From nancydick at pennswoods.net Tue Apr 1 07:03:12 2008 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:03:12 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field In-Reply-To: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98> References: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98> Message-ID: <20080401110730.A84CF22998D@md5.pennswoods.net> Hi Arnie that first one in the photo line up. I have one of them it is last year they were made 1922. When i tell people it is a Cleveland they just look and say what is that never heard of them. R Fink At 09:53 AM 4/1/2008 +1300, you wrote: >Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not >all vintage > Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery > > > Regards to all >Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz > Mahia > NZ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: >3/29/2008 5:02 PM > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: >3/29/2008 5:02 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: 3/29/2008 5:02 PM From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 1 07:36:14 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:36:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <20080331205845.3VPY1.26359.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: Years ago, I scraped-in the mains on an American LaFrance 4-cylinder engine and used an old half-round file that I'd polished-up with a belt sander. I've still got it and it is SHARP as I've found when not being careful about handling it. I've used the lapping compound after scraping bearings for a semi-fit. It works fine but I don't buy their statement that you don't have to clean it out of a bearing. Except for fitting parts, I always wash out the gritty stuff. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jbcast at charter.net > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 07:59 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > > > > > I'll give you an old hacksaw blade that can be > sharpened so you can > > scrape your own bearings. > > > > > Rob, I'm doing a set of main brgs right now, my > favorite scraper is a used piston ring. They wear > sharp, hold it between your fingers and thumbs > and you can rotate it to fit the curve of the > bearing, scrapes an easy to control amount. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 1 08:22:02 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:22:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gang: Here I go again, talking to myself! I didn't see this sentence 'til I read in on the rerun. Doesn't make sense (so, what else is new?!). What I MEANT to say is that I always wash out lapping compounds, even the ones that are advised as safe to leave-in. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Elden > DuRand > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 09:36 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > ..........................snip......................... > Except for fitting parts, I always wash out the gritty stuff. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Apr 1 08:25:17 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:25:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] ATIS Auctions: Dead In-Reply-To: <222609.22904.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <222609.22904.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is what's being discussed among non-ATIS engine men. How about a little peer pressure to help get this problem solved? We pulled together to try to get Reg's money back from Bob Bromps, let's help Craig receive justice. Alan Bowen, you can stick the pliers in a reinforced envelope, put the appropriate postage on it, and you don't even need to go to the post office. I do it all the time. The mail man will take anything you give him. Spencer Yost, since the donated money hasn't been given to charity yet, how about sending Craig a refund? This seems like a simple problem to resolve. Just do it. Rob On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Craig Mathews wrote: > I understand the concept. I understand Fraud as well. Another set of > pliers will not fix this. I can get a pair of Blue Handled Fence > pliers anywhere, but not those pliers with all the history and items > that go with it. I can't say that it is indeed the "WFITBHFP's. Then > I'd be out the pliers, the cost of another set of pliers which would > mean absolutely nothing to me. I'd be happier if they send the $$ > back with shipping costs. I have e-mailed, called the auctioneer to > no avail. All I get is excuses as to why someone can't take a bloody > packed box to a post office and ship it after 3 months. > If I ran my auctions this way on e-bay, I would have been kicked off > e-bay and probably looking at mail fraud as well. I really do > appreciate the auction, and that it is a charity. But would you run > one like this and be able to say it's a good charity auction to bid > on? > Besides, I've had enough. I am filing with the USPS today and they > can figure it out. That's what my taxes pay for. From glenn.karch at att.net Tue Apr 1 09:06:21 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field Message-ID: <687284.93914.qm@web83719.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To bad they didn't have another caterpillar race. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: Arnie To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:53:14 PM Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not all vintage Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery Regards to all Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz Mahia NZ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 1 09:38:46 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:38:46 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field References: <687284.93914.qm@web83719.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01c89416$de295060$25c20b52@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Karch" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > To bad they didn't have another caterpillar race. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Arnie > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:53:14 PM > Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > > Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not > all vintage Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery > Regards to all > Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz > Mahia > NZ Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. Does anyone remember the source of the picture? see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Apr 1 10:00:20 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] ATIS Auctions: Dead In-Reply-To: References: <222609.22904.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1893.165.206.180.134.1207069220.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> You can even buy and print postage online......... Our little post office LOVES it if you use the carrier for things like that. Apparently, these tiny little towns are always at risk of losing the post office. If we buy stamps, or send packages through the carrier, it must count for something as they said "no, don't go into DSM and mail that, just leave it in the box with a note. So we do, and usually clip a couple bucks to it, or whatever. They carry change.......... I also keep a couple of flat-rate boxes on hand. > This is what's being discussed among non-ATIS engine men. How about a > little peer pressure to help get this problem solved? We pulled > together to try to get Reg's money back from Bob Bromps, let's help > Craig receive justice. > > Alan Bowen, you can stick the pliers in a reinforced envelope, put the > appropriate postage on it, and you don't even need to go to the post > office. I do it all the time. The mail man will take anything you > give him. > > Spencer Yost, since the donated money hasn't been given to charity > yet, how about sending Craig a refund? > > This seems like a simple problem to resolve. Just do it. > > Rob > > > > On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Craig Mathews wrote: > >> I understand the concept. I understand Fraud as well. Another set of >> pliers will not fix this. I can get a pair of Blue Handled Fence >> pliers anywhere, but not those pliers with all the history and items >> that go with it. I can't say that it is indeed the "WFITBHFP's. Then >> I'd be out the pliers, the cost of another set of pliers which would >> mean absolutely nothing to me. I'd be happier if they send the $$ >> back with shipping costs. I have e-mailed, called the auctioneer to >> no avail. All I get is excuses as to why someone can't take a bloody >> packed box to a post office and ship it after 3 months. >> If I ran my auctions this way on e-bay, I would have been kicked off >> e-bay and probably looking at mail fraud as well. I really do >> appreciate the auction, and that it is a charity. But would you run >> one like this and be able to say it's a good charity auction to bid >> on? >> Besides, I've had enough. I am filing with the USPS today and they >> can figure it out. That's what my taxes pay for. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From George_Best at adp.com Tue Apr 1 10:34:13 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:34:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field In-Reply-To: <001b01c89416$de295060$25c20b52@intrepid> References: <687284.93914.qm@web83719.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001b01c89416$de295060$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590679D85C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Dave, I think that picture was taken in South Africa at one of the attempts to set the record for the most tractors plowing at the same time. I know the record was set at one time in South Africa, but don't know if they still hold it or not. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:39 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Karch" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > To bad they didn't have another caterpillar race. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Arnie > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:53:14 PM > Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > > Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not > all vintage Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery > Regards to all > Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz > Mahia > NZ Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. Does anyone remember the source of the picture? see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Apr 1 21:57:32 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:57:32 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT New Google Search Message-ID: <20080402045704.HKUK10585.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/gday/index.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From brock at netspeed.com.au Wed Apr 2 01:56:29 2008 From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:56:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics Message-ID: <47f34a3d.3.3901.1806608630@netspeed.com.au> thanks for takeing the pics ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:45:36 +1100 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Apr 2 13:53:19 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:53:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <20080331200615.U913B.24210.root@fepweb08> References: <20080331200615.U913B.24210.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: <2027.168.215.206.73.1207169599.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> William, Why would you lap Babbitt when it is SO easy to scrape? With any lapping compound you will affect the surface of the steel shaft too. You will no longer have a highly polished bright steel surface. Not the most desirable to run on Babbitt. Curt Holland > > ---- William Young wrote: >> FYI, Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound. >> After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman >> Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label >> product. I was surprised, to say the least. >> Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189 >> 2 one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits 131 >> Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles 25 >> Total: $345 a bit much for one con rod bearing. I may down size to >> a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased >> and used this product. Comments? >> Bill in Japan > Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I > use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping > compound. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 3 01:01:35 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:01:35 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Tractor picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080403092649.00bda440@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 02/04/2008, you wrote: >Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. >Does anyone remember the source of the picture? >see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg >Dave Croft >Warrington >http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv Hi Dave, As George mentioned - it may have been in South Africa - but I think this may have been at one of the other tractor record events - probably Australia. It all started in April 1999 at Sandstone Estates here in South Africa with the first world record for the number of vintage tractors "working" in 1 field (109 tractors). They had to have a ground implement attached. This event was called the "Great 100 Working" Aus passed this total in 2001 with 298 tractors and Sandstone held their next attempt in April 2002 and pushed the total up to 755 tractors.This event was called the "Great 400 Working". Since then there have been a number of other events in Aus, Ireland and (I think) England. The current record holder is Ireland - they had a massive event last year and the total of tractors was something like 2000 (not sure exactly) (Sandstone actually sent tractors to this event and participated as they had also done in Aus.) There is talk of another attempt in Canada sometime in the future. I do not think that we (South Africa) will try again because we just do not have that many vintage tractors although the original concept of "working VINTAGE tractors" seems to have become a bit corrupted with more modern machines and even things like "ride on mowers" taking part in some of the later events. There is a good article here: I'm off to Sandstone next week for their annual "Cosmos Festival". Will be helping to start and run some of their Stationary engine collection. We always have a great time there and they look after us collectors very well - accomodation - good food etc. You can read about a previous one I attended on my site here: Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From page at velocitynet.com.au Thu Apr 3 02:42:16 2008 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:42:16 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tractor picture In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080403092649.00bda440@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <000301c8956f$00d337d0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Not sure but I think it was the one taken in OZ at the time they broke the record. I think at Cootamundra. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 7:02 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Tractor picture At 06:00 PM 02/04/2008, you wrote: >Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. >Does anyone remember the source of the picture? >see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg >Dave Croft >Warrington >http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv Hi Dave, As George mentioned - it may have been in South Africa - but I think this may have been at one of the other tractor record events - probably Australia. It all started in April 1999 at Sandstone Estates here in South Africa with the first world record for the number of vintage tractors "working" in 1 field (109 tractors). They had to have a ground implement attached. This event was called the "Great 100 Working" Aus passed this total in 2001 with 298 tractors and Sandstone held their next attempt in April 2002 and pushed the total up to 755 tractors.This event was called the "Great 400 Working". Since then there have been a number of other events in Aus, Ireland and (I think) England. The current record holder is Ireland - they had a massive event last year and the total of tractors was something like 2000 (not sure exactly) (Sandstone actually sent tractors to this event and participated as they had also done in Aus.) There is talk of another attempt in Canada sometime in the future. I do not think that we (South Africa) will try again because we just do not have that many vintage tractors although the original concept of "working VINTAGE tractors" seems to have become a bit corrupted with more modern machines and even things like "ride on mowers" taking part in some of the later events. There is a good article here: I'm off to Sandstone next week for their annual "Cosmos Festival". Will be helping to start and run some of their Stationary engine collection. We always have a great time there and they look after us collectors very well - accomodation - good food etc. You can read about a previous one I attended on my site here: Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 30/12/2007 11:27 AM From shop at cccomm.net Thu Apr 3 06:35:08 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:35:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FM T Cooling tower References: Message-ID: <001001c8958f$89702830$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Here's a couple of pic's showing a cooling tower and pump I installed on my engine. It's going to the Tulare show in a couple of weeks. Comments appreciated, Dave https://tractorman.photoshop.com/?galleryid=0a5e145370ee460480c8f285d0a984f3&trackingid=BTAGC&wf=share From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 09:28:02 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <2027.168.215.206.73.1207169599.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Curt-san, You asked, "Why?" Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which I have. The write-up by producers of this product indicate complete matching of surfaces, that the steel is not affected, only the Babbitt. Further, that the abrasive element of the compound morphs from abrasive to lubracative. Does the easy scraping method you refer to involve repetitively using Prussian Blue to identify high spots, scraping, rebluing ... until the degree of mating surfaces exceeds 80%? Please tell me more. I may give it a shot. Thanks, Bill curt at rustyiron.com wrote: William, Why would you lap Babbitt when it is SO easy to scrape? With any lapping compound you will affect the surface of the steel shaft too. You will no longer have a highly polished bright steel surface. Not the most desirable to run on Babbitt. Curt Holland > > ---- William Young wrote: >> FYI, Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound. >> After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman >> Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label >> product. I was surprised, to say the least. >> Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189 >> 2 one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits 131 >> Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles 25 >> Total: $345 a bit much for one con rod bearing. I may down size to >> a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased >> and used this product. Comments? >> Bill in Japan > Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I > use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping > compound. J.B. Castagnos J.B.-SAN, I SENT EMAIL TO McMASTER-CARR ASKING FOR CONFIRMATION OF PRICE AND AVAILABILITY OF THEIR PRODUCT ( I GAVE THEIR PART NUMBER PER THEIR ON-LINE CATALOG) FOR PICK UP AT THEIR WILL CALL DESK IN SANTA FE SPRINGS, CA. SEEING MY JAPANESE ADDRESS AND NOT BOTHERING TO READ MY TEXT, THE PERCEPTIVE LADY ANSWERING MY EMAIL TOLD ME THAT, DUE TO EVER INCREASING COMPLEXITY OF U.S. GOVERNMENT EXPORT REGULATIONS, M-C COULD NOT ACCEPT MY ORDER. I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE FOR MY EMAIL DIRECTED TO A SUPERVISOR SUGGESTING THAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE LITERATE IN ENGLISH RESPONDING TO INQUIRIES. From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu Apr 3 11:26:15 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:26:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004b01c895b8$349721a0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> I find it very difficult to believe that there is an abrasive that "morphs from abrasive to lubracative." How about some more details. One other question about bearing lapping, how do you get the abrasive that is imbedded into the babbitt out? The lapping process depends on the softer material becoming charged with the abrasive and cutting the harder material not the other way around as has been stated. I would not touch babbitt lapping with a ten foot pole. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. replace nomore with net to send mail jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Young" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound Curt-san, You asked, "Why?" Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which I have. The write-up by producers of this product indicate complete matching of surfaces, that the steel is not affected, only the Babbitt. Further, that the abrasive element of the compound morphs from abrasive to lubracative. Does the easy scraping method you refer to involve repetitively using Prussian Blue to identify high spots, scraping, rebluing ... until the degree of mating surfaces exceeds 80%? Please tell me more. I may give it a shot. Thanks, Bill From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 3 13:44:27 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:44:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <004b01c895b8$349721a0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: Jim: The instructions say that the lapping material (comes dry and you mix it to a paste in oil) does not imbed in either metal. I found when lapping bearings in a F-M 1-1/2hp Z the crankpin diameters did not decrease by any measureable amount. Sure, the shaft and bearings weren't shiny when I finished. Before running it, I had the bearings set-up for a moderate drag which lessened quite a bit after the first run. If I were really curious, I'd pull a bearing cap after about the three hours running the engine's got on it and have a look. If the manufacturer of the compound is right, the finish should be shiny on the crankpins and nearly so on the bearings. But I'm retired and lazy! :-) BTW, after the first short run, when I turned the grease cups, the grease came out of the journals black so I turned 'til it was clean, wiped up the mess and now, after the rest of the running, the grease is almost completely clean coming out, so I'd guess that no more lapping is occuring. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of JIM KIRKES > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 01:26 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > I find it very difficult to believe that there is an > abrasive that "morphs from abrasive to lubracative." How > about some more details. One other question > about bearing > lapping, how do you get the abrasive that is > imbedded into > the babbitt out? The lapping process depends on > the softer > material becoming charged with the abrasive and > cutting the > harder material not the other way around as has > been stated. > I would not touch babbitt lapping with a ten foot pole. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 3 13:27:21 2008 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:27:21 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics In-Reply-To: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: Nice pictures Patrick. Do you know anything about the picture of the Baker Monitor on page 4? I have been watching for photos of them since I recently acquired one for my collection. Is that a homemade pump outfit? If it is do you know what it is made of on the inside? Just curious because it looks like a very nice display. Ed Herreid> From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:45:36 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html> > > Patrick M Livingstone> Leichhardt NSW> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html> > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 3 16:00:16 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:00:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: > Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which > I have. Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap convenient for scraping. The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can shave babbitt. I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. Party on, ?????? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 3 17:35:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:35:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob: I ran out of layout dye when I quit the machine shop job and went into broadcast engineering (over 40 years ago). What I've used since then is magic markers. Sharpies work nice and the color selection makes sure you won't get hue deprived. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 06:00 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: > > Answer: I think scraping takes skill & > experience, neither of which > > I have. > > Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither > of those are required. > > JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a > thing or two about > engines, so listen when he types. I've used an > old hacksaw blade, but > you can use any hunk of metal that you can > sharpen into a shap > convenient for scraping. > > The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have > to worry about > accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If > you're capable of > shaving your face without ending up with a sink > full of blood, you can > shave babbitt. > > I've been working out of the same quart of > Starrett layout dye that > I've had for the last 25 years, but you can > probaby substitute any > kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. > > Party on, > ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Apr 3 16:36:30 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:36:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I usually just want a good bearing job. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Rob Skinner wrote: >On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: > > >>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>I have. >> >> > >Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. > >JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >convenient for scraping. > >The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >shave babbitt. > >I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. > >Party on, >?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Thu Apr 3 22:28:43 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:28:43 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080404052841.FXVY24880.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Ed, I don't know much on that particular engine. I am not sure if the pumpjack is original or not. Here is a pic of Edd Payne's engine with an original Monitor pumpjack: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/otherengines/03061431.JPG I have one of these engines but no pumpjack for it :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Nice pictures Patrick. Do you know anything about the picture of the Baker Monitor on page 4? I have been watching for photos of them since I recently acquired one for my collection. Is that a homemade pump outfit? If it is do you know what it is made of on the inside? Just curious because it looks like a very nice display. Ed Herreid From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Apr 4 16:25:02 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:25:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound Message-ID: In a message dated 4/3/2008 7:45:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 thousandths Tommy, That is a new way of making bearings I have never hear of. Sounds like a very simple and effective way of making bearings. Thanks for the tip! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 4 17:46:30 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:46:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F6CBE6.1060405@scrtc.com> Tom, Its worked good for me. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 4/3/2008 7:45:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, >lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: > >Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >thousandths > > >Tommy, > >That is a new way of making bearings I have never hear of. Sounds like a >very simple and effective way of making bearings. > >Thanks for the tip! > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > >**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Apr 4 19:25:25 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:25:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom????? Message-ID: <82E9E14F-B250-42FE-831D-8CFECD7B011F@alltel.net> Will someone please send me John Cullom's snail off list? I have a Galloway "Certificate of Guarantee" for a 12 HP engine (1915) and wish to send him a copy of that certificate. Thanks! Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Apr 4 19:34:15 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:34:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Reg's Next Model? Message-ID: <9655A300-49A5-4BBB-9A86-F6EF28A41C4A@alltel.net> See: http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/04/ post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net From mcghee9 at comcast.net Sat Apr 5 14:20:05 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 17:20:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do your oil grooves in the bushing? Carl McGhee Battle Creek Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its > bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 > thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from > McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 > halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back > on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold > them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals > with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually > do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it > cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or > oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done > this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect > bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if > someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll > want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I > usually just want a good bearing job. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > Rob Skinner wrote: > >>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >> >> >>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>I have. >>> >>> >> >>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. >> >>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>convenient for scraping. >> >>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>shave babbitt. >> >>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >> >>Party on, >>?????? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 5 15:05:49 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:05:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <47F7F7BD.7090503@scrtc.com> Carl, Two ways to do it. One is to simply put the caps in the mill and mill a straight groove with the edge of the endmill parallel to the jounal. The other is simply to take a die grinder with a carbide tipped cutter and "X" from the oil hole. I usually mill the groove as it takes about 5 minutes to set it up and mill it. I never put it very deep, probably 1/32 of an inch or so. Just enough that the oil can seep into the groove and make contact with the bearing surface. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Carl McGhee wrote: >Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do your >oil grooves in the bushing? > >Carl McGhee >Battle Creek Mi. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > > >>Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its >>bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >>thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from >>McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 >>halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back >>on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold >>them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals >>with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually >>do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it >>cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or >>oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done >>this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect >>bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if >>someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll >>want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I >>usually just want a good bearing job. >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >>Rob Skinner wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>>I have. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. >>> >>>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>>convenient for scraping. >>> >>>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>>shave babbitt. >>> >>>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >>> >>>Party on, >>>?????? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 07:44:39 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:44:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Message-ID: > > >Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold prices yet? Thanks, Steve> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________> >SEL mailing list> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> >> >> >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 From bgrimley at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 7 07:53:14 2008 From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (bgrimley at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:53:14 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> ? Link from Scholl's website says May 3: http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html -------------- Original message from Steve Royster : -------------- > > > > >Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? > Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold prices yet? > Thanks, Steve> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________> >SEL mailing list> > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> >> >> >> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_get > intouch_042008 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Apr 7 08:19:54 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:19:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Message-ID: <47FA3B9A.3060909@scrtc.com> Yeah, I went and bought some of the engines for $25 as I was the only one there. Just kidding folks. Bill's right, the auction will be on May 3rd and it will be at Raymond's place, not at the location originally advertised. Go to the link and you can get all the info. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > ? Link from Scholl's website says May 3: >http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html > > -------------- Original message from Steve Royster : -------------- > > > > >>>>>Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? >>>>> >>>>> > > > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Apr 7 09:46:28 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Message-ID: <1207586788.47fa4fe41fb41@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Steve, You lucky dog, it sounds like you've still got time to dig up some of your buried gold horde and go and buy yourself some more nice olde iron. Sort of Alchemy in reverse. Go on, you KNOW that Dawn wants you to! BTW, I chose to reply OFFLIST so that slippery oil baron brother of yours doesn't get wind of the real dates. If the evil Cloistered Oyster gets there with his millions in windfall oil profits you and Tommy won't stand a chance in the bidding. You can thank me later! See ya, Arnie Quoting bgrimley at bellsouth.net: > Link from Scholl's website says May 3: > http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html > > -------------- Original message from Steve Royster > : -------------- > Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? > Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold > prices yet? From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 10:37:26 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:37:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <1207586788.47fa4fe41fb41@webmail.city-net.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> <1207586788.47fa4fe41fb41@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: I got word the oil baron royster has already been up there and made off with the good stuff, (profits must have been real good, I'd expect quite a show at portland this year from him) > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:28 -0400> From: fero_ah at city-net.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction> > Hey Steve, > > You lucky dog, it sounds like you've still got time to dig up some of your> buried gold horde and go and buy yourself some more nice olde iron. Sort of> Alchemy in reverse. Go on, you KNOW that Dawn wants you to!> > BTW, I chose to reply OFFLIST so that slippery oil baron brother of yours> doesn't get wind of the real dates. If the evil Cloistered Oyster gets there> with his millions in windfall oil profits you and Tommy won't stand a chance in> the bidding. You can thank me later!> > See ya, Arnie> > Quoting bgrimley at bellsouth.net:> > > Link from Scholl's website says May 3:> > http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html> > > > -------------- Original message from Steve Royster> > : --------------> > Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? > > Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold > > prices yet? > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back up?use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 From mcghee9 at comcast.net Tue Apr 8 05:57:34 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:57:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] o.t. test References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <001401c89978$1d9ad230$0302a8c0@Carl> test Carl McGhee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl McGhee" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do your > oil grooves in the bushing? > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek Mi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > >> Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its >> bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >> thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from >> McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 >> halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back >> on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold >> them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals >> with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually >> do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it >> cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or >> oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done >> this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect >> bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if >> someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll >> want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I >> usually just want a good bearing job. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> Rob Skinner wrote: >> >>>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>>I have. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. >>> >>>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>>convenient for scraping. >>> >>>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>>shave babbitt. >>> >>>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >>> >>>Party on, >>>?????? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Apr 8 07:01:32 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] o.t. test In-Reply-To: <001401c89978$1d9ad230$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <001401c89978$1d9ad230$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <2696.12.223.26.26.1207663292.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> OK, here's an OT reply. You passed! > test > > Carl McGhee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl McGhee" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > >> Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do >> your >> oil grooves in the bushing? >> >> Carl McGhee >> Battle Creek Mi. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound >> >> >>> Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its >>> bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >>> thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from >>> McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 >>> halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back >>> on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold >>> them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals >>> with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually >>> do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it >>> cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or >>> oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've >>> done >>> this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect >>> bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if >>> someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll >>> want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I >>> usually just want a good bearing job. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> Rob Skinner wrote: >>> >>>>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>>>I have. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are >>>> required. >>>> >>>>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>>>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>>>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>>>convenient for scraping. >>>> >>>>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>>>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>>>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>>>shave babbitt. >>>> >>>>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>>>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>>>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >>>> >>>>Party on, >>>>?????????????????? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mcghee9 at comcast.net Tue Apr 8 17:20:48 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:20:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails Message-ID: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having problems. Carl McGhee Battle Creek, Mi. From garyepps at fidnet.com Tue Apr 8 18:17:53 2008 From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:17:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <375acf600804081817h538f0abei2e05d95f4c7186a2@mail.gmail.com> I've not noticed any problem. Mail is light. I obviously just got your email, so the system must be working. Gary On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at alltel.net Tue Apr 8 18:37:15 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:37:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> Hi Carl, I think the List must be down. Hell, I didn't even receive your post! Dave On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi. From endacomm10 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 9 00:55:13 2008 From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 00:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> Message-ID: <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My Grandfather was Very Fond of using the phrase.... " I Vonder vye der ars tso meny more Oarses Ashes in de vorld den der ares Oarses" David Rotigel wrote: Hi Carl, I think the List must be down. Hell, I didn't even receive your post! Dave On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Apr 9 05:39:51 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:39:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to wagga for the weekend. The girls spent most of the time shopping while the boys played engines. 580km each way trip for us and all went well. We spent plenty of time with fellow Sel folk. The Wagga engine Rally was a little quiet but none the less we enjoyed ourselves. I have put some pic's up on my webshot. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Apr 9 06:06:30 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:06:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> Its spring, and if everyone else is doing the same the outside stuff is taking up our time after a long winter. I didn't even turn on the computer for two days this weekend. I didn't miss it one bit. TTYL, Mark >On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > > > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > > problems. > > > > Carl McGhee > > Battle Creek, Mi. Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Apr 9 07:30:03 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> References: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4450.12.223.26.26.1207751403.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Next week when the electrician comes to wire the new shop, he's going to run network and cable in the trench, too........... (covers my butt in case Barbara gets mad, I'll have computer and TV) > Its spring, and if everyone else is doing the same the outside stuff is > taking up our time after a long winter. I didn't even turn on the computer > for two days this weekend. I didn't miss it one bit. TTYL, Mark > >>On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: >> >> > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having >> > problems. >> > >> > Carl McGhee >> > Battle Creek, Mi. > > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com > > Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. > Parts lists available on request. > > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 > No Sunday calls if possible. > I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I > represent > them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 9 08:41:17 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:41:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: Carl: Did you get this one? I got yours. ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Carl McGhee > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] E Mails > > > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is > anyone else having problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Apr 9 08:01:45 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4549.12.223.26.26.1207753305.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> No, please try again. > Carl: > > Did you get this one? I got yours. > > ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? > > Take care - Elden > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Carl McGhee >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] E Mails >> >> >> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is >> anyone else having problems. >> >> Carl McGhee >> Battle Creek, Mi > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 9 11:19:00 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:19:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <4549.12.223.26.26.1207753305.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: Well Gollllll-eee! I'll holler it louder this time. HELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo! YEEEEEEEeeeeeeee HAW! Didja git that one? Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > bill at antique-engines.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:02 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] E Mails > > > No, please try again. > > > Carl: > > > > Did you get this one? I got yours. > > > > ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! > Is anyone out here? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> Behalf Of Carl McGhee > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Subject: [SEL] E Mails > >> > >> > >> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is > >> anyone else having problems. > >> > >> Carl McGhee > >> Battle Creek, Mi From mcghee9 at comcast.net Wed Apr 9 12:17:47 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:17:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails References: Message-ID: <001001c89a76$65d49c30$0302a8c0@Carl> Eldon, Loud and clear. I was having problems with my computer and thought maybe I screwed it up more. Carl McGhee Battle Creek, Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] E Mails > Carl: > > Did you get this one? I got yours. > > ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? > > Take care - Elden > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Carl McGhee >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] E Mails >> >> >> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is >> anyone else having problems. >> >> Carl McGhee >> Battle Creek, Mi > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 13:02:55 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:02:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47FD20EF.1010602@gmail.com> G'day Russell, You just got me, looking down at my Buzacott and Lightning (Rosebery's) in photo 45. I nearly doubled your distance traveled. :-) Al Clarence Valley NSW Oz Russell Gilbert wrote: > G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to > wagga for the weekend. The girls spent most of the time shopping > while the boys played engines. 580km each way trip for us and all > went well. We spent plenty of time with fellow Sel folk. The Wagga > engine Rally was a little quiet but none the less we enjoyed > ourselves. I have put some pic's up on my webshot. > > enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM > > regards Russell > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Apr 9 14:40:21 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:40:21 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: GREAT mornin' fix, Russell!! Put'er on slideshow, sit back and let the good times roll. Thanks much!! RickinMt. > > enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM From jbcast at charter.net Wed Apr 9 17:23:17 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:23:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our spring kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are antique. Have a look. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA. From kimmell at verizon.net Wed Apr 9 19:49:08 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:49:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: References: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <0JZ300LW794T3420@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hello? Hello, McFly??? Yeah the weather this last weekend was supreme. I have Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays off so I take every oppertunity I can to get outside. I didn't get on the computer much other than to look at the weather forecast for the next day... Too busy washing and waxing the vehicles, cleaning out the garage and getting the boat ready for some lake/river action! Oh yea, it's spring baby!!! -Tony At 10:41 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: >Carl: > >Did you get this one? I got yours. > >............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? > >Take care - Elden From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Apr 9 21:15:34 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:15:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <20080410041520.JXIZ14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Thanks for the pics Russell. I would have liked to have been there :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to wagga for the weekend. The girls spent most of the time shopping while the boys played engines. 580km each way trip for us and all went well. We spent plenty of time with fellow Sel folk. The Wagga engine Rally was a little quiet but none the less we enjoyed ourselves. I have put some pic's up on my webshot. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM regards Russell From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 10 03:43:49 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:43:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff References: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> Message-ID: <000c01c89af7$c32af0b0$726f4b47@mikecomp> JB it looks like you fellas were having too much fun! Graet shots of some beauties in action. Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff > > There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our > spring kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are > antique. Have a look. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 06:27:02 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:27:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer Message-ID: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> At one time there was somebody making reproduction Lunkenheimer mixers. Does anybody know who this was and how to contact them? Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. replace nomore with net to send mail jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Thu Apr 10 14:21:14 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:21:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000f01c89b50$cf061370$6d123a50$@com.au> Thanks Russell they are great. Cheers Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:40 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to wagga for the weekend. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Apr 10 16:01:22 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD? In-Reply-To: References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com> <47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <47FE9C42.3020801@scrtc.com> Ed, Just thought I would drop you a note to let you know the roller is sitting here at my house. Thanks for your offer of help! Hopefully I can return the favor to you. This thing is heavy! I bet it weighs close to a ton so I don't know if it could be hauled in a pickup or not. Thanks again!! Tommy Edward Tabor wrote: >Have you found somebody? I'm going to Annapolis this week. My number is >443-309-2877. If something needs transported I could arrange to get it to >Coolspring. (Believe Paul Gray attends.) > >Ed >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:30 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD? > > > > >>Thanks Mike! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >> >> >>Michael Tucker wrote: >> >> >> >>>Tommy, >>> >>>I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom >>>(gallowayengine at comcast.net >>>) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from >>>Annapolis. >>> >>>See ya', >>>Mike >>> >>>On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD? Anyone on >>>>the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring? >>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>______________________ >>>Michael Tucker >>>oldironnut at alltel.net >>>Versailles, Kentucky, USA >>>______________________ >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 10 16:51:48 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:51:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer Message-ID: Jim, A couple of years ago, I got a new repro lunkenheimer in a box of junk from a deceased collector. It was made by Larry Riley 118 S. Roby Drive Anderson, Ind. The shipping date on the box was 1981. I made a comment about it on this list and someone said he was still in business, but I have no first hand information. Hope this will be of some help. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Apr 10 18:12:21 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:12:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> References: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> Message-ID: <1207876341.47febaf596c9e@webmail.city-net.com> Damn JB, you folks look like you're having so much fun it must be illegal. Thaks for putting those up. See ya, Arnie PS - Wot's with the jackets? Cold snap down to 73? 8-)) Quoting jbcast at charter.net: > There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our > spring kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are > antique. Have a look. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA. From kimmell at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 20:29:36 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:29:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <4450.12.223.26.26.1207751403.squirrel@www.antique-engines. com> References: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> <4450.12.223.26.26.1207751403.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <0JZ5000XV5O9WZN1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Bill, I get in trouble when I get too cozy in my garage. I put in a sink, refrigerator, phone, cable TV and DSL connection. The wife gets mad and says with all that stuff out there, I'll never come back inside. I always laugh and say "Yeah, what's your point??" -Tony At 09:30 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: >Next week when the electrician comes to wire the new shop, he's going to >run network and cable in the trench, too........... >(covers my butt in case Barbara gets mad, I'll have computer and TV) From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Apr 10 23:41:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:41:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: Hi Russell L. Gilbert Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even safer place for you to buy and sell. These changes will be introduced in two stages: From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as currently permitted payment methods. From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. just my 2 cents worth, regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From page at velocitynet.com.au Fri Apr 11 00:35:08 2008 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:35:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000301c89ba6$91543330$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hi Russell Haven't received this from Ebay. But then I don't sell much. Maybe you should go to them direct and put your concerns. You might also consider Oztion for sales in OZ at least. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 4:42 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] ot ebay G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: Hi Russell L. Gilbert Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even safer place for you to buy and sell. These changes will be introduced in two stages: From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as currently permitted payment methods. From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. just my 2 cents worth, regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 30/12/2007 11:27 AM From astfgl at iamnota.org Fri Apr 11 00:37:13 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:37:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47FF1529.4080603@iamnota.org> Yep, that's been going around most of the news sites today. It looks like AU is the testbed, with the UK starting shortly after. No news yet about other countries. There's been noises about complaints to the ACCC(and other competition and regulatory bodies), but it's impossible to believe that ebay would announce this without a solid legal footing. They are not a financial institution(with the associated regulations), and can dictate terms of use of their service to a large extent. A similar situation which springs to mind is the use of the virtual precious metal coinage in online roleplaying games - they don't allow exchanges of "real" money inside the game, but you can add or remove money through their account system. Real-world items can be bought in some games with the virual money, too. Of course I'm not a lawer, so it's always possible that this move will be blocked somehow. Each country's laws are different, so this move may be possible in some places, but not others. My two cents: For buyers it's not a bad idea, as the paypal system is tied into the auction system and payment is easily proven, something that is not possible with direct deposit, cheques, etc. For sellers, it prevents fraud but makes them to pay up to 2.4% of the sale price as a transaction fee. That might be a problem for sellers with small margins, but it's across the board so no seller is disadvantaged. The question of whether paypal *deserves* that cut is another matter. :-) One recurring complaint from sellers is that money has been refunded(for whatever reason) from their account. Why they leave money in their account where paypal can get at it, I don't know. Lazyness springs to mind. I mean, come on. It's MONEY! Keep it in a regulated financial institution, for goodness sake. As a buyer, what I've done is to get a second Visa debit card from my credit union, with it's own account. My ebay account is tied to the Visa card. When I make a purchase, I transfer only the required amount and put through the payment. If a charge is made without my premission, it fails at the Visa level with no penalty to me. There's a rumour, unconfirmed, that paypal might disallow credit cards as payment methods and require a bank account to be attached. The same method of dealing with it applies, have a separate account and leave it empty with "zero overdraw". As I said, that one's unconfirmed, and I doubt it'll happen. That *might* cut into their customer base. Anyhow, that's my take as a buyer. If some more sellers want to chine in with their experiences and opinions, I'd appreciate it - I'll trust the views from people here more than the average /. poster. Later, glen. Russell Gilbert wrote: > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > just my 2 cents worth, > regards Russell > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Apr 11 00:39:13 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:39:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: [SEL] ot ebay > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from > ebay: > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > just my 2 cents worth, > regards Russell > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Fri Apr 11 04:18:20 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:18:20 +0000 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff Message-ID: <041120081118.23733.47FF48FC000A3D9D00005CB5219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Looks like a great time JB, some really nice pics. Is pic #65 a model R&V, if so did you get that as a kit from "Rocky"? thanks, Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:27:29 +0000 > > There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our spring > kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are antique. Have a > look. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 00:56:39 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:56:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <47FF19B7.8090300@gmail.com> I'll go first, or second, if Reg is first. I'll not buy off eBay until the waters clear. Al Harris Oz R & M Ingold wrote: > E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. > If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell Gilbert" > To: "SEL" > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:41 PM > Subject: [SEL] ot ebay > > >> G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from >> ebay: >> >> Hi Russell L. Gilbert >> Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some >> changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even >> safer place for you to buy and sell. >> >> These changes will be introduced in two stages: >> >> From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as >> currently permitted payment methods. >> >> From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings >> and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). >> >> I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of >> the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna >> let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our >> concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to >> fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I >> don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out >> of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. >> just my 2 cents worth, >> regards Russell >> Russell Gilbert >> Sunny Sunraysia >> russell at ncable.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Apr 11 05:33:43 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:33:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au><00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <47FF19B7.8090300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Harris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > I'll go first, or second, if Reg is first. > > I'll not buy off eBay until the waters clear. > > Al Harris > Oz > > R & M Ingold wrote: >> E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. >> If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... >> Reg & Marg Ingold. >> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Russell Gilbert" >> To: "SEL" >> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:41 PM >> Subject: [SEL] ot ebay >> >> >>> G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from >>> ebay: >>> >>> Hi Russell L. Gilbert >>> Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some >>> changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even >>> safer place for you to buy and sell. >>> >>> These changes will be introduced in two stages: >>> >>> From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as >>> currently permitted payment methods. >>> >>> From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings >>> and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). >>> >>> I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of >>> the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna >>> let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our >>> concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to >>> fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I >>> don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out >>> of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. >>> just my 2 cents worth, >>> regards Russell >>> Russell Gilbert >>> Sunny Sunraysia >>> russell at ncable.com.au >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 05:51:51 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:51:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au><00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <47FF19B7.8090300@gmail.com> <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <47FF5EE7.6090800@gmail.com> Then you can't claim to be a "we" who can say "enough", can you. :-P Al Harris Oz R & M Ingold wrote: > Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! > I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > > >> I'll go first, or second, if Reg is first. >> >> I'll not buy off eBay until the waters clear. >> >> Al Harris >> Oz >> >> R & M Ingold wrote: >>> E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. >>> If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... >>> Reg & Marg Ingold. >>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Fri Apr 11 06:08:05 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:08:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Hey yall I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea of "instant money." Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.12/1372 - Release Date: 4/10/2008 5:36 PM From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Apr 11 06:40:04 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:40:04 -0600 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay References: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: I agree Lew..In 250+ buying transactions, I've only had one small problem and we worked it out quick. Mostly items that go with the old engines. I purchased hand hole gaskets for our boiler a while back using PP. I really like it...and as you say...over and done with. Regarding the OT ebay....I've heard they will never send you an email...scam comes to mind and I just delete them when they show up. If ebay wants to communicate with you..you will get a message alert on your ebay summary. "Happy user here in The Big Sky. RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Best" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > Hey yall > > I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've > bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands > down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea > of "instant money." > > Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but > Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct > deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would > probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the > advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or > less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; > anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to > go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal > or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a > check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can > also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." > > I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff > that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit > card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or > selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. > > Lew near Waco, TX > > -----Original Message----- > > Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! > I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.12/1372 - Release Date: > 4/10/2008 5:36 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 07:25:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:25:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, Lew Best wrote: > Hey yall > > I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've > bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands > down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea > of "instant money." > > Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but > Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct > deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would > probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the > advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or > less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; > anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to > go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal > or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a > check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can > also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." > > I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff > that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit > card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or > selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. > > Lew near Waco, TX > Well, we've been on ebay since 1998, and the thing I least like about this announcement is that it is restricting the choice of payment. Not only that, it is also restricting payment to a service provider that it owns 100%, which is possibly going to fall under "restrictive practices" in some countries. I have no problem with PayPal and use it a lot, but both these companies should be doing it better than they are, and not getting the opinions from users that we are seeing here. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Apr 11 08:10:26 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I don't think I actually ever sent this - at least I never saw it..... Sorry if I did! My wife made this quilt, well, she custom made the blocks for her aunt who actually wanted to assemble and quilt it herself as a gift, but it's something Barbara herself has done, just not THIS particular one...... Anyway, I said, gee, make a couple and I bet you could sell 'em. She said she didn't think so, who'd want to buy one......and no one could afford what it took to make. I said, well, I'll find out which of us is closer. So, that being said, this is mostly OT as far as engines, but if I get me a GOOD design, I could sure digitize it in to her machine...... Take a look and comment, good bad or otherwise. Note that although I call it JD and it's JD colours, it's NOT really styled quite like the JD nuts would say it should be. It's sort of generic in a way. http://dickerson-design.com/images/jd-tractor-quilt.jpg Bill From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 11 08:14:50 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:14:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: References: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080411110254.0347b970@pop3.wcoil.com> I can't argue against the ease of paypal for the buyer and seller, but it always gripes me when some one like ebay comes along and dictates that we do this or that and supposedly for our own good. When in reality its actually THEIR Benefit. Just another way to improve their bottom line and reduce ours. Ebay owns Paypal so its just another money grab. You watch, next thing that will go is sellers to self host pictures. Ebay will force you to use their picture service exclusively. At a modest fee of course. TTYL, Mark At 09:40 AM 4/11/08, you wrote: >I agree Lew..In 250+ buying transactions, I've only had one small problem >and we worked it out quick. Mostly items that go with the old engines. I >purchased hand hole gaskets for our boiler a while back using PP. I really >like it...and as you say...over and done with. > > Regarding the OT ebay....I've heard they will never send you an >email...scam comes to mind and I just delete them when they show up. If >ebay wants to communicate with you..you will get a message alert on your >ebay summary. > >"Happy user here in The Big Sky. >RickinMt. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lew Best" >To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:08 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > > > > Hey yall > > > > I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've > > bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands > > down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea > > of "instant money." > > > > Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but > > Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct > > deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would > > probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the > > advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or > > less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; > > anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to > > go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal > > or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a > > check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can > > also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." > > > > I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff > > that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit > > card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or > > selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. > > > > Lew near Waco, TX > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! > > I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. > > Reg & Marg Ingold. > > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.12/1372 - Release Date: > > 4/10/2008 5:36 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Apr 11 08:27:06 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:27:06 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW><6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: I think it looks GREAT, Bill. Congrats to your wife!! RickinMt. > http://dickerson-design.com/images/jd-tractor-quilt.jpg From FRM8198 at aol.com Fri Apr 11 08:34:17 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:34:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related Message-ID: Bill, Thanks for sharing this with the list. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:16:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bill at antique-engines.com writes: My wife made this quilt, well, she custom made the blocks for her aunt who actually wanted to assemble and quilt it herself as a gift, but it's something Barbara herself has done, just not THIS particular one...... **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From kimmell at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 20:24:33 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:24:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer In-Reply-To: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> References: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <0JZ5005TU56GCN71@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Jim, I believe Brady Baker of Pendleton, IN was either making them or had a large stock of repros for sale. I don't think he's on the list, but he posts on SmokStak once in a while. You may be able to find him over there. -- Tony Kimmell Bloomington, IL At 08:27 AM 4/10/2008, you wrote: >At one time there was somebody making reproduction >Lunkenheimer mixers. Does anybody know who this was and >how to contact them? > >Jim From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Fri Apr 11 10:20:55 2008 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:20:55 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related In-Reply-To: <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <47FF9DF7.8000400@xplornet.com> Hello Bill, The quilt is a great idea. Putting one up for auction with a well known auctioneer should establish what one is worth. Rupert Ps. Good choice of color. Green seems to get bidders going for some reason. > So, that being said, this is mostly OT as far as engines, but if I get me > a GOOD design, I could sure digitize it in to her machine...... > Take a look and comment, good bad or otherwise. > Note that although I call it JD and it's JD colours, it's NOT really > styled quite like the JD nuts would say it should be. It's sort of generic > in a way. > > http://dickerson-design.com/images/jd-tractor-quilt.jpg > > > Bill > > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 05:47:42 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:47:42 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <6f6025160804110547g7dd4ddb2ob9ee3b929bd9c496@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, Russell Gilbert wrote: > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > Looks similar to what has been emailed to UK users, but I cannot see how you can stop people paying by other means, ie cheque etc. Looks like ebay is shooting itself in the foot (again) I stopped selling in significant terms last year when PayPal and Ebay lost my CC details, then tried to collect from a 3-year old CC number. They complained that I had breached their trading terms by not paying! Idiots!! They said that Amex had declined my card, but actually Amex had not declined anything, they just refused to handle an out of date CC number. Never had a response from them about it, despite lots of messages and emails. Now I just buy a few bits and sell a few bits, but the days of serious buying and selling on ebay are over for me. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Apr 11 11:33:41 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:33:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> G'day Russell, One comment... The use of PayPal does not have to cost you a fee. I have a Personal PayPal account wherein I can send and receive money and it doesn't cost me a dime. The only limitation that impacts my eBay selling is that a buyer can't pay me using a credit card; it has to be money from his PayPal account balance or from his bank account via PayPal. I describe that in my ads and also state that other conventional forms of payment are acceptable (cash, check, money order, gold, etc.). Occasionally I get a mouth-breather who can't read and I have to reject his credit card PayPal payment (since I refuse to upgrade my PayPal account). But that's pretty rare. One really interesting website to visit in getting more background on PayPal is NoPayPal. http://www.paypalsucks.com/ Enjoy! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com Quoting Russell Gilbert : > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from > ebay: > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > just my 2 cents worth, From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 12:48:33 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:48:33 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > G'day Russell, > > One comment... The use of PayPal does not have to cost you a fee. > > I have a Personal PayPal account wherein I can send and receive money and it > doesn't cost me a dime. The only limitation that impacts my eBay selling is > that a buyer can't pay me using a credit card; it has to be money from his > PayPal account balance or from his bank account via PayPal. I describe that in > my ads and also state that other conventional forms of payment are acceptable > (cash, check, money order, gold, etc.). Arnie: Correct me if I am wrong (you will anyway!) but as I understand it, the recipient of the money coming through PayPal pays the charges, whatever the source of the money in the first place? Therefore, you will not pay the charges when paying, but you will when receiving money for something you have sold. I don't think there is any transaction within PayPal that is free of any charges. Happy to be corrected on that one. See you at Neunen :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From andyglines at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 12:01:19 2008 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:01:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Oiler_Gaskets?= Message-ID: I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass. _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Apr 11 13:54:26 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:54:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Peter, Correction happily provided. 8-)) https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/User/popup/ChoosingAccountTypeSignup-outside#personal Utterly, totally, and completely FREE. Both to send and to receive funds. But, as I said, no credit cards. Go forth and buy and sell without PayPal fees. It can be done. 8-)) See ya, Arnie PS - That's the case for the US version of PayPal anyway. I can't swear that its the same flavor in all other countries. Perhaps others can check their local PayPal and do a copy & paste of the details of the Personal PayPal account (if it's different than the above). Also if, when you follow the link above, you don't see "totally free" words, let me know and I'll do a screen shot. PPS - Less than a month till Neunen!! I can't wait! Quoting Listerdiesel : > Correct me if I am wrong (you will anyway!) but as I understand it, > the recipient of the money coming through PayPal pays the charges, > whatever the source of the money in the first place? > > Therefore, you will not pay the charges when paying, but you will when > receiving money for something you have sold. > > I don't think there is any transaction within PayPal that is free of > any charges. > > Happy to be corrected on that one. > > See you at Neunen :-)) From kkinney at herculesengines.com Fri Apr 11 14:05:34 2008 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:05:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A06509A-175E-41C8-862B-D3606AE7327A@herculesengines.com> Andy Get ahold of Hit and Miss Enterprises or Starbolt and give them the diameter of your glass. The will have cork gaskets to fit. Keith On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Andy Glines wrote: > > I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler > was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets > using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks > so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. > I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the > oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass. > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live > Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From glenn.karch at att.net Fri Apr 11 14:23:49 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets Message-ID: <306110.26111.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Andy, I have plenty of the thin cork gasket material to make any size oiler gaskets. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Glines To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:01:19 PM Subject: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass. _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 15:04:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:04:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <6f6025160804111504i407597d3pacd45f91c8fc59fc@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, Russell Gilbert wrote: > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: > This is the current ebay UK payments advice: http://web.ebay.co.uk/businesshub/index.php?page=safe_payments also have a look at the PayPal accepted payments methods in different countries (you need to be logged in to see that IIRC) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 14:47:29 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:47:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Correction happily provided. 8-)) > > https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/User/popup/ChoosingAccountTypeSignup-outside#personal > > Utterly, totally, and completely FREE. Both to send and to receive funds. > But, as I said, no credit cards. > > Go forth and buy and sell without PayPal fees. It can be done. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - That's the case for the US version of PayPal anyway. I can't swear that > its the same flavor in all other countries. Perhaps others can check their > local PayPal and do a copy & paste of the details of the Personal PayPal > account (if it's different than the above). Also if, when you follow the link > above, you don't see "totally free" words, let me know and I'll do a screen > shot. > > PPS - Less than a month till Neunen!! I can't wait! Got that, thanks. As mine is a premier account I don't have the 'benefits' of zero charges, but I think it is probably balanced by the extra freedom you have to take payments from CC's. I hadn't noticed that before, thanks for the heads-up. Looking at the Transaction Limitations for Personal Accounts, how does that affect you? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From MBellar at aol.com Fri Apr 11 16:24:53 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:24:53 EDT Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer Message-ID: Jim; I picked up a flyer at Portland a few years ago (3?) for 1/2 inch to 11/4 Lunkenheimer reproduction cast brass fuel mixers produced since 1980 by Musky Machine. The address on the flier is Corey Bell 2626 Overcrest Lane Sapula, OK 74066 918-227-4407 e-mail _BMW-Enginenut at msn.com_ (mailto:BMW-Enginenut at msn.com) , I sent him an e-mail about a year ago concerning a 3/4 inch mixer and got no response. I did purchase a used part for a Geo. Miller mixer when I was at Portland and he promptly sent it to me after the show. I hope this helps. Tom Bellar SW Ohio **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 11 16:40:07 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:40:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really need to have. Russell At 04:33 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: >G'day Russell, > >One comment... The use of PayPal does not have to cost you a fee. > >I have a Personal PayPal account wherein I can send and receive money and it >doesn't cost me a dime. The only limitation that impacts my eBay selling is >that a buyer can't pay me using a credit card; it has to be money from his >PayPal account balance or from his bank account via PayPal. I >describe that in >my ads and also state that other conventional forms of payment are acceptable >(cash, check, money order, gold, etc.). > >Occasionally I get a mouth-breather who can't read and I have to reject his >credit card PayPal payment (since I refuse to upgrade my PayPal account). But >that's pretty rare. > >One really interesting website to visit in getting more background >on PayPal is >NoPayPal. http://www.paypalsucks.com/ Enjoy! > >See ya, Arnie > >Arnie Fero >Pittsburgh, PA >fero_ah at city-net.com > >Quoting Russell Gilbert : > > > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from > > ebay: > > > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > > currently permitted payment methods. > > > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > > just my 2 cents worth, > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 11 16:46:59 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:46:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer References: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <00af01c89c2e$5663f840$0c01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Corey Bell made a pile of em in every size . 918-227-4407 From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 11 16:57:03 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:57:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW><6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <012601c89c2f$be49c240$0c01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I could never use white on my bed , it shows grease too easily . From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 17:04:56 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:04:56 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> Russell Gilbert wrote: > Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on > ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments > excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the > bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing > transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like > Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. > > At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really > need to have. > Russell I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) Al Clarence Coast Oz From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 11 17:24:25 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:24:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> Al I'm always happy to entertain a fellow engine man! You would have turned your trip into a trek had you followed though. At 10:04 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: >Russell Gilbert wrote: > > Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on > > ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments > > excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the > > bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing > > transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like > > Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. > > > > At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really > > need to have. > > Russell > >I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) > >Al >Clarence Coast >Oz >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 17:38:51 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:38:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4800049B.9030300@gmail.com> Rusty, the temptation is *always* there. My *trek* though, took 6.5 years, through all states and territories. Sunraysia would have just been a *shakedown*. :-) BTW have you got any 1.5hp FMZ-A governor gear in amongst your superfluous stuff? Al Russell Gilbert wrote: > Al I'm always happy to entertain a fellow engine man! You would have > turned your trip into a trek had you followed though. > > At 10:04 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: > > >> Russell Gilbert wrote: >>> Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on >>> ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments >>> excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the >>> bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing >>> transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like >>> Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. >>> >>> At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really >>> need to have. >>> Russell >> I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) >> >> Al >> Clarence Coast >> Oz From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 11 18:01:02 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:01:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <4800049B.9030300@gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> <4800049B.9030300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412105916.022a8520@ncable.com.au> Sorry Al, I don't have any FMZ stuff at all. Saying that I am after the trip assembly gear and carbie for a 2hp jack of all trades?? Just in case you have a spare in you back pocket! Russell At 10:38 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: >Rusty, the temptation is *always* there. My *trek* though, >took 6.5 years, through all states and territories. Sunraysia >would have just been a *shakedown*. :-) > >BTW have you got any 1.5hp FMZ-A governor gear in amongst your >superfluous stuff? > >Al > >Russell Gilbert wrote: > > Al I'm always happy to entertain a fellow engine man! You would have > > turned your trip into a trek had you followed though. > > > > At 10:04 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: > > > > > >> Russell Gilbert wrote: > >>> Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on > >>> ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments > >>> excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the > >>> bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing > >>> transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like > >>> Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. > >>> > >>> At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really > >>> need to have. > >>> Russell > > >> I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) > >> > >> Al > >> Clarence Coast > >> Oz >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 12 11:03:02 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:03:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208023382.4800f956cccb0@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Peter, Since I was unaware that there WERE any "transaction limitations", I'd have to say they don't limit me in any way. What limitations (other than credit card payments which I don't care about) were you referring to? See ya, Arnie Quoting Listerdiesel : > Looking at the Transaction Limitations for Personal Accounts, how does > that affect you? From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 12 11:18:52 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:18:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction Message-ID: <000601c89cc9$a9b37890$b8e56d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi Guy's, Did anyone attend this auction?, if so did they take note of the prices? I would have liked to be there but the 3500 miles of water between there an Scotland make it kind of difficult Thanks , Craig in a rather damp Scotland. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 12 16:32:02 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:32:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO Message-ID: <48014672.3080005@scrtc.com> Does anyone have a contact phone number for Joe Winters of Richards, MO? From glenn.karch at att.net Sat Apr 12 17:05:01 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction Message-ID: <38484.3847.qm@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> CRaig and others, Here are the Bill Miller estate engine prices. These engines were essentially complete and runnable. Most had the "as is" finish on them. 1 HP Reeves $3100; 2 1/2 HP Perkins hopper cooled $2600; 3 HP vertical Famous $3750; 2 1/2 HP hopper Famous $2500; 2 1/2 HP Aermotor $5250; 8 cycle Aermotor $1200; 1 1/2 HP air cool Waterloo $1600; 2 1/2 HP Christesen $8200; 1 1/2 HP Early Econoomy $750; 5 HP E Economy $1100; 2 HP Flint & Walling $2400; 1 1/2 HP Jaeger (Hercules paint) $600; 1 1/2 HP Hercules $700; 2 1/2 HP Jacobson sideshaft $6700; 1 1/2 HP LaCrosse $3200; 2 1/2 HP LaCrosse $2300; 1 HP Reeves $4500; 1 1/2 HP Assoc Johnny Boy $1900; 1 HP Perkins $2800; 1 1/2 HP Sover K $700; 2 HP Reeves $3500; 2 1/2 HP Warerloo built $900; 2 HP Gould Shapley & Muir $750; Most of these engines were on some kind of homemade cart. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: craig morrison To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:18:52 PM Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction Hi Guy's, Did anyone attend this auction?, if so did they take note of the prices? I would have liked to be there but the 3500 miles of water between there an Scotland make it kind of difficult Thanks , Craig in a rather damp Scotland. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 12:27:51 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:27:51 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1208023382.4800f956cccb0@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> <1208023382.4800f956cccb0@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804121227i4d5327eep913627e81819039e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/04/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Since I was unaware that there WERE any "transaction limitations", I'd have to > say they don't limit me in any way. What limitations (other than credit card > payments which I don't care about) were you referring to? > > See ya, Arnie > It's something that comes under EU legislation, so you probably don't see it in the USA. It has to do with money laundering within the EU, and requires verifying your details and location to have it removed. I think all of our family accounts went through the process this year, had mine done a few years back as well. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 12 17:35:36 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:35:36 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction References: <38484.3847.qm@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c89cfe$4a807d20$eb5b8bd4@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Thanks Glenn , very much appreciated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Karch" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction > CRaig and others, > > Here are the Bill Miller estate engine prices. These engines were > essentially complete and runnable. Most had the "as is" finish on them. > > 1 HP Reeves $3100; 2 1/2 HP Perkins hopper cooled $2600; 3 HP vertical > Famous $3750; 2 1/2 HP hopper Famous $2500; 2 1/2 HP Aermotor $5250; > 8 cycle Aermotor $1200; 1 1/2 HP air cool Waterloo $1600; 2 1/2 HP > Christesen $8200; 1 1/2 HP Early Econoomy $750; 5 HP E Economy $1100; > 2 HP Flint & Walling $2400; 1 1/2 HP Jaeger (Hercules paint) $600; 1 1/2 > HP Hercules $700; 2 1/2 HP Jacobson sideshaft $6700; 1 1/2 HP LaCrosse > $3200; 2 1/2 HP LaCrosse $2300; > 1 HP Reeves $4500; 1 1/2 HP Assoc Johnny Boy $1900; 1 HP Perkins $2800; > 1 1/2 HP Sover K $700; 2 HP Reeves $3500; 2 1/2 HP Warerloo built $900; > 2 HP Gould Shapley & Muir $750; > > Most of these engines were on some kind of homemade cart. > > Glenn > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: craig morrison > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:18:52 PM > Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction > > Hi Guy's, > Did anyone attend this auction?, if so did they take note of > the prices? I would have liked to be there but the 3500 miles of water > between there an Scotland make it kind of difficult > > Thanks , Craig in a rather damp Scotland. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: > 12/04/2008 11:32 > > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Apr 12 20:34:56 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:34:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO Message-ID: <16670383.1208057696413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Tommy, I might see him tomorrow. He usually shows up at our clubs swap meet and that is tomorrow. If so, I will get his contact info for you. Tim Christoff Basehor, KS. -----Original Message----- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Sent: Apr 12, 2008 4:32 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO > >Does anyone have a contact phone number for Joe Winters of Richards, MO? >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 12 21:41:57 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:41:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO In-Reply-To: <16670383.1208057696413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <16670383.1208057696413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <48018F15.20109@scrtc.com> Thanks Tim. I had a person send me his phone number but if you see him, please tell him I'll be in touch with him soon. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Tim Christoff wrote: >Tommy, I might see him tomorrow. He usually shows up at our clubs swap meet and that is tomorrow. If so, I will get his contact info for you. > >Tim Christoff >Basehor, KS. > > >-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Judge Tommy Turner >>Sent: Apr 12, 2008 4:32 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO >> >>Does anyone have a contact phone number for Joe Winters of Richards, MO? >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sun Apr 13 18:23:50 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:23:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now Message-ID: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Hey gang I have a little Case 646 (garden tractor with FEL) that I was using today to try pulling some old T-posts. I was standing beside the tractor & one just tried to tip the tractor up (definitely needs more rear weight). Sooooo I tried sitting on the seat & it pulled the post easily. Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) Lew near Waco, TX No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM From johnculp at btes.tv Sun Apr 13 18:43:55 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:43:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now In-Reply-To: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> References: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: > Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) I need a tractor. I'm otherwise qualified. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From rotigel at alltel.net Mon Apr 14 06:11:10 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:11:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now In-Reply-To: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> References: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: <7756B24F-DFC2-408E-982B-DBE9DCB65ADF@alltel.net> Hi Lew, We all tent to move to the DARK SIDE every now and then. If no one saw you sitting on the tractor it's best to just keep it to yourself and hope that no one finds out! Dave On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Lew Best wrote: > Hey gang > > I have a little Case 646 (garden tractor with FEL) that I was using > today to try pulling some old T-posts. I was standing beside the > tractor & one just tried to tip the tractor up (definitely needs more > rear weight). Sooooo I tried sitting on the seat & it pulled the post > easily. Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) > > Lew near Waco, TX From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Mon Apr 14 06:16:07 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:16:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now In-Reply-To: <7756B24F-DFC2-408E-982B-DBE9DCB65ADF@alltel.net> Message-ID: <200804141315.m3EDFlo4030896@mail804.megamailservers.com> Oh well; guess it's just middle age spread. :) Lew -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:11 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: at at lists.antique-tractor.com Subject: Re: [SEL] guess it's official now Hi Lew, We all tent to move to the DARK SIDE every now and then. If no one saw you sitting on the tractor it's best to just keep it to yourself and hope that no one finds out! Dave On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Lew Best wrote: > Hey gang > > I have a little Case 646 (garden tractor with FEL) that I was using > today to try pulling some old T-posts. I was standing beside the > tractor & one just tried to tip the tractor up (definitely needs more > rear weight). Sooooo I tried sitting on the seat & it pulled the post > easily. Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) > > Lew near Waco, TX _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM From jbcast at charter.net Mon Apr 14 18:37:50 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:37:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: <1207876341.47febaf596c9e@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20080414213750.LNJ0M.26000.root@fepweb07> ---- fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Damn JB, you folks look like you're having so much fun it must be illegal. > Thaks for putting those up. > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - Wot's with the jackets? Cold snap down to 73? 8-)) > It was a great day Arnie, and one member was stopped by the water patrol, illegal but let go with a warning. I think it was because he had two New Yorkers and a Canadian with him. About the jackets, it was a cold day, started at 65 degrees, only got up to 74. Funny thing is the Northerners all had jackets on. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html From jbcast at charter.net Mon Apr 14 18:39:17 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:39:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff Message-ID: <20080414213917.TW62S.26041.root@fepweb07> ---- fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Damn JB, you folks look like you're having so much fun it must be illegal. > Thaks for putting those up. > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - Wot's with the jackets? Cold snap down to 73? 8-)) > It was a great day Arnie, and one member was stopped by the water patrol, illegal but let go with a warning. I think it was because he had two New Yorkers and a Canadian with him. About the jackets, it was a cold day, started at 65 degrees, only got up to 74. Funny thing is the Northerners all had jackets on. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html From jbcast at charter.net Mon Apr 14 18:44:44 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:44:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: <041120081118.23733.47FF48FC000A3D9D00005CB5219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20080414214444.SXO1F.26206.root@fepweb07> ---- cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Looks like a great time JB, some really nice pics. Is pic #65 a model R&V, > if so did you get that as a kit from "Rocky"? > thanks, > Curt Andree Curt, the RV model was built by a good friend, Paul LeBeoufe. He started doing machine work when he retired from his tugboat business, does first class work, don't know where he bought the kit. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html From k_armstrong at arach.net.au Tue Apr 15 06:02:23 2008 From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:02:23 +0800 Subject: [SEL] BROOKTON SHOW 2008 Message-ID: <00c501c89ef8$f24b7a90$f301a8c0@armstrong> The Brookton show had a 100years of the "T" Ford, there were plenty there, I took my Manchester Truck 1928, Willys Overland 1926, McDonald SE, CF Ronaldson Tippet, EDC Southern Cross, D2 5U Caterpillar Tractor. Have a look . http://www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong/BROOKTON%202008.htm Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong Collectors of old things Perth WA Australia Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member V.C.C. of WA. member k_armstrong at arach.net.au www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Tue Apr 15 07:40:55 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:40:55 +0800 Subject: [SEL] BROOKTON SHOW 2008 In-Reply-To: <00c501c89ef8$f24b7a90$f301a8c0@armstrong> References: <00c501c89ef8$f24b7a90$f301a8c0@armstrong> Message-ID: <4804BE77.5000001@optusnet.com.au> kevin armstrong wrote: > The Brookton show had a 100years of the "T" Ford, there were plenty there, I took my Manchester Truck 1928, Willys Overland 1926, McDonald SE, CF Ronaldson Tippet, EDC Southern Cross, D2 5U Caterpillar Tractor. > > Have a look . http://www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong/BROOKTON%202008.htm > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong > Collectors of old things > Perth > WA > Australia === Hi Kevin Yes, Brookton was a great show. I was with the Machinery Preservation Club. I took my 1956 L.E. Velocette "Noddy Bike" and rode it, complete with my Bobby's helmet, in the Grande Parade. I was also very interested in the little gas producer, running a small petrol engine on charcoal. JW? === From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Apr 15 09:14:36 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:14:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool Message-ID: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya Folks, Now THIS is one clever gadget!! (be sure to watch the commercials!) http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm See ya, Arnie From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Apr 15 09:36:15 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:36:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4804D97F.3050907@scrtc.com> Arnie, Wow, a simple invention that will make the guy a millionaire several times over I'm sure. Great commercial too!! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hiya Folks, > >Now THIS is one clever gadget!! >(be sure to watch the commercials!) > >http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > >See ya, Arnie > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From tsmith at hal-pc.org Tue Apr 15 09:53:16 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:53:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Whoa! What gadget? > (be sure to watch the commercials!) From timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com Wed Apr 16 07:11:16 2008 From: timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com (Brandon Newton) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:11:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Message-ID: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real thing and have pictures for anyone who may be able to help. thanks in advance. Brandon From jopeter at omninet.net.au Wed Apr 16 16:21:56 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:21:56 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <003801c8a018$aeaad670$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3> Of course it relies on Friction.....some oil companies tell that they are eliminating Friction ,what then? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stationary Engine List" ; "Old_Engine" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:14 AM Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool > Hiya Folks, > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Apr 16 17:41:28 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:41:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool Message-ID: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> I just looked at this "Clever Gadget" and saw that it resembles a like tool used for years in the carpet industry to pull up glue down carpet. See http://www.toolsforfloors.com/proddetails.asp And at $24 - a lot cheaper. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:21:56 +0800 "peter ogborne" writes: > Of course it relies on Friction.....some oil companies tell that they > are > eliminating Friction ,what then? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Stationary Engine List" ; > "Old_Engine" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:14 AM > Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool > > > > Hiya Folks, > > > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 16 17:45:18 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:45:18 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <48069D9E.2080409@optusnet.com.au> fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hiya Folks, > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > See ya, Arnie === Anyone notice her beautiful finger nails? JW? === From sndakitto at activ8.net.au Thu Apr 17 00:42:15 2008 From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au (Steven N Kitto) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:42:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <000c01c8a05e$91ce5e50$b56b1af0$@net.au> I have something similar to lift auto/truck batteries. One of the best tools I've ever owned Steve Steve and Denise Kitto 95 Coleyville Road Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 Ph 07 54671541 As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jlb94 at juno.com Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2008 10:41 To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Really Clever Tool I just looked at this "Clever Gadget" and saw that it resembles a like tool used for years in the carpet industry to pull up glue down carpet. See http://www.toolsforfloors.com/proddetails.asp And at $24 - a lot cheaper. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:21:56 +0800 "peter ogborne" writes: > Of course it relies on Friction.....some oil companies tell that they > are > eliminating Friction ,what then? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Stationary Engine List" ; > "Old_Engine" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:14 AM > Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool > > > > Hiya Folks, > > > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 01:51:07 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:51:07 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home Message-ID: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx. Picked it up yesterday from a farm outside Stafford, took a few pic's: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red1.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red2.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red3.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red4.jpg "Red" in the filename is for "Reduced Size", not the colour of the Onan :-)) Needs a starting handle (but it also has electric start) and that pattern on the head is welding of a frosted area. If anyone has a starting handle spare, or can loan one for a pattern, let me know please? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jmackess at twcny.rr.com Thu Apr 17 07:06:40 2008 From: jmackess at twcny.rr.com (James Mackessy) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> Message-ID: <000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> Hello Brandon; I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about where people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck on your research! Jim Mackessy Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Newton" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real thing and have pictures for anyone who may be able to help. thanks in advance. Brandon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From johnculp at btes.tv Thu Apr 17 06:37:14 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:37:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <000c01c8a05e$91ce5e50$b56b1af0$@net.au> References: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> <000c01c8a05e$91ce5e50$b56b1af0$@net.au> Message-ID: <4d2d00cad01e4fa81c7b65bd9070878b@btes.tv> I don't think she looks like she could lift a big truck battery. John On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Steven N Kitto wrote: > I have something similar to lift auto/truck batteries. One of the best > tools > I've ever owned > Steve John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com Thu Apr 17 08:40:52 2008 From: timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com (Brandon Newton) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:40:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Message-ID: <8ED69E35F611459EB91CEDDD20D4784C.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> thanks Jim..very helpfull info.. Brandon Newton 1436 Candlewood Street Fredericksburg Va 22407 www.timbernewtoninteriors.com ----- Original Message ----- From: James Mackessy [mailto:jmackess at twcny.rr.com] To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Hello Brandon; I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about where people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck on your research! Jim Mackessy Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Newton" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real thing and have pictures for anyone who may be able to help. thanks in advance. Brandon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Apr 17 07:46:36 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:46:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> <000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> Message-ID: <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the saying originates from. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mackessy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > Hello Brandon; > I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the > "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on > "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words > "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah > McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were > displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of > research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about > where > people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck > on your research! > Jim Mackessy > Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brandon Newton" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM > Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > > Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real > thing and have pictures for anyone > who may be able to help. > thanks in advance. > > > Brandon > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu Apr 17 09:03:07 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:03:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator In-Reply-To: <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> >From the http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ website: "Real McCoy" Of the biographical sketches of Elijah McCoy one finds in books and on the Internet, a good many aim more for inspiration than historical accuracy and rely more on wishful thinking than evidence. The most fanciful writers fantasize that Elijah was the original Real McCoy, who gave rise to the expression that means "the genuine article." According to the fantasy, locomotive and factory machine operators demanded "real" McCoy products, preferring them to the pieces of junk hawked by less able competitors who could do no better than copy McCoy's creations. While the details of the story vary somewhat depending on the source, one thing that remains constant is a lack of evidence to back it all up. Never do the storytellers offer any concrete information that establishes a credible link between Elijah McCoy and the "Real" nickname. Extreme claims about McCoy lubricators dominating the market or becoming the industry-wide standard go unsubstantiated as well; such McCoy-centric historical views do not mesh with other, more reliable accounts of lubricator development.[8] Slang dictionaries and other linguistic publications do not support the notion of Elijah McCoy being the "real" one.[9] Most of them, after discussing one or more competing theories about how the phrase began (involving either a famous boxer, a clan chieftain, a cattle baron, a Prohibition-era rumrunner, a family feud, pure heroin from Macao, or an old Irish ballad) reach a conclusion similar to that of the Oxford English Dictionary, which says "Its origin remains uncertain." Although the ultimate source of Real McCoy may never be known, we can at least trace back early forms of the expression to Scotland years before Elijah McCoy began plying his trade. The Scottish National Dictionary presents an example from 1856: "A drappie o' the real McKay," meaning a drop of genuine Scotch whiskey.[10] The dictionary also says, "The phrase ['real Mackay'] was adopted as an advertising slogan by Messrs. G. Mackay and Co., whisky distillers of Edinburgh, in 1870 and must have been already current by that date." Variant spellings included Mackay, McCoy, and McKie (all equivalent to the Gaelic MacAoidh), with real McCoy eventually becoming the standard American form. Whether one or more specific persons named McCoy helped popularize the phrase or influence its spelling remains speculative. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:47 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the saying originates from. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mackessy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > Hello Brandon; > I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the > "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on > "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words > "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah > McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were > displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of > research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about > where > people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck > on your research! > Jim Mackessy > Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brandon Newton" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM > Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > > Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real > thing and have pictures for anyone > who may be able to help. > thanks in advance. > > > Brandon > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > ---- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 17 09:39:36 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:39:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> Message-ID: <004101c8a0a9$a054d350$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the saying > originates from. > Rick > >> > > > > I was under the impression that "Real McCoy's " .......weren't . http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ http://www.textbookleague.org/35fake.htm From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Apr 17 10:14:45 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:14:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <48078585.2080009@scrtc.com> Darn, and I thought the Hatfields here in KY came up with it! (..... make sure you shoot at a Real McCoy!). Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >>From the http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ website: > > >"Real McCoy" >Of the biographical sketches of Elijah McCoy one finds in books and on >the Internet, a good many aim more for inspiration than historical >accuracy and rely more on wishful thinking than evidence. The most >fanciful writers fantasize that Elijah was the original Real McCoy, who >gave rise to the expression that means "the genuine article." According >to the fantasy, locomotive and factory machine operators demanded "real" >McCoy products, preferring them to the pieces of junk hawked by less >able competitors who could do no better than copy McCoy's creations. >While the details of the story vary somewhat depending on the source, >one thing that remains constant is a lack of evidence to back it all up. >Never do the storytellers offer any concrete information that >establishes a credible link between Elijah McCoy and the "Real" >nickname. Extreme claims about McCoy lubricators dominating the market >or becoming the industry-wide standard go unsubstantiated as well; such >McCoy-centric historical views do not mesh with other, more reliable >accounts of lubricator development.[8] > >Slang dictionaries and other linguistic publications do not support the >notion of Elijah McCoy being the "real" one.[9] Most of them, after >discussing one or more competing theories about how the phrase began >(involving either a famous boxer, a clan chieftain, a cattle baron, a >Prohibition-era rumrunner, a family feud, pure heroin from Macao, or an >old Irish ballad) reach a conclusion similar to that of the Oxford >English Dictionary, which says "Its origin remains uncertain." > >Although the ultimate source of Real McCoy may never be known, we can at >least trace back early forms of the expression to Scotland years before >Elijah McCoy began plying his trade. The Scottish National Dictionary >presents an example from 1856: "A drappie o' the real McKay," meaning a >drop of genuine Scotch whiskey.[10] The dictionary also says, "The >phrase ['real Mackay'] was adopted as an advertising slogan by Messrs. >G. Mackay and Co., whisky distillers of Edinburgh, in 1870 and must have >been already current by that date." Variant spellings included Mackay, >McCoy, and McKie (all equivalent to the Gaelic MacAoidh), with real >McCoy eventually becoming the standard American form. Whether one or >more specific persons named McCoy helped popularize the phrase or >influence its spelling remains speculative. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick >Rowlands >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:47 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > >Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the >saying >originates from. > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Mackessy" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > > > >>Hello Brandon; >> I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the >>"Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on >>"MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the >> >> >words > > >>"McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah >>McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were >>displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of >>research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about >> >> > > > >>where >>people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good >> >> >luck > > >>on your research! >>Jim Mackessy >>Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Brandon Newton" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM >>Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator >> >> >>Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the >> >> >real > > >>thing and have pictures for anyone >>who may be able to help. >>thanks in advance. >> >> >>Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >---- > > >>---- >> >> >> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From andyglines at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 13:39:34 2008 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:39:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like a nifty little rig. Maybe the piston tried to come out while the head was still on one time. I'll bet that that little water cooled engine runs nice and quiet. Is 50Hz power the norm in europe? In the US we use 60Hz. I would imagine that speeding the engine up to 1800 RPM would give 60Hz if needed though. > 5. Onan Generator comes home (Listerdiesel)> Message: 5> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:51:07 +0100> From: Listerdiesel > Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home> To: Stationary-Engine ,> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> Message-ID:>> We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last> week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial> 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx.> > Picked it up yesterday from a farm outside Stafford, took a few pic's:> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red1.jpg> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red2.jpg> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red3.jpg> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red4.jpg> > "Red" in the filename is for "Reduced Size", not the colour of the Onan :-))> > Needs a starting handle (but it also has electric start) and that> pattern on the head is welding of a frosted area. If anyone has a> starting handle spare, or can loan one for a pattern, let me know> please?> > Peter> -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A From andyglines at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 13:49:55 2008 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:49:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Oiler gaskets. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Glenn & Keith. Thanks for the answers. First I will look to see if I have any Cork gasket material. I'm not even sure what the diameter is right now. About 1.5"> > Message: 8> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:05:34 -0400> From: Keith Kinney > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets> To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: <8A06509A-175E-41C8-862B-D3606AE7327A at herculesengines.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes> > Andy> Get ahold of Hit and Miss Enterprises or Starbolt and give them the > diameter of your glass. The will have cork gaskets to fit.> Keith> > On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Andy Glines wrote:> > >> > I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler > > was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets > > using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks > > so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. > > I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the > > oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass.> > Keith Kinney> kkinney at herculesengines.com> WWW.HerculesEngines.com> > Message: 9> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT)> From: Glenn Karch > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets> To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: <306110.26111.qm at web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > Andy,> > I have plenty of the thin cork gasket material to make any size oiler gaskets.> > Glenn _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 17 14:15:59 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:15:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] mail server virus Message-ID: _http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/mailserver.asp_ (http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/mailserver.asp) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Apr 17 16:46:20 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:46:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <48069D9E.2080409@optusnet.com.au> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> <48069D9E.2080409@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1208475980.4807e14c4f422@webmail.city-net.com> She has finger nails? Whoda thunk it... 8->> Quoting Jack Watson : > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > === > Anyone notice her beautiful finger nails? > JW? > === From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Apr 17 19:37:41 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:37:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04><03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <001301c8a0fd$2d0dfa80$0201a8c0@pengy> Thats what I get for getting a history lesson from the Greenfield Village! They had an actor portraying Elijah McCoy a few years back. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > >From the http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ website: > > > "Real McCoy" > Of the biographical sketches of Elijah McCoy one finds in books and on > the Internet, a good many aim more for inspiration than historical > accuracy and rely more on wishful thinking than evidence. The most > fanciful writers fantasize that Elijah was the original Real McCoy, who > gave rise to the expression that means "the genuine article." According > to the fantasy, locomotive and factory machine operators demanded "real" > McCoy products, preferring them to the pieces of junk hawked by less > able competitors who could do no better than copy McCoy's creations. > While the details of the story vary somewhat depending on the source, > one thing that remains constant is a lack of evidence to back it all up. > Never do the storytellers offer any concrete information that > establishes a credible link between Elijah McCoy and the "Real" > nickname. Extreme claims about McCoy lubricators dominating the market > or becoming the industry-wide standard go unsubstantiated as well; such > McCoy-centric historical views do not mesh with other, more reliable > accounts of lubricator development.[8] > > Slang dictionaries and other linguistic publications do not support the > notion of Elijah McCoy being the "real" one.[9] Most of them, after > discussing one or more competing theories about how the phrase began > (involving either a famous boxer, a clan chieftain, a cattle baron, a > Prohibition-era rumrunner, a family feud, pure heroin from Macao, or an > old Irish ballad) reach a conclusion similar to that of the Oxford > English Dictionary, which says "Its origin remains uncertain." > > Although the ultimate source of Real McCoy may never be known, we can at > least trace back early forms of the expression to Scotland years before > Elijah McCoy began plying his trade. The Scottish National Dictionary > presents an example from 1856: "A drappie o' the real McKay," meaning a > drop of genuine Scotch whiskey.[10] The dictionary also says, "The > phrase ['real Mackay'] was adopted as an advertising slogan by Messrs. > G. Mackay and Co., whisky distillers of Edinburgh, in 1870 and must have > been already current by that date." Variant spellings included Mackay, > McCoy, and McKie (all equivalent to the Gaelic MacAoidh), with real > McCoy eventually becoming the standard American form. Whether one or > more specific persons named McCoy helped popularize the phrase or > influence its spelling remains speculative. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:47 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the > saying > originates from. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Mackessy" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > >> Hello Brandon; >> I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the >> "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on >> "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the > words >> "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah >> McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were >> displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of >> research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about > >> where >> people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good > luck >> on your research! >> Jim Mackessy >> Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brandon Newton" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM >> Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator >> >> >> Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the > real >> thing and have pictures for anyone >> who may be able to help. >> thanks in advance. >> >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- >> ---- >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 23:25:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:25:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f6025160804172325u717e8006lebe6d378291b62b6@mail.gmail.com> On 17/04/2008, Andy Glines wrote: > > Looks like a nifty little rig. Maybe the piston tried to come out while the head was still on one time. I'll bet that that little water cooled engine runs nice and quiet. Is 50Hz power the norm in europe? In the US we use 60Hz. I would imagine that speeding the engine up to 1800 RPM would give 60Hz if needed though. Andy: That was frost damage :-)) 50Hz is pretty much standard all through Europe and Asia, but there are pockets of 60Hz around, particularly where there are no national grid supplies. The engine can be run at 60Hz to give more output, that would be 1800rpm, but noisier. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Fri Apr 18 08:54:53 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:54:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the last time I was there. Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana before going to Portland. If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person should really see, please email off list with the name and location of collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would like to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. Thanks George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 10:02:14 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:02:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! Tommy Turner Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ From cgandree at mchsi.com Fri Apr 18 13:54:06 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:54:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <041820082054.1262.48090A6E00082E78000004EE219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Ok Tommy....so what hapen to the term "Illinois, Land of Lincoln"? Heck its even on our license plates! Not trying to start the civil war over again, BUT? Curt Andree Illinois, born and raised. ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:20 +0000 > OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote > for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln > Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here > so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine > related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a > patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that > "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > > > http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to- > begin-may-10/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From glenn.karch at att.net Fri Apr 18 14:19:18 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM Subject: [SEL] Help Needed OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! Tommy Turner Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Apr 18 14:16:30 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:16:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <20080418.171630.1324.9.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Tommy, We could sit and vote all day. It seems to be accepting all the votes that I send Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." From mark.666 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 18 14:41:32 2008 From: mark.666 at blueyonder.co.uk (Mark Williams) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:41:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4809158C.1000006@blueyonder.co.uk> Come on Guys you all know he was English (well bar a generation or so) Mark Glenn Karch wrote: > Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. > > Glenn > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Judge Tommy Turner > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM > Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > > OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote > for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln > Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here > so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine > related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a > patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that > "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Apr 18 15:37:04 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see a picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote > for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln > Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here > so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine > related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a > patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that > "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > > > http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:39:17 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:39:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <041820082054.1262.48090A6E00082E78000004EE219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <041820082054.1262.48090A6E00082E78000004EE219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <48092315.2090209@scrtc.com> Hey Curt, License plates don't tell the whole story!! Lincoln was born in KY and spent the first 8 years of his life here. His wife was a Kentuckian, his 3 law partners were all Kentuckians, his best friend was a Kentuckian and so on. Lincoln once said "I too am a Kentuckian" and regarding Kentucky and the Civil War "I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky". During Lincoln's whole life, Kentucky played a role. Yes, the Illinois license plate says "Land of Lincoln". But, he certainly belongs to more than just Illinois. Hey, don't worry, there won't be another civil war over it, maybe just a skirmish or two! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >Ok Tommy....so what hapen to the term "Illinois, Land of Lincoln"? Heck its >even on our license plates! Not trying to start the civil war over again, BUT? >Curt Andree >Illinois, born and raised. > > >---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:20 +0000 > > > >>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >> >> >> >>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to- >>begin-may-10/ >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:40:25 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:40:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <20080418.171630.1324.9.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20080418.171630.1324.9.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <48092359.40003@scrtc.com> Great Joe, rack 'em up! Tommy jlb94 at juno.com wrote: >Hi Tommy, > >We could sit and vote all day. >It seems to be accepting all the votes that I send > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone > (_o_) who'll never find out." >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:42:55 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:42:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480923EF.7030302@scrtc.com> Hey Glenn, it really is. We've got a group formed called the "Tri States Committee" and one of our National commission members is from Evansville. Not sure why the Evansville paper is doing the poll. But here's the key thing, when you celebrate the Bicentennial of Lincoln's birth, its centering around just that, his birth. That happend in Kentucky. I'll be at a program in Lincoln City Indiana on May 10 and 11. Tommy Glenn Karch wrote: >Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. > >Glenn > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >To: The SEL email discussion list >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM >Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > >OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > >Tommy Turner > > > >Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > > >http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:45:49 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:45:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <4809158C.1000006@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4809158C.1000006@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4809249D.4020401@scrtc.com> Well yes Mark, that's right. Go back 3 generations from Abe and his folks were across the big water. Tommy Turner Mark Williams wrote: >Come on Guys you all know he was English (well bar a generation or so) > >Mark > >Glenn Karch wrote: > > >>Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. >> >>Glenn >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ---- >>From: Judge Tommy Turner >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM >>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >> >>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 16:12:37 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:12:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> <001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com> Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this stuff as much as I have the old iron! Tommy Turner Mike Royster wrote: >Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see a >picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's >just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. > >MR > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > > > > >>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >> >> >> >>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Fri Apr 18 17:31:28 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:31:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <200804190031.m3J0V0eY008934@mail804.megamailservers.com> You got it Tommy Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! Tommy Turner Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events -set-to-begin-may-10/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.1/1384 - Release Date: 4/17/2008 3:47 PM From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Apr 19 04:32:12 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:32:12 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! Message-ID: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. SEL seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:58:48 +0000 > Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the > last time I was there. > > Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will > try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and > Indiana before going to Portland. > > If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person > should really see, please email off list with the name and location of > collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com > > Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would like > to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. > > Thanks > > George > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee > and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader > of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sat Apr 19 05:14:51 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:14:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! References: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <002e01c8a216$fa6ff2c0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> I have to say that my last visit to Baraboo, two years ago, was impressive. I agree with Curt. The whole event, for the Ozzies, was as good as it gets. Portland, with their re arranging of areas, was missing a lot of earlier 'feel'. I hope they have sorted it for this year. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. > SEL > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. > Curt Andree > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: "Best, George" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:58:48 +0000 > >> Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the >> last time I was there. >> >> Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will >> try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and >> Indiana before going to Portland. >> >> If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person >> should really see, please email off list with the name and location of >> collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com >> >> Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would like >> to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. >> >> Thanks >> >> George >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >> addressee >> and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the >> reader >> of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized >> representative of >> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of >> this >> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >> communication in >> error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and >> any >> attachments from your system. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 19 05:34:34 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:34:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com><001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> OOOoooooo I like this! Then you know Nancy actually was in Bostic and did live with the Enloes as a hired girl. In Lincoln's hanwriting "I was born in" means squat as he has no cognitive memory of the event, only what he was told, much as you or I do. There are eyewitnesses here as well that remember Nancy giving birth here, moving to KY then marrying Lincoln. This debate will only be proven in the next world!!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed > Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the > Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate > son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we > detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the > Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own > handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county > of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of > the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln > Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in > LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, > Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running > for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas > ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis > lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center > folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof > that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, > the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at > the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are > ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing > Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the > Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to > where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this > stuff as much as I have the old iron! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Mike Royster wrote: > >>Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see >>a >>picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's >>just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. >> >>MR >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >> >> >> >> >>>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron >>>too! >>> >>>Tommy Turner >>> >>> >>> >>>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >>> >>> >>> >>>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 19 08:35:03 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:35:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com><001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com> <001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <480A1127.8030407@scrtc.com> No Mike as there's no proof that the "Nancy" who lived in NC was the same Nancy that gave birth to Abe, other than people saying "we think it was her". None of the timelines work out as Thomas and Nancy were married in Springfield, KY in 1806. The marriage license is proof, the minister wrote of the marriage as well as several others that were in attendance. So, if Nancy already had Abe in 1806, he would be older than Sarah. Sarah refers to herself as "Abe's older sister" and at the school they attended here in LaRue County there is the writings from a lady in the 1860's (she being in her 70's then) who wrote of attending the school with Sarah and her "little brother Abe". This would also mean that Abe would have had to be born prior to 1806 when Thomas and Nancy married. So instead of Abe being 8 when they left KY, he would have been about 12 or possibly older. I did an interview with a newspaper out of NC a few weeks ago regarding this very thing. There are a LOT of problems with the Bostic claim. Supposedly, Tom Lincoln was working in the woods and at a sawmill in NC when Enloe convinced him to marry Nancy and head to KY. The problem is Tom was a surveyor, carpenter, and worked for the county here in KY and records show (from the county for payments to him, receipts for work he did, etc.) he was here in KY, not NC during this time period. Bostic has an interesting story, although I agree with you about congnitive memory as most of the info is gathered from folks in their 80's plus speaking of when they were a few years old (hey, come to think of it, I think when I was 4 dad told me something about him and Marilyn Monroe..... I guess it makes it fact!). I think the best thing to do would be DNA tests. Dig up Enloe or find one of his surviving decendents and do the DNA match against some of Lincoln's DNA (we have some of his hair so we could gather it). "Kentucky Land of Abe"! :-) Tommy Turner >OOOoooooo I like this! Then you know Nancy actually was in Bostic and did >live with the Enloes as a hired girl. In Lincoln's hanwriting "I was born >in" means squat as he has no cognitive memory of the event, only what he was >told, much as you or I do. There are eyewitnesses here as well that >remember Nancy giving birth here, moving to KY then marrying Lincoln. This >debate will only be proven in the next world!!!!!! > >MR >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:12 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed > > > > >>Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the >>Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate >>son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we >>detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the >>Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own >>handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county >>of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of >>the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln >>Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in >>LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, >>Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running >>for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas >>ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis >>lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center >>folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof >>that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, >>the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at >>the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are >>ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing >>Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the >>Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to >>where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this >>stuff as much as I have the old iron! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Mike Royster wrote: >> >> >> >>>Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see >>>a >>>picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's >>>just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. >>> >>>MR >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >>>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>>>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>>>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>>>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>>>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>>>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron >>>>too! >>>> >>>>Tommy Turner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>>>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 10:18:33 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804172325u717e8006lebe6d378291b62b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24524.85586.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Let's not overlook Japan, where part of the country is on 50Hz, the other part 60Hz. Bill From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 09:38:22 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:38:22 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.com> On 17/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > week Update, after a very busy day in the workshop! Got the rest of the axle stubs for the Caterpillar 1Y73 finished and tapped (pic url below) that is an M16 X 2 tap in the picture. Then spent most of the rest of the day sorting out the Onan mounting and cleaning up the trolley. It only needed a bit of a wire brush on the wheels and WD40 on the timber to remove a bit of oily residue. It's a lot more secure now, and there are proper fasteners instead of the 6" "Farmers Special" nails holding it down. We also balanced it so the trolley pivots without undue pressure either way, and the generator is now properly central on the trolley (side to side) Peter http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red5.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red6.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red7.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red8.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/O...illarAxle7.jpg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kosh at ncweb.com Sat Apr 19 11:43:28 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:43:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080419143736.03a0fea8@ncweb.com> Just signed on to SEL (frequently accused of being a FATG) Wondering what the CAT engine is? Sounds like a 1 cyl test engine? Somewhere in the email chain elided the link. Here is the repaired link: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/CaterpillarAxle7.jpg Wouldn't mind finding something like that Onan, looks nice, hows it run? Dave Merchant At 12:38 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote: >On 17/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > > week > >Update, after a very busy day in the workshop! > >Got the rest of the axle stubs for the Caterpillar 1Y73 finished and >tapped (pic url below) that is an M16 X 2 tap in the picture. > >Then spent most of the rest of the day sorting out the Onan mounting >and cleaning up the trolley. It only needed a bit of a wire brush on >the wheels and WD40 on the timber to remove a bit of oily residue. > >It's a lot more secure now, and there are proper fasteners instead of >the 6" "Farmers Special" nails holding it down. We also balanced it so >the trolley pivots without undue pressure either way, and the >generator is now properly central on the trolley (side to side) > >Peter > >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red5.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red6.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red7.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red8.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/O...illarAxle7.jpg > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 02:42:00 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Nick Lozzi, Fuller & Johnson engine registrar, Massachusetts In-Reply-To: <1208475980.4807e14c4f422@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <662793.87419.qm@web59212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi, Guys, Anyone have an email address for Nick? I visited Chiba Prefecture Technical School yesterday and saw nicely restored F & J. Am wondering if he is aware and has it in registery. Bill From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 02:46:17 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bessemer registrar In-Reply-To: <1208475980.4807e14c4f422@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <850604.14514.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, More. Is anyone aware of someone doing a Bessemer registration? Bill fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: She has finger nails? Whoda thunk it... 8->> Quoting Jack Watson : > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > === > Anyone notice her beautiful finger nails? > JW? > === _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 11:54:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:54:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080419143736.03a0fea8@ncweb.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20080419143736.03a0fea8@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804191154k7cbb8f79t52c90da34e36bda9@mail.gmail.com> On 19/04/2008, Dave Merchant wrote: > Just signed on to SEL (frequently accused of being a FATG) > > Wondering what the CAT engine is? > Sounds like a 1 cyl test engine? > > Somewhere in the email chain elided the link. > Here is the repaired link: > > > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/CaterpillarAxle7.jpg > > > Wouldn't mind finding something like that Onan, looks nice, hows it run? > > Dave Merchant > Hi Dave: I did post a corrected url immediately after the original, but thanks for picking it up as well. The Caterpillar 1Y73 is indeed a single-cylinder research diesel engine for testing fuels and lubricants. We have a pair in captivity: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu.htm or on the UK site: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu.htm The Onan hasn't run yet, we are waiting for some exhaust flanges to be laser cut so we can make a new exhaust manifold stub for it. It looks pretty good, we hope to have it running during next week. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 20 13:39:17 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:39:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: Need some help with the gear water pump on my 1914 Famous. Does anyone know how the brass gear on the moving shaft of the water pump is attached? It appears that it may be a tight fitting steel pin thru the gear and shaft, solid, not rolled. I have hit it a couple of times with a punch, but it does not move. I do not want to hit it too hard before I know what it is. I do not see any signs of a slotted screw head. I have a break down of the parts, but mine only shows the gear on the shaft, not how it is held. My pump shaft and housing bushings have worn to the extent that I need to replace with an oversize shaft, so the gear has to come off. This shaft is brass and the bushings are the brass case. Interesting, the fixed shaft is steel and it and the brass gear are still a tight fit. Got to get it fixed quick as the first show of the season is next Saturday! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Apr 20 14:48:05 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:48:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6EDF64A3-BC1F-4A2A-99DC-FB672DCE1378@alltel.net> Sure hope to see you at the ATIS dinner and charity auction, George! Dave On Apr 18, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Best, George wrote: > Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the > last time I was there. > > Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will > try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and > Indiana before going to Portland. > > If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person > should really see, please email off list with the name and location of > collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com > > Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would > like > to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. > > Thanks > > George > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended > recipient or an authorized representative of the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and > delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jthall at worldnet.att.net Sun Apr 20 15:35:12 2008 From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:35:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Famous help References: Message-ID: <001001c8a336$ccc6ef10$f8d24c0c@D48VHZ61> Well it appears you will be going to Reidsville! I don't know what the pin is but I'm wondering if it is a taper pin. Have you tried tapping both sides? I understand not wanting to hit away with a hammer so is it possible to measure both sides with a caliper to see if it is a tapered pin? John Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: [SEL] Famous help > Need some help with the gear water pump on my 1914 Famous. Does anyone > know > how the brass gear on the moving shaft of the water pump is attached? It > appears that it may be a tight fitting steel pin thru the gear and shaft, > solid, not rolled. I have hit it a couple of times with a punch, but it > does not > move. I do not want to hit it too hard before I know what it is. I do > not > see any signs of a slotted screw head. I have a break down of the parts, > but > mine only shows the gear on the shaft, not how it is held. My pump shaft > and > housing bushings have worn to the extent that I need to replace with an > oversize shaft, so the gear has to come off. This shaft is brass and the > bushings > are the brass case. Interesting, the fixed shaft is steel and it and the > brass gear are still a tight fit. > > Got to get it fixed quick as the first show of the season is next > Saturday! > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 20 15:57:37 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:57:37 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: John, Thanks, the pin is out. The problem was the pin was recessed down in the gear on both sides, so very hard to tell what it was, and I thought of the tapered pin too. Figuring it had to come out one way or the other, found a small end mill and away I went. The pin was very recessed on one side, so this gave me something to align the end mill to. It was a straight steel pin, apparently a forced fit to the shaft. Headed to a friends machine shop in the morning for some precise machining! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From jthall at worldnet.att.net Sun Apr 20 16:23:38 2008 From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:23:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Famous help References: Message-ID: <000a01c8a33d$90d9e230$d4ea4c0c@D48VHZ61> Glad to hear it is out! Is this the same Famous you had at Reidsville last year? John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Famous help > John, > > Thanks, the pin is out. The problem was the pin was recessed down in the > gear on both sides, so very hard to tell what it was, and I thought of > the > tapered pin too. Figuring it had to come out one way or the other, found > a small > end mill and away I went. The pin was very recessed on one side, so this > gave me something to align the end mill to. It was a straight steel pin, > apparently a forced fit to the shaft. Headed to a friends machine shop > in the > morning for some precise machining! > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used > car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 19 19:48:06 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:48:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com><001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com><001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> <480A1127.8030407@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000001c8a353$84712600$726f4b47@mikecomp> I am only too aware of how things get changed over the years by well meaning people who want only good things for their community or state. I have seen cases where people alter "history" in order to suit their needs. Why I would never question your integrity, and I beleive you have done a great job on your research (much more than others), I do question those that came before you and me. I most heartily agree, DNA will be the only way this riddle gets solved. Congrats on your efforts and I hope you get the votes! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed > No Mike as there's no proof that the "Nancy" who lived in NC was the > same Nancy that gave birth to Abe, other than people saying "we think it > was her". None of the timelines work out as Thomas and Nancy were > married in Springfield, KY in 1806. The marriage license is proof, the > minister wrote of the marriage as well as several others that were in > attendance. So, if Nancy already had Abe in 1806, he would be older > than Sarah. Sarah refers to herself as "Abe's older sister" and at the > school they attended here in LaRue County there is the writings from a > lady in the 1860's (she being in her 70's then) who wrote of attending > the school with Sarah and her "little brother Abe". This would also > mean that Abe would have had to be born prior to 1806 when Thomas and > Nancy married. So instead of Abe being 8 when they left KY, he would > have been about 12 or possibly older. > > I did an interview with a newspaper out of NC a few weeks ago regarding > this very thing. There are a LOT of problems with the Bostic claim. > Supposedly, Tom Lincoln was working in the woods and at a sawmill in NC > when Enloe convinced him to marry Nancy and head to KY. The problem is > Tom was a surveyor, carpenter, and worked for the county here in KY and > records show (from the county for payments to him, receipts for work he > did, etc.) he was here in KY, not NC during this time period. Bostic > has an interesting story, although I agree with you about congnitive > memory as most of the info is gathered from folks in their 80's plus > speaking of when they were a few years old (hey, come to think of it, I > think when I was 4 dad told me something about him and Marilyn > Monroe..... I guess it makes it fact!). > > I think the best thing to do would be DNA tests. Dig up Enloe or find > one of his surviving decendents and do the DNA match against some of > Lincoln's DNA (we have some of his hair so we could gather it). > > "Kentucky Land of Abe"! :-) > > Tommy Turner > > > >>OOOoooooo I like this! Then you know Nancy actually was in Bostic and did >>live with the Enloes as a hired girl. In Lincoln's hanwriting "I was born >>in" means squat as he has no cognitive memory of the event, only what he >>was >>told, much as you or I do. There are eyewitnesses here as well that >>remember Nancy giving birth here, moving to KY then marrying Lincoln. >>This >>debate will only be proven in the next world!!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:12 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed >> >> >> >> >>>Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the >>>Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate >>>son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we >>>detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the >>>Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own >>>handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county >>>of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of >>>the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln >>>Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in >>>LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, >>>Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running >>>for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas >>>ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis >>>lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center >>>folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof >>>that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, >>>the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at >>>the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are >>>ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing >>>Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the >>>Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to >>>where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this >>>stuff as much as I have the old iron! >>> >>>Tommy Turner >>> >>> >>> >>>Mike Royster wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you >>>>see >>>>a >>>>picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. >>>>Let's >>>>just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. >>>> >>>>MR >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >>>>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>>>>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>>>>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born >>>>>here >>>>>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>>>>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>>>>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron >>>>>too! >>>>> >>>>>Tommy Turner >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>>>>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Apr 20 19:43:34 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:43:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Message-ID: <480BFF56.3040606@scrtc.com> Mike, I tried to send this and it bounced back to me. Thanks. TT Thanks Mike. See you in Boone in a couple of weeks? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Mike Royster wrote: >I am only too aware of how things get changed over the years by well >meaning people who want only good things for their community or state. I >have seen cases where people alter "history" in order to suit their needs. >Why I would never question your integrity, and I beleive you have done a >great job on your research (much more than others), I do question those that >came before you and me. I most heartily agree, DNA will be the only way >this riddle gets solved. Congrats on your efforts and I hope you get the >votes! > >Mike > > > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 09:41:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:41:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804190941w1d248fbew111b2c72897c392a@mail.gmail.com> On 19/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > Update, after a very busy day in the workshop! > That last url did not come through correctly in my post: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/CaterpillarAxle7.jpg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Apr 21 03:18:01 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:18:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: In a message dated 4/20/2008 7:26:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, jthall at worldnet.att.net writes: Is this the same Famous you had at Reidsville last year? It is the same one. I think this photo was taken at Reidsville many years ago. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/Famous1.htm_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/Famous1.htm) Long range forecast calls for rain next Saturday. Hope not. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 01:38:55 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:38:55 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <6EDF64A3-BC1F-4A2A-99DC-FB672DCE1378@alltel.net> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6EDF64A3-BC1F-4A2A-99DC-FB672DCE1378@alltel.net> Message-ID: <6f6025160804210138j59fc7af9n671a5b542bc271c6@mail.gmail.com> On 20/04/2008, David Rotigel wrote: > Sure hope to see you at the ATIS dinner and charity auction, George! > Dave > Dave: Are you taking names and numbers for the Back 40 Junction yet? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Apr 21 03:42:31 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:42:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] References: <480BFF56.3040606@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000801c8a39c$672542e0$726f4b47@mikecomp> I am unsure at this point. Steve and I head to Reidsville this weekend but beyond that I am unsure. I may have to go "serve time" in Atlanta but hope to get out of that. Would love to be at that auction!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:43 PM Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] > Mike, > I tried to send this and it bounced back to me. Thanks. > TT > > > > Thanks Mike. See you in Boone in a couple of weeks? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > Mike Royster wrote: > >>I am only too aware of how things get changed over the years by well >>meaning people who want only good things for their community or state. I >>have seen cases where people alter "history" in order to suit their needs. >>Why I would never question your integrity, and I beleive you have done a >>great job on your research (much more than others), I do question those >>that >>came before you and me. I most heartily agree, DNA will be the only way >>this riddle gets solved. Congrats on your efforts and I hope you get the >>votes! >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 21 07:41:46 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:41:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for this show? We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at Baraboo on Saturday. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. SEL seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. Curt Andree This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From stevebarr at ameritech.net Mon Apr 21 16:15:12 2008 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> George Here is a link to the map page on the club's web site. http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/maps.htm You can then click on the yahoo maps link to view a map of the area. Steve --- "Best, George" wrote: > Curt, > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for > this show? > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at > Baraboo on Saturday. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > cgandree at mchsi.com > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. > SEL > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. > Curt Andree > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient > or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Apr 22 02:15:43 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:15:43 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! Message-ID: <042220080915.17938.480DACBF0007CECF00004612219791336303010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi George, Be glad to try and reserve a room for you at the same motel all the rest of the SEL group stays at but might be better if you gave me a call on my cell so we can better discuss details. Cell: 815-238-7316 Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:48:35 +0000 > Curt, > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for > this show? > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at > Baraboo on Saturday. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > cgandree at mchsi.com > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. > SEL > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. > Curt Andree > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee > and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader > of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net Tue Apr 22 05:21:34 2008 From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (armstrong) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:21:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station References: <20061016035321.61476.qmail@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004101c8a473$6a94f380$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5> Joe, We just moved a 75 Hp F-M two cyl. semi-diesel from MO. to Buckley, MI. showgrounds this past weekend. I also would like the operating info you sent Elden and please let me know the cost envolved so I can reimburse you. I have lost your phone # or I would have given you a shout. I bought the extra Wendel book from you, the rope maker(the boy scouts haven't used as yet) and the gas valve. I hope I can get up your way and see the engine you were describing to Elden and pick your brain before we get the one up and running at Buckley. Regards, George F. Armstrong 17220 County Line Road Hebron, IN. 46341 Ph 219-996-6224 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Prindle" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station >I am sending you two disks, the first one contains the literature > previously mentioned, and then another one containing the first half of a > book entitled "Oil Engine Power Plant Handbook", a practical book on > setting up and operating diesel engines. THe reason I am only sending the > first half is because it is all I scanned before I got sidetracked. The > second half is all advertising, anyway. > It will go out in the morning. > If you find yourself needing rings or injector parts, let me know. We also > have extra lubricators and an injector tester. Our engines are complete > and we got a ton of parts from some others that were junked. There were a > lot of these plants around here and there are a few that are not yet > junked. > The electrical end of it is pretty simple. I hope I am right in assuming > that you will not try to use the 2200 volt generator as it is, and if you > do try to use it, you will look into rewinding it for 208Y-120 or some > other useful voltage. > If you ever get out this way and want to see a neat power plant, I have a > friend who has a hydro plant his grandpa built new in 1916. It is still > running and has seen very little repair or renovation. The plant is a 2300 > volt plant, with the electrical machinery built by Electric Machinery Co., > of Minneapolis and the turbines by James Leffel, of Springfield,Ohio. It > is a really neat little plant with nice marble switchboard and lots of > brass bezel guages and big knife switches. Very Cool. > Joe > > --- Elden DuRand wrote: > >> Joe: >> >> Your email was a sight for sore eyes! >> >> YESSSS! We'd be delighted to get a CDROM of the books. Tell me what >> the cost is and I will immediately send you a check! >> >> It's good to know that there's not a lot of rocket science involved in >> erecting these engines. I DO know that we need to be very careful with >> alignment of the shaft and that it's best to grout the engine base to >> the foundation. >> >> THANKS!!!!! >> >> Elden DuRand >> 6601 Old Zaring Road >> Crestwood, KY 40014 >> >> edurand at iglou.com >> http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> > Behalf Of Joe Prindle >> > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:33 AM >> > To: The SEL email discussion list >> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M >> > Power Station >> > >> > >> > Would a CD with a instruction and parts book be >> > OK? Our club has a twin >> > and a three cylinder Fairbanks and I scanned the >> > books into Acrobat a few >> > years ago. I can send you a disc with Instruction >> > book number 3200E, for >> > models 32E12 and 32E14. I can also send the book >> > for the Madison Kipp 50 >> > lubricator and the book on how to service the injectors. >> > You won't find a foundation print unless the one >> > for your engine has been >> > saved, that print was drawn when the engine was >> > erected at the factory, >> > and the print is for each specific engine. >> > You don't need a print, you can measure the >> > elevation of each section of >> > the foundation and the bolt pattern once the >> > engine is removed from the >> > foundation. >> > Once you see the manual, it will make more sense. >> > A few photos of the tear-out of our engines can >> > be found here: >> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/projects.htm >> > Email me your address and I will send you a cd. >> > Joe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > Joe Prindle > Baraboo, WI USA > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 22 07:23:16 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:23:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station In-Reply-To: <004101c8a473$6a94f380$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5> Message-ID: George & Joe: First, take note of my current address (permanent, I hope!). Again, thanks to Joe for the CDROM of the manuals. I learned a lot from them and copies were passed along to the recipients of the gensets from Sapelo Island. As for the generators themselves, they are 2200 Volts, 60 Hz. We salvaged the transformers (the ones that didn't have PCB's) so they can (if the recipients want) be used for 120/240 volt service. Take care - Elden DuRand 8413 Tradewinds Drive Port St Joe FL 32456 edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of armstrong > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 07:22 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M > Power Station > > > Joe, > We just moved a 75 Hp F-M two cyl. semi-diesel > from MO. to Buckley, MI. > showgrounds this past weekend. I also would like > the operating info you > sent Elden and please let me know the cost > envolved so I can reimburse you. > I have lost your phone # or I would have given > you a shout. I bought the > extra Wendel book from you, the rope maker(the > boy scouts haven't used as > yet) and the gas valve. I hope I can get up your > way and see the engine you > were describing to Elden and pick your brain > before we get the one up and > running at Buckley. Regards, George F. Armstrong > 17220 County Line Road > Hebron, IN. 46341 > Ph 219-996-6224 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Prindle" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:53 PM > Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M > Power Station > > > >I am sending you two disks, the first one > contains the literature > > previously mentioned, and then another one > containing the first half of a > > book entitled "Oil Engine Power Plant > Handbook", a practical book on > > setting up and operating diesel engines. THe > reason I am only sending the > > first half is because it is all I scanned > before I got sidetracked. The > > second half is all advertising, anyway. > > It will go out in the morning. > > If you find yourself needing rings or injector > parts, let me know. We also > > have extra lubricators and an injector tester. > Our engines are complete > > and we got a ton of parts from some others that > were junked. There were a > > lot of these plants around here and there are a > few that are not yet > > junked. > > The electrical end of it is pretty simple. I > hope I am right in assuming > > that you will not try to use the 2200 volt > generator as it is, and if you > > do try to use it, you will look into rewinding > it for 208Y-120 or some > > other useful voltage. > > If you ever get out this way and want to see a > neat power plant, I have a > > friend who has a hydro plant his grandpa built > new in 1916. It is still > > running and has seen very little repair or > renovation. The plant is a 2300 > > volt plant, with the electrical machinery built > by Electric Machinery Co., > > of Minneapolis and the turbines by James > Leffel, of Springfield,Ohio. It > > is a really neat little plant with nice marble > switchboard and lots of > > brass bezel guages and big knife switches. Very Cool. > > Joe > > > > --- Elden DuRand wrote: > > > >> Joe: > >> > >> Your email was a sight for sore eyes! > >> > >> YESSSS! We'd be delighted to get a CDROM of > the books. Tell me what > >> the cost is and I will immediately send you a check! > >> > >> It's good to know that there's not a lot of > rocket science involved in > >> erecting these engines. I DO know that we > need to be very careful with > >> alignment of the shaft and that it's best to > grout the engine base to > >> the foundation. > >> > >> THANKS!!!!! > >> > >> Elden > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> > Behalf Of Joe Prindle > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:33 AM > >> > To: The SEL email discussion list > >> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M > >> > Power Station > >> > > >> > > >> > Would a CD with a instruction and parts book be > >> > OK? Our club has a twin > >> > and a three cylinder Fairbanks and I scanned the > >> > books into Acrobat a few > >> > years ago. I can send you a disc with Instruction > >> > book number 3200E, for > >> > models 32E12 and 32E14. I can also send the book > >> > for the Madison Kipp 50 > >> > lubricator and the book on how to service > the injectors. > >> > You won't find a foundation print unless the one > >> > for your engine has been > >> > saved, that print was drawn when the engine was > >> > erected at the factory, > >> > and the print is for each specific engine. > >> > You don't need a print, you can measure the > >> > elevation of each section of > >> > the foundation and the bolt pattern once the > >> > engine is removed from the > >> > foundation. > >> > Once you see the manual, it will make more sense. > >> > A few photos of the tear-out of our engines can > >> > be found here: > >> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/projects.htm > >> > Email me your address and I will send you a cd. > >> > Joe From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Apr 23 15:51:22 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:51:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off topic! Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html Dave PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! PPS, Life is good! From avanti_64 at juno.com Wed Apr 23 17:05:09 2008 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:05:09 GMT Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <20080423.200509.17954.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Way to go Dave!!! They both don't have a clue! Joe _____________________________________________________________ Click to find local singles for dating, romance and fun http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iif6WBsV7ltYb0Z0T1knA9PYEmcrYizVJQCxeCtVantZMS0D7/ From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Apr 23 17:28:23 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:28:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! References: Message-ID: <001001c8a5a2$1af9e990$726f4b47@mikecomp> I LOVE IT!!!!!!! Great job Dr.Dave!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > topic! > > Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! > > See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > > PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > PPS, Life is good! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Apr 23 18:57:31 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:57:31 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <14931311.1209002252550.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Excellent Dave! You should have a copy made and sent to her. Tim Christoff Basehor, KS. From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Wed Apr 23 15:02:21 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:02:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] wiscona pep Message-ID: <000c01c8a58d$b490f630$cfd5474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi Guys, Any information on the above engines would be much appreciated, as I have concluded a deal for one. Thanks, Craig Morrison From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Apr 24 03:47:03 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:47:03 +0000 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <042420081047.17658.48106527000774BF000044FA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Dave, Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all wearing that T- shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind of worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to him! Proud of your choice Dave. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > topic! > > Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! > > See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > > PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > PPS, Life is good! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Thu Apr 24 05:06:24 2008 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (ArthurDeana Southwell) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:06:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! References: Message-ID: <00d101c8a603$9e65e610$7501a8c0@LapTop> Way to go Dave. Good on ya. Arthur Arthur Southwell Arthur Southwell Rebuilding Arcadia, Florida 34266 U.S.A. asouth42 at embarqmail.com http://www.homestead.com/artsouthwell/index.html http://photos.yahoo.com/mr_nocatee http://community.webshots.com/user/asouth944 http://oldengine.org/members/southwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > > PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > PPS, Life is good! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1393 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 > 8:12 AM > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 24 05:43:29 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! References: <042420081047.17658.48106527000774BF000044FA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <01f101c8a608$cf2b4dd0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of us!! (And I dont even live there) Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > Dave, > Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all wearing that > T- > shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind of > worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to him! > Proud of your choice Dave. > Curt Andree > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: David Rotigel > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > >> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama >> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in >> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for >> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off >> topic! >> >> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but >> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! >> >> See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html >> Dave >> >> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! >> PPS, Life is good! >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tsmith at hal-pc.org Thu Apr 24 06:05:53 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:05:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! In-Reply-To: <01f101c8a608$cf2b4dd0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <042420081047.17658.48106527000774BF000044FA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <01f101c8a608$cf2b4dd0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: I truly wish we had more Australians in America. The ones that I know and especially those I've been associated with in the military are my kind of people. Thanks, Tom On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 "R & M Ingold" wrote: > Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of >us!! > (And I dont even live there) > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- >From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > > >> Dave, >> Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all >>wearing that >> T- >> shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind >>of >> worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to >>him! >> Proud of your choice Dave. >> Curt Andree >> >> >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- >> From: David Rotigel >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> >> Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 >> >>> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama >>> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in >>> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for >>> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off >>> topic! >>> >>> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but >>> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the >>>video! >>> >>> See: >>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html >>> Dave >>> >>> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! >>> PPS, Life is good! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 24 06:50:45 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 9:50:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <29650798.196781209045046081.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> Amen to that!!!! ---- Tom Smith wrote: > I truly wish we had more Australians in America. The ones that I know > and especially those I've been associated with in the military are my > kind of people. > > Thanks, > Tom > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 > "R & M Ingold" wrote: > > Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of > >us!! > > (And I dont even live there) > > Reg & Marg Ingold. > > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > > > > > >> Dave, > >> Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all > >>wearing that > >> T- > >> shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind > >>of > >> worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to > >>him! > >> Proud of your choice Dave. > >> Curt Andree > >> > >> > >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > >> From: David Rotigel > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> > >> Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > >> > >>> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > >>> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > >>> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > >>> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > >>> topic! > >>> > >>> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > >>> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the > >>>video! > >>> > >>> See: > >>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > >>> PPS, Life is good! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 24 09:55:12 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:55:12 +0200 Subject: [SEL] For the Aussies Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080424181238.00be2820@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, I hope you have all been keeping well - I've not been very active on the list of late - just been busy. A friend (fellow engine collector) of mine is emigrating to Aus (and I wish I could do the same) soon. He's going to settle in Brisbane as he has family there. He has asked me to ask my mates from Aus. (that's you guys) for some contact names of collectors and clubs in the Brisbane area as he would like to make contact with them. He does not have a great collection of engines but those engines that he does have do run beautifully. He builds aircraft for a living and is a perfectionist in whatever he does (except "paint jobs" - but that is another story - here's why ). His passions are (in order) 1) Aircraft & flying (he has the best restored "SAAB Safire" in the world - according to SAAB) This is going to Aus with him. 2) Motorcars (Mustang, Ford, Chev etc.) 3) Stationary engines. Although this one is only 3rd on the list it is the one he enjoys most because he says "the engine guys are the best" - but we all knew that already, didn't we !!! He is trying to establish which of his engines to take with - says "I'd rather take up the space in a container with 3 engines than a couch (sofa)." Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 24 10:16:53 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:16:53 +0200 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080424185859.00bf2510@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 24/04/2008, you wrote: >From: David Rotigel >Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! >To: The SEL email discussion list >I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama >quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in >rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for >comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off >topic! > >Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but >I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! > >See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > >PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! >PPS, Life is good! Hi Dave, Great stuff but I'm disappointed that you could not find a space on the "Tee Shirt" for a pic of a Maytag and Axe - that would have really made it "On Topic". Now a question to members. How do I save that video file? I'm using my laptop to connect at the moment and the sound is S--T !". I'd like to save the file and play it back on my Desktop computer so that I can hear what the "Old Geezer" has to say !!! (and what his voice sounds like). On the subject of "Elections", "Democracy" and suchlike, has anyone been watching the Zimbabwe elections ? Is this what all the "do gooders" and other "Ars----es" of the world envisaged when they abandoned us and imposed sanctions on us and forced us to hand over power to the illiterate masses ? Just wondering !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Apr 24 15:30:28 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:30:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lest we forget Message-ID: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> To all those who were lost at war To all those who survived To all their families LEST WE FORGET From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 24 17:10:48 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:10:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lest we forget In-Reply-To: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> References: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> Message-ID: <5B28DE5BB66744E8ACDE6A1200AA1ECB@KerryPC> Well said Peter. LEST WE FORGET > To all those who were lost at war > To all those who survived > To all their families > > LEST WE FORGET > _______________________________________________ From clemsweller at etczone.com Thu Apr 24 17:52:04 2008 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (chuck emsweller) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:52:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Now Engine Show In-Reply-To: <29650798.196781209045046081.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> References: <29650798.196781209045046081.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> Message-ID: <000f01c8a66e$94f078a0$bed169e0$@com> Reg, he would get my vote! Headed out first thing in the morning to the Hillbilly Flywheeler's show in Irvine, KY. Anyone else on the list going to be there? Chuck Emsweller Don't Fence Me In -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of mr at carolina.rr.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:51 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Amen to that!!!! ---- Tom Smith wrote: > I truly wish we had more Australians in America. The ones that I know > and especially those I've been associated with in the military are my > kind of people. > > Thanks, > Tom > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 > "R & M Ingold" wrote: > > Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of > >us!! > > (And I dont even live there) > > Reg & Marg Ingold. > > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > > > > > >> Dave, > >> Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all > >>wearing that > >> T- > >> shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind > >>of > >> worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to > >>him! > >> Proud of your choice Dave. > >> Curt Andree > >> > >> > >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > >> From: David Rotigel > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> > >> Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > >> > >>> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > >>> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > >>> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > >>> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > >>> topic! > >>> > >>> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > >>> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the > >>>video! > >>> > >>> See: > >>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > >>> PPS, Life is good! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date: 4/24/2008 7:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date: 4/24/2008 7:24 AM From johnculp at btes.tv Thu Apr 24 18:10:57 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:10:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1261b8ca8c2325d22f0ecbd73b8126e4@btes.tv> Congratulations, Dave, for coming out of the closet as a registered Democrat. I know that took a lot of courage. ;-) John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 24 20:29:49 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:29:49 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Lest we forget In-Reply-To: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> References: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> Message-ID: <4811502D.2080103@optusnet.com.au> Peter Lowe wrote: > To all those who were lost at war > To all those who survived > To all their families > > LEST WE FORGET === Well said, Peter. I have just returned from a 20 mile ride (each way)on my 1950 MAC Velo to an Anzac Service and parade at the old Midland Railway Workshops, where we have our Machinery Preservation Club clubrooms. The Club organises this for the local community, and puts on refreshments after. It was very well attended. JW? === From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Fri Apr 25 01:53:30 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:53:30 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test Message-ID: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> test From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri Apr 25 02:06:19 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:06:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> Message-ID: <20080425090618.YGUI14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Coming through loud and clear Cam. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- test From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Apr 25 03:56:29 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:56:29 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Some Galloway History Message-ID: Here's some nice history if you're a Gal Fan...read description: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320243999971 RickinMt. PS: Usual Disclaimer From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 25 04:22:12 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:22:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> References: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080425212115.02274818@ncable.com.au> Sorry to have to inform you Cam, But you test came through positive! Better sell up mate! Russ At 06:53 PM 25/04/2008, you wrote: >test > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Apr 25 06:03:28 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> References: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> Message-ID: <2145.165.206.180.192.1209128608.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> What? > test > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Apr 25 06:03:57 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <20080425090618.YGUI14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080425090618.YGUI14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <2153.165.206.180.192.1209128637.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Funny, I didn't hear anything, I had to read mine....... > Coming through loud and clear Cam. > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > -----Original Message----- > > test > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sat Apr 26 07:41:16 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:41:16 +0800 Subject: [SEL] woodsaw References: Message-ID: <000d01c8a7ab$9ac83f40$0301a8c0@acer8ff47bfe9a> Tom.....I run two computors that are supposed to recieve all mail .It gets confusing somtimes.Anyway going back through past mail I saw the request below.I have a mate just around the corner who amongst his collection has a device that lifets the rear axel so that the flat belt arrangement could be used .It is like the type of jacks they use in the fast pit stop for GPs . You have probably obtained what you wanted by now but if you so desire I can send a pic ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: [SEL] woodsaw >I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model > T's. The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set > on > which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn > powered a > belt pulley to the wood saw. I have received a call about one that I am > going > to see this weekend. It supposedly is all original and in excellent > condition. > > Thanks, > > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > Germoamer at aol.com > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 20:27:36 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <903901.99928.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the pictures. Just last Saturday at a huge auction I saw a genny just like that one sell. WELL,,,,, It would be just like that one,,,,, If it had all it's parts. Yup, Crank it up to 1800 RPM and it will give you 60HZ power. To get a 3KW 1800 RPM genny I would have grabbed that one if the ignition parts were there. It was missing some of the controls and all the exhaust parts too. It went for sixty five bucks. I wonder if the guy knew what he was buying. I am sick of listening to all the 3600 RPM generators at engine shows. I am thinking about finding some kind of 1 to 4 tranny so I could run a 3600 RPM genny from a 900 RPM car engine. I could make that engine run very quietly. 8>)) --- Listerdiesel wrote: > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial > 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx. > > Picked it up yesterday from a farm outside Stafford, took a few pic's: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red1.jpg > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red2.jpg > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red3.jpg > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red4.jpg > > "Red" in the filename is for "Reduced Size", not the colour of the Onan :-)) > > Needs a starting handle (but it also has electric start) and that > pattern on the head is welding of a frosted area. If anyone has a > starting handle spare, or can loan one for a pattern, let me know > please? > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 26 18:34:53 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:34:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080425212115.02274818@ncable.com.au> References: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> <7.0.1.0.1.20080425212115.02274818@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000001c8a806$e4cc6610$ae653230$@com.au> Thanks boys, much appreciated. Cheers Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:22 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] test Sorry to have to inform you Cam, But you test came through positive! Better sell up mate! Russ At 06:53 PM 25/04/2008, you wrote: >test > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheel at netconnect.com.au Sun Apr 27 04:31:28 2008 From: flywheel at netconnect.com.au (Mark Kennedy) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:31:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Hello, I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my nose/lungs!). Thanks! Regards, Mark Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Apr 27 04:55:15 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:55:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <3960F9B2-59FF-4313-93CA-368CF83195A2@alltel.net> Hi Mark, Soak them overnight in kerosene, then wipe the grease off, or simply soak them overnight in kerosene and the proper amount of Gunk (follow the directions on the Gunk can) and the next morning hose the grease off the spanners. Dave On Apr 27, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Mark Kennedy wrote: > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my > nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > Mark Kennedy > Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > > 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian > Railways' > > All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > *********************************************************** > Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before > opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. > Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the > negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly > from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to > resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions > expressed are those of the individual sender. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 27 05:31:39 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:31:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] woodsaw Message-ID: In a message dated 4/25/2008 7:36:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, jopeter at omninet.net.au writes: I have a mate just around the corner who amongst his collection has a device that lifets the rear axel so that the flat belt arrangement could be used . That is how the one I looked at works. Very interesting device. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From oiseming at moscow.com Sun Apr 27 06:59:22 2008 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:59:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a low setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic de-rusting tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kennedy Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:31 AM To: The SEL email discussion list; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners Hello, I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my nose/lungs!). Thanks! Regards, Mark Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ From kosh at ncweb.com Sun Apr 27 07:12:52 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:12:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080427101220.042fe520@ncweb.com> Long time since I've heard the term SWMBO! LOL! Dave At 09:59 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: >One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is >away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher >detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a low >setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. > >Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic de-rusting >tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to >lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. > >Orrin > >Orrin Iseminger >Colton, Washington, USA >http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm >So many projects. So little time. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kennedy >Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:31 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list; The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > >Hello, > >I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated >grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely >(ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my >nose/lungs!). > >Thanks! > >Regards, > >Mark >Mark Kennedy >Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > >Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. >http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > >'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' > >All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From kimmell at verizon.net Sun Apr 27 07:21:25 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:21:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <0JZZ00I96MDTVC95@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> I use the same process often, but to prevent marital stress I use my old Coleman camp stove. -Tony At 08:59 AM 4/27/2008, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is >away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher >detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a low >setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. > >Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic de-rusting >tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to >lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 27 08:07:19 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:07:19 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: Anyone have a good method of removing the tapered pins that hold the fuel butterfly to the shaft on a throttle Famous. Of course you cannot get to the back of the pins to drive them out, and the butterfly is down in the hole so can only grip them with vicegrips to pull out. Have heated/cooled thru several cycles to aid in breaking them loose. The are very small pins, so only have one or two good changes for removing them without breaking. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From shop at cccomm.net Sun Apr 27 09:33:53 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:33:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? Dave From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Apr 27 17:21:48 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:21:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: Hi Dave, A rooster IS a chicken, therefore your use of the term "or" is inappropriate in this case. Dave PS, A female chicken is a hen! PPS, It's easy to tell the difference between a rooster and a hen. PPPS, A hen lays eggs. PPPPS, A rooster does not lay eggs. PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds as well. PPPPPPS, The same is true for the term "hen." PPPPPPPS, Hope to see you at the Portland ATIS dinner and Charity Auction! On Apr 27, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Dave Ernst wrote: > Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to > resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. > > Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? > > Dave From stevebarr at ameritech.net Sun Apr 27 18:03:38 2008 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <631229.94771.qm@web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave Contact Bob Ronning. He has 2 sizes of the Jacob Haish Decal. His email is robron32 at juno.com He also has both sizes of the Sandwich decal for those looking. His friend makes them in Waterman, IL as Vinyl Cutouts/Screen Print. What size is your Chanticleer? I now have 3 Appletons...3, 4, and 6hp. There is a nice web site put up by a friend in DeKalb,IL dedicated to Jacob Haish built engines: http://www.jacobhaishmfg.org/ Steve --- Dave Ernst wrote: Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? Dave From wilson at stny.rr.com Sun Apr 27 18:10:03 2008 From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:10:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 4 cylinder Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <5B28DE5BB66744E8ACDE6A1200AA1ECB@KerryPC> Message-ID: I am cleaning out a bunch of junk. The junk includes a 4 cylinder Wisconsin engine. It is in sad shape - not even sure if it turns over. Anyone who would like to come get it, can have it free. After I pick it out of from the other side of the iron, I'll see if it turns over, and take some pictures. Glenn Wilson Endicott, NY From Frank at lbpinc.com Sun Apr 27 18:15:25 2008 From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:15:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Advise on Pelton Air Compressor Message-ID: <20080428011626.546BD57EA1@gw1.nlenet.net> I have picked up a Pelton Air Compressor It works fine, I have cleaned it up and lubed it and it is ready for the shows. It looks like this one on Ebay 170211491858 My questions, what sort of maintenance does it need? The piston looks like it has grease in it, is that part of how it seals? Does anyone have a manual? How does the one way valve work? Thanks. BTW I think it will be fun at shows, Open crank, flat belt, and a neat noise. Frank Frank DeWitt Light plant WEB page http://www.oldengine.org/members/frank Mechanical Design mailto:frank at lbpinc.com LBP INC. Phone: 585 624 3052 2365 Cox Rd. Fax 585 624 1038 Bloomfield NY 14469 Web http://www.lbpinc.com From skipl130 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 18:38:14 2008 From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 4 cylinder Wisconsin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <555413.56217.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi Glenn, can you contact me off list? thanks, skip Glenn Wilson wrote: I am cleaning out a bunch of junk. The junk includes a 4 cylinder Wisconsin engine. It is in sad shape - not even sure if it turns over. Anyone who would like to come get it, can have it free. After I pick it out of from the other side of the iron, I'll see if it turns over, and take some pictures. Glenn Wilson Endicott, NY _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Apr 27 19:06:41 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:06:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:21 PM, David Rotigel wrote: > > PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds > as well. Dave, Is a male turkey called a rooster? From enginepaul at gmail.com Sun Apr 27 21:31:56 2008 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:31:56 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0804272131r65a88594n72cbb0163cd7001e@mail.gmail.com> Why does a city boy have to answer this? When referring to chickens, which are poultry, you will find that a male is a cock and a female is a hen when they are mature. ( Grandpa had a farm in Brownsville, PA.) Paul, Still straight in SanFran From old_iron at msn.com Sun Apr 27 22:04:53 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:04:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is also a hotel/casino very near to the show grounds also. Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:12 -0700> From: stevebarr at ameritech.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August!> > George> > Here is a link to the map page on the club's web site.> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/maps.htm> > You can then click on the yahoo maps link to view a map of the area.> > Steve> > --- "Best, George" wrote:> > > Curt,> > > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for> > this show?> > > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at> > Baraboo on Saturday.> > > > George> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of> > cgandree at mchsi.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM> > To: The SEL email discussion list> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August!> > > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before.> > SEL > > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year.> > Curt Andree> > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the> > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and> > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient> > or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are> > hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly> > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please> > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any> > attachments from your system.> > > > _______________________________________________> > SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plb at iinet.net.au Sun Apr 27 22:05:56 2008 From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:05:56 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <004a01c8a8ed$8ad77270$a0865750$@net.au> Thanks for this important information. In light of this ground breaking exposition can you fill us in as to what a chook is and whether or not its an egg laying critter? Ray Freeman -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 8:22 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine Hi Dave, A rooster IS a chicken, therefore your use of the term "or" is inappropriate in this case. Dave PS, A female chicken is a hen! PPS, It's easy to tell the difference between a rooster and a hen. PPPS, A hen lays eggs. PPPPS, A rooster does not lay eggs. PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds as well. PPPPPPS, The same is true for the term "hen." PPPPPPPS, Hope to see you at the Portland ATIS dinner and Charity Auction! On Apr 27, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Dave Ernst wrote: > Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to > resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. > > Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? > > Dave _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun Apr 27 23:57:17 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:57:17 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002001c8a8fd$4a123a80$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> As Peg and I found out! (Ha! Now work on that one!) Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Pfeiffer Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > > There is also a hotel/casino very near to the show grounds also. > > Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:12 -0700> From: > stevebarr at ameritech.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: > [SEL] Portland show in August!> > George> > Here is a link to the map page > on the club's web site.> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/maps.htm> > > You can then click on the yahoo maps link to view a map of the area.> > > Steve> > --- "Best, George" wrote:> > > Curt,> > > > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for> > > this show?> > > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out > and could be at> > Baraboo on Saturday.> > > > George> > > > -----Original > Message-----> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of> > > cgandree at mchsi.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM> > To: The > SEL email discussion list> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August!> > > > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show th! > e week before.> > SEL > > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year.> > > Curt Andree> > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended > only for the use of the> > addressee and may contain information that is > privileged and> > confidential. 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If you have received this > communication in error, please> > notify us immediately by e-mail and > delete the message and any> > attachments from your system.> > > > > _______________________________________________> > SEL mailing list> > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From michael.y at ozemail.com.au Mon Apr 28 02:55:01 2008 From: michael.y at ozemail.com.au (Michael Young) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:55:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Aussie auction results anyone? Message-ID: For the aussies, did anyone make it to the auction last Wednesday 23rd down Albury way? Be interesting to know what the 4 australs fetched. Michael Young 5 Beech Cr Orange NSW 2800 Australia From michael.y at ozemail.com.au Mon Apr 28 03:02:48 2008 From: michael.y at ozemail.com.au (Michael Young) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:02:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <1DEDEFF4C5E24610A5D2BFFE75689957@Young0208> Mark, my fav degreaser is CT18 which I get from supa cheap auto. Do not wash your face or hands in it and you'll be OK. If you want a real nasty degreaser, then "Draino" is great or oven cleaner. Mike Orange ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kennedy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my > nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > Mark Kennedy > Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > > 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' > > All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > *********************************************************** > Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before > opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. > Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the > negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly > from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to > resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions > expressed are those of the individual sender. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Apr 28 03:35:56 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:35:56 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford Message-ID: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> It is a bit quiet around here at the moment. As a bit of a change from engines I took out my 1928 Model A Ford to the National Rally at Bathurst on the weekend before last. This year marks 80 years of the Model A and there were around 200 cars at the rally. I did manage to sneak in a few looks at engines along the way ;) Here is my partner Ann and I with my car: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0804210020.JPG Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Apr 28 05:02:12 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <1DEDEFF4C5E24610A5D2BFFE75689957@Young0208> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <1DEDEFF4C5E24610A5D2BFFE75689957@Young0208> Message-ID: <3042.165.206.180.192.1209384132.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I just toss stuff into my solvent tank, which has mineral spirits for solvent. Just like I toss any of my engine, car or tractor parts............ Bill > Mark, my fav degreaser is CT18 which I get from supa cheap auto. Do not > wash your face or hands in it and you'll be OK. If you want a real nasty > degreaser, then "Draino" is great or oven cleaner. > > Mike > Orange > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Kennedy" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; > "The > SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:31 PM > Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > > >> Hello, >> >> I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated >> grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely >> (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my >> nose/lungs!). >> >> Thanks! >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark >> Mark Kennedy >> Ballarat, Victoria, Australia >> >> Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy >> >> 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' >> >> All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ >> >> *********************************************************** >> Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If >> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before >> opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. >> Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the >> negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly >> from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to >> resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions >> expressed are those of the individual sender. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Apr 28 05:06:00 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <3075.165.206.180.192.1209384360.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Yes, like I clean rusty, greasy engine and car parts. http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp It can be done on a large scale or with multiple pieces. Bill > One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is > away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher > detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a > low > setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. > > Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic > de-rusting > tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to > lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kennedy > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:31 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list; The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my > nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > Mark Kennedy > Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > > 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' > > All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Mon Apr 28 05:11:16 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:11:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <4815BEE4.9050409@steamengine.com.au> You're lucky mate - most of us only have the one spanner to keep clean :). Use your parts washer! Paul Mark Kennedy wrote: > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > From shop at cccomm.net Mon Apr 28 06:01:46 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:01:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com><001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl><20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au><007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <00e301c8a930$04233640$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" PPPPPPS, The same is true for the term "hen." You forgot peacock-----peahen------ PPPPPPPS, Hope to see you at the Portland ATIS dinner and Charity Auction! Nope, sorry because the location is on the WRONG side of the Mississippi!!!!!!! Dave From rotigel at alltel.net Mon Apr 28 09:31:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:31:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine/now turkeys In-Reply-To: <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> On Apr 27, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:21 PM, David Rotigel wrote: >> >> PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds >> as well. > > Dave, > Is a male turkey called a rooster? Rob, "Often" is the operative term in this context! Dave PS, On the other hand, if it's your turkey you can call it anything you want. From shop at cccomm.net Mon Apr 28 12:45:59 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:45:59 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine References: <631229.94771.qm@web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010701c8a968$7b668b70$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> I don't own this engine, just posted the question for a friend whom purchased it last week in Tulare, Ca. I'll be sure he gets this info, Thanks Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine Dave Contact Bob Ronning. He has 2 sizes of the Jacob Haish Decal. His email is robron32 at juno.com He also has both sizes of the Sandwich decal for those looking. His friend makes them in Waterman, IL as Vinyl Cutouts/Screen Print. What size is your Chanticleer? I now have 3 Appletons...3, 4, and 6hp. There is a nice web site put up by a friend in DeKalb,IL dedicated to Jacob Haish built engines: http://www.jacobhaishmfg.org/ Steve --- Dave Ernst wrote: Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? Dave _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 28 16:04:28 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:04:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] IH Pump Jack In-Reply-To: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080428185656.034bb7f0@pop3.wcoil.com> Theres still a few odds n ends around here. I found this Saturday at a farm auction near Tiffin Ohio. Wish the rest of it was there but better part of it then none of it. Mark http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/ihpj1.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/ihpj2.jpg Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From nancydick at pennswoods.net Mon Apr 28 19:16:34 2008 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:16:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford In-Reply-To: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <20080428231700.A9C0F229D0D@md5.pennswoods.net> Patrick you need to shine up that trailer some. You can't drive around a great looking lady and great old car on that. 8-) R Fink At 08:35 PM 4/28/2008 +1000, you wrote: >It is a bit quiet around here at the moment. >As a bit of a change from engines I took out my 1928 Model A Ford to the >National Rally at Bathurst on the weekend before last. This year marks 80 >years of the Model A and there were around 200 cars at the rally. I did >manage to sneak in a few looks at engines along the way ;) >Here is my partner Ann and I with my car: >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0804210020.JPG > > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: >4/28/2008 7:18 AM > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: >4/28/2008 7:18 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: 4/28/2008 7:18 AM From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Apr 28 16:48:28 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:48:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine/now turkeys In-Reply-To: <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> Message-ID: <0F2283F8-F399-4469-991E-8E8A27F41F75@rustyiron.com> On Apr 28, 2008, at 9:31 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > > PS, On the other hand, if it's your turkey you can call it anything > you want. I suppose you could call a turkey anything you want, Dave. Do you have turkeys in Pennsylvania? Can you tell the difference between the voice of a hen turkey and your so-called rooster turkey? From rotigel at alltel.net Mon Apr 28 17:21:32 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:21:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine/now turkeys In-Reply-To: <0F2283F8-F399-4469-991E-8E8A27F41F75@rustyiron.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> <0F2283F8-F399-4469-991E-8E8A27F41F75@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 9:31 AM, David Rotigel wrote: >> >> PS, On the other hand, if it's your turkey you can call it anything >> you want. > > I suppose you could call a turkey anything you want, Dave. Do you > have turkeys in Pennsylvania? Yes > Can you tell the difference between the > voice of a hen turkey and your so-called rooster turkey? Yes Dave From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Apr 28 18:35:48 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:35:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford References: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000601c8a999$59f29660$726f4b47@mikecomp> What a beauty! And the car is excellent too. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford > It is a bit quiet around here at the moment. > As a bit of a change from engines I took out my 1928 Model A Ford to the > National Rally at Bathurst on the weekend before last. This year marks 80 > years of the Model A and there were around 200 cars at the rally. I did > manage to sneak in a few looks at engines along the way ;) > Here is my partner Ann and I with my car: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0804210020.JPG > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Tue Apr 29 17:54:45 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:54:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New toy Message-ID: <20080429205445.92BW7.141727.root@fepweb06> I've always said that my lathe wasn't my limiting factor, now more so than ever. I found a "new" lathe. It's a Wade 8A Precision Lathe, probably manufactured in the early 50's. This model was produced from 1919 to 1959, they made 850 in 40 years, mine is # 569. It's variable speed with a tach, 0-2000rpms, came with a set of round collets from 1/32 to 1". I want to get an operators manual, but I have to catch my breath first, wasn't the best time to buy this but I didn't want to miss it. Pictures of the lathe should be at the site below. http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-022S-1.jpg http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-021S-1.jpg http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-020S-2.jpg Here's a site that talks a little about it. http://www.lathes.co.uk/wade/page12.html J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Apr 30 02:28:43 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New toy References: <20080429205445.92BW7.141727.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <00f301c8aaa4$d799abb0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> >From where I stand, that is one NICE toy!!! Man, ya gotta be on top of the world having that in your playroom. I am jealous!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: [SEL] New toy > I've always said that my lathe wasn't my limiting factor, now more so than > ever. I found a "new" lathe. It's a Wade 8A Precision Lathe, probably > manufactured in the early 50's. This model was produced from 1919 to 1959, > they made 850 in 40 years, mine is # 569. It's variable speed with a tach, > 0-2000rpms, came with a set of round collets from 1/32 to 1". I want to > get an operators manual, but I have to catch my breath first, wasn't the > best time to buy this but I didn't want to miss it. Pictures of the lathe > should be at the site below. > > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-022S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-021S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-020S-2.jpg > > Here's a site that talks a little about it. > > http://www.lathes.co.uk/wade/page12.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Apr 30 03:46:30 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:46:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New toy References: <20080429205445.92BW7.141727.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <003c01c8aaaf$73518460$726f4b47@mikecomp> Can't wait to see what comes out of the shop now! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [SEL] New toy > I've always said that my lathe wasn't my limiting factor, now more so than > ever. I found a "new" lathe. It's a Wade 8A Precision Lathe, probably > manufactured in the early 50's. This model was produced from 1919 to 1959, > they made 850 in 40 years, mine is # 569. It's variable speed with a tach, > 0-2000rpms, came with a set of round collets from 1/32 to 1". I want to > get an operators manual, but I have to catch my breath first, wasn't the > best time to buy this but I didn't want to miss it. Pictures of the lathe > should be at the site below. > > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-022S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-021S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-020S-2.jpg > > Here's a site that talks a little about it. > > http://www.lathes.co.uk/wade/page12.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Wed Apr 30 18:23:43 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:23:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New toy In-Reply-To: <014801c8ab20$3b6f9250$7501a8c0@LapTop> Message-ID: <20080430212343.FN048.446859.root@fepweb15> ---- R & M Ingold wrote: > >From where I stand, that is one NICE toy!!! Man, ya gotta be on top of the > world having that in your playroom. > I am jealous!! > Reg & Marg Ingold. If it meets Reg's approval, I guess I did OK. I'm working on my playroom, a 3400 sq ft metal building. It was given to me by one of the local chemical companies, just had to take it down and move it. It's almost finished, insulated and 3 phase power. It came with pallet racks and shelving. ---- Mike Royster wrote: > Can't wait to see what comes out of the shop now!< Mike, I've been busy in the shop, my biggest problem is my inability to say no. Working on pouring rod bearings for a 33 Pontiac straight eight. Have the jigs made, need to prep the rods and pour. Told him I'd try one and see if he's satisfied, if so I'll do the rest. ---- ArthurDeana Southwell wrote: > J.B., > That's a good looking lathe. Enjoy! > > Will you be going to Portland this year? > > C'ya, > Art I think It'll be fun Art. We're planning to make the round, Mystic, CT the week befroe then on to Portland. Fuel prices may alter this type of trip in the future. I'm thinking about an alluminum trailer, my gooseneck weighs 4000lbws empty We're going to Calvert, MD next week. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Apr 30 19:26:25 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:26:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New toy References: <20080430212343.FN048.446859.root@fepweb15> Message-ID: <002701c8ab32$c531d130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> You are right about the costs. I paid for my flights a few weeks back. Already, I would be up for many hundreds of $$ if I wanted to buy the seats now. Age and increased prices have put me where I didnt want to be. At the wallet's lining!! Over here, the attendance at shows is dropping. Both by the public and exhibitors. Soon enough we will be back to the days of a few playing together in small local groups. It was good while it lasted. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ---- ArthurDeana Southwell wrote: >> J.B., >> That's a good looking lathe. Enjoy! >> >> Will you be going to Portland this year? >> >> C'ya, >> Art > > I think It'll be fun Art. We're planning to make the round, Mystic, CT the > week befroe then on to Portland. Fuel prices may alter this type of trip > in the future. I'm thinking about an alluminum trailer, my gooseneck > weighs 4000lbws empty We're going to Calvert, MD next week. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > From nancydick at pennswoods.net Tue Apr 1 07:03:12 2008 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:03:12 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field In-Reply-To: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98> References: <47F14F3A.000003.03832@USER-67E31DDA98> Message-ID: <20080401110730.A84CF22998D@md5.pennswoods.net> Hi Arnie that first one in the photo line up. I have one of them it is last year they were made 1922. When i tell people it is a Cleveland they just look and say what is that never heard of them. R Fink At 09:53 AM 4/1/2008 +1300, you wrote: >Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not >all vintage > Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery > > > Regards to all >Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz > Mahia > NZ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: >3/29/2008 5:02 PM > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: >3/29/2008 5:02 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: 3/29/2008 5:02 PM From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 1 07:36:14 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:36:14 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <20080331205845.3VPY1.26359.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: Years ago, I scraped-in the mains on an American LaFrance 4-cylinder engine and used an old half-round file that I'd polished-up with a belt sander. I've still got it and it is SHARP as I've found when not being careful about handling it. I've used the lapping compound after scraping bearings for a semi-fit. It works fine but I don't buy their statement that you don't have to clean it out of a bearing. Except for fitting parts, I always wash out the gritty stuff. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jbcast at charter.net > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 07:59 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > > > > > I'll give you an old hacksaw blade that can be > sharpened so you can > > scrape your own bearings. > > > > > Rob, I'm doing a set of main brgs right now, my > favorite scraper is a used piston ring. They wear > sharp, hold it between your fingers and thumbs > and you can rotate it to fit the curve of the > bearing, scrapes an easy to control amount. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 1 08:22:02 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:22:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gang: Here I go again, talking to myself! I didn't see this sentence 'til I read in on the rerun. Doesn't make sense (so, what else is new?!). What I MEANT to say is that I always wash out lapping compounds, even the ones that are advised as safe to leave-in. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Elden > DuRand > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 09:36 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > ..........................snip......................... > Except for fitting parts, I always wash out the gritty stuff. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Apr 1 08:25:17 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:25:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] ATIS Auctions: Dead In-Reply-To: <222609.22904.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <222609.22904.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is what's being discussed among non-ATIS engine men. How about a little peer pressure to help get this problem solved? We pulled together to try to get Reg's money back from Bob Bromps, let's help Craig receive justice. Alan Bowen, you can stick the pliers in a reinforced envelope, put the appropriate postage on it, and you don't even need to go to the post office. I do it all the time. The mail man will take anything you give him. Spencer Yost, since the donated money hasn't been given to charity yet, how about sending Craig a refund? This seems like a simple problem to resolve. Just do it. Rob On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Craig Mathews wrote: > I understand the concept. I understand Fraud as well. Another set of > pliers will not fix this. I can get a pair of Blue Handled Fence > pliers anywhere, but not those pliers with all the history and items > that go with it. I can't say that it is indeed the "WFITBHFP's. Then > I'd be out the pliers, the cost of another set of pliers which would > mean absolutely nothing to me. I'd be happier if they send the $$ > back with shipping costs. I have e-mailed, called the auctioneer to > no avail. All I get is excuses as to why someone can't take a bloody > packed box to a post office and ship it after 3 months. > If I ran my auctions this way on e-bay, I would have been kicked off > e-bay and probably looking at mail fraud as well. I really do > appreciate the auction, and that it is a charity. But would you run > one like this and be able to say it's a good charity auction to bid > on? > Besides, I've had enough. I am filing with the USPS today and they > can figure it out. That's what my taxes pay for. From glenn.karch at att.net Tue Apr 1 09:06:21 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field Message-ID: <687284.93914.qm@web83719.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To bad they didn't have another caterpillar race. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: Arnie To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:53:14 PM Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not all vintage Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery Regards to all Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz Mahia NZ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 1 09:38:46 2008 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:38:46 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field References: <687284.93914.qm@web83719.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01c89416$de295060$25c20b52@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Karch" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > To bad they didn't have another caterpillar race. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Arnie > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:53:14 PM > Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > > Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not > all vintage Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery > Regards to all > Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz > Mahia > NZ Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. Does anyone remember the source of the picture? see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Apr 1 10:00:20 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] ATIS Auctions: Dead In-Reply-To: References: <222609.22904.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1893.165.206.180.134.1207069220.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> You can even buy and print postage online......... Our little post office LOVES it if you use the carrier for things like that. Apparently, these tiny little towns are always at risk of losing the post office. If we buy stamps, or send packages through the carrier, it must count for something as they said "no, don't go into DSM and mail that, just leave it in the box with a note. So we do, and usually clip a couple bucks to it, or whatever. They carry change.......... I also keep a couple of flat-rate boxes on hand. > This is what's being discussed among non-ATIS engine men. How about a > little peer pressure to help get this problem solved? We pulled > together to try to get Reg's money back from Bob Bromps, let's help > Craig receive justice. > > Alan Bowen, you can stick the pliers in a reinforced envelope, put the > appropriate postage on it, and you don't even need to go to the post > office. I do it all the time. The mail man will take anything you > give him. > > Spencer Yost, since the donated money hasn't been given to charity > yet, how about sending Craig a refund? > > This seems like a simple problem to resolve. Just do it. > > Rob > > > > On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Craig Mathews wrote: > >> I understand the concept. I understand Fraud as well. Another set of >> pliers will not fix this. I can get a pair of Blue Handled Fence >> pliers anywhere, but not those pliers with all the history and items >> that go with it. I can't say that it is indeed the "WFITBHFP's. Then >> I'd be out the pliers, the cost of another set of pliers which would >> mean absolutely nothing to me. I'd be happier if they send the $$ >> back with shipping costs. I have e-mailed, called the auctioneer to >> no avail. All I get is excuses as to why someone can't take a bloody >> packed box to a post office and ship it after 3 months. >> If I ran my auctions this way on e-bay, I would have been kicked off >> e-bay and probably looking at mail fraud as well. I really do >> appreciate the auction, and that it is a charity. But would you run >> one like this and be able to say it's a good charity auction to bid >> on? >> Besides, I've had enough. I am filing with the USPS today and they >> can figure it out. That's what my taxes pay for. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From George_Best at adp.com Tue Apr 1 10:34:13 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:34:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field In-Reply-To: <001b01c89416$de295060$25c20b52@intrepid> References: <687284.93914.qm@web83719.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001b01c89416$de295060$25c20b52@intrepid> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590679D85C@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Dave, I think that picture was taken in South Africa at one of the attempts to set the record for the most tractors plowing at the same time. I know the record was set at one time in South Africa, but don't know if they still hold it or not. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:39 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Karch" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > To bad they didn't have another caterpillar race. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Arnie > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:53:14 PM > Subject: [SEL] 503 crawlers in one field > > Hi to all on the list,just thought this may be of interest,not > all vintage Have a look at www.wovintage.co.nz and bring up the photo gallery > Regards to all > Arnie Laird zl1cax at quicksilver.net.nz > Mahia > NZ Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. Does anyone remember the source of the picture? see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Apr 1 21:57:32 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:57:32 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT New Google Search Message-ID: <20080402045704.HKUK10585.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/gday/index.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From brock at netspeed.com.au Wed Apr 2 01:56:29 2008 From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:56:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics Message-ID: <47f34a3d.3.3901.1806608630@netspeed.com.au> thanks for takeing the pics ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:45:36 +1100 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Apr 2 13:53:19 2008 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:53:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <20080331200615.U913B.24210.root@fepweb08> References: <20080331200615.U913B.24210.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: <2027.168.215.206.73.1207169599.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> William, Why would you lap Babbitt when it is SO easy to scrape? With any lapping compound you will affect the surface of the steel shaft too. You will no longer have a highly polished bright steel surface. Not the most desirable to run on Babbitt. Curt Holland > > ---- William Young wrote: >> FYI, Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound. >> After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman >> Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label >> product. I was surprised, to say the least. >> Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189 >> 2 one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits 131 >> Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles 25 >> Total: $345 a bit much for one con rod bearing. I may down size to >> a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased >> and used this product. Comments? >> Bill in Japan > Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I > use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping > compound. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 3 01:01:35 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:01:35 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Tractor picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080403092649.00bda440@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 02/04/2008, you wrote: >Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. >Does anyone remember the source of the picture? >see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg >Dave Croft >Warrington >http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv Hi Dave, As George mentioned - it may have been in South Africa - but I think this may have been at one of the other tractor record events - probably Australia. It all started in April 1999 at Sandstone Estates here in South Africa with the first world record for the number of vintage tractors "working" in 1 field (109 tractors). They had to have a ground implement attached. This event was called the "Great 100 Working" Aus passed this total in 2001 with 298 tractors and Sandstone held their next attempt in April 2002 and pushed the total up to 755 tractors.This event was called the "Great 400 Working". Since then there have been a number of other events in Aus, Ireland and (I think) England. The current record holder is Ireland - they had a massive event last year and the total of tractors was something like 2000 (not sure exactly) (Sandstone actually sent tractors to this event and participated as they had also done in Aus.) There is talk of another attempt in Canada sometime in the future. I do not think that we (South Africa) will try again because we just do not have that many vintage tractors although the original concept of "working VINTAGE tractors" seems to have become a bit corrupted with more modern machines and even things like "ride on mowers" taking part in some of the later events. There is a good article here: I'm off to Sandstone next week for their annual "Cosmos Festival". Will be helping to start and run some of their Stationary engine collection. We always have a great time there and they look after us collectors very well - accomodation - good food etc. You can read about a previous one I attended on my site here: Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From page at velocitynet.com.au Thu Apr 3 02:42:16 2008 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:42:16 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tractor picture In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20080403092649.00bda440@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <000301c8956f$00d337d0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Not sure but I think it was the one taken in OZ at the time they broke the record. I think at Cootamundra. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 7:02 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Tractor picture At 06:00 PM 02/04/2008, you wrote: >Seeing these pictures reminded me of a picture I copied a few years ago. >Does anyone remember the source of the picture? >see http://image14.webshots.com/15/2/61/31/158326131SVpHWz_ph.jpg >Dave Croft >Warrington >http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv Hi Dave, As George mentioned - it may have been in South Africa - but I think this may have been at one of the other tractor record events - probably Australia. It all started in April 1999 at Sandstone Estates here in South Africa with the first world record for the number of vintage tractors "working" in 1 field (109 tractors). They had to have a ground implement attached. This event was called the "Great 100 Working" Aus passed this total in 2001 with 298 tractors and Sandstone held their next attempt in April 2002 and pushed the total up to 755 tractors.This event was called the "Great 400 Working". Since then there have been a number of other events in Aus, Ireland and (I think) England. The current record holder is Ireland - they had a massive event last year and the total of tractors was something like 2000 (not sure exactly) (Sandstone actually sent tractors to this event and participated as they had also done in Aus.) There is talk of another attempt in Canada sometime in the future. I do not think that we (South Africa) will try again because we just do not have that many vintage tractors although the original concept of "working VINTAGE tractors" seems to have become a bit corrupted with more modern machines and even things like "ride on mowers" taking part in some of the later events. There is a good article here: I'm off to Sandstone next week for their annual "Cosmos Festival". Will be helping to start and run some of their Stationary engine collection. We always have a great time there and they look after us collectors very well - accomodation - good food etc. You can read about a previous one I attended on my site here: Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 30/12/2007 11:27 AM From shop at cccomm.net Thu Apr 3 06:35:08 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:35:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FM T Cooling tower References: Message-ID: <001001c8958f$89702830$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Here's a couple of pic's showing a cooling tower and pump I installed on my engine. It's going to the Tulare show in a couple of weeks. Comments appreciated, Dave https://tractorman.photoshop.com/?galleryid=0a5e145370ee460480c8f285d0a984f3&trackingid=BTAGC&wf=share From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 09:28:02 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <2027.168.215.206.73.1207169599.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Curt-san, You asked, "Why?" Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which I have. The write-up by producers of this product indicate complete matching of surfaces, that the steel is not affected, only the Babbitt. Further, that the abrasive element of the compound morphs from abrasive to lubracative. Does the easy scraping method you refer to involve repetitively using Prussian Blue to identify high spots, scraping, rebluing ... until the degree of mating surfaces exceeds 80%? Please tell me more. I may give it a shot. Thanks, Bill curt at rustyiron.com wrote: William, Why would you lap Babbitt when it is SO easy to scrape? With any lapping compound you will affect the surface of the steel shaft too. You will no longer have a highly polished bright steel surface. Not the most desirable to run on Babbitt. Curt Holland > > ---- William Young wrote: >> FYI, Some time back there was discussion re a bearing lapping compound. >> After a couple tries I finally received an email response from Newman >> Tools to my inquiry re price and availability of their yellow label >> product. I was surprised, to say the least. >> Their sampler kit of 8 three oz. cans of various grits: $189 >> 2 one lb. each cans of medium and fine grits 131 >> Shipping, handling, insurance to Los Angeles 25 >> Total: $345 a bit much for one con rod bearing. I may down size to >> a single can of medium after hearing if anyone has actually purchased >> and used this product. Comments? >> Bill in Japan > Bill, Mcmaster Carr has it for $25 for a 1lb can, I've seen it cheaper. I > use the yellow label 120 medium grit. Google McMaster Carr, search lapping > compound. J.B. Castagnos J.B.-SAN, I SENT EMAIL TO McMASTER-CARR ASKING FOR CONFIRMATION OF PRICE AND AVAILABILITY OF THEIR PRODUCT ( I GAVE THEIR PART NUMBER PER THEIR ON-LINE CATALOG) FOR PICK UP AT THEIR WILL CALL DESK IN SANTA FE SPRINGS, CA. SEEING MY JAPANESE ADDRESS AND NOT BOTHERING TO READ MY TEXT, THE PERCEPTIVE LADY ANSWERING MY EMAIL TOLD ME THAT, DUE TO EVER INCREASING COMPLEXITY OF U.S. GOVERNMENT EXPORT REGULATIONS, M-C COULD NOT ACCEPT MY ORDER. I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE FOR MY EMAIL DIRECTED TO A SUPERVISOR SUGGESTING THAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE LITERATE IN ENGLISH RESPONDING TO INQUIRIES. From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu Apr 3 11:26:15 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:26:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004b01c895b8$349721a0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> I find it very difficult to believe that there is an abrasive that "morphs from abrasive to lubracative." How about some more details. One other question about bearing lapping, how do you get the abrasive that is imbedded into the babbitt out? The lapping process depends on the softer material becoming charged with the abrasive and cutting the harder material not the other way around as has been stated. I would not touch babbitt lapping with a ten foot pole. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. replace nomore with net to send mail jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Young" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound Curt-san, You asked, "Why?" Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which I have. The write-up by producers of this product indicate complete matching of surfaces, that the steel is not affected, only the Babbitt. Further, that the abrasive element of the compound morphs from abrasive to lubracative. Does the easy scraping method you refer to involve repetitively using Prussian Blue to identify high spots, scraping, rebluing ... until the degree of mating surfaces exceeds 80%? Please tell me more. I may give it a shot. Thanks, Bill From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 3 13:44:27 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:44:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <004b01c895b8$349721a0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: Jim: The instructions say that the lapping material (comes dry and you mix it to a paste in oil) does not imbed in either metal. I found when lapping bearings in a F-M 1-1/2hp Z the crankpin diameters did not decrease by any measureable amount. Sure, the shaft and bearings weren't shiny when I finished. Before running it, I had the bearings set-up for a moderate drag which lessened quite a bit after the first run. If I were really curious, I'd pull a bearing cap after about the three hours running the engine's got on it and have a look. If the manufacturer of the compound is right, the finish should be shiny on the crankpins and nearly so on the bearings. But I'm retired and lazy! :-) BTW, after the first short run, when I turned the grease cups, the grease came out of the journals black so I turned 'til it was clean, wiped up the mess and now, after the rest of the running, the grease is almost completely clean coming out, so I'd guess that no more lapping is occuring. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of JIM KIRKES > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 01:26 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > I find it very difficult to believe that there is an > abrasive that "morphs from abrasive to lubracative." How > about some more details. One other question > about bearing > lapping, how do you get the abrasive that is > imbedded into > the babbitt out? The lapping process depends on > the softer > material becoming charged with the abrasive and > cutting the > harder material not the other way around as has > been stated. > I would not touch babbitt lapping with a ten foot pole. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 3 13:27:21 2008 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:27:21 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics In-Reply-To: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080331104512.IRNL14722.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: Nice pictures Patrick. Do you know anything about the picture of the Baker Monitor on page 4? I have been watching for photos of them since I recently acquired one for my collection. Is that a homemade pump outfit? If it is do you know what it is made of on the inside? Just curious because it looks like a very nice display. Ed Herreid> From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:45:36 +1100> Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can081.html> > > Patrick M Livingstone> Leichhardt NSW> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html> > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 3 16:00:16 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:00:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: > Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which > I have. Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap convenient for scraping. The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can shave babbitt. I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. Party on, ?????? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 3 17:35:09 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:35:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob: I ran out of layout dye when I quit the machine shop job and went into broadcast engineering (over 40 years ago). What I've used since then is magic markers. Sharpies work nice and the color selection makes sure you won't get hue deprived. Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 06:00 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: > > Answer: I think scraping takes skill & > experience, neither of which > > I have. > > Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither > of those are required. > > JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a > thing or two about > engines, so listen when he types. I've used an > old hacksaw blade, but > you can use any hunk of metal that you can > sharpen into a shap > convenient for scraping. > > The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have > to worry about > accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If > you're capable of > shaving your face without ending up with a sink > full of blood, you can > shave babbitt. > > I've been working out of the same quart of > Starrett layout dye that > I've had for the last 25 years, but you can > probaby substitute any > kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. > > Party on, > ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Apr 3 16:36:30 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:36:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I usually just want a good bearing job. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Rob Skinner wrote: >On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: > > >>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>I have. >> >> > >Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. > >JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >convenient for scraping. > >The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >shave babbitt. > >I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. > >Party on, >?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Thu Apr 3 22:28:43 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:28:43 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Canberra Rally Pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080404052841.FXVY24880.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Ed, I don't know much on that particular engine. I am not sure if the pumpjack is original or not. Here is a pic of Edd Payne's engine with an original Monitor pumpjack: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/otherengines/03061431.JPG I have one of these engines but no pumpjack for it :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- Nice pictures Patrick. Do you know anything about the picture of the Baker Monitor on page 4? I have been watching for photos of them since I recently acquired one for my collection. Is that a homemade pump outfit? If it is do you know what it is made of on the inside? Just curious because it looks like a very nice display. Ed Herreid From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Apr 4 16:25:02 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:25:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound Message-ID: In a message dated 4/3/2008 7:45:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 thousandths Tommy, That is a new way of making bearings I have never hear of. Sounds like a very simple and effective way of making bearings. Thanks for the tip! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 4 17:46:30 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:46:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F6CBE6.1060405@scrtc.com> Tom, Its worked good for me. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 4/3/2008 7:45:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, >lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: > >Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >thousandths > > >Tommy, > >That is a new way of making bearings I have never hear of. Sounds like a >very simple and effective way of making bearings. > >Thanks for the tip! > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > >**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Apr 4 19:25:25 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:25:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom????? Message-ID: <82E9E14F-B250-42FE-831D-8CFECD7B011F@alltel.net> Will someone please send me John Cullom's snail off list? I have a Galloway "Certificate of Guarantee" for a 12 HP engine (1915) and wish to send him a copy of that certificate. Thanks! Dave -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Apr 4 19:34:15 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:34:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Reg's Next Model? Message-ID: <9655A300-49A5-4BBB-9A86-F6EF28A41C4A@alltel.net> See: http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/04/ post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html -------- David Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net From mcghee9 at comcast.net Sat Apr 5 14:20:05 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 17:20:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do your oil grooves in the bushing? Carl McGhee Battle Creek Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its > bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 > thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from > McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 > halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back > on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold > them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals > with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually > do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it > cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or > oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done > this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect > bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if > someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll > want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I > usually just want a good bearing job. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > Rob Skinner wrote: > >>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >> >> >>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>I have. >>> >>> >> >>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. >> >>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>convenient for scraping. >> >>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>shave babbitt. >> >>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >> >>Party on, >>?????? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 5 15:05:49 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:05:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound In-Reply-To: <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <47F7F7BD.7090503@scrtc.com> Carl, Two ways to do it. One is to simply put the caps in the mill and mill a straight groove with the edge of the endmill parallel to the jounal. The other is simply to take a die grinder with a carbide tipped cutter and "X" from the oil hole. I usually mill the groove as it takes about 5 minutes to set it up and mill it. I never put it very deep, probably 1/32 of an inch or so. Just enough that the oil can seep into the groove and make contact with the bearing surface. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Carl McGhee wrote: >Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do your >oil grooves in the bushing? > >Carl McGhee >Battle Creek Mi. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > > > >>Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its >>bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >>thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from >>McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 >>halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back >>on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold >>them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals >>with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually >>do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it >>cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or >>oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done >>this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect >>bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if >>someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll >>want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I >>usually just want a good bearing job. >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >>Rob Skinner wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>>I have. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. >>> >>>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>>convenient for scraping. >>> >>>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>>shave babbitt. >>> >>>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >>> >>>Party on, >>>?????? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 07:44:39 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:44:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Message-ID: > > >Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold prices yet? Thanks, Steve> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________> >SEL mailing list> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> >> >> >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 From bgrimley at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 7 07:53:14 2008 From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (bgrimley at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:53:14 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> ? Link from Scholl's website says May 3: http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html -------------- Original message from Steve Royster : -------------- > > > > >Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? > Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold prices yet? > Thanks, Steve> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________> >SEL mailing list> > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> >> >> >> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_get > intouch_042008 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Apr 7 08:19:54 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:19:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Message-ID: <47FA3B9A.3060909@scrtc.com> Yeah, I went and bought some of the engines for $25 as I was the only one there. Just kidding folks. Bill's right, the auction will be on May 3rd and it will be at Raymond's place, not at the location originally advertised. Go to the link and you can get all the info. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > ? Link from Scholl's website says May 3: >http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html > > -------------- Original message from Steve Royster : -------------- > > > > >>>>>Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? >>>>> >>>>> > > > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Apr 7 09:46:28 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> Message-ID: <1207586788.47fa4fe41fb41@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Steve, You lucky dog, it sounds like you've still got time to dig up some of your buried gold horde and go and buy yourself some more nice olde iron. Sort of Alchemy in reverse. Go on, you KNOW that Dawn wants you to! BTW, I chose to reply OFFLIST so that slippery oil baron brother of yours doesn't get wind of the real dates. If the evil Cloistered Oyster gets there with his millions in windfall oil profits you and Tommy won't stand a chance in the bidding. You can thank me later! See ya, Arnie Quoting bgrimley at bellsouth.net: > Link from Scholl's website says May 3: > http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html > > -------------- Original message from Steve Royster > : -------------- > Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? > Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold > prices yet? From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 10:37:26 2008 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:37:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction In-Reply-To: <1207586788.47fa4fe41fb41@webmail.city-net.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <040720081453.9954.47FA355A000B78EB000026E222218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF970A0403079D090D@att.net> <1207586788.47fa4fe41fb41@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: I got word the oil baron royster has already been up there and made off with the good stuff, (profits must have been real good, I'd expect quite a show at portland this year from him) > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:46:28 -0400> From: fero_ah at city-net.com> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Bill Triplett auction> > Hey Steve, > > You lucky dog, it sounds like you've still got time to dig up some of your> buried gold horde and go and buy yourself some more nice olde iron. Sort of> Alchemy in reverse. Go on, you KNOW that Dawn wants you to!> > BTW, I chose to reply OFFLIST so that slippery oil baron brother of yours> doesn't get wind of the real dates. If the evil Cloistered Oyster gets there> with his millions in windfall oil profits you and Tommy won't stand a chance in> the bidding. You can thank me later!> > See ya, Arnie> > Quoting bgrimley at bellsouth.net:> > > Link from Scholl's website says May 3:> > http://www.action-auctions.com/202bryantcombsroad.html> > > > -------------- Original message from Steve Royster> > : --------------> > Did anyone go to the Bill Triplett auction at Ray Scholls this weekend? > > Nice old iron auctioned off and I wondered if anyone had the sold > > prices yet? > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back up?use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 From mcghee9 at comcast.net Tue Apr 8 05:57:34 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:57:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] o.t. test References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <001401c89978$1d9ad230$0302a8c0@Carl> test Carl McGhee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl McGhee" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do your > oil grooves in the bushing? > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek Mi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > >> Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its >> bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >> thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from >> McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 >> halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back >> on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold >> them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals >> with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually >> do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it >> cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or >> oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've done >> this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect >> bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if >> someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll >> want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I >> usually just want a good bearing job. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> Rob Skinner wrote: >> >>>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>>I have. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are required. >>> >>>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>>convenient for scraping. >>> >>>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>>shave babbitt. >>> >>>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >>> >>>Party on, >>>?????? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Apr 8 07:01:32 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] o.t. test In-Reply-To: <001401c89978$1d9ad230$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <001401c89978$1d9ad230$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <2696.12.223.26.26.1207663292.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> OK, here's an OT reply. You passed! > test > > Carl McGhee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl McGhee" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound > > >> Thanks Tommy for your tip on doing bearings, I like it. How do you do >> your >> oil grooves in the bushing? >> >> Carl McGhee >> Battle Creek Mi. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Babbitt lapping compound >> >> >>> Guys, I do bearings the lazy way. I polish the crankshaft until its >>> bright. Then I make a bronze bushing about 1/8 thick that has about 5 >>> thousandths clearance (sometimes you can get lucky and buy these from >>> McMaster Carr and other suppliers). I then split the bushing in 2 >>> halves. I tin the back side with solder and then put the 2 halves back >>> on the crankshaft and wrap a very fine brass wire around them to hold >>> them in place. Then I'll situate and align the crank in the journals >>> with screw jacks dam up the ends and throw with Babbittrite. I usually >>> do a little preheat on the base and then I pour the bottom half, let it >>> cool, place my shims (usually I'll make these out of gasket material or >>> oiled paper) set the cap on, dam it up and pour the top half. I've >>> done >>> this with several engines and never had a problem. It leaves a perfect >>> bearing surface and there isn't any scraping or fitting needed. Now if >>> someone wants the fun and experience of a babbitt/scrape job, they'll >>> want to pour the babbitt and spend a day scraping and fitting. I >>> usually just want a good bearing job. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> Rob Skinner wrote: >>> >>>>On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, William Young wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Answer: I think scraping takes skill & experience, neither of which >>>>>I have. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Skill? Experience? Trust me, Wakai-san, neither of those are >>>> required. >>>> >>>>JB suggests using an old piston ring. He knows a thing or two about >>>>engines, so listen when he types. I've used an old hacksaw blade, but >>>>you can use any hunk of metal that you can sharpen into a shap >>>>convenient for scraping. >>>> >>>>The babbitt doesn't cut so easily that you have to worry about >>>>accidentally ruining the job if you hiccup. If you're capable of >>>>shaving your face without ending up with a sink full of blood, you can >>>>shave babbitt. >>>> >>>>I've been working out of the same quart of Starrett layout dye that >>>>I've had for the last 25 years, but you can probaby substitute any >>>>kind of coloring that will transfer between the surfaces. >>>> >>>>Party on, >>>>?????????????????? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mcghee9 at comcast.net Tue Apr 8 17:20:48 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:20:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails Message-ID: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having problems. Carl McGhee Battle Creek, Mi. From garyepps at fidnet.com Tue Apr 8 18:17:53 2008 From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:17:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <375acf600804081817h538f0abei2e05d95f4c7186a2@mail.gmail.com> I've not noticed any problem. Mail is light. I obviously just got your email, so the system must be working. Gary On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at alltel.net Tue Apr 8 18:37:15 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:37:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> Hi Carl, I think the List must be down. Hell, I didn't even receive your post! Dave On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi. From endacomm10 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 9 00:55:13 2008 From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 00:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> Message-ID: <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My Grandfather was Very Fond of using the phrase.... " I Vonder vye der ars tso meny more Oarses Ashes in de vorld den der ares Oarses" David Rotigel wrote: Hi Carl, I think the List must be down. Hell, I didn't even receive your post! Dave On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Apr 9 05:39:51 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:39:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to wagga for the weekend. The girls spent most of the time shopping while the boys played engines. 580km each way trip for us and all went well. We spent plenty of time with fellow Sel folk. The Wagga engine Rally was a little quiet but none the less we enjoyed ourselves. I have put some pic's up on my webshot. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Apr 9 06:06:30 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:06:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> Its spring, and if everyone else is doing the same the outside stuff is taking up our time after a long winter. I didn't even turn on the computer for two days this weekend. I didn't miss it one bit. TTYL, Mark >On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: > > > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having > > problems. > > > > Carl McGhee > > Battle Creek, Mi. Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Apr 9 07:30:03 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> References: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4450.12.223.26.26.1207751403.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Next week when the electrician comes to wire the new shop, he's going to run network and cable in the trench, too........... (covers my butt in case Barbara gets mad, I'll have computer and TV) > Its spring, and if everyone else is doing the same the outside stuff is > taking up our time after a long winter. I didn't even turn on the computer > for two days this weekend. I didn't miss it one bit. TTYL, Mark > >>On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Carl McGhee wrote: >> >> > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is anyone else having >> > problems. >> > >> > Carl McGhee >> > Battle Creek, Mi. > > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com > > Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. > Parts lists available on request. > > Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 > No Sunday calls if possible. > I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I > represent > them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and > hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 9 08:41:17 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:41:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: Carl: Did you get this one? I got yours. ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Carl McGhee > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] E Mails > > > I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is > anyone else having problems. > > Carl McGhee > Battle Creek, Mi From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Apr 9 08:01:45 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4549.12.223.26.26.1207753305.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> No, please try again. > Carl: > > Did you get this one? I got yours. > > ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? > > Take care - Elden > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Carl McGhee >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] E Mails >> >> >> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is >> anyone else having problems. >> >> Carl McGhee >> Battle Creek, Mi > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 9 11:19:00 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:19:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <4549.12.223.26.26.1207753305.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: Well Gollllll-eee! I'll holler it louder this time. HELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo! YEEEEEEEeeeeeeee HAW! Didja git that one? Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > bill at antique-engines.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:02 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] E Mails > > > No, please try again. > > > Carl: > > > > Did you get this one? I got yours. > > > > ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! > Is anyone out here? > > > > Take care - Elden > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> Behalf Of Carl McGhee > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Subject: [SEL] E Mails > >> > >> > >> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is > >> anyone else having problems. > >> > >> Carl McGhee > >> Battle Creek, Mi From mcghee9 at comcast.net Wed Apr 9 12:17:47 2008 From: mcghee9 at comcast.net (Carl McGhee) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:17:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] E Mails References: Message-ID: <001001c89a76$65d49c30$0302a8c0@Carl> Eldon, Loud and clear. I was having problems with my computer and thought maybe I screwed it up more. Carl McGhee Battle Creek, Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] E Mails > Carl: > > Did you get this one? I got yours. > > ............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? > > Take care - Elden > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Carl McGhee >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 07:21 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] E Mails >> >> >> I haven't recieved any mail for 3 days now. Is >> anyone else having problems. >> >> Carl McGhee >> Battle Creek, Mi > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 13:02:55 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:02:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47FD20EF.1010602@gmail.com> G'day Russell, You just got me, looking down at my Buzacott and Lightning (Rosebery's) in photo 45. I nearly doubled your distance traveled. :-) Al Clarence Valley NSW Oz Russell Gilbert wrote: > G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to > wagga for the weekend. The girls spent most of the time shopping > while the boys played engines. 580km each way trip for us and all > went well. We spent plenty of time with fellow Sel folk. The Wagga > engine Rally was a little quiet but none the less we enjoyed > ourselves. I have put some pic's up on my webshot. > > enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM > > regards Russell > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Apr 9 14:40:21 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:40:21 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: GREAT mornin' fix, Russell!! Put'er on slideshow, sit back and let the good times roll. Thanks much!! RickinMt. > > enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM From jbcast at charter.net Wed Apr 9 17:23:17 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:23:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our spring kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are antique. Have a look. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA. From kimmell at verizon.net Wed Apr 9 19:49:08 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:49:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: References: <002301c899d7$909f3370$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <0JZ300LW794T3420@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hello? Hello, McFly??? Yeah the weather this last weekend was supreme. I have Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays off so I take every oppertunity I can to get outside. I didn't get on the computer much other than to look at the weather forecast for the next day... Too busy washing and waxing the vehicles, cleaning out the garage and getting the boat ready for some lake/river action! Oh yea, it's spring baby!!! -Tony At 10:41 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: >Carl: > >Did you get this one? I got yours. > >............................HELLLLLLoooooooo! Is anyone out here? > >Take care - Elden From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Apr 9 21:15:34 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:15:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <20080410041520.JXIZ14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Thanks for the pics Russell. I would have liked to have been there :( Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to wagga for the weekend. The girls spent most of the time shopping while the boys played engines. 580km each way trip for us and all went well. We spent plenty of time with fellow Sel folk. The Wagga engine Rally was a little quiet but none the less we enjoyed ourselves. I have put some pic's up on my webshot. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/563042899JLYGYM regards Russell From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 10 03:43:49 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:43:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff References: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> Message-ID: <000c01c89af7$c32af0b0$726f4b47@mikecomp> JB it looks like you fellas were having too much fun! Graet shots of some beauties in action. Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff > > There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our > spring kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are > antique. Have a look. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 06:27:02 2008 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (JIM KIRKES) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:27:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer Message-ID: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> At one time there was somebody making reproduction Lunkenheimer mixers. Does anybody know who this was and how to contact them? Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. replace nomore with net to send mail jd.kirkes at verizon.nomore From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Thu Apr 10 14:21:14 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:21:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080409223620.02234c40@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000f01c89b50$cf061370$6d123a50$@com.au> Thanks Russell they are great. Cheers Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:40 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Wagga Rally pictures G'day all, I had the weekend off work last week and took my family to wagga for the weekend. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Apr 10 16:01:22 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:01:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD? In-Reply-To: References: <47CEF8BD.20608@scrtc.com> <47CF02C9.2050705@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <47FE9C42.3020801@scrtc.com> Ed, Just thought I would drop you a note to let you know the roller is sitting here at my house. Thanks for your offer of help! Hopefully I can return the favor to you. This thing is heavy! I bet it weighs close to a ton so I don't know if it could be hauled in a pickup or not. Thanks again!! Tommy Edward Tabor wrote: >Have you found somebody? I'm going to Annapolis this week. My number is >443-309-2877. If something needs transported I could arrange to get it to >Coolspring. (Believe Paul Gray attends.) > >Ed >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:30 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Anyone near Annapolis, MD? > > > > >>Thanks Mike! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >> >> >>Michael Tucker wrote: >> >> >> >>>Tommy, >>> >>>I don't know if he is still a list member but John Cullom >>>(gallowayengine at comcast.net >>>) lives outside of Westminster, MD, which is about an hour or 2 from >>>Annapolis. >>> >>>See ya', >>>Mike >>> >>>On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Is there anyone on the list that lives near Annapolis, MD? Anyone on >>>>the list that lives near there that would be coming to Coolspring? >>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>______________________ >>>Michael Tucker >>>oldironnut at alltel.net >>>Versailles, Kentucky, USA >>>______________________ >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 10 16:51:48 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:51:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer Message-ID: Jim, A couple of years ago, I got a new repro lunkenheimer in a box of junk from a deceased collector. It was made by Larry Riley 118 S. Roby Drive Anderson, Ind. The shipping date on the box was 1981. I made a comment about it on this list and someone said he was still in business, but I have no first hand information. Hope this will be of some help. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Apr 10 18:12:21 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:12:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> References: <20080409202317.11KE8.109238.root@fepweb13> Message-ID: <1207876341.47febaf596c9e@webmail.city-net.com> Damn JB, you folks look like you're having so much fun it must be illegal. Thaks for putting those up. See ya, Arnie PS - Wot's with the jackets? Cold snap down to 73? 8-)) Quoting jbcast at charter.net: > There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our > spring kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are > antique. Have a look. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA. From kimmell at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 20:29:36 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:29:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] E Mails In-Reply-To: <4450.12.223.26.26.1207751403.squirrel@www.antique-engines. com> References: <28D23F92-2684-4423-9504-C8B202F38315@alltel.net> <931708.34495.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <6.2.1.2.1.20080409090202.03470630@pop3.wcoil.com> <4450.12.223.26.26.1207751403.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <0JZ5000XV5O9WZN1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Bill, I get in trouble when I get too cozy in my garage. I put in a sink, refrigerator, phone, cable TV and DSL connection. The wife gets mad and says with all that stuff out there, I'll never come back inside. I always laugh and say "Yeah, what's your point??" -Tony At 09:30 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: >Next week when the electrician comes to wire the new shop, he's going to >run network and cable in the trench, too........... >(covers my butt in case Barbara gets mad, I'll have computer and TV) From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Apr 10 23:41:58 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:41:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: Hi Russell L. Gilbert Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even safer place for you to buy and sell. These changes will be introduced in two stages: From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as currently permitted payment methods. From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. just my 2 cents worth, regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From page at velocitynet.com.au Fri Apr 11 00:35:08 2008 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:35:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000301c89ba6$91543330$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hi Russell Haven't received this from Ebay. But then I don't sell much. Maybe you should go to them direct and put your concerns. You might also consider Oztion for sales in OZ at least. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 4:42 PM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] ot ebay G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: Hi Russell L. Gilbert Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even safer place for you to buy and sell. These changes will be introduced in two stages: From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as currently permitted payment methods. From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. just my 2 cents worth, regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 30/12/2007 11:27 AM From astfgl at iamnota.org Fri Apr 11 00:37:13 2008 From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:37:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47FF1529.4080603@iamnota.org> Yep, that's been going around most of the news sites today. It looks like AU is the testbed, with the UK starting shortly after. No news yet about other countries. There's been noises about complaints to the ACCC(and other competition and regulatory bodies), but it's impossible to believe that ebay would announce this without a solid legal footing. They are not a financial institution(with the associated regulations), and can dictate terms of use of their service to a large extent. A similar situation which springs to mind is the use of the virtual precious metal coinage in online roleplaying games - they don't allow exchanges of "real" money inside the game, but you can add or remove money through their account system. Real-world items can be bought in some games with the virual money, too. Of course I'm not a lawer, so it's always possible that this move will be blocked somehow. Each country's laws are different, so this move may be possible in some places, but not others. My two cents: For buyers it's not a bad idea, as the paypal system is tied into the auction system and payment is easily proven, something that is not possible with direct deposit, cheques, etc. For sellers, it prevents fraud but makes them to pay up to 2.4% of the sale price as a transaction fee. That might be a problem for sellers with small margins, but it's across the board so no seller is disadvantaged. The question of whether paypal *deserves* that cut is another matter. :-) One recurring complaint from sellers is that money has been refunded(for whatever reason) from their account. Why they leave money in their account where paypal can get at it, I don't know. Lazyness springs to mind. I mean, come on. It's MONEY! Keep it in a regulated financial institution, for goodness sake. As a buyer, what I've done is to get a second Visa debit card from my credit union, with it's own account. My ebay account is tied to the Visa card. When I make a purchase, I transfer only the required amount and put through the payment. If a charge is made without my premission, it fails at the Visa level with no penalty to me. There's a rumour, unconfirmed, that paypal might disallow credit cards as payment methods and require a bank account to be attached. The same method of dealing with it applies, have a separate account and leave it empty with "zero overdraw". As I said, that one's unconfirmed, and I doubt it'll happen. That *might* cut into their customer base. Anyhow, that's my take as a buyer. If some more sellers want to chine in with their experiences and opinions, I'd appreciate it - I'll trust the views from people here more than the average /. poster. Later, glen. Russell Gilbert wrote: > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > just my 2 cents worth, > regards Russell > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Apr 11 00:39:13 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:39:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: [SEL] ot ebay > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from > ebay: > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > just my 2 cents worth, > regards Russell > Russell Gilbert > Sunny Sunraysia > russell at ncable.com.au > http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Fri Apr 11 04:18:20 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:18:20 +0000 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff Message-ID: <041120081118.23733.47FF48FC000A3D9D00005CB5219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Looks like a great time JB, some really nice pics. Is pic #65 a model R&V, if so did you get that as a kit from "Rocky"? thanks, Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:27:29 +0000 > > There's not much going on on the list so I thought I'd post a link to our spring > kickoff at my camp. They're not staionary engines but they are antique. Have a > look. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 00:56:39 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:56:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <47FF19B7.8090300@gmail.com> I'll go first, or second, if Reg is first. I'll not buy off eBay until the waters clear. Al Harris Oz R & M Ingold wrote: > E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. > If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell Gilbert" > To: "SEL" > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:41 PM > Subject: [SEL] ot ebay > > >> G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from >> ebay: >> >> Hi Russell L. Gilbert >> Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some >> changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even >> safer place for you to buy and sell. >> >> These changes will be introduced in two stages: >> >> From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as >> currently permitted payment methods. >> >> From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings >> and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). >> >> I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of >> the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna >> let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our >> concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to >> fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I >> don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out >> of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. >> just my 2 cents worth, >> regards Russell >> Russell Gilbert >> Sunny Sunraysia >> russell at ncable.com.au >> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Apr 11 05:33:43 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:33:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au><00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <47FF19B7.8090300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Harris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > I'll go first, or second, if Reg is first. > > I'll not buy off eBay until the waters clear. > > Al Harris > Oz > > R & M Ingold wrote: >> E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. >> If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... >> Reg & Marg Ingold. >> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Russell Gilbert" >> To: "SEL" >> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:41 PM >> Subject: [SEL] ot ebay >> >> >>> G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from >>> ebay: >>> >>> Hi Russell L. Gilbert >>> Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some >>> changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even >>> safer place for you to buy and sell. >>> >>> These changes will be introduced in two stages: >>> >>> From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as >>> currently permitted payment methods. >>> >>> From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings >>> and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). >>> >>> I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of >>> the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna >>> let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our >>> concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to >>> fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I >>> don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out >>> of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. >>> just my 2 cents worth, >>> regards Russell >>> Russell Gilbert >>> Sunny Sunraysia >>> russell at ncable.com.au >>> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 05:51:51 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:51:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au><00f001c89ba7$27c64c90$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <47FF19B7.8090300@gmail.com> <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <47FF5EE7.6090800@gmail.com> Then you can't claim to be a "we" who can say "enough", can you. :-P Al Harris Oz R & M Ingold wrote: > Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! > I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Harris" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > > >> I'll go first, or second, if Reg is first. >> >> I'll not buy off eBay until the waters clear. >> >> Al Harris >> Oz >> >> R & M Ingold wrote: >>> E bay is like Gummint!! Always want to screw more out of ya. >>> If we all said"Enough" at the same time! ...................... >>> Reg & Marg Ingold. >>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Fri Apr 11 06:08:05 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:08:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Hey yall I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea of "instant money." Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.12/1372 - Release Date: 4/10/2008 5:36 PM From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Apr 11 06:40:04 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:40:04 -0600 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay References: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: I agree Lew..In 250+ buying transactions, I've only had one small problem and we worked it out quick. Mostly items that go with the old engines. I purchased hand hole gaskets for our boiler a while back using PP. I really like it...and as you say...over and done with. Regarding the OT ebay....I've heard they will never send you an email...scam comes to mind and I just delete them when they show up. If ebay wants to communicate with you..you will get a message alert on your ebay summary. "Happy user here in The Big Sky. RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Best" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > Hey yall > > I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've > bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands > down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea > of "instant money." > > Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but > Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct > deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would > probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the > advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or > less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; > anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to > go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal > or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a > check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can > also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." > > I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff > that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit > card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or > selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. > > Lew near Waco, TX > > -----Original Message----- > > Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! > I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.12/1372 - Release Date: > 4/10/2008 5:36 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 07:25:05 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:25:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, Lew Best wrote: > Hey yall > > I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've > bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands > down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea > of "instant money." > > Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but > Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct > deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would > probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the > advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or > less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; > anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to > go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal > or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a > check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can > also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." > > I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff > that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit > card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or > selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. > > Lew near Waco, TX > Well, we've been on ebay since 1998, and the thing I least like about this announcement is that it is restricting the choice of payment. Not only that, it is also restricting payment to a service provider that it owns 100%, which is possibly going to fall under "restrictive practices" in some countries. I have no problem with PayPal and use it a lot, but both these companies should be doing it better than they are, and not getting the opinions from users that we are seeing here. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Apr 11 08:10:26 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I don't think I actually ever sent this - at least I never saw it..... Sorry if I did! My wife made this quilt, well, she custom made the blocks for her aunt who actually wanted to assemble and quilt it herself as a gift, but it's something Barbara herself has done, just not THIS particular one...... Anyway, I said, gee, make a couple and I bet you could sell 'em. She said she didn't think so, who'd want to buy one......and no one could afford what it took to make. I said, well, I'll find out which of us is closer. So, that being said, this is mostly OT as far as engines, but if I get me a GOOD design, I could sure digitize it in to her machine...... Take a look and comment, good bad or otherwise. Note that although I call it JD and it's JD colours, it's NOT really styled quite like the JD nuts would say it should be. It's sort of generic in a way. http://dickerson-design.com/images/jd-tractor-quilt.jpg Bill From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 11 08:14:50 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:14:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: References: <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080411110254.0347b970@pop3.wcoil.com> I can't argue against the ease of paypal for the buyer and seller, but it always gripes me when some one like ebay comes along and dictates that we do this or that and supposedly for our own good. When in reality its actually THEIR Benefit. Just another way to improve their bottom line and reduce ours. Ebay owns Paypal so its just another money grab. You watch, next thing that will go is sellers to self host pictures. Ebay will force you to use their picture service exclusively. At a modest fee of course. TTYL, Mark At 09:40 AM 4/11/08, you wrote: >I agree Lew..In 250+ buying transactions, I've only had one small problem >and we worked it out quick. Mostly items that go with the old engines. I >purchased hand hole gaskets for our boiler a while back using PP. I really >like it...and as you say...over and done with. > > Regarding the OT ebay....I've heard they will never send you an >email...scam comes to mind and I just delete them when they show up. If >ebay wants to communicate with you..you will get a message alert on your >ebay summary. > >"Happy user here in The Big Sky. >RickinMt. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lew Best" >To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:08 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] ot ebay > > > > Hey yall > > > > I have a bit of a different take on this apparently than most. I've > > bought & sold on EBay quite a bit (205 feedbacks) & prefer Paypal hands > > down. I don't sell much anymore but when I did I really liked the idea > > of "instant money." > > > > Things may be different on money "movement" here in the states but > > Paypal here is the safest & quickest imho. Someone mentioned "direct > > deposit" & AFAIK that's not available here (or if it is the bank would > > probably charge for it?). With Paypal I do get charged but think of the > > advantages. In most cases my sales have been paid for within an hour or > > less. I can take the Paypal debit card & buy stuff (groceries, etc.; > > anything a visa card will buy) immediately if I want to. If I want to > > go to the bank I can use the debit card for an immediate cash withdrawal > > or transfer to my account; not have to wait for the mail to bring a > > check/money order & then (if it's a check) wait for it to clear. I can > > also ship immediately & get the whole deal "over & done with." > > > > I also feel that it increases sales in that some folks will buy stuff > > that they wouldn't (or couldn't) buy if they couldn't put it on a credit > > card. Anyway, I use Paypal for any possible EBay transaction (buying or > > selling); feel like it's the best way overall to handle them. > > > > Lew near Waco, TX > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Al, I have a head start on ya. I have NEVER bought an item off ebay!! > > I can see no reason to change this state of affairs. > > Reg & Marg Ingold. > > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.12/1372 - Release Date: > > 4/10/2008 5:36 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Apr 11 08:27:06 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:27:06 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW><6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: I think it looks GREAT, Bill. Congrats to your wife!! RickinMt. > http://dickerson-design.com/images/jd-tractor-quilt.jpg From FRM8198 at aol.com Fri Apr 11 08:34:17 2008 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:34:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related Message-ID: Bill, Thanks for sharing this with the list. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 In a message dated 4/11/2008 8:16:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bill at antique-engines.com writes: My wife made this quilt, well, she custom made the blocks for her aunt who actually wanted to assemble and quilt it herself as a gift, but it's something Barbara herself has done, just not THIS particular one...... **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From kimmell at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 20:24:33 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:24:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer In-Reply-To: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> References: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <0JZ5005TU56GCN71@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Jim, I believe Brady Baker of Pendleton, IN was either making them or had a large stock of repros for sale. I don't think he's on the list, but he posts on SmokStak once in a while. You may be able to find him over there. -- Tony Kimmell Bloomington, IL At 08:27 AM 4/10/2008, you wrote: >At one time there was somebody making reproduction >Lunkenheimer mixers. Does anybody know who this was and >how to contact them? > >Jim From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Fri Apr 11 10:20:55 2008 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:20:55 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related In-Reply-To: <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> <004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> <6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <47FF9DF7.8000400@xplornet.com> Hello Bill, The quilt is a great idea. Putting one up for auction with a well known auctioneer should establish what one is worth. Rupert Ps. Good choice of color. Green seems to get bidders going for some reason. > So, that being said, this is mostly OT as far as engines, but if I get me > a GOOD design, I could sure digitize it in to her machine...... > Take a look and comment, good bad or otherwise. > Note that although I call it JD and it's JD colours, it's NOT really > styled quite like the JD nuts would say it should be. It's sort of generic > in a way. > > http://dickerson-design.com/images/jd-tractor-quilt.jpg > > > Bill > > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 05:47:42 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:47:42 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <6f6025160804110547g7dd4ddb2ob9ee3b929bd9c496@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, Russell Gilbert wrote: > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > Looks similar to what has been emailed to UK users, but I cannot see how you can stop people paying by other means, ie cheque etc. Looks like ebay is shooting itself in the foot (again) I stopped selling in significant terms last year when PayPal and Ebay lost my CC details, then tried to collect from a 3-year old CC number. They complained that I had breached their trading terms by not paying! Idiots!! They said that Amex had declined my card, but actually Amex had not declined anything, they just refused to handle an out of date CC number. Never had a response from them about it, despite lots of messages and emails. Now I just buy a few bits and sell a few bits, but the days of serious buying and selling on ebay are over for me. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Apr 11 11:33:41 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:33:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> G'day Russell, One comment... The use of PayPal does not have to cost you a fee. I have a Personal PayPal account wherein I can send and receive money and it doesn't cost me a dime. The only limitation that impacts my eBay selling is that a buyer can't pay me using a credit card; it has to be money from his PayPal account balance or from his bank account via PayPal. I describe that in my ads and also state that other conventional forms of payment are acceptable (cash, check, money order, gold, etc.). Occasionally I get a mouth-breather who can't read and I have to reject his credit card PayPal payment (since I refuse to upgrade my PayPal account). But that's pretty rare. One really interesting website to visit in getting more background on PayPal is NoPayPal. http://www.paypalsucks.com/ Enjoy! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com Quoting Russell Gilbert : > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from > ebay: > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > currently permitted payment methods. > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > just my 2 cents worth, From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 12:48:33 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:48:33 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > G'day Russell, > > One comment... The use of PayPal does not have to cost you a fee. > > I have a Personal PayPal account wherein I can send and receive money and it > doesn't cost me a dime. The only limitation that impacts my eBay selling is > that a buyer can't pay me using a credit card; it has to be money from his > PayPal account balance or from his bank account via PayPal. I describe that in > my ads and also state that other conventional forms of payment are acceptable > (cash, check, money order, gold, etc.). Arnie: Correct me if I am wrong (you will anyway!) but as I understand it, the recipient of the money coming through PayPal pays the charges, whatever the source of the money in the first place? Therefore, you will not pay the charges when paying, but you will when receiving money for something you have sold. I don't think there is any transaction within PayPal that is free of any charges. Happy to be corrected on that one. See you at Neunen :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From andyglines at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 12:01:19 2008 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:01:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Oiler_Gaskets?= Message-ID: I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass. _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Apr 11 13:54:26 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:54:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Peter, Correction happily provided. 8-)) https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/User/popup/ChoosingAccountTypeSignup-outside#personal Utterly, totally, and completely FREE. Both to send and to receive funds. But, as I said, no credit cards. Go forth and buy and sell without PayPal fees. It can be done. 8-)) See ya, Arnie PS - That's the case for the US version of PayPal anyway. I can't swear that its the same flavor in all other countries. Perhaps others can check their local PayPal and do a copy & paste of the details of the Personal PayPal account (if it's different than the above). Also if, when you follow the link above, you don't see "totally free" words, let me know and I'll do a screen shot. PPS - Less than a month till Neunen!! I can't wait! Quoting Listerdiesel : > Correct me if I am wrong (you will anyway!) but as I understand it, > the recipient of the money coming through PayPal pays the charges, > whatever the source of the money in the first place? > > Therefore, you will not pay the charges when paying, but you will when > receiving money for something you have sold. > > I don't think there is any transaction within PayPal that is free of > any charges. > > Happy to be corrected on that one. > > See you at Neunen :-)) From kkinney at herculesengines.com Fri Apr 11 14:05:34 2008 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:05:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A06509A-175E-41C8-862B-D3606AE7327A@herculesengines.com> Andy Get ahold of Hit and Miss Enterprises or Starbolt and give them the diameter of your glass. The will have cork gaskets to fit. Keith On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Andy Glines wrote: > > I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler > was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets > using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks > so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. > I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the > oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass. > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live > Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From glenn.karch at att.net Fri Apr 11 14:23:49 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets Message-ID: <306110.26111.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Andy, I have plenty of the thin cork gasket material to make any size oiler gaskets. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Glines To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:01:19 PM Subject: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass. _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 15:04:37 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:04:37 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <6f6025160804111504i407597d3pacd45f91c8fc59fc@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, Russell Gilbert wrote: > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from ebay: > This is the current ebay UK payments advice: http://web.ebay.co.uk/businesshub/index.php?page=safe_payments also have a look at the PayPal accepted payments methods in different countries (you need to be logged in to see that IIRC) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 14:47:29 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:47:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> On 11/04/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Correction happily provided. 8-)) > > https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/User/popup/ChoosingAccountTypeSignup-outside#personal > > Utterly, totally, and completely FREE. Both to send and to receive funds. > But, as I said, no credit cards. > > Go forth and buy and sell without PayPal fees. It can be done. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - That's the case for the US version of PayPal anyway. I can't swear that > its the same flavor in all other countries. Perhaps others can check their > local PayPal and do a copy & paste of the details of the Personal PayPal > account (if it's different than the above). Also if, when you follow the link > above, you don't see "totally free" words, let me know and I'll do a screen > shot. > > PPS - Less than a month till Neunen!! I can't wait! Got that, thanks. As mine is a premier account I don't have the 'benefits' of zero charges, but I think it is probably balanced by the extra freedom you have to take payments from CC's. I hadn't noticed that before, thanks for the heads-up. Looking at the Transaction Limitations for Personal Accounts, how does that affect you? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From MBellar at aol.com Fri Apr 11 16:24:53 2008 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:24:53 EDT Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer Message-ID: Jim; I picked up a flyer at Portland a few years ago (3?) for 1/2 inch to 11/4 Lunkenheimer reproduction cast brass fuel mixers produced since 1980 by Musky Machine. The address on the flier is Corey Bell 2626 Overcrest Lane Sapula, OK 74066 918-227-4407 e-mail _BMW-Enginenut at msn.com_ (mailto:BMW-Enginenut at msn.com) , I sent him an e-mail about a year ago concerning a 3/4 inch mixer and got no response. I did purchase a used part for a Geo. Miller mixer when I was at Portland and he promptly sent it to me after the show. I hope this helps. Tom Bellar SW Ohio **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 11 16:40:07 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:40:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really need to have. Russell At 04:33 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: >G'day Russell, > >One comment... The use of PayPal does not have to cost you a fee. > >I have a Personal PayPal account wherein I can send and receive money and it >doesn't cost me a dime. The only limitation that impacts my eBay selling is >that a buyer can't pay me using a credit card; it has to be money from his >PayPal account balance or from his bank account via PayPal. I >describe that in >my ads and also state that other conventional forms of payment are acceptable >(cash, check, money order, gold, etc.). > >Occasionally I get a mouth-breather who can't read and I have to reject his >credit card PayPal payment (since I refuse to upgrade my PayPal account). But >that's pretty rare. > >One really interesting website to visit in getting more background >on PayPal is >NoPayPal. http://www.paypalsucks.com/ Enjoy! > >See ya, Arnie > >Arnie Fero >Pittsburgh, PA >fero_ah at city-net.com > >Quoting Russell Gilbert : > > > G'day all, just wondering if any one else has received this e-mail from > > ebay: > > > > Hi Russell L. Gilbert > > Because you are a valued seller we'd like to let you know about some > > changes to eBay.com.au that are going to make our marketplace an even > > safer place for you to buy and sell. > > > > These changes will be introduced in two stages: > > > > From 21 May you must offer PayPal on all your listings as well as > > currently permitted payment methods. > > > > From 17 June you will only be able to offer PayPal on your listings > > and pay on pick up (i.e.paid for when picking up the item). > > > > I will be one who will dramatically reduce the use of ebay. Much of > > the gear we trade is valued in the hundreds. Be buggered if Im gonna > > let them cop another 3% for nothing. Maybe if we all voice our > > concern things may change??? Most times we sell something it is to > > fund the resto of an engine or to make another purchase similar, I > > don't think you are gonna be happy when they take a greater chunk out > > of it. Direct deposit works fine for me, never had any trouble. > > just my 2 cents worth, > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 11 16:46:59 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:46:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lunkenheimer References: <002401c89b0e$927074b0$6a00a8c0@your46e94owx6a> Message-ID: <00af01c89c2e$5663f840$0c01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Corey Bell made a pile of em in every size . 918-227-4407 From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 11 16:57:03 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:57:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Sort of OT, maybe tractor related References: <001d01c89bd0$4a3fb0d0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><004201c89bd5$19a01500$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW><6f6025160804110725l41357874k61341078aae71972@mail.gmail.com> <9648.12.223.26.26.1207926626.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <012601c89c2f$be49c240$0c01a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> I could never use white on my bed , it shows grease too easily . From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 17:04:56 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:04:56 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> Russell Gilbert wrote: > Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on > ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments > excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the > bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing > transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like > Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. > > At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really > need to have. > Russell I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) Al Clarence Coast Oz From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 11 17:24:25 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:24:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> Al I'm always happy to entertain a fellow engine man! You would have turned your trip into a trek had you followed though. At 10:04 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: >Russell Gilbert wrote: > > Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on > > ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments > > excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the > > bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing > > transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like > > Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. > > > > At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really > > need to have. > > Russell > >I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) > >Al >Clarence Coast >Oz >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From alharris44 at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 17:38:51 2008 From: alharris44 at gmail.com (Al Harris) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:38:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4800049B.9030300@gmail.com> Rusty, the temptation is *always* there. My *trek* though, took 6.5 years, through all states and territories. Sunraysia would have just been a *shakedown*. :-) BTW have you got any 1.5hp FMZ-A governor gear in amongst your superfluous stuff? Al Russell Gilbert wrote: > Al I'm always happy to entertain a fellow engine man! You would have > turned your trip into a trek had you followed though. > > At 10:04 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: > > >> Russell Gilbert wrote: >>> Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on >>> ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments >>> excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the >>> bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing >>> transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like >>> Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. >>> >>> At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really >>> need to have. >>> Russell >> I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) >> >> Al >> Clarence Coast >> Oz From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 11 18:01:02 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:01:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <4800049B.9030300@gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412093531.02259920@ncable.com.au> <47FFFCA8.5000206@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20080412102317.022a3398@ncable.com.au> <4800049B.9030300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080412105916.022a8520@ncable.com.au> Sorry Al, I don't have any FMZ stuff at all. Saying that I am after the trip assembly gear and carbie for a 2hp jack of all trades?? Just in case you have a spare in you back pocket! Russell At 10:38 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: >Rusty, the temptation is *always* there. My *trek* though, >took 6.5 years, through all states and territories. Sunraysia >would have just been a *shakedown*. :-) > >BTW have you got any 1.5hp FMZ-A governor gear in amongst your >superfluous stuff? > >Al > >Russell Gilbert wrote: > > Al I'm always happy to entertain a fellow engine man! You would have > > turned your trip into a trek had you followed though. > > > > At 10:04 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote: > > > > > >> Russell Gilbert wrote: > >>> Hi Arnie, and others. A very noticeable thing in discriptions on > >>> ozzie ebay is that we (many users) all write NO PAypal payments > >>> excepted from Ozzie users. It really just eats to much into the > >>> bottom line. I do agree that it can make things work (completing > >>> transactions) real fast but time is not an issue for me. I'm like > >>> Peter I think. Will just simply reduce the activity I have with ebay. > >>> > >>> At the end of the day most stuff I get from ebay is not gear I really > >>> need to have. > >>> Russell > > >> I should have followed you home from Wagga in my one tonner. ;-) > >> > >> Al > >> Clarence Coast > >> Oz >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 12 11:03:02 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:03:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208023382.4800f956cccb0@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Peter, Since I was unaware that there WERE any "transaction limitations", I'd have to say they don't limit me in any way. What limitations (other than credit card payments which I don't care about) were you referring to? See ya, Arnie Quoting Listerdiesel : > Looking at the Transaction Limitations for Personal Accounts, how does > that affect you? From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 12 11:18:52 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:18:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction Message-ID: <000601c89cc9$a9b37890$b8e56d58@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi Guy's, Did anyone attend this auction?, if so did they take note of the prices? I would have liked to be there but the 3500 miles of water between there an Scotland make it kind of difficult Thanks , Craig in a rather damp Scotland. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 12 16:32:02 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:32:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO Message-ID: <48014672.3080005@scrtc.com> Does anyone have a contact phone number for Joe Winters of Richards, MO? From glenn.karch at att.net Sat Apr 12 17:05:01 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction Message-ID: <38484.3847.qm@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> CRaig and others, Here are the Bill Miller estate engine prices. These engines were essentially complete and runnable. Most had the "as is" finish on them. 1 HP Reeves $3100; 2 1/2 HP Perkins hopper cooled $2600; 3 HP vertical Famous $3750; 2 1/2 HP hopper Famous $2500; 2 1/2 HP Aermotor $5250; 8 cycle Aermotor $1200; 1 1/2 HP air cool Waterloo $1600; 2 1/2 HP Christesen $8200; 1 1/2 HP Early Econoomy $750; 5 HP E Economy $1100; 2 HP Flint & Walling $2400; 1 1/2 HP Jaeger (Hercules paint) $600; 1 1/2 HP Hercules $700; 2 1/2 HP Jacobson sideshaft $6700; 1 1/2 HP LaCrosse $3200; 2 1/2 HP LaCrosse $2300; 1 HP Reeves $4500; 1 1/2 HP Assoc Johnny Boy $1900; 1 HP Perkins $2800; 1 1/2 HP Sover K $700; 2 HP Reeves $3500; 2 1/2 HP Warerloo built $900; 2 HP Gould Shapley & Muir $750; Most of these engines were on some kind of homemade cart. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: craig morrison To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:18:52 PM Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction Hi Guy's, Did anyone attend this auction?, if so did they take note of the prices? I would have liked to be there but the 3500 miles of water between there an Scotland make it kind of difficult Thanks , Craig in a rather damp Scotland. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 12:27:51 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:27:51 +0100 Subject: [SEL] ot ebay In-Reply-To: <1208023382.4800f956cccb0@webmail.city-net.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20080411163613.0224cae0@ncable.com.au> <1207938821.47ffaf0550109@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111248y75c1b424hfd5b61fff899ef5f@mail.gmail.com> <1207947266.47ffd00244448@webmail.city-net.com> <6f6025160804111447j74fe3ad3s8bb1dff85b77a359@mail.gmail.com> <1208023382.4800f956cccb0@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804121227i4d5327eep913627e81819039e@mail.gmail.com> On 12/04/2008, fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Since I was unaware that there WERE any "transaction limitations", I'd have to > say they don't limit me in any way. What limitations (other than credit card > payments which I don't care about) were you referring to? > > See ya, Arnie > It's something that comes under EU legislation, so you probably don't see it in the USA. It has to do with money laundering within the EU, and requires verifying your details and location to have it removed. I think all of our family accounts went through the process this year, had mine done a few years back as well. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 12 17:35:36 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:35:36 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction References: <38484.3847.qm@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c89cfe$4a807d20$eb5b8bd4@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Thanks Glenn , very much appreciated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Karch" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction > CRaig and others, > > Here are the Bill Miller estate engine prices. These engines were > essentially complete and runnable. Most had the "as is" finish on them. > > 1 HP Reeves $3100; 2 1/2 HP Perkins hopper cooled $2600; 3 HP vertical > Famous $3750; 2 1/2 HP hopper Famous $2500; 2 1/2 HP Aermotor $5250; > 8 cycle Aermotor $1200; 1 1/2 HP air cool Waterloo $1600; 2 1/2 HP > Christesen $8200; 1 1/2 HP Early Econoomy $750; 5 HP E Economy $1100; > 2 HP Flint & Walling $2400; 1 1/2 HP Jaeger (Hercules paint) $600; 1 1/2 > HP Hercules $700; 2 1/2 HP Jacobson sideshaft $6700; 1 1/2 HP LaCrosse > $3200; 2 1/2 HP LaCrosse $2300; > 1 HP Reeves $4500; 1 1/2 HP Assoc Johnny Boy $1900; 1 HP Perkins $2800; > 1 1/2 HP Sover K $700; 2 HP Reeves $3500; 2 1/2 HP Warerloo built $900; > 2 HP Gould Shapley & Muir $750; > > Most of these engines were on some kind of homemade cart. > > Glenn > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: craig morrison > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:18:52 PM > Subject: [SEL] Bill Millers estate auction > > Hi Guy's, > Did anyone attend this auction?, if so did they take note of > the prices? I would have liked to be there but the 3500 miles of water > between there an Scotland make it kind of difficult > > Thanks , Craig in a rather damp Scotland. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: > 12/04/2008 11:32 > > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Apr 12 20:34:56 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:34:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO Message-ID: <16670383.1208057696413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Tommy, I might see him tomorrow. He usually shows up at our clubs swap meet and that is tomorrow. If so, I will get his contact info for you. Tim Christoff Basehor, KS. -----Original Message----- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Sent: Apr 12, 2008 4:32 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO > >Does anyone have a contact phone number for Joe Winters of Richards, MO? >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 12 21:41:57 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:41:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO In-Reply-To: <16670383.1208057696413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <16670383.1208057696413.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <48018F15.20109@scrtc.com> Thanks Tim. I had a person send me his phone number but if you see him, please tell him I'll be in touch with him soon. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Tim Christoff wrote: >Tommy, I might see him tomorrow. He usually shows up at our clubs swap meet and that is tomorrow. If so, I will get his contact info for you. > >Tim Christoff >Basehor, KS. > > >-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Judge Tommy Turner >>Sent: Apr 12, 2008 4:32 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: [SEL] Looking for Joe Winters of MO >> >>Does anyone have a contact phone number for Joe Winters of Richards, MO? >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Sun Apr 13 18:23:50 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:23:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now Message-ID: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Hey gang I have a little Case 646 (garden tractor with FEL) that I was using today to try pulling some old T-posts. I was standing beside the tractor & one just tried to tip the tractor up (definitely needs more rear weight). Sooooo I tried sitting on the seat & it pulled the post easily. Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) Lew near Waco, TX No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM From johnculp at btes.tv Sun Apr 13 18:43:55 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:43:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now In-Reply-To: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> References: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: > Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) I need a tractor. I'm otherwise qualified. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From rotigel at alltel.net Mon Apr 14 06:11:10 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:11:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now In-Reply-To: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> References: <003601c89dce$3544bc20$6401a8c0@OFFICELEW> Message-ID: <7756B24F-DFC2-408E-982B-DBE9DCB65ADF@alltel.net> Hi Lew, We all tent to move to the DARK SIDE every now and then. If no one saw you sitting on the tractor it's best to just keep it to yourself and hope that no one finds out! Dave On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Lew Best wrote: > Hey gang > > I have a little Case 646 (garden tractor with FEL) that I was using > today to try pulling some old T-posts. I was standing beside the > tractor & one just tried to tip the tractor up (definitely needs more > rear weight). Sooooo I tried sitting on the seat & it pulled the post > easily. Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) > > Lew near Waco, TX From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Mon Apr 14 06:16:07 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:16:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] guess it's official now In-Reply-To: <7756B24F-DFC2-408E-982B-DBE9DCB65ADF@alltel.net> Message-ID: <200804141315.m3EDFlo4030896@mail804.megamailservers.com> Oh well; guess it's just middle age spread. :) Lew -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:11 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: at at lists.antique-tractor.com Subject: Re: [SEL] guess it's official now Hi Lew, We all tent to move to the DARK SIDE every now and then. If no one saw you sitting on the tractor it's best to just keep it to yourself and hope that no one finds out! Dave On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Lew Best wrote: > Hey gang > > I have a little Case 646 (garden tractor with FEL) that I was using > today to try pulling some old T-posts. I was standing beside the > tractor & one just tried to tip the tractor up (definitely needs more > rear weight). Sooooo I tried sitting on the seat & it pulled the post > easily. Guess I?m now officially a FATG! :-) > > Lew near Waco, TX _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM From jbcast at charter.net Mon Apr 14 18:37:50 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:37:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: <1207876341.47febaf596c9e@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20080414213750.LNJ0M.26000.root@fepweb07> ---- fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Damn JB, you folks look like you're having so much fun it must be illegal. > Thaks for putting those up. > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - Wot's with the jackets? Cold snap down to 73? 8-)) > It was a great day Arnie, and one member was stopped by the water patrol, illegal but let go with a warning. I think it was because he had two New Yorkers and a Canadian with him. About the jackets, it was a cold day, started at 65 degrees, only got up to 74. Funny thing is the Northerners all had jackets on. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html From jbcast at charter.net Mon Apr 14 18:39:17 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:39:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff Message-ID: <20080414213917.TW62S.26041.root@fepweb07> ---- fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Damn JB, you folks look like you're having so much fun it must be illegal. > Thaks for putting those up. > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - Wot's with the jackets? Cold snap down to 73? 8-)) > It was a great day Arnie, and one member was stopped by the water patrol, illegal but let go with a warning. I think it was because he had two New Yorkers and a Canadian with him. About the jackets, it was a cold day, started at 65 degrees, only got up to 74. Funny thing is the Northerners all had jackets on. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html From jbcast at charter.net Mon Apr 14 18:44:44 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:44:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] spring kickoff In-Reply-To: <041120081118.23733.47FF48FC000A3D9D00005CB5219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20080414214444.SXO1F.26206.root@fepweb07> ---- cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Looks like a great time JB, some really nice pics. Is pic #65 a model R&V, > if so did you get that as a kit from "Rocky"? > thanks, > Curt Andree Curt, the RV model was built by a good friend, Paul LeBeoufe. He started doing machine work when he retired from his tugboat business, does first class work, don't know where he bought the kit. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3428/109473.html From k_armstrong at arach.net.au Tue Apr 15 06:02:23 2008 From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:02:23 +0800 Subject: [SEL] BROOKTON SHOW 2008 Message-ID: <00c501c89ef8$f24b7a90$f301a8c0@armstrong> The Brookton show had a 100years of the "T" Ford, there were plenty there, I took my Manchester Truck 1928, Willys Overland 1926, McDonald SE, CF Ronaldson Tippet, EDC Southern Cross, D2 5U Caterpillar Tractor. Have a look . http://www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong/BROOKTON%202008.htm Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong Collectors of old things Perth WA Australia Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member V.C.C. of WA. member k_armstrong at arach.net.au www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Tue Apr 15 07:40:55 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:40:55 +0800 Subject: [SEL] BROOKTON SHOW 2008 In-Reply-To: <00c501c89ef8$f24b7a90$f301a8c0@armstrong> References: <00c501c89ef8$f24b7a90$f301a8c0@armstrong> Message-ID: <4804BE77.5000001@optusnet.com.au> kevin armstrong wrote: > The Brookton show had a 100years of the "T" Ford, there were plenty there, I took my Manchester Truck 1928, Willys Overland 1926, McDonald SE, CF Ronaldson Tippet, EDC Southern Cross, D2 5U Caterpillar Tractor. > > Have a look . http://www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong/BROOKTON%202008.htm > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong > Collectors of old things > Perth > WA > Australia === Hi Kevin Yes, Brookton was a great show. I was with the Machinery Preservation Club. I took my 1956 L.E. Velocette "Noddy Bike" and rode it, complete with my Bobby's helmet, in the Grande Parade. I was also very interested in the little gas producer, running a small petrol engine on charcoal. JW? === From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Apr 15 09:14:36 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:14:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool Message-ID: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya Folks, Now THIS is one clever gadget!! (be sure to watch the commercials!) http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm See ya, Arnie From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Apr 15 09:36:15 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:36:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4804D97F.3050907@scrtc.com> Arnie, Wow, a simple invention that will make the guy a millionaire several times over I'm sure. Great commercial too!! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hiya Folks, > >Now THIS is one clever gadget!! >(be sure to watch the commercials!) > >http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > >See ya, Arnie > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From tsmith at hal-pc.org Tue Apr 15 09:53:16 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:53:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Whoa! What gadget? > (be sure to watch the commercials!) From timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com Wed Apr 16 07:11:16 2008 From: timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com (Brandon Newton) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:11:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Message-ID: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real thing and have pictures for anyone who may be able to help. thanks in advance. Brandon From jopeter at omninet.net.au Wed Apr 16 16:21:56 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:21:56 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <003801c8a018$aeaad670$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3> Of course it relies on Friction.....some oil companies tell that they are eliminating Friction ,what then? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Stationary Engine List" ; "Old_Engine" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:14 AM Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool > Hiya Folks, > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Apr 16 17:41:28 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:41:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool Message-ID: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> I just looked at this "Clever Gadget" and saw that it resembles a like tool used for years in the carpet industry to pull up glue down carpet. See http://www.toolsforfloors.com/proddetails.asp And at $24 - a lot cheaper. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:21:56 +0800 "peter ogborne" writes: > Of course it relies on Friction.....some oil companies tell that they > are > eliminating Friction ,what then? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Stationary Engine List" ; > "Old_Engine" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:14 AM > Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool > > > > Hiya Folks, > > > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 16 17:45:18 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:45:18 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <48069D9E.2080409@optusnet.com.au> fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: > Hiya Folks, > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > See ya, Arnie === Anyone notice her beautiful finger nails? JW? === From sndakitto at activ8.net.au Thu Apr 17 00:42:15 2008 From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au (Steven N Kitto) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:42:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <000c01c8a05e$91ce5e50$b56b1af0$@net.au> I have something similar to lift auto/truck batteries. One of the best tools I've ever owned Steve Steve and Denise Kitto 95 Coleyville Road Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 Ph 07 54671541 As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jlb94 at juno.com Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2008 10:41 To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Really Clever Tool I just looked at this "Clever Gadget" and saw that it resembles a like tool used for years in the carpet industry to pull up glue down carpet. See http://www.toolsforfloors.com/proddetails.asp And at $24 - a lot cheaper. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:21:56 +0800 "peter ogborne" writes: > Of course it relies on Friction.....some oil companies tell that they > are > eliminating Friction ,what then? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Stationary Engine List" ; > "Old_Engine" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:14 AM > Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool > > > > Hiya Folks, > > > > Now THIS is one clever gadget!! > > (be sure to watch the commercials!) > > > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 01:51:07 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:51:07 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home Message-ID: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx. Picked it up yesterday from a farm outside Stafford, took a few pic's: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red1.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red2.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red3.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red4.jpg "Red" in the filename is for "Reduced Size", not the colour of the Onan :-)) Needs a starting handle (but it also has electric start) and that pattern on the head is welding of a frosted area. If anyone has a starting handle spare, or can loan one for a pattern, let me know please? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jmackess at twcny.rr.com Thu Apr 17 07:06:40 2008 From: jmackess at twcny.rr.com (James Mackessy) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> Message-ID: <000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> Hello Brandon; I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about where people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck on your research! Jim Mackessy Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Newton" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real thing and have pictures for anyone who may be able to help. thanks in advance. Brandon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From johnculp at btes.tv Thu Apr 17 06:37:14 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:37:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <000c01c8a05e$91ce5e50$b56b1af0$@net.au> References: <20080416.204135.1520.0.jlb94@juno.com> <000c01c8a05e$91ce5e50$b56b1af0$@net.au> Message-ID: <4d2d00cad01e4fa81c7b65bd9070878b@btes.tv> I don't think she looks like she could lift a big truck battery. John On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Steven N Kitto wrote: > I have something similar to lift auto/truck batteries. One of the best > tools > I've ever owned > Steve John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com Thu Apr 17 08:40:52 2008 From: timber at timbernewtoninteriors.com (Brandon Newton) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:40:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Message-ID: <8ED69E35F611459EB91CEDDD20D4784C.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> thanks Jim..very helpfull info.. Brandon Newton 1436 Candlewood Street Fredericksburg Va 22407 www.timbernewtoninteriors.com ----- Original Message ----- From: James Mackessy [mailto:jmackess at twcny.rr.com] To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Hello Brandon; I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about where people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck on your research! Jim Mackessy Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Newton" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real thing and have pictures for anyone who may be able to help. thanks in advance. Brandon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Apr 17 07:46:36 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:46:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM> <000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> Message-ID: <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the saying originates from. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mackessy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > Hello Brandon; > I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the > "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on > "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words > "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah > McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were > displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of > research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about > where > people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck > on your research! > Jim Mackessy > Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brandon Newton" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM > Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > > Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real > thing and have pictures for anyone > who may be able to help. > thanks in advance. > > > Brandon > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu Apr 17 09:03:07 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:03:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator In-Reply-To: <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> >From the http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ website: "Real McCoy" Of the biographical sketches of Elijah McCoy one finds in books and on the Internet, a good many aim more for inspiration than historical accuracy and rely more on wishful thinking than evidence. The most fanciful writers fantasize that Elijah was the original Real McCoy, who gave rise to the expression that means "the genuine article." According to the fantasy, locomotive and factory machine operators demanded "real" McCoy products, preferring them to the pieces of junk hawked by less able competitors who could do no better than copy McCoy's creations. While the details of the story vary somewhat depending on the source, one thing that remains constant is a lack of evidence to back it all up. Never do the storytellers offer any concrete information that establishes a credible link between Elijah McCoy and the "Real" nickname. Extreme claims about McCoy lubricators dominating the market or becoming the industry-wide standard go unsubstantiated as well; such McCoy-centric historical views do not mesh with other, more reliable accounts of lubricator development.[8] Slang dictionaries and other linguistic publications do not support the notion of Elijah McCoy being the "real" one.[9] Most of them, after discussing one or more competing theories about how the phrase began (involving either a famous boxer, a clan chieftain, a cattle baron, a Prohibition-era rumrunner, a family feud, pure heroin from Macao, or an old Irish ballad) reach a conclusion similar to that of the Oxford English Dictionary, which says "Its origin remains uncertain." Although the ultimate source of Real McCoy may never be known, we can at least trace back early forms of the expression to Scotland years before Elijah McCoy began plying his trade. The Scottish National Dictionary presents an example from 1856: "A drappie o' the real McKay," meaning a drop of genuine Scotch whiskey.[10] The dictionary also says, "The phrase ['real Mackay'] was adopted as an advertising slogan by Messrs. G. Mackay and Co., whisky distillers of Edinburgh, in 1870 and must have been already current by that date." Variant spellings included Mackay, McCoy, and McKie (all equivalent to the Gaelic MacAoidh), with real McCoy eventually becoming the standard American form. Whether one or more specific persons named McCoy helped popularize the phrase or influence its spelling remains speculative. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:47 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the saying originates from. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mackessy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > Hello Brandon; > I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the > "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on > "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the words > "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah > McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were > displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of > research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about > where > people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good luck > on your research! > Jim Mackessy > Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brandon Newton" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM > Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > > Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the real > thing and have pictures for anyone > who may be able to help. > thanks in advance. > > > Brandon > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > ---- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 17 09:39:36 2008 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:39:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> Message-ID: <004101c8a0a9$a054d350$1301a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> > Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the saying > originates from. > Rick > >> > > > > I was under the impression that "Real McCoy's " .......weren't . http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ http://www.textbookleague.org/35fake.htm From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Apr 17 10:14:45 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:14:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04> <03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <48078585.2080009@scrtc.com> Darn, and I thought the Hatfields here in KY came up with it! (..... make sure you shoot at a Real McCoy!). Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >>From the http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ website: > > >"Real McCoy" >Of the biographical sketches of Elijah McCoy one finds in books and on >the Internet, a good many aim more for inspiration than historical >accuracy and rely more on wishful thinking than evidence. The most >fanciful writers fantasize that Elijah was the original Real McCoy, who >gave rise to the expression that means "the genuine article." According >to the fantasy, locomotive and factory machine operators demanded "real" >McCoy products, preferring them to the pieces of junk hawked by less >able competitors who could do no better than copy McCoy's creations. >While the details of the story vary somewhat depending on the source, >one thing that remains constant is a lack of evidence to back it all up. >Never do the storytellers offer any concrete information that >establishes a credible link between Elijah McCoy and the "Real" >nickname. Extreme claims about McCoy lubricators dominating the market >or becoming the industry-wide standard go unsubstantiated as well; such >McCoy-centric historical views do not mesh with other, more reliable >accounts of lubricator development.[8] > >Slang dictionaries and other linguistic publications do not support the >notion of Elijah McCoy being the "real" one.[9] Most of them, after >discussing one or more competing theories about how the phrase began >(involving either a famous boxer, a clan chieftain, a cattle baron, a >Prohibition-era rumrunner, a family feud, pure heroin from Macao, or an >old Irish ballad) reach a conclusion similar to that of the Oxford >English Dictionary, which says "Its origin remains uncertain." > >Although the ultimate source of Real McCoy may never be known, we can at >least trace back early forms of the expression to Scotland years before >Elijah McCoy began plying his trade. The Scottish National Dictionary >presents an example from 1856: "A drappie o' the real McKay," meaning a >drop of genuine Scotch whiskey.