From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue May  1 13:57:38 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 16:57:38 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Starting Stover - Need Help
Message-ID: <be4.165f1d36.336903c2@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 4/30/2007 10:11:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rex002 at centurytel.net writes:

I always thought about 4 degrees BDC am I correct ?

 
Starting with a buzz coil, not going to pull any load, keep from kicking back 
on you, any where from a few degrees before to a few degrees after TDC should 
be fine
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  1 18:38:07 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:38:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
Message-ID: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?

A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?

Paul



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  1 19:26:50 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:26:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

O rings
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
> able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  1 19:39:22 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:39:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>

Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


>O rings
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  1 19:48:34 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:48:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <00e601c78c64$61dd74b0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Think sideways!  It works!!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
> 
> Paul
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
> 
> 
>>O rings
>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>
> 
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May  1 19:50:55 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 21:50:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070501215029.0e085c78@mail.alltel.net>

At 08:38 PM 5/1/2007, you wrote:
>Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
>A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
>able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
>Paul

Cork it!
         Dave 



From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Tue May  1 19:56:20 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 21:56:20 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000801c78c65$77a62070$93f1123f@D8LJ7K91>

Paul,

1/8" is too thick for oilers.  The gaskets have to be thin for the oiler to 
be assembled right  so the drip adjustment works OK.  About 1/32 is enough. 
You can get them from Starbolt or Hit & Miss all the right size and ready to 
use.

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
> able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue May  1 20:15:40 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:15:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <00e601c78c64$61dd74b0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00e601c78c64$61dd74b0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <801bc415a03383bef168cb007ba09ceb@chartertn.net>

I can't get 'em to seal when I put 'em in sideways, Reg.

John

On May 1, 2007, at 10:48 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:

> Think sideways!  It works!!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May  1 20:48:30 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:48:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
Message-ID: <20070501.235131.872.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Paul,

I use cork to make my oiler gaskets with.

I'd say it about 3/32" thick.

The smaller the bits of cork - the better.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May  2 05:00:56 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 05:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <2438.165.206.180.53.1178107256.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Yeah, thanks - will have to give them a try.
Any preference as to the diameter, thick or thin? Will they "roll inward"
when you snug things down?

Bill

> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
>
>>O rings
>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>
>
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From carl_scott at hotmail.com  Wed May  2 06:40:43 2007
From: carl_scott at hotmail.com (Carl )
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:40:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>

Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers plus
many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I dropped
my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was over.
I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible. I
visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
waste.
Carlton Scott
Lakeland, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?

Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?

A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be able
to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?

Paul

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From shop at cccomm.net  Wed May  2 07:29:24 2007
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:29:24 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <00cd01c78cc6$484fefc0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>

If you don't use the proper type o-rings the will swell after exposure to 
oil and likely slip from beneath the glass. the style to use is found in 
automatic transmission work and they will be color coded other than straight 
black.
Use Starbolt's corks or make your own as suggested.
My two bits
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


>O rings
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
>
>> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>>
>> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be
>> able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>>
>> Paul
>>
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>>
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From curt at imc-group.com  Wed May  2 08:22:18 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 11:22:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4638ACAA.9040203@imc-group.com>

Paul,
You've said you like McMaster Carr, so you might try the blended cork 
material they offer. I've been using the nitrile blend cork sheet for 
years to make oiler gaskets. McM offers a neoprene cork blend too, but 
it is not nearly as oil resistant as the nitrile blend. I use the 1/16" 
thick material, p/n 96165K32 which is a 12" x 36" sheet. You like the 
price too at $7.24. You'll do a LOT of oilers at that price and quantity!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Carl wrote:
> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers plus
> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I dropped
> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was over.
> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible. I
> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
> waste.
> Carlton Scott
> Lakeland, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be able
> to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>   



From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May  2 08:48:13 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <001201c78cbf$7ad9e150$0301a8c0@EvenBetter>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<001201c78cbf$7ad9e150$0301a8c0@EvenBetter>
Message-ID: <4030.165.206.180.53.1178120893.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

I have always gotten all of my oiler glass or gaskets from him. I think
the glass comes with gaskets, does it not? Or you can buy any mix n match
of gaskets you want. They are good ones.

Bill

> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers
> plus
> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I
> dropped
> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was
> over.
> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible.
> I
> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
> waste.
> Carlton Scott
> Lakeland, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be
> able
> to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  2 09:41:24 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:41:24 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>
	<4638ACAA.9040203@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c78cd8$b9f34160$240110ac@FAMILY>

Ok Gang I just ordered some pre-made gaskets from Hit & Miss Enterprises and 
I am going to order a sheet of the nitrile blend material that Curt 
suggested below for any future gaskets I may need.

Thanks everyone for the help, it is greatly appreciated.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Paul,
> You've said you like McMaster Carr, so you might try the blended cork
> material they offer. I've been using the nitrile blend cork sheet for
> years to make oiler gaskets. McM offers a neoprene cork blend too, but
> it is not nearly as oil resistant as the nitrile blend. I use the 1/16"
> thick material, p/n 96165K32 which is a 12" x 36" sheet. You like the
> price too at $7.24. You'll do a LOT of oilers at that price and quantity!
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found 
>> much
>> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers 
>> plus
>> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I 
>> dropped
>> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was 
>> over.
>> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible. 
>> I
>> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
>> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' 
>> made
>> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
>> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
>> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
>> waste.
>> Carlton Scott
>> Lakeland, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>
>> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>>
>> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
>> able
>> to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>
>
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From carl_scott at hotmail.com  Wed May  2 09:52:36 2007
From: carl_scott at hotmail.com (Carl )
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:52:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <4030.165.206.180.53.1178120893.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><001201c78cbf$7ad9e150$0301a8c0@EvenBetter>
	<4030.165.206.180.53.1178120893.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DAV95D53F87C5C2C0EC22AB0F3420@phx.gbl>

Not sure if Pedersen's top glass comes with gaskets...I don't remember. The
lower glass does for sure. 
http://www.enginads.com/pedersen/index.html 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
bill at antique-engines.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:48 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?

I have always gotten all of my oiler glass or gaskets from him. I think
the glass comes with gaskets, does it not? Or you can buy any mix n match
of gaskets you want. They are good ones.
Bill

> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers
> plus
> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I
> dropped
> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was
> over.
> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible.
> I
> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
> waste.
> Carlton Scott
> Lakeland, FL



From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed May  2 15:26:20 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 08:26:20 +1000
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070503082403.01b56f80@ncable.com.au>

G'day all, are there any of you Ozzies going to lake goldsmith this 
weekend? I will be traveling down over night Saturday to spend the 
day Sunday at the rally. First time that I will see it. If your going 
I could look you up and say g'day.
regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May  2 15:47:57 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:47:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<2438.165.206.180.53.1178107256.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <02bc01c78d0d$c428fbe0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

They work ok when I have had to use them.
You dont need em over tight to hold the oil in.
Another thing is if you get long ones, they can be cut and glued with 
superglue. So you can make the size you need.
There are all diameters available. I have some 1/16 long ones that get cut n 
glued as needed, along with the bigger sizes.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Yeah, thanks - will have to give them a try.
> Any preference as to the diameter, thick or thin? Will they "roll inward"
> when you snug things down?
>
> Bill
>
>> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>
>>
>>>O rings
>>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
>>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>>
>>
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From Doug.Cockram at toyota.com.au  Wed May  2 16:08:51 2007
From: Doug.Cockram at toyota.com.au (Doug.Cockram at toyota.com.au)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:08:51 -1200
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
Message-ID: <OF8D8A3DBC.182F693A-ONCA2572CF.007D5706-0C2572CF.007F26E7@toyota.com.au>

Gyda Russell
Yes I'LL be there as I have for the last 8 Years or so.
You can Find me in the Sunshine compond ( the only compound with a
traditional split log post and rail fence)
Just opposite the SUNSHINE SHED on the left as you walk in the exhibitors
gate from the main car park.
I'M not too hard to find ,
My 2 ton ENGINE RIG comprising,
1930 somthing Crossely hot bulb/ hot  tube ignition engine with orignal
10kva 3 phase  / 240v + neutral alternator attached
Is conspicuous by its presence.

Beware Goldsmith is a drug, as are old engines, once you've been there
You'll keep coming back.

Classic statement
As a Good Engine friends partener once said around the dinner table after
she had cooked a briiliant roast,
I wish I was an engine then I'd get stroked every night.

Look forward to seeing you at godly. regards doug cockram






                                                                                                                                                  
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G'day all, are there any of you Ozzies going to lake goldsmith this
weekend? I will be traveling down over night Saturday to spend the
day Sunday at the rally. First time that I will see it. If your going
I could look you up and say g'day.
regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics

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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed May  2 16:25:59 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:25:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY><2438.165.206.180.53.1178107256.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<02bc01c78d0d$c428fbe0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <001a01c78d11$3e8a4d00$6cf01fd3@Edd>

I go along with Reg.I have been  using O rings in my oilers for years and 
have had no trouble at all.I just go and buy the real cheap assortment 
kits.They are $25.00 here and have a big range of sizes and what they don't 
have I make.I also use these same O rings on my ignitors that have a round 
boss on them and they work great.I don't know what they are made from,maybe 
some real cheap material but they don't swell or burn.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> They work ok when I have had to use them.
> You dont need em over tight to hold the oil in.
> Another thing is if you get long ones, they can be cut and glued with
> superglue. So you can make the size you need.
> There are all diameters available. I have some 1/16 long ones that get cut 
> n
> glued as needed, along with the bigger sizes.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
>
>> Yeah, thanks - will have to give them a try.
>> Any preference as to the diameter, thick or thin? Will they "roll inward"
>> when you snug things down?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>>
>>>
>>>>O rings
>>>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
>>>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com  Wed May  2 18:29:53 2007
From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 11:29:53 +1000
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070503082403.01b56f80@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY137-F14912447EA2812977B1BF7BA410@phx.gbl>

G'day Russell, i will be there from friday till sunday,catch up with you 
then,I am taking the YB stover,cheers Dave


>From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: SEL <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
>Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 08:26:20 +1000
>
>G'day all, are there any of you Ozzies going to lake goldsmith this
>weekend? I will be traveling down over night Saturday to spend the
>day Sunday at the rally. First time that I will see it. If your going
>I could look you up and say g'day.
>regards Russell
>Russell Gilbert
>Sunny Sunraysia
>russell at ncable.com.au
>http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed May  2 22:16:16 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 01:16:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New Way Engine help needed.
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070503011125.03571650@pop3.wcoil.com>

If anyone can help Arthur with his questions please contact him at the 
address ARTHUR WILLIAMS  <tok at tesco.net>

 >Hello,
 >I KNOW THIS MAY BE A LONG SHOT BUT CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH A ENGINE THAT 
I AM RESTORING. IT >IS A NEW WAY CH TYPE  AND I AM LOOKING FOR A CARBURETOR 
FOR THIS ENGINE . IT IS A UPDRAUGHT >HOLY TYPE AND ALSO THE CORRECT DECALS 
FOR THE ENGINE. IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THIS >ONE . IT WILL BE MOST 
WELCOMED/APPRICIATED.
 >BEST REGARDS
 >ARTHUR WILLIAMS  <tok at tesco.net>
 >



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu May  3 02:11:03 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:11:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
In-Reply-To: <OF8D8A3DBC.182F693A-ONCA2572CF.007D5706-0C2572CF.007F26E7@toyota.com.au>
Message-ID: <20070503091058.MFRZ12803.oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Doug,
	I guess that this would be your big Crossley:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg06/lg060485.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg06/lg060483.JPG

I saw it running when I was down there in November last year :)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Gyda Russell
Yes I'LL be there as I have for the last 8 Years or so.
You can Find me in the Sunshine compond ( the only compound with a
traditional split log post and rail fence)
Just opposite the SUNSHINE SHED on the left as you walk in the exhibitors
gate from the main car park.
I'M not too hard to find ,
My 2 ton ENGINE RIG comprising,
1930 somthing Crossely hot bulb/ hot  tube ignition engine with orignal
10kva 3 phase  / 240v + neutral alternator attached
Is conspicuous by its presence.

Beware Goldsmith is a drug, as are old engines, once you've been there
You'll keep coming back.

Classic statement
As a Good Engine friends partener once said around the dinner table after
she had cooked a briiliant roast,
I wish I was an engine then I'd get stroked every night.

Look forward to seeing you at godly. regards doug cockram








From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  3 15:24:33 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:24:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Looking for Someone?
Message-ID: <004801c78dd1$d3c1e750$240110ac@FAMILY>

I just received a copy of "Working Instructions for the Petter Junior Oil Engine 1922 Model" from some engineman who lives at 

39 Dods Drive
Alton Ontario Canada
L7K OC7

There was no name, just an address and I want to thank whoever sent it to me, to my knowledge I was not expecting this but then again it is hard for me to remember what happened an hour ago if you know what I mean.

If the person who sent this to me sees this please respond to it or if someone knows some engineman who lives at this address in Canada please contact me.

Thanks,

Paul


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May  3 15:52:07 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 17:52:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Kewanee Book/Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503174239.0ddc7de8@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Today I receives the two Kawanee books that I ordered from Glenn Karch. I 
can sure recommend them to anyone who is interested in the history of 
gasoline engines and water pumping equipment from the mid 1800's until the 
demise of the company in 1954. Glenn has done a GREAT job on his newest 
book THE KEWANEE ENGINE STORY! Thanks Glenn!
	Dave
PS,  Glenn, The check is in the snail!



From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May  3 16:51:13 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 19:51:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
Message-ID: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>

Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next week.....
Curt Holland


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May  3 17:54:35 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 19:54:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
In-Reply-To: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>

At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next week.....
>Curt Holland

Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
         LY Me 



From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May  3 17:06:58 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:06:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>

Oh my, what good friends I have......sigh.
Curt

Dave Rotigel wrote:
> At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>   
>> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next week.....
>> Curt Holland
>>     
>
> Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
>          LY Me 
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>   



From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May  3 18:58:37 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:58:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
In-Reply-To: <463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
	<463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503205505.0deb8598@mail.alltel.net>

doG Damn, that was intended to go ONLY to Missy!
         Dave
PS, Curt, You have to know that I'm only kidding.
PPS, Missy, The dates you sent are fine with me. See you then!

At 07:06 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>Oh my, what good friends I have......sigh.
>Curt
>
>Dave Rotigel wrote:
> > At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
> week.....
> >> Curt Holland
> >>
> >
> > Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
> >          LY Me
> >
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Thu May  3 18:08:59 2007
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 21:08:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c78de8$ccc0b960$200c94ce@Ed>

Hi Curt,

I live about 7 miles North of Danbury, near the NY border, North of I -84. 
Out club is having a pig roast on Sunday. You would be welcome.

Ed Stoller
24 Candlewood Dr.
New Fairfield, CT  06812
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL (Oldengine.org)" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?


> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
> week.....
> Curt Holland
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Thu May  3 18:41:50 2007
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 21:41:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <00a301c78ded$63d97630$200c94ce@Ed>

Hi Curt,

I live about 7 miles North of Danbury, near the NY border, North of I -84. 
Out club is having a pig roast on Sunday. You would be welcome.

Ed Stoller
24 Candlewood Dr.
New Fairfield, CT  06812
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL (Oldengine.org)" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?


> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
> week.....
> Curt Holland
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu May  3 19:16:30 2007
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 22:16:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
	<463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <002401c78df2$3b02f4c0$336d4b47@mikecomp>

It's a looooong line.......


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?


> Oh my, what good friends I have......sigh.
> Curt
>
> Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
>>> week.....
>>> Curt Holland
>>>
>>
>> Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
>>          LY Me
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>>
>>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri May  4 02:24:03 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 11:24:03 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Another Scam ?
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         I thought you'd like to see this.
         One of our older collectors was selling his stuff off so I put a 
page and pics on my webpage so that interested people could have a look and 
mailed the address to my list of "local collectors". This was about a month 
ago.
         I got the following eMail today:
****************
From: tope fagunwa <segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: i will like to purchase this goods
To: jerrye at cyberserv.co.za
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
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X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: "Not supporting postmaster at domain"
X-Declude-Sender: segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com [68.142.207.248]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D813f01990000ae32.smd
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X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 for spam. 
"http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm"
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [3] at 02:41:52 on 04 May 2007
X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], BADWHOIS [3], NOABUSE [2], NOPOSTMASTER 
[1], FILTER-COUNTRY [0], ZEROHOUR [0]
X-Country-Chain: ISRAEL->UNITED STATES->destination
X-RCPT-TO: <jerrye at cyberserv.co.za>
X-IMail-ThreadID: 813f01990000ae32


Dear Sir,
              I am the purchasing manager of Kesobi Associate Limited here 
in Nigeria,our office is located at 2 eyo street.palm-grove Lagos,Nigeria.
              I found your address on the website,i will like to purchase 
(1954 Massey Harris 744 tractor,Southern Cross AC 5hp tank cooled,Listers 
Machine model A,Armstrong Siddeley aircooled diesel) from you.
               Fisrtly,i will like to know if those items are in good 
condition,moreover i will like to know the last price.Which i will come 
with my chief engineer to inspect those goods and to purchase it.

                I will look forwrd to hear back from you soonest.

Thanks

Temitope .S. Fagunwa
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
****************
         I think the Yahoo address is the biggest giveaway! I think I'll 
play along with this one and have some fun (don't worry, I'm not stupid).
         Maybe I should get myself a bunch of Yahoo addresses and flood his 
mailbox with offers of vintage tractors and engines from across the world 
(all fictitious of course).
         I've answered him asking for details of his "company" and a copy 
of the company registration as well as a copy of his Identification 
Document and how he proposes to pay - just to get the thing going.
         Why would someone want to fly himself and his chief engineer 
halfway across Africa from Nigeria (I have no doubt that he is nowhere near 
Nigeria) to inspect (and buy) a few "common" vintage engines whose total 
value would be a fraction of the price of air tickets? I'm also pretty sure 
that he does not have a clue as to what these engines are or what they were 
used for.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri May  4 08:59:16 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Another Scam ?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <3010.165.206.180.53.1178294356.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Yeah, purchase with a credit card, then the means they will want shipment
will allow them to divert.
Geesh, the reason these still exist/happen is that people still fall for
this.

Bill

> Hi Guys,
>          I thought you'd like to see this.
>          One of our older collectors was selling his stuff off so I put a
> page and pics on my webpage so that interested people could have a look
> and
> mailed the address to my list of "local collectors". This was about a
> month
> ago.
>          I got the following eMail today:
> ****************
> From: tope fagunwa <segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: i will like to purchase this goods
> To: jerrye at cyberserv.co.za
> X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
> X-RBL-Warning: BADWHOIS: "Inaccurate or missing WHOIS data"
> X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: "Not supporting abuse at domain"
> X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: "Not supporting postmaster at domain"
> X-Declude-Sender: segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com [68.142.207.248]
> X-Declude-Spoolname: D813f01990000ae32.smd
> X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A090202.463A80C2.0021,ss=1,fgs=0
> X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 for spam.
> "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm"
> X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [3] at 02:41:52 on 04 May 2007
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> [1], FILTER-COUNTRY [0], ZEROHOUR [0]
> X-Country-Chain: ISRAEL->UNITED STATES->destination
> X-RCPT-TO: <jerrye at cyberserv.co.za>
> X-IMail-ThreadID: 813f01990000ae32
>
>
> Dear Sir,
>               I am the purchasing manager of Kesobi Associate Limited here
> in Nigeria,our office is located at 2 eyo street.palm-grove Lagos,Nigeria.
>               I found your address on the website,i will like to purchase
> (1954 Massey Harris 744 tractor,Southern Cross AC 5hp tank cooled,Listers
> Machine model A,Armstrong Siddeley aircooled diesel) from you.
>                Fisrtly,i will like to know if those items are in good
> condition,moreover i will like to know the last price.Which i will come
> with my chief engineer to inspect those goods and to purchase it.
>
>                 I will look forwrd to hear back from you soonest.
>
> Thanks
>
> Temitope .S. Fagunwa
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> ****************
>          I think the Yahoo address is the biggest giveaway! I think I'll
> play along with this one and have some fun (don't worry, I'm not stupid).
>          Maybe I should get myself a bunch of Yahoo addresses and flood
> his
> mailbox with offers of vintage tractors and engines from across the world
> (all fictitious of course).
>          I've answered him asking for details of his "company" and a copy
> of the company registration as well as a copy of his Identification
> Document and how he proposes to pay - just to get the thing going.
>          Why would someone want to fly himself and his chief engineer
> halfway across Africa from Nigeria (I have no doubt that he is nowhere
> near
> Nigeria) to inspect (and buy) a few "common" vintage engines whose total
> value would be a fraction of the price of air tickets? I'm also pretty
> sure
> that he does not have a clue as to what these engines are or what they
> were
> used for.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
> Cell: 083 293 7191
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri May  4 12:39:31 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 21:39:31 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the lists.
         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby 
because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and 
there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the 
flywheel.
         Here is what I came up with:

<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>

         I hope it is of help to someone.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri May  4 12:57:12 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 15:57:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Kewanee engine book
In-Reply-To: <005801c7809b$d21ed270$bff7123f@D8LJ7K91>
References: <005801c7809b$d21ed270$bff7123f@D8LJ7K91>
Message-ID: <463B9018.6060603@scrtc.com>

Glenn,
    I just read Dave R's glowing report about your Kewanee book.  Like 
your others literary efforts, it sounds like a "must have".   I'll be in 
touch about how to order one.  See you and other SEL friends soon.

Tommy



>Hi to all,
>
>I have just completed one of my winter projects.  I have  made up a few copies of a new book I just published entitled "The Kewanee Engine Story".  If you are interested, contact me for more details.
>
>Glenn Karch
>Hercules Historian
>Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>  
>



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Fri May  4 15:40:04 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 08:40:04 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000801c78e9d$29743600$6cf01fd3@Edd>

Very well done Jerry and the article is well presented and easy to follow.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:39 AM
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller


> Hi Guys,
>         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the 
> lists.
>         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby
> because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
>         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and
> there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
>         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the
> flywheel.
>         Here is what I came up with:
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>
>
>         I hope it is of help to someone.
>
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
> Cell: 083 293 7191
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  4 15:58:36 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:58:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <007e01c78e9f$c0007c30$240110ac@FAMILY>

Fantastic idea Jerry and an absolute super write up with pictures. This will 
definitely be printed out and stored in a safe place for future use. Thanks 
so much for taking the time to photograph and document this for all of us to 
see and use. This should be included in an upcoming edition of the GAS 
Engine Magazine in my opinion.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller


> Hi Guys,
>         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the 
> lists.
>         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby
> because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
>         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and
> there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
>         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the
> flywheel.
>         Here is what I came up with:
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>
>
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  4 16:12:59 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:12:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00a501c78ea1$c2bb92a0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Jerry when I click on "see him" I get a message that this page cannot be 
found.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller


> Hi Guys,
>         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the 
> lists.
>         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby
> because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
>         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and
> there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
>         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the
> flywheel.
>         Here is what I came up with:
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>
>
>         I 




From rdhaskell at juno.com  Fri May  4 17:04:00 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:04:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070504.170401.2276.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
The past two days I have been working on my Blackstone engine.  The first
step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft to get it cleaned up and
to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of that effort.  Start here:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524614


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  4 17:34:29 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:34:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <20070504.170401.2276.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c78ead$253d9df0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Great pictures Ron, looks like you are coming right along. It is amazing 
that you got that flywheel off without braking some of the spokes.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress


> Hi all.
> The past two days I have been working on my Blackstone engine.  The first
> step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft to get it cleaned up and
> to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of that effort.  Start here:
>
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524614
>
>
> 



From christison at coastalnet.com  Fri May  4 18:04:13 2007
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:04:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
Message-ID: <380-220075651412973@coastalnet.com>

Jerry,

Great idea for making this tool.  I am sure a lot of folks will find
this information to be of value to them.  I have taken the liberty 
of including a link to your page in my resources page at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/resources/

Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.

Take care.

Ken Christison
www.oldiron-nut.com
www.kenskritters.com





From rdhaskell at juno.com  Fri May  4 19:01:35 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:01:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070504.190135.2276.5.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Paul.
The chain pulling on the spokes took very little effort, I could pump the
jack with out the handle.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:34:29 -0500 "Paul Maples"
<paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> writes:
> Great pictures Ron, looks like you are coming right along. It is 
> amazing 
> that you got that flywheel off without braking some of the spokes.
> 
> Paul


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sat May  5 05:12:51 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 07:12:51 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <20070504.170401.2276.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEGKFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Ron:

I don't think the factory wanted that wheel to come off!

I wonder why the keys were set at a 45 degree angle.  Is there some advantage?

"Spring Injection"?  How does that work?  Diesel?  Semi Diesel?  Oil engine?

That's gonna be a nice engine when you get finished.  

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 07:04 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; 
> stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
> 
> 
> Hi all.
> The past two days I have been working on my 
> Blackstone engine.  The first
> step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft 
> to get it cleaned up and
> to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of 
> that effort.  Start here:
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=300937
0&a=30275996&p=75524614


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0




From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Sat May  5 09:34:54 2007
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 02:04:54 +0930
Subject: [SEL] Another Scam ?
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<3010.165.206.180.53.1178294356.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c78f33$4fe96b70$6ec8a03a@chaos>

these guys are experts at scamming the scammers, 
http://www.419fun.com/baits.htm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Another Scam ?


> Yeah, purchase with a credit card, then the means they will want shipment
> will allow them to divert.
> Geesh, the reason these still exist/happen is that people still fall for
> this.
>
> Bill
>
>> Hi Guys,




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  5 10:08:29 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:08:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sherwood #1 Oiler - Need help
Message-ID: <00fb01c78f38$01705cb0$240110ac@FAMILY>

I would like to talk to anyone who has a #1 Sherwood Oiler, it is in regards to whether or not your #1 Sherwood Oiler has a check ball or not.

Thanks,

Paul



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:44:53 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:44:53 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012531.SM00320@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:58:36 -0500
>From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>Fantastic idea Jerry and an absolute super write up with pictures. This will
>definitely be printed out and stored in a safe place for future use. Thanks
>so much for taking the time to photograph and document this for all of us to
>see and use. This should be included in an upcoming edition of the GAS
>Engine Magazine in my opinion.
>Paul

Thanks for the positive reply Paul,
         It's good to know that someone would find it useful.
         I'd love to submit it to GEM but do not get the mag here (and do 
not know of anyone who does). Any suggestions as to how to go about 
submitting it?


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:32:24 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:32:24 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070505192738.00aa3bd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:12:59 -0500
>From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>
>Jerry when I click on "see him" I get a message that this page cannot be
>found.
>Paul


OOps! Sorry Paul (and others),
         All fixed up now (plus another added). I put that pic up 18 months 
ago and in this new page just typed the name from memory - I was wrong, the 
memory is not as good as it used to be :-).

Here is a direct link:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone2.JPG>
and another view:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone1.JPG>

Thanks for pointing it out.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:52:38 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012468.SM01836@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:04:00 -0700
>From: rdhaskell at juno.com
>Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com, stationary-engine at oldengine.org
>Hi all.
>The past two days I have been working on my Blackstone engine.  The first
>step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft to get it cleaned up and
>to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of that effort.  Start here:
>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524614
>Ron Haskell

Hi Ron,
         Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire your 
ingenuity and perseverance.
My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
         As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were inserted 
diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a 
"manufacturing reason" ?


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:54:31 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:54:31 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012359.SM01276@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:04:13 -0400
>From: "Ken Christison" <christison at coastalnet.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>
>Jerry,
>Great idea for making this tool.  I am sure a lot of folks will find
>this information to be of value to them.  I have taken the liberty
>of including a link to your page in my resources page at:
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/resources/
>Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.
>Take care.
>Ken Christison
>www.oldiron-nut.com

Thanks for the Cudo's Ken,
         Thanks also for the link.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 11:05:32 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 20:05:32 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012421.SM01836@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 08:40:04 +1000
>From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>
>Very well done Jerry and the article is well presented and easy to follow.
>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>Australia

Thanks Edd,
         I appreciate your reply knowing what you are capable of doing.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat May  5 14:33:21 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 14:33:21 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 Hi Jerry.
I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
they cut the key ways the way they did.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
writes:
> Hi Ron,
>          Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire 
> your 
> ingenuity and perseverance.
> My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>          As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were 
> inserted 
> diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a 
> "manufacturing reason" ?


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  5 15:43:32 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 17:43:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070505192738.00aa3bd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <013501c78f66$cffbf2a0$240110ac@FAMILY>

WOW Jerry, you done a fantastic job on restoring the engine, an absolutely 
magnificent job, thanks so much for sharing.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller


> At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:12:59 -0500
>>From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>>
>>Jerry when I click on "see him" I get a message that this page cannot be
>>found.
>>Paul
>
>
> OOps! Sorry Paul (and others),
>         All fixed up now (plus another added). I put that pic up 18 months
> ago and in this new page just typed the name from memory - I was wrong, 
> the
> memory is not as good as it used to be :-).
>
> Here is a direct link:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone2.JPG>
> and another view:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone1.JPG>
>
> Thanks for pointing it out.
> 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  5 17:06:00 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 19:06:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Skype
Message-ID: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>

I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for someone who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call now.

Thanks

Paul



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat May  5 20:13:41 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:13:41 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070505.201342.1972.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 Hi Elden.
There are a lot of things I don't know about this engine, I am not sure
what the spring injection means.  Probably it has a spring to pressurize
the fuel and not a high pressure pump.  It is to run on 

"From soon after the First World War the Carter brothers began working to
develop an improved for of fuel injection system for their engines. Their
work culminated in 1924 with the introduction of the ?Spring Injection?
mechanism. Simple in both design and operation it allowed a measured
amount of fuel to be pumped to the injection chamber at a precise moment
and for sufficient time for the fuel to be fully burnt. With close
control of fuel consumed and an ability to start from cold and to run on
practically any fuel, the company claimed the spring injection engine
could successfully challenge steam in its last stronghold, the power
station steam turbine. "
Here is a picture of the mechanism.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/blkstone/History8.htm
They were designed to run on "residual oil"  #2 Diesels will work well.
On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:12:51 -0500 "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
writes:
> Ron:
> 
> I don't think the factory wanted that wheel to come off!
> 
> I wonder why the keys were set at a 45 degree angle.  Is there some 
> advantage?
> 
> "Spring Injection"?  How does that work?  Diesel?  Semi Diesel?  Oil 
> engine?
> 
> That's gonna be a nice engine when you get finished.  
> 
> Take care - Elden
> edurand at mchsi.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 
>


From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sun May  6 01:23:27 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 04:23:27 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer
Message-ID: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>

Hi,
 
Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very 
easy to make one.
 

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU) 
 

 
Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria, Ca



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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun May  6 03:34:56 2007
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 10:34:56 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Skype
Message-ID: <050620071034.10202.463DAF50000572C6000027DA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Paul,
Trying to skype you right now and shows you off line.  Best bet is to 
completely close it down and reboot.
Curt


> I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for someone 
> who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call now.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Paul
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May  6 04:18:37 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:18:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Skype
References: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

I hope you do better with them than me.
After a lot of 'no help' from them , I gave up and dumped em.
Aint really missed it either.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: [SEL] Skype


>I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for 
>someone who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call now.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May  6 04:20:15 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:20:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Skype
References: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <001501c78fd0$856a3c50$0601a8c0@altech>

Oh come Reggy, we will talk to you, it's easy'

Pete, Oz






>I hope you do better with them than me.
> After a lot of 'no help' from them , I gave up and dumped em.
> Aint really missed it either.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:06 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Skype
>
>
>>I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for
>>someone who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call 
>>now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun May  6 06:08:21 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 08:08:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <20070505.201342.1972.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEHJFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Ron:

That was an interesting history.  Thanks for the link.  Keep us informed of progress with the Blackstone.

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:14 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
> 
> 
>  Hi Elden.
> There are a lot of things I don't know about this 
> engine, I am not sure
> what the spring injection means.  Probably it has 
> a spring to pressurize
> the fuel and not a high pressure pump.  It is to run on 
> 
> "From soon after the First World War the Carter 
> brothers began working to
> develop an improved for of fuel injection system 
> for their engines. Their
> work culminated in 1924 with the introduction of 
> the Spring Injection
> mechanism. Simple in both design and operation it 
> allowed a measured
> amount of fuel to be pumped to the injection 
> chamber at a precise moment
> and for sufficient time for the fuel to be fully 
> burnt. With close
> control of fuel consumed and an ability to start 
> from cold and to run on
> practically any fuel, the company claimed the 
> spring injection engine
> could successfully challenge steam in its last 
> stronghold, the power
> station steam turbine. "
> Here is a picture of the mechanism.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/blkstone/History8.htm
> They were designed to run on "residual oil"  #2 
> Diesels will work well.




From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun May  6 05:24:53 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 08:24:53 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <cc5.10c80e65.336f2315@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/5/2007 7:10:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
edurand at mchsi.com writes:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=300937
0&a=30275996&p=75524614

 
Ron,
 
What a challenge to get that long of keys out.  How long were they and were 
they tapered or straight?  Two in the flywheel and at 45 degrees to shaft!!!  
 
Great job.
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun May  6 09:10:37 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 11:10:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer
In-Reply-To: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070506110837.0464dab0@mail.alltel.net>

At 03:23 AM 5/6/2007, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>easy to make one.
>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>Francis  Maciel

Hi Francis, That's about neater than hell. I'm off to make one--7 links of 
chain and a 3' piece of 3/8" steel rod should about do it! THANKS!
         Dave 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun May  6 11:03:30 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 14:03:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>

That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis informed 
or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is, 
something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one 
used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from one 
of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost it 
or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using it 
in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, an 
odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir 
his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a 
drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a socket 
If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I have 
his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to the 
rod too if I remember right.
  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.

See ya all at Portland Swap!!
                                                       TTYL,    Mark

At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>easy to make one.
>
>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>
>Francis  Maciel
>Santa Maria, Ca

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 12:36:53 2007
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 15:36:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do 
is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable 
improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you 
have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent 
attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap 
somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right 
way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
Skip

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis 
> informed
> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one
> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from one
> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost 
> it
> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using 
> it
> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, an
> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir
> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a 
> socket
> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I have
> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to 
> the
> rod too if I remember right.
>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>
> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>
> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>>easy to make one.
>>
>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>
>>Francis  Maciel
>>Santa Maria, Ca
>
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>
> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
> Parts lists available on request.
>
> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell 
> Phone
> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
> possible.
> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I 
> represent
> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May  6 14:25:44 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:25:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <001001c79025$1b49f590$0601a8c0@altech>

It has a Patent Pending which is enforceable, I am still going to make one 
this morning.

Peter, Oz



>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
> is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
> improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
> have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
> attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
> somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
> way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
> Skip
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>
>
>> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
>> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis
>> informed
>> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
>> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one
>> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from 
>> one
>> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost
>> it
>> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using
>> it
>> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, an
>> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir
>> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
>> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a
>> socket
>> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I 
>> have
>> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to
>> the
>> rod too if I remember right.
>>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>>
>> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>>
>> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>>>easy to make one.
>>>
>>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>>
>>>Francis  Maciel
>>>Santa Maria, Ca
>>
>> Mark & Christine Shulaw
>> 454 Co. Rd. 33
>> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>>
>> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
>> Parts lists available on request.
>>
>> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
>> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell
>> Phone
>> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
>> possible.
>> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I
>> represent
>> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
>> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> -- 
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May  6 14:49:28 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:49:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
	<001001c79025$1b49f590$0601a8c0@altech>
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If you make it for yourself and dont try selling em, who really cares?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> It has a Patent Pending which is enforceable, I am still going to make one
> this morning.
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>> is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>> improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>> have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>> attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>> somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the 
>> right
>> way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>> Skip
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>>
>>
>>> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
>>> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis
>>> informed
>>> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
>>> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one
>>> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from
>>> one
>>> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost
>>> it
>>> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using
>>> it
>>> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, 
>>> an
>>> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir
>>> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
>>> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a
>>> socket
>>> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I
>>> have
>>> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to
>>> the
>>> rod too if I remember right.
>>>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>>>
>>> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>>>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>>>
>>> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - 
>>>>very
>>>>easy to make one.
>>>>
>>>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>>>
>>>>Francis  Maciel
>>>>Santa Maria, Ca
>>>
>>> Mark & Christine Shulaw
>>> 454 Co. Rd. 33
>>> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>>>
>>> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
>>> Parts lists available on request.
>>>
>>> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
>>> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell
>>> Phone
>>> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls 
>>> if
>>> possible.
>>> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I
>>> represent
>>> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist 
>>> and
>>> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 16:11:03 2007
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 19:11:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB><001001c79025$1b49f590$0601a8c0@altech>
	<021c01c79028$6e95a160$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
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No one.
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> If you make it for yourself and dont try selling em, who really cares?
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>
>
>> It has a Patent Pending which is enforceable, I am still going to make 
>> one
>> this morning.
>>
>> Peter, Oz
>>
>>
>>
>>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to 
>>>do
>>> is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>>> improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>>> have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive 
>>> patent
>>> attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>>> somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the
>>> right
>>> way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>>>
>>>
>>>> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
>>>> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis
>>>> informed
>>>> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
>>>> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen 
>>>> one
>>>> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from
>>>> one
>>>> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have 
>>>> lost
>>>> it
>>>> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him 
>>>> using
>>>> it
>>>> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain,
>>>> an
>>>> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to 
>>>> stir
>>>> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
>>>> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a
>>>> socket
>>>> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I
>>>> have
>>>> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to
>>>> the
>>>> rod too if I remember right.
>>>>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>>>>
>>>> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>>>>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>>>>
>>>> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer -
>>>>>very
>>>>>easy to make one.
>>>>>
>>>>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>>>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>>>>
>>>>>Francis  Maciel
>>>>>Santa Maria, Ca
>>>>
>>>> Mark & Christine Shulaw
>>>> 454 Co. Rd. 33
>>>> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>>>>
>>>> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
>>>> Parts lists available on request.
>>>>
>>>> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
>>>> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell
>>>> Phone
>>>> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls
>>>> if
>>>> possible.
>>>> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I
>>>> represent
>>>> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist
>>>> and
>>>> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
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>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>>> 9:07 AM
>>>>
>>>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun May  6 16:32:57 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 19:32:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Skip,
  Thats so true. If the patent office has nothing on file like it they will 
likely get a patent. Many times things get invented and built just for ones 
own use or for use in their shop or business and thats likely what grandpas 
was. And folks just simply never do anything other then use them. There was 
a need it was figured out how to satisify the need and that was the end of 
that. So many years later someone has the initiative to patent it as their 
idea when they do the same.  And truely they may very well have figured 
their version out themselves without ever knowing someone else already did 
it. This happens so many times.
  Patents are funny things. You can have an Iron clad patent but if you do 
not have the money to defend or enforce it then its not worth a darn.
  Their ad says
>A new Mixing device with patent pending made from 306 stainless that way 
>we can offer a life time guarantee for all kinds of products and goods 
>that need to be mixed up to perfection for applications on construction 
>sites and Home use.CURRENTLY SEEKING INVESTORS FOR THIS PROJECT.

I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark

At 03:36 PM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
>way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>Skip


Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May  6 16:38:34 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:38:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <003701c79037$a9bb8bb0$0601a8c0@altech>

> I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark


Well, at least $999,990, that is if they sell for $10, as I am making mine 
;-)))

Peter, Oz





From nadejack at optusnet.com.au  Sun May  6 18:04:37 2007
From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:04:37 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Back again
In-Reply-To: <01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <463E7B25.1000807@optusnet.com.au>

Greetings to mates old and new. Just returned after a lengthy absence.
Not much new - still got the old car and the two bikes and the 4K 
Buzacott 32 volt lighting plant, as well as various Villiers etc.

Also a few models, "Poppin", the flame gulper and a Stuart Turner 10V
steam engine set up with a 3" boiler etc.

JW?? in Oz




From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 18:30:37 2007
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:30:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <004001c79047$51382420$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

If they get enough "INVESTORS" they will ):-/
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> Hi Skip,
>  Thats so true. If the patent office has nothing on file like it they will
> likely get a patent. Many times things get invented and built just for 
> ones
> own use or for use in their shop or business and thats likely what 
> grandpas
> was. And folks just simply never do anything other then use them. There 
> was
> a need it was figured out how to satisify the need and that was the end of
> that. So many years later someone has the initiative to patent it as their
> idea when they do the same.  And truely they may very well have figured
> their version out themselves without ever knowing someone else already did
> it. This happens so many times.
>  Patents are funny things. You can have an Iron clad patent but if you do
> not have the money to defend or enforce it then its not worth a darn.
>  Their ad says
>>A new Mixing device with patent pending made from 306 stainless that way
>>we can offer a life time guarantee for all kinds of products and goods
>>that need to be mixed up to perfection for applications on construction
>>sites and Home use.CURRENTLY SEEKING INVESTORS FOR THIS PROJECT.
>
> I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark
>
> At 03:36 PM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>>is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>>improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>>have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>>attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>>somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
>>way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>>Skip
>
>
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>
> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
> Parts lists available on request.
>
> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell 
> Phone
> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
> possible.
> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I 
> represent
> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 
> 9:07 AM
>
> 



From b2 at chooka.net  Sun May  6 18:41:25 2007
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 20:41:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <004001c79047$51382420$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB><6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<004001c79047$51382420$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <03c201c79048$d372a720$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>

Like the old saying goes, when someone with experience and someone with
money join forces, the one with the money will get experience, and the one
with the experience will get money.

B?
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Skip Cleveland
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:31 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic

If they get enough "INVESTORS" they will ):-/ Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> Hi Skip,
>  Thats so true. If the patent office has nothing on file like it they will
> likely get a patent. Many times things get invented and built just for 
> ones
> own use or for use in their shop or business and thats likely what 
> grandpas
> was. And folks just simply never do anything other then use them. There 
> was
> a need it was figured out how to satisify the need and that was the end of
> that. So many years later someone has the initiative to patent it as their
> idea when they do the same.  And truely they may very well have figured
> their version out themselves without ever knowing someone else already did
> it. This happens so many times.
>  Patents are funny things. You can have an Iron clad patent but if you do
> not have the money to defend or enforce it then its not worth a darn.
>  Their ad says
>>A new Mixing device with patent pending made from 306 stainless that way
>>we can offer a life time guarantee for all kinds of products and goods
>>that need to be mixed up to perfection for applications on construction
>>sites and Home use.CURRENTLY SEEKING INVESTORS FOR THIS PROJECT.
>
> I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark
>
> At 03:36 PM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>>is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>>improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>>have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>>attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>>somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
>>way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>>Skip
>
>
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>
> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
> Parts lists available on request.
>
> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell 
> Phone
> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
> possible.
> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I 
> represent
> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 
> 9:07 AM
>
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun May  6 22:13:50 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 22:13:50 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine show pictures.
Message-ID: <20070506.221350.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.  
Yesterday our club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was asked to
participate with the Antique Truck Historical Society at their 22nd
annual antique truck show.  It was held in Riverside California at March
Field Air Museum (the former March Air Force Base)  Here are a few
pictures of our display and some shots of airplanes.  Enjoy.

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32521166&f=0

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon May  7 06:06:35 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:06:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Off Topic: Tornados in Kansas
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070507090401.0305beb0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Just wondering does anyone know if there were any engine Collectors in 
Greensburg KS.  that was affected by the Tornados?

Mark 




From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Mon May  7 06:52:36 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 23:52:36 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Engine show pictures.
References: <20070506.221350.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c790ae$f9444a60$6cf01fd3@Edd>

Nice show and great pics.Thanks for sharing.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: [SEL] Engine show pictures.


> Hi all.  
> Yesterday our club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was asked to
> participate with the Antique Truck Historical Society at their 22nd
> annual antique truck show.  It was held in Riverside California at March
> Field Air Museum (the former March Air Force Base)  Here are a few
> pictures of our display and some shots of airplanes.  Enjoy.
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32521166&f=0
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon May  7 09:10:17 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 12:10:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Off Topic: Tornados in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20070507090401.0305beb0@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20070507090401.0305beb0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <463F4F69.600@scrtc.com>

Mark,
    I was wondering the same thing.  Having lived through exactly the 
same situation 10 years ago, I know what the feelings are.  If there is, 
I'm ready to chip in to help out.  Thanks for thinking of them.

Tommy


>Just wondering does anyone know if there were any engine Collectors in 
>Greensburg KS.  that was affected by the Tornados?
>
>Mark 
>
>
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>
>
>  
>



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May  7 10:10:25 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:10:25 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070507.101026.1564.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Tom.
The keys were 8" long and not it the best of shape after they were
pulled.  The best of the two has two sides parallel, and the other two
tapered.  The V grove in the crank is narrower at the bottom than at the
top but it is hard to measure precisely.  Definitely different.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:24:53 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes:
>  
> In a message dated 5/5/2007 7:10:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> edurand at mchsi.com writes:
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=300937
> 0&a=30275996&p=75524614
> 
>  
> Ron,
>  
> What a challenge to get that long of keys out.  How long were they 
> and were 
> they tapered or straight?  Two in the flywheel and at 45 degrees to 
> shaft!!!  
>  
> Great job.
>  
>  
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com


From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon May  7 13:50:08 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:50:08 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <cfc.ef89988.3370eb00@aol.com>

Ron,
 
Sounds like they should be standard tapered keys, just put in different!  
Straight side on the shaft and taper on the flywheel just like all the others.
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon May  7 15:07:47 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 08:07:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070508075922.01b56968@ncable.com.au>

G'day all, well I .... & Dad have just done our first Lake Goldsmith 
Rally. Really worth the trip down even though we were rushed a 
little. We left home around 11.15pm and drove until 2.30am. Pulled up 
at a roadside resting place and laid the swags out for about a 4 hour 
sleep and then drove into Goldsmith at 8am. Not a great deal of 
activity until 10am but filled in times just getting our bearings on 
the layout etc and catching up with a couple of list members.  Some 
really nice gear at this place. The sheds are mostly very well 
presented and a credit to all who have put in to get them that way. 
Weather was very kind to us also. Had to leave for home just after 
3pm again in time for a late dinner.

We will make it back again sometime. Anyone who has been undecided to 
go; be ashured you will not regret making the effort.

regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May  7 17:35:39 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 17:35:39 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070507.173539.1284.2.rdhaskell@juno.com>

I don't think you saw this picture:
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524621
The keys go in a little different.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Mon, 7 May 2007 16:50:08 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes:
> Ron,
>  
> Sounds like they should be standard tapered keys, just put in 
> different!  
> Straight side on the shaft and taper on the flywheel just like all 
> the others.
>  
>  
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com


From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Mon May  7 18:49:55 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 20:49:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Greensburg, KS
Message-ID: <BAY127-F4FAED070D526A9A93A0BECB440@phx.gbl>

>>>Just wondering does anyone know if there were any engine Collectors in
Greensburg KS.  that was affected by the Tornados?

>>>Mark

If there were any engine collectors in Greensburg, they were affected.  
There is nothing left; many of the trees don't  even have bark any more.  
There is a 28,000 lb combine that was lifted up and deposited in a large 
puddle/small pond about 60 feet away.


Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway

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From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Tue May  8 11:32:48 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 13:32:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT Greensburg, KS
Message-ID: <BAY127-F35CD07A130191C48543E5DCB440@phx.gbl>

http://www.kansas.com/static/slides/050507tornadoaerials/

11, 12, and 25 are the town's water tower.

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue May  8 16:39:13 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 19:39:13 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
Message-ID: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
russell at ncable.com.au writes:

laid the swags out for about a 4 hour 
sleep 

Russel
 
So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May  8 18:18:13 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 20:18:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net>


>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
>sleep
>Russel
>
>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>Tom Schmutz

Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
         Dave 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May  8 17:34:16 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:34:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>

The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear you can buy.

http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml


Peter, Oz


> 
>>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
>>sleep
>>Russel
>>
>>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>>Tom Schmutz
> 
> Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
>         Dave 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May  8 17:42:33 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:42:33 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c791d2$ef37f510$0601a8c0@altech>

The Swag was originally a bit like a sleeping bag that rolled up and was 
carried on the back of hikers or itinerate workers walking the roads in the 
depression days.
The modern Swag is a lot more sophisticated.
http://www.jollyswags.swag.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi?id=54832202336211178670907#Bogong

http://www.brookswags.com/history.php

You see no suit-cases in the wild and wide.
Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures out 
without one. Slung over the pack pony, hanging from the camel, or thrown 
into the back of the truck, with a quart-pot dangling from the strap, they 
stand for house and home and life's achievement.
 Ernestine Hill, "The Great Australian Loneliness" Melbourne 1940.

In Australia, the traditional bedding for outdoor sleeping is the swag.
 These days it's a good quality, foam mattress inside a canvas cover that 
encloses both the bedding and sleeper. Traditionally blankets were used, but 
sleeping-bags are more practical, when it's very cold. The swag is rolled 
and fastened with straps. It's heavier and bulkier than a bivvy bag, but 
it's more comfortable and durable and is perfect for car-camping and other 
occasions when you don't have to carry it. In outback Australia's harsh 
conditions the swag's durability comes into its own.
 TIM McCARTNEY-SNAPE - World renowned climber & adventurer.

http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/L/LawsonHenry/prose/romanceofswag/romanceswag.html

Have a read and learn something.

Peter, Oz








>
> In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> russell at ncable.com.au writes:
>
> laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
> sleep
>
> Russel
>
> So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>
>
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at 
> http://www.aol.com.
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May  8 19:05:46 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:05:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net>
	<000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070508210419.0486e170@mail.alltel.net>

Damn, I would have sworn that Reg said "fine sheep." Perhaps he said "fine 
sleep."
         Dave

At 07:34 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote:
>The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear you can buy.
>
>http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>
>
>Peter, Oz
>
>
> >
> >>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
> >>sleep
> >>Russel
> >>
> >>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
> >>Tom Schmutz
> >
> > Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
> >         Dave
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  8 21:45:19 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:45:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <cfc.ef89988.3370eb00@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00ff01c791f7$bb368310$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

The only advantage I can see is a greater cross section in shear load.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress


> Ron,
>
> Sounds like they should be standard tapered keys, just put in different!
> Straight side on the shaft and taper on the flywheel just like all the 
> others.
>
>
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at 
> http://www.aol.com.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  8 23:35:03 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:35:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com><6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net><000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070508210419.0486e170@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <01ed01c79204$2e69d240$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

SHARP, VERY SHARP!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith


> Damn, I would have sworn that Reg said "fine sheep." Perhaps he said "fine
> sleep."
>         Dave
>
> At 07:34 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote:
>>The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear you can buy.
>>
>>http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>>
>>
>>Peter, Oz
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
>> >>sleep
>> >>Russel
>> >>
>> >>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>> >>Tom Schmutz
>> >
>> > Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
>> >         Dave
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> >
>>_______________________________________________
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>
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed May  9 05:12:58 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 07:12:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAELCFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

"Once a jolly Swagman camped beside a billabong,
under the shade of a koolibah tree.........."

NOW, I know what a swag is!  Now, is a billabong (sp?) a lake or something?

AND did I get the name (not to mention the spelling) of the tree right, mate?

Comes back from "Waltzing Matilda" we sang in grade school about a hundred years ago.  It's a wonder what floats, unbidden, to the surface once in a while.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 07:34 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
> 
> 
> The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear 
> you can buy.
> 
> http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
> 
> 
> Peter, Oz




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May  9 05:18:47 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:18:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAELCFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Eldrn
Try this site and read the links in the words of the song.

http://www.brookswags.com/history.php

Koolibah is actually spelt Coolabah.

Peter, Oz




> "Once a jolly Swagman camped beside a billabong,
> under the shade of a koolibah tree.........."
>
> NOW, I know what a swag is!  Now, is a billabong (sp?) a lake or 
> something?
>
> AND did I get the name (not to mention the spelling) of the tree right, 
> mate?
>
> Comes back from "Waltzing Matilda" we sang in grade school about a hundred 
> years ago.  It's a wonder what floats, unbidden, to the surface once in a 
> while.
>
> Take care - Elden
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 07:34 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
>>
>>
>> The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear
>> you can buy.
>>
>> http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>>
>>
>> Peter, Oz
>
>
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May  9 05:45:11 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAELCFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <3002.165.206.180.53.1178714711.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Rolf Harris did a good version of Waltzing Matilda where he first
explained a few terms to folks. It was funny and entertaining.

Bill
(a big fan of Rolf's)

> Hi Eldrn
> Try this site and read the links in the words of the song.
>
> http://www.brookswags.com/history.php
>
> Koolibah is actually spelt Coolabah.
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>
>> "Once a jolly Swagman camped beside a billabong,
>> under the shade of a koolibah tree.........."
>>
>> NOW, I know what a swag is!  Now, is a billabong (sp?) a lake or
>> something?
>>
>> AND did I get the name (not to mention the spelling) of the tree right,
>> mate?
>>
>> Comes back from "Waltzing Matilda" we sang in grade school about a
>> hundred
>> years ago.  It's a wonder what floats, unbidden, to the surface once in
>> a
>> while.
>>
>> Take care - Elden
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>>>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 07:34 PM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
>>>
>>>
>>> The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear
>>> you can buy.
>>>
>>> http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter, Oz
>>
>>
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed May  9 06:55:08 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:55:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOELFFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

Thanks!

Take care - Elden DuRand
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 07:19 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
> 
> 
> Hi Eldrn
> Try this site and read the links in the words of the song.
> 
> http://www.brookswags.com/history.php
> 
> Koolibah is actually spelt Coolabah.
> 
> Peter, Oz




From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed May  9 06:22:39 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:22:39 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>

bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed May  9 06:24:44 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:24:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] another Dave
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232406.01b5dc20@ncable.com.au>

Sorry guys I should go direct but misplaced Daves e-mail for the minute
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Laurel-Kerosene-Tin-Very-Old-Wooden-Advertisement_W0QQitemZ300108339632QQihZ020QQcategoryZ35682QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Wed May  9 07:56:42 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 07:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] JD Dealership in KS after the Tornado
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOELFFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <824932.46587.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just found several hundred photos of the John Deere Dealership in KS.  The
photos were taken by a truck driver who had hauled in a new combine and
was waiting until the morning to unload.  He was in the sleeper of the
semi when it hit. (the link was on another forum)

http://www.hdnews.net/photo/galleries/greensburgtrucker/index.shtml 

I am at awe every time I see the power of nature.  Having gone storm
chasing back in 1994, 95, with my college weather class and 96 with a
friend.  I now just watch and spot storms for the local town.

Steve


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Steve Barr                N9NDE            Downers Grove, IL
          http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr
                      stevebarr at ameritech.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sat May  5 16:07:03 2007
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim and Diane)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 16:07:03 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <013401c78f6a$18858f60$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>

The dual diagonal keys have a much higher shear strength and were many times 
used in situations that were bidirectional.  Probably an overkill for a 
small engine but nevertheless a first class, and quite expensive, way of 
doing the job.

Jim

Jim and Diane
Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
jd.kirkes at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress


Hi Jerry.
I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
they cut the key ways the way they did.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
writes:
> Hi Ron,
>          Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire
> your
> ingenuity and perseverance.
> My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>          As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were
> inserted
> diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a
> "manufacturing reason" ?
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed May  9 19:17:23 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 21:17:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
         Dave

At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>regards Russell



From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed May  9 18:22:35 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:22:35 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
Message-ID: <bca.f61e067.3373cddb@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
plowe at exemail.com.au writes:

Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures out 
without one

 
Peter,
 
Pretty neat camping gear!
 
Thanks,
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Wed May  9 18:40:50 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20070510014022.IXLM28769.oaamta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

The thought scares us as well Dave ;)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
         Dave





From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed May  9 20:14:31 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:14:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Indiana Swap
In-Reply-To: <824932.46587.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOELFFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<824932.46587.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070509231044.04148bf0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi All,
  I just returned a little while ago from checking things out at Portland 
swap. The grounds look to be in good shape, a bit wet as usual but good. 
And the line is starting to form in the Fairgrounds. There was 7  in line 
when I left there at 5:30

                                                    TTYL,   Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May  9 20:36:09 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:36:09 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c792b4$59749690$0601a8c0@altech>

10 packets of nicotine patches, a plane ticket and your here for the time of 
your life, come Dave, live a little mate ;-)))
I guess you are still smoking, if not there is absolutely no excuse.

Peter, Oz




> Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
>         Dave
>
> At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>>bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>regards Russell
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May  9 20:36:56 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:36:56 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
References: <bca.f61e067.3373cddb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003201c792b4$75652540$0601a8c0@altech>

>
> In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> plowe at exemail.com.au writes:
>
> Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures 
> out
> without one
>
> Peter,
>
> Pretty neat camping gear!
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Schmutz


Best you can get mate
Peter, Oz 



From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Thu May 10 03:15:52 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:15:52 +0800
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au><6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
	<002e01c792b4$59749690$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <003c01c792ec$30b51760$f301a8c0@armstrong>

Peter
Dave may not know Australia is not a state of the USA.

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] arnie and dave!


> 10 packets of nicotine patches, a plane ticket and your here for the time 
> of
> your life, come Dave, live a little mate ;-)))
> I guess you are still smoking, if not there is absolutely no excuse.
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
>>         Dave
>>
>> At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>>>bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
>>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>regards Russell
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu May 10 03:31:36 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:31:36 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070510202902.01a23b20@ncable.com.au>

Dave thats just a technocality of small proportions. Some one can 
pick it up then post it on.  tooooo easy
Russell


At 12:17 PM 10/05/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
>          Dave
>
>At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
> >bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
> >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589 
> QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >regards Russell
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Thu May 10 06:13:04 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:13:04 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
References: <bca.f61e067.3373cddb@aol.com>
	<003201c792b4$75652540$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <000d01c79304$f65f2010$6cf01fd3@Edd>

When My mate Martin and I went to Portland in1996 we took our OZ swags with 
us and got a few looks in the camp ground.At Mt Pleasant we even got people 
taking pics of the crazy Ozys and there camping gear.Before we departed the 
US we gave our swags to Joe and Lee Winter in MO and they have used them 
when they go dear hunting and say they are great.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags


> >
>> In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> plowe at exemail.com.au writes:
>>
>> Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures
>> out
>> without one
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Pretty neat camping gear!
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tom Schmutz
>
>
> Best you can get mate
> Peter, Oz
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From bboyce at swat.coop  Thu May 10 12:41:59 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
Message-ID: <000801c7933b$4694d120$5a4cfea9@bboyce>

has anyone know of a place that sells generic wear sleeves ?  the rear engine seal journal is pitted pretty bad ,,, its 4 in. in diameter and has a 5/8 in. face,,, couldnt find anything at the local machine shops,,, their advice : just get another crankshaft,,, yeah, lol,,,,
i guess j b weld is an option but i'd rather use a sleeve;;
any ideas will be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas


From bboyce at swat.coop  Thu May 10 12:50:19 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:50:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
Message-ID: <000801c7933c$70f650a0$5a4cfea9@bboyce>

disregard the previous post about the wear sleeve, i found one,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Thu May 10 12:53:04 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:53:04 -0700
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
Message-ID: <20070510.125304.536.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Bill.
I just called the local Kaman Industrial Technologies, they don't keep
them in stock but can order them.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:59 -0500 "Bill Boyce" <bboyce at swat.coop>
writes:
> has anyone know of a place that sells generic wear sleeves ?  the 
> rear engine seal journal is pitted pretty bad ,,, its 4 in. in 
> diameter and has a 5/8 in. face,,, couldnt find anything at the 
> local machine shops,,, their advice : just get another crankshaft,,, 
> yeah, lol,,,,
> i guess j b weld is an option but i'd rather use a sleeve;;
> any ideas will be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 10 14:19:42 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:19:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070510202902.01a23b20@ncable.com.au>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20070510202902.01a23b20@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070510161850.056cce00@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Russell. If that's an offer to do the leg work let me know and I'll put 
in a bid!
         Dave

At 05:31 AM 5/10/2007, you wrote:
>Dave thats just a technocality of small proportions. Some one can
>pick it up then post it on.  tooooo easy
>Russell
>
>
>At 12:17 PM 10/05/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
> >          Dave
> >
> >At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
> > >bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589
> > QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > >
> > >regards Russell
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >SEL mailing list
> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>Russell Gilbert
>Sunny Sunraysia
>russell at ncable.com.au
>http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
>_______________________________________________
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>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jdragoset at galvotec.com  Thu May 10 14:25:42 2007
From: jdragoset at galvotec.com (Jim Dragoset)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:25:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
In-Reply-To: <20070510.125304.536.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <LJENJGOEJJENFCJNAJBGEEMNGIAA.jdragoset@galvotec.com>

Bill,
Chicago Rawhide used to make them, sold as "Speedy Sleeve".
Check your local bearing supplier.
Jim Dragoset,
NOLA

-----Original Message-----
From: rdhaskell at juno.com [mailto:rdhaskell at juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:53 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] wear sleeve


Hi Bill.
I just called the local Kaman Industrial Technologies, they don't keep
them in stock but can order them.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:59 -0500 "Bill Boyce" <bboyce at swat.coop>
writes:
> has anyone know of a place that sells generic wear sleeves ?  the 
> rear engine seal journal is pitted pretty bad ,,, its 4 in. in 
> diameter and has a 5/8 in. face,,, couldnt find anything at the 
> local machine shops,,, their advice : just get another crankshaft,,, 
> yeah, lol,,,,
> i guess j b weld is an option but i'd rather use a sleeve;;
> any ideas will be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Wed May  9 19:44:58 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 21:44:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<013401c78f6a$18858f60$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>
Message-ID: <002f01c792ad$344a98d0$c8ed123f@D8LJ7K91>

My 4 HP Atlas engine has dual flywheel keys.  Maybe I can post a picture.

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim and Diane" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress


> The dual diagonal keys have a much higher shear strength and were many 
> times
> used in situations that were bidirectional.  Probably an overkill for a
> small engine but nevertheless a first class, and quite expensive, way of
> doing the job.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim and Diane
> Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
> jd.kirkes at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>
>
> Hi Jerry.
> I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
> they cut the key ways the way they did.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> writes:
>> Hi Ron,
>>          Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire
>> your
>> ingenuity and perseverance.
>> My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>>          As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were
>> inserted
>> diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a
>> "manufacturing reason" ?
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 10 21:14:50 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:14:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <002f01c792ad$344a98d0$c8ed123f@D8LJ7K91>
References: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>	<013401c78f6a$18858f60$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>
	<002f01c792ad$344a98d0$c8ed123f@D8LJ7K91>
Message-ID: <4643EDBA.50508@scrtc.com>

Glenn,
    Mentioning your Atlas, I got my Krueger Atlas home.  I think it has 
the 2 key ways on each flywheel hub also.  Here are some photos.  I've 
got some work to do on it as I'll have to have patterns made for a carb, 
ignitor, and fuel pump.  Just a bit of work to bring it back to life.

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539868

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539869&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539870&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539871&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539872&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539873&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539874&f=0

I love the governor on these engines as its nice to watch it spinning 
around while its running.

Tommy Turner




Glenn Karch wrote:

>My 4 HP Atlas engine has dual flywheel keys.  Maybe I can post a picture.
>
>Glenn Karch
>Hercules Historian
>Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Jim and Diane" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>
>
>  
>
>>The dual diagonal keys have a much higher shear strength and were many 
>>times
>>used in situations that were bidirectional.  Probably an overkill for a
>>small engine but nevertheless a first class, and quite expensive, way of
>>doing the job.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Jim and Diane
>>Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
>>jd.kirkes at verizon.net
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
>>To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:33 PM
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>>
>>
>>Hi Jerry.
>>I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
>>they cut the key ways the way they did.
>>
>>Ron Haskell
>>rdhaskell at juno.com
>>Riverside, California
>>USA
>>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>>
>>On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
>>writes:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Ron,
>>>         Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire
>>>your
>>>ingenuity and perseverance.
>>>My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>>>         As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were
>>>inserted
>>>diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a
>>>"manufacturing reason" ?
>>>      
>>>
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>
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>
>  
>



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu May 10 21:19:28 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:19:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] YouTube engine videos
Message-ID: <20070511041858.WSSJ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

There are an amazing number of engine videos appearing on YouTube these
days. A quick search turns up some interesting ones. Not wanting to be left
behind I have added three:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNtoOEHOyfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCLMTTgY1NE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lz3YWyrkzc
Enjoy :)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri May 11 14:21:02 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 23:21:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         I apologise for this totally off topic letter but it does have 
bearing on a letter I wrote to the list about a month ago - the discussion 
was "gun control" and crime after that school shooting in the USA.

         I mentioned the crime in South Africa and how we have all been 
affected and how the rest of the world never gets to hear about it.

         Well my mother was attacked, beaten up and robbed in her house 2 
nights ago. The steel security gate on one of the doors was broken out with 
a crowbar and then the glass door simply smashed with a rock. This was 
after midnight and she was asleep. The first she knew was when she was 
roughly pulled from her bed and beaten with a heavy stick and money 
demanded from her. She gave them what she had and between her and her 
little dog managed to fight them off and they fled. Thank goodness she was 
not raped as this is what these people usually do to humiliate the old 
people. She has a few bruises, a stab wound in the leg and a broken finger. 
She got off lightly. She's a tough "Old Cookie".

         My mother lives alone in her own house near the coast (about 350 
miles from here). She is 86 years old. This is the second time that this 
has happened to her in the last 10 years and the third time in her life.

         She refused to allow my brother (who lives near me) or I to go 
down and visit her saying that she is fine and it would just be a waste of 
time and money. Fortunately we have friends living near her and they have 
confirmed that she is O.K.

         Our laws prohibit the mention of race in the reporting of crime 
but I feel I can safely say "The perpetrators were not White skinned".

         Once more, I apologise for the "Off Topic" post and do not wish to 
start a new thread with this one - just thought you should know - 
especially all those of you who responded "off list" last time. I 
appreciate it.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Fri May 11 18:08:42 2007
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:08:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000401c79432$179784b0$0100000a@Bear>

Hi Jerry,
My wife's family left South Africa (Durban) about 12 years ago because of 
the increase in volante crime and her parents were worry about safety of 
their daughters.
They still call SA home and love the place and still have a lot of family 
over there that they worry about a lot.
"Oh my love for South Africa".
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. N.S.W. Australia.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:21 AM
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic


> Hi Guys,
>         I apologise for this totally off topic letter but it does have
> bearing on a letter I wrote to the list about a month ago - the discussion
> was "gun control" and crime after that school shooting in the USA.
>
>         I mentioned the crime in South Africa and how we have all been
> affected and how the rest of the world never gets to hear about it.
>
>         Well my mother was attacked, beaten up and robbed in her house 2
> nights ago. The steel security gate on one of the doors was broken out 
> with
> a crowbar and then the glass door simply smashed with a rock. This was
> after midnight and she was asleep. The first she knew was when she was
> roughly pulled from her bed and beaten with a heavy stick and money
> demanded from her. She gave them what she had and between her and her
> little dog managed to fight them off and they fled. Thank goodness she was
> not raped as this is what these people usually do to humiliate the old
> people. She has a few bruises, a stab wound in the leg and a broken 
> finger.
> She got off lightly. She's a tough "Old Cookie".
>
>         My mother lives alone in her own house near the coast (about 350
> miles from here). She is 86 years old. This is the second time that this
> has happened to her in the last 10 years and the third time in her life.
>
>         She refused to allow my brother (who lives near me) or I to go
> down and visit her saying that she is fine and it would just be a waste of
> time and money. Fortunately we have friends living near her and they have
> confirmed that she is O.K.
>
>         Our laws prohibit the mention of race in the reporting of crime
> but I feel I can safely say "The perpetrators were not White skinned".
>
>         Once more, I apologise for the "Off Topic" post and do not wish to
> start a new thread with this one - just thought you should know -
> especially all those of you who responded "off list" last time. I
> appreciate it.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
> Cell: 083 293 7191
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Fri May 11 18:28:16 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:28:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070511212441.039e8310@pop3.wcoil.com>

Does anyone know Tom Stranko? From PA I think.  A non computerized engine 
buddy of mine talked to him a while back on the phone on some Aeromotor 
parts and wrote the phone number down wrong.
Can someone get me in contact with him? Is he by chance on the list??

                               Thanks,    Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Fri May 11 20:39:45 2007
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 13:09:45 +0930
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070511212441.039e8310@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79447$2f74c880$6ec8a03a@chaos>

could this be him ?
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=thomas-users
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts





From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat May 12 04:26:14 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 07:26:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79447$2f74c880$6ec8a03a@chaos>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070511212441.039e8310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<000a01c79447$2f74c880$6ec8a03a@chaos>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070512072511.02f0bc90@pop3.wcoil.com>

At 11:39 PM 5/11/07, you wrote:
>could this be him ?
>http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=thomas-users


Thank You Derek, I'll email contact this fellow and 
see.                       Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 5 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 12 06:39:55 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:39:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Looking for Stover Book Cover
Message-ID: <003f01c7949b$077d4380$240110ac@FAMILY>

Folks Skip Landis was kind enough to copy his 1904 Stover Booklet for me but he was unable to scan the front cover for me so I could see the colors and try and make a color page for my copy. Here is a copy of the cover of the book:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/Stover1904BookCover.jpg

If anyone has an original 1904 Stover Book like this I would love to get a colored scan of just the front cover so I can try and reproduce it. The rest of the books is great, just need the front cover which is in color.

Thank,

Paul


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sat May 12 20:10:41 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:10:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>

I'm terribly sorry to hear that, Jerry.

My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome, 
encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks 
ago. He took a few hits from rocks, bottles and fists, and his visiting 
sister and roommate in the apartment were terrified as Joe was trying 
to get in as he was attacked. The NYPD, when called, cheerily asked a 
few questions and basically told him "Have a nice day, and go back to 
Tennessee." I don't suppose it would be correct to mention that these 
young men on the streets of New York did not have white skins, either. 
That's not an issue for Joe, but the fact that his skin is white seemed 
to be an issue to them. He'd done nothing to provoke them, other than 
being there and being white.

John

On May 11, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:

>          Well my mother was attacked, beaten up and robbed in her 
> house 2
> nights ago.


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From bboyce at swat.coop  Sun May 13 06:35:59 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 08:35:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <F27E191C568C417EB507980F8B54772C@billPC>

it seems reports of attacks like this pop up all too often,,,,,, rick 
perry, govenor of texas, receintly stated he thought any person with a 
concealed carry license should be able to carry ANYWHERE they wanted,,,i 
couldnt believe a politician would make such politically explosive 
statement, but hes got the right idea,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Culp" <johnculp at chartertn.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally Off Topic


 My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome,
> encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks
> ago. He took a few hits from rocks, bottles and fists, and his visiting
> sister and roommate in the apartment were terrified as Joe was trying
> to get in as he was attacked. The NYPD, when called, cheerily asked a
> few questions and basically told him "Have a nice day, and go back to
> Tennessee." I don't suppose it would be correct to mention that these
> young men on the streets of New York did not have white skins, either.
> That's not an issue for Joe, but the fact that his skin is white seemed
> to be an issue to them. He'd done nothing to provoke them, other than
> being there and being white.
>
> John
>
> On May 11, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:
> 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun May 13 07:22:47 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:22:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <F27E191C568C417EB507980F8B54772C@billPC>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
	<F27E191C568C417EB507980F8B54772C@billPC>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070513101521.038b6650@pop3.wcoil.com>

I agree with ya, And I'd vote for him and a great number of the silent 
majority probably would too. Sometimes you find a politician with 
conviction of their beliefs.  All to rare but once in a blue moon. If they 
all had the courage to speak up not as the vocal minority wants but as the 
silent majority believes and then walk the talk, politicians might be 
suprised at the favorable responce.  Politicians should realize that the 
minority marches in protests the majority stays at home and goes to 
work.   MARK

Nuff said from me, SEE YA'LL at PORTLAND SWAP

At 09:35 AM 5/13/07, you wrote:
>it seems reports of attacks like this pop up all too often,,,,,, rick
>perry, govenor of texas, receintly stated he thought any person with a
>concealed carry license should be able to carry ANYWHERE they wanted,,,i
>couldnt believe a politician would make such politically explosive
>statement, but hes got the right idea,,,
>bill boyce
>lost prairie, arkansas

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 5 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun May 13 12:03:36 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:03:36 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070513203715.03e1f268@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Just a quick note to say "Thank you" to all who responded to my 
first post on this subject. I received many "Off list" replies and not one 
of them was negative. I passed all your good wishes on to my mother and, to 
say the least, she was overwhelmed.
         She was very "touched" to receive so many good wishes from people 
all over the world. (I read them all out to her).
         Today was "Mothers Day" and I was not able to spend it with her 
but telephoned her many times. Quite a few of you insisted that I should go 
and visit her and, although I respect your sentiments, this was just not 
possible and she also understood this.
         She was amazed that I had so many friends all over the world and I 
thank you for this.
         I think that I did reply to all the "off list" mails I received 
but if I did miss anyone then I apologise to you, it was not intentional. 
There were a lot of mails and I tried to personally reply to each one.
         Thanks guys - the SEL is the best - you are all great guys.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Sun May 13 14:43:12 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:43:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
Message-ID: <BAY127-F32B6EDCF59412517D6D019CB3F0@phx.gbl>

John, what rational young man would be in New York?  The PD has the right 
idea.  Get back to Tennessee, Joseph!



Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun May 13 16:45:30 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:45:30 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070513184147.04a59728@mail.alltel.net>


>My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome,
>encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks
>ago.
>John

Sure sorry to hear about Joe and this "situation" John. I have NO IDEA why 
anyone would visit NY, much less live there!
         Dave
PS, See: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/28/elderly.mugging.ap/index.html and 
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2007/05/13/dennis.mi.91.year.old.beaten.wdiv 
for some of the finer moments in NYC!





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 13 17:11:24 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:11:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za><534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070513184147.04a59728@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <049701c795bc$6b8bc1e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

 Aint only NY! Its par for the course in the weatern world.
Sadly, all the good ANY 'rehab' efforts will be a total waste of time.
Now, IF the punishment was for real, only then would the number of offences 
reduce.
I remember a story told me by an old friend who fled Russia after WW2.
ANY crime was dealt with by a bullet. A wallet would stay where it lay in 
the road until the owner collected it. Anyone else touch it and they were 
guilty of theft, even if they were going to hand it in.
Sure, the other swing of the pendulum but...
If we dont get serious soon, no, the longer we leave it go, the closer we
come to total anarchy.
I see kids barely able to walk being pointed in the wrong direction re
obeying the law, by the parents! NO punishment for this. Sad.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally Off Topic


>
>>My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome,
>>encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks
>>ago.
>>John
>
> Sure sorry to hear about Joe and this "situation" John. I have NO IDEA why
> anyone would visit NY, much less live there!
>         Dave
> PS, See: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/28/elderly.mugging.ap/index.html
> and
> http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2007/05/13/dennis.mi.91.year.old.beaten.wdiv
> for some of the finer moments in NYC!
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Sun May 13 17:39:18 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 20:39:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] McComick-Deering Model M - Exhaust timing
Message-ID: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

Hi All

It has been a while since on this list, but finally got back to working on
an engine.  I have a model M 1.5 hp.  It ran for several years, but has not
run for a couple of years.  Upon trying to start, I had no compression, so I
pulled the head, crank bearing cap, and pulled the piston.  Rings froze, so
I replaced. After doing this it would not start, upon checking the timing
marks per manual, the exhaust is 180 degrees off.  

My question is, did I do something I am missing, or could it have run before
like this?  I really hate the thought of pulling the fly wheels and side
cover to check the timing marks.  My second question is, can I pull the gib
key driving the cam and turn it 180 degrees and replace the gib key?

 

 



 


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun May 13 19:20:40 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:20:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <049701c795bc$6b8bc1e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za><534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070513184147.04a59728@mail.alltel.net>
	<049701c795bc$6b8bc1e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <91ea51dc84a6ae6e112926cb2daf19d5@chartertn.net>

Well, I might as well post what I just sent off-List about this. I'm 
not advocating racism. It stinks, wherever it's practiced all over the 
world. And it sure is common.

My son Joe had lots of other encounters with black folks in Brooklyn. 
They were nonthreatening, most of them friendly and pleasant. Some of 
them who called him "white boy" and "cracker" were concerned about his 
welfare when he had lost his coat and was going to work on cold 
mornings in T-shirts. As for Joe, some guy with more dollars than sense 
had given him a $20 to switch seats with him on a plane. He still had 
it in a pocket when he ran into a poor couple, the crying woman 
obviously pregnant, who said they'd missed the free dinner at a 
neighborhood church. He gave them the $20. Didn't mention their color. 
Didn't care. Said he felt like he was meant to have that money to help 
them. But like I said, that gang of young thugs wanted to bust his ass 
because he was white. Go figure.

Why's he up there in New York? Trying to make a living, same as most 
folks. I think he's going to do right well at it, too. Takes a little 
while to get the pump primed for the cash flow. He's not starving, 
though. (He's been there all of two months.) He's getting flown to 
Paris next week for a two-day shoot (he's a model) that'll make him a 
pretty nice chunk of change, and a couple of Prada executives came to 
his agency Friday to interview him and his roommate for a show in 
Milan. That caused quite a stir at the agency, where they were 
expecting Miuccia Prada herself to show up. (I think she had called 
them to set it up.) Might as well have been the Queen coming. I figure 
the only way a couple of unknown new guys like these could have come to 
her attention was if she had been in the audience at the fashion show 
on April 30 to benefit the Parsons New School for Design at the Grand 
Hyatt Hotel in New York, in which both of them modeled. It was quite an 
affair with a lot of notable designers and other celebrities there. I 
figure Ms. Prada might've seen them, liked their looks and had them 
checked out. I sure hope it leads to a good deal for the boys, but just 
being approached about it is a terrific honor for them! Anyway, he's 
rational. He's got an opportunity to make good money, travel a lot, 
meet interesting people, and make contacts with folks who can help him 
in his art career later on. Pretty good deal when you're 19. :-)

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From kimmell at verizon.net  Sun May 13 20:19:37 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:19:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
Message-ID: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi all,
I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really 
been 8 YEARS???

Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I 
sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my 
drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After 
owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or 
deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up 
too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!

I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had 
a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early 
August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it 
didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm 
now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been 
for the last 3 years.

It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags, 
Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD 
engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have 
found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC 
model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I 
know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this 
Wednesday in Avon, IN.

Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as 
well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the 
M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound 
throttler ;-)

Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from 
anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see 
some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun May 13 20:33:31 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:33:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <4647D88B.6010606@scrtc.com>

Tony,
    Good to have you back.  See ya at Portland!

Tommy Turner



Tony & Jackie wrote:

>Hi all,
>I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really 
>been 8 YEARS???
>
>Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I 
>sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my 
>drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After 
>owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or 
>deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up 
>too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
>I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had 
>a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early 
>August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it 
>didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm 
>now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been 
>for the last 3 years.
>
>It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags, 
>Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD 
>engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have 
>found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC 
>model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I 
>know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this 
>Wednesday in Avon, IN.
>
>Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as 
>well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the 
>M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound 
>throttler ;-)
>
>Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from 
>anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see 
>some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.
>
>--
>Tony Kimmell
>Bloomington, IL
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
>  
>



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 13 22:06:52 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:06:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <050001c795e8$d202f930$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Hey Tony, good to see you back. Ya gunna have to update the pics we have of 
you!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!


> Hi all,
> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>
> Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I
> sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my
> drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After
> owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or
> deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up
> too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
> I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had
> a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early
> August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it
> didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm
> now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been
> for the last 3 years.
>
> It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags,
> Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD
> engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have
> found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC
> model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I
> know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this
> Wednesday in Avon, IN.
>
> Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as
> well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the
> M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound
> throttler ;-)
>
> Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from
> anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see
> some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun May 13 23:04:53 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:04:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>

On 14/05/07, Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>

Doesn't time fly when you are enjoying yourself? :-))

Good to hear from you again!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon May 14 03:50:46 2007
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 06:50:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <002101c79615$ba766770$336d4b47@mikecomp>

Always glad to welcome back someone into the hobby.  Just stay away from the 
tractors!!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!


> Hi all,
> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>
> Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I
> sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my
> drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After
> owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or
> deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up
> too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
> I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had
> a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early
> August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it
> didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm
> now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been
> for the last 3 years.
>
> It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags,
> Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD
> engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have
> found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC
> model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I
> know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this
> Wednesday in Avon, IN.
>
> Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as
> well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the
> M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound
> throttler ;-)
>
> Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from
> anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see
> some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 14 05:19:29 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:19:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001401c79622$22816bb0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Welcome back Tony to the special SEL family, it is good to know that we have 
gotten back a valuable member of our group.

Have A Great Day!!

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!


> On 14/05/07, Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
>> been 8 YEARS???
>>
>
> Doesn't time fly when you are enjoying yourself? :-))
>
> Good to hear from you again!
> 




From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon May 14 06:23:35 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>


>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>
>2hp sundile horazontle
>

>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 
>

Oh DEER!


Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 14 06:30:40 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:30:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net><6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <002301c7962c$111bf200$0601a8c0@altech>

Pity he can't spell, some of these eBay adverts sure bring out the schooling 
in some. The selling program has a spell check
Peter, Oz






>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon May 14 08:47:44 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:47:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705141143360.64661@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Tony,  Welcome back!!

Dave has often said that when teen-age guys discover "tits and tires" we
lose them for about a decade.  Glad to hear that you "survived."

See ya at Portland!!

Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Sun, 13 May 2007, Tony & Jackie wrote:

> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>
> Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I
> sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my
> drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After
> owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or
> deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up
> too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
> I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had
> a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early
> August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it
> didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm
> now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been
> for the last 3 years.



From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Mon May 14 09:02:34 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:02:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Timing
Message-ID: <000201c79641$4972cf10$6401a8c0@PaulNew>

On a McCormick Deering 'M', could I have disturbed the timing, by only
removing the head and piston.  According to the way I read the manual, I am
now 180 degrees off.  Any help is appreciated

 

TIA

Paul Waugh

 

 

 




From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon May 14 10:13:23 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:13:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Timing
In-Reply-To: <000201c79641$4972cf10$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <000201c79641$4972cf10$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <2115.165.206.180.53.1179162803.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

ONLY if you removed the cam or otherwise dis-engaged it from the crank gear.
You can impact ignition timing also by moving the trip, etc. but to impact
the exhaust timing, no, you'd have to unmesh the gears - or attempt to
start it backwards.

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> On a McCormick Deering 'M', could I have disturbed the timing, by only
> removing the head and piston.  According to the way I read the manual, I
> am
> now 180 degrees off.  Any help is appreciated
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> Paul Waugh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon May 14 14:42:56 2007
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:42:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
Message-ID: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>

Hi all ;

    My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push the clutch disk are all missing ,  If any one has any pictures or parts please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's , 
    I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this time I was a little smarter  , I also bought some yard decorations for My Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have learned that long ago .
   
Rex Hinz


From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon May 14 15:52:39 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:52:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
In-Reply-To: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>
References: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070514174932.05435008@mail.alltel.net>

At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>Hi all ;
>     My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double 
> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we 
> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push 
> the clutch disk are all missing ,  If any one has any pictures or parts 
> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>     I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction 
> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this 
> time I was a little smarter  , I also bought some yard decorations for My 
> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have 
> learned that long ago .
>Rex Hinz

Hi Rex,
          I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch 
set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also 
have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it 
and snail it to you if you think that would help.
         Dave



From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon May 14 15:43:40 2007
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:43:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
References: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070514174932.05435008@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000501c79679$52da35b0$6500a8c0@home>

   Thanks Dave;

 I was on your engine site and the 5 HP is different with the control lever 
on the engine side of the clutch and only one flywheel ,the one we have 
looks like it will be on the outside of the clutch , Oh by the way you have 
a great home page I really enjoyed looking ,  thanks for your quick reply 
Dave.

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch


> At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi all ;
>>     My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double
>> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we
>> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push
>> the clutch disk are all missing ,  If any one has any pictures or parts
>> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>>     I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction
>> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this
>> time I was a little smarter  , I also bought some yard decorations for My
>> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have
>> learned that long ago .
>>Rex Hinz
>
> Hi Rex,
>          I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch
> set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also
> have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it
> and snail it to you if you think that would help.
>         Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From plb at iinet.net.au  Mon May 14 16:01:39 2007
From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:01:39 +0800
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
In-Reply-To: <002301c7962c$111bf200$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net><6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>	<7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>
	<002301c7962c$111bf200$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <005501c7967b$d50225a0$7f0670e0$@net.au>

Well he is an Eastern Stater and from Yarrawonga at that. :D
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 9:31 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay

Pity he can't spell, some of these eBay adverts sure bring out the schooling

in some. The selling program has a spell check
Peter, Oz






>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ2
30129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
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From skipl130 at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 16:25:49 2007
From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070514174932.05435008@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <374278.32442.qm@web35314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi rex, i have a couple of these & there is no sign of any way to release the clutch. it has a heavy spring on the shaft outside the outer clutch plate , like an over ride clutch if the saw binds. i think these are correct. i do have a few other parts when you figure out what's missing.  skip

Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:  At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>Hi all ;
> My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double 
> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we 
> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push 
> the clutch disk are all missing , If any one has any pictures or parts 
> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
> I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction 
> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this 
> time I was a little smarter , I also bought some yard decorations for My 
> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have 
> learned that long ago .
>Rex Hinz

Hi Rex,
I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch 
set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also 
have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it 
and snail it to you if you think that would help.
Dave

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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 14 19:21:15 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:21:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
Message-ID: <380-22007521522115780@M2W025.mail2web.com>

Cheeky Westerner ;-))))



Well he is an Eastern Stater and from Yarrawonga at that. :D
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 9:31 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay

Pity he can't spell, some of these eBay adverts sure bring out the schooling

in some. The selling program has a spell check
Peter, Oz






>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ2
30129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
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From bboyce at swat.coop  Mon May 14 20:10:37 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:10:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
Message-ID: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>

does anyone know of a way to find highway overpass, or underpass clearances for a certain route?  i googled and found 
"low clearances" for each state, but the benchmark used is the state statutory height,, usually 13.5 or 14 feet,,,i;m looking for routes that give more clearance,,, i;m looking at hauling a ag spray rig from the midwest down into southern arkansas,, the 60 foot booms folded will still stand 14 or 15 feet  off the ground,when the rig is loaded on the trailer,,,,,
any ideas will be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.


From jtstraka at adelphia.net  Mon May 14 20:43:06 2007
From: jtstraka at adelphia.net (jtstraka at adelphia.net)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:43:06 -0700
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
Message-ID: <19339244.1179200586254.JavaMail.root@web21>

---- Go to a truck stop .They have the books on all bridge clearances . Ted


From kimmell at verizon.net  Mon May 14 20:55:45 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:55:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705141143360.64661@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0705141143360.64661@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0JI200F91DLVRCS6@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>

Hey Arnie,
I can't dispute that... Trucks, parties and girls (in that order) 
were my whole life there for a solid 3-4 years.  I remember Leroy 
Clark telling me the same thing at Portland back in '98.  "You'll get 
out of the hobby, but it'll always be in your blood."

C-ya...
Tony


At 10:47 AM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>Hey Tony,  Welcome back!!
>
>Dave has often said that when teen-age guys discover "tits and tires" we
>lose them for about a decade.  Glad to hear that you "survived."
>
>See ya at Portland!!
>
>Arnie




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon May 14 17:06:43 2007
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:06:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
References: <374278.32442.qm@web35314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79684$ec944d20$6500a8c0@home>

I think your right Skip , If it binds the spring tension would be adjusted 
to let it slip till the operator lifted the saw ,  I guess all that's 
missing is the spring , Thanks for your help

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Landis" <skipl130 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch


> hi rex, i have a couple of these & there is no sign of any way to release 
> the clutch. it has a heavy spring on the shaft outside the outer clutch 
> plate , like an over ride clutch if the saw binds. i think these are 
> correct. i do have a few other parts when you figure out what's missing. 
> skip
>
> Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:  At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you 
> wrote:
>>Hi all ;
>> My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double
>> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we
>> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push
>> the clutch disk are all missing , If any one has any pictures or parts
>> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>> I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction
>> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this
>> time I was a little smarter , I also bought some yard decorations for My
>> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have
>> learned that long ago .
>>Rex Hinz
>
> Hi Rex,
> I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch
> set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also
> have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it
> and snail it to you if you think that would help.
> Dave
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Tue May 15 03:07:56 2007
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:07:56 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
Message-ID: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>

G,day Russell 

its amazing what 15 Beers Does for your spelling


----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: The SEL email discussion list
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000

> >I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the
> tittle reads : >
> >2hp sundile horazontle
> >
> 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-
> engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ
> 1QQcmdZViewItem  >
> 
> Oh DEER!
> 
> 
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
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From curt at imc-group.com  Tue May 15 04:34:49 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:34:49 -0400
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
In-Reply-To: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>
References: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>
Message-ID: <46499AD9.1060904@imc-group.com>

Brock,
There's a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black!  :-)
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

brock at netspeed.com.au wrote:
> G,day Russell 
>
> its amazing what 15 Beers Does for your spelling
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000
>
>   
>>> I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the
>>>       
>> tittle reads : >
>>     
>>> 2hp sundile horazontle
>>>
>>>       



From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May 15 07:34:07 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:34:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
In-Reply-To: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
References: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070515093300.04b44608@mail.alltel.net>

I would think that the state (ie individual states) DOT would be able to 
give you that information over the phone.
         Dave

At 10:10 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>does anyone know of a way to find highway overpass, or underpass 
>clearances for a certain route?  i googled and found
>"low clearances" for each state, but the benchmark used is the state 
>statutory height,, usually 13.5 or 14 feet,,,i;m looking for routes that 
>give more clearance,,, i;m looking at hauling a ag spray rig from the 
>midwest down into southern arkansas,, the 60 foot booms folded will still 
>stand 14 or 15 feet  off the ground,when the rig is loaded on the trailer,,,,,
>any ideas will be appreciated,,,
>bill boyce
>lost prairie, arkansas
>Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.



From bill at antique-engines.com  Tue May 15 06:58:18 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
References: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
Message-ID: <1277.165.206.180.53.1179237498.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
(25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
Anything to avoid on the way there or back?

Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?

Any interesting engine stuff there?

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


From skipl130 at yahoo.com  Tue May 15 07:07:44 2007
From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79684$ec944d20$6500a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <240642.44166.qm@web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

your'e welcome.

Rex Hinz <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:  I think your right Skip , If it binds the spring tension would be adjusted 
to let it slip till the operator lifted the saw , I guess all that's 
missing is the spring , Thanks for your help

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Landis" 
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch


> hi rex, i have a couple of these & there is no sign of any way to release 
> the clutch. it has a heavy spring on the shaft outside the outer clutch 
> plate , like an over ride clutch if the saw binds. i think these are 
> correct. i do have a few other parts when you figure out what's missing. 
> skip
>
> Dave Rotigel wrote: At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you 
> wrote:
>>Hi all ;
>> My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double
>> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we
>> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push
>> the clutch disk are all missing , If any one has any pictures or parts
>> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>> I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction
>> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this
>> time I was a little smarter , I also bought some yard decorations for My
>> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have
>> learned that long ago .
>>Rex Hinz
>
> Hi Rex,
> I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch
> set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also
> have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it
> and snail it to you if you think that would help.
> Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
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From andyglines at hotmail.com  Tue May 15 11:02:46 2007
From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:02:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1179244802.20136.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <BAY141-F334A4080DBE2806766BF21C73D0@phx.gbl>


>Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:34:07 -0500
>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070515093300.04b44608 at mail.alltel.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>I would think that the state (ie individual states) DOT would be able to
>give you that information over the phone.
>          Dave
I agree that they gov't SHOULD have accurate information to give you.  I 
also think that if you rely on the DOT for anything but writing tickets that 
you will be missing parts from your sparyer when you get home.  My first 
suggestion is to make changes necessary to get the height below 13'6" which 
is the MIN clearance in most places.  I also suggest that you check into 
some resources used by the trucking industry.  Their may be some good 
websites to help you plan your route.  I think that there are maps published 
specifically for truckers with clearance and weight restriction info.  You 
can check the nearest truckstop for these maps.

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From oldengines at bigpond.com  Tue May 15 12:41:24 2007
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:41:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net><6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001e01c79729$05d70760$0300000a@ronliz>

Well he's from the southern state Victoria.It's all starting to remind me of 
a older movie from the 70's with Burt Reynolds  ????
Ron  & Liz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay


>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> _______________________________________________
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From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue May 15 15:55:01 2007
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 06:55:01 +0800
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay.....now OT
References: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>
	<46499AD9.1060904@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <005501c79744$17db8060$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

''The Pot Calling the Kettle Black''................give me a break, there 
could be no more guilty party to the crime of murdering the English language 
than the descendants of the Pilgrim Fathers !
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay


> Brock,
> There's a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black!  :-)
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> brock at netspeed.com.au wrote:
>> G,day Russell
>>
>> its amazing what 15 Beers Does for your spelling
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
>> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000
>>
>>
>>>> I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the
>>>>
>>> tittle reads : >
>>>
>>>> 2hp sundile horazontle
>>>>
>>>>
>
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From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon May 14 02:15:01 2007
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:15:01 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>

Test

7.14pm   Mon


From FRM8198 at aol.com  Tue May 15 20:09:47 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:09:47 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <c94.108808ed.337bcffb@aol.com>

Arrived at 8:07 Pacific Daylight time  

Francis Maciel
Santa Maria,  Ca




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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue May 15 20:09:12 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:12 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue May 15 20:10:47 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:10:47 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20070515.201047.1932.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

It made it to the left coast at 8:09 PM Tuesday.  Things are slow???
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 19:15:01 +1000 "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
writes:
> Test
> 
> 7.14pm   Mon


From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Tue May 15 21:25:16 2007
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:25:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
References: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <001901c79772$3a24e1b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

You're working OK. Cam
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From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: [SEL] Test


> Test
> 
> 7.14pm   Mon
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From rwenig at telus.net  Tue May 15 20:14:16 2007
From: rwenig at telus.net (Rupert Wenig)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:14:16 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
References: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <464A7708.6090007@telus.net>

	Who said anything about a test?

9:13 PM MDT

Kerry wrote:
> Test
> 
> 7.14pm   Mon
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue May 15 23:24:38 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:24:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <20070516062357.POXR14704.oaamta06ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Arrived here 1.08pm Wednesday. A day and a half to travel 140km, I thought
things were slow in Lithgow ;)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Test

7.14pm   Mon




From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Wed May 16 05:03:25 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:03:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <1277.165.206.180.53.1179237498.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>

Howdy
Having pulled RV for the last 5 years, this is my PERSONAL opinion.  I-80
across IA,IL,IN and OH not a bad ride. One toll booth in IL (they have
really opened up the bottom of Chicago) and OH is all toll. OH runs about
$20 for 4 axles. Now PA I-80 is very mountainous and seems to have a lot of
construction. I-76 is toll road, but is the way I would go if it was not out
of the way.
My 2 cents
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
bill at antique-engines.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:58 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA

OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
(25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
Anything to avoid on the way there or back?

Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?

Any interesting engine stuff there?

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Wed May 16 05:08:12 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:08:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
In-Reply-To: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
Message-ID: <002401c797b2$e0655a60$6401a8c0@PaulNew>

At 15 ft you are liable to catch a wire if working around a low bridge ..
truck stops do have books on bridge clearance, even some of the better
trucker atlas have them in also
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of bill boyce
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:11 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances

does anyone know of a way to find highway overpass, or underpass clearances
for a certain route?  i googled and found 
"low clearances" for each state, but the benchmark used is the state
statutory height,, usually 13.5 or 14 feet,,,i;m looking for routes that
give more clearance,,, i;m looking at hauling a ag spray rig from the
midwest down into southern arkansas,, the 60 foot booms folded will still
stand 14 or 15 feet  off the ground,when the rig is loaded on the
trailer,,,,,
any ideas will be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May 16 05:30:44 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:30:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <1343.165.206.180.53.1179318644.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Thanks.....

I think it was I seventy-something a counsin suggested.

I'd like to avoid mountains and steep grades..... no trailer brakes.
The brakes on the truck are GREAT, 3/4 ton heavy axles, but still.
I like flat, I like smooth, I like no tolls and a free ride. Iowa has no
tolls, but has excellent roads and highways. Wonder why the others can't
do the same? They sell more gas and have more registered vehicles to
collect taxes on.....

Anyway, I hope to take the fastest, smoothest and most level route.

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


> Howdy
> Having pulled RV for the last 5 years, this is my PERSONAL opinion.  I-80
> across IA,IL,IN and OH not a bad ride. One toll booth in IL (they have
> really opened up the bottom of Chicago) and OH is all toll. OH runs about
> $20 for 4 axles. Now PA I-80 is very mountainous and seems to have a lot
> of
> construction. I-76 is toll road, but is the way I would go if it was not
> out
> of the way.
> My 2 cents
> Paul Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> bill at antique-engines.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:58 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
>
> OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
> (25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
> Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
> Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
> Anything to avoid on the way there or back?
>
> Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?
>
> Any interesting engine stuff there?
>
> Bill
> Runnells, Iowa
> Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
> http://antique-engines.com
> 1970 Javelin
> 1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
> http://theamcpages.com
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From nick at holden1.net  Wed May 16 11:21:32 2007
From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <464B4BAC.000001.01332@YOUR-447023AE6B>

Hi Ron
 
This may be just what you are looking for
 
 
http://cgi.ebay
com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0QQite
Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
 
 
 
 
Nick
Banbury (UK)
http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: rdhaskell at juno.com
Date: 05/16/07 04:18:11
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
 
Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed May 16 12:06:52 2007
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:06:52 +0100
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<464B4BAC.000001.01332@YOUR-447023AE6B>
Message-ID: <000501c797ed$5e794e40$e5c30b52@no1>

Hi Nick, should that be
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33577QQihZ015QQitemZ250079474534QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Holden" <nick at holden1.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator


> Hi Ron
>
> This may be just what you are looking for
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay
> com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0QQite
> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
>
> Nick
> Banbury (UK)
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: rdhaskell at juno.com
> Date: 05/16/07 04:18:11
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
>
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:27:44 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:27:44 +0100
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705161227m794ed48o79398dcc690ac35f@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, rdhaskell at juno.com <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell

Regulator listed is P/No  5879, along with resistor #1854576.

Peter
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:52:46 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:52:46 +0100
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160705161227m794ed48o79398dcc690ac35f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<6f6025160705161227m794ed48o79398dcc690ac35f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705161252r608b65a5mc2d06ff40b6bbd66@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16/05/07, rdhaskell at juno.com <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> > Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ron Haskell
>
> Regulator listed is P/No  5879, along with resistor #1854576.
>

It is also a truck generator, comes up in the Autocar truck listings
for 1938, shows as a 3-brush unit,  brush set #1857963.
















                                                     Peter


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed May 16 12:53:10 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:53:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070516.125311.1944.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 Thanks Nick, but that link doesn't work for me?

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) "Nick Holden"
<nick at holden1.net> writes:
> Hi Ron
>  
> This may be just what you are looking for
>  
>  
> http://cgi.ebay
>
com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0Q
Qite
> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem


From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Wed May 16 14:22:38 2007
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:22:38 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Kohler Questions
Message-ID: <012d01c79800$556e1c50$0200a8c0@fbi>

Hi Folks

Picked up a Kohler light plant on eBay recently and it runs like a Swiss clock.  Only problem is that oil is not getting up to the rockers / valves.  I've stripped the engine casing open and found that the oil pump is in good condition.  The oil rises off the oil pump in a copper pipe then to the rear of the camshaft housing.  From there another copper pipe takes the oil to the splash pan for the main bearings, the front timing gears and up to the rockers.  Where this pipe comes out of the camshaft housing at the rear of the engine, it is loose and lets oil seep out.  Is this a push-fit into the casting?  Or am I missing a few parts?
Any help would be appreciated!
I can take pics if it would help.

Thanks,
Jim
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May 16 14:46:41 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:46:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070516.125311.1944.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c79803$b07b8f80$0601a8c0@altech>

If the eBay links do not work when wrapped on the page, just copy and paste 
the item number from the link into the eBay search box 250113526382

Peter, Oz






> Thanks Nick, but that link doesn't work for me?
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) "Nick Holden"
> <nick at holden1.net> writes:
>> Hi Ron
>>
>> This may be just what you are looking for
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay
>>
> com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0Q
> Qite
>> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 15:13:59 2007
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 17:13:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>

Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a Kohler
engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.  I found a
wiring diagram for a newer one with a similar setup; it's negative
ground.  I feel this one should be but the ground terminal is large
(fitting the pos battery terminal) & the solenoid cable is too small for
the positive post on the battery.  No battery in it when I got it.  I've
got it running using the positive ground but haven't put a meter on it
to see if it's charging.  

I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward
which I doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a
generator tho I've forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's a
Delco.

Thanks!

Lew Best near Waco, TX

-----Original Message-----
 Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 

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From nick at holden1.net  Wed May 16 13:18:05 2007
From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:18:05 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070516.125311.1944.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <464B66FD.000001.02764@YOUR-447023AE6B>

Ron it looks like all the link has not come up 
So its item number 250113526382
Nick 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: rdhaskell at juno.com
Date: 05/16/07 21:05:28
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator
 
  Thanks Nick, but that link doesn't work for me?
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 
On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) "Nick Holden"
<nick at holden1.net> writes:
> Hi Ron
>
> This may be just what you are looking for
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay
>
com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0Q
Qite
> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
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From b2 at chooka.net  Wed May 16 16:45:19 2007
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:45:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
Message-ID: <001901c79814$4588f580$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>

Others will surely jump in if I don't have this quite right, but I believe
the starter-generator you describe is kind of self-polarizing by just using
it to start the engine.  The polarity is a question of what regulator you
have, not of the starter-generator itself.  The regulator is normally
stamped for voltage and ground polarity, usually on the base; thus I'd
expect you to find a 12P or 12V P (or N) stamped or sometimes printed.
Printing is a sign of an aftermarket regulator; Delco used a good stamp so
it couldn't wear off.  Thus be careful when cleaning it looking for the
mark, in case yours is printed. If a regulator is run at the wrong polarity
it will work OK for a while, maybe quite a while.  But the points do burn up
quicker if run with reverse polarity. 

You can also tell the polarity of a regulator by looking at the points, but
I don't remember how.  Maybe someone can explain that to us.

Polarity will not affect the direction of rotation, for either starting or
for generating.

B?
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Lew Best
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:14 PM
To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)

Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a Kohler
engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.  I found a wiring
diagram for a newer one with a similar setup; it's negative ground.  I feel
this one should be but the ground terminal is large (fitting the pos battery
terminal) & the solenoid cable is too small for the positive post on the
battery.  No battery in it when I got it.  I've got it running using the
positive ground but haven't put a meter on it to see if it's charging.  

I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward which I
doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a generator tho I've
forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's a Delco.

Thanks!

Lew Best near Waco, TX

-----Original Message-----
 Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 

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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed May 16 16:56:35 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:56:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070516.165635.1944.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Thanks Nick.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed May 16 16:57:18 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:57:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070516.165719.1944.5.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Thanks Peter.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From asouth42 at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 20:12:59 2007
From: asouth42 at earthlink.net (ArthurDeana Southwell)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 23:12:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
References: <002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
Message-ID: <004a01c79831$46fcf1b0$6601a8c0@ARTHUR>

Because it's a starter-generator, it will polarize itself when you "crank" 
it.

Delco systems ... strike a quick arc between Bat. terminal and Arm.(Gen) 
terminal.

That, in effect, is what you are doing when you apply battery power to the 
starter-generator to "crank" the engine "over".

If battery ignition, check the terminal marking + or - of the wire from the 
coil to the points. That sign is ground.

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lew Best" <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)


> Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a Kohler
> engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.
Snipped

> I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward
> which I doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a
> generator tho I've forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's a
> Delco.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 20:24:59 2007
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:24:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <004a01c79831$46fcf1b0$6601a8c0@ARTHUR>
Message-ID: <007901c79832$f4404d30$e869c240@OFFICELEW>

Thanks guys!  

Guess polarity is no big deal; was just concerned it might not be
charging (haven't messed with it in a few days; needed a tire & TSC was
out; got 2 on EBay tho that'll be shipped tomorrow so I'll get back to
it soon (too many projects!).

Lew


-----Original Message-----
 Because it's a starter-generator, it will polarize itself when you
"crank" 
it.

Delco systems ... strike a quick arc between Bat. terminal and Arm.(Gen)

terminal.

That, in effect, is what you are doing when you apply battery power to
the 
starter-generator to "crank" the engine "over".

If battery ignition, check the terminal marking + or - of the wire from
the 
coil to the points. That sign is ground.

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lew Best" <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)


> Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a
Kohler
> engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.
Snipped

> I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward
> which I doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a
> generator tho I've forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's
a
> Delco.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
>
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed May 16 23:28:53 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:28:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Kohler Questions
In-Reply-To: <012d01c79800$556e1c50$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012d01c79800$556e1c50$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705162328g60e53b8g4ee7b40611580de1@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, Jim French <fbi at insulate.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> Picked up a Kohler light plant on eBay recently and it runs like a Swiss clock.  Only problem is that oil is not getting up to the rockers / valves.  I've stripped the engine casing open and found that the oil pump is in good condition.  The oil rises off the oil pump in a copper pipe then to the rear of the camshaft housing.  From there another copper pipe takes the oil to the splash pan for the main bearings, the front timing gears and up to the rockers.  Where this pipe comes out of the camshaft housing at the rear of the engine, it is loose and lets oil seep out.  Is this a push-fit into the casting?  Or am I missing a few parts?
> Any help would be appreciated!
> I can take pics if it would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
> --
> Jim French

Which engine?

There is a large section on our website for the Kohler equipment,
schematics included.

We haven't had time to scan the engine stuff yet, but we do have
manuals for most of  them .

Peter


-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From briwatt at optusnet.com.au  Thu May 17 00:37:43 2007
From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:37:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 2 Engines For Sale
Message-ID: <000c01c79856$424ab470$e1d9eedc@fred>

We Are refining our collection and have 2 Austral Sideshaft Eng. for sale.  photos can be seen on webshots.
 1- 5Hp. portable, mag.start.
 1-8 HP. lamp Start Portable.
both in very good condition.
looking for $ 7000. each.
Brian and David Watts
Melbourne 
Australia
(03) 97266147
http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat
briwatt at optusnet.com.au



From bill at antique-engines.com  Thu May 17 04:58:23 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 04:58:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> Howdy
> Having pulled RV for the last 5 years, this is my PERSONAL opinion.  I-80
> across IA,IL,IN and OH not a bad ride. One toll booth in IL (they have
> really opened up the bottom of Chicago) and OH is all toll. OH runs about
> $20 for 4 axles. Now PA I-80 is very mountainous and seems to have a lot
> of
> construction. I-76 is toll road, but is the way I would go if it was not
> out
> of the way.
> My 2 cents
> Paul Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> bill at antique-engines.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:58 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
>
> OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
> (25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
> Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
> Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
> Anything to avoid on the way there or back?
>
> Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?
>
> Any interesting engine stuff there?
>
> Bill
> Runnells, Iowa
> Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
> http://antique-engines.com
> 1970 Javelin
> 1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
> http://theamcpages.com
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Thu May 17 06:56:07 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:56:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station
In-Reply-To: <003601c6f088$bbb6dda0$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEGPFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Rick:

The gensets are now off the island and being set-up in their new homes.  I will continue updating the web page until all threee are in place and making smoke.  Feel free to use anything on the page for the article in ISSES.  

If you want to use any of the photos and the quality of them on the page isn't as good as you need (I've dumbed them down for slow hookups), contact me with the photo names (gotten by right clicking on the photo and selecting "Properties") and I'll send the best quality images I have.

All I ask is that I get to proof read it before publication and get a comp. copy of the print media when the issue with the article is released.

Here's the "F-M' Power Station" page.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/F-M%20Power%20Station/F-M%20Power%20Station.html

Take care - Elden DuRand
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

P.S.:  Note that my email address has changed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Rick
> Rowlands
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 01:36 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
> Power Station
> 
> 
> Elden,
> 
> We would like to do an article for the 
> International Stationary Steam Engine 
> Society's Bulletin about the FM rescue project so 
> take good notes and 
> pictures.
> 
> No ISSES isn't just about stationary steam, we're 
> also into big stationary 
> IC engines too!
> 
> Rick Rowlands
> US ISSES Secretary




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 17 06:16:14 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:16:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEGPFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEGPFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <464C559E.9080602@scrtc.com>

Great work you did Elden of getting the word out about these hunks of 
iron.  I'll get to see a couple of them, at East TN and Coolspring, in 
the future.  Thanks for the photos!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, Ky


>Rick:
>
>The gensets are now off the island and being set-up in their new homes.  I will continue updating the web page until all threee are in place and making smoke.  Feel free to use anything on the page for the article in ISSES.  
>
>If you want to use any of the photos and the quality of them on the page isn't as good as you need (I've dumbed them down for slow hookups), contact me with the photo names (gotten by right clicking on the photo and selecting "Properties") and I'll send the best quality images I have.
>
>All I ask is that I get to proof read it before publication and get a comp. copy of the print media when the issue with the article is released.
>
>Here's the "F-M' Power Station" page.
>
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/F-M%20Power%20Station/F-M%20Power%20Station.html
>
>Take care - Elden DuRand
>edurand at mchsi.com
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 
>
>P.S.:  Note that my email address has changed.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>> Behalf Of Rick
>>Rowlands
>>Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 01:36 PM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
>>Power Station
>>
>>
>>Elden,
>>
>>We would like to do an article for the 
>>International Stationary Steam Engine 
>>Society's Bulletin about the FM rescue project so 
>>take good notes and 
>>pictures.
>>
>>No ISSES isn't just about stationary steam, we're 
>>also into big stationary 
>>IC engines too!
>>
>>Rick Rowlands
>>US ISSES Secretary
>>    
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>  
>




From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May 17 06:29:00 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:29:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <001901c79814$4588f580$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>	<002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
	<001901c79814$4588f580$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>
Message-ID: <464C589C.5080309@imc-group.com>

To polarize the field on a generator, you simply take the field wire 
loose at the connector stud, and with the battery on you strike the 
loose wire several times against the connector stud, creating a 
sparking. Those EMF spikes do an excellent job of adding permanent 
polarity to the laminations.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Bill Brueck wrote:
> Others will surely jump in if I don't have this quite right, but I believe
> the starter-generator you describe is kind of self-polarizing by just using
> it to start the engine.  The polarity is a question of what regulator you
> have, not of the starter-generator itself.  The regulator is normally
> stamped for voltage and ground polarity, usually on the base; thus I'd
> expect you to find a 12P or 12V P (or N) stamped or sometimes printed.
> Printing is a sign of an aftermarket regulator; Delco used a good stamp so
> it couldn't wear off.  Thus be careful when cleaning it looking for the
> mark, in case yours is printed. If a regulator is run at the wrong polarity
> it will work OK for a while, maybe quite a while.  But the points do burn up
> quicker if run with reverse polarity. 
>
> You can also tell the polarity of a regulator by looking at the points, but
> I don't remember how.  Maybe someone can explain that to us.
>
> Polarity will not affect the direction of rotation, for either starting or
> for generating.
>
>   



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Thu May 17 06:27:49 2007
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:27:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Ernst Plank Vacuum engine, (Flame Licker)
Message-ID: <000301c79887$2bae7950$e5c30b52@no1>

See http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2611189350028520097mWltZy
       http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2966163970028520097zOeSxK

Does anyone have a better photo of the Decal on the base of the engine.
I am trying to re-draw thise to make a replacement.
TIA


Dave Croft 
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From edurand at mchsi.com  Thu May 17 08:03:07 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:03:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station
In-Reply-To: <464C559E.9080602@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEHBFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Tommy and others:

The biggest high is seeing these large iron monsters getting new homes and not coming back from China as modern junk.

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Judge Tommy
> Turner
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 08:16 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
> Power Station
> 
> 
> Great work you did Elden of getting the word out 
> about these hunks of 
> iron.  I'll get to see a couple of them, at East 
> TN and Coolspring, in 
> the future.  Thanks for the photos!
> 
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, Ky
> 
> 
> >Rick:
> >
> >The gensets are now off the island and being 
> set-up in their new homes.  I will continue 
> updating the web page until all threee are in 
> place and making smoke.  Feel free to use 
> anything on the page for the article in ISSES.  
> >
> >If you want to use any of the photos and the 
> quality of them on the page isn't as good as you 
> need (I've dumbed them down for slow hookups), 
> contact me with the photo names (gotten by right 
> clicking on the photo and selecting "Properties") 
> and I'll send the best quality images I have.
> >
> >All I ask is that I get to proof read it before 
> publication and get a comp. copy of the print 
> media when the issue with the article is released.
> >
> >Here's the "F-M' Power Station" page.
> >
> >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/F-M%20Pow
er%20Station/F-M%20Power%20Station.html
>
>Take care - Elden DuRand
>edurand at mchsi.com
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 
>
>P.S.:  Note that my email address has changed.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>> Behalf Of Rick
>>Rowlands
>>Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 01:36 PM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
>>Power Station
>>
>>
>>Elden,
>>
>>We would like to do an article for the 
>>International Stationary Steam Engine 
>>Society's Bulletin about the FM rescue project so 
>>take good notes and 
>>pictures.
>>
>>No ISSES isn't just about stationary steam, we're 
>>also into big stationary 
>>IC engines too!
>>
>>Rick Rowlands
>>US ISSES Secretary
>>    
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>  
>


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From bill at antique-engines.com  Thu May 17 09:59:45 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:59:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT - Hauling offer
In-Reply-To: <000c01c79856$424ab470$e1d9eedc@fred>
References: <000c01c79856$424ab470$e1d9eedc@fred>
Message-ID: <3866.165.206.180.53.1179421185.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

I'll be leaving Iowa EARLY AM (VERY) on May 25th for Reading PA.

I'll be getting there early Saturday, then hopefully get back to Iowa on
Sunday.

I'll have a 16' flatbed and 3/4 ton pickup.
If there are any small parts/engines, etc. that need a ride........  If
you can get them to or from the towns/cities I'll end up in........

I'll be on a schedule and travelling with another fellow who knows Eagles
very well (the type of car I'm picking up) so can't make huge side trips,
but if something would work......


Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 17 11:40:58 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:40:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engine s.com>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
	<1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Bill,
         What the heck kind of "VERY HEAVY trailer" are you pulling? Hell, 
my 10,000 GVW only weight about 2,500 lbs. Most 12,000 GVW trailers don't 
weigh much more than that. You will be well under 5 tons total. What's the 
big deal?
         Dave
PS, Keep in mind that if your trailer is licensed at 10,001 GVW (or above) 
that special regulations "kick in."

At 06:58 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
>Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
>life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
>and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
>out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
>on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!
>Bill



From bill at antique-engines.com  Thu May 17 10:59:18 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
	<1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <4430.165.206.180.53.1179424758.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

http://theamcpages.com/images/javelin/jav-trailer.jpg

That thing is all channel iron and I-beams. The ramps, stored under the
trailer in iron channels, are over 100 pounds each.
Takes 2 guys to lift the winch I have on the front of it (you can just
about see the blue spool of the winch in that photo).
The beast is HEAVY.
Naw, it's licensed as an ordinary "home-built".

Well sounds like I won't have any problems, then.

Bill

> Hi Bill,
>          What the heck kind of "VERY HEAVY trailer" are you pulling? Hell,
> my 10,000 GVW only weight about 2,500 lbs. Most 12,000 GVW trailers don't
> weigh much more than that. You will be well under 5 tons total. What's the
> big deal?
>          Dave
> PS, Keep in mind that if your trailer is licensed at 10,001 GVW (or above)
> that special regulations "kick in."
>
> At 06:58 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>>In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
>>Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
>>life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
>>and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
>>out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
>>on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!
>>Bill
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 17 12:32:55 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:32:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <4430.165.206.180.53.1179424758.squirrel@www.antique-engine s.com>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
	<1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>
	<4430.165.206.180.53.1179424758.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517143126.04f01a48@mail.alltel.net>

You will be WELL under 3 1/2 tons and have NOTHING to worry about. Have a 
good trip!
         Dave

At 12:59 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>http://theamcpages.com/images/javelin/jav-trailer.jpg
>
>That thing is all channel iron and I-beams. The ramps, stored under the
>trailer in iron channels, are over 100 pounds each.
>Takes 2 guys to lift the winch I have on the front of it (you can just
>about see the blue spool of the winch in that photo).
>The beast is HEAVY.
>Naw, it's licensed as an ordinary "home-built".
>
>Well sounds like I won't have any problems, then.
>
>Bill
>
> > Hi Bill,
> >          What the heck kind of "VERY HEAVY trailer" are you pulling? Hell,
> > my 10,000 GVW only weight about 2,500 lbs. Most 12,000 GVW trailers don't
> > weigh much more than that. You will be well under 5 tons total. What's the
> > big deal?
> >          Dave
> > PS, Keep in mind that if your trailer is licensed at 10,001 GVW (or above)
> > that special regulations "kick in."
> >
> > At 06:58 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
> >>In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
> >>Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
> >>life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
> >>and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
> >>out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
> >>on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!
> >>Bill
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 13:47:05 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:47:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <215F9470-8E09-44E2-B808-3C636C89055F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>


Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and darkly 
age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea what will 
quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve

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From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Thu May 17 13:58:03 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:58:03 +0100
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
References: <215F9470-8E09-44E2-B808-3C636C89055F@rustyiron.com>
	<BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <017d01c798c6$0fdb5f10$8335c53e@doc>

There's some info here that may help -
http://web2.ccpl.org/prvEmployees/HTML/scienceproject/OnlineExhibits/ncw/Gre
enPatinaFinish.html

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

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> Steve Royster
> Sent: 17 May 2007 21:47
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
> 
> 
> Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to 
> quickly and darkly 
> age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any 
> idea what will 
> quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> 
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 17 14:36:03 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <464CCAC3.2080907@scrtc.com>

Steve,
    Have you tried liver of sulfur?

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


>
> Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and 
> darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea 
> what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Thu May 17 14:46:02 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:46:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
Message-ID: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>

Well, my Wednesday Portland trip was a success.  Stopped in Avon, IN 
to pick up my engine and then out to Portland.  I think I forgot just 
how big the Portland Swap was.  I must have walked 6-7 miles total 
when it was all said and done.  Next year I might have to take a 
weeks vacation and stay a couple nights over there.

Aside from the 3hp IHC M that I picked up on the way, 2 other toys 
followed me home.  I picked up an old Swisher "Ride-King" 3-wheeled 
riding lawnmower.  I used it as a butt-buggy for about an hour, but 
it was too slow and I figure my fat @$$ needs the exercise 
anyway!  Sure did get some funny looks from people while I was riding 
it around.  Don't know if it was because of the weird looking mower, 
or maybe because I was wearing shorts and a T-shirt when everyone 
else had jackets on.  Wimps!

Also picked up a barn fresh 2 1/4 hp Economy model-S.  The Wico mag 
is gone, the piston skirt has a small break at the bottom and the 
head has a crack in it.  But other than that it looks like it's all 
there, and it even has some compression.  I'll try to get some 
pictures up soon.

C-ya...
Tony



From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 17 16:32:50 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
References: <215F9470-8E09-44E2-B808-3C636C89055F@rustyiron.com>
	<BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517183157.04f0f2f0@mail.alltel.net>

At 03:47 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:

>Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and 
>darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea what 
>will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve

Krylon bronze spray can?
         Dave 



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 19:41:50 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:41:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <464CCAC3.2080907@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>

Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used for? Is 
it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve


>From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
>
>Steve,
>     Have you tried liver of sulfur?
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
> >
> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
> > darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea
> > what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> >
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 19:43:25 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:43:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <017d01c798c6$0fdb5f10$8335c53e@doc>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F13F7F23365A0C2749085E795320@phx.gbl>

Thanks Pete, good info there. I'll have to experiment. Steve


>From: "Peter Scales" <peter at loud-n-clear.net>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:58:03 +0100
>
>There's some info here that may help -
>http://web2.ccpl.org/prvEmployees/HTML/scienceproject/OnlineExhibits/ncw/Gre
>enPatinaFinish.html
>
>Regards
>
>      Pete
>--
>Peter Scales
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> > Steve Royster
> > Sent: 17 May 2007 21:47
> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
> >
> >
> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to
> > quickly and darkly
> > age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any
> > idea what will
> > quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> >
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 19:45:56 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:45:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517183157.04f0f2f0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>

Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon would 
certainly be quick! Steve


>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:50 -0500
>
>At 03:47 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>
> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea 
>what
> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>
>Krylon bronze spray can?
>          Dave
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu May 17 19:48:08 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:48:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
Message-ID: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>



Hi guys
A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))

My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please. 
No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!

Peter, Oz

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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Thu May 17 20:12:19 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c12e91a831c65aa7f486f45dea4d8faa@chartertn.net>

Lime sulfur, which you can get at the farm and garden store, is close 
enough.

John

On May 17, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Steve Royster wrote:

> Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used 
> for? Is it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 17 20:39:17 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:39:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <464D1FE5.2020007@scrtc.com>

Steve,
    Go to this website and you'll get some info.  We used to use Liver 
of Sulphur on copper to give it a very aged look.  In this link they are 
using it on Sterling Silver I think.  You can order some directly from 
this site

http://www.cooltools.us/Liver-of-Sulphur-p/los.htm?gclid=CNu6_a_jlowCFQpMYQodtCVp4g

    Here's another site:

http://www.dickblick.com/zz605/05/

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



> Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used 
> for? Is it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve
>
>
>> From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list 
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
>>
>> Steve,
>>     Have you tried liver of sulfur?
>>
>> Tommy Turner
>> Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>> > darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea
>> > what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>> >
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From falcon at telenet.net  Thu May 17 21:51:29 2007
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:51:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <464D30D1.80903@telenet.net>



plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
> 
> Hi guys
> A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
> 
> My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
> and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please. 
> No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
> I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
> 
> Peter, Oz

A US model rear axle may not fit if it was not a direct US model. The 
Fords built in other countries sometimes used different suppliers.

-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri May 18 02:52:38 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:52:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
	<464D30D1.80903@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <002301c79932$44b20380$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Steve
OK on the different models, I was aware of this.
I will get more details from him tomorrow on model, year etc.
I need someone in Oz to help first.
The wreckers here are having trouble, there must be an old one laying around 
somewhere, although not common in Oz.
I was wondering whether the old Ambulances here were F250 V8's ????

Peter, Oz



>
> plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>> A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
>>
>> My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early 
>> model
>> and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help 
>> please.
>> No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
>> I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
>>
>> Peter, Oz
>
> A US model rear axle may not fit if it was not a direct US model. The
> Fords built in other countries sometimes used different suppliers.
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
> Near Cooperstown, New York
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri May 18 04:45:29 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 04:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <002301c79932$44b20380$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
	<464D30D1.80903@telenet.net> <002301c79932$44b20380$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <2118.165.206.180.53.1179488729.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

You'll need to know the axle number, as even among F250 V8's, they may
have different axles. I know when the front lockouts went south on mine,
there were at least 2, maybe 3 possible front axles on it and different
lockouts. (it's 4 wheel drive and the automatic hubs busted, like they
ALWAYS do)

In other words just because it's a 19xx or a 20xx model year F250 V8
doesn't mean the axles will interchange.

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> Hi Steve
> OK on the different models, I was aware of this.
> I will get more details from him tomorrow on model, year etc.
> I need someone in Oz to help first.
> The wreckers here are having trouble, there must be an old one laying
> around
> somewhere, although not common in Oz.
> I was wondering whether the old Ambulances here were F250 V8's ????
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>>
>> plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys
>>> A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
>>>
>>> My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early
>>> model
>>> and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help
>>> please.
>>> No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
>>> I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
>>>
>>> Peter, Oz
>>
>> A US model rear axle may not fit if it was not a direct US model. The
>> Fords built in other countries sometimes used different suppliers.
>>
>> --
>> Steve W.
>> Near Cooperstown, New York
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From plb at iinet.net.au  Fri May 18 02:57:44 2007
From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:57:44 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <002801c79932$fbb5aaf0$f32100d0$@net.au>

Peter, I would think the axle would be easily got from a wrecker. There are
heaps that specialise in F Truck parts. Its likely to be either a Ford 10
inch or a Dana axle. The dual and single axles are not interchangeable. I
had a 79 250 with a Dana and my 91 and 97 350's had Ford 10 inch.
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

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[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
plowe at exemail.com.au
Sent: Friday, 18 May 2007 10:48 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)



Hi guys
A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))

My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please. 
No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!

Peter, Oz

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From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri May 18 06:50:01 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:50:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517183157.04f0f2f0@mail.alltel.net>
	<BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070518084711.04f55450@mail.alltel.net>

Now you tell me!
         Dave
PS, Sulfur can be found on any periodic table/chart in the back of a 
chemistry book!

At 09:45 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon would 
>certainly be quick! Steve
>
>
>>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:50 -0500
>>
>>At 03:47 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>>
>> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea what
>> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>>
>>Krylon bronze spray can?
>>          Dave
>>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri May 18 07:11:33 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:11:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070518090808.04fa2678@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Peter,
         You will need to know the gear ratio (4:11, 3:73, etc.) as well as 
the truck model. This is epically true if it's a 4 wheel drive unit. There 
should be a tag on the differential giving you the information that you need.
         Dave


>Hi guys
>A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
>My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
>and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please.
>No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
>I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
>Peter, Oz



From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri May 18 07:50:47 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <464D1FE5.2020007@scrtc.com>
References: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
	<464D1FE5.2020007@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <3746.165.206.180.53.1179499847.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

EEEEwww! LIVER!
Perhaps liver and onions would work, too?
I think they have that at the Iowa State Fair, like "liver on a stick"

Want your parts to look aged?
Just ship it to CA and have them leave it outside for a day or two....

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


> Steve,
>     Go to this website and you'll get some info.  We used to use Liver
> of Sulphur on copper to give it a very aged look.  In this link they are
> using it on Sterling Silver I think.  You can order some directly from
> this site
>
> http://www.cooltools.us/Liver-of-Sulphur-p/los.htm?gclid=CNu6_a_jlowCFQpMYQodtCVp4g
>
>     Here's another site:
>
> http://www.dickblick.com/zz605/05/
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>> Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used
>> for? Is it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve
>>
>>
>>> From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>> Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
>>>
>>> Steve,
>>>     Have you tried liver of sulfur?
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
>>> Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>>> > darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea
>>> > what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>>> >
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Fri May 18 20:45:34 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:45:34 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>

Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can 
get rid of those horrid pictures of me!

http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92


--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From glenforge at hotmail.com  Fri May 18 22:23:15 2007
From: glenforge at hotmail.com (Peter Cumming)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:23:15 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB  liner
Message-ID: <BAY118-F28B11EADFC1C53CCE2E669B6310@phx.gbl>

Gday,

Does anyone know where I can find a Southern Cross YB cylinder liner (wet) 
even if it is a bit worn?

I've decided to replace the one in my newly restored YB as I discovered the 
clearance was way more than I had previously thought.


Peter Cumming
Wagin,
Western Australia
glenforge at hotmail.com

_________________________________________________________________
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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Sat May 19 02:48:29 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 17:48:29 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB  liner
References: <BAY118-F28B11EADFC1C53CCE2E669B6310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000f01c799fa$daef5460$f301a8c0@armstrong>

if you bore it out and fit a restoration sleeve you can rebore to suit the 
piston, try veales 0893663666 quote size of finished diameter

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Cumming" <glenforge at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB liner


> Gday,
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a Southern Cross YB cylinder liner (wet)
> even if it is a bit worn?
>
> I've decided to replace the one in my newly restored YB as I discovered 
> the
> clearance was way more than I had previously thought.
>
>
> Peter Cumming
> Wagin,
> Western Australia
> glenforge at hotmail.com
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Advertisement: 1000s of Sexy Singles online now at Lavalife - Click here
> http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D27782&_t=762255081&_r=lavalife_may07_1000sexysingles&_m=EXT
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat May 19 04:19:52 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 06:19:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070519061855.04f70b80@mail.alltel.net>

At 10:45 PM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
>Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
>get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>Tony Kimmell

Hi Tony, Well, you seem to be half right!
         Dave 



From edurand at mchsi.com  Sat May 19 04:56:10 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 06:56:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEJLFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Excellent whiteness on your web page!

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Tony &
> Jackie
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:46 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures
> 
> 
> Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now 
> gone!  Finally I can 
> get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
> 
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat May 19 06:52:25 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:52:25 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Tony
Is it still snowing in the USA, I am getting snow blindness from your new 
web page ;-))))))))))

Peter, Oz






> Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
> get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
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From plb at iinet.net.au  Sat May 19 07:59:17 2007
From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:59:17 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB  liner
In-Reply-To: <000f01c799fa$daef5460$f301a8c0@armstrong>
References: <BAY118-F28B11EADFC1C53CCE2E669B6310@phx.gbl>
	<000f01c799fa$daef5460$f301a8c0@armstrong>
Message-ID: <000b01c79a26$46510ca0$d2f325e0$@net.au>

If you want to bore it out and can't get it done locally I've done a number
of them. Let me know if you need to.
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of kevin
armstrong
Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2007 5:48 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Southern Cross YB liner

if you bore it out and fit a restoration sleeve you can rebore to suit the 
piston, try veales 0893663666 quote size of finished diameter

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Cumming" <glenforge at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB liner


> Gday,
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a Southern Cross YB cylinder liner (wet)
> even if it is a bit worn?
>
> I've decided to replace the one in my newly restored YB as I discovered 
> the
> clearance was way more than I had previously thought.
>
>
> Peter Cumming
> Wagin,
> Western Australia
> glenforge at hotmail.com
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Advertisement: 1000s of Sexy Singles online now at Lavalife - Click here
>
http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2E
au%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3D
en%5FAU%26a%3D27782&_t=762255081&_r=lavalife_may07_1000sexysingles&_m=EXT
>
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Sat May 19 07:32:06 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 09:32:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <0JIA006P2LQGCTLC@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

Man you guys sure are picky... ;-) I was just impressed with the fact 
that I still remember how to write HTML.  This was just a temporary 
page to plant my pics on for the time being.  I've changed the 
background for all those who don't like blizzards!

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat May 19 12:48:01 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 20:48:01 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JIA006P2LQGCTLC@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIA006P2LQGCTLC@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705191248h19a47f7cmc1c6873bc5c0b92a@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/05/07, Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net> wrote:
> Man you guys sure are picky... ;-) I was just impressed with the fact
> that I still remember how to write HTML.  This was just a temporary
> page to plant my pics on for the time being.  I've changed the
> background for all those who don't like blizzards!
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell

I suppose we could have a little 'administrator fun' here, but we'll
give Tony a chance to get sorted out first.... :-))

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 13:21:07 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <815967.18980.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Howdy Folks,
  A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))
   
  Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
  http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm
   
  A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs.  I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,
   
  It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
  The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right.  The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places.  Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.
   
  You ask which Sattley is it???
  Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
  Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
  This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
  It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
  The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel.  
  The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.
   
  The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
  He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
  He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))
   
  Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out.  Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,,  Let's see here,,,
  A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,
   
  That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 13:38:15 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:38:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <815967.18980.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <376716.53178.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
  Ron

Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 14:03:47 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:03:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <376716.53178.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <904906.10897.qm@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Here is a pic. or 5 of what I have and what I think you have.
  http://www.hit-miss.com/gallery/album16/sattley_optimized
  Ron
  
"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 14:08:49 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <376716.53178.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <297639.51217.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
  Do you know who made it?
  Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
  Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan
       
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 14:59:53 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <297639.51217.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <932390.68099.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

No I don't for sure. I think Rasine. Spelled wrong. Do a Google search for Sattley engine and there is some info there.
   
  Ron

Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
Do you know who made it?
Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Sat May 19 15:11:27 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 18:11:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <932390.68099.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c79a62$a5a9a720$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

I think Montgomery Wards sold them for a while, seems like I have seen them
in blue.

Paul Waugh

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From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ron Frost,
Kersey, PA
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:00 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.

No I don't for sure. I think Rasine. Spelled wrong. Do a Google search for
Sattley engine and there is some info there.
   
  Ron

Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
Do you know who made it?
Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some
45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for
them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to
give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see
below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The
green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this
engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he
bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872
under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole
governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to
make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing
the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see
here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice
sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 15:21:49 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <904906.10897.qm@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <281490.55757.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the pix, Ron
   
  I printed them out and showed them to my new engine.
  Mine has no V groove in the muffler side flywheel. It does have an 8" X 2-3/8" pulley on that side.
  Mine has no sub-base like yours has.  Is that aluminum or unpainted steel?
  Mine has a different model Wico mag.  It is bigger and has a different lead out.
  Mine doesn't have the gear cover like I think I see on your pix.
   
  The bore & stroke seems to be 3-5/8" X 4-1/2"
  I saw the holes where the engine tag belongs on top of the hopper.
  I need some kind of fuel tank. Right now all it has is a little B&S tank that looks kinda stupid.
   
  I was guessing the paint color is right because of all the nice pin stripping and decals.
  It makes me want to cry that whoever last painted this engine didn't prep it right.
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    Here is a pic. or 5 of what I have and what I think you have.
  
http://www.hit-miss.com/gallery/album16/sattley_optimized
  
Ron

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 15:24:13 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <003f01c79a62$a5a9a720$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <102069.97242.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Montgomery wards did for sure. The name was Raciene Sattley. Still can't spell Raciene.
  Ron

Paul <pwaugh at mchsi.com> wrote:
  I think Montgomery Wards sold them for a while, seems like I have seen them
in blue.

Paul Waugh

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From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ron Frost,
Kersey, PA
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:00 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.

No I don't for sure. I think Rasine. Spelled wrong. Do a Google search for
Sattley engine and there is some info there.

Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
Do you know who made it?
Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some
45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for
them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to
give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see
below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The
green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this
engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he
bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872
under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole
governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to
make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing
the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see
here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice
sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sat May 19 17:33:14 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 20:33:14 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
Message-ID: <c18.12d8bf23.3380f14a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/19/2007 3:29:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ron217_2000 at yahoo.com writes:

Montgomery wards did for sure. 


Hi,
 
I have 2 Sattleys  made for Montgomery Ward.  One (1? HP)  is throttle 
controlled and the other (1? HP) is "hit - miss".  The  throttle controlled one has 
a kerosene mixer on it.  Neither have a sub  base.   Both have Wico EKs.  
These are easy starting  engines.
Both need paint - neither have any original paint.
I have seen other Sattleys and I have yet to see two that look  alike.  

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From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Sun May 20 09:25:13 2007
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:25:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!
Message-ID: <000901c79afb$723b34a0$0201a8c0@b21a5>

I got my Taylor Vacuum Engine running!!!   My club had a crank-up two
Sundays ago, and I brought the Taylor.  I asked for help figuring out my
timing problem- that no matter what I did, the start/retard lever always had
WAY too much of an effect.  We solved the prob, and got it running nicely!
I can start it on the first pull now!  :D

Here's the KEY piece of advice:  the Wico retard/advance lever never works
right!  Just set it to "run" (down), time the engine so it works with that
setting, then forget about using it, "we all do it that way".  Ha!  I
would've had it running a year ago if I'd known that!!
Mucho thanks to the Pioneer Gas Engine guys who helped me!

I have a 15 second digital video of its first run at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/images/TaylorFirstRunOK.avi .  The
file is about 2MB in size.

You can see the blue tape on the flywheel flash by that I was using to time
it.  Using VirtualDub video editting software, I viewed this video
frame-by-frame to count the revolutions, and the engine's doing 368 RPM
here.  The engine is rated at 450 RPM, so we indeed have slowed it down a
bit.

-Rick I.
The full story's at:  Rick's Taylor Vacuum Engine web site:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 13:10:39 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <c18.12d8bf23.3380f14a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <910169.77543.qm@web37311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know if there is a serial number stamped on the engine.
  It would be great to find one because my New Sattley is missing it's tag from the top of the hopper.
   
  Thanks,
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

 
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 13:42:28 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!
In-Reply-To: <000901c79afb$723b34a0$0201a8c0@b21a5>
Message-ID: <428125.94874.qm@web37312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Very nice video, Rick !!
   
  Another case of, "Never Say Never."

  My 1928 Hercules S is a 1 3/4hp H&M with a Wico EK.
  When I forget to flip that retard lever up it reminds me by kicking hard as I pull it over.
  Flip the lever up and start the engine.
  Flip it back down and she picks up a little attitude.
  I use this engine to power my two hole corn sheller.
  It's gov. spring is a wimp compared to the very stiff one I removed.
  My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.
  This engine will run with the lever up or down.
  It starts better with it up and runs better with it down.
   
  Yes, I could set my engine like you say and slow it way down. 
  That wouldn't run my sheller too good though. 8>))
   
  When I first started this barn fresh engine with that stiff spring it was a raging beast. 
  The whole thing jumped into the air every time it fired and it hardly ever locked out. 
  The challenge was shutting it down.  
  There was no way to hold in that kill button on the Wico.  
  I had to take several swipes at it to shut down the mixer needle.
  A nice weak spring and a little adjustment of the lockout parts and 15 minutes later I had a very nice running engine.
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
   
  
"Rick I." <rdi at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
    I got my Taylor Vacuum Engine running!!! My club had a crank-up two
Sundays ago, and I brought the Taylor. I asked for help figuring out my
timing problem- that no matter what I did, the start/retard lever always had
WAY too much of an effect. We solved the prob, and got it running nicely!
I can start it on the first pull now! :D

Here's the KEY piece of advice: the Wico retard/advance lever never works
right! Just set it to "run" (down), time the engine so it works with that
setting, then forget about using it, "we all do it that way". Ha! I
would've had it running a year ago if I'd known that!!
Mucho thanks to the Pioneer Gas Engine guys who helped me!
  I have a 15 second digital video of its first run at:
  http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/images/TaylorFirstRunOK.avi
   
  The file is about 2MB in size.

You can see the blue tape on the flywheel flash by that I was using to time
it. Using VirtualDub video editting software, I viewed this video
frame-by-frame to count the revolutions, and the engine's doing 368 RPM
here. The engine is rated at 450 RPM, so we indeed have slowed it down a
bit.

-Rick I.
The full story's at: Rick's Taylor Vacuum Engine web site:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/
   

       
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sun May 20 14:02:38 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 17:02:38 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
Message-ID: <c5a.111c59c3.3382116e@aol.com>

Alan, 
Here is interesting correspondence on Sattleys  which can be found on 
SmokStak.
 
< _http://www.smokstak.com/forum/search.php?searchid=395203_ 
(http://www.smokstak.com/forum/search.php?searchid=395203)  >   



Francis Maciel
Santa Maria,  Ca



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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May 20 15:27:11 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:27:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
Message-ID: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi all
Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm

If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the index.htm 
page

Peter, Oz 



From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Sun May 20 15:48:40 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 23:48:40 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <01ac01c79b31$032f4200$8335c53e@doc>

'Tis white for me too.  Using IE6.  If I do a 'view source' I can see that
there was intended to be a page there, but I haven't been able  to spot any
glaring mistakes - too close to my bedtime....

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Lowe
> Sent: 20 May 2007 23:27
> To: ATIS; Oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
> 
> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
> 
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not 
> the index.htm 
> page
> 
> Peter, Oz 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From reb1952 at bellsouth.net  Sun May 20 16:30:27 2007
From: reb1952 at bellsouth.net (Dickie)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:30:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
References: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>

Just a blank page at my house.

Dick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site


> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
>
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the index.htm
> page
>
> Peter, Oz
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun May 20 17:18:29 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 17:18:29 -0700
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>


>> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any  
>> idea what
>> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve

>> Krylon bronze spray can?
>>          Dave

> Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon  
> would certainly be quick! Steve


Back in the non-PC days, we used to call silver spray paint "Mexican  
Chrome."
Now we can start calling brown spray paint "Pittsburg Patina."

Rob




From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Sun May 20 17:23:04 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:23:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
Message-ID: <004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

Works for me
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dickie
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:30 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site

Just a blank page at my house.

Dick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site


> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
>
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the index.htm
> page
>
> Peter, Oz
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun May 20 17:56:04 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:56:04 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
Message-ID: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Some pics from the weekend:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun May 20 17:31:19 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:31:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>
References: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
	<519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070520193030.04aa9340@mail.alltel.net>


> >> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
> >> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any
> >> idea what
> >> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> >> Krylon bronze spray can?
> >>          Dave
> > Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon
> > would certainly be quick! Steve
>Back in the non-PC days, we used to call silver spray paint "Mexican
>Chrome."
>Now we can start calling brown spray paint "Pittsburg Patina."
>Rob

NOT "brown" Rob, BRONZE!
         Dave 



From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Sun May 20 23:07:24 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:07:24 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <01d801c79b6e$4d3e8800$8335c53e@doc>

Thanks, Patrick - looks as though it had been a bit damp?

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Sent: 21 May 2007 01:56
> To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List
> Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
> 
> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
> 
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sun May 20 23:34:05 2007
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:34:05 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
References: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001501c79b72$08ba1ba0$e5c30b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally


> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW

Thanks for the pictures Patrick.
I notice that the Buzacott 2A and Champion 2A look like copies of a Fuller and Johnson NB,
Are they made by the same firm?
PS I like the Aussie version of a motorcycle stand at
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay07/ca507034.JPG
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv 



From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Mon May 21 00:58:07 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:58:07 +1200
Subject: [SEL]  bead blasting valve stems
Message-ID: <000101c79b7d$c5304240$0301a8c0@tamatea1>

The first method is to mount the valve in a drill and press emery paper onto
the carbon deposits while the valve is spinning be careful on tapered edge
of valve most of the carbon is underneath the valve or on top the carbon on
top can be scraped off carefully with a blunt screwdriver i use the emery on
the carbon underneath as you can damage if you try to scrape the carbon off
add some kerosine as a lubricant as can get quite hot it also helps soften
the carbon..

 

 

These are ideas written in a 1917 car repair book.

 

Carbon can be manually removed by blunt scrapers screwdrivers with the shape
edges removed need to gain access to do this by removing head etc.

 

Carbon can be removed with an oxygen flame by burning it off.

 

Carbon can be softened ie soaking valves in a solution prior to cleaning can
be softened by kerosine,wood alcohol acetone or other carbon solvents

 

 In the book it read: a simple preventative of carbon deposits is to put a
tablespoon full of kerosine in each cylinder through the compression relief
cocks at the end of a days run while the engine is still hot.This softens up
the carbon over night and when the moter is started the next day a large
proportion of the carbon deposited the previous day will be blown out with
the exhaust gases.

 

Hope that helps brent nz




From fsouthwell at googlemail.com  Mon May 21 01:31:14 2007
From: fsouthwell at googlemail.com (Fred Southwell)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:31:14 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
	<004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>

Works for me using Firefox.

On 21/05/07, Paul <pwaugh at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> Works for me
> Paul Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dickie
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:30 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>
> Just a blank page at my house.
>
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org"
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>
>
> > Hi all
> > Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
> >
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
> >
> > If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the
> index.htm
> > page
> >
> > Peter, Oz
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



-- 
Fred. Nr Brighton U.K.
See all my pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/g6zru



From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Mon May 21 01:45:43 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 20:45:43 +1200
Subject: [SEL]  shearing plant questions/answers please
Message-ID: <000a01c79b84$6bd04c70$0301a8c0@tamatea1>

I had some problems with the head bolts on my wolseley moter some also broke
as well the metal seemed very soft wondered is this metal fatigue or maybe
hydrogen embrittlement i spoke to another guy regarding stud bolts on a ford
prefect 1951 4 cyl flat head cast engine it had the same problem with the
studs snapping as they get soft and the head couldnt be torque down to the
correct settings as studs would snap only option was to replace the head
bolts for new ones problem then solved. brent nz 




From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Mon May 21 01:56:22 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:56:22 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <01e501c79b85$e84414c0$8335c53e@doc>

Had a chance to look at it properly - the closing tag for <title> is given
as <title> instead of </title> (3rd line) - this is breaking IE6 and my
HomeSite 5 built-in browser.  If Tony fixes that, it will work fine in IE6.

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Lowe
> Sent: 20 May 2007 23:27
> To: ATIS; Oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
> 
> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
> 
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not 
> the index.htm 
> page
> 
> Peter, Oz 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From brock at netspeed.com.au  Mon May 21 02:29:19 2007
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:29:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
Message-ID: <4651666f.9e.1135.1449823346@netspeed.com.au>

thanks for the pics patrick 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Stationary Engine
Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:56:04 +1000

> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon May 21 04:21:12 2007
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:21:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
References: <4651666f.9e.1135.1449823346@netspeed.com.au>
Message-ID: <001c01c79b9a$262a6550$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Enjoyed the photo's.Thanks Patrick, 

 Some pics from the weekend:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
 
 
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>


From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Mon May 21 04:54:31 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:54:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

Looks like a fun week end, thanks for pictures
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick M
Livingstone
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:56 PM
To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally

Some pics from the weekend:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

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From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon May 21 04:59:21 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 04:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
	<004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Apparently FF ignores the issue with the title closing tag, IE, OTOH, does
not.
Funny, IE is the browser where people get their pages to work BASED ON
BUGS in IE!

Go Micky-Soft!

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> Works for me using Firefox.
>
> On 21/05/07, Paul <pwaugh at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Works for me
>> Paul Waugh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dickie
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:30 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>>
>> Just a blank page at my house.
>>
>> Dick
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org"
>> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>>
>>
>> > Hi all
>> > Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
>> >
>> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
>> >
>> > If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the
>> index.htm
>> > page
>> >
>> > Peter, Oz
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> >
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Fred. Nr Brighton U.K.
> See all my pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/g6zru
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon May 21 05:17:18 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:17:18 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <001501c79b72$08ba1ba0$e5c30b52@no1>
Message-ID: <20070521121627.QKYZ26028.oaamta08ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Dave. The engines are a copy of the 1.5hp F&J N re-rated to 2hp; they
even use the same parts numbers! The Australian copies were made by Rosebery
Engine Works in Sydney and were sold under many different names including:
Buzacott, Champion, Rosebery, New Record, The Engine and many others.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----


Thanks for the pictures Patrick.
I notice that the Buzacott 2A and Champion 2A look like copies of a Fuller
and Johnson NB,
Are they made by the same firm?
PS I like the Aussie version of a motorcycle stand at
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay07/ca507034.JPG
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv 





From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon May 21 05:28:52 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:28:52 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Odd Unidentified Engine
In-Reply-To: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070521082508.02e958c0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Does anyone have a clue as to what this little engine is? Fellow I know 
just got it and asked me what it is but Its totally unfamiliar to me.    Mark

http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/oddengine.jpg



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
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#330.475.4450 Christine 




From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Mon May 21 06:17:07 2007
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:17:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <281490.55757.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY129-F284D1CE0029779CF331287C8370@phx.gbl>

Alan,

Your mag looks like a Wico PR mag.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA

=================

>From: Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
>
>   Mine has a different model Wico mag.  It is bigger and has a different 
>lead out.
>
>   Alan Bowen
>   Williamsburg, Michigan
>

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From curt at imc-group.com  Mon May 21 07:18:07 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:18:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>

Patrick,
Ya know, you are seriously under appreciated! Your unbelievable 
dedication to bringing us all phenomenal, almost weekly, show pictures 
complete with engine information is second to none. It is a true joy to 
come to work on Monday morning knowing there will almost always be a new 
webpage waiting to be enjoyed by all. This morning's example is no 
exception. WOW what great photos and a few surprises too. How about the 
little Ducati general purpose engines. Is this the same Ducati as the 
bike maker? What a neat little engine!
The Alfa Laval lighting plant, what a neat piece!
I really enjoyed the steamer pulling the spectator cart with. And it 
looks like the steamer saved the day with the big Tangye.
Again, that you so much for your dedication and hard work so that we may 
all enjoy your shows world wide. We really do appreciate it!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC USA
>
> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>   



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon May 21 10:45:56 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:45:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>
References: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Patrick,

I really got a kick out of the tale of the Fowler traction engine rescuing
the stuck 10 hp Tangye!!  Great stuff!!  But one thing does have me
confused.  I thought you lot were in a decades long drought?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay073.html

See ya, Arnie

> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> Patrick M Livingstone



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon May 21 10:54:32 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:54:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070521125055.04a3b1e8@mail.alltel.net>

Anyone who puts that size wheels under a 10hp Tangye deserved to STAY stuck 
in the mud!
         Dave
PS, LUCKY thing the bloke had good mates there!


At 12:45 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote:
>G'day Patrick,
>
>I really got a kick out of the tale of the Fowler traction engine rescuing
>the stuck 10 hp Tangye!!  Great stuff!!  But one thing does have me
>confused.  I thought you lot were in a decades long drought?
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay073.html
>
>See ya, Arnie
>
> > Some pics from the weekend:
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> > Patrick M Livingstone
>
>_______________________________________________
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 21 13:54:18 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:54:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
Message-ID: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.  

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon May 21 14:14:09 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:14:09 EDT
Subject: [SEL] My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!
Message-ID: <bcf.1560da77.338365a1@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/20/2007 4:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes:

My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.

 
 
Same here!  We run the hay baler with my 6hp International M at our show 
every year.  Lever down to retard and start, lever up to run and she purrs like a 
kitten!
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From jdohagan at comcast.net  Mon May 21 14:14:21 2007
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:14:21 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
In-Reply-To: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <20070521211425.6316C4C305E@mx-in03.iad.mail-abuse.org>

Hi, Ron Thanks for the pictures of the Great show! Anton did Good! CYA,
Jimmy O'Hagan

Jim O'Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:54 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show

Hi all.
This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.  

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Mon May 21 15:03:12 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
In-Reply-To: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000501c79bf3$d329f910$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

GREAT!!  And looks like most people could camp next or close to their
displays .. was there much public touring??

Paul Waugh, got to get mine going!

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:54 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show

Hi all.
This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.  

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon May 21 16:08:50 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:08:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
In-Reply-To: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEMDFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Ron:

All's I can say is WOW!   And thanks for posting the pics.

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 03:54 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; 
> stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
> 
> 
> Hi all.
> This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold 
> engine show for
> California only engines was held in Bakersfield 
> CA.  More than 80 engines
> were displayed, several were the only examples 
> known to exist.  I have 85
> pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just 
> starting to be placed, so
> look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list 
> members displayed.  
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=30093
> 70&a=32528406&f=
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon May 21 15:11:41 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:11:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070520193030.04aa9340@mail.alltel.net>
References: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
	<519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070520193030.04aa9340@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <2f4782fdfff4c08e46b2386d6ae83e39@chartertn.net>


On May 20, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> NOT "brown" Rob, BRONZE!
>          Dave

Most of the "bronze beauties" I've seen on the beach actually looked 
brown.

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 21 15:43:19 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:43:19 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
Message-ID: <20070521.154320.1852.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Paul.  The public was not invited, private show for California engines
only.  Notice no ropes, no rules, just fun.  Can't wait for next year,
possibly North of Santa Cruz in the Redwoods.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:12 -0400 "Paul" <pwaugh at mchsi.com> writes:
> GREAT!!  And looks like most people could camp next or close to 
> their
> displays .. was there much public touring??
> 
> Paul Waugh, got to get mine going!


From b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au  Mon May 21 15:44:39 2007
From: b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au (B Erickson)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:44:39 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE (clearance sale)
Message-ID: <290413.7159.qm@web57513.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Mon May 21 16:40:55 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:40:55 EDT
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
Message-ID: <d3e.9a73c92.33838807@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/21/2007 2:00:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rdhaskell at juno.com writes:

This  past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California  only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were  displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have  85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed,  so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members  displayed.


Ron,
Thanks for sharing.  

Francis Maciel
Santa Maria,  Ca




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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 21 17:02:15 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:02:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
References: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00e201c79c04$76691970$240110ac@FAMILY>

WOW Ron, what a bunch of unique engines. It was a joy to look at them, 
thanks so much for taking them and posting them for all of us to see.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show


> Hi all.
> This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
> California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
> were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
> pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
> look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.
>
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=
>
> Ron Haskell




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon May 21 19:26:22 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:26:22 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Spam/Phish> RE:  Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20070522022537.WNDS15903.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

If you want to break the drought hold a few engine rallies! There was heavy
rain across much of the state late last week. Not enough to break the
drought but enough to make the farmers smile a little and to fill all the
water tanks. 
Cambelltown is not too far from the coast so it tends to get enough rain
through the year. The downpours at the end of last week just made the ground
really, really soft.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

G'day Patrick,

I really got a kick out of the tale of the Fowler traction engine rescuing
the stuck 10 hp Tangye!!  Great stuff!!  But one thing does have me
confused.  I thought you lot were in a decades long drought?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay073.html

See ya, Arnie

> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> Patrick M Livingstone





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 21 20:20:34 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 23:20:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what engine is it?
Message-ID: <380-22007522232034384@M2W016.mail2web.com>

What engine is this ?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ330122795657QQihZ014QQcate
goryZ31252QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Peter, Oz

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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 21 20:53:19 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 20:53:19 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold
Message-ID: <20070521.205319.1852.8.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.  Captions are as complete as I can get now, if you know of errors
or additional information it would be appreciated.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Mon May 21 21:57:49 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Odd Unidentified Engine
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20070521082508.02e958c0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <585867.1880.qm@web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark

Looks like one of the unknown engines that sold on Saturday at the auction
in North, VA.  I took a photo of it on Friday when I was looking the
engines over.  Auction report is currently being worked on.  Should be
done tomorrow....Photos will be posted then.

Steve
--- Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a clue as to what this little engine is? Fellow I know 
> just got it and asked me what it is but Its totally unfamiliar to me.   
> Mark
> 
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/oddengine.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
> 
> Home #419.358.5206
> Verizon Cell
> #419.516.2996 Mark
> #330.475.4450 Christine 
> 
> 
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Mon May 21 17:20:07 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:20:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engine s.com>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
	<004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>
	<1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>

Okay... guess I won't be using FireFox to proof my website's 
anymore.  When you view the code on FireFox, it FIXES the mistakes in 
the HTML for you!  I had to go back into my original .txt file to 
find and fix that /title tag and re-upload it.

Although I DID start using FireFox because it was way better than 
IE... guess it's just TOO good.

Anyway... all you guys on IE try it again and let me know if it works 
now.  Crikey...

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Mon May 21 23:05:26 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:05:26 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads><004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew><3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com><1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <029e01c79c37$32004000$8335c53e@doc>

Hi Tony

Working for me now - IE6.  Good-looking daughter you have :-)

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Tony & Jackie
> Sent: 22 May 2007 01:20
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
> 
> Okay... guess I won't be using FireFox to proof my website's 
> anymore.  When you view the code on FireFox, it FIXES the mistakes in 
> the HTML for you!  I had to go back into my original .txt file to 
> find and fix that /title tag and re-upload it.
> 
> Although I DID start using FireFox because it was way better than 
> IE... guess it's just TOO good.
> 
> Anyway... all you guys on IE try it again and let me know if it works 
> now.  Crikey...
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May 22 00:08:57 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:08:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads><004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew><3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com><1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <033b01c79c40$125f6470$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Ya might like to add your site to your signature?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site


> Okay... guess I won't be using FireFox to proof my website's 
> anymore.  When you view the code on FireFox, it FIXES the mistakes in 
> the HTML for you!  I had to go back into my original .txt file to 
> find and fix that /title tag and re-upload it.
> 
> Although I DID start using FireFox because it was way better than 
> IE... guess it's just TOO good.
> 
> Anyway... all you guys on IE try it again and let me know if it works 
> now.  Crikey...
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
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From ozhornsby at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 03:34:20 2007
From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
Message-ID: <773061.16520.qm@web35410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

G'Day B Erickson

Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
interesting"
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
 
you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
don't come as you have had a theft while not home.

It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
total pages stolen from my web site, the following
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
 has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
can use my Photos if credit is given.
also
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
MY PAGES including photos Immediately
I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
on that.
Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
don't understand stealing unless it is from you

Original pages can be found as part of
http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/

Kerry Morris
Lithgow NSW OZ

PS. This topic has been around before with other
peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
Rant Over.




       
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From astfgl at iamnota.org  Tue May 22 03:38:32 2007
From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:38:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
Message-ID: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>

Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.

Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
hopper with a fair amount of rust.

There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.

Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
0.840".

I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
than what I have here.

Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.

Thanks, glen.
(Townsville, Australia)


From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Tue May 22 04:12:52 2007
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:12:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <4652D034.1060104@steamengine.com.au>

Google failed you because you searched for Buzacott - if you searched 
for Rosebery you would have found my pages :)

The Buzacott is a Rosebery in disguise.

The plug you want is Champion 25 18mm tapered "copper plus" marine 
engine plug - they fit reasonably well. The thread isn't exact but it 
works. You can still get the right plug from a specialist supplier (at 
an engine show generally - go find Rally Badges or someone like that).

Regards
Paul

Glen Harris wrote:
> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.
>
> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
>
> There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
> condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.
>
> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
> 0.840".
>
> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
> than what I have here.
>
> Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.
>
> Thanks, glen.
> (Townsville, Australia)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>   



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 04:21:41 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 04:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello, Glen,
   
  Welcome to the SEL.
   
  What you seem to have there are a couple old plugs that are 1/2" pipe thread.
  Not 1/2" in size.  Big difference there.  8>))
  I am not sure where you can get replacements in Austrailia.
  Probably most any auto parts store. Just carry one in and look for someone that has been there a while.
   
  I buy mine from here.
  http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm
   
  Usually I just buy the AUTOLITE SPARKPLUG 1/2"NPT #3095 --$2.99 each
   
  I do have several of these plugs also found on that page.
  $25.95--- X----Authentic old style package and construction 1/2"NPT 
take apart two piece plug(black finish and brass top hat)
   
  The take-apart plugs are great. Just open them up to clean them.
  

  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
  

   
  

Glen Harris <astfgl at iamnota.org> wrote:
  Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.

Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
hopper with a fair amount of rust.

There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.

Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
0.840".

I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
than what I have here.

Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.

Thanks, glen.
(Townsville, Australia)
 
---------------------------------
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Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.


From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue May 22 05:31:43 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:31:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAENAFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Glen:

Welcome to the list!

I think you've got a common (for it's time) "Model T" spark plug - after the car which used them.

The thread is standard one-half inch pipe thread.

It's available new from at least two manufacturers, Champion and Autolite.  In the U.S. they can be gotten (usually on order) from major auto parts stores.

As a side note.......Most of these engines don't care what brand or heat range of plug they have as long as it's good enough to produce a spark under compression.  Just stick a good plug in it and you'll be fine.

Take care - Elden DuRand
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Glen Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 05:39 AM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
> 
> 
> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I 
> apologize if my 
> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and 
> Google has failed me.
> 
> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP 
> engines. His is an 
> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, 
> while mine has a 
> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
> 
> There's a long way to go before either is 
> anywhere near running 
> condition, but one thing we have both done is 
> take the spark plugs out 
> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty 
> ones for him.
> 
> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 
> 0.805" to 0.840" major 
> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison 
> Albanitum 14-S and mine 
> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I 
> can find is NPT 14tpi 
> 0.840".
> 
> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at 
> all, and the A-25 is 
> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line 
> references, which is way smaller 
> than what I have here.
> 
> Can some bright spark please shed some light on 
> these plugs.
> 
> Thanks, glen.
> (Townsville, Australia)




From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Tue May 22 04:53:56 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 23:53:56 +1200
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
	<269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79c67$e13d6450$0301a8c0@tamatea1>

Alan thats a good suggestion if its old spark plug you are wanting apart
from your local auto dealers is there any vintage car clubs over here there
are boxs full of old split type spark plugs at the local vintage car club
could be worth a look.I love looking through all the old vintage gear there
are old stationary moters as well sometimes brent nz 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bowen
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:22 p.m.
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member

Hello, Glen,
   
  Welcome to the SEL.
   
  What you seem to have there are a couple old plugs that are 1/2" pipe
thread.
  Not 1/2" in size.  Big difference there.  8>))
  I am not sure where you can get replacements in Austrailia.
  Probably most any auto parts store. Just carry one in and look for someone
that has been there a while.
   
  I buy mine from here.
  http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm
   
  Usually I just buy the AUTOLITE SPARKPLUG 1/2"NPT #3095 --$2.99 each
   
  I do have several of these plugs also found on that page.
  $25.95--- X----Authentic old style package and construction 1/2"NPT 
take apart two piece plug(black finish and brass top hat)
   
  The take-apart plugs are great. Just open them up to clean them.
  

  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
  

   
  

Glen Harris <astfgl at iamnota.org> wrote:
  Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.

Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
hopper with a fair amount of rust.

There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.

Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
0.840".

I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
than what I have here.

Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.

Thanks, glen.
(Townsville, Australia)
 
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From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Tue May 22 05:05:44 2007
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:05:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4652DC98.1070007@steamengine.com.au>

Hi Alan, unless you find someone with some new-old-stock you aren't very 
likely to find this plug at an autodealer.

The Rosebery/Buzacott also have a tapered thread - it isn't pipe thread. 
The Champion 25 W18 and the Champion 525 Copper Marine Plug are good 
choices.

I use the 525 as they never seem to die.

Both will cost you about AU$20 ea.

Regards
Paul

Alan Bowen wrote:
>   What you seem to have there are a couple old plugs that are 1/2" pipe thread.
>   Not 1/2" in size.  Big difference there.  8>))
>   I am not sure where you can get replacements in Austrailia.
>   Probably most any auto parts store. Just carry one in and look for someone that has been there a while.
>    
>  



From brock at netspeed.com.au  Tue May 22 05:48:03 2007
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:48:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
Message-ID: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>

G,day Kerry  
I found something else that i knew i  have seen else where
check link 
http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint208.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: Kerry Morris <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)

> G'Day B Erickson
> 
> Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
> interesting"
> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
>  
> you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
> don't come as you have had a theft while not home.
> 
> It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
> total pages stolen from my web site, the following
>
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
>  has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
> Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
> can use my Photos if credit is given.
> also
>
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
> you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
> my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
> the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
> As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
> your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
> MY PAGES including photos Immediately
> I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
> Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
> on that.
> Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
> don't understand stealing unless it is from you
> 
> Original pages can be found as part of
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
> 
> Kerry Morris
> Lithgow NSW OZ
> 
> PS. This topic has been around before with other
> peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
> ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
> lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
> Rant Over.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>        
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May 22 06:56:22 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 23:56:22 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Tony
Just a thought, your photos are way too large a file size for those on 
dialup, they are just under 1Mb each, they need to be 1/10th that size

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm





> Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
> get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May 22 07:07:17 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 00:07:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] R&V ignitor wanted ASAP
Message-ID: <005301c79c7a$81c4f3e0$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi all
Who would make ignitors for the SR 2hp series R&V engines in the USA.

I have a register member who needs an ignitor ASAP so he can get his engine 
ready for the Aussie National Rally.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From andyglines at hotmail.com  Tue May 22 07:15:02 2007
From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:15:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Good Work night!
Message-ID: <BAY141-F13AF9DD86485A52CF416E6C7360@phx.gbl>

We had a big work night at the SIAM club.  Many of you know that we have 
been working on a permanent foundation for our Venn Severin diesel engine 
for about 3 years.  The foundation was poured last winter and last night a 
volunteer loader and operator appeared to move the engine from its trailer 
to the new foundation.  You have to be extra careful when handling 12,000 lb 
of old iron.  We had a great crew and there were ni big problems.  While the 
installation will not be complete, we hope to run the engine at the Classic 
Iron show in Evansville, IN on June 8-10.

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May 22 07:58:34 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:58:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
Message-ID: <20070522.105858.912.3.jlb94@juno.com>

Thanks for mentioning that Pete,

I found out early in the game to reduce the size of my pictures when
posting them on a web site.

I usually resize mine to 500 x 700.  This way they still get posted
rather fast with "dial-up".

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue May 22 08:40:30 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:40:30 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
References: <891F10D2-CA44-4A91-A4F0-E5FDDF41BDA2@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <348117D8-33C1-44EC-A1FF-2D4E630FAC31@rustyiron.com>


Hello b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au,

It has come to my attention that you have created a web page from  
material that was stolen from my web page.  Your entire section on  
Ronaldson & Tippett is copyrighted intellectual property owned by  
me.  I demand that you remove everything  immediately.

My tolerance of theft is small.  I understand that this might have  
been an inadvertent mistake on your part, so I am willing to offer  
you a limited license to use my work on your MSN web page.

If you wish to license my work, the cost will be $250 US per image  
per year and $250 US per year for the text.  I can offer a discount  
if you wish to enter into a multi-year licensing agreement.

Before I can agree on licensing, the current web page must be removed  
immediately.

Rob Skinner
La Habra, California
www.rustyiron.com




From bill at antique-engines.com  Tue May 22 13:37:19 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 13:37:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
In-Reply-To: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>
References: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>
Message-ID: <2653.165.206.180.53.1179866239.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Right-click on some of the images, he's actually hijacking the bandwidth
by linking to the photos where they sit.
Not very kind! That could throw some folks over their bandwidth threshold.

I went to "his" tractor page and did a few right-clicks/properties and
came up with the likes of:

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/a208_2.jpg

At least if you're gonna steal, move it to your own server and take all of
it.

The engines for sale........ clear titles, correct?


Bill
*urls with-held! for fear of bandwidth hi-jacking*


> G,day Kerry
> I found something else that i knew i  have seen else where
> check link
> http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint208.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kerry Morris <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>> G'Day B Erickson
>>
>> Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
>> interesting"
>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
>>
>> you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
>> don't come as you have had a theft while not home.
>>
>> It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
>> total pages stolen from my web site, the following
>>
> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
>>  has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
>> Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
>> can use my Photos if credit is given.
>> also
>>
> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
>> you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
>> my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
>> the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
>> As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
>> your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
>> MY PAGES including photos Immediately
>> I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
>> Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
>> on that.
>> Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
>> don't understand stealing unless it is from you
>>
>> Original pages can be found as part of
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>>
>> Kerry Morris
>> Lithgow NSW OZ
>>
>> PS. This topic has been around before with other
>> peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
>> ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
>> lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
>> Rant Over.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>> __________________________Take the Internet to Go:
>> Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news,
>> photos & more.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From astfgl at iamnota.org  Tue May 22 14:21:46 2007
From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 07:21:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <46535EEA.7030500@iamnota.org>

Wow, what a response! Thanks everyone, all that info's really been a 
great help to us both. With the options you've given us, we should have 
no problems. BTW, my plug is a separable type, I'll have a go a pulling 
it apart tonight.

Cheers, glen.


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue May 22 15:45:05 2007
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 06:45:05 +0800
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <000e01c79cc2$dbc137d0$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

Glen ,either make or get some to do it for you, an adaptor to screw into 
your 18 mm plug hole.It is then tapped to take 14 mm. The latter size plugs 
you will get for no cost at your local tune up centre....they throw them out 
.As some one said these old engines will run on just about any plug.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Harris" <astfgl at iamnota.org>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member


> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my
> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.
>
> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an
> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a
> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
>
> There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running
> condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out
> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.
>
> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major
> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine
> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi
> 0.840".
>
> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is
> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller
> than what I have here.
>
> Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.
>
> Thanks, glen.
> (Townsville, Australia)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue May 22 20:30:15 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:30:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
Message-ID: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007





From wayne at lorenssanitation.com  Tue May 22 21:00:38 2007
From: wayne at lorenssanitation.com (Wayne Thackery)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:00:38 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
References: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c79cee$ee5adc30$020ba8c0@Waynexp>

Greetings Rob,

Thanks for the pictures and sorry I didn't make it this year. Seen some
familiar faces from back East showed up. Looks like you had a great turn out
and some awesome engines came out of hiding. Anton has a great collection
all by himself!

Wayne A Thackery
Keizer, Oregon 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 PM
To: SEL ATIS; Oldengine.org Engine; WAPA-Members
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007



_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue May 22 21:17:11 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <000d01c79cee$ee5adc30$020ba8c0@Waynexp>
References: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
	<000d01c79cee$ee5adc30$020ba8c0@Waynexp>
Message-ID: <9AF582F8-06DC-4D53-A5A9-696ADB6E7756@rustyiron.com>

> Thanks for the pictures and sorry I didn't make it this year.

Hi Wayne,
Sorry we didn't get to see you this time, but I understand how it's  
not possible to attend EVERY event... or if it is, I haven't yet  
figured out the secret.

Rob





From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Tue May 22 21:28:01 2007
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 00:28:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever
References: <mailman.3.1179849602.8272.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <004901c79cf2$c01d1aa0$0201a8c0@b21a5>

In my thread "My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!"

rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes:
>My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.
Germoamer at aol.com
>Same here!  We run the hay baler with my 6hp International M at our show
>every year.  Lever down to retard and start, lever up to run and she purrs
like a
>kitten!

Well, it looks like it's supposed to work then!

Any ideas why my advance lever doesn't work properly?  I have a Wico Type
No. 2 drive.  I can get everything *precisely* set- exhaust open & close
just right, run (advanced) timing=exactly 30 degrees per factory manual, but
when I flip the lever to retard it, I would expect it to go from the 30
degrees BTDC to zero (TDC).  Instead, the lever changes the timing about 90
degrees- it changes from 30 deg Before TDC to 60 degrees AFTER TDC.

Maybe this is related- I have also noticed that adjusting the push
rod/finger length a very small amount seemed to have a pretty big effect on
timing.  It was tricky to get the timing set just right.  I had to nudge the
adjustment/length literally a hair at a time.

Is it a combination of magnet strength, drive spring strength, return spring
strength, rocker arm wear, or latch-off adjusting screw that I'll never be
able to figure out?  I'm content to run the engine as-is, without using the
lever, but it is quite puzzling now that others have spoken up that their
lever works fine.

Thanks!
-Rick





From oiseming at moscow.com  Tue May 22 21:37:37 2007
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:37:37 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <200705230437.l4N4bklW055103@mail-gw.fsr.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 PM
To: SEL ATIS; Oldengine.org Engine; WAPA-Members
Subject: California Gold Engine Exposition

