seen a good high end machine in real life for sale on a 
> sales floor. As a rule what you see on a sales floor today from Harbor 
> Freight to the big box stores is a compromise for a real compressor. A lot 
> of compromises made to deliver a compressor unit at a competative price in 
> a very competative market.  Most of the time when you wonder why you don't 
> see something, all you have to do is think money and thats where the answer 
> usually lays.




From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 17:25:50 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hey Arnie,
It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of 
the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it 
before.  TTYL,    Mark


At 05:08 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>
>Funny you should mention the really good high-end machines...
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm
>
>That was their undoing.  The damn things were so well built there was no need
>for replacement compressors or replacement parts.  Unlike those POS 
>Brunners...
>  8-))
>
>See ya,  Arnie

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 11 16:49:07 2008
From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:49:07 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
In-Reply-To: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>
References: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>
Message-ID: <BAY116-W39D94389D87B50052D7CFBBA0F0@phx.gbl>


Hi Glen, if you send me your postal address i can send you a copy of the parts instruction booklet,email off list please,regards dave in oz> From: reinagcm at chibardun.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500> Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T> > Hi,> > Where can I find a parts list for a Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T and the spects for bore and stroke of the cylinder? I have checked on the internet and the only place having a parts list was Plough in Austrailia and I haven't received a response from them even though I sent the request for postage over two weeks ago.> > Glen> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 11 16:49:36 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:49:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
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	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
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Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it  old Mike ended up marrying one of the two girls in the Fero acquisition  story but  SEL censorship issues keeps me from saying which one!      
 
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: frappi at wcoil.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Hey Arnie,> It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of > the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it > before. TTYL, Mark> > > At 05:08 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:> >Hi Mark,> >> >Funny you should mention the really good high-end machines...> >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm> >> >That was their undoing. The damn things were so well built there was no need> >for replacement compressors or replacement parts. Unlike those POS > >Brunners...> > 8-))> >> >See ya, Arnie> > Mark & Christine Shulaw> 454 Co. Rd. 33> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com> > Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.> Parts lists available on request.> > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206> No Sunday calls if possible.> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent > them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From riga_fire at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 17:19:34 2008
From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
Message-ID: <964998.7409.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A guy here in Michigan has rotary phase converters for sale. He is on "craigs list" at #580955483. This will hit toledo where I seen his add but it states he is in Michigan. I believe he sells them as a sideline. His phone is 989-823-8118. If you want to go this way. 
I wish I could find one of them at a sale! Looking for the Quincy as they are a good make.
 
Paul Russell 
Riga, MI. 49276
riga_fire at yahoo.com





----- Original Message ----
From: Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2008 2:19:34 PM
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors

Hi all,
I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in 
restoring old engines, so that's close.

I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging 
home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80 
gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I 
realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my 
garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for 
this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this 
3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about 
the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably 
need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be 
swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the 
information on the motor tag:

Frame- 184T
Horsepower- 5
Volts- 208-230/460
Amps- 14.8-14/7
RPM- 1725
NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
PF- 80%

I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a 
complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not 
need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so 
I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon 
single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the 
whole compressor if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL

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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Tue Mar 11 17:28:08 2008
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:28:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Take a look at this steam engine!
In-Reply-To: <1205272738.47d700a20d7fd@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <56F3DADA00614EF5A499D596A0763D0C@Glenns>

http://www.sialis.org/images/NABS2008/Image00008.html

Glenn



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 18:48:49 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:48:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
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	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311204627.030a49c0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Those wedding pics would make a GREAT photo album GRINNNN. Any idea if it 
were shot gun? LMAO! Oh Gods theres too many jokes in that kinda 
wedding.     Mark


At 06:49 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:

>Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it  old Mike ended up marrying one of the two 
>girls in the Fero acquisition  story but  SEL censorship issues keeps me 
>from saying which one!
>
> > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500> To: 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: frappi at wcoil.com> Subject: Re: 
> [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Hey Arnie,> It's always good to go back 
> and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of > the Fero, GRINN. 
> Recomended reading to all who have not read it > before. TTYL, Mark> > > 
> At 05:08 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:> >Hi Mark,> >> >Funny you should mention 
> the really good high-end 
> machines...> >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm> >> >That 
> was their undoing. The damn things were so well built there was no 
> need> >for replacement compressors or replacement parts. Unlike those 
> POS > >Brunners...> > 8-))> >> >See ya, Arnie> > Mark & Christine Shulaw> 
> 454 Co. Rd. 33> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com> > Your 
> one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.> Parts lists 
> available on request.> > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 
> 419.358.5206> No Sunday calls if possible.> I am not an employee or 
> licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent > them in any way 
> shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer 
> of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark> > >




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Mar 11 17:55:14 2008
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:55:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL]  John Deere Music  ?
Message-ID: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rex Hinz 
 
Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere stuff

just click the link after you read below

Rex Hinz 

            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI

            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEO!!


            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up in
            > catcher cones.
            > 
            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort between
            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School
            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of the
            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and Irrigation
            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
            > 
            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment,
            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you can see it
            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard
            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be donated to
            > the Smithsonian.
            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related

           
     
(See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv) 


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue Mar 11 18:09:16 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:09:16 +1100
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <015b01c883dd$b3562f00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Scam! Check Snopes.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rex Hinz" <rex002 at centurytel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music ?


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rex Hinz
>
> Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere 
> stuff
>
> just click the link after you read below
>
> Rex Hinz
>
>            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI
>
>            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING 
> THE VIDEO!!
>
>
>            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up 
> in
>            > catcher cones.
>            >
>            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort 
> between
>            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick 
> School
>            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of 
> the
>            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and 
> Irrigation
>            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
>            >
>            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, 
> alignment,
>            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you 
> can see it
>            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the 
> Matthew Gerhard
>            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be 
> donated to
>            > the Smithsonian.
>            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!
>
>            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related
>
>
>
> (See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Mar 11 18:36:04 2008
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:36:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <200803120101.m2C11lb5018271@mail924c35.nsolutionszone.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c883e1$716cdfe0$6400a8c0@home>

Your Right Reg , its a scam Just checked Snopes.com , Sorry for the mistake 
and my apologies to the list

Rex
.----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rex Hinz" <rex002 at centurytel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music ?


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rex Hinz
>
 



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Tue Mar 11 19:55:15 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:55:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <47D74613.5070405@scrtc.com>

That's an animation.  Nice though.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Rex Hinz wrote:

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Rex Hinz 
> 
>Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere stuff
>
>just click the link after you read below
>
>Rex Hinz 
>
>            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI
>
>            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEO!!
>
>
>            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up in
>            > catcher cones.
>            > 
>            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort between
>            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School
>            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of the
>            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and Irrigation
>            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
>            > 
>            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment,
>            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you can see it
>            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard
>            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be donated to
>            > the Smithsonian.
>            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!
>
>            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related
>
>           
>     
>(See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv) 
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>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
>  
>


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Mar 11 20:21:37 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:21:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com><1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com><6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com><1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002901c883f0$2f86c410$726f4b47@mikecomp>


Tsk tsk, where is the down side of marrying a young girl that likes to 
"traipse about nekid through the poison ivy?"

DUH???


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors



Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it  old Mike ended up marrying one of the two 
girls in the Fero acquisition  story but  SEL censorship issues keeps me 
from saying which one!




> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500> To: 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: frappi at wcoil.com> Subject: Re: 
> [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Hey Arnie,> It's always good to go back and 
> re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of > the Fero, GRINN. Recomended 
> reading to all who have not read it > before. TTYL, Mark> > > At 05:08 PM 
> 3/11/08, you wrote:> >Hi Mark,> >> >Funny you should mention the really 
> good high-end machines...> 
>  >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm> >> >That was their 
> undoing. The damn things were so well built there was no need> >for 
> replacement compressors or replacement parts. Unlike those POS > 
>  >Brunners...> > 8-))> >> >See ya, Arnie> > Mark & Christine Shulaw> 454 
> Co. Rd. 33> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com> > Your one 
> stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.> Parts lists available 
> on request.> > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 
> 419.358.5206> No Sunday calls if possible.> I am not an employee or 
> licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent > them in any way 
> shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer 
> of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark> > > 
> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> 
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 11 22:54:54 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:54:54 +1100
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <004601c88405$9fe02930$0200a8c0@altech>

What the full movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlVRdAU2-R0&feature=related

Peter, Oz




>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rex Hinz
>
> Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere 
> stuff
>
> just click the link after you read below
>
> Rex Hinz
>
>            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI
>
>            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING 
> THE VIDEO!!
>
>
>            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up 
> in
>            > catcher cones.
>            >
>            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort 
> between
>            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick 
> School
>            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of 
> the
>            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and 
> Irrigation
>            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
>            >
>            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, 
> alignment,
>            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you 
> can see it
>            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the 
> Matthew Gerhard
>            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be 
> donated to
>            > the Smithsonian.
>            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!
>
>            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related
>
>
>
> (See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 12 06:35:35 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:35:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
	<015b01c883dd$b3562f00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <005701c88445$fc84a360$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

> Scam! Check Snopes.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Gee ya think so  ?  And here's yet another , note that 
they got the song title wrong .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGEqlNU30Tg&feature=related
Here's a couple or three hours of mechanical music .
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2B3CC4A60C17449D



Chuck Balyeat 
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 08:31:47 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:31:47 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
In-Reply-To: <005601c88330$9b50ece0$d1f2c6a0$@net.au>
References: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>
	<005601c88330$9b50ece0$d1f2c6a0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803120831i5da195b1oe0eb9c80f6c85381@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, Ray And Erica Freeman <plb at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
>  as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
>  would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
>  with lesser quality on "yourtube"
>  Ray Freeman

Have a look at the'Quickie' video clips we've just done. They are in
wide-screen format which is what they were shot in originally, and
don't look 'squeezed' on the screen.

You may have to drag the sides of Windows Media Player out to show the
full width.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/PortlandQKXX.wmv

'XX' is the file number. Numbers 1 to 22 are up, smallest is about
0.8mb largest is 11mb.

We may have a DVD disc out of the camera that we haven't looked at yet...

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Mar 12 11:21:40 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:21:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1205346100.47d81f344587c@webmail.city-net.com>

Married her???  Hey Steve, I always thought it was that sexy babe he took with
him on those skin diving trips of his?  8->>>  Arnie

Quoting Steve Royster <steve_royster at hotmail.com>:

> Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it old Mike ended up marrying one of the two
> girls in the Fero acquisition story but SEL censorship issues keeps me from
> saying which one!      
>  
>  
> > From: frappi at wcoil.com
> > It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition
> > of the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it 
> > before.  http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 12 13:50:10 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:50:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205346100.47d81f344587c@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl> 
	<1205346100.47d81f344587c@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W300E84147DACF550027C2495080@phx.gbl>


Arnie, The Key word is  SKIN , them you will get to the DIVING part!  and you thought water was involved......  The good Oyster> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:21:40 -0500> From: fero_ah at city-net.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Married her??? Hey Steve, I always thought it was that sexy babe he took with> him on those skin diving trips of his? 8->>> Arnie> > Quoting Steve Royster <steve_royster at hotmail.com>:> > > Good Idea Mark, Rumor has it old Mike ended up marrying one of the two> > girls in the Fero acquisition story but SEL censorship issues keeps me from> > saying which one! > > > > > > > From: frappi at wcoil.com> > > It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition> > > of the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it > > > before. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 12 16:56:31 2008
From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:56:31 +1100
Subject: [SEL] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BAY116-W54C71080750FD9940CE4EDBA080@phx.gbl>


Hi All, hoping some one can help with the correct color scheme for the 4hp mogul engine and transport, i have only found one going through my tomm magazines and it didnt look to be the correct colors,cheers dave
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 11:15:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:15:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Videos
Message-ID: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>

The site will be down while we revamp the videos and let the server cool off.

Bandwidth went past 15gb against 1.5gb that we pay for.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
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http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Mar 14 12:02:00 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:02:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1205521320.47dacba8110b4@webmail.city-net.com>

Peter,

One suggestion...  Switch the videos of Reggie, Bambi, Nitro, and the sheep to a
"Pay-per-View" basis.  That should lower the bandwidth consumption and generate
some revenue.

See ya,  Anrie

Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:

> The site will be down while we revamp the videos and let the server cool
> off.
> Bandwidth went past 15gb against 1.5gb that we pay for.




From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat Mar 15 10:38:25 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:38:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Transport PA to Portland or Waukee
In-Reply-To: <223060.89776.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <223060.89776.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080315121912.02f25700@pop3.wcoil.com>

   A friend of mine bought a 5 hp Type F Hercules on Cart   thru E-Bay Last 
week, its In Kutztown PA   Kutzytown is smack dab betweeen Allen and 
Reading.  Is anyone around or passing thru there going to 
Portland,  Lesueur or Waukee?
Geoff the fellow that bought it is in the process of moving to Wisconsin so 
something to there would work too.  I am planning on going to a couple of 
those events and to Coolsprings in June too so if you can get it to 
Northwest Ohio or Coolsprings that would work.  Basically any points west 
could be made to work.  His email is Geoffrey Voorhees 
<geoffessuperbird at hotmail.com>

                                        Thanks,   Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
Bluffton, Ohio
Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
Home #419.358.5206





From George at irontrader.com  Sat Mar 15 10:57:24 2008
From: George at irontrader.com (George Best)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:57:24 -0700
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <454E20A79F454CF3B0809BD84FECCECB@NewHP>

When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often 
the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine 
part.
Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially 
if it is something you can use.

I've loaded a picture at this address:

www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg

To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
a replacement.

If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
if you don't take a guess. ;-)

George

ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting 
diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what 
it fits. 




From glenn.karch at att.net  Sat Mar 15 11:03:54 2008
From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:03:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <970415.37603.qm@web83707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

That spring looks like a pickup finger from a combine grain head.

Glenn



----- Original Message ----
From: George Best <George at irontrader.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:57:24 PM
Subject: [SEL] What is it?

When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often 
the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine 
part.
Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially 
if it is something you can use.

I've loaded a picture at this address:

www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg

To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
a replacement.

If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
if you don't take a guess. ;-)

George

ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting 
diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what 
it fits. 


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From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 11:08:26 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:08:26 EDT
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <c02.2ebbe1fd.350d6a9a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 12:02:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
George at irontrader.com writes:

If you  have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
if you  don't take a guess. ;-)

George



Hi George,
Looks like a kick starter return spring to me.
Ron



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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 11:15:59 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:15:59 EDT
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 2:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
George at irontrader.com writes:

While it  really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
a  replacement.


Trip finger spring off a New Holland engine, I think a 1/2 hp size.   Cliff 
Moyer in Pennsylvania sells replacement ones.
 

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Mar 15 11:59:45 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:59:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
References: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47DC1CA1.4000501@scrtc.com>

Tom, yes that's what it is.  It goes on the long rocker arm.  I believe 
that one is bigger than a 1/2 though.  I would guess at least a 1 1/2 
and could be a bit bigger.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Germoamer at aol.com wrote:

> 
>In a message dated 3/15/2008 2:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
>George at irontrader.com writes:
>
>While it  really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
>a  replacement.
>
>
>Trip finger spring off a New Holland engine, I think a 1/2 hp size.   Cliff 
>Moyer in Pennsylvania sells replacement ones.
> 
>
>Tom  Schmutz
>Concord,  Va.
>germaoamer at AOL.com
>
>
>
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From George at irontrader.com  Sat Mar 15 12:47:56 2008
From: George at irontrader.com (George Best)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:47:56 -0700
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
References: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D2D471A416C8422DB8A05144C84F81A7@NewHP>

You're right, although it is off of my 2hp engine.

I really didn't pay much attention to New Holland engines before I got mine. 
I was a bit surprised the more I worked on cleaning my engine up how 
complicated New Holland made some of the castings and other odd things 
unique to those engines.  I thought that spring was certainly different than 
any I've seen on other engines!

Good to know someone sells replacements although I hope to never need one.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] What is it?


>
> In a message dated 3/15/2008 2:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> George at irontrader.com writes:
>
> While it  really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to 
> find
> a  replacement.
>
>
> Trip finger spring off a New Holland engine, I think a 1/2 hp size. 
> Cliff
> Moyer in Pennsylvania sells replacement ones.
>
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germaoamer at AOL.com
>
>
>
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From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Mar 15 13:03:57 2008
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:03:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <454E20A79F454CF3B0809BD84FECCECB@NewHP>
References: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
	<454E20A79F454CF3B0809BD84FECCECB@NewHP>
Message-ID: <002f01c886d7$b6739d60$3464a8c0@Eagle>

	Looks like a spring from a windrowing rake for hay or straw to me. 


Bob Willman
Bowling Green, Ohio
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of George Best
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] What is it?

When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often
the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine
part.
Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially
if it is something you can use.

I've loaded a picture at this address:

www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg

To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find
a replacement.

If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for,
if you don't take a guess. ;-)

George

ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting
diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what
it fits. 


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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 15:03:23 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:23 EDT
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <d5d.1f73544b.350da1ab@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 3:52:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
George at irontrader.com writes:

Good to  know someone sells replacements although I hope to never need  one.



Cliff Moyer sells a number of repro items for the New Holland  engines. At 
least I assume he still does.  He is getting up in  years.  He also maintains a 
New Holland serial number list and is able to  determine the year built. 
 
ps.  I cheated on the test.  I had to go and look at mine to make  sure I was 
thinking right on what the spring was before i sent the answer   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germaoamer at AOL.com




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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Mar 15 15:55:35 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:55:35 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Happy Birthday
Message-ID: <20080315225530.YGJT11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Happy 60th Edd!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Sat Mar 15 16:59:39 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:59:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <005701c886f8$a23060b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Happy birthday Mate for your 60th, hope there is plenty more to come. Cheers 
Cam
Cam and Edwina Grundy
Kariong 2250
New South Wales
Australia. 


From oldengines at bigpond.com  Sat Mar 15 21:51:21 2008
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:51:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Happy Birthday
References: <20080315225530.YGJT11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001f01c88721$611e8600$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Happy Birthday Edd   Best Wishes
P.S I thought you was 70
Ron & Liz Sullivan
oldengines at bigpond.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: [SEL] OT Happy Birthday


> Happy 60th Edd!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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From oldengines at bigpond.com  Sat Mar 15 22:01:37 2008
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:01:37 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Off Topic Passing
Message-ID: <002601c88722$d081e270$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Hi All
This would mainly be 4 Australia . Don Ruby Of Yackandanda a well known restorer  Passed away by himself in his workshop doing what he loved working on some of his projects Don was a good family man and always put a hand out to help  anyone  and  He will be sadly missed
Ron & Liz Sullivan
oldengines at bigpond.com


From Peterwoodmore at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 22:06:01 2008
From: Peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peterwoodmore at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:01 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <d2d.23f91190.350e04b9@aol.com>

Happy 60th Ed and best wishes for a great milestone.

Peter Woodmore. 
peterwoodmore at aol.com
Skype name Woadmere   



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Mar 16 00:32:30 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:32:30 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
References: <d2d.23f91190.350e04b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001801c88737$e55122f0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

Thanks blokes.I thought it was the end of it all when I turned 30 now it's 
double that.Like my mum and dad said on there card.WE WERE THERE AT THE 
BEGINNING.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Peterwoodmore at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Birthday


> Happy 60th Ed and best wishes for a great milestone.
>
> Peter Woodmore.
> peterwoodmore at aol.com
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Mar 16 05:12:18 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:12:18 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <d05.2bbc7dcf.350e68a2@aol.com>

Happy birthday Edd!  Turned 64 myself in January. Can't wait till I get 65, 
on Medicare, and start getting some of Dave's money!  


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun Mar 16 05:42:28 2008
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:42:28 +0000
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <031620081242.4390.47DD15B400037F8700001126219791299503010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

George,
That is a pickup spring for a older hay rake.  Got an old Case hay rake that 
takes that style of spring and almost impossible to find new any more.  The 
rake was built back in the mid 1800's and on steel wheels normally pulled by 
horses but I still use mine with a tractor for windrowing hay.
regards,
Curt Andree


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "George Best" <George at irontrader.com>
To:      "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Date:    Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:39 +0000

> When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often 
> the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine 
> part.
> Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially 
> if it is something you can use.
> 
> I've loaded a picture at this address:
> 
> www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg
> 
> To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
> While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
> a replacement.
> 
> If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
> if you don't take a guess. ;-)
> 
> George
> 
> ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting 
> diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what 
> it fits. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun Mar 16 06:01:53 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:01:53 +1100
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
References: <031620081242.4390.47DD15B400037F8700001126219791299503010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c88765$e82cb5b0$0200a8c0@altech>

Should be able to get spares made from any spring making shop.
Peter, Oz





> George,
> That is a pickup spring for a older hay rake.  Got an old Case hay rake 
> that
> takes that style of spring and almost impossible to find new any more. 
> The
> rake was built back in the mid 1800's and on steel wheels normally pulled 
> by
> horses but I still use mine with a tractor for windrowing hay.
> regards,
> Curt Andree
>
>
> ----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
> From:    "George Best" <George at irontrader.com>
> To:      "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Subject: [SEL] What is it?
> Date:    Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:39 +0000
>
>> When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts 
>> often
>> the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine
>> part.
>> Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, 
>> especially
>> if it is something you can use.
>>
>> I've loaded a picture at this address:
>>
>> www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg
>>
>> To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something.
>> While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to 
>> find
>> a replacement.
>>
>> If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is 
>> for,
>> if you don't take a guess. ;-)
>>
>> George
>>
>> ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting
>> diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess 
>> what
>> it fits.
>>
>>
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From old_iron at msn.com  Sun Mar 16 13:54:29 2008
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:54:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
In-Reply-To: <001801c88737$e55122f0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
References: <d2d.23f91190.350e04b9@aol.com>
	<001801c88737$e55122f0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
Message-ID: <BLU137-W1058C2B9BFB8B9E910EC5BE7040@phx.gbl>


I also just had my 60th on Feb 18th.  Most of my "younger" friends keep telling me I don't "act" 60, I am still trying to figure out if that is a good or bad thing.
 
Happy Birthday Edd and may you have many more.
 
May good luck be with you
Wherever you go,
And your blessings outnumber,
The shamrocks that grow.
 
Peg Pfeiffer> From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:32:30 +1100> Subject: Re: [SEL] Birthday> > Thanks blokes.I thought it was the end of it all when I turned 30 now it's > double that.Like my mum and dad said on there card.WE WERE THERE AT THE > BEGINNING.> EDD PAYNE> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W> Australia> 2852> Phone:0263742387> edsengns at optusnet.com.au> edsengns> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Peterwoodmore at aol.com>> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:06 PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] Birthday> > > > Happy 60th Ed and best wishes for a great milestone.> >> > Peter Woodmore.> > peterwoodmore at aol.com> > Skype name Woadmere> >> > _______________________________________________> > SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Mar 16 18:02:59 2008
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:02:59 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
Message-ID: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>

About 4 or 5 years ago I took a Alamo flywheel engine to a 
show.  This engine has always been easy to start and a good 
runner.  It refused to run and I did some  show fixing but 
finally gave it up and brought it home and let it sit until 
now.  I decided to take it to an upcoming show and did not 
want to repeat the previous fiasco so I wheeled it into the 
shop and began to fiddle with it.  I got it started and 
convinced myself it was not getting a good fuel supply.  I 
took the fuel pump apart and made sure the check valves 
worked and put it back together with almost no change except 
maybe worse.  Well the next thing was to take the mixer 
apart, when in doubt take something apart, at the very least 
find something to twist.  This is an overflow mixer and 
there really is not much in it to go  wrong,  made sure 
everything was clear and put it back on the engine. I also 
took the mag/igniter out and checked the spark and it  made 
a nice fat blue spark. I got the engine started after some 
backfires and flooding which kind of surprised me as it 
never did this before. The engine was running but rather 
poorly and sometimes hitting the mag trip 4 or 5 times 
before firing.  I was a little perplexed, after all there is 
a pretty definite limit to what can be fixed on an engine 
like this. After watching this bad runner for a while it 
looked like the mag was not getting a very good trip.  I 
held the trip down with my finger so as to get more rotation 
on the mag armature and the everything smoothed right out. 
I took the trip off and reworked it so as to have a longer 
engagement and get a faster and longer rotation of the 
armature.  Problem solved, runs fine.

A mag works by turning the armature through the magnetic 
field.  The hottest spark will be produced by turning 
through the most lines of force as fast as possible.  The 
mag trip on this engine was one of those thing that wear 
very slowly until it finally does not work very well.  As 
this happens over a long time it can be hard to spot. The 
mag worked fine outside the engine with the hand trip.The 
hand trip never gets used so it works pretty much like it 
did when it was new which got me convinced that there was 
nothing wrong with it. Amazing how you can look at something 
you understand and see nothing until it finally beats you 
over the head.  The upside of all this is that it runs like 
it used to and I know the fuel system is clean.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, California U.S.A.
replace nomore with net to send mail
jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun Mar 16 18:27:08 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:27:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
In-Reply-To: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <A090E777-7EB3-4E87-BCD2-ECC48175E23C@alltel.net>

>  Amazing how you can look at something
> you understand and see nothing until it finally beats you
> over the head.  The upside of all this is that it runs like
> it used to and I know the fuel system is clean.
> Jim

GOOD information Jim--THANKS!
	Dave


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Mar 16 19:06:45 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:06:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <002e01c887d3$8d441e40$726f4b47@mikecomp>

This is a great help.  I have a 6hp with the same components doing the same 
symptoms.  Can't wait to try your solution.

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JIM KIRKES" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old_Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems


> About 4 or 5 years ago I took a Alamo flywheel engine to a
> show.  This engine has always been easy to start and a good
> runner.  It refused to run and I did some  show fixing but
> finally gave it up and brought it home and let it sit until
> now.  I decided to take it to an upcoming show and did not
> want to repeat the previous fiasco so I wheeled it into the
> shop and began to fiddle with it.  I got it started and
> convinced myself it was not getting a good fuel supply.  I
> took the fuel pump apart and made sure the check valves
> worked and put it back together with almost no change except
> maybe worse.  Well the next thing was to take the mixer
> apart, when in doubt take something apart, at the very least
> find something to twist.  This is an overflow mixer and
> there really is not much in it to go  wrong,  made sure
> everything was clear and put it back on the engine. I also
> took the mag/igniter out and checked the spark and it  made
> a nice fat blue spark. I got the engine started after some
> backfires and flooding which kind of surprised me as it
> never did this before. The engine was running but rather
> poorly and sometimes hitting the mag trip 4 or 5 times
> before firing.  I was a little perplexed, after all there is
> a pretty definite limit to what can be fixed on an engine
> like this. After watching this bad runner for a while it
> looked like the mag was not getting a very good trip.  I
> held the trip down with my finger so as to get more rotation
> on the mag armature and the everything smoothed right out.
> I took the trip off and reworked it so as to have a longer
> engagement and get a faster and longer rotation of the
> armature.  Problem solved, runs fine.
>
> A mag works by turning the armature through the magnetic
> field.  The hottest spark will be produced by turning
> through the most lines of force as fast as possible.  The
> mag trip on this engine was one of those thing that wear
> very slowly until it finally does not work very well.  As
> this happens over a long time it can be hard to spot. The
> mag worked fine outside the engine with the hand trip.The
> hand trip never gets used so it works pretty much like it
> did when it was new which got me convinced that there was
> nothing wrong with it. Amazing how you can look at something
> you understand and see nothing until it finally beats you
> over the head.  The upside of all this is that it runs like
> it used to and I know the fuel system is clean.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim and Diane Kirkes
> Hemet, California U.S.A.
> replace nomore with net to send mail
> jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Mar 16 19:31:20 2008
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:31:20 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
	<002e01c887d3$8d441e40$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <012301c887d6$fcad5c30$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>

Hi Mike,

I should have said that this is a Webster low tension mag. 
The trip is much like the sear on a trigger.  In my case it 
had gotten a little rounded off which very much limited the 
engagement duration.  I imaging this was at one time a sharp 
90 degree angle.  Over the years it wore to perhaps a .015 
radius, certainly no more.  I got this sharp again and the 
problems were over.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, California U.S.A.
replace nomore with net to send mail
jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine problems


This is a great help.  I have a 6hp with the same components 
doing the same
symptoms.  Can't wait to try your solution.

Mike Royster




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun Mar 16 20:04:18 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:04:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
In-Reply-To: <012301c887d6$fcad5c30$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>	<002e01c887d3$8d441e40$726f4b47@mikecomp>
	<012301c887d6$fcad5c30$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <47DDDFB2.6030607@scrtc.com>

Jim
    Another problem I've found with the Websters is with the springs.  
Over time they'll loose their ability to "snap" back.  I've had engines 
do as yours did and I've replaced the springs on the Webster with the 
same result, it solved the bad running problem. 

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



JIM KIRKES wrote:

>Hi Mike,
>
>I should have said that this is a Webster low tension mag. 
>The trip is much like the sear on a trigger.  In my case it 
>had gotten a little rounded off which very much limited the 
>engagement duration.  I imaging this was at one time a sharp 
>90 degree angle.  Over the years it wore to perhaps a .015 
>radius, certainly no more.  I got this sharp again and the 
>problems were over.
>
>Jim
>
>Jim and Diane Kirkes
>Hemet, California U.S.A.
>replace nomore with net to send mail
>jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
><sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine problems
>
>
>This is a great help.  I have a 6hp with the same components 
>doing the same
>symptoms.  Can't wait to try your solution.
>
>Mike Royster
>
>
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>
>
>
>  
>


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar 17 04:38:12 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:12 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Message-ID: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>

G'Day all

Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
which can be seen at

http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html

Thanks for looking

Kerry

Lithgow NSW OZ 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 17 07:35:37 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:35:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <3A360687-E8FA-44E8-B11F-30BF9124BF68@alltel.net>


> G'Day all
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have  
> finished
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did  
> the page
> which can be seen at
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html
> Thanks for looking
> Kerry

VERY nice Kerry!
	Dave


From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon Mar 17 08:57:13 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:57:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
In-Reply-To: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEDHGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jim:

Thanks for the information.  I had about the same symptoms with my 2 HP Jack of All Trades.  It's battery and coil but it got sorry at a show and I fiddled with it for a while before I took the ignitor out.

The points had slowly burned to where they would barely close.  A trip to the junk compartment of the tool box and I got a couple of 6-32 screws and some nuts and a file and made a new set.  The engine ran fine afterwards and the junk points are still in there.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of JIM KIRKES
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 08:03 PM
> To: Stationary Engine List; Old_Engine
> Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
> 
> 
> About 4 or 5 years ago I took a Alamo flywheel 
> engine to a 
> show.  This engine has always been easy to start 
> and a good 
> runner.  It refused to run and I did some  show 
> fixing but 
> finally gave it up and brought it home and let it 
> sit until 
> now.

...............snip............................  

> Jim
> 
> Jim and Diane Kirkes
> Hemet, California U.S.A.




From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon Mar 17 08:59:22 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:59:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEDHGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Kerry:

You made light of a LOT of work.  Great job!

Take care - Elden 


> Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
> 
> 
> G'Day all
> 
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are 
> interested I have finished 
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas 
> and FINALLY did the page 
> which can be seen at
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/
> Austral.html
> 
> Thanks for looking
> 
> Kerry
> 
> Lithgow NSW OZ 




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 10:13:46 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:13:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W2892D226FE215DAEB9C0C395050@phx.gbl>


Beautiful Restoration Kerry, What is your finish?, great patina without painting! Steve> From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:12 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages> > G'Day all> > Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished > the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page > which can be seen at> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html> > Thanks for looking> > Kerry> > Lithgow NSW OZ > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Mar 17 10:44:37 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:44:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W2892D226FE215DAEB9C0C395050@phx.gbl>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
	<BAY144-W2892D226FE215DAEB9C0C395050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <47DEAE05.1030805@scrtc.com>

I agree with Steve, great before and after!  I'm like Steve, what finish 
did you use?  Is it just a linseed oil type finish?  Thanks and congrats!

Tommy


>Beautiful Restoration Kerry, What is your finish?, great patina without painting! 
>



From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 16:32:21 2008
From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:32:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <BAY131-W2570959FDDFB193E7AFAE9A3050@phx.gbl>


G'Day Kerry, Engine looks great mate. Top job.RegardsLyndsay > From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:12 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages> > G'Day all> > Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished > the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page > which can be seen at> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html> > Thanks for looking> > Kerry> > Lithgow NSW OZ > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 17 17:55:41 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:55:41 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <000901c88892$ca63ccc0$5f2b6640$@com.au>

Hi Kerry, it will do I suppose. Done well. Cheers Cam

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 10:38 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages

G'Day all

Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
which can be seen at

http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html

Thanks for looking

Kerry

Lithgow NSW OZ 

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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 18 03:47:41 2008
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:47:41 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Message-ID: <031820081047.8555.47DF9DCD0009DF200000216B219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Very nice job Kerry.  Sure makes me feel good to beable to have helped you 
with the cup leathers (bucket leathers) you needed for the starter lamp.
Curt Andree


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To:      <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Date:    Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:26 +0000

> G'Day all
> 
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
> which can be seen at
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html
> 
> Thanks for looking
> 
> Kerry
> 
> Lithgow NSW OZ 
> 
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar 18 04:02:22 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:02:22 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT FW: Don Ruby funeral service
Message-ID: <20080318110211.GAVI10585.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html

  _____  


Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 11:06 PM
To: pml1 at bigpond.net.au
Subject: Don Ruby funeral service

 

  

Dear friends,

 

Firstly, thankyou for all the kind messages of sympathy to myself and family
on the sudden loss of Don.

For those that have asked, the funeral will be held on Wednesday 26th March
2008 at 

Conway Funeral Home

20 South Street, Wodonga at 10.30am. 

You are also invited for refreshments afterwards at the Wodonga RSL Club, 

Reid Street, Wodonga.

 

A graveside service will be held on Thursday 27th March at the Kilcunda
Memorial Cemetery, 

Kilcunda Victoria at 1.30pm.

 

Regards,


Marlene Ruby and family
344 Racecourse Road
Yackandandah  Vic 3749
Australia
Telephone 02 6027 1122

 

Please feel free to pass this news on to all Don's friends and contacts. 

Funeral details will be published in our local newspaper, the Border Morning
Mail (Albury/Wodonga) and the Herald Sun on Wednesday and Saturday this
week.

Please also feel free to contact Marlene to pass on any condolences.




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar 18 04:29:09 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:29:09 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <20080318112858.GSLW11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I think Brock is still getting the oil off his shirt ;)
There are more pictures of Kerry's Austral and all the Australs at our rally
last year at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc071.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html


-----Original Message-----


G'Day all

Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
which can be seen at

http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html

Thanks for looking

Kerry

Lithgow NSW OZ 




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar 18 04:37:10 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:37:10 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT: A new engine dog
Message-ID: <20080318113659.GVMW5563.oaamta08sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

We are happy to announce another German Shepherd is on its way to guard the
engines. Hopefully she will enjoy being around the engines as much as the
mighty Shannon did.
The new girl is a Sable German Shepherd and her name is Petra (I should have
held out for VanDervoort or Austral).
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0803160052.JPG


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Tue Mar 18 04:49:28 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:49:28 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080317184532.00bcb030@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080317184532.00bcb030@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <2A9AB818E6664C6BA1755BDE630B6C89@KerryPC>

Thanks for all the kind word on the Austral, I thought it was going to be an 
easy project but it turned out a lot more than I thought, but it was all 
good fun and when Brock got her to run nearly straight away (although rough) 
was a great feeling.
Note the original colour of this Austral was Black with yellowgreen lining.

The finish
1) metal parts were cleaned of dirt then wire brushed using a hand grinder 
with brush attachment to remove the rust but instead of my usual method of 
getting the metal to a bright finished I took the rust off and left the 
metal slightly dark. see finish 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/temporary12.html
2) When engine was all assembled I coated it in a heavy coat of BLACK diesel 
sump oil then wiped off excess.
3) Problem was engine was taken to its first rally and started 2 days later 
and Brock was kind enough to remove more excess oil on his shirt while 
starting it 8-))
4) Engine oil dried over the next two months (Ruth's domestic work) then I 
coated it with two coats of Penetrol (paint additive) but boiled linseed / 
turps would be just as good
5) All brass parts were wired brushed but again not to bright finish
6) New (shiny) and old brass parts were coated in sump oil and heated with 
porta gas torch (Propane ?) until they were hot and sump oil burnt off this 
gave nearly the effect I wanted and the when the engine was coated with 
Penetrol those parts I added a little sump oil  and the finish was good.
7) Penetrol dried and has kept the finish - it is Black as it should be, has 
a shine and does look ok.

Kerry


> It looks great. Would you care to share with us how you achieved that 
> "finish" - it looks good.
>



From rsrolfne at atnet.net  Tue Mar 18 08:20:30 2008
From: rsrolfne at atnet.net (Bob W7AVK)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:20:30 -0700
Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
Message-ID: <47DFDDBE.1090307@atnet.net>

Good Day - Anyone point me in the direction where I can purchase or get 
a set of gaskets for a Lister SL-3?   Maybe other parts later after I 
get into the engine.  I'm located in the western part of the USA.


Regards,


Bob Rolfness
WA, USA



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 18 14:45:56 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:45:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318164019.0304ea70@pop3.wcoil.com>

  Hi All,
  This isn't gas engine but there is a lot of interest anyways, would 
anyone have any information on this steam mill engine model?  Is this a 
model of an actual full size machine or is it a model for a models sake?

2" stroke
1.5" bore
8.5" flywheel.

http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill2.jpg
http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill3.jpg
http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill4.jpg

Thank You,   Mark


Mark & Christine Shulaw
Bluffton, Ohio
Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
Home #419.358.5206





From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Mar 18 14:32:02 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:32:02 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Message-ID: <c31.2a4e5c24.35118ed2@aol.com>

Kerry,
 
Great looking engine!  They sure run nice too!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germaoamer at AOL.com




**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL 
Home.      
(http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 18 16:18:19 2008
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:18:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318164019.0304ea70@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <02b601c8894e$5b659ee0$210110ac@FAMILY>

Beautiful engine Mark, I wish it was mine.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model


>  Hi All,
>  This isn't gas engine but there is a lot of interest anyways, would 
> anyone have any information on this steam mill engine model?  Is this a 
> model of an actual full size machine or is it a model for a models sake?
> 
> 2" stroke
> 1.5" bore
> 8.5" flywheel.
> 
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill2.jpg
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill3.jpg
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill4.jpg
> 
> Thank You,   Mark
> 
> 
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> Bluffton, Ohio
> Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
> Home #419.358.5206
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Tue Mar 18 18:19:07 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:19:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
References: <47DFDDBE.1090307@atnet.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c8895f$3b9b6fc0$e6d84c0c@D48VHZ61>

This guy lists Lister gaskets on his ebay store site, don't know for how old 
of an engine. Also mentions some of his gaskets interchange on other 
engines--didn't see your model listed. Might be worth a look.
www.gasketstogo.com

John Hall

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob W7AVK" <rsrolfne at atnet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set


> Good Day - Anyone point me in the direction where I can purchase or get
> a set of gaskets for a Lister SL-3?   Maybe other parts later after I
> get into the engine.  I'm located in the western part of the USA.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Bob Rolfness
> WA, USA
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 18 21:30:31 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:30:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
In-Reply-To: <02b601c8894e$5b659ee0$210110ac@FAMILY>
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318164019.0304ea70@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<02b601c8894e$5b659ee0$210110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318232519.030c1170@pop3.wcoil.com>

Same here, I'm trying to make it mine.   Mark

At 06:18 PM 3/18/08, you wrote:
>Beautiful engine Mark, I wish it was mine.
>
>Paul
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
>To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>Cc: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:45 PM
>Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
>
>
> >  Hi All,
> >  This isn't gas engine but there is a lot of interest anyways, would
> > anyone have any information on this steam mill engine model?  Is this a
> > model of an actual full size machine or is it a model for a models sake?
> >
> > 2" stroke
> > 1.5" bore
> > 8.5" flywheel.
> >
> > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill2.jpg
> > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill3.jpg
> > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill4.jpg
> >
> > Thank You,   Mark
> >
> >
> > Mark & Christine Shulaw
> > Bluffton, Ohio
> > Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
> > Home #419.358.5206
> >
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 19 00:26:02 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:26:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205856002.12642.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319092243.00bc3080@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 18/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 10
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:20:30 -0700
>From: Bob W7AVK <rsrolfne at atnet.net>
>Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <47DFDDBE.1090307 at atnet.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Good Day - Anyone point me in the direction where I can purchase or get
>a set of gaskets for a Lister SL-3?   Maybe other parts later after I
>get into the engine.  I'm located in the western part of the USA.
>Regards,
>Bob Rolfness
>WA, USA

Hi Bob,
         The SL3's were made between 1958 and 1966 ald Lister-Petter 
probably still offer parts.
Go here to find a dealer in your region:
<http://www.lister-petter.com/region_selector.php?region1=namerica>


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From edwards_service at westnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 00:43:02 2008
From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:43:02 +0900
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>

Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be 
starting to restore next, missing parts if you know of any spares around, i 
am curious with regards to the heating lamp, is it a two or three burner, i 
have one not sure if it is the right one, i think i will not be painting 
mine, cheers,
Chester from West Aussie.



> G'Day all
>
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page
> which can be seen at
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html
>
> Thanks for looking
>
> Kerry
>
> Lithgow NSW OZ
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 01:55:50 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:55:50 +1100
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
In-Reply-To: <019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
	<019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
Message-ID: <F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>

G'Day Chester

An 8 hp has a 3 burner lamp, best of luck with the restoration

Kerry

> Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be
> starting to restore next, missing parts if you know of any spares around, 
> i
> am curious with regards to the heating lamp, is it a two or three burner, 
> i
> have one not sure if it is the right one, i think i will not be painting
> mine, cheers,
> Chester from West Aussie.
>
>



From brock at netspeed.com.au  Wed Mar 19 02:56:10 2008
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:56:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <47e0e33a.7b.7470.1261739118@netspeed.com.au>

Happy birthday Edd hope it was a good one 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cam grundy" <ponchie at ozemail.com.au>
To: "SEL list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:59:39 +1100

> Happy birthday Mate for your 60th, hope there is plenty
> more to come. Cheers  Cam
> Cam and Edwina Grundy
> Kariong 2250
> New South Wales
> Australia. 
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 19 10:57:40 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:57:40 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319194010.00bcce50@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Sorry about the "Off Topic" post (again) but I know from 
experience that the members of these lists have a combined "knowledge pool" 
greater than all other lists combined. Not only that but, they're also the 
most helpful guys I know.

         I have a friend who has an IHC pickup/truck/ute/bakkie (depending 
on your language). It's about 3/4 ton.

         He's been asking me for ages to do some signs for the doors but is 
being quite specific - his brief is as follows:

"When this truck was new it had a very old sign on the door which I took 
photographs of but which I currently cannot find.  It was a circular sign 
and it said something like "International Harvester Field 
Service".   Obviously this truck was used by International Harvester to 
provide on farm service.  You might want to do a bit of research on this 
and if you can come up with what appears to be the right signage (if you 
send it to me I will recognise it) and then I will get you to make special 
decals for it.  In the meantime I will see if I can find these photographs 
which cannot be far away."

         Can any of you super knowledgeable members help me out here with 
pics or even a description of what this signage may possibly have looked like.

         I know it's a "long shot" but I'd appreciate any input. If anyone 
can help, it's you guys.

         Thanks in advance.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 19 11:13:10 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:13:10 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319201125.00bc82b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
	I just found a link to the truck mentioned in my last post for those who 
care to have a look:

<http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/news/htn187_International_Harvester/htn187_Int_H_C.htm>



From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Wed Mar 19 11:39:23 2008
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:39:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
Message-ID: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>

I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina


From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Mar 19 12:57:11 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:57:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319201125.00bc82b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEGCGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

Wow!  I had a truck almost identical to that one.  Mine was a T100 and had the Silver Diamond 220 engine and the first-year Warner automatic tranny.

The truck was given to me to get it out of the way.  I rebuilt the engine, replaced the king pins and brakes and used it for about ten years to haul firewood.  It was pretty beat-up when I got it and even more beat up when I sold it for $500, still running fine.  I think I cleared about $300 over my cost.

One thing I remember clearly was that since this was the first year for the automatic, there as an instruction decal on the dash.  The decal read: "AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.  To go forward, step on the accelerator.  To stop, step on the brake."