[10] The dictionary also says, "The >phrase ['real Mackay'] was adopted as an advertising slogan by Messrs. >G. Mackay and Co., whisky distillers of Edinburgh, in 1870 and must have >been already current by that date." Variant spellings included Mackay, >McCoy, and McKie (all equivalent to the Gaelic MacAoidh), with real >McCoy eventually becoming the standard American form. Whether one or >more specific persons named McCoy helped popularize the phrase or >influence its spelling remains speculative. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick >Rowlands >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:47 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > >Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the >saying >originates from. > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Mackessy" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > > > >>Hello Brandon; >> I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the >>"Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on >>"MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the >> >> >words > > >>"McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah >>McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were >>displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of >>research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about >> >> > > > >>where >>people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good >> >> >luck > > >>on your research! >>Jim Mackessy >>Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Brandon Newton" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM >>Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator >> >> >>Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the >> >> >real > > >>thing and have pictures for anyone >>who may be able to help. >>thanks in advance. >> >> >>Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >---- > > >>---- >> >> >> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From andyglines at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 13:39:34 2008 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:39:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like a nifty little rig. Maybe the piston tried to come out while the head was still on one time. I'll bet that that little water cooled engine runs nice and quiet. Is 50Hz power the norm in europe? In the US we use 60Hz. I would imagine that speeding the engine up to 1800 RPM would give 60Hz if needed though. > 5. Onan Generator comes home (Listerdiesel)> Message: 5> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:51:07 +0100> From: Listerdiesel > Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home> To: Stationary-Engine ,> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> Message-ID:>> We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last> week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial> 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx.> > Picked it up yesterday from a farm outside Stafford, took a few pic's:> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red1.jpg> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red2.jpg> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red3.jpg> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red4.jpg> > "Red" in the filename is for "Reduced Size", not the colour of the Onan :-))> > Needs a starting handle (but it also has electric start) and that> pattern on the head is welding of a frosted area. If anyone has a> starting handle spare, or can loan one for a pattern, let me know> please?> > Peter> -- > Peter A Forbes> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel> http://stationary-engine.co.uk> http://www.oldengine.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A From andyglines at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 13:49:55 2008 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:49:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Oiler gaskets. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Glenn & Keith. Thanks for the answers. First I will look to see if I have any Cork gasket material. I'm not even sure what the diameter is right now. About 1.5"> > Message: 8> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:05:34 -0400> From: Keith Kinney > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets> To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: <8A06509A-175E-41C8-862B-D3606AE7327A at herculesengines.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes> > Andy> Get ahold of Hit and Miss Enterprises or Starbolt and give them the > diameter of your glass. The will have cork gaskets to fit.> Keith> > On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Andy Glines wrote:> > >> > I have a drip oiler on the crosshead of my steam engine. The oiler > > was leaking aroung the glass so I attempted to make new gaskets > > using cardboard like a cereal box is made of. The oiler still leaks > > so I need to know what kind of gasket material works best for this. > > I also need to know how tight should I screw the top down on the > > oiler. I don't want to risk breaking the glass.> > Keith Kinney> kkinney at herculesengines.com> WWW.HerculesEngines.com> > Message: 9> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT)> From: Glenn Karch > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Oiler Gaskets> To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: <306110.26111.qm at web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > Andy,> > I have plenty of the thin cork gasket material to make any size oiler gaskets.> > Glenn _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 17 14:15:59 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:15:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] mail server virus Message-ID: _http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/mailserver.asp_ (http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/mailserver.asp) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Apr 17 16:46:20 2008 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:46:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Really Clever Tool In-Reply-To: <48069D9E.2080409@optusnet.com.au> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> <48069D9E.2080409@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <1208475980.4807e14c4f422@webmail.city-net.com> She has finger nails? Whoda thunk it... 8->> Quoting Jack Watson : > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > === > Anyone notice her beautiful finger nails? > JW? > === From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Apr 17 19:37:41 2008 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:37:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator References: <6DF0936F1F214C1E8E6F2576ED9FD1B7.MAI@ENLISTEDVISION.COM><000f01c8a094$4465b7e0$7c313b18@ownerfm3tybt04><03f101c8a099$d676a7c0$0201a8c0@pengy> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A36E39@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <001301c8a0fd$2d0dfa80$0201a8c0@pengy> Thats what I get for getting a history lesson from the Greenfield Village! They had an actor portraying Elijah McCoy a few years back. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > >From the http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/mccoy/ website: > > > "Real McCoy" > Of the biographical sketches of Elijah McCoy one finds in books and on > the Internet, a good many aim more for inspiration than historical > accuracy and rely more on wishful thinking than evidence. The most > fanciful writers fantasize that Elijah was the original Real McCoy, who > gave rise to the expression that means "the genuine article." According > to the fantasy, locomotive and factory machine operators demanded "real" > McCoy products, preferring them to the pieces of junk hawked by less > able competitors who could do no better than copy McCoy's creations. > While the details of the story vary somewhat depending on the source, > one thing that remains constant is a lack of evidence to back it all up. > Never do the storytellers offer any concrete information that > establishes a credible link between Elijah McCoy and the "Real" > nickname. Extreme claims about McCoy lubricators dominating the market > or becoming the industry-wide standard go unsubstantiated as well; such > McCoy-centric historical views do not mesh with other, more reliable > accounts of lubricator development.[8] > > Slang dictionaries and other linguistic publications do not support the > notion of Elijah McCoy being the "real" one.[9] Most of them, after > discussing one or more competing theories about how the phrase began > (involving either a famous boxer, a clan chieftain, a cattle baron, a > Prohibition-era rumrunner, a family feud, pure heroin from Macao, or an > old Irish ballad) reach a conclusion similar to that of the Oxford > English Dictionary, which says "Its origin remains uncertain." > > Although the ultimate source of Real McCoy may never be known, we can at > least trace back early forms of the expression to Scotland years before > Elijah McCoy began plying his trade. The Scottish National Dictionary > presents an example from 1856: "A drappie o' the real McKay," meaning a > drop of genuine Scotch whiskey.[10] The dictionary also says, "The > phrase ['real Mackay'] was adopted as an advertising slogan by Messrs. > G. Mackay and Co., whisky distillers of Edinburgh, in 1870 and must have > been already current by that date." Variant spellings included Mackay, > McCoy, and McKie (all equivalent to the Gaelic MacAoidh), with real > McCoy eventually becoming the standard American form. Whether one or > more specific persons named McCoy helped popularize the phrase or > influence its spelling remains speculative. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:47 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > Sounds to me like you got "the Real McCoy"! Yes this is where the > saying > originates from. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Mackessy" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator > > >> Hello Brandon; >> I don't know if you've tried this yet or not, but if you go to the >> "Google Search" page and check the headings, (you may have to click on >> "MORE", and choose "Patents", you can search patents. I put in the > words >> "McCoy lubricator" and came up with 5 pages worth of patents by Elijah >> McCoy, some dating back to the 1870's. The ones I looked at were >> displacement type lubricators of varying designs. I have done a lot of >> research using this on-line tool, and one can get a lot of clues about > >> where >> people lived and who they worked for at the time of the patents. Good > luck >> on your research! >> Jim Mackessy >> Camillus Canal Society Steam Engine Project >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brandon Newton" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:11 AM >> Subject: [SEL] McCoy Lubricator >> >> >> Anyone know anything about a Mccoy Lubricator? I believe I have the > real >> thing and have pictures for anyone >> who may be able to help. >> thanks in advance. >> >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- >> ---- >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 23:25:01 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:25:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f6025160804172325u717e8006lebe6d378291b62b6@mail.gmail.com> On 17/04/2008, Andy Glines wrote: > > Looks like a nifty little rig. Maybe the piston tried to come out while the head was still on one time. I'll bet that that little water cooled engine runs nice and quiet. Is 50Hz power the norm in europe? In the US we use 60Hz. I would imagine that speeding the engine up to 1800 RPM would give 60Hz if needed though. Andy: That was frost damage :-)) 50Hz is pretty much standard all through Europe and Asia, but there are pockets of 60Hz around, particularly where there are no national grid supplies. The engine can be run at 60Hz to give more output, that would be 1800rpm, but noisier. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Fri Apr 18 08:54:53 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:54:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the last time I was there. Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana before going to Portland. If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person should really see, please email off list with the name and location of collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would like to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. Thanks George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 10:02:14 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:02:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! Tommy Turner Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ From cgandree at mchsi.com Fri Apr 18 13:54:06 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:54:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <041820082054.1262.48090A6E00082E78000004EE219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Ok Tommy....so what hapen to the term "Illinois, Land of Lincoln"? Heck its even on our license plates! Not trying to start the civil war over again, BUT? Curt Andree Illinois, born and raised. ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:20 +0000 > OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote > for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln > Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here > so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine > related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a > patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that > "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > > > http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to- > begin-may-10/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From glenn.karch at att.net Fri Apr 18 14:19:18 2008 From: glenn.karch at att.net (Glenn Karch) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. Glenn ----- Original Message ---- From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM Subject: [SEL] Help Needed OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! Tommy Turner Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Apr 18 14:16:30 2008 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:16:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed Message-ID: <20080418.171630.1324.9.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Tommy, We could sit and vote all day. It seems to be accepting all the votes that I send Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone (_o_) who'll never find out." From mark.666 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 18 14:41:32 2008 From: mark.666 at blueyonder.co.uk (Mark Williams) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:41:32 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4809158C.1000006@blueyonder.co.uk> Come on Guys you all know he was English (well bar a generation or so) Mark Glenn Karch wrote: > Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. > > Glenn > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Judge Tommy Turner > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM > Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > > OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote > for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln > Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here > so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine > related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a > patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that > "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Apr 18 15:37:04 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:37:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see a picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote > for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln > Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here > so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine > related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a > patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that > "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > > > http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:39:17 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:39:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <041820082054.1262.48090A6E00082E78000004EE219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <041820082054.1262.48090A6E00082E78000004EE219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <48092315.2090209@scrtc.com> Hey Curt, License plates don't tell the whole story!! Lincoln was born in KY and spent the first 8 years of his life here. His wife was a Kentuckian, his 3 law partners were all Kentuckians, his best friend was a Kentuckian and so on. Lincoln once said "I too am a Kentuckian" and regarding Kentucky and the Civil War "I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky". During Lincoln's whole life, Kentucky played a role. Yes, the Illinois license plate says "Land of Lincoln". But, he certainly belongs to more than just Illinois. Hey, don't worry, there won't be another civil war over it, maybe just a skirmish or two! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >Ok Tommy....so what hapen to the term "Illinois, Land of Lincoln"? Heck its >even on our license plates! Not trying to start the civil war over again, BUT? >Curt Andree >Illinois, born and raised. > > >---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:20 +0000 > > > >>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >> >> >> >>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to- >>begin-may-10/ >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:40:25 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:40:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <20080418.171630.1324.9.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20080418.171630.1324.9.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <48092359.40003@scrtc.com> Great Joe, rack 'em up! Tommy jlb94 at juno.com wrote: >Hi Tommy, > >We could sit and vote all day. >It seems to be accepting all the votes that I send > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ " Real generosity is doing something for someone > (_o_) who'll never find out." >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:42:55 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:42:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480923EF.7030302@scrtc.com> Hey Glenn, it really is. We've got a group formed called the "Tri States Committee" and one of our National commission members is from Evansville. Not sure why the Evansville paper is doing the poll. But here's the key thing, when you celebrate the Bicentennial of Lincoln's birth, its centering around just that, his birth. That happend in Kentucky. I'll be at a program in Lincoln City Indiana on May 10 and 11. Tommy Glenn Karch wrote: >Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. > >Glenn > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >To: The SEL email discussion list >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM >Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > >OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! > >Tommy Turner > > > >Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." > > > >http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 15:45:49 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:45:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <4809158C.1000006@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <697683.27886.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4809158C.1000006@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4809249D.4020401@scrtc.com> Well yes Mark, that's right. Go back 3 generations from Abe and his folks were across the big water. Tommy Turner Mark Williams wrote: >Come on Guys you all know he was English (well bar a generation or so) > >Mark > >Glenn Karch wrote: > > >>Hey Tommy, I don't live too far from Lincoln City and Boonville where Lincoln learned the law. I think it should be a tri-state event. >> >>Glenn >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ---- >>From: Judge Tommy Turner >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:02:14 PM >>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >> >>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 18 16:12:37 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:12:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> <001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com> Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this stuff as much as I have the old iron! Tommy Turner Mike Royster wrote: >Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see a >picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's >just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. > >MR > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >Subject: [SEL] Help Needed > > > > >>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >> >> >> >>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Fri Apr 18 17:31:28 2008 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:31:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <200804190031.m3J0V0eY008934@mail804.megamailservers.com> You got it Tommy Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron too! Tommy Turner Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that "should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events -set-to-begin-may-10/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.1/1384 - Release Date: 4/17/2008 3:47 PM From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Apr 19 04:32:12 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:32:12 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! Message-ID: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. SEL seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:58:48 +0000 > Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the > last time I was there. > > Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will > try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and > Indiana before going to Portland. > > If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person > should really see, please email off list with the name and location of > collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com > > Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would like > to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. > > Thanks > > George > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee > and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader > of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sat Apr 19 05:14:51 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:14:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! References: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <002e01c8a216$fa6ff2c0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> I have to say that my last visit to Baraboo, two years ago, was impressive. I agree with Curt. The whole event, for the Ozzies, was as good as it gets. Portland, with their re arranging of areas, was missing a lot of earlier 'feel'. I hope they have sorted it for this year. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. > SEL > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. > Curt Andree > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: "Best, George" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:58:48 +0000 > >> Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the >> last time I was there. >> >> Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will >> try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and >> Indiana before going to Portland. >> >> If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person >> should really see, please email off list with the name and location of >> collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com >> >> Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would like >> to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. >> >> Thanks >> >> George >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >> addressee >> and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the >> reader >> of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized >> representative of >> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of >> this >> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >> communication in >> error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and >> any >> attachments from your system. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 19 05:34:34 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:34:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com><001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> OOOoooooo I like this! Then you know Nancy actually was in Bostic and did live with the Enloes as a hired girl. In Lincoln's hanwriting "I was born in" means squat as he has no cognitive memory of the event, only what he was told, much as you or I do. There are eyewitnesses here as well that remember Nancy giving birth here, moving to KY then marrying Lincoln. This debate will only be proven in the next world!!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed > Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the > Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate > son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we > detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the > Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own > handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county > of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of > the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln > Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in > LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, > Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running > for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas > ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis > lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center > folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof > that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, > the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at > the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are > ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing > Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the > Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to > where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this > stuff as much as I have the old iron! > > Tommy Turner > > > > Mike Royster wrote: > >>Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see >>a >>picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's >>just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. >> >>MR >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >> >> >> >> >>>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron >>>too! >>> >>>Tommy Turner >>> >>> >>> >>>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >>> >>> >>> >>>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 19 08:35:03 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:35:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed In-Reply-To: <001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com><001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com> <001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <480A1127.8030407@scrtc.com> No Mike as there's no proof that the "Nancy" who lived in NC was the same Nancy that gave birth to Abe, other than people saying "we think it was her". None of the timelines work out as Thomas and Nancy were married in Springfield, KY in 1806. The marriage license is proof, the minister wrote of the marriage as well as several others that were in attendance. So, if Nancy already had Abe in 1806, he would be older than Sarah. Sarah refers to herself as "Abe's older sister" and at the school they attended here in LaRue County there is the writings from a lady in the 1860's (she being in her 70's then) who wrote of attending the school with Sarah and her "little brother Abe". This would also mean that Abe would have had to be born prior to 1806 when Thomas and Nancy married. So instead of Abe being 8 when they left KY, he would have been about 12 or possibly older. I did an interview with a newspaper out of NC a few weeks ago regarding this very thing. There are a LOT of problems with the Bostic claim. Supposedly, Tom Lincoln was working in the woods and at a sawmill in NC when Enloe convinced him to marry Nancy and head to KY. The problem is Tom was a surveyor, carpenter, and worked for the county here in KY and records show (from the county for payments to him, receipts for work he did, etc.) he was here in KY, not NC during this time period. Bostic has an interesting story, although I agree with you about congnitive memory as most of the info is gathered from folks in their 80's plus speaking of when they were a few years old (hey, come to think of it, I think when I was 4 dad told me something about him and Marilyn Monroe..... I guess it makes it fact!). I think the best thing to do would be DNA tests. Dig up Enloe or find one of his surviving decendents and do the DNA match against some of Lincoln's DNA (we have some of his hair so we could gather it). "Kentucky Land of Abe"! :-) Tommy Turner >OOOoooooo I like this! Then you know Nancy actually was in Bostic and did >live with the Enloes as a hired girl. In Lincoln's hanwriting "I was born >in" means squat as he has no cognitive memory of the event, only what he was >told, much as you or I do. There are eyewitnesses here as well that >remember Nancy giving birth here, moving to KY then marrying Lincoln. This >debate will only be proven in the next world!!!!!! > >MR >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:12 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed > > > > >>Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the >>Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate >>son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we >>detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the >>Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own >>handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county >>of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of >>the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln >>Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in >>LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, >>Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running >>for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas >>ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis >>lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center >>folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof >>that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, >>the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at >>the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are >>ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing >>Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the >>Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to >>where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this >>stuff as much as I have the old iron! >> >>Tommy Turner >> >> >> >>Mike Royster wrote: >> >> >> >>>Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you see >>>a >>>picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. Let's >>>just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. >>> >>>MR >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >>>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>>>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>>>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born here >>>>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>>>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>>>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron >>>>too! >>>> >>>>Tommy Turner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>>>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 10:18:33 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804172325u717e8006lebe6d378291b62b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24524.85586.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Let's not overlook Japan, where part of the country is on 50Hz, the other part 60Hz. Bill From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 09:38:22 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:38:22 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.com> On 17/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > week Update, after a very busy day in the workshop! Got the rest of the axle stubs for the Caterpillar 1Y73 finished and tapped (pic url below) that is an M16 X 2 tap in the picture. Then spent most of the rest of the day sorting out the Onan mounting and cleaning up the trolley. It only needed a bit of a wire brush on the wheels and WD40 on the timber to remove a bit of oily residue. It's a lot more secure now, and there are proper fasteners instead of the 6" "Farmers Special" nails holding it down. We also balanced it so the trolley pivots without undue pressure either way, and the generator is now properly central on the trolley (side to side) Peter http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red5.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red6.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red7.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red8.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/O...illarAxle7.jpg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From kosh at ncweb.com Sat Apr 19 11:43:28 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:43:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080419143736.03a0fea8@ncweb.com> Just signed on to SEL (frequently accused of being a FATG) Wondering what the CAT engine is? Sounds like a 1 cyl test engine? Somewhere in the email chain elided the link. Here is the repaired link: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/CaterpillarAxle7.jpg Wouldn't mind finding something like that Onan, looks nice, hows it run? Dave Merchant At 12:38 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote: >On 17/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > > week > >Update, after a very busy day in the workshop! > >Got the rest of the axle stubs for the Caterpillar 1Y73 finished and >tapped (pic url below) that is an M16 X 2 tap in the picture. > >Then spent most of the rest of the day sorting out the Onan mounting >and cleaning up the trolley. It only needed a bit of a wire brush on >the wheels and WD40 on the timber to remove a bit of oily residue. > >It's a lot more secure now, and there are proper fasteners instead of >the 6" "Farmers Special" nails holding it down. We also balanced it so >the trolley pivots without undue pressure either way, and the >generator is now properly central on the trolley (side to side) > >Peter > >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red5.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red6.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red7.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/OnanW2Red8.jpg >http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/O...illarAxle7.jpg > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 02:42:00 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Nick Lozzi, Fuller & Johnson engine registrar, Massachusetts In-Reply-To: <1208475980.4807e14c4f422@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <662793.87419.qm@web59212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi, Guys, Anyone have an email address for Nick? I visited Chiba Prefecture Technical School yesterday and saw nicely restored F & J. Am wondering if he is aware and has it in registery. Bill From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 02:46:17 2008 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bessemer registrar In-Reply-To: <1208475980.4807e14c4f422@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <850604.14514.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, More. Is anyone aware of someone doing a Bessemer registration? Bill fero_ah at city-net.com wrote: She has finger nails? Whoda thunk it... 8->> Quoting Jack Watson : > > http://gorillagripper.com/index.htm > > > === > Anyone notice her beautiful finger nails? > JW? > === _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 11:54:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:54:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20080419143736.03a0fea8@ncweb.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20080419143736.03a0fea8@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804191154k7cbb8f79t52c90da34e36bda9@mail.gmail.com> On 19/04/2008, Dave Merchant wrote: > Just signed on to SEL (frequently accused of being a FATG) > > Wondering what the CAT engine is? > Sounds like a 1 cyl test engine? > > Somewhere in the email chain elided the link. > Here is the repaired link: > > > http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/CaterpillarAxle7.jpg > > > Wouldn't mind finding something like that Onan, looks nice, hows it run? > > Dave Merchant > Hi Dave: I did post a corrected url immediately after the original, but thanks for picking it up as well. The Caterpillar 1Y73 is indeed a single-cylinder research diesel engine for testing fuels and lubricants. We have a pair in captivity: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu.htm or on the UK site: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Caterpillar/CaterpillarMenu.htm The Onan hasn't run yet, we are waiting for some exhaust flanges to be laser cut so we can make a new exhaust manifold stub for it. It looks pretty good, we hope to have it running during next week. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 20 13:39:17 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:39:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: Need some help with the gear water pump on my 1914 Famous. Does anyone know how the brass gear on the moving shaft of the water pump is attached? It appears that it may be a tight fitting steel pin thru the gear and shaft, solid, not rolled. I have hit it a couple of times with a punch, but it does not move. I do not want to hit it too hard before I know what it is. I do not see any signs of a slotted screw head. I have a break down of the parts, but mine only shows the gear on the shaft, not how it is held. My pump shaft and housing bushings have worn to the extent that I need to replace with an oversize shaft, so the gear has to come off. This shaft is brass and the bushings are the brass case. Interesting, the fixed shaft is steel and it and the brass gear are still a tight fit. Got to get it fixed quick as the first show of the season is next Saturday! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Apr 20 14:48:05 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:48:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <6EDF64A3-BC1F-4A2A-99DC-FB672DCE1378@alltel.net> Sure hope to see you at the ATIS dinner and charity auction, George! Dave On Apr 18, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Best, George wrote: > Looks like I'll be going to Portland this year! I think 2001 was the > last time I was there. > > Will be flying in to Chicago before the show and renting a car. Will > try to visit some engine collectors in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and > Indiana before going to Portland. > > If you know of some engine collections in those states that a person > should really see, please email off list with the name and location of > collectors we should try to visit. George_best at adp.com > > Already have 1 collector in each of the above states that we would > like > to visit, but still have to make contact and arrange times to visit. > > Thanks > > George > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended > recipient or an authorized representative of the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and > delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jthall at worldnet.att.net Sun Apr 20 15:35:12 2008 From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:35:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Famous help References: Message-ID: <001001c8a336$ccc6ef10$f8d24c0c@D48VHZ61> Well it appears you will be going to Reidsville! I don't know what the pin is but I'm wondering if it is a taper pin. Have you tried tapping both sides? I understand not wanting to hit away with a hammer so is it possible to measure both sides with a caliper to see if it is a tapered pin? John Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: [SEL] Famous help > Need some help with the gear water pump on my 1914 Famous. Does anyone > know > how the brass gear on the moving shaft of the water pump is attached? It > appears that it may be a tight fitting steel pin thru the gear and shaft, > solid, not rolled. I have hit it a couple of times with a punch, but it > does not > move. I do not want to hit it too hard before I know what it is. I do > not > see any signs of a slotted screw head. I have a break down of the parts, > but > mine only shows the gear on the shaft, not how it is held. My pump shaft > and > housing bushings have worn to the extent that I need to replace with an > oversize shaft, so the gear has to come off. This shaft is brass and the > bushings > are the brass case. Interesting, the fixed shaft is steel and it and the > brass gear are still a tight fit. > > Got to get it fixed quick as the first show of the season is next > Saturday! > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 20 15:57:37 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:57:37 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: John, Thanks, the pin is out. The problem was the pin was recessed down in the gear on both sides, so very hard to tell what it was, and I thought of the tapered pin too. Figuring it had to come out one way or the other, found a small end mill and away I went. The pin was very recessed on one side, so this gave me something to align the end mill to. It was a straight steel pin, apparently a forced fit to the shaft. Headed to a friends machine shop in the morning for some precise machining! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From jthall at worldnet.att.net Sun Apr 20 16:23:38 2008 From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:23:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Famous help References: Message-ID: <000a01c8a33d$90d9e230$d4ea4c0c@D48VHZ61> Glad to hear it is out! Is this the same Famous you had at Reidsville last year? John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Famous help > John, > > Thanks, the pin is out. The problem was the pin was recessed down in the > gear on both sides, so very hard to tell what it was, and I thought of > the > tapered pin too. Figuring it had to come out one way or the other, found > a small > end mill and away I went. The pin was very recessed on one side, so this > gave me something to align the end mill to. It was a straight steel pin, > apparently a forced fit to the shaft. Headed to a friends machine shop > in the > morning for some precise machining! > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germaoamer at AOL.com > > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used > car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 19 19:48:06 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:48:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Help Needed References: <4808D416.1070409@scrtc.com><001701c8a1a4$ba4f8060$726f4b47@mikecomp> <48092AE5.8080103@scrtc.com><001701c8a219$b9b35940$726f4b47@mikecomp> <480A1127.8030407@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000001c8a353$84712600$726f4b47@mikecomp> I am only too aware of how things get changed over the years by well meaning people who want only good things for their community or state. I have seen cases where people alter "history" in order to suit their needs. Why I would never question your integrity, and I beleive you have done a great job on your research (much more than others), I do question those that came before you and me. I most heartily agree, DNA will be the only way this riddle gets solved. Congrats on your efforts and I hope you get the votes! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed > No Mike as there's no proof that the "Nancy" who lived in NC was the > same Nancy that gave birth to Abe, other than people saying "we think it > was her". None of the timelines work out as Thomas and Nancy were > married in Springfield, KY in 1806. The marriage license is proof, the > minister wrote of the marriage as well as several others that were in > attendance. So, if Nancy already had Abe in 1806, he would be older > than Sarah. Sarah refers to herself as "Abe's older sister" and at the > school they attended here in LaRue County there is the writings from a > lady in the 1860's (she being in her 70's then) who wrote of attending > the school with Sarah and her "little brother Abe". This would also > mean that Abe would have had to be born prior to 1806 when Thomas and > Nancy married. So instead of Abe being 8 when they left KY, he would > have been about 12 or possibly older. > > I did an interview with a newspaper out of NC a few weeks ago regarding > this very thing. There are a LOT of problems with the Bostic claim. > Supposedly, Tom Lincoln was working in the woods and at a sawmill in NC > when Enloe convinced him to marry Nancy and head to KY. The problem is > Tom was a surveyor, carpenter, and worked for the county here in KY and > records show (from the county for payments to him, receipts for work he > did, etc.) he was here in KY, not NC during this time period. Bostic > has an interesting story, although I agree with you about congnitive > memory as most of the info is gathered from folks in their 80's plus > speaking of when they were a few years old (hey, come to think of it, I > think when I was 4 dad told me something about him and Marilyn > Monroe..... I guess it makes it fact!). > > I think the best thing to do would be DNA tests. Dig up Enloe or find > one of his surviving decendents and do the DNA match against some of > Lincoln's DNA (we have some of his hair so we could gather it). > > "Kentucky Land of Abe"! :-) > > Tommy Turner > > > >>OOOoooooo I like this! Then you know Nancy actually was in Bostic and did >>live with the Enloes as a hired girl. In Lincoln's hanwriting "I was born >>in" means squat as he has no cognitive memory of the event, only what he >>was >>told, much as you or I do. There are eyewitnesses here as well that >>remember Nancy giving birth here, moving to KY then marrying Lincoln. >>This >>debate will only be proven in the next world!!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:12 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Help Needed >> >> >> >> >>>Oh yes Mike, there is much proof. You've listened to those folks at the >>>Bostic Center too much who say Lincoln must have been the illigetimate >>>son of Enloe because he "looked like" Enloe. If that's the way we >>>detemine who his father was, then old Abe must be the dad of some of the >>>Lincoln look alikes that certainly favor him! In Lincoln's own >>>handwriting he wrote "I was born Feb. 12, 1809 in Hardin, now the county >>>of LaRue, Kentucky on the Sinking Spring. My first recollection is of >>>the Knob Creek place" (which is also in LaRue County). The Lincoln >>>Family Bible, which I've held in my hands and is on display here in >>>LaRue County, has the entry "born of Thomas and Nancy, Feb. 12, 1809, >>>Abraham". Also, Nancy's cousin, Dennis, wrote while Lincoln was running >>>for political office that he remembered the day Abe was born. Thomas >>>ran to him and exclaimed that Nancy had just had a baby boy. Dennis >>>lived about a mile from the Sinking Spring Farm. The Bostic Center >>>folks claim that Abe was Enloe's illigetimate son and there was no proof >>>that Nancy and Thomas had even married yet when Abe was born. However, >>>the marriage license of Thomas and Nancy, dated June 1806, is on file at >>>the Washington County Courthouse here in Kentucky. Also, there are >>>ledger entries from the Haycraft store in Elizabethtown, KY showing >>>Thomas and Nancy buying goods there prior to their purchase of the >>>Sinking Spring farm and moving to it. Much, much proof pointing to >>>where Lincoln was born, and it wasn't NC. Hey, I've researched this >>>stuff as much as I have the old iron! >>> >>>Tommy Turner >>> >>> >>> >>>Mike Royster wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Not to argue, but there is no proof Lincoln was born in KY, and if you >>>>see >>>>a >>>>picture of Abraham Enloe, there is no question who his father was. >>>>Let's >>>>just say KY is most associated with Lincoln. >>>> >>>>MR >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:02 PM >>>>Subject: [SEL] Help Needed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>OK Everybody, I need your help. Please go to the link below and vote >>>>>for KY. I chair a Commission here in KY in regards to the Lincoln >>>>>Bicentennial and also serve on the US Commission. Lincoln was born >>>>>here >>>>>so we should win! Thanks and sorry this isn't "totally" engine >>>>>related. I say that because Lincoln was the only President to hold a >>>>>patent. It was in regards to trains so in a sense, he liked old iron >>>>>too! >>>>> >>>>>Tommy Turner >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Please click the link below and vote for Kentucky as the state that >>>>>"should be most closely associated with Abraham Lincoln." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>http://www.courierpress.com/news/2008/apr/14/lincoln-bicentennial-events-set-to-begin-may-10/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Apr 20 19:43:34 2008 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:43:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] Message-ID: <480BFF56.3040606@scrtc.com> Mike, I tried to send this and it bounced back to me. Thanks. TT Thanks Mike. See you in Boone in a couple of weeks? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Mike Royster wrote: >I am only too aware of how things get changed over the years by well >meaning people who want only good things for their community or state. I >have seen cases where people alter "history" in order to suit their needs. >Why I would never question your integrity, and I beleive you have done a >great job on your research (much more than others), I do question those that >came before you and me. I most heartily agree, DNA will be the only way >this riddle gets solved. Congrats on your efforts and I hope you get the >votes! > >Mike > > > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 09:41:49 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:41:49 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> <6f6025160804190938s73ed009ep81adbc7abeac367c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160804190941w1d248fbew111b2c72897c392a@mail.gmail.com> On 19/04/2008, Listerdiesel wrote: > Update, after a very busy day in the workshop! > That last url did not come through correctly in my post: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Onan/CaterpillarAxle7.jpg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Apr 21 03:18:01 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:18:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: In a message dated 4/20/2008 7:26:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, jthall at worldnet.att.net writes: Is this the same Famous you had at Reidsville last year? It is the same one. I think this photo was taken at Reidsville many years ago. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/Famous1.htm_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/Famous1.htm) Long range forecast calls for rain next Saturday. Hope not. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 01:38:55 2008 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:38:55 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <6EDF64A3-BC1F-4A2A-99DC-FB672DCE1378@alltel.net> References: <1208276076.4804d46c22cc2@webmail.city-net.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A64619@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <6EDF64A3-BC1F-4A2A-99DC-FB672DCE1378@alltel.net> Message-ID: <6f6025160804210138j59fc7af9n671a5b542bc271c6@mail.gmail.com> On 20/04/2008, David Rotigel wrote: > Sure hope to see you at the ATIS dinner and charity auction, George! > Dave > Dave: Are you taking names and numbers for the Back 40 Junction yet? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Apr 21 03:42:31 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:42:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] References: <480BFF56.3040606@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000801c8a39c$672542e0$726f4b47@mikecomp> I am unsure at this point. Steve and I head to Reidsville this weekend but beyond that I am unsure. I may have to go "serve time" in Atlanta but hope to get out of that. Would love to be at that auction!!!! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:43 PM Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Help Needed] > Mike, > I tried to send this and it bounced back to me. Thanks. > TT > > > > Thanks Mike. See you in Boone in a couple of weeks? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > Mike Royster wrote: > >>I am only too aware of how things get changed over the years by well >>meaning people who want only good things for their community or state. I >>have seen cases where people alter "history" in order to suit their needs. >>Why I would never question your integrity, and I beleive you have done a >>great job on your research (much more than others), I do question those >>that >>came before you and me. I most heartily agree, DNA will be the only way >>this riddle gets solved. Congrats on your efforts and I hope you get the >>votes! >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 21 07:41:46 2008 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:41:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <041920081132.11875.4809D83C000089DA00002E63219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for this show? We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at Baraboo on Saturday. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. SEL seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. Curt Andree This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From stevebarr at ameritech.net Mon Apr 21 16:15:12 2008 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> George Here is a link to the map page on the club's web site. http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/maps.htm You can then click on the yahoo maps link to view a map of the area. Steve --- "Best, George" wrote: > Curt, > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for > this show? > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at > Baraboo on Saturday. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > cgandree at mchsi.com > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. > SEL > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. > Curt Andree > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient > or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Apr 22 02:15:43 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:15:43 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! Message-ID: <042220080915.17938.480DACBF0007CECF00004612219791336303010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi George, Be glad to try and reserve a room for you at the same motel all the rest of the SEL group stays at but might be better if you gave me a call on my cell so we can better discuss details. Cell: 815-238-7316 Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:48:35 +0000 > Curt, > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for > this show? > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at > Baraboo on Saturday. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > cgandree at mchsi.com > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before. > SEL > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year. > Curt Andree > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee > and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader > of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of > the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any > attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net Tue Apr 22 05:21:34 2008 From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (armstrong) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:21:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station References: <20061016035321.61476.qmail@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004101c8a473$6a94f380$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5> Joe, We just moved a 75 Hp F-M two cyl. semi-diesel from MO. to Buckley, MI. showgrounds this past weekend. I also would like the operating info you sent Elden and please let me know the cost envolved so I can reimburse you. I have lost your phone # or I would have given you a shout. I bought the extra Wendel book from you, the rope maker(the boy scouts haven't used as yet) and the gas valve. I hope I can get up your way and see the engine you were describing to Elden and pick your brain before we get the one up and running at Buckley. Regards, George F. Armstrong 17220 County Line Road Hebron, IN. 46341 Ph 219-996-6224 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Prindle" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station >I am sending you two disks, the first one contains the literature > previously mentioned, and then another one containing the first half of a > book entitled "Oil Engine Power Plant Handbook", a practical book on > setting up and operating diesel engines. THe reason I am only sending the > first half is because it is all I scanned before I got sidetracked. The > second half is all advertising, anyway. > It will go out in the morning. > If you find yourself needing rings or injector parts, let me know. We also > have extra lubricators and an injector tester. Our engines are complete > and we got a ton of parts from some others that were junked. There were a > lot of these plants around here and there are a few that are not yet > junked. > The electrical end of it is pretty simple. I hope I am right in assuming > that you will not try to use the 2200 volt generator as it is, and if you > do try to use it, you will look into rewinding it for 208Y-120 or some > other useful voltage. > If you ever get out this way and want to see a neat power plant, I have a > friend who has a hydro plant his grandpa built new in 1916. It is still > running and has seen very little repair or renovation. The plant is a 2300 > volt plant, with the electrical machinery built by Electric Machinery Co., > of Minneapolis and the turbines by James Leffel, of Springfield,Ohio. It > is a really neat little plant with nice marble switchboard and lots of > brass bezel guages and big knife switches. Very Cool. > Joe > > --- Elden DuRand wrote: > >> Joe: >> >> Your email was a sight for sore eyes! >> >> YESSSS! We'd be delighted to get a CDROM of the books. Tell me what >> the cost is and I will immediately send you a check! >> >> It's good to know that there's not a lot of rocket science involved in >> erecting these engines. I DO know that we need to be very careful with >> alignment of the shaft and that it's best to grout the engine base to >> the foundation. >> >> THANKS!!!!! >> >> Elden DuRand >> 6601 Old Zaring Road >> Crestwood, KY 40014 >> >> edurand at iglou.com >> http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> > Behalf Of Joe Prindle >> > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:33 AM >> > To: The SEL email discussion list >> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M >> > Power Station >> > >> > >> > Would a CD with a instruction and parts book be >> > OK? Our club has a twin >> > and a three cylinder Fairbanks and I scanned the >> > books into Acrobat a few >> > years ago. I can send you a disc with Instruction >> > book number 3200E, for >> > models 32E12 and 32E14. I can also send the book >> > for the Madison Kipp 50 >> > lubricator and the book on how to service the injectors. >> > You won't find a foundation print unless the one >> > for your engine has been >> > saved, that print was drawn when the engine was >> > erected at the factory, >> > and the print is for each specific engine. >> > You don't need a print, you can measure the >> > elevation of each section of >> > the foundation and the bolt pattern once the >> > engine is removed from the >> > foundation. >> > Once you see the manual, it will make more sense. >> > A few photos of the tear-out of our engines can >> > be found here: >> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/projects.htm >> > Email me your address and I will send you a cd. >> > Joe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > Joe Prindle > Baraboo, WI USA > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 22 07:23:16 2008 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:23:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station In-Reply-To: <004101c8a473$6a94f380$2f01a8c0@YOUR072EF38DA5> Message-ID: George & Joe: First, take note of my current address (permanent, I hope!). Again, thanks to Joe for the CDROM of the manuals. I learned a lot from them and copies were passed along to the recipients of the gensets from Sapelo Island. As for the generators themselves, they are 2200 Volts, 60 Hz. We salvaged the transformers (the ones that didn't have PCB's) so they can (if the recipients want) be used for 120/240 volt service. Take care - Elden DuRand 8413 Tradewinds Drive Port St Joe FL 32456 edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of armstrong > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 07:22 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M > Power Station > > > Joe, > We just moved a 75 Hp F-M two cyl. semi-diesel > from MO. to Buckley, MI. > showgrounds this past weekend. I also would like > the operating info you > sent Elden and please let me know the cost > envolved so I can reimburse you. > I have lost your phone # or I would have given > you a shout. I bought the > extra Wendel book from you, the rope maker(the > boy scouts haven't used as > yet) and the gas valve. I hope I can get up your > way and see the engine you > were describing to Elden and pick your brain > before we get the one up and > running at Buckley. Regards, George F. Armstrong > 17220 County Line Road > Hebron, IN. 46341 > Ph 219-996-6224 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Prindle" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:53 PM > Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M > Power Station > > > >I am sending you two disks, the first one > contains the literature > > previously mentioned, and then another one > containing the first half of a > > book entitled "Oil Engine Power Plant > Handbook", a practical book on > > setting up and operating diesel engines. THe > reason I am only sending the > > first half is because it is all I scanned > before I got sidetracked. The > > second half is all advertising, anyway. > > It will go out in the morning. > > If you find yourself needing rings or injector > parts, let me know. We also > > have extra lubricators and an injector tester. > Our engines are complete > > and we got a ton of parts from some others that > were junked. There were a > > lot of these plants around here and there are a > few that are not yet > > junked. > > The electrical end of it is pretty simple. I > hope I am right in assuming > > that you will not try to use the 2200 volt > generator as it is, and if you > > do try to use it, you will look into rewinding > it for 208Y-120 or some > > other useful voltage. > > If you ever get out this way and want to see a > neat power plant, I have a > > friend who has a hydro plant his grandpa built > new in 1916. It is still > > running and has seen very little repair or > renovation. The plant is a 2300 > > volt plant, with the electrical machinery built > by Electric Machinery Co., > > of Minneapolis and the turbines by James > Leffel, of Springfield,Ohio. It > > is a really neat little plant with nice marble > switchboard and lots of > > brass bezel guages and big knife switches. Very Cool. > > Joe > > > > --- Elden DuRand wrote: > > > >> Joe: > >> > >> Your email was a sight for sore eyes! > >> > >> YESSSS! We'd be delighted to get a CDROM of > the books. Tell me what > >> the cost is and I will immediately send you a check! > >> > >> It's good to know that there's not a lot of > rocket science involved in > >> erecting these engines. I DO know that we > need to be very careful with > >> alignment of the shaft and that it's best to > grout the engine base to > >> the foundation. > >> > >> THANKS!!!!! > >> > >> Elden > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> > Behalf Of Joe Prindle > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:33 AM > >> > To: The SEL email discussion list > >> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M > >> > Power Station > >> > > >> > > >> > Would a CD with a instruction and parts book be > >> > OK? Our club has a twin > >> > and a three cylinder Fairbanks and I scanned the > >> > books into Acrobat a few > >> > years ago. I can send you a disc with Instruction > >> > book number 3200E, for > >> > models 32E12 and 32E14. I can also send the book > >> > for the Madison Kipp 50 > >> > lubricator and the book on how to service > the injectors. > >> > You won't find a foundation print unless the one > >> > for your engine has been > >> > saved, that print was drawn when the engine was > >> > erected at the factory, > >> > and the print is for each specific engine. > >> > You don't need a print, you can measure the > >> > elevation of each section of > >> > the foundation and the bolt pattern once the > >> > engine is removed from the > >> > foundation. > >> > Once you see the manual, it will make more sense. > >> > A few photos of the tear-out of our engines can > >> > be found here: > >> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/projects.htm > >> > Email me your address and I will send you a cd. > >> > Joe From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Apr 23 15:51:22 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:51:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off topic! Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html Dave PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! PPS, Life is good! From avanti_64 at juno.com Wed Apr 23 17:05:09 2008 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:05:09 GMT Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <20080423.200509.17954.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Way to go Dave!!! They both don't have a clue! Joe _____________________________________________________________ Click to find local singles for dating, romance and fun http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iif6WBsV7ltYb0Z0T1knA9PYEmcrYizVJQCxeCtVantZMS0D7/ From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Apr 23 17:28:23 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:28:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! References: Message-ID: <001001c8a5a2$1af9e990$726f4b47@mikecomp> I LOVE IT!!!!!!! Great job Dr.Dave!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > topic! > > Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! > > See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > > PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > PPS, Life is good! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Apr 23 18:57:31 2008 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:57:31 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <14931311.1209002252550.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Excellent Dave! You should have a copy made and sent to her. Tim Christoff Basehor, KS. From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Wed Apr 23 15:02:21 2008 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:02:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] wiscona pep Message-ID: <000c01c8a58d$b490f630$cfd5474f@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Hi Guys, Any information on the above engines would be much appreciated, as I have concluded a deal for one. Thanks, Craig Morrison From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Apr 24 03:47:03 2008 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:47:03 +0000 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <042420081047.17658.48106527000774BF000044FA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Dave, Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all wearing that T- shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind of worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to him! Proud of your choice Dave. Curt Andree ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > topic! > > Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! > > See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > > PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > PPS, Life is good! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Thu Apr 24 05:06:24 2008 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (ArthurDeana Southwell) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:06:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! References: Message-ID: <00d101c8a603$9e65e610$7501a8c0@LapTop> Way to go Dave. Good on ya. Arthur Arthur Southwell Arthur Southwell Rebuilding Arcadia, Florida 34266 U.S.A. asouth42 at embarqmail.com http://www.homestead.com/artsouthwell/index.html http://photos.yahoo.com/mr_nocatee http://community.webshots.com/user/asouth944 http://oldengine.org/members/southwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > > PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > PPS, Life is good! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1393 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 > 8:12 AM > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 24 05:43:29 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! References: <042420081047.17658.48106527000774BF000044FA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <01f101c8a608$cf2b4dd0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of us!! (And I dont even live there) Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > Dave, > Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all wearing that > T- > shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind of > worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to him! > Proud of your choice Dave. > Curt Andree > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: David Rotigel > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > >> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama >> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in >> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for >> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off >> topic! >> >> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but >> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! >> >> See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html >> Dave >> >> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! >> PPS, Life is good! >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tsmith at hal-pc.org Thu Apr 24 06:05:53 2008 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:05:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! In-Reply-To: <01f101c8a608$cf2b4dd0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <042420081047.17658.48106527000774BF000044FA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <01f101c8a608$cf2b4dd0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: I truly wish we had more Australians in America. The ones that I know and especially those I've been associated with in the military are my kind of people. Thanks, Tom On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 "R & M Ingold" wrote: > Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of >us!! > (And I dont even live there) > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- >From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > > >> Dave, >> Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all >>wearing that >> T- >> shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind >>of >> worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to >>him! >> Proud of your choice Dave. >> Curt Andree >> >> >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- >> From: David Rotigel >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> >> Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 >> >>> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama >>> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in >>> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for >>> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off >>> topic! >>> >>> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but >>> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the >>>video! >>> >>> See: >>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html >>> Dave >>> >>> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! >>> PPS, Life is good! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 24 06:50:45 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 9:50:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Message-ID: <29650798.196781209045046081.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> Amen to that!!!! ---- Tom Smith wrote: > I truly wish we had more Australians in America. The ones that I know > and especially those I've been associated with in the military are my > kind of people. > > Thanks, > Tom > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 > "R & M Ingold" wrote: > > Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of > >us!! > > (And I dont even live there) > > Reg & Marg Ingold. > > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > > > > > >> Dave, > >> Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all > >>wearing that > >> T- > >> shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind > >>of > >> worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to > >>him! > >> Proud of your choice Dave. > >> Curt Andree > >> > >> > >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > >> From: David Rotigel > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> > >> Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > >> > >>> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > >>> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > >>> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > >>> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > >>> topic! > >>> > >>> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > >>> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the > >>>video! > >>> > >>> See: > >>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > >>> PPS, Life is good! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 24 09:55:12 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:55:12 +0200 Subject: [SEL] For the Aussies Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080424181238.00be2820@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, I hope you have all been keeping well - I've not been very active on the list of late - just been busy. A friend (fellow engine collector) of mine is emigrating to Aus (and I wish I could do the same) soon. He's going to settle in Brisbane as he has family there. He has asked me to ask my mates from Aus. (that's you guys) for some contact names of collectors and clubs in the Brisbane area as he would like to make contact with them. He does not have a great collection of engines but those engines that he does have do run beautifully. He builds aircraft for a living and is a perfectionist in whatever he does (except "paint jobs" - but that is another story - here's why ). His passions are (in order) 1) Aircraft & flying (he has the best restored "SAAB Safire" in the world - according to SAAB) This is going to Aus with him. 2) Motorcars (Mustang, Ford, Chev etc.) 3) Stationary engines. Although this one is only 3rd on the list it is the one he enjoys most because he says "the engine guys are the best" - but we all knew that already, didn't we !!! He is trying to establish which of his engines to take with - says "I'd rather take up the space in a container with 3 engines than a couch (sofa)." Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 24 10:16:53 2008 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:16:53 +0200 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20080424185859.00bf2510@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 24/04/2008, you wrote: >From: David Rotigel >Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! >To: The SEL email discussion list >I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama >quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in >rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for >comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off >topic! > >Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but >I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the video! > >See: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > Dave > >PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! >PPS, Life is good! Hi Dave, Great stuff but I'm disappointed that you could not find a space on the "Tee Shirt" for a pic of a Maytag and Axe - that would have really made it "On Topic". Now a question to members. How do I save that video file? I'm using my laptop to connect at the moment and the sound is S--T !". I'd like to save the file and play it back on my Desktop computer so that I can hear what the "Old Geezer" has to say !!! (and what his voice sounds like). On the subject of "Elections", "Democracy" and suchlike, has anyone been watching the Zimbabwe elections ? Is this what all the "do gooders" and other "Ars----es" of the world envisaged when they abandoned us and imposed sanctions on us and forced us to hand over power to the illiterate masses ? Just wondering !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Apr 24 15:30:28 2008 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:30:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lest we forget Message-ID: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> To all those who were lost at war To all those who survived To all their families LEST WE FORGET From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 24 17:10:48 2008 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:10:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lest we forget In-Reply-To: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> References: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> Message-ID: <5B28DE5BB66744E8ACDE6A1200AA1ECB@KerryPC> Well said Peter. LEST WE FORGET > To all those who were lost at war > To all those who survived > To all their families > > LEST WE FORGET > _______________________________________________ From clemsweller at etczone.com Thu Apr 24 17:52:04 2008 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (chuck emsweller) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:52:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Now Engine Show In-Reply-To: <29650798.196781209045046081.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> References: <29650798.196781209045046081.JavaMail.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> Message-ID: <000f01c8a66e$94f078a0$bed169e0$@com> Reg, he would get my vote! Headed out first thing in the morning to the Hillbilly Flywheeler's show in Irvine, KY. Anyone else on the list going to be there? Chuck Emsweller Don't Fence Me In -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of mr at carolina.rr.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:51 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! Amen to that!!!! ---- Tom Smith wrote: > I truly wish we had more Australians in America. The ones that I know > and especially those I've been associated with in the military are my > kind of people. > > Thanks, > Tom > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:43:29 +1000 > "R & M Ingold" wrote: > > Ya know, "Dave for President" sounds like a good deal for all of > >us!! > > (And I dont even live there) > > Reg & Marg Ingold. > > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > > > > > >> Dave, > >> Glad to see your back listening to RUSH again and most of all > >>wearing that > >> T- > >> shirt idea he created over national radio broadcasts........was kind > >>of > >> worried about you last August when you said you stopped listening to > >>him! > >> Proud of your choice Dave. > >> Curt Andree > >> > >> > >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > >> From: David Rotigel > >> To: The SEL email discussion list > >> > >> Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:48:22 +0000 > >> > >>> I'm sure that most of you have, by now, have heard the Barack Obama > >>> quote to the effect that in these times of trouble we (the poor in > >>> rural America) turn to our religion, our guns and our old iron for > >>> comfort. Given his statement I believe that the following is NOT off > >>> topic! > >>> > >>> Yesterdays efforts were a real success. I was hoping for 11.5%--but > >>> I'll settle for 10! Read the article and then be sure to view the > >>>video! > >>> > >>> See: > >>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15960382/detail.html > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> PS, I'm told the article was read by RUSH today on his show! > >>> PPS, Life is good! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SEL mailing list > >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date: 4/24/2008 7:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date: 4/24/2008 7:24 AM From johnculp at btes.tv Thu Apr 24 18:10:57 2008 From: johnculp at btes.tv (John Culp) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:10:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] NOT Off Topic! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1261b8ca8c2325d22f0ecbd73b8126e4@btes.tv> Congratulations, Dave, for coming out of the closet as a registered Democrat. I know that took a lot of courage. ;-) John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 24 20:29:49 2008 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:29:49 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Lest we forget In-Reply-To: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> References: <000301c8a65a$cd651380$0200a8c0@altech> Message-ID: <4811502D.2080103@optusnet.com.au> Peter Lowe wrote: > To all those who were lost at war > To all those who survived > To all their families > > LEST WE FORGET === Well said, Peter. I have just returned from a 20 mile ride (each way)on my 1950 MAC Velo to an Anzac Service and parade at the old Midland Railway Workshops, where we have our Machinery Preservation Club clubrooms. The Club organises this for the local community, and puts on refreshments after. It was very well attended. JW? === From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Fri Apr 25 01:53:30 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:53:30 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test Message-ID: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> test From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri Apr 25 02:06:19 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:06:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> Message-ID: <20080425090618.YGUI14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Coming through loud and clear Cam. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html -----Original Message----- test From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Apr 25 03:56:29 2008 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:56:29 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Some Galloway History Message-ID: Here's some nice history if you're a Gal Fan...read description: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320243999971 RickinMt. PS: Usual Disclaimer From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Apr 25 04:22:12 2008 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:22:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> References: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080425212115.02274818@ncable.com.au> Sorry to have to inform you Cam, But you test came through positive! Better sell up mate! Russ At 06:53 PM 25/04/2008, you wrote: >test > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Apr 25 06:03:28 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> References: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> Message-ID: <2145.165.206.180.192.1209128608.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> What? > test > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Apr 25 06:03:57 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <20080425090618.YGUI14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080425090618.YGUI14647.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <2153.165.206.180.192.1209128637.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Funny, I didn't hear anything, I had to read mine....... > Coming through loud and clear Cam. > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > -----Original Message----- > > test > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sat Apr 26 07:41:16 2008 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:41:16 +0800 Subject: [SEL] woodsaw References: Message-ID: <000d01c8a7ab$9ac83f40$0301a8c0@acer8ff47bfe9a> Tom.....I run two computors that are supposed to recieve all mail .It gets confusing somtimes.Anyway going back through past mail I saw the request below.I have a mate just around the corner who amongst his collection has a device that lifets the rear axel so that the flat belt arrangement could be used .It is like the type of jacks they use in the fast pit stop for GPs . You have probably obtained what you wanted by now but if you so desire I can send a pic ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: [SEL] woodsaw >I am looking for a photograph/ad for a wheel driven wood saw for Ford Model > T's. The wood saw structure had a set of V-blocks that the car axle set > on > which positioned the rear wheels to drive 2 flat pulleys that in turn > powered a > belt pulley to the wood saw. I have received a call about one that I am > going > to see this weekend. It supposedly is all original and in excellent > condition. > > Thanks, > > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > Germoamer at aol.com > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 20:27:36 2008 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Onan Generator comes home In-Reply-To: <6f6025160804170151p557a75b7se21d2b16a9b5033b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <903901.99928.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the pictures. Just last Saturday at a huge auction I saw a genny just like that one sell. WELL,,,,, It would be just like that one,,,,, If it had all it's parts. Yup, Crank it up to 1800 RPM and it will give you 60HZ power. To get a 3KW 1800 RPM genny I would have grabbed that one if the ignition parts were there. It was missing some of the controls and all the exhaust parts too. It went for sixty five bucks. I wonder if the guy knew what he was buying. I am sick of listening to all the 3600 RPM generators at engine shows. I am thinking about finding some kind of 1 to 4 tranny so I could run a 3600 RPM genny from a 900 RPM car engine. I could make that engine run very quietly. 8>)) --- Listerdiesel wrote: > We bought a rather nice little Onan W3S water-cooled genny set last > week, looks in very nice condition and was on a really substantial > 6-wheeled skid/trolley. $US 165.00 approx. > > Picked it up yesterday from a farm outside Stafford, took a few pic's: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red1.jpg > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red2.jpg > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red3.jpg > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Onan/OnanW2Red4.jpg > > "Red" in the filename is for "Reduced Size", not the colour of the Onan :-)) > > Needs a starting handle (but it also has electric start) and that > pattern on the head is welding of a frosted area. If anyone has a > starting handle spare, or can loan one for a pattern, let me know > please? > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 26 18:34:53 2008 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (cameron grundy) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:34:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] test In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20080425212115.02274818@ncable.com.au> References: <007d01c8a6b1$d66a1dc0$833e5940$@com.au> <7.0.1.0.1.20080425212115.02274818@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <000001c8a806$e4cc6610$ae653230$@com.au> Thanks boys, much appreciated. Cheers Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:22 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] test Sorry to have to inform you Cam, But you test came through positive! Better sell up mate! Russ At 06:53 PM 25/04/2008, you wrote: >test > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheel at netconnect.com.au Sun Apr 27 04:31:28 2008 From: flywheel at netconnect.com.au (Mark Kennedy) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:31:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> Message-ID: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Hello, I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my nose/lungs!). Thanks! Regards, Mark Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Apr 27 04:55:15 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:55:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <3960F9B2-59FF-4313-93CA-368CF83195A2@alltel.net> Hi Mark, Soak them overnight in kerosene, then wipe the grease off, or simply soak them overnight in kerosene and the proper amount of Gunk (follow the directions on the Gunk can) and the next morning hose the grease off the spanners. Dave On Apr 27, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Mark Kennedy wrote: > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my > nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > Mark Kennedy > Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > > 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian > Railways' > > All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > *********************************************************** > Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before > opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. > Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the > negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly > from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to > resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions > expressed are those of the individual sender. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 27 05:31:39 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:31:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] woodsaw Message-ID: In a message dated 4/25/2008 7:36:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, jopeter at omninet.net.au writes: I have a mate just around the corner who amongst his collection has a device that lifets the rear axel so that the flat belt arrangement could be used . That is how the one I looked at works. Very interesting device. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From oiseming at moscow.com Sun Apr 27 06:59:22 2008 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:59:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a low setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic de-rusting tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kennedy Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:31 AM To: The SEL email discussion list; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners Hello, I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my nose/lungs!). Thanks! Regards, Mark Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ From kosh at ncweb.com Sun Apr 27 07:12:52 2008 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:12:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20080427101220.042fe520@ncweb.com> Long time since I've heard the term SWMBO! LOL! Dave At 09:59 AM 4/27/2008, you wrote: >One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is >away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher >detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a low >setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. > >Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic de-rusting >tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to >lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. > >Orrin > >Orrin Iseminger >Colton, Washington, USA >http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm >So many projects. So little time. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kennedy >Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:31 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list; The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > >Hello, > >I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated >grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely >(ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my >nose/lungs!). > >Thanks! > >Regards, > >Mark >Mark Kennedy >Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > >Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. >http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > >'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' > >All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org From kimmell at verizon.net Sun Apr 27 07:21:25 2008 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:21:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <0JZZ00I96MDTVC95@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> I use the same process often, but to prevent marital stress I use my old Coleman camp stove. -Tony At 08:59 AM 4/27/2008, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is >away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher >detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a low >setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. > >Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic de-rusting >tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to >lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 27 08:07:19 2008 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:07:19 EDT Subject: [SEL] Famous help Message-ID: Anyone have a good method of removing the tapered pins that hold the fuel butterfly to the shaft on a throttle Famous. Of course you cannot get to the back of the pins to drive them out, and the butterfly is down in the hole so can only grip them with vicegrips to pull out. Have heated/cooled thru several cycles to aid in breaking them loose. The are very small pins, so only have one or two good changes for removing them without breaking. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germaoamer at AOL.com **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From shop at cccomm.net Sun Apr 27 09:33:53 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:33:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? Dave From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Apr 27 17:21:48 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:21:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: Hi Dave, A rooster IS a chicken, therefore your use of the term "or" is inappropriate in this case. Dave PS, A female chicken is a hen! PPS, It's easy to tell the difference between a rooster and a hen. PPPS, A hen lays eggs. PPPPS, A rooster does not lay eggs. PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds as well. PPPPPPS, The same is true for the term "hen." PPPPPPPS, Hope to see you at the Portland ATIS dinner and Charity Auction! On Apr 27, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Dave Ernst wrote: > Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to > resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. > > Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? > > Dave From stevebarr at ameritech.net Sun Apr 27 18:03:38 2008 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <631229.94771.qm@web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave Contact Bob Ronning. He has 2 sizes of the Jacob Haish Decal. His email is robron32 at juno.com He also has both sizes of the Sandwich decal for those looking. His friend makes them in Waterman, IL as Vinyl Cutouts/Screen Print. What size is your Chanticleer? I now have 3 Appletons...3, 4, and 6hp. There is a nice web site put up by a friend in DeKalb,IL dedicated to Jacob Haish built engines: http://www.jacobhaishmfg.org/ Steve --- Dave Ernst wrote: Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? Dave From wilson at stny.rr.com Sun Apr 27 18:10:03 2008 From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:10:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 4 cylinder Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <5B28DE5BB66744E8ACDE6A1200AA1ECB@KerryPC> Message-ID: I am cleaning out a bunch of junk. The junk includes a 4 cylinder Wisconsin engine. It is in sad shape - not even sure if it turns over. Anyone who would like to come get it, can have it free. After I pick it out of from the other side of the iron, I'll see if it turns over, and take some pictures. Glenn Wilson Endicott, NY From Frank at lbpinc.com Sun Apr 27 18:15:25 2008 From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:15:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Advise on Pelton Air Compressor Message-ID: <20080428011626.546BD57EA1@gw1.nlenet.net> I have picked up a Pelton Air Compressor It works fine, I have cleaned it up and lubed it and it is ready for the shows. It looks like this one on Ebay 170211491858 My questions, what sort of maintenance does it need? The piston looks like it has grease in it, is that part of how it seals? Does anyone have a manual? How does the one way valve work? Thanks. BTW I think it will be fun at shows, Open crank, flat belt, and a neat noise. Frank Frank DeWitt Light plant WEB page http://www.oldengine.org/members/frank Mechanical Design mailto:frank at lbpinc.com LBP INC. Phone: 585 624 3052 2365 Cox Rd. Fax 585 624 1038 Bloomfield NY 14469 Web http://www.lbpinc.com From skipl130 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 18:38:14 2008 From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 4 cylinder Wisconsin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <555413.56217.qm@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi Glenn, can you contact me off list? thanks, skip Glenn Wilson wrote: I am cleaning out a bunch of junk. The junk includes a 4 cylinder Wisconsin engine. It is in sad shape - not even sure if it turns over. Anyone who would like to come get it, can have it free. After I pick it out of from the other side of the iron, I'll see if it turns over, and take some pictures. Glenn Wilson Endicott, NY _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Apr 27 19:06:41 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:06:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:21 PM, David Rotigel wrote: > > PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds > as well. Dave, Is a male turkey called a rooster? From enginepaul at gmail.com Sun Apr 27 21:31:56 2008 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:31:56 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0804272131r65a88594n72cbb0163cd7001e@mail.gmail.com> Why does a city boy have to answer this? When referring to chickens, which are poultry, you will find that a male is a cock and a female is a hen when they are mature. ( Grandpa had a farm in Brownsville, PA.) Paul, Still straight in SanFran From old_iron at msn.com Sun Apr 27 22:04:53 2008 From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:04:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! In-Reply-To: <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> <463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is also a hotel/casino very near to the show grounds also. Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:12 -0700> From: stevebarr at ameritech.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August!> > George> > Here is a link to the map page on the club's web site.> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/maps.htm> > You can then click on the yahoo maps link to view a map of the area.> > Steve> > --- "Best, George" wrote:> > > Curt,> > > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for> > this show?> > > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out and could be at> > Baraboo on Saturday.> > > > George> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of> > cgandree at mchsi.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM> > To: The SEL email discussion list> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August!> > > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show the week before.> > SEL > > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year.> > Curt Andree> > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the> > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and> > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient> > or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are> > hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly> > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please> > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any> > attachments from your system.> > > > _______________________________________________> > SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plb at iinet.net.au Sun Apr 27 22:05:56 2008 From: plb at iinet.net.au (Ray And Erica Freeman) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:05:56 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine In-Reply-To: References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <004a01c8a8ed$8ad77270$a0865750$@net.au> Thanks for this important information. In light of this ground breaking exposition can you fill us in as to what a chook is and whether or not its an egg laying critter? Ray Freeman -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 8:22 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine Hi Dave, A rooster IS a chicken, therefore your use of the term "or" is inappropriate in this case. Dave PS, A female chicken is a hen! PPS, It's easy to tell the difference between a rooster and a hen. PPPS, A hen lays eggs. PPPPS, A rooster does not lay eggs. PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds as well. PPPPPPS, The same is true for the term "hen." PPPPPPPS, Hope to see you at the Portland ATIS dinner and Charity Auction! On Apr 27, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Dave Ernst wrote: > Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to > resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. > > Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? > > Dave _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun Apr 27 23:57:17 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:57:17 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show in August! References: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E640105906A94F49@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com><463384.42543.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002001c8a8fd$4a123a80$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> As Peg and I found out! (Ha! Now work on that one!) Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J Pfeiffer Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August! > > There is also a hotel/casino very near to the show grounds also. > > Peg Pfeiffer> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:12 -0700> From: > stevebarr at ameritech.net> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Subject: Re: > [SEL] Portland show in August!> > George> > Here is a link to the map page > on the club's web site.> > http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/maps.htm> > > You can then click on the yahoo maps link to view a map of the area.> > > Steve> > --- "Best, George" wrote:> > > Curt,> > > > > Where is the Baraboo show grounds? What motels do people stay at for> > > this show?> > > > We're thinking of maybe taking a Friday night flight out > and could be at> > Baraboo on Saturday.> > > > George> > > > -----Original > Message-----> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com> > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of> > > cgandree at mchsi.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:32 AM> > To: The > SEL email discussion list> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show in August!> > > > > Hey George your welcome to join us at the Baraboo Show th! > e week before.> > SEL > > seems to be getting a bigger crowd each year.> > > Curt Andree> > > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended > only for the use of the> > addressee and may contain information that is > privileged and> > confidential. 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If you have received this > communication in error, please> > notify us immediately by e-mail and > delete the message and any> > attachments from your system.> > > > > _______________________________________________> > SEL mailing list> > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel> > > > > _______________________________________________> SEL mailing list> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From michael.y at ozemail.com.au Mon Apr 28 02:55:01 2008 From: michael.y at ozemail.com.au (Michael Young) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:55:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Aussie auction results anyone? Message-ID: For the aussies, did anyone make it to the auction last Wednesday 23rd down Albury way? Be interesting to know what the 4 australs fetched. Michael Young 5 Beech Cr Orange NSW 2800 Australia From michael.y at ozemail.com.au Mon Apr 28 03:02:48 2008 From: michael.y at ozemail.com.au (Michael Young) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:02:48 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <1DEDEFF4C5E24610A5D2BFFE75689957@Young0208> Mark, my fav degreaser is CT18 which I get from supa cheap auto. Do not wash your face or hands in it and you'll be OK. If you want a real nasty degreaser, then "Draino" is great or oven cleaner. Mike Orange ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kennedy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my > nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > Mark Kennedy > Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > > 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' > > All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > *********************************************************** > Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before > opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. > Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the > negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly > from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to > resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions > expressed are those of the individual sender. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Apr 28 03:35:56 2008 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:35:56 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford Message-ID: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> It is a bit quiet around here at the moment. As a bit of a change from engines I took out my 1928 Model A Ford to the National Rally at Bathurst on the weekend before last. This year marks 80 years of the Model A and there were around 200 cars at the rally. I did manage to sneak in a few looks at engines along the way ;) Here is my partner Ann and I with my car: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0804210020.JPG Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Apr 28 05:02:12 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <1DEDEFF4C5E24610A5D2BFFE75689957@Young0208> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <1DEDEFF4C5E24610A5D2BFFE75689957@Young0208> Message-ID: <3042.165.206.180.192.1209384132.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I just toss stuff into my solvent tank, which has mineral spirits for solvent. Just like I toss any of my engine, car or tractor parts............ Bill > Mark, my fav degreaser is CT18 which I get from supa cheap auto. Do not > wash your face or hands in it and you'll be OK. If you want a real nasty > degreaser, then "Draino" is great or oven cleaner. > > Mike > Orange > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Kennedy" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; > "The > SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:31 PM > Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > > >> Hello, >> >> I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated >> grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely >> (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my >> nose/lungs!). >> >> Thanks! >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark >> Mark Kennedy >> Ballarat, Victoria, Australia >> >> Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy >> >> 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' >> >> All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ >> >> *********************************************************** >> Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If >> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before >> opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. >> Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the >> negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly >> from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to >> resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions >> expressed are those of the individual sender. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Apr 28 05:06:00 2008 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200804271359.m3RDxTuf052045@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <3075.165.206.180.192.1209384360.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Yes, like I clean rusty, greasy engine and car parts. http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp It can be done on a large scale or with multiple pieces. Bill > One of my favorite ways of removing caked grease is to wait until SWMBO is > away, then take a large tin can, dump in a generous helping of dishwasher > detergent, put in the item to be cleaned, then set it on the stove on a > low > setting. The elevated temperature tends to soften the grease. > > Another way is to put the part to be cleaned in the electrolytic > de-rusting > tank. The washing soda, lye and electrical current all contribute to > lifting off the grease, dirt and corrosion. > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kennedy > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:31 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list; The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners > > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my > nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > Mark Kennedy > Ballarat, Victoria, Australia > > Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy > > 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' > > All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Mon Apr 28 05:11:16 2008 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:11:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cleaning old spanners In-Reply-To: <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> Message-ID: <4815BEE4.9050409@steamengine.com.au> You're lucky mate - most of us only have the one spanner to keep clean :). Use your parts washer! Paul Mark Kennedy wrote: > Hello, > > I am in search of good ideas on how to remove years of accumulated > grease from a large number of spanners simply, quickly and safely > (ie: without losing the skin off my hands or the lining from my nose/lungs!). > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Mark > From shop at cccomm.net Mon Apr 28 06:01:46 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:01:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com><001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl><20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au><007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> Message-ID: <00e301c8a930$04233640$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" PPPPPPS, The same is true for the term "hen." You forgot peacock-----peahen------ PPPPPPPS, Hope to see you at the Portland ATIS dinner and Charity Auction! Nope, sorry because the location is on the WRONG side of the Mississippi!!!!!!! Dave From rotigel at alltel.net Mon Apr 28 09:31:28 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:31:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine/now turkeys In-Reply-To: <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> On Apr 27, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:21 PM, David Rotigel wrote: >> >> PPPPPS, The term "rooster" is often used to refer to other male birds >> as well. > > Dave, > Is a male turkey called a rooster? Rob, "Often" is the operative term in this context! Dave PS, On the other hand, if it's your turkey you can call it anything you want. From shop at cccomm.net Mon Apr 28 12:45:59 2008 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:45:59 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine References: <631229.94771.qm@web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010701c8a968$7b668b70$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> I don't own this engine, just posted the question for a friend whom purchased it last week in Tulare, Ca. I'll be sure he gets this info, Thanks Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine Dave Contact Bob Ronning. He has 2 sizes of the Jacob Haish Decal. His email is robron32 at juno.com He also has both sizes of the Sandwich decal for those looking. His friend makes them in Waterman, IL as Vinyl Cutouts/Screen Print. What size is your Chanticleer? I now have 3 Appletons...3, 4, and 6hp. There is a nice web site put up by a friend in DeKalb,IL dedicated to Jacob Haish built engines: http://www.jacobhaishmfg.org/ Steve --- Dave Ernst wrote: Any one know where to get a decal for this engine? The BYB shows it to resemble a chicken or rooster. As usual the tag is missing. Any other information available? Did Rock Island buy them out? Dave _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 28 16:04:28 2008 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:04:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] IH Pump Jack In-Reply-To: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20080428185656.034bb7f0@pop3.wcoil.com> Theres still a few odds n ends around here. I found this Saturday at a farm auction near Tiffin Ohio. Wish the rest of it was there but better part of it then none of it. Mark http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/ihpj1.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/ihpj2.jpg Mark & Christine Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Email: Frappi at wcoil.com Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts. Parts lists available on request. Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206 No Sunday calls if possible. I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old. Mark From nancydick at pennswoods.net Mon Apr 28 19:16:34 2008 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:16:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford In-Reply-To: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> References: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <20080428231700.A9C0F229D0D@md5.pennswoods.net> Patrick you need to shine up that trailer some. You can't drive around a great looking lady and great old car on that. 8-) R Fink At 08:35 PM 4/28/2008 +1000, you wrote: >It is a bit quiet around here at the moment. >As a bit of a change from engines I took out my 1928 Model A Ford to the >National Rally at Bathurst on the weekend before last. This year marks 80 >years of the Model A and there were around 200 cars at the rally. I did >manage to sneak in a few looks at engines along the way ;) >Here is my partner Ann and I with my car: >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0804210020.JPG > > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: >4/28/2008 7:18 AM > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: >4/28/2008 7:18 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1401 - Release Date: 4/28/2008 7:18 AM From rskinner at rustyiron.com Mon Apr 28 16:48:28 2008 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:48:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine/now turkeys In-Reply-To: <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> Message-ID: <0F2283F8-F399-4469-991E-8E8A27F41F75@rustyiron.com> On Apr 28, 2008, at 9:31 AM, David Rotigel wrote: > > PS, On the other hand, if it's your turkey you can call it anything > you want. I suppose you could call a turkey anything you want, Dave. Do you have turkeys in Pennsylvania? Can you tell the difference between the voice of a hen turkey and your so-called rooster turkey? From rotigel at alltel.net Mon Apr 28 17:21:32 2008 From: rotigel at alltel.net (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:21:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Chanticleer Engine/now turkeys In-Reply-To: <0F2283F8-F399-4469-991E-8E8A27F41F75@rustyiron.com> References: <517362.46486.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com><47F569FE.6090904@scrtc.com> <001d01c89762$d30e7b70$0302a8c0@Carl> <20080427113130.C7C3EE31C9@mail05.chariot.net.au> <007301c8a884$7b542280$6701a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427> <4D7F6271-A00D-4156-AF8C-9233E967694A@rustyiron.com> <9D122EE0-77E9-421A-953B-600B6F5230FB@alltel.net> <0F2283F8-F399-4469-991E-8E8A27F41F75@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 9:31 AM, David Rotigel wrote: >> >> PS, On the other hand, if it's your turkey you can call it anything >> you want. > > I suppose you could call a turkey anything you want, Dave. Do you > have turkeys in Pennsylvania? Yes > Can you tell the difference between the > voice of a hen turkey and your so-called rooster turkey? Yes Dave From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Apr 28 18:35:48 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:35:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford References: <20080428103547.TMIM1196.nschwotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000601c8a999$59f29660$726f4b47@mikecomp> What a beauty! And the car is excellent too. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: [SEL] OT: Model A Ford > It is a bit quiet around here at the moment. > As a bit of a change from engines I took out my 1928 Model A Ford to the > National Rally at Bathurst on the weekend before last. This year marks 80 > years of the Model A and there were around 200 cars at the rally. I did > manage to sneak in a few looks at engines along the way ;) > Here is my partner Ann and I with my car: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Misc/0804210020.JPG > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Tue Apr 29 17:54:45 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:54:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New toy Message-ID: <20080429205445.92BW7.141727.root@fepweb06> I've always said that my lathe wasn't my limiting factor, now more so than ever. I found a "new" lathe. It's a Wade 8A Precision Lathe, probably manufactured in the early 50's. This model was produced from 1919 to 1959, they made 850 in 40 years, mine is # 569. It's variable speed with a tach, 0-2000rpms, came with a set of round collets from 1/32 to 1". I want to get an operators manual, but I have to catch my breath first, wasn't the best time to buy this but I didn't want to miss it. Pictures of the lathe should be at the site below. http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-022S-1.jpg http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-021S-1.jpg http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-020S-2.jpg Here's a site that talks a little about it. http://www.lathes.co.uk/wade/page12.html J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Apr 30 02:28:43 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New toy References: <20080429205445.92BW7.141727.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <00f301c8aaa4$d799abb0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> >From where I stand, that is one NICE toy!!! Man, ya gotta be on top of the world having that in your playroom. I am jealous!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: [SEL] New toy > I've always said that my lathe wasn't my limiting factor, now more so than > ever. I found a "new" lathe. It's a Wade 8A Precision Lathe, probably > manufactured in the early 50's. This model was produced from 1919 to 1959, > they made 850 in 40 years, mine is # 569. It's variable speed with a tach, > 0-2000rpms, came with a set of round collets from 1/32 to 1". I want to > get an operators manual, but I have to catch my breath first, wasn't the > best time to buy this but I didn't want to miss it. Pictures of the lathe > should be at the site below. > > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-022S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-021S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-020S-2.jpg > > Here's a site that talks a little about it. > > http://www.lathes.co.uk/wade/page12.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Apr 30 03:46:30 2008 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:46:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New toy References: <20080429205445.92BW7.141727.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <003c01c8aaaf$73518460$726f4b47@mikecomp> Can't wait to see what comes out of the shop now! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [SEL] New toy > I've always said that my lathe wasn't my limiting factor, now more so than > ever. I found a "new" lathe. It's a Wade 8A Precision Lathe, probably > manufactured in the early 50's. This model was produced from 1919 to 1959, > they made 850 in 40 years, mine is # 569. It's variable speed with a tach, > 0-2000rpms, came with a set of round collets from 1/32 to 1". I want to > get an operators manual, but I have to catch my breath first, wasn't the > best time to buy this but I didn't want to miss it. Pictures of the lathe > should be at the site below. > > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-022S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-021S-1.jpg > http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jbcast/?action=view¤t=MVC-020S-2.jpg > > Here's a site that talks a little about it. > > http://www.lathes.co.uk/wade/page12.html > > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Wed Apr 30 18:23:43 2008 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:23:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New toy In-Reply-To: <014801c8ab20$3b6f9250$7501a8c0@LapTop> Message-ID: <20080430212343.FN048.446859.root@fepweb15> ---- R & M Ingold wrote: > >From where I stand, that is one NICE toy!!! Man, ya gotta be on top of the > world having that in your playroom. > I am jealous!! > Reg & Marg Ingold. If it meets Reg's approval, I guess I did OK. I'm working on my playroom, a 3400 sq ft metal building. It was given to me by one of the local chemical companies, just had to take it down and move it. It's almost finished, insulated and 3 phase power. It came with pallet racks and shelving. ---- Mike Royster wrote: > Can't wait to see what comes out of the shop now!< Mike, I've been busy in the shop, my biggest problem is my inability to say no. Working on pouring rod bearings for a 33 Pontiac straight eight. Have the jigs made, need to prep the rods and pour. Told him I'd try one and see if he's satisfied, if so I'll do the rest. ---- ArthurDeana Southwell wrote: > J.B., > That's a good looking lathe. Enjoy! > > Will you be going to Portland this year? > > C'ya, > Art I think It'll be fun Art. We're planning to make the round, Mystic, CT the week befroe then on to Portland. Fuel prices may alter this type of trip in the future. I'm thinking about an alluminum trailer, my gooseneck weighs 4000lbws empty We're going to Calvert, MD next week. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Apr 30 19:26:25 2008 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:26:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New toy References: <20080430212343.FN048.446859.root@fepweb15> Message-ID: <002701c8ab32$c531d130$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> You are right about the costs. I paid for my flights a few weeks back. Already, I would be up for many hundreds of $$ if I wanted to buy the seats now. Age and increased prices have put me where I didnt want to be. At the wallet's lining!! Over here, the attendance at shows is dropping. Both by the public and exhibitors. Soon enough we will be back to the days of a few playing together in small local groups. It was good while it lasted. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ---- ArthurDeana Southwell wrote: >> J.B., >> That's a good looking lathe. Enjoy! >> >> Will you be going to Portland this year? >> >> C'ya, >> Art > > I think It'll be fun Art. We're planning to make the round, Mystic, CT the > week befroe then on to Portland. Fuel prices may alter this type of trip > in the future. I'm thinking about an alluminum trailer, my gooseneck > weighs 4000lbws empty We're going to Calvert, MD next week. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA >