From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 17:52:19 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:52:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down Message-ID: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Is the list down? Paul From astfgl at iamnota.org Sat Aug 2 19:00:53 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:00:53 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down In-Reply-To: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <48951155.3080806@iamnota.org> Yes Paul Maples wrote: > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Aug 2 19:01:03 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:01:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down In-Reply-To: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: It seems to be working. Everyone is just a little quiet! Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Is the list down? Paul _______________________________________________ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:01:25 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:01:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer Message-ID: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Hey Gang, Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film disintegrates? Sorry to bother everyone, Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 2 19:03:51 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:03:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> I'm here Paul. No activity though. You'd think it was Portland week! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 > 5:30 PM > > > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:12:42 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:12:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: Thanks Tommy, I sent out a message over two hours ago and it never came across. I even got a message from the administrator that they had been trying for two hours to deliver it and would try again in two hours. I re-sent the O.T. message and it came right across. Must have been a glitch in cyberspace. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List Down > I'm here Paul. No activity though. You'd think it was Portland week! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Maples" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM > Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down > > >> Is the list down? >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 >> 5:30 PM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:14:01 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:14:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <7269719947594E88948D13AF3ECB35FB@FAMILY> Thanks Patrick, it appears it is up and hitting again. I should not be surprised as this is a hit & miss group. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List Down > It seems to be working. Everyone is just a little quiet! > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > -----Original Message----- > > > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 19:20:23 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:20:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <05b701c8f50f$7d60a760$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Hey Paul There are some on EBay but no idea how good they are. I got pretty good results projecting some on the screen & setting my digital camera on a tripod as close to inline with the projector lens as possible (to prevent distortion) & taking a pic of the screen (flash off of course). It's slow going but works pretty good imho. Lew Best near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Hey Gang, Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film disintegrates? Sorry to bother everyone, Paul _______________________________________________ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 14:52:03 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:52:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner Message-ID: Hey Gang, Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film disintegrates? Sorry to bother everyone, Paul From edstoller at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 19:37:53 2008 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:37:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <002301c8f511$ee684880$3302a8c0@Ed> Hi Paul, I recently bought a scanner made for slides from Costco but have not used it yet. It says " PrimeFilm3650U " and is made by Pacific Image Electronics, Torrance , CA. See: http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&search=Slide%20Scanner&N=0&Ntt=Slide%20Scanner&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hey Gang, > > Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about > 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. > Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had > not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. > > He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that > he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a > copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one > had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. > > Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell > me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film > disintegrates? > > Sorry to bother everyone, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sat Aug 2 19:46:46 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:46:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have > about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was > in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military > buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me > and we had a great visit. > > He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the > war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He > ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I > live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. > > Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing > to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide > film disintegrates? > > Sorry to bother everyone, > > Paul Hi Paul, My scanner will do it. It's an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo scanner. It's pretty old, so I'm CERTAIN there are a slew of equally capable scanners on the shelf at your local computer store. Mine is a typical flat-bed, a little larger than a sheet of paper. The key is that the cover has a light in it. When you scan in negative mode, the light in the TOP turns on, rather than the usual light that is used for scanning opaque paper. The scanner also came with a "frame" into which you can place film or slides. Without pulling it out of a drawer, I would guess that it can do 20 or so slides at a time. The task seems tedious, but it would be worth the effort to preserve delicate film. Rob From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:47:14 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:47:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <05b701c8f50f$7d60a760$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: Well Lew for me that would be another problem as I no longer have a 35mm slide projector. I was hoping that someone had a slide scanner that they had used to scan their slides with and now that they were scanned they no longer needed it and I could buy it. I have talked to some people who tried to use a flat bed scanner with a 35mm slide adaptor and they got very poor results, There has to be a better way to do that spend several hundred dollars which is not laying around in my house at the moment. I will hang loose for a little while and see what, if anymore, suggestions come in from the folks on the list, they have never let me down before and I am betting they will come through this time although this is non-engine related. I appreciate your come back and ideas, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Best" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hey Paul > > There are some on EBay but no idea how good they are. I got pretty good > results projecting some on the screen & setting my digital camera on a > tripod as close to inline with the projector lens as possible (to > prevent distortion) & taking a pic of the screen (flash off of course). > It's slow going but works pretty good imho. > > Lew Best near Waco, TX > > -----Original Message----- > > Hey Gang, > > Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have > about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in > Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, > that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a > great visit. > > He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war > that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me > for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and > no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. > > Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to > sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film > disintegrates? > > Sorry to bother everyone, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Sat Aug 2 19:47:37 2008 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:47:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner Message-ID: <380-2200880324737703@coastalnet.com> Paul, A friend of mine from back in my early days in the AF bought a slide converter from Brookstone, and a little search found what appears to be an identical one at: www.hammacher.com Just do a search for slide scanner. My friend said it was a little bit slow, but the CD he sent contained very nice copies. Take care. Ken From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:49:13 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:49:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> <002301c8f511$ee684880$3302a8c0@Ed> Message-ID: WOW!, Ed you dropped a few bucks I see. I would love to know how well this works even though it is out of my reach at the moment. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hi Paul, > > I recently bought a scanner made for slides from Costco but have not used > it > yet. It says " PrimeFilm3650U " and is made by Pacific Image Electronics, > Torrance , CA. See: > http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&search=Slide%20Scanner&N=0&Ntt=Slide%20Scanner&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Maples" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:01 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about >> 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in >> Vietnam. >> Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had >> not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great >> visit. >> >> He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war >> that >> he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a >> copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one >> had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. >> >> Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to >> sell >> me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film >> disintegrates? >> >> Sorry to bother everyone, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 19:59:19 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:59:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <05bc01c8f514$ee0d4fe0$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> I know the feeling but slide projectors can be had cheap at thrift shops, yard sales, etc. if it comes to that Lew -----Original Message----- Well Lew for me that would be another problem as I no longer have a 35mm slide projector. I was hoping that someone had a slide scanner that they had used to scan their slides with and now that they were scanned they no longer needed it and I could buy it. I have talked to some people who tried to use a flat bed scanner with a 35mm slide adaptor and they got very poor results, There has to be a better way to do that spend several hundred dollars which is not laying around in my house at the moment. I will hang loose for a little while and see what, if anymore, suggestions come in from the folks on the list, they have never let me down before and I am betting they will come through this time although this is non-engine related. I appreciate your come back and ideas, Paul From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 20:01:18 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:01:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <4E4E699FD12044C3A991A10EBB828FA1@FAMILY> Rob the people I talked to that use the flat bed scanner with the 35mm slide adaptor told me that the quality they got was real poor. Have you ever used your scanner to scan slides?, if so how did they come out. Thanks, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > > On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have >> about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was >> in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military >> buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me >> and we had a great visit. >> >> He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the >> war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He >> ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I >> live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. >> >> Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing >> to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide >> film disintegrates? >> >> Sorry to bother everyone, >> >> Paul > > Hi Paul, > My scanner will do it. It's an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo scanner. > It's pretty old, so I'm CERTAIN there are a slew of equally capable > scanners on the shelf at your local computer store. > > Mine is a typical flat-bed, a little larger than a sheet of paper. > The key is that the cover has a light in it. When you scan in > negative mode, the light in the TOP turns on, rather than the usual > light that is used for scanning opaque paper. The scanner also came > with a "frame" into which you can place film or slides. Without > pulling it out of a drawer, I would guess that it can do 20 or so > slides at a time. > > The task seems tedious, but it would be worth the effort to preserve > delicate film. > > Rob > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 20:02:49 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:02:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner References: <380-2200880324737703@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: Ken I saw a couple of these for sale on E-bay but was not sure how well they worked. Is your friend still around where I could e-mail him about this scanner or is this someone in the past? Thanks, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Christison" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner > > Paul, > > A friend of mine from back in my early days in the AF bought a slide > converter from Brookstone, > and a little search found what appears to be an identical one at: > www.hammacher.com Just do > a search for slide scanner. > > My friend said it was a little bit slow, but the CD he sent contained very > nice copies. > > Take care. > > Ken > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat Aug 2 20:19:49 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:19:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer Message-ID: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. Works with Windows XP. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtZfs7tDJxqAvUp49Bj8cWgCDuDoeuzds3ishVbmfZBgzT/ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 20:31:36 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:31:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> This seems like the most economical device, I wish I had some input from someone who has used one. Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I end up with. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 > seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. > Works with Windows XP. > > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for > more info. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtZfs7tDJxqAvUp49Bj8cWgCDuDoeuzds3ishVbmfZBgzT/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sat Aug 2 20:32:18 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:32:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <4E4E699FD12044C3A991A10EBB828FA1@FAMILY> References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> <4E4E699FD12044C3A991A10EBB828FA1@FAMILY> Message-ID: <157E6DE3-D7EE-4570-A264-DF6EB9266C84@rustyiron.com> On Aug 2, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > Rob the people I talked to that use the flat bed scanner with the > 35mm slide > adaptor told me that the quality they got was real poor. Have you > ever used > your scanner to scan slides?, if so how did they come out. Hi Paul, I've used it one time on about five slides, and they came out exceptionally well. Search ebay for "scanner epson 2450" and you might be surprised. From b2 at chooka.net Sat Aug 2 22:07:37 2008 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:07:37 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> References: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> Message-ID: <000f01c8f526$db5bfba0$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local> I think Ron's on the right track, Paul. I scanned a few of my presentations to move to the modern world a few years ago. I used a very common grade flatbed scanner with a little slide scanning adapter, fiddled with the software settings so the scanner concentrated its attention into that specific little corner of the bed, and came up with images that were indistinguishable from the originals when projected on a large screen. Some got better, as I was able to adjust exposure and do a little cropping. But I decided if and when I do all those carousels of slides in the closet that I'd take them to a service or buy some more efficient equipment. It was tedious lining up each slide and scanning it. I've not checked into the price of having someone do it for me but I'd think that with some good equipment one would be pretty time-efficient with the process. Yeah, we'd better all get to this project if we want to preserve the images. When the folks died we found their slides and a lot of them were poor to unviewable at all. I expect it depends upon how well the processor washed the film after developing it. B? Bill Brueck Chatfield, Minnesota, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:32 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer This seems like the most economical device, I wish I had some input from someone who has used one. Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I end up with. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 > seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. > Works with Windows XP. > > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for > more info. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtZfs7tDJxqAvUp49Bj8cWgC DuDoeuzds3ishVbmfZBgzT/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Aug 2 22:35:05 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:35:05 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <001701c8f52a$af821ab0$0200a8c0@KAYE> Oh No, there are no emails, bloody hell, that means there are a whole bunch of guys and gals actually going to SHOWS and enjoying actually running engines ;-)))) The devil made me do it, spending too much time talking to Reg ;-))) Peter. Oz > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 00:18:46 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:18:46 +0100 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <6f6025160808030018r28b4fbecl911c3a3616b7697f@mail.gmail.com> On 03/08/2008, Rob Skinner wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > My scanner will do it. It's an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo scanner. > It's pretty old, so I'm CERTAIN there are a slew of equally capable > scanners on the shelf at your local computer store. > Ours is the Epson 1240U model with the separate slide scanner, same as Robs. It fits a number of the Epson flat-bed scanners, the model of ours is EU-33. The unit has a built-in light souce and a cable that plugs into the back of the scanner for power. There's one on Ebay: 110275859063 Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun Aug 3 02:01:40 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:40 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> <001701c8f52a$af821ab0$0200a8c0@KAYE> Message-ID: <01f701c8f547$8cb6ea20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Well! I AM going to PORTLAND!! Suffer!!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List Down > Oh No, there are no emails, bloody hell, that means there are a whole > bunch > of guys and gals actually going to SHOWS and enjoying actually running > engines ;-)))) > The devil made me do it, spending too much time talking to Reg ;-))) > > Peter. Oz > > > > > >> Is the list down? >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From weolson at wiktel.com Sun Aug 3 04:56:58 2008 From: weolson at wiktel.com (William Olson) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 06:56:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> References: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> Message-ID: <662238108.20080803065658@wiktel.com> Hi Paul, Saturday, August 2, 2008, 10:31:36 PM, you wrote: PM> This seems like the most economical device, I wish I had some input from PM> someone who has used one. PM> Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I end up with. PM> Paul PM> ----- Original Message ----- PM> From: PM> To: PM> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer >> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 >> seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. >> Works with Windows XP. >> Ron Haskell >> rdhaskell at juno.com >> Riverside, California USA >> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell I have used it and it did a very good job. You can also get it through Heartland on line. -- Thanks, William mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 3 05:18:37 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:18:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Message-ID: <1217765917.4895a21d9dd61@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya Folks, Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism student who was working as a summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly paper). He was a real interesting young fella and he's taken a number of reallly good pics. http://www.thecourier.com Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby Reid and that will take you to the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the background. Enjoy!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Aug 3 07:22:59 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:22:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <1217765917.4895a21d9dd61@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie: Dave done did hisself proud! I'm shocked! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > fero_ah at city-net.com > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 07:19 AM > To: Stationary Engine List; Old_Engine > Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show > > > Hiya Folks, > > Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism > student who was working as a > summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly > paper). He was a real > interesting young fella and he's taken a number > of reallly good pics. > > http://www.thecourier.com > > Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby > Reid and that will take you to > the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the > background. Enjoy!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Aug 3 07:25:08 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:25:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <662238108.20080803065658@wiktel.com> Message-ID: Gang: I had a few hundred slides from the 1960's and tried to use my flatbed scanner to make 'em into JPGs. They looked terrible. I solved the problem by throwing out all the slides and selling the projector and trays on EvilBay. The dim past is best forgotten. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of William > Olson > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 06:57 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > > > Hi Paul, > > Saturday, August 2, 2008, 10:31:36 PM, you wrote: > > PM> This seems like the most economical device, I > wish I had some input from > PM> someone who has used one. > > PM> Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I > end up with. > > PM> Paul > > PM> ----- Original Message ----- > PM> From: > PM> To: > PM> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM > PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide > Scanner & Viewer > > > >> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item > #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 > >> seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. > >> Works with Windows XP. > > > >> Ron Haskell > >> rdhaskell at juno.com > >> Riverside, California USA > >> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > I have used it and it did a very good job. You > can also get it through Heartland on line. > > > > -- > Thanks, William mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 3 07:25:51 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:25:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer - Thanks References: Message-ID: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> Thanks everyone for all of your input, you certainly have got this old man to "thinking" which is something I don't normally do, it has activated a whole array of new sensors in the head that are normally dormant. A friend of mine, that lives in East Tennessee, told me he had recently went to Wal-Mart and they charged him $2.50 per CD and that they were able to average putting 70 slides on a CD. He had them scan 625 slides for him. He is going to go to the store tomorrow and see if they will repeat this again and if so I think I would be crazy not to ship my slides to him and let him go to Wal-mart and have them put on a CD. I checked with my Wal-Mart and they want $.61 a slide so my store is now an option. I am still reviewing everyone's input and will soon do something, even if it is wrong. I appreciate everyone trying to help me with this O.T. subject. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Gang: > > I had a few hundred slides from the 1960's and tried to use my flatbed > scanner to make 'em into JPGs. They looked terrible. > > I solved the problem by throwing out all the slides and selling the > projector and trays on EvilBay. The dim past is best forgotten. :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of William >> Olson >> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 06:57 AM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer >> >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> Saturday, August 2, 2008, 10:31:36 PM, you wrote: >> >> PM> This seems like the most economical device, I >> wish I had some input from >> PM> someone who has used one. >> >> PM> Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I >> end up with. >> >> PM> Paul >> >> PM> ----- Original Message ----- >> PM> From: >> PM> To: >> PM> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM >> PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide >> Scanner & Viewer >> >> >> >> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item >> #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 >> >> seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. >> >> Works with Windows XP. >> >> >> >> Ron Haskell >> >> rdhaskell at juno.com >> >> Riverside, California USA >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell >> >> I have used it and it did a very good job. You >> can also get it through Heartland on line. >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, William > mailto:weolson at wiktel.com > > Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Sun Aug 3 13:14:53 2008 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:14:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer - Thanks In-Reply-To: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> References: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> Message-ID: <489611BD.6090702@telenet.net> Paul Maples wrote: > Thanks everyone for all of your input, you certainly have got this old man > to "thinking" which is something I don't normally do, it has activated a > whole array of new sensors in the head that are normally dormant. > > A friend of mine, that lives in East Tennessee, told me he had recently went > to Wal-Mart and they charged him $2.50 per CD and that they were able to > average putting 70 slides on a CD. He had them scan 625 slides for him. He > is going to go to the store tomorrow and see if they will repeat this again > and if so I think I would be crazy not to ship my slides to him and let him > go to Wal-mart and have them put on a CD. > > I checked with my Wal-Mart and they want $.61 a slide so my store is now an > option. > > I am still reviewing everyone's input and will soon do something, even if it > is wrong. > > I appreciate everyone trying to help me with this O.T. subject. > > Paul I completely forgot that Wally World did this. I'll have to see what my three local stores get. Since I get a 10% employee discount in the stores I might be able to farm out some of my current backlog. -- Steve W. From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Aug 3 18:04:03 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:04:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down In-Reply-To: <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080803210329.02feda60@pop3.wcoil.com> Nope FINDLAY, GRINNNNN See ya all at Portland At 10:03 PM 8/2/08, you wrote: >I'm here Paul. No activity though. You'd think it was Portland week! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Maples" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM >Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down > > > > Is the list down? > > > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 > > 5:30 PM > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From page at velocitynet.com.au Sun Aug 3 18:24:43 2008 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:24:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <1217765917.4895a21d9dd61@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000301c8f5d0$dfdc2b50$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Not only did Dave do a good job but how about the student's presentation. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of fero_ah at city-net.com Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2008 10:19 PM To: Stationary Engine List; Old_Engine Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Hiya Folks, Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism student who was working as a summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly paper). He was a real interesting young fella and he's taken a number of reallly good pics. http://www.thecourier.com Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby Reid and that will take you to the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the background. Enjoy!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 7/06/2008 11:17 AM From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Aug 4 04:02:40 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:02:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Message-ID: <080420081102.11738.4896E1D0000B88F200002DDA219791299503010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey Arnie sure was a great slideshow and especially enjoyed hearing the good narration done by Dave. Looking forward to seeing everybody in two weeks at Baraboo. thanks for sharing. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: fero_ah at city-net.com To: Stationary Engine List , Old_Engine Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:27:27 +0000 > Hiya Folks, > > Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism student who was working as a > summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly paper). He was a real > interesting young fella and he's taken a number of reallly good pics. > > http://www.thecourier.com > > Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby Reid and that will take you to > the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the background. Enjoy!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldengin at verizon.net Mon Aug 4 05:43:30 2008 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:43:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping References: <5BB61B51645B41CDA11778E0AC6FEAAF@your9e74d7efa7> <1217268727.488e0bf7e91b3@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <002e01c8f62f$b8b25590$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> At this writing the camping is saved... more later Leroy ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Pfeiffer Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping > > Since I now work 2 jobs so Bill can have health insurance, I have not been > on the list much. > > Just was wondering if anyone is going to do the usual camping area grab? > > If so we will arrive on Tuesday with our 29' trailer with the pull out > sides. > > Looking forward to seeing you all, for possibily the last time. > > > XOXOX > Peg Pfeiffer> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 > 6:55 AM > > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 4 06:49:42 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:49:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 8N Fords References: <6f6025160807072343p666f4df8g2573b03f922555fe@mail.gmail.com><010901c8e124$ca0cae00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b><9CF01CDD-352C-4990-9428-733C79AF8893@alltel.net><375acf600807081339n40917421s31c831a9854894ce@mail.gmail.com> <004b01c8e159$1d6e83a0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Message-ID: <001a01c8f638$f330eb10$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Ok ..now I am getting wind of a couple JD A and B's for sale down here . Found an H and a GP too . >>> On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Chuck Balyeat wrote: >>> > Do those things have enough tractive weight to pull a 2 wheeled >>> > round bale >>> >>> From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 4 08:03:08 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:03:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer - Thanks In-Reply-To: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> References: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> Message-ID: <1217862188.48971a2cd2ec9@webmail.city-net.com> Paul, If you Google 35mm slide conversion services, you'll get a gazillion hits. It seems like a no-brainer option. If you're concerned about quality, I see that Kodak is in the business of doing these conversions. I'll bet that they know a thing or two about getting a quality image. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting Paul Maples : > Thanks everyone for all of your input, you certainly have got this old man > to "thinking" which is something I don't normally do, it has activated a > whole array of new sensors in the head that are normally dormant. > > A friend of mine, that lives in East Tennessee, told me he had recently went > > to Wal-Mart and they charged him $2.50 per CD and that they were able to > average putting 70 slides on a CD. He had them scan 625 slides for him. He > is going to go to the store tomorrow and see if they will repeat this again > and if so I think I would be crazy not to ship my slides to him and let him > go to Wal-mart and have them put on a CD. > > I checked with my Wal-Mart and they want $.61 a slide so my store is now an > option. From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon Aug 4 15:05:49 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:05:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond Message-ID: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi guys, As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net Mon Aug 4 15:59:59 2008 From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (armstrong) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:59:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <000601c8f685$d4fd9150$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5> Craig, The Air Force Museum in Dayton ,Ohio and perhaps the Neal Armstrong Space Museum in Wapakoneta ,Ohio you would find worthwhile visiting. Both relatively close to Portland. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "craig morrison" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond > Hi guys, > As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of > weeks and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell > coverage? And has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and > see or visit after Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) > > Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. > P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 4 16:38:19 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <176193.64387.qm@web55913.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I've had every Cellphone carrier, and by far Verizon is the best i've found..? I? may have had one dropped call in the last year.?? BTW Craig, where do you hail from in Scotland? I've got some friends in Aberdeen. Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA --- On Mon, 8/4/08, craig morrison wrote: From: craig morrison Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 5:05 PM Hi guys, As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 5 05:16:12 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:16:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Message-ID: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Hi all Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite or what???? It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera 360 degrees. The whole east coast of Oz is visible. Peter, Oz From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 05:59:44 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 5:59:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter Message-ID: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter is a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops I've checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? Thanks for any help. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 5 06:11:26 2008 From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:11:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > Hi all > > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via > satellite > or what???? > It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. > Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on > the > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the > camera > 360 degrees. > The whole east coast of Oz is visible. > > Peter, Oz > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 > 6:03 AM > > > From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 5 06:25:41 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:25:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <001701c8f6fe$c2020ee0$0200a8c0@PETER> Mine is more recent because my neighbour's house has only been for sale since January. Peter, Oz >I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. > Skip > > >> Hi all >> >> Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via >> satellite >> or what???? >> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. >> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click >> on >> street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on >> the >> red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the >> camera >> 360 degrees. >> The whole east coast of Oz is visible. >> >> Peter, Oz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 >> 6:03 AM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From MaytagTwin at aol.com Tue Aug 5 06:27:17 2008 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:27:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/2008 8:02:03 AM Central Daylight Time, jbcast at charter.net writes: My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter is a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops I've checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? Thanks for any help. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA Hi J.B., My Winnebago Le Share with the 2.0 L turbodiesel engine (Renault) used a Paris Rhone alternator. I don't know about the starter. I do know a Bosch alternator would interchange parts with the Paris Rhone. I sold the Winnebago a while back and don't have parts connections anymore but you might Google "Le Sharo" parts and come up with some possibilities. There were sources in Dallas and in Iowa, too. Good luck in your search. Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO, USA **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Tue Aug 5 06:36:31 2008 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:36:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <001701c8f6fe$c2020ee0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <005101c8f700$466e3ef0$68c6eddc@Edd> My son said it was about mid March when they went by his place. EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > Mine is more recent because my neighbour's house has only been for sale > since January. > Peter, Oz > > > >>I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. >> Skip > >> >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via >>> satellite >>> or what???? >>> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. >>> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click >>> on >>> street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on >>> the >>> red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the >>> camera >>> 360 degrees. >>> The whole east coast of Oz is visible. >>> >>> Peter, Oz >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: >>> 8/5/2008 >>> 6:03 AM >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From b2 at chooka.net Tue Aug 5 06:42:18 2008 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:42:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <000e01c8f701$143a6b60$190a0a0a@apluscomputer.local> The areas with high quality street view images are done via cars driving around and capturing the images. Here's a story on this procedure taking place in the UK. http://www.bigmouthmedia.com/live/articles/up-close-with-the-google-street-v iew-spiders.asp/4920/ I'm not seeing Google street views of my town. B? Bill Brueck Chatfield, Minnesota, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:16 AM To: Oldengine.org; ATIS Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Hi all Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite or what???? It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera 360 degrees. The whole east coast of Oz is visible. Peter, Oz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 5 06:42:48 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:42:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER><001701c8f6fe$c2020ee0$0200a8c0@PETER> <005101c8f700$466e3ef0$68c6eddc@Edd> Message-ID: <002b01c8f701$26177a80$0200a8c0@PETER> I am having problems around my old place in Newcastle because of the high download demand since it was on TV tonight. Peter, Oz > My son said it was about mid March when they went by his place. > EDD PAYNE > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W > Australia > 2852 > Phone:0263742387 > edsengns at optusnet.com.au > edsengns > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > > >> Mine is more recent because my neighbour's house has only been for sale >> since January. >> Peter, Oz >> >> >> >>>I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. >>> Skip >> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via >>>> satellite >>>> or what???? >>>> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. >>>> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click >>>> on >>>> street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click >>>> on >>>> the >>>> red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the >>>> camera >>>> 360 degrees. >>>> The whole east coast of Oz is visible. >>>> >>>> Peter, Oz >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: >>>> 8/5/2008 >>>> 6:03 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 08:11:34 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:11:34 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <6f6025160808050811y85763f6rd1f247cb1a3e7d6a@mail.gmail.com> On 04/08/2008, craig morrison wrote: > Hi guys, > As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks > and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And > has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after > Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) > We use our standard UK tri-band mobile (cell) phone and it works fine, not many folks call us in the USA, but a lot do from the UK so we prefer to keep our existing number. We are with Vodafone which I think switches to Verizon when we land. Calls to US numbers are made normally without any fuss and the charges aren't too bad. Dayton OH is a good place to visit, but it's a fair drive, nearly 3 hours from Muncie, a bit more from Portland or Decatur. It is nearly all back roads as well. The USAF Museum is a great place, we belong to the Friends of The Museum and normally pay our yearly subscription while we are there, then we go and spend a small fortune in the Museum shop and get it back in member's discount! The Museum is free, there are no entrance charges. If you want to do the Presidential Aircraft tour then you MUST have you passport with you. Indianapolis Speedway is worth a trip, but another long drive. Amish centres abound in the State of Indiana, especially towards the top of the state. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 5 08:13:23 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:13:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <1217949203.48986e13e376e@webmail.city-net.com> Craig, The BIG question is where are you flying back FROM? Chicago? LA? NY? That makes a big difference in terms of what's reasonable to visit. See ya, Arnie PS - Verizon. PPS - Only looking forward to meeting SOME of us again? SOME you hope you NEVER see again? 8-)) Quoting craig morrison : > As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks > and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And > has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after > Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) > > Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. > P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 08:15:57 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:15:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter In-Reply-To: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> References: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> Message-ID: <6f6025160808050815x2843d232i54016af123792ead@mail.gmail.com> On 05/08/2008, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter is > a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops I've > checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? Thanks for > any help. > J.B. Castagnos JB: Paris-Rhone was the major French auto-electric company in the 1960's, but along with Ducellier and others they have seemingly vanished off the face of the planet. Which Perkins engine is it? 4-203? 4-236? There are thousands of them, and selecting a start can be a nightmare. Find out the engine details, stamped around the area of the casting that the injection pump sits on. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 5 08:32:02 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:32:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter References: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> Message-ID: <002201c8f710$69d89c40$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I see the complete starter as an R & R , but I couldnt find a pinion drive gear for it . The goofier it is , the tighter they hold the remaining spares to their chests . I'll send you a picture in another mail , cause ahh , well.....you know . > My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter > is a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops > I've checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? > Thanks for any help. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA /sel From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 5 10:01:02 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:01:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] I know that dude ! References: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> <002201c8f710$69d89c40$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <000401c8f71c$d816b190$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> As I am he and he is me and we are all together . coo coo ca frikin choo! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080804/ap_on_fe_st/odd_car_fence I heard tell of a guy that was "forced" to build a fence around his junkyard with ALL of the doors and partitions from an airport restroom remodeling job . From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Tue Aug 5 10:14:19 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:14:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <1217949203.48986e13e376e@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000b01c8f71e$b2e2b2a0$8c516f58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Arnie, I fly back from Chicago, as to meeting some of you again I don't mean what you think, I meant it would be very unlikely to see everyone on the list. Cheers, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] trip accross the pond > Craig, > > The BIG question is where are you flying back FROM? > Chicago? LA? NY? That makes a big difference in terms > of what's reasonable to visit. > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - Verizon. > PPS - Only looking forward to meeting SOME of us again? SOME you hope you > NEVER > see again? 8-)) > > Quoting craig morrison : > >> As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of >> weeks >> and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? >> And >> has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit >> after >> Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) >> >> Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. >> P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: > 04/08/2008 08:09 > > From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 11:21:15 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:21:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080805142115.2I37D.23622.root@mp19> > > Hi J.B., > My Winnebago Le Share with the 2.0 L turbodiesel engine (Renault) used a > Paris Rhone alternator. I don't know about the starter. I do know a Bosch > alternator would interchange parts with the Paris Rhone. I sold the Winnebago a > while back and don't have parts connections anymore but you might Google "Le > Sharo" parts and come up with some possibilities. There were sources in > Dallas and in Iowa, too. > > Good luck in your search. > > Ron Carroll > Thanks Ron, I'll try matching it up to some Bosch parts, maybe I'll get lucky. >>Paris-Rhone was the major French auto-electric company in the 1960's, >but along with Ducellier and others they have seemingly vanished off >the face of the planet. >Which Perkins engine is it? 4-203? 4-236? There are thousands of >them, and selecting a start can be a nightmare. >Find out the engine details, stamped around the area of the casting >that the injection pump sits on. >Peter A Forbes << Peter, I looked at it at lunch and it's a three cylinder, can't see numbers without a light and some cleaning. I'll go back prepared. ---- Chuck Balyeat wrote: > I see the complete starter as an R & R , but I couldnt find a pinion drive > gear for it . > The goofier it is , the tighter they hold the remaining spares to their > chests . > I'll send you a picture in another mail , cause ahh , well.....you know . > > Chuck, it looks like the picture, is it available, and what's the price. Thanks to all, J.B. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 5 11:53:19 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:53:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000b01c8f71e$b2e2b2a0$8c516f58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <1217949203.48986e13e376e@webmail.city-net.com> <000b01c8f71e$b2e2b2a0$8c516f58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <1217962399.4898a19fe671d@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Craig, Well, if you're flying back from Chicago, I'd recommend the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. http://www.msichicago.org/ And as a single guy, I think you MUST sample some of Chicago's night life. Specifically, the jazz and blues clubs. Here's a starting point list... http://www.10best.com/Chicago,IL/Nightlife/Jazz_&_Blues_Clubs/ The best source of info on the best jazz and blues clubs would be someone local. There's probably someone on the list who's been to some good ones and could lead you astray. 8->> See ya, Arnie PS - Rumor has it that Curt Andree is lining up a "Gentlemen's Club" visit for Baraboo. Quoting craig morrison : > I fly back from Chicago, as to meeting some of you again I don't mean > what you think, I meant it would be very unlikely to see everyone on the > list. From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 14:38:37 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston Message-ID: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that is semi headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder covered by a four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in the plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped directly to the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If it works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. Thanks in advance, Jimmy O?Hagan Jim O'Hagan From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 14:50:17 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:50:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <008801c8f745$40499f70$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Clear DayI have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the worm drive that fits inside of it. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the list? Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Aug 5 14:48:39 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:48:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston Message-ID: <20080805.144839.2184.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Jim. I helped a friend get a piston out with a pressure washer. Filled cylinder with water, took the quick coupler off the wand and screwed it into a pipe fitting in the head and hit it with a couple of quick blasts. Piston started to move, more quick shots and it was out. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 "Jim O'Hagan" writes: > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that is > semi > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > covered by a > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in > the > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > directly to > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > it > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > Thanks in > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan > > > > Jim O'Hagan > ____________________________________________________________ Stop collection calls. Click here to receive information on how to improve your credit. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mIZWmWHyy1BWE8Njpy5Cr0QFCua52h6twX0VxKFU1SCpBHH/ From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 5 15:12:30 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:12:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <32DDF03D-7649-4A1F-A169-8F39BCA4DA0A@rustyiron.com> On Aug 5, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that > is semi > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > covered by a > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in the > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > directly to > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > it > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > Thanks in > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan Hi Jimmy, I don't understand what you're saying about grease being difficult to clean up. What's the matter, is Pam out of town? http://engines.rustyiron.com/piston From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 17:11:30 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:11:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the gear on the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the list? Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Aug 5 17:49:14 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:49:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston References: <20080805.144839.2184.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: Interesting. Never heard of that method before. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] stuck piston > Hi Jim. > I helped a friend get a piston out with a pressure washer. Filled > cylinder with water, took the quick coupler off the wand and screwed it > into a pipe fitting in the head and hit it with a couple of quick blasts. > Piston started to move, more quick shots and it was out. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 "Jim O'Hagan" > writes: >> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7" piston from a cylinder that is >> semi >> headless in that it has a 4 " hole in the top of the cylinder >> covered by a >> four bolt plate. The plate has a ?" pipe threaded hole centered in >> the >> plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped >> directly to >> the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If >> it >> works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. >> Thanks in >> advance, Jimmy O'Hagan >> >> >> >> Jim O'Hagan >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Stop collection calls. Click here to receive information on how to > improve your credit. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mIZWmWHyy1BWE8Njpy5Cr0QFCua52h6twX0VxKFU1SCpBHH/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 8/3/2008 > 1:00 PM > > > From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 18:41:19 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:41:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <32DDF03D-7649-4A1F-A169-8F39BCA4DA0A@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20080806014118.198F965B452@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi Rob, please send me some of your Home movies so I can show Pam ,she won't be the first. Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:13 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] stuck piston On Aug 5, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that > is semi > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > covered by a > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in the > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > directly to > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > it > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > Thanks in > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan Hi Jimmy, I don't understand what you're saying about grease being difficult to clean up. What's the matter, is Pam out of town? http://engines.rustyiron.com/piston _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edstoller at earthlink.net Tue Aug 5 18:21:48 2008 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:21:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed> Hi Berry, You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it soak and lightly tap it? Is the motor square or round? Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "bdb" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model > H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" > that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the gear > on > the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the list? > Barry > > Barry D Buchanan > 410 S. Moore > Ottumwa, IA. 52501 > > When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look > like a nail. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 19:22:40 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:22:40 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> <00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed> Message-ID: <004d01c8f76b$4d287ec0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Hi Ed- The gear is not stuck. The part that fits inside the gear that raises the gear has splines on the inside of it and for some reason today they stripped when I tried to start the engine. If I remember right the engine is kind of square. I've been searching the internet and have found out my motor is to old for new parts or at least that is what most sites tell me. The # on the starter is 29965 and all I can find new is the end cap with the brushes. I'm sure there is somewhere that I can get parts, I'd even buy a whole starter if needed. I'll check out the links you gave me and see if they can help. Thanks for the Help! Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Hi Berry, > > You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ or > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ > > Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it soak > and lightly tap it? > > Is the motor square or round? > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bdb" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM > Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > >> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model >> H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" >> that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the gear >> on >> the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the >> list? >> Barry >> >> Barry D Buchanan >> 410 S. Moore >> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >> >> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >> like a nail. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 19:36:41 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:36:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> > >> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7" piston from a cylinder that is > >> semi > >> headless in that it has a 4 " hole in the top of the cylinder > >> covered by a > >> four bolt plate. The plate has a ?" pipe threaded hole centered in > >> the > >> plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > >> directly to > >> the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > >> it > >> works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > >> Thanks in > >> advance, Jimmy O'Hagan > >> If you put 2500lbs of pressure on a severely stuck piston you will probably split the cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 15:37:23 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:37:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805.144839.2184.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20080805183723.NXMXD.37377.root@mp12> ---- rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > Hi Jim. > I helped a friend get a piston out with a pressure washer. Filled > cylinder with water, took the quick coupler off the wand and screwed it > into a pipe fitting in the head and hit it with a couple of quick blasts. > Piston started to move, more quick shots and it was out. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 "Jim O'Hagan" > writes: > > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that is > > semi > > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > > covered by a > > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in > > the > > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > > directly to > > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > > it > > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > > Thanks in > > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan > > > > > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > If that piston is stuck solid you'll be looking for a cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? J.B. Catagnos Belle Rose, LA From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 5 20:03:06 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:03:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295><00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed> <004d01c8f76b$4d287ec0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <001c01c8f770$f35cc440$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft which transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its bearings, and you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball bearings on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel Horse. So what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a stinkin bearing? I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. If it had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas its a 10 HP Briggs. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "bdb" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Hi Ed- The gear is not stuck. The part that fits inside the gear that > raises > the gear has splines on the inside of it and for some reason today they > stripped when I tried to start the engine. If I remember right the engine > is > kind of square. I've been searching the internet and have found out my > motor > is to old for new parts or at least that is what most sites tell me. The # > on the starter is 29965 and all I can find new is the end cap with the > brushes. I'm sure there is somewhere that I can get parts, I'd even buy a > whole starter if needed. I'll check out the links you gave me and see if > they can help. Thanks for the Help! > Barry > > Barry D Buchanan > 410 S. Moore > Ottumwa, IA. 52501 > > When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look > like a nail. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed stoller" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > >> Hi Berry, >> >> You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ or >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ >> >> Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it soak >> and lightly tap it? >> >> Is the motor square or round? >> >> Ed Stoller >> New Fairfield, CT >> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bdb" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >>> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model >>> H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" >>> that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the >>> gear >>> on >>> the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the >>> list? >>> Barry >>> >>> Barry D Buchanan >>> 410 S. Moore >>> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >>> >>> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >>> like a nail. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Aug 5 20:28:13 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:28:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts Message-ID: <20080805.202814.856.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Rick. Surely you have already thought of these but. Use two separate bearings. Replace with bronze bushing. Pour babbitt for a new bearing. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:03:06 -0400 "Tod Engine Foundation" writes: > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft > which > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its > bearings, and > you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball > bearings > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel > Horse. So > what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a > stinkin > bearing? > > I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. > If it > had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas > its a 10 > HP Briggs. > > Rick ____________________________________________________________ Stop foreclosure. Click here to stay in your home and rebuild credit. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3meXxHccXzDkBYDIDVh4WNLNSYZwarFpRVYg0fgLZPdty0YV/ From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 20:36:10 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:36:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295><00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed><004d01c8f76b$4d287ec0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> <001c01c8f770$f35cc440$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <007e01c8f775$91b6a6c0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Thanks for the thought Rick. After 3 hours of surfing the internet using Google I finally found a place that could cross reference my starter and BINGO I found on that will work according to his website. It was only $59 so if it doesn't fit I'm not out a lot. Could you possibly machine apart that would allow you to use two separate bearings? I have found that with a mill and lathe there isn't a whole lot that can't be made (except the part for my WheelHorse) I have a lot of problems with my lower back(L5 is shot) and the WheelHorse is easy to get on and off of so it is my ride at Portland and with the load I usually have on my trailer the WheelHorse is all I have room for. Thanks Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft which > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its bearings, > and > you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball bearings > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel Horse. > So > what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a > stinkin > bearing? > > I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. If it > had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas its a > 10 > HP Briggs. > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bdb" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > >> Hi Ed- The gear is not stuck. The part that fits inside the gear that >> raises >> the gear has splines on the inside of it and for some reason today they >> stripped when I tried to start the engine. If I remember right the engine >> is >> kind of square. I've been searching the internet and have found out my >> motor >> is to old for new parts or at least that is what most sites tell me. The >> # >> on the starter is 29965 and all I can find new is the end cap with the >> brushes. I'm sure there is somewhere that I can get parts, I'd even buy a >> whole starter if needed. I'll check out the links you gave me and see if >> they can help. Thanks for the Help! >> Barry >> >> Barry D Buchanan >> 410 S. Moore >> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >> >> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >> like a nail. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ed stoller" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >>> Hi Berry, >>> >>> You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ >>> or >>> >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ >>> >>> Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it >>> soak >>> and lightly tap it? >>> >>> Is the motor square or round? >>> >>> Ed Stoller >>> New Fairfield, CT >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "bdb" >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >>> >>> >>>> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model >>>> H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the >>>> "thingy" >>>> that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the >>>> gear >>>> on >>>> the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the >>>> list? >>>> Barry >>>> >>>> Barry D Buchanan >>>> 410 S. Moore >>>> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >>>> >>>> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >>>> like a nail. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 5 20:44:16 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:44:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805.202814.856.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <003f01c8f776$b398db40$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Its a bastard size and two standard bearings won't fit in the housing. The repair I made involved a Bolens tractor that cost me $200. The WH is in the garage. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Hi Rick. > Surely you have already thought of these but. Use two separate bearings. > Replace with bronze bushing. Pour babbitt for a new bearing. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:03:06 -0400 "Tod Engine Foundation" > writes: >> I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft >> which >> transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its >> bearings, and >> you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball >> bearings >> on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel >> Horse. So >> what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a >> stinkin >> bearing? >> >> I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. >> If it >> had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas >> its a 10 >> HP Briggs. >> >> Rick > ____________________________________________________________ > Stop foreclosure. Click here to stay in your home and rebuild credit. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3meXxHccXzDkBYDIDVh4WNLNSYZwarFpRVYg0fgLZPdty0YV/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 20:59:27 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:59:27 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> Message-ID: <20080806035929.C391B4C8C38@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> J.B. It's kinda rare so I wouldn't want to rupture the cylinder. On the other hand the piston WILL come out! The engine is a Field Brundage. Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jbcast at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:37 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Judge Tommy Turner Subject: Re: [SEL] stuck piston > >> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7" piston from a cylinder that is > >> semi > >> headless in that it has a 4 " hole in the top of the cylinder > >> covered by a > >> four bolt plate. The plate has a ?" pipe threaded hole centered in > >> the > >> plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > >> directly to > >> the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > >> it > >> works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > >> Thanks in > >> advance, Jimmy O'Hagan > >> If you put 2500lbs of pressure on a severely stuck piston you will probably split the cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 5 21:23:26 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:23:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> References: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> Message-ID: On Aug 5, 2008, at 7:36 PM, wrote: > If you put 2500lbs of pressure on a severely stuck piston you will > probably split the cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? Pounds... psi... hammers... prybars... Stuck pistons... stuck bolts... stuck microchips... Every job has a point where it can turn to "aw shucks," regardless of the methodology involved. One thing about pressuring up a cylinder is that the cylinder will expand, loosening it's grip on the piston, perhaps allowing lubricant into the newly opened space. Rob From jbcast at charter.net Wed Aug 6 04:03:20 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 4:03:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080806035929.C391B4C8C38@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20080806070320.LJF4A.53728.root@mp12> ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: > J.B. It's kinda rare so I wouldn't want to rupture the cylinder. On the > other hand the piston WILL come out! The engine is a Field Brundage. > I had to sleeve a headless cylinder for a friend. He used a grease gun and blew a 3" piece out of the cylinder, then he broke the piston out. I had to braze a 1/4" area at the top of the cylinder to have something to recieve the sleeve, don't want to see you in the same fix. I do a lot of marine engines, usually stuck bad when they;re stuck. I use a piece of pipe on the skirt, try to press the piston inward first. Once it moves start back out with it. Apply pressure to the piston , if it doesn't move heat the cylinder while pressure is on. If you can't get it in a press make a frame to go around the cylinder and use a hydraulic jack. Because agrease gun worked on one engine is no guarantee it wlil work on another. I hear stories of how people had a hard time removing a stuck piston then use the same rings, piston, and bore. I've had cylinders that after removing the piston and boring for the sleeve I was still hitting rust at .100" over . J.B. From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Aug 6 09:41:03 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:41:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <001c01c8f770$f35cc440$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick: You might want to look at "water pump bearings" for cars. It sounds like they are close to what you are looking for. Shaft, two inner races and one common outer race. Pre-loaded and lubed. If it were mine and I couldn't find one, it'd tick me off enough to go to the effort of "cheating the junkman". I've done it before and get a lot of satisfaction out of using something way beyond it's planned obsolescence. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Tod Engine > Foundation > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:03 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in > 1977-78. The jackshaft which > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck > belt lost its bearings, and > you can't get a replacement. It was specially > made with two ball bearings > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially > made for Wheel Horse. So > what do you do with an old WH that is fully > functional except for a stinkin > bearing? > > I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to > do that just yet. If it > had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part > you need. But alas its a 10 > HP Briggs. > > Rick From jbcast at charter.net Wed Aug 6 10:18:20 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> > > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in > > 1977-78. The jackshaft which > > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck > > belt lost its bearings, and > > you can't get a replacement. It was specially > > made with two ball bearings > > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially > > made for Wheel Horse. So > > what do you do with an old WH that is fully > > functional except for a stinkin > > bearing? John Deere uses a bearing like that for the jackshaft on it's mower deck, they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct size I would make bushings or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse would have gone through the expense of having a special bearing made for such a limited production, there's somthing out there that will work. J.B. Castagnos From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Aug 6 14:07:54 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> References: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> Message-ID: <62044.168.215.206.73.1218056874.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? I took a look at some of my bearing books and McGill makes bearings you describe. They put them in cam followers. Perhaps one will match. I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller bearings pressed inside a thin machined tube would do the trick too. This will provide both the cantilevered load support and the thrust support you need. Curt H > >> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in >> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which >> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck >> > belt lost its bearings, and >> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially >> > made with two ball bearings >> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially >> > made for Wheel Horse. So >> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully >> > functional except for a stinkin >> > bearing? > John Deere uses a bearing like that for the jackshaft on it's mower deck, > they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct size I would make bushings > or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse would have gone through the > expense of having a special bearing made for such a limited production, > there's somthing out there that will work. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Aug 6 16:07:42 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:07:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> <62044.168.215.206.73.1218056874.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <007201c8f819$3b4ef400$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and 1.75" on the other. Should it be neccessary to go to using two seperate bearings the cast iron housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 3/8" dia. and still retain enough strength to work. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? > > I took a look at some of my bearing books and McGill makes bearings you > describe. They put them in cam followers. Perhaps one will match. > > I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller bearings pressed inside a > thin machined tube would do the trick too. This will provide both the > cantilevered load support and the thrust support you need. > Curt H > > >> >>> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in >>> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which >>> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck >>> > belt lost its bearings, and >>> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially >>> > made with two ball bearings >>> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially >>> > made for Wheel Horse. So >>> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully >>> > functional except for a stinkin >>> > bearing? >> John Deere uses a bearing like that for the jackshaft on it's mower deck, >> they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct size I would make bushings >> or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse would have gone through the >> expense of having a special bearing made for such a limited production, >> there's somthing out there that will work. >> J.B. Castagnos >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Aug 6 18:57:14 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:57:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <007201c8f819$3b4ef400$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick: Check out this site. It touts Chinese bearings but I'm sure there are several manufacturers of the same parts. http://www.directindustry.com/scripts/go_to_web.php A real quick look tells me that you can get what you want in a water pump bearing. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Tod Engine > Foundation > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 06:08 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer > race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" > long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and > 1.75" on the other. > > Should it be neccessary to go to using two > seperate bearings the cast iron > housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 > 3/8" dia. and still retain > enough strength to work. > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > > > > Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? > > > > I took a look at some of my bearing books and > McGill makes bearings you > > describe. They put them in cam followers. > Perhaps one will match. > > > > I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller > bearings pressed inside a > > thin machined tube would do the trick too. This > will provide both the > > cantilevered load support and the thrust > support you need. > > Curt H > > > > > >> > >>> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in > >>> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which > >>> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck > >>> > belt lost its bearings, and > >>> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially > >>> > made with two ball bearings > >>> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially > >>> > made for Wheel Horse. So > >>> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully > >>> > functional except for a stinkin > >>> > bearing? > >> John Deere uses a bearing like that for the > jackshaft on it's mower deck, > >> they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct > size I would make bushings > >> or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse > would have gone through the > >> expense of having a special bearing made for > such a limited production, > >> there's somthing out there that will work. > >> J.B. Castagnos > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Aug 6 19:19:10 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:19:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: Message-ID: <00c301c8f833$faa4bd20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I get "cannot find server" at that address. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Rick: > > Check out this site. It touts Chinese bearings but I'm sure there are > several manufacturers of the same parts. > > http://www.directindustry.com/scripts/go_to_web.php > > A real quick look tells me that you can get what you want in a water pump > bearing. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Tod Engine >> Foundation >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 06:08 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >> The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer >> race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" >> long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and >> 1.75" on the other. >> >> Should it be neccessary to go to using two >> seperate bearings the cast iron >> housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 >> 3/8" dia. and still retain >> enough strength to work. >> >> Rick >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >> > >> > Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? >> > >> > I took a look at some of my bearing books and >> McGill makes bearings you >> > describe. They put them in cam followers. >> Perhaps one will match. >> > >> > I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller >> bearings pressed inside a >> > thin machined tube would do the trick too. This >> will provide both the >> > cantilevered load support and the thrust >> support you need. >> > Curt H >> > >> > >> >> >> >>> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in >> >>> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which >> >>> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck >> >>> > belt lost its bearings, and >> >>> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially >> >>> > made with two ball bearings >> >>> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially >> >>> > made for Wheel Horse. So >> >>> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully >> >>> > functional except for a stinkin >> >>> > bearing? >> >> John Deere uses a bearing like that for the >> jackshaft on it's mower deck, >> >> they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct >> size I would make bushings >> >> or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse >> would have gone through the >> >> expense of having a special bearing made for >> such a limited production, >> >> there's somthing out there that will work. >> >> J.B. Castagnos >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sndakitto at activ8.net.au Thu Aug 7 00:44:39 2008 From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au (Steven N Kitto) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:44:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Peter Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw one driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From info that he had they are only filming Oz and US Steve Steve and Denise Kitto 95 Coleyville Road Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 Ph 07 54671541 As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16 To: Oldengine.org; ATIS Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Hi all Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite or what???? It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera 360 degrees. The whole east coast of Oz is visible. Peter, Oz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 01:22:52 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:22:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Message-ID: <001d01c8f866$c91f3f40$0200a8c0@PETER> And also Japan http://maps.google.com.au/maps?near=japan&q=where+is+google+street+view&f=p&rl=1 Peter, Oz > Peter > Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has > contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw > one > driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car > fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. > Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From > info that he had they are only filming Oz and US > > Steve > > Steve and Denise Kitto > 95 Coleyville Road > Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 > Ph 07 54671541 > > As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. > Proverbs 27:19 > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16 > To: Oldengine.org; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > > Hi all > > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via > satellite > or what???? > It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. > Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on > the > > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the > camera > 360 degrees. > The whole east coast of Oz is visible. > > Peter, Oz > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From astfgl at iamnota.org Thu Aug 7 01:30:54 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:30:54 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual In-Reply-To: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll pass it along. Cheers, glen. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 03:49:32 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:49:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual In-Reply-To: <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <6f6025160808070349t583f02a0jfb374ebbfae90783@mail.gmail.com> On 07/08/2008, Glen Harris wrote: > Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a > lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll > pass it along. > > Cheers, glen. > We have one of the large Sioux sets, similar to Reggie's one. I know we can still get parts for it, it might be worth contacting on of the specialist grinding wheel suppliers to see if you can get more info from them, or at least if they know of a source for information. The other folks to ask are the small engine reconditioners, many of whom use these for doing vale seats etc. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Aug 7 04:22:18 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 04:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Message-ID: <2238.165.206.180.35.1218108138.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> So how often do they do that? Around here, that info would be good for only about 6 months as things change - addresses, street names, houses go up, come down, go up again, etc. When I was traveling around Iowa a couple years back for work, I found their maps to be among the LEAST reliable. They had me going down streets that didn't go clear through, etc. I finally started using sources OTHER than their maps. YAHOO is even worse, they don't even have maps for several locations I've tried to look up lately. Bill > Peter > Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has > contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw > one > driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car > fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. > Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From > info that he had they are only filming Oz and US > > Steve > > Steve and Denise Kitto > 95 Coleyville Road > Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 > Ph 07 54671541 > > As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. > Proverbs 27:19 > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16 > To: Oldengine.org; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > > Hi all > > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via > satellite > or what???? > It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. > Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on > the > > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the > camera > 360 degrees. > The whole east coast of Oz is visible. > > Peter, Oz > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 04:56:03 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:56:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <001c01c8f884$916e8510$0200a8c0@PETER> Hi Glen I was just reading your reply and my poor old brain had a flash. I think I contacted Black & Decker USA and they sent me something on this machine, I will have a dig around. I always try and contact a manufacturer, is possible, to see if they have any archived material. Quite often I score well. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia Ph: 61-266453455 http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a > lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll > pass it along. > > Cheers, glen. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Aug 7 07:09:55 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:09:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <00c301c8f833$faa4bd20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick: Sorry about that! The dinner bell was ringing and because I was in a hurry, I didn't check the address carefully. It was a redirect from an industry page. Try this source: http://www.ourbearings.com/water_pump_bearings.htm I just tested it and it is good. You can also use a search engine to look for "automobile water pump bearing" and get a number of sites. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Tod Engine > Foundation > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 09:19 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > I get "cannot find server" at that address. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > > Rick: > > > > Check out this site. It touts Chinese bearings > but I'm sure there are > > several manufacturers of the same parts. > > > > http://www.directindustry.com/scripts/go_to_web.php > > > > A real quick look tells me that you can get > what you want in a water pump > > bearing. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> Behalf Of Tod Engine > >> Foundation > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 06:08 PM > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > >> > >> > >> The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer > >> race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" > >> long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and > >> 1.75" on the other. > >> > >> Should it be neccessary to go to using two > >> seperate bearings the cast iron > >> housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 > >> 3/8" dia. and still retain > >> enough strength to work. > >> > >> Rick From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 15:12:04 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:12:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> Hi Glen HOLD THE BOAT, I found the B&D stuff. I think TOM Martin from NZ sent me some of it, the other stuff came from B&D, but not sure if it was UK or USA. I have emailed them again. I will scan and create a PDF over the weekend. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia Ph: 61-266453455 http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a > lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll > pass it along. > > Cheers, glen. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From astfgl at iamnota.org Thu Aug 7 16:52:04 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:52:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual In-Reply-To: <000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> <000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <489B8AA4.2060405@iamnota.org> I'd appreciate that Peter. I'll be in Maclean visiting the parents at the end of the month, so if the scanned files (High res please!) are too big for you to email, I'm sure I can con Dad into playing chauffeur. The Indian company which B&D outsourced the manufacturing to in 1976 and then parted company with in 1993 is still making them as the SDO 150 FE VALVE REFACER and SDO 162 ANGULAR VIBROCENTRIC KIT. Unfortunately, neither they or their distributors have replied to my emails. Thanks, glen. Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi Glen > HOLD THE BOAT, I found the B&D stuff. > I think TOM Martin from NZ sent me some of it, the other stuff came from > B&D, but not sure if it was UK or USA. I have emailed them again. > I will scan and create a PDF over the weekend. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > > > >> Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a >> lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll >> pass it along. >> >> Cheers, glen. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 20:52:21 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:52:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org><000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> <489B8AA4.2060405@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <002201c8f90a$29484350$0200a8c0@PETER> I sent two emails to India, will see what happens. Do you have any duplicate 5/16" valve seat grinding guides?? I am missing that size and it fits smaller engines like Moffatt Virtue etc. Peter > I'd appreciate that Peter. I'll be in Maclean visiting the parents at > the end of the month, so if the scanned files (High res please!) are too > big for you to email, I'm sure I can con Dad into playing chauffeur. > > The Indian company which B&D outsourced the > manufacturing to in 1976 and then parted company with in 1993 is still > making them as the SDO 150 FE VALVE REFACER and SDO 162 ANGULAR > VIBROCENTRIC KIT. Unfortunately, neither they or their distributors have > replied to my emails. > > Thanks, glen. > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Hi Glen >> HOLD THE BOAT, I found the B&D stuff. >> I think TOM Martin from NZ sent me some of it, the other stuff came from >> B&D, but not sure if it was UK or USA. I have emailed them again. >> I will scan and create a PDF over the weekend. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> Ph: 61-266453455 >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >> >> >> >>> Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a >>> lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll >>> pass it along. >>> >>> Cheers, glen. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From oldengin at verizon.net Fri Aug 8 06:33:06 2008 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:33:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping References: <5BB61B51645B41CDA11778E0AC6FEAAF@your9e74d7efa7> <1217268727.488e0bf7e91b3@webmail.city-net.com> <002e01c8f62f$b8b25590$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: <000d01c8f95b$4b2d0180$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Cris Englehart is setting aside our camping spot for us and it will be in the same area as always. Down Minnie Moline drive, across the river and turn left. My plans have altered some as I will now planning on getting there on Sat. Leroy From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Aug 9 15:29:30 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:29:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SWEET Bessemer Half-Breed on eBay Message-ID: <1218320970.489e1a4a92d6f@webmail.city-net.com> Check it out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=280253817726 ================================================================= Item name: 10 Hp. BESSEMER/C.M. FARRAR HALFBREED Current price: $4,200.50 End time: Aug-13-08 17:42:54 PDT See ya, Arnie From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 9 16:24:20 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] SWEET Bessemer Half-Breed on eBay In-Reply-To: <1218320970.489e1a4a92d6f@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <682927.47989.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lovely indeed!!!! I like it even better with the following comment. "PLEASE NOTE THAT I DO NOT ACCEPT PAY PAL. I DO ACCEPT CERTIFIED CHECKS, MONEY ORDERS AND PERSONAL CHECKS WITH A 10 DAY WAITING PERIOD. PLEASE DO NOT ASK BECAUSE I WILL NOT ACCEPT PAY PAL. SORRY FOR THE INCONVIENCE, BUT NO OTHER OPTION WAS PERMITTED" Alan in Michigan --- On Sat, 8/9/08, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: From: fero_ah at city-net.com Subject: [SEL] SWEET Bessemer Half-Breed on eBay To: "Stationary Engine List" , "Old_Engine" Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 6:29 PM Check it out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=280253817726 ================================================================= Item name: 10 Hp. BESSEMER/C.M. FARRAR HALFBREED Current price: $4,200.50 End time: Aug-13-08 17:42:54 PDT See ya, Arnie _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Sat Aug 9 17:37:39 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:37:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <2238.165.206.180.35.1218108138.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER><017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> <2238.165.206.180.35.1218108138.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: the real truth http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=fPgV6-gnQaE Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz From MaytagTwin at aol.com Sat Aug 9 18:02:23 2008 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:02:23 EDT Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Message-ID: _YouTube - "Who's making love in the middle of my Gangbang?"_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqopjTK_Ps&feature=user) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 10 11:16:01 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:16:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Anyone going to the Cabin Fever Expo Auction? Message-ID: <67A8BF944A394A78BE5DD834A92DAB2E@tommydk7hxjr4h> Is anyone out there going to the Cabin Fever Expo Auction on Aug. 15? If so, please contact me off list. My email address is: Lcjudge at scrtc.com Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From jnyost at yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 17:30:41 2008 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler Message-ID: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hay SEL, Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender?was selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what vender it was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know "why didn't I wait till the last minute." Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From reb1952 at bellsouth.net Sun Aug 10 17:52:16 2008 From: reb1952 at bellsouth.net (Dickie) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:52:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] [SPAM] Screen cooler References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801c8fb4c$80ad81c0$0302a8c0@Dads> John Wanat He has a ad on Harry's Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Yost" To: Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: [SPAM] [SEL] Screen cooler Hay SEL, Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender was selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what vender it was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know "why didn't I wait till the last minute." Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Aug 11 08:36:02 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:36:02 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at least) this weekend. The only identification is "Ideal Oil Engine". It is an open crank horizontal oil (as in paraffin/kerosene) engine with a magneto and spark plug (but these may be a later modification). Please have a look at it here: The engine does not belong to me but I would really appreciate any information on it. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 09:12:15 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:12:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > > I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at > least) > this weekend. Hi Jerry, I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but haven't come across anything yet. From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 09:49:23 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:49:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. Curt H > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >> >> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >> least) >> this weekend. > > > Hi Jerry, > I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would > surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm > currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but > haven't come across anything yet. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 10:20:34 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:20:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <4C054053-2229-4E25-8742-14582F7877FC@rustyiron.com> On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:49 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: > > I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base > reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. > Curt H Hi Curt, Just go here: http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007 As you can see, that engine ain't it. I'll put money on English origins, maybe even Scottish, but almost certainly from that part of the world. Rob From gjohnson at ndii.com Mon Aug 11 10:31:11 2008 From: gjohnson at ndii.com (Johnson, Greg) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:31:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC886901D6ED7A@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz> Hi Jerry, I think this engine is a Hardy and Padmore made in the UK. The date is probably not far off. I had an engine very much like this but with a straight spoke flywheel. Mine was hot tube and natural or town gas. The carburetor looks to be home made along with gas tank support. The valve mechanism with chain driven camshaft is identical to what mine had. The governor was a small inertia pick blade operating the gas valve (missing on this engine). My enigne had an overhung crankshaft so the base was very different. The engine is shown in "The A to Z of British Engines" book. Greg Johnson -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of curt at rustyiron.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:49 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. Curt H > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >> >> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >> least) >> this weekend. > > > Hi Jerry, > I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would > surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm > currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but > haven't come across anything yet. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 11:05:29 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <4C054053-2229-4E25-8742-14582F7877FC@rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <4C054053-2229-4E25-8742-14582F7877FC@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <62128.168.215.206.73.1218477929.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Yup, BIG difference! Curt > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:49 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: > >> >> I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base >> reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. >> Curt H > > Hi Curt, > Just go here: http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007 As you > can see, that engine ain't it. I'll put money on English origins, > maybe even Scottish, but almost certainly from that part of the world. > > Rob > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Aug 11 16:08:46 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:08:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I'm definitely not an expert but I'd say the engine is a "cobble" of parts. The overhead cam with chain drive doesn't look like anything I'd expect to see on a pre turn of the century (the one before last!) engine. The chain looks too modern. Also, the mixer doesn't look right and the fuel tank and bracket and magneto bracket are kind of hammered on. I could be wrong and probably am. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:36 AM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine > > > Hi All, > I came across a rather unusual engine > (for South Africa at least) > this weekend. > > The only identification is "Ideal Oil > Engine". It is an open crank > horizontal oil (as in paraffin/kerosene) engine > with a magneto and spark > plug (but these may be a later modification). > > Please have a look at it here: > > > The engine does not belong to me but I > would really appreciate any > information on it. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 15:35:40 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:35:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC886901D6ED7A@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz> References: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC886901D6ED7A@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz> Message-ID: <54123E40-79C0-4041-9B8D-679AD7441CC3@rustyiron.com> On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Johnson, Greg wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > I think this engine is a Hardy and Padmore made in the UK. The date > is probably not far off. I had an engine very much like this but > with a straight spoke flywheel. Mine was hot tube and natural or > town gas. The carburetor looks to be home made along with gas tank > support. The valve mechanism with chain driven camshaft is > identical to what mine had. The governor was a small inertia pick > blade operating the gas valve (missing on this engine). My enigne > had an overhung crankshaft so the base was very different. The > engine is shown in "The A to Z of British Engines" book. > > Greg Johnson Hey Greg, There are several pictures of H&P engines in the Big Green Book. None are none exactly like Jerry's engine, but four different engines are instantly recognizable as having similar characteristics. Knight writes that "Engine production began around the 1892 period with a two- stroke engine built under the J. Southall patent (J. Southall had also been experimenting with a form of four-cycle engine from around 1885)." He goes on to write that the engines were known as "Ideal." From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Mon Aug 11 16:12:41 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:12:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <005701c8fc07$c27c5d40$742d0556@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >> >> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >> least) >> this weekend. > > > Hi Jerry, > I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would > surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm > currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but > haven't come across anything yet. Hi Jerry, Not quite the same engine but probably the same manufacturer. See http://www.stationaryengine.org/barleylands_2005.htm Near the bottom of the page. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From old_iron at msn.com Mon Aug 11 18:47:55 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:47:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping In-Reply-To: <000d01c8f95b$4b2d0180$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> References: <5BB61B51645B41CDA11778E0AC6FEAAF@your9e74d7efa7> <1217268727.488e0bf7e91b3@webmail.city-net.com> <002e01c8f62f$b8b25590$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> <000d01c8f95b$4b2d0180$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: I have to work on Monday - payroll for 1,000 won't wait. (Yes we will be stopping at home between Baraboo and Portland). We should be there sometime on Tuesday. XOXOXOX Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:33:06 -0400> From: oldengin at verizon.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Camping> > Cris Englehart is setting aside our camping spot for us and it will be in > the same area as always. Down Minnie Moline drive, across the river and turn > left. My plans have altered some as I will now planning on getting there on > Sat. Leroy > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From old_iron at msn.com Mon Aug 11 19:00:02 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:00:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Message-ID: The problem is they took the picture of our current house before we moved in with the John Deere and 47 engines! 2454 Forest Avenue Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 Have a great day, Peg Pfeiffer> From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:44:39 +1000> Subject: Re: [SEL] Google Street View for List members> > Peter> Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has> contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw one> driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car> fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. > Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From> info that he had they are only filming Oz and US> > Steve> > Steve and Denise Kitto> 95 Coleyville Road> Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 > Ph 07 54671541> > As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. > Proverbs 27:19> -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe> Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16> To: Oldengine.org; ATIS> Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members> > Hi all> > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite > or what????> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level.> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the> > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera > 360 degrees.> The whole east coast of Oz is visible.> > Peter, Oz> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From toadhill at aeroinc.net Tue Aug 12 05:51:25 2008 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:51:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Available Message-ID: Folks, We will have a room with two beds available for Fri. and Sat. night of Portland. That's a mile from the grounds. Have to be home for my anniversary on Sat. Call my cell if you are interested. If no one is interested, I will turn the room back over to the Super 8 on Wed. the 20th. See you guys at Portland. Joe Maurer From toadhill at aeroinc.net Tue Aug 12 06:01:03 2008 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:01:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Room Available At Portland Message-ID: Sorry, My Cell Number is 815-541-9237. Joe From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Aug 12 07:44:39 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:44:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <005701c8fc07$c27c5d40$742d0556@intrepid> Message-ID: <001401c8fc89$f3f68e40$742d0556@intrepid> Hi Jerry, I have contacted the engines owner, Jenny Jeffries, and her engine is a Hardy Padmore. I told her of the ATIS list and she said she will subscribe. I will pass on contact details off list. she seems quite knowledgable for a lady. 8^) Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Skinner" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine > > >> >> On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >>> >>> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >>> least) >>> this weekend. >> >> >> Hi Jerry, >> I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would >> surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm >> currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but >> haven't come across anything yet. > > Hi Jerry, Not quite the same engine but probably the same manufacturer. > See http://www.stationaryengine.org/barleylands_2005.htm > Near the bottom of the page. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 5:50 AM > > > From oldironnut at alltel.net Tue Aug 12 07:45:09 2008 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41D43A00-3D28-4096-93F2-673CF6C94E0D@alltel.net> On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Joe&Jewel Maurer wrote: > Have to be home for my anniversary on Sat. Joe, What the hell does that have to do with anything????? Susan and I will arrive Wednesday in Portland on our 20th anniversary to share a room with our swamp rat Webre friends. What better way to celebrate than a romantic walk through the big engine area at night in the glow of the yellow dogs! See ya', Mike ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at alltel.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From bgrimley at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 12 08:44:28 2008 From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (bgrimley at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:44:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need hauling from Buckley, MI area to Bluffton, IN (just N of Portland) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <081220081544.28929.48A1AFDB0005B67E0000710122243322829B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Anyone going towards Portland from Buckley that might be agreeable to haul about a full pick up load, please contact me off-list. bgrimley at bellsouth.net cell 919-414-9190 Load is a 12 hp Economy tractor, implements and parts, currently at Alan Bowen's place at Williamsburg, MI.. Thanks for the post! Bill From pwaugh at embarqmail.com Tue Aug 12 08:54:24 2008 From: pwaugh at embarqmail.com (Paul Waugh) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:54:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need hauling from Buckley, MI area to Bluffton, IN (just N of Portland) References: <081220081544.28929.48A1AFDB0005B67E0000710122243322829B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Message-ID: <00dc01c8fc93$b19f5360$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Now that is a FULL pick up load, and I have a ton dually Paul - IN ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: [SEL] Need hauling from Buckley, MI area to Bluffton,IN (just N of Portland) > > Anyone going towards Portland from Buckley that might be agreeable to haul > about a full pick up load, please contact me off-list. > bgrimley at bellsouth.net cell 919-414-9190 > Load is a 12 hp Economy tractor, implements and parts, currently at Alan > Bowen's place at Williamsburg, MI.. Thanks for the post! > Bill > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 12 09:57:10 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:57:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: <41D43A00-3D28-4096-93F2-673CF6C94E0D@alltel.net> References: <41D43A00-3D28-4096-93F2-673CF6C94E0D@alltel.net> Message-ID: <62169.168.215.206.73.1218560230.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Joe, Just buy her another anniversary engine like you did two years ago. All will be matrimonial bliss and you can stay the entire time! Curt > > On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Joe&Jewel Maurer wrote: >> Have to be home for my anniversary on Sat. > > Joe, > > What the hell does that have to do with anything????? Susan and I > will arrive Wednesday in Portland on our 20th anniversary to share a > room with our swamp rat Webre friends. What better way to celebrate > than a romantic walk through the big engine area at night in the glow > of the yellow dogs! > > See ya', > Mike > > ______________________ > Michael Tucker > oldironnut at alltel.net > Versailles, Kentucky, USA > ______________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:31:26 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:31:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond Message-ID: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi Guys, The time has come for the trip, I leave here at sparrow fart tomorrow and land at O'Hare about 2pm.So I'll see you at Baraboo sometime on thursday. See you latter, Craig From rotigel at alltel.net Tue Aug 12 13:07:12 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:07:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Room Available At Portland In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe, Why on earth would you be sorry that your cell phone number is 815-541-9237. It looks like a fine number to me! Dave On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Joe&Jewel Maurer wrote: > Sorry, > > My Cell Number is 815-541-9237. > > Joe From gastzt at aol.com Tue Aug 12 13:05:42 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:05:42 EDT Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond Message-ID: Sparrow fart? gosh! **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 12 18:48:52 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:48:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage ignition Message-ID: <20080813014855.24B8B40543D@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi All of the "Field" engines that I've seen have a front mounted ignitor and/or a Webster mag mounted on the front of the cylinder. My new acqusition has a different type of of ignition. This is a professional modification with a timer on the end of the shaft and a pipe thread spark plug .All of the ignitor system is gone .The end of the shaft has been completely modified and re machined to accept a timer on the end. The Pot metal timer has been destroyed except for the advance/retard lever and a short mounting collar Has any one seen a similar engine in their travels or maybe own one?. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can send pictures if it would help. Thanks, Jimmy Jim O'Hagan From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Aug 12 20:29:00 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:29:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage ignition References: <20080813014855.24B8B40543D@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <6A54155A855049199CDC25679959BD70@tommydk7hxjr4h> Jimmy, My 8 HP Field had a retro fitted ignition system. The end of the sideshaft had a timer mounted on it but I'm not sure if it was the same system as what you describe or not. The 15 HP I had also had some sort of conversion but that's been so long ago I don't remember what it was. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage ignition > Hi All of the "Field" engines that I've seen have a front mounted ignitor > and/or a Webster mag mounted on the front of the cylinder. My new > acqusition > has a different type of of ignition. This is a professional modification > with a timer on the end of the shaft and a pipe thread spark plug .All of > the ignitor system is gone .The end of the shaft has been completely > modified and re machined to accept a timer on the end. The Pot metal timer > has been destroyed except for the advance/retard lever and a short > mounting > collar Has any one seen a similar engine in their travels or maybe own > one?. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can send pictures if it would > help. > Thanks, Jimmy > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1608 - Release Date: 8/12/2008 > 4:59 PM > > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Tue Aug 12 21:48:23 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:48:23 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Take a tank with you and buy the cooler at Portland. The viewers generally like to see engine people actually doing something! Paul > Hay SEL, > > Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender?was > selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what vender it > was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know "why > didn't I wait till the last minute." > > Jim and Janna Yost > Utica, Ohio > USA > jnyost at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 12 22:16:32 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:16:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage Timing Message-ID: <20080813051633.C5D3A444828@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Tommy ,thanks for the information. At least I'm beginning to think mine may not be a one off engineering exercise that was destroyed. Do you remember where the engines went to? Jimmy Jim O'Hagan From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 01:45:42 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:45:42 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/08/2008, craig morrison wrote: > Hi Guys, > > The time has come for the trip, I leave here at sparrow fart > tomorrow and land at O'Hare about 2pm.So I'll see you at Baraboo sometime on > thursday. > > See you latter, Craig We fly out of Heathrow tomorrow at 08.40, arrive Detroit at 12.35pm. We'll be driving northwest to Buckley MI, then back down to Portland the following week. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Aug 13 04:24:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the ladies walk buy is not doing anything? Dave On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:48 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Take a tank with you and buy the cooler at Portland. The viewers > generally > like to see engine people actually doing something! > > Paul > >> Hay SEL, >> >> Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender was >> selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what >> vender it >> was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know >> "why >> didn't I wait till the last minute." >> >> Jim and Janna Yost >> Utica, Ohio >> USA >> jnyost at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tsmith at hal-pc.org Wed Aug 13 04:25:07 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:25:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Message-ID: Anybody likely to be selling Bessemer repro Gaso Kero tags this year?? Thanks, Tom On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:28 -0400 David Rotigel wrote: > Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the > > ladies walk buy is not doing anything? > Dave > > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:48 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Take a tank with you and buy the cooler at Portland. The viewers >> generally >> like to see engine people actually doing something! >> >> Paul >> >>> Hay SEL, >>> >>> Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender >>>was >>> selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what >>> vender it >>> was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know >>> >>> "why >>> didn't I wait till the last minute." >>> >>> Jim and Janna Yost >>> Utica, Ohio >>> USA >>> jnyost at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gastzt at aol.com Wed Aug 13 04:26:01 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:26:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler Message-ID: Hey Dave JUST LOVE that one! Sounds like the way I like to work on an engine--(just make sure it is running 1st) ha! Stan Zettner 8hp Stover Pleasanton, Tx can't make Portland this year---wife just had back surgery! Maybe next time! Sure want to meet some of you guys! FUN stuff! thanks, SZ **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed Aug 13 04:52:58 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:52:58 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, your axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! Paul > Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the > ladies walk buy is not doing anything? > Dave From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Aug 13 05:29:06 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:29:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and "buy!" Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, > your > axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! > > Paul > >> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the >> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? >> Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Aug 13 05:31:15 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:31:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com><2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au><55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net><1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <002b01c8fd40$7a7b14c0$0200a8c0@PETER> Or By, Buy & Bye Peter > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, >> your >> axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! >> >> Paul >> >>> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the >>> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? >>> Dave >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 13 05:45:35 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:45:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Repro Bessemer Tag In-Reply-To: References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> Tom, I'd contact Jerry Evans. He does beautiful work at a very reasonable price. All he would need is a good clean photo of an original tag (with dimensions) and that should be easy to get from one of the list members. Here's some examples to check out... http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm See ya, Arnie Quoting Tom Smith : > Anybody likely to be selling Bessemer repro Gaso Kero tags this year?? From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 06:45:26 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:45:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Excess Baggage Message-ID: <6f6025160808130645g271f247ep44c4840a57390b28@mail.gmail.com> I hope you guys are all goin' to be bidding well at the Charity Auction next week, we have a stack of chrome-vanadium steel stuff in our baggage for the auction and don't want to bring it back again! There is also a very nice Aynsley China item that Rita is bringing over for the ladies to bid on. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Aug 13 04:52:58 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:52:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage Timing In-Reply-To: <20080813051633.C5D3A444828@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <000601c8fd3b$217fa390$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Jim, I still have the 8 HP and a 3 1/2 HP at my home. The 15 went to IL, then to MN and the last I knew it was still out west somewhere. I got it out of TX in the early 80's. Not sure who the owner is now though as some of these old hunks of iron get "shipping fever" from traveling so much from collector to collector. My 8 HP had some linkage on it that would allow the timer to be advanced and retarded. I don't know that it was a factory set up but was a neat conversion done by an "engineer" of old. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:17 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage Timing Tommy ,thanks for the information. At least I'm beginning to think mine may not be a one off engineering exercise that was destroyed. Do you remember where the engines went to? Jimmy Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Wed Aug 13 07:33:54 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:33:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <2273A5A7-181D-4B95-B09B-9DB3E9DF9C91@rustyiron.com> On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:29 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave Dave, if some nice young man dressed in colorful, tight fitting clothes asks if you'd like to learn about "bi" run away as fast as you can. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Aug 13 07:58:03 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:58:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <2273A5A7-181D-4B95-B09B-9DB3E9DF9C91@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <000501c8fd54$fccd6ae0$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> And Rob you could probably add the old tag line for Dave "No purchase necessary". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave Dave, if some nice young man dressed in colorful, tight fitting clothes asks if you'd like to learn about "bi" run away as fast as you can. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 13 08:14:10 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:14:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler (OT) In-Reply-To: <1218639586.48a2f6e2ef5f3@webmail.city-net.com> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> <2273A5A7-181D-4B95-B09B-9DB3E9DF9C91@rustyiron.com> <1218639586.48a2f6e2ef5f3@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <1218640450.48a2fa42c3b51@webmail.city-net.com> Ahhhh, yes. Reminds me of that great old song "Do they hang too low?" with the CLASSIC chorus ... Any old storm, any old port Life is long, love is short Better get a woman, get a woman if you can If you can't get a woman, get a clean old man. http://www.drinkingsongs.net/mp3s/1950s/1958ca-bawdy-songs-vol-8-sing-along-bawdy-songs-(LP)/01-do-they-hang-too-low.htm 8-))) See ya, Arnie > Quoting Rob Skinner : > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:29 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > > > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > > > "buy!" > > > Dave > > > > Dave, if some nice young man dressed in colorful, tight fitting clothes > > asks if you'd like to learn about "bi" run away as fast as you can. From tsmith at hal-pc.org Wed Aug 13 08:26:58 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:26:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Repro Bessemer Tag In-Reply-To: <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Hi Arnie, Thanks for the email. That's my problem, I haven't been able to get a good clean photo. I've contacted Jerry but he needs a better picture than what I can provide for my 8hp vertical. I would love to go to Portland myself and poke around a bit but spent my engine travel funds going to the Cat show in Woodland, CA earlier this year. Tom On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:45:35 -0400 fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Tom, > > I'd contact Jerry Evans. > > He does beautiful work at a very reasonable price. All he would >need is a good > clean photo of an original tag (with dimensions) and that should be >easy to get > from one of the list members. > > Here's some examples to check out... > http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm > > See ya, Arnie > > Quoting Tom Smith : > >> Anybody likely to be selling Bessemer repro Gaso Kero tags this >>year?? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 13 08:47:26 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:47:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Repro Bessemer Tag In-Reply-To: References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <1218642446.48a3020eb754d@webmail.city-net.com> Tom, I could take a pic of the tag on my 2 hp, but it's a rebadge that includes the name of some machinery company in addition to the Bessemer stuff. I also don't know if the tag size on the 8 hp might be larger. I'll try to keep my eyes open at Baraboo / Portland for you. If I see anything suitable, I'll take a pic. See ya, Arnie Quoting Tom Smith : > Thanks for the email. That's my problem, I haven't been able to get a > good clean photo. I've contacted Jerry but he needs a better picture > than what I can provide for my 8hp vertical. From old_iron at msn.com Wed Aug 13 09:01:17 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:01:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We are on the road to Baraboo (aren't air cards lovely). The Garmin says we should arrive at 1:09 this afternoon. Looking forward to see you all soon. Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:45:42 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] trip accross the pond> > On 12/08/2008, craig morrison wrote:> > Hi Guys,> >> > The time has come for the trip, I leave here at sparrow fart> > tomorrow and land at O'Hare about 2pm.So I'll see you at Baraboo sometime on> > thursday.> >> > See you latter, Craig> > We fly out of Heathrow tomorrow at 08.40, arrive Detroit at 12.35pm.> We'll be driving northwest to Buckley MI, then back down to Portland> the following week.> > Peter> -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From toadhill at aeroinc.net Wed Aug 13 11:49:11 2008 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:49:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Taken Message-ID: <9199769B7DEA47B9B7D9437B7387FE65@joe5599c86d812> The extra room at Portland has been taken. Joe From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed Aug 13 23:48:56 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:48:56 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1693.218.214.134.238.1218696536.