[SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)

[Tod Engine Foundation]

I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered.   I know 
I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods 
someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read says 
to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need 
several hundred pounds of new Babbitt.

I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have remaining, 
but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house building 
up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-(

Maybe if you still have it next year...

Rick Rowlands
Executive Director
Tod Engine Foundation
"Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
2261 Hubbard Road
Youngstown, OH  44505
330-272-4089
www.todengine.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" <Lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)


> Peter,
>    I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you.  I have some NOS Jackson
> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots.  I'd sell it to 
> you
> for $5 / lb.  Its probably worth more than that for scrap.  I bought about 
> a
> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the 
> guy
> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for one
> cylinders, Model T's and other applications.  All that have used it are 
> very
> pleased with it.  Here's what it looks like:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM
> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)
>
>
>> Hi All
>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a few
>> points.
>>
>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The
>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How many
>> thou. do I allow.?
>> 2.  The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing
>> where
>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The
>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the end,
>> I
>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would you
>> try
>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a spiral
>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who cares
>> it
>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining
>> also.
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm
>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical 
>> R&V
>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at:
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm
>>
>>
>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit
>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$?
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> Australia
>> Ph: 61-266453455
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Hi Peter
>>>
>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most
>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors.
>>> Composition:
>>> SN - Tin           88.20%
>>> AG - Silver       0.10%
>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00%
>>> CU - Copper    3.05%
>>> NI -  Nickel      0 .15%
>>> SB  - Antimony 7.50%
>>>
>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct.
>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, 
>>> ID
>>> & length finish machining.
>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ian Hill.
>>
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