[SEL] OT, completely: Hydrogen as a fuel personal autos

[Kelley Garcia]

it's no threat to big oil...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/06/01/BUG7RJ5F1T1.DTL

and they are also playing with hydrogen
http://technologyventures.chevron.com/commercialize_tech/hydrogen_energy_stations.asp

and still finding ways and going strong for domestic oil
http://www.innovation-america.org/archive.php?articleID=35


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Kelley Garcia
La habra Kalifornia



On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Tony & Jackie wrote:

> That was a very good read.  I'm far from a scientist, but it doesn't
> take much research for an intelligent person to find that Hydrogen is
> not the answer to a fuel crisis (for those of you who actually
> believe in this "so called" fuel crisis).  Hydrogen and Ethanol seem
> to be the two biggest alternative fuels that are currently being
> shoved down everyone's throat.  It's also interesting to note that
> they are the two that make the least sense.  Ethanol shares quite a
> bit with hydrogen in the fact that it costs more energy to make it
> than is recovered when it is burned.  It also takes very expensive
> mods to run a car on ethanol that was not originally designed for
> it.  And those that are factory designed for ethanol are more
> expensive than their straight gasoline burning counterparts.  Any way
> you slice it, being "green" in the mainstream way comes at a high
> price.  A price that is nothing more than a fashion statement.
>
> It's a shame the USA got away from diesels after the mid 80's,
> otherwise bio-diesel would be a more viable solution.  It is still
> the best alternative fuel option that I have seen.  Also still a good
> option for the USA considering every semi tractor on the road can use
> the stuff with virtually no modifications.  Not to mention all the
> old Mercedes and Volkswagen diesels still running around.  Places
> like Europe are perfect, where something like 70% of the automobiles
> on the road are powered by a diesel engine.  Bio-diesel can be run in
> ANY diesel engine with nothing more than a fuel line change in some
> of the older cars and trucks that still have natural rubber lines.
>
> I guess bio-diesel is too much of a threat to big oil... otherwise we
> might see more of it.
>
> -Tony
>
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