[SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!

tamatea whanau brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz
Wed Sep 26 19:33:01 PDT 2007


I am not 100% convinced that subsidies are the answer in these discussions
dont get me wrong i am all for supporting the people that are producing a
product rather than making a living off trading off shares  as at the end of
it it doesnt help the economy during the 70s here the pin was pulled on
farming subsidies at the time it caused alot of illwill from farmers some
went out of business overall though many had to review how to make the
business pay and be sustainable it was no longer a lifestyle choice it was
running an efficient business i think that in the long run it has paid off
cannot rely on handouts from the government because at some stage they will
turn the tap off when the economy gets squeezed with the interest in ethanol
it will mean better prices for the producers of cereals which i am in favor
of rather than subsidies. Better to be in charge of your own destiny why be
dependent on the government   brent nz

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Tony & Jackie
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!


At 03:30 PM 9/25/2007, you wrote:
>G'Day Arnie
>
>wrong, the other "fact" is that you need to buy less
>from the towel heads, screw them help your farmers
>first
>
>Kerry

That's the MOST IMPORTANT fact in my mind.  Ethanol isn't going to
help since not all cars can run on it and the ones that can use it
loose 15-20% of their fuel mileage since it has less BTU's per gallon.

Now, biodiesel is the one worth supporting, although the morons over
here in the US have been scared away from diesels ever since GM
brought out the 350 diesel bomb back in 1977.  Biodiesel can be run
in ANY engine, and no modifications need to be made (might need to
replace fuel lines in really old cars).  Most diesels will run BETTER
on bio than they do on regular diesel.  The raw material for making
bio (vegetable oil) is also in ready supply.  We already make
millions of gallons of it each year for frying and cooking, and that
oil is thrown out or recycled after it's used.  Why not recycle it
into biodiesel?

I fully support biodiesel even though I'm in no way a GREEN
person.  I could care less about the environmental aspects of it.  If
it helps us buy less oil from the terrorists, then I'm all about it.

-Tony

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