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Well, you could be trying to buy them. Engine shows attract all sorts of professions ;) > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, >> your >> axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! >> >> Paul >> >>> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the >>> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? >>> Dave >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Aug 14 05:43:47 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:43:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080814134248.02ecad80@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, Thanks for all the replies to my original post on this subject. I'm not going to name you all but thanks anyway. Greg Johnson, Dave Croft, Patrick Livingstone (who sent pics) and Rob Skinner seem to have identified it correctly as a Hardy and Padmore. The Brass plate on it is identical to one on a pic from Patrick. I have not yet been able to find an exact match - all those I've seen are smaller than this so am still on the lookout. As mentioned on the webpage, it is NOT my engine but it is "For Sale" but I don't think I'm ready to mortgage my house to buy an engine even if I'd love to have this one. It's part of an estate and the current owners are hoping to sell the entire collection to one buyer (although this may be negotiable). There are only 3 engines in the collection, this one, an open crank Fairbanks Morse Type C and a Lister D. The rest consists of tractors, farm machinery, a Ford Model A Sportster (1928) and a small museum full of other (mostly agricultural) stuff. Everything is beautifully restored. I'll be putting it all on a webpage in the next few days and will keep you guys posted. Thanks to all for their input. I've updated the webpage here: From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Aug 14 08:05:04 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:05:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <1693.218.214.134.238.1218696536.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts .org.au> References: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080814110224.03c8d818@ncweb.com> The correct term in this case is "rent". In the long term, renting is probably cheaper than buying, and less stressful, unless you've already bought one, like Eliot Spitzer. Dave Merchant At 02:48 AM 8/14/2008, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: >Well, you could be trying to buy them. Engine shows attract all sorts of >professions ;) > > > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > > "buy!" > > Dave > > > > > > -------- > > David Rotigel > > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > > > >> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, > >> your > >> axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! > >> > >> Paul > >> > >>> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the > >>> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? > >>> Dave > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 04:03:12 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:03:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: References: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808150403i6e71abf2p72092ba1e4f824d2@mail.gmail.com> On 13/08/2008, William J Pfeiffer Sr wrote: > > We are on the road to Baraboo (aren't air cards lovely). > > The Garmin says we should arrive at 1:09 this afternoon. > > Looking forward to see you all soon. Arrived at Detroit an hour earlier than scheduled, maybe Northwest wanted to make up for the disaster that was our first Portland flight in 2003 :-)) Drove up to Cadillac MI, had a decent might's sleep, will be on the road to Buckley later this morning. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From pstanley at twcny.rr.com Fri Aug 15 07:21:15 2008 From: pstanley at twcny.rr.com (pstanley at twcny.rr.com) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:21:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <18534747.1973131218810075866.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z02> Please unsubscribe me. From lark2263 at phonet.com Fri Aug 15 09:42:35 2008 From: lark2263 at phonet.com (KarlUSA) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:42:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <000a01c8fef5$ebab3dd0$0300a8c0@Karl> Please unsubscribe me. Karl USA From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 15 13:09:18 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:09:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland In-Reply-To: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> References: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> Anyone going from the Lancaster PA area to Portland? I purchased an engine at the auction in Gordonville and thought if someone was coming to Portland that could transport it, it would help them pay their way and save me some $$$ also. The engine is a 3 HP and would easily fit in the back of a pickup (even a small one) If available, give me a call, 270-765-9540. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Aug 15 14:30:19 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:30:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland In-Reply-To: <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> References: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080815172827.0312bdd0@pop3.wcoil.com> Lordy Tommy, If I had known just three days ago! I was in the area. Just got back yesterday. Mark At 04:09 PM 8/15/08, you wrote: >Anyone going from the Lancaster PA area to Portland? I purchased an >engine at the auction in Gordonville and thought if someone was coming >to Portland that could transport it, it would help them pay their way >and save me some $$$ also. The engine is a 3 HP and would easily fit in >the back of a pickup (even a small one) If available, give me a call, >270-765-9540. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Aug 15 15:43:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:43:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <18534747.1973131218810075866.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z0 2> References: <18534747.1973131218810075866.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z02> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080816084304.0204ac48@ncable.com.au> I see there are a couple of your mates here Dave waiting for you to give them some informative information! Russell At 12:21 AM 16/08/2008, you wrote: >Please unsubscribe me. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 15 15:52:04 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:52:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland References: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> <6.2.1.2.1.20080815172827.0312bdd0@pop3.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <813BF2B6F4ED4FE28A7AB79B2C04F22E@tommydk7hxjr4h> Thanks Mark. The auction was today and I purchased the engine about noon. I bought it over the phone (never done that before) but I know the engine well. By chance, I happened on Wednesday to drive by the building where the engine sat for over 70 years, from the time it was new until it was purchased by a collector in the early 70's. One of those things I just "had" to have...... aren't they all! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland > Lordy Tommy, If I had known just three days ago! I was in the area. Just > got back yesterday. Mark > > At 04:09 PM 8/15/08, you wrote: >>Anyone going from the Lancaster PA area to Portland? I purchased an >>engine at the auction in Gordonville and thought if someone was coming >>to Portland that could transport it, it would help them pay their way >>and save me some $$$ also. The engine is a 3 HP and would easily fit in >>the back of a pickup (even a small one) If available, give me a call, >>270-765-9540. >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com > > Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. > Parts lists available on request. > > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 > No Sunday calls if possible. > I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I > represent > them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 > 6:03 PM > > > From pwaugh at embarqmail.com Fri Aug 15 18:35:02 2008 From: pwaugh at embarqmail.com (Paul Waugh) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:35:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] my portland Message-ID: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. I have had fun getting my engines around and better located on a trailer. As you can see I am at the low end of the spectrum, nothing valuable, nothing exotic, but I love to here them run, and appreciate where this country might be with out them, even Maytag has a place in history. So today I had my own Portland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cSMCwC3ho Paul - IN From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 15 20:20:32 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:20:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> The weather looks perfect for Portland. Earlier in the week the forecast was for 50 and 60 percent chances of rain. Its now 10%, highs in the mid 80's and partly cloudy. I'll be there on Wed. morning and hope to set up in the same spot on the blacktop. See everyone soon! BTW Dave R., I'll be bringing about 100 lbs or more of Babbitt for you to give to Rick and the Tod Engine project. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Sat Aug 16 05:57:04 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:57:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <013301c8ff9f$94dfff90$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Thanks Tommy. Dave, when you come to Youngstown you'll see something you haven't seen in 12 years! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: [SEL] Portland > The weather looks perfect for Portland. Earlier in the week the forecast > was for 50 and 60 percent chances of rain. Its now 10%, highs in the mid > 80's and partly cloudy. > > I'll be there on Wed. morning and hope to set up in the same spot on the > blacktop. See everyone soon! > > BTW Dave R., I'll be bringing about 100 lbs or more of Babbitt for you to > give to Rick and the Tod Engine project. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Aug 16 10:53:43 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:53:43 +0200 Subject: [SEL] my portland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080816194104.00c1f7b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> >Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:35:02 -0400 >From: "Paul Waugh" >Subject: [SEL] my portland >To: "SEL" >Message-ID: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0 at PaulNew> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > >I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for >fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof >of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. I have had fun >getting my engines around and better located on a trailer. As you can see >I am at the low end of the spectrum, nothing valuable, nothing exotic, but >I love to here them run, and appreciate where this country might be with >out them, even Maytag has a place in history. > >So today I had my own Portland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cSMCwC3ho > >Paul - IN Hi Paul, Great stuff! Maybe a worldwide crank up on one of the "Portland days" would be in order for all of us who cannot be there. Our club show is the first weekend of September - this was the same time as Portland about 2 years ago but now Portland is a bit earlier. Maybe I'll also start a few of the old guys (and gals) just to celebrate "Portland" next week! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From old_iron at msn.com Sat Aug 16 11:27:51 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:27:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: Dave says to let you know you have your "usual" spot at Portland. Thanks for the Babbit and he will make sure it gets delivered safely now that he has new tires on his trailer. xoxoxo Peg Pfeiffer > From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:20:32 -0400> Subject: [SEL] Portland> > The weather looks perfect for Portland. Earlier in the week the forecast was for 50 and 60 percent chances of rain. Its now 10%, highs in the mid 80's and partly cloudy.> > I'll be there on Wed. morning and hope to set up in the same spot on the blacktop. See everyone soon!> > BTW Dave R., I'll be bringing about 100 lbs or more of Babbitt for you to give to Rick and the Tod Engine project.> > Tommy Turner> Magnolia, KY> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 16 20:58:03 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:58:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <1A76070970BF4B40B5CF1D6885AF25D9@tommydk7hxjr4h> Thanks Peg! We'll see everyone in a few days. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Pfeiffer Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland > > Dave says to let you know you have your "usual" spot at Portland. Thanks > for the Babbit and he will make sure it gets delivered safely now that he > has new tires on his trailer. > > xoxoxo > Peg Pfeiffer > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 17 04:25:55 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:25:55 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <1A76070970BF4B40B5CF1D6885AF25D9@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> <1A76070970BF4B40B5CF1D6885AF25D9@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <6f6025160808170425r5cef454dl444278aa8ad75c41@mail.gmail.com> On 17/08/2008, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Thanks Peg! We'll see everyone in a few days. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY We have just had two good days at Buckley MI show, we drive down south today to Mishawaka then Lafayette. Will be at Portland Wed/Thuir/Friday. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jbcast at charter.net Sun Aug 17 13:46:53 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:46:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] my portland In-Reply-To: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Message-ID: <20080817164653.O1M2H.18072.root@mp20> > I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. I have had fun getting my engines around and better located on a trailer. As you can see I am at the low end of the spectrum, nothing valuable, nothing exotic, but I love to here them run, and appreciate where this country might be with out them, even Maytag has a place in history. > > So today I had my own Portland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cSMCwC3ho > > Paul - IN Paul, we plan to leave for Portland early Tuesday morning, sorry you can't make it, but your show looks nice. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From old_iron at msn.com Sun Aug 17 14:47:28 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:47:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland/Baraboo Message-ID: It only took us 3 hours to get home today from Baraboo, had a great dinner with Craig Morrison, Reg Ingold and 20 other assorted SEL friends yesterday evening. We could not have had better weather at Baraboo. Glad to see they have lowered the possibility of precipitation at Portland, now they just need to lower the temperature as well by a few degrees. I have to work tomorrow, so we will leave for Portland Tuesday morning. See you all soon, Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:25:55 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland> > On 17/08/2008, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:> > Thanks Peg! We'll see everyone in a few days.> >> > Tommy Turner> > Magnolia, KY> > We have just had two good days at Buckley MI show, we drive down> south today to Mishawaka then Lafayette.> > Will be at Portland Wed/Thuir/Friday.> > Peter> -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Aug 18 12:57:58 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:57:58 GMT Subject: [SEL] Portland here we come Message-ID: <20080818.125758.21306.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. WE just crossed over from Canada at Detroit. After two days in D.C., two days in New York, and two days at Niagara Falls we are anxious to see a lot of engine friends Wednesday and Thursday. Ron Haskell ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m2XhjurU2d1NOEmp94Ltp3oPI1XEq2wON07gXSlqxSXStQh/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 05:50:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:50:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good for the week. We are off out to have a look round the local antique malls and bookshops today, serious engine stuff starts tomorrow! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 20:09:12 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet Message-ID: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 19 20:24:04 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:24:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work ;-)))))))))) Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia Ph: 61-266453455 http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? > > Jay M Bernard > Thibodaux, LA > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Tue Aug 19 20:58:50 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:58:50 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the FMZ, I would. :-) Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Peter Lowe wrote: > Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work > ;-)))))))))) > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > > > > >> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >> >> Jay M Bernard >> Thibodaux, LA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Tue Aug 19 21:27:37 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:27:37 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> What hp? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Harris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the > FMZ, I would. :-) > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >> ;-)))))))))) >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> Ph: 61-266453455 >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >> >> >> >> >>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>> >>> Jay M Bernard >>> Thibodaux, LA >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 21:30:38 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <42524.53275.qm@web55913.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Yeah, I need to re-machine some parts on my Stover's Mixer and fix the jerry-rigged timer. then it'll be running for the first time in 3 years! Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Al Harris wrote: From: Al Harris Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 10:58 PM If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the FMZ, I would. :-) Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Peter Lowe wrote: > Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work > ;-)))))))))) > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > > > > >> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >> >> Jay M Bernard >> Thibodaux, LA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 21:34:24 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Stover KA wth ignitor? Message-ID: <394979.71697.qm@web55914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I've got a Stover KA 11/2 hp that i believe is a 1921 model. When i got the engine, there was a spark plug plate in the original what i believe to have been ignitor hole. Every example of this engine i've seen has an EK mag, and a rating of 2hp.? Now, if mine originally came with an EK, why go through the trouble of making a spark plug plate? The original Trip on the pushrod is also missing.?? Anyone else out there seen a 11/2 HP KA with an ignitor? Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA From jopeter at omninet.net.au Tue Aug 19 21:48:58 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:48:58 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: Hey Chester ...have you got room in your shed for some engines ?The time has come for me to get rid of some ,they owe me nothing so they are a gift . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Smith" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > What hp? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > >> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >> FMZ, I would. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>> ;-)))))))))) >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>> >>>> Jay M Bernard >>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 19 21:54:03 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:54:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> You now have 5 days while they are all at Portland to make those parts by hand Al. ;-))) When Glen comes up we must get together or meet up at Rusty Iron. Peter. > If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the > FMZ, I would. :-) > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >> ;-)))))))))) >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> Ph: 61-266453455 >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >> >> >> >> >>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>> >>> Jay M Bernard >>> Thibodaux, LA >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Tue Aug 19 22:50:14 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:50:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <48ABB096.4040409@rustic-engines.com> We *can't* do both? :-\ Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Peter Lowe wrote: > You now have 5 days while they are all at Portland to make those parts by > hand Al. ;-))) > When Glen comes up we must get together or meet up at Rusty Iron. > > Peter. > > > > > >> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >> FMZ, I would. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >> >>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>> ;-)))))))))) >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>> >>>> Jay M Bernard >>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Tue Aug 19 23:14:54 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:14:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <48ABB65E.1090305@rustic-engines.com> Hi Chester (I've been napping). :-) It's a 1.5hp Throttle governed (1923). > http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/fmz/fmz01.jpg I require a 48diag tooth cam gear, push rod and the throttle governing gear (although it is not required to get the engine running). I have adapted a 3hp mixer to the head and have a Lucas AB33 already mounted on the side-plate. Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Chester Smith wrote: > What hp? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > > >> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >> FMZ, I would. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >> >>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>> ;-)))))))))) >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>> >>>> Jay M Bernard >>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Tue Aug 19 23:22:44 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:22:44 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <00b201c9028d$2894bb50$210110ac@Chester> Hi Peter, i always have room for engines, what do you have?, Katmach is sept 13th, i will probaly not be showing as Jordan will be in hospital in Perth, but will hopefully be there on Sat to look around, should be heaps of tractors & cars, not to many engine guys, wayne with his chainsaws, ken mcileroy from collie, brian from busselton are the only confirmations at this stage, should be some others, i should be at Albany, probally bring my 2 fairbanks morse eclipses, cheers, Chester. From: "peter ogborne" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Hey Chester ...have you got room in your shed for some engines ?The time > has > come for me to get rid of some ,they owe me nothing so they are a gift . From jopeter at omninet.net.au Wed Aug 20 00:05:27 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:27 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> <00b201c9028d$2894bb50$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <4F93BA9207C54AC78A07F4473279646A@your9e74d7efa7> Chester ...Ok ,there is a West Ho marine engine ,A Chapman Super pup ,A Blaxland Rae and a Hornet ,all inboard marine engines ,ready to go.Three out boards ,a Tornado ,a Clinton and another the name i have forgotten for the momentThere is that Otis elevator governor from the original Goldsbrough Mort build in St Geo Tce Perth.There is a Douglas Air cooled engine and a Sundial B . As you can see I am having a clean out .I may keep one of the above to swap with some one in town here for a Lister air cooled diesel . I am sure there are one or two others that I have forgotten. Any that you dont want I will offer to TOMC. I am just keeping the little Stuart Turner and the big engine that I am still working on ....I am going to just look at small engines from now on. Yes I will be at Kat Mach. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Smith" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Hi Peter, i always have room for engines, what do you have?, > Katmach is sept 13th, i will probaly not be showing as Jordan will be in > hospital in Perth, but will hopefully be there on Sat to look around, > should > be heaps of tractors & cars, not to many engine guys, wayne with his > chainsaws, ken mcileroy from collie, brian from busselton are the only > confirmations at this stage, should be some others, i should be at Albany, > probally bring my 2 fairbanks morse eclipses, cheers, Chester. > > > > From: "peter ogborne" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > >> Hey Chester ...have you got room in your shed for some engines ?The time >> has >> come for me to get rid of some ,they owe me nothing so they are a gift . > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Wed Aug 20 00:43:55 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:43:55 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester><00b201c9028d$2894bb50$210110ac@Chester> <4F93BA9207C54AC78A07F4473279646A@your9e74d7efa7> Message-ID: <00c601c90298$81c44d20$210110ac@Chester> Peter, i am interested, i will catch up with you shortly, i have a air cooled lister diesel that you can have if needed, it is a parts only engine and is currently in serpentine but can get it down if you want it. (dont know what model). cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter ogborne" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Chester ...Ok ,there is a West Ho marine engine ,A Chapman Super pup ,A > Blaxland Rae and a Hornet ,all inboard marine engines ,ready to go.Three > out > boards ,a Tornado ,a Clinton and another the name i have forgotten for the > momentThere is that Otis elevator governor from the original Goldsbrough > Mort build in St Geo Tce Perth.There is a Douglas Air cooled engine and a > Sundial B . > As you can see I am having a clean out .I may keep one of the above to > swap > with some one in town here for a Lister air cooled diesel . > I am sure there are one or two others that I have forgotten. > Any that you dont want I will offer to TOMC. > I am just keeping the little Stuart Turner and the big engine that I am > still working on ....I am going to just look at small engines from now on. > Yes I will be at Kat Mach. From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Wed Aug 20 02:04:33 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:04:33 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> <48ABB65E.1090305@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <00d801c902a3$c39ad9c0$210110ac@Chester> ok i have a excess of 3hp parts thought i may of been able to help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Harris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Hi Chester (I've been napping). :-) > > It's a 1.5hp Throttle governed (1923). > >> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/fmz/fmz01.jpg > I require a 48diag tooth cam gear, push rod and the throttle governing > gear (although it is not required to get the engine running). > > I have adapted a 3hp mixer to the head and have a Lucas AB33 already > mounted on the side-plate. > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Chester Smith wrote: >> What hp? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Al Harris" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet >> >> >> >>> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >>> FMZ, I would. :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Al Harris >>> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >>> >>> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>>> ;-)))))))))) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>>> >>>>> Jay M Bernard >>>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Aug 20 02:26:07 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <00d801c902a3$c39ad9c0$210110ac@Chester> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> <48ABB65E.1090305@rustic-engines.com> <00d801c902a3$c39ad9c0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <48ABE32F.70300@rustic-engines.com> Thanks mate, maybe these posts will stir something up somewhere. Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Chester Smith wrote: > ok i have a excess of 3hp parts thought i may of been able to help. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > > >> Hi Chester (I've been napping). :-) >> >> It's a 1.5hp Throttle governed (1923). >> >> >>> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/fmz/fmz01.jpg >>> >> I require a 48diag tooth cam gear, push rod and the throttle governing >> gear (although it is not required to get the engine running). >> >> I have adapted a 3hp mixer to the head and have a Lucas AB33 already >> mounted on the side-plate. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Chester Smith wrote: >> >>> What hp? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Al Harris" >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >>>> FMZ, I would. :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Al Harris >>>> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >>>> >>>> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>>>> ;-)))))))))) >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Peter Lowe >>>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>>> Australia >>>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jay M Bernard >>>>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>>> > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Aug 20 03:44:38 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:44:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48ABB096.4040409@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <008201c902b1$befc1bf0$0200a8c0@PETER> Yeah, if you wanna. Peter > We *can't* do both? :-\ > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> You now have 5 days while they are all at Portland to make those parts by >> hand Al. ;-))) >> When Glen comes up we must get together or meet up at Rusty Iron. >> >> Peter. >> >> >> >> >> >>> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >>> FMZ, I would. :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Al Harris >>> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >>> >>> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>>> ;-)))))))))) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>>> >>>>> Jay M Bernard >>>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Aug 20 03:45:23 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:45:23 EDT Subject: [SEL] Stover KA wth ignitor? Message-ID: Jay, I am not a Stover expert, but if your engine originally came with an EK mag and a plate to modify the ignitor hole to spark plug, it could only mean that the engine was made during a production change from ignitor to spark plug. However, I would doubt that Stover would sell the engine that way. I would rather assume that your engine came with ignitor and someone changed it later to spark plug. There may be some Stover experts out there that can elaborate on this subject, but they may be at Portland!! All is quiet here in Concord, Va. We are very quickly headed from drought to severe drought conditions! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 04:38:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:38:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <008201c902b1$befc1bf0$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48ABB096.4040409@rustic-engines.com> <008201c902b1$befc1bf0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <6f6025160808200438v1beb69deo68daba22911e42f6@mail.gmail.com> On 20/08/2008, Peter Lowe wrote: First day today, we leave for Portland at 8am local time, will try and get some news back to to you guys during the three days we are at the show. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 20 16:43:42 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:43:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] my portland References: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Message-ID: <005501c9031e$9493dbb0$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> >I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for >fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof >of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. Print out your own insurance card man . Just pay attention , dont run over Leroy Clark, and nobody will care ! From oldengine at comcast.net Wed Aug 20 17:21:09 2008 From: oldengine at comcast.net (Harry) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:21:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> What's the scoop on the dinner Thursday night? Do I need reservations? (2) At Portland now, or should I say 5 miles south of Portland. Peter, I should catch you tomorrow at noon. -- Harry Message: 18 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:38:17 +0100 From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet To: "The SEL email discussion list" Message-ID: <6f6025160808200438v1beb69deo68daba22911e42f6 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 20/08/2008, Peter Lowe wrote: First day today, we leave for Portland at 8am local time, will try and get some news back to to you guys during the three days we are at the show. Peter From avanti_64 at juno.com Wed Aug 20 18:22:52 2008 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:22:52 GMT Subject: [SEL] Stover KA wth ignitor? Message-ID: <20080820.212252.27480.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Hi Jay, we currently have a 1924 Stover KA 2hp with an ignitor/Webster mag as our 2008 raffle engine. It is throttle governed also. Joe Kelley Picture at: www.oldengine.org/members/mapa/ Click on the 2008 raffle engine to see a picture of it. ____________________________________________________________ Need cash? Click to get a loan. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiekGqrMP4bC0qJemw9c0CzElRkBE7puyHQe1jklYTy6kwEpX/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 19:25:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:25:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> References: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> Message-ID: <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> On 21/08/2008, Harry wrote: > What's the scoop on the dinner Thursday night? Do I need reservations? (2) > > At Portland now, or should I say 5 miles south of Portland. > > Peter, I should catch you tomorrow at noon. > > -- Harry The ATIS dinner and charity auction takes place at the "Back 40 Junction" restuarant in Decatur, north of Portland. It starts at 6pm sharp. Reservations are not generally required, but I will let Dave Rotigel knows that you and Jeannie will be coming. The Charity Auction is held after the meal, participants bring along bits and pieces for the auction which is held in the dining room area. The restuarant is on the left-hand side, about 2/3rds of the way up through the town, we all pay for our individual meals. See you tomorrow, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 19:33:53 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:33:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808201933l20eed199vd0d82313a1f8c37c@mail.gmail.com> On 19/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good > for the week. > > We are off out to have a look round the local antique malls and > bookshops today, serious engine stuff starts tomorrow! > Temperatures up to 91 degrees today, weather almost perfect with a light breeze. Saw 3 R&V engines in the sale area, two verticals imported from Argentina and a small horizontal, will get details for Peter Lowe tomorrow. Most of the regulars are here, exhibitor attendance looks about normal, but visitors seemed thin on the ground. Beverley slaughtered the National Anthem as usual, but generally it was pretty much business as usual. We came away a bit earlier than usual as we had been out in the sun all day without a break taking pictures, and were pretty bushed by 4pm. More tomorrow. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Aug 21 07:37:17 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:37:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808201933l20eed199vd0d82313a1f8c37c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: That's one of the highlights I remember from the times I attended Portland. Remember - it's polite to keep the grimaces and groans to a minimum while she does her thing. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 09:34 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland ............................snippety snip.............................. > Beverley slaughtered the National Anthem as > usual, but generally it > was pretty much business as usual. > > We came away a bit earlier than usual as we had > been out in the sun > all day without a break taking pictures, and were > pretty bushed by > 4pm. > > More tomorrow. > > Peter From old_iron at msn.com Thu Aug 21 19:45:53 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:45:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> References: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Just to let you all know the auction brought in $2,153.50. With just 34 people bidding, I think this was pretty good. Have a great day, Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:25:01 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland> > On 21/08/2008, Harry wrote:> > What's the scoop on the dinner Thursday night? Do I need reservations? (2)> >> > At Portland now, or should I say 5 miles south of Portland.> >> > Peter, I should catch you tomorrow at noon.> >> > -- Harry> > The ATIS dinner and charity auction takes place at the "Back 40> Junction" restuarant in Decatur, north of Portland. It starts at 6pm> sharp. Reservations are not generally required, but I will let Dave> Rotigel knows that you and Jeannie will be coming.> > The Charity Auction is held after the meal, participants bring along> bits and pieces for the auction which is held in the dining room area.> > The restuarant is on the left-hand side, about 2/3rds of the way up> through the town, we all pay for our individual meals.> > See you tomorrow,> > Peter> > -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 04:55:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:55:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction In-Reply-To: References: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808220455j5790485w4847cbf7b59719d9@mail.gmail.com> On 22/08/2008, William J Pfeiffer Sr wrote: > > Just to let you all know the auction brought in $2,153.50. > > With just 34 people bidding, I think this was pretty good. > > Have a great day, > > Peg Pfeiffer Thanks to Peg & Bill for organizing the bidder's tickets and keeping track of the sometimes hectic bidding, it was a good evening, enjoyed by everyone. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 22 16:44:16 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808220455j5790485w4847cbf7b59719d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <248426.1132.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to both of you for the info. Many of us wish we could be at Portland. BTW,,, It was great to meet you at Buckley. Alan Bowen --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Listerdiesel wrote: From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:55 AM On 22/08/2008, William J Pfeiffer Sr wrote: > > Just to let you all know the auction brought in $2,153.50. > > With just 34 people bidding, I think this was pretty good. > > Have a great day, > > Peg Pfeiffer Thanks to Peg & Bill for organizing the bidder's tickets and keeping track of the sometimes hectic bidding, it was a good evening, enjoyed by everyone. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From old_iron at msn.com Fri Aug 22 18:15:05 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:15:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Pat Ruston In-Reply-To: <248426.1132.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6f6025160808220455j5790485w4847cbf7b59719d9@mail.gmail.com> <248426.1132.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mr. Ruston passed away last Feb. and his wife would like to sell a Stearns Light Plant - Water cooled Please contact his wife at ruston at orc.caif intersted. He was a list memeber > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Aug 23 05:08:21 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:08:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> On 19/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good > for the week. We almost melted yesterday, temperatures up in the mid to high 90's and very humid with hazy sunshine. Still lots to see, we have taken 700+ pictures and loads of videos during the three days and still found things we hadn't seen on the first two days. Exhibitor numbers seemed to be about par for the course, but people visiting didn't match previous years IMO. Butt buggies were a nuisance, especially those that just stopped where they fancied and blocked the road for others while they looked at something that took their interest. We saw many new engines this trip, which was encouraging. The Heer flat twin that we videoed and pictured last year was represented this year by the water-cooled version of the same engine. A Racine inverted twin was a surprise, plus a F-M railcar refrigeration engine which was new to us. A big compressor engine in the OFES section was impressive, but really needed a silencer of some kind, it was painful to be near to! Attendees: Rob & Kelley, Mike & Susan Tucker, Mel & Steve Webre, Curt, Missy & Devin Holland, Keith Kinney, Arnie Fero, Dave Rotigel, Tommy Turner, J B Castagnos, Craig Morrison, Reggie Ingold, Mike & Steve Royster, Luke & Shirley & Berky Tonnenberger plus others I cannot remember for now. We stayed latish on Friday, then got called away to see a contact on the sales area, which then developed into a long discussion on engines, so it was late before we got away. Temperatures were still in the mid 80's at 8pm! We did lookback over to the List area before we left the show, but it looked as though the gathering had dispersed, so we weren't able to say goodbye to everyone. It was a good show for us, couldn't have been better really, possibly slightly cooler weather, but that is a minor complaint. Thanks to everyone for making us welcome! Peter & Rita -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ddotto at cableone.net Sun Aug 24 08:46:21 2008 From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:46:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> Thanks for your efforts Peter; looking forward to seeing the pictures. It makes it nice for those of us who can't always make it to the show. Dave Dave Otto Boise, Idaho UAS -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:08 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland On 19/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good > for the week. We almost melted yesterday, temperatures up in the mid to high 90's and very humid with hazy sunshine. Still lots to see, we have taken 700+ pictures and loads of videos during the three days and still found things we hadn't seen on the first two days. Exhibitor numbers seemed to be about par for the course, but people visiting didn't match previous years IMO. Butt buggies were a nuisance, especially those that just stopped where they fancied and blocked the road for others while they looked at something that took their interest. We saw many new engines this trip, which was encouraging. The Heer flat twin that we videoed and pictured last year was represented this year by the water-cooled version of the same engine. A Racine inverted twin was a surprise, plus a F-M railcar refrigeration engine which was new to us. A big compressor engine in the OFES section was impressive, but really needed a silencer of some kind, it was painful to be near to! Attendees: Rob & Kelley, Mike & Susan Tucker, Mel & Steve Webre, Curt, Missy & Devin Holland, Keith Kinney, Arnie Fero, Dave Rotigel, Tommy Turner, J B Castagnos, Craig Morrison, Reggie Ingold, Mike & Steve Royster, Luke & Shirley & Berky Tonnenberger plus others I cannot remember for now. We stayed latish on Friday, then got called away to see a contact on the sales area, which then developed into a long discussion on engines, so it was late before we got away. Temperatures were still in the mid 80's at 8pm! We did lookback over to the List area before we left the show, but it looked as though the gathering had dispersed, so we weren't able to say goodbye to everyone. It was a good show for us, couldn't have been better really, possibly slightly cooler weather, but that is a minor complaint. Thanks to everyone for making us welcome! Peter & Rita -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3381 (20080822) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From oldengin at verizon.net Sun Aug 24 14:06:23 2008 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:06:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> Message-ID: <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Maybe the best show ever!!!!!!!! I had a GREAT time and have (at this moment) secured camping space for next year already. Leroy From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Aug 24 19:24:30 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:24:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nRN1nzD2GUwN5Xdo3kftic4XCGFgPuy3lLWbmSb36UIXMAd/ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 24 20:05:15 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures References: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <6D17A67C91194350BF82354057A4E40E@FAMILY> Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the folder past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading the pictures? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures > Hi all. > Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nRN1nzD2GUwN5Xdo3kftic4XCGFgPuy3lLWbmSb36UIXMAd/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun Aug 24 20:13:58 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:13:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <6D17A67C91194350BF82354057A4E40E@FAMILY> References: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> <6D17A67C91194350BF82354057A4E40E@FAMILY> Message-ID: <2074C6680C0E4602A75FF0BC46E82315@PML> No problems with the pics here. Some very nice engines. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the folder past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading the pictures? Paul From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Aug 24 20:22:04 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:22:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Paul. Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't even work for me. Try this then arrow forward. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#523816884 6633448786 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" writes: > Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even > > downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the > folder > past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading > the > pictures? > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcFkP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ From FRM8198 at aol.com Sun Aug 24 20:38:01 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:38:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: Thanks for sharing. In a message dated 8/24/2008 7:29:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 20:42:55 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:42:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <003c01c90664$aaa005c0$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Worked for me twice; once about 10 minutes ago then again just before sending this? Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Hi Paul. Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't even work for me. Try this then arrow forward. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#52381688 4 6633448786 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" writes: > Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even > > downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the > folder > past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading > the > pictures? > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcF kP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gibsongus at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 22:09:54 2008 From: gibsongus at earthlink.net (Gus) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:09:54 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: <6292171.1219640994550.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ron does the tree stump engine have brass rings?? I think you liked the looks of the Lambert engine,,, -----Original Message----- >From: rdhaskell at juno.com >Sent: Aug 24, 2008 8:22 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland pictures > >Hi Paul. >Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't >even work for me. > Try this then arrow forward. >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#523816884 >6633448786 > >Ron Haskell >rdhaskell at juno.com >Riverside, California USA >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > >On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" > writes: >> Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even >> >> downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the >> folder >> past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading >> the >> pictures? >> >> Paul >____________________________________________________________ >Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcFkP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rholtzer at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 22:30:11 2008 From: rholtzer at earthlink.net (Robert L. Holtzer) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:30:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: Very nice, Ron. Thanks. Bob Holtzer At 07:24 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >Hi all. >Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. > >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802 > >Ron Haskell >rdhaskell at juno.com >Riverside, California USA >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell >____________________________________________________________ >Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nRN1nzD2GUwN5Xdo3kftic4XCGFgPuy3lLWbmSb36UIXMAd/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Aug 25 07:49:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:49:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ron: Thanks. They came through to the Redneck Riviera fine. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > In a message dated 8/24/2008 7:29:48 P.M. Pacific > Daylight Time, > rdhaskell at juno.com writes: > > Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 11:11:00 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:11:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures References: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <3A02601016E74683AE0000115D4567D4@FAMILY> Got it Ron. Super great pictures, the color is very sharp and clear. Thanks for posting them. Does anyone have any contact information on these engines? I have attached a picture taken from Ron's pictures. I would like to contact this owner. http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/?action=view¤t=PortlandEngine.jpg Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland pictures > Hi Paul. > Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't > even work for me. > Try this then arrow forward. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#523816884 > 6633448786 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" > writes: >> Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even >> >> downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the >> folder >> past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading >> the >> pictures? >> >> Paul > ____________________________________________________________ > Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcFkP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 25 15:03:02 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:03:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1219701782.48b32c1630700@webmail.city-net.com> Gee Peter, Methinks you were suffering heatstroke. A gang of us were in the SEL area doing serious damage to the beer stocks till well past midnight Friday night. We even had a couple of yellow dogs providing atmosphere (and mosquito repellent). See ya, Arnie Quoting Listerdiesel : > We stayed latish on Friday, then got called away to see a contact on > the sales area, which then developed into a long discussion on > engines, so it was late before we got away. Temperatures were still in > the mid 80's at 8pm! We did lookback over to the List area before we > left the show, but it looked as though the gathering had dispersed, so > we weren't able to say goodbye to everyone. From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 15:41:22 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:41:22 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Looking for someone Message-ID: <44EEE791D8024B108ACDA91A6BA33033@FAMILY> Does anyone have the e-mail address for Skip and Jean Barnes of Monticello, Indiana? I would like to contact them. Thanks, Paul From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Aug 25 16:51:46 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:51:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for someone Message-ID: <20080825.165147.612.2.rdhaskell@juno.com> nformation on Vicki Ball to Eugene L Barney in Monticello, IN ... Monticello, Indiana, IN phone number of Jean Barnes in Monticello (574) 583-8723 ... Click here for the detail-page of Barnes Skip, Monticello ... www.userinstinct.net/address-7307-9.htm - Similar pages Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:41:22 -0500 "Paul Maples" writes: > Does anyone have the e-mail address for Skip and Jean Barnes of > Monticello, Indiana? I would like to contact them. > > Thanks, > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Cut the cord from your computer. Click to get the latest wireless access products. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m8bgzGEDX71qeQqPhXn3wHf5HxS4SrLwx4sX7q8eJ35ILPX/ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 17:18:13 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:18:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Looking for someone References: <20080825.165147.612.2.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <062A456FA47F4BFCA24642228F531EDC@FAMILY> Thanks Ron, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for someone > nformation on Vicki Ball to Eugene L Barney in Monticello, IN ... > Monticello, Indiana, IN phone number of Jean Barnes in Monticello (574) > 583-8723 ... Click here for the detail-page of Barnes Skip, Monticello > ... > www.userinstinct.net/address-7307-9.htm - Similar pages > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:41:22 -0500 "Paul Maples" > writes: >> Does anyone have the e-mail address for Skip and Jean Barnes of >> Monticello, Indiana? I would like to contact them. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul > ____________________________________________________________ > Cut the cord from your computer. Click to get the latest wireless access > products. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m8bgzGEDX71qeQqPhXn3wHf5HxS4SrLwx4sX7q8eJ35ILPX/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ilifa at internode.on.net Mon Aug 25 17:50:08 2008 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:50:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <3A02601016E74683AE0000115D4567D4@FAMILY> References: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> <3A02601016E74683AE0000115D4567D4@FAMILY> Message-ID: The Portland pictures worked for me, but one on another forum would not. I was was advised to try another browser and that did the trick. Worth a try. Eric From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 05:42:02 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:42:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <1219701782.48b32c1630700@webmail.city-net.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> <1219701782.48b32c1630700@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808260542j77942fdcu91297b8579f10db6@mail.gmail.com> On 25/08/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Gee Peter, Methinks you were suffering heatstroke. > > A gang of us were in the SEL area doing serious damage to the beer stocks > till > well past midnight Friday night. We even had a couple of yellow dogs > providing > atmosphere (and mosquito repellent). > > See ya, Arnie Hmmm, must admit we didn't see anything obvious, and we almost called up on Saturday morning, but other arrangements had to take priority. Got to find Dave his sockets now... Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Aug 26 09:14:59 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:14:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister diesel clones In-Reply-To: <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: HI all, A friend is interested in purchasing one of the Indian made Lister diesel clones to run a back up generator. He has found a few but is concerned about the quality of castings, machining etc. specifically wobble in cam gear idlers and tolerances out of whack. Does anyone have any feedback on these? At one time there was an Importer here in western N.C. that sold them but I haven't heard anything in years from him. I seem to remember there was a problem importing them to the states due to pollution laws etc. Thanks for any help, Steve> _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ From rotigel at alltel.net Tue Aug 26 09:52:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:52:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister diesel clones In-Reply-To: References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: John Culp got one years ago. He seemed VERY pleased with it. It was not the quality (casting, machining etc.) of an Otto or Ohio, but it seemed to work just fine! Dave On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > HI all, A friend is interested in purchasing one of the Indian made > Lister diesel clones to run a back up generator. He has found a few > but is concerned about the quality of castings, machining etc. > specifically wobble in cam gear idlers and tolerances out of whack. > Does anyone have any feedback on these? At one time there was an > Importer here in western N.C. that sold them but I haven't heard > anything in years from him. I seem to remember there was a problem > importing them to the states due to pollution laws etc. Thanks for > any help, Steve> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web > with Windows?. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 26 09:44:17 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:44:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister diesel clones References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP><004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: <005201c9079a$fb4ec010$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Go to www.utterpower.com and order the Listeroid CD. He has quite a few hints and tips about how to improve the Listeroids and he sells new idler gears. There is also someone online who sells offset idler gear bolts to correct the gear lash problems. Get one with roller bearings. Disassemble it, clean out the crankcase, put in new big end bearings, put on a new fuel filter, clean off the buildup of paint on wear surfaces and reassemble. I had one for a while. It was a 6/1 Metro. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Lister diesel clones HI all, A friend is interested in purchasing one of the Indian made Lister diesel clones to run a back up generator. He has found a few but is concerned about the quality of castings, machining etc. specifically wobble in cam gear idlers and tolerances out of whack. Does anyone have any feedback on these? At one time there was an Importer here in western N.C. that sold them but I haven't heard anything in years from him. I seem to remember there was a problem importing them to the states due to pollution laws etc. Thanks for any help, Steve> _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 15:28:55 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 13:22:39 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:22:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures Message-ID: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> Unusually for us, we have started the videos before we do the pictures, although we do have some of both ready to roll. Video's, starting with Buckley: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm There are 13 or 14 ready now and we will be adding more during the evening. Pictures, starting with Portland: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm There three pages of 24 pictures per page ready. No captions yet. The last files are going over to Stationary-Engine now, so leave it for half an hour or so. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 06:27:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:27:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Avery on the sawmill and Case on the Prony Brake at Buckley MI Message-ID: <6f6025160808270627s1680efd0v9a4bacfb73298566@mail.gmail.com> Rick's reply reminded me that I haven't posted these yet: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08004.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08005.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08015.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08016.wmv They are widescreen format and should run as buffered file streams in Windows Media Player 9 or above. There are 64 separate files on the first DVD disk that we are editing, four disks in total, so plenty more to come. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Aug 27 16:50:32 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:50:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000701c9089f$b2df9830$742d0556@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Bernard" To: "SEL" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!) Who made this thing?? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now... http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA Hi Jay, try quoting the address below. Good bargain by the way!! http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQss Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 27 16:50:53 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:50:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c9089f$be7b8c80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!) Who made this thing?? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now... ////////////////////////// Nelson Brothers , and that is the later , improved style with the underslung governor . ( I'm not really sure what they improved though , but the governor cant fall into the crank anymore !! ) Looks like you got your money's worth. If he'll take 100 for the IHC on a factory skid that's sitting right behind it , you can call it a day . Chuck Balyeat http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 06:07:39 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:07:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections Message-ID: <6f6025160808270607j5758d7a6g111737aeb5f2603e@mail.gmail.com> Having had a decent bit of sleep and a chance to reflect on the previous two weeks' activities, I thought about a few notes for future trips. Travelling was fine with no major problems, fuel was reasonably priced (for us) and our hire car was quite up to the job. Our only real problems were at Heathrow on our return. Buckley was a very good show from any perspective. There was much more variety than we were used to, and much more in the way of alternative interests on show, such as the steam shed, the oilfield engine shed, the woodworking shop, the sawmill and the Prony Brake. As the club owns all the land it is much easier for them to have fixed exhibits than the shows that use other facilities. There were also places to sit and rest, without buying something. Most important for us old 'uns that need to take it a little more easily than before! The lack of seats or benches at Portland has always been something we have commented on. Travelling down south between the shows we had a look at the USS Silversides submarine at Muskegon, and we were able to reflect how well the USA does its visitor attractions, and this goes for the USS Pampanito in SFO as well. Portland was everything it ever was, and we found more engines that we hadn't seen before. Being almost 'regulars' now, we were able to talk with many people who we had seen before and catch up with most of the ATIS gang. We didn't seem to have as much time on our hands this year for some reason, possibly because of the extra pictures and videos that we took while walking round. The Charity Auction was fun, and thanks to everyone who was involved, we always look forward to the dinner and auction as part of the whole Portland show. One comment we would like to make, is that the arrangement with the separate back room that we had last year worked better in our view than having it in the main room. This is more obvious when you look at the videos, the background noise from the other diners is too high, and masks out a lot of what is being said in the auction area. We are editing the videos as I write, and we should be able to start posting them soon. This isn't a criticism per se, just an observation. We both felt that items might have sold better/higher priced if the descriptions had been clearer to those watching. Dick did a good job as auctioneer in our view. We almost called back Saturday morning as we had missed our good byes on Friday, but in the end we decided to carry on with our arrangements as we still had quite a few things left to do before we went home. Guns and Brits don't often mix, but we had a real blast with Jim & Jan Dunmyer on the Monday. Jim had bought a new handgun, a Ruger LCP, which he had to wait for as there was an order backlog. We went with Jim to Cabelas huge store at Dundee MI to collect the gun, and saw for ourselves the paperwork and checks that he had to go through before he could actually pay for the gun. Then he had to take it to the Sheriff's office to have it safety checked as well! Back at Jim's place we had an impromptu shooting session with the new gun, plus three others including a .45 (with reduced charges in the bullets) Very interesting! Then Jim asked Rita if she wanted a go, and she did.... very surprised indeed! Rita also shot them single-handedly while I had both hands on the gun when I fired. I think Rita was less concerned than I was at actually shooting the guns, and she tried three out of four if I remember correctly. The .45 was easiest to handle for me, as it had a full-sized handgrip and being heavier than Jim's carry guns it absorbed more of the recoil than the little ones. One of the guns was a real animal, it had a very light frame and kicked quite viciously, didn't like that at all. All too soon it was airport time and we were at Detroit checking our luggage and hire car. We had bought a load of stuff, including a cylinder head for the Onan W3S, a 4" thick Kohler manual set and other stuff including tools and presents. Fortunately Northwest's check-in didn't look at the weights of the bags. Flight home was quicker than scheduled, we landed at 06.46am, but we hit delays and problems at Heathrow. Our son was in the locality on time and we were out of the airport and on the way home in the morning rush hour by 08.05am. Home just before 10.30am and after a quick visit to the factory, we both crawled into bed, we had been awake for just on 24 hours continuously, apart from a catnap on the plane. Thanks to everyone for the great hospitality, especially Jim & Jan, and for making our trip so enjoyable, of the five trips we have made to Portland, this one was the best! Peter & Rita -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Aug 27 17:34:52 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:34:52 EDT Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: Jay, Great buy. The Wico mag is worth twice that amount! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Aug 27 17:41:54 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections References: <6f6025160808270607j5758d7a6g111737aeb5f2603e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006d01c908a6$de5007f0$726f4b47@mikecomp> I am thankful that you continue to make the trip, enjoy our country and content, and accept us in spite of ourselves! Thanks for your comments, pictures and videos. You do us proud. Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: ; "Stationary-Engine" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections > Having had a decent bit of sleep and a chance to reflect on the > previous two weeks' activities, I thought about a few notes for future > trips. > > Travelling was fine with no major problems, fuel was reasonably priced > (for us) and our hire car was quite up to the job. Our only real > problems were at Heathrow on our return. > > Buckley was a very good show from any perspective. There was much more > variety than we were used to, and much more in the way of alternative > interests on show, such as the steam shed, the oilfield engine shed, > the woodworking shop, the sawmill and the Prony Brake. As the club > owns all the land it is much easier for them to have fixed exhibits > than the shows that use other facilities. > > There were also places to sit and rest, without buying something. Most > important for us old 'uns that need to take it a little more easily > than before! The lack of seats or benches at Portland has always been > something we have commented on. > > Travelling down south between the shows we had a look at the USS > Silversides submarine at Muskegon, and we were able to reflect how > well the USA does its visitor attractions, and this goes for the USS > Pampanito in SFO as well. > > Portland was everything it ever was, and we found more engines that we > hadn't seen before. Being almost 'regulars' now, we were able to talk > with many people who we had seen before and catch up with most of the > ATIS gang. We didn't seem to have as much time on our hands this year > for some reason, possibly because of the extra pictures and videos > that we took while walking round. > > The Charity Auction was fun, and thanks to everyone who was involved, > we always look forward to the dinner and auction as part of the whole > Portland show. > > One comment we would like to make, is that the arrangement with the > separate back room that we had last year worked better in our view > than having it in the main room. This is more obvious when you look at > the videos, the background noise from the other diners is too high, > and masks out a lot of what is being said in the auction area. We are > editing the videos as I write, and we should be able to start posting > them soon. > > This isn't a criticism per se, just an observation. We both felt that > items might have sold better/higher priced if the descriptions had > been clearer to those watching. Dick did a good job as auctioneer in > our view. > > We almost called back Saturday morning as we had missed our good byes > on Friday, but in the end we decided to carry on with our arrangements > as we still had quite a few things left to do before we went home. > > Guns and Brits don't often mix, but we had a real blast with Jim & Jan > Dunmyer on the Monday. Jim had bought a new handgun, a Ruger LCP, > which he had to wait for as there was an order backlog. We went with > Jim to Cabelas huge store at Dundee MI to collect the gun, and saw for > ourselves the paperwork and checks that he had to go through before he > could actually pay for the gun. Then he had to take it to the > Sheriff's office to have it safety checked as well! > > Back at Jim's place we had an impromptu shooting session with the new > gun, plus three others including a .45 (with reduced charges in the > bullets) Very interesting! Then Jim asked Rita if she wanted a go, > and she did.... very surprised indeed! Rita also shot them > single-handedly while I had both hands on the gun when I fired. > > I think Rita was less concerned than I was at actually shooting the > guns, and she tried three out of four if I remember correctly. The .45 > was easiest to handle for me, as it had a full-sized handgrip and > being heavier than Jim's carry guns it absorbed more of the recoil > than the little ones. One of the guns was a real animal, it had a very > light frame and kicked quite viciously, didn't like that at all. > > All too soon it was airport time and we were at Detroit checking our > luggage and hire car. We had bought a load of stuff, including a > cylinder head for the Onan W3S, a 4" thick Kohler manual set and other > stuff including tools and presents. Fortunately Northwest's check-in > didn't look at the weights of the bags. > > Flight home was quicker than scheduled, we landed at 06.46am, but we > hit delays and problems at Heathrow. Our son was in the locality on > time and we were out of the airport and on the way home in the morning > rush hour by 08.05am. Home just before 10.30am and after a quick visit > to the factory, we both crawled into bed, we had been awake for just > on 24 hours continuously, apart from a catnap on the plane. > > Thanks to everyone for the great hospitality, especially Jim & Jan, > and for making our trip so enjoyable, of the five trips we have made > to Portland, this one was the best! > > Peter & Rita > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From clemsweller at etczone.com Wed Aug 27 17:45:14 2008 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:45:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> Nice buy! Not completely sure since the picture doesn't show the front, but many of these were Economy (Hercules). Flywheels and general appearance points me in that direction. Chuck Emsweller -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jay Bernard Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:29 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W 0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Wed Aug 27 18:19:36 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:19:36 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080827211936.GOP6G.442096.root@mp19> ---- Jay Bernard wrote: > I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? > Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? > Looks like a deal, Jay. For shipping check out freightquote.com. Commercial to commercial is cheaper than shipping to a residence. They don't want to go into subdivisions and fight loading problems. Picking up at the freight dock is also an option. J.B. Castagnos From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Wed Aug 27 18:41:50 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <20080827211936.GOP6G.442096.root@mp19> Message-ID: <005301c908af$3fe96850$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> FWIW I've checked freightquote a coupla times; if you call the 800 number on their website they'll give you an even better quote I found. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Looks like a deal, Jay. For shipping check out freightquote.com. Commercial to commercial is cheaper than shipping to a residence. They don't want to go into subdivisions and fight loading problems. Picking up at the freight dock is also an option. J.B. Castagnos From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Aug 27 20:14:54 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:14:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) References: <5.0.0.25.2.20080709101221.00c30b00@mail.net2000.com.au><000901c8e16b$49230040$0200a8c0@KAYE><1520A1F2B4F44182B6E9CC3C40A0D665@tommydk7hxjr4h> <026601c8e2f7$b6508970$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <71397724B1934E999982FE2BE58A33E7@tommydk7hxjr4h> Rick, I dropped off 100 lb of nickel babbitt with Dave Rotigel for the Tod Engine Foundation project. Not sure if Dave has dropped it off to you yet or will in the near future. I hope it helps. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered. I know > I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods > someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read > says > to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need > several hundred pounds of new Babbitt. > > I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have > remaining, > but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house > building > up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-( > > Maybe if you still have it next year... > > Rick Rowlands > Executive Director > Tod Engine Foundation > "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" > 2261 Hubbard Road > Youngstown, OH 44505 > 330-272-4089 > www.todengine.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > > >> Peter, >> I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you. I have some NOS >> Jackson >> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots. I'd sell it to >> you >> for $5 / lb. Its probably worth more than that for scrap. I bought >> about >> a >> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the >> guy >> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for one >> cylinders, Model T's and other applications. All that have used it are >> very >> pleased with it. Here's what it looks like: >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074 >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Lowe" >> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM >> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >> >> >>> Hi All >>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a >>> few >>> points. >>> >>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The >>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How many >>> thou. do I allow.? >>> 2. The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing >>> where >>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The >>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the >>> end, >>> I >>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would you >>> try >>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a >>> spiral >>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who >>> cares >>> it >>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining >>> also. >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm >>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical >>> R&V >>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at: >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm >>> >>> >>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit >>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$? >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Hi Peter >>>> >>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most >>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors. >>>> Composition: >>>> SN - Tin 88.20% >>>> AG - Silver 0.10% >>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00% >>>> CU - Copper 3.05% >>>> NI - Nickel 0 .15% >>>> SB - Antimony 7.50% >>>> >>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct. >>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, >>>> ID >>>> & length finish machining. >>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Ian Hill. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 >>> 7:50 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 > 6:43 PM > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Aug 28 06:00:09 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> Message-ID: Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" was "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for sure! Dave PS, All Economy engines sold by Sears were not manufactured by Hercules. Not sure of the date when Sears stopped marketing Hercules built engines under the "Economy" name--again Glenn would know off the top of his head--and I'm too lazy to look it up! PPS, Hercules built engines would have had a small square tag, not the oval as in the picture. -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On Aug 27, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote: > Nice buy! Not completely sure since the picture doesn't show the > front, but > many of these were Economy (Hercules). Flywheels and general > appearance > points me in that direction. > > Chuck Emsweller > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jay > Bernard > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:29 PM > To: SEL > Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! > > I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it > now, > $100!!!) Who made this thing?? > Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W > 0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie > wItemJay M Bernard > Thibodaux, LA > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gastzt at aol.com Thu Aug 28 06:07:40 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:07:40 EDT Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: Dave You ARE absolutely right-- I still have 2 of them---1 Hercules and 1 Economy! Fun stuff! ha Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Tex **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 28 07:54:01 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:54:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> Message-ID: <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I > believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" was > "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for > sure! Right on, Dave. We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo as the Economy engine. From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Aug 28 08:45:21 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:45:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) References: <5.0.0.25.2.20080709101221.00c30b00@mail.net2000.com.au><000901c8e16b$49230040$0200a8c0@KAYE><1520A1F2B4F44182B6E9CC3C40A0D665@tommydk7hxjr4h><026601c8e2f7$b6508970$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <71397724B1934E999982FE2BE58A33E7@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <000c01c90925$144efa90$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Tommy. Thanks. I will send off a thank you letter and copy of that price quote sheet to you. Repouring those bearings will be a big job, one which I'll tackle once we get our building erected. I won't be able to run the engine with its current bearings. Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > Rick, > I dropped off 100 lb of nickel babbitt with Dave Rotigel for the Tod > Engine Foundation project. Not sure if Dave has dropped it off to you yet > or will in the near future. I hope it helps. > > Tommy Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > > >>I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered. I >>know >> I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods >> someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read >> says >> to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need >> several hundred pounds of new Babbitt. >> >> I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have >> remaining, >> but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house >> building >> up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-( >> >> Maybe if you still have it next year... >> >> Rick Rowlands >> Executive Director >> Tod Engine Foundation >> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" >> 2261 Hubbard Road >> Youngstown, OH 44505 >> 330-272-4089 >> www.todengine.org >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >> >> >>> Peter, >>> I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you. I have some NOS >>> Jackson >>> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots. I'd sell it to >>> you >>> for $5 / lb. Its probably worth more than that for scrap. I bought >>> about >>> a >>> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the >>> guy >>> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for >>> one >>> cylinders, Model T's and other applications. All that have used it are >>> very >>> pleased with it. Here's what it looks like: >>> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074 >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a >>>> few >>>> points. >>>> >>>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The >>>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How >>>> many >>>> thou. do I allow.? >>>> 2. The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing >>>> where >>>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The >>>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the >>>> end, >>>> I >>>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would >>>> you >>>> try >>>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a >>>> spiral >>>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who >>>> cares >>>> it >>>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining >>>> also. >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm >>>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical >>>> R&V >>>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at: >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit >>>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Hi Peter >>>>> >>>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most >>>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors. >>>>> Composition: >>>>> SN - Tin 88.20% >>>>> AG - Silver 0.10% >>>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00% >>>>> CU - Copper 3.05% >>>>> NI - Nickel 0 .15% >>>>> SB - Antimony 7.50% >>>>> >>>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct. >>>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, >>>>> ID >>>>> & length finish machining. >>>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Ian Hill. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: >>>> 7/8/2008 >>>> 7:50 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 >> 6:43 PM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu Aug 28 08:49:08 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:49:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590812CA95@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> My guess would be that it is a Sattley engine as that was what MW was reselling in the 20's. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jay Bernard Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:29 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Aug 28 09:25:42 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:25:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) In-Reply-To: <000c01c90925$144efa90$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <01ad01c9092a$b78939f0$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Rick, I've got another stash of Babbitt in a loft. When I dig it out I'll try to get you some more. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tod Engine Foundation Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:45 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) Tommy. Thanks. I will send off a thank you letter and copy of that price quote sheet to you. Repouring those bearings will be a big job, one which I'll tackle once we get our building erected. I won't be able to run the engine with its current bearings. Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > Rick, > I dropped off 100 lb of nickel babbitt with Dave Rotigel for the Tod > Engine Foundation project. Not sure if Dave has dropped it off to you yet > or will in the near future. I hope it helps. > > Tommy Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > > >>I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered. I >>know >> I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods >> someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read >> says >> to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need >> several hundred pounds of new Babbitt. >> >> I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have >> remaining, >> but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house >> building >> up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-( >> >> Maybe if you still have it next year... >> >> Rick Rowlands >> Executive Director >> Tod Engine Foundation >> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" >> 2261 Hubbard Road >> Youngstown, OH 44505 >> 330-272-4089 >> www.todengine.org >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >> >> >>> Peter, >>> I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you. I have some NOS >>> Jackson >>> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots. I'd sell it to >>> you >>> for $5 / lb. Its probably worth more than that for scrap. I bought >>> about >>> a >>> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the >>> guy >>> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for >>> one >>> cylinders, Model T's and other applications. All that have used it are >>> very >>> pleased with it. Here's what it looks like: >>> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074 >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a >>>> few >>>> points. >>>> >>>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The >>>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How >>>> many >>>> thou. do I allow.? >>>> 2. The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing >>>> where >>>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The >>>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the >>>> end, >>>> I >>>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would >>>> you >>>> try >>>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a >>>> spiral >>>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who >>>> cares >>>> it >>>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining >>>> also. >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm >>>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical >>>> R&V >>>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at: >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoratio n.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit >>>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Hi Peter >>>>> >>>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most >>>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors. >>>>> Composition: >>>>> SN - Tin 88.20% >>>>> AG - Silver 0.10% >>>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00% >>>>> CU - Copper 3.05% >>>>> NI - Nickel 0 .15% >>>>> SB - Antimony 7.50% >>>>> >>>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct. >>>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, >>>>> ID >>>>> & length finish machining. >>>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Ian Hill. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: >>>> 7/8/2008 >>>> 7:50 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 >> 6:43 PM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 28 10:29:49 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590812CA95@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <002101c90933$ad1311e0$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> The question was "who made it " . Sattley is the MW brand , and Nelson Brothers built em . Lots of cool stuff besides Nelsons with Sattley tags , especially the bigger stuff . ////////// My guess would be that it is a Sattley engine as that was what MW was reselling in the 20's. From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Aug 28 13:09:36 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1219954176.48b70600a90dc@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Jay, Hell man, you didn't buy it, you bloody well stole it!! Good on ya mate! I love to see a win like that. See ya, Arnie Quoting Jay Bernard : > I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, > $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? > Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? From clemsweller at etczone.com Thu Aug 28 16:27:56 2008 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:27:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <001501c90965$b3775960$1a660c20$@com> Thanks for the correction. I thought that MG and Sears both sold them. Still, quite a deal on the engine in question. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:54 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I > believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" was > "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for > sure! Right on, Dave. We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo as the Economy engine. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Aug 28 17:03:02 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:03:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <001501c90965$b3775960$1a660c20$@com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> <001501c90965$b3775960$1a660c20$@com> Message-ID: <0DB93260-DAD9-4725-A3F3-C5D32AD580ED@alltel.net> You certainly have that right Chuck! Dave PS, Want to make $50.00 on the engine? On Aug 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote: > > Still, quite a deal on the engine in question. > > Chuck > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob > Skinner > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:54 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > >> Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I >> believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" >> was >> "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for >> sure! > > Right on, Dave. We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo > as the Economy engine. From avanti_64 at juno.com Thu Aug 28 16:54:12 2008 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:54:12 GMT Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections Message-ID: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Peter, sounds like you two had a great time. Glad you enjoyed it! GB and Ireland is on out list of "to dos" some day. Joe Kelley ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find singles for dating, romance and fun. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iif6J3KQ4MHexYuAjTdNeGhhtS1KjOfGrJXTLFLXxTgUBYvzv/ From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 28 17:48:56 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: <883600.57256.qm@web55908.mail.re3.yahoo.com> No thanks Dave! Think I'll hold on to it!? I never asked the seller, but I'd be willing to bet it's not stuck and almost ready to run! ?Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA ----- Original Message ---- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:03:02 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! You certainly have that right Chuck! ??? Dave PS, Want to make $50.00 on the engine? On Aug 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote: > > Still, quite a deal on the engine in question. > > Chuck > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob? > Skinner > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:54 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > >> Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I >> believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy"? >> was >> "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for >> sure! > > Right on, Dave.? We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo > as the Economy engine. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 18:57:52 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:57:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> On 27/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: The second menu page of 36 videos is now up and running, The Portland videos start with the Charity Auction at #56. The last video on that page is a long one and will be an hour or so before we finish processing and sending it all to Stationary-Engine and Oldengine. Up to Video #64 is already running online. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 28 19:45:06 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:45:06 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bosch DU4 Mag In-Reply-To: <003a01c90979$58e9cd20$02d5fea9@yoursz6x6sefxo> References: <003a01c90979$58e9cd20$02d5fea9@yoursz6x6sefxo> Message-ID: <1444CC6C-94ED-4568-BD19-DEBC8DC955A5@rustyiron.com> On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Ted Brookover wrote: > Hello everyone! As many of you know, my beloved Teddy died 2 years > ago and I sold his ignitor/mag business , as Teddy had planned, to > Don Miller. I'm in a dilemma and would appreciate any feedback you > all could help me with. I have been left with a restored mag that > someone has not picked up or not willing to pay for after 5 years > and the cost is $180. Can anyone tell me what kind of engine this > would work with and is anyone interested in it. Teddy put a new > coil, condenser tested good and he painted. I'm at my wit's end at > this point. Thank you for any info you can help me with. Thanks, Jen > Mrs. Jennifer Brookover > 4801 E. Red Bridge Rd. > Kansas City, Missouri, 64137 > 816-763-3142 > ignitors at sbcglobal.net , Home Page, http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ > Ignitor ID Page, http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-id.htm Hi Jennifer, Good to hear from you. As you know, Portland just finished up; you guys were sorely missed. As to the mag, it's for a tractor. Items like that sell on ebay, or perhaps it would go well in the ATIS charity auction. The Christmas auction seems to have fizzled, but he Portland Auction is still going strong. Maybe next year? Rob From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 01:49:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:49:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> On 29/08/2008, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: > Peter, sounds like you two had a great time. Glad you enjoyed it! GB and > Ireland is on out list of "to dos" some day. > Joe Kelley Hi Joe: We have been very lucky with the weather and the exchange rates! England is a lovely country, but not as visitor-friendly as the USA in our view. Let us know if you get to come over. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 01:55:39 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:55:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <006d01c908a6$de5007f0$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <6f6025160808270607j5758d7a6g111737aeb5f2603e@mail.gmail.com> <006d01c908a6$de5007f0$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <6f6025160808290155u6ce71b62q8e60b7d30aac061@mail.gmail.com> On 28/08/2008, Mike Royster wrote: > I am thankful that you continue to make the trip, enjoy our country and > content, and accept us in spite of ourselves! Thanks for your comments, > pictures and videos. You do us proud. > > Mike Royster Mike: We both feel very comfortable with the USA and the folks we meet. We have never had any problems on the 13 trips we have made to the USA, and continue to enjoy the variety of places/locations that we visit. Bearing in mind that we have only been to a limited number of locations, we still have an awful lot to see in our remaining years. We are over again in October, Rita's 60th birthday pressie :-)) We are booked for a week or so in SFO, a place that we really love to be in. It is not surprising that people in the USA don't travel much overseas, they have it all in the one country! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Aug 29 09:08:00 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:08:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Peter, I disagree. I think England is VERY visitor-friendly. Have a look at my impressions from the first few trips. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2000/yank1.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2001/yank1.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2002/yank1.htm Sorry that the last write-up is still a work in progress and the subsequent trips not yet started in the write-up department, but you'll get the right impressions from what is out there. See ya, Arnie Quoting Listerdiesel : > England is a lovely country, but not as visitor-friendly as the USA in our > view. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 10:03:36 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:03:36 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808291003u17e27e58q2c82e092f8f54c3c@mail.gmail.com> On 29/08/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hey Peter, > > I disagree. I think England is VERY visitor-friendly. Not if you are looking for accomodation. We don't have anything like the Super8/Motel6 networks in the UK and those that we do have are over-priced, charge for WiFi, are stingy with room sizes and facilities and all congregate around the popular centres. If you are visiting friends who can put you up, then I would agree with your view. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Aug 29 11:08:49 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:08:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Gee Arnie, It looks like you are only SIX years behind on your England trip reporting!! Or, did you not include them to save space in this e-mail? Or MAYBE Dolly has been so busy at work she didn't have time to prod you into actually writing them. Maybe if you just sit down with a wee dram of what you won at the charity auction, let your mind relax, it will all come back to you and you can start writing again. I can't wait so read them, Steve> _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 13:49:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:49:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ATIS Portland Group Picture - Friday Message-ID: <6f6025160808291349o1eb58401pfd34805420fc57e3@mail.gmail.com> There is a full-sized image of the group picture at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Misc/ATISGroup2.jpg It is 1.6mb in compressed jpeg size. 4007 X 1937 pixels opened up. Feel free to play with it and add names etc if you want. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 29 14:00:47 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:00:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 Message-ID: <002801c90a1a$4fc57d60$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I forgot to check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for Portland 2009 August 19-23? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Aug 29 14:52:22 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:52:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: <002801c90a1a$4fc57d60$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> References: <002801c90a1a$4fc57d60$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: The Portland pen says August 26-30. Dave On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > forgot to > check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > Portland 2009 August 19-23? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Aug 29 18:08:37 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:08:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com><6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <001d01c90a3c$ef19c9d0$726f4b47@mikecomp> Sorry Steve, Arnie is too busy working on the restoration of the FERO compressor to worry about writing stories of his travels. He has only been working on the FERO compressor project 5 years now................ MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections > > Gee Arnie, It looks like you are only SIX years behind on your England > trip reporting!! Or, did you not include them to save space in this > e-mail? Or MAYBE Dolly has been so busy at work she didn't have time > to prod you into actually writing them. Maybe if you just sit down with a > wee dram of what you won at the charity auction, let your mind relax, it > will all come back to you and you can start writing again. I can't wait so > read them, Steve> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 06:12:02 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:12:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This year's show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 The Portland pen says August 26-30. Dave On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > forgot to > check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > Portland 2009 August 19-23? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 06:54:36 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:54:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Discussion - Of Topic of Engines Message-ID: <000001c90aa7$f143d320$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> I know this is off topic of engine discussion but I chatted with some (actually a Q&A I did when I gave away some Babbitt) in regards to my local post office being one of 4 in the US that isn't required to use a zip code. I had someone ask me if I would send them the article about this and I can't remember who it was. So, whoever it was can click on this link and read the article that was written in a stamp collector's guide. http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/HodgenvillePostOffice Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From rotigel at alltel.net Sat Aug 30 08:13:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:13:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I just talked to Nila (Tri-State Secretary) to confirm what I told you. Dave PS, Apparently the date on (some of?) the magnets was wrong. It's correct on the pens! -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This > year's > show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the > 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th > or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > > The Portland pen says August 26-30. > Dave > > > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >> forgot to >> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Sat Aug 30 08:23:57 2008 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:23:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > > >> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This >> year's >> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the >> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th >> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David >> Rotigel >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 >> >> The Portland pen says August 26-30. >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> >>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >>> forgot to >>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 09:41:16 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:41:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: <7C0C94F4880344038E782DB9708E86C1@tommydk7hxjr4h> Thanks Dave. I'm putting it on the calendar! Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > Hi Tommy, I just talked to Nila (Tri-State Secretary) to confirm what > I told you. > Dave > PS, Apparently the date on (some of?) the magnets was wrong. It's > correct on the pens! > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This >> year's >> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the >> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th >> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David >> Rotigel >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 >> >> The Portland pen says August 26-30. >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: >> >>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >>> forgot to >>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 6:12 PM From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 09:46:35 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:46:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: Yeah Doug, I remember for years going to Portland and it being the weekend before the Labor Day weekend. Our schools would always start the week before Labor Day and Portland was always my last engine "adventure" before starting back to school. When I looked at the calendar for 2009 and then inquired with a friend via email we had conflicting dates. Dave R. checking with Nila is a plus for us all to get it on the calendar right. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Tallman" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day > weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > > >> On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> >>> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This >>> year's >>> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the >>> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th >>> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David >>> Rotigel >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM >>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 >>> >>> The Portland pen says August 26-30. >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >>>> forgot to >>>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >>>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >>>> >>>> Tommy Turner >>>> Magnolia, KY >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 6:12 PM From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Aug 30 10:24:39 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:24:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] portland 08 Message-ID: <002101c90ac5$4859f5a0$50bd474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi gang , Just returned home yesterday from my trip to Baraboo and Portland and would like to say how good it was to meet so many of you again, and also say thanks for all the hospitality shown. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it over again next year so I'll see you all sometime in the future. Cheers , Craig in Scotland. P.S; I hope that the guys with the rubber fetish ( they no who they are ) got home with out having any more leaky rubbers From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Aug 30 10:30:35 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:30:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080830125756.03016610@pop3.wcoil.com> Portland Show will be the week of the 24th. Doug is correct Portland Show is always figured to be the week before Labor Day week. Labor Day Week is the week before the first Monday of September which is the Seventh next year. So the week before that week for Portland. Carl was hit up on that question quite a bit during the show this year with folks thinking it was supposed to be the third weekend too, which it generally is, but thats only by coincidense. Thats where the swap meet had troubles over the years. It was generally accepted by the attendees to be the week before Memorial week. But it was actually originally designated the third weekend of the month by the club. So sometimes a empty week fell between Portland and Waukee which threw a few attendees off their feed when it happened. They have since changed that and now it too is supposed to always be the week before Memorial Week. Mark At 11:23 AM 8/30/08, you wrote: >Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day >weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > > > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This > >> year's > >> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the > >> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th > >> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. > >> > >> Tommy Turner > >> Magnolia, KY > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > >> Rotigel > >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > >> > >> The Portland pen says August 26-30. > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > >>> forgot to > >>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > >>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? > >>> > >>> Tommy Turner > >>> Magnolia, KY > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Aug 30 11:11:32 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:11:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080830134025.0301c350@pop3.wcoil.com> If I remember Carl correctly he was saying the date for the 2009 spring swap meet is somewhat incorrect on the magnets they distributed. They read May 11-17th and are supposed to read May 13th - 17th. He said they are shortening the swap by two days for 2009. This should be an improvement if it happens for buyers and sellers both. Mark At 12:46 PM 8/30/08, you wrote: >Yeah Doug, I remember for years going to Portland and it being the weekend >before the Labor Day weekend. Our schools would always start the week >before Labor Day and Portland was always my last engine "adventure" before >starting back to school. When I looked at the calendar for 2009 and then >inquired with a friend via email we had conflicting dates. Dave R. checking >with Nila is a plus for us all to get it on the calendar right. > >Tommy Turner > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Tallman" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > > > > Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day > > weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > > > > > >> On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This > >>> year's > >>> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the > >>> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th > >>> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. > >>> > >>> Tommy Turner > >>> Magnolia, KY > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > >>> Rotigel > >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM > >>> To: The SEL email discussion list > >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > >>> > >>> The Portland pen says August 26-30. > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > >>>> forgot to > >>>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > >>>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? > >>>> > >>>> Tommy Turner > >>>> Magnolia, KY > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 >6:12 PM > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Aug 30 11:31:22 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:31:22 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 53, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> >Message: 9 >Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:54:36 -0400 >From: "Tommy Turner" >Subject: [SEL] Portland Discussion - Of Topic of Engines >I know this is off topic of engine discussion but I chatted with some >(actually a Q&A I did when I gave away some Babbitt) in regards to my >local post office being one of 4 in the US that isn't required to use a >zip code. I had someone ask me if I would send them the article about >this and I can't remember who it was. So, whoever it was can click on >this link and read the article that was written in a stamp collector's >guide. > >http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/HodgenvillePostOffice > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of websites that "require" you to fill in a postal code. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Aug 30 13:45:06 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:45:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Caste Iron Curry Lister Message-ID: <1220129106.48b9b1520d0d2@webmail.city-net.com> Who was looking for info on the Caste Iron Curry Listers; was that Steve? There's one on eBay now and the seller/dealer could be contacted for more detailed info. See ya, Arnie ================================================================= http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=120297986399 ================================================================= Item name: Metro Lister CS Clone Diesel Engine 6 HP New Biodiesel Current price: $999.00 Buy It Now price: $1,100.00 End time: Aug-31-08 09:56:24 PDT From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 17:18:29 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:18:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: We do have a postal (ZIP) code assigned to us but aren't required to use it (most everyone does though). The 4 places mentioned are the only ones in the US that even if a person fails to place the zip code, the mail must still be delivered to them. If I were to mail a letter to a friend in Chicago and left off the zip code, the post office would return it to me claiming it had an improper address. However, if that friend sends me one and leaves off the zip code, it has to be delivered as a zip code isn't required for me. Its better to use it though as if a zip code isn't used, the letter isn't machine sorted and has to be hand sorted. I haven't tried before but I wonder what UPS, FedEx, etc would do if someone tried to send me something and when asked for a zip code they were told I didn't have to have one. There would be some eyebrows raised I'm sure. There is some question as to why of all the thousands of post offices in the US, we're one of only 4 that don't have to use a zip code. One story is that its due to the historic significance of the Lincoln Birthplace located here. However, another story may be the real reason. When zip codes came into being, a gent from our town (one of my relatives in fact) was a member of Congress and chaired the committee that created them. He also happened to be the former postmaster and he hated the idea of having to place a zip code on letters for his hometown. Makes sense as its certainly an example of our how our US Government works! Tommy Turner > > That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of websites > that "require" you to fill in a postal code. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 5:18 PM From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Aug 30 18:59:33 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:59:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <002001c90b0d$36bdab50$726f4b47@mikecomp> Lincoln birthplace, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes > We do have a postal (ZIP) code assigned to us but aren't required to use > it > (most everyone does though). The 4 places mentioned are the only ones in > the US that even if a person fails to place the zip code, the mail must > still be delivered to them. If I were to mail a letter to a friend in > Chicago and left off the zip code, the post office would return it to me > claiming it had an improper address. However, if that friend sends me one > and leaves off the zip code, it has to be delivered as a zip code isn't > required for me. Its better to use it though as if a zip code isn't used, > the letter isn't machine sorted and has to be hand sorted. I haven't > tried > before but I wonder what UPS, FedEx, etc would do if someone tried to send > me something and when asked for a zip code they were told I didn't have to > have one. There would be some eyebrows raised I'm sure. > > There is some question as to why of all the thousands of post offices in > the > US, we're one of only 4 that don't have to use a zip code. One story is > that its due to the historic significance of the Lincoln Birthplace > located > here. However, another story may be the real reason. When zip codes came > into being, a gent from our town (one of my relatives in fact) was a > member > of Congress and chaired the committee that created them. He also happened > to be the former postmaster and he hated the idea of having to place a zip > code on letters for his hometown. Makes sense as its certainly an example > of our how our US Government works! > > Tommy Turner > > > > >> >> That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of >> websites >> that "require" you to fill in a postal code. >> >> Keep the revs up (or down) >> Jerry Evans >> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 > 5:18 PM > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 19:15:50 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:15:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <002001c90b0d$36bdab50$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Yeah Mike, you NC boys and your claim that Lincoln had to be born there because he looked like an old gent that lived there......HAHAHAHAHAHA......sort of like an article I was reading the other day about a lady from FL who has an 18 year old son who is the spitting image of Bill Clinton, so she must actually be from Arkansas (well, at least she must have visited Little Rock about 19 years ago). Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes > Lincoln birthplace, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes > > >> We do have a postal (ZIP) code assigned to us but aren't required to use >> it >> (most everyone does though). The 4 places mentioned are the only ones in >> the US that even if a person fails to place the zip code, the mail must >> still be delivered to them. If I were to mail a letter to a friend in >> Chicago and left off the zip code, the post office would return it to me >> claiming it had an improper address. However, if that friend sends me >> one >> and leaves off the zip code, it has to be delivered as a zip code isn't >> required for me. Its better to use it though as if a zip code isn't >> used, >> the letter isn't machine sorted and has to be hand sorted. I haven't >> tried >> before but I wonder what UPS, FedEx, etc would do if someone tried to >> send >> me something and when asked for a zip code they were told I didn't have >> to >> have one. There would be some eyebrows raised I'm sure. >> >> There is some question as to why of all the thousands of post offices in >> the >> US, we're one of only 4 that don't have to use a zip code. One story is >> that its due to the historic significance of the Lincoln Birthplace >> located >> here. However, another story may be the real reason. When zip codes >> came >> into being, a gent from our town (one of my relatives in fact) was a >> member >> of Congress and chaired the committee that created them. He also >> happened >> to be the former postmaster and he hated the idea of having to place a >> zip >> code on letters for his hometown. Makes sense as its certainly an >> example >> of our how our US Government works! >> >> Tommy Turner >> >> >> >> >>> >>> That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of >>> websites >>> that "require" you to fill in a postal code. >>> >>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>> Jerry Evans >>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: >> 8/30/2008 >> 5:18 PM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 5:18 PM From jbcast at charter.net Sat Aug 30 23:22:13 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 2:22:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav Message-ID: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and downed trees. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Aug 30 23:58:23 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:58:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080831025146.0301b040@pop3.wcoil.com> Last I heard Gust was at Cat 4 and they usually weaken a bit as they get in close to shore as the water is relatively shallow in the gulf nearer shore. Katrina was cat 5 in open water but weakened to 4? before landfall If I remember right. Will keep you in mind and have a drink for you when it comes ashore. Good Luck!!! Mark At 02:22 AM 8/31/08, you wrote: >Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a >weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans >on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and >downed trees. >J.B. Castagnos >Belle Rose, LA Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, Ohio Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Home #419.358.5206 From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Aug 31 01:18:53 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:18:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:22 PM, wrote: > Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is > a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New > Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us > are tornados and downed trees. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA Fare well, bro. From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Aug 31 07:11:58 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:11:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: <3F4D014B-009E-4B3F-B591-6DF88BDCF2A2@alltel.net> Hi J.B., Keep your head low and don't look out of windows until it's over! I'll be thinking about you! Dave On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:22 AM, wrote: > Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is > a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New > Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us > are tornados and downed trees. > J.B. Castagnos From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Aug 31 07:15:55 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:15:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Rob, Because there are some DEMOCRATS on The List, I Think it would be good if you would explain that there is a difference between "Farewell" and "Fare well!" Dave On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:18 AM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:22 PM, > wrote: >> Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is >> a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New >> Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us >> are tornados and downed trees. >> J.B. Castagnos >> Belle Rose, LA > > Fare well, bro. From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 31 09:05:58 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav Message-ID: <806289.46690.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Yeah, looks like it's got it's sights dead set on Houma/Thibodaux. I just finished gettin my house packed up, and I'm riding it out at my firestation. ?Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA ----- Original Message ---- From: "jbcast at charter.net" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 1:22:13 AM Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and downed trees. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Aug 31 09:32:29 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:32:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8D841A30-0CC6-43E5-AB82-E0EE6A9D9B2F@rustyiron.com> On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:15 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Rob, Because there are some DEMOCRATS on The List, I Think it would be > good if you would explain that there is a difference between > "Farewell" and "Fare well!" > Dave Dude... that's pretty funny. From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Aug 31 11:25:38 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:25:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: Hey, J.B: Keep yer head down! We're only gonna get a breeze and some rain. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jbcast at charter.net > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 01:22 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > > > Looks like this one is coming right over us, best > we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days > will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on > high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat > for us are tornados and downed trees. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 13:07:38 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:07:38 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808311307k6ed562e0nc9c63fd1cf8e0fb0@mail.gmail.com> On 29/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: All the videos are completed editing and are being uploaded to oldengine.org and stationary-engine.co.uk: [url]http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm[/url] or at: [url]http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm[/url] There are 146 separate videos, everything we shot in the 2 weeks we were over there. Pictures, starting with Portland: [url]http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm[/url] or at: [url]http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm[/url] There are 3 pages of 24 pictures ready, with a LOT more to come. We did the videos first this year so now we can start on the 600+ pictures. Let me know if you have any connection or viewing problems please. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 13:10:16 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:10:16 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808311307k6ed562e0nc9c63fd1cf8e0fb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808311307k6ed562e0nc9c63fd1cf8e0fb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808311310h557b827eh9299427884ffb2d5@mail.gmail.com> On 31/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: Cutting and pasting produced some unintended additions! Try this: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm There are 146 separate videos, everything we shot in the 2 weeks we were over there. Pictures, starting with Portland: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jbcast at charter.net Sun Aug 31 17:03:32 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:03:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, securing loose items and getting generators running. J.B. Castagnos From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sun Aug 31 17:24:09 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:24:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <806289.46690.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a901c90bc9$0ec65220$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> You guys (& all the coastal residents but yall by name!) got my prayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Yeah, looks like it's got it's sights dead set on Houma/Thibodaux. I just finished gettin my house packed up, and I'm riding it out at my firestation. ?Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA ----- Original Message ---- Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and downed trees. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 31 18:18:39 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:18:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav References: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Message-ID: We'll all keep you in out thoughts J.B. In terms of a storm with devastating potential, I've been there done that a tornado. Make sure you and your loved ones are safe first. The old iron is just something to play with. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > > Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It > looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like > it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, > securing loose items and getting generators running. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1644 - Release Date: 8/31/2008 4:59 PM From pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Sun Aug 31 18:42:12 2008 From: pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us (Pete Alleman) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:42:12 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> References: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Message-ID: <1220233332.23947.6.camel@ralph> On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 17:03 -0700, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, securing loose items and getting generators running. We've been preparing here too. It looks like it will hit us a few hours after it runs over you. It looks like the biggest problem will be flooding from extreme amounts of rain. Best wishes. Our prayers are with you. Pete. P.S. The rogues list and the rest of my website will probably be down a bit depending on how much I run my generator and how my internet connection survives. -- Pete Alleman pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Lafayette, Louisiana USA From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Sun Aug 31 18:54:49 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:54:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav References: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Message-ID: <00cc01c90bd5$b8045100$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> "The old iron is just something to play with." Unless you have really heavy iron which may serve anchoring purposes in a tornado. Also been there done that in a tornado. Didn't get my place but sure as hell tore up the neighborhood. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > We'll all keep you in out thoughts J.B. In terms of a storm with > devastating potential, I've been there done that a tornado. Make sure you > and your loved ones are safe first. The old iron is just something to > play > with. > > Tommy Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > > >> >> Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It >> looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like >> it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, >> securing loose items and getting generators running. >> J.B. Castagnos >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1644 - Release Date: 8/31/2008 > 4:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 17:52:19 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:52:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down Message-ID: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Is the list down? Paul From astfgl at iamnota.org Sat Aug 2 19:00:53 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:00:53 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down In-Reply-To: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <48951155.3080806@iamnota.org> Yes Paul Maples wrote: > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Aug 2 19:01:03 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:01:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down In-Reply-To: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: It seems to be working. Everyone is just a little quiet! Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Is the list down? Paul _______________________________________________ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:01:25 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:01:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer Message-ID: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Hey Gang, Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film disintegrates? Sorry to bother everyone, Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 2 19:03:51 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:03:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> I'm here Paul. No activity though. You'd think it was Portland week! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 > 5:30 PM > > > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:12:42 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:12:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: Thanks Tommy, I sent out a message over two hours ago and it never came across. I even got a message from the administrator that they had been trying for two hours to deliver it and would try again in two hours. I re-sent the O.T. message and it came right across. Must have been a glitch in cyberspace. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List Down > I'm here Paul. No activity though. You'd think it was Portland week! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Maples" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM > Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down > > >> Is the list down? >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 >> 5:30 PM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:14:01 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:14:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <7269719947594E88948D13AF3ECB35FB@FAMILY> Thanks Patrick, it appears it is up and hitting again. I should not be surprised as this is a hit & miss group. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List Down > It seems to be working. Everyone is just a little quiet! > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > -----Original Message----- > > > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 19:20:23 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:20:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <05b701c8f50f$7d60a760$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Hey Paul There are some on EBay but no idea how good they are. I got pretty good results projecting some on the screen & setting my digital camera on a tripod as close to inline with the projector lens as possible (to prevent distortion) & taking a pic of the screen (flash off of course). It's slow going but works pretty good imho. Lew Best near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Hey Gang, Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film disintegrates? Sorry to bother everyone, Paul _______________________________________________ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 14:52:03 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:52:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner Message-ID: Hey Gang, Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film disintegrates? Sorry to bother everyone, Paul From edstoller at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 19:37:53 2008 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:37:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <002301c8f511$ee684880$3302a8c0@Ed> Hi Paul, I recently bought a scanner made for slides from Costco but have not used it yet. It says " PrimeFilm3650U " and is made by Pacific Image Electronics, Torrance , CA. See: http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&search=Slide%20Scanner&N=0&Ntt=Slide%20Scanner&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hey Gang, > > Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about > 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in Vietnam. > Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had > not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great visit. > > He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war that > he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a > copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one > had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. > > Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to sell > me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film > disintegrates? > > Sorry to bother everyone, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sat Aug 2 19:46:46 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:46:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have > about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was > in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military > buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me > and we had a great visit. > > He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the > war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He > ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I > live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. > > Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing > to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide > film disintegrates? > > Sorry to bother everyone, > > Paul Hi Paul, My scanner will do it. It's an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo scanner. It's pretty old, so I'm CERTAIN there are a slew of equally capable scanners on the shelf at your local computer store. Mine is a typical flat-bed, a little larger than a sheet of paper. The key is that the cover has a light in it. When you scan in negative mode, the light in the TOP turns on, rather than the usual light that is used for scanning opaque paper. The scanner also came with a "frame" into which you can place film or slides. Without pulling it out of a drawer, I would guess that it can do 20 or so slides at a time. The task seems tedious, but it would be worth the effort to preserve delicate film. Rob From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:47:14 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:47:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <05b701c8f50f$7d60a760$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: Well Lew for me that would be another problem as I no longer have a 35mm slide projector. I was hoping that someone had a slide scanner that they had used to scan their slides with and now that they were scanned they no longer needed it and I could buy it. I have talked to some people who tried to use a flat bed scanner with a 35mm slide adaptor and they got very poor results, There has to be a better way to do that spend several hundred dollars which is not laying around in my house at the moment. I will hang loose for a little while and see what, if anymore, suggestions come in from the folks on the list, they have never let me down before and I am betting they will come through this time although this is non-engine related. I appreciate your come back and ideas, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Best" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hey Paul > > There are some on EBay but no idea how good they are. I got pretty good > results projecting some on the screen & setting my digital camera on a > tripod as close to inline with the projector lens as possible (to > prevent distortion) & taking a pic of the screen (flash off of course). > It's slow going but works pretty good imho. > > Lew Best near Waco, TX > > -----Original Message----- > > Hey Gang, > > Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have > about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in > Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, > that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a > great visit. > > He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war > that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me > for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and > no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. > > Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to > sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film > disintegrates? > > Sorry to bother everyone, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Sat Aug 2 19:47:37 2008 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:47:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner Message-ID: <380-2200880324737703@coastalnet.com> Paul, A friend of mine from back in my early days in the AF bought a slide converter from Brookstone, and a little search found what appears to be an identical one at: www.hammacher.com Just do a search for slide scanner. My friend said it was a little bit slow, but the CD he sent contained very nice copies. Take care. Ken From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 19:49:13 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:49:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> <002301c8f511$ee684880$3302a8c0@Ed> Message-ID: WOW!, Ed you dropped a few bucks I see. I would love to know how well this works even though it is out of my reach at the moment. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hi Paul, > > I recently bought a scanner made for slides from Costco but have not used > it > yet. It says " PrimeFilm3650U " and is made by Pacific Image Electronics, > Torrance , CA. See: > http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&search=Slide%20Scanner&N=0&Ntt=Slide%20Scanner&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Maples" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:01 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have about >> 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was in >> Vietnam. >> Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military buddies, that I had >> not seen, or heard from, since the war called me and we had a great >> visit. >> >> He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the war >> that >> he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He ask me for a >> copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I live in and no one >> had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. >> >> Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing to >> sell >> me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide film >> disintegrates? >> >> Sorry to bother everyone, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 19:59:19 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:59:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <05bc01c8f514$ee0d4fe0$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> I know the feeling but slide projectors can be had cheap at thrift shops, yard sales, etc. if it comes to that Lew -----Original Message----- Well Lew for me that would be another problem as I no longer have a 35mm slide projector. I was hoping that someone had a slide scanner that they had used to scan their slides with and now that they were scanned they no longer needed it and I could buy it. I have talked to some people who tried to use a flat bed scanner with a 35mm slide adaptor and they got very poor results, There has to be a better way to do that spend several hundred dollars which is not laying around in my house at the moment. I will hang loose for a little while and see what, if anymore, suggestions come in from the folks on the list, they have never let me down before and I am betting they will come through this time although this is non-engine related. I appreciate your come back and ideas, Paul From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 20:01:18 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:01:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <4E4E699FD12044C3A991A10EBB828FA1@FAMILY> Rob the people I talked to that use the flat bed scanner with the 35mm slide adaptor told me that the quality they got was real poor. Have you ever used your scanner to scan slides?, if so how did they come out. Thanks, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > > On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> Please forgive me for the O.T. message but I need some help. I have >> about 800 35mm color slides that I made in the early 60's when I was >> in Vietnam. Just out of the blue yesterday one of my old military >> buddies, that I had not seen, or heard from, since the war called me >> and we had a great visit. >> >> He is sending me a CD with all of the pictures he took during the >> war that he has had converted to .jpg files and put them on a CD. He >> ask me for a copy of my pictures. I have been all over this town I >> live in and no one had a 35mm viewer or a 35mm scanner. >> >> Does anyone have a viewer and a scanner that they would be willing >> to sell me so I can transfer my pictures to a CD before the slide >> film disintegrates? >> >> Sorry to bother everyone, >> >> Paul > > Hi Paul, > My scanner will do it. It's an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo scanner. > It's pretty old, so I'm CERTAIN there are a slew of equally capable > scanners on the shelf at your local computer store. > > Mine is a typical flat-bed, a little larger than a sheet of paper. > The key is that the cover has a light in it. When you scan in > negative mode, the light in the TOP turns on, rather than the usual > light that is used for scanning opaque paper. The scanner also came > with a "frame" into which you can place film or slides. Without > pulling it out of a drawer, I would guess that it can do 20 or so > slides at a time. > > The task seems tedious, but it would be worth the effort to preserve > delicate film. > > Rob > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 20:02:49 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:02:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner References: <380-2200880324737703@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: Ken I saw a couple of these for sale on E-bay but was not sure how well they worked. Is your friend still around where I could e-mail him about this scanner or is this someone in the past? Thanks, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Christison" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need a 35MM Slide Viewer and Scanner > > Paul, > > A friend of mine from back in my early days in the AF bought a slide > converter from Brookstone, > and a little search found what appears to be an identical one at: > www.hammacher.com Just do > a search for slide scanner. > > My friend said it was a little bit slow, but the CD he sent contained very > nice copies. > > Take care. > > Ken > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat Aug 2 20:19:49 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:19:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer Message-ID: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. Works with Windows XP. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtZfs7tDJxqAvUp49Bj8cWgCDuDoeuzds3ishVbmfZBgzT/ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 20:31:36 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:31:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer References: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> This seems like the most economical device, I wish I had some input from someone who has used one. Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I end up with. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 > seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. > Works with Windows XP. > > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for > more info. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtZfs7tDJxqAvUp49Bj8cWgCDuDoeuzds3ishVbmfZBgzT/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sat Aug 2 20:32:18 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:32:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <4E4E699FD12044C3A991A10EBB828FA1@FAMILY> References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> <4E4E699FD12044C3A991A10EBB828FA1@FAMILY> Message-ID: <157E6DE3-D7EE-4570-A264-DF6EB9266C84@rustyiron.com> On Aug 2, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > Rob the people I talked to that use the flat bed scanner with the > 35mm slide > adaptor told me that the quality they got was real poor. Have you > ever used > your scanner to scan slides?, if so how did they come out. Hi Paul, I've used it one time on about five slides, and they came out exceptionally well. Search ebay for "scanner epson 2450" and you might be surprised. From b2 at chooka.net Sat Aug 2 22:07:37 2008 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:07:37 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> References: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> Message-ID: <000f01c8f526$db5bfba0$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local> I think Ron's on the right track, Paul. I scanned a few of my presentations to move to the modern world a few years ago. I used a very common grade flatbed scanner with a little slide scanning adapter, fiddled with the software settings so the scanner concentrated its attention into that specific little corner of the bed, and came up with images that were indistinguishable from the originals when projected on a large screen. Some got better, as I was able to adjust exposure and do a little cropping. But I decided if and when I do all those carousels of slides in the closet that I'd take them to a service or buy some more efficient equipment. It was tedious lining up each slide and scanning it. I've not checked into the price of having someone do it for me but I'd think that with some good equipment one would be pretty time-efficient with the process. Yeah, we'd better all get to this project if we want to preserve the images. When the folks died we found their slides and a lot of them were poor to unviewable at all. I expect it depends upon how well the processor washed the film after developing it. B? Bill Brueck Chatfield, Minnesota, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:32 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer This seems like the most economical device, I wish I had some input from someone who has used one. Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I end up with. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 > seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. > Works with Windows XP. > > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for > more info. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ohtZfs7tDJxqAvUp49Bj8cWgC DuDoeuzds3ishVbmfZBgzT/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Aug 2 22:35:05 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:35:05 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> Message-ID: <001701c8f52a$af821ab0$0200a8c0@KAYE> Oh No, there are no emails, bloody hell, that means there are a whole bunch of guys and gals actually going to SHOWS and enjoying actually running engines ;-)))) The devil made me do it, spending too much time talking to Reg ;-))) Peter. Oz > Is the list down? > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 00:18:46 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:18:46 +0100 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: References: <5217CF2633174E3995F5044FB2AAAC4F@FAMILY> Message-ID: <6f6025160808030018r28b4fbecl911c3a3616b7697f@mail.gmail.com> On 03/08/2008, Rob Skinner wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > My scanner will do it. It's an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo scanner. > It's pretty old, so I'm CERTAIN there are a slew of equally capable > scanners on the shelf at your local computer store. > Ours is the Epson 1240U model with the separate slide scanner, same as Robs. It fits a number of the Epson flat-bed scanners, the model of ours is EU-33. The unit has a built-in light souce and a cable that plugs into the back of the scanner for power. There's one on Ebay: 110275859063 Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun Aug 3 02:01:40 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:01:40 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> <001701c8f52a$af821ab0$0200a8c0@KAYE> Message-ID: <01f701c8f547$8cb6ea20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Well! I AM going to PORTLAND!! Suffer!!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List Down > Oh No, there are no emails, bloody hell, that means there are a whole > bunch > of guys and gals actually going to SHOWS and enjoying actually running > engines ;-)))) > The devil made me do it, spending too much time talking to Reg ;-))) > > Peter. Oz > > > > > >> Is the list down? >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From weolson at wiktel.com Sun Aug 3 04:56:58 2008 From: weolson at wiktel.com (William Olson) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 06:56:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> References: <20080802.201950.1288.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> <4A5997D94DA3425DBE9F91751ADBA884@FAMILY> Message-ID: <662238108.20080803065658@wiktel.com> Hi Paul, Saturday, August 2, 2008, 10:31:36 PM, you wrote: PM> This seems like the most economical device, I wish I had some input from PM> someone who has used one. PM> Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I end up with. PM> Paul PM> ----- Original Message ----- PM> From: PM> To: PM> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer >> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 >> seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. >> Works with Windows XP. >> Ron Haskell >> rdhaskell at juno.com >> Riverside, California USA >> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell I have used it and it did a very good job. You can also get it through Heartland on line. -- Thanks, William mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 3 05:18:37 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:18:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Message-ID: <1217765917.4895a21d9dd61@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya Folks, Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism student who was working as a summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly paper). He was a real interesting young fella and he's taken a number of reallly good pics. http://www.thecourier.com Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby Reid and that will take you to the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the background. Enjoy!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Aug 3 07:22:59 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:22:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <1217765917.4895a21d9dd61@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie: Dave done did hisself proud! I'm shocked! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > fero_ah at city-net.com > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 07:19 AM > To: Stationary Engine List; Old_Engine > Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show > > > Hiya Folks, > > Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism > student who was working as a > summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly > paper). He was a real > interesting young fella and he's taken a number > of reallly good pics. > > http://www.thecourier.com > > Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby > Reid and that will take you to > the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the > background. Enjoy!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Aug 3 07:25:08 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:25:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer In-Reply-To: <662238108.20080803065658@wiktel.com> Message-ID: Gang: I had a few hundred slides from the 1960's and tried to use my flatbed scanner to make 'em into JPGs. They looked terrible. I solved the problem by throwing out all the slides and selling the projector and trays on EvilBay. The dim past is best forgotten. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of William > Olson > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 06:57 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > > > Hi Paul, > > Saturday, August 2, 2008, 10:31:36 PM, you wrote: > > PM> This seems like the most economical device, I > wish I had some input from > PM> someone who has used one. > > PM> Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I > end up with. > > PM> Paul > > PM> ----- Original Message ----- > PM> From: > PM> To: > PM> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM > PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide > Scanner & Viewer > > > >> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item > #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 > >> seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. > >> Works with Windows XP. > > > >> Ron Haskell > >> rdhaskell at juno.com > >> Riverside, California USA > >> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > I have used it and it did a very good job. You > can also get it through Heartland on line. > > > > -- > Thanks, William mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 3 07:25:51 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:25:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer - Thanks References: Message-ID: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> Thanks everyone for all of your input, you certainly have got this old man to "thinking" which is something I don't normally do, it has activated a whole array of new sensors in the head that are normally dormant. A friend of mine, that lives in East Tennessee, told me he had recently went to Wal-Mart and they charged him $2.50 per CD and that they were able to average putting 70 slides on a CD. He had them scan 625 slides for him. He is going to go to the store tomorrow and see if they will repeat this again and if so I think I would be crazy not to ship my slides to him and let him go to Wal-mart and have them put on a CD. I checked with my Wal-Mart and they want $.61 a slide so my store is now an option. I am still reviewing everyone's input and will soon do something, even if it is wrong. I appreciate everyone trying to help me with this O.T. subject. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer > Gang: > > I had a few hundred slides from the 1960's and tried to use my flatbed > scanner to make 'em into JPGs. They looked terrible. > > I solved the problem by throwing out all the slides and selling the > projector and trays on EvilBay. The dim past is best forgotten. :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of William >> Olson >> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 06:57 AM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer >> >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> Saturday, August 2, 2008, 10:31:36 PM, you wrote: >> >> PM> This seems like the most economical device, I >> wish I had some input from >> PM> someone who has used one. >> >> PM> Thanks Ron for the info, this may be what I >> end up with. >> >> PM> Paul >> >> PM> ----- Original Message ----- >> PM> From: >> PM> To: >> PM> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:19 PM >> PM> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide >> Scanner & Viewer >> >> >> >> Hi Paul. Check out x-tremegeek.com item >> #151 0449. Scans slides in 5 >> >> seconds at 5 megapixels for $99.96. >> >> Works with Windows XP. >> >> >> >> Ron Haskell >> >> rdhaskell at juno.com >> >> Riverside, California USA >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell >> >> I have used it and it did a very good job. You >> can also get it through Heartland on line. >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, William > mailto:weolson at wiktel.com > > Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Sun Aug 3 13:14:53 2008 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:14:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer - Thanks In-Reply-To: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> References: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> Message-ID: <489611BD.6090702@telenet.net> Paul Maples wrote: > Thanks everyone for all of your input, you certainly have got this old man > to "thinking" which is something I don't normally do, it has activated a > whole array of new sensors in the head that are normally dormant. > > A friend of mine, that lives in East Tennessee, told me he had recently went > to Wal-Mart and they charged him $2.50 per CD and that they were able to > average putting 70 slides on a CD. He had them scan 625 slides for him. He > is going to go to the store tomorrow and see if they will repeat this again > and if so I think I would be crazy not to ship my slides to him and let him > go to Wal-mart and have them put on a CD. > > I checked with my Wal-Mart and they want $.61 a slide so my store is now an > option. > > I am still reviewing everyone's input and will soon do something, even if it > is wrong. > > I appreciate everyone trying to help me with this O.T. subject. > > Paul I completely forgot that Wally World did this. I'll have to see what my three local stores get. Since I get a 10% employee discount in the stores I might be able to farm out some of my current backlog. -- Steve W. From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Aug 3 18:04:03 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:04:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down In-Reply-To: <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <4106624ABD974F3C8FEE628B9D6F7126@FAMILY> <81A948A950F94EF8BAEAB02D7EF670DE@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080803210329.02feda60@pop3.wcoil.com> Nope FINDLAY, GRINNNNN See ya all at Portland At 10:03 PM 8/2/08, you wrote: >I'm here Paul. No activity though. You'd think it was Portland week! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Maples" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:52 PM >Subject: [SEL] Is the List Down > > > > Is the list down? > > > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 > > 5:30 PM > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From page at velocitynet.com.au Sun Aug 3 18:24:43 2008 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:24:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <1217765917.4895a21d9dd61@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000301c8f5d0$dfdc2b50$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Not only did Dave do a good job but how about the student's presentation. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of fero_ah at city-net.com Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2008 10:19 PM To: Stationary Engine List; Old_Engine Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Hiya Folks, Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism student who was working as a summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly paper). He was a real interesting young fella and he's taken a number of reallly good pics. http://www.thecourier.com Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby Reid and that will take you to the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the background. Enjoy!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 7/06/2008 11:17 AM From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Aug 4 04:02:40 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:02:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Message-ID: <080420081102.11738.4896E1D0000B88F200002DDA219791299503010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey Arnie sure was a great slideshow and especially enjoyed hearing the good narration done by Dave. Looking forward to seeing everybody in two weeks at Baraboo. thanks for sharing. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: fero_ah at city-net.com To: Stationary Engine List , Old_Engine Subject: [SEL] Local News Coverage - Findlay Ohio Show Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:27:27 +0000 > Hiya Folks, > > Yesterday we were visited by a photojournalism student who was working as a > summer intern at The Courier (The local Findaly paper). He was a real > interesting young fella and he's taken a number of reallly good pics. > > http://www.thecourier.com > > Just click on the pic of the kid with the baby Reid and that will take you to > the slideshow. Dave Rotigel is the voice in the background. Enjoy!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldengin at verizon.net Mon Aug 4 05:43:30 2008 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:43:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping References: <5BB61B51645B41CDA11778E0AC6FEAAF@your9e74d7efa7> <1217268727.488e0bf7e91b3@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <002e01c8f62f$b8b25590$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> At this writing the camping is saved... more later Leroy ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Pfeiffer Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping > > Since I now work 2 jobs so Bill can have health insurance, I have not been > on the list much. > > Just was wondering if anyone is going to do the usual camping area grab? > > If so we will arrive on Tuesday with our 29' trailer with the pull out > sides. > > Looking forward to seeing you all, for possibily the last time. > > > XOXOX > Peg Pfeiffer> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 > 6:55 AM > > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 4 06:49:42 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:49:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 8N Fords References: <6f6025160807072343p666f4df8g2573b03f922555fe@mail.gmail.com><010901c8e124$ca0cae00$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b><9CF01CDD-352C-4990-9428-733C79AF8893@alltel.net><375acf600807081339n40917421s31c831a9854894ce@mail.gmail.com> <004b01c8e159$1d6e83a0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Message-ID: <001a01c8f638$f330eb10$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Ok ..now I am getting wind of a couple JD A and B's for sale down here . Found an H and a GP too . >>> On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Chuck Balyeat wrote: >>> > Do those things have enough tractive weight to pull a 2 wheeled >>> > round bale >>> >>> From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 4 08:03:08 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:03:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need 35mm Slide Scanner & Viewer - Thanks In-Reply-To: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> References: <7EDFCB1742204CABAFF287453CBF3CF6@FAMILY> Message-ID: <1217862188.48971a2cd2ec9@webmail.city-net.com> Paul, If you Google 35mm slide conversion services, you'll get a gazillion hits. It seems like a no-brainer option. If you're concerned about quality, I see that Kodak is in the business of doing these conversions. I'll bet that they know a thing or two about getting a quality image. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting Paul Maples : > Thanks everyone for all of your input, you certainly have got this old man > to "thinking" which is something I don't normally do, it has activated a > whole array of new sensors in the head that are normally dormant. > > A friend of mine, that lives in East Tennessee, told me he had recently went > > to Wal-Mart and they charged him $2.50 per CD and that they were able to > average putting 70 slides on a CD. He had them scan 625 slides for him. He > is going to go to the store tomorrow and see if they will repeat this again > and if so I think I would be crazy not to ship my slides to him and let him > go to Wal-mart and have them put on a CD. > > I checked with my Wal-Mart and they want $.61 a slide so my store is now an > option. From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon Aug 4 15:05:49 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:05:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond Message-ID: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi guys, As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net Mon Aug 4 15:59:59 2008 From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (armstrong) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:59:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <000601c8f685$d4fd9150$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5> Craig, The Air Force Museum in Dayton ,Ohio and perhaps the Neal Armstrong Space Museum in Wapakoneta ,Ohio you would find worthwhile visiting. Both relatively close to Portland. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "craig morrison" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond > Hi guys, > As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of > weeks and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell > coverage? And has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and > see or visit after Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) > > Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. > P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 4 16:38:19 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <176193.64387.qm@web55913.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I've had every Cellphone carrier, and by far Verizon is the best i've found..? I? may have had one dropped call in the last year.?? BTW Craig, where do you hail from in Scotland? I've got some friends in Aberdeen. Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA --- On Mon, 8/4/08, craig morrison wrote: From: craig morrison Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 5:05 PM Hi guys, As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 5 05:16:12 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:16:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Message-ID: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Hi all Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite or what???? It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera 360 degrees. The whole east coast of Oz is visible. Peter, Oz From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 05:59:44 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 5:59:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter Message-ID: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter is a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops I've checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? Thanks for any help. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 5 06:11:26 2008 From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:11:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > Hi all > > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via > satellite > or what???? > It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. > Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on > the > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the > camera > 360 degrees. > The whole east coast of Oz is visible. > > Peter, Oz > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 > 6:03 AM > > > From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 5 06:25:41 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:25:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <001701c8f6fe$c2020ee0$0200a8c0@PETER> Mine is more recent because my neighbour's house has only been for sale since January. Peter, Oz >I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. > Skip > > >> Hi all >> >> Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via >> satellite >> or what???? >> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. >> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click >> on >> street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on >> the >> red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the >> camera >> 360 degrees. >> The whole east coast of Oz is visible. >> >> Peter, Oz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 >> 6:03 AM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From MaytagTwin at aol.com Tue Aug 5 06:27:17 2008 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:27:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/2008 8:02:03 AM Central Daylight Time, jbcast at charter.net writes: My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter is a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops I've checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? Thanks for any help. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA Hi J.B., My Winnebago Le Share with the 2.0 L turbodiesel engine (Renault) used a Paris Rhone alternator. I don't know about the starter. I do know a Bosch alternator would interchange parts with the Paris Rhone. I sold the Winnebago a while back and don't have parts connections anymore but you might Google "Le Sharo" parts and come up with some possibilities. There were sources in Dallas and in Iowa, too. Good luck in your search. Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO, USA **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Tue Aug 5 06:36:31 2008 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:36:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <001701c8f6fe$c2020ee0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <005101c8f700$466e3ef0$68c6eddc@Edd> My son said it was about mid March when they went by his place. EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > Mine is more recent because my neighbour's house has only been for sale > since January. > Peter, Oz > > > >>I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. >> Skip > >> >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via >>> satellite >>> or what???? >>> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. >>> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click >>> on >>> street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on >>> the >>> red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the >>> camera >>> 360 degrees. >>> The whole east coast of Oz is visible. >>> >>> Peter, Oz >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: >>> 8/5/2008 >>> 6:03 AM >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From b2 at chooka.net Tue Aug 5 06:42:18 2008 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:42:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <000e01c8f701$143a6b60$190a0a0a@apluscomputer.local> The areas with high quality street view images are done via cars driving around and capturing the images. Here's a story on this procedure taking place in the UK. http://www.bigmouthmedia.com/live/articles/up-close-with-the-google-street-v iew-spiders.asp/4920/ I'm not seeing Google street views of my town. B? Bill Brueck Chatfield, Minnesota, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:16 AM To: Oldengine.org; ATIS Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Hi all Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite or what???? It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera 360 degrees. The whole east coast of Oz is visible. Peter, Oz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 5 06:42:48 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:42:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER><001701c8f6fe$c2020ee0$0200a8c0@PETER> <005101c8f700$466e3ef0$68c6eddc@Edd> Message-ID: <002b01c8f701$26177a80$0200a8c0@PETER> I am having problems around my old place in Newcastle because of the high download demand since it was on TV tonight. Peter, Oz > My son said it was about mid March when they went by his place. > EDD PAYNE > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W > Australia > 2852 > Phone:0263742387 > edsengns at optusnet.com.au > edsengns > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > > >> Mine is more recent because my neighbour's house has only been for sale >> since January. >> Peter, Oz >> >> >> >>>I just did mine and see that the picture was made about two years ago. >>> Skip >> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via >>>> satellite >>>> or what???? >>>> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. >>>> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click >>>> on >>>> street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click >>>> on >>>> the >>>> red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the >>>> camera >>>> 360 degrees. >>>> The whole east coast of Oz is visible. >>>> >>>> Peter, Oz >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1592 - Release Date: >>>> 8/5/2008 >>>> 6:03 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 08:11:34 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:11:34 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <6f6025160808050811y85763f6rd1f247cb1a3e7d6a@mail.gmail.com> On 04/08/2008, craig morrison wrote: > Hi guys, > As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks > and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And > has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after > Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) > We use our standard UK tri-band mobile (cell) phone and it works fine, not many folks call us in the USA, but a lot do from the UK so we prefer to keep our existing number. We are with Vodafone which I think switches to Verizon when we land. Calls to US numbers are made normally without any fuss and the charges aren't too bad. Dayton OH is a good place to visit, but it's a fair drive, nearly 3 hours from Muncie, a bit more from Portland or Decatur. It is nearly all back roads as well. The USAF Museum is a great place, we belong to the Friends of The Museum and normally pay our yearly subscription while we are there, then we go and spend a small fortune in the Museum shop and get it back in member's discount! The Museum is free, there are no entrance charges. If you want to do the Presidential Aircraft tour then you MUST have you passport with you. Indianapolis Speedway is worth a trip, but another long drive. Amish centres abound in the State of Indiana, especially towards the top of the state. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 5 08:13:23 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:13:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <1217949203.48986e13e376e@webmail.city-net.com> Craig, The BIG question is where are you flying back FROM? Chicago? LA? NY? That makes a big difference in terms of what's reasonable to visit. See ya, Arnie PS - Verizon. PPS - Only looking forward to meeting SOME of us again? SOME you hope you NEVER see again? 8-)) Quoting craig morrison : > As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of weeks > and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? And > has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit after > Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) > > Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. > P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 08:15:57 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:15:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter In-Reply-To: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> References: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> Message-ID: <6f6025160808050815x2843d232i54016af123792ead@mail.gmail.com> On 05/08/2008, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter is > a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops I've > checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? Thanks for > any help. > J.B. Castagnos JB: Paris-Rhone was the major French auto-electric company in the 1960's, but along with Ducellier and others they have seemingly vanished off the face of the planet. Which Perkins engine is it? 4-203? 4-236? There are thousands of them, and selecting a start can be a nightmare. Find out the engine details, stamped around the area of the casting that the injection pump sits on. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 5 08:32:02 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:32:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter References: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> Message-ID: <002201c8f710$69d89c40$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I see the complete starter as an R & R , but I couldnt find a pinion drive gear for it . The goofier it is , the tighter they hold the remaining spares to their chests . I'll send you a picture in another mail , cause ahh , well.....you know . > My brother has a A-C tractor, I think it's a Perkins engine, the starter > is a Paris Rhone D11E144. This is an unfamiliar brand to me and the shops > I've checked with. Anyone no where I can find a starter drive for it? > Thanks for any help. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA /sel From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 5 10:01:02 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:01:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] I know that dude ! References: <20080805085944.HNJ6P.7551.root@mp11> <002201c8f710$69d89c40$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <000401c8f71c$d816b190$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> As I am he and he is me and we are all together . coo coo ca frikin choo! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080804/ap_on_fe_st/odd_car_fence I heard tell of a guy that was "forced" to build a fence around his junkyard with ALL of the doors and partitions from an airport restroom remodeling job . From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Tue Aug 5 10:14:19 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:14:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <1217949203.48986e13e376e@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000b01c8f71e$b2e2b2a0$8c516f58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Arnie, I fly back from Chicago, as to meeting some of you again I don't mean what you think, I meant it would be very unlikely to see everyone on the list. Cheers, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] trip accross the pond > Craig, > > The BIG question is where are you flying back FROM? > Chicago? LA? NY? That makes a big difference in terms > of what's reasonable to visit. > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - Verizon. > PPS - Only looking forward to meeting SOME of us again? SOME you hope you > NEVER > see again? 8-)) > > Quoting craig morrison : > >> As some of you may know I am heading for your shore in a couple of >> weeks >> and need some advice.What is the best network to get for cell coverage? >> And >> has anyone got any ideas or suggestions of what to go and see or visit >> after >> Portland ( Fly home Thursday after Portland) >> >> Thanks ,Craig in Scotland. >> P.S; Looking forward to meeting some of you again > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: > 04/08/2008 08:09 > > From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 11:21:15 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:21:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Paris Rohne starter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080805142115.2I37D.23622.root@mp19> > > Hi J.B., > My Winnebago Le Share with the 2.0 L turbodiesel engine (Renault) used a > Paris Rhone alternator. I don't know about the starter. I do know a Bosch > alternator would interchange parts with the Paris Rhone. I sold the Winnebago a > while back and don't have parts connections anymore but you might Google "Le > Sharo" parts and come up with some possibilities. There were sources in > Dallas and in Iowa, too. > > Good luck in your search. > > Ron Carroll > Thanks Ron, I'll try matching it up to some Bosch parts, maybe I'll get lucky. >>Paris-Rhone was the major French auto-electric company in the 1960's, >but along with Ducellier and others they have seemingly vanished off >the face of the planet. >Which Perkins engine is it? 4-203? 4-236? There are thousands of >them, and selecting a start can be a nightmare. >Find out the engine details, stamped around the area of the casting >that the injection pump sits on. >Peter A Forbes << Peter, I looked at it at lunch and it's a three cylinder, can't see numbers without a light and some cleaning. I'll go back prepared. ---- Chuck Balyeat wrote: > I see the complete starter as an R & R , but I couldnt find a pinion drive > gear for it . > The goofier it is , the tighter they hold the remaining spares to their > chests . > I'll send you a picture in another mail , cause ahh , well.....you know . > > Chuck, it looks like the picture, is it available, and what's the price. Thanks to all, J.B. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 5 11:53:19 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:53:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000b01c8f71e$b2e2b2a0$8c516f58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8f67e$418b9cc0$76b26e58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <1217949203.48986e13e376e@webmail.city-net.com> <000b01c8f71e$b2e2b2a0$8c516f58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <1217962399.4898a19fe671d@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Craig, Well, if you're flying back from Chicago, I'd recommend the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. http://www.msichicago.org/ And as a single guy, I think you MUST sample some of Chicago's night life. Specifically, the jazz and blues clubs. Here's a starting point list... http://www.10best.com/Chicago,IL/Nightlife/Jazz_&_Blues_Clubs/ The best source of info on the best jazz and blues clubs would be someone local. There's probably someone on the list who's been to some good ones and could lead you astray. 8->> See ya, Arnie PS - Rumor has it that Curt Andree is lining up a "Gentlemen's Club" visit for Baraboo. Quoting craig morrison : > I fly back from Chicago, as to meeting some of you again I don't mean > what you think, I meant it would be very unlikely to see everyone on the > list. From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 14:38:37 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston Message-ID: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that is semi headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder covered by a four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in the plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped directly to the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If it works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. Thanks in advance, Jimmy O?Hagan Jim O'Hagan From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 14:50:17 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:50:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <008801c8f745$40499f70$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Clear DayI have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the worm drive that fits inside of it. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the list? Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Aug 5 14:48:39 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:48:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston Message-ID: <20080805.144839.2184.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Jim. I helped a friend get a piston out with a pressure washer. Filled cylinder with water, took the quick coupler off the wand and screwed it into a pipe fitting in the head and hit it with a couple of quick blasts. Piston started to move, more quick shots and it was out. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 "Jim O'Hagan" writes: > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that is > semi > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > covered by a > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in > the > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > directly to > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > it > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > Thanks in > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan > > > > Jim O'Hagan > ____________________________________________________________ Stop collection calls. Click here to receive information on how to improve your credit. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mIZWmWHyy1BWE8Njpy5Cr0QFCua52h6twX0VxKFU1SCpBHH/ From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 5 15:12:30 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:12:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <32DDF03D-7649-4A1F-A169-8F39BCA4DA0A@rustyiron.com> On Aug 5, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that > is semi > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > covered by a > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in the > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > directly to > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > it > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > Thanks in > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan Hi Jimmy, I don't understand what you're saying about grease being difficult to clean up. What's the matter, is Pam out of town? http://engines.rustyiron.com/piston From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 17:11:30 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:11:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the gear on the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the list? Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Aug 5 17:49:14 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:49:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston References: <20080805.144839.2184.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: Interesting. Never heard of that method before. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] stuck piston > Hi Jim. > I helped a friend get a piston out with a pressure washer. Filled > cylinder with water, took the quick coupler off the wand and screwed it > into a pipe fitting in the head and hit it with a couple of quick blasts. > Piston started to move, more quick shots and it was out. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 "Jim O'Hagan" > writes: >> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7" piston from a cylinder that is >> semi >> headless in that it has a 4 " hole in the top of the cylinder >> covered by a >> four bolt plate. The plate has a ?" pipe threaded hole centered in >> the >> plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped >> directly to >> the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If >> it >> works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. >> Thanks in >> advance, Jimmy O'Hagan >> >> >> >> Jim O'Hagan >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Stop collection calls. Click here to receive information on how to > improve your credit. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mIZWmWHyy1BWE8Njpy5Cr0QFCua52h6twX0VxKFU1SCpBHH/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 8/3/2008 > 1:00 PM > > > From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 18:41:19 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:41:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <32DDF03D-7649-4A1F-A169-8F39BCA4DA0A@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20080806014118.198F965B452@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi Rob, please send me some of your Home movies so I can show Pam ,she won't be the first. Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:13 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] stuck piston On Aug 5, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that > is semi > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > covered by a > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in the > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > directly to > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > it > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > Thanks in > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan Hi Jimmy, I don't understand what you're saying about grease being difficult to clean up. What's the matter, is Pam out of town? http://engines.rustyiron.com/piston _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edstoller at earthlink.net Tue Aug 5 18:21:48 2008 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:21:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed> Hi Berry, You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it soak and lightly tap it? Is the motor square or round? Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "bdb" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model > H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" > that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the gear > on > the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the list? > Barry > > Barry D Buchanan > 410 S. Moore > Ottumwa, IA. 52501 > > When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look > like a nail. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 19:22:40 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:22:40 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> <00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed> Message-ID: <004d01c8f76b$4d287ec0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Hi Ed- The gear is not stuck. The part that fits inside the gear that raises the gear has splines on the inside of it and for some reason today they stripped when I tried to start the engine. If I remember right the engine is kind of square. I've been searching the internet and have found out my motor is to old for new parts or at least that is what most sites tell me. The # on the starter is 29965 and all I can find new is the end cap with the brushes. I'm sure there is somewhere that I can get parts, I'd even buy a whole starter if needed. I'll check out the links you gave me and see if they can help. Thanks for the Help! Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Hi Berry, > > You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ or > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ > > Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it soak > and lightly tap it? > > Is the motor square or round? > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bdb" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM > Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > >> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model >> H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" >> that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the gear >> on >> the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the >> list? >> Barry >> >> Barry D Buchanan >> 410 S. Moore >> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >> >> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >> like a nail. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 19:36:41 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:36:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> > >> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7" piston from a cylinder that is > >> semi > >> headless in that it has a 4 " hole in the top of the cylinder > >> covered by a > >> four bolt plate. The plate has a ?" pipe threaded hole centered in > >> the > >> plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > >> directly to > >> the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > >> it > >> works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > >> Thanks in > >> advance, Jimmy O'Hagan > >> If you put 2500lbs of pressure on a severely stuck piston you will probably split the cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 5 15:37:23 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:37:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805.144839.2184.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20080805183723.NXMXD.37377.root@mp12> ---- rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > Hi Jim. > I helped a friend get a piston out with a pressure washer. Filled > cylinder with water, took the quick coupler off the wand and screwed it > into a pipe fitting in the head and hit it with a couple of quick blasts. > Piston started to move, more quick shots and it was out. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:38:37 -0700 "Jim O'Hagan" > writes: > > Hi,I could use some help removing a 7? piston from a cylinder that is > > semi > > headless in that it has a 4 ? hole in the top of the cylinder > > covered by a > > four bolt plate. The plate has a ?? pipe threaded hole centered in > > the > > plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > > directly to > > the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > > it > > works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > > Thanks in > > advance, Jimmy O?Hagan > > > > > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > If that piston is stuck solid you'll be looking for a cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? J.B. Catagnos Belle Rose, LA From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 5 20:03:06 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:03:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295><00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed> <004d01c8f76b$4d287ec0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <001c01c8f770$f35cc440$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft which transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its bearings, and you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball bearings on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel Horse. So what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a stinkin bearing? I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. If it had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas its a 10 HP Briggs. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "bdb" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Hi Ed- The gear is not stuck. The part that fits inside the gear that > raises > the gear has splines on the inside of it and for some reason today they > stripped when I tried to start the engine. If I remember right the engine > is > kind of square. I've been searching the internet and have found out my > motor > is to old for new parts or at least that is what most sites tell me. The # > on the starter is 29965 and all I can find new is the end cap with the > brushes. I'm sure there is somewhere that I can get parts, I'd even buy a > whole starter if needed. I'll check out the links you gave me and see if > they can help. Thanks for the Help! > Barry > > Barry D Buchanan > 410 S. Moore > Ottumwa, IA. 52501 > > When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look > like a nail. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed stoller" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > >> Hi Berry, >> >> You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ or >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ >> >> Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it soak >> and lightly tap it? >> >> Is the motor square or round? >> >> Ed Stoller >> New Fairfield, CT >> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bdb" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >>> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model >>> H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the "thingy" >>> that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the >>> gear >>> on >>> the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the >>> list? >>> Barry >>> >>> Barry D Buchanan >>> 410 S. Moore >>> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >>> >>> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >>> like a nail. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Aug 5 20:28:13 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:28:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts Message-ID: <20080805.202814.856.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Rick. Surely you have already thought of these but. Use two separate bearings. Replace with bronze bushing. Pour babbitt for a new bearing. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:03:06 -0400 "Tod Engine Foundation" writes: > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft > which > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its > bearings, and > you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball > bearings > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel > Horse. So > what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a > stinkin > bearing? > > I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. > If it > had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas > its a 10 > HP Briggs. > > Rick ____________________________________________________________ Stop foreclosure. Click here to stay in your home and rebuild credit. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3meXxHccXzDkBYDIDVh4WNLNSYZwarFpRVYg0fgLZPdty0YV/ From bdb at mchsi.com Tue Aug 5 20:36:10 2008 From: bdb at mchsi.com (bdb) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:36:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805213838.8FF934C8CEA@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com><002601c8f758$fa6bf160$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295><00ed01c8f762$cc60c9d0$3302a8c0@Ed><004d01c8f76b$4d287ec0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> <001c01c8f770$f35cc440$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <007e01c8f775$91b6a6c0$0100a8c0@VALUED20606295> Thanks for the thought Rick. After 3 hours of surfing the internet using Google I finally found a place that could cross reference my starter and BINGO I found on that will work according to his website. It was only $59 so if it doesn't fit I'm not out a lot. Could you possibly machine apart that would allow you to use two separate bearings? I have found that with a mill and lathe there isn't a whole lot that can't be made (except the part for my WheelHorse) I have a lot of problems with my lower back(L5 is shot) and the WheelHorse is easy to get on and off of so it is my ride at Portland and with the load I usually have on my trailer the WheelHorse is all I have room for. Thanks Barry Barry D Buchanan 410 S. Moore Ottumwa, IA. 52501 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft which > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its bearings, > and > you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball bearings > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel Horse. > So > what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a > stinkin > bearing? > > I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. If it > had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas its a > 10 > HP Briggs. > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bdb" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > >> Hi Ed- The gear is not stuck. The part that fits inside the gear that >> raises >> the gear has splines on the inside of it and for some reason today they >> stripped when I tried to start the engine. If I remember right the engine >> is >> kind of square. I've been searching the internet and have found out my >> motor >> is to old for new parts or at least that is what most sites tell me. The >> # >> on the starter is 29965 and all I can find new is the end cap with the >> brushes. I'm sure there is somewhere that I can get parts, I'd even buy a >> whole starter if needed. I'll check out the links you gave me and see if >> they can help. Thanks for the Help! >> Barry >> >> Barry D Buchanan >> 410 S. Moore >> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >> >> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >> like a nail. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ed stoller" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >>> Hi Berry, >>> >>> You might try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tecumseh_engine_group/ >>> or >>> >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WHEELHORSEGARDENTRACTORSONLY/ >>> >>> Did you try putting penetrating oil, like PB Blast on it, letting it >>> soak >>> and lightly tap it? >>> >>> Is the motor square or round? >>> >>> Ed Stoller >>> New Fairfield, CT >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "bdb" >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:11 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >>> >>> >>>> HELP!!!!! I have a WheelHorse lawn tractor with a Tecumseh engine Model >>>> H60-75117E . I am in desperate need of the starter gear and the >>>> "thingy" >>>> that fits inside of it and moves it up on the shaft to mesh with the >>>> gear >>>> on >>>> the flywheel. Are there any Wheelhorse or Tecumseh collectors on the >>>> list? >>>> Barry >>>> >>>> Barry D Buchanan >>>> 410 S. Moore >>>> Ottumwa, IA. 52501 >>>> >>>> When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to look >>>> like a nail. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 5 20:44:16 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:44:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080805.202814.856.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <003f01c8f776$b398db40$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Its a bastard size and two standard bearings won't fit in the housing. The repair I made involved a Bolens tractor that cost me $200. The WH is in the garage. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Hi Rick. > Surely you have already thought of these but. Use two separate bearings. > Replace with bronze bushing. Pour babbitt for a new bearing. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:03:06 -0400 "Tod Engine Foundation" > writes: >> I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in 1977-78. The jackshaft >> which >> transmits power from the engine belt to the deck belt lost its >> bearings, and >> you can't get a replacement. It was specially made with two ball >> bearings >> on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially made for Wheel >> Horse. So >> what do you do with an old WH that is fully functional except for a >> stinkin >> bearing? >> >> I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to do that just yet. >> If it >> had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part you need. But alas >> its a 10 >> HP Briggs. >> >> Rick > ____________________________________________________________ > Stop foreclosure. Click here to stay in your home and rebuild credit. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3meXxHccXzDkBYDIDVh4WNLNSYZwarFpRVYg0fgLZPdty0YV/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 20:59:27 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:59:27 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> Message-ID: <20080806035929.C391B4C8C38@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> J.B. It's kinda rare so I wouldn't want to rupture the cylinder. On the other hand the piston WILL come out! The engine is a Field Brundage. Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jbcast at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:37 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Judge Tommy Turner Subject: Re: [SEL] stuck piston > >> Hi,I could use some help removing a 7" piston from a cylinder that is > >> semi > >> headless in that it has a 4 " hole in the top of the cylinder > >> covered by a > >> four bolt plate. The plate has a ?" pipe threaded hole centered in > >> the > >> plate. Has any one had any luck using a pressure washer piped > >> directly to > >> the cylinder to completely fill the cyl. and push the piston out. If > >> it > >> works ,it would be an easier clean-up than the Grease gun method. > >> Thanks in > >> advance, Jimmy O'Hagan > >> If you put 2500lbs of pressure on a severely stuck piston you will probably split the cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 5 21:23:26 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:23:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> References: <20080805223641.68A4G.45423.root@mp18> Message-ID: On Aug 5, 2008, at 7:36 PM, wrote: > If you put 2500lbs of pressure on a severely stuck piston you will > probably split the cylinder, is it an easy one to replace? Pounds... psi... hammers... prybars... Stuck pistons... stuck bolts... stuck microchips... Every job has a point where it can turn to "aw shucks," regardless of the methodology involved. One thing about pressuring up a cylinder is that the cylinder will expand, loosening it's grip on the piston, perhaps allowing lubricant into the newly opened space. Rob From jbcast at charter.net Wed Aug 6 04:03:20 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 4:03:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] stuck piston In-Reply-To: <20080806035929.C391B4C8C38@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <20080806070320.LJF4A.53728.root@mp12> ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: > J.B. It's kinda rare so I wouldn't want to rupture the cylinder. On the > other hand the piston WILL come out! The engine is a Field Brundage. > I had to sleeve a headless cylinder for a friend. He used a grease gun and blew a 3" piece out of the cylinder, then he broke the piston out. I had to braze a 1/4" area at the top of the cylinder to have something to recieve the sleeve, don't want to see you in the same fix. I do a lot of marine engines, usually stuck bad when they;re stuck. I use a piece of pipe on the skirt, try to press the piston inward first. Once it moves start back out with it. Apply pressure to the piston , if it doesn't move heat the cylinder while pressure is on. If you can't get it in a press make a frame to go around the cylinder and use a hydraulic jack. Because agrease gun worked on one engine is no guarantee it wlil work on another. I hear stories of how people had a hard time removing a stuck piston then use the same rings, piston, and bore. I've had cylinders that after removing the piston and boring for the sleeve I was still hitting rust at .100" over . J.B. From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Aug 6 09:41:03 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:41:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <001c01c8f770$f35cc440$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick: You might want to look at "water pump bearings" for cars. It sounds like they are close to what you are looking for. Shaft, two inner races and one common outer race. Pre-loaded and lubed. If it were mine and I couldn't find one, it'd tick me off enough to go to the effort of "cheating the junkman". I've done it before and get a lot of satisfaction out of using something way beyond it's planned obsolescence. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Tod Engine > Foundation > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:03 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in > 1977-78. The jackshaft which > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck > belt lost its bearings, and > you can't get a replacement. It was specially > made with two ball bearings > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially > made for Wheel Horse. So > what do you do with an old WH that is fully > functional except for a stinkin > bearing? > > I guess you scrap it, but I can't bring myself to > do that just yet. If it > had a Tecumseh engine I would send you the part > you need. But alas its a 10 > HP Briggs. > > Rick From jbcast at charter.net Wed Aug 6 10:18:20 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:18:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> > > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in > > 1977-78. The jackshaft which > > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck > > belt lost its bearings, and > > you can't get a replacement. It was specially > > made with two ball bearings > > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially > > made for Wheel Horse. So > > what do you do with an old WH that is fully > > functional except for a stinkin > > bearing? John Deere uses a bearing like that for the jackshaft on it's mower deck, they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct size I would make bushings or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse would have gone through the expense of having a special bearing made for such a limited production, there's somthing out there that will work. J.B. Castagnos From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Aug 6 14:07:54 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> References: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> Message-ID: <62044.168.215.206.73.1218056874.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? I took a look at some of my bearing books and McGill makes bearings you describe. They put them in cam followers. Perhaps one will match. I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller bearings pressed inside a thin machined tube would do the trick too. This will provide both the cantilevered load support and the thrust support you need. Curt H > >> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in >> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which >> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck >> > belt lost its bearings, and >> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially >> > made with two ball bearings >> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially >> > made for Wheel Horse. So >> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully >> > functional except for a stinkin >> > bearing? > John Deere uses a bearing like that for the jackshaft on it's mower deck, > they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct size I would make bushings > or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse would have gone through the > expense of having a special bearing made for such a limited production, > there's somthing out there that will work. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Aug 6 16:07:42 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:07:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: <20080806131820.EPNX8.66685.root@mp18> <62044.168.215.206.73.1218056874.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <007201c8f819$3b4ef400$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and 1.75" on the other. Should it be neccessary to go to using two seperate bearings the cast iron housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 3/8" dia. and still retain enough strength to work. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? > > I took a look at some of my bearing books and McGill makes bearings you > describe. They put them in cam followers. Perhaps one will match. > > I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller bearings pressed inside a > thin machined tube would do the trick too. This will provide both the > cantilevered load support and the thrust support you need. > Curt H > > >> >>> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in >>> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which >>> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck >>> > belt lost its bearings, and >>> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially >>> > made with two ball bearings >>> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially >>> > made for Wheel Horse. So >>> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully >>> > functional except for a stinkin >>> > bearing? >> John Deere uses a bearing like that for the jackshaft on it's mower deck, >> they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct size I would make bushings >> or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse would have gone through the >> expense of having a special bearing made for such a limited production, >> there's somthing out there that will work. >> J.B. Castagnos >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Aug 6 18:57:14 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:57:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <007201c8f819$3b4ef400$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick: Check out this site. It touts Chinese bearings but I'm sure there are several manufacturers of the same parts. http://www.directindustry.com/scripts/go_to_web.php A real quick look tells me that you can get what you want in a water pump bearing. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Tod Engine > Foundation > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 06:08 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer > race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" > long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and > 1.75" on the other. > > Should it be neccessary to go to using two > seperate bearings the cast iron > housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 > 3/8" dia. and still retain > enough strength to work. > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > > > > Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? > > > > I took a look at some of my bearing books and > McGill makes bearings you > > describe. They put them in cam followers. > Perhaps one will match. > > > > I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller > bearings pressed inside a > > thin machined tube would do the trick too. This > will provide both the > > cantilevered load support and the thrust > support you need. > > Curt H > > > > > >> > >>> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in > >>> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which > >>> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck > >>> > belt lost its bearings, and > >>> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially > >>> > made with two ball bearings > >>> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially > >>> > made for Wheel Horse. So > >>> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully > >>> > functional except for a stinkin > >>> > bearing? > >> John Deere uses a bearing like that for the > jackshaft on it's mower deck, > >> they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct > size I would make bushings > >> or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse > would have gone through the > >> expense of having a special bearing made for > such a limited production, > >> there's somthing out there that will work. > >> J.B. Castagnos > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Aug 6 19:19:10 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:19:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts References: Message-ID: <00c301c8f833$faa4bd20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I get "cannot find server" at that address. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > Rick: > > Check out this site. It touts Chinese bearings but I'm sure there are > several manufacturers of the same parts. > > http://www.directindustry.com/scripts/go_to_web.php > > A real quick look tells me that you can get what you want in a water pump > bearing. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Tod Engine >> Foundation >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 06:08 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >> The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer >> race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" >> long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and >> 1.75" on the other. >> >> Should it be neccessary to go to using two >> seperate bearings the cast iron >> housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 >> 3/8" dia. and still retain >> enough strength to work. >> >> Rick >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts >> >> >> > >> > Can you share the bearing dimensions with us? >> > >> > I took a look at some of my bearing books and >> McGill makes bearings you >> > describe. They put them in cam followers. >> Perhaps one will match. >> > >> > I was also thinking a pair of tapered roller >> bearings pressed inside a >> > thin machined tube would do the trick too. This >> will provide both the >> > cantilevered load support and the thrust >> support you need. >> > Curt H >> > >> > >> >> >> >>> > I have a WH A-100 lawn tractor. Built only in >> >>> > 1977-78. The jackshaft which >> >>> > transmits power from the engine belt to the deck >> >>> > belt lost its bearings, and >> >>> > you can't get a replacement. It was specially >> >>> > made with two ball bearings >> >>> > on a common outer race about 2" apart. Specially >> >>> > made for Wheel Horse. So >> >>> > what do you do with an old WH that is fully >> >>> > functional except for a stinkin >> >>> > bearing? >> >> John Deere uses a bearing like that for the >> jackshaft on it's mower deck, >> >> they sell it seperate. If it's not the correct >> size I would make bushings >> >> or atart boring holes. I doubt Wheel Horse >> would have gone through the >> >> expense of having a special bearing made for >> such a limited production, >> >> there's somthing out there that will work. >> >> J.B. Castagnos >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sndakitto at activ8.net.au Thu Aug 7 00:44:39 2008 From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au (Steven N Kitto) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:44:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Peter Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw one driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From info that he had they are only filming Oz and US Steve Steve and Denise Kitto 95 Coleyville Road Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 Ph 07 54671541 As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16 To: Oldengine.org; ATIS Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Hi all Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite or what???? It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera 360 degrees. The whole east coast of Oz is visible. Peter, Oz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 01:22:52 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:22:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Message-ID: <001d01c8f866$c91f3f40$0200a8c0@PETER> And also Japan http://maps.google.com.au/maps?near=japan&q=where+is+google+street+view&f=p&rl=1 Peter, Oz > Peter > Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has > contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw > one > driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car > fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. > Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From > info that he had they are only filming Oz and US > > Steve > > Steve and Denise Kitto > 95 Coleyville Road > Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 > Ph 07 54671541 > > As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. > Proverbs 27:19 > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16 > To: Oldengine.org; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > > Hi all > > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via > satellite > or what???? > It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. > Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on > the > > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the > camera > 360 degrees. > The whole east coast of Oz is visible. > > Peter, Oz > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From astfgl at iamnota.org Thu Aug 7 01:30:54 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:30:54 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual In-Reply-To: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll pass it along. Cheers, glen. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 03:49:32 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:49:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual In-Reply-To: <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <6f6025160808070349t583f02a0jfb374ebbfae90783@mail.gmail.com> On 07/08/2008, Glen Harris wrote: > Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a > lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll > pass it along. > > Cheers, glen. > We have one of the large Sioux sets, similar to Reggie's one. I know we can still get parts for it, it might be worth contacting on of the specialist grinding wheel suppliers to see if you can get more info from them, or at least if they know of a source for information. The other folks to ask are the small engine reconditioners, many of whom use these for doing vale seats etc. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Aug 7 04:22:18 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 04:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Message-ID: <2238.165.206.180.35.1218108138.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> So how often do they do that? Around here, that info would be good for only about 6 months as things change - addresses, street names, houses go up, come down, go up again, etc. When I was traveling around Iowa a couple years back for work, I found their maps to be among the LEAST reliable. They had me going down streets that didn't go clear through, etc. I finally started using sources OTHER than their maps. YAHOO is even worse, they don't even have maps for several locations I've tried to look up lately. Bill > Peter > Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has > contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw > one > driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car > fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. > Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From > info that he had they are only filming Oz and US > > Steve > > Steve and Denise Kitto > 95 Coleyville Road > Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 > Ph 07 54671541 > > As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. > Proverbs 27:19 > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16 > To: Oldengine.org; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members > > Hi all > > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via > satellite > or what???? > It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level. > Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on > the > > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the > camera > 360 degrees. > The whole east coast of Oz is visible. > > Peter, Oz > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 04:56:03 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:56:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <001c01c8f884$916e8510$0200a8c0@PETER> Hi Glen I was just reading your reply and my poor old brain had a flash. I think I contacted Black & Decker USA and they sent me something on this machine, I will have a dig around. I always try and contact a manufacturer, is possible, to see if they have any archived material. Quite often I score well. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia Ph: 61-266453455 http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a > lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll > pass it along. > > Cheers, glen. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Aug 7 07:09:55 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:09:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts In-Reply-To: <00c301c8f833$faa4bd20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick: Sorry about that! The dinner bell was ringing and because I was in a hurry, I didn't check the address carefully. It was a redirect from an industry page. Try this source: http://www.ourbearings.com/water_pump_bearings.htm I just tested it and it is good. You can also use a search engine to look for "automobile water pump bearing" and get a number of sites. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Tod Engine > Foundation > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 09:19 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > I get "cannot find server" at that address. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > > > > Rick: > > > > Check out this site. It touts Chinese bearings > but I'm sure there are > > several manufacturers of the same parts. > > > > http://www.directindustry.com/scripts/go_to_web.php > > > > A real quick look tells me that you can get > what you want in a water pump > > bearing. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> Behalf Of Tod Engine > >> Foundation > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 06:08 PM > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Wheel Horse parts > >> > >> > >> The shaft is .625 dia. x 4.5" long. The outer > >> race is 1.180" OD and 1.5" > >> long. The shaft sticks out 1.25" on one end and > >> 1.75" on the other. > >> > >> Should it be neccessary to go to using two > >> seperate bearings the cast iron > >> housing that it fits into can be bored out to 1 > >> 3/8" dia. and still retain > >> enough strength to work. > >> > >> Rick From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 15:12:04 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:12:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> Hi Glen HOLD THE BOAT, I found the B&D stuff. I think TOM Martin from NZ sent me some of it, the other stuff came from B&D, but not sure if it was UK or USA. I have emailed them again. I will scan and create a PDF over the weekend. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia Ph: 61-266453455 http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a > lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll > pass it along. > > Cheers, glen. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From astfgl at iamnota.org Thu Aug 7 16:52:04 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:52:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual In-Reply-To: <000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org> <000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <489B8AA4.2060405@iamnota.org> I'd appreciate that Peter. I'll be in Maclean visiting the parents at the end of the month, so if the scanned files (High res please!) are too big for you to email, I'm sure I can con Dad into playing chauffeur. The Indian company which B&D outsourced the manufacturing to in 1976 and then parted company with in 1993 is still making them as the SDO 150 FE VALVE REFACER and SDO 162 ANGULAR VIBROCENTRIC KIT. Unfortunately, neither they or their distributors have replied to my emails. Thanks, glen. Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi Glen > HOLD THE BOAT, I found the B&D stuff. > I think TOM Martin from NZ sent me some of it, the other stuff came from > B&D, but not sure if it was UK or USA. I have emailed them again. > I will scan and create a PDF over the weekend. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > > > >> Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a >> lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll >> pass it along. >> >> Cheers, glen. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 7 20:52:21 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:52:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need B&D ValveMaster manual References: <48918733.6080409@iamnota.org> <489AB2BE.5080508@iamnota.org><000b01c8f8da$9fba3a00$0200a8c0@PETER> <489B8AA4.2060405@iamnota.org> Message-ID: <002201c8f90a$29484350$0200a8c0@PETER> I sent two emails to India, will see what happens. Do you have any duplicate 5/16" valve seat grinding guides?? I am missing that size and it fits smaller engines like Moffatt Virtue etc. Peter > I'd appreciate that Peter. I'll be in Maclean visiting the parents at > the end of the month, so if the scanned files (High res please!) are too > big for you to email, I'm sure I can con Dad into playing chauffeur. > > The Indian company which B&D outsourced the > manufacturing to in 1976 and then parted company with in 1993 is still > making them as the SDO 150 FE VALVE REFACER and SDO 162 ANGULAR > VIBROCENTRIC KIT. Unfortunately, neither they or their distributors have > replied to my emails. > > Thanks, glen. > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Hi Glen >> HOLD THE BOAT, I found the B&D stuff. >> I think TOM Martin from NZ sent me some of it, the other stuff came from >> B&D, but not sure if it was UK or USA. I have emailed them again. >> I will scan and create a PDF over the weekend. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> Ph: 61-266453455 >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >> >> >> >>> Thanks Reg and Peter, I'm happy with my find. I've been waiting on a >>> lead for a manual, but it hasn't come through yet. If I get a copy, I'll >>> pass it along. >>> >>> Cheers, glen. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From oldengin at verizon.net Fri Aug 8 06:33:06 2008 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:33:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping References: <5BB61B51645B41CDA11778E0AC6FEAAF@your9e74d7efa7> <1217268727.488e0bf7e91b3@webmail.city-net.com> <002e01c8f62f$b8b25590$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: <000d01c8f95b$4b2d0180$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Cris Englehart is setting aside our camping spot for us and it will be in the same area as always. Down Minnie Moline drive, across the river and turn left. My plans have altered some as I will now planning on getting there on Sat. Leroy From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Aug 9 15:29:30 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:29:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SWEET Bessemer Half-Breed on eBay Message-ID: <1218320970.489e1a4a92d6f@webmail.city-net.com> Check it out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=280253817726 ================================================================= Item name: 10 Hp. BESSEMER/C.M. FARRAR HALFBREED Current price: $4,200.50 End time: Aug-13-08 17:42:54 PDT See ya, Arnie From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 9 16:24:20 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] SWEET Bessemer Half-Breed on eBay In-Reply-To: <1218320970.489e1a4a92d6f@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <682927.47989.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lovely indeed!!!! I like it even better with the following comment. "PLEASE NOTE THAT I DO NOT ACCEPT PAY PAL. I DO ACCEPT CERTIFIED CHECKS, MONEY ORDERS AND PERSONAL CHECKS WITH A 10 DAY WAITING PERIOD. PLEASE DO NOT ASK BECAUSE I WILL NOT ACCEPT PAY PAL. SORRY FOR THE INCONVIENCE, BUT NO OTHER OPTION WAS PERMITTED" Alan in Michigan --- On Sat, 8/9/08, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: From: fero_ah at city-net.com Subject: [SEL] SWEET Bessemer Half-Breed on eBay To: "Stationary Engine List" , "Old_Engine" Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 6:29 PM Check it out... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=280253817726 ================================================================= Item name: 10 Hp. BESSEMER/C.M. FARRAR HALFBREED Current price: $4,200.50 End time: Aug-13-08 17:42:54 PDT See ya, Arnie _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Sat Aug 9 17:37:39 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:37:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <2238.165.206.180.35.1218108138.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER><017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> <2238.165.206.180.35.1218108138.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: the real truth http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=fPgV6-gnQaE Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz From MaytagTwin at aol.com Sat Aug 9 18:02:23 2008 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:02:23 EDT Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members Message-ID: _YouTube - "Who's making love in the middle of my Gangbang?"_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqopjTK_Ps&feature=user) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 10 11:16:01 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:16:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Anyone going to the Cabin Fever Expo Auction? Message-ID: <67A8BF944A394A78BE5DD834A92DAB2E@tommydk7hxjr4h> Is anyone out there going to the Cabin Fever Expo Auction on Aug. 15? If so, please contact me off list. My email address is: Lcjudge at scrtc.com Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From jnyost at yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 17:30:41 2008 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler Message-ID: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hay SEL, Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender?was selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what vender it was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know "why didn't I wait till the last minute." Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From reb1952 at bellsouth.net Sun Aug 10 17:52:16 2008 From: reb1952 at bellsouth.net (Dickie) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:52:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] [SPAM] Screen cooler References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801c8fb4c$80ad81c0$0302a8c0@Dads> John Wanat He has a ad on Harry's Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Yost" To: Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: [SPAM] [SEL] Screen cooler Hay SEL, Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender was selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what vender it was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know "why didn't I wait till the last minute." Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Aug 11 08:36:02 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:36:02 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at least) this weekend. The only identification is "Ideal Oil Engine". It is an open crank horizontal oil (as in paraffin/kerosene) engine with a magneto and spark plug (but these may be a later modification). Please have a look at it here: The engine does not belong to me but I would really appreciate any information on it. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 09:12:15 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:12:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > > I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at > least) > this weekend. Hi Jerry, I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but haven't come across anything yet. From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 09:49:23 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:49:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. Curt H > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >> >> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >> least) >> this weekend. > > > Hi Jerry, > I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would > surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm > currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but > haven't come across anything yet. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 10:20:34 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:20:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <4C054053-2229-4E25-8742-14582F7877FC@rustyiron.com> On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:49 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: > > I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base > reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. > Curt H Hi Curt, Just go here: http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007 As you can see, that engine ain't it. I'll put money on English origins, maybe even Scottish, but almost certainly from that part of the world. Rob From gjohnson at ndii.com Mon Aug 11 10:31:11 2008 From: gjohnson at ndii.com (Johnson, Greg) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:31:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC886901D6ED7A@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz> Hi Jerry, I think this engine is a Hardy and Padmore made in the UK. The date is probably not far off. I had an engine very much like this but with a straight spoke flywheel. Mine was hot tube and natural or town gas. The carburetor looks to be home made along with gas tank support. The valve mechanism with chain driven camshaft is identical to what mine had. The governor was a small inertia pick blade operating the gas valve (missing on this engine). My enigne had an overhung crankshaft so the base was very different. The engine is shown in "The A to Z of British Engines" book. Greg Johnson -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of curt at rustyiron.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:49 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. Curt H > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >> >> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >> least) >> this weekend. > > > Hi Jerry, > I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would > surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm > currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but > haven't come across anything yet. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 11:05:29 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <4C054053-2229-4E25-8742-14582F7877FC@rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <62207.168.215.206.73.1218473363.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <4C054053-2229-4E25-8742-14582F7877FC@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <62128.168.215.206.73.1218477929.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Yup, BIG difference! Curt > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:49 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: > >> >> I don't have my BYB with me here at work, but the shape of the base >> reminds me of pictures of Best engines I've seen. >> Curt H > > Hi Curt, > Just go here: http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007 As you > can see, that engine ain't it. I'll put money on English origins, > maybe even Scottish, but almost certainly from that part of the world. > > Rob > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Aug 11 16:08:46 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:08:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I'm definitely not an expert but I'd say the engine is a "cobble" of parts. The overhead cam with chain drive doesn't look like anything I'd expect to see on a pre turn of the century (the one before last!) engine. The chain looks too modern. Also, the mixer doesn't look right and the fuel tank and bracket and magneto bracket are kind of hammered on. I could be wrong and probably am. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:36 AM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine > > > Hi All, > I came across a rather unusual engine > (for South Africa at least) > this weekend. > > The only identification is "Ideal Oil > Engine". It is an open crank > horizontal oil (as in paraffin/kerosene) engine > with a magneto and spark > plug (but these may be a later modification). > > Please have a look at it here: > > > The engine does not belong to me but I > would really appreciate any > information on it. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Aug 11 15:35:40 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:35:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC886901D6ED7A@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz> References: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC886901D6ED7A@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz> Message-ID: <54123E40-79C0-4041-9B8D-679AD7441CC3@rustyiron.com> On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Johnson, Greg wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > I think this engine is a Hardy and Padmore made in the UK. The date > is probably not far off. I had an engine very much like this but > with a straight spoke flywheel. Mine was hot tube and natural or > town gas. The carburetor looks to be home made along with gas tank > support. The valve mechanism with chain driven camshaft is > identical to what mine had. The governor was a small inertia pick > blade operating the gas valve (missing on this engine). My enigne > had an overhung crankshaft so the base was very different. The > engine is shown in "The A to Z of British Engines" book. > > Greg Johnson Hey Greg, There are several pictures of H&P engines in the Big Green Book. None are none exactly like Jerry's engine, but four different engines are instantly recognizable as having similar characteristics. Knight writes that "Engine production began around the 1892 period with a two- stroke engine built under the J. Southall patent (J. Southall had also been experimenting with a form of four-cycle engine from around 1885)." He goes on to write that the engines were known as "Ideal." From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Mon Aug 11 16:12:41 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:12:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <005701c8fc07$c27c5d40$742d0556@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >> >> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >> least) >> this weekend. > > > Hi Jerry, > I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would > surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm > currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but > haven't come across anything yet. Hi Jerry, Not quite the same engine but probably the same manufacturer. See http://www.stationaryengine.org/barleylands_2005.htm Near the bottom of the page. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From old_iron at msn.com Mon Aug 11 18:47:55 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:47:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Camping In-Reply-To: <000d01c8f95b$4b2d0180$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> References: <5BB61B51645B41CDA11778E0AC6FEAAF@your9e74d7efa7> <1217268727.488e0bf7e91b3@webmail.city-net.com> <002e01c8f62f$b8b25590$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> <000d01c8f95b$4b2d0180$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: I have to work on Monday - payroll for 1,000 won't wait. (Yes we will be stopping at home between Baraboo and Portland). We should be there sometime on Tuesday. XOXOXOX Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:33:06 -0400> From: oldengin at verizon.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Camping> > Cris Englehart is setting aside our camping spot for us and it will be in > the same area as always. Down Minnie Moline drive, across the river and turn > left. My plans have altered some as I will now planning on getting there on > Sat. Leroy > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From old_iron at msn.com Mon Aug 11 19:00:02 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:00:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members In-Reply-To: <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> References: <005201c8f6f5$0d041190$0200a8c0@PETER> <017a01c8f861$774584e0$65d08ea0$@net.au> Message-ID: The problem is they took the picture of our current house before we moved in with the John Deere and 47 engines! 2454 Forest Avenue Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 Have a great day, Peg Pfeiffer> From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:44:39 +1000> Subject: Re: [SEL] Google Street View for List members> > Peter> Just got back from 2 weeks in South Aust. I believe that google has> contracted to have a car drive around and actually take pictures. I saw one> driving around Adelaide with a contraption about 3-4 feet above the car> fixed to a pole. Google logo was on the side of the car, which was gold. > Took no notice until my son in law showed me street view last night. From> info that he had they are only filming Oz and US> > Steve> > Steve and Denise Kitto> 95 Coleyville Road> Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 > Ph 07 54671541> > As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. > Proverbs 27:19> -----Original Message-----> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe> Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:16> To: Oldengine.org; ATIS> Subject: [SEL] Google Street View for List members> > Hi all> > Has anyone had a look at Google Street View yet, is that view via satellite > or what????> It is not bad, shows your house as full front view at street level.> Bring up the Google Home Page, click on Maps, type an address and click on > street view, if the house you are looking for is there when you click on the> > red marker and picture window should appear, you can then rotate the camera > 360 degrees.> The whole east coast of Oz is visible.> > Peter, Oz> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From toadhill at aeroinc.net Tue Aug 12 05:51:25 2008 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:51:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Available Message-ID: Folks, We will have a room with two beds available for Fri. and Sat. night of Portland. That's a mile from the grounds. Have to be home for my anniversary on Sat. Call my cell if you are interested. If no one is interested, I will turn the room back over to the Super 8 on Wed. the 20th. See you guys at Portland. Joe Maurer From toadhill at aeroinc.net Tue Aug 12 06:01:03 2008 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:01:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Room Available At Portland Message-ID: Sorry, My Cell Number is 815-541-9237. Joe From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Aug 12 07:44:39 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:44:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080811173026.00c180c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <005701c8fc07$c27c5d40$742d0556@intrepid> Message-ID: <001401c8fc89$f3f68e40$742d0556@intrepid> Hi Jerry, I have contacted the engines owner, Jenny Jeffries, and her engine is a Hardy Padmore. I told her of the ATIS list and she said she will subscribe. I will pass on contact details off list. she seems quite knowledgable for a lady. 8^) Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Skinner" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Unusual engine > > >> >> On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: >>> >>> I came across a rather unusual engine (for South Africa at >>> least) >>> this weekend. >> >> >> Hi Jerry, >> I think that's an unusual engine no matter where you are. It would >> surely be a prize if you could add it to your collection. I'm >> currently flipping through books, looking for something similar, but >> haven't come across anything yet. > > Hi Jerry, Not quite the same engine but probably the same manufacturer. > See http://www.stationaryengine.org/barleylands_2005.htm > Near the bottom of the page. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 5:50 AM > > > From oldironnut at alltel.net Tue Aug 12 07:45:09 2008 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41D43A00-3D28-4096-93F2-673CF6C94E0D@alltel.net> On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Joe&Jewel Maurer wrote: > Have to be home for my anniversary on Sat. Joe, What the hell does that have to do with anything????? Susan and I will arrive Wednesday in Portland on our 20th anniversary to share a room with our swamp rat Webre friends. What better way to celebrate than a romantic walk through the big engine area at night in the glow of the yellow dogs! See ya', Mike ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at alltel.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From bgrimley at bellsouth.net Tue Aug 12 08:44:28 2008 From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (bgrimley at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:44:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need hauling from Buckley, MI area to Bluffton, IN (just N of Portland) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <081220081544.28929.48A1AFDB0005B67E0000710122243322829B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Anyone going towards Portland from Buckley that might be agreeable to haul about a full pick up load, please contact me off-list. bgrimley at bellsouth.net cell 919-414-9190 Load is a 12 hp Economy tractor, implements and parts, currently at Alan Bowen's place at Williamsburg, MI.. Thanks for the post! Bill From pwaugh at embarqmail.com Tue Aug 12 08:54:24 2008 From: pwaugh at embarqmail.com (Paul Waugh) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:54:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need hauling from Buckley, MI area to Bluffton, IN (just N of Portland) References: <081220081544.28929.48A1AFDB0005B67E0000710122243322829B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Message-ID: <00dc01c8fc93$b19f5360$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Now that is a FULL pick up load, and I have a ton dually Paul - IN ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: [SEL] Need hauling from Buckley, MI area to Bluffton,IN (just N of Portland) > > Anyone going towards Portland from Buckley that might be agreeable to haul > about a full pick up load, please contact me off-list. > bgrimley at bellsouth.net cell 919-414-9190 > Load is a 12 hp Economy tractor, implements and parts, currently at Alan > Bowen's place at Williamsburg, MI.. Thanks for the post! > Bill > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 12 09:57:10 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:57:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: <41D43A00-3D28-4096-93F2-673CF6C94E0D@alltel.net> References: <41D43A00-3D28-4096-93F2-673CF6C94E0D@alltel.net> Message-ID: <62169.168.215.206.73.1218560230.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Joe, Just buy her another anniversary engine like you did two years ago. All will be matrimonial bliss and you can stay the entire time! Curt > > On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Joe&Jewel Maurer wrote: >> Have to be home for my anniversary on Sat. > > Joe, > > What the hell does that have to do with anything????? Susan and I > will arrive Wednesday in Portland on our 20th anniversary to share a > room with our swamp rat Webre friends. What better way to celebrate > than a romantic walk through the big engine area at night in the glow > of the yellow dogs! > > See ya', > Mike > > ______________________ > Michael Tucker > oldironnut at alltel.net > Versailles, Kentucky, USA > ______________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:31:26 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:31:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond Message-ID: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi Guys, The time has come for the trip, I leave here at sparrow fart tomorrow and land at O'Hare about 2pm.So I'll see you at Baraboo sometime on thursday. See you latter, Craig From rotigel at alltel.net Tue Aug 12 13:07:12 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:07:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Room Available At Portland In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe, Why on earth would you be sorry that your cell phone number is 815-541-9237. It looks like a fine number to me! Dave On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Joe&Jewel Maurer wrote: > Sorry, > > My Cell Number is 815-541-9237. > > Joe From gastzt at aol.com Tue Aug 12 13:05:42 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:05:42 EDT Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond Message-ID: Sparrow fart? gosh! **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 12 18:48:52 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:48:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage ignition Message-ID: <20080813014855.24B8B40543D@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi All of the "Field" engines that I've seen have a front mounted ignitor and/or a Webster mag mounted on the front of the cylinder. My new acqusition has a different type of of ignition. This is a professional modification with a timer on the end of the shaft and a pipe thread spark plug .All of the ignitor system is gone .The end of the shaft has been completely modified and re machined to accept a timer on the end. The Pot metal timer has been destroyed except for the advance/retard lever and a short mounting collar Has any one seen a similar engine in their travels or maybe own one?. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can send pictures if it would help. Thanks, Jimmy Jim O'Hagan From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Aug 12 20:29:00 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:29:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage ignition References: <20080813014855.24B8B40543D@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <6A54155A855049199CDC25679959BD70@tommydk7hxjr4h> Jimmy, My 8 HP Field had a retro fitted ignition system. The end of the sideshaft had a timer mounted on it but I'm not sure if it was the same system as what you describe or not. The 15 HP I had also had some sort of conversion but that's been so long ago I don't remember what it was. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage ignition > Hi All of the "Field" engines that I've seen have a front mounted ignitor > and/or a Webster mag mounted on the front of the cylinder. My new > acqusition > has a different type of of ignition. This is a professional modification > with a timer on the end of the shaft and a pipe thread spark plug .All of > the ignitor system is gone .The end of the shaft has been completely > modified and re machined to accept a timer on the end. The Pot metal timer > has been destroyed except for the advance/retard lever and a short > mounting > collar Has any one seen a similar engine in their travels or maybe own > one?. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can send pictures if it would > help. > Thanks, Jimmy > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1608 - Release Date: 8/12/2008 > 4:59 PM > > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Tue Aug 12 21:48:23 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:48:23 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Take a tank with you and buy the cooler at Portland. The viewers generally like to see engine people actually doing something! Paul > Hay SEL, > > Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender?was > selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what vender it > was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know "why > didn't I wait till the last minute." > > Jim and Janna Yost > Utica, Ohio > USA > jnyost at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 12 22:16:32 2008 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:16:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage Timing Message-ID: <20080813051633.C5D3A444828@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Tommy ,thanks for the information. At least I'm beginning to think mine may not be a one off engineering exercise that was destroyed. Do you remember where the engines went to? Jimmy Jim O'Hagan From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 01:45:42 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:45:42 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> References: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/08/2008, craig morrison wrote: > Hi Guys, > > The time has come for the trip, I leave here at sparrow fart > tomorrow and land at O'Hare about 2pm.So I'll see you at Baraboo sometime on > thursday. > > See you latter, Craig We fly out of Heathrow tomorrow at 08.40, arrive Detroit at 12.35pm. We'll be driving northwest to Buckley MI, then back down to Portland the following week. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Aug 13 04:24:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the ladies walk buy is not doing anything? Dave On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:48 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Take a tank with you and buy the cooler at Portland. The viewers > generally > like to see engine people actually doing something! > > Paul > >> Hay SEL, >> >> Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender was >> selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what >> vender it >> was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know >> "why >> didn't I wait till the last minute." >> >> Jim and Janna Yost >> Utica, Ohio >> USA >> jnyost at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tsmith at hal-pc.org Wed Aug 13 04:25:07 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:25:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Message-ID: Anybody likely to be selling Bessemer repro Gaso Kero tags this year?? Thanks, Tom On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:24:28 -0400 David Rotigel wrote: > Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the > > ladies walk buy is not doing anything? > Dave > > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:48 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Take a tank with you and buy the cooler at Portland. The viewers >> generally >> like to see engine people actually doing something! >> >> Paul >> >>> Hay SEL, >>> >>> Does anyone know where I can purchase a sreen cooler? Some vender >>>was >>> selling them at Portland last year but I do not remember what >>> vender it >>> was. I want to put one on my Reid before I head to Portland. I know >>> >>> "why >>> didn't I wait till the last minute." >>> >>> Jim and Janna Yost >>> Utica, Ohio >>> USA >>> jnyost at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gastzt at aol.com Wed Aug 13 04:26:01 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:26:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler Message-ID: Hey Dave JUST LOVE that one! Sounds like the way I like to work on an engine--(just make sure it is running 1st) ha! Stan Zettner 8hp Stover Pleasanton, Tx can't make Portland this year---wife just had back surgery! Maybe next time! Sure want to meet some of you guys! FUN stuff! thanks, SZ **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed Aug 13 04:52:58 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:52:58 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, your axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! Paul > Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the > ladies walk buy is not doing anything? > Dave From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Aug 13 05:29:06 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:29:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and "buy!" Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, > your > axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! > > Paul > >> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the >> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? >> Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Aug 13 05:31:15 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:31:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com><2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au><55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net><1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <002b01c8fd40$7a7b14c0$0200a8c0@PETER> Or By, Buy & Bye Peter > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, >> your >> axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! >> >> Paul >> >>> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the >>> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? >>> Dave >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 13 05:45:35 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:45:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Repro Bessemer Tag In-Reply-To: References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> Tom, I'd contact Jerry Evans. He does beautiful work at a very reasonable price. All he would need is a good clean photo of an original tag (with dimensions) and that should be easy to get from one of the list members. Here's some examples to check out... http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm See ya, Arnie Quoting Tom Smith : > Anybody likely to be selling Bessemer repro Gaso Kero tags this year?? From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 06:45:26 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:45:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Excess Baggage Message-ID: <6f6025160808130645g271f247ep44c4840a57390b28@mail.gmail.com> I hope you guys are all goin' to be bidding well at the Charity Auction next week, we have a stack of chrome-vanadium steel stuff in our baggage for the auction and don't want to bring it back again! There is also a very nice Aynsley China item that Rita is bringing over for the ladies to bid on. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Aug 13 04:52:58 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:52:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage Timing In-Reply-To: <20080813051633.C5D3A444828@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <000601c8fd3b$217fa390$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Jim, I still have the 8 HP and a 3 1/2 HP at my home. The 15 went to IL, then to MN and the last I knew it was still out west somewhere. I got it out of TX in the early 80's. Not sure who the owner is now though as some of these old hunks of iron get "shipping fever" from traveling so much from collector to collector. My 8 HP had some linkage on it that would allow the timer to be advanced and retarded. I don't know that it was a factory set up but was a neat conversion done by an "engineer" of old. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:17 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] Field Brundage Timing Tommy ,thanks for the information. At least I'm beginning to think mine may not be a one off engineering exercise that was destroyed. Do you remember where the engines went to? Jimmy Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Wed Aug 13 07:33:54 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:33:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <2273A5A7-181D-4B95-B09B-9DB3E9DF9C91@rustyiron.com> On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:29 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave Dave, if some nice young man dressed in colorful, tight fitting clothes asks if you'd like to learn about "bi" run away as fast as you can. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Aug 13 07:58:03 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:58:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <2273A5A7-181D-4B95-B09B-9DB3E9DF9C91@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <000501c8fd54$fccd6ae0$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> And Rob you could probably add the old tag line for Dave "No purchase necessary". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave Dave, if some nice young man dressed in colorful, tight fitting clothes asks if you'd like to learn about "bi" run away as fast as you can. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 13 08:14:10 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:14:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler (OT) In-Reply-To: <1218639586.48a2f6e2ef5f3@webmail.city-net.com> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> <2273A5A7-181D-4B95-B09B-9DB3E9DF9C91@rustyiron.com> <1218639586.48a2f6e2ef5f3@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <1218640450.48a2fa42c3b51@webmail.city-net.com> Ahhhh, yes. Reminds me of that great old song "Do they hang too low?" with the CLASSIC chorus ... Any old storm, any old port Life is long, love is short Better get a woman, get a woman if you can If you can't get a woman, get a clean old man. http://www.drinkingsongs.net/mp3s/1950s/1958ca-bawdy-songs-vol-8-sing-along-bawdy-songs-(LP)/01-do-they-hang-too-low.htm 8-))) See ya, Arnie > Quoting Rob Skinner : > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:29 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > > > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > > > "buy!" > > > Dave > > > > Dave, if some nice young man dressed in colorful, tight fitting clothes > > asks if you'd like to learn about "bi" run away as fast as you can. From tsmith at hal-pc.org Wed Aug 13 08:26:58 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:26:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Repro Bessemer Tag In-Reply-To: <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Hi Arnie, Thanks for the email. That's my problem, I haven't been able to get a good clean photo. I've contacted Jerry but he needs a better picture than what I can provide for my 8hp vertical. I would love to go to Portland myself and poke around a bit but spent my engine travel funds going to the Cat show in Woodland, CA earlier this year. Tom On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:45:35 -0400 fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Tom, > > I'd contact Jerry Evans. > > He does beautiful work at a very reasonable price. All he would >need is a good > clean photo of an original tag (with dimensions) and that should be >easy to get > from one of the list members. > > Here's some examples to check out... > http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm > > See ya, Arnie > > Quoting Tom Smith : > >> Anybody likely to be selling Bessemer repro Gaso Kero tags this >>year?? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 13 08:47:26 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:47:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Repro Bessemer Tag In-Reply-To: References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1218631535.48a2d76fe766f@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <1218642446.48a3020eb754d@webmail.city-net.com> Tom, I could take a pic of the tag on my 2 hp, but it's a rebadge that includes the name of some machinery company in addition to the Bessemer stuff. I also don't know if the tag size on the 8 hp might be larger. I'll try to keep my eyes open at Baraboo / Portland for you. If I see anything suitable, I'll take a pic. See ya, Arnie Quoting Tom Smith : > Thanks for the email. That's my problem, I haven't been able to get a > good clean photo. I've contacted Jerry but he needs a better picture > than what I can provide for my 8hp vertical. From old_iron at msn.com Wed Aug 13 09:01:17 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:01:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We are on the road to Baraboo (aren't air cards lovely). The Garmin says we should arrive at 1:09 this afternoon. Looking forward to see you all soon. Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:45:42 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] trip accross the pond> > On 12/08/2008, craig morrison wrote:> > Hi Guys,> >> > The time has come for the trip, I leave here at sparrow fart> > tomorrow and land at O'Hare about 2pm.So I'll see you at Baraboo sometime on> > thursday.> >> > See you latter, Craig> > We fly out of Heathrow tomorrow at 08.40, arrive Detroit at 12.35pm.> We'll be driving northwest to Buckley MI, then back down to Portland> the following week.> > Peter> -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From toadhill at aeroinc.net Wed Aug 13 11:49:11 2008 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:49:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Super 8 Room Taken Message-ID: <9199769B7DEA47B9B7D9437B7387FE65@joe5599c86d812> The extra room at Portland has been taken. Joe From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed Aug 13 23:48:56 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (pjp at steamengine.com.au) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:48:56 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> References: <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1693.218.214.134.238.1218696536.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Well, you could be trying to buy them. Engine shows attract all sorts of professions ;) > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > "buy!" > Dave > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, >> your >> axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! >> >> Paul >> >>> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the >>> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? >>> Dave >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Aug 14 05:43:47 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:43:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Unusual engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080814134248.02ecad80@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, Thanks for all the replies to my original post on this subject. I'm not going to name you all but thanks anyway. Greg Johnson, Dave Croft, Patrick Livingstone (who sent pics) and Rob Skinner seem to have identified it correctly as a Hardy and Padmore. The Brass plate on it is identical to one on a pic from Patrick. I have not yet been able to find an exact match - all those I've seen are smaller than this so am still on the lookout. As mentioned on the webpage, it is NOT my engine but it is "For Sale" but I don't think I'm ready to mortgage my house to buy an engine even if I'd love to have this one. It's part of an estate and the current owners are hoping to sell the entire collection to one buyer (although this may be negotiable). There are only 3 engines in the collection, this one, an open crank Fairbanks Morse Type C and a Lister D. The rest consists of tractors, farm machinery, a Ford Model A Sportster (1928) and a small museum full of other (mostly agricultural) stuff. Everything is beautifully restored. I'll be putting it all on a webpage in the next few days and will keep you guys posted. Thanks to all for their input. I've updated the webpage here: From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Aug 14 08:05:04 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:05:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Screen cooler In-Reply-To: <1693.218.214.134.238.1218696536.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts .org.au> References: <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> <546212.11236.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2453.218.214.134.238.1218602903.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <55C09598-AE5F-4317-9C1C-92E47085BDA0@alltel.net> <1664.218.214.134.238.1218628378.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <781CBCE4-9E71-4958-92DE-63848C3C6A50@alltel.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080814110224.03c8d818@ncweb.com> The correct term in this case is "rent". In the long term, renting is probably cheaper than buying, and less stressful, unless you've already bought one, like Eliot Spitzer. Dave Merchant At 02:48 AM 8/14/2008, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: >Well, you could be trying to buy them. Engine shows attract all sorts of >professions ;) > > > Yes, And tomorrow I'm going to learn the difference between "by" and > > "buy!" > > Dave > > > > > > -------- > > David Rotigel > > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:52 AM, pjp at steamengine.com.au wrote: > > > >> we all know you do things Dave! You have your button start engine, > >> your > >> axe handle not to mention the frequent arm lift exercises! > >> > >> Paul > >> > >>> Paul, Are you trying to say that sitting on my ass and watching the > >>> ladies walk buy is not doing anything? > >>> Dave > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 04:03:12 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:03:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] trip accross the pond In-Reply-To: References: <000601c8fcb2$03a803a0$f7576d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> <6f6025160808130145p17d2a428v78ccc86152951b4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808150403i6e71abf2p72092ba1e4f824d2@mail.gmail.com> On 13/08/2008, William J Pfeiffer Sr wrote: > > We are on the road to Baraboo (aren't air cards lovely). > > The Garmin says we should arrive at 1:09 this afternoon. > > Looking forward to see you all soon. Arrived at Detroit an hour earlier than scheduled, maybe Northwest wanted to make up for the disaster that was our first Portland flight in 2003 :-)) Drove up to Cadillac MI, had a decent might's sleep, will be on the road to Buckley later this morning. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From pstanley at twcny.rr.com Fri Aug 15 07:21:15 2008 From: pstanley at twcny.rr.com (pstanley at twcny.rr.com) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:21:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <18534747.1973131218810075866.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z02> Please unsubscribe me. From lark2263 at phonet.com Fri Aug 15 09:42:35 2008 From: lark2263 at phonet.com (KarlUSA) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:42:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <000a01c8fef5$ebab3dd0$0300a8c0@Karl> Please unsubscribe me. Karl USA From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 15 13:09:18 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:09:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland In-Reply-To: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> References: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> Anyone going from the Lancaster PA area to Portland? I purchased an engine at the auction in Gordonville and thought if someone was coming to Portland that could transport it, it would help them pay their way and save me some $$$ also. The engine is a 3 HP and would easily fit in the back of a pickup (even a small one) If available, give me a call, 270-765-9540. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Aug 15 14:30:19 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:30:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland In-Reply-To: <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> References: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080815172827.0312bdd0@pop3.wcoil.com> Lordy Tommy, If I had known just three days ago! I was in the area. Just got back yesterday. Mark At 04:09 PM 8/15/08, you wrote: >Anyone going from the Lancaster PA area to Portland? I purchased an >engine at the auction in Gordonville and thought if someone was coming >to Portland that could transport it, it would help them pay their way >and save me some $$$ also. The engine is a 3 HP and would easily fit in >the back of a pickup (even a small one) If available, give me a call, >270-765-9540. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Aug 15 15:43:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:43:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <18534747.1973131218810075866.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z0 2> References: <18534747.1973131218810075866.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web20-z02> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080816084304.0204ac48@ncable.com.au> I see there are a couple of your mates here Dave waiting for you to give them some informative information! Russell At 12:21 AM 16/08/2008, you wrote: >Please unsubscribe me. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 15 15:52:04 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:52:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland References: <380-22008721132713921@coastalnet.com> <48A5E26E.1080301@scrtc.com> <6.2.1.2.1.20080815172827.0312bdd0@pop3.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <813BF2B6F4ED4FE28A7AB79B2C04F22E@tommydk7hxjr4h> Thanks Mark. The auction was today and I purchased the engine about noon. I bought it over the phone (never done that before) but I know the engine well. By chance, I happened on Wednesday to drive by the building where the engine sat for over 70 years, from the time it was new until it was purchased by a collector in the early 70's. One of those things I just "had" to have...... aren't they all! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Lancaster PA area to Portland > Lordy Tommy, If I had known just three days ago! I was in the area. Just > got back yesterday. Mark > > At 04:09 PM 8/15/08, you wrote: >>Anyone going from the Lancaster PA area to Portland? I purchased an >>engine at the auction in Gordonville and thought if someone was coming >>to Portland that could transport it, it would help them pay their way >>and save me some $$$ also. The engine is a 3 HP and would easily fit in >>the back of a pickup (even a small one) If available, give me a call, >>270-765-9540. >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com > > Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. > Parts lists available on request. > > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 > No Sunday calls if possible. > I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I > represent > them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1612 - Release Date: 8/14/2008 > 6:03 PM > > > From pwaugh at embarqmail.com Fri Aug 15 18:35:02 2008 From: pwaugh at embarqmail.com (Paul Waugh) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:35:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] my portland Message-ID: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. I have had fun getting my engines around and better located on a trailer. As you can see I am at the low end of the spectrum, nothing valuable, nothing exotic, but I love to here them run, and appreciate where this country might be with out them, even Maytag has a place in history. So today I had my own Portland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cSMCwC3ho Paul - IN From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 15 20:20:32 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:20:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> The weather looks perfect for Portland. Earlier in the week the forecast was for 50 and 60 percent chances of rain. Its now 10%, highs in the mid 80's and partly cloudy. I'll be there on Wed. morning and hope to set up in the same spot on the blacktop. See everyone soon! BTW Dave R., I'll be bringing about 100 lbs or more of Babbitt for you to give to Rick and the Tod Engine project. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Sat Aug 16 05:57:04 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:57:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <013301c8ff9f$94dfff90$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Thanks Tommy. Dave, when you come to Youngstown you'll see something you haven't seen in 12 years! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:20 PM Subject: [SEL] Portland > The weather looks perfect for Portland. Earlier in the week the forecast > was for 50 and 60 percent chances of rain. Its now 10%, highs in the mid > 80's and partly cloudy. > > I'll be there on Wed. morning and hope to set up in the same spot on the > blacktop. See everyone soon! > > BTW Dave R., I'll be bringing about 100 lbs or more of Babbitt for you to > give to Rick and the Tod Engine project. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Aug 16 10:53:43 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:53:43 +0200 Subject: [SEL] my portland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080816194104.00c1f7b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> >Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:35:02 -0400 >From: "Paul Waugh" >Subject: [SEL] my portland >To: "SEL" >Message-ID: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0 at PaulNew> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > >I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for >fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof >of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. I have had fun >getting my engines around and better located on a trailer. As you can see >I am at the low end of the spectrum, nothing valuable, nothing exotic, but >I love to here them run, and appreciate where this country might be with >out them, even Maytag has a place in history. > >So today I had my own Portland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cSMCwC3ho > >Paul - IN Hi Paul, Great stuff! Maybe a worldwide crank up on one of the "Portland days" would be in order for all of us who cannot be there. Our club show is the first weekend of September - this was the same time as Portland about 2 years ago but now Portland is a bit earlier. Maybe I'll also start a few of the old guys (and gals) just to celebrate "Portland" next week! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From old_iron at msn.com Sat Aug 16 11:27:51 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:27:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: Dave says to let you know you have your "usual" spot at Portland. Thanks for the Babbit and he will make sure it gets delivered safely now that he has new tires on his trailer. xoxoxo Peg Pfeiffer > From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:20:32 -0400> Subject: [SEL] Portland> > The weather looks perfect for Portland. Earlier in the week the forecast was for 50 and 60 percent chances of rain. Its now 10%, highs in the mid 80's and partly cloudy.> > I'll be there on Wed. morning and hope to set up in the same spot on the blacktop. See everyone soon!> > BTW Dave R., I'll be bringing about 100 lbs or more of Babbitt for you to give to Rick and the Tod Engine project.> > Tommy Turner> Magnolia, KY> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 16 20:58:03 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:58:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <1A76070970BF4B40B5CF1D6885AF25D9@tommydk7hxjr4h> Thanks Peg! We'll see everyone in a few days. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Pfeiffer Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland > > Dave says to let you know you have your "usual" spot at Portland. Thanks > for the Babbit and he will make sure it gets delivered safely now that he > has new tires on his trailer. > > xoxoxo > Peg Pfeiffer > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 17 04:25:55 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:25:55 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <1A76070970BF4B40B5CF1D6885AF25D9@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <724050F3DE834B14B9166FFA43E80234@tommydk7hxjr4h> <1A76070970BF4B40B5CF1D6885AF25D9@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <6f6025160808170425r5cef454dl444278aa8ad75c41@mail.gmail.com> On 17/08/2008, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Thanks Peg! We'll see everyone in a few days. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY We have just had two good days at Buckley MI show, we drive down south today to Mishawaka then Lafayette. Will be at Portland Wed/Thuir/Friday. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jbcast at charter.net Sun Aug 17 13:46:53 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:46:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] my portland In-Reply-To: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Message-ID: <20080817164653.O1M2H.18072.root@mp20> > I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. I have had fun getting my engines around and better located on a trailer. As you can see I am at the low end of the spectrum, nothing valuable, nothing exotic, but I love to here them run, and appreciate where this country might be with out them, even Maytag has a place in history. > > So today I had my own Portland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cSMCwC3ho > > Paul - IN Paul, we plan to leave for Portland early Tuesday morning, sorry you can't make it, but your show looks nice. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From old_iron at msn.com Sun Aug 17 14:47:28 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:47:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland/Baraboo Message-ID: It only took us 3 hours to get home today from Baraboo, had a great dinner with Craig Morrison, Reg Ingold and 20 other assorted SEL friends yesterday evening. We could not have had better weather at Baraboo. Glad to see they have lowered the possibility of precipitation at Portland, now they just need to lower the temperature as well by a few degrees. I have to work tomorrow, so we will leave for Portland Tuesday morning. See you all soon, Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:25:55 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland> > On 17/08/2008, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:> > Thanks Peg! We'll see everyone in a few days.> >> > Tommy Turner> > Magnolia, KY> > We have just had two good days at Buckley MI show, we drive down> south today to Mishawaka then Lafayette.> > Will be at Portland Wed/Thuir/Friday.> > Peter> -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Aug 18 12:57:58 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:57:58 GMT Subject: [SEL] Portland here we come Message-ID: <20080818.125758.21306.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. WE just crossed over from Canada at Detroit. After two days in D.C., two days in New York, and two days at Niagara Falls we are anxious to see a lot of engine friends Wednesday and Thursday. Ron Haskell ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m2XhjurU2d1NOEmp94Ltp3oPI1XEq2wON07gXSlqxSXStQh/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 05:50:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:50:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good for the week. We are off out to have a look round the local antique malls and bookshops today, serious engine stuff starts tomorrow! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 20:09:12 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet Message-ID: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 19 20:24:04 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:24:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work ;-)))))))))) Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia Ph: 61-266453455 http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? > > Jay M Bernard > Thibodaux, LA > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Tue Aug 19 20:58:50 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:58:50 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the FMZ, I would. :-) Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Peter Lowe wrote: > Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work > ;-)))))))))) > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > > > > >> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >> >> Jay M Bernard >> Thibodaux, LA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Tue Aug 19 21:27:37 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:27:37 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> What hp? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Harris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the > FMZ, I would. :-) > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >> ;-)))))))))) >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> Ph: 61-266453455 >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >> >> >> >> >>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>> >>> Jay M Bernard >>> Thibodaux, LA >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 21:30:38 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <42524.53275.qm@web55913.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Yeah, I need to re-machine some parts on my Stover's Mixer and fix the jerry-rigged timer. then it'll be running for the first time in 3 years! Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Al Harris wrote: From: Al Harris Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 10:58 PM If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the FMZ, I would. :-) Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Peter Lowe wrote: > Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work > ;-)))))))))) > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm > > > > >> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >> >> Jay M Bernard >> Thibodaux, LA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 21:34:24 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Stover KA wth ignitor? Message-ID: <394979.71697.qm@web55914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I've got a Stover KA 11/2 hp that i believe is a 1921 model. When i got the engine, there was a spark plug plate in the original what i believe to have been ignitor hole. Every example of this engine i've seen has an EK mag, and a rating of 2hp.? Now, if mine originally came with an EK, why go through the trouble of making a spark plug plate? The original Trip on the pushrod is also missing.?? Anyone else out there seen a 11/2 HP KA with an ignitor? Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA From jopeter at omninet.net.au Tue Aug 19 21:48:58 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:48:58 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: Hey Chester ...have you got room in your shed for some engines ?The time has come for me to get rid of some ,they owe me nothing so they are a gift . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Smith" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > What hp? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > >> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >> FMZ, I would. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>> ;-)))))))))) >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>> >>>> Jay M Bernard >>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Aug 19 21:54:03 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:54:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> You now have 5 days while they are all at Portland to make those parts by hand Al. ;-))) When Glen comes up we must get together or meet up at Rusty Iron. Peter. > If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the > FMZ, I would. :-) > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >> ;-)))))))))) >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> Ph: 61-266453455 >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >> >> >> >> >>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>> >>> Jay M Bernard >>> Thibodaux, LA >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Tue Aug 19 22:50:14 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:50:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <48ABB096.4040409@rustic-engines.com> We *can't* do both? :-\ Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Peter Lowe wrote: > You now have 5 days while they are all at Portland to make those parts by > hand Al. ;-))) > When Glen comes up we must get together or meet up at Rusty Iron. > > Peter. > > > > > >> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >> FMZ, I would. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >> >>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>> ;-)))))))))) >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>> >>>> Jay M Bernard >>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Tue Aug 19 23:14:54 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:14:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <48ABB65E.1090305@rustic-engines.com> Hi Chester (I've been napping). :-) It's a 1.5hp Throttle governed (1923). > http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/fmz/fmz01.jpg I require a 48diag tooth cam gear, push rod and the throttle governing gear (although it is not required to get the engine running). I have adapted a 3hp mixer to the head and have a Lucas AB33 already mounted on the side-plate. Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Chester Smith wrote: > What hp? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > > >> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >> FMZ, I would. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >> >>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>> ;-)))))))))) >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>> >>>> Jay M Bernard >>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Tue Aug 19 23:22:44 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:22:44 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <00b201c9028d$2894bb50$210110ac@Chester> Hi Peter, i always have room for engines, what do you have?, Katmach is sept 13th, i will probaly not be showing as Jordan will be in hospital in Perth, but will hopefully be there on Sat to look around, should be heaps of tractors & cars, not to many engine guys, wayne with his chainsaws, ken mcileroy from collie, brian from busselton are the only confirmations at this stage, should be some others, i should be at Albany, probally bring my 2 fairbanks morse eclipses, cheers, Chester. From: "peter ogborne" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Hey Chester ...have you got room in your shed for some engines ?The time > has > come for me to get rid of some ,they owe me nothing so they are a gift . From jopeter at omninet.net.au Wed Aug 20 00:05:27 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:27 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> <00b201c9028d$2894bb50$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <4F93BA9207C54AC78A07F4473279646A@your9e74d7efa7> Chester ...Ok ,there is a West Ho marine engine ,A Chapman Super pup ,A Blaxland Rae and a Hornet ,all inboard marine engines ,ready to go.Three out boards ,a Tornado ,a Clinton and another the name i have forgotten for the momentThere is that Otis elevator governor from the original Goldsbrough Mort build in St Geo Tce Perth.There is a Douglas Air cooled engine and a Sundial B . As you can see I am having a clean out .I may keep one of the above to swap with some one in town here for a Lister air cooled diesel . I am sure there are one or two others that I have forgotten. Any that you dont want I will offer to TOMC. I am just keeping the little Stuart Turner and the big engine that I am still working on ....I am going to just look at small engines from now on. Yes I will be at Kat Mach. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Smith" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Hi Peter, i always have room for engines, what do you have?, > Katmach is sept 13th, i will probaly not be showing as Jordan will be in > hospital in Perth, but will hopefully be there on Sat to look around, > should > be heaps of tractors & cars, not to many engine guys, wayne with his > chainsaws, ken mcileroy from collie, brian from busselton are the only > confirmations at this stage, should be some others, i should be at Albany, > probally bring my 2 fairbanks morse eclipses, cheers, Chester. > > > > From: "peter ogborne" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > >> Hey Chester ...have you got room in your shed for some engines ?The time >> has >> come for me to get rid of some ,they owe me nothing so they are a gift . > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Wed Aug 20 00:43:55 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:43:55 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER><48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester><00b201c9028d$2894bb50$210110ac@Chester> <4F93BA9207C54AC78A07F4473279646A@your9e74d7efa7> Message-ID: <00c601c90298$81c44d20$210110ac@Chester> Peter, i am interested, i will catch up with you shortly, i have a air cooled lister diesel that you can have if needed, it is a parts only engine and is currently in serpentine but can get it down if you want it. (dont know what model). cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter ogborne" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Chester ...Ok ,there is a West Ho marine engine ,A Chapman Super pup ,A > Blaxland Rae and a Hornet ,all inboard marine engines ,ready to go.Three > out > boards ,a Tornado ,a Clinton and another the name i have forgotten for the > momentThere is that Otis elevator governor from the original Goldsbrough > Mort build in St Geo Tce Perth.There is a Douglas Air cooled engine and a > Sundial B . > As you can see I am having a clean out .I may keep one of the above to > swap > with some one in town here for a Lister air cooled diesel . > I am sure there are one or two others that I have forgotten. > Any that you dont want I will offer to TOMC. > I am just keeping the little Stuart Turner and the big engine that I am > still working on ....I am going to just look at small engines from now on. > Yes I will be at Kat Mach. From edwards_service at westnet.com.au Wed Aug 20 02:04:33 2008 From: edwards_service at westnet.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:04:33 +0800 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> <48ABB65E.1090305@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <00d801c902a3$c39ad9c0$210110ac@Chester> ok i have a excess of 3hp parts thought i may of been able to help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Harris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > Hi Chester (I've been napping). :-) > > It's a 1.5hp Throttle governed (1923). > >> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/fmz/fmz01.jpg > I require a 48diag tooth cam gear, push rod and the throttle governing > gear (although it is not required to get the engine running). > > I have adapted a 3hp mixer to the head and have a Lucas AB33 already > mounted on the side-plate. > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Chester Smith wrote: >> What hp? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Al Harris" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet >> >> >> >>> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >>> FMZ, I would. :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Al Harris >>> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >>> >>> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>>> ;-)))))))))) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>>> >>>>> Jay M Bernard >>>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Aug 20 02:26:07 2008 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <00d801c902a3$c39ad9c0$210110ac@Chester> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><007e01c9027d$140d18e0$210110ac@Chester> <48ABB65E.1090305@rustic-engines.com> <00d801c902a3$c39ad9c0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <48ABE32F.70300@rustic-engines.com> Thanks mate, maybe these posts will stir something up somewhere. Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Chester Smith wrote: > ok i have a excess of 3hp parts thought i may of been able to help. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet > > > >> Hi Chester (I've been napping). :-) >> >> It's a 1.5hp Throttle governed (1923). >> >> >>> http://www.rustic-engines.com/media/pics/fmz/fmz01.jpg >>> >> I require a 48diag tooth cam gear, push rod and the throttle governing >> gear (although it is not required to get the engine running). >> >> I have adapted a 3hp mixer to the head and have a Lucas AB33 already >> mounted on the side-plate. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> Chester Smith wrote: >> >>> What hp? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Al Harris" >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >>>> FMZ, I would. :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Al Harris >>>> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >>>> >>>> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>>>> ;-)))))))))) >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Peter Lowe >>>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>>> Australia >>>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jay M Bernard >>>>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>>> > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Aug 20 03:44:38 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:44:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com><002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com><005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48ABB096.4040409@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <008201c902b1$befc1bf0$0200a8c0@PETER> Yeah, if you wanna. Peter > We *can't* do both? :-\ > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> You now have 5 days while they are all at Portland to make those parts by >> hand Al. ;-))) >> When Glen comes up we must get together or meet up at Rusty Iron. >> >> Peter. >> >> >> >> >> >>> If I could locate a cam gear, the rods and the governor bits for the >>> FMZ, I would. :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Al Harris >>> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >>> >>> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, so now it is time to go to your shop and do some engine work >>>> ;-)))))))))) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Wow, it's quiet on the list... everyone at Portland? >>>>> >>>>> Jay M Bernard >>>>> Thibodaux, LA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Aug 20 03:45:23 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:45:23 EDT Subject: [SEL] Stover KA wth ignitor? Message-ID: Jay, I am not a Stover expert, but if your engine originally came with an EK mag and a plate to modify the ignitor hole to spark plug, it could only mean that the engine was made during a production change from ignitor to spark plug. However, I would doubt that Stover would sell the engine that way. I would rather assume that your engine came with ignitor and someone changed it later to spark plug. There may be some Stover experts out there that can elaborate on this subject, but they may be at Portland!! All is quiet here in Concord, Va. We are very quickly headed from drought to severe drought conditions! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 04:38:17 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:38:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] wow it's quiet In-Reply-To: <008201c902b1$befc1bf0$0200a8c0@PETER> References: <313016.31317.qm@web55912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <002501c90274$32d2afa0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48AB967A.5040302@rustic-engines.com> <005201c90280$c4aea8a0$0200a8c0@PETER> <48ABB096.4040409@rustic-engines.com> <008201c902b1$befc1bf0$0200a8c0@PETER> Message-ID: <6f6025160808200438v1beb69deo68daba22911e42f6@mail.gmail.com> On 20/08/2008, Peter Lowe wrote: First day today, we leave for Portland at 8am local time, will try and get some news back to to you guys during the three days we are at the show. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 20 16:43:42 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:43:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] my portland References: <01ce01c8ff40$51c16dc0$6401a8c0@PaulNew> Message-ID: <005501c9031e$9493dbb0$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> >I won't make it to Portland even though I live 90 mi away. Too much for >fuel, and just too big for these old legs. I don't understand their 'proof >of insurance' for carts, and I sure can not walk it. Print out your own insurance card man . Just pay attention , dont run over Leroy Clark, and nobody will care ! From oldengine at comcast.net Wed Aug 20 17:21:09 2008 From: oldengine at comcast.net (Harry) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:21:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> What's the scoop on the dinner Thursday night? Do I need reservations? (2) At Portland now, or should I say 5 miles south of Portland. Peter, I should catch you tomorrow at noon. -- Harry Message: 18 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:38:17 +0100 From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] wow it's quiet To: "The SEL email discussion list" Message-ID: <6f6025160808200438v1beb69deo68daba22911e42f6 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 20/08/2008, Peter Lowe wrote: First day today, we leave for Portland at 8am local time, will try and get some news back to to you guys during the three days we are at the show. Peter From avanti_64 at juno.com Wed Aug 20 18:22:52 2008 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:22:52 GMT Subject: [SEL] Stover KA wth ignitor? Message-ID: <20080820.212252.27480.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Hi Jay, we currently have a 1924 Stover KA 2hp with an ignitor/Webster mag as our 2008 raffle engine. It is throttle governed also. Joe Kelley Picture at: www.oldengine.org/members/mapa/ Click on the 2008 raffle engine to see a picture of it. ____________________________________________________________ Need cash? Click to get a loan. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiekGqrMP4bC0qJemw9c0CzElRkBE7puyHQe1jklYTy6kwEpX/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 19:25:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:25:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> References: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> Message-ID: <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> On 21/08/2008, Harry wrote: > What's the scoop on the dinner Thursday night? Do I need reservations? (2) > > At Portland now, or should I say 5 miles south of Portland. > > Peter, I should catch you tomorrow at noon. > > -- Harry The ATIS dinner and charity auction takes place at the "Back 40 Junction" restuarant in Decatur, north of Portland. It starts at 6pm sharp. Reservations are not generally required, but I will let Dave Rotigel knows that you and Jeannie will be coming. The Charity Auction is held after the meal, participants bring along bits and pieces for the auction which is held in the dining room area. The restuarant is on the left-hand side, about 2/3rds of the way up through the town, we all pay for our individual meals. See you tomorrow, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 19:33:53 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:33:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808201933l20eed199vd0d82313a1f8c37c@mail.gmail.com> On 19/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good > for the week. > > We are off out to have a look round the local antique malls and > bookshops today, serious engine stuff starts tomorrow! > Temperatures up to 91 degrees today, weather almost perfect with a light breeze. Saw 3 R&V engines in the sale area, two verticals imported from Argentina and a small horizontal, will get details for Peter Lowe tomorrow. Most of the regulars are here, exhibitor attendance looks about normal, but visitors seemed thin on the ground. Beverley slaughtered the National Anthem as usual, but generally it was pretty much business as usual. We came away a bit earlier than usual as we had been out in the sun all day without a break taking pictures, and were pretty bushed by 4pm. More tomorrow. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Aug 21 07:37:17 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:37:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808201933l20eed199vd0d82313a1f8c37c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter: That's one of the highlights I remember from the times I attended Portland. Remember - it's polite to keep the grimaces and groans to a minimum while she does her thing. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 09:34 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland ............................snippety snip.............................. > Beverley slaughtered the National Anthem as > usual, but generally it > was pretty much business as usual. > > We came away a bit earlier than usual as we had > been out in the sun > all day without a break taking pictures, and were > pretty bushed by > 4pm. > > More tomorrow. > > Peter From old_iron at msn.com Thu Aug 21 19:45:53 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:45:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> References: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Just to let you all know the auction brought in $2,153.50. With just 34 people bidding, I think this was pretty good. Have a great day, Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:25:01 +0100> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland> > On 21/08/2008, Harry wrote:> > What's the scoop on the dinner Thursday night? Do I need reservations? (2)> >> > At Portland now, or should I say 5 miles south of Portland.> >> > Peter, I should catch you tomorrow at noon.> >> > -- Harry> > The ATIS dinner and charity auction takes place at the "Back 40> Junction" restuarant in Decatur, north of Portland. It starts at 6pm> sharp. Reservations are not generally required, but I will let Dave> Rotigel knows that you and Jeannie will be coming.> > The Charity Auction is held after the meal, participants bring along> bits and pieces for the auction which is held in the dining room area.> > The restuarant is on the left-hand side, about 2/3rds of the way up> through the town, we all pay for our individual meals.> > See you tomorrow,> > Peter> > -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 04:55:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:55:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction In-Reply-To: References: <58C6B4442FFA47A3B336954407A5E39E@D3SLSY91> <6f6025160808201925n97da5cdt5e394e850784ba17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808220455j5790485w4847cbf7b59719d9@mail.gmail.com> On 22/08/2008, William J Pfeiffer Sr wrote: > > Just to let you all know the auction brought in $2,153.50. > > With just 34 people bidding, I think this was pretty good. > > Have a great day, > > Peg Pfeiffer Thanks to Peg & Bill for organizing the bidder's tickets and keeping track of the sometimes hectic bidding, it was a good evening, enjoyed by everyone. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 22 16:44:16 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808220455j5790485w4847cbf7b59719d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <248426.1132.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to both of you for the info. Many of us wish we could be at Portland. BTW,,, It was great to meet you at Buckley. Alan Bowen --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Listerdiesel wrote: From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland/Charity Auction To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:55 AM On 22/08/2008, William J Pfeiffer Sr wrote: > > Just to let you all know the auction brought in $2,153.50. > > With just 34 people bidding, I think this was pretty good. > > Have a great day, > > Peg Pfeiffer Thanks to Peg & Bill for organizing the bidder's tickets and keeping track of the sometimes hectic bidding, it was a good evening, enjoyed by everyone. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From old_iron at msn.com Fri Aug 22 18:15:05 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:15:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Pat Ruston In-Reply-To: <248426.1132.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6f6025160808220455j5790485w4847cbf7b59719d9@mail.gmail.com> <248426.1132.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mr. Ruston passed away last Feb. and his wife would like to sell a Stearns Light Plant - Water cooled Please contact his wife at ruston at orc.caif intersted. He was a list memeber > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Aug 23 05:08:21 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:08:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> On 19/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good > for the week. We almost melted yesterday, temperatures up in the mid to high 90's and very humid with hazy sunshine. Still lots to see, we have taken 700+ pictures and loads of videos during the three days and still found things we hadn't seen on the first two days. Exhibitor numbers seemed to be about par for the course, but people visiting didn't match previous years IMO. Butt buggies were a nuisance, especially those that just stopped where they fancied and blocked the road for others while they looked at something that took their interest. We saw many new engines this trip, which was encouraging. The Heer flat twin that we videoed and pictured last year was represented this year by the water-cooled version of the same engine. A Racine inverted twin was a surprise, plus a F-M railcar refrigeration engine which was new to us. A big compressor engine in the OFES section was impressive, but really needed a silencer of some kind, it was painful to be near to! Attendees: Rob & Kelley, Mike & Susan Tucker, Mel & Steve Webre, Curt, Missy & Devin Holland, Keith Kinney, Arnie Fero, Dave Rotigel, Tommy Turner, J B Castagnos, Craig Morrison, Reggie Ingold, Mike & Steve Royster, Luke & Shirley & Berky Tonnenberger plus others I cannot remember for now. We stayed latish on Friday, then got called away to see a contact on the sales area, which then developed into a long discussion on engines, so it was late before we got away. Temperatures were still in the mid 80's at 8pm! We did lookback over to the List area before we left the show, but it looked as though the gathering had dispersed, so we weren't able to say goodbye to everyone. It was a good show for us, couldn't have been better really, possibly slightly cooler weather, but that is a minor complaint. Thanks to everyone for making us welcome! Peter & Rita -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ddotto at cableone.net Sun Aug 24 08:46:21 2008 From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:46:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> Thanks for your efforts Peter; looking forward to seeing the pictures. It makes it nice for those of us who can't always make it to the show. Dave Dave Otto Boise, Idaho UAS -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:08 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland On 19/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > 67 degrees and clear blue skies at Muncie, weather forecast is good > for the week. We almost melted yesterday, temperatures up in the mid to high 90's and very humid with hazy sunshine. Still lots to see, we have taken 700+ pictures and loads of videos during the three days and still found things we hadn't seen on the first two days. Exhibitor numbers seemed to be about par for the course, but people visiting didn't match previous years IMO. Butt buggies were a nuisance, especially those that just stopped where they fancied and blocked the road for others while they looked at something that took their interest. We saw many new engines this trip, which was encouraging. The Heer flat twin that we videoed and pictured last year was represented this year by the water-cooled version of the same engine. A Racine inverted twin was a surprise, plus a F-M railcar refrigeration engine which was new to us. A big compressor engine in the OFES section was impressive, but really needed a silencer of some kind, it was painful to be near to! Attendees: Rob & Kelley, Mike & Susan Tucker, Mel & Steve Webre, Curt, Missy & Devin Holland, Keith Kinney, Arnie Fero, Dave Rotigel, Tommy Turner, J B Castagnos, Craig Morrison, Reggie Ingold, Mike & Steve Royster, Luke & Shirley & Berky Tonnenberger plus others I cannot remember for now. We stayed latish on Friday, then got called away to see a contact on the sales area, which then developed into a long discussion on engines, so it was late before we got away. Temperatures were still in the mid 80's at 8pm! We did lookback over to the List area before we left the show, but it looked as though the gathering had dispersed, so we weren't able to say goodbye to everyone. It was a good show for us, couldn't have been better really, possibly slightly cooler weather, but that is a minor complaint. Thanks to everyone for making us welcome! Peter & Rita -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3381 (20080822) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From oldengin at verizon.net Sun Aug 24 14:06:23 2008 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:06:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> Message-ID: <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Maybe the best show ever!!!!!!!! I had a GREAT time and have (at this moment) secured camping space for next year already. Leroy From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Aug 24 19:24:30 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:24:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nRN1nzD2GUwN5Xdo3kftic4XCGFgPuy3lLWbmSb36UIXMAd/ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 24 20:05:15 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures References: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <6D17A67C91194350BF82354057A4E40E@FAMILY> Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the folder past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading the pictures? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures > Hi all. > Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nRN1nzD2GUwN5Xdo3kftic4XCGFgPuy3lLWbmSb36UIXMAd/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun Aug 24 20:13:58 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:13:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <6D17A67C91194350BF82354057A4E40E@FAMILY> References: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> <6D17A67C91194350BF82354057A4E40E@FAMILY> Message-ID: <2074C6680C0E4602A75FF0BC46E82315@PML> No problems with the pics here. Some very nice engines. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the folder past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading the pictures? Paul From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Aug 24 20:22:04 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:22:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Paul. Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't even work for me. Try this then arrow forward. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#523816884 6633448786 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" writes: > Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even > > downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the > folder > past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading > the > pictures? > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcFkP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ From FRM8198 at aol.com Sun Aug 24 20:38:01 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:38:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: Thanks for sharing. In a message dated 8/24/2008 7:29:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 20:42:55 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:42:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <003c01c90664$aaa005c0$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Worked for me twice; once about 10 minutes ago then again just before sending this? Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Hi Paul. Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't even work for me. Try this then arrow forward. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#52381688 4 6633448786 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" writes: > Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even > > downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the > folder > past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading > the > pictures? > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcF kP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gibsongus at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 22:09:54 2008 From: gibsongus at earthlink.net (Gus) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:09:54 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures Message-ID: <6292171.1219640994550.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ron does the tree stump engine have brass rings?? I think you liked the looks of the Lambert engine,,, -----Original Message----- >From: rdhaskell at juno.com >Sent: Aug 24, 2008 8:22 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland pictures > >Hi Paul. >Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't >even work for me. > Try this then arrow forward. >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#523816884 >6633448786 > >Ron Haskell >rdhaskell at juno.com >Riverside, California USA >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > >On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" > writes: >> Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even >> >> downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the >> folder >> past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading >> the >> pictures? >> >> Paul >____________________________________________________________ >Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcFkP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rholtzer at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 22:30:11 2008 From: rholtzer at earthlink.net (Robert L. Holtzer) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:30:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20080824.192431.1132.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: Very nice, Ron. Thanks. Bob Holtzer At 07:24 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote: >Hi all. >Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. > >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802 > >Ron Haskell >rdhaskell at juno.com >Riverside, California USA >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell >____________________________________________________________ >Save on Cell Phones. Click Now! >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nRN1nzD2GUwN5Xdo3kftic4XCGFgPuy3lLWbmSb36UIXMAd/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Aug 25 07:49:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:49:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ron: Thanks. They came through to the Redneck Riviera fine. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > In a message dated 8/24/2008 7:29:48 P.M. Pacific > Daylight Time, > rdhaskell at juno.com writes: > > Here are a few pictures from the Portland show. From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 11:11:00 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:11:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures References: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <3A02601016E74683AE0000115D4567D4@FAMILY> Got it Ron. Super great pictures, the color is very sharp and clear. Thanks for posting them. Does anyone have any contact information on these engines? I have attached a picture taken from Ron's pictures. I would like to contact this owner. http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/?action=view¤t=PortlandEngine.jpg Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland pictures > Hi Paul. > Usually the URL that I see for the album works, but this time it doesn't > even work for me. > Try this then arrow forward. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/PortlandShow200802/photo#523816884 > 6633448786 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:05:15 -0500 "Paul Maples" > writes: >> Ron I have tried for the last 30 minutes to see these pictures, even >> >> downloaded and installed the Picasa Software but I cannot open the >> folder >> past the 1st picture. Am I the only one having trouble downloading >> the >> pictures? >> >> Paul > ____________________________________________________________ > Free Phones with a Plan. All Cellular Carriers- Click Now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6wzzW23qsY3eRnvVcFkP7DImOEyQYWQMBhn0L4ln7nOd/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 25 15:03:02 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:03:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1219701782.48b32c1630700@webmail.city-net.com> Gee Peter, Methinks you were suffering heatstroke. A gang of us were in the SEL area doing serious damage to the beer stocks till well past midnight Friday night. We even had a couple of yellow dogs providing atmosphere (and mosquito repellent). See ya, Arnie Quoting Listerdiesel : > We stayed latish on Friday, then got called away to see a contact on > the sales area, which then developed into a long discussion on > engines, so it was late before we got away. Temperatures were still in > the mid 80's at 8pm! We did lookback over to the List area before we > left the show, but it looked as though the gathering had dispersed, so > we weren't able to say goodbye to everyone. From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 15:41:22 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:41:22 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Looking for someone Message-ID: <44EEE791D8024B108ACDA91A6BA33033@FAMILY> Does anyone have the e-mail address for Skip and Jean Barnes of Monticello, Indiana? I would like to contact them. Thanks, Paul From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Aug 25 16:51:46 2008 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:51:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for someone Message-ID: <20080825.165147.612.2.rdhaskell@juno.com> nformation on Vicki Ball to Eugene L Barney in Monticello, IN ... Monticello, Indiana, IN phone number of Jean Barnes in Monticello (574) 583-8723 ... Click here for the detail-page of Barnes Skip, Monticello ... www.userinstinct.net/address-7307-9.htm - Similar pages Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:41:22 -0500 "Paul Maples" writes: > Does anyone have the e-mail address for Skip and Jean Barnes of > Monticello, Indiana? I would like to contact them. > > Thanks, > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Cut the cord from your computer. Click to get the latest wireless access products. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m8bgzGEDX71qeQqPhXn3wHf5HxS4SrLwx4sX7q8eJ35ILPX/ From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 17:18:13 2008 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:18:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Looking for someone References: <20080825.165147.612.2.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <062A456FA47F4BFCA24642228F531EDC@FAMILY> Thanks Ron, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for someone > nformation on Vicki Ball to Eugene L Barney in Monticello, IN ... > Monticello, Indiana, IN phone number of Jean Barnes in Monticello (574) > 583-8723 ... Click here for the detail-page of Barnes Skip, Monticello > ... > www.userinstinct.net/address-7307-9.htm - Similar pages > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:41:22 -0500 "Paul Maples" > writes: >> Does anyone have the e-mail address for Skip and Jean Barnes of >> Monticello, Indiana? I would like to contact them. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul > ____________________________________________________________ > Cut the cord from your computer. Click to get the latest wireless access > products. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m8bgzGEDX71qeQqPhXn3wHf5HxS4SrLwx4sX7q8eJ35ILPX/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ilifa at internode.on.net Mon Aug 25 17:50:08 2008 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:50:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland pictures In-Reply-To: <3A02601016E74683AE0000115D4567D4@FAMILY> References: <20080824.202205.1132.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> <3A02601016E74683AE0000115D4567D4@FAMILY> Message-ID: The Portland pictures worked for me, but one on another forum would not. I was was advised to try another browser and that did the trick. Worth a try. Eric From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 05:42:02 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:42:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: <1219701782.48b32c1630700@webmail.city-net.com> References: <6f6025160808190550p22bdd4f7nbed2d8fc9989fb75@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808230508g5b9298f4se1c255a94de4a46d@mail.gmail.com> <1219701782.48b32c1630700@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808260542j77942fdcu91297b8579f10db6@mail.gmail.com> On 25/08/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Gee Peter, Methinks you were suffering heatstroke. > > A gang of us were in the SEL area doing serious damage to the beer stocks > till > well past midnight Friday night. We even had a couple of yellow dogs > providing > atmosphere (and mosquito repellent). > > See ya, Arnie Hmmm, must admit we didn't see anything obvious, and we almost called up on Saturday morning, but other arrangements had to take priority. Got to find Dave his sockets now... Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Aug 26 09:14:59 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:14:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister diesel clones In-Reply-To: <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: HI all, A friend is interested in purchasing one of the Indian made Lister diesel clones to run a back up generator. He has found a few but is concerned about the quality of castings, machining etc. specifically wobble in cam gear idlers and tolerances out of whack. Does anyone have any feedback on these? At one time there was an Importer here in western N.C. that sold them but I haven't heard anything in years from him. I seem to remember there was a problem importing them to the states due to pollution laws etc. Thanks for any help, Steve> _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ From rotigel at alltel.net Tue Aug 26 09:52:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:52:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister diesel clones In-Reply-To: References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP> <004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: John Culp got one years ago. He seemed VERY pleased with it. It was not the quality (casting, machining etc.) of an Otto or Ohio, but it seemed to work just fine! Dave On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > HI all, A friend is interested in purchasing one of the Indian made > Lister diesel clones to run a back up generator. He has found a few > but is concerned about the quality of castings, machining etc. > specifically wobble in cam gear idlers and tolerances out of whack. > Does anyone have any feedback on these? At one time there was an > Importer here in western N.C. that sold them but I haven't heard > anything in years from him. I seem to remember there was a problem > importing them to the states due to pollution laws etc. Thanks for > any help, Steve> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web > with Windows?. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Aug 26 09:44:17 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:44:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister diesel clones References: <08A6CB3E36354C7FBD19EE018C1F284F@SHOP><004a01c9062d$4491a360$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: <005201c9079a$fb4ec010$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Go to www.utterpower.com and order the Listeroid CD. He has quite a few hints and tips about how to improve the Listeroids and he sells new idler gears. There is also someone online who sells offset idler gear bolts to correct the gear lash problems. Get one with roller bearings. Disassemble it, clean out the crankcase, put in new big end bearings, put on a new fuel filter, clean off the buildup of paint on wear surfaces and reassemble. I had one for a while. It was a 6/1 Metro. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Lister diesel clones HI all, A friend is interested in purchasing one of the Indian made Lister diesel clones to run a back up generator. He has found a few but is concerned about the quality of castings, machining etc. specifically wobble in cam gear idlers and tolerances out of whack. Does anyone have any feedback on these? At one time there was an Importer here in western N.C. that sold them but I haven't heard anything in years from him. I seem to remember there was a problem importing them to the states due to pollution laws etc. Thanks for any help, Steve> _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 15:28:55 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 13:22:39 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:22:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures Message-ID: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> Unusually for us, we have started the videos before we do the pictures, although we do have some of both ready to roll. Video's, starting with Buckley: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm There are 13 or 14 ready now and we will be adding more during the evening. Pictures, starting with Portland: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm There three pages of 24 pictures per page ready. No captions yet. The last files are going over to Stationary-Engine now, so leave it for half an hour or so. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 06:27:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:27:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Avery on the sawmill and Case on the Prony Brake at Buckley MI Message-ID: <6f6025160808270627s1680efd0v9a4bacfb73298566@mail.gmail.com> Rick's reply reminded me that I haven't posted these yet: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08004.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08005.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08015.wmv http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08016.wmv They are widescreen format and should run as buffered file streams in Windows Media Player 9 or above. There are 64 separate files on the first DVD disk that we are editing, four disks in total, so plenty more to come. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Aug 27 16:50:32 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:50:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000701c9089f$b2df9830$742d0556@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Bernard" To: "SEL" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!) Who made this thing?? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now... http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA Hi Jay, try quoting the address below. Good bargain by the way!! http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQss Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 27 16:50:53 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:50:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c9089f$be7b8c80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!) Who made this thing?? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now... ////////////////////////// Nelson Brothers , and that is the later , improved style with the underslung governor . ( I'm not really sure what they improved though , but the governor cant fall into the crank anymore !! ) Looks like you got your money's worth. If he'll take 100 for the IHC on a factory skid that's sitting right behind it , you can call it a day . Chuck Balyeat http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 06:07:39 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:07:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections Message-ID: <6f6025160808270607j5758d7a6g111737aeb5f2603e@mail.gmail.com> Having had a decent bit of sleep and a chance to reflect on the previous two weeks' activities, I thought about a few notes for future trips. Travelling was fine with no major problems, fuel was reasonably priced (for us) and our hire car was quite up to the job. Our only real problems were at Heathrow on our return. Buckley was a very good show from any perspective. There was much more variety than we were used to, and much more in the way of alternative interests on show, such as the steam shed, the oilfield engine shed, the woodworking shop, the sawmill and the Prony Brake. As the club owns all the land it is much easier for them to have fixed exhibits than the shows that use other facilities. There were also places to sit and rest, without buying something. Most important for us old 'uns that need to take it a little more easily than before! The lack of seats or benches at Portland has always been something we have commented on. Travelling down south between the shows we had a look at the USS Silversides submarine at Muskegon, and we were able to reflect how well the USA does its visitor attractions, and this goes for the USS Pampanito in SFO as well. Portland was everything it ever was, and we found more engines that we hadn't seen before. Being almost 'regulars' now, we were able to talk with many people who we had seen before and catch up with most of the ATIS gang. We didn't seem to have as much time on our hands this year for some reason, possibly because of the extra pictures and videos that we took while walking round. The Charity Auction was fun, and thanks to everyone who was involved, we always look forward to the dinner and auction as part of the whole Portland show. One comment we would like to make, is that the arrangement with the separate back room that we had last year worked better in our view than having it in the main room. This is more obvious when you look at the videos, the background noise from the other diners is too high, and masks out a lot of what is being said in the auction area. We are editing the videos as I write, and we should be able to start posting them soon. This isn't a criticism per se, just an observation. We both felt that items might have sold better/higher priced if the descriptions had been clearer to those watching. Dick did a good job as auctioneer in our view. We almost called back Saturday morning as we had missed our good byes on Friday, but in the end we decided to carry on with our arrangements as we still had quite a few things left to do before we went home. Guns and Brits don't often mix, but we had a real blast with Jim & Jan Dunmyer on the Monday. Jim had bought a new handgun, a Ruger LCP, which he had to wait for as there was an order backlog. We went with Jim to Cabelas huge store at Dundee MI to collect the gun, and saw for ourselves the paperwork and checks that he had to go through before he could actually pay for the gun. Then he had to take it to the Sheriff's office to have it safety checked as well! Back at Jim's place we had an impromptu shooting session with the new gun, plus three others including a .45 (with reduced charges in the bullets) Very interesting! Then Jim asked Rita if she wanted a go, and she did.... very surprised indeed! Rita also shot them single-handedly while I had both hands on the gun when I fired. I think Rita was less concerned than I was at actually shooting the guns, and she tried three out of four if I remember correctly. The .45 was easiest to handle for me, as it had a full-sized handgrip and being heavier than Jim's carry guns it absorbed more of the recoil than the little ones. One of the guns was a real animal, it had a very light frame and kicked quite viciously, didn't like that at all. All too soon it was airport time and we were at Detroit checking our luggage and hire car. We had bought a load of stuff, including a cylinder head for the Onan W3S, a 4" thick Kohler manual set and other stuff including tools and presents. Fortunately Northwest's check-in didn't look at the weights of the bags. Flight home was quicker than scheduled, we landed at 06.46am, but we hit delays and problems at Heathrow. Our son was in the locality on time and we were out of the airport and on the way home in the morning rush hour by 08.05am. Home just before 10.30am and after a quick visit to the factory, we both crawled into bed, we had been awake for just on 24 hours continuously, apart from a catnap on the plane. Thanks to everyone for the great hospitality, especially Jim & Jan, and for making our trip so enjoyable, of the five trips we have made to Portland, this one was the best! Peter & Rita -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Aug 27 17:34:52 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:34:52 EDT Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: Jay, Great buy. The Wico mag is worth twice that amount! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Aug 27 17:41:54 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections References: <6f6025160808270607j5758d7a6g111737aeb5f2603e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006d01c908a6$de5007f0$726f4b47@mikecomp> I am thankful that you continue to make the trip, enjoy our country and content, and accept us in spite of ourselves! Thanks for your comments, pictures and videos. You do us proud. Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: ; "Stationary-Engine" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections > Having had a decent bit of sleep and a chance to reflect on the > previous two weeks' activities, I thought about a few notes for future > trips. > > Travelling was fine with no major problems, fuel was reasonably priced > (for us) and our hire car was quite up to the job. Our only real > problems were at Heathrow on our return. > > Buckley was a very good show from any perspective. There was much more > variety than we were used to, and much more in the way of alternative > interests on show, such as the steam shed, the oilfield engine shed, > the woodworking shop, the sawmill and the Prony Brake. As the club > owns all the land it is much easier for them to have fixed exhibits > than the shows that use other facilities. > > There were also places to sit and rest, without buying something. Most > important for us old 'uns that need to take it a little more easily > than before! The lack of seats or benches at Portland has always been > something we have commented on. > > Travelling down south between the shows we had a look at the USS > Silversides submarine at Muskegon, and we were able to reflect how > well the USA does its visitor attractions, and this goes for the USS > Pampanito in SFO as well. > > Portland was everything it ever was, and we found more engines that we > hadn't seen before. Being almost 'regulars' now, we were able to talk > with many people who we had seen before and catch up with most of the > ATIS gang. We didn't seem to have as much time on our hands this year > for some reason, possibly because of the extra pictures and videos > that we took while walking round. > > The Charity Auction was fun, and thanks to everyone who was involved, > we always look forward to the dinner and auction as part of the whole > Portland show. > > One comment we would like to make, is that the arrangement with the > separate back room that we had last year worked better in our view > than having it in the main room. This is more obvious when you look at > the videos, the background noise from the other diners is too high, > and masks out a lot of what is being said in the auction area. We are > editing the videos as I write, and we should be able to start posting > them soon. > > This isn't a criticism per se, just an observation. We both felt that > items might have sold better/higher priced if the descriptions had > been clearer to those watching. Dick did a good job as auctioneer in > our view. > > We almost called back Saturday morning as we had missed our good byes > on Friday, but in the end we decided to carry on with our arrangements > as we still had quite a few things left to do before we went home. > > Guns and Brits don't often mix, but we had a real blast with Jim & Jan > Dunmyer on the Monday. Jim had bought a new handgun, a Ruger LCP, > which he had to wait for as there was an order backlog. We went with > Jim to Cabelas huge store at Dundee MI to collect the gun, and saw for > ourselves the paperwork and checks that he had to go through before he > could actually pay for the gun. Then he had to take it to the > Sheriff's office to have it safety checked as well! > > Back at Jim's place we had an impromptu shooting session with the new > gun, plus three others including a .45 (with reduced charges in the > bullets) Very interesting! Then Jim asked Rita if she wanted a go, > and she did.... very surprised indeed! Rita also shot them > single-handedly while I had both hands on the gun when I fired. > > I think Rita was less concerned than I was at actually shooting the > guns, and she tried three out of four if I remember correctly. The .45 > was easiest to handle for me, as it had a full-sized handgrip and > being heavier than Jim's carry guns it absorbed more of the recoil > than the little ones. One of the guns was a real animal, it had a very > light frame and kicked quite viciously, didn't like that at all. > > All too soon it was airport time and we were at Detroit checking our > luggage and hire car. We had bought a load of stuff, including a > cylinder head for the Onan W3S, a 4" thick Kohler manual set and other > stuff including tools and presents. Fortunately Northwest's check-in > didn't look at the weights of the bags. > > Flight home was quicker than scheduled, we landed at 06.46am, but we > hit delays and problems at Heathrow. Our son was in the locality on > time and we were out of the airport and on the way home in the morning > rush hour by 08.05am. Home just before 10.30am and after a quick visit > to the factory, we both crawled into bed, we had been awake for just > on 24 hours continuously, apart from a catnap on the plane. > > Thanks to everyone for the great hospitality, especially Jim & Jan, > and for making our trip so enjoyable, of the five trips we have made > to Portland, this one was the best! > > Peter & Rita > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From clemsweller at etczone.com Wed Aug 27 17:45:14 2008 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:45:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> Nice buy! Not completely sure since the picture doesn't show the front, but many of these were Economy (Hercules). Flywheels and general appearance points me in that direction. Chuck Emsweller -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jay Bernard Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:29 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W 0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Wed Aug 27 18:19:36 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:19:36 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080827211936.GOP6G.442096.root@mp19> ---- Jay Bernard wrote: > I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? > Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? > Looks like a deal, Jay. For shipping check out freightquote.com. Commercial to commercial is cheaper than shipping to a residence. They don't want to go into subdivisions and fight loading problems. Picking up at the freight dock is also an option. J.B. Castagnos From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Wed Aug 27 18:41:50 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <20080827211936.GOP6G.442096.root@mp19> Message-ID: <005301c908af$3fe96850$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> FWIW I've checked freightquote a coupla times; if you call the 800 number on their website they'll give you an even better quote I found. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Looks like a deal, Jay. For shipping check out freightquote.com. Commercial to commercial is cheaper than shipping to a residence. They don't want to go into subdivisions and fight loading problems. Picking up at the freight dock is also an option. J.B. Castagnos From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Aug 27 20:14:54 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:14:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) References: <5.0.0.25.2.20080709101221.00c30b00@mail.net2000.com.au><000901c8e16b$49230040$0200a8c0@KAYE><1520A1F2B4F44182B6E9CC3C40A0D665@tommydk7hxjr4h> <026601c8e2f7$b6508970$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <71397724B1934E999982FE2BE58A33E7@tommydk7hxjr4h> Rick, I dropped off 100 lb of nickel babbitt with Dave Rotigel for the Tod Engine Foundation project. Not sure if Dave has dropped it off to you yet or will in the near future. I hope it helps. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered. I know > I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods > someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read > says > to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need > several hundred pounds of new Babbitt. > > I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have > remaining, > but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house > building > up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-( > > Maybe if you still have it next year... > > Rick Rowlands > Executive Director > Tod Engine Foundation > "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" > 2261 Hubbard Road > Youngstown, OH 44505 > 330-272-4089 > www.todengine.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > > >> Peter, >> I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you. I have some NOS >> Jackson >> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots. I'd sell it to >> you >> for $5 / lb. Its probably worth more than that for scrap. I bought >> about >> a >> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the >> guy >> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for one >> cylinders, Model T's and other applications. All that have used it are >> very >> pleased with it. Here's what it looks like: >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074 >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Lowe" >> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM >> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >> >> >>> Hi All >>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a >>> few >>> points. >>> >>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The >>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How many >>> thou. do I allow.? >>> 2. The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing >>> where >>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The >>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the >>> end, >>> I >>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would you >>> try >>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a >>> spiral >>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who >>> cares >>> it >>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining >>> also. >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm >>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical >>> R&V >>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at: >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm >>> >>> >>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit >>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$? >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Hi Peter >>>> >>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most >>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors. >>>> Composition: >>>> SN - Tin 88.20% >>>> AG - Silver 0.10% >>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00% >>>> CU - Copper 3.05% >>>> NI - Nickel 0 .15% >>>> SB - Antimony 7.50% >>>> >>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct. >>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, >>>> ID >>>> & length finish machining. >>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Ian Hill. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 >>> 7:50 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 > 6:43 PM > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Aug 28 06:00:09 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> Message-ID: Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" was "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for sure! Dave PS, All Economy engines sold by Sears were not manufactured by Hercules. Not sure of the date when Sears stopped marketing Hercules built engines under the "Economy" name--again Glenn would know off the top of his head--and I'm too lazy to look it up! PPS, Hercules built engines would have had a small square tag, not the oval as in the picture. -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On Aug 27, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote: > Nice buy! Not completely sure since the picture doesn't show the > front, but > many of these were Economy (Hercules). Flywheels and general > appearance > points me in that direction. > > Chuck Emsweller > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jay > Bernard > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:29 PM > To: SEL > Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! > > I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it > now, > $100!!!) Who made this thing?? > Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W > 0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie > wItemJay M Bernard > Thibodaux, LA > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gastzt at aol.com Thu Aug 28 06:07:40 2008 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:07:40 EDT Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: Dave You ARE absolutely right-- I still have 2 of them---1 Hercules and 1 Economy! Fun stuff! ha Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Tex **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 28 07:54:01 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:54:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> Message-ID: <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I > believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" was > "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for > sure! Right on, Dave. We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo as the Economy engine. From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Aug 28 08:45:21 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:45:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) References: <5.0.0.25.2.20080709101221.00c30b00@mail.net2000.com.au><000901c8e16b$49230040$0200a8c0@KAYE><1520A1F2B4F44182B6E9CC3C40A0D665@tommydk7hxjr4h><026601c8e2f7$b6508970$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <71397724B1934E999982FE2BE58A33E7@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <000c01c90925$144efa90$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Tommy. Thanks. I will send off a thank you letter and copy of that price quote sheet to you. Repouring those bearings will be a big job, one which I'll tackle once we get our building erected. I won't be able to run the engine with its current bearings. Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > Rick, > I dropped off 100 lb of nickel babbitt with Dave Rotigel for the Tod > Engine Foundation project. Not sure if Dave has dropped it off to you yet > or will in the near future. I hope it helps. > > Tommy Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > > >>I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered. I >>know >> I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods >> someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read >> says >> to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need >> several hundred pounds of new Babbitt. >> >> I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have >> remaining, >> but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house >> building >> up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-( >> >> Maybe if you still have it next year... >> >> Rick Rowlands >> Executive Director >> Tod Engine Foundation >> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" >> 2261 Hubbard Road >> Youngstown, OH 44505 >> 330-272-4089 >> www.todengine.org >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >> >> >>> Peter, >>> I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you. I have some NOS >>> Jackson >>> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots. I'd sell it to >>> you >>> for $5 / lb. Its probably worth more than that for scrap. I bought >>> about >>> a >>> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the >>> guy >>> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for >>> one >>> cylinders, Model T's and other applications. All that have used it are >>> very >>> pleased with it. Here's what it looks like: >>> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074 >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a >>>> few >>>> points. >>>> >>>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The >>>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How >>>> many >>>> thou. do I allow.? >>>> 2. The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing >>>> where >>>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The >>>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the >>>> end, >>>> I >>>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would >>>> you >>>> try >>>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a >>>> spiral >>>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who >>>> cares >>>> it >>>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining >>>> also. >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm >>>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical >>>> R&V >>>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at: >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit >>>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Hi Peter >>>>> >>>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most >>>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors. >>>>> Composition: >>>>> SN - Tin 88.20% >>>>> AG - Silver 0.10% >>>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00% >>>>> CU - Copper 3.05% >>>>> NI - Nickel 0 .15% >>>>> SB - Antimony 7.50% >>>>> >>>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct. >>>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, >>>>> ID >>>>> & length finish machining. >>>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Ian Hill. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: >>>> 7/8/2008 >>>> 7:50 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 >> 6:43 PM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu Aug 28 08:49:08 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:49:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590812CA95@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> My guess would be that it is a Sattley engine as that was what MW was reselling in the 20's. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jay Bernard Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:29 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-HP-Antique-Montgomery-Wards-Wico-Electric-Engine_W0QQitemZ320291784501QQihZ011QQcategoryZ79670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemJay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Aug 28 09:25:42 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:25:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) In-Reply-To: <000c01c90925$144efa90$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <01ad01c9092a$b78939f0$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Rick, I've got another stash of Babbitt in a loft. When I dig it out I'll try to get you some more. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tod Engine Foundation Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:45 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) Tommy. Thanks. I will send off a thank you letter and copy of that price quote sheet to you. Repouring those bearings will be a big job, one which I'll tackle once we get our building erected. I won't be able to run the engine with its current bearings. Rick Rowlands Executive Director Tod Engine Foundation "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > Rick, > I dropped off 100 lb of nickel babbitt with Dave Rotigel for the Tod > Engine Foundation project. Not sure if Dave has dropped it off to you yet > or will in the near future. I hope it helps. > > Tommy Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) > > >>I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered. I >>know >> I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods >> someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read >> says >> to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need >> several hundred pounds of new Babbitt. >> >> I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have >> remaining, >> but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house >> building >> up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-( >> >> Maybe if you still have it next year... >> >> Rick Rowlands >> Executive Director >> Tod Engine Foundation >> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage" >> 2261 Hubbard Road >> Youngstown, OH 44505 >> 330-272-4089 >> www.todengine.org >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >> >> >>> Peter, >>> I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you. I have some NOS >>> Jackson >>> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots. I'd sell it to >>> you >>> for $5 / lb. Its probably worth more than that for scrap. I bought >>> about >>> a >>> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the >>> guy >>> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for >>> one >>> cylinders, Model T's and other applications. All that have used it are >>> very >>> pleased with it. Here's what it looks like: >>> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074 >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt) >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a >>>> few >>>> points. >>>> >>>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The >>>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How >>>> many >>>> thou. do I allow.? >>>> 2. The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing >>>> where >>>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The >>>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the >>>> end, >>>> I >>>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would >>>> you >>>> try >>>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a >>>> spiral >>>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who >>>> cares >>>> it >>>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining >>>> also. >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm >>>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical >>>> R&V >>>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at: >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoratio n.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit >>>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> Ph: 61-266453455 >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Hi Peter >>>>> >>>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most >>>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors. >>>>> Composition: >>>>> SN - Tin 88.20% >>>>> AG - Silver 0.10% >>>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00% >>>>> CU - Copper 3.05% >>>>> NI - Nickel 0 .15% >>>>> SB - Antimony 7.50% >>>>> >>>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct. >>>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD, >>>>> ID >>>>> & length finish machining. >>>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Ian Hill. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: >>>> 7/8/2008 >>>> 7:50 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 7/10/2008 >> 6:43 PM >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 28 10:29:49 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:29:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590812CA95@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <002101c90933$ad1311e0$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> The question was "who made it " . Sattley is the MW brand , and Nelson Brothers built em . Lots of cool stuff besides Nelsons with Sattley tags , especially the bigger stuff . ////////// My guess would be that it is a Sattley engine as that was what MW was reselling in the 20's. From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Aug 28 13:09:36 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:09:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1219954176.48b70600a90dc@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Jay, Hell man, you didn't buy it, you bloody well stole it!! Good on ya mate! I love to see a win like that. See ya, Arnie Quoting Jay Bernard : > I just bought this montgomery Wards 11/2 hp engine on ebay, (Buy it now, > $100!!!)???Who made this thing??? > Hopefully i can get it shipped at a decent price now...? From clemsweller at etczone.com Thu Aug 28 16:27:56 2008 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:27:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <001501c90965$b3775960$1a660c20$@com> Thanks for the correction. I thought that MG and Sears both sold them. Still, quite a deal on the engine in question. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:54 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I > believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" was > "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for > sure! Right on, Dave. We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo as the Economy engine. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Aug 28 17:03:02 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:03:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! In-Reply-To: <001501c90965$b3775960$1a660c20$@com> References: <407890.1810.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <001d01c908a7$55cbccb0$01636610$@com> <09E95469-11FC-4F27-BB59-1A127937DD71@rustyiron.com> <001501c90965$b3775960$1a660c20$@com> Message-ID: <0DB93260-DAD9-4725-A3F3-C5D32AD580ED@alltel.net> You certainly have that right Chuck! Dave PS, Want to make $50.00 on the engine? On Aug 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote: > > Still, quite a deal on the engine in question. > > Chuck > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob > Skinner > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:54 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > >> Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I >> believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy" >> was >> "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for >> sure! > > Right on, Dave. We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo > as the Economy engine. From avanti_64 at juno.com Thu Aug 28 16:54:12 2008 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:54:12 GMT Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections Message-ID: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Peter, sounds like you two had a great time. Glad you enjoyed it! GB and Ireland is on out list of "to dos" some day. Joe Kelley ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find singles for dating, romance and fun. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iif6J3KQ4MHexYuAjTdNeGhhtS1KjOfGrJXTLFLXxTgUBYvzv/ From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 28 17:48:56 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! Message-ID: <883600.57256.qm@web55908.mail.re3.yahoo.com> No thanks Dave! Think I'll hold on to it!? I never asked the seller, but I'd be willing to bet it's not stuck and almost ready to run! ?Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA ----- Original Message ---- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:03:02 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! You certainly have that right Chuck! ??? Dave PS, Want to make $50.00 on the engine? On Aug 28, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote: > > Still, quite a deal on the engine in question. > > Chuck > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob? > Skinner > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:54 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Just bought a new toy!! > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:00 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > >> Economy engines (built by Hercules) were sold by Sears, not MG. I >> believe that by the time Sears was selling them the name "Economy"? >> was >> "owned" by Sears--could be wrong on that. Glenn Karch would know for >> sure! > > Right on, Dave.? We have an Economy sewing machine with the same logo > as the Economy engine. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 18:57:52 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:57:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> On 27/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: The second menu page of 36 videos is now up and running, The Portland videos start with the Charity Auction at #56. The last video on that page is a long one and will be an hour or so before we finish processing and sending it all to Stationary-Engine and Oldengine. Up to Video #64 is already running online. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 28 19:45:06 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:45:06 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Bosch DU4 Mag In-Reply-To: <003a01c90979$58e9cd20$02d5fea9@yoursz6x6sefxo> References: <003a01c90979$58e9cd20$02d5fea9@yoursz6x6sefxo> Message-ID: <1444CC6C-94ED-4568-BD19-DEBC8DC955A5@rustyiron.com> On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Ted Brookover wrote: > Hello everyone! As many of you know, my beloved Teddy died 2 years > ago and I sold his ignitor/mag business , as Teddy had planned, to > Don Miller. I'm in a dilemma and would appreciate any feedback you > all could help me with. I have been left with a restored mag that > someone has not picked up or not willing to pay for after 5 years > and the cost is $180. Can anyone tell me what kind of engine this > would work with and is anyone interested in it. Teddy put a new > coil, condenser tested good and he painted. I'm at my wit's end at > this point. Thank you for any info you can help me with. Thanks, Jen > Mrs. Jennifer Brookover > 4801 E. Red Bridge Rd. > Kansas City, Missouri, 64137 > 816-763-3142 > ignitors at sbcglobal.net , Home Page, http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ > Ignitor ID Page, http://www.oldengine.org/members/brookover/ign-id.htm Hi Jennifer, Good to hear from you. As you know, Portland just finished up; you guys were sorely missed. As to the mag, it's for a tractor. Items like that sell on ebay, or perhaps it would go well in the ATIS charity auction. The Christmas auction seems to have fizzled, but he Portland Auction is still going strong. Maybe next year? Rob From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 01:49:44 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:49:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> On 29/08/2008, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: > Peter, sounds like you two had a great time. Glad you enjoyed it! GB and > Ireland is on out list of "to dos" some day. > Joe Kelley Hi Joe: We have been very lucky with the weather and the exchange rates! England is a lovely country, but not as visitor-friendly as the USA in our view. Let us know if you get to come over. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 01:55:39 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:55:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <006d01c908a6$de5007f0$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <6f6025160808270607j5758d7a6g111737aeb5f2603e@mail.gmail.com> <006d01c908a6$de5007f0$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <6f6025160808290155u6ce71b62q8e60b7d30aac061@mail.gmail.com> On 28/08/2008, Mike Royster wrote: > I am thankful that you continue to make the trip, enjoy our country and > content, and accept us in spite of ourselves! Thanks for your comments, > pictures and videos. You do us proud. > > Mike Royster Mike: We both feel very comfortable with the USA and the folks we meet. We have never had any problems on the 13 trips we have made to the USA, and continue to enjoy the variety of places/locations that we visit. Bearing in mind that we have only been to a limited number of locations, we still have an awful lot to see in our remaining years. We are over again in October, Rita's 60th birthday pressie :-)) We are booked for a week or so in SFO, a place that we really love to be in. It is not surprising that people in the USA don't travel much overseas, they have it all in the one country! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Aug 29 09:08:00 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:08:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Peter, I disagree. I think England is VERY visitor-friendly. Have a look at my impressions from the first few trips. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2000/yank1.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2001/yank1.htm http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2002/yank1.htm Sorry that the last write-up is still a work in progress and the subsequent trips not yet started in the write-up department, but you'll get the right impressions from what is out there. See ya, Arnie Quoting Listerdiesel : > England is a lovely country, but not as visitor-friendly as the USA in our > view. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 10:03:36 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:03:36 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808291003u17e27e58q2c82e092f8f54c3c@mail.gmail.com> On 29/08/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hey Peter, > > I disagree. I think England is VERY visitor-friendly. Not if you are looking for accomodation. We don't have anything like the Super8/Motel6 networks in the UK and those that we do have are over-priced, charge for WiFi, are stingy with room sizes and facilities and all congregate around the popular centres. If you are visiting friends who can put you up, then I would agree with your view. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Aug 29 11:08:49 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:08:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections In-Reply-To: <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Gee Arnie, It looks like you are only SIX years behind on your England trip reporting!! Or, did you not include them to save space in this e-mail? Or MAYBE Dolly has been so busy at work she didn't have time to prod you into actually writing them. Maybe if you just sit down with a wee dram of what you won at the charity auction, let your mind relax, it will all come back to you and you can start writing again. I can't wait so read them, Steve> _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 13:49:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:49:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ATIS Portland Group Picture - Friday Message-ID: <6f6025160808291349o1eb58401pfd34805420fc57e3@mail.gmail.com> There is a full-sized image of the group picture at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Misc/ATISGroup2.jpg It is 1.6mb in compressed jpeg size. 4007 X 1937 pixels opened up. Feel free to play with it and add names etc if you want. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Aug 29 14:00:47 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:00:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 Message-ID: <002801c90a1a$4fc57d60$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I forgot to check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for Portland 2009 August 19-23? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Aug 29 14:52:22 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:52:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: <002801c90a1a$4fc57d60$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> References: <002801c90a1a$4fc57d60$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: The Portland pen says August 26-30. Dave On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > forgot to > check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > Portland 2009 August 19-23? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Aug 29 18:08:37 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:08:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections References: <20080828.195412.29372.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com><6f6025160808290149g3752e487vd25a43bea0c3918f@mail.gmail.com> <1220026080.48b81ee0de0b7@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <001d01c90a3c$ef19c9d0$726f4b47@mikecomp> Sorry Steve, Arnie is too busy working on the restoration of the FERO compressor to worry about writing stories of his travels. He has only been working on the FERO compressor project 5 years now................ MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland and Buckley Reflections > > Gee Arnie, It looks like you are only SIX years behind on your England > trip reporting!! Or, did you not include them to save space in this > e-mail? Or MAYBE Dolly has been so busy at work she didn't have time > to prod you into actually writing them. Maybe if you just sit down with a > wee dram of what you won at the charity auction, let your mind relax, it > will all come back to you and you can start writing again. I can't wait so > read them, Steve> > _________________________________________________________________ > Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 06:12:02 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:12:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This year's show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 The Portland pen says August 26-30. Dave On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > forgot to > check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > Portland 2009 August 19-23? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 06:54:36 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:54:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Discussion - Of Topic of Engines Message-ID: <000001c90aa7$f143d320$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> I know this is off topic of engine discussion but I chatted with some (actually a Q&A I did when I gave away some Babbitt) in regards to my local post office being one of 4 in the US that isn't required to use a zip code. I had someone ask me if I would send them the article about this and I can't remember who it was. So, whoever it was can click on this link and read the article that was written in a stamp collector's guide. http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/HodgenvillePostOffice Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From rotigel at alltel.net Sat Aug 30 08:13:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:13:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I just talked to Nila (Tri-State Secretary) to confirm what I told you. Dave PS, Apparently the date on (some of?) the magnets was wrong. It's correct on the pens! -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This > year's > show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the > 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th > or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > > The Portland pen says August 26-30. > Dave > > > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >> forgot to >> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Sat Aug 30 08:23:57 2008 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:23:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > > >> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This >> year's >> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the >> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th >> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David >> Rotigel >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 >> >> The Portland pen says August 26-30. >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> >>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >>> forgot to >>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 09:41:16 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:41:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: <7C0C94F4880344038E782DB9708E86C1@tommydk7hxjr4h> Thanks Dave. I'm putting it on the calendar! Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > Hi Tommy, I just talked to Nila (Tri-State Secretary) to confirm what > I told you. > Dave > PS, Apparently the date on (some of?) the magnets was wrong. It's > correct on the pens! > > > -------- > David Rotigel > rotigel at alltel.net > > > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This >> year's >> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the >> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th >> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David >> Rotigel >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 >> >> The Portland pen says August 26-30. >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: >> >>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >>> forgot to >>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 6:12 PM From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 09:46:35 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:46:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: Yeah Doug, I remember for years going to Portland and it being the weekend before the Labor Day weekend. Our schools would always start the week before Labor Day and Portland was always my last engine "adventure" before starting back to school. When I looked at the calendar for 2009 and then inquired with a friend via email we had conflicting dates. Dave R. checking with Nila is a plus for us all to get it on the calendar right. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Tallman" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day > weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > > >> On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> >>> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This >>> year's >>> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the >>> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th >>> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David >>> Rotigel >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM >>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 >>> >>> The Portland pen says August 26-30. >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I >>>> forgot to >>>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for >>>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? >>>> >>>> Tommy Turner >>>> Magnolia, KY >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 6:12 PM From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Aug 30 10:24:39 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:24:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] portland 08 Message-ID: <002101c90ac5$4859f5a0$50bd474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi gang , Just returned home yesterday from my trip to Baraboo and Portland and would like to say how good it was to meet so many of you again, and also say thanks for all the hospitality shown. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it over again next year so I'll see you all sometime in the future. Cheers , Craig in Scotland. P.S; I hope that the guys with the rubber fetish ( they no who they are ) got home with out having any more leaky rubbers From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Aug 30 10:30:35 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:30:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080830125756.03016610@pop3.wcoil.com> Portland Show will be the week of the 24th. Doug is correct Portland Show is always figured to be the week before Labor Day week. Labor Day Week is the week before the first Monday of September which is the Seventh next year. So the week before that week for Portland. Carl was hit up on that question quite a bit during the show this year with folks thinking it was supposed to be the third weekend too, which it generally is, but thats only by coincidense. Thats where the swap meet had troubles over the years. It was generally accepted by the attendees to be the week before Memorial week. But it was actually originally designated the third weekend of the month by the club. So sometimes a empty week fell between Portland and Waukee which threw a few attendees off their feed when it happened. They have since changed that and now it too is supposed to always be the week before Memorial Week. Mark At 11:23 AM 8/30/08, you wrote: >Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day >weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > > > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This > >> year's > >> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the > >> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th > >> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. > >> > >> Tommy Turner > >> Magnolia, KY > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > >> Rotigel > >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > >> > >> The Portland pen says August 26-30. > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > >>> forgot to > >>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > >>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? > >>> > >>> Tommy Turner > >>> Magnolia, KY > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Aug 30 11:11:32 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:11:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <000001c90aa1$fe527900$7701a8c0@tommyd0x52gkco> <48B9660D.6040707@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080830134025.0301c350@pop3.wcoil.com> If I remember Carl correctly he was saying the date for the 2009 spring swap meet is somewhat incorrect on the magnets they distributed. They read May 11-17th and are supposed to read May 13th - 17th. He said they are shortening the swap by two days for 2009. This should be an improvement if it happens for buyers and sellers both. Mark At 12:46 PM 8/30/08, you wrote: >Yeah Doug, I remember for years going to Portland and it being the weekend >before the Labor Day weekend. Our schools would always start the week >before Labor Day and Portland was always my last engine "adventure" before >starting back to school. When I looked at the calendar for 2009 and then >inquired with a friend via email we had conflicting dates. Dave R. checking >with Nila is a plus for us all to get it on the calendar right. > >Tommy Turner > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Tallman" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > > > > Tommy, It used to be figured that it was the weekend before labor Day > > weekend. Don't have next years calendar handy to see if its the same. Doug > > > > > >> On Aug 30, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure when I looked at the calendar. This > >>> year's > >>> show was held on the 4th weekend (Sat-Sun) of August and next year the > >>> 4th weekend is Aug 22-23. I didn't know if it would begin on the 19th > >>> or would begin on the following week (the 26th). Thanks. > >>> > >>> Tommy Turner > >>> Magnolia, KY > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > >>> Rotigel > >>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:52 PM > >>> To: The SEL email discussion list > >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland 2009 > >>> > >>> The Portland pen says August 26-30. > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Tommy Turner wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Just wanted to make sure I put it on the calendar correctly (I > >>>> forgot to > >>>> check the date when I registered at Portland). Are the dates for > >>>> Portland 2009 August 19-23? > >>>> > >>>> Tommy Turner > >>>> Magnolia, KY > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 8/29/2008 >6:12 PM > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Aug 30 11:31:22 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:31:22 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 53, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> >Message: 9 >Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:54:36 -0400 >From: "Tommy Turner" >Subject: [SEL] Portland Discussion - Of Topic of Engines >I know this is off topic of engine discussion but I chatted with some >(actually a Q&A I did when I gave away some Babbitt) in regards to my >local post office being one of 4 in the US that isn't required to use a >zip code. I had someone ask me if I would send them the article about >this and I can't remember who it was. So, whoever it was can click on >this link and read the article that was written in a stamp collector's >guide. > >http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/HodgenvillePostOffice > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of websites that "require" you to fill in a postal code. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Aug 30 13:45:06 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:45:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Caste Iron Curry Lister Message-ID: <1220129106.48b9b1520d0d2@webmail.city-net.com> Who was looking for info on the Caste Iron Curry Listers; was that Steve? There's one on eBay now and the seller/dealer could be contacted for more detailed info. See ya, Arnie ================================================================= http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=120297986399 ================================================================= Item name: Metro Lister CS Clone Diesel Engine 6 HP New Biodiesel Current price: $999.00 Buy It Now price: $1,100.00 End time: Aug-31-08 09:56:24 PDT From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 17:18:29 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:18:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: We do have a postal (ZIP) code assigned to us but aren't required to use it (most everyone does though). The 4 places mentioned are the only ones in the US that even if a person fails to place the zip code, the mail must still be delivered to them. If I were to mail a letter to a friend in Chicago and left off the zip code, the post office would return it to me claiming it had an improper address. However, if that friend sends me one and leaves off the zip code, it has to be delivered as a zip code isn't required for me. Its better to use it though as if a zip code isn't used, the letter isn't machine sorted and has to be hand sorted. I haven't tried before but I wonder what UPS, FedEx, etc would do if someone tried to send me something and when asked for a zip code they were told I didn't have to have one. There would be some eyebrows raised I'm sure. There is some question as to why of all the thousands of post offices in the US, we're one of only 4 that don't have to use a zip code. One story is that its due to the historic significance of the Lincoln Birthplace located here. However, another story may be the real reason. When zip codes came into being, a gent from our town (one of my relatives in fact) was a member of Congress and chaired the committee that created them. He also happened to be the former postmaster and he hated the idea of having to place a zip code on letters for his hometown. Makes sense as its certainly an example of our how our US Government works! Tommy Turner > > That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of websites > that "require" you to fill in a postal code. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 5:18 PM From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Aug 30 18:59:33 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:59:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <002001c90b0d$36bdab50$726f4b47@mikecomp> Lincoln birthplace, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes > We do have a postal (ZIP) code assigned to us but aren't required to use > it > (most everyone does though). The 4 places mentioned are the only ones in > the US that even if a person fails to place the zip code, the mail must > still be delivered to them. If I were to mail a letter to a friend in > Chicago and left off the zip code, the post office would return it to me > claiming it had an improper address. However, if that friend sends me one > and leaves off the zip code, it has to be delivered as a zip code isn't > required for me. Its better to use it though as if a zip code isn't used, > the letter isn't machine sorted and has to be hand sorted. I haven't > tried > before but I wonder what UPS, FedEx, etc would do if someone tried to send > me something and when asked for a zip code they were told I didn't have to > have one. There would be some eyebrows raised I'm sure. > > There is some question as to why of all the thousands of post offices in > the > US, we're one of only 4 that don't have to use a zip code. One story is > that its due to the historic significance of the Lincoln Birthplace > located > here. However, another story may be the real reason. When zip codes came > into being, a gent from our town (one of my relatives in fact) was a > member > of Congress and chaired the committee that created them. He also happened > to be the former postmaster and he hated the idea of having to place a zip > code on letters for his hometown. Makes sense as its certainly an example > of our how our US Government works! > > Tommy Turner > > > > >> >> That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of >> websites >> that "require" you to fill in a postal code. >> >> Keep the revs up (or down) >> Jerry Evans >> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 > 5:18 PM > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Aug 30 19:15:50 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:15:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes References: <5.2.1.1.2.20080830202815.00c25cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <002001c90b0d$36bdab50$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Yeah Mike, you NC boys and your claim that Lincoln had to be born there because he looked like an old gent that lived there......HAHAHAHAHAHA......sort of like an article I was reading the other day about a lady from FL who has an 18 year old son who is the spitting image of Bill Clinton, so she must actually be from Arkansas (well, at least she must have visited Little Rock about 19 years ago). Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes > Lincoln birthplace, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Off Topic Discussion - Postal Codes > > >> We do have a postal (ZIP) code assigned to us but aren't required to use >> it >> (most everyone does though). The 4 places mentioned are the only ones in >> the US that even if a person fails to place the zip code, the mail must >> still be delivered to them. If I were to mail a letter to a friend in >> Chicago and left off the zip code, the post office would return it to me >> claiming it had an improper address. However, if that friend sends me >> one >> and leaves off the zip code, it has to be delivered as a zip code isn't >> required for me. Its better to use it though as if a zip code isn't >> used, >> the letter isn't machine sorted and has to be hand sorted. I haven't >> tried >> before but I wonder what UPS, FedEx, etc would do if someone tried to >> send >> me something and when asked for a zip code they were told I didn't have >> to >> have one. There would be some eyebrows raised I'm sure. >> >> There is some question as to why of all the thousands of post offices in >> the >> US, we're one of only 4 that don't have to use a zip code. One story is >> that its due to the historic significance of the Lincoln Birthplace >> located >> here. However, another story may be the real reason. When zip codes >> came >> into being, a gent from our town (one of my relatives in fact) was a >> member >> of Congress and chaired the committee that created them. He also >> happened >> to be the former postmaster and he hated the idea of having to place a >> zip >> code on letters for his hometown. Makes sense as its certainly an >> example >> of our how our US Government works! >> >> Tommy Turner >> >> >> >> >>> >>> That's very interesting Tommy but it must confuse the heck out of >>> websites >>> that "require" you to fill in a postal code. >>> >>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>> Jerry Evans >>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: >> 8/30/2008 >> 5:18 PM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 5:18 PM From jbcast at charter.net Sat Aug 30 23:22:13 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 2:22:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav Message-ID: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and downed trees. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Aug 30 23:58:23 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:58:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080831025146.0301b040@pop3.wcoil.com> Last I heard Gust was at Cat 4 and they usually weaken a bit as they get in close to shore as the water is relatively shallow in the gulf nearer shore. Katrina was cat 5 in open water but weakened to 4? before landfall If I remember right. Will keep you in mind and have a drink for you when it comes ashore. Good Luck!!! Mark At 02:22 AM 8/31/08, you wrote: >Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a >weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans >on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and >downed trees. >J.B. Castagnos >Belle Rose, LA Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, Ohio Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Home #419.358.5206 From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Aug 31 01:18:53 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:18:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:22 PM, wrote: > Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is > a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New > Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us > are tornados and downed trees. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA Fare well, bro. From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Aug 31 07:11:58 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:11:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: <3F4D014B-009E-4B3F-B591-6DF88BDCF2A2@alltel.net> Hi J.B., Keep your head low and don't look out of windows until it's over! I'll be thinking about you! Dave On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:22 AM, wrote: > Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is > a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New > Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us > are tornados and downed trees. > J.B. Castagnos From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Aug 31 07:15:55 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:15:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Rob, Because there are some DEMOCRATS on The List, I Think it would be good if you would explain that there is a difference between "Farewell" and "Fare well!" Dave On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:18 AM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:22 PM, > wrote: >> Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is >> a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New >> Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us >> are tornados and downed trees. >> J.B. Castagnos >> Belle Rose, LA > > Fare well, bro. From fanmanj4 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 31 09:05:58 2008 From: fanmanj4 at yahoo.com (Jay Bernard) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav Message-ID: <806289.46690.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Yeah, looks like it's got it's sights dead set on Houma/Thibodaux. I just finished gettin my house packed up, and I'm riding it out at my firestation. ?Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA ----- Original Message ---- From: "jbcast at charter.net" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 1:22:13 AM Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and downed trees. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Aug 31 09:32:29 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:32:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: References: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> <4367C037-78EA-46E6-AB7C-4A749AC267AA@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8D841A30-0CC6-43E5-AB82-E0EE6A9D9B2F@rustyiron.com> On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:15 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > Rob, Because there are some DEMOCRATS on The List, I Think it would be > good if you would explain that there is a difference between > "Farewell" and "Fare well!" > Dave Dude... that's pretty funny. From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Aug 31 11:25:38 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:25:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831022213.NSFKI.692035.root@mp13> Message-ID: Hey, J.B: Keep yer head down! We're only gonna get a breeze and some rain. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jbcast at charter.net > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 01:22 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > > > Looks like this one is coming right over us, best > we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days > will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on > high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat > for us are tornados and downed trees. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 13:07:38 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:07:38 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808311307k6ed562e0nc9c63fd1cf8e0fb0@mail.gmail.com> On 29/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: All the videos are completed editing and are being uploaded to oldengine.org and stationary-engine.co.uk: [url]http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm[/url] or at: [url]http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm[/url] There are 146 separate videos, everything we shot in the 2 weeks we were over there. Pictures, starting with Portland: [url]http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm[/url] or at: [url]http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm[/url] There are 3 pages of 24 pictures ready, with a LOT more to come. We did the videos first this year so now we can start on the 600+ pictures. Let me know if you have any connection or viewing problems please. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 13:10:16 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:10:16 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Buckley & Portland Videos and Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160808311307k6ed562e0nc9c63fd1cf8e0fb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160808271322r306ffe1cl67ffcee30a9a6e1@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808281857o1549c95fxd9f3436532479b0c@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160808311307k6ed562e0nc9c63fd1cf8e0fb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160808311310h557b827eh9299427884ffb2d5@mail.gmail.com> On 31/08/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: Cutting and pasting produced some unintended additions! Try this: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08VideoMenu.htm There are 146 separate videos, everything we shot in the 2 weeks we were over there. Pictures, starting with Portland: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm or at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland08/Portland08Menu1.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jbcast at charter.net Sun Aug 31 17:03:32 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:03:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, securing loose items and getting generators running. J.B. Castagnos From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sun Aug 31 17:24:09 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:24:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <806289.46690.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a901c90bc9$0ec65220$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> You guys (& all the coastal residents but yall by name!) got my prayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Yeah, looks like it's got it's sights dead set on Houma/Thibodaux. I just finished gettin my house packed up, and I'm riding it out at my firestation. ?Jay M Bernard Thibodaux, LA ----- Original Message ---- Looks like this one is coming right over us, best we can hope for is a weakening. The next 3 days will be long. I'm 60 miles west of New Orleans on high ground, for Louisiana anyway, worst threat for us are tornados and downed trees. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 31 18:18:39 2008 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:18:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav References: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Message-ID: We'll all keep you in out thoughts J.B. In terms of a storm with devastating potential, I've been there done that a tornado. Make sure you and your loved ones are safe first. The old iron is just something to play with. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > > Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It > looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like > it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, > securing loose items and getting generators running. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1644 - Release Date: 8/31/2008 4:59 PM From pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Sun Aug 31 18:42:12 2008 From: pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us (Pete Alleman) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:42:12 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav In-Reply-To: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> References: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Message-ID: <1220233332.23947.6.camel@ralph> On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 17:03 -0700, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, securing loose items and getting generators running. We've been preparing here too. It looks like it will hit us a few hours after it runs over you. It looks like the biggest problem will be flooding from extreme amounts of rain. Best wishes. Our prayers are with you. Pete. P.S. The rogues list and the rest of my website will probably be down a bit depending on how much I run my generator and how my internet connection survives. -- Pete Alleman pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Lafayette, Louisiana USA From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Sun Aug 31 18:54:49 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:54:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Huricane Gustav References: <20080831200332.CP63X.771488.root@mp11> Message-ID: <00cc01c90bd5$b8045100$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> "The old iron is just something to play with." Unless you have really heavy iron which may serve anchoring purposes in a tornado. Also been there done that in a tornado. Didn't get my place but sure as hell tore up the neighborhood. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > We'll all keep you in out thoughts J.B. In terms of a storm with > devastating potential, I've been there done that a tornado. Make sure you > and your loved ones are safe first. The old iron is just something to > play > with. > > Tommy Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Huricane Gustav > > >> >> Thanks Elden, Dave , & Rob. I hope it's fare well and not farewell. It >> looks like it's weakening a little and moving in faster. Still looks like >> it's headed for us. I spent most of the day boarding up house and shop, >> securing loose items and getting generators running. >> J.B. Castagnos >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1644 - Release Date: 8/31/2008 > 4:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel