[SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)

Tod Engine Foundation rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com
Thu Jul 10 20:15:08 PDT 2008


Tommy that is quite generous of you.  Thanks so much!!! I will prepare a 
letter of donation and include with it the price quote.  That should be good 
enough to prove value to the IRS.

Rick Rowlands
Executive Director
Tod Engine Foundation
"Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
2261 Hubbard Road
Youngstown, OH  44505
330-272-4089
www.todengine.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <Lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)


> Rick,
>    Will you be at Portland?  I'll bring some and donate it to the Tod
> Project if so.  You can give me a donation receipt from the Tod Foundation
> for it.  Keep a copy of the quote you got for $12.58 as you can allow a
> "documented price" as the donation price to be used.  So, since I'll be
> delivering it, we can use $12.58 per lb.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tod Engine Foundation" <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)
>
>
>>I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered.   I 
>>know
>> I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods
>> someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read
>> says
>> to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need
>> several hundred pounds of new Babbitt.
>>
>> I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have
>> remaining,
>> but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house
>> building
>> up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-(
>>
>> Maybe if you still have it next year...
>>
>> Rick Rowlands
>> Executive Director
>> Tod Engine Foundation
>> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
>> 2261 Hubbard Road
>> Youngstown, OH  44505
>> 330-272-4089
>> www.todengine.org
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" <Lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)
>>
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>    I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you.  I have some NOS
>>> Jackson
>>> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots.  I'd sell it to
>>> you
>>> for $5 / lb.  Its probably worth more than that for scrap.  I bought
>>> about
>>> a
>>> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the
>>> guy
>>> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for 
>>> one
>>> cylinders, Model T's and other applications.  All that have used it are
>>> very
>>> pleased with it.  Here's what it looks like:
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
>>> Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>>> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
>>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM
>>> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a
>>>> few
>>>> points.
>>>>
>>>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The
>>>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How 
>>>> many
>>>> thou. do I allow.?
>>>> 2.  The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing
>>>> where
>>>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The
>>>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the
>>>> end,
>>>> I
>>>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would 
>>>> you
>>>> try
>>>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a
>>>> spiral
>>>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who
>>>> cares
>>>> it
>>>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining
>>>> also.
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm
>>>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical
>>>> R&V
>>>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at:
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit
>>>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Peter Lowe
>>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>>> Australia
>>>> Ph: 61-266453455
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most
>>>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors.
>>>>> Composition:
>>>>> SN - Tin           88.20%
>>>>> AG - Silver       0.10%
>>>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00%
>>>>> CU - Copper    3.05%
>>>>> NI -  Nickel      0 .15%
>>>>> SB  - Antimony 7.50%
>>>>>
>>>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct.
>>>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD,
>>>>> ID
>>>>> & length finish machining.
>>>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ian Hill.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 
>>>> 7/8/2008
>>>> 7:50 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008
>> 6:43 PM
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 





More information about the sel mailing list