[SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!

tamatea whanau brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz
Wed Sep 26 19:52:06 PDT 2007


There has to be a way that is a win win for both parties the farmer gets
paid little for what he produces and the consumer pays high prices for the
processed goods ie buying steak at the supermarket the ones raking the
profits are the middlemen the buyers of the produce and the processors that
put it in pretty packets???
Here in New Zealand  a farmer gets paid 2.50 per kg  once processed at the
supermarket the consumer pays 15.99 per kg big difference.

 I always wondered why farmers in an area didnt run there own business from
producing processing and selling the only way to even the profits is to
control the supply chain  maybe as a coop or another option is to supply
niche markets on specific produce on a smaller scale or maybe a partnership
arrangement with a farmer and a local restaurant or mill not an easy answer
on that one.  brentnz




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[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!


It seems I read the Deere puts Bio-Diesel in all their new equipment. I got
something in the mail for soybean growers that  was encouraging farmers to
switch to bio-diesel.  I can't remember but they had done the research and
figured how much the price of beans would go up per bushel just if farmers
alone made the switch.

Now before some idot starts ranting about running up the price of food, you
need to understand something about the price of commodities--very little of
what the farmer gets paid is reflected on the grocercy store shelf. Example;
5-6 years ago wheat was under $3 per bushel. A bushel is roughly 60 lbs. A 1
lb loaf of bread was selling for over a $1. I guess it costs more than I
think to run semis up and down the road and to process flour. Priced buying
a combine, couple grain trucks, storage bins, dryer, drill, tractor(s),
grain wagons, sprayers, tillage tools etc.,lately? Oh yeah, you only use
this some of this stuff 2-8 weeks out of the year.

Welfare for the farmer? Give me a break! If it's that lucrative I guess
quite a few of you will be going a million bucks in debt this fall when you
start your farm. Just tell me how to get a combine that isn't older than I
am!!

John Hall

----- Original Message -----

>.
>
> Now, biodiesel is the one worth supporting, although the morons over
> here in the US have been scared away from diesels ever since GM
> brought out the 350 diesel bomb back in 1977.  Biodiesel can be run
> in ANY engine, and no modifications need to be made (might need to
> replace fuel lines in really old cars).  Most diesels will run BETTER
> on bio than they do on regular diesel.  The raw material for making
> bio (vegetable oil) is also in ready supply.  We already make
> millions of gallons of it each year for frying and cooking, and that
> oil is thrown out or recycled after it's used.  Why not recycle it
> into biodiesel?
>
> I fully support biodiesel even though I'm in no way a GREEN
> person.  I could care less about the environmental aspects of it.  If
> it helps us buy less oil from the terrorists, then I'm all about it.
>
> -Tony
>
>

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