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:13 PM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 	I just found a link to the truck mentioned 
> in my last post for those who 
> care to have a look:
> 
> <http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/news/ht
> n187_International_Harvester/htn187_Int_H_C.htm>




From w3ecu at netscape.net  Wed Mar 19 12:43:04 2008
From: w3ecu at netscape.net (w3ecu at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:43:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
In-Reply-To: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>
References: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>
Message-ID: <8CA5810956EA44C-DE4-1A3@webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com>

Merton- saw your dilema. I am looking at a new igniter for my 5 hp Bulldog. See if you can give me the bolt to bolt measurement and I'll see if my igniter would work. Also, I may have a lead on someone who can make the igniter. Rich in Delmar, De.


-----Original Message-----
From: Merton Canady <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 2:39 pm
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor



I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I emailed 
Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one to copy from. 
Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? Thanks Merton from 
Eastern North Carolina
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 13:56:08 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:56:08 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
References: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>
Message-ID: <001901c88a03$a8a3c820$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller 
should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link to 
the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
Hope this helps.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor


>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I 
>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one to 
>copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? 
>Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 14:03:48 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:03:48 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Fw:  Bulldog Ignitor
Message-ID: <002d01c88a04$bac64f40$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

Sending again.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor


> Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller 
> should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link to 
> the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
> Hope this helps.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>
>
>>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I 
>>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one 
>>to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? 
>>Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
> 




From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 14:10:19 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:10:19 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Fw:  Bulldog Ignitor
Message-ID: <003d01c88a05$a3ddc9b0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

> http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
TRY AGAIN.TRY THIS ..EDD.

EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:07 AM
Subject: Fw: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor


> http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
>
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
> To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:03 AM
> Subject: Fw: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>
>
>> Sending again.
>> EDD PAYNE
>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>> Australia
>> 2852
>> Phone:0263742387
>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>> edsengns
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>>
>>
>>> Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller 
>>> should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link 
>>> to the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> EDD PAYNE
>>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>>> Australia
>>> 2852
>>> Phone:0263742387
>>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>>> edsengns
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
>>> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
>>> Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I 
>>>>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one 
>>>>to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to 
>>>>spare? Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 




From George_Best at adp.com  Wed Mar 19 14:18:52 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:18:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?

I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the
show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two
years.

Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no EHOWT.
Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)



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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Mar 19 16:14:12 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:14:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
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	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi George,

I plan to be there.  I think Jim & Dolly are too; possibly also Jim's twin
brother Andy.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?
> 
> I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the
> show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two
> years.
> 
> Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no EHOWT.
> Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)




From George_Best at adp.com  Wed Mar 19 16:33:04 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:33:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

You "Think Jim & Dolly" will be there ????
You make it sound like you may be going to Nuenen by yourself! ;-) I
doubt that. 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
fero_ah at city-net.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:14 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Cc: Dolly French
Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008

Hi George,

I plan to be there.  I think Jim & Dolly are too; possibly also Jim's
twin brother Andy.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?
> 
> I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the

> show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two 
> years.
> 
> Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no
EHOWT.
> Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)


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From edward.tabor at zoominternet.net  Wed Mar 19 18:08:10 2008
From: edward.tabor at zoominternet.net (Edward Tabor)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:08:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>

If you think of it, call me with a physical address for the place in 
Annapolis. Have not received pictures you emailed.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?


> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring? 
> Thanks.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
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From edwards_service at westnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 18:26:59 2008
From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:26:59 +0900
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
	<F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>

Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a 
row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?, also 
who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
Chester.



> G'Day Chester
>
> An 8 hp has a 3 burner lamp, best of luck with the restoration
>
> Kerry
>
>> Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be
>> starting to restore next,>> am curious with regards to the heating lamp,
is it a two or three burner,
>> i
>> have one not sure if it is the right one,
>>, cheers,
>> Chester from West Aussie.
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed Mar 19 19:15:09 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:15:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
	<3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>
Message-ID: <F971BE4D-4AF8-456C-9CB2-EC8F260DE171@alltel.net>

Hi Ed, Is a "physical address" different than a meta-physical  
address? Is it simply lower, or is it different in kind?
	Dave

On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Edward Tabor wrote:

> If you think of it, call me with a physical address for the place in
> Annapolis. Have not received pictures you emailed.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:47 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
>
>
>> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tommy Turner


From briwatt at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 21:57:17 2008
From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:57:17 +1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
	<F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>
	<009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
Message-ID: <47E1EEAD.00000C.02976@FRED>

Hi Chester,
Try John The Tankman, he makes the tin Shroud for the Austral Blowlamp 
Photos are on the site below.we run our 8HP. Austral using a single Burner
Lamp,no problems,
 
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x279/john_the_tankman/
 
David Watts (03) 87616332
damewatt at bigpond.com
Brian Watts (03) 97266147
briwatt at optusnet.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat
 
 
 
From: Chester Smith
Date: 20/03/2008 12:33:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
 
Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a
row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?, also
who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
Chester.
 
 
 
> G'Day Chester
>
> An 8 hp has a 3 burner lamp, best of luck with the restoration
>
> Kerry
>
>> Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be
>> starting to restore next,>> am curious with regards to the heating lamp,
is it a two or three burner,
>> i
>> have one not sure if it is the right one,
>>, cheers,
>> Chester from West Aussie.
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 
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From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Thu Mar 20 00:43:27 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:43:27 +1100
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
In-Reply-To: <009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester><F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>
	<009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
Message-ID: <927DF9D01E724A408105905FB77E384A@KerryPC>

G'Day Chester

You have the correct burner
My handle is original and John Gilbert made the cover using my stuffed 
original
He now has the pattern for both
John Gilbert
Merbein, Vic, Australia
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x279/john_the_tankman/
ph 03-50253372

Kerry



> Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a
> row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?, 
> also
> who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
> Chester.
>



From edwards_service at westnet.com.au  Thu Mar 20 01:01:14 2008
From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:01:14 +0900
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester><F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC><009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
	<927DF9D01E724A408105905FB77E384A@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <010101c88a60$92ea9600$210110ac@Chester>

Thanks a lot guys.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp


> G'Day Chester
>
> You have the correct burner
> My handle is original and John Gilbert made the cover using my stuffed
> original
> He now has the pattern for both
> John Gilbert
> Merbein, Vic, Australia
> http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x279/john_the_tankman/
> ph 03-50253372
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
>> Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a
>> row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?,
>> also
>> who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
>> Chester.
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 03:46:49 2008
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:46:49 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Fw:  Bulldog Ignitor
In-Reply-To: <002d01c88a04$bac64f40$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
References: <002d01c88a04$bac64f40$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W109DB73BBA29D7AA4039AD0000@phx.gbl>


Hi,on the subject of Bulldogs,can anyone tell me about the Bullpup? Was it a smaller version? A friend of mine has found the remains of an engine with Bullpup on the side.    John
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:03:48 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bulldog Ignitor> > Sending again.> EDD PAYNE> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W> Australia> 2852> Phone:0263742387> edsengns at optusnet.com.au> edsengns> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 AM> Subject: Re: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor> > > > Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller > > should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link to > > the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG> > Hope this helps.> > EDD PAYNE> > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W> > Australia> > 2852> > Phone:0263742387> > edsengns at optusnet.com.au> > edsengns> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>> > To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM> > Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor> >> >> >>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I > >>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one > >>to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? > >>Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina> >> _______________________________________________> >> SEL mailing list> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> >>> > > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Mar 20 10:00:14 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <1206032414.47e2981e1afdc@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi George,

Well, I do have a paper to present and a session to chair at the Reactor
Dosimetry Symposium, so I figger, what the hell, let's do Neunen too.  8-))
http://safelife.jrc.nl/ISRD/

You know, the ol' "combine business and pleasure routine."

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> You "Think Jim & Dolly" will be there ????
> You make it sound like you may be going to Nuenen by yourself! ;-) I
> doubt that. 




From George_Best at adp.com  Thu Mar 20 10:16:43 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:16:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <1206032414.47e2981e1afdc@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1206032414.47e2981e1afdc@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654C84E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

Although it was tempting last night.  After thinking about it more, I
think I'll skip Nuenen this year.

As it was working out I would basically be in Holland only 72 hours.
Arriving Saturday around noon and departing on Tuesday around noon.

Better to to plan on it for next year when the show is a few weeks later
and I could also be gone for a longer period of time.

George



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
fero_ah at city-net.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:00 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008

Hi George,

Well, I do have a paper to present and a session to chair at the Reactor
Dosimetry Symposium, so I figger, what the hell, let's do Neunen too.
8-)) http://safelife.jrc.nl/ISRD/

You know, the ol' "combine business and pleasure routine."

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> You "Think Jim & Dolly" will be there ????
> You make it sound like you may be going to Nuenen by yourself! ;-) I 
> doubt that.


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Mar 20 12:09:02 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:09:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  O.T. IHC Truck question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1206028802.12789.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320205214.00bd32e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 20/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:57:11 -0500
>From: "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>Jerry:
>Wow!  I had a truck almost identical to that one.  Mine was a T100 and had 
>the Silver Diamond 220 engine and the first-year Warner automatic tranny.
>
>The truck was given to me to get it out of the way.  I rebuilt the engine, 
>replaced the king pins and brakes and used it for about ten years to haul 
>firewood.  It was pretty beat-up when I got it and even more beat up when 
>I sold it for $500, still running fine.  I think I cleared about $300 over 
>my cost.
>
>One thing I remember clearly was that since this was the first year for 
>the automatic, there as an instruction decal on the dash.  The decal read: 
>"AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.  To go forward, step on the accelerator.  To 
>stop, step on the brake."
>
>Take care - Elden

Hi Elden,
         Thanks for the reply. Interesting about the decal - but on a new 
(revolutionary) thing like "automatic transmission" in those days it was 
probably very necessary. Imagine "Billy Bob" and his brother "Billy Bob" 
fighting about which pedal to step on !


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Mar 20 12:15:44 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:15:44 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 48, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1206028802.12789.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320211234.00bce710@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 20/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:18:52 -0500
>From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?
>
>I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the
>show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two
>years.
>
>Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no EHOWT.
>Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)

Hi George,
         I was hoping to be there but, due to circumstances beyond my 
control it looks like I may not be able to go,
         I may only get to Europe in about September - are there any shows 
then.?

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Mar 20 12:36:35 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:36:35 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320205214.00bd32e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV1182E734AA2E4BC28A8050BB000@phx.gbl>

Jerry as previously mentioned,  go to 
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/index.asp

and search for pickup...lot's of hits..may help.

IHC's in my day were known as Cornbinders...anything red especially the 
pickups were called "Cornbinders," and this tradition is still be used.  I 
can't find it but there's a cornbinder club on the U.S. left side.  Maybe 
someone can help.

Good Luck,
RickinMt. 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Mar 20 14:40:52 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:40:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Neunen 2008
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320211234.00bce710@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320211234.00bce710@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <1206049252.47e2d9e4412da@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jerry,

How about THE SHOW at the end of August?
http://www.gdsf.co.uk/

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>:

>          I was hoping to be there but, due to circumstances beyond my 
> control it looks like I may not be able to go,
>          I may only get to Europe in about September - are there any shows 
> then.?




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 01:04:30 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:04:30 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
Message-ID: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>

The revised videos are now running:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm

or

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm

You may need to adjust your video player screen manually if it doesn't
do it automatically.

The menu thumbnails give file #, size and approximate running times.

I have run all of the videos from the menus with no problems, but let
me know if you have any 'no-shows' or problems.

The older and larger videos have been deleted.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Mar 21 06:03:22 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:03:22 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E3B21A.7020706@xplornet.com>

Hello Peter,
	I can't thank you enough for the effort into this. They download fine 
for me using XP and Firefox. I should mention video #55 seesm to be 
turned on it's side.

Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> The revised videos are now running:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
> 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Mar 21 07:13:44 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:13:44 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

VERY good!  Thanks!

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> Listerdiesel
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 03:05 AM
> To: Stationary-Engine; SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
> 
> 
> The revised videos are now running:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/Vide
oQKMenu.htm

or

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm

You may need to adjust your video player screen manually if it doesn't
do it automatically.

The menu thumbnails give file #, size and approximate running times.

I have run all of the videos from the menus with no problems, but let
me know if you have any 'no-shows' or problems.

The older and larger videos have been deleted.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 21 06:28:31 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:28:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>


Beautiful job, Peter!  I have watched them since I turned on my computer this morning. Thanks for the work. Steve
_________________________________________________________________
Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes.
http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Mar 21 06:52:19 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:52:19 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>

Morning Guys,
	Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have side 
view pictures of it?
	A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have side 
view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the 
pictures.
	Thanks.
Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> The revised videos are now running:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
> 
> or
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
> 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 07:43:29 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:43:29 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> Morning Guys,
>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have side
>  view pictures of it?
>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have side
>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>  pictures.
>         Thanks.
>
> Rupert
>

Ryder Hot-Air engine I believe, Rupert.

The engine firing noises on the soundtrack are NOT from this engine.

#50 and #55 are both laying on one side as they were too tall and thin
to get in the frame, unless I was so far away you wouldn't see
anything.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 07:45:37 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:45:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803210745i6774f439sa2639abac5f569d4@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/03/2008, Steve Royster <steve_royster at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Beautiful job, Peter!  I have watched them since I turned on my computer this morning. Thanks for the work. Steve
>

Hope you enjoyed the Charity Auction shots?

I'll have a bit more experience with the video camera this year, so
they should be better still.

Still pictures from Portland 2007 are on the website in the Trip
Reports section.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net  Fri Mar 21 09:13:50 2008
From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (armstrong)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:13:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001701c88b6e$8fc86ec0$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5>

Very Good Peter.          George
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; 
<SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:04 AM
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos


> The revised videos are now running:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
>
> or
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
>
> You may need to adjust your video player screen manually if it doesn't
> do it automatically.
>
> The menu thumbnails give file #, size and approximate running times.
>
> I have run all of the videos from the menus with no problems, but let
> me know if you have any 'no-shows' or problems.
>
> The older and larger videos have been deleted.
>
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> 




From ddotto at cableone.net  Fri Mar 21 09:40:50 2008
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:40:50 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>

It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.

Dave

Dave Otto
Boise, Idaho



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos

On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> Morning Guys,
>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
side
>  view pictures of it?
>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
side
>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>  pictures.
>         Thanks.
>
> Rupert
>

Ryder Hot-Air engine I believe, Rupert.

The engine firing noises on the soundtrack are NOT from this engine.

#50 and #55 are both laying on one side as they were too tall and thin
to get in the frame, unless I was so far away you wouldn't see
anything.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 21 09:58:19 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:58:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com><OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com><BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>
	<6f6025160803210745i6774f439sa2639abac5f569d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002901c88b74$c46faf20$6801a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

I got a half  dozen of them running at the same time , and they keep craning 
their knecks wantin to know "whutthell is that ?"


Chuck Balyeat
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri Mar 21 10:20:07 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:20:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <001701c88b6e$8fc86ec0$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<001701c88b6e$8fc86ec0$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5>
Message-ID: <295952D5-D20E-4B5B-B508-3AC4575EFE3E@alltel.net>

On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:13 PM, armstrong wrote:

> Very Good Peter.          George

Hi George, In the future it would be best to put a comma between  
"Good" and "Peter." Keep in mind that there are some from KA on this  
list and they may misunderstand!


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 14:09:38 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:09:38 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Dobbie McInnes Engine Indicator information sought.
Message-ID: <6f6025160803211409j508e72d4uce9cb4f12e054a08@mail.gmail.com>

We have been in contact with a gent whose father worked at Dobbie
McInnes in the late 1940's and early 1950's, and was involved in the
design side as well as being assistant works manager.

He is after some information, and I have quoted his first email in full below:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My late father worked for Dobbie McInnes in 1947-51, as assistant works
> manager and co-head of development.  As I inherited the interest in the
> company, I've been trying to date individual instruments on the basis of
> serial number.  I have little doubt that, with a few exceptions, the
> indicators were numbered in a single sequence.
>
> I noticed that you show an early Design No. 1 with what looks like the old
> McInnes logo in the vulcanite sheathing.  I suspect these indicators
> pre-date 1903, but have only seen one (DS1 1693).  Do you know if yours has
> a lower number than this?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

We have a small collection of indicators, and two are the DS1 units. One is in
the 7000's serial number, but the other one was serial 735, nicely below John's
known unit.

I know a few of us have indicators secreted away somewhere, could you check and
see what the type and serial numbers are please?

A typical DS1 unit is at:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Indicator/Indicator19.jpg

Note the McInnes name moulded into the vulcanite at the base. The serial number
is stamped into the top face around the other side of the main nickel-plated
arm, usually in two places.

Any information given is for John's personal use only, and I can give John's
email address to anyone who doesn't want to make their own unit's details
public.

John has also been back to us since then regarding details of the
other units that we hold, including a motorised recorder and the
Schaeffer-Budenberg unit that we bought at the Woodlands swap meet
back in 2003.

Many thanks,

Peter




























-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Mar 21 14:41:46 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:41:46 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>	<47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E42B9A.2090502@xplornet.com>

Thanks Peter,
	I downloaded them and then turned them. They view great doing that with 
my set up.

Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>> Morning Guys,
>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have side
>>  view pictures of it?
>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have side
>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>  pictures.
>>         Thanks.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
> 
> Ryder Hot-Air engine I believe, Rupert.
> 
> The engine firing noises on the soundtrack are NOT from this engine.
> 
> #50 and #55 are both laying on one side as they were too tall and thin
> to get in the frame, unless I was so far away you wouldn't see
> anything.
> 
> Peter

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Fri Mar 21 15:17:28 2008
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:17:28 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Dobbie McInnes Engine Indicator information sought.
References: <6f6025160803211409j508e72d4uce9cb4f12e054a08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c88ba1$5e93f710$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

Just as a matter of interest ,a friend found a complete Performance 
Indicator on the local rubbish tip the other day ,it is of German make still 
in it's box.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; 
<SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:09 AM
Subject: [SEL] Dobbie McInnes Engine Indicator information sought.


> We have been in contact with a gent whose father worked at Dobbie
> McInnes in the late 1940's and early 1950's, and was involved in the
> design side as well as being assistant works manager.
>
> He is after some information, and I have quoted his first email in full 
> below:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> My late father worked for Dobbie McInnes in 1947-51, as assistant works
>> manager and co-head of development.  As I inherited the interest in the
>> company, I've been trying to date individual instruments on the basis of
>> serial number.  I have little doubt that, with a few exceptions, the
>> indicators were numbered in a single sequence.
>>
>> I noticed that you show an early Design No. 1 with what looks like the 
>> old
>> McInnes logo in the vulcanite sheathing.  I suspect these indicators
>> pre-date 1903, but have only seen one (DS1 1693).  Do you know if yours 
>> has
>> a lower number than this?
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> We have a small collection of indicators, and two are the DS1 units. One 
> is in
> the 7000's serial number, but the other one was serial 735, nicely below 
> John's
> known unit.
>
> I know a few of us have indicators secreted away somewhere, could you 
> check and
> see what the type and serial numbers are please?
>
> A typical DS1 unit is at:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Indicator/Indicator19.jpg
>
> Note the McInnes name moulded into the vulcanite at the base. The serial 
> number
> is stamped into the top face around the other side of the main 
> nickel-plated
> arm, usually in two places.
>
> Any information given is for John's personal use only, and I can give 
> John's
> email address to anyone who doesn't want to make their own unit's details
> public.
>
> John has also been back to us since then regarding details of the
> other units that we hold, including a motorised recorder and the
> Schaeffer-Budenberg unit that we bought at the Woodlands swap meet
> back in 2003.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Mar 22 10:11:58 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:11:58 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>


  G'day all;
  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any 
info...possibly rebadged.

http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view

Happy Easter,
RickinMt. 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat Mar 22 11:31:35 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:31:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133019.034a3b70@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Rick, old iron heaven gives me this message when I get there.
  "You are not authorised to download this attachment."            Mark


At 12:11 PM 3/22/08, you wrote:

>   G'day all;
>   Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any
>info...possibly rebadged.
>
>http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>
>Happy Easter,
>RickinMt.
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat Mar 22 11:38:16 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:38:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133732.034a4120@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Rick, I just went ahead and registered on the site. It will be a while 
before registration is confirmed.     Mark


At 12:11 PM 3/22/08, you wrote:

>   G'day all;
>   Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any
>info...possibly rebadged.
>
>http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>
>Happy Easter,
>RickinMt.
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 10:43:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:43:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221043v5ff7c273w1f9ca0f8c163f2ee@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>   G'day all;
>   Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any
>  info...possibly rebadged.
>
>  http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>
>  Happy Easter,
>  RickinMt.
>

"You are not authorised to download this attachment."

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 22 10:57:43 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:57:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080322133019.034a3b70@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c88c46$3b3e5800$6801a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

, I just went ahead and registered on the site. It will 
/////////////////////////////////////////
Worked yesterday without it . I have #4 with the wee Superior looped & 
running ,  right now in the showroom . Beats the hell out of muzak radio .



Chuck Balyeat 
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm




 


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 11:01:17 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:01:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133732.034a4120@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133732.034a4120@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221101h15163e37j1dd3a718dc2d286f@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:
> Hi Rick, I just went ahead and registered on the site. It will be a while
>  before registration is confirmed.     Mark
>

We registered a while ago, haven't heard anything back since, must be
'persona non grata' there.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Mar 22 11:51:38 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:51:38 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>

Let's try the last 3 pictures on my webshots album;

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562705587GjZSFZ

The first two have been ID'd as Wade dragsaw crank and flywheel.

Thanks much for looking
Rick

 


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 12:25:18 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:25:18 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221225y40ac6255t37a50b1758ae242f@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
> Let's try the last 3 pictures on my webshots album;
>
>  http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562705587GjZSFZ
>
>  The first two have been ID'd as Wade dragsaw crank and flywheel.
>
>  Thanks much for looking
>  Rick
>

Neat looking engine, there's a lot of 'Lister' in those flywheels.
Standard Scale Co., was that the maker, distributor/dealer?

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Mar 22 12:45:23 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:45:23 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl><BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
	<6f6025160803221225y40ac6255t37a50b1758ae242f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV5C8696357F4E456342F0CBB020@phx.gbl>

Peter, SSS is what the tag says and it's listed in the BPB, but only shows a 
horizontal and doesn't mention vertical.   Lister has been mentioned and 
also re-badge.  The funnel is part of the casting, does have a fuel pump, 
H&M, and he believes valve cages are used.  Little lever on the carb. says 
"Start, Run."

Thanks much,
Rick


> >
>
> Neat looking engine, there's a lot of 'Lister' in those flywheels.
> Standard Scale Co., was that the maker, distributor/dealer?
>
> Peter 



From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sat Mar 22 14:05:14 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:05:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen
 Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>
References: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>
Message-ID: <47E5748A.6040700@xplornet.com>

Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.

Rupert

Dave Otto wrote:
> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
> 
> Dave
> 
> Dave Otto
> Boise, Idaho
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
> 
> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>> Morning Guys,
>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
> side
>>  view pictures of it?
>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
> side
>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>  pictures.
>>         Thanks.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
> 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From jdohagan at comcast.net  Sat Mar 22 14:59:06 2008
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:59:06 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080322215929.13084444837@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com>

Hi Rick, It looks like a IDEAL made in Lansing Mich. And rebadged.  Cya,
Jimmy O'Hagan

Jim O'Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Strobel
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:12 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine


  G'day all;
  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any 
info...possibly rebadged.

http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view

Happy Easter,
RickinMt. 

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 15:10:19 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:10:19 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine


> 
>  G'day all;
>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any 
> info...possibly rebadged.
> 
> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
> 
> Happy Easter,
> RickinMt. 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Mar 22 15:27:54 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:27:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <B1762640-93A0-4EBA-B506-A19E8BC8C933@alltel.net>

Come on Reg. Think about it. If you could download the attachment it  
would no longer be a MYSTERY!
	Dave


On Mar 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:

> Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
>
>
>>
>>  G'day all;
>>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would  
>> appreciate any
>> info...possibly rebadged.
>>
>> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>>
>> Happy Easter,
>> RickinMt.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 15:41:38 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:41:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:
	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
References: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>
	<47E5748A.6040700@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen 
Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine


> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>
> Rupert
>
> Dave Otto wrote:
>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Dave Otto
>> Boise, Idaho
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Listerdiesel
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>
>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>> Morning Guys,
>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>> side
>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
>> side
>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>>  pictures.
>>>         Thanks.
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>
> --
> yvt
>
> Rupert Wenig
> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>
> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 15:45:39 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:45:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl><008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<B1762640-93A0-4EBA-B506-A19E8BC8C933@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <00de01c88c6e$86607a20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Duh! That never crossed my mind!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Mystery engine


> Come on Reg. Think about it. If you could download the attachment it  
> would no longer be a MYSTERY!
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:
> 
>> Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  G'day all;
>>>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would  
>>> appreciate any
>>> info...possibly rebadged.
>>>
>>> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>>>
>>> Happy Easter,
>>> RickinMt.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From ddotto at cableone.net  Sat Mar 22 18:07:48 2008
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:07:48 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:Wide-Screen
	Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <000101c88c82$5018d160$0201a8c0@three82b2bb9a2>

Hi Reg

I'm intrigued with the Kessler Hot Air engine that you built; do you have
any history on it? Are the ones that you built 1/2 size.

I was also wondering about the crank; does the power piston have two rods or
is the extra throw used for something else?

Thanks, Dave

P.S. any prints available?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of R & M Ingold
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:42 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:Wide-
> Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
> 
> There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen
> Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
> 
> 
> > Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
> >
> > Rupert
> >
> > Dave Otto wrote:
> >> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a
> model
> >> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> Dave Otto
> >> Boise, Idaho
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Listerdiesel
> >> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
> >> To: The SEL email discussion list
> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
> >>
> >> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> >>> Morning Guys,
> >>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
> >> side
> >>>  view pictures of it?
> >>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone
> have
> >> side
> >>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with
> the
> >>>  pictures.
> >>>         Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Rupert
> >>>
> >>
> > --
> > yvt
> >
> > Rupert Wenig
> > Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
> >
> > email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
> >
> > http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Mar 22 20:28:51 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:28:51 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
Message-ID: <20080322.192852.1740.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
Here are a few pictures I took of Don Hunter's Holt today.
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/Holt111

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 22 20:34:28 2008
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:34:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
Message-ID: <05ca01c88c96$cfed2f30$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW>

Hey gang
 
Just got back from a quick trip to Kansas City; saw something I think
was really neat.
 
There was a small ?steam shovel? (though it may not be steam powered;
boom & bucket design are similar to HYPERLINK
"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu pictureHYPERLINK
"http://www.olivertractors.ca/1925%20Steam%20Shovel.JPG") that sits just
off the ramp when you leave north bound I-35 to get onto east bound I
70.  I could be wrong on the location; I did go both ways thru that
interchange; about 90% sure I?m right but possibly could be on the ramp
leaving 70 to get back onto southbound 35.  I believe it?s probably only
about half the size of the one in the link though.  It?s in a
construction company yard (obviously as a display) & you?d have to get
onto one of the regular streets & preferably into their yard to take pix
I?d think.   
 
Is anyone close to this that might be able to get info & pix for me?  It
just looks SO NEAT!  No idea if I?ll ever get back that way with fuel
prices where they are.
 
Thanks. 
 
Lew Best near Waco, TX
 

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From oiseming at moscow.com  Sat Mar 22 20:51:35 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:51:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
In-Reply-To: <20080322.192852.1740.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <200803230352.m2N3plSb065077@mail-gw.fsr.net>

I am impressed!  I didn't think there was such a thing as a Holt steam
traction engine.  

Thank you for sharing the pictures.  

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
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rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:29 PM
To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com;
at at lists.antique-tractor.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.

Hi all.
Here are a few pictures I took of Don Hunter's Holt today.
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/Holt111

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0





From gibsongus at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 22 21:33:02 2008
From: gibsongus at earthlink.net (Gus)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:33:02 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was
	Re:	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
Message-ID: <26808528.1206246782232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hey Reg that thomas&smith engine looks very nice, you do good work...
Gus at gibsongus at myway.com
-----Original Message-----
>From: R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>Sent: Mar 22, 2008 2:41 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>
>There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
>Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen 
>Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>
>
>> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
>> Dave Otto wrote:
>>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
>>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave Otto
>>> Boise, Idaho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Listerdiesel
>>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>>> Morning Guys,
>>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>>>  pictures.
>>>>         Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Rupert
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> yvt
>>
>> Rupert Wenig
>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>
>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 22 21:40:06 2008
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:40:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
Message-ID: <410-2200830234406640@earthlink.net>

Hey Lew, I see it there all the time when I travel to go to my inlaws.  It
has been there many years and I have taken the side street just to get a
closer look at it.  Never have stopped to inquire about it though.  It is
very small, about the size of a large pickup truck.  It is located halfway
between the Jackson and Benton curves (famous curves for rollovers since
they are so tight) on I-70 just on the eastside of downtown KCMO.  I would
love to have it here at the house.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Lew Best <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>; SEL <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 3/22/2008 10:34:29 PM
> Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
>
> Hey gang
 
Just got back from a quick trip to Kansas City; saw something I think
was really neat.
 
There was a small ?steam shovel? (though it may not be steam powered;
boom & bucket design are similar to HYPERLINK
"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu pictureHYPERLINK
"http://www.olivertractors.ca/1925%20Steam%20Shovel.JPG") that sits just
off the ramp when you leave north bound I-35 to get onto east bound I
70.  I could be wrong on the location; I did go both ways thru that
interchange; about 90% sure I?m right but possibly could be on the ramp
leaving 70 to get back onto southbound 35.  I believe it?s probably only
about half the size of the one in the link though.  It?s in a
construction company yard (obviously as a display) & you?d have to get
onto one of the regular streets & preferably into their yard to take pix
I?d think.   
 
Is anyone close to this that might be able to get info & pix for me?  It
just looks SO NEAT!  No idea if I?ll ever get back that way with fuel
prices where they are.
 
Thanks. 
 
Lew Best near Waco, TX
 

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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 22:04:44 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:04:44 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: wasRe:	Wide-Screen
	Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
References: <26808528.1206246782232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c88ca3$898dd230$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Thanks Gus.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gus" <gibsongus at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: wasRe: Wide-Screen 
Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine


> Hey Reg that thomas&smith engine looks very nice, you do good work...
> Gus at gibsongus at myway.com
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>>Sent: Mar 22, 2008 2:41 PM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: 
>>Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>>
>>There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
>>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
>>Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen
>>Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>>
>>
>>> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>> Dave Otto wrote:
>>>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a 
>>>> model
>>>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Dave Otto
>>>> Boise, Idaho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Listerdiesel
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>>>
>>>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Morning Guys,
>>>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>>>> side
>>>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone 
>>>>> have
>>>> side
>>>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with 
>>>>> the
>>>>>  pictures.
>>>>>         Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> yvt
>>>
>>> Rupert Wenig
>>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>>
>>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>>
>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>>
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Mar 22 23:48:38 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:48:38 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
Message-ID: <20080322.224839.1352.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Orrin.  More of the story can be found here: 
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42517

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:51:35 -0700 "Orrin Iseminger"
<oiseming at moscow.com> writes:
> I am impressed!  I didn't think there was such a thing as a Holt 
> steam
> traction engine.  
> 
> Thank you for sharing the pictures.  
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Orrin
> 
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.   


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar 23 00:16:29 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:16:29 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was
 Re:	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>	<47E5748A.6040700@xplornet.com>
	<00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <47E603CD.4090406@xplornet.com>

Hello Reg,
	You do nice work. Thanks for posting the link to your site.

Rupert

R & M Ingold wrote:
> There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen 
> Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
> 
> 
>> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
>> Dave Otto wrote:
>>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
>>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave Otto
>>> Boise, Idaho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Listerdiesel
>>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>>> Morning Guys,
>>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>>>  pictures.
>>>>         Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Rupert
>>>>
>> --
>> yvt
>>
>> Rupert Wenig
>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>
>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
> 
> 
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> 

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 23 07:16:10 2008
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:16:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
In-Reply-To: <410-2200830234406640@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <004401c88cf0$78776770$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW>

Hey Tim

Yeah; I figured out my "location description" was wrong; it's on the
Truman cutoff (my girlfriend's sister lives in that area); we took the
Truman cutoff twice so I got to feast my eyes on it twice  :)  I'd love
to have it here too!

Lew
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Christoff
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:40 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel

Hey Lew, I see it there all the time when I travel to go to my inlaws.
It
has been there many years and I have taken the side street just to get a
closer look at it.  Never have stopped to inquire about it though.  It
is
very small, about the size of a large pickup truck.  It is located
halfway
between the Jackson and Benton curves (famous curves for rollovers since
they are so tight) on I-70 just on the eastside of downtown KCMO.  I
would
love to have it here at the house.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Lew Best <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>; SEL
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 3/22/2008 10:34:29 PM
> Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
>
> Hey gang
 
Just got back from a quick trip to Kansas City; saw something I think
was really neat.
 
There was a small ?steam shovel? (though it may not be steam powered;
boom & bucket design are similar to HYPERLINK
"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu pictureHYPERLINK
"http://www.olivertractors.ca/1925%20Steam%20Shovel.JPG") that sits just
off the ramp when you leave north bound I-35 to get onto east bound I
70.  I could be wrong on the location; I did go both ways thru that
interchange; about 90% sure I?m right but possibly could be on the ramp
leaving 70 to get back onto southbound 35.  I believe it?s probably only
about half the size of the one in the link though.  It?s in a
construction company yard (obviously as a display) & you?d have to get
onto one of the regular streets & preferably into their yard to take pix
I?d think.   
 
Is anyone close to this that might be able to get info & pix for me?  It
just looks SO NEAT!  No idea if I?ll ever get back that way with fuel
prices where they are.
 
Thanks. 
 
Lew Best near Waco, TX
 

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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 13:31:49 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:31:49 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV5C8696357F4E456342F0CBB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
	<6f6025160803221225y40ac6255t37a50b1758ae242f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY113-DAV5C8696357F4E456342F0CBB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221331w37d749dxec947a3318afc265@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
> Peter, SSS is what the tag says and it's listed in the BPB, but only shows a
>  horizontal and doesn't mention vertical.   Lister has been mentioned and
>  also re-badge.  The funnel is part of the casting, does have a fuel pump,
>  H&M, and he believes valve cages are used.  Little lever on the carb. says
>  "Start, Run."
>
>  Thanks much,
>
> Rick
>

The block and hopper are definitely not Lister, but the flywheels have
a 'family resemblance' for want of a better word.

Lister also used valve cages, as did a lot of engine makers, but their
use died out after better lubrication and valve guide material came
along. Cost of production and assembly was quite high as well.

BYB says they handled Novo engines, which is what I would guess at as
its ancestry, Standard Scale were only agents according to C H W.

It does look sweet!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From oiseming at moscow.com  Sun Mar 23 11:28:51 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:28:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
In-Reply-To: <20080322.224839.1352.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <200803231829.m2NIT0lP008204@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Thank you, Ron, for that link!  I'm astonished!  Now, I want to get down to
Woodlawn more than ever.  

My engine club buddies and I helped load up ship out all the attachments and
accessories for the Holt combine that has now been restored to ground-power
and will be pulled by mules during the show.  We have some "sweat equity" in
it and have more than a casual interest in the machine. 

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:49 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.

Hi Orrin.  More of the story can be found here: 
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42517

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:51:35 -0700 "Orrin Iseminger"
<oiseming at moscow.com> writes:
> I am impressed!  I didn't think there was such a thing as a Holt 
> steam
> traction engine.  
> 
> Thank you for sharing the pictures.  
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Orrin
> 
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.   
_______________________________________________




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 23 13:02:10 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:02:10 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
In-Reply-To: <200803231829.m2NIT0lP008204@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <20080322.224839.1352.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<200803231829.m2NIT0lP008204@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803231302gf0332c6l2cd1caf206c324a2@mail.gmail.com>

On 23/03/2008, Orrin Iseminger <oiseming at moscow.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Ron, for that link!  I'm astonished!  Now, I want to get down to
>  Woodlawn more than ever.
>
>  My engine club buddies and I helped load up ship out all the attachments and
>  accessories for the Holt combine that has now been restored to ground-power
>  and will be pulled by mules during the show.  We have some "sweat equity" in
>  it and have more than a casual interest in the machine.
>
>  Best regards,
>
>  Orrin
>

We have been over to the Heidrick Agricultural Museum a couple of
times now, they have a very large collection of Best/Holt/Caterpillar
stuff there, and well worth a look if you are over near Sacremento. If
you go to the Woodland Swap meet, it is quite close.

1962 Hays Lane, Woodland, CA 95776 (530) 666-9700
http://www.aghistory.org/cgi-bin/default.asp

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 23 13:07:49 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:07:49 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Venn-Severin Engines
Message-ID: <6f6025160803231307p353256d4ycf5b219fd175f596@mail.gmail.com>

We have had a contact from the family of Theodore Venn, and have been
offered a copy of one of their 1935 sales brochure to put onto our
websites. We are arranging for our friends in Phoenix to do a scan for
us, as that is where the brochure is at present and the family doen't
want to let is go too far out of their hands.

One of things mentioned in the email was that Venn-Severin had big
problems with crankshafts breaking during the war years, and that the
company assets went to Mahindra in India after WWII.

Does anyone have anything to add to this,  or any corrections?

We already had a small page of V-S engines on our websites from a
catalogue that we bought, it would be nice to have more information to
go with the pictures.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From edward.tabor at zoominternet.net  Sun Mar 23 13:26:47 2008
From: edward.tabor at zoominternet.net (Edward Tabor)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:26:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <F971BE4D-4AF8-456C-9CB2-EC8F260DE171@alltel.net>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com><3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>
	<F971BE4D-4AF8-456C-9CB2-EC8F260DE171@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <81969A910208441DAEBFB79CBF5F5DEF@EdToshiba2>

In my job we deal with a lot of Post Office Box numbers.  really is hard to 
find someplace with a P.O.Box.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?


> Hi Ed, Is a "physical address" different than a meta-physical
> address? Is it simply lower, or is it different in kind?
> Dave
>
> On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Edward Tabor wrote:
>
>> If you think of it, call me with a physical address for the place in
>> Annapolis. Have not received pictures you emailed.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:47 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
>>
>>
>>> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>>> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 23 14:23:28 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:23:28 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803231423y613643d5s2255cf77ac3d4631@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/03/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> Hi George,
>
>  I plan to be there.  I think Jim & Dolly are too; possibly also Jim's twin
>  brother Andy.
>
>  See ya,  Arnie
>

We've just booked the ferry.... see you there :-))

Petr
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 23 19:51:44 2008
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (Derek)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:21:44 +1030
Subject: [SEL] Venn-Severin Engines
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803231307p353256d4ycf5b219fd175f596@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c88d5a$020b57d0$02c9ae3a@chaosaffdac3c5>

http://www.outlookbusiness.com/print.aspx?articleid=156&editionid=16&catgid=
73&subcatgid=490

In the mid-'40s, M&M acquired Chicago-based diesel engine manufacturer Venn
Severin Machine. Palit was given the task of shifting the plant lock, stock
and barrel to India. He spent three years in the US. Unfortunately,
government permissions to shift the plant did not come through.


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 6:38 AM
To: Stationary-Engine; SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Venn-Severin Engines


We have had a contact from the family of Theodore Venn, and have been
offered a copy of one of their 1935 sales brochure to put onto our websites.
We are arranging for our friends in Phoenix to do a scan for us, as that is
where the brochure is at present and the family doen't want to let is go too
far out of their hands.

One of things mentioned in the email was that Venn-Severin had big problems
with crankshafts breaking during the war years, and that the company assets
went to Mahindra in India after WWII.

Does anyone have anything to add to this,  or any corrections?

We already had a small page of V-S engines on our websites from a catalogue
that we bought, it would be nice to have more information to go with the
pictures.

Peter
-- 
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 23 22:41:11 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:41:11 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
Message-ID: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I am starting to go through and clean up the engine collection a bit. First
to go is on of my 2hp R&Vs. This is a BL engine built in 1913. It is a
basket case but comes with a lot of new castings. Anyone interested contact
me off list.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Sun Mar 23 22:55:38 2008
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:55:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
References: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <002501c88d73$b186b510$93ad57ca@n>

what do you want for the rv patrick
  mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale


>I am starting to go through and clean up the engine collection a bit. First
> to go is on of my 2hp R&Vs. This is a BL engine built in 1913. It is a
> basket case but comes with a lot of new castings. Anyone interested 
> contact
> me off list.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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From Peterwoodmore at aol.com  Sun Mar 23 23:03:33 2008
From: Peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peterwoodmore at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:03:33 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
Message-ID: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>

Patrick
Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
Peter Woodmore. 
peterwoodmore at aol.com
Skype name Woadmere   



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Mar 24 01:23:00 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:23:00 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>

Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping & 
shed keeping ;-)))))
Peter, Oz



> Patrick
> Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> Peter Woodmore.
> peterwoodmore at aol.com
> Skype name Woadmere
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Mar 24 02:49:21 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:49:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>

Patrick think of how much room you will have if you move that big 
12hp out of the way, You could put a few nice pot plants and a 
romantic seat down the side of the house.
Russell


At 07:23 PM 24/03/2008, you wrote:
>Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping &
>shed keeping ;-)))))
>Peter, Oz
>
>
>
> > Patrick
> > Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> > Peter Woodmore.
> > peterwoodmore at aol.com
> > Skype name Woadmere
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 24 03:09:39 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:09:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <00a001c88d97$2c50a580$84f1f080$@com.au>

Good onya Russell, you've got it worked Mate. Cam

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Gilbert
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 8:49 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine for sale

Patrick think of how much room you will have if you move that big 
12hp out of the way, You could put a few nice pot plants and a 
romantic seat down the side of the house.
Russell


At 07:23 PM 24/03/2008, you wrote:
>Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping &
>shed keeping ;-)))))
>Peter, Oz
>
>
>
> > Patrick
> > Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> > Peter Woodmore.
> > peterwoodmore at aol.com
> > Skype name Woadmere
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
>_______________________________________________
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics

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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 24 07:01:45 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:01:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>

On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote:
>  You could put a few nice pot plants and a
> romantic seat down the side of the house.
> Russell

Is that legal in OZ?
	Dave


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Mar 24 10:06:54 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:06:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
	<37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080324120116.02f8a1a0@pop3.wcoil.com>




At 09:01 AM 3/24/08, you wrote:
>On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote:
> >  You could put a few nice pot plants and a
> > romantic seat down the side of the house.
> > Russell
>
>Is that legal in OZ?
>         Dave

Good combination, mood enhancement and romantic seating.  At least they 
would have fun while the fun lasted.               Mark





From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Mar 24 14:26:53 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:26:53 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
	<37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080325082620.02226248@ncable.com.au>

Dave he would probably need to put a fence around it :-)
Russell


At 01:01 AM 25/03/2008, you wrote:
>On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote:
> >  You could put a few nice pot plants and a
> > romantic seat down the side of the house.
> > Russell
>
>Is that legal in OZ?
>         Dave
>_______________________________________________
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Mar 24 15:05:19 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:05:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
Message-ID: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try 
to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 24 15:20:39 2008
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:20:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c88dfd$4c1620a0$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW>

Hey Tommy

Seems fine here

Lew
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge
Tommy Turner
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try

to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Mar 24 15:22:48 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:22:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <1206397368.47e829b83487e@webmail.city-net.com>

Ahhhh, it warms the cockles of me heart to see that the fine art of bustin' a
mate's balls is alive and well down under.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>:

> Patrick think of how much room you will have if you move that big 
> 12hp out of the way, You could put a few nice pot plants and a 
> romantic seat down the side of the house.
> Russell
> 
> 
> At 07:23 PM 24/03/2008, you wrote:
> >Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping &
> >shed keeping ;-)))))
> >Peter, Oz
> >
> > > Patrick
> > > Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> > > Peter Woodmore.



From wayne at lorenssanitation.com  Mon Mar 24 15:23:15 2008
From: wayne at lorenssanitation.com (Wayne Thackery)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:23:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <000001c88dfd$a791c650$1402a8c0@Waynexp>

Ebay is loading fine for me. Tommy, I notice when you reply all your email
comes in as junk mail or spam.

Good Luck!

Wayne A Thackery
Keizer, Oregon


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try 
to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Mar 24 15:58:41 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:58:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <000001c88dfd$a791c650$1402a8c0@Waynexp>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com> <000001c88dfd$a791c650$1402a8c0@Waynexp>
Message-ID: <47E83221.9060105@scrtc.com>

Wayne,
    Filters must be recognizing my email address as trash.  I've been 
accused of being that by some folks.  I did a bit of research and found 
some info that Ebay has been doing some updates and there could be 
delays.  I just went to ebay and it loaded fine.  I guess I've just 
tried to access it at the wrong time.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Wayne Thackery wrote:

>Ebay is loading fine for me. Tommy, I notice when you reply all your email
>comes in as junk mail or spam.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>Wayne A Thackery
>Keizer, Oregon
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy
>Turner
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:05 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
>
>Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
>load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try 
>to load.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>
>  
>


From b2 at chooka.net  Mon Mar 24 16:37:48 2008
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:37:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <000801c88e08$17555510$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>

I think they are having some server issues.  I'm listing things right now
and once in a while will get an error from their server that a page is not
available at this time.  Retry and it comes up.  Performance is just
spotty...from good to unavailable.

B?

Bill Brueck
   Chatfield, Minnesota, USA

Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to load
and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Mar 24 17:43:48 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:43:48 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <20080325004338.WDBT18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

The reason the engine is going is that I recently picked up a much better
2hp R&V (it runs) and I have a puppy to pay for (and make room for). I don't
see any need for duplicate engines when I have so little space to begin
with.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 25 02:39:05 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:39:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] R&V vertical engine information wanted
Message-ID: <006a01c88e5c$5eecece0$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi All
Do any of you guys that keep your fingers on the pulse auction wise, have 
any idea what price a complete 2 1/2hp vertical R&V would bring. The is the 
vertical mounted ignitor model.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From nancydick at pennswoods.net  Tue Mar 25 04:06:36 2008
From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:06:36 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <20080325004338.WDBT18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<20080325004338.WDBT18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <20080325110638.84879229AE6@md5.pennswoods.net>

Patrick you have a lot more space than you are using. Just think up 
space is almost unlimited.
R Fink
PA



At 11:43 AM 3/25/2008 +1100, you wrote:

>The reason the engine is going is that I recently picked up a much better
>2hp R&V (it runs) and I have a puppy to pay for (and make room for). I don't
>see any need for duplicate engines when I have so little space to begin
>with.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 25 05:05:03 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:05:03 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine clean out
Message-ID: <001501c88e70$754e82a0$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi all Aussies    

I am cleaning out too, this is the first one to go..
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/wolseley/index.htm

Mates get first offer before Ebay, email me OFF LIST plowe at exemail.com.au


Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 25 10:11:11 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:11:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080325121049.033fd820@pop3.wcoil.com>

Sounds like they are making changes for the worse again.   Mark


At 05:05 PM 3/24/08, you wrote:
>Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to
>load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try
>to load.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
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454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From paul at internalfire.com  Tue Mar 25 11:09:36 2008
From: paul at internalfire.com (Paul Evans)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:09:36 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
Message-ID: <47E93FE0.30908@internalfire.com>

We finally got the Pelapone running!

Purchased and restored with a donation from the SEL in 2005 she has 
taken a while to sort but ran for the first time on the evening of 
Easter Sunday.

She then ran several times during the day at the museum crankup on 
Easter Monday.

Video on Youtube at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk

She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this year in June and will 
be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.

Paul & Hazel

-- 

Internal Fire Museum of Power

Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS

http://www.internalfire.com



From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 25 14:09:17 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:09:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
In-Reply-To: <47E93FE0.30908@internalfire.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEOOGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Paul:

All I can say to that is.........YEEEEEEEE   HAWWWWWWW!

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Paul Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 01:10 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
> 
> 
> We finally got the Pelapone running!
> 
> Purchased and restored with a donation from the 
> SEL in 2005 she has 
> taken a while to sort but ran for the first time 
> on the evening of 
> Easter Sunday.
> 
> She then ran several times during the day at the 
> museum crankup on 
> Easter Monday.
> 
> Video on Youtube at 
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk
> 
> She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this 
> year in June and will 
> be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.
> 
> Paul & Hazel
> 
> -- 
> 
> Internal Fire Museum of Power
> 
> Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS
> 
> http://www.internalfire.com




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Mar 25 16:05:57 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:05:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
References: <47E93FE0.30908@internalfire.com>
Message-ID: <000601c88ecc$c8d6ebe0$726f4b47@mikecomp>

Great job, proud of you all!

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Evans" <paul at internalfire.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone


> We finally got the Pelapone running!
> 
> Purchased and restored with a donation from the SEL in 2005 she has 
> taken a while to sort but ran for the first time on the evening of 
> Easter Sunday.
> 
> She then ran several times during the day at the museum crankup on 
> Easter Monday.
> 
> Video on Youtube at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk
> 
> She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this year in June and will 
> be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.
> 
> Paul & Hazel
> 
> -- 
> 
> Internal Fire Museum of Power
> 
> Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS
> 
> http://www.internalfire.com
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Wed Mar 26 11:09:43 2008
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:09:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
Message-ID: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>

Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle a 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have a museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant stationary steam engines in the world. 

But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod Engine Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.  This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.

Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply that by a dozen. 

The building has been set aside for preservation, and the Tod Engine Foundation has stepped in to provide assistance in stabilizing the engines and eventually returning one to operation.  We held a work session a couple of weeks ago and plan another one for April 19 and 20.  Our immediate goal is to improve the appearance of the engines, clean up the building and secure it as best we can. 

If you would like to come out and lend a hand I'll post more info. about that later.  In the meantime here are a few pictures of the engines on our website.

http://www.bethengines.org

Its good to be back on the SEL. :-)

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Foundation
"Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
2261 Hubbard Road
Youngstown, OH 44505
330-272-4089
www.todengine.org
http://todengine.blogspot.com/



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 11:19:11 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:19:11 +0000
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803261119m23af6fdeo7c10ea1897d21147@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/03/2008, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle a 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have a museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant stationary steam engines in the world.
>
>  But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod Engine Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.  This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.
>

<snipped>

What can be said?  absolutely fantastic!

Well done, Rick and welcome back.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 26 14:27:31 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:27:31 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  SEL Pelapone
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1206547202.24153.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080326231023.00bc68e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 26/03/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:09:36 +0000
>From: Paul Evans <paul at internalfire.com>
>Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <47E93FE0.30908 at internalfire.com>
>
>We finally got the Pelapone running!
>
>Purchased and restored with a donation from the SEL in 2005 she has
>taken a while to sort but ran for the first time on the evening of
>Easter Sunday.
>
>She then ran several times during the day at the museum crankup on
>Easter Monday.
>Video on Youtube at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk
>She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this year in June and will
>be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.
>Paul & Hazel
>Internal Fire Museum of Power

Hi Paul,
         Awesome - I'd love to see it. My mate just recently got a twin 
cyl. running and it sounds really great (a bit like a John Deere tractor - 
just better - especially when he just "touches" the throttle).

         Those barrels seem to be exactly the same (just more on yours) as 
Nevilles twin and also look very similar to the barrel on my Wolseley Type 
"R" (circa 1928). Interesting that it seemed a "popular" design at the time 
and many manufacturers "copied" it.

         Is this the engine that Arnie asked us (members of the SEL)  to 
donate the equivalent of a weeks supply of beer to a year or so back - If 
so, I'm glad that my beer went to a good cause!

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From bigtime64 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 26 15:42:53 2008
From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:42:53 +0000
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319194010.00bcce50@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319194010.00bcce50@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W13D63FB495B5C7210DAFD1B4FF0@phx.gbl>


I have asked around a couple of the IH guys around here and so far this is what I have gotten back.  If I get more information I will pass it along.  
 
Since the original inquiry seems to have originated in S. Africa I wonder if this may have been a local thing that wouldn't have been seen around here. Even though the Company was global for decades, things were still marketed locally unlike the one flavor mentality today.
 
There is a guy in MO that has a tremendous knowledge of IH trucks. When this guy goes to the big salvage yard in the sky there will be a big void in IH Truck history. Someone should sit down with him and write a book before it is too late. If it's been around, he's probably seen it or heard of it. 
 
VANCE GARAGE 2832 Market Street, Hannibal, MO 63401 
573-221-7767 
Pappy Vance lots of parts, no Scouts
 
Ed Herreid
Trevor Wisconsin> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:57:40 +0200> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: jerrye at databak.co.za> Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question> > Hi Guys,> Sorry about the "Off Topic" post (again) but I know from > experience that the members of these lists have a combined "knowledge pool" > greater than all other lists combined. Not only that but, they're also the > most helpful guys I know.> > I have a friend who has an IHC pickup/truck/ute/bakkie (depending > on your language). It's about 3/4 ton.> > He's been asking me for ages to do some signs for the doors but is > being quite specific - his brief is as follows:> > "When this truck was new it had a very old sign on the door which I took > photographs of but which I currently cannot find. It was a circular sign > and it said something like "International Harvester Field > Service". Obviously this truck was used by International Harvester to > provide on farm service. You might want to do a bit of research on this > and if you can come up with what appears to be the right signage (if you > send it to me I will recognise it) and then I will get you to make special > decals for it. In the meantime I will see if I can find these photographs > which cannot be far away."> > Can any of you super knowledgeable members help me out here with > pics or even a description of what this signage may possibly have looked like.> > I know it's a "long shot" but I'd appreciate any input. If anyone > can help, it's you guys.> > Thanks in advance.> > Keep the revs up (or down)> Jerry Evans> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From johnculp at btes.tv  Wed Mar 26 17:38:01 2008
From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:38:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <13d226c2b71bbf72a096c5dd102cc868@btes.tv>

Man, that's awesome! Wish I could help, but I'm pretty tied down here 
now.

Welcome back to the List, Rick!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA




From ddotto at cableone.net  Wed Mar 26 18:07:52 2008
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:07:52 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Bethlehem Engines
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <000b01c88fa6$fbc76130$0201a8c0@three82b2bb9a2>

Hi Rick

You never seem to have any problem finding projects that run in the hundreds
of tons. I really enjoyed the pictures of the Bethlehem engines. I was using
one for wallpaper on my PC at work and got a lot of comments about it.

Dave

 

PS. Do you still have my patterns? I would still like to have them returned.


Thanks 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:10 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
> 
> Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the
> Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle a
> 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have a
> museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant
> stationary steam engines in the world.
> 
> But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod Engine
> Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a
> group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.
> This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.
> 
> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
> that by a dozen.
> 
> The building has been set aside for preservation, and the Tod Engine
> Foundation has stepped in to provide assistance in stabilizing the engines
> and eventually returning one to operation.  We held a work session a
> couple of weeks ago and plan another one for April 19 and 20.  Our
> immediate goal is to improve the appearance of the engines, clean up the
> building and secure it as best we can.
> 
> If you would like to come out and lend a hand I'll post more info. about
> that later.  In the meantime here are a few pictures of the engines on our
> website.
> 
> http://www.bethengines.org
> 
> Its good to be back on the SEL. :-)
> 
> Rick Rowlands
> Tod Engine Foundation
> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
> 2261 Hubbard Road
> Youngstown, OH 44505
> 330-272-4089
> www.todengine.org
> http://todengine.blogspot.com/
> 
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> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Thu Mar 27 04:36:08 2008
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:36:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Bethlehem Engines
References: <000b01c88fa6$fbc76130$0201a8c0@three82b2bb9a2>
Message-ID: <04b001c88ffe$c00c5d00$0201a8c0@pengy>

Dave,

The patterns are here.  I'll start shipping them out to you.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Otto" <ddotto at cableone.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: [SEL] Bethlehem Engines


> Hi Rick
>
> You never seem to have any problem finding projects that run in the 
> hundreds
> of tons. I really enjoyed the pictures of the Bethlehem engines. I was 
> using
> one for wallpaper on my PC at work and got a lot of comments about it.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> PS. Do you still have my patterns? I would still like to have them 
> returned.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
>> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:10 PM
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
>>
>> Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the
>> Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle 
>> a
>> 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have 
>> a
>> museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant
>> stationary steam engines in the world.
>>
>> But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod 
>> Engine
>> Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a
>> group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.
>> This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.
>>
>> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
>> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
>> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
>> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
>> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
>> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
>> that by a dozen.
>>
>> The building has been set aside for preservation, and the Tod Engine
>> Foundation has stepped in to provide assistance in stabilizing the 
>> engines
>> and eventually returning one to operation.  We held a work session a
>> couple of weeks ago and plan another one for April 19 and 20.  Our
>> immediate goal is to improve the appearance of the engines, clean up the
>> building and secure it as best we can.
>>
>> If you would like to come out and lend a hand I'll post more info. about
>> that later.  In the meantime here are a few pictures of the engines on 
>> our
>> website.
>>
>> http://www.bethengines.org
>>
>> Its good to be back on the SEL. :-)
>>
>> Rick Rowlands
>> Tod Engine Foundation
>> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
>> 2261 Hubbard Road
>> Youngstown, OH 44505
>> 330-272-4089
>> www.todengine.org
>> http://todengine.blogspot.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 15:12:05 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:12:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <00de01c88c6e$86607a20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <834871.40435.qm@web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I STILL don't think much of it. 8>))
--- R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:

> Duh! That never crossed my mind!
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Mystery engine
> 
> 
> > Come on Reg. Think about it. If you could download the attachment it  
> > would no longer be a MYSTERY!
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:
> > 
> >> Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
> >> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> >> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
> >> Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>  G'day all;
> >>>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would  
> >>> appreciate any
> >>> info...possibly rebadged.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
> >>>
> >>> Happy Easter,
> >>> RickinMt.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> SEL mailing list
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> >>>
> >>
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> > 
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From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Thu Mar 27 19:10:51 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:10:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Message-ID: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>

 The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer 
something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products 
these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left from 
welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
www.belzona.com

John Hall




From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Thu Mar 27 20:57:32 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:57:32 -0700
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <224985F8-DCAE-4A91-BABC-4A451855941E@rustyiron.com>

On Mar 27, 2008, at 7:10 PM, John Hall wrote:

> The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the  
> products
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids  
> left from
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
>
> John Hall


I concur, John.
Years ago, Joe Prindle sent me some Belzona.  The intended project  
never materialized, but I ended up using it on another, much more  
serious project.

The problem was with a cylinder liner on a headless engine.  There are  
four "ears" on the outside of the cylinder.  Bolts attach to these  
ears and "pull" the liner into the cylinder.  Over-tightening caused  
one ear to crack all the way through the liner.  The result was that  
water from the jacket would enter the cylinder--bad news.

Brazing would have been appropriate, but I always try to take the  
least drastic avenue of repair.  No heat, no distortion.  Besides, I  
felt bad about not completing the other project and felt obligated to  
test the Belzona.

After bead blasting the area, I cut a sheet metal patch that would  
extend about two inches all the way around the crack.  I forced  
Belzona into the crack and painted it all over the area.  Then I laid  
the patch into place and completely covered it in Belzona.

A day later the Belzona was as hard as a rock and the engine was  
reassembled.  That was years ago and many hours have since been put on  
the engine.  It still runs flawlessly and there are no signs of  
leakage into the cylinder or gas bubbles in the cooling water.

Belzona is good stuff.

Rob






From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Mar 28 03:43:32 2008
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:43:32 +0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Message-ID: <032820081043.21524.47ECCBD40009632300005414219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

John & Rob,
Interesting stuff, where can one get some and how does it compare to JB Weld 
in price?
thanks,
Curt Andree


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To:      <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Date:    Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:14:36 +0000

>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer 
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products 
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left from 
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
> 
> John Hall
> 
> 
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Mar 28 04:14:42 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:14:42 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
References: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <002301c890c4$ebdf0330$0200a8c0@altech>

I have used Belzona for 20 years +, I do not know anything about JB Weld, 
but Belzona is rock hard and machines well. I have two 1Kg tubs here.
Peter, Oz




> The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left 
> from
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
>
> John Hall
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From bgrimley at bellsouth.net  Fri Mar 28 07:00:04 2008
From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (bgrimley at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:00:04 +0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Message-ID: <032820081400.1568.47ECF9E40005A0930000062022230682329B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net>


FYI:  No luck here - just called the US distributor in Miami and got a price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 1121 from a local sales rep here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity sold - he said it is not sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in another country?


  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------


>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer 
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products 
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left from 
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
> 
> John Hall
> 
> 
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel  

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Mar 28 09:40:30 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:40:30 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Bagnall Diesel Locomotive
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080328181941.00bc5520@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         It's me again with another "Off Topic" post but ultimately it does 
concern an engine ( a dirty great big diesel one).

         This one is aimed at the Brits (Dave Croft & Co. :-))

         I'm looking for a pic or artwork for a "badge" on the front of a 
Bagnall Diesel Locomotive - this one:
         <http://www.sandstone-estates.com/interim/Bagnall/index.html>

         The 4th pic from the top shows a view of the radiator housing - 
there is a "circular" spot on the top of the housing that lends itself to a 
"Badge", "Crest" or "Makers Plate" and the owner wants me to come up with 
something.

         Direct link to the pic is:
<http://www.sandstone-estates.com/interim/Bagnall/Bagnall_Locomotive_Works_No_3204_4.jpg>

(It seems to have broken in half on my mail programme - I'm sure you guys 
will be able to sort it out!

         From my searches on the net I do not believe that there was ever a 
plate there (just, maybe a "headlight")  but they want me to make something 
for that spot and, who am I to complain - "business is business" after all.

         If all else fails I will make a "Fantasy Plate" to fill the spot.

         Thanks in advance.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Mar 28 13:33:29 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:33:29 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
References: <032820081400.1568.47ECF9E40005A0930000062022230682329B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net>
Message-ID: <003e01c89112$fd824130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Compared to what alternatives are available, the likes of us are not going 
to pay their asking price.
I had some donated years ago.
I would never pay that amount when JB does as good a job.
Only industrial purchasing people, who dont care about the money spent, deal 
with this mob.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds


>
> FYI:  No luck here - just called the US distributor in Miami and got a 
> price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 1121 from a local sales rep 
> here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity sold - he said it is not 
> sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in another country?
>
>
>  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" 
> <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------
>
>
>>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
>> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the 
>> products
>> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left 
>> from
>> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
>> www.belzona.com
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Mar 28 16:08:55 2008
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:08:55 -0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compound
Message-ID: <001b01c89128$b315f860$c53e6d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

Hi Guys ,
            I do contract work at a major international oil company who use Belzona on a daily basis for the repair of some pretty major and seriously expensive off shore pumps, and the guys there say that it is very machineable .
    I my self have used it on water jacket repairs an other casting repairs and found it much better than J.B weld, luckily I was given a supply of belzona from an engineer friend .


Cheers , Craig in Scotland

From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Mar 28 17:52:55 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:52:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <003e01c89112$fd824130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGECOGMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Reg and gang:

You might want to take a look at this site.  Devcon is about as good as Belzona (just ask the respective sales reps).

Find a dealer near you.

http://www.devcon.com/products/products.cfm?brandid=1&catid=6

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of R & M
> Ingold
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 03:33 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds
> 
> 
> Compared to what alternatives are available, the 
> likes of us are not going 
> to pay their asking price.
> I had some donated years ago.
> I would never pay that amount when JB does as good a job.
> Only industrial purchasing people, who dont care 
> about the money spent, deal 
> with this mob.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds
> 
> 
> >
> > FYI:  No luck here - just called the US 
> distributor in Miami and got a 
> > price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 
> 1121 from a local sales rep 
> > here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity 
> sold - he said it is not 
> > sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in 
> another country?
> >
> >
> >  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" 
> > <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------
> >
> >
> >>  The next time you need something along the 
> lines of JB-weld but prefer
> >> something more high-tech, you might want to 
> check out some of the 
> >> products
> >> these guys carry. We recently used one at work 
> to fill some voids left 
> >> from
> >> welding and then machined the part smooth. 
> Seems to have worked well.
> >> www.belzona.com
> >>
> >> John Hall
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> SEL mailing list
> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Mar 28 17:22:14 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:22:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <003e01c89112$fd824130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net>

I agree with Reg.  About 20 or 25 years ago a mechanic foreman acquaintance
of mine implemented the use of Belzona to repair cavitation damage to
hydroelectric turbine blades and throat rings.  

That long ago the price was on the order of $1,400 or $1,500 per *quart*.
Even at that, it was a bargain because it was far faster and cheaper to use
it than to air-arc out the damaged material, lay in filler material with
arc-welders, then, grind it all smooth.  

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of R & M Ingold
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:33 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds

Compared to what alternatives are available, the likes of us are not going 
to pay their asking price.
I had some donated years ago.
I would never pay that amount when JB does as good a job.
Only industrial purchasing people, who dont care about the money spent, deal

with this mob.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds

>
> FYI:  No luck here - just called the US distributor in Miami and got a 
> price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 1121 from a local sales rep 
> here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity sold - he said it is not 
> sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in another country?
>
>  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" 
> <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------
>
>>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
>> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the 
>> products
>> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left 
>> from
>> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
>> www.belzona.com
>>
>> John Hall




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Fri Mar 28 19:09:15 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:09:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>

 I believe we paid $280 for what we bought last week. Like I said originally 
it's a little more high -tech and I'm a firm believer in you get what you 
pay for. If you think its a rip-off you need to consider who it is made 
for--industry. I'd never use it to fix an IH LB or a Fairbanks D (unless I 
already had it on hand), but if I had an engine worth more than a good used 
pickup truck, I don't believe I'd want to patch something important with 
"Elmers" glue. Don't get me wrong, JB-Weld and Loc-weld have their place but 
sometimes you need something better.

 FWIW, we considered something by Devcon but decided this would be better 
for our application. I have looked at Devcon in years past and they appear 
to have some nice products that are considerably cheaper and more readily 
available.

John Hall 



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 29 03:46:31 2008
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:46:31 +0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net>
	<004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>


I see Belzona do a bearing compound,wonder if it would substitute brass or babit for mains or big ends on our old slow speed stuff!   John> From: jthall at worldnet.att.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:09:15 -0400> Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds> > I believe we paid $280 for what we bought last week. Like I said originally > it's a little more high -tech and I'm a firm believer in you get what you > pay for. If you think its a rip-off you need to consider who it is made > for--industry. I'd never use it to fix an IH LB or a Fairbanks D (unless I > already had it on hand), but if I had an engine worth more than a good used > pickup truck, I don't believe I'd want to patch something important with > "Elmers" glue. Don't get me wrong, JB-Weld and Loc-weld have their place but > sometimes you need something better.> > FWIW, we considered something by Devcon but decided this would be better > for our application. I have looked at Devcon in years past and they appear > to have some nice products that are considerably cheaper and more readily > available.> > John Hall > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Sat Mar 29 18:35:59 2008
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:35:59 +1100 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <1188.203.12.35.105.1206840959.squirrel@boiler>

About the biggest side shaft engine I've ever seen. Cool that they're
going to be preserved.

Be careful not to take on too much jeopardising your ability to achieve
your initial main goal of preserving the Tod Engine.

Paul

> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
> that by a dozen.
>




From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Mar 29 22:25:47 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:25:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Show today
Message-ID: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
Once again the Western Antique Power Associates were invited to
participate in the Highland Citrus Festival.
This is located in Highland California, next to San Bernardino.  It was
cool and overcast most of the day, only making it into the mid 60s F.  We
had a nice club turnout and the crowd was the largest I can remember. 
Here are some pictures of our display.  Enjoy.

http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestival2008

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From russell at ncable.com.au  Sun Mar 30 03:55:45 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:55:45 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Show today
In-Reply-To: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
References: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080330215346.02240d38@ncable.com.au>

Ron good to see some nice engines pic's. I'm a bit worried about 
seeing that rope around them engines. Were you expecting a few Aussie 
tourists or something.
Russell


At 04:25 PM 30/03/2008, you wrote:
>Hi all.
>Once again the Western Antique Power Associates were invited to
>participate in the Highland Citrus Festival.
>This is located in Highland California, next to San Bernardino.  It was
>cool and overcast most of the day, only making it into the mid 60s F.  We
>had a nice club turnout and the crowd was the largest I can remember.
>Here are some pictures of our display.  Enjoy.
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestival2008
>
>Ron Haskell
>rdhaskell at juno.com
>Riverside, California USA
>http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 06:14:18 2008
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:14:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Rob-san, 
  (1) Please excuse the delay.  My heart rate is just now slowing down to normal after reading the shipping rate ($10 ) for a $12 T-shirt.  You must have been thinking of shipping it over by that famous air carrier FedSex -- for those who need it over night.  Hang on to the T-shirt.  Keep an eye open for the next ark coming over..  Or better yet, keep an ear open for some engine guy ( and gal ) who plans to take me up on my offer of bed and breakfast to any travelers this way.  Numerous natives from the hinterlands have stayed here from time to time, as have several Kiwis.
  (2)  If you know where to purchase the Belzona, how about buying some for me?  I'll get a check off to you for it and the T-shirt.  Please let me know when.  Thanks, Bill

wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar 30 07:16:39 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:16:39 -0600
Subject: [SEL] OT: shipping: was Re:  patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47EFA0C7.6010907@xplornet.com>

	Is that the total fee Fedex charge you? If so, your lucky. I had a 
parcel shipped by Fedex ground a month ago from the US to me in Canada 
with shipping paid up front. The parcel came in about 5 days which is 
fairly fast for cross border shipping. About a month later I got a bill 
from from Fedex for broker fee, government tax, COD fee and some other 
charges which came to more than the original order of under $20 US. UPS 
and Purolator have similar extra charges.
	I find the only reasonable shipper for small orders is USPS. Only have 
to pay our post office a COD (usually $5) and any taxes. Besides, orders 
under $40 usually come through tax free.

Rupert

William Young wrote:
> Rob-san, (1) Please excuse the delay.  My heart rate is just now
> slowing down to normal after reading the shipping rate ($10 ) for a
> $12 T-shirt.  You must have been thinking of shipping it over by that
> famous air carrier FedSex -- for those who need it over night.  Hang
> on to the T-shirt.  Keep an eye open for the next ark coming over..
> Or better yet, keep an ear open for some engine guy ( and gal ) who
> plans to take me up on my offer of bed and breakfast to any travelers
> this way.  Numerous natives from the hinterlands have stayed here
> from time to time, as have several Kiwis. (2)  If you know where to
> purchase the Belzona, how about buying some for me?  I'll get a check
> off to you for it and the T-shirt.  Please let me know when.  Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp 
> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list 
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Sun Mar 30 10:06:24 2008
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:06:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
	<1188.203.12.35.105.1206840959.squirrel@boiler>
Message-ID: <072d01c89288$62cdef50$0201a8c0@pengy>

The Tod Engine project will continue unaffected.  The engine is on property 
that we own, and the majority of money for the new building has been raised. 
Construction will begin this spring or summer, depending upon when we get 
permits.

The Bethlehem project may take me away for a few days every couple of 
months, but otherwise I'll still be plugging away in Youngstown every day.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pjp at steamengine.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.


> About the biggest side shaft engine I've ever seen. Cool that they're
> going to be preserved.
>
> Be careful not to take on too much jeopardising your ability to achieve
> your initial main goal of preserving the Tod Engine.
>
> Paul
>
>> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
>> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
>> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
>> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
>> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
>> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
>> that by a dozen.
>>
>
>
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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun Mar 30 12:52:39 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:52:39 -0700
Subject: [SEL] no longer patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7985757E-DB6B-45E7-9107-6D2BC69EFEBE@rustyiron.com>


On Mar 30, 2008, at 6:14 AM, William Young wrote:

> Rob-san,
>  (1) Please excuse the delay.  My heart rate is just now slowing  
> down to normal after reading the shipping rate ($10 ) for a $12 T- 
> shirt.  You must have been thinking of shipping it over by that  
> famous air carrier FedSex -- for those who need it over night.  Hang  
> on to the T-shirt.  Keep an eye open for the next ark coming over..   
> Or better yet, keep an ear open for some engine guy ( and gal ) who  
> plans to take me up on my offer of bed and breakfast to any  
> travelers this way.  Numerous natives from the hinterlands have  
> stayed here from time to time, as have several Kiwis.

G'day Wakai-san,
I double-checked;  ten bucks to Nippon is what the USPS quotes for a  
one pound package/envelope.  I'll hold on to the goods until the next  
transient engineman passes through the 'hood.

If you're looking for fun stuff during your next stay, be sure to  
check the calendar:  http://wapa.us/calendar.html   I strongly  
recommend the show on May 4.  It's held at the March Field air  
museum.  The antique truck guys will be there, and it appears that  
there will also be an air show that weekend.

When I've been in the past, at least since it was an active air base,  
there has been no iron in the air.  The flyer shows four strangely  
painted F-16's in a tight formation, so maybe this year the  
Thunderbirds will dazzle us with some precision at high speeds.

?? ????


















From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Mar 30 20:32:22 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:32:22 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Show today
Message-ID: <20080330.193222.1164.6.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 G'day Russell.
With our dollar so low, we are getting more Aussies all the time.  If we
don't put up a couple of ropes they go all crazy putting their fingers in
the gears and things.  Just don't understand it.  <VBG>

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:55:45 +1100 Russell Gilbert
<russell at ncable.com.au> writes:
> Ron good to see some nice engines pic's. I'm a bit worried about 
> seeing that rope around them engines. Were you expecting a few 
> Aussie 
> tourists or something.
> Russell
> 


From falcon at telenet.net  Sun Mar 30 22:23:54 2008
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:23:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] no longer patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <7985757E-DB6B-45E7-9107-6D2BC69EFEBE@rustyiron.com>
References: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<7985757E-DB6B-45E7-9107-6D2BC69EFEBE@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <47F0756A.7080307@telenet.net>

  > G'day Wakai-san,
> I double-checked;  ten bucks to Nippon is what the USPS quotes for a  
> one pound package/envelope.  I'll hold on to the goods until the next  
> transient engineman passes through the 'hood.
> 
> If you're looking for fun stuff during your next stay, be sure to  
> check the calendar:  http://wapa.us/calendar.html   I strongly  
> recommend the show on May 4.  It's held at the March Field air  
> museum.  The antique truck guys will be there, and it appears that  
> there will also be an air show that weekend.
> 
> When I've been in the past, at least since it was an active air base,  
> there has been no iron in the air.  The flyer shows four strangely  
> painted F-16's in a tight formation, so maybe this year the  
> Thunderbirds will dazzle us with some precision at high speeds.
> 
> ?????? ????????????


The reason for the price is that they no longer ship small items by ship 
like they used to. They now all go air freight via TA DA- Fed-EX. This 
change occurred about 8 months ago. My BIL lives in Japan and we usually 
send him Christmas presents and other items during the year. The rate 
went WAY up.

The USPS is still the cheaper way though. I priced a parcel with USPS, 
Fed-Ex and UPS and even though the USPS used Fed-Ex the rate was still 5 
bucks cheaper. If you want to save even more, use the postal calculator 
online and pay for everything before you go to the PO, you can print out 
a shipping label and any forms you need and have it ready to go when you 
walk in the door, you will save 5-7 bucks at the least.

-- 
Steve Williams
Firefighter,EMT
VanHornesville Vol. Fire Dept


From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 30 22:36:17 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:36:17 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT: Web authoring on Mac
Message-ID: <20080331053554.GAJO11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

A slightly obscure question but almost engine related. I would prefer to
build my web pages on my Macbook Pro rather than my old PC simply because
the Mac is newer and faster and I can work with it anywhere. Does anyone
have any programs they can recommend for the Mac to author my web pages &
manipulate pictures?

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 30 22:40:14 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:40:14 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Show today
In-Reply-To: <006f01c89233$ba491c00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <20080331053952.HBYG8328.oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

It was a busy weekend for engines. I took my 3.5hp Austral and Ron's 4hp
Austral down to the Canberra Rally on the weekend. They had a good roll up
of engines and a big crowd through the gates on Sunday. I managed to get
sunburnt again but it was a great weekend. I took lots of pics which will be
up on the site some time soon :)
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of R & M Ingold
Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2008 6:00 PM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: Re: Show today

We, the Hunter club, had our annual event this weekend.
A nice little show but there were a lot of other engine,etc.shows on too so 
attendance was down.
I took some pics but there was a bloody great greasy fingerprint on the 
lens! Dunno who could have done that!!
However, the details on the pics are somewhat 'Softened'
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Mar 31 03:45:36 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:45:36 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics
Message-ID: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar 31 03:55:09 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:55:09 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds - JB
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net><004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>

G'Day All

I have used JB weld in an application I have not heard on the List before, 
although I am sure other would have tried it
The JB is standing up well and at this stage has save me the expense of a 
new 5 1/2 in re-sleeve and 4 new rings
see
http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/temporary13.html

Kerry
Lithgow NSW Oz 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 31 06:32:19 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:32:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds - JB
In-Reply-To: <830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net><004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>
	<830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <E47B3064-17EF-40FA-B3A8-BB5CB8C295D2@alltel.net>

Hi Kerry, Very nice job. That's an application that I never would  
have believed would work!
	Dave
PS, Don't know if you realize it or not but it was George W. Bush who  
invented JB Weld--just about the same time that ALGORE invented the  
internet!



On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Kerry wrote:

> G'Day All
>
> I have used JB weld in an application I have not heard on the List  
> before,
> although I am sure other would have tried it
> The JB is standing up well and at this stage has save me the  
> expense of a
> new 5 1/2 in re-sleeve and 4 new rings
> see
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/temporary13.html
>
> Kerry
> Lithgow NSW Oz


From oldironnut at alltel.net  Mon Mar 31 07:36:32 2008
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:36:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <6EB8BDB1-12D8-4D95-82FE-410BA04C2086@alltel.net>

Great pictures, Patrick!  Gotta' love that 1899 National!

Mike

On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Patrick M Livingstone wrote:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html

______________________
Michael Tucker
oldironnut at alltel.net
Versailles, Kentucky, USA
______________________





From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 31 11:00:26 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:00:26 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001601c89359$1a8a41e0$4f9ec5a0$@com.au>

Good stuff Patrick, some nice engines down there, thanks. Cam

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick M
Livingstone
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:46 PM
To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 15:34:41 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Show today
In-Reply-To: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <597366.71236.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ron,
Thanks for the pictures of that little show.
Gatherings of that size are fun.
I wish we had more of those here.
I will do some asking around the engine area at the Buckley show 
this year and if I can get other folks interested maybe we can find 
some of the smaller town events that would let some of us set up a display.

After this long Winter here it hurt just a bit to look at that event and not be there. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan




--- rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Once again the Western Antique Power Associates were invited to
> participate in the Highland Citrus Festival.
> This is located in Highland California, next to San Bernardino.  It was
> cool and overcast most of the day, only making it into the mid 60s F.  We
> had a nice club turnout and the crowd was the largest I can remember. 
> Here are some pictures of our display.  Enjoy.
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestival2008
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


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From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 16:47:27 2008
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <597366.71236.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
  Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
  2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
  Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25      
  Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased and used this product.  Comments?
  Bill in Japan
wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp
  SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 31 17:05:53 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:05:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080331200553.5P4WH.24194.root@fepweb08>


---- William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
>   Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
>   2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
>   Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25      
>   Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased and used this product.  Comments?
>   Bill in Japan
Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping compound.
J.B. Castagnos


From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 31 17:06:15 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:06:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
Message-ID: <20080331200615.U913B.24210.root@fepweb08>


---- William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
>   Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
>   2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
>   Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25      
>   Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased and used this product.  Comments?
>   Bill in Japan
Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping compound.
J.B. Castagnos


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon Mar 31 17:27:50 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:27:50 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C9966D9A-5BDE-4C75-B6B0-CFF611D9A2DD@rustyiron.com>


On Mar 31, 2008, at 4:47 PM, William Young wrote:

> FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping  
> compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response  
> from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their  
> yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
>  Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
>  2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
>  Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25
>  Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size  
> to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually  
> purchased and used this product.  Comments?


I'll give you an old hacksaw blade that can be sharpened so you can  
scrape your own bearings.








From zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz  Mon Mar 31 13:53:14 2008
From: zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz (Arnie)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:53:14 +1300 (New Zealand Daylight Time)
Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field
Message-ID: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98>

Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not 
all vintage 
      Have a look at    www.wovintage.co.nz   and bring up the photo gallery

 
   Regards to all
Arnie Laird       zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz
  Mahia
   NZ

From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 31 17:58:45 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:58:45 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <C9966D9A-5BDE-4C75-B6B0-CFF611D9A2DD@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <20080331205845.3VPY1.26359.root@fepweb08>


> 
> I'll give you an old hacksaw blade that can be sharpened so you can  
> scrape your own bearings.
> 
> 
Rob, I'm doing a set of main brgs right now, my favorite scraper is a used piston ring. They wear sharp, hold it between your fingers and thumbs and you can rotate it to fit the curve of the bearing,  scrapes an easy to control amount.
J.B. Castagnos


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Mon Mar 31 18:31:17 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:31:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field
References: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98>
Message-ID: <001a01c89398$15c89c80$06d74c0c@D48VHZ61>

Thanks for sharing, very interesting! Especially the last photo--the guy 
driving the JD up the ramps. Appears they had a rather diverse group of 
sizes and brands to turn out for the event. I'll pass it along to teh AT 
list.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie" <zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field


> Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not
> all vintage
>      Have a look at    www.wovintage.co.nz   and bring up the photo 
> gallery
>
>
>   Regards to all
> Arnie Laird       zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz
>  Mahia
>   NZ
> 


From klbandy at dtccom.net  Mon Mar 31 19:37:28 2008
From: klbandy at dtccom.net (Kevin L. Bandy)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:37:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Alexandria, TN Show April 19, 2008
Message-ID: <9D77D0FFAC644F6BB7C7FEFB3137DFBA@KevinPC>

DeKalb Community Bank Antique Tractor & Engine Show
306 Brush Creek Road, Alexandria, TN

Interstate 40, Alexandria exit onto Highway 53 South.  Bank is 7 miles on left.

9am until 2pm

Door prizes, rides for the kids, bluegrass music, quilt show and apple bake-off for the ladies!  Concessions provided by the Alexandria Lions Club.

website: http://bailifffamily.com/dcb/show.htm

Everyone welcome!

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From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar 31 17:19:48 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:19:48 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds - JB
In-Reply-To: <E47B3064-17EF-40FA-B3A8-BB5CB8C295D2@alltel.net>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net><004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61><BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl><830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>
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Message-ID: <1EEB8B295B914D53B2EE9C30CC86B6F4@KerryPC>

G'Day Dave
Oh crap, Now I know the job will not last, I did not realize "W" had 
anything to do with it and I think you are wrong about big AL as he wants us 
to go back to smoke signals.

Made a mistake with the bore size on the 8HP it is 7 1/2 inch with 13 in 
stroke

Kerry


> Hi Kerry, Very nice job. That's an application that I never would
> have believed would work!
> Dave
> PS, Don't know if you realize it or not but it was George W. Bush who
> invented JB Weld--just about the same time that ALGORE invented the
> internet!
>
> 



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Mar  3 03:43:08 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:43:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20080111215137.00b94c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>

Jerry:

 I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't 
get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on 
here?  I would love to get this completed.

Thanks,
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction


> Hi Guys,
>         The SEL Charity Auction is almost over.  This year it seemed to be
> a bit quiet !
>
>         I was just wondering why - did you guys also get that feeling?
>
>         Has it lost it's appeal ? Was it not publicized enough ? Was
> everyone too busy celebrating to care ?
>
>         Just wondering.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
>
>
>
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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Mon Mar  3 09:28:23 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:28:23 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
In-Reply-To: <002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20080111215137.00b94c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <47CC3537.2000100@xplornet.com>

	I have the same question and results. Good to know I'm not the only one.

Rupert

Mike Royster wrote:
> Jerry:
> 
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't 
> get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on 
> here?  I would love to get this completed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Mon Mar  3 10:25:58 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:25:58 EST
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
Message-ID: <c5a.287209b6.34fd9cb6@aol.com>

 
I have to jump in here, too, as I have tried to find where to send payment  
but had no response.
Ron Carroll 
Clearmont, MO
 
In a message dated 3/3/2008 11:29:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
rwenig2 at xplornet.com writes:

I have the same question and results. Good to know I'm not the only  one.

Rupert

Mike Royster wrote:
> Jerry:
>  
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times,  but I 
can't 
> get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do  you know what is going 
on 
> here?  I would love to get this  completed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
--
yvt

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Mar  3 12:46:44 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:46:44 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
         I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

"<http://mail.cyberserv.co.za/Xaf849999c8cb93cb9d8358962d/newmsg.cgi?mbx=Main&to=glenn.karch at verizon.net><glenn.karch at verizon.net>: 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
     4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
     RCPT TO command)"

         Please contact me using the address in this mail.

         Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From oiseming at moscow.com  Mon Mar  3 15:44:34 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:44:34 -0800
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <200803032344.m23NiktO026245@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Quote: "Orrin - we haven't heard from you in ages?"
         
Well, this probably explains it:

http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/BBS/Hey_Look.htm

I've been busier than a long-tailed cat in a room-full of rocking chairs.
When the show is over I'll send you all I can to help you make some Knowlton
name plates.  I blew the chance to get pictures of an original, last summer.
My bad. 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:25 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: NOT A TEST !!

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         This is going out to my 2 favorite lists. "Jim's List" and the 
SEL. (Actually my "ONLY" lists. :-)

         Hell these list are sure quiet these days ! What's up ?  What're 
you Yanks doing? I hope you are digging snow away from those engine sheds. 
It'll be summer soon for you guys (and winter for us - damn!).

         12.30 a.m. here and I'm sitting waiting for a batch of engine 
plates to finish etching. -keep checking eMail - just in case one of you 
sent a message to the list. Nothing. 




From glenn.karch at att.net  Mon Mar  3 17:05:27 2008
From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:05:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <113431.91764.qm@web83717.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Jerry,

My email is now glenn.karch at att.net


----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 2:46:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
        I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

"<http://mail.cyberserv.co.za/Xaf849999c8cb93cb9d8358962d/newmsg.cgi?mbx=Main&to=glenn.karch at verizon.net><glenn.karch at verizon.net>: 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
    4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
    RCPT TO command)"

        Please contact me using the address in this mail.

        Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


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From skipl130 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 17:51:02 2008
From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:51:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
In-Reply-To: <113431.91764.qm@web83717.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <705870.34685.qm@web35311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

glenn, is it ok to send your pulley?  skip

Glenn Karch <glenn.karch at att.net> wrote:  Hi Jerry,

My email is now glenn.karch at att.net


----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Evans 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 2:46:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

": 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
RCPT TO command)"

Please contact me using the address in this mail.

Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 18:27:43 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
In-Reply-To: <002c01c87d23$c0daef00$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <105087.52508.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

After not getting a reply to many emails I did a rearch and found this address.
ATIS Charity Auction
C/O  Spencer Yost
3160 MacBrandon Lane
Pfafftown, NC 27040

Just sent payments there.   As far as I can tell you will not get any reply saying you have paid. 
I sure didn't.
Be sure to add a note that says what you are paying for.
Add your email and phone number too.

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan


--- Mike Royster <mr at carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> Jerry:
> 
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't 
> get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on 
> here?  I would love to get this completed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:56 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction
> 
> 
> > Hi Guys,
> >         The SEL Charity Auction is almost over.  This year it seemed to be
> > a bit quiet !
> >
> >         I was just wondering why - did you guys also get that feeling?
> >
> >         Has it lost it's appeal ? Was it not publicized enough ? Was
> > everyone too busy celebrating to care ?
> >
> >         Just wondering.
> >
> > Keep the revs up (or down)
> > Jerry Evans
> > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> > www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1206 - Release Date: 
> > 01/01/2008 12:09 PM
> >
> >
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From glenn.karch at att.net  Mon Mar  3 19:27:26 2008
From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <798346.84328.qm@web83730.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yes, you may send it.  I just got back.


Thanks,

Glenn


----- Original Message ----
From: Skip Landis <skipl130 at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 7:51:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

glenn, is it ok to send your pulley?  skip

Glenn Karch <glenn.karch at att.net> wrote:  Hi Jerry,

My email is now glenn.karch at att.net


----- Original Message ----
From: Jerry Evans 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 2:46:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Glenn Karch

Sorry to use the list for this Guys.

Hi Glenn,
I tried to send you mail but got the following error:

": 
host relay.verizon.net[206.46.232.11] said: 550
4.2.1 mailbox temporarily disabled: glenn.karch at verizon.net (in reply to
RCPT TO command)"

Please contact me using the address in this mail.

Many thanks

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Mar  3 15:25:22 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:25:22 +0200
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         This is going out to my 2 favorite lists. "Jim's List" and the 
SEL. (Actually my "ONLY" lists. :-)

         Hell these list are sure quiet these days ! What's up ?  What're 
you Yanks doing? I hope you are digging snow away from those engine sheds. 
It'll be summer soon for you guys (and winter for us - damn!).

         12.30 a.m. here and I'm sitting waiting for a batch of engine 
plates to finish etching. -keep checking eMail - just in case one of you 
sent a message to the list. Nothing.

         Arnie, Dave, are you out there ? Normally we can expect some witty 
or otherwise comment from you guys - nothing for ages. Hey, I miss your 
"attitude".

         Reg, mate, what you doing? Nothing new to show us?

         Orrin - we haven't heard from you in ages?

         Peter (in Albany, Aus.) hows that mystery "hot bulb" coming on?

         Patrick, Brad, the 2 Peter's, Scotty, Kerry and quite a few more 
names - what are you Aus guys up to?

         Oom Bill-san - what's happening in  Japan?

         Peter Forbes, Dave Croft, what's happening in "Pommie" Land ?.

         Who's going to be at the Nuenen show in Holland :
<http://home.hetnet.nl/~antonvandercruijsen/>

                 George Best you said you were going. There is a good 
chance I will attend for at least one day. Nothing definite yet but I will 
be visiting my brother in Munich at that time and am doing my best to 
convince him that a trip to Holland would be good!!!

         Hey guys - I used to correspond a lot with John Hammink - I sure 
miss him as I'm sure a lot of you do as well.

         O.K. Plates have finished etching - I'm off to bed. Keep well my 
friends.









Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Mar  4 07:49:42 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:49:42 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590620ACE3@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

 Jerry,

Unfortunately it looks like I won't be at Nuenen this year :-(
I'd sure like to go for a 3rd year in a row as it is a great show.

Problem is my wife volunteered us to keep the youngest grandkid, while
her parents and older siblings go to Disneyland. Unfortunately, their
trip is the same time as the Neunen show :-( Grandma doesn't want to be
stuck home alone with a 3 year old while I'm off having fun in Europe.
I think I can understand her point of view ;-)

We've already told the kids that no more May vacations if they want us
to keep the grandkids!

Jerry, while you're visiting your brother in Munich you should go to the
Deutsches Museum to see their engine collection.  I haven't been to the
museum yet, but from what I've heard it is supposed to be good.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Evans
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:25 PM


         Who's going to be at the Nuenen show in Holland :
<http://home.hetnet.nl/~antonvandercruijsen/>

                 George Best you said you were going. There is a good
chance I will attend for at least one day. Nothing definite yet but I
will be visiting my brother in Munich at that time and am doing my best
to convince him that a trip to Holland would be good!!!


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From oldironnut at alltel.net  Tue Mar  4 08:07:11 2008
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:07:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>

Howdy all,

Since it's pretty quiet on the list I thought that I would let you  
know that Lincoln's MacLeod served up another round of education last  
night.  Lincoln's Boy Scout troop is doing their Winter merit badge  
classes and one of them is auto mechanics.  Last night was the first  
class and we wanted to give a good introduction to what a 4 cycle  
engine is.  What better way to do that than to wheel in a hit-n-miss  
engine since they can clearly see exactly what we mean by suck,  
squeeze, bang and blow.  Anyway, it went very well and we got a lot of  
good questions on both the engine itself as well as what was going on  
when the engine was running and how it related to "modern" engines.

See ya',
Mike
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From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 09:12:08 2008
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:12:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080304002327.00b9fe80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <855405.77319.qm@web59204.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Jerry-san,     Bill Young reporting in from Japan,  I read everything, delete some and file stuff I think  might be of valve.
   I have just returned to Japan from a month in Thailand.  I always go south for the winter, always hitting Thailand and occasionally Burma ( or whatever it is called today ) Laos, Viet Nam, OZ & NZ.  Cut it short this year when folks at home told me spring had sprung.
    Found a whole pile of engines in Laos 2 years ago.  That's the good news.  They were in a govt. scrap yard and could not be had.  Date for smelter had already been fixed.  That's the sad news
    Keep in touch.  A special Hello to The Bessie Bunch.  Bill






From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Mar  4 14:04:20 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:04:20 EST
Subject: [SEL] NOT A TEST !!
Message-ID: <ce5.2a1e3a1a.34ff2164@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/4/2008 10:02:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
jerrye at databak.co.za writes:

Hey guys - I used to correspond a lot with John Hammink - I sure 
miss him as I'm sure a lot of you do as well

MY sentiments exactly!!!
 
 
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Mar  5 03:56:01 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:56:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <47CE8A51.6010606@scrtc.com>

Glenn,
    Sorry to go through the SEL but I can't send you an email as it 
always bounces back.  I think your spam filter is rejecting my email 
address.  I'll give you a call.  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnola, KY




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar  5 05:50:12 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:50:12 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Green steam engine
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080305154431.00ba75f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Does anyone have any knowledge of this engine/plans.
<http://www.greensteamengine.com/>

         A mate of mine is keen to order the plans and I thought I'd first 
ask the guru's out there if anyone knows anything about it.

         Thanks in advance

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Mar  5 11:47:09 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:47:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
Message-ID: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>

Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on 
the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



From oldironnut at alltel.net  Wed Mar  5 11:59:25 2008
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:59:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>

Tommy,

I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom (gallowayengine at comcast.net 
) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from  
Annapolis.

See ya',
Mike

On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?   
> Thanks.

______________________
Michael Tucker
oldironnut at alltel.net
Versailles, Kentucky, USA
______________________





From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Mar  5 12:30:01 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:30:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
	<DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com>

Thanks Mike!

Tommy Turner





Michael Tucker wrote:

>Tommy,
>
>I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom (gallowayengine at comcast.net 
>) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from  
>Annapolis.
>
>See ya',
>Mike
>
>On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>>the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?   
>>Thanks.
>>    
>>
>
>______________________
>Michael Tucker
>oldironnut at alltel.net
>Versailles, Kentucky, USA
>______________________
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>  
>



From bigtime64 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  5 16:31:20 2008
From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:31:20 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W9DFB86AF4927D177BF953B4120@phx.gbl>


Thats great Mike.  Are you the merit badge counselor?  
 
Jacob took the Regimota / New Holland model engine to school for a demonstration speech.  I warned him about engines and their ability to show their true colors and be a pain to start in front of a crowd.  He said it started and ran perfectly at the first flip of the flywheels.  I guess I gotta get some lessons from him before I dispense any more advise.  
 
Ed Herreid
Trevor WI USA> From: oldironnut at alltel.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:07:11 -0500> Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!> > Howdy all,> > Since it's pretty quiet on the list I thought that I would let you > know that Lincoln's MacLeod served up another round of education last > night. Lincoln's Boy Scout troop is doing their Winter merit badge > classes and one of them is auto mechanics. Last night was the first > class and we wanted to give a good introduction to what a 4 cycle > engine is. What better way to do that than to wheel in a hit-n-miss > engine since they can clearly see exactly what we mean by suck, > squeeze, bang and blow. Anyway, it went very well and we got a lot of > good questions on both the engine itself as well as what was going on > when the engine was running and how it related to "modern" engines.> > See ya',> Mike> ______________________> Michael Tucker> oldironnut at alltel.net> Versailles, Kentucky, USA> ______________________> > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From yostsw at atis.net  Wed Mar  5 20:39:56 2008
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:39:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
In-Reply-To: <009e01c87c2c$5b0245e0$6601a8c0@FAMILYROOM>
References: <000601c86b6b$dbdc26d0$4a49d342@avci.net><65CCBDA2BFB74E86F1DD8707@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880><000401c86c3f$ff15fe30$4a49d342@avci.net><000301c86d09$69897b10$3619a58e@workst>	<000301c86d37$9988b000$4a49d342@avci.net>
	<009e01c87c2c$5b0245e0$6601a8c0@FAMILYROOM>
Message-ID: <47CF759C.2040706@atis.net>

I think the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we 
are ready to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site 
and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the 
poll that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before 
you vote.

http://www.atis.net/forums

As usual, I'll be out of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able 
to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.  

Happy nominating and voting!

Spencer


From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Thu Mar  6 00:06:22 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:06:22 EST
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
Message-ID: <be9.2ab86abb.3500fffe@aol.com>

 
Hi Spencer,
 
I think I owe $35 and have not yet sent it because I don't know where to  
mail it.  Please advise me so that I can be square with this.
 
Ron Carroll
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
yostsw at atis.net writes:

I think  the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we 
are ready  to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site 
and  make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the 
poll  that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before  
you vote.

http://www.atis.net/forums

As usual, I'll be out  of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able 
to check in every 1 to 3  3 days.  

Happy nominating and  voting!

Spencer


 



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From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu Mar  6 02:52:05 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:52:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>

Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to 
purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and 
chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could 
drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up 
some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short 
was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before 
you know it I have purcahsed  6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I 
couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the 
engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for 
sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old 
girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some 
tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came 
around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent 
about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running 
that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work, 
I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet 
plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in 
about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl 
to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.

cheers, Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Thu Mar  6 03:26:41 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:26:41 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001601c87f7c$f4710920$67206d3a@Edd>

That's a great buy Russell.They run real slow and look good.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:52 PM
Subject: [SEL] right place right time


> Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to 
> purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and 
> chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could 
> drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up 
> some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short 
> was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before 
> you know it I have purcahsed  6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I 
> couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the 
> engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for 
> sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old 
> girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some 
> tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came 
> around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent 
> about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running 
> that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work, 
> I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet 
> plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in 
> about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl 
> to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.
> 
> cheers, Russell
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> 
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu Mar  6 03:40:24 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:40:24 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
References: <be9.2ab86abb.3500fffe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c87f7e$de06bed0$726f4b47@mikecomp>

Same here, I owe for 2 tags.

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MaytagTwin at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site


>
> Hi Spencer,
>
> I think I owe $35 and have not yet sent it because I don't know where to
> mail it.  Please advise me so that I can be square with this.
>
> Ron Carroll
>
>
> In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> yostsw at atis.net writes:
>
> I think  the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we
> are ready  to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site
> and  make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the
> poll  that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before
> you vote.
>
> http://www.atis.net/forums
>
> As usual, I'll be out  of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able
> to check in every 1 to 3  3 days.
>
> Happy nominating and  voting!
>
> Spencer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Thu Mar  6 04:39:32 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:39:32 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <004301c87f87$24d042c0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

What a great find Russell. Can't wait to see it running. Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:52 PM
Subject: [SEL] right place right time


> Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to
> purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and
> chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could
> drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up
> some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short
> was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before
> you know it I have purcahsed  6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I
> couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the
> engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for
> sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old
> girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some
> tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came
> around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent
> about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running
> that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work,
> I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet
> plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in
> about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl
> to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.
>
> cheers, Russell
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Mar  6 05:46:14 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Thu,  6 Mar 2008 08:46:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
In-Reply-To: <47CF759C.2040706@atis.net>
References: <000601c86b6b$dbdc26d0$4a49d342@avci.net><65CCBDA2BFB74E86F1DD8707@9EC685DA62BCA5695D804880><000401c86c3f$ff15fe30$4a49d342@avci.net><000301c86d09$69897b10$3619a58e@workst>
	<000301c86d37$9988b000$4a49d342@avci.net>
	<009e01c87c2c$5b0245e0$6601a8c0@FAMILYROOM>
	<47CF759C.2040706@atis.net>
Message-ID: <1204811174.47cff5a66cafc@webmail.city-net.com>

Hiya Spencer,

I'd be happy to offer up suggestions if you post the info to the Stationary
Engine LIST.  I have no interest in the forum.  Thanks.

I personally think the idea of trying to push an "either - or, LIST vs. Forum)"
environment is a bad idea.

Arnie

Quoting Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>:

> I think the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we 
> are ready to discuss sending out the money.    Drop by the forum site 
> and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the 
> poll that is set up.   Be sure to read the message under the poll before 
> you vote.
> 
> http://www.atis.net/forums
> 
> As usual, I'll be out of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able 
> to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.  
> 
> Happy nominating and voting!
> 
> Spencer




From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar  6 05:47:52 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:47:52 -0600
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001901c87f90$ad4a3940$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

Dude !!!That was only 3X's !      
Good shootin' for sure man . 
Chuck Balyeat 
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm


From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar  6 06:00:26 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:00:26 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Old iron to the rescue!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303224314.00ba8d70@mail.cyberserv.co.za><C364AD50-0ECA-4642-8BAA-02AAF42C5907@alltel.net>
	<BAY139-W9DFB86AF4927D177BF953B4120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002601c87f92$6e82d580$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

   I guess I gotta get some lessons from him before I dispense any more 
advise.
 Ed Herreid
/////////////////////

Time and wear is on your side my friend   .
And if  anything was ever a sure bet ,
That'd be  wear  .

Chuck Balyeat
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm





From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Thu Mar  6 12:04:44 2008
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:04:44 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site
In-Reply-To: <000f01c87f7e$de06bed0$726f4b47@mikecomp>
References: <be9.2ab86abb.3500fffe@aol.com>
	<000f01c87f7e$de06bed0$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <BLU135-W2653BB18EDEAFAB26B2783C8120@phx.gbl>


I also owe some money Spencer, but don't know where to send my check. (1 tag)Luke TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA=================================
> From: mr at carolina.rr.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:40:24 -0500> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > Same here, I owe for 2 tags.> > Mike Royster> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MaytagTwin at aol.com>> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 AM> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > > >> > Hi Spencer,> >> > I think I owe $35 and have not yet sent it because I don't know where to> > mail it. Please advise me so that I can be square with this.> >> > Ron Carroll> >> >> > In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,> > yostsw at atis.net writes:> >> > I think the last of the charity auction money came in last week, so we> > are ready to discuss sending out the money. Drop by the forum site> > and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the> > poll that is set up. Be sure to read the message under the poll before> > you vote.> >> > http://www.atis.net/forums> >> > As usual, I'll be out of town a lot the next 10 days but should be able> > to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.> >> > Happy nominating and voting!> >> > Spencer> >
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From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu Mar  6 13:17:13 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:17:13 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
In-Reply-To: <001901c87f90$ad4a3940$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
	<001901c87f90$ad4a3940$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080307081449.022553c8@ncable.com.au>

thanks for the comments guys; Chuck I thought that if I put that 
fourth X in there you would have got the wrong idea :-)

I have put a few pictures of it up on my webshots for them who want's a look!
cheers.


At 12:47 AM 7/03/2008, you wrote:
>Dude !!!That was only 3X's !
>Good shootin' for sure man .
>Chuck Balyeat
>http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com  Thu Mar  6 14:51:38 2008
From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:51:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080306214155.0222aba0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY131-W19C8E8F15882241FF2CF5FA3120@phx.gbl>


Well done mate. They are a beautiful engine. Sorry I missed you at the swap. I think you were off doing the deal when I was at your site. Looking forward to pics.
Regards.Lyndsay. > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:52:05 +1100> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: russell at ncable.com.au> Subject: [SEL] right place right time> > Went to the Ballarat swap a couple of weeks ago. No big plans to > purchase anything but rather enjoy the socail side of meeting and > chatting to likeminded engine men. A mate of mine asked if I could > drive him to a small town about a hour away from Ballarat to pick up > some tractor parts he was after. An interesting long story made short > was I asked the tractor guy if he had any engines for sale and before > you know it I have purcahsed 6.5hp Walker Star engine No815. I > couldn't believe my ears when he said he had no interest 9n the > engine and if I wanted it it was XXXDollars. I reasonable price for > sure. These are a girder frame engine and run very well. This old > girl looked to be in pretty good nick but deffinately needing some > tinkering. Well got it home and the word was out quick, a mate came > around and talked me into working on it. Well the two of us spent > about 3 hours Saturday last and bugger me if we did'nt get it running > that day. I don't have photos up yet. It still needs plenty of work, > I have it running off the feul bowl with the bottom water outlet > plugged to at least flood the barel for cooling. It fires once in > about 22 to 24 revoluotions so you don't ned to top up the feul bowl > to often. Just goe's to show you never know when your luck pirks up.> > cheers, Russell> Russell Gilbert> Sunny Sunraysia> russell at ncable.com.au> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Mar  3 10:25:41 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:25:41 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 48, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1204563602.2589.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080303200926.00ba0ec0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 03/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:43:08 -0500
>From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity Auction
>
>Jerry:
>  I won the Charity Auction and have emailed them several times, but I can't
>get a response as to how I can get them paid.  Do you know what is going on
>here?  I would love to get this completed.
>Thanks,
>Mike

Hi Mike (and Luke),
         I remember from last year that Spencer does take some chasing. 
He's busy and hard to get him to reply to eMail.
         Just send the payment to him but you've gotta find out what 
address he uses for PayPal. Last year I seem to remember that I sent 
payment to the wrong eMail addy and had to cancel it as it remained 
unclaimed. I eventually found the correct address and it was accepted.

         I'll reply off list with the address I used but I have no idea if 
this is where he wants it sent - you'll have to check with him.

         In the meantime send me the details of the plate you want and I'll 
start on it. You guys over there can sort out the details - You won the 
plate on the auction and that's what counts to for me. I'll make it.


Keep the revs up (or down)
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Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Mar  7 04:49:25 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 23:49:25 +1100
Subject: [SEL] IHC Tank cooled pics wanted please
Message-ID: <004f01c88051$ac86c980$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi all
Does anyone have some good photos of a tank cooled IHC vertical famous they 
could sent to me please.
Send to plowe at exemail.com.au


Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Mar  7 17:21:16 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:21:16 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
Message-ID: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi folks.
	Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. She
had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
the fingers. 
Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try and
keep everyone informed. 
The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
still having problems with blood flow.
I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From Germoamer at aol.com  Fri Mar  7 17:26:02 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:26:02 EST
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
Message-ID: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>

I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
T's.  The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn powered a 
belt pulley to the wood saw.  I have received a call about one that I am going 
to see this weekend.  It supposedly is all original and in excellent condition.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar  7 17:36:22 2008
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:36:22 -0600
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <02d701c880bc$d19e0420$210110ac@FAMILY>

Thanks Patrick, I will certainly be praying for Liz, Ron and the family 
tonight. Do you know what happened?

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident


> Hi folks.
> Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
> Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. 
> She
> had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
> the fingers.
> Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try 
> and
> keep everyone informed.
> The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
> still having problems with blood flow.
> I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Mar  7 18:11:48 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 18:11:48 -0800
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
In-Reply-To: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <200803080212.m282BvjS055156@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Tom, I have some pix and can send them via private e-mail.  Do you want high
resolution pictures for printing or low-res for screen viewing?

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
Germoamer at aol.com
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:26 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw

I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
T's.  The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn
powered a 
belt pulley to the wood saw.  I have received a call about one that I am
going 
to see this weekend.  It supposedly is all original and in excellent
condition.
 
Thanks,
  
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com





From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Mar  7 18:18:08 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:18:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
In-Reply-To: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <47D1F760.3020407@scrtc.com>

This is terrible news Patrick.  Having had the end of a finger amputated 
and reattached about 5 years ago, I know on a small scale what she is 
going through.  There are so many nerve endings in the fingers that 
reattachment surgery can be very painful for a long time after its 
over.  I had the tip of my right middle finger pinched off about 2 
months ago.  They sewed it back and its healing and no more pain.  This 
wasn't nearly as serious as the other accident I had as it didn't cut 
the bone off, just tissue.  Still hurt though.  We'll be saying some 
prayers for Liz.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




Patrick M Livingstone wrote:

>Hi folks.
>	Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
>Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. She
>had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
>the fingers. 
>Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try and
>keep everyone informed. 
>The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
>still having problems with blood flow.
>I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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>
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From canuckiron at wightman.ca  Sat Mar  8 06:34:57 2008
From: canuckiron at wightman.ca (Duncan Denman)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:34:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
In-Reply-To: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
References: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47D2A411.2090705@wightman.ca>

Hi Tom,

Fellow up here had one of those and used to run it with a Model T sedan. 
Worked really well.

Duncan

Germoamer at aol.com wrote:

>I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
>T's.  The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
>which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn powered a 
>belt pulley to the wood saw.  I have received a call about one that I am going 
>to see this weekend.  It supposedly is all original and in excellent condition.
> 
>Thanks,
> 
> 
>Tom Schmutz
>Concord, Va.
>Germoamer at aol.com
>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Mar  8 09:16:09 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Sat,  8 Mar 2008 12:16:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Oilfield Engine in the Wild and on the Lease
Message-ID: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>

AND it's for sale on eBay!!  8-))
The description is pretty interesing historically.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220208059273

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com






From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 10:54:25 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:54:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site PAYMENTS
In-Reply-To: <BLU135-W2653BB18EDEAFAB26B2783C8120@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <37210.87758.qm@web37309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Like I already wrote once,,,,

After not getting a reply to many emails I did a search and found
 this address.
ATIS Charity Auction
C/O  Spencer Yost
3160 MacBrandon Lane
Pfafftown, NC 27040

Just sent payments there.   As far as I can tell you will not get any
 reply saying you have paid. 
I sure didn't.
Be sure to add a note that says what you are paying for.
Add your email and phone number too.

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

--- Luke Tonneberger <flywheelin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I also owe some money Spencer, but don't know where to send my check. (1 tag)Luke
> TonnebergerRockford, MichiganUSA=================================
> > From: mr at carolina.rr.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:40:24
> -0500> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > Same here, I owe for 2
> tags.> > Mike Royster> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MaytagTwin at aol.com>> To:
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:06 AM> Subject: Re: [SEL]
> Charity auction discussion at the forum site> > > >> > Hi Spencer,> >> > I think I owe $35 and
> have not yet sent it because I don't know where to> > mail it. Please advise me so that I can be
> square with this.> >> > Ron Carroll> >> >> > In a message dated 3/5/2008 10:41:28 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,> > yostsw at atis.net writes:> >> > I think the last of the charity auction money
> came in last week, so we> > are ready to discuss sending out the money. Drop by the forum site>
> > and make nominations and be ready to discuss nominations and vote in the> > poll that is set
> up. Be sure to read the message under the !
>  poll before> > you vote.> >> > http://www.atis.net/forums> >> > As usual, I'll be out of town a
> lot the next 10 days but should be able> > to check in every 1 to 3 3 days.> >> > Happy
> nominating and voting!> >> > Spencer> >
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 11:07:49 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:07:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] right place right time
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080307081449.022553c8@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <56091.73394.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That sure is a great find, Russell.
Very sweet looking engine indeed.

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan



--- Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au> wrote:

> thanks for the comments guys; Chuck I thought that if I put that 
> fourth X in there you would have got the wrong idea :-)
> 
> I have put a few pictures of it up on my webshots for them who want's a look!
> cheers.
> 
> 
> At 12:47 AM 7/03/2008, you wrote:
> >Dude !!!That was only 3X's !
> >Good shootin' for sure man .
> >Chuck Balyeat
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Mar  8 02:57:37 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:57:37 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         My friend Neville Botha has acquired a Petter Atomic 15 H.P. which 
he wishes to start restoring.
         Unfortunately it has a number of missing parts (I do not have 
details right now) and he is looking for information, pictures or manuals 
which may help him. Possibly also contact with any other owners of a 
similar engine to correspond with.
         There is precious little info on the net about them so I hope you 
guys can help again.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Sat Mar  8 13:41:27 2008
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:41:27 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <B55BCEF6955C498D820ABAD510379F6B@FBI>

Hi Jerry

Jim's got a 6HP Atomic.  Sorry, the only pic I've put online is here
http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/jimstoys3.htm
As to missing parts, guaranteed one of them will be the injector (nozzle), 
which is as rare as rocking horse poo studded with hens teeth.  However, 
there are similar ones about which will make the engine pop and bang as 
required!
Talk to Paul Evans of Internal Fire http://www.internalfire.com/

Look forward to seeing pics!

Regards,
Dolly & Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>

>         My friend Neville Botha has acquired a Petter Atomic 15 H.P. which
> he wishes to start restoring.
>         Unfortunately it has a number of missing parts (I do not have
> details right now) and he is looking for information, pictures or manuals
> which may help him. Possibly also contact with any other owners of a
> similar engine to correspond with.
>         There is precious little info on the net about them so I hope you
> guys can help again.



From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Sat Mar  8 15:00:16 2008
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:00:16 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080308125316.00baf2f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000d01c88170$319cf7b0$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

Jerry.......My friend just around the corner has one and it is a ''Big 
Bastard'' used to drive the Ammonia compressor at a meat works .It is not a 
runner but it is all there and I can get whatever pics you want.......not 
sure about the HP but will check.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.


> Hi Guys,
>         My friend Neville Botha has acquired a Petter Atomic 15 H.P. which
> he wishes to start restoring.
>         Unfortunately it has a number of missing parts (I do not have
> details right now) and he is looking for information, pictures or manuals
> which may help him. Possibly also contact with any other owners of a
> similar engine to correspond with.
>         There is precious little info on the net about them so I hope you
> guys can help again.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
>
>
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From tilinghast at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 16:33:00 2008
From: tilinghast at yahoo.com (David DeWitt)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:33:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] woodsaw
In-Reply-To: <c10.2ce790c4.3503452a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <732536.42378.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Tom...We had a neighbor that had a 1948 Plymouth jacked up on 1 rear wheel with a belt over the rear tire that ran to a regular belt driven saw. He heated and cooked with wood so that old Plymouth worked pretty regular. Wish I had taken a picture of it.  When I was a kid my Dad did the same thing with an old war surplus jeep. We only used the wood for cooking though so didn't have to buzz as much wood.
    Dave.

Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
  I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model 
T's. The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set on 
which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn powered a 
belt pulley to the wood saw. I have received a call about one that I am going 
to see this weekend. It supposedly is all original and in excellent condition.

Thanks,


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 23:48:41 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:48:41 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
Message-ID: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>

I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
at Portland last summer.

As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
feedback as to how they come out.

The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen format:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  9 03:53:08 2008
From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 03:53:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39966.87430.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.


Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote: I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
at Portland last summer.

As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
feedback as to how they come out.

The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen format:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
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http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 04:08:34 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:08:34 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <39966.87430.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<39966.87430.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, S. Work <endacomm10 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.
>

They all open and run correctly in Windows Media Player.

They were all checked for running before we uploaded them, might be
worth checking which version of WMP you are using.

We are running Win2kPro with Firefox, Opera and IE6. All of these
browsers download and run the files.

Sorry you can't see them, but we have checked in as many formats as
possible before uploading them.

Peter


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Mar  9 05:31:38 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:31:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Oilfield Engine in the Wild and on the Lease
References: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <002801c881e1$8660e1a0$3feb4c0c@D48VHZ61>

Great reading, thanks for sharing! Would have made a great article for GEM.

John Hall

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From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old_Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:16 PM
Subject: [SEL] Oilfield Engine in the Wild and on the Lease


> AND it's for sale on eBay!!  8-))
> The description is pretty interesing historically.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220208059273
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>
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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar  9 06:52:38 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:52:38 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>

Hello Peter,
	They download fine both directly to the video player and to my desktop. 
The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with an XP 
platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that 
comes with "youtube".

Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
> 
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
> 
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen format:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi
> 
> We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
> I'll get some more done today.
> 
> Peter

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Mar  9 09:06:43 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:06:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media Player.  I'm running a fully current version of Windoze XP, home version and have just checked the updates.......nada.

Do you think Billy Gates is trying to get me to downgrade to Vista?    :-)

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> Listerdiesel
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 01:49 AM
> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine
> Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> 
> 
> I've given up on getting anything decent in the 
> way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the 
> video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
> 
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there 
> and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
> 
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the 
> camera is wide-screen format:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Port
land18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 07:36:55 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:36:55 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>         They download fine both directly to the video player and to my desktop.
>  The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with an XP
>  platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that
>  comes with "youtube".
>
>  Rupert
>

YouTube would have been 'easier' for folks to access, but it
absolutely slaughters the pictures, and despite various trials of
formats, I couldn't get anything to work well enough for me. I like to
see what's going on, not a big blur of coloured squares!

XP does come with all popular codecs I am told, so those on XP should be fine.

I think that is most of the videos, I'll go back to the originals now
and see if I missed anything. Was Dave's Austral in one of them? I
know I took a shot or two of that.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 08:14:56 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:14:56 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090814g2517b3f7r4c2b0ba65c8a60a6@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Peter:
>
>  I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media Player.  I'm running a fully current version of Windoze XP, home version and have just checked the updates.......nada.
>
>  Do you think Billy Gates is trying to get me to downgrade to Vista?    :-)
>
>  Take care - Elden

Take a look at the link I posted for more codec information, Elden,
and you could also try the WMV format file that I posted info about
just now.

Let me know if you still have trouble please, as a last resort I'll
convert them all to WMV format, although generally most people seem to
be getting them downloaded OK now.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Mar  9 09:38:25 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:38:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090814g2517b3f7r4c2b0ba65c8a60a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

I'll go take a look.  I have no trouble with .WMV files.

I did see a suggestion in Windoze Help:

"The solution is to use REGEDIT and navigate to 
My Computer\HKey_Classes_root\Media Type\Extensions\ 
and Delete extension .AVI 
which points to the source filter that does not extist."

I'm gonnma do it right now.  If youall never hear from me again, you'll know that the matter/antimatter reactor in my PeeCee has just ahhihilated itself and me with it.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> Listerdiesel
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:15 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> 
> 
> On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> > Peter:
> >
> >  I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media 
> Player.  I'm running a fully current version of 
> Windoze XP, home version and have just checked 
> the updates.......nada.
> >
> >  Do you think Billy Gates is trying to get me 
> to downgrade to Vista?    :-)
> >
> >  Take care - Elden
> 
> Take a look at the link I posted for more codec 
> information, Elden,
> and you could also try the WMV format file that I 
> posted info about
> just now.
> 
> Let me know if you still have trouble please, as 
> a last resort I'll
> convert them all to WMV format, although 
> generally most people seem to
> be getting them downloaded OK now.
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk




From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Mar  9 09:46:58 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:46:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elden DuRand [mailto:edurand at mchsi.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:45 AM
> To: Elden DuRand
> Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> 
> 
> Peter:
> 
> Tried the suggestion below.  There is no media 
> type .AVI in my register.  Big help that was!
> 
> I may try to fiddle with it some more in the future.
> 
> Take care - Elden 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elden DuRand [mailto:edurand at mchsi.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:38 AM
> > To: The SEL email discussion list
> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
> > 
> > 
> > Peter:
> > 
> > I'll go take a look.  I have no trouble with .WMV files.
> > 
> > I did see a suggestion in Windoze Help:
> > 
> > "The solution is to use REGEDIT and navigate to 
> > My Computer\HKey_Classes_root\Media Type\Extensions\ 
> > and Delete extension .AVI 
> > which points to the source filter that does not extist."
> > 
> > I'm gonnma do it right now.  If youall never hear 
> > from me again, you'll know that the 
> > matter/antimatter reactor in my PeeCee has just 
> > ahhihilated itself and me with it.
> > 
> > Take care - Elden




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 09:05:05 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:05:05 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090905p2104390dgd9010130b8cd8978@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Elden DuRand [mailto:edurand at mchsi.com]
>  > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:45 AM
>  > To: Elden DuRand
>  > Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
>  >
>  >
>  > Peter:
>  >
>  > Tried the suggestion below.  There is no media
>  > type .AVI in my register.  Big help that was!
>  >
>  > I may try to fiddle with it some more in the future.
>
> >
>  > Take care - Elden

Hold fire for a while, I am just processing all the files into .wmv
format. It takes a while, plus I have to upload them to the two sites,
but give it an hour and they should all be available on BOTH file
formats.

I'll take the .avi files off both sites after 24 hours.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 09:17:46 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:17:46 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <6f6025160803090814g2517b3f7r4c2b0ba65c8a60a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803090917h5fae5f86oe279eb6b592ace2c@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Peter:
>
>  I'll go take a look.  I have no trouble with .WMV files.
>

The files are loading into stationary-engine.co.uk FIRST, starting
with Portland22 and going down in number.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar  9 09:32:13 2008
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:32:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004401c88203$221abeb0$210110ac@FAMILY>

Peter they look great, do they continuously loop around? As I was watching 
the first one it appeared to be showing the same video over and over or was 
it just me. BUT, great, nice to have real video of Portland rather than just 
pictures. Thanks for doing this for all of us.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Stationary-Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:48 AM
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips


> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
>
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
>
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen 
> format:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi
>
> We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
> I'll get some more done today.
>
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar  9 09:32:14 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:32:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] WMP troubles: was Re:  Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <47D4110E.2030804@xplornet.com>

Hi Guy,
	It is possible Windows media player is configured not to play *.avi 
files as I don't think it is a default setting. To change, open windows 
player, go to Tools/options and select file types. Check to see if the 
line for *.avi files has a check mark in the box. It should be checked.

Rupert

--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 10:11:18 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:11:18 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <004401c88203$221abeb0$210110ac@FAMILY>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<004401c88203$221abeb0$210110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803091011hcaaf945g4591951c2a05e3ce@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Paul Maples <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Peter they look great, do they continuously loop around? As I was watching
>  the first one it appeared to be showing the same video over and over or was
>  it just me. BUT, great, nice to have real video of Portland rather than just
>  pictures. Thanks for doing this for all of us.
>
>
>  Paul

These are all clips from the original footage, and in the process we
did play around with different bits and pieces to make up something
interesting for everyone.

The .wmv files are all loaded onto stationary-engine.co.uk now, the
oldengine ones are about 25 minutes behind.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun Mar  9 10:26:14 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:26:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Attn: [Dolly] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEKDGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <AAF1253B-7FEC-410D-B17D-589EF453D939@rustyiron.com>


> I, too, am having trouble with Windoze Media Player.
> I'm running a fully current version of Windoze XP,
> home version and have just checked the updates.......nada.



See?  I'm exhibiting discretion.  This is VERY difficult.

Rob







From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun Mar  9 10:35:49 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:35:49 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090905p2104390dgd9010130b8cd8978@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEKEGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKFGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<6f6025160803090905p2104390dgd9010130b8cd8978@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D383FF7-3759-4C75-8368-316FF61208DC@rustyiron.com>


On Mar 9, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Listerdiesel wrote:
>
> Hold fire for a while, I am just processing all the files into .wmv
> format. It takes a while, plus I have to upload them to the two sites,
> but give it an hour and they should all be available on BOTH file
> formats.

Hey Peter,
I put videos onto the web page using Flash.  It's as universally  
acceptable as you can get.  By hosting it yourself, you don't have to  
worry about the quality limitations imposed by YouTube.

So why not provide AVI, WMV, and Flash?  Oh, and what about MOV files  
for those of us who represent 7.5% of web traffic?  Oh, wait, we can  
watch ALL those formats already.

Let me close with the following parable that might help you in  
designing your web page:

An old man and a young boy were traveling through their village with  
their donkey. The boy rode on the donkey and the old man walked.

As they went along they passed some people who remarked it was a shame  
the old man was walking and the boy was riding.

The man and boy thought maybe the critics were right, so they changed  
positions.

Later, they passed some people that remarked, "What a shame, he makes  
that little boy walk." They then decided they both would walk.

Soon they passed some more people who thought they were stupid to walk  
when they had a decent donkey to ride. So, they both rode the donkey.

Now they passed some people that shamed them by saying, "How awful to  
put such a load on a poor donkey."

The boy and man said they were probably right, so they decided to  
carry the donkey.

As they crossed the bridge, they lost their grip on the animal and he  
fell into the river and drowned.



Party on, Garth!









From kimmell at verizon.net  Sun Mar  9 10:01:59 2008
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:01:59 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>

Peter,
I watched your .avi clips and honestly I don't think they were any 
clearer than most of the stuff I've put up on YouTube.  I personally 
like YouTube because their compression makes even the biggest files 
download relatively quickly.  Whereas it took me about 2 minutes to 
download the .avi files.

I put a few videos of my own on YouTube in .mov format (that's the 
format my particular digital camera saves them in).  I don't know if 
the .mov format has anything to do with them being clearer, but I've 
never had any complaints with the way my stuff turns out on YouTube: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjOo4NYSzh4

-Tony


At 01:48 AM 3/9/2008, Listerdiesel wrote:
>I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
>YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
>at Portland last summer.




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 11:03:04 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:03:04 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205078402.24299.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309193814.00bb5c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 09/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:41:27 -0000
>From: "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
>
>Hi Jerry
>Jim's got a 6HP Atomic.  Sorry, the only pic I've put online is here
>http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/jimstoys3.htm
>As to missing parts, guaranteed one of them will be the injector (nozzle),
>which is as rare as rocking horse poo studded with hens teeth.  However,
>there are similar ones about which will make the engine pop and bang as
>required!
>Talk to Paul Evans of Internal Fire http://www.internalfire.com/
>Look forward to seeing pics!
>Regards,
>Dolly & Jim

Hi Dolly & Jim,
         Thanks for the reply - when I googled "Petter Atomic" yours was 
one of the first to come up. (Well Done "The Webmistress" :-)) Advanced 
search (in those results) for 15 hp only found about 3 results and none 
relevant.

         Neville also has a 6HP (unrestored) and has already stripped a few 
parts from it for comparison and will be able make (or modify) some of the 
parts using those from the 6 HP for reference.

         On "Jim's List" Roland Craven replied:
"The 15hp is an uprated version of the 12hp with practically no parts in 
common with any other size. the 12-15 is also far from common so parts may 
be a big issue.."

         I do not think that Neville is too concerned with "availability of 
parts" - more a case of being able to see what they look like and do so 
that he can copy and make them.  We have a saying in South Africa (in 
Afrikaans - our other language) "'n Boer Maak 'n Plan" - direct translation 
is " A Farmer makes a plan".

         I've not seen the engine yet and am still waiting for Neville to 
give me a list of what he needs but if an injector is one of the missing 
"bits" I do not see that as a big problem.

         I learnt a lot about diesel injectors (from these lists) a few 
weeks ago when looking for one for my 12 HP Witte CD Diesel. Thanks all.

         I'll get some pics soon but, as I mentioned, he got this one in 
boxes so the pics will not be much until it starts going together again.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 13:44:58 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:44:58 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309193814.00bb5c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309193814.00bb5c80@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803091344hbb3c73q380c47e3331957bb@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/03/2008, Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:
>
>          I've not seen the engine yet and am still waiting for Neville to
>  give me a list of what he needs but if an injector is one of the missing
>  "bits" I do not see that as a big problem.
>

There speaks an optimist!

We searched high and low for one for Jim's Atomic, but couldn't get a
sniff of an injector or a nozzle for it.

We did have some success with cleaning the nozzle out though, it took
a few months of solvents and ultrasonic cleaning to dislodge the crud
inside the spray holes.

We still look out for those particular nozzles, but have yet to find
anything close.

We did pick up some bodies and nozzles for a Glenniffer marine engine
the other day....

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From alharris44 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 13:51:58 2008
From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:51:58 +1100
Subject: [SEL] FLV format: was  Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>

Everybody,

IMHO wmv & flv files are primarily for "real time/streaming" 
viewing and are designed accordingly (speed, size), therefore 
they do not have the same bells and whistles as "quality" 
based formats (xvid, mov, avi [most wrappers] etc).

I have found that a combination of two reprocessors (below) 
that I use, give me good quality image and smaller file size 
from my cameras (Kodak/Pentax).

Super.exe (from eRightSoft)

> http://www.erightsoft.com/home.html

VirtualDubMod.exe

> http://files.filefront.com/VirtualDubModexe/;8399394;/fileinfo.html

And here's a standalone FLV Player if someone wants one.

> http://files.filefront.com/flvplayerexe/;9159129;/fileinfo.html

Cheers,
Al Harris


Tony & Jackie wrote:
> Peter,
> I watched your .avi clips and honestly I don't think they were any 
> clearer than most of the stuff I've put up on YouTube.  I personally 
> like YouTube because their compression makes even the biggest files 
> download relatively quickly.  Whereas it took me about 2 minutes to 
> download the .avi files.
> 
> I put a few videos of my own on YouTube in .mov format (that's the 
> format my particular digital camera saves them in).  I don't know if 
> the .mov format has anything to do with them being clearer, but I've 
> never had any complaints with the way my stuff turns out on YouTube: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjOo4NYSzh4
> 
> -Tony
> 
> 
> At 01:48 AM 3/9/2008, Listerdiesel wrote:
>> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
>> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
>> at Portland last summer.
> 
> 
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 11:15:13 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:15:13 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205078402.24299.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309200953.00bb8ec0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>Message: 12
>Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:52:38 -0600
>From: Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
>
>Hello Peter,
>         They download fine <snip>

>  It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that
>comes with "youtube".
>Rupert

Rupert,
         You are so right there - I feel the same way about all the free 
"webshots" sites. (They're just a bunch of bandwidth thieves.).
         Long live "oldengine.org"
          



From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar  9 18:01:54 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:01:54 -0600
Subject: [SEL] steam engine powered generator
In-Reply-To: <47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
	<47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D48882.8020608@xplornet.com>

Hello Rick,
	Is this similar to yours <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fykeQNVadYk>?

Rupert

--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 11:10:37 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:10:37 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Petter Atomic 15 H.P
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205078402.24299.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309200357.00bb8e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 09/03/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:00:16 +0800
>From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Petter Atomic 15 H.P.
>
>Jerry.......My friend just around the corner has one and it is a ''Big
>Bastard'' used to drive the Ammonia compressor at a meat works .It is not a
>runner but it is all there and I can get whatever pics you want.......not
>sure about the HP but will check.

Hi Peter,
         Thanks for the reply.
         That would be very helpful but before going to the trouble of 
taking pics, could you find out the size (HP).
                 As mentioned in my previous post - I'm still waiting for 
Neville to tell me what he needs and I'll get back to you then (probably a 
few days).
         Many thanks.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From edward.tabor at zoominternet.net  Sun Mar  9 18:22:34 2008
From: edward.tabor at zoominternet.net (Edward Tabor)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:22:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com><DFA40463-1C67-4C5B-B7C8-F77D3564E970@alltel.net>
	<47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <F57227572BA647A68A3A2C38B7B7A7B6@EdToshiba2>

Have you found somebody?  I'm going to Annapolis this week.  My number is 
443-309-2877.  If something needs transported I could arrange to get it to 
Coolspring.  (Believe Paul Gray attends.)

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?


> Thanks Mike!
>
> Tommy Turner
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Tucker wrote:
>
>>Tommy,
>>
>>I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom 
>>(gallowayengine at comcast.net
>>) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from
>>Annapolis.
>>
>>See ya',
>>Mike
>>
>>On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>>>the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>______________________
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>>oldironnut at alltel.net
>>Versailles, Kentucky, USA
>>______________________
>>
>>
>>
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From garyepps at fidnet.com  Sun Mar  9 18:34:37 2008
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:34:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>

Peter,
I haven't read through all of this thread, but I am using XP Pro and all 
I got was the light show.

Gary

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 09/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hello Peter,
>>         They download fine both directly to the video player and to my desktop.
>>  The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with an XP
>>  platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert that
>>  comes with "youtube".
>>
>>  Rupert
>>
>>     
>
> YouTube would have been 'easier' for folks to access, but it
> absolutely slaughters the pictures, and despite various trials of
> formats, I couldn't get anything to work well enough for me. I like to
> see what's going on, not a big blur of coloured squares!
>
> XP does come with all popular codecs I am told, so those on XP should be fine.
>
> I think that is most of the videos, I'll go back to the originals now
> and see if I missed anything. Was Dave's Austral in one of them? I
> know I took a shot or two of that.
>
> Peter
>   


From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sun Mar  9 18:54:26 2008
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:54:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com><6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>
Message-ID: <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>

I also got the light show - audio but no video. 


Bob Willman
Bowling Green, Ohio
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Gary Epps
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:35 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips

Peter,
I haven't read through all of this thread, but I am using XP Pro and all I
got was the light show.

Gary

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 09/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hello Peter,
>>         They download fine both directly to the video player and to my
desktop.
>>  The files opened and played fine with WMP, ATI and Realplayer with 
>> an XP  platform. It sure a joy not to have to download all the advert 
>> that  comes with "youtube".
>>
>>  Rupert
>>
>>     
>
> YouTube would have been 'easier' for folks to access, but it 
> absolutely slaughters the pictures, and despite various trials of 
> formats, I couldn't get anything to work well enough for me. I like to 
> see what's going on, not a big blur of coloured squares!
>
> XP does come with all popular codecs I am told, so those on XP should be
fine.
>
> I think that is most of the videos, I'll go back to the originals now 
> and see if I missed anything. Was Dave's Austral in one of them? I 
> know I took a shot or two of that.
>
> Peter
>   
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Mar  9 19:10:53 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:10:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] steam engine powered generator
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net><47D44DEE.1050102@gmail.com>
	<47D48882.8020608@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV46D7EEA87D842766717A7BB0E0@phx.gbl>

yes it is Rupert.  Down for now but should be up and running soon.  Have not 
loaded the engine down yet and should be fun to watch when we do.  Our 
engine and boiler look just a tad bigger.

Regards,
Rick




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: [SEL] steam engine powered generator


> Hello Rick,
> Is this similar to yours <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fykeQNVadYk>?
>
> Rupert
>
> --
> yvt
>
> Rupert Wenig
> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>
> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
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From fsouthwell at googlemail.com  Sun Mar  9 01:29:06 2008
From: fsouthwell at googlemail.com (Fred Southwell)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 09:29:06 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bd33b2e0803090129t3f22269wc007fe4124c98761@mail.gmail.com>

Look good to me Peter. If you hadn't said about them being squeezed I
wouldn't have noticed.

Fred

On 09/03/2008, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
> YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
> at Portland last summer.
>
> As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
> feedback as to how they come out.
>
> The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen
> format:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi
>
> We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
> I'll get some more done today.
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Sun Mar  9 11:19:34 2008
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:19:34 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
Message-ID: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi all,
I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in 
restoring old engines, so that's close.

I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging 
home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80 
gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I 
realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my 
garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for 
this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this 
3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about 
the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably 
need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be 
swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the 
information on the motor tag:

Frame- 184T
Horsepower- 5
Volts- 208-230/460
Amps- 14.8-14/7
RPM- 1725
NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
PF- 80%

I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a 
complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not 
need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so 
I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon 
single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the 
whole compressor if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Mar  9 20:36:20 2008
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:36:20 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <000401c8825f$e888c2c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>

Hi Tony,

Curt Holland had a very nice write up on making a single 
phase to three phase converter.  I took a look at his 
website and couldn
find it so maybe he can point you in the right direction.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, California U.S.A.
replace nomore with net to send mail
jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors


Hi all,
I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools 
used in
restoring old engines, so that's close.

I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up 
dragging
home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 
2-stage, 80
gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded 
it that I
realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in 
my
garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would 
work for
this application, I would be interested in buying or trading 
for this
3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know 
much about
the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd 
probably
need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase 
motor I'd be
swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of 
the
information on the motor tag:

Frame- 184T
Horsepower- 5
Volts- 208-230/460
Amps- 14.8-14/7
RPM- 1725
NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
PF- 80%

I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit 
for a
complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade. 
I do not
need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal 
on it, so
I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 
gallon
single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor 
or the
whole compressor if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL

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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Mar  9 23:14:15 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:14:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <000401c8825f$e888c2c0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>


---- JIM KIRKES <jd.kirkes at verizon.net> wrote: 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Curt Holland had a very nice write up on making a single 
> phase to three phase converter.  I took a look at his 
> website and couldn
> find it so maybe he can point you in the right direction.
> 

> I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up 
> dragging
> home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 
> 2-stage, 80
> gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded 
> it that I
> realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in 
> my
> garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would 
> work for
> this application, I would be interested in buying or trading 
> for this
> 3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know 
> much about
> the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd 
> probably
> need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase 
> motor I'd be
> swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of 
> the
> information on the motor tag:
> 
> Frame- 184T
> Horsepower- 5
> Volts- 208-230/460
> Amps- 14.8-14/7
> RPM- 1725
> NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
> Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
> PF- 80%
> 
> I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit 
> for a
> complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade. 
> I do not
> need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal 
> on it, so
> I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 
> gallon
> single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor 
> or the
> whole compressor if anyone is interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
Tony, a convertor is not usually suited to a compressor. Arotary convertor would require at least a 7.5hp idler motor, thiw would have to run all the while the compressor is being used. A static convertor reduces the ouput of the 3 phase motor so it wouldn't run the compressor, on a mill or lathe you seldom need the full hp, a compressor does. Since you don't need the full ouput of this compressor I would look for a 3hp moptor and a smaller drive pulley. A 5hp single phase should work in place of the 3 phase with the same pulley, hp is hp. It will pull more amps on the 2 legs, but the total will be close to the 3 phase on three legs. The smaller motor should be cheaper and easier to find, the smaller pulley will reduce the load on the motor, you will have to check the amps under load to be sure it's not overloaded. Ssmaller pulley =l reduced load, lower amperage,  compressor turning slower, reduced output. Single phase motors are usually harder to find used, most people can't use 3 phase at home.
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 00:23:25 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:23:25 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com> <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Bob Willman <blcksmth at wcnet.org> wrote:
> I also got the light show - audio but no video.
>
>
>
>  Bob Willman

Bob & Gary:

Did you try the later .wmv files instead of the .avi ones?

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From plb at iinet.net.au  Mon Mar 10 02:51:26 2008
From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:51:26 +0900
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>

The only problem I had downloading was it was slow. It came in at 25 kb/sec
and my connection is good for 230. The video quality was far superior to
Youtube.
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2008 4:49 PM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips

I've given up on getting anything decent in the way of resolution with
YouTube, and have set up a new folder for the video clips that we took
at Portland last summer.

As a trial, the two following clips are on there and I'd like some
feedback as to how they come out.

The display is slightly squeezed sideways as the camera is wide-screen
format:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland18.avi
http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Videoclips/Portland19.avi

We have 20 or so clips to process and put up, if these are OK then
I'll get some more done today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 03:48:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:48:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Ray And Erica Freeman <plb at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> The only problem I had downloading was it was slow. It came in at 25 kb/sec
>  and my connection is good for 230. The video quality was far superior to
>  Youtube.
>  Ray Freeman
>  Perth WA

Which server did you use, Ray?

You're almost halfway between the two, but I'd be interested to see
how they compare.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 04:17:37 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:17:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100417y2e4a6120r534628ef9a369925@mail.gmail.com>

The .avi files have been removed this morning.

File # 4, 5, 8 and 9 have been added, so the complete list is:

Portland4.wmv to Portland5.wmv

and

Portland9.wmv  through Portland25.wmv inclusive.

Portland9 is the 100hp Fairbanks-Morse complete start-up sequence from
the operator's end of the engine, but it is quite long.

Peter
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From nancydick at pennswoods.net  Mon Mar 10 04:31:42 2008
From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:31:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <20080310113144.4E753229CDE@md5.pennswoods.net>

Tony harbor freight had a 6 hp motor on sale last week for $189.99.
Have one on the shelf just in case
R Fink
PA




At 12:19 PM 3/9/2008 -0600, you wrote:

>Hi all,
>I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in
>restoring old engines, so that's close.
>
>I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging
>home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80
>gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I
>realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my
>garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for
>this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this
>3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about
>the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably
>need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be
>swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the
>information on the motor tag:
>
>Frame- 184T
>Horsepower- 5
>Volts- 208-230/460
>Amps- 14.8-14/7
>RPM- 1725
>NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
>Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
>PF- 80%
>
>I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a
>complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not
>need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so
>I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon
>single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the
>whole compressor if anyone is interested.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>Tony Kimmell
>Bloomington, IL
>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Mar 10 07:19:14 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:19:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <20080310113144.4E753229CDE@md5.pennswoods.net>
References: <0JXH00D516TA59K3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
	<20080310113144.4E753229CDE@md5.pennswoods.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080310091354.02f7a250@pop3.wcoil.com>

This motor is not suitable to replace the motor he has or he needs. The 
motor he needs is going to be in the $300-$400- price range. No exceptions 
unless its a cheap China motor. Because in reality the 5 hp motor he needs 
produces more HP then the 6 hp sold thru Harbor 
freight.               TTYL,  Mark

At 06:31 AM 3/10/08, you wrote:
>Tony harbor freight had a 6 hp motor on sale last week for $189.99.
>Have one on the shelf just in case
>R Fink
>PA
>
>
>
>
>At 12:19 PM 3/9/2008 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in
> >restoring old engines, so that's close.
> >
> >I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging
> >home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80
> >gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I
> >realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my
> >garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for
> >this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this
> >3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about
> >the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably
> >need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be
> >swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the
> >information on the motor tag:
> >
> >Frame- 184T
> >Horsepower- 5
> >Volts- 208-230/460
> >Amps- 14.8-14/7
> >RPM- 1725
> >NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
> >Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
> >PF- 80%
> >
> >I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a
> >complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not
> >need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so
> >I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon
> >single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the
> >whole compressor if anyone is interested.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--
> >Tony Kimmell
> >Bloomington, IL
> >
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Parts lists available on request.

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No Sunday calls if possible.
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them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 10 07:29:21 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:29:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JXH00LAN2OHHV54@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <00a701c882bb$2995d680$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

If you want to grab YouTube vids before they disappear , and they WILL ! 
KeepVid.Com  works real  well . 
Chuck 


From garyepps at fidnet.com  Mon Mar 10 07:46:06 2008
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:46:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com>
	<000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
	<6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D549AE.30101@fidnet.com>

The .wmv file I downloaded played very well with great clarity.  The 
quality of the video was excellent.  I downloaded only one and will wait 
to view the others when I have more time.  I'm on a very slow dial-up.  
I'm a little over 1000 feet too far from the phone co. to get DSL.  I 
really like where I live, but this is one price I pay, the other is it's 
several miles to anyplace I go to from here.  The town I attend church 
in is only16 miles away by air, but is 50 miles by road.

Today we are going to Springfield, MO to do some shopping and I expect 
to put a minimum of 225 miles on the car.

Gary

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 10/03/2008, Bob Willman <blcksmth at wcnet.org> wrote:
>   
>> I also got the light show - audio but no video.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Bob Willman
>>     
>
> Bob & Gary:
>
> Did you try the later .wmv files instead of the .avi ones?
>
> Peter
>   


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 08:27:25 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:27:25 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <47D549AE.30101@fidnet.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D3EBA6.8010805@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803090736i6ee09d14yc0dda11e38343d6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D4902D.1010309@fidnet.com> <000101c88251$ae53d2b0$3464a8c0@Eagle>
	<6f6025160803100023w165229afw8329ace8c6d8a59e@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D549AE.30101@fidnet.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803100827m4a57af6u69ab17d35e69e0aa@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Gary Epps <garyepps at fidnet.com> wrote:
> The .wmv file I downloaded played very well with great clarity.  The
>  quality of the video was excellent.  I downloaded only one and will wait
>  to view the others when I have more time.  I'm on a very slow dial-up.
>  I'm a little over 1000 feet too far from the phone co. to get DSL.  I
>  really like where I live, but this is one price I pay, the other is it's
>  several miles to anyplace I go to from here.  The town I attend church
>  in is only16 miles away by air, but is 50 miles by road.
>
>  Today we are going to Springfield, MO to do some shopping and I expect
>  to put a minimum of 225 miles on the car.
>
>
>  Gary

I'll bring some CD's to Portland with the files on....

Peter
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 10 08:42:30 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:42:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [Help moving old Iron
In-Reply-To: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <1204996569.47d2c9d9affb4@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W42ACBF29F82C1E4A7931A9950E0@phx.gbl>


> Is anyone  in the vicinity of San Antonio Texas coming to Portland Swap Meet, Cool Springs or Portland Show, that could haul a small 2hp tank cooled engine only, (no cart, or cooling tank)? I would gladly cover gas expenses or work out some freight. Or coming through western North Carolina? I would appreciate any help getting my rusty Iron closer to home. Thanks Steve Royster 
_________________________________________________________________
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 10 12:06:43 2008
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:06:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>

I have a similar opportunity and am thinking of using a gas engine with an 
electric clutch.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jbcast at charter.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors


>
> ---- JIM KIRKES <jd.kirkes at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Curt Holland had a very nice write up on making a single
>> phase to three phase converter.  I took a look at his
>> website and couldn
>> find it so maybe he can point you in the right direction.
>>
>
>> I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up
>> dragging
>> home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis
>> 2-stage, 80
>> gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded
>> it that I
>> realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in
>> my
>> garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would
>> work for
>> this application, I would be interested in buying or trading
>> for this
>> 3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know
>> much about
>> the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd
>> probably
>> need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase
>> motor I'd be
>> swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of
>> the
>> information on the motor tag:
>>
>> Frame- 184T
>> Horsepower- 5
>> Volts- 208-230/460
>> Amps- 14.8-14/7
>> RPM- 1725
>> NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
>> Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
>> PF- 80%
>>
>> I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit
>> for a
>> complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.
>> I do not
>> need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal
>> on it, so
>> I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60
>> gallon
>> single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor
>> or the
>> whole compressor if anyone is interested.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Tony Kimmell
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
> Tony, a convertor is not usually suited to a compressor. Arotary convertor 
> would require at least a 7.5hp idler motor, thiw would have to run all the 
> while the compressor is being used. A static convertor reduces the ouput 
> of the 3 phase motor so it wouldn't run the compressor, on a mill or lathe 
> you seldom need the full hp, a compressor does. Since you don't need the 
> full ouput of this compressor I would look for a 3hp moptor and a smaller 
> drive pulley. A 5hp single phase should work in place of the 3 phase with 
> the same pulley, hp is hp. It will pull more amps on the 2 legs, but the 
> total will be close to the 3 phase on three legs. The smaller motor should 
> be cheaper and easier to find, the smaller pulley will reduce the load on 
> the motor, you will have to check the amps under load to be sure it's not 
> overloaded. Ssmaller pulley =l reduced load, lower amperage,  compressor 
> turning slower, reduced output. Single phase motors are usually harder to 
> find used, most people can'!
> t use 3 phase at home.
> J.B. Castagnos
> Belle Rose, LA
>
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From endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 10 16:11:20 2008
From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:11:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57298.52191.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello Again,
    Since you've dropped te AVI's in Favor of WMV's it's a Moot point anyway. My Suspicion is
  they simply weren't being encoded properly on the server. As Same file crashed MP2 MP6 MP7 MP9 WinAmp's Video Nero's Video player.  Under the following OS's Win98SE XP-Pro Windows 2000 Pro  Windows 2000Pro Server And Windows 2003 Pro Server. 
  ( I am a computer repair technician) 
   
    The WMV's on the other hand are playing Perfectly on ALL players I use !  
  What prompted you to change format ? (Just out of curiosity.) 
   
    You might consider making Video's like these everywhere you go. And Offer them on CD
  to the members of the list who don't have Broadband. I Noticed a few posts as to Download time issues. This might be a good solution. And a Nice way to preserve these meets for those who aren't able to attend.
   
     Nice Work. Looking forward to seeing the rest of them this evening.

Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
  On 09/03/2008, S. Work wrote:
> Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.
>

They all open and run correctly in Windows Media Player.

They were all checked for running before we uploaded them, might be
worth checking which version of WMP you are using.

We are running Win2kPro with Firefox, Opera and IE6. All of these
browsers download and run the files.

Sorry you can't see them, but we have checked in as many formats as
possible before uploading them.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 13:29:57 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:29:57 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, Ed stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have a similar opportunity and am thinking of using a gas engine with an
>  electric clutch.
>
>  Ed

One of the problems in changing over to a single-phase motor is the
much heavier starting current required, especially when starting
against pressure in the tank. A start/run motor with a separate
starting winding might be too heavy on current for a domestic supply.

The phase changer using a 3-phase motor and capacitors is a good way
to go, and is invariably cheaper than buying a new single-phase motor,
assuming you can get one the right size and mounting.

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
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http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 10 18:09:06 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:09:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [Help moving old Iron
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W42ACBF29F82C1E4A7931A9950E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080310210906.Q76K6.264842.root@fepweb15>



> > Is anyone  in the vicinity of San Antonio Texas coming to Portland Swap Meet, Cool Springs or Portland Show, that could haul a small 2hp tank cooled engine only, (no cart, or cooling tank)? I would gladly cover gas expenses or work out some freight. Or coming through western North Carolina? I would appreciate any help getting my rusty Iron closer to home. Thanks Steve Royster 

Steve, some of the guys are going to Coolspring if you can get it a ride to Louisiana
, I'm not making the trip but I'll ask them for you.
J.B. Castagnos
Donaldsonville, LA


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Mar 10 18:39:31 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:39:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Peter,

Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader to
avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised that
"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.

See ya,  Anrie

Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:

> One of the problems in changing over to a single-phase motor is the
> much heavier starting current required, especially when starting
> against pressure in the tank. 


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Mar  9 13:53:06 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:53:06 +0200
Subject: [SEL] More Video.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Following Peter Forbes' Portland video uploads and the resultant 
discussion on the lists I was prompted to "get off my butt" and play with 
some video again. I've been meaning to do this for some time - just needed 
a nudge!

         I've uploaded a video of my 6 H.P. Wolseley Type "R" (1928) 
running this evening.
43 seconds -320 x 240 pixels - 2.7 Mbytes.  It's a .wmv file and should 
play on Windoze Media Player.
         I'd be interested to know if anyone has a problem playing it 
(please mention what version of Windoze you are using as well a Windoze 
Media Player version.)

         I've added it to my page about the Wolseley - please scroll down 
to just before the picture links to find it. There is also some technical 
gobbledygook about how it was made.

<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 10 18:56:07 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:56:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001601c8831b$12d53f20$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

 Milton has them as a stock item , just walk into your local auto parts tore 
, specify your NPT size , and off ya go !

> Hi Peter,
>
> Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader 
> to
> avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised 
> that
> "modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
 



From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Mon Mar 10 18:59:15 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:59:15 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
Message-ID: <cd9.27248004.35074173@aol.com>

 
Hi Arnie,
 
The unloaders are available.  I have a compressor run by a 5 HP  Briggs.  The 
engine runs continually, with the unloader opening when tank  pressure is 
achieved.  What it doesn't have is an idler device.  Wish  it did.
Ron 
 
 
In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:41:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

Hi  Peter,

Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal  unloader to
avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm  really surprised 
that
"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the  same.

See ya,  Anrie


 



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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 10 19:12:05 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:12:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
	<6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>


>
> Which server did you use, Ray?
>
> You're almost halfway between the two, but I'd be interested to see
> how they compare.
>
> Peter

Good doG Peter, stop justifying your stupid assed choice and put the  
damned videos on yourtube so that everyone can enjoy them!
	Dave


From alharris44 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 19:16:07 2008
From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:16:07 +1100
Subject: [SEL] More Video.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <47D5EB67.6060907@gmail.com>

G'day Jerry,

Ran fine on WMP, MPlayer Classic and GMPlayer(GNU).

Looked good at 640x480 and sounded nice.

Couple of bugs at the end, but, what the heck. ;-)

Ta,
Al Harris

Jerry Evans wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>          Following Peter Forbes' Portland video uploads and the resultant 
> discussion on the lists I was prompted to "get off my butt" and play with 
> some video again. I've been meaning to do this for some time - just needed 
> a nudge!
> 
>          I've uploaded a video of my 6 H.P. Wolseley Type "R" (1928) 
> running this evening.
> 43 seconds -320 x 240 pixels - 2.7 Mbytes.  It's a .wmv file and should 
> play on Windoze Media Player.
>          I'd be interested to know if anyone has a problem playing it 
> (please mention what version of Windoze you are using as well a Windoze 
> Media Player version.)
> 
>          I've added it to my page about the Wolseley - please scroll down 
> to just before the picture links to find it. There is also some technical 
> gobbledygook about how it was made.
> 
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>
> 
> 
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
> 
> 
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon Mar 10 20:28:43 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:28:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBEEMGGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Arnie & Peter:

WW Grainger Company here in the Colonies carries an inline unloader if your compressor is not equipped with one.  It just splices into the line between the compressor and the tank.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> fero_ah at city-net.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 08:40 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured 
> a centrifugal unloader to
> avoid the "starting against tank pressure" 
> problem.  I'm really surprised that
> "modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
> 
> See ya,  Anrie
> 
> Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:
> 
> > One of the problems in changing over to a 
> single-phase motor is the
> > much heavier starting current required, 
> especially when starting
> > against pressure in the tank. 
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 14:50:40 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:50:40 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
Message-ID: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>

I have put together a menu that allows you to click on an image and be
taken to the video file, which will then run in Windows Media Player.

The three main browsers all treat this differently, so you'll have to
experiment with your own preferences to get the best out of it.

IE6 worked best for me, keeping the menu page in the background and
running the video on top in the foreground.

Opera and Firefox both dashed off to get the video file and then
returned to the menu page once ithey had enough code to stream the
video.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm
or
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm

Choose the website that is closest to you, it does make a big
difference on download times.

There is no icon on the main menus yet, so you'll have to bookmark the
links until I get time to update the menuing.

The lead image for each page has the file size on the image itself. If
there is more than one menu image for the video file then only the
first one will have the size.

Let me know if anyone has any problems please.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Mar 10 20:38:46 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:38:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <006401c88329$69b33870$726f4b47@mikecomp>

An idea "borrowed" from the Brunner Corp., a superior competitor.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors


> Hi Peter,
>
> Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader 
> to
> avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised 
> that
> "modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
>
> See ya,  Anrie
>
> Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:
>
>> One of the problems in changing over to a single-phase motor is the
>> much heavier starting current required, especially when starting
>> against pressure in the tank.
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 23:54:23 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:54:23 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au>
	<6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803102354q166a3713obf40e46e785b9706@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, David Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:
> Good doG Peter, stop justifying your stupid assed choice and put the
>  damned videos on yourtube so that everyone can enjoy them!
>         Dave

There are already some there, Dave, but unless your eyesight is so bad
that you cannot see anyway, you wouldn't want to look at them.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 01:40:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:40:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <57298.52191.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<57298.52191.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803110140n70170734g613a649196be8ca0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/03/2008, S. Work <endacomm10 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Again,
>     Since you've dropped te AVI's in Favor of WMV's it's a Moot point anyway. My Suspicion is
>   they simply weren't being encoded properly on the server. As Same file crashed MP2 MP6 MP7 MP9 WinAmp's Video Nero's Video player.  Under the following OS's Win98SE XP-Pro Windows 2000 Pro  Windows 2000Pro Server And Windows 2003 Pro Server.
>   ( I am a computer repair technician)
>
>     The WMV's on the other hand are playing Perfectly on ALL players I use !
>   What prompted you to change format ? (Just out of curiosity.)
>
>     You might consider making Video's like these everywhere you go. And Offer them on CD
>   to the members of the list who don't have Broadband. I Noticed a few posts as to Download time issues. This might be a good solution. And a Nice way to preserve these meets for those who aren't able to attend.
>
>      Nice Work. Looking forward to seeing the rest of them this evening.

I think that as so many folks did get the .avi files downloaded and
working, that a server problem is unlikely, but as you say, it's a
moot point now.

The change over to .wmv was made as it was obvious that it was causing
unexpected problems with the .avi format, and it was quite simple to
change the format and re-send the files to the two sites.

As I posted elsewhere, as I have the video editing software, and
DirectX9 loaded, I didn't 'see' any file format problems at my end.

If I get the time, I will chop out individual engine scenes and make
up some video 'quickies' featuring just one engine and one scene of 15
seconds or so run time.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 11 03:15:16 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:15:16 +1100
Subject: [SEL] IHC vertical famous info wanted please
Message-ID: <004c01c88360$cdcb4910$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi All
First of all, thanks to all those who have helped with my request for IHC 
2hp famous vertical info, it is greatly appreciated.

I have another request, can anyone supply me with good close-up photos of 
the pushrod, the clamp and the trip finger thingy that trips the ignitor, 
please.
And also possible measurements of the trip finger thingy !!! what is that 
part made of, is it spring steel or hardened steel?

Thanks in advance

Regards
Peter, Oz



From endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 03:15:37 2008
From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:15:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <929072.32624.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello Again,
    Sorry if I'm getting these a bit out of order, ..
   
     My Point was... (Upon review I realized I didn't include) With the Many Users all looking at the same time (Possibly) Your server may have dropped the first few frames of the file when (I) got them..  As the copy in my Cache didn't have a complete header block for AVI Files.. And I Suppose due to mental deteoration due to my 30+ Years of fighting with Internet Servers.  I Neglected to "Clear my Cache" between attempts. All that aside.. This thread is getting a bit too busy..  <Smile>  I'm just HAPPY that you take time to personally address everyone's comments !   <MAJOR KUDO'S> on your work.  
   
     On a Somewhat unrelated note, I Noticed somewhere in this thread. That you are hosting these yourself ? Or did I Mis read ?  My Pipe is only 6 Mbps down, and 768 Kbps Up...
     Is yours Similar ? If so might want to set a Max Connects limit.
   
    Sorry, got stuck in RT Mode...  Feel free to drop me an E-Mail  (Off List) If I can be of any service.  Endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Will reach me almost instantly.
   
  

Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
  On 09/03/2008, S. Work wrote:
> Sorry Guy, But the AVI's crash Every one of my movie players. Might want to try re-doing them.
>

They all open and run correctly in Windows Media Player.

They were all checked for running before we uploaded them, might be
worth checking which version of WMP you are using.

We are running Win2kPro with Firefox, Opera and IE6. All of these
browsers download and run the files.

Sorry you can't see them, but we have checked in as many formats as
possible before uploading them.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 04:49:39 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:49:39 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
In-Reply-To: <929072.32624.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <6f6025160803090408m116fc3f6vfd7fa9e5954936cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<929072.32624.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803110449s2f671c88u38a208fd061e3784@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, S. Work <endacomm10 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Again,
>     Sorry if I'm getting these a bit out of order, ..
>
>      My Point was... (Upon review I realized I didn't include) With the Many Users all looking at the same time (Possibly) Your server may have dropped the first few frames of the file when (I) got them..  As the copy in my Cache didn't have a complete header block for AVI Files.. And I Suppose due to mental deteoration due to my 30+ Years of fighting with Internet Servers.  I Neglected to "Clear my Cache" between attempts. All that aside.. This thread is getting a bit too busy..  <Smile>  I'm just HAPPY that you take time to personally address everyone's comments !   <MAJOR KUDO'S> on your work.
>
>      On a Somewhat unrelated note, I Noticed somewhere in this thread. That you are hosting these yourself ? Or did I Mis read ?  My Pipe is only 6 Mbps down, and 768 Kbps Up...
>      Is yours Similar ? If so might want to set a Max Connects limit.
>
>     Sorry, got stuck in RT Mode...  Feel free to drop me an E-Mail  (Off List) If I can be of any service.  Endacomm10 at yahoo.com  Will reach me almost instantly.
>

Happy to clear the misunderstanding up.

Oldengine.org is a free hosting website for engine nuts like us.

Stationary-engine.co.uk and Oldengine.co.uk are 'paid-for' sites that
we fund ourselves, it's about $150 a year, as long as we don't exceed
bandwidth and storage limits. The speed is particularly good though,
which is why we chose that location for it.

Our DSL varies, but is supposed to be 500k up and 8mb down, but like
most DSL it varies with how many are on the system. We are close to
the town and exchange so get a pretty good supply.

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Tue Mar 11 05:00:56 2008
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:00:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips
References: <6f6025160803082348x4430e9aavd8a90cfc5924ab@mail.gmail.com><001f01c88294$4ec3bac0$ec4b3040$@net.au><6f6025160803100348s52ff742s976b329d2defd6f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<2DB66543-40DD-4E14-BC4A-5B2B6F8DE933@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001001c8836f$91c64dc0$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

The area halfway between the two is called the 'taint.
Skip

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clips


>
>>
>> Which server did you use, Ray?
>>
>> You're almost halfway between the two, but I'd be interested to see
>> how they compare.
>>
>> Peter
>
> Good doG Peter, stop justifying your stupid assed choice and put the
> damned videos on yourtube so that everyone can enjoy them!
> Dave
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>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 06:22:08 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:22:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Arnie,
Some still do use centrifugal unloaders but they are the High end machines 
where a real 5 hp will cost you $2500- $3500.  Very few people on the list 
have ever actually seen a good high end machine in real life for sale on a 
sales floor. As a rule what you see on a sales floor today from Harbor 
Freight to the big box stores is a compromise for a real compressor. A lot 
of compromises made to deliver a compressor unit at a competative price in 
a very competative market.  Most of the time when you wonder why you don't 
see something, all you have to do is think money and thats where the answer 
usually lays.
  Two of the big names in cetrifugal unloaders was Curtis and Ingersol 
Rand. The Curtis is external mechanism and the Ingersol is internal.
  Top end Quincys are oil pressure unloaders. The Quincy system is a 
SWeeeeeeet unloader.
If you ever seen and heard a Quincy in operation the way they were intended 
you would simply fall in love. Yah just do not want to be moving  them 
around much, they are a brute of a machine, but oh so sweet.
                           TTYL,   Mark

At 08:39 PM 3/10/08, you wrote:
>Hi Peter,
>
>Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader to
>avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm really surprised that
>"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the same.
>
>See ya,  Anrie




From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 06:27:28 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:27:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <cd9.27248004.35074173@aol.com>
References: <cd9.27248004.35074173@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311082318.02f7a720@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Ron, That is not a centrifugal unloader thats pressure actuated.
If you want to install an idler device they are available. We keep them in 
stock. If your unloader has a tank pressure port that opens when the unit 
reaches pressure you install a air actuated cylinder with a throttle cable 
linked to the carburetor.                TTYL,  Mark

At 08:59 PM 3/10/08, you wrote:
>
>Hi Arnie,
>
>The unloaders are available.  I have a compressor run by a 5 HP  Briggs.  The
>engine runs continually, with the unloader opening when tank  pressure is
>achieved.  What it doesn't have is an idler device.  Wish  it did.
>Ron
>
>
>In a message dated 3/10/2008 7:41:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>fero_ah at city-net.com writes:
>
>Hi  Peter,
>
>Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal  unloader to
>avoid the "starting against tank pressure" problem.  I'm  really surprised
>that
>"modern" air compressors wouldn't do the  same.
>
>See ya,  Anrie
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From plb at iinet.net.au  Tue Mar 11 06:07:55 2008
From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:07:55 +0900
Subject: [SEL] FW:  Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
Message-ID: <007101c88378$ebd1f9a0$c375ece0$@net.au>



I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
with lesser quality on "yourtube"
Ray Freeman
Perth
WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 6:51 AM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu

I have put together a menu that allows you to click on an image and be
taken to the video file, which will then run in Windows Media Player.

The three main browsers all treat this differently, so you'll have to
experiment with your own preferences to get the best out of it.

IE6 worked best for me, keeping the menu page in the background and
running the video on top in the foreground.

Opera and Firefox both dashed off to get the video file and then
returned to the menu page once ithey had enough code to stream the
video.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm
or
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm

Choose the website that is closest to you, it does make a big
difference on download times.

There is no icon on the main menus yet, so you'll have to bookmark the
links until I get time to update the menuing.

The lead image for each page has the file size on the image itself. If
there is more than one menu image for the video file then only the
first one will have the size.

Let me know if anyone has any problems please.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 11 07:31:23 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] More Video.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080309223824.00bb5580@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEMMGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

The video came through just fine.  

I need to study your silencer some more with the Hoyt-Clagwell in mind.  What formula did you use to determine the size and number of holes in the tubes?

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 03:53 PM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] More Video.
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
>          Following Peter Forbes' Portland video 
> uploads and the resultant 
> discussion on the lists I was prompted to "get 
> off my butt" and play with 
> some video again. I've been meaning to do this 
> for some time - just needed 
> a nudge!
> 
>          I've uploaded a video of my 6 H.P. 
> Wolseley Type "R" (1928) 
> running this evening.
> 43 seconds -320 x 240 pixels - 2.7 Mbytes.  It's 
> a .wmv file and should 
> play on Windoze Media Player.
>          I'd be interested to know if anyone has 
> a problem playing it 
> (please mention what version of Windoze you are 
> using as well a Windoze 
> Media Player version.)
> 
>          I've added it to my page about the 
> Wolseley - please scroll down 
> to just before the picture links to find it. 
> There is also some technical 
> gobbledygook about how it was made.
> 
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/
index.htm>


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 07:09:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:09:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] FW: Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
In-Reply-To: <007101c88378$ebd1f9a0$c375ece0$@net.au>
References: <007101c88378$ebd1f9a0$c375ece0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803110709h30d5d250ye441a7ac01bab4b0@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, Ray And Erica Freeman <plb at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>  I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
>  as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
>  would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
>  with lesser quality on "yourtube"
>  Ray Freeman
>  Perth
>  WA
>

Glad they came through OK. Interesting that Oldengine was quicker than
Stationary-Engine, although the time of day may have had a bearing on
that.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From reinagcm at chibardun.net  Tue Mar 11 09:58:40 2008
From: reinagcm at chibardun.net (Glen and Carol Reinagle)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
Message-ID: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>

Hi,

Where can I find a parts list for a Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T and the spects for bore and stroke of the cylinder?  I have checked on the internet and the only place having a parts list was Plough in Austrailia and I haven't received a response from them even though I sent the request for postage over two weeks ago.

Glen


From plb at iinet.net.au  Mon Mar 10 21:30:16 2008
From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:30:16 +0900
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005601c88330$9b50ece0$d1f2c6a0$@net.au>

I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
with lesser quality on "yourtube"
Ray Freeman
Perth
WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 6:51 AM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu

I have put together a menu that allows you to click on an image and be
taken to the video file, which will then run in Windows Media Player.

The three main browsers all treat this differently, so you'll have to
experiment with your own preferences to get the best out of it.

IE6 worked best for me, keeping the menu page in the background and
running the video on top in the foreground.

Opera and Firefox both dashed off to get the video file and then
returned to the menu page once ithey had enough code to stream the
video.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm
or
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoMenu.htm

Choose the website that is closest to you, it does make a big
difference on download times.

There is no icon on the main menus yet, so you'll have to bookmark the
links until I get time to update the menuing.

The lead image for each page has the file size on the image itself. If
there is more than one menu image for the video file then only the
first one will have the size.

Let me know if anyone has any problems please.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From oldengines at bigpond.com  Tue Mar 11 11:23:06 2008
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:23:06 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<47D1F760.3020407@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c883a4$f384a1d0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Hi All
thank you for all your prayers and support off and on list.
Liz had 4 of the top 1/3 of right hand fingers  chopped  off and only the 
ring finger was a successful rejoin .Her spiits have been down but she was a 
little better today and once they stop the pain killers she will get back to 
herself..
thanks again
Ron & Liz Sullivan
oldengines at bigpond.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT Accident


> This is terrible news Patrick.  Having had the end of a finger amputated
> and reattached about 5 years ago, I know on a small scale what she is
> going through.  There are so many nerve endings in the fingers that
> reattachment surgery can be very painful for a long time after its
> over.  I had the tip of my right middle finger pinched off about 2
> months ago.  They sewed it back and its healing and no more pain.  This
> wasn't nearly as serious as the other accident I had as it didn't cut
> the bone off, just tissue.  Still hurt though.  We'll be saying some
> prayers for Liz.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone wrote:
>
>>Hi folks.
>> Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
>>Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. 
>>She
>>had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
>>the fingers.
>>Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try 
>>and
>>keep everyone informed.
>>The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
>>still having problems with blood flow.
>>I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>Leichhardt NSW
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Mar 11 10:29:24 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:29:24 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 48, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1205251203.30918.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080311192755.00bcbec0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 11/03/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:16:07 +1100
>From: Al Harris <alharris44 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video.
>G'day Jerry,
>Ran fine on WMP, MPlayer Classic and GMPlayer(GNU).
>Looked good at 640x480 and sounded nice.

>Couple of bugs at the end, but, what the heck. ;-)
>Ta,
>Al Harris

Hi Al :-)
         "dems not bugs - dems moths" <smile>

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Mar 11 10:26:50 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:26:50 +0200
Subject: [SEL] More Video./now silencer.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1205251203.30918.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080311190646.00bcbb70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:23 -0500
>From: "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video.
>Jerry:
>The video came through just fine.
>I need to study your silencer some more with the Hoyt-Clagwell in 
>mind.  What formula did you use to determine the size and number of holes 
>in the tubes?
>Take care - Elden

Hi Elden,
         There is a description of the silencer here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/silencer.htm>.
or a drawing from the same page here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/sil2.jpg>

         On this one I did not use any formula - just made sure the total 
"surface area" of all the holes in each of the baffle tubes was not less 
than the surface area of the inlet hole (ie. no back pressure worth 
mentioning). You will notice that the 2nd baffle tube is interchangeable 
with a "free flow" tube for when I feel like making a bit of noise but 
actually this engine runs so quietly that there is very little difference 
when it's idling along - of course, if I put a load on it there would be a 
big difference.

         The silencer I made for the Maytag needed a bit of back pressure 
and you can read about it here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/maytag/muffler.htm>

         I know very little (actually nothing :-)) about muffler design - 
pretty much just stumble along and end up with something that works. <grin>

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Tue Mar 11 12:14:00 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:14:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT Accident
In-Reply-To: <003e01c883a4$f384a1d0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
References: <20080308012113.FIRX18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>	<47D1F760.3020407@scrtc.com>
	<003e01c883a4$f384a1d0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
Message-ID: <47D6D9F8.4020308@scrtc.com>

Ron,
    Tell her to keep her spirits up and be patient.  It will be quite a 
while before the healing really takes hold and also let here know that 
things will look much better in 6 months than they do today.  I know 
when I amputated my left ring finger It looked terrible for a long 
time.  Then the healing took over and now its just part of me.  Here is 
an interesting news report that might have hope for those of us who have 
had finger injuries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H73dfmFhMNM

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Ron Sullivan wrote:

>Hi All
>thank you for all your prayers and support off and on list.
>Liz had 4 of the top 1/3 of right hand fingers  chopped  off and only the 
>ring finger was a successful rejoin .Her spiits have been down but she was a 
>little better today and once they stop the pain killers she will get back to 
>herself..
>thanks again
>Ron & Liz Sullivan
>oldengines at bigpond.com
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT Accident
>
>
>  
>
>>This is terrible news Patrick.  Having had the end of a finger amputated
>>and reattached about 5 years ago, I know on a small scale what she is
>>going through.  There are so many nerve endings in the fingers that
>>reattachment surgery can be very painful for a long time after its
>>over.  I had the tip of my right middle finger pinched off about 2
>>months ago.  They sewed it back and its healing and no more pain.  This
>>wasn't nearly as serious as the other accident I had as it didn't cut
>>the bone off, just tissue.  Still hurt though.  We'll be saying some
>>prayers for Liz.
>>
>>Tommy Turner
>>Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi folks.
>>>Just passing on word on behalf of Ron Sullivan.
>>>Liz had an accident on Thursday losing four fingers off her right hand. 
>>>She
>>>had surgery Thursday night and is in surgery again Friday to try and save
>>>the fingers.
>>>Ron is, understandably, hard to get hold of at the moment but I will try 
>>>and
>>>keep everyone informed.
>>>The latest news is that they have saved two fingers but one of those is
>>>still having problems with blood flow.
>>>I will pass on more news from Ron on Liz's condition when more is known.
>>>
>>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>>Leichhardt NSW
>>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>    
>>
>
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>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
>  
>



From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 11 13:58:12 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:58:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
In-Reply-To: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBEENGGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Glen:

I don't remember where I got the reprint booklet for my 2 hp Jack of All Trades (the same as the "T" but shipped without the subbase.).

Did you try such people as Lee Pedersen, Hit-N-Miss, etc.  It shouldn't be too hard to come by a reprint.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Glen and
> Carol Reinagle
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:59 AM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where can I find a parts list for a Fairbanks 
> Morse 2 hp Verticle T and the spects for bore and 
> stroke of the cylinder?  I have checked on the 
> internet and the only place having a parts list 
> was Plough in Austrailia and I haven't received a 
> response from them even though I sent the request 
> for postage over two weeks ago.
> 
> Glen
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 11 14:00:38 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:00:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] More Video./now silencer.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080311190646.00bcbb70@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIENGGKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

Thanks for the information.  I've already looked at your page and now know your 'formula'.  Makes sense to me!

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video./now silencer.
> 
> 
> 
> >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:23 -0500
> >From: "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
> >Subject: Re: [SEL] More Video.
> >Jerry:
> >The video came through just fine.
> >I need to study your silencer some more with the 
> Hoyt-Clagwell in 
> >mind.  What formula did you use to determine the 
> size and number of holes 
> >in the tubes?
> >Take care - Elden
> 
> Hi Elden,
>          There is a description of the silencer here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/
> silencer.htm>.
> or a drawing from the same page here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/
> sil2.jpg>
> 
>          On this one I did not use any formula - 
> just made sure the total 
> "surface area" of all the holes in each of the 
> baffle tubes was not less 
> than the surface area of the inlet hole (ie. no 
> back pressure worth 
> mentioning). You will notice that the 2nd baffle 
> tube is interchangeable 
> with a "free flow" tube for when I feel like 
> making a bit of noise but 
> actually this engine runs so quietly that there 
> is very little difference 
> when it's idling along - of course, if I put a 
> load on it there would be a 
> big difference.
> 
>          The silencer I made for the Maytag 
> needed a bit of back pressure 
> and you can read about it here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/maytag/muf
fler.htm>

         I know very little (actually nothing :-)) about muffler design - 
pretty much just stumble along and end up with something that works. <grin>

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Mar 11 14:58:58 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:58:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <006401c88329$69b33870$726f4b47@mikecomp>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<006401c88329$69b33870$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <1205272738.47d700a20d7fd@webmail.city-net.com>

Fer sure there was some "borrowing" going on, just a matter of properly
identifying the low life swiping the good ideas; sneaky Brunner bunch...
8-))

Here's the story on the goodun's.  
http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm

Quoting Mike Royster <mr at carolina.rr.com>:

> An idea "borrowed" from the Brunner Corp., a superior competitor.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> > Way back in the 1920's the Fero Air Pump featured a centrifugal unloader 




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Mar 11 15:08:42 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:08:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Mark,

Funny you should mention the really good high-end machines...
http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm

That was their undoing.  The damn things were so well built there was no need
for replacement compressors or replacement parts.  Unlike those POS Brunners...
 8-))

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>:

> Some still do use centrifugal unloaders but they are the High end machines 
> where a real 5 hp will cost you $2500- $3500.  Very few people on the list 
> have ever actually seen a good high end machine in real life for sale on a 
> sales floor. As a rule what you see on a sales floor today from Harbor 
> Freight to the big box stores is a compromise for a real compressor. A lot 
> of compromises made to deliver a compressor unit at a competative price in 
> a very competative market.  Most of the time when you wonder why you don't 
> see something, all you have to do is think money and thats where the answer 
> usually lays.




From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 17:25:50 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hey Arnie,
It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of 
the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it 
before.  TTYL,    Mark


At 05:08 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>
>Funny you should mention the really good high-end machines...
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm
>
>That was their undoing.  The damn things were so well built there was no need
>for replacement compressors or replacement parts.  Unlike those POS 
>Brunners...
>  8-))
>
>See ya,  Arnie

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 11 16:49:07 2008
From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:49:07 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T
In-Reply-To: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>
References: <001b01c88399$27e679f0$08c429d8@Dimension>
Message-ID: <BAY116-W39D94389D87B50052D7CFBBA0F0@phx.gbl>


Hi Glen, if you send me your postal address i can send you a copy of the parts instruction booklet,email off list please,regards dave in oz> From: reinagcm at chibardun.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500> Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T> > Hi,> > Where can I find a parts list for a Fairbanks Morse 2 hp Verticle T and the spects for bore and stroke of the cylinder? I have checked on the internet and the only place having a parts list was Plough in Austrailia and I haven't received a response from them even though I sent the request for postage over two weeks ago.> > Glen> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 11 16:49:36 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:49:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com> 
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Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it  old Mike ended up marrying one of the two girls in the Fero acquisition  story but  SEL censorship issues keeps me from saying which one!      
 
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: frappi at wcoil.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Hey Arnie,> It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of > the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it > before. TTYL, Mark> > > At 05:08 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:> >Hi Mark,> >> >Funny you should mention the really good high-end machines...> >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm> >> >That was their undoing. The damn things were so well built there was no need> >for replacement compressors or replacement parts. Unlike those POS > >Brunners...> > 8-))> >> >See ya, Arnie> > Mark & Christine Shulaw> 454 Co. Rd. 33> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com> > Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.> Parts lists available on request.> > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206> No Sunday calls if possible.> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent > them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From riga_fire at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 17:19:34 2008
From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
Message-ID: <964998.7409.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A guy here in Michigan has rotary phase converters for sale. He is on "craigs list" at #580955483. This will hit toledo where I seen his add but it states he is in Michigan. I believe he sells them as a sideline. His phone is 989-823-8118. If you want to go this way. 
I wish I could find one of them at a sale! Looking for the Quincy as they are a good make.
 
Paul Russell 
Riga, MI. 49276
riga_fire at yahoo.com





----- Original Message ----
From: Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2008 2:19:34 PM
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors

Hi all,
I know this is off topic, but it relates to one of the tools used in 
restoring old engines, so that's close.

I attended a nearby community sale yesterday and ended up dragging 
home a huge behemoth of an air compressor.  It's a Curtis 2-stage, 80 
gallon upright.  It wasn't until I got it home and unloaded it that I 
realized the motor on it is 3 PHASE.  I can't run 3 phase in my 
garage, so if anyone has a single phase motor that would work for 
this application, I would be interested in buying or trading for this 
3 phase unit.  The motor is rated at 5 HP.  I don't know much about 
the particulars of electric motors, but I'm guessing I'd probably 
need a single phase motor with more HP than the 3 phase motor I'd be 
swapping out...  Can anyone confirm that?  Here is some of the 
information on the motor tag:

Frame- 184T
Horsepower- 5
Volts- 208-230/460
Amps- 14.8-14/7
RPM- 1725
NEMA nom eff. 81.5%
Rating- 400 AMB-Cont.
PF- 80%

I'd also be interested in trading the whole compressor unit for a 
complete single phase unit if anyone is looking to upgrade.  I do not 
need a compressor this large, but I got a pretty good deal on it, so 
I bought it anyway.  I won't need anything more than a 60 gallon 
single stage for my uses.  I can provide pics of the motor or the 
whole compressor if anyone is interested.

Thanks,

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL

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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Tue Mar 11 17:28:08 2008
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:28:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Take a look at this steam engine!
In-Reply-To: <1205272738.47d700a20d7fd@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <56F3DADA00614EF5A499D596A0763D0C@Glenns>

http://www.sialis.org/images/NABS2008/Image00008.html

Glenn



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 11 18:48:49 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:48:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080311204627.030a49c0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Those wedding pics would make a GREAT photo album GRINNNN. Any idea if it 
were shot gun? LMAO! Oh Gods theres too many jokes in that kinda 
wedding.     Mark


At 06:49 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:

>Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it  old Mike ended up marrying one of the two 
>girls in the Fero acquisition  story but  SEL censorship issues keeps me 
>from saying which one!
>
> > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500> To: 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: frappi at wcoil.com> Subject: Re: 
> [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Hey Arnie,> It's always good to go back 
> and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of > the Fero, GRINN. 
> Recomended reading to all who have not read it > before. TTYL, Mark> > > 
> At 05:08 PM 3/11/08, you wrote:> >Hi Mark,> >> >Funny you should mention 
> the really good high-end 
> machines...> >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm> >> >That 
> was their undoing. The damn things were so well built there was no 
> need> >for replacement compressors or replacement parts. Unlike those 
> POS > >Brunners...> > 8-))> >> >See ya, Arnie> > Mark & Christine Shulaw> 
> 454 Co. Rd. 33> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com> > Your 
> one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.> Parts lists 
> available on request.> > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 
> 419.358.5206> No Sunday calls if possible.> I am not an employee or 
> licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent > them in any way 
> shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer 
> of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark> > >




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Mar 11 17:55:14 2008
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:55:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL]  John Deere Music  ?
Message-ID: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rex Hinz 
 
Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere stuff

just click the link after you read below

Rex Hinz 

            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI

            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEO!!


            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up in
            > catcher cones.
            > 
            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort between
            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School
            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of the
            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and Irrigation
            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
            > 
            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment,
            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you can see it
            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard
            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be donated to
            > the Smithsonian.
            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related

           
     
(See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv) 


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue Mar 11 18:09:16 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:09:16 +1100
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <015b01c883dd$b3562f00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Scam! Check Snopes.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rex Hinz" <rex002 at centurytel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music ?


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rex Hinz
>
> Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere 
> stuff
>
> just click the link after you read below
>
> Rex Hinz
>
>            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI
>
>            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING 
> THE VIDEO!!
>
>
>            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up 
> in
>            > catcher cones.
>            >
>            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort 
> between
>            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick 
> School
>            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of 
> the
>            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and 
> Irrigation
>            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
>            >
>            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, 
> alignment,
>            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you 
> can see it
>            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the 
> Matthew Gerhard
>            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be 
> donated to
>            > the Smithsonian.
>            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!
>
>            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related
>
>
>
> (See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Mar 11 18:36:04 2008
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:36:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <200803120101.m2C11lb5018271@mail924c35.nsolutionszone.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c883e1$716cdfe0$6400a8c0@home>

Your Right Reg , its a scam Just checked Snopes.com , Sorry for the mistake 
and my apologies to the list

Rex
.----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rex Hinz" <rex002 at centurytel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music ?


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rex Hinz
>
 



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Tue Mar 11 19:55:15 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:55:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <47D74613.5070405@scrtc.com>

That's an animation.  Nice though.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Rex Hinz wrote:

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Rex Hinz 
> 
>Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere stuff
>
>just click the link after you read below
>
>Rex Hinz 
>
>            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI
>
>            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEO!!
>
>
>            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up in
>            > catcher cones.
>            > 
>            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort between
>            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick School
>            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of the
>            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and Irrigation
>            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
>            > 
>            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, alignment,
>            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you can see it
>            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the Matthew Gerhard
>            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be donated to
>            > the Smithsonian.
>            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!
>
>            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related
>
>           
>     
>(See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv) 
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
>  
>


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Mar 11 20:21:37 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:21:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10><003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed><6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com><1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com><6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com><1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002901c883f0$2f86c410$726f4b47@mikecomp>


Tsk tsk, where is the down side of marrying a young girl that likes to 
"traipse about nekid through the poison ivy?"

DUH???


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors



Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it  old Mike ended up marrying one of the two 
girls in the Fero acquisition  story but  SEL censorship issues keeps me 
from saying which one!




> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:25:50 -0500> To: 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: frappi at wcoil.com> Subject: Re: 
> [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Hey Arnie,> It's always good to go back and 
> re-read Mikes story of the aquisition of > the Fero, GRINN. Recomended 
> reading to all who have not read it > before. TTYL, Mark> > > At 05:08 PM 
> 3/11/08, you wrote:> >Hi Mark,> >> >Funny you should mention the really 
> good high-end machines...> 
>  >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm> >> >That was their 
> undoing. The damn things were so well built there was no need> >for 
> replacement compressors or replacement parts. Unlike those POS > 
>  >Brunners...> > 8-))> >> >See ya, Arnie> > Mark & Christine Shulaw> 454 
> Co. Rd. 33> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com> > Your one 
> stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.> Parts lists available 
> on request.> > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 
> 419.358.5206> No Sunday calls if possible.> I am not an employee or 
> licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent > them in any way 
> shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer 
> of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark> > > 
> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> 
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
_________________________________________________________________
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"fix".
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 11 22:54:54 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:54:54 +1100
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <004601c88405$9fe02930$0200a8c0@altech>

What the full movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlVRdAU2-R0&feature=related

Peter, Oz




>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Rex Hinz
>
> Hey All you John Deere Lovers !   Look what you can make out of Deere 
> stuff
>
> just click the link after you read below
>
> Rex Hinz
>
>            Almost makes you wonder if this is real or CGI
>
>            PLEASE NOTE............READ THIS DESCRIPTION BEFORE WATCHING 
> THE VIDEO!!
>
>
>            > This is almost unbelievable! See how all of the balls wind up 
> in
>            > catcher cones.
>            >
>            > This incredible machine was built as a collaborative effort 
> between
>            > the Robert M. Trammell Music Conservatory and the Sharon Wick 
> School
>            > of Engineering at the University of Iowa . Amazingly, 97% of 
> the
>            > machines components came from John Deere Industries and 
> Irrigation
>            > Equipment of Bancroft , Iowa , yes farm equipment!
>            >
>            > It took the team a combined 13,029 hours of set-up, 
> alignment,
>            > calibration, and tuning before filming this video but as you 
> can see it
>            > was WELL worth the effort. It is now on display in the 
> Matthew Gerhard
>            > Alumni Hall at the University and is already slated to be 
> donated to
>            > the Smithsonian.
>            Now turn on your volume & get ready to be AMAZED!
>
>            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuMW-Ndi1ic&feature=related
>
>
>
> (See attached file: FantasticMachineAV.wmv)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 12 06:35:35 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:35:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] John Deere Music  ?
References: <000f01c883db$bd131500$6400a8c0@home>
	<015b01c883dd$b3562f00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <005701c88445$fc84a360$6a01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

> Scam! Check Snopes.
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Gee ya think so  ?  And here's yet another , note that 
they got the song title wrong .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGEqlNU30Tg&feature=related
Here's a couple or three hours of mechanical music .
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2B3CC4A60C17449D



Chuck Balyeat 
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 08:31:47 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:31:47 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2007 Video Clip Menu
In-Reply-To: <005601c88330$9b50ece0$d1f2c6a0$@net.au>
References: <6f6025160803101450g157ca749i49da685065cea871@mail.gmail.com>
	<005601c88330$9b50ece0$d1f2c6a0$@net.au>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803120831i5da195b1oe0eb9c80f6c85381@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/03/2008, Ray And Erica Freeman <plb at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> I've just had a look at a few and they are great! For me they download twice
>  as fast from the oldengine site as opposed to the stationary-engine. It
>  would be nice to see more of this. Much better than finding then putting up
>  with lesser quality on "yourtube"
>  Ray Freeman

Have a look at the'Quickie' video clips we've just done. They are in
wide-screen format which is what they were shot in originally, and
don't look 'squeezed' on the screen.

You may have to drag the sides of Windows Media Player out to show the
full width.

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/PortlandQKXX.wmv

'XX' is the file number. Numbers 1 to 22 are up, smallest is about
0.8mb largest is 11mb.

We may have a DVD disc out of the camera that we haven't looked at yet...

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Mar 12 11:21:40 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:21:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
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Married her???  Hey Steve, I always thought it was that sexy babe he took with
him on those skin diving trips of his?  8->>>  Arnie

Quoting Steve Royster <steve_royster at hotmail.com>:

> Good Idea Mark,    Rumor has it old Mike ended up marrying one of the two
> girls in the Fero acquisition story but SEL censorship issues keeps me from
> saying which one!      
>  
>  
> > From: frappi at wcoil.com
> > It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition
> > of the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it 
> > before.  http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 12 13:50:10 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:50:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Air compressor motors
In-Reply-To: <1205346100.47d81f344587c@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <20080310021415.MVRSP.295813.root@fepweb10>
	<003301c882e1$e32e6460$0202a8c0@Ed>
	<6f6025160803101329y4dc8dc6va5e01d763503e701@mail.gmail.com>
	<1205199571.47d5e2d310933@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311080413.02f810e0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<1205273322.47d702ea01f33@webmail.city-net.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080311191837.0309e310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<BAY144-W115F4919DA013C84C42478950F0@phx.gbl> 
	<1205346100.47d81f344587c@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W300E84147DACF550027C2495080@phx.gbl>


Arnie, The Key word is  SKIN , them you will get to the DIVING part!  and you thought water was involved......  The good Oyster> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:21:40 -0500> From: fero_ah at city-net.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Air compressor motors> > Married her??? Hey Steve, I always thought it was that sexy babe he took with> him on those skin diving trips of his? 8->>> Arnie> > Quoting Steve Royster <steve_royster at hotmail.com>:> > > Good Idea Mark, Rumor has it old Mike ended up marrying one of the two> > girls in the Fero acquisition story but SEL censorship issues keeps me from> > saying which one! > > > > > > > From: frappi at wcoil.com> > > It's always good to go back and re-read Mikes story of the aquisition> > > of the Fero, GRINN. Recomended reading to all who have not read it > > > before. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 12 16:56:31 2008
From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:56:31 +1100
Subject: [SEL] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BAY116-W54C71080750FD9940CE4EDBA080@phx.gbl>


Hi All, hoping some one can help with the correct color scheme for the 4hp mogul engine and transport, i have only found one going through my tomm magazines and it didnt look to be the correct colors,cheers dave
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 11:15:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:15:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Videos
Message-ID: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>

The site will be down while we revamp the videos and let the server cool off.

Bandwidth went past 15gb against 1.5gb that we pay for.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Mar 14 12:02:00 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:02:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1205521320.47dacba8110b4@webmail.city-net.com>

Peter,

One suggestion...  Switch the videos of Reggie, Bambi, Nitro, and the sheep to a
"Pay-per-View" basis.  That should lower the bandwidth consumption and generate
some revenue.

See ya,  Anrie

Quoting Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>:

> The site will be down while we revamp the videos and let the server cool
> off.
> Bandwidth went past 15gb against 1.5gb that we pay for.




From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat Mar 15 10:38:25 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:38:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Transport PA to Portland or Waukee
In-Reply-To: <223060.89776.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <223060.89776.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080315121912.02f25700@pop3.wcoil.com>

   A friend of mine bought a 5 hp Type F Hercules on Cart   thru E-Bay Last 
week, its In Kutztown PA   Kutzytown is smack dab betweeen Allen and 
Reading.  Is anyone around or passing thru there going to 
Portland,  Lesueur or Waukee?
Geoff the fellow that bought it is in the process of moving to Wisconsin so 
something to there would work too.  I am planning on going to a couple of 
those events and to Coolsprings in June too so if you can get it to 
Northwest Ohio or Coolsprings that would work.  Basically any points west 
could be made to work.  His email is Geoffrey Voorhees 
<geoffessuperbird at hotmail.com>

                                        Thanks,   Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
Bluffton, Ohio
Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
Home #419.358.5206





From George at irontrader.com  Sat Mar 15 10:57:24 2008
From: George at irontrader.com (George Best)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:57:24 -0700
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <454E20A79F454CF3B0809BD84FECCECB@NewHP>

When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often 
the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine 
part.
Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially 
if it is something you can use.

I've loaded a picture at this address:

www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg

To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
a replacement.

If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
if you don't take a guess. ;-)

George

ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting 
diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what 
it fits. 




From glenn.karch at att.net  Sat Mar 15 11:03:54 2008
From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:03:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <970415.37603.qm@web83707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

That spring looks like a pickup finger from a combine grain head.

Glenn



----- Original Message ----
From: George Best <George at irontrader.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:57:24 PM
Subject: [SEL] What is it?

When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often 
the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine 
part.
Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially 
if it is something you can use.

I've loaded a picture at this address:

www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg

To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
a replacement.

If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
if you don't take a guess. ;-)

George

ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting 
diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what 
it fits. 


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From MaytagTwin at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 11:08:26 2008
From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:08:26 EDT
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <c02.2ebbe1fd.350d6a9a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 12:02:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
George at irontrader.com writes:

If you  have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
if you  don't take a guess. ;-)

George



Hi George,
Looks like a kick starter return spring to me.
Ron



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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 11:15:59 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:15:59 EDT
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 2:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
George at irontrader.com writes:

While it  really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
a  replacement.


Trip finger spring off a New Holland engine, I think a 1/2 hp size.   Cliff 
Moyer in Pennsylvania sells replacement ones.
 

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Mar 15 11:59:45 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:59:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
References: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47DC1CA1.4000501@scrtc.com>

Tom, yes that's what it is.  It goes on the long rocker arm.  I believe 
that one is bigger than a 1/2 though.  I would guess at least a 1 1/2 
and could be a bit bigger.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Germoamer at aol.com wrote:

> 
>In a message dated 3/15/2008 2:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
>George at irontrader.com writes:
>
>While it  really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
>a  replacement.
>
>
>Trip finger spring off a New Holland engine, I think a 1/2 hp size.   Cliff 
>Moyer in Pennsylvania sells replacement ones.
> 
>
>Tom  Schmutz
>Concord,  Va.
>germaoamer at AOL.com
>
>
>
>
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From George at irontrader.com  Sat Mar 15 12:47:56 2008
From: George at irontrader.com (George Best)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:47:56 -0700
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
References: <c33.298a7610.350d6c5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D2D471A416C8422DB8A05144C84F81A7@NewHP>

You're right, although it is off of my 2hp engine.

I really didn't pay much attention to New Holland engines before I got mine. 
I was a bit surprised the more I worked on cleaning my engine up how 
complicated New Holland made some of the castings and other odd things 
unique to those engines.  I thought that spring was certainly different than 
any I've seen on other engines!

Good to know someone sells replacements although I hope to never need one.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] What is it?


>
> In a message dated 3/15/2008 2:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> George at irontrader.com writes:
>
> While it  really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to 
> find
> a  replacement.
>
>
> Trip finger spring off a New Holland engine, I think a 1/2 hp size. 
> Cliff
> Moyer in Pennsylvania sells replacement ones.
>
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germaoamer at AOL.com
>
>
>
>
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From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Mar 15 13:03:57 2008
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:03:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
In-Reply-To: <454E20A79F454CF3B0809BD84FECCECB@NewHP>
References: <6f6025160803141115q76d47dd4mfd96efc6e37fba92@mail.gmail.com>
	<454E20A79F454CF3B0809BD84FECCECB@NewHP>
Message-ID: <002f01c886d7$b6739d60$3464a8c0@Eagle>

	Looks like a spring from a windrowing rake for hay or straw to me. 


Bob Willman
Bowling Green, Ohio
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of George Best
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] What is it?

When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often
the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine
part.
Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially
if it is something you can use.

I've loaded a picture at this address:

www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg

To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find
a replacement.

If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for,
if you don't take a guess. ;-)

George

ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting
diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what
it fits. 


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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 15:03:23 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:23 EDT
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <d5d.1f73544b.350da1ab@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 3:52:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
George at irontrader.com writes:

Good to  know someone sells replacements although I hope to never need  one.



Cliff Moyer sells a number of repro items for the New Holland  engines. At 
least I assume he still does.  He is getting up in  years.  He also maintains a 
New Holland serial number list and is able to  determine the year built. 
 
ps.  I cheated on the test.  I had to go and look at mine to make  sure I was 
thinking right on what the spring was before i sent the answer   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germaoamer at AOL.com




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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Mar 15 15:55:35 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:55:35 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Happy Birthday
Message-ID: <20080315225530.YGJT11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Happy 60th Edd!!!!!!!!!!!!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Sat Mar 15 16:59:39 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:59:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <005701c886f8$a23060b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Happy birthday Mate for your 60th, hope there is plenty more to come. Cheers 
Cam
Cam and Edwina Grundy
Kariong 2250
New South Wales
Australia. 


From oldengines at bigpond.com  Sat Mar 15 21:51:21 2008
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:51:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT Happy Birthday
References: <20080315225530.YGJT11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001f01c88721$611e8600$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Happy Birthday Edd   Best Wishes
P.S I thought you was 70
Ron & Liz Sullivan
oldengines at bigpond.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: [SEL] OT Happy Birthday


> Happy 60th Edd!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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From oldengines at bigpond.com  Sat Mar 15 22:01:37 2008
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:01:37 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Off Topic Passing
Message-ID: <002601c88722$d081e270$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Hi All
This would mainly be 4 Australia . Don Ruby Of Yackandanda a well known restorer  Passed away by himself in his workshop doing what he loved working on some of his projects Don was a good family man and always put a hand out to help  anyone  and  He will be sadly missed
Ron & Liz Sullivan
oldengines at bigpond.com


From Peterwoodmore at aol.com  Sat Mar 15 22:06:01 2008
From: Peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peterwoodmore at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:01 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <d2d.23f91190.350e04b9@aol.com>

Happy 60th Ed and best wishes for a great milestone.

Peter Woodmore. 
peterwoodmore at aol.com
Skype name Woadmere   



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Mar 16 00:32:30 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:32:30 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
References: <d2d.23f91190.350e04b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001801c88737$e55122f0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

Thanks blokes.I thought it was the end of it all when I turned 30 now it's 
double that.Like my mum and dad said on there card.WE WERE THERE AT THE 
BEGINNING.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Peterwoodmore at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Birthday


> Happy 60th Ed and best wishes for a great milestone.
>
> Peter Woodmore.
> peterwoodmore at aol.com
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Mar 16 05:12:18 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:12:18 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <d05.2bbc7dcf.350e68a2@aol.com>

Happy birthday Edd!  Turned 64 myself in January. Can't wait till I get 65, 
on Medicare, and start getting some of Dave's money!  


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun Mar 16 05:42:28 2008
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:42:28 +0000
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Message-ID: <031620081242.4390.47DD15B400037F8700001126219791299503010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

George,
That is a pickup spring for a older hay rake.  Got an old Case hay rake that 
takes that style of spring and almost impossible to find new any more.  The 
rake was built back in the mid 1800's and on steel wheels normally pulled by 
horses but I still use mine with a tractor for windrowing hay.
regards,
Curt Andree


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "George Best" <George at irontrader.com>
To:      "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
Date:    Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:39 +0000

> When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts often 
> the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine 
> part.
> Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, especially 
> if it is something you can use.
> 
> I've loaded a picture at this address:
> 
> www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg
> 
> To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something. 
> While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to find 
> a replacement.
> 
> If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is for, 
> if you don't take a guess. ;-)
> 
> George
> 
> ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting 
> diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess what 
> it fits. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun Mar 16 06:01:53 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:01:53 +1100
Subject: [SEL] What is it?
References: <031620081242.4390.47DD15B400037F8700001126219791299503010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c88765$e82cb5b0$0200a8c0@altech>

Should be able to get spares made from any spring making shop.
Peter, Oz





> George,
> That is a pickup spring for a older hay rake.  Got an old Case hay rake 
> that
> takes that style of spring and almost impossible to find new any more. 
> The
> rake was built back in the mid 1800's and on steel wheels normally pulled 
> by
> horses but I still use mine with a tractor for windrowing hay.
> regards,
> Curt Andree
>
>
> ----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
> From:    "George Best" <George at irontrader.com>
> To:      "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Subject: [SEL] What is it?
> Date:    Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:39 +0000
>
>> When you're walking around during a swap meet looking at engine parts 
>> often
>> the vendor doens't know what the part fits, just knows it an old engine
>> part.
>> Knowing what the part fits can make the part much more valuable, 
>> especially
>> if it is something you can use.
>>
>> I've loaded a picture at this address:
>>
>> www.irontrader.com/graphics/spring.jpg
>>
>> To some people it would look like a spring off an implement or something.
>> While it really is a spring off an engine and I think would be hard to 
>> find
>> a replacement.
>>
>> If you have one of these engines you probably know what the spring is 
>> for,
>> if you don't take a guess. ;-)
>>
>> George
>>
>> ps  I know what the spring fits.  Just thought it might be an interesting
>> diversion to post pictures of unusual parts and see if people can guess 
>> what
>> it fits.
>>
>>
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From old_iron at msn.com  Sun Mar 16 13:54:29 2008
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:54:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
In-Reply-To: <001801c88737$e55122f0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
References: <d2d.23f91190.350e04b9@aol.com>
	<001801c88737$e55122f0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
Message-ID: <BLU137-W1058C2B9BFB8B9E910EC5BE7040@phx.gbl>


I also just had my 60th on Feb 18th.  Most of my "younger" friends keep telling me I don't "act" 60, I am still trying to figure out if that is a good or bad thing.
 
Happy Birthday Edd and may you have many more.
 
May good luck be with you
Wherever you go,
And your blessings outnumber,
The shamrocks that grow.
 
Peg Pfeiffer> From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:32:30 +1100> Subject: Re: [SEL] Birthday> > Thanks blokes.I thought it was the end of it all when I turned 30 now it's > double that.Like my mum and dad said on there card.WE WERE THERE AT THE > BEGINNING.> EDD PAYNE> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W> Australia> 2852> Phone:0263742387> edsengns at optusnet.com.au> edsengns> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Peterwoodmore at aol.com>> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:06 PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] Birthday> > > > Happy 60th Ed and best wishes for a great milestone.> >> > Peter Woodmore.> > peterwoodmore at aol.com> > Skype name Woadmere> >> > _______________________________________________> > SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Mar 16 18:02:59 2008
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:02:59 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
Message-ID: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>

About 4 or 5 years ago I took a Alamo flywheel engine to a 
show.  This engine has always been easy to start and a good 
runner.  It refused to run and I did some  show fixing but 
finally gave it up and brought it home and let it sit until 
now.  I decided to take it to an upcoming show and did not 
want to repeat the previous fiasco so I wheeled it into the 
shop and began to fiddle with it.  I got it started and 
convinced myself it was not getting a good fuel supply.  I 
took the fuel pump apart and made sure the check valves 
worked and put it back together with almost no change except 
maybe worse.  Well the next thing was to take the mixer 
apart, when in doubt take something apart, at the very least 
find something to twist.  This is an overflow mixer and 
there really is not much in it to go  wrong,  made sure 
everything was clear and put it back on the engine. I also 
took the mag/igniter out and checked the spark and it  made 
a nice fat blue spark. I got the engine started after some 
backfires and flooding which kind of surprised me as it 
never did this before. The engine was running but rather 
poorly and sometimes hitting the mag trip 4 or 5 times 
before firing.  I was a little perplexed, after all there is 
a pretty definite limit to what can be fixed on an engine 
like this. After watching this bad runner for a while it 
looked like the mag was not getting a very good trip.  I 
held the trip down with my finger so as to get more rotation 
on the mag armature and the everything smoothed right out. 
I took the trip off and reworked it so as to have a longer 
engagement and get a faster and longer rotation of the 
armature.  Problem solved, runs fine.

A mag works by turning the armature through the magnetic 
field.  The hottest spark will be produced by turning 
through the most lines of force as fast as possible.  The 
mag trip on this engine was one of those thing that wear 
very slowly until it finally does not work very well.  As 
this happens over a long time it can be hard to spot. The 
mag worked fine outside the engine with the hand trip.The 
hand trip never gets used so it works pretty much like it 
did when it was new which got me convinced that there was 
nothing wrong with it. Amazing how you can look at something 
you understand and see nothing until it finally beats you 
over the head.  The upside of all this is that it runs like 
it used to and I know the fuel system is clean.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, California U.S.A.
replace nomore with net to send mail
jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun Mar 16 18:27:08 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:27:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
In-Reply-To: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <A090E777-7EB3-4E87-BCD2-ECC48175E23C@alltel.net>

>  Amazing how you can look at something
> you understand and see nothing until it finally beats you
> over the head.  The upside of all this is that it runs like
> it used to and I know the fuel system is clean.
> Jim

GOOD information Jim--THANKS!
	Dave


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Mar 16 19:06:45 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:06:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <002e01c887d3$8d441e40$726f4b47@mikecomp>

This is a great help.  I have a 6hp with the same components doing the same 
symptoms.  Can't wait to try your solution.

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JIM KIRKES" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old_Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems


> About 4 or 5 years ago I took a Alamo flywheel engine to a
> show.  This engine has always been easy to start and a good
> runner.  It refused to run and I did some  show fixing but
> finally gave it up and brought it home and let it sit until
> now.  I decided to take it to an upcoming show and did not
> want to repeat the previous fiasco so I wheeled it into the
> shop and began to fiddle with it.  I got it started and
> convinced myself it was not getting a good fuel supply.  I
> took the fuel pump apart and made sure the check valves
> worked and put it back together with almost no change except
> maybe worse.  Well the next thing was to take the mixer
> apart, when in doubt take something apart, at the very least
> find something to twist.  This is an overflow mixer and
> there really is not much in it to go  wrong,  made sure
> everything was clear and put it back on the engine. I also
> took the mag/igniter out and checked the spark and it  made
> a nice fat blue spark. I got the engine started after some
> backfires and flooding which kind of surprised me as it
> never did this before. The engine was running but rather
> poorly and sometimes hitting the mag trip 4 or 5 times
> before firing.  I was a little perplexed, after all there is
> a pretty definite limit to what can be fixed on an engine
> like this. After watching this bad runner for a while it
> looked like the mag was not getting a very good trip.  I
> held the trip down with my finger so as to get more rotation
> on the mag armature and the everything smoothed right out.
> I took the trip off and reworked it so as to have a longer
> engagement and get a faster and longer rotation of the
> armature.  Problem solved, runs fine.
>
> A mag works by turning the armature through the magnetic
> field.  The hottest spark will be produced by turning
> through the most lines of force as fast as possible.  The
> mag trip on this engine was one of those thing that wear
> very slowly until it finally does not work very well.  As
> this happens over a long time it can be hard to spot. The
> mag worked fine outside the engine with the hand trip.The
> hand trip never gets used so it works pretty much like it
> did when it was new which got me convinced that there was
> nothing wrong with it. Amazing how you can look at something
> you understand and see nothing until it finally beats you
> over the head.  The upside of all this is that it runs like
> it used to and I know the fuel system is clean.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim and Diane Kirkes
> Hemet, California U.S.A.
> replace nomore with net to send mail
> jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Mar 16 19:31:20 2008
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:31:20 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
	<002e01c887d3$8d441e40$726f4b47@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <012301c887d6$fcad5c30$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>

Hi Mike,

I should have said that this is a Webster low tension mag. 
The trip is much like the sear on a trigger.  In my case it 
had gotten a little rounded off which very much limited the 
engagement duration.  I imaging this was at one time a sharp 
90 degree angle.  Over the years it wore to perhaps a .015 
radius, certainly no more.  I got this sharp again and the 
problems were over.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, California U.S.A.
replace nomore with net to send mail
jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine problems


This is a great help.  I have a 6hp with the same components 
doing the same
symptoms.  Can't wait to try your solution.

Mike Royster




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun Mar 16 20:04:18 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:04:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
In-Reply-To: <012301c887d6$fcad5c30$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
References: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>	<002e01c887d3$8d441e40$726f4b47@mikecomp>
	<012301c887d6$fcad5c30$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <47DDDFB2.6030607@scrtc.com>

Jim
    Another problem I've found with the Websters is with the springs.  
Over time they'll loose their ability to "snap" back.  I've had engines 
do as yours did and I've replaced the springs on the Webster with the 
same result, it solved the bad running problem. 

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



JIM KIRKES wrote:

>Hi Mike,
>
>I should have said that this is a Webster low tension mag. 
>The trip is much like the sear on a trigger.  In my case it 
>had gotten a little rounded off which very much limited the 
>engagement duration.  I imaging this was at one time a sharp 
>90 degree angle.  Over the years it wore to perhaps a .015 
>radius, certainly no more.  I got this sharp again and the 
>problems were over.
>
>Jim
>
>Jim and Diane Kirkes
>Hemet, California U.S.A.
>replace nomore with net to send mail
>jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
><sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine problems
>
>
>This is a great help.  I have a 6hp with the same components 
>doing the same
>symptoms.  Can't wait to try your solution.
>
>Mike Royster
>
>
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>
>
>
>  
>


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar 17 04:38:12 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:12 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Message-ID: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>

G'Day all

Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
which can be seen at

http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html

Thanks for looking

Kerry

Lithgow NSW OZ 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 17 07:35:37 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:35:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <3A360687-E8FA-44E8-B11F-30BF9124BF68@alltel.net>


> G'Day all
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have  
> finished
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did  
> the page
> which can be seen at
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html
> Thanks for looking
> Kerry

VERY nice Kerry!
	Dave


From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon Mar 17 08:57:13 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:57:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
In-Reply-To: <00bf01c887ca$a53b0030$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEDHGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jim:

Thanks for the information.  I had about the same symptoms with my 2 HP Jack of All Trades.  It's battery and coil but it got sorry at a show and I fiddled with it for a while before I took the ignitor out.

The points had slowly burned to where they would barely close.  A trip to the junk compartment of the tool box and I got a couple of 6-32 screws and some nuts and a file and made a new set.  The engine ran fine afterwards and the junk points are still in there.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of JIM KIRKES
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 08:03 PM
> To: Stationary Engine List; Old_Engine
> Subject: [SEL] Engine problems
> 
> 
> About 4 or 5 years ago I took a Alamo flywheel 
> engine to a 
> show.  This engine has always been easy to start 
> and a good 
> runner.  It refused to run and I did some  show 
> fixing but 
> finally gave it up and brought it home and let it 
> sit until 
> now.

...............snip............................  

> Jim
> 
> Jim and Diane Kirkes
> Hemet, California U.S.A.




From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon Mar 17 08:59:22 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:59:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEDHGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Kerry:

You made light of a LOT of work.  Great job!

Take care - Elden 


> Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
> 
> 
> G'Day all
> 
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are 
> interested I have finished 
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas 
> and FINALLY did the page 
> which can be seen at
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/
> Austral.html
> 
> Thanks for looking
> 
> Kerry
> 
> Lithgow NSW OZ 




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 10:13:46 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:13:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W2892D226FE215DAEB9C0C395050@phx.gbl>


Beautiful Restoration Kerry, What is your finish?, great patina without painting! Steve> From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:12 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages> > G'Day all> > Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished > the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page > which can be seen at> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html> > Thanks for looking> > Kerry> > Lithgow NSW OZ > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Mar 17 10:44:37 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:44:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W2892D226FE215DAEB9C0C395050@phx.gbl>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
	<BAY144-W2892D226FE215DAEB9C0C395050@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <47DEAE05.1030805@scrtc.com>

I agree with Steve, great before and after!  I'm like Steve, what finish 
did you use?  Is it just a linseed oil type finish?  Thanks and congrats!

Tommy


>Beautiful Restoration Kerry, What is your finish?, great patina without painting! 
>



From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 16:32:21 2008
From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:32:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <BAY131-W2570959FDDFB193E7AFAE9A3050@phx.gbl>


G'Day Kerry, Engine looks great mate. Top job.RegardsLyndsay > From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:38:12 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages> > G'Day all> > Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished > the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page > which can be seen at> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html> > Thanks for looking> > Kerry> > Lithgow NSW OZ > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 17 17:55:41 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:55:41 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <000901c88892$ca63ccc0$5f2b6640$@com.au>

Hi Kerry, it will do I suppose. Done well. Cheers Cam

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 10:38 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages

G'Day all

Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
which can be seen at

http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html

Thanks for looking

Kerry

Lithgow NSW OZ 

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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 18 03:47:41 2008
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:47:41 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Message-ID: <031820081047.8555.47DF9DCD0009DF200000216B219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Very nice job Kerry.  Sure makes me feel good to beable to have helped you 
with the cup leathers (bucket leathers) you needed for the starter lamp.
Curt Andree


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To:      <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Date:    Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:26 +0000

> G'Day all
> 
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
> which can be seen at
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html
> 
> Thanks for looking
> 
> Kerry
> 
> Lithgow NSW OZ 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar 18 04:02:22 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:02:22 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT FW: Don Ruby funeral service
Message-ID: <20080318110211.GAVI10585.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html

  _____  


Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 11:06 PM
To: pml1 at bigpond.net.au
Subject: Don Ruby funeral service

 

  

Dear friends,

 

Firstly, thankyou for all the kind messages of sympathy to myself and family
on the sudden loss of Don.

For those that have asked, the funeral will be held on Wednesday 26th March
2008 at 

Conway Funeral Home

20 South Street, Wodonga at 10.30am. 

You are also invited for refreshments afterwards at the Wodonga RSL Club, 

Reid Street, Wodonga.

 

A graveside service will be held on Thursday 27th March at the Kilcunda
Memorial Cemetery, 

Kilcunda Victoria at 1.30pm.

 

Regards,


Marlene Ruby and family
344 Racecourse Road
Yackandandah  Vic 3749
Australia
Telephone 02 6027 1122

 

Please feel free to pass this news on to all Don's friends and contacts. 

Funeral details will be published in our local newspaper, the Border Morning
Mail (Albury/Wodonga) and the Herald Sun on Wednesday and Saturday this
week.

Please also feel free to contact Marlene to pass on any condolences.




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar 18 04:29:09 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:29:09 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <20080318112858.GSLW11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I think Brock is still getting the oil off his shirt ;)
There are more pictures of Kerry's Austral and all the Australs at our rally
last year at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc071.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html


-----Original Message-----


G'Day all

Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished 
the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page 
which can be seen at

http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html

Thanks for looking

Kerry

Lithgow NSW OZ 




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar 18 04:37:10 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:37:10 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT: A new engine dog
Message-ID: <20080318113659.GVMW5563.oaamta08sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

We are happy to announce another German Shepherd is on its way to guard the
engines. Hopefully she will enjoy being around the engines as much as the
mighty Shannon did.
The new girl is a Sable German Shepherd and her name is Petra (I should have
held out for VanDervoort or Austral).
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0803160052.JPG


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Tue Mar 18 04:49:28 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:49:28 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080317184532.00bcb030@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080317184532.00bcb030@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <2A9AB818E6664C6BA1755BDE630B6C89@KerryPC>

Thanks for all the kind word on the Austral, I thought it was going to be an 
easy project but it turned out a lot more than I thought, but it was all 
good fun and when Brock got her to run nearly straight away (although rough) 
was a great feeling.
Note the original colour of this Austral was Black with yellowgreen lining.

The finish
1) metal parts were cleaned of dirt then wire brushed using a hand grinder 
with brush attachment to remove the rust but instead of my usual method of 
getting the metal to a bright finished I took the rust off and left the 
metal slightly dark. see finish 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/temporary12.html
2) When engine was all assembled I coated it in a heavy coat of BLACK diesel 
sump oil then wiped off excess.
3) Problem was engine was taken to its first rally and started 2 days later 
and Brock was kind enough to remove more excess oil on his shirt while 
starting it 8-))
4) Engine oil dried over the next two months (Ruth's domestic work) then I 
coated it with two coats of Penetrol (paint additive) but boiled linseed / 
turps would be just as good
5) All brass parts were wired brushed but again not to bright finish
6) New (shiny) and old brass parts were coated in sump oil and heated with 
porta gas torch (Propane ?) until they were hot and sump oil burnt off this 
gave nearly the effect I wanted and the when the engine was coated with 
Penetrol those parts I added a little sump oil  and the finish was good.
7) Penetrol dried and has kept the finish - it is Black as it should be, has 
a shine and does look ok.

Kerry


> It looks great. Would you care to share with us how you achieved that 
> "finish" - it looks good.
>



From rsrolfne at atnet.net  Tue Mar 18 08:20:30 2008
From: rsrolfne at atnet.net (Bob W7AVK)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:20:30 -0700
Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
Message-ID: <47DFDDBE.1090307@atnet.net>

Good Day - Anyone point me in the direction where I can purchase or get 
a set of gaskets for a Lister SL-3?   Maybe other parts later after I 
get into the engine.  I'm located in the western part of the USA.


Regards,


Bob Rolfness
WA, USA



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 18 14:45:56 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:45:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318164019.0304ea70@pop3.wcoil.com>

  Hi All,
  This isn't gas engine but there is a lot of interest anyways, would 
anyone have any information on this steam mill engine model?  Is this a 
model of an actual full size machine or is it a model for a models sake?

2" stroke
1.5" bore
8.5" flywheel.

http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill2.jpg
http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill3.jpg
http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill4.jpg

Thank You,   Mark


Mark & Christine Shulaw
Bluffton, Ohio
Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
Home #419.358.5206





From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Mar 18 14:32:02 2008
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:32:02 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
Message-ID: <c31.2a4e5c24.35118ed2@aol.com>

Kerry,
 
Great looking engine!  They sure run nice too!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germaoamer at AOL.com




**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL 
Home.      
(http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 18 16:18:19 2008
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:18:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318164019.0304ea70@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <02b601c8894e$5b659ee0$210110ac@FAMILY>

Beautiful engine Mark, I wish it was mine.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model


>  Hi All,
>  This isn't gas engine but there is a lot of interest anyways, would 
> anyone have any information on this steam mill engine model?  Is this a 
> model of an actual full size machine or is it a model for a models sake?
> 
> 2" stroke
> 1.5" bore
> 8.5" flywheel.
> 
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill2.jpg
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill3.jpg
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill4.jpg
> 
> Thank You,   Mark
> 
> 
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> Bluffton, Ohio
> Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
> Home #419.358.5206
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Tue Mar 18 18:19:07 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:19:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
References: <47DFDDBE.1090307@atnet.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c8895f$3b9b6fc0$e6d84c0c@D48VHZ61>

This guy lists Lister gaskets on his ebay store site, don't know for how old 
of an engine. Also mentions some of his gaskets interchange on other 
engines--didn't see your model listed. Might be worth a look.
www.gasketstogo.com

John Hall

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob W7AVK" <rsrolfne at atnet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set


> Good Day - Anyone point me in the direction where I can purchase or get
> a set of gaskets for a Lister SL-3?   Maybe other parts later after I
> get into the engine.  I'm located in the western part of the USA.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Bob Rolfness
> WA, USA
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 18 21:30:31 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:30:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
In-Reply-To: <02b601c8894e$5b659ee0$210110ac@FAMILY>
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318164019.0304ea70@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<02b601c8894e$5b659ee0$210110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080318232519.030c1170@pop3.wcoil.com>

Same here, I'm trying to make it mine.   Mark

At 06:18 PM 3/18/08, you wrote:
>Beautiful engine Mark, I wish it was mine.
>
>Paul
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
>To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>Cc: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:45 PM
>Subject: [SEL] Mill Engine Model
>
>
> >  Hi All,
> >  This isn't gas engine but there is a lot of interest anyways, would
> > anyone have any information on this steam mill engine model?  Is this a
> > model of an actual full size machine or is it a model for a models sake?
> >
> > 2" stroke
> > 1.5" bore
> > 8.5" flywheel.
> >
> > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill2.jpg
> > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill3.jpg
> > http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/mill4.jpg
> >
> > Thank You,   Mark
> >
> >
> > Mark & Christine Shulaw
> > Bluffton, Ohio
> > Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
> > Home #419.358.5206
> >
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 19 00:26:02 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:26:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1205856002.12642.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319092243.00bc3080@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 18/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 10
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:20:30 -0700
>From: Bob W7AVK <rsrolfne at atnet.net>
>Subject: [SEL] WTB: Lister SL-3 Gasket Set
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <47DFDDBE.1090307 at atnet.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Good Day - Anyone point me in the direction where I can purchase or get
>a set of gaskets for a Lister SL-3?   Maybe other parts later after I
>get into the engine.  I'm located in the western part of the USA.
>Regards,
>Bob Rolfness
>WA, USA

Hi Bob,
         The SL3's were made between 1958 and 1966 ald Lister-Petter 
probably still offer parts.
Go here to find a dealer in your region:
<http://www.lister-petter.com/region_selector.php?region1=namerica>


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From edwards_service at westnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 00:43:02 2008
From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:43:02 +0900
Subject: [SEL] Austral Web Pages
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>

Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be 
starting to restore next, missing parts if you know of any spares around, i 
am curious with regards to the heating lamp, is it a two or three burner, i 
have one not sure if it is the right one, i think i will not be painting 
mine, cheers,
Chester from West Aussie.



> G'Day all
>
> Not as fancy as Robs great pages but if you are interested I have finished
> the restoration of my 8hp Austral over Christmas and FINALLY did the page
> which can be seen at
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austral.html
>
> Thanks for looking
>
> Kerry
>
> Lithgow NSW OZ
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 01:55:50 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:55:50 +1100
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
In-Reply-To: <019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC>
	<019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
Message-ID: <F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>

G'Day Chester

An 8 hp has a 3 burner lamp, best of luck with the restoration

Kerry

> Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be
> starting to restore next, missing parts if you know of any spares around, 
> i
> am curious with regards to the heating lamp, is it a two or three burner, 
> i
> have one not sure if it is the right one, i think i will not be painting
> mine, cheers,
> Chester from West Aussie.
>
>



From brock at netspeed.com.au  Wed Mar 19 02:56:10 2008
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:56:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Message-ID: <47e0e33a.7b.7470.1261739118@netspeed.com.au>

Happy birthday Edd hope it was a good one 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cam grundy" <ponchie at ozemail.com.au>
To: "SEL list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] Birthday
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:59:39 +1100

> Happy birthday Mate for your 60th, hope there is plenty
> more to come. Cheers  Cam
> Cam and Edwina Grundy
> Kariong 2250
> New South Wales
> Australia. 
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 19 10:57:40 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:57:40 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319194010.00bcce50@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Sorry about the "Off Topic" post (again) but I know from 
experience that the members of these lists have a combined "knowledge pool" 
greater than all other lists combined. Not only that but, they're also the 
most helpful guys I know.

         I have a friend who has an IHC pickup/truck/ute/bakkie (depending 
on your language). It's about 3/4 ton.

         He's been asking me for ages to do some signs for the doors but is 
being quite specific - his brief is as follows:

"When this truck was new it had a very old sign on the door which I took 
photographs of but which I currently cannot find.  It was a circular sign 
and it said something like "International Harvester Field 
Service".   Obviously this truck was used by International Harvester to 
provide on farm service.  You might want to do a bit of research on this 
and if you can come up with what appears to be the right signage (if you 
send it to me I will recognise it) and then I will get you to make special 
decals for it.  In the meantime I will see if I can find these photographs 
which cannot be far away."

         Can any of you super knowledgeable members help me out here with 
pics or even a description of what this signage may possibly have looked like.

         I know it's a "long shot" but I'd appreciate any input. If anyone 
can help, it's you guys.

         Thanks in advance.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 19 11:13:10 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:13:10 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319201125.00bc82b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
	I just found a link to the truck mentioned in my last post for those who 
care to have a look:

<http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/news/htn187_International_Harvester/htn187_Int_H_C.htm>



From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Wed Mar 19 11:39:23 2008
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:39:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
Message-ID: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>

I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina


From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Mar 19 12:57:11 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:57:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319201125.00bc82b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEGCGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

Wow!  I had a truck almost identical to that one.  Mine was a T100 and had the Silver Diamond 220 engine and the first-year Warner automatic tranny.

The truck was given to me to get it out of the way.  I rebuilt the engine, replaced the king pins and brakes and used it for about ten years to haul firewood.  It was pretty beat-up when I got it and even more beat up when I sold it for $500, still running fine.  I think I cleared about $300 over my cost.

One thing I remember clearly was that since this was the first year for the automatic, there as an instruction decal on the dash.  The decal read: "AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.  To go forward, step on the accelerator.  To stop, step on the brake."

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 01:13 PM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 	I just found a link to the truck mentioned 
> in my last post for those who 
> care to have a look:
> 
> <http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/news/ht
> n187_International_Harvester/htn187_Int_H_C.htm>




From w3ecu at netscape.net  Wed Mar 19 12:43:04 2008
From: w3ecu at netscape.net (w3ecu at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:43:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
In-Reply-To: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>
References: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>
Message-ID: <8CA5810956EA44C-DE4-1A3@webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com>

Merton- saw your dilema. I am looking at a new igniter for my 5 hp Bulldog. See if you can give me the bolt to bolt measurement and I'll see if my igniter would work. Also, I may have a lead on someone who can make the igniter. Rich in Delmar, De.


-----Original Message-----
From: Merton Canady <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 2:39 pm
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor



I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I emailed 
Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one to copy from. 
Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? Thanks Merton from 
Eastern North Carolina
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 13:56:08 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:56:08 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
References: <000a01c889f0$8fba3280$2a647dcc@Merton>
Message-ID: <001901c88a03$a8a3c820$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller 
should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link to 
the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
Hope this helps.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor


>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I 
>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one to 
>copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? 
>Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 14:03:48 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:03:48 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Fw:  Bulldog Ignitor
Message-ID: <002d01c88a04$bac64f40$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

Sending again.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor


> Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller 
> should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link to 
> the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
> Hope this helps.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>
>
>>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I 
>>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one 
>>to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? 
>>Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
> 




From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 14:10:19 2008
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:10:19 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Fw:  Bulldog Ignitor
Message-ID: <003d01c88a05$a3ddc9b0$5dd6ecdc@Edd>

> http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
TRY AGAIN.TRY THIS ..EDD.

EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:07 AM
Subject: Fw: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor


> http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
>
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
> To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:03 AM
> Subject: Fw: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>
>
>> Sending again.
>> EDD PAYNE
>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>> Australia
>> 2852
>> Phone:0263742387
>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>> edsengns
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>>
>>
>>> Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller 
>>> should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link 
>>> to the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> EDD PAYNE
>>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>>> Australia
>>> 2852
>>> Phone:0263742387
>>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>>> edsengns
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
>>> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
>>> Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I 
>>>>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one 
>>>>to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to 
>>>>spare? Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 




From George_Best at adp.com  Wed Mar 19 14:18:52 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:18:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?

I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the
show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two
years.

Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no EHOWT.
Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)



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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Mar 19 16:14:12 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:14:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
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	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi George,

I plan to be there.  I think Jim & Dolly are too; possibly also Jim's twin
brother Andy.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?
> 
> I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the
> show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two
> years.
> 
> Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no EHOWT.
> Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)




From George_Best at adp.com  Wed Mar 19 16:33:04 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:33:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

You "Think Jim & Dolly" will be there ????
You make it sound like you may be going to Nuenen by yourself! ;-) I
doubt that. 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
fero_ah at city-net.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:14 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Cc: Dolly French
Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008

Hi George,

I plan to be there.  I think Jim & Dolly are too; possibly also Jim's
twin brother Andy.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?
> 
> I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the

> show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two 
> years.
> 
> Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no
EHOWT.
> Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)


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From edward.tabor at zoominternet.net  Wed Mar 19 18:08:10 2008
From: edward.tabor at zoominternet.net (Edward Tabor)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:08:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>

If you think of it, call me with a physical address for the place in 
Annapolis. Have not received pictures you emailed.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?


> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring? 
> Thanks.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
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From edwards_service at westnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 18:26:59 2008
From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:26:59 +0900
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
	<F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>

Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a 
row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?, also 
who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
Chester.



> G'Day Chester
>
> An 8 hp has a 3 burner lamp, best of luck with the restoration
>
> Kerry
>
>> Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be
>> starting to restore next,>> am curious with regards to the heating lamp,
is it a two or three burner,
>> i
>> have one not sure if it is the right one,
>>, cheers,
>> Chester from West Aussie.
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed Mar 19 19:15:09 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:15:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com>
	<3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>
Message-ID: <F971BE4D-4AF8-456C-9CB2-EC8F260DE171@alltel.net>

Hi Ed, Is a "physical address" different than a meta-physical  
address? Is it simply lower, or is it different in kind?
	Dave

On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Edward Tabor wrote:

> If you think of it, call me with a physical address for the place in
> Annapolis. Have not received pictures you emailed.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:47 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
>
>
>> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tommy Turner


From briwatt at optusnet.com.au  Wed Mar 19 21:57:17 2008
From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:57:17 +1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester>
	<F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>
	<009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
Message-ID: <47E1EEAD.00000C.02976@FRED>

Hi Chester,
Try John The Tankman, he makes the tin Shroud for the Austral Blowlamp 
Photos are on the site below.we run our 8HP. Austral using a single Burner
Lamp,no problems,
 
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x279/john_the_tankman/
 
David Watts (03) 87616332
damewatt at bigpond.com
Brian Watts (03) 97266147
briwatt at optusnet.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat
 
 
 
From: Chester Smith
Date: 20/03/2008 12:33:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
 
Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a
row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?, also
who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
Chester.
 
 
 
> G'Day Chester
>
> An 8 hp has a 3 burner lamp, best of luck with the restoration
>
> Kerry
>
>> Hi Kerry, nice engine i have just picked up a 1922 8hp, that i will be
>> starting to restore next,>> am curious with regards to the heating lamp,
is it a two or three burner,
>> i
>> have one not sure if it is the right one,
>>, cheers,
>> Chester from West Aussie.
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 
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From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Thu Mar 20 00:43:27 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:43:27 +1100
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
In-Reply-To: <009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester><F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC>
	<009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
Message-ID: <927DF9D01E724A408105905FB77E384A@KerryPC>

G'Day Chester

You have the correct burner
My handle is original and John Gilbert made the cover using my stuffed 
original
He now has the pattern for both
John Gilbert
Merbein, Vic, Australia
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x279/john_the_tankman/
ph 03-50253372

Kerry



> Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a
> row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?, 
> also
> who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
> Chester.
>



From edwards_service at westnet.com.au  Thu Mar 20 01:01:14 2008
From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:01:14 +0900
Subject: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp
References: <F050C36509EE4149BE1746ED43CD2C43@KerryPC><019701c88994$dd2edc20$210110ac@Chester><F54E495386D941E38EFFF81FC6089F09@KerryPC><009701c88a29$8022ddc0$210110ac@Chester>
	<927DF9D01E724A408105905FB77E384A@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <010101c88a60$92ea9600$210110ac@Chester>

Thanks a lot guys.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 8 hp Austral lamp


> G'Day Chester
>
> You have the correct burner
> My handle is original and John Gilbert made the cover using my stuffed
> original
> He now has the pattern for both
> John Gilbert
> Merbein, Vic, Australia
> http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x279/john_the_tankman/
> ph 03-50253372
>
> Kerry
>
>
>
>> Thanks Kerry, the lamp i have is a three burner, the burners are not in a
>> row, they are next to each other in a curcular pattern, is this right?,
>> also
>> who made your lamp cover,handle ?, cheers,
>> Chester.
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 03:46:49 2008
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:46:49 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Fw:  Bulldog Ignitor
In-Reply-To: <002d01c88a04$bac64f40$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
References: <002d01c88a04$bac64f40$5dd6ecdc@Edd>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W109DB73BBA29D7AA4039AD0000@phx.gbl>


Hi,on the subject of Bulldogs,can anyone tell me about the Bullpup? Was it a smaller version? A friend of mine has found the remains of an engine with Bullpup on the side.    John
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:03:48 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Fw: Bulldog Ignitor> > Sending again.> EDD PAYNE> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W> Australia> 2852> Phone:0263742387> edsengns at optusnet.com.au> edsengns> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:56 AM> Subject: Re: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor> > > > Hi .there is a pic on the late Ted Brookover ign id page.Donnie Miller > > should have Teds sample ign as he got all of Teds stuff.Here is a link to > > the pic.http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-bulldog.JPG> > Hope this helps.> > EDD PAYNE> > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W> > Australia> > 2852> > Phone:0263742387> > edsengns at optusnet.com.au> > edsengns> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>> > To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM> > Subject: [SEL] Bulldog Ignitor> >> >> >>I have a Bulldog 2 1/2 Horizonal engine that needs an ignitor setup. I > >>emailed Donnie Miller and he says for him to make one , he will need one > >>to copy from. Any other ideas or does anybody have an extra one to spare? > >>Thanks Merton from Eastern North Carolina> >> _______________________________________________> >> SEL mailing list> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> >>> > > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Mar 20 10:00:14 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <1206032414.47e2981e1afdc@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi George,

Well, I do have a paper to present and a session to chair at the Reactor
Dosimetry Symposium, so I figger, what the hell, let's do Neunen too.  8-))
http://safelife.jrc.nl/ISRD/

You know, the ol' "combine business and pleasure routine."

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> You "Think Jim & Dolly" will be there ????
> You make it sound like you may be going to Nuenen by yourself! ;-) I
> doubt that. 




From George_Best at adp.com  Thu Mar 20 10:16:43 2008
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:16:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <1206032414.47e2981e1afdc@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com><20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654BFCA@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1206032414.47e2981e1afdc@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590654C84E@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>

Although it was tempting last night.  After thinking about it more, I
think I'll skip Nuenen this year.

As it was working out I would basically be in Holland only 72 hours.
Arriving Saturday around noon and departing on Tuesday around noon.

Better to to plan on it for next year when the show is a few weeks later
and I could also be gone for a longer period of time.

George



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
fero_ah at city-net.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:00 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2008

Hi George,

Well, I do have a paper to present and a session to chair at the Reactor
Dosimetry Symposium, so I figger, what the hell, let's do Neunen too.
8-)) http://safelife.jrc.nl/ISRD/

You know, the ol' "combine business and pleasure routine."

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>:

> You "Think Jim & Dolly" will be there ????
> You make it sound like you may be going to Nuenen by yourself! ;-) I 
> doubt that.


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Mar 20 12:09:02 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:09:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  O.T. IHC Truck question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1206028802.12789.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320205214.00bd32e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 20/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:57:11 -0500
>From: "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>Jerry:
>Wow!  I had a truck almost identical to that one.  Mine was a T100 and had 
>the Silver Diamond 220 engine and the first-year Warner automatic tranny.
>
>The truck was given to me to get it out of the way.  I rebuilt the engine, 
>replaced the king pins and brakes and used it for about ten years to haul 
>firewood.  It was pretty beat-up when I got it and even more beat up when 
>I sold it for $500, still running fine.  I think I cleared about $300 over 
>my cost.
>
>One thing I remember clearly was that since this was the first year for 
>the automatic, there as an instruction decal on the dash.  The decal read: 
>"AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.  To go forward, step on the accelerator.  To 
>stop, step on the brake."
>
>Take care - Elden

Hi Elden,
         Thanks for the reply. Interesting about the decal - but on a new 
(revolutionary) thing like "automatic transmission" in those days it was 
probably very necessary. Imagine "Billy Bob" and his brother "Billy Bob" 
fighting about which pedal to step on !


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Mar 20 12:15:44 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:15:44 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 48, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1206028802.12789.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320211234.00bce710@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 20/03/2008, you wrote:
>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:18:52 -0500
>From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>Who on this list is going to the Nuenen show in May?
>
>I'm trying to make a last minute deal with my wife to let me go TO the
>show. Its just killing me to not go after being there the last two
>years.
>
>Would probably arrive on Friday and return home on Tuesday, so no EHOWT.
>Maybe next year another EHOWT! ;-)

Hi George,
         I was hoping to be there but, due to circumstances beyond my 
control it looks like I may not be able to go,
         I may only get to Europe in about September - are there any shows 
then.?

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Mar 20 12:36:35 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:36:35 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320205214.00bd32e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV1182E734AA2E4BC28A8050BB000@phx.gbl>

Jerry as previously mentioned,  go to 
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/index.asp

and search for pickup...lot's of hits..may help.

IHC's in my day were known as Cornbinders...anything red especially the 
pickups were called "Cornbinders," and this tradition is still be used.  I 
can't find it but there's a cornbinder club on the U.S. left side.  Maybe 
someone can help.

Good Luck,
RickinMt. 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Mar 20 14:40:52 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:40:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Neunen 2008
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320211234.00bce710@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080320211234.00bce710@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <1206049252.47e2d9e4412da@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jerry,

How about THE SHOW at the end of August?
http://www.gdsf.co.uk/

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>:

>          I was hoping to be there but, due to circumstances beyond my 
> control it looks like I may not be able to go,
>          I may only get to Europe in about September - are there any shows 
> then.?




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 01:04:30 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:04:30 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
Message-ID: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>

The revised videos are now running:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm

or

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm

You may need to adjust your video player screen manually if it doesn't
do it automatically.

The menu thumbnails give file #, size and approximate running times.

I have run all of the videos from the menus with no problems, but let
me know if you have any 'no-shows' or problems.

The older and larger videos have been deleted.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Mar 21 06:03:22 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:03:22 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E3B21A.7020706@xplornet.com>

Hello Peter,
	I can't thank you enough for the effort into this. They download fine 
for me using XP and Firefox. I should mention video #55 seesm to be 
turned on it's side.

Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> The revised videos are now running:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
> 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Mar 21 07:13:44 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:13:44 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

VERY good!  Thanks!

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> Listerdiesel
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 03:05 AM
> To: Stationary-Engine; SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
> 
> 
> The revised videos are now running:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/Vide
oQKMenu.htm

or

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm

You may need to adjust your video player screen manually if it doesn't
do it automatically.

The menu thumbnails give file #, size and approximate running times.

I have run all of the videos from the menus with no problems, but let
me know if you have any 'no-shows' or problems.

The older and larger videos have been deleted.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 21 06:28:31 2008
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:28:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>


Beautiful job, Peter!  I have watched them since I turned on my computer this morning. Thanks for the work. Steve
_________________________________________________________________
Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes.
http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Mar 21 06:52:19 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:52:19 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>

Morning Guys,
	Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have side 
view pictures of it?
	A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have side 
view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the 
pictures.
	Thanks.
Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> The revised videos are now running:
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
> 
> or
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
> 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 07:43:29 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:43:29 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> Morning Guys,
>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have side
>  view pictures of it?
>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have side
>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>  pictures.
>         Thanks.
>
> Rupert
>

Ryder Hot-Air engine I believe, Rupert.

The engine firing noises on the soundtrack are NOT from this engine.

#50 and #55 are both laying on one side as they were too tall and thin
to get in the frame, unless I was so far away you wouldn't see
anything.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 07:45:37 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:45:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803210745i6774f439sa2639abac5f569d4@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/03/2008, Steve Royster <steve_royster at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Beautiful job, Peter!  I have watched them since I turned on my computer this morning. Thanks for the work. Steve
>

Hope you enjoyed the Charity Auction shots?

I'll have a bit more experience with the video camera this year, so
they should be better still.

Still pictures from Portland 2007 are on the website in the Trip
Reports section.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net  Fri Mar 21 09:13:50 2008
From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (armstrong)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:13:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001701c88b6e$8fc86ec0$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5>

Very Good Peter.          George
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; 
<SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:04 AM
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos


> The revised videos are now running:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
>
> or
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/VideoClips/VideoQKMenu.htm
>
> You may need to adjust your video player screen manually if it doesn't
> do it automatically.
>
> The menu thumbnails give file #, size and approximate running times.
>
> I have run all of the videos from the menus with no problems, but let
> me know if you have any 'no-shows' or problems.
>
> The older and larger videos have been deleted.
>
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> 




From ddotto at cableone.net  Fri Mar 21 09:40:50 2008
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:40:50 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>

It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.

Dave

Dave Otto
Boise, Idaho



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos

On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> Morning Guys,
>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
side
>  view pictures of it?
>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
side
>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>  pictures.
>         Thanks.
>
> Rupert
>

Ryder Hot-Air engine I believe, Rupert.

The engine firing noises on the soundtrack are NOT from this engine.

#50 and #55 are both laying on one side as they were too tall and thin
to get in the frame, unless I was so far away you wouldn't see
anything.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 21 09:58:19 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:58:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com><OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBIEIGGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com><BAY144-W40B0F14198CB1447C4BAB95010@phx.gbl>
	<6f6025160803210745i6774f439sa2639abac5f569d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002901c88b74$c46faf20$6801a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

I got a half  dozen of them running at the same time , and they keep craning 
their knecks wantin to know "whutthell is that ?"


Chuck Balyeat
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri Mar 21 10:20:07 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:20:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <001701c88b6e$8fc86ec0$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<001701c88b6e$8fc86ec0$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5>
Message-ID: <295952D5-D20E-4B5B-B508-3AC4575EFE3E@alltel.net>

On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:13 PM, armstrong wrote:

> Very Good Peter.          George

Hi George, In the future it would be best to put a comma between  
"Good" and "Peter." Keep in mind that there are some from KA on this  
list and they may misunderstand!


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 14:09:38 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:09:38 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Dobbie McInnes Engine Indicator information sought.
Message-ID: <6f6025160803211409j508e72d4uce9cb4f12e054a08@mail.gmail.com>

We have been in contact with a gent whose father worked at Dobbie
McInnes in the late 1940's and early 1950's, and was involved in the
design side as well as being assistant works manager.

He is after some information, and I have quoted his first email in full below:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My late father worked for Dobbie McInnes in 1947-51, as assistant works
> manager and co-head of development.  As I inherited the interest in the
> company, I've been trying to date individual instruments on the basis of
> serial number.  I have little doubt that, with a few exceptions, the
> indicators were numbered in a single sequence.
>
> I noticed that you show an early Design No. 1 with what looks like the old
> McInnes logo in the vulcanite sheathing.  I suspect these indicators
> pre-date 1903, but have only seen one (DS1 1693).  Do you know if yours has
> a lower number than this?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

We have a small collection of indicators, and two are the DS1 units. One is in
the 7000's serial number, but the other one was serial 735, nicely below John's
known unit.

I know a few of us have indicators secreted away somewhere, could you check and
see what the type and serial numbers are please?

A typical DS1 unit is at:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Indicator/Indicator19.jpg

Note the McInnes name moulded into the vulcanite at the base. The serial number
is stamped into the top face around the other side of the main nickel-plated
arm, usually in two places.

Any information given is for John's personal use only, and I can give John's
email address to anyone who doesn't want to make their own unit's details
public.

John has also been back to us since then regarding details of the
other units that we hold, including a motorised recorder and the
Schaeffer-Budenberg unit that we bought at the Woodlands swap meet
back in 2003.

Many thanks,

Peter




























-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Mar 21 14:41:46 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:41:46 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f6025160803210104i5b0ae6a2s24f45e20662fecc9@mail.gmail.com>	<47E3BD93.9040704@xplornet.com>
	<6f6025160803210743v54f9fff0wbb7bfea08f9361fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E42B9A.2090502@xplornet.com>

Thanks Peter,
	I downloaded them and then turned them. They view great doing that with 
my set up.

Rupert

Listerdiesel wrote:
> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>> Morning Guys,
>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have side
>>  view pictures of it?
>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have side
>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>  pictures.
>>         Thanks.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
> 
> Ryder Hot-Air engine I believe, Rupert.
> 
> The engine firing noises on the soundtrack are NOT from this engine.
> 
> #50 and #55 are both laying on one side as they were too tall and thin
> to get in the frame, unless I was so far away you wouldn't see
> anything.
> 
> Peter

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Fri Mar 21 15:17:28 2008
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:17:28 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Dobbie McInnes Engine Indicator information sought.
References: <6f6025160803211409j508e72d4uce9cb4f12e054a08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c88ba1$5e93f710$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

Just as a matter of interest ,a friend found a complete Performance 
Indicator on the local rubbish tip the other day ,it is of German make still 
in it's box.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; 
<SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:09 AM
Subject: [SEL] Dobbie McInnes Engine Indicator information sought.


> We have been in contact with a gent whose father worked at Dobbie
> McInnes in the late 1940's and early 1950's, and was involved in the
> design side as well as being assistant works manager.
>
> He is after some information, and I have quoted his first email in full 
> below:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> My late father worked for Dobbie McInnes in 1947-51, as assistant works
>> manager and co-head of development.  As I inherited the interest in the
>> company, I've been trying to date individual instruments on the basis of
>> serial number.  I have little doubt that, with a few exceptions, the
>> indicators were numbered in a single sequence.
>>
>> I noticed that you show an early Design No. 1 with what looks like the 
>> old
>> McInnes logo in the vulcanite sheathing.  I suspect these indicators
>> pre-date 1903, but have only seen one (DS1 1693).  Do you know if yours 
>> has
>> a lower number than this?
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> We have a small collection of indicators, and two are the DS1 units. One 
> is in
> the 7000's serial number, but the other one was serial 735, nicely below 
> John's
> known unit.
>
> I know a few of us have indicators secreted away somewhere, could you 
> check and
> see what the type and serial numbers are please?
>
> A typical DS1 unit is at:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Indicator/Indicator19.jpg
>
> Note the McInnes name moulded into the vulcanite at the base. The serial 
> number
> is stamped into the top face around the other side of the main 
> nickel-plated
> arm, usually in two places.
>
> Any information given is for John's personal use only, and I can give 
> John's
> email address to anyone who doesn't want to make their own unit's details
> public.
>
> John has also been back to us since then regarding details of the
> other units that we hold, including a motorised recorder and the
> Schaeffer-Budenberg unit that we bought at the Woodlands swap meet
> back in 2003.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Mar 22 10:11:58 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:11:58 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>


  G'day all;
  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any 
info...possibly rebadged.

http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view

Happy Easter,
RickinMt. 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat Mar 22 11:31:35 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:31:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133019.034a3b70@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Rick, old iron heaven gives me this message when I get there.
  "You are not authorised to download this attachment."            Mark


At 12:11 PM 3/22/08, you wrote:

>   G'day all;
>   Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any
>info...possibly rebadged.
>
>http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>
>Happy Easter,
>RickinMt.
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat Mar 22 11:38:16 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:38:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133732.034a4120@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Rick, I just went ahead and registered on the site. It will be a while 
before registration is confirmed.     Mark


At 12:11 PM 3/22/08, you wrote:

>   G'day all;
>   Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any
>info...possibly rebadged.
>
>http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>
>Happy Easter,
>RickinMt.
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 10:43:07 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:43:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221043v5ff7c273w1f9ca0f8c163f2ee@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>   G'day all;
>   Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any
>  info...possibly rebadged.
>
>  http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>
>  Happy Easter,
>  RickinMt.
>

"You are not authorised to download this attachment."

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From kerogas at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 22 10:57:43 2008
From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:57:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20080322133019.034a3b70@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c88c46$3b3e5800$6801a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b>

, I just went ahead and registered on the site. It will 
/////////////////////////////////////////
Worked yesterday without it . I have #4 with the wee Superior looped & 
running ,  right now in the showroom . Beats the hell out of muzak radio .



Chuck Balyeat 
http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm




 


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 11:01:17 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:01:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133732.034a4120@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20080322133732.034a4120@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221101h15163e37j1dd3a718dc2d286f@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:
> Hi Rick, I just went ahead and registered on the site. It will be a while
>  before registration is confirmed.     Mark
>

We registered a while ago, haven't heard anything back since, must be
'persona non grata' there.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Mar 22 11:51:38 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:51:38 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>

Let's try the last 3 pictures on my webshots album;

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562705587GjZSFZ

The first two have been ID'd as Wade dragsaw crank and flywheel.

Thanks much for looking
Rick

 


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 12:25:18 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:25:18 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221225y40ac6255t37a50b1758ae242f@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
> Let's try the last 3 pictures on my webshots album;
>
>  http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562705587GjZSFZ
>
>  The first two have been ID'd as Wade dragsaw crank and flywheel.
>
>  Thanks much for looking
>  Rick
>

Neat looking engine, there's a lot of 'Lister' in those flywheels.
Standard Scale Co., was that the maker, distributor/dealer?

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Mar 22 12:45:23 2008
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:45:23 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl><BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
	<6f6025160803221225y40ac6255t37a50b1758ae242f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV5C8696357F4E456342F0CBB020@phx.gbl>

Peter, SSS is what the tag says and it's listed in the BPB, but only shows a 
horizontal and doesn't mention vertical.   Lister has been mentioned and 
also re-badge.  The funnel is part of the casting, does have a fuel pump, 
H&M, and he believes valve cages are used.  Little lever on the carb. says 
"Start, Run."

Thanks much,
Rick


> >
>
> Neat looking engine, there's a lot of 'Lister' in those flywheels.
> Standard Scale Co., was that the maker, distributor/dealer?
>
> Peter 



From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sat Mar 22 14:05:14 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:05:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen
 Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>
References: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>
Message-ID: <47E5748A.6040700@xplornet.com>

Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.

Rupert

Dave Otto wrote:
> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
> 
> Dave
> 
> Dave Otto
> Boise, Idaho
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
> 
> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>> Morning Guys,
>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
> side
>>  view pictures of it?
>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
> side
>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>  pictures.
>>         Thanks.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
> 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From jdohagan at comcast.net  Sat Mar 22 14:59:06 2008
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:59:06 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080322215929.13084444837@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com>

Hi Rick, It looks like a IDEAL made in Lansing Mich. And rebadged.  Cya,
Jimmy O'Hagan

Jim O'Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Strobel
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:12 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine


  G'day all;
  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any 
info...possibly rebadged.

http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view

Happy Easter,
RickinMt. 

_______________________________________________
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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 15:10:19 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:10:19 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine


> 
>  G'day all;
>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would appreciate any 
> info...possibly rebadged.
> 
> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
> 
> Happy Easter,
> RickinMt. 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Mar 22 15:27:54 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:27:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <B1762640-93A0-4EBA-B506-A19E8BC8C933@alltel.net>

Come on Reg. Think about it. If you could download the attachment it  
would no longer be a MYSTERY!
	Dave


On Mar 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:

> Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
>
>
>>
>>  G'day all;
>>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would  
>> appreciate any
>> info...possibly rebadged.
>>
>> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>>
>> Happy Easter,
>> RickinMt.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 15:41:38 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:41:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:
	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
References: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>
	<47E5748A.6040700@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen 
Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine


> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>
> Rupert
>
> Dave Otto wrote:
>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Dave Otto
>> Boise, Idaho
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Listerdiesel
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>
>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>> Morning Guys,
>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>> side
>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
>> side
>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>>  pictures.
>>>         Thanks.
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>
> --
> yvt
>
> Rupert Wenig
> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>
> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 15:45:39 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:45:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl><008701c88c69$885ead60$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<B1762640-93A0-4EBA-B506-A19E8BC8C933@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <00de01c88c6e$86607a20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Duh! That never crossed my mind!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Mystery engine


> Come on Reg. Think about it. If you could download the attachment it  
> would no longer be a MYSTERY!
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:
> 
>> Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  G'day all;
>>>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would  
>>> appreciate any
>>> info...possibly rebadged.
>>>
>>> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
>>>
>>> Happy Easter,
>>> RickinMt.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From ddotto at cableone.net  Sat Mar 22 18:07:48 2008
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:07:48 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:Wide-Screen
	Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <000101c88c82$5018d160$0201a8c0@three82b2bb9a2>

Hi Reg

I'm intrigued with the Kessler Hot Air engine that you built; do you have
any history on it? Are the ones that you built 1/2 size.

I was also wondering about the crank; does the power piston have two rods or
is the extra throw used for something else?

Thanks, Dave

P.S. any prints available?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of R & M Ingold
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:42 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:Wide-
> Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
> 
> There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen
> Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
> 
> 
> > Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
> >
> > Rupert
> >
> > Dave Otto wrote:
> >> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a
> model
> >> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> Dave Otto
> >> Boise, Idaho
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Listerdiesel
> >> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
> >> To: The SEL email discussion list
> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
> >>
> >> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
> >>> Morning Guys,
> >>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
> >> side
> >>>  view pictures of it?
> >>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone
> have
> >> side
> >>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with
> the
> >>>  pictures.
> >>>         Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Rupert
> >>>
> >>
> > --
> > yvt
> >
> > Rupert Wenig
> > Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
> >
> > email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
> >
> > http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> 
> 
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Mar 22 20:28:51 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:28:51 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
Message-ID: <20080322.192852.1740.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
Here are a few pictures I took of Don Hunter's Holt today.
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/Holt111

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 22 20:34:28 2008
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:34:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
Message-ID: <05ca01c88c96$cfed2f30$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW>

Hey gang
 
Just got back from a quick trip to Kansas City; saw something I think
was really neat.
 
There was a small ?steam shovel? (though it may not be steam powered;
boom & bucket design are similar to HYPERLINK
"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu pictureHYPERLINK
"http://www.olivertractors.ca/1925%20Steam%20Shovel.JPG") that sits just
off the ramp when you leave north bound I-35 to get onto east bound I
70.  I could be wrong on the location; I did go both ways thru that
interchange; about 90% sure I?m right but possibly could be on the ramp
leaving 70 to get back onto southbound 35.  I believe it?s probably only
about half the size of the one in the link though.  It?s in a
construction company yard (obviously as a display) & you?d have to get
onto one of the regular streets & preferably into their yard to take pix
I?d think.   
 
Is anyone close to this that might be able to get info & pix for me?  It
just looks SO NEAT!  No idea if I?ll ever get back that way with fuel
prices where they are.
 
Thanks. 
 
Lew Best near Waco, TX
 

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From oiseming at moscow.com  Sat Mar 22 20:51:35 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:51:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
In-Reply-To: <20080322.192852.1740.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <200803230352.m2N3plSb065077@mail-gw.fsr.net>

I am impressed!  I didn't think there was such a thing as a Holt steam
traction engine.  

Thank you for sharing the pictures.  

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:29 PM
To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com;
at at lists.antique-tractor.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.

Hi all.
Here are a few pictures I took of Don Hunter's Holt today.
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/Holt111

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0





From gibsongus at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 22 21:33:02 2008
From: gibsongus at earthlink.net (Gus)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:33:02 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was
	Re:	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
Message-ID: <26808528.1206246782232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hey Reg that thomas&smith engine looks very nice, you do good work...
Gus at gibsongus at myway.com
-----Original Message-----
>From: R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>Sent: Mar 22, 2008 2:41 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re:	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>
>There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
>Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen 
>Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>
>
>> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
>> Dave Otto wrote:
>>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
>>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave Otto
>>> Boise, Idaho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Listerdiesel
>>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>>> Morning Guys,
>>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>>>  pictures.
>>>>         Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Rupert
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> yvt
>>
>> Rupert Wenig
>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>
>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
>> _______________________________________________
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sat Mar 22 21:40:06 2008
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:40:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
Message-ID: <410-2200830234406640@earthlink.net>

Hey Lew, I see it there all the time when I travel to go to my inlaws.  It
has been there many years and I have taken the side street just to get a
closer look at it.  Never have stopped to inquire about it though.  It is
very small, about the size of a large pickup truck.  It is located halfway
between the Jackson and Benton curves (famous curves for rollovers since
they are so tight) on I-70 just on the eastside of downtown KCMO.  I would
love to have it here at the house.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Lew Best <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>; SEL <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 3/22/2008 10:34:29 PM
> Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
>
> Hey gang
 
Just got back from a quick trip to Kansas City; saw something I think
was really neat.
 
There was a small ?steam shovel? (though it may not be steam powered;
boom & bucket design are similar to HYPERLINK
"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu pictureHYPERLINK
"http://www.olivertractors.ca/1925%20Steam%20Shovel.JPG") that sits just
off the ramp when you leave north bound I-35 to get onto east bound I
70.  I could be wrong on the location; I did go both ways thru that
interchange; about 90% sure I?m right but possibly could be on the ramp
leaving 70 to get back onto southbound 35.  I believe it?s probably only
about half the size of the one in the link though.  It?s in a
construction company yard (obviously as a display) & you?d have to get
onto one of the regular streets & preferably into their yard to take pix
I?d think.   
 
Is anyone close to this that might be able to get info & pix for me?  It
just looks SO NEAT!  No idea if I?ll ever get back that way with fuel
prices where they are.
 
Thanks. 
 
Lew Best near Waco, TX
 

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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Mar 22 22:04:44 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:04:44 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: wasRe:	Wide-Screen
	Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
References: <26808528.1206246782232.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c88ca3$898dd230$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Thanks Gus.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gus" <gibsongus at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: wasRe: Wide-Screen 
Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine


> Hey Reg that thomas&smith engine looks very nice, you do good work...
> Gus at gibsongus at myway.com
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>>Sent: Mar 22, 2008 2:41 PM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: 
>>Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>>
>>There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
>>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
>>Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen
>>Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
>>
>>
>>> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>> Dave Otto wrote:
>>>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a 
>>>> model
>>>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Dave Otto
>>>> Boise, Idaho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Listerdiesel
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>>>
>>>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Morning Guys,
>>>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>>>> side
>>>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone 
>>>>> have
>>>> side
>>>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with 
>>>>> the
>>>>>  pictures.
>>>>>         Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> yvt
>>>
>>> Rupert Wenig
>>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>>
>>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>>
>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Mar 22 23:48:38 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:48:38 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
Message-ID: <20080322.224839.1352.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Orrin.  More of the story can be found here: 
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42517

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:51:35 -0700 "Orrin Iseminger"
<oiseming at moscow.com> writes:
> I am impressed!  I didn't think there was such a thing as a Holt 
> steam
> traction engine.  
> 
> Thank you for sharing the pictures.  
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Orrin
> 
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.   


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar 23 00:16:29 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:16:29 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was
 Re:	Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <003801c88b72$52e65ae0$0601a8c0@SHOP>	<47E5748A.6040700@xplornet.com>
	<00bb01c88c6d$e637a730$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <47E603CD.4090406@xplornet.com>

Hello Reg,
	You do nice work. Thanks for posting the link to your site.

Rupert

R & M Ingold wrote:
> There is one of the models on my website. in the model section
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rupert" <rwenig2 at xplornet.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:05 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine: was Re: Wide-Screen 
> Portland Show Videos, Hot Air Engine
> 
> 
>> Thanks. I sent Paul a note asking about it.
>>
>> Rupert
>>
>> Dave Otto wrote:
>>> It's a Thomas & Smith hot air pumping engine; if you want to make a model
>>> Paul Jacobs sells a casting kit for it.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave Otto
>>> Boise, Idaho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Listerdiesel
>>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:43 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wide-Screen Portland Show Videos
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2008, Rupert <rwenig2 at xplornet.com> wrote:
>>>> Morning Guys,
>>>>         Video #50 sue has lots of action. What is it? Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it?
>>>>         A miniature of it would be interesting to make. Does anyone have
>>> side
>>>>  view pictures of it? A measurement or two would be nice to go with the
>>>>  pictures.
>>>>         Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Rupert
>>>>
>> --
>> yvt
>>
>> Rupert Wenig
>> Camrose, Alberta, Canada.
>>
>> email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
>>
>> http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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> 
> 

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 23 07:16:10 2008
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:16:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
In-Reply-To: <410-2200830234406640@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <004401c88cf0$78776770$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW>

Hey Tim

Yeah; I figured out my "location description" was wrong; it's on the
Truman cutoff (my girlfriend's sister lives in that area); we took the
Truman cutoff twice so I got to feast my eyes on it twice  :)  I'd love
to have it here too!

Lew
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Christoff
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:40 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel

Hey Lew, I see it there all the time when I travel to go to my inlaws.
It
has been there many years and I have taken the side street just to get a
closer look at it.  Never have stopped to inquire about it though.  It
is
very small, about the size of a large pickup truck.  It is located
halfway
between the Jackson and Benton curves (famous curves for rollovers since
they are so tight) on I-70 just on the eastside of downtown KCMO.  I
would
love to have it here at the house.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Lew Best <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>; SEL
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 3/22/2008 10:34:29 PM
> Subject: [SEL] maybe a bit OT-steam shovel
>
> Hey gang
 
Just got back from a quick trip to Kansas City; saw something I think
was really neat.
 
There was a small ?steam shovel? (though it may not be steam powered;
boom & bucket design are similar to HYPERLINK
"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu"http://tinyurl.com/2ay3yu pictureHYPERLINK
"http://www.olivertractors.ca/1925%20Steam%20Shovel.JPG") that sits just
off the ramp when you leave north bound I-35 to get onto east bound I
70.  I could be wrong on the location; I did go both ways thru that
interchange; about 90% sure I?m right but possibly could be on the ramp
leaving 70 to get back onto southbound 35.  I believe it?s probably only
about half the size of the one in the link though.  It?s in a
construction company yard (obviously as a display) & you?d have to get
onto one of the regular streets & preferably into their yard to take pix
I?d think.   
 
Is anyone close to this that might be able to get info & pix for me?  It
just looks SO NEAT!  No idea if I?ll ever get back that way with fuel
prices where they are.
 
Thanks. 
 
Lew Best near Waco, TX
 

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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Mar 22 13:31:49 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:31:49 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DAV5C8696357F4E456342F0CBB020@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY113-DAV13E9EE5A386D384B40CE5ABB020@phx.gbl>
	<BAY113-DAV129D31C990B9FC05FF9BF1BB020@phx.gbl>
	<6f6025160803221225y40ac6255t37a50b1758ae242f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY113-DAV5C8696357F4E456342F0CBB020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803221331w37d749dxec947a3318afc265@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/03/2008, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
> Peter, SSS is what the tag says and it's listed in the BPB, but only shows a
>  horizontal and doesn't mention vertical.   Lister has been mentioned and
>  also re-badge.  The funnel is part of the casting, does have a fuel pump,
>  H&M, and he believes valve cages are used.  Little lever on the carb. says
>  "Start, Run."
>
>  Thanks much,
>
> Rick
>

The block and hopper are definitely not Lister, but the flywheels have
a 'family resemblance' for want of a better word.

Lister also used valve cages, as did a lot of engine makers, but their
use died out after better lubrication and valve guide material came
along. Cost of production and assembly was quite high as well.

BYB says they handled Novo engines, which is what I would guess at as
its ancestry, Standard Scale were only agents according to C H W.

It does look sweet!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From oiseming at moscow.com  Sun Mar 23 11:28:51 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:28:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
In-Reply-To: <20080322.224839.1352.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <200803231829.m2NIT0lP008204@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Thank you, Ron, for that link!  I'm astonished!  Now, I want to get down to
Woodlawn more than ever.  

My engine club buddies and I helped load up ship out all the attachments and
accessories for the Holt combine that has now been restored to ground-power
and will be pulled by mules during the show.  We have some "sweat equity" in
it and have more than a casual interest in the machine. 

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:49 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.

Hi Orrin.  More of the story can be found here: 
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42517

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:51:35 -0700 "Orrin Iseminger"
<oiseming at moscow.com> writes:
> I am impressed!  I didn't think there was such a thing as a Holt 
> steam
> traction engine.  
> 
> Thank you for sharing the pictures.  
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Orrin
> 
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.   
_______________________________________________




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 23 13:02:10 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:02:10 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Holt steam traction engine.
In-Reply-To: <200803231829.m2NIT0lP008204@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <20080322.224839.1352.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<200803231829.m2NIT0lP008204@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803231302gf0332c6l2cd1caf206c324a2@mail.gmail.com>

On 23/03/2008, Orrin Iseminger <oiseming at moscow.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Ron, for that link!  I'm astonished!  Now, I want to get down to
>  Woodlawn more than ever.
>
>  My engine club buddies and I helped load up ship out all the attachments and
>  accessories for the Holt combine that has now been restored to ground-power
>  and will be pulled by mules during the show.  We have some "sweat equity" in
>  it and have more than a casual interest in the machine.
>
>  Best regards,
>
>  Orrin
>

We have been over to the Heidrick Agricultural Museum a couple of
times now, they have a very large collection of Best/Holt/Caterpillar
stuff there, and well worth a look if you are over near Sacremento. If
you go to the Woodland Swap meet, it is quite close.

1962 Hays Lane, Woodland, CA 95776 (530) 666-9700
http://www.aghistory.org/cgi-bin/default.asp

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 23 13:07:49 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:07:49 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Venn-Severin Engines
Message-ID: <6f6025160803231307p353256d4ycf5b219fd175f596@mail.gmail.com>

We have had a contact from the family of Theodore Venn, and have been
offered a copy of one of their 1935 sales brochure to put onto our
websites. We are arranging for our friends in Phoenix to do a scan for
us, as that is where the brochure is at present and the family doen't
want to let is go too far out of their hands.

One of things mentioned in the email was that Venn-Severin had big
problems with crankshafts breaking during the war years, and that the
company assets went to Mahindra in India after WWII.

Does anyone have anything to add to this,  or any corrections?

We already had a small page of V-S engines on our websites from a
catalogue that we bought, it would be nice to have more information to
go with the pictures.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From edward.tabor at zoominternet.net  Sun Mar 23 13:26:47 2008
From: edward.tabor at zoominternet.net (Edward Tabor)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:26:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
In-Reply-To: <F971BE4D-4AF8-456C-9CB2-EC8F260DE171@alltel.net>
References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com><3B4019958BAD47759AC90304DD6260C9@EdToshiba2>
	<F971BE4D-4AF8-456C-9CB2-EC8F260DE171@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <81969A910208441DAEBFB79CBF5F5DEF@EdToshiba2>

In my job we deal with a lot of Post Office Box numbers.  really is hard to 
find someplace with a P.O.Box.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?


> Hi Ed, Is a "physical address" different than a meta-physical
> address? Is it simply lower, or is it different in kind?
> Dave
>
> On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Edward Tabor wrote:
>
>> If you think of it, call me with a physical address for the place in
>> Annapolis. Have not received pictures you emailed.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:47 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD?
>>
>>
>>> Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD?  Anyone on
>>> the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar 23 14:23:28 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:23:28 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2008
In-Reply-To: <1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <6f6025160801021523j5d1a8a96j92289c5ed2545909@mail.gmail.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AA77@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<6f6025160801030801p2b1ff01dn4d702726c6ffc9c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590584AEFC@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0801031421210.16349@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590652307D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<1205968452.47e19e44536e6@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803231423y613643d5s2255cf77ac3d4631@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/03/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> Hi George,
>
>  I plan to be there.  I think Jim & Dolly are too; possibly also Jim's twin
>  brother Andy.
>
>  See ya,  Arnie
>

We've just booked the ferry.... see you there :-))

Petr
-- 
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From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 23 19:51:44 2008
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (Derek)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:21:44 +1030
Subject: [SEL] Venn-Severin Engines
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160803231307p353256d4ycf5b219fd175f596@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c88d5a$020b57d0$02c9ae3a@chaosaffdac3c5>

http://www.outlookbusiness.com/print.aspx?articleid=156&editionid=16&catgid=
73&subcatgid=490

In the mid-'40s, M&M acquired Chicago-based diesel engine manufacturer Venn
Severin Machine. Palit was given the task of shifting the plant lock, stock
and barrel to India. He spent three years in the US. Unfortunately,
government permissions to shift the plant did not come through.


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 6:38 AM
To: Stationary-Engine; SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Venn-Severin Engines


We have had a contact from the family of Theodore Venn, and have been
offered a copy of one of their 1935 sales brochure to put onto our websites.
We are arranging for our friends in Phoenix to do a scan for us, as that is
where the brochure is at present and the family doen't want to let is go too
far out of their hands.

One of things mentioned in the email was that Venn-Severin had big problems
with crankshafts breaking during the war years, and that the company assets
went to Mahindra in India after WWII.

Does anyone have anything to add to this,  or any corrections?

We already had a small page of V-S engines on our websites from a catalogue
that we bought, it would be nice to have more information to go with the
pictures.

Peter
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 23 22:41:11 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:41:11 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
Message-ID: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I am starting to go through and clean up the engine collection a bit. First
to go is on of my 2hp R&Vs. This is a BL engine built in 1913. It is a
basket case but comes with a lot of new castings. Anyone interested contact
me off list.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Sun Mar 23 22:55:38 2008
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:55:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
References: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <002501c88d73$b186b510$93ad57ca@n>

what do you want for the rv patrick
  mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale


>I am starting to go through and clean up the engine collection a bit. First
> to go is on of my 2hp R&Vs. This is a BL engine built in 1913. It is a
> basket case but comes with a lot of new castings. Anyone interested 
> contact
> me off list.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
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From Peterwoodmore at aol.com  Sun Mar 23 23:03:33 2008
From: Peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peterwoodmore at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:03:33 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
Message-ID: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>

Patrick
Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
Peter Woodmore. 
peterwoodmore at aol.com
Skype name Woadmere   



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Mar 24 01:23:00 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:23:00 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>

Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping & 
shed keeping ;-)))))
Peter, Oz



> Patrick
> Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> Peter Woodmore.
> peterwoodmore at aol.com
> Skype name Woadmere
>
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From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Mar 24 02:49:21 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:49:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>

Patrick think of how much room you will have if you move that big 
12hp out of the way, You could put a few nice pot plants and a 
romantic seat down the side of the house.
Russell


At 07:23 PM 24/03/2008, you wrote:
>Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping &
>shed keeping ;-)))))
>Peter, Oz
>
>
>
> > Patrick
> > Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> > Peter Woodmore.
> > peterwoodmore at aol.com
> > Skype name Woadmere
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
>_______________________________________________
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 24 03:09:39 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:09:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <00a001c88d97$2c50a580$84f1f080$@com.au>

Good onya Russell, you've got it worked Mate. Cam

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Gilbert
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 8:49 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine for sale

Patrick think of how much room you will have if you move that big 
12hp out of the way, You could put a few nice pot plants and a 
romantic seat down the side of the house.
Russell


At 07:23 PM 24/03/2008, you wrote:
>Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping &
>shed keeping ;-)))))
>Peter, Oz
>
>
>
> > Patrick
> > Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> > Peter Woodmore.
> > peterwoodmore at aol.com
> > Skype name Woadmere
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 24 07:01:45 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:01:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>

On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote:
>  You could put a few nice pot plants and a
> romantic seat down the side of the house.
> Russell

Is that legal in OZ?
	Dave


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Mar 24 10:06:54 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:06:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
	<37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080324120116.02f8a1a0@pop3.wcoil.com>




At 09:01 AM 3/24/08, you wrote:
>On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote:
> >  You could put a few nice pot plants and a
> > romantic seat down the side of the house.
> > Russell
>
>Is that legal in OZ?
>         Dave

Good combination, mood enhancement and romantic seating.  At least they 
would have fun while the fun lasted.               Mark





From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Mar 24 14:26:53 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:26:53 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
	<37C491D4-8227-4DF1-8CF2-4167449F4731@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080325082620.02226248@ncable.com.au>

Dave he would probably need to put a fence around it :-)
Russell


At 01:01 AM 25/03/2008, you wrote:
>On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:49 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote:
> >  You could put a few nice pot plants and a
> > romantic seat down the side of the house.
> > Russell
>
>Is that legal in OZ?
>         Dave
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Mar 24 15:05:19 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:05:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
Message-ID: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try 
to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 24 15:20:39 2008
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:20:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c88dfd$4c1620a0$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW>

Hey Tommy

Seems fine here

Lew
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge
Tommy Turner
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try

to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Mar 24 15:22:48 2008
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:22:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
References: <d14.1f570760.35189e35@aol.com>
	<000f01c88d88$5cf88a40$0200a8c0@altech>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20080324204821.0208b2a0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <1206397368.47e829b83487e@webmail.city-net.com>

Ahhhh, it warms the cockles of me heart to see that the fine art of bustin' a
mate's balls is alive and well down under.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>:

> Patrick think of how much room you will have if you move that big 
> 12hp out of the way, You could put a few nice pot plants and a 
> romantic seat down the side of the house.
> Russell
> 
> 
> At 07:23 PM 24/03/2008, you wrote:
> >Looks like a certain little lady friend has taken over the housekeeping &
> >shed keeping ;-)))))
> >Peter, Oz
> >
> > > Patrick
> > > Things must be getting serious with your lady friend
> > > Peter Woodmore.



From wayne at lorenssanitation.com  Mon Mar 24 15:23:15 2008
From: wayne at lorenssanitation.com (Wayne Thackery)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:23:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <000001c88dfd$a791c650$1402a8c0@Waynexp>

Ebay is loading fine for me. Tommy, I notice when you reply all your email
comes in as junk mail or spam.

Good Luck!

Wayne A Thackery
Keizer, Oregon


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try 
to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Mar 24 15:58:41 2008
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:58:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <000001c88dfd$a791c650$1402a8c0@Waynexp>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com> <000001c88dfd$a791c650$1402a8c0@Waynexp>
Message-ID: <47E83221.9060105@scrtc.com>

Wayne,
    Filters must be recognizing my email address as trash.  I've been 
accused of being that by some folks.  I did a bit of research and found 
some info that Ebay has been doing some updates and there could be 
delays.  I just went to ebay and it loaded fine.  I guess I've just 
tried to access it at the wrong time.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



Wayne Thackery wrote:

>Ebay is loading fine for me. Tommy, I notice when you reply all your email
>comes in as junk mail or spam.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>Wayne A Thackery
>Keizer, Oregon
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy
>Turner
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:05 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
>
>Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to 
>load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try 
>to load.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
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>
>
>  
>


From b2 at chooka.net  Mon Mar 24 16:37:48 2008
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:37:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <000801c88e08$17555510$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>

I think they are having some server issues.  I'm listing things right now
and once in a while will get an error from their server that a page is not
available at this time.  Retry and it comes up.  Performance is just
spotty...from good to unavailable.

B?

Bill Brueck
   Chatfield, Minnesota, USA

Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?

Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to load
and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try to load.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Mar 24 17:43:48 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:43:48 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <20080325004338.WDBT18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

The reason the engine is going is that I recently picked up a much better
2hp R&V (it runs) and I have a puppy to pay for (and make room for). I don't
see any need for duplicate engines when I have so little space to begin
with.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 25 02:39:05 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:39:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] R&V vertical engine information wanted
Message-ID: <006a01c88e5c$5eecece0$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi All
Do any of you guys that keep your fingers on the pulse auction wise, have 
any idea what price a complete 2 1/2hp vertical R&V would bring. The is the 
vertical mounted ignitor model.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From nancydick at pennswoods.net  Tue Mar 25 04:06:36 2008
From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:06:36 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine for sale
In-Reply-To: <20080325004338.WDBT18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080324054102.CFVT17232.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<20080325004338.WDBT18721.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <20080325110638.84879229AE6@md5.pennswoods.net>

Patrick you have a lot more space than you are using. Just think up 
space is almost unlimited.
R Fink
PA



At 11:43 AM 3/25/2008 +1100, you wrote:

>The reason the engine is going is that I recently picked up a much better
>2hp R&V (it runs) and I have a puppy to pay for (and make room for). I don't
>see any need for duplicate engines when I have so little space to begin
>with.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Mar 25 05:05:03 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:05:03 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engine clean out
Message-ID: <001501c88e70$754e82a0$0200a8c0@altech>

Hi all Aussies    

I am cleaning out too, this is the first one to go..
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/wolseley/index.htm

Mates get first offer before Ebay, email me OFF LIST plowe at exemail.com.au


Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Mar 25 10:11:11 2008
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:11:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ebay Problem?
In-Reply-To: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
References: <47E8259F.30104@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080325121049.033fd820@pop3.wcoil.com>

Sounds like they are making changes for the worse again.   Mark


At 05:05 PM 3/24/08, you wrote:
>Is anyone having trouble loading or accessing Ebay?  Its really slow to
>load and maneuver.  I don't find this problem with any other sites I try
>to load.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
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Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From paul at internalfire.com  Tue Mar 25 11:09:36 2008
From: paul at internalfire.com (Paul Evans)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:09:36 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
Message-ID: <47E93FE0.30908@internalfire.com>

We finally got the Pelapone running!

Purchased and restored with a donation from the SEL in 2005 she has 
taken a while to sort but ran for the first time on the evening of 
Easter Sunday.

She then ran several times during the day at the museum crankup on 
Easter Monday.

Video on Youtube at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk

She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this year in June and will 
be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.

Paul & Hazel

-- 

Internal Fire Museum of Power

Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS

http://www.internalfire.com



From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Mar 25 14:09:17 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:09:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
In-Reply-To: <47E93FE0.30908@internalfire.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEOOGLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Paul:

All I can say to that is.........YEEEEEEEE   HAWWWWWWW!

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Paul Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 01:10 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
> 
> 
> We finally got the Pelapone running!
> 
> Purchased and restored with a donation from the 
> SEL in 2005 she has 
> taken a while to sort but ran for the first time 
> on the evening of 
> Easter Sunday.
> 
> She then ran several times during the day at the 
> museum crankup on 
> Easter Monday.
> 
> Video on Youtube at 
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk
> 
> She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this 
> year in June and will 
> be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.
> 
> Paul & Hazel
> 
> -- 
> 
> Internal Fire Museum of Power
> 
> Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS
> 
> http://www.internalfire.com




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Mar 25 16:05:57 2008
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:05:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
References: <47E93FE0.30908@internalfire.com>
Message-ID: <000601c88ecc$c8d6ebe0$726f4b47@mikecomp>

Great job, proud of you all!

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Evans" <paul at internalfire.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone


> We finally got the Pelapone running!
> 
> Purchased and restored with a donation from the SEL in 2005 she has 
> taken a while to sort but ran for the first time on the evening of 
> Easter Sunday.
> 
> She then ran several times during the day at the museum crankup on 
> Easter Monday.
> 
> Video on Youtube at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk
> 
> She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this year in June and will 
> be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.
> 
> Paul & Hazel
> 
> -- 
> 
> Internal Fire Museum of Power
> 
> Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS
> 
> http://www.internalfire.com
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Wed Mar 26 11:09:43 2008
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:09:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
Message-ID: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>

Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle a 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have a museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant stationary steam engines in the world. 

But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod Engine Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.  This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.

Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply that by a dozen. 

The building has been set aside for preservation, and the Tod Engine Foundation has stepped in to provide assistance in stabilizing the engines and eventually returning one to operation.  We held a work session a couple of weeks ago and plan another one for April 19 and 20.  Our immediate goal is to improve the appearance of the engines, clean up the building and secure it as best we can. 

If you would like to come out and lend a hand I'll post more info. about that later.  In the meantime here are a few pictures of the engines on our website.

http://www.bethengines.org

Its good to be back on the SEL. :-)

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Foundation
"Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
2261 Hubbard Road
Youngstown, OH 44505
330-272-4089
www.todengine.org
http://todengine.blogspot.com/



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 11:19:11 2008
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:19:11 +0000
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <6f6025160803261119m23af6fdeo7c10ea1897d21147@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/03/2008, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle a 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have a museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant stationary steam engines in the world.
>
>  But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod Engine Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.  This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.
>

<snipped>

What can be said?  absolutely fantastic!

Well done, Rick and welcome back.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Mar 26 14:27:31 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:27:31 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  SEL Pelapone
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1206547202.24153.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080326231023.00bc68e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 26/03/2008, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:09:36 +0000
>From: Paul Evans <paul at internalfire.com>
>Subject: [SEL] SEL Pelapone
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <47E93FE0.30908 at internalfire.com>
>
>We finally got the Pelapone running!
>
>Purchased and restored with a donation from the SEL in 2005 she has
>taken a while to sort but ran for the first time on the evening of
>Easter Sunday.
>
>She then ran several times during the day at the museum crankup on
>Easter Monday.
>Video on Youtube at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-XtI4qRmsuk
>She will be attending the 1000 Engine Rally this year in June and will
>be carrying a "Thankyou" plaque to the list.
>Paul & Hazel
>Internal Fire Museum of Power

Hi Paul,
         Awesome - I'd love to see it. My mate just recently got a twin 
cyl. running and it sounds really great (a bit like a John Deere tractor - 
just better - especially when he just "touches" the throttle).

         Those barrels seem to be exactly the same (just more on yours) as 
Nevilles twin and also look very similar to the barrel on my Wolseley Type 
"R" (circa 1928). Interesting that it seemed a "popular" design at the time 
and many manufacturers "copied" it.

         Is this the engine that Arnie asked us (members of the SEL)  to 
donate the equivalent of a weeks supply of beer to a year or so back - If 
so, I'm glad that my beer went to a good cause!

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From bigtime64 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 26 15:42:53 2008
From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:42:53 +0000
Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319194010.00bcce50@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080319194010.00bcce50@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <BAY139-W13D63FB495B5C7210DAFD1B4FF0@phx.gbl>


I have asked around a couple of the IH guys around here and so far this is what I have gotten back.  If I get more information I will pass it along.  
 
Since the original inquiry seems to have originated in S. Africa I wonder if this may have been a local thing that wouldn't have been seen around here. Even though the Company was global for decades, things were still marketed locally unlike the one flavor mentality today.
 
There is a guy in MO that has a tremendous knowledge of IH trucks. When this guy goes to the big salvage yard in the sky there will be a big void in IH Truck history. Someone should sit down with him and write a book before it is too late. If it's been around, he's probably seen it or heard of it. 
 
VANCE GARAGE 2832 Market Street, Hannibal, MO 63401 
573-221-7767 
Pappy Vance lots of parts, no Scouts
 
Ed Herreid
Trevor Wisconsin> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:57:40 +0200> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> From: jerrye at databak.co.za> Subject: [SEL] O.T. IHC Truck question> > Hi Guys,> Sorry about the "Off Topic" post (again) but I know from > experience that the members of these lists have a combined "knowledge pool" > greater than all other lists combined. Not only that but, they're also the > most helpful guys I know.> > I have a friend who has an IHC pickup/truck/ute/bakkie (depending > on your language). It's about 3/4 ton.> > He's been asking me for ages to do some signs for the doors but is > being quite specific - his brief is as follows:> > "When this truck was new it had a very old sign on the door which I took > photographs of but which I currently cannot find. It was a circular sign > and it said something like "International Harvester Field > Service". Obviously this truck was used by International Harvester to > provide on farm service. You might want to do a bit of research on this > and if you can come up with what appears to be the right signage (if you > send it to me I will recognise it) and then I will get you to make special > decals for it. In the meantime I will see if I can find these photographs > which cannot be far away."> > Can any of you super knowledgeable members help me out here with > pics or even a description of what this signage may possibly have looked like.> > I know it's a "long shot" but I'd appreciate any input. If anyone > can help, it's you guys.> > Thanks in advance.> > Keep the revs up (or down)> Jerry Evans> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:> www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From johnculp at btes.tv  Wed Mar 26 17:38:01 2008
From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:38:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <13d226c2b71bbf72a096c5dd102cc868@btes.tv>

Man, that's awesome! Wish I could help, but I'm pretty tied down here 
now.

Welcome back to the List, Rick!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA




From ddotto at cableone.net  Wed Mar 26 18:07:52 2008
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:07:52 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Bethlehem Engines
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <000b01c88fa6$fbc76130$0201a8c0@three82b2bb9a2>

Hi Rick

You never seem to have any problem finding projects that run in the hundreds
of tons. I really enjoyed the pictures of the Bethlehem engines. I was using
one for wallpaper on my PC at work and got a lot of comments about it.

Dave

 

PS. Do you still have my patterns? I would still like to have them returned.


Thanks 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:10 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
> 
> Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the
> Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle a
> 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have a
> museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant
> stationary steam engines in the world.
> 
> But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod Engine
> Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a
> group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.
> This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.
> 
> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
> that by a dozen.
> 
> The building has been set aside for preservation, and the Tod Engine
> Foundation has stepped in to provide assistance in stabilizing the engines
> and eventually returning one to operation.  We held a work session a
> couple of weeks ago and plan another one for April 19 and 20.  Our
> immediate goal is to improve the appearance of the engines, clean up the
> building and secure it as best we can.
> 
> If you would like to come out and lend a hand I'll post more info. about
> that later.  In the meantime here are a few pictures of the engines on our
> website.
> 
> http://www.bethengines.org
> 
> Its good to be back on the SEL. :-)
> 
> Rick Rowlands
> Tod Engine Foundation
> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
> 2261 Hubbard Road
> Youngstown, OH 44505
> 330-272-4089
> www.todengine.org
> http://todengine.blogspot.com/
> 
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Thu Mar 27 04:36:08 2008
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:36:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Bethlehem Engines
References: <000b01c88fa6$fbc76130$0201a8c0@three82b2bb9a2>
Message-ID: <04b001c88ffe$c00c5d00$0201a8c0@pengy>

Dave,

The patterns are here.  I'll start shipping them out to you.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Otto" <ddotto at cableone.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: [SEL] Bethlehem Engines


> Hi Rick
>
> You never seem to have any problem finding projects that run in the 
> hundreds
> of tons. I really enjoyed the pictures of the Bethlehem engines. I was 
> using
> one for wallpaper on my PC at work and got a lot of comments about it.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> PS. Do you still have my patterns? I would still like to have them 
> returned.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
>> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:10 PM
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
>>
>> Hello from a long lost friend.  Thirteen years ago several members of the
>> Stationary Engine List spent a winter in Youngstown helping me dismantle 
>> a
>> 260 ton stationary steam engine, and thanks to their efforts we now have 
>> a
>> museum facility in Youngstown that contains one of the largest extant
>> stationary steam engines in the world.
>>
>> But what brings me back to the list is another project that the Tod 
>> Engine
>> Foundation has become involved with, and that is the preservation of a
>> group of internal combustion engines that make the Tod Engine look small.
>> This is the Bethlehem Steel blowing engine house in Bethlehem, PA.
>>
>> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
>> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
>> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
>> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
>> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
>> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
>> that by a dozen.
>>
>> The building has been set aside for preservation, and the Tod Engine
>> Foundation has stepped in to provide assistance in stabilizing the 
>> engines
>> and eventually returning one to operation.  We held a work session a
>> couple of weeks ago and plan another one for April 19 and 20.  Our
>> immediate goal is to improve the appearance of the engines, clean up the
>> building and secure it as best we can.
>>
>> If you would like to come out and lend a hand I'll post more info. about
>> that later.  In the meantime here are a few pictures of the engines on 
>> our
>> website.
>>
>> http://www.bethengines.org
>>
>> Its good to be back on the SEL. :-)
>>
>> Rick Rowlands
>> Tod Engine Foundation
>> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
>> 2261 Hubbard Road
>> Youngstown, OH 44505
>> 330-272-4089
>> www.todengine.org
>> http://todengine.blogspot.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 15:12:05 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:12:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
In-Reply-To: <00de01c88c6e$86607a20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <834871.40435.qm@web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I STILL don't think much of it. 8>))
--- R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:

> Duh! That never crossed my mind!
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Mystery engine
> 
> 
> > Come on Reg. Think about it. If you could download the attachment it  
> > would no longer be a MYSTERY!
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:
> > 
> >> Why send it if I am "Not authorised to download this attachment"?
> >> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> >> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:11 AM
> >> Subject: [SEL] Mystery engine
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>  G'day all;
> >>>  Distant acquaintance just acquired this engine and would  
> >>> appreciate any
> >>> info...possibly rebadged.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.oldironheaven.org/forum/download/file.php?id=574&mode=view
> >>>
> >>> Happy Easter,
> >>> RickinMt.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> SEL mailing list
> >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >>>
> >>
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From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Thu Mar 27 19:10:51 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:10:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Message-ID: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>

 The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer 
something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products 
these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left from 
welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
www.belzona.com

John Hall




From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Thu Mar 27 20:57:32 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:57:32 -0700
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <224985F8-DCAE-4A91-BABC-4A451855941E@rustyiron.com>

On Mar 27, 2008, at 7:10 PM, John Hall wrote:

> The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the  
> products
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids  
> left from
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
>
> John Hall


I concur, John.
Years ago, Joe Prindle sent me some Belzona.  The intended project  
never materialized, but I ended up using it on another, much more  
serious project.

The problem was with a cylinder liner on a headless engine.  There are  
four "ears" on the outside of the cylinder.  Bolts attach to these  
ears and "pull" the liner into the cylinder.  Over-tightening caused  
one ear to crack all the way through the liner.  The result was that  
water from the jacket would enter the cylinder--bad news.

Brazing would have been appropriate, but I always try to take the  
least drastic avenue of repair.  No heat, no distortion.  Besides, I  
felt bad about not completing the other project and felt obligated to  
test the Belzona.

After bead blasting the area, I cut a sheet metal patch that would  
extend about two inches all the way around the crack.  I forced  
Belzona into the crack and painted it all over the area.  Then I laid  
the patch into place and completely covered it in Belzona.

A day later the Belzona was as hard as a rock and the engine was  
reassembled.  That was years ago and many hours have since been put on  
the engine.  It still runs flawlessly and there are no signs of  
leakage into the cylinder or gas bubbles in the cooling water.

Belzona is good stuff.

Rob






From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Mar 28 03:43:32 2008
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:43:32 +0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Message-ID: <032820081043.21524.47ECCBD40009632300005414219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

John & Rob,
Interesting stuff, where can one get some and how does it compare to JB Weld 
in price?
thanks,
Curt Andree


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To:      <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Date:    Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:14:36 +0000

>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer 
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products 
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left from 
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
> 
> John Hall
> 
> 
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Mar 28 04:14:42 2008
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:14:42 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
References: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <002301c890c4$ebdf0330$0200a8c0@altech>

I have used Belzona for 20 years +, I do not know anything about JB Weld, 
but Belzona is rock hard and machines well. I have two 1Kg tubs here.
Peter, Oz




> The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left 
> from
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
>
> John Hall
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From bgrimley at bellsouth.net  Fri Mar 28 07:00:04 2008
From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (bgrimley at bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:00:04 +0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
Message-ID: <032820081400.1568.47ECF9E40005A0930000062022230682329B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net>


FYI:  No luck here - just called the US distributor in Miami and got a price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 1121 from a local sales rep here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity sold - he said it is not sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in another country?


  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------


>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer 
> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the products 
> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left from 
> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
> www.belzona.com
> 
> John Hall
> 
> 
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Mar 28 09:40:30 2008
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:40:30 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Bagnall Diesel Locomotive
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080328181941.00bc5520@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         It's me again with another "Off Topic" post but ultimately it does 
concern an engine ( a dirty great big diesel one).

         This one is aimed at the Brits (Dave Croft & Co. :-))

         I'm looking for a pic or artwork for a "badge" on the front of a 
Bagnall Diesel Locomotive - this one:
         <http://www.sandstone-estates.com/interim/Bagnall/index.html>

         The 4th pic from the top shows a view of the radiator housing - 
there is a "circular" spot on the top of the housing that lends itself to a 
"Badge", "Crest" or "Makers Plate" and the owner wants me to come up with 
something.

         Direct link to the pic is:
<http://www.sandstone-estates.com/interim/Bagnall/Bagnall_Locomotive_Works_No_3204_4.jpg>

(It seems to have broken in half on my mail programme - I'm sure you guys 
will be able to sort it out!

         From my searches on the net I do not believe that there was ever a 
plate there (just, maybe a "headlight")  but they want me to make something 
for that spot and, who am I to complain - "business is business" after all.

         If all else fails I will make a "Fantasy Plate" to fill the spot.

         Thanks in advance.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Mar 28 13:33:29 2008
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:33:29 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
References: <032820081400.1568.47ECF9E40005A0930000062022230682329B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net>
Message-ID: <003e01c89112$fd824130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Compared to what alternatives are available, the likes of us are not going 
to pay their asking price.
I had some donated years ago.
I would never pay that amount when JB does as good a job.
Only industrial purchasing people, who dont care about the money spent, deal 
with this mob.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds


>
> FYI:  No luck here - just called the US distributor in Miami and got a 
> price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 1121 from a local sales rep 
> here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity sold - he said it is not 
> sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in another country?
>
>
>  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" 
> <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------
>
>
>>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
>> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the 
>> products
>> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left 
>> from
>> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
>> www.belzona.com
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Mar 28 16:08:55 2008
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:08:55 -0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compound
Message-ID: <001b01c89128$b315f860$c53e6d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

Hi Guys ,
            I do contract work at a major international oil company who use Belzona on a daily basis for the repair of some pretty major and seriously expensive off shore pumps, and the guys there say that it is very machineable .
    I my self have used it on water jacket repairs an other casting repairs and found it much better than J.B weld, luckily I was given a supply of belzona from an engineer friend .


Cheers , Craig in Scotland

From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Mar 28 17:52:55 2008
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:52:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <003e01c89112$fd824130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGECOGMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Reg and gang:

You might want to take a look at this site.  Devcon is about as good as Belzona (just ask the respective sales reps).

Find a dealer near you.

http://www.devcon.com/products/products.cfm?brandid=1&catid=6

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of R & M
> Ingold
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 03:33 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds
> 
> 
> Compared to what alternatives are available, the 
> likes of us are not going 
> to pay their asking price.
> I had some donated years ago.
> I would never pay that amount when JB does as good a job.
> Only industrial purchasing people, who dont care 
> about the money spent, deal 
> with this mob.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds
> 
> 
> >
> > FYI:  No luck here - just called the US 
> distributor in Miami and got a 
> > price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 
> 1121 from a local sales rep 
> > here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity 
> sold - he said it is not 
> > sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in 
> another country?
> >
> >
> >  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" 
> > <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------
> >
> >
> >>  The next time you need something along the 
> lines of JB-weld but prefer
> >> something more high-tech, you might want to 
> check out some of the 
> >> products
> >> these guys carry. We recently used one at work 
> to fill some voids left 
> >> from
> >> welding and then machined the part smooth. 
> Seems to have worked well.
> >> www.belzona.com
> >>
> >> John Hall
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> SEL mailing list
> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Mar 28 17:22:14 2008
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:22:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <003e01c89112$fd824130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net>

I agree with Reg.  About 20 or 25 years ago a mechanic foreman acquaintance
of mine implemented the use of Belzona to repair cavitation damage to
hydroelectric turbine blades and throat rings.  

That long ago the price was on the order of $1,400 or $1,500 per *quart*.
Even at that, it was a bargain because it was far faster and cheaper to use
it than to air-arc out the damaged material, lay in filler material with
arc-welders, then, grind it all smooth.  

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of R & M Ingold
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:33 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds

Compared to what alternatives are available, the likes of us are not going 
to pay their asking price.
I had some donated years ago.
I would never pay that amount when JB does as good a job.
Only industrial purchasing people, who dont care about the money spent, deal

with this mob.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds

>
> FYI:  No luck here - just called the US distributor in Miami and got a 
> price of $290.00 for 2 kilograms of Belzona 1121 from a local sales rep 
> here in NC - was told this is smallest quantity sold - he said it is not 
> sold in small amounts like JB weld.  Maybe in another country?
>
>  -------------- Original message from "John Hall" 
> <jthall at worldnet.att.net>: --------------
>
>>  The next time you need something along the lines of JB-weld but prefer
>> something more high-tech, you might want to check out some of the 
>> products
>> these guys carry. We recently used one at work to fill some voids left 
>> from
>> welding and then machined the part smooth. Seems to have worked well.
>> www.belzona.com
>>
>> John Hall




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Fri Mar 28 19:09:15 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:09:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>

 I believe we paid $280 for what we bought last week. Like I said originally 
it's a little more high -tech and I'm a firm believer in you get what you 
pay for. If you think its a rip-off you need to consider who it is made 
for--industry. I'd never use it to fix an IH LB or a Fairbanks D (unless I 
already had it on hand), but if I had an engine worth more than a good used 
pickup truck, I don't believe I'd want to patch something important with 
"Elmers" glue. Don't get me wrong, JB-Weld and Loc-weld have their place but 
sometimes you need something better.

 FWIW, we considered something by Devcon but decided this would be better 
for our application. I have looked at Devcon in years past and they appear 
to have some nice products that are considerably cheaper and more readily 
available.

John Hall 



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 29 03:46:31 2008
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:46:31 +0000
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net>
	<004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>


I see Belzona do a bearing compound,wonder if it would substitute brass or babit for mains or big ends on our old slow speed stuff!   John> From: jthall at worldnet.att.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:09:15 -0400> Subject: Re: [SEL] patching compounds> > I believe we paid $280 for what we bought last week. Like I said originally > it's a little more high -tech and I'm a firm believer in you get what you > pay for. If you think its a rip-off you need to consider who it is made > for--industry. I'd never use it to fix an IH LB or a Fairbanks D (unless I > already had it on hand), but if I had an engine worth more than a good used > pickup truck, I don't believe I'd want to patch something important with > "Elmers" glue. Don't get me wrong, JB-Weld and Loc-weld have their place but > sometimes you need something better.> > FWIW, we considered something by Devcon but decided this would be better > for our application. I have looked at Devcon in years past and they appear > to have some nice products that are considerably cheaper and more readily > available.> > John Hall > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Sat Mar 29 18:35:59 2008
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:35:59 +1100 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
In-Reply-To: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
Message-ID: <1188.203.12.35.105.1206840959.squirrel@boiler>

About the biggest side shaft engine I've ever seen. Cool that they're
going to be preserved.

Be careful not to take on too much jeopardising your ability to achieve
your initial main goal of preserving the Tod Engine.

Paul

> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
> that by a dozen.
>




From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Mar 29 22:25:47 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:25:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Show today
Message-ID: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
Once again the Western Antique Power Associates were invited to
participate in the Highland Citrus Festival.
This is located in Highland California, next to San Bernardino.  It was
cool and overcast most of the day, only making it into the mid 60s F.  We
had a nice club turnout and the crowd was the largest I can remember. 
Here are some pictures of our display.  Enjoy.

http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestival2008

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From russell at ncable.com.au  Sun Mar 30 03:55:45 2008
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:55:45 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Show today
In-Reply-To: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
References: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080330215346.02240d38@ncable.com.au>

Ron good to see some nice engines pic's. I'm a bit worried about 
seeing that rope around them engines. Were you expecting a few Aussie 
tourists or something.
Russell


At 04:25 PM 30/03/2008, you wrote:
>Hi all.
>Once again the Western Antique Power Associates were invited to
>participate in the Highland Citrus Festival.
>This is located in Highland California, next to San Bernardino.  It was
>cool and overcast most of the day, only making it into the mid 60s F.  We
>had a nice club turnout and the crowd was the largest I can remember.
>Here are some pictures of our display.  Enjoy.
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestival2008
>
>Ron Haskell
>rdhaskell at juno.com
>Riverside, California USA
>http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 06:14:18 2008
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:14:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <001101c89078$f360ecf0$74f34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Rob-san, 
  (1) Please excuse the delay.  My heart rate is just now slowing down to normal after reading the shipping rate ($10 ) for a $12 T-shirt.  You must have been thinking of shipping it over by that famous air carrier FedSex -- for those who need it over night.  Hang on to the T-shirt.  Keep an eye open for the next ark coming over..  Or better yet, keep an ear open for some engine guy ( and gal ) who plans to take me up on my offer of bed and breakfast to any travelers this way.  Numerous natives from the hinterlands have stayed here from time to time, as have several Kiwis.
  (2)  If you know where to purchase the Belzona, how about buying some for me?  I'll get a check off to you for it and the T-shirt.  Please let me know when.  Thanks, Bill

wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp


From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sun Mar 30 07:16:39 2008
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:16:39 -0600
Subject: [SEL] OT: shipping: was Re:  patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47EFA0C7.6010907@xplornet.com>

	Is that the total fee Fedex charge you? If so, your lucky. I had a 
parcel shipped by Fedex ground a month ago from the US to me in Canada 
with shipping paid up front. The parcel came in about 5 days which is 
fairly fast for cross border shipping. About a month later I got a bill 
from from Fedex for broker fee, government tax, COD fee and some other 
charges which came to more than the original order of under $20 US. UPS 
and Purolator have similar extra charges.
	I find the only reasonable shipper for small orders is USPS. Only have 
to pay our post office a COD (usually $5) and any taxes. Besides, orders 
under $40 usually come through tax free.

Rupert

William Young wrote:
> Rob-san, (1) Please excuse the delay.  My heart rate is just now
> slowing down to normal after reading the shipping rate ($10 ) for a
> $12 T-shirt.  You must have been thinking of shipping it over by that
> famous air carrier FedSex -- for those who need it over night.  Hang
> on to the T-shirt.  Keep an eye open for the next ark coming over..
> Or better yet, keep an ear open for some engine guy ( and gal ) who
> plans to take me up on my offer of bed and breakfast to any travelers
> this way.  Numerous natives from the hinterlands have stayed here
> from time to time, as have several Kiwis. (2)  If you know where to
> purchase the Belzona, how about buying some for me?  I'll get a check
> off to you for it and the T-shirt.  Please let me know when.  Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp 
> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list 
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Sun Mar 30 10:06:24 2008
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:06:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.
References: <041901c88f6c$9164a030$0201a8c0@pengy>
	<1188.203.12.35.105.1206840959.squirrel@boiler>
Message-ID: <072d01c89288$62cdef50$0201a8c0@pengy>

The Tod Engine project will continue unaffected.  The engine is on property 
that we own, and the majority of money for the new building has been raised. 
Construction will begin this spring or summer, depending upon when we get 
permits.

The Bethlehem project may take me away for a few days every couple of 
months, but otherwise I'll still be plugging away in Youngstown every day.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pjp at steamengine.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] I've Returned! And With Even Larger Engines This Time.


> About the biggest side shaft engine I've ever seen. Cool that they're
> going to be preserved.
>
> Be careful not to take on too much jeopardising your ability to achieve
> your initial main goal of preserving the Tod Engine.
>
> Paul
>
>> Inside this building are twelve gas blowing engines.  Eight are tandem
>> double acting engines, while the last four are truly gigantic twin tandem
>> double acting engines with 28' flywheels.  These engines weigh probably
>> close to 1000 tons each and were rated at 5,000 hp.  If you have seen the
>> 600 HP Snow engines at Rollag or Coolspring then you know what these look
>> like, but just imagine something several times larger and then multiply
>> that by a dozen.
>>
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun Mar 30 12:52:39 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:52:39 -0700
Subject: [SEL] no longer patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7985757E-DB6B-45E7-9107-6D2BC69EFEBE@rustyiron.com>


On Mar 30, 2008, at 6:14 AM, William Young wrote:

> Rob-san,
>  (1) Please excuse the delay.  My heart rate is just now slowing  
> down to normal after reading the shipping rate ($10 ) for a $12 T- 
> shirt.  You must have been thinking of shipping it over by that  
> famous air carrier FedSex -- for those who need it over night.  Hang  
> on to the T-shirt.  Keep an eye open for the next ark coming over..   
> Or better yet, keep an ear open for some engine guy ( and gal ) who  
> plans to take me up on my offer of bed and breakfast to any  
> travelers this way.  Numerous natives from the hinterlands have  
> stayed here from time to time, as have several Kiwis.

G'day Wakai-san,
I double-checked;  ten bucks to Nippon is what the USPS quotes for a  
one pound package/envelope.  I'll hold on to the goods until the next  
transient engineman passes through the 'hood.

If you're looking for fun stuff during your next stay, be sure to  
check the calendar:  http://wapa.us/calendar.html   I strongly  
recommend the show on May 4.  It's held at the March Field air  
museum.  The antique truck guys will be there, and it appears that  
there will also be an air show that weekend.

When I've been in the past, at least since it was an active air base,  
there has been no iron in the air.  The flyer shows four strangely  
painted F-16's in a tight formation, so maybe this year the  
Thunderbirds will dazzle us with some precision at high speeds.

?? ????


















From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Mar 30 20:32:22 2008
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:32:22 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Show today
Message-ID: <20080330.193222.1164.6.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 G'day Russell.
With our dollar so low, we are getting more Aussies all the time.  If we
don't put up a couple of ropes they go all crazy putting their fingers in
the gears and things.  Just don't understand it.  <VBG>

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:55:45 +1100 Russell Gilbert
<russell at ncable.com.au> writes:
> Ron good to see some nice engines pic's. I'm a bit worried about 
> seeing that rope around them engines. Were you expecting a few 
> Aussie 
> tourists or something.
> Russell
> 


From falcon at telenet.net  Sun Mar 30 22:23:54 2008
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:23:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] no longer patching compounds
In-Reply-To: <7985757E-DB6B-45E7-9107-6D2BC69EFEBE@rustyiron.com>
References: <796360.57378.qm@web59202.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<7985757E-DB6B-45E7-9107-6D2BC69EFEBE@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <47F0756A.7080307@telenet.net>

  > G'day Wakai-san,
> I double-checked;  ten bucks to Nippon is what the USPS quotes for a  
> one pound package/envelope.  I'll hold on to the goods until the next  
> transient engineman passes through the 'hood.
> 
> If you're looking for fun stuff during your next stay, be sure to  
> check the calendar:  http://wapa.us/calendar.html   I strongly  
> recommend the show on May 4.  It's held at the March Field air  
> museum.  The antique truck guys will be there, and it appears that  
> there will also be an air show that weekend.
> 
> When I've been in the past, at least since it was an active air base,  
> there has been no iron in the air.  The flyer shows four strangely  
> painted F-16's in a tight formation, so maybe this year the  
> Thunderbirds will dazzle us with some precision at high speeds.
> 
> ?????? ????????????


The reason for the price is that they no longer ship small items by ship 
like they used to. They now all go air freight via TA DA- Fed-EX. This 
change occurred about 8 months ago. My BIL lives in Japan and we usually 
send him Christmas presents and other items during the year. The rate 
went WAY up.

The USPS is still the cheaper way though. I priced a parcel with USPS, 
Fed-Ex and UPS and even though the USPS used Fed-Ex the rate was still 5 
bucks cheaper. If you want to save even more, use the postal calculator 
online and pay for everything before you go to the PO, you can print out 
a shipping label and any forms you need and have it ready to go when you 
walk in the door, you will save 5-7 bucks at the least.

-- 
Steve Williams
Firefighter,EMT
VanHornesville Vol. Fire Dept


From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 30 22:36:17 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:36:17 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT: Web authoring on Mac
Message-ID: <20080331053554.GAJO11449.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

A slightly obscure question but almost engine related. I would prefer to
build my web pages on my Macbook Pro rather than my old PC simply because
the Mac is newer and faster and I can work with it anywhere. Does anyone
have any programs they can recommend for the Mac to author my web pages &
manipulate pictures?

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar 30 22:40:14 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:40:14 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Show today
In-Reply-To: <006f01c89233$ba491c00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <20080331053952.HBYG8328.oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

It was a busy weekend for engines. I took my 3.5hp Austral and Ron's 4hp
Austral down to the Canberra Rally on the weekend. They had a good roll up
of engines and a big crowd through the gates on Sunday. I managed to get
sunburnt again but it was a great weekend. I took lots of pics which will be
up on the site some time soon :)
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of R & M Ingold
Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2008 6:00 PM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: Re: Show today

We, the Hunter club, had our annual event this weekend.
A nice little show but there were a lot of other engine,etc.shows on too so 
attendance was down.
I took some pics but there was a bloody great greasy fingerprint on the 
lens! Dunno who could have done that!!
However, the details on the pics are somewhat 'Softened'
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Mar 31 03:45:36 2008
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:45:36 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics
Message-ID: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar 31 03:55:09 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:55:09 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds - JB
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net><004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>

G'Day All

I have used JB weld in an application I have not heard on the List before, 
although I am sure other would have tried it
The JB is standing up well and at this stage has save me the expense of a 
new 5 1/2 in re-sleeve and 4 new rings
see
http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/temporary13.html

Kerry
Lithgow NSW Oz 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Mar 31 06:32:19 2008
From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:32:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds - JB
In-Reply-To: <830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>
References: <200803290022.m2T0MMOq009201@mail-gw.fsr.net><004401c89141$e4248700$24d14c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<BAY121-W948B9C281252B357EB73DD0F80@phx.gbl>
	<830EA4B77C494E9FAFFF4FB0B67CAB73@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <E47B3064-17EF-40FA-B3A8-BB5CB8C295D2@alltel.net>

Hi Kerry, Very nice job. That's an application that I never would  
have believed would work!
	Dave
PS, Don't know if you realize it or not but it was George W. Bush who  
invented JB Weld--just about the same time that ALGORE invented the  
internet!



On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Kerry wrote:

> G'Day All
>
> I have used JB weld in an application I have not heard on the List  
> before,
> although I am sure other would have tried it
> The JB is standing up well and at this stage has save me the  
> expense of a
> new 5 1/2 in re-sleeve and 4 new rings
> see
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/temporary13.html
>
> Kerry
> Lithgow NSW Oz


From oldironnut at alltel.net  Mon Mar 31 07:36:32 2008
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:36:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <6EB8BDB1-12D8-4D95-82FE-410BA04C2086@alltel.net>

Great pictures, Patrick!  Gotta' love that 1899 National!

Mike

On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Patrick M Livingstone wrote:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html

______________________
Michael Tucker
oldironnut at alltel.net
Versailles, Kentucky, USA
______________________





From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 31 11:00:26 2008
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:00:26 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001601c89359$1a8a41e0$4f9ec5a0$@com.au>

Good stuff Patrick, some nice engines down there, thanks. Cam

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick M
Livingstone
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:46 PM
To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List
Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 15:34:41 2008
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Show today
In-Reply-To: <20080329.212547.1116.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <597366.71236.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ron,
Thanks for the pictures of that little show.
Gatherings of that size are fun.
I wish we had more of those here.
I will do some asking around the engine area at the Buckley show 
this year and if I can get other folks interested maybe we can find 
some of the smaller town events that would let some of us set up a display.

After this long Winter here it hurt just a bit to look at that event and not be there. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan




--- rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Once again the Western Antique Power Associates were invited to
> participate in the Highland Citrus Festival.
> This is located in Highland California, next to San Bernardino.  It was
> cool and overcast most of the day, only making it into the mid 60s F.  We
> had a nice club turnout and the crowd was the largest I can remember. 
> Here are some pictures of our display.  Enjoy.
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestival2008
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


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From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 16:47:27 2008
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <597366.71236.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
  Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
  2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
  Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25      
  Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased and used this product.  Comments?
  Bill in Japan
wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp
  SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 31 17:05:53 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:05:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080331200553.5P4WH.24194.root@fepweb08>


---- William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
>   Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
>   2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
>   Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25      
>   Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased and used this product.  Comments?
>   Bill in Japan
Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping compound.
J.B. Castagnos


From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 31 17:06:15 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:06:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
Message-ID: <20080331200615.U913B.24210.root@fepweb08>


---- William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
>   Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
>   2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
>   Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25      
>   Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased and used this product.  Comments?
>   Bill in Japan
Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping compound.
J.B. Castagnos


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon Mar 31 17:27:50 2008
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:27:50 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <831594.12002.qm@web59203.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C9966D9A-5BDE-4C75-B6B0-CFF611D9A2DD@rustyiron.com>


On Mar 31, 2008, at 4:47 PM, William Young wrote:

> FYI,  Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping  
> compound.  After a couple tries I finally received an email response  
> from Newman Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their  
> yellow label product.  I was surprised, to say the least.
>  Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189
>  2  one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits             131
>  Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles              25
>  Total:  $345  a bit much for one con rod bearing.  I may down size  
> to a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually  
> purchased and used this product.  Comments?


I'll give you an old hacksaw blade that can be sharpened so you can  
scrape your own bearings.








From zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz  Mon Mar 31 13:53:14 2008
From: zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz (Arnie)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:53:14 +1300 (New Zealand Daylight Time)
Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field
Message-ID: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98>

Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not 
all vintage 
      Have a look at    www.wovintage.co.nz   and bring up the photo gallery

 
   Regards to all
Arnie Laird       zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz
  Mahia
   NZ

From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Mar 31 17:58:45 2008
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:58:45 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound
In-Reply-To: <C9966D9A-5BDE-4C75-B6B0-CFF611D9A2DD@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <20080331205845.3VPY1.26359.root@fepweb08>


> 
> I'll give you an old hacksaw blade that can be sharpened so you can  
> scrape your own bearings.
> 
> 
Rob, I'm doing a set of main brgs right now, my favorite scraper is a used piston ring. They wear sharp, hold it between your fingers and thumbs and you can rotate it to fit the curve of the bearing,  scrapes an easy to control amount.
J.B. Castagnos


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Mon Mar 31 18:31:17 2008
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:31:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field
References: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98>
Message-ID: <001a01c89398$15c89c80$06d74c0c@D48VHZ61>

Thanks for sharing, very interesting! Especially the last photo--the guy 
driving the JD up the ramps. Appears they had a rather diverse group of 
sizes and brands to turn out for the event. I'll pass it along to teh AT 
list.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie" <zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field


> Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not
> all vintage
>      Have a look at    www.wovintage.co.nz   and bring up the photo 
> gallery
>
>
>   Regards to all
> Arnie Laird       zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz
>  Mahia
>   NZ
> 


From klbandy at dtccom.net  Mon Mar 31 19:37:28 2008
From: klbandy at dtccom.net (Kevin L. Bandy)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:37:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Alexandria, TN Show April 19, 2008
Message-ID: <9D77D0FFAC644F6BB7C7FEFB3137DFBA@KevinPC>

DeKalb Community Bank Antique Tractor & Engine Show
306 Brush Creek Road, Alexandria, TN

Interstate 40, Alexandria exit onto Highway 53 South.  Bank is 7 miles on left.

9am until 2pm

Door prizes, rides for the kids, bluegrass music, quilt show and apple bake-off for the ladies!  Concessions provided by the Alexandria Lions Club.

website: http://bailifffamily.com/dcb/show.htm

Everyone welcome!

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From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon Mar 31 17:19:48 2008
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:19:48 +1100
Subject: [SEL] patching compounds - JB
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G'Day Dave
Oh crap, Now I know the job will not last, I did not realize "W" had 
anything to do with it and I think you are wrong about big AL as he wants us 
to go back to smoke signals.

Made a mistake with the bore size on the 8HP it is 7 1/2 inch with 13 in 
stroke

Kerry


> Hi Kerry, Very nice job. That's an application that I never would
> have believed would work!
> Dave
> PS, Don't know if you realize it or not but it was George W. Bush who
> invented JB Weld--just about the same time that ALGORE invented the
> internet!
>
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