[SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!

Wed Sep 26 12:10:34 PDT 2007

Well Dave I thought that to have those attributes was being a caring human 
being and were around long before communism.After all it is a relatively 
modern ideal.Try Christianity ,Buddhism .All have there faults.Arnie I agree 
there are much to many things that our governments hand out money for 
including propping up corrupt governments and some really non productive 
schemes but I personally don't think that encouraging an alternative fuel 
comes into that category.I live in a country that has vast natural resources 
but oil isn't one of them and we rely on imports for most of it.Any way to 
get away from this has to be OK.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!


> Hi Edd, I'm well aware of those words AND that they are simply code
> words for COMMUNISM--and I don't particularly like COMMUNISM!
> Dave
>
> On Sep 25, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Edd Payne wrote:
>
>> Not much it would seem.You keep repeating the same words.How about
>> adding
>> compassion caring and fairness but maybe your  vocabulary doesn't
>> go that
>> far
>> EDD PAYNE
>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>> Australia
>> 2852
>> Phone:0263742387
>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>> edsengns
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!
>>
>>
>>> Books, school, eat--what more is there to say?
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:16 PM, tamatea whanau wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve how are you we havent met but i saw your site a while back on
>>>> villier
>>>> moters am keen on them myself i have a collection of various motors
>>>> and
>>>> machinery your email wouldnt work when i tried to contact you
>>>> hopefully will
>>>> hear from you.The government are making it difficult but not
>>>> impossible  for
>>>> those interested here is a site on making your own bio fuels even
>>>> make your
>>>> own soap from the by products . here is a link tells you everything
>>>> type of
>>>> equipment etc and dont charge for it a good site
>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html brent nz
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Steven
>>>> N Kitto
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:25 AM
>>>> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Edd etc,
>>>>
>>>> When we lived in South Australia there were a few local farmers
>>>> playing with
>>>> the manufacture of bio diesel. They were stifled by govt regulation
>>>> and the
>>>> issue of excise. They were quoting that the average farmer could
>>>> produce
>>>> enough diesel to run their farm from around 150 acres of canola.
>>>> Some were
>>>> using the waste oil from the local fish and chip shops.
>>>>
>>>> Steve and Denise Kitto
>>>> 95 Coleyville Road
>>>> Mutdapilly  QLD   Australia 4307
>>>> Ph 07 54671541
>>>>
>>>> As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man.
>>>> Proverbs 27:19
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd
>>>> Payne
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2007 7:03
>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!
>>>>
>>>> Good on ya Kerry,I have no problem helping our own and when was a
>>>> little
>>>> help to our hard working farmers a problem.I would bet that some
>>>> who make
>>>> these comments have no hesitation in receiving government welfare
>>>> and don't
>>>> do a lick to get it!!!!.While in the US I saw a large bio diesel
>>>> plant under
>>>>
>>>> construction in Missouri and it will employ a lot of
>>>> people .There are
>>>> probably US gov subsidies  for this plant,I don't know for sure but
>>>> I do now
>>>>
>>>> one of the share  holders and he told me that  a lot of the local
>>>> farmers
>>>> have put a LOT of there own money into the plan in the form of
>>>> shares .Self
>>>> sufficiency is a plus and some down sides are inevitable but must
>>>> be set
>>>> aside.
>>>> EDD PAYNE
>>>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>>>> Australia
>>>> 2852
>>>> Phone:0263742387
>>>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>>>> edsengns
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kerry Morris" <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-
>>>> engine.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:30 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Corn-gas a BUST!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> G'Day Arnie
>>>>>
>>>>> wrong, the other "fact" is that you need to buy less
>>>>> from the towel heads, screw them help your farmers
>>>>> first
>>>>>
>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>
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