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007

~~~~~~~~~

Wow, Rob, you were not exaggerating!  What an assembly of rare engines!  I
wonder if there's ever been anything like it before.  Is this a regular
event?

Thank you for posting the pix.  They were a treat to see.

Best regards, 

Orrin





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May 23 00:30:48 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:30:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever
References: <mailman.3.1179849602.8272.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<004901c79cf2$c01d1aa0$0201a8c0@b21a5>
Message-ID: <006201c79d0c$4a233c20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

For what its worth, I have had odd things with the linkage setups over the 
years.
You really have to look closely to see what is happening.
That reason it aing working right can be hard to see.
First up, ya have to realise what 'Should' occur. Then you go looking for 
why it dont! And, when ya find it!!  "Why didn't I SEE that??
Been there, dun that!!
I really think this is an important part of the lure of old engines.
I BEAT it!!! VBG
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick I." <rdi at rochester.rr.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever


> In my thread "My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!"
>
> rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes:
>>My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.
> Germoamer at aol.com
>>Same here!  We run the hay baler with my 6hp International M at our show
>>every year.  Lever down to retard and start, lever up to run and she purrs
> like a
>>kitten!
>
> Well, it looks like it's supposed to work then!
>
> Any ideas why my advance lever doesn't work properly?  I have a Wico Type
> No. 2 drive.  I can get everything *precisely* set- exhaust open & close
> just right, run (advanced) timing=exactly 30 degrees per factory manual, 
> but
> when I flip the lever to retard it, I would expect it to go from the 30
> degrees BTDC to zero (TDC).  Instead, the lever changes the timing about 
> 90
> degrees- it changes from 30 deg Before TDC to 60 degrees AFTER TDC.
>
> Maybe this is related- I have also noticed that adjusting the push
> rod/finger length a very small amount seemed to have a pretty big effect 
> on
> timing.  It was tricky to get the timing set just right.  I had to nudge 
> the
> adjustment/length literally a hair at a time.
>
> Is it a combination of magnet strength, drive spring strength, return 
> spring
> strength, rocker arm wear, or latch-off adjusting screw that I'll never be
> able to figure out?  I'm content to run the engine as-is, without using 
> the
> lever, but it is quite puzzling now that others have spoken up that their
> lever works fine.
>
> Thanks!
> -Rick
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May 23 03:00:05 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:00:05 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
References: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>
	<2653.165.206.180.53.1179866239.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c79d21$23cc6d70$0601a8c0@altech>

If he is non compliant, each site owner could place a stop thief page in 
place of their actual page for a for a few weeks.

Peter, Oz





> Right-click on some of the images, he's actually hijacking the bandwidth
> by linking to the photos where they sit.
> Not very kind! That could throw some folks over their bandwidth threshold.
>
> I went to "his" tractor page and did a few right-clicks/properties and
> came up with the likes of:
>
> http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/a208_2.jpg
>
> At least if you're gonna steal, move it to your own server and take all of
> it.
>
> The engines for sale........ clear titles, correct?
>
>
> Bill
> *urls with-held! for fear of bandwidth hi-jacking*
>
>
>> G,day Kerry
>> I found something else that i knew i  have seen else where
>> check link
>> http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint208.htm
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kerry Morris <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
>> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>> G'Day B Erickson
>>>
>>> Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
>>> interesting"
>>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
>>>
>>> you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
>>> don't come as you have had a theft while not home.
>>>
>>> It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
>>> total pages stolen from my web site, the following
>>>
>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
>>>  has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
>>> Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
>>> can use my Photos if credit is given.
>>> also
>>>
>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
>>> you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
>>> my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
>>> the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
>>> As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
>>> your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
>>> MY PAGES including photos Immediately
>>> I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
>>> Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
>>> on that.
>>> Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
>>> don't understand stealing unless it is from you
>>>
>>> Original pages can be found as part of
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>>>
>>> Kerry Morris
>>> Lithgow NSW OZ
>>>
>>> PS. This topic has been around before with other
>>> peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
>>> ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
>>> lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
>>> Rant Over.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>> __________________________Take the Internet to Go:
>>> Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news,
>>> photos & more.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Wed May 23 03:13:46 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 18:13:46 +0800
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
	<000e01c79cc2$dbc137d0$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <007d01c79d23$0c8e7f70$f301a8c0@armstrong>

    There is a 7/8"  UNS (UN SPECIAL) threaded plug it is not a tapered 
thread but is one that is fitted to my "Engine" which is a copy of a Fuller 
and Jjohnson. and some one fitted a tapered plug stuffing up the thread.


Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member


> Glen ,either make or get some to do it for you, an adaptor to screw into
> your 18 mm plug hole.It is then tapped to take 14 mm. The latter size 
> plugs
> you will get for no cost at your local tune up centre....they throw them 
> out
> .As some one said these old engines will run on just about any plug.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Harris" <astfgl at iamnota.org>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:38 PM
> Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
>
>
>> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my
>> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.
>>
>> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an
>> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a
>> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
>>
>> There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running
>> condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out
>> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.
>>
>> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major
>> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine
>> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi
>> 0.840".
>>
>> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is
>> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller
>> than what I have here.
>>
>> Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.
>>
>> Thanks, glen.
>> (Townsville, Australia)
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed May 23 06:51:39 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:51:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during 
the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.) 
August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40 
Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on 
Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north end 
of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for items 
to donate to the auction!
	Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again 
this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said 
that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner. 
She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' ") 
would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said 
that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
	I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time 
neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I 
can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net 
Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
	Dave
PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can 
count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!



From ottawa at pa.net  Wed May 23 07:44:11 2007
From: ottawa at pa.net (George/Helen Myers)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:44:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Sumptner #14(IMP) Pix Request
Message-ID: <003c01c79d48$d40ff450$0201a8c0@HONDESKTOP>

If anyone owns a Sumpter #14(IMP) Magneto, we would appreciate a picture of it.  Also the base  & the bolt hole pattern dimensions.  Additionally, we need the overall height and distance from center of magneto shaft to the bottom of the base.

Would really appreciate receiving this information.  Thanks a bunch!

George L. & Helen S. Myers
RR 1,  Box 2032
Blain, PA  17006
The Ottawa Caretakers   ottawa at pa.net
Tel 717-536-3711
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=1751540



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed May 23 11:08:56 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:08:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <E4F8267D-A8DF-4C6C-B7DC-37720D317383@rustyiron.com>
References: <20070523.081810.2132.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<E4F8267D-A8DF-4C6C-B7DC-37720D317383@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705231406130.53416@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Rob,  You forgot to mention his CUTE assistant!!  8->>
http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007/116.jpg

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, 23 May 2007, Rob Skinner wrote:

> Before continuing, I'll elaborate a little for those who don't know.
> Danny is the son of one of the engine guys and has produced some very
> good engine show videos.  He has fancy cameras, fancy computers,
> fancy wires, and he knows how to use them.
>
> Contact Danny Panzone at
> sourcemedia at mac.com
> or call 951-354-2835



From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Wed May 23 07:20:38 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:20:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c79d45$8aa19ce0$0ab5123f@D8LJ7K91>

Yes, Dave, I will run the auction again, but that job is always up for grabs 
if anyone else wants to do it.

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007


> Hi All,
> The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during
> the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.)
> August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40
> Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on
> Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north 
> end
> of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for 
> items
> to donate to the auction!
> Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again
> this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said
> that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner.
> She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' 
> ")
> would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said
> that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
> I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time
> neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I
> can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net
> Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
> Dave
> PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can
> count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed May 23 13:51:38 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:51:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
In-Reply-To: <002d01c79d45$8aa19ce0$0ab5123f@D8LJ7K91>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>
	<002d01c79d45$8aa19ce0$0ab5123f@D8LJ7K91>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523155122.01bf2588@mail.alltel.net>

Thanks Glenn!
         Dave

At 09:20 AM 5/23/2007, you wrote:
>Yes, Dave, I will run the auction again, but that job is always up for grabs
>if anyone else wants to do it.
>
>Glenn Karch
>Hercules Historian
>Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:51 AM
>Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during
> > the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.)
> > August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40
> > Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on
> > Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north
> > end
> > of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for
> > items
> > to donate to the auction!
> > Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again
> > this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said
> > that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner.
> > She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie'
> > ")
> > would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said
> > that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
> > I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time
> > neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I
> > can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net
> > Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
> > Dave
> > PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can
> > count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May 23 15:31:12 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:31:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <00ca01c79d8a$1c412eb0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Aw! Ya sure know how to make a bloke hurt!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007


> Hi All,
> The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during
> the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.)
> August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40
> Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on
> Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north 
> end
> of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for 
> items
> to donate to the auction!
> Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again
> this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said
> that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner.
> She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' 
> ")
> would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said
> that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
> I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time
> neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I
> can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net
> Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
> Dave
> PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can
> count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May 23 16:01:59 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:01:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
References: <891F10D2-CA44-4A91-A4F0-E5FDDF41BDA2@rustyiron.com>
	<348117D8-33C1-44EC-A1FF-2D4E630FAC31@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <013801c79d8e$d6aac0a0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Did you get a reply?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rskinner at rustyiron.com>
To: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:40 AM
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE


> 
> Hello b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au,
> 
> It has come to my attention that you have created a web page from  
> material that was stolen from my web page.  Your entire section on  
> Ronaldson & Tippett is copyrighted intellectual property owned by  
> me.  I demand that you remove everything  immediately.
> 
> My tolerance of theft is small.  I understand that this might have  
> been an inadvertent mistake on your part, so I am willing to offer  
> you a limited license to use my work on your MSN web page.
> 
> If you wish to license my work, the cost will be $250 US per image  
> per year and $250 US per year for the text.  I can offer a discount  
> if you wish to enter into a multi-year licensing agreement.
> 
> Before I can agree on licensing, the current web page must be removed  
> immediately.
> 
> Rob Skinner
> La Habra, California
> www.rustyiron.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed May 23 17:27:04 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:27:04 EDT
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever
Message-ID: <d39.9d2b3c1.338635d8@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/23/2007 12:35:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rdi at rochester.rr.com writes:

I'm content to run the engine as-is, without using the
lever, but it is quite puzzling now that others have spoken up that their
lever works fine.

 
 
Starbolt/Hit&Miss sell a Wico book on troubleshooting/adjusting them that may 
be of use to you.  The trip/return springs play a big part in the adjustments 
as do all the other things.
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu May 24 07:29:34 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:29:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hiya Folks,

Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.

This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a new
grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))

This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying restored
ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
"collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.

What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift for
the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
Blade.  This web site has some info.  http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/

Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com




From gjohnson at ndii.com  Thu May 24 07:52:22 2007
From: gjohnson at ndii.com (Johnson, Greg)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:52:22 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC88690149F027@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz>

The photos are wonderful Rob,
I could not open the attachment that you sent that contained your phone
numbers.  I looked at the Cal Gold photos and found everything correct
except for the owner of the horizontal Reagan.  It is owned by Greg
Prokopchuk.  Anton's Reagan is at Coolspring now on loan.
We leave for Nuenen tomorrow.  Hope I live through the show and the
Belgium trappist beer!
Take care
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 PM
To: SEL ATIS; Oldengine.org Engine; WAPA-Members
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007



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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Thu May 24 08:50:33 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:50:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
Message-ID: <20070524.115509.880.3.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Arnie,

Not sure what you have but - 
My kid's looking for a lawn tractor to cut his grass.

He lives on a pretty hilly lot and has an extra lot beside that he cuts.

There is a "White" riding mower in my back yard he got for FREE.
It has the wrong motor and the pulleys don't line up.
He got it running and now he's talking about welding a pulley to the
motor shaft.
Not a good idea but necessity is the mother of invention.
I think he's a bit disgusted with it.

He did bring up the idea of buying one next year.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Thu May 24 09:13:51 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:13:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC88690149F027@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz>
References: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC88690149F027@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz>
Message-ID: <AE62635C-90FD-40D4-B7B5-548BACCAFE59@rustyiron.com>


On May 24, 2007, at 7:52 AM, Johnson, Greg wrote:

> The photos are wonderful Rob,
> I could not open the attachment that you sent that contained your  
> phone
> numbers.  I looked at the Cal Gold photos and found everything correct
> except for the owner of the horizontal Reagan.  It is owned by Greg
> Prokopchuk.  Anton's Reagan is at Coolspring now on loan.
> We leave for Nuenen tomorrow.  Hope I live through the show and the
> Belgium trappist beer!
> Take care
> Greg

Dooooood... Trappist beer from the source... my keyboard is shorting  
out from excess drool.  Thanks for setting me straight on Greg's  
Reagan.  Give your lovely bride a big hug from me, and have a great  
time in Europe.

Rob




From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Thu May 24 09:57:54 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:57:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Arnie's Cadet
Message-ID: <BAY127-F4323FC9569728D7C1E39BCB340@phx.gbl>

>>>This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
worth.

>>>Arnie

Well, if it were to be auctioned off, that would get you the answer...

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway

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From kimmell at verizon.net  Tue May 22 18:08:08 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:08:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Yeah I know... been busy with work and other stuff this last 
week.  Barely had time to pull my hair out figuring out that stupid 
HTML mistake of mine.

My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size 
on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll 
have to find a good image resizing program.

--
Tony


At 08:56 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Tony
>Just a thought, your photos are way too large a file size for those on
>dialup, they are just under 1Mb each, they need to be 1/10th that size
>
>Regards
>Peter Lowe
>R&V Engine Registrar
>Australia
>Ph: 61-266453455
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> > Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
> > get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
> >
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tony Kimmell
> > Bloomington, IL
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
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From garyepps at fidnet.com  Thu May 24 11:26:27 2007
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:26:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net><0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net><004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <003501c79e31$0bedabe0$6b83fb40@HP28276676518>

Tony, you might want to look at Picasa, it is a free Google program.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures


> Yeah I know... been busy with work and other stuff this last
> week.  Barely had time to pull my hair out figuring out that stupid
> HTML mistake of mine.
>
> My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size
> on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll
> have to find a good image resizing program.
>
> --
> Tony
>
>
> At 08:56 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Tony
>>Just a thought, your photos are way too large a file size for those on
>>dialup, they are just under 1Mb each, they need to be 1/10th that size
>>
>>Regards
>>Peter Lowe
>>R&V Engine Registrar
>>Australia
>>Ph: 61-266453455
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
>> > get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>> >
>> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tony Kimmell
>> > Bloomington, IL
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> >
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu May 24 12:21:55 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:21:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>

Tony,

You NEED Irfanview.  Best damn FREE tool for the job.
http://www.irfanview.com/

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 22 May 2007, Tony & Jackie wrote:

> My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size
> on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll
> have to find a good image resizing program.



From falcon at telenet.net  Thu May 24 11:59:31 2007
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:59:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <4655E093.7030901@telenet.net>

Arnie, a 782 with what you have and in good shape should sell for around 
$2000.00. If you really want to sell it come on over to the IH Registry 
  at http://ihregistry.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi
Toss a few pics up there with it and they can tell you what it is worth 
and probably it will sell QUICK. There is also a for sale area there as 
well.


Arnie Fero wrote:
> Hiya Folks,
> 
> Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.
> 
> This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a new
> grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
> tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
> has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))
> 
> This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
> tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
> worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying restored
> ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
> "collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.
> 
> What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
> Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
> hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift for
> the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
> weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
> International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
> Blade.  This web site has some info.  http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/
> 
> Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price would
> be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
NRA Member
Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.


From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Thu May 24 12:57:44 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:57:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <69959.55227.qm@web82013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Arnie

I second your recommendation...I use irfanview to resize 99.9% of the
photos on my site.  It is great for the shows...Just upload to a folder on
my computer...Open one of the pics in irfanview, select batch
resize/rename option.  This process also allows me to copyright tag each
photo at a set location (I can choose where based on pixel location).  and
then let it crank away thru all of the photos.

I now take all photos at the highest res and resize/resample down for
theweb.  I keep the full size photos for further use if needed.  If making
a print, I use the full size photo...

Steve
--- Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:

> Tony,
> 
> You NEED Irfanview.  Best damn FREE tool for the job.
> http://www.irfanview.com/
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> On Tue, 22 May 2007, Tony & Jackie wrote:
> 
> > My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size
> > on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll
> > have to find a good image resizing program.



From BillMil357 at aol.com  Thu May 24 18:17:44 2007
From: BillMil357 at aol.com (BillMil357 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:17:44 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
Message-ID: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>

Hi Steve,
 
Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints? Steve I 
hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well as 
Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker  family, 
and others on the List.
 
See'ya, Bill Miller. 



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Thu May 24 18:23:38 2007
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:23:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
References: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c79e6b$535a61f0$10ef4c0c@D48VHZ61>

Don't keep up with the values but I can tell you what you have is one of the 
last "real" Cadets. The 6 and 782's got respect from the dealers. They were 
built about the time Cadet was spun off to MTD. Their weak link was the 
engine. Definetly a fine piece of equipment, as I'm sure you know!

John Hall

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?


> Hiya Folks,
>
> Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.
>
> This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a new
> grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
> tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
> has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))
>
> This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
> tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
> worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying restored
> ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
> "collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.
>
> What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
> Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
> hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift for
> the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
> weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
> International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
> Blade.  This web site has some info.  http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/
>
> Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price would
> be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 24 18:56:18 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 20:56:18 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>


>  Steve I
>hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well as
>Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker  family,
>See'ya, Bill Miller.

Hi Bill,
         I'll be there. So will the Hollands, Glenn, Keith and perhaps the 
Webres.
                 Dave 



From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Thu May 24 19:14:23 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:14:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SIAM show
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002101c79e72$6ae1ed00$a0ec123f@D8LJ7K91>

Bill and others,

Speaking of the SIAM show, it will be June 8, 9 & 10.  Another interesting 
note:  There will be a tractor and gas engine auction about 20 miles away 
from the show on Saturday June 9.  You can go wilsonauction.com to see the 
listing, but don't expect anything nice and shiny.  I plan to go over and 
see what it all looks like soon (tomorrow I hope).

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BillMil357 at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]


> Hi Steve,
>
> Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints? Steve 
> I
> hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well 
> as
> Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker 
> family,
> and others on the List.
>
> See'ya, Bill Miller.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at 
> http://www.aol.com.
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From reb1952 at bellsouth.net  Thu May 24 19:16:09 2007
From: reb1952 at bellsouth.net (Dickie)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:16:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000801c79e72$a90054a0$0302a8c0@Dads>

Be there too Bill.

Dick Bauer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]


>
>>  Steve I
>>hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well 
>>as
>>Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker 
>>family,
>>See'ya, Bill Miller.
>
> Hi Bill,
>         I'll be there. So will the Hollands, Glenn, Keith and perhaps the
> Webres.
>                 Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From kimmell at verizon.net  Thu May 24 19:30:32 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:30:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0JIK00L2XSBWY550@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>

Alright... lets try this again.  This time it should be dial-up 
friendly.  http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92

That's one sweet program.

-Tony



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Thu May 24 20:26:01 2007
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 22:26:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
Message-ID: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>

John, what do you have to say about an 1812 hydro?  I picked one up last
summer for $400 with 50" or 52" (I forget) deck, brand new tires and front
pto.  Not sure what year it is but it runs and mows great and I love the
power steering.  Picked up a brand new blade for it this past spring at an
auction for $20.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 5/24/2007 8:23:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] What's it Worth?
>
> Don't keep up with the values but I can tell you what you have is one of
the 
> last "real" Cadets. The 6 and 782's got respect from the dealers. They
were 
> built about the time Cadet was spun off to MTD. Their weak link was the 
> engine. Definetly a fine piece of equipment, as I'm sure you know!
>
> John Hall
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old
Engine" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:29 AM
> Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
>
>
> > Hiya Folks,
> >
> > Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.
> >
> > This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a
new
> > grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
> > tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
> > has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))
> >
> > This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
> > tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what
it's
> > worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying
restored
> > ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
> > "collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.
> >
> > What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
> > Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
> > hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift
for
> > the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
> > weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
> > International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
> > Blade.  This web site has some info. 
http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/
> >
> > Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price
would
> > be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > See ya,  Arnie
> >
> > Arnie Fero
> > Pittsburgh, PA
> > fero_ah at city-net.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> > 
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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4:01 PM




From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Thu May 24 21:03:48 2007
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:03:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>

Guys and Gals
I will be missing the SIAM show this year.  Our daughter, Elizabeth, 
is graduating from college in Wisconsin the same week end.  Really 
really hate to miss it but wouldn't miss her graduation for anything. 
You'all have fun and hopefully I'll be able to make it to Portland.
Keith


At 08:56 PM 5/24/2007, you wrote:

> >  Steve I
> >hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well as
> >Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, 
> Tucker  family,
> >See'ya, Bill Miller.
>
>Hi Bill,
>          I'll be there. So will the Hollands, Glenn, Keith and perhaps the
>Webres.
>                  Dave
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
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>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.7/816 - Release Date: 
>5/23/2007 3:59 PM

Keith Kinney
Evansville, Indiana  USA
www.HerculesEngines.com 



From falcon at telenet.net  Thu May 24 21:52:29 2007
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
In-Reply-To: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>
References: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <46566B8D.2030904@telenet.net>


Tim Christoff wrote:
> John, what do you have to say about an 1812 hydro?  I picked one up last
> summer for $400 with 50" or 52" (I forget) deck, brand new tires and front
> pto.  Not sure what year it is but it runs and mows great and I love the
> power steering.  Picked up a brand new blade for it this past spring at an
> auction for $20.
> 
> Tim Christoff
> Basehor Kansas
> 
> 


You STOLE it. The 1812s were built from 86-89. They were built by MTD 
and are basically a yellow/white 82 series with an 18 HP Kohler.

-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
NRA Member
Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.


From curt at imc-group.com  Fri May 25 04:49:13 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:49:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
	<200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <4656CD39.2030109@imc-group.com>

There is going to be one hell of an auction at Keith barn that weekend! 
  :-)
Curt

Keith Kinney wrote:
> Guys and Gals
> I will be missing the SIAM show this year.  Our daughter, Elizabeth, 
> is graduating from college in Wisconsin the same week end.  Really 
> really hate to miss it but wouldn't miss her graduation for anything. 
> You'all have fun and hopefully I'll be able to make it to Portland.
> Keith
>
>
>   



From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Fri May 25 13:10:37 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM
In-Reply-To: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
Message-ID: <495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bill

I burn to CD/DVD and an external USB hard drive that is pluged in only to
move files and then stored in a safe.

As to SIAM, There is an auction that weekend which has several locally
built engines on it that is not too far away.  If I can preview the
engines prior, I might leave an absentee bid with the auctioneer or
another local collector....But I don't know yet.

I also have a local 2 hour evening engine/tractor show in the Downtown of
Downers Grove on Friday June 8.  Something different for the locals....and
it is only 5 blocks away from the house.

Steve
--- BillMil357 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>  
> Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints?
> Steve I 
> hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as
> well as 
> Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker 
> family, 
> and others on the List.
>  
> See'ya, Bill Miller. 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************** See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From andyglines at hotmail.com  Fri May 25 13:19:22 2007
From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:19:22 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1180108802.3414.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <BAY141-F217624A8F2C3A7508BD8EEC72B0@phx.gbl>


>   17. Re: SIAM Show (Curt)
>Message: 17
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:49:13 -0400
>From: Curt <curt at imc-group.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] SIAM Show
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <4656CD39.2030109 at imc-group.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>There is going to be one hell of an auction at Keith barn that weekend!
>   :-)
>Curt

10-4 on the Kinney sale curt.  I'd really like to have one of the little 
Clark dozers in the Kinney collection.  I'm really excited about this year's 
show because I plan to have the Huber steam engine there after 3 years of 
work.  With a bit of luck the club's Venn-Severin diesel will run at the 
show for the first time.   Keith, we'll miss you and your family at the show 
and please give you daughter my congratulations.

_________________________________________________________________
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri May 25 15:09:14 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:09:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com
 >
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
	<200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070525170724.01e65ec0@mail.alltel.net>

You and your family will be missed Keith! However, you DO have your 
priorities straight. Tell Elizabeth that I said CONGRATS!
         Dave

At 11:03 PM 5/24/2007, you wrote:
>Guys and Gals
>I will be missing the SIAM show this year.  Our daughter, Elizabeth,
>is graduating from college in Wisconsin the same week end.  Really
>really hate to miss it but wouldn't miss her graduation for anything.
>You'all have fun and hopefully I'll be able to make it to Portland.
>Keith



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri May 25 23:15:36 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:15:36 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM
In-Reply-To: <495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705252315i328f81c7i7f36eaa5a6a6e1f0@mail.gmail.com>

On 25/05/07, Steve Barr <stevebarr at ameritech.net> wrote:
> Bill
>
> I burn to CD/DVD and an external USB hard drive that is pluged in only to
> move files and then stored in a safe.
>

With most of our own images, we tend to back up to DVD and keep
duplicates on a separate hard drive as well.

Like insurance, if you have it, you never use it....

Other card formats such as Secure Digital and Compact Flash can also
be used as back-up stores in the short term, but the little USB drives
are so cheap now it is worth having a couple around just for general
use.

We save our high resolution scans in TIFF format, but reduce in size
and change to JPEG for website use.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sat May 26 04:03:40 2007
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:03:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
References: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003c01c79f85$85b33710$dbd14c0c@D48VHZ61>

Definetly a good buy. I'm trying to remember which one it is. I think yours 
is the same as an 1810 except it has hydraulic deck lift--same as the 
difference between a 682 and a 782. I beleive yours has the Magnum series 
Kohler---most likely a M18. Much better engine than the KT17 in the 82's. 
Those had a tendency to let trash stick open the needle valve and flood the 
engine with gas while not running. If you didn't check the oil before you 
ran it next you wound up with a bill for a new engine---generally too much 
labor to pay to rebuild those.

By the way, the size you have as well as one about the size (but of better 
quality) than a Murray were the 2 most popular ones sold around here.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Christoff" <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] What's it Worth?


> John, what do you have to say about an 1812 hydro?  I picked one up last
> summer for $400 with 50" or 52" (I forget) deck, brand new tires and front
> pto.  Not sure what year it is but it runs and mows great and I love the
> power steering.  Picked up a brand new blade for it this past spring at an
> auction for $20.
>
> Tim Christoff
> Basehor Kansas
>
> 




From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Sun May 27 00:31:42 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 15:31:42 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM
References: <495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c7a031$1251a250$f301a8c0@armstrong>

Steve.
what time on Friday will the show start and exactly where, my daughter wants 
to take the grandchildren
Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Barr" <stevebarr at ameritech.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM


> Bill
>
> I burn to CD/DVD and an external USB hard drive that is pluged in only to
> move files and then stored in a safe.
>
> As to SIAM, There is an auction that weekend which has several locally
> built engines on it that is not too far away.  If I can preview the
> engines prior, I might leave an absentee bid with the auctioneer or
> another local collector....But I don't know yet.
>
> I also have a local 2 hour evening engine/tractor show in the Downtown of
> Downers Grove on Friday June 8.  Something different for the locals....and
> it is only 5 blocks away from the house.
>
> Steve
> --- BillMil357 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints?
>> Steve I
>> hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as
>> well as
>> Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker
>> family,
>> and others on the List.
>>
>> See'ya, Bill Miller.
>>
>>
>>
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From glenforge at hotmail.com  Mon May 28 05:45:30 2007
From: glenforge at hotmail.com (Peter Cumming)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:45:30 +0800
Subject: [SEL] "Gits" oil seals
Message-ID: <BAY118-F846150A3CE6FA68FA94E5B6280@phx.gbl>

Gday,

Has anybody got an idea of how to repair/ replace "Gits" oil seals as found 
on an Internatinal type H (Ronaldson Tippet type N)?

Thanks

Peter Cumming
Wagin,
Western Australia
glenforge at hotmail.com

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From MBellar at aol.com  Mon May 28 08:48:53 2007
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:48:53 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Spam/Phish> Parts washer
Message-ID: <d24.f2b4c4f.338c53e5@aol.com>

GE just recalled our old dish washer, and I opted to replace it  instead of 
exchanging the defective parts. I have been wondering if it is  practical 
disconnect the drain valve add a nylon stocking filter and try to use  it as a 
parts cleaner. Has anybody tried this, or will the grit and  grime destroy the 
plastic innards.
 
Tom 



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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Mon May 28 09:03:48 2007
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:03:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
Message-ID: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>

Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and I
don't want to tear anything up.

Thank you.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas






From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Mon May 28 10:37:02 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 12:37:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Was dishwasher, now parts cleaner?
Message-ID: <BAY127-F39034E2F6CB9A745104419CB280@phx.gbl>

"I have been wondering if it is  practical
disconnect the drain valve add a nylon stocking filter and try to use  it as 
a
parts cleaner."

For sure, don't use a flammable solvent in it.  The electrics aren't 
designed for that.  I used one as a tool cleaner, using the regular 
dishwasher detergent.  It is very effective on grease and oil, and on most 
paint as well.  Eventually, depending on the quantities involved, the grit 
will tear up the pump.  The good news is that pump repair kits are cheap, 
and straightforward to replace.

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Mon May 28 10:52:31 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 12:52:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Spam/Phish> Parts washer
In-Reply-To: <d24.f2b4c4f.338c53e5@aol.com>
References: <d24.f2b4c4f.338c53e5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0JIR00IQJJ0KEZV0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

Tom,
I did that with an old Whilrpool dishwasher to clean car engine 
parts.  I built a frame out of coat hanger wire and stretched some 
very fine steel mesh screen over it.  I set this screen over the 
bottom of the unit so it would filter the drain water before it ran 
through the pump.  I then zip-tied a sock over the outlet hose and 
just draped it over the side of my utility sink.  I used natural 
orange based degreaser detergent in it and never had any problems 
until the motor died from a failed bearing (unrelated).

At 10:48 AM 5/28/2007, Tom wrote:
>GE just recalled our old dish washer, and I opted to replace it  instead of
>exchanging the defective parts. I have been wondering if it is  practical
>disconnect the drain valve add a nylon stocking filter and try to 
>use  it as a
>parts cleaner. Has anybody tried this, or will the grit and  grime 
>destroy the
>plastic innards.
>
>Tom




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon May 28 11:43:42 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 14:43:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
In-Reply-To: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1180377822.465b22de5838d@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Tim,

Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual that I
could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's just
two check balls.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:

> Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and I
> don't want to tear anything up.




From MBellar at aol.com  Mon May 28 16:22:41 2007
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:22:41 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
Message-ID: <c16.175621f0.338cbe41@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/28/2007 12:07:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tchristoff at earthlink.net writes:

Anyone  got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
internal  parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and  I
don't want to tear anything up.



Tim;
 
If Arnie's reply does not help you let me know. I have hidden in my  files a 
copy of a copy of a copy of the parts breakdown manual for the Novo  "S" 
engines which may help you.
 
Tom



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From MBellar at aol.com  Mon May 28 16:58:55 2007
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:58:55 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Parts washer/ Miller Engine
Message-ID: <c0e.1058aaeb.338cc6bf@aol.com>

List Members thank you for the feedback. I think that I will give the  dish 
washer modification a try.
 
After three years of messing around I finely got my George Miller & Son  
Waterloo engine blowing smoke. It was on a cement mixer so a lot of sand and  grit 
went through it. I have replaced most of the pins and rebushed  everything 
including the cylinder. I still have to have the piston  regrooved, but now 
there is pretty good compression and she runs and sounds like  a show engine. Now 
all I need to know is what color should I paint it. The  engine & mixer was 
solid rust. The only paint I could find was behind  some bolts which is best 
described as a vomit green that I would not even  put on an axed Maytag. Any 
advice out there?  
 
Tom in SW Ohio



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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Mon May 28 17:44:00 2007
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:44:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
Message-ID: <410-2200752290440921@earthlink.net>

Arnie, it is a Novo S.  Is there supposed to be a spring in it somewhere? 
I see no provisions for returning the plunger to the top.  The line drawing
would be great, thank you.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 5/28/2007 2:37:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual
that I
> could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's
just
> two check balls.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:
>
> > Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> > internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck
and I
> > don't want to tear anything up.
>
>
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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon May 28 21:26:16 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:26:16 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
Message-ID: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>

18th Annual Home School Fair of Southern California. The Home School  
Fair occurs annually each Memorial Day, in Ontario, California. The  
purpose of the Home School Fair is to serve the children of the  
homeschool community by allowing them a place to share their talents  
and abilities with friends, family members, and other homeschooled  
students.

http://wapa.us/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=88




















From jdohagan at comcast.net  Mon May 28 22:09:20 2007
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 22:09:20 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
In-Reply-To: <410-2200752290440921@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20070529050924.981F539241A@mx-in04.iad.mail-abuse.org>

Hi Tim ,My Novo 3 HP pump[most sizes take same pump]has a plunger with a
lipped top. The spring goes under the lip and is caught between the top of
the pump body's brass packing nut and the lip of the plunger.Under the
packing nut is some form of packing string/rope, then a brass reducing
bushing. That's about it. I think there are Two check balls in the gas
intake/discharge casting on the side of the pump.

Jim O'Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:44 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump

Arnie, it is a Novo S.  Is there supposed to be a spring in it somewhere? 
I see no provisions for returning the plunger to the top.  The line drawing
would be great, thank you.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 5/28/2007 2:37:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual
that I
> could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's
just
> two check balls.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:
>
> > Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> > internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck
and I
> > don't want to tear anything up.
>
>
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From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 23:09:03 2007
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 23:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
In-Reply-To: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <108642.27054.qm@web59215.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Rob-san,  Thank you for the Home School info.  If I were in the States now, I would surely attend.  I am hearing excellent reports about the academics acquired by most home-schoolers.  Do you know who sponsors this event?


   
   



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon May 28 23:36:55 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 23:36:55 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
In-Reply-To: <108642.27054.qm@web59215.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <108642.27054.qm@web59215.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1C119ACA-8478-449B-861A-88C9EDE9598E@rustyiron.com>


On May 28, 2007, at 11:09 PM, William Young wrote:

> Rob-san,  Thank you for the Home School info.  If I were in the  
> States now, I would surely attend.  I am hearing excellent reports  
> about the academics acquired by most home-schoolers.  Do you know  
> who sponsors this event?


Wakai-san, I don't know the answer to your question.
Perhaps the answer lies here:  http://www.homeschoolfair.com




From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Mon May 28 23:53:40 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:53:40 +1200
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
In-Reply-To: <1180377822.465b22de5838d@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>
	<1180377822.465b22de5838d@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <000601c7a1be$17ce1b30$0201a8c0@tamatea1>

Tim what metal is the pump made up of if steel or brass electrolysis is a
good method to unseize delicate parts if rusted without undue force.Do not
consider if the housing is aluminium as the process will eat it away.If
aluminium why not gently heating in some auto transmission oil as i have
unseized difficult brake cylinders with this method especially the type that
have only one opening brent New Zealand 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
fero_ah at city-net.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 6:44 a.m.
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump

Hi Tim,

Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual
that I
could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's
just
two check balls.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:

> Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and
I
> don't want to tear anything up.


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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May 29 08:14:25 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:14:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
In-Reply-To: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
References: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070529101327.01c8e620@mail.alltel.net>

Great pictures and a good cause Rob!
         Dave
PS, How did you know what Kelley was looking at--or even if she was awake?

At 11:26 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
>18th Annual Home School Fair of Southern California. The Home School
>Fair occurs annually each Memorial Day, in Ontario, California. The
>purpose of the Home School Fair is to serve the children of the
>homeschool community by allowing them a place to share their talents
>and abilities with friends, family members, and other homeschooled
>students.
>
>http://wapa.us/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=88
>
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May 29 10:50:11 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:50:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
Message-ID: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi List,

Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???

I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.

The last year it accepts is 2006.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From b2 at chooka.net  Tue May 29 11:05:40 2007
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:05:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
In-Reply-To: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00de01c7a21b$f7cd6bc0$700a0a0a@apluscomputer.local>

1951 is one, according to my Green Magazine calendar. 

B?
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L Betz
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:50 PM
To: off_topic at oldiron-nut.com; SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] what time ?

Hi List,

Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???

I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.

The last year it accepts is 2006.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue May 29 12:00:35 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:00:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
In-Reply-To: <00de01c7a21b$f7cd6bc0$700a0a0a@apluscomputer.local>
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
	<00de01c7a21b$f7cd6bc0$700a0a0a@apluscomputer.local>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705291459160.82923@vegeta.city-net.com>

Joe's probably screwed...  VCRs weren't invented in 1951.  8-)))

On Tue, 29 May 2007, Bill Brueck wrote:

> 1951 is one, according to my Green Magazine calendar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???
> I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.
> The last year it accepts is 2006.
>
> Joe "Pip" Betz said that.



From f86sabre at kcweb.net  Tue May 29 13:04:50 2007
From: f86sabre at kcweb.net (f86sabre at kcweb.net)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:04:50 -0600
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c7a22c$9dbd2d30$9701a8c0@danlsthing>

The last prior year is 2001, before that 1990.  Just go back 11, then 
another 11, then 6.  They recur in that order.  You can recycle your old 
calendars if you are a packrat!
Dan Bousman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph L Betz" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: <off_topic at oldiron-nut.com>; <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: [SEL] what time ?


> Hi List,
>
> Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???
>
> I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.
>
> The last year it accepts is 2006.
>
> Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
>   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
>   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys -
>  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue May 29 12:06:51 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:06:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Peter Forbes
Message-ID: <20070529.120651.732.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Peter:  please contact me off list.  Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue May 29 13:40:51 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:40:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
In-Reply-To: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070529163938.03057790@pop3.wcoil.com>

Don't quote me but I believe the calendar recycles every 12 or 14? 
years.    Mark


At 01:50 PM 5/29/07, you wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???
>
>I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.
>
>The last year it accepts is 2006.
>
>Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
>jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
>    ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
>    \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys -
>   (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."
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Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May 29 14:10:48 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:10:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
Message-ID: <20070529.171053.1116.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Thanks Bill & Pete,
 
Will try 1951 and 2001.

(Later)  Used 2001 - 
1951 is too early for VCR's.

Thanks for your help.
 
Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 29 19:20:17 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:20:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
References: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01c7a261$1176bc30$240110ac@FAMILY>

Rob beautiful pictures and a nice show. Thanks for posting them.

Paul

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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair


> 18th Annual Home School Fair of Southern California. The Home School  
> Fair occurs annually each Memorial Day, in Ontario, California. The  
> purpose of the Home School Fair is to serve the children of the  
> homeschool community by allowing them a place to share their talents  
> and abilities with friends, family members, and other homeschooled  
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Tue May 29 19:51:32 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:51:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone From WI coming to Coolspring?
Message-ID: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>

I have an engine truck in Wausau, WI and wondered if anyone coming to 
Coolspring was near there or coming through there on the way.  It would 
be a way to help pay for some high dollar fuel.  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





From shop at cccomm.net  Wed May 30 12:13:09 2007
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:13:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks T
References: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>


Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
Thanks in advance,
Dave



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed May 30 13:25:40 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:25:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks T
In-Reply-To: <006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
References: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>
	<006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
Message-ID: <465DDDC4.6010505@scrtc.com>

Dave,
    I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't 
know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a 
deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black 
mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont 
number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.

Tommy



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>Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>Thanks in advance,
>Dave
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From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May 31 05:15:07 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:15:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks T
In-Reply-To: <465DDDC4.6010505@scrtc.com>
References: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>	<006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
	<465DDDC4.6010505@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <465EBC4B.8060006@imc-group.com>

Tommy,
The T's I've seen with paint on them still have the dark, dark, almost 
black paint you mention.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
> Dave,
>     I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't 
> know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a 
> deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black 
> mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont 
> number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.
>
> Tommy
>
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>
> Dave Ernst wrote:
>
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>> Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dave
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From sumron at optusnet.com.au  Thu May 31 17:56:14 2007
From: sumron at optusnet.com.au (Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:56:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 38, Issue 31
References: <mailman.3.1180627202.15890.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <003501c7a3e7$a92c3cd0$dcc6693a@userecaf7b7be7>

Hi ,Dave Ernst
Which is the correct colour Green or Red ???

many years ago I had a friend who made racing motor cycles for a living, he 
always did his own painting and I can still remember him saying that to 
correctly apply a "RED" finnish coat, you use a "Green" undercoat, while  to 
apply "GREEN" finnish coat you use a "Red" undercoat,
Now, does you engine show a Finnish coat,  or is it an undercoat ???
food for thought??
John,  The Tankman, in OZ.



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> Dave,
>    I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't
> know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a
> deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black
> mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont
> number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.
>
> Tommy
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> Dave Ernst wrote:
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>>Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Dave
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> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:15:07 -0400
> From: Curt <curt at imc-group.com>
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> Tommy,
> The T's I've seen with paint on them still have the dark, dark, almost
> black paint you mention.
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>> Dave,
>>     I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't
>> know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a
>> deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black
>> mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont
>> number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.
>>
>> Tommy
>>
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>> Dave Ernst wrote:
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu May 31 23:11:55 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:11:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] FW: Austral Oil Engine Register
Message-ID: <20070601061200.GBRA1715.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>


As many of you know the Austral Oil Engine register, compiled over many
years by Peter Willcock, was closed at the end of last year. After much
discussion I am taking over the project, to keep the register alive. There
are still a lot of Australs out there not on the register and still a lot
more information to be found and disseminated.
I hope to compile all the information into a computer data-base over the
next few months and will hopefully soon have it all up and running. This
should allow me to provide maximum benefit for those interested in the
Austral Oil Engines without me filling up all my free time trying to keep
track of it all.
The task makes me appreciate even more the work that others do maintaining
engine registers and researching the history of the engines. It is important
to make the information as available as possible for our fellow enthusiasts
& I hope to do the Austral Register the justice it deserves. 

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May 22 18:31:39 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:31:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070522200834.01d8c848@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during 
the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.) 
August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40 
Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on 
Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north end 
of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for items 
to donate to the auction!
	Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again 
this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said 
that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner. 
She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' ") 
would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said 
that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
	I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time 
neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I 
can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net 
Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
	Dave
PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can 
count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!



From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue May  1 13:57:38 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 16:57:38 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Starting Stover - Need Help
Message-ID: <be4.165f1d36.336903c2@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 4/30/2007 10:11:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rex002 at centurytel.net writes:

I always thought about 4 degrees BDC am I correct ?

 
Starting with a buzz coil, not going to pull any load, keep from kicking back 
on you, any where from a few degrees before to a few degrees after TDC should 
be fine
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  1 18:38:07 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:38:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
Message-ID: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?

A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?

Paul



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  1 19:26:50 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:26:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

O rings
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
> able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  1 19:39:22 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:39:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>

Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.

Paul

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To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


>O rings
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
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> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  1 19:48:34 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:48:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <00e601c78c64$61dd74b0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Think sideways!  It works!!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

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From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
> 
> Paul
> 
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> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
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>>O rings
>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> 
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>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May  1 19:50:55 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 21:50:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070501215029.0e085c78@mail.alltel.net>

At 08:38 PM 5/1/2007, you wrote:
>Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
>A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
>able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
>Paul

Cork it!
         Dave 



From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Tue May  1 19:56:20 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 21:56:20 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000801c78c65$77a62070$93f1123f@D8LJ7K91>

Paul,

1/8" is too thick for oilers.  The gaskets have to be thin for the oiler to 
be assembled right  so the drip adjustment works OK.  About 1/32 is enough. 
You can get them from Starbolt or Hit & Miss all the right size and ready to 
use.

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
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From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
> able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue May  1 20:15:40 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:15:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <00e601c78c64$61dd74b0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00e601c78c64$61dd74b0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <801bc415a03383bef168cb007ba09ceb@chartertn.net>

I can't get 'em to seal when I put 'em in sideways, Reg.

John

On May 1, 2007, at 10:48 PM, R & M Ingold wrote:

> Think sideways!  It works!!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May  1 20:48:30 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:48:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
Message-ID: <20070501.235131.872.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Paul,

I use cork to make my oiler gaskets with.

I'd say it about 3/32" thick.

The smaller the bits of cork - the better.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May  2 05:00:56 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 05:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
	<008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <2438.165.206.180.53.1178107256.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Yeah, thanks - will have to give them a try.
Any preference as to the diameter, thick or thin? Will they "roll inward"
when you snug things down?

Bill

> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
>
>>O rings
>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
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From carl_scott at hotmail.com  Wed May  2 06:40:43 2007
From: carl_scott at hotmail.com (Carl )
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:40:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>

Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers plus
many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I dropped
my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was over.
I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible. I
visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
waste.
Carlton Scott
Lakeland, FL

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
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Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?

Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?

A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be able
to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?

Paul

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From shop at cccomm.net  Wed May  2 07:29:24 2007
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:29:24 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <00cd01c78cc6$484fefc0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>

If you don't use the proper type o-rings the will swell after exposure to 
oil and likely slip from beneath the glass. the style to use is found in 
automatic transmission work and they will be color coded other than straight 
black.
Use Starbolt's corks or make your own as suggested.
My two bits
Dave
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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


>O rings
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
>
>> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>>
>> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be
>> able to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>>
>> Paul
>>
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From curt at imc-group.com  Wed May  2 08:22:18 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 11:22:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4638ACAA.9040203@imc-group.com>

Paul,
You've said you like McMaster Carr, so you might try the blended cork 
material they offer. I've been using the nitrile blend cork sheet for 
years to make oiler gaskets. McM offers a neoprene cork blend too, but 
it is not nearly as oil resistant as the nitrile blend. I use the 1/16" 
thick material, p/n 96165K32 which is a 12" x 36" sheet. You like the 
price too at $7.24. You'll do a LOT of oilers at that price and quantity!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Carl wrote:
> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers plus
> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I dropped
> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was over.
> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible. I
> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
> waste.
> Carlton Scott
> Lakeland, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be able
> to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May  2 08:48:13 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <001201c78cbf$7ad9e150$0301a8c0@EvenBetter>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<001201c78cbf$7ad9e150$0301a8c0@EvenBetter>
Message-ID: <4030.165.206.180.53.1178120893.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

I have always gotten all of my oiler glass or gaskets from him. I think
the glass comes with gaskets, does it not? Or you can buy any mix n match
of gaskets you want. They are good ones.

Bill

> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers
> plus
> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I
> dropped
> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was
> over.
> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible.
> I
> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
> waste.
> Carlton Scott
> Lakeland, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>
> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be
> able
> to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>
> Paul
>
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  2 09:41:24 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:41:24 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><BAY124-DAV2A82EBB4775FA23D88888F3420@phx.gbl>
	<4638ACAA.9040203@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c78cd8$b9f34160$240110ac@FAMILY>

Ok Gang I just ordered some pre-made gaskets from Hit & Miss Enterprises and 
I am going to order a sheet of the nitrile blend material that Curt 
suggested below for any future gaskets I may need.

Thanks everyone for the help, it is greatly appreciated.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Paul,
> You've said you like McMaster Carr, so you might try the blended cork
> material they offer. I've been using the nitrile blend cork sheet for
> years to make oiler gaskets. McM offers a neoprene cork blend too, but
> it is not nearly as oil resistant as the nitrile blend. I use the 1/16"
> thick material, p/n 96165K32 which is a 12" x 36" sheet. You like the
> price too at $7.24. You'll do a LOT of oilers at that price and quantity!
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found 
>> much
>> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers 
>> plus
>> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I 
>> dropped
>> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was 
>> over.
>> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible. 
>> I
>> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
>> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' 
>> made
>> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
>> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
>> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
>> waste.
>> Carlton Scott
>> Lakeland, FL
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:38 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>
>> Hey Gang what is the best gasket material to use for the oiler glasses?
>>
>> A friend of mine suggested 1/8" neoprene but I am afraid I will not be 
>> able
>> to find this in my small town, what are some other suggestions?
>>
>> Paul
>>
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From carl_scott at hotmail.com  Wed May  2 09:52:36 2007
From: carl_scott at hotmail.com (Carl )
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:52:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
In-Reply-To: <4030.165.206.180.53.1178120893.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><001201c78cbf$7ad9e150$0301a8c0@EvenBetter>
	<4030.165.206.180.53.1178120893.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DAV95D53F87C5C2C0EC22AB0F3420@phx.gbl>

Not sure if Pedersen's top glass comes with gaskets...I don't remember. The
lower glass does for sure. 
http://www.enginads.com/pedersen/index.html 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
bill at antique-engines.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:48 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?

I have always gotten all of my oiler glass or gaskets from him. I think
the glass comes with gaskets, does it not? Or you can buy any mix n match
of gaskets you want. They are good ones.
Bill

> Lee Pedersen carries corprene gasket material 3/32 thick that I found much
> better than cork. He also has pre-cut gaskets and glass for all oilers
> plus
> many other engine goodies. When I got my first Alamo a while back I
> dropped
> my Lunk Sentinel #3 and broke the glass. I thought my new interest was
> over.
> I looked everywhere for ways to cut a new glass, nothing seemed possible.
> I
> visited my local engine club and the world opened up. I now have several
> working oilers and make my own gaskets with homemade 'biscuit cutter' made
> from a hole saw set from Harbor Freight ($4 on sale). Two sets & a few
> minutes of grinding off the teeth and I can cut sizes #0-6. Various pipes
> filed the same way will cut the scraps into lower gaskets. I don't like
> waste.
> Carlton Scott
> Lakeland, FL



From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed May  2 15:26:20 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 08:26:20 +1000
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070503082403.01b56f80@ncable.com.au>

G'day all, are there any of you Ozzies going to lake goldsmith this 
weekend? I will be traveling down over night Saturday to spend the 
day Sunday at the rally. First time that I will see it. If your going 
I could look you up and say g'day.
regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May  2 15:47:57 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:47:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<2438.165.206.180.53.1178107256.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <02bc01c78d0d$c428fbe0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

They work ok when I have had to use them.
You dont need em over tight to hold the oil in.
Another thing is if you get long ones, they can be cut and glued with 
superglue. So you can make the size you need.
There are all diameters available. I have some 1/16 long ones that get cut n 
glued as needed, along with the bigger sizes.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> Yeah, thanks - will have to give them a try.
> Any preference as to the diameter, thick or thin? Will they "roll inward"
> when you snug things down?
>
> Bill
>
>> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>
>>
>>>O rings
>>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
>>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>>
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From Doug.Cockram at toyota.com.au  Wed May  2 16:08:51 2007
From: Doug.Cockram at toyota.com.au (Doug.Cockram at toyota.com.au)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:08:51 -1200
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
Message-ID: <OF8D8A3DBC.182F693A-ONCA2572CF.007D5706-0C2572CF.007F26E7@toyota.com.au>

Gyda Russell
Yes I'LL be there as I have for the last 8 Years or so.
You can Find me in the Sunshine compond ( the only compound with a
traditional split log post and rail fence)
Just opposite the SUNSHINE SHED on the left as you walk in the exhibitors
gate from the main car park.
I'M not too hard to find ,
My 2 ton ENGINE RIG comprising,
1930 somthing Crossely hot bulb/ hot  tube ignition engine with orignal
10kva 3 phase  / 240v + neutral alternator attached
Is conspicuous by its presence.

Beware Goldsmith is a drug, as are old engines, once you've been there
You'll keep coming back.

Classic statement
As a Good Engine friends partener once said around the dinner table after
she had cooked a briiliant roast,
I wish I was an engine then I'd get stroked every night.

Look forward to seeing you at godly. regards doug cockram






                                                                                                                                                  
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G'day all, are there any of you Ozzies going to lake goldsmith this
weekend? I will be traveling down over night Saturday to spend the
day Sunday at the rally. First time that I will see it. If your going
I could look you up and say g'day.
regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed May  2 16:25:59 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:25:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
References: <005701c78c5a$89b479c0$240110ac@FAMILY><00cc01c78c61$5bb407f0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b><008601c78c63$17c5fa10$240110ac@FAMILY><2438.165.206.180.53.1178107256.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
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Message-ID: <001a01c78d11$3e8a4d00$6cf01fd3@Edd>

I go along with Reg.I have been  using O rings in my oilers for years and 
have had no trouble at all.I just go and buy the real cheap assortment 
kits.They are $25.00 here and have a big range of sizes and what they don't 
have I make.I also use these same O rings on my ignitors that have a round 
boss on them and they work great.I don't know what they are made from,maybe 
some real cheap material but they don't swell or burn.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?


> They work ok when I have had to use them.
> You dont need em over tight to hold the oil in.
> Another thing is if you get long ones, they can be cut and glued with
> superglue. So you can make the size you need.
> There are all diameters available. I have some 1/16 long ones that get cut 
> n
> glued as needed, along with the bigger sizes.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>
>
>> Yeah, thanks - will have to give them a try.
>> Any preference as to the diameter, thick or thin? Will they "roll inward"
>> when you snug things down?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> Never thought about O-rings Reg, thanks.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>>
>>>
>>>>O rings
>>>> Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 AM
>>>> Subject: [SEL] Gasket material for oilers?
>>>>
>>>
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From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com  Wed May  2 18:29:53 2007
From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 11:29:53 +1000
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070503082403.01b56f80@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY137-F14912447EA2812977B1BF7BA410@phx.gbl>

G'day Russell, i will be there from friday till sunday,catch up with you 
then,I am taking the YB stover,cheers Dave


>From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: SEL <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
>Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 08:26:20 +1000
>
>G'day all, are there any of you Ozzies going to lake goldsmith this
>weekend? I will be traveling down over night Saturday to spend the
>day Sunday at the rally. First time that I will see it. If your going
>I could look you up and say g'day.
>regards Russell
>Russell Gilbert
>Sunny Sunraysia
>russell at ncable.com.au
>http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed May  2 22:16:16 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 01:16:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New Way Engine help needed.
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070503011125.03571650@pop3.wcoil.com>

If anyone can help Arthur with his questions please contact him at the 
address ARTHUR WILLIAMS  <tok at tesco.net>

 >Hello,
 >I KNOW THIS MAY BE A LONG SHOT BUT CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH A ENGINE THAT 
I AM RESTORING. IT >IS A NEW WAY CH TYPE  AND I AM LOOKING FOR A CARBURETOR 
FOR THIS ENGINE . IT IS A UPDRAUGHT >HOLY TYPE AND ALSO THE CORRECT DECALS 
FOR THE ENGINE. IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THIS >ONE . IT WILL BE MOST 
WELCOMED/APPRICIATED.
 >BEST REGARDS
 >ARTHUR WILLIAMS  <tok at tesco.net>
 >



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu May  3 02:11:03 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:11:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] lake goldsmith rally
In-Reply-To: <OF8D8A3DBC.182F693A-ONCA2572CF.007D5706-0C2572CF.007F26E7@toyota.com.au>
Message-ID: <20070503091058.MFRZ12803.oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Doug,
	I guess that this would be your big Crossley:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg06/lg060485.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg06/lg060483.JPG

I saw it running when I was down there in November last year :)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Gyda Russell
Yes I'LL be there as I have for the last 8 Years or so.
You can Find me in the Sunshine compond ( the only compound with a
traditional split log post and rail fence)
Just opposite the SUNSHINE SHED on the left as you walk in the exhibitors
gate from the main car park.
I'M not too hard to find ,
My 2 ton ENGINE RIG comprising,
1930 somthing Crossely hot bulb/ hot  tube ignition engine with orignal
10kva 3 phase  / 240v + neutral alternator attached
Is conspicuous by its presence.

Beware Goldsmith is a drug, as are old engines, once you've been there
You'll keep coming back.

Classic statement
As a Good Engine friends partener once said around the dinner table after
she had cooked a briiliant roast,
I wish I was an engine then I'd get stroked every night.

Look forward to seeing you at godly. regards doug cockram








From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  3 15:24:33 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:24:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Looking for Someone?
Message-ID: <004801c78dd1$d3c1e750$240110ac@FAMILY>

I just received a copy of "Working Instructions for the Petter Junior Oil Engine 1922 Model" from some engineman who lives at 

39 Dods Drive
Alton Ontario Canada
L7K OC7

There was no name, just an address and I want to thank whoever sent it to me, to my knowledge I was not expecting this but then again it is hard for me to remember what happened an hour ago if you know what I mean.

If the person who sent this to me sees this please respond to it or if someone knows some engineman who lives at this address in Canada please contact me.

Thanks,

Paul


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May  3 15:52:07 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 17:52:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Kewanee Book/Glenn Karch
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503174239.0ddc7de8@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Today I receives the two Kawanee books that I ordered from Glenn Karch. I 
can sure recommend them to anyone who is interested in the history of 
gasoline engines and water pumping equipment from the mid 1800's until the 
demise of the company in 1954. Glenn has done a GREAT job on his newest 
book THE KEWANEE ENGINE STORY! Thanks Glenn!
	Dave
PS,  Glenn, The check is in the snail!



From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May  3 16:51:13 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 19:51:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
Message-ID: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>

Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next week.....
Curt Holland


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May  3 17:54:35 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 19:54:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
In-Reply-To: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>

At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next week.....
>Curt Holland

Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
         LY Me 



From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May  3 17:06:58 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:06:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>

Oh my, what good friends I have......sigh.
Curt

Dave Rotigel wrote:
> At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>   
>> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next week.....
>> Curt Holland
>>     
>
> Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
>          LY Me 
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>   



From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May  3 18:58:37 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:58:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
In-Reply-To: <463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
	<463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070503205505.0deb8598@mail.alltel.net>

doG Damn, that was intended to go ONLY to Missy!
         Dave
PS, Curt, You have to know that I'm only kidding.
PPS, Missy, The dates you sent are fine with me. See you then!

At 07:06 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>Oh my, what good friends I have......sigh.
>Curt
>
>Dave Rotigel wrote:
> > At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
> week.....
> >> Curt Holland
> >>
> >
> > Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
> >          LY Me
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> >
> >
>
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>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Thu May  3 18:08:59 2007
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 21:08:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c78de8$ccc0b960$200c94ce@Ed>

Hi Curt,

I live about 7 miles North of Danbury, near the NY border, North of I -84. 
Out club is having a pig roast on Sunday. You would be welcome.

Ed Stoller
24 Candlewood Dr.
New Fairfield, CT  06812
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL (Oldengine.org)" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?


> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
> week.....
> Curt Holland
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Thu May  3 18:41:50 2007
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 21:41:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <00a301c78ded$63d97630$200c94ce@Ed>

Hi Curt,

I live about 7 miles North of Danbury, near the NY border, North of I -84. 
Out club is having a pig roast on Sunday. You would be welcome.

Ed Stoller
24 Candlewood Dr.
New Fairfield, CT  06812
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL (Oldengine.org)" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?


> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
> week.....
> Curt Holland
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu May  3 19:16:30 2007
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 22:16:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?
References: <463A7571.3020307@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070503195333.0dea6918@mail.alltel.net>
	<463A7922.6080607@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <002401c78df2$3b02f4c0$336d4b47@mikecomp>

It's a looooong line.......


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL members in Connecticut?


> Oh my, what good friends I have......sigh.
> Curt
>
> Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> At 06:51 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>> Any listers in Connecticut? May be there on business some of next 
>>> week.....
>>> Curt Holland
>>>
>>
>> Hi Missy, Let me know the dates that Curt will be gone. See you soon!
>>          LY Me
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri May  4 02:24:03 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 11:24:03 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Another Scam ?
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         I thought you'd like to see this.
         One of our older collectors was selling his stuff off so I put a 
page and pics on my webpage so that interested people could have a look and 
mailed the address to my list of "local collectors". This was about a month 
ago.
         I got the following eMail today:
****************
From: tope fagunwa <segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: i will like to purchase this goods
To: jerrye at cyberserv.co.za
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
X-RBL-Warning: BADWHOIS: "Inaccurate or missing WHOIS data"
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: "Not supporting abuse at domain"
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: "Not supporting postmaster at domain"
X-Declude-Sender: segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com [68.142.207.248]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D813f01990000ae32.smd
X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A090202.463A80C2.0021,ss=1,fgs=0
X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 for spam. 
"http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm"
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [3] at 02:41:52 on 04 May 2007
X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], BADWHOIS [3], NOABUSE [2], NOPOSTMASTER 
[1], FILTER-COUNTRY [0], ZEROHOUR [0]
X-Country-Chain: ISRAEL->UNITED STATES->destination
X-RCPT-TO: <jerrye at cyberserv.co.za>
X-IMail-ThreadID: 813f01990000ae32


Dear Sir,
              I am the purchasing manager of Kesobi Associate Limited here 
in Nigeria,our office is located at 2 eyo street.palm-grove Lagos,Nigeria.
              I found your address on the website,i will like to purchase 
(1954 Massey Harris 744 tractor,Southern Cross AC 5hp tank cooled,Listers 
Machine model A,Armstrong Siddeley aircooled diesel) from you.
               Fisrtly,i will like to know if those items are in good 
condition,moreover i will like to know the last price.Which i will come 
with my chief engineer to inspect those goods and to purchase it.

                I will look forwrd to hear back from you soonest.

Thanks

Temitope .S. Fagunwa
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
****************
         I think the Yahoo address is the biggest giveaway! I think I'll 
play along with this one and have some fun (don't worry, I'm not stupid).
         Maybe I should get myself a bunch of Yahoo addresses and flood his 
mailbox with offers of vintage tractors and engines from across the world 
(all fictitious of course).
         I've answered him asking for details of his "company" and a copy 
of the company registration as well as a copy of his Identification 
Document and how he proposes to pay - just to get the thing going.
         Why would someone want to fly himself and his chief engineer 
halfway across Africa from Nigeria (I have no doubt that he is nowhere near 
Nigeria) to inspect (and buy) a few "common" vintage engines whose total 
value would be a fraction of the price of air tickets? I'm also pretty sure 
that he does not have a clue as to what these engines are or what they were 
used for.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri May  4 08:59:16 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Another Scam ?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <3010.165.206.180.53.1178294356.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Yeah, purchase with a credit card, then the means they will want shipment
will allow them to divert.
Geesh, the reason these still exist/happen is that people still fall for
this.

Bill

> Hi Guys,
>          I thought you'd like to see this.
>          One of our older collectors was selling his stuff off so I put a
> page and pics on my webpage so that interested people could have a look
> and
> mailed the address to my list of "local collectors". This was about a
> month
> ago.
>          I got the following eMail today:
> ****************
> From: tope fagunwa <segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: i will like to purchase this goods
> To: jerrye at cyberserv.co.za
> X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
> X-RBL-Warning: BADWHOIS: "Inaccurate or missing WHOIS data"
> X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: "Not supporting abuse at domain"
> X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: "Not supporting postmaster at domain"
> X-Declude-Sender: segfagdvd2000 at yahoo.com [68.142.207.248]
> X-Declude-Spoolname: D813f01990000ae32.smd
> X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A090202.463A80C2.0021,ss=1,fgs=0
> X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 for spam.
> "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm"
> X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [3] at 02:41:52 on 04 May 2007
> X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], BADWHOIS [3], NOABUSE [2], NOPOSTMASTER
> [1], FILTER-COUNTRY [0], ZEROHOUR [0]
> X-Country-Chain: ISRAEL->UNITED STATES->destination
> X-RCPT-TO: <jerrye at cyberserv.co.za>
> X-IMail-ThreadID: 813f01990000ae32
>
>
> Dear Sir,
>               I am the purchasing manager of Kesobi Associate Limited here
> in Nigeria,our office is located at 2 eyo street.palm-grove Lagos,Nigeria.
>               I found your address on the website,i will like to purchase
> (1954 Massey Harris 744 tractor,Southern Cross AC 5hp tank cooled,Listers
> Machine model A,Armstrong Siddeley aircooled diesel) from you.
>                Fisrtly,i will like to know if those items are in good
> condition,moreover i will like to know the last price.Which i will come
> with my chief engineer to inspect those goods and to purchase it.
>
>                 I will look forwrd to hear back from you soonest.
>
> Thanks
>
> Temitope .S. Fagunwa
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> ****************
>          I think the Yahoo address is the biggest giveaway! I think I'll
> play along with this one and have some fun (don't worry, I'm not stupid).
>          Maybe I should get myself a bunch of Yahoo addresses and flood
> his
> mailbox with offers of vintage tractors and engines from across the world
> (all fictitious of course).
>          I've answered him asking for details of his "company" and a copy
> of the company registration as well as a copy of his Identification
> Document and how he proposes to pay - just to get the thing going.
>          Why would someone want to fly himself and his chief engineer
> halfway across Africa from Nigeria (I have no doubt that he is nowhere
> near
> Nigeria) to inspect (and buy) a few "common" vintage engines whose total
> value would be a fraction of the price of air tickets? I'm also pretty
> sure
> that he does not have a clue as to what these engines are or what they
> were
> used for.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
> Cell: 083 293 7191
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri May  4 12:39:31 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 21:39:31 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the lists.
         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby 
because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and 
there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the 
flywheel.
         Here is what I came up with:

<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>

         I hope it is of help to someone.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri May  4 12:57:12 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 15:57:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Kewanee engine book
In-Reply-To: <005801c7809b$d21ed270$bff7123f@D8LJ7K91>
References: <005801c7809b$d21ed270$bff7123f@D8LJ7K91>
Message-ID: <463B9018.6060603@scrtc.com>

Glenn,
    I just read Dave R's glowing report about your Kewanee book.  Like 
your others literary efforts, it sounds like a "must have".   I'll be in 
touch about how to order one.  See you and other SEL friends soon.

Tommy



>Hi to all,
>
>I have just completed one of my winter projects.  I have  made up a few copies of a new book I just published entitled "The Kewanee Engine Story".  If you are interested, contact me for more details.
>
>Glenn Karch
>Hercules Historian
>Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>  
>



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Fri May  4 15:40:04 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 08:40:04 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000801c78e9d$29743600$6cf01fd3@Edd>

Very well done Jerry and the article is well presented and easy to follow.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:39 AM
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller


> Hi Guys,
>         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the 
> lists.
>         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby
> because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
>         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and
> there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
>         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the
> flywheel.
>         Here is what I came up with:
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>
>
>         I hope it is of help to someone.
>
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
> Cell: 083 293 7191
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  4 15:58:36 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:58:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <007e01c78e9f$c0007c30$240110ac@FAMILY>

Fantastic idea Jerry and an absolute super write up with pictures. This will 
definitely be printed out and stored in a safe place for future use. Thanks 
so much for taking the time to photograph and document this for all of us to 
see and use. This should be included in an upcoming edition of the GAS 
Engine Magazine in my opinion.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller


> Hi Guys,
>         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the 
> lists.
>         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby
> because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
>         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and
> there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
>         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the
> flywheel.
>         Here is what I came up with:
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>
>
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  4 16:12:59 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:12:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504213235.00a8dc00@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00a501c78ea1$c2bb92a0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Jerry when I click on "see him" I get a message that this page cannot be 
found.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller


> Hi Guys,
>         There have been many discussions about removing Gib keys on the 
> lists.
>         I needed something to pull the key on my restored Ruston & Hornsby
> because it had an oil leak on the timing gear cover.
>         This cover is right up against the inside of the flywheel and
> there is no way of removing it without removing the flywheel.
>         I did not want to use anything that would damage the paint on the
> flywheel.
>         Here is what I came up with:
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/gibpull/index.htm>
>
>         I 




From rdhaskell at juno.com  Fri May  4 17:04:00 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:04:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070504.170401.2276.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
The past two days I have been working on my Blackstone engine.  The first
step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft to get it cleaned up and
to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of that effort.  Start here:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524614


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri May  4 17:34:29 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:34:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <20070504.170401.2276.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c78ead$253d9df0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Great pictures Ron, looks like you are coming right along. It is amazing 
that you got that flywheel off without braking some of the spokes.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress


> Hi all.
> The past two days I have been working on my Blackstone engine.  The first
> step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft to get it cleaned up and
> to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of that effort.  Start here:
>
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524614
>
>
> 



From christison at coastalnet.com  Fri May  4 18:04:13 2007
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:04:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
Message-ID: <380-220075651412973@coastalnet.com>

Jerry,

Great idea for making this tool.  I am sure a lot of folks will find
this information to be of value to them.  I have taken the liberty 
of including a link to your page in my resources page at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/resources/

Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.

Take care.

Ken Christison
www.oldiron-nut.com
www.kenskritters.com





From rdhaskell at juno.com  Fri May  4 19:01:35 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:01:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070504.190135.2276.5.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Paul.
The chain pulling on the spokes took very little effort, I could pump the
jack with out the handle.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:34:29 -0500 "Paul Maples"
<paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> writes:
> Great pictures Ron, looks like you are coming right along. It is 
> amazing 
> that you got that flywheel off without braking some of the spokes.
> 
> Paul


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sat May  5 05:12:51 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 07:12:51 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <20070504.170401.2276.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEGKFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Ron:

I don't think the factory wanted that wheel to come off!

I wonder why the keys were set at a 45 degree angle.  Is there some advantage?

"Spring Injection"?  How does that work?  Diesel?  Semi Diesel?  Oil engine?

That's gonna be a nice engine when you get finished.  

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 07:04 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; 
> stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
> 
> 
> Hi all.
> The past two days I have been working on my 
> Blackstone engine.  The first
> step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft 
> to get it cleaned up and
> to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of 
> that effort.  Start here:
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=300937
0&a=30275996&p=75524614


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0




From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Sat May  5 09:34:54 2007
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 02:04:54 +0930
Subject: [SEL] Another Scam ?
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070504105101.04c656b8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<3010.165.206.180.53.1178294356.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c78f33$4fe96b70$6ec8a03a@chaos>

these guys are experts at scamming the scammers, 
http://www.419fun.com/baits.htm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Another Scam ?


> Yeah, purchase with a credit card, then the means they will want shipment
> will allow them to divert.
> Geesh, the reason these still exist/happen is that people still fall for
> this.
>
> Bill
>
>> Hi Guys,




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  5 10:08:29 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:08:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sherwood #1 Oiler - Need help
Message-ID: <00fb01c78f38$01705cb0$240110ac@FAMILY>

I would like to talk to anyone who has a #1 Sherwood Oiler, it is in regards to whether or not your #1 Sherwood Oiler has a check ball or not.

Thanks,

Paul



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:44:53 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:44:53 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012531.SM00320@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:58:36 -0500
>From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>Fantastic idea Jerry and an absolute super write up with pictures. This will
>definitely be printed out and stored in a safe place for future use. Thanks
>so much for taking the time to photograph and document this for all of us to
>see and use. This should be included in an upcoming edition of the GAS
>Engine Magazine in my opinion.
>Paul

Thanks for the positive reply Paul,
         It's good to know that someone would find it useful.
         I'd love to submit it to GEM but do not get the mag here (and do 
not know of anyone who does). Any suggestions as to how to go about 
submitting it?


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:32:24 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:32:24 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070505192738.00aa3bd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:12:59 -0500
>From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>
>Jerry when I click on "see him" I get a message that this page cannot be
>found.
>Paul


OOps! Sorry Paul (and others),
         All fixed up now (plus another added). I put that pic up 18 months 
ago and in this new page just typed the name from memory - I was wrong, the 
memory is not as good as it used to be :-).

Here is a direct link:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone2.JPG>
and another view:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone1.JPG>

Thanks for pointing it out.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:52:38 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012468.SM01836@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:04:00 -0700
>From: rdhaskell at juno.com
>Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com, stationary-engine at oldengine.org
>Hi all.
>The past two days I have been working on my Blackstone engine.  The first
>step was getting the flywheel off the crankshaft to get it cleaned up and
>to the proper size.  Here are a few pictures of that effort.  Start here:
>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524614
>Ron Haskell

Hi Ron,
         Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire your 
ingenuity and perseverance.
My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
         As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were inserted 
diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a 
"manufacturing reason" ?


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 10:54:31 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:54:31 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012359.SM01276@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:04:13 -0400
>From: "Ken Christison" <christison at coastalnet.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>
>Jerry,
>Great idea for making this tool.  I am sure a lot of folks will find
>this information to be of value to them.  I have taken the liberty
>of including a link to your page in my resources page at:
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/resources/
>Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.
>Take care.
>Ken Christison
>www.oldiron-nut.com

Thanks for the Cudo's Ken,
         Thanks also for the link.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat May  5 11:05:32 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 20:05:32 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1178380802.3524.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <200705052012421.SM01836@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 08:40:04 +1000
>From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>
>Very well done Jerry and the article is well presented and easy to follow.
>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>Australia

Thanks Edd,
         I appreciate your reply knowing what you are capable of doing.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat May  5 14:33:21 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 14:33:21 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 Hi Jerry.
I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
they cut the key ways the way they did.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
writes:
> Hi Ron,
>          Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire 
> your 
> ingenuity and perseverance.
> My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>          As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were 
> inserted 
> diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a 
> "manufacturing reason" ?


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  5 15:43:32 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 17:43:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Gib key puller
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070505192738.00aa3bd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <013501c78f66$cffbf2a0$240110ac@FAMILY>

WOW Jerry, you done a fantastic job on restoring the engine, an absolutely 
magnificent job, thanks so much for sharing.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller


> At 06:00 PM 05/05/2007, you wrote:
>>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 18:12:59 -0500
>>From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gib key puller
>>
>>Jerry when I click on "see him" I get a message that this page cannot be
>>found.
>>Paul
>
>
> OOps! Sorry Paul (and others),
>         All fixed up now (plus another added). I put that pic up 18 months
> ago and in this new page just typed the name from memory - I was wrong, 
> the
> memory is not as good as it used to be :-).
>
> Here is a direct link:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone2.JPG>
> and another view:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Rustydone1.JPG>
>
> Thanks for pointing it out.
> 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  5 17:06:00 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 19:06:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Skype
Message-ID: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>

I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for someone who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call now.

Thanks

Paul



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat May  5 20:13:41 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:13:41 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070505.201342.1972.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 Hi Elden.
There are a lot of things I don't know about this engine, I am not sure
what the spring injection means.  Probably it has a spring to pressurize
the fuel and not a high pressure pump.  It is to run on 

"From soon after the First World War the Carter brothers began working to
develop an improved for of fuel injection system for their engines. Their
work culminated in 1924 with the introduction of the ?Spring Injection?
mechanism. Simple in both design and operation it allowed a measured
amount of fuel to be pumped to the injection chamber at a precise moment
and for sufficient time for the fuel to be fully burnt. With close
control of fuel consumed and an ability to start from cold and to run on
practically any fuel, the company claimed the spring injection engine
could successfully challenge steam in its last stronghold, the power
station steam turbine. "
Here is a picture of the mechanism.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/blkstone/History8.htm
They were designed to run on "residual oil"  #2 Diesels will work well.
On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:12:51 -0500 "Elden DuRand" <edurand at mchsi.com>
writes:
> Ron:
> 
> I don't think the factory wanted that wheel to come off!
> 
> I wonder why the keys were set at a 45 degree angle.  Is there some 
> advantage?
> 
> "Spring Injection"?  How does that work?  Diesel?  Semi Diesel?  Oil 
> engine?
> 
> That's gonna be a nice engine when you get finished.  
> 
> Take care - Elden
> edurand at mchsi.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 
>


From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sun May  6 01:23:27 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 04:23:27 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer
Message-ID: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>

Hi,
 
Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very 
easy to make one.
 

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU) 
 

 
Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria, Ca



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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun May  6 03:34:56 2007
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 10:34:56 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Skype
Message-ID: <050620071034.10202.463DAF50000572C6000027DA219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Paul,
Trying to skype you right now and shows you off line.  Best bet is to 
completely close it down and reboot.
Curt


> I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for someone 
> who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call now.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Paul
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May  6 04:18:37 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:18:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Skype
References: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

I hope you do better with them than me.
After a lot of 'no help' from them , I gave up and dumped em.
Aint really missed it either.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: [SEL] Skype


>I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for 
>someone who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call now.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May  6 04:20:15 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:20:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Skype
References: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <001501c78fd0$856a3c50$0601a8c0@altech>

Oh come Reggy, we will talk to you, it's easy'

Pete, Oz






>I hope you do better with them than me.
> After a lot of 'no help' from them , I gave up and dumped em.
> Aint really missed it either.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:06 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Skype
>
>
>>I have had some trouble with Skype and I have re-loaded it. I need for
>>someone who uses Skype to call me so I can see if I have it fixed.Call 
>>now.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun May  6 06:08:21 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 08:08:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <20070505.201342.1972.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEHJFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Ron:

That was an interesting history.  Thanks for the link.  Keep us informed of progress with the Blackstone.

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:14 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
> 
> 
>  Hi Elden.
> There are a lot of things I don't know about this 
> engine, I am not sure
> what the spring injection means.  Probably it has 
> a spring to pressurize
> the fuel and not a high pressure pump.  It is to run on 
> 
> "From soon after the First World War the Carter 
> brothers began working to
> develop an improved for of fuel injection system 
> for their engines. Their
> work culminated in 1924 with the introduction of 
> the Spring Injection
> mechanism. Simple in both design and operation it 
> allowed a measured
> amount of fuel to be pumped to the injection 
> chamber at a precise moment
> and for sufficient time for the fuel to be fully 
> burnt. With close
> control of fuel consumed and an ability to start 
> from cold and to run on
> practically any fuel, the company claimed the 
> spring injection engine
> could successfully challenge steam in its last 
> stronghold, the power
> station steam turbine. "
> Here is a picture of the mechanism.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/blkstone/History8.htm
> They were designed to run on "residual oil"  #2 
> Diesels will work well.




From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun May  6 05:24:53 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 08:24:53 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <cc5.10c80e65.336f2315@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/5/2007 7:10:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
edurand at mchsi.com writes:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=300937
0&a=30275996&p=75524614

 
Ron,
 
What a challenge to get that long of keys out.  How long were they and were 
they tapered or straight?  Two in the flywheel and at 45 degrees to shaft!!!  
 
Great job.
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun May  6 09:10:37 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 11:10:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer
In-Reply-To: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070506110837.0464dab0@mail.alltel.net>

At 03:23 AM 5/6/2007, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>easy to make one.
>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>Francis  Maciel

Hi Francis, That's about neater than hell. I'm off to make one--7 links of 
chain and a 3' piece of 3/8" steel rod should about do it! THANKS!
         Dave 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun May  6 11:03:30 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 14:03:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>

That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis informed 
or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is, 
something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one 
used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from one 
of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost it 
or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using it 
in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, an 
odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir 
his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a 
drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a socket 
If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I have 
his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to the 
rod too if I remember right.
  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.

See ya all at Portland Swap!!
                                                       TTYL,    Mark

At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>easy to make one.
>
>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>
>Francis  Maciel
>Santa Maria, Ca

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 12:36:53 2007
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 15:36:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do 
is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable 
improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you 
have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent 
attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap 
somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right 
way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
Skip

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis 
> informed
> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one
> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from one
> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost 
> it
> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using 
> it
> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, an
> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir
> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a 
> socket
> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I have
> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to 
> the
> rod too if I remember right.
>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>
> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>
> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>>easy to make one.
>>
>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>
>>Francis  Maciel
>>Santa Maria, Ca
>
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>
> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
> Parts lists available on request.
>
> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell 
> Phone
> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
> possible.
> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I 
> represent
> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
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> 9:07 AM
> 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May  6 14:25:44 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:25:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <001001c79025$1b49f590$0601a8c0@altech>

It has a Patent Pending which is enforceable, I am still going to make one 
this morning.

Peter, Oz



>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
> is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
> improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
> have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
> attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
> somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
> way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
> Skip
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>
>
>> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
>> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis
>> informed
>> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
>> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one
>> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from 
>> one
>> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost
>> it
>> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using
>> it
>> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, an
>> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir
>> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
>> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a
>> socket
>> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I 
>> have
>> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to
>> the
>> rod too if I remember right.
>>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>>
>> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>>
>> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - very
>>>easy to make one.
>>>
>>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>>
>>>Francis  Maciel
>>>Santa Maria, Ca
>>
>> Mark & Christine Shulaw
>> 454 Co. Rd. 33
>> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>>
>> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
>> Parts lists available on request.
>>
>> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
>> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell
>> Phone
>> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
>> possible.
>> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I
>> represent
>> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
>> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>> 9:07 AM
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>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May  6 14:49:28 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:49:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
	<001001c79025$1b49f590$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <021c01c79028$6e95a160$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

If you make it for yourself and dont try selling em, who really cares?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> It has a Patent Pending which is enforceable, I am still going to make one
> this morning.
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>> is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>> improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>> have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>> attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>> somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the 
>> right
>> way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>> Skip
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>>
>>
>>> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
>>> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis
>>> informed
>>> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
>>> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen one
>>> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from
>>> one
>>> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have lost
>>> it
>>> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him using
>>> it
>>> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain, 
>>> an
>>> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to stir
>>> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
>>> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a
>>> socket
>>> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I
>>> have
>>> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to
>>> the
>>> rod too if I remember right.
>>>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>>>
>>> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>>>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>>>
>>> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer - 
>>>>very
>>>>easy to make one.
>>>>
>>>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>>>
>>>>Francis  Maciel
>>>>Santa Maria, Ca
>>>
>>> Mark & Christine Shulaw
>>> 454 Co. Rd. 33
>>> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>>>
>>> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
>>> Parts lists available on request.
>>>
>>> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
>>> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell
>>> Phone
>>> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls 
>>> if
>>> possible.
>>> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I
>>> represent
>>> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist 
>>> and
>>> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>> 9:07 AM
>>>
>>
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From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 16:11:03 2007
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 19:11:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB><001001c79025$1b49f590$0601a8c0@altech>
	<021c01c79028$6e95a160$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <001c01c79033$d1f93310$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

No one.
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> If you make it for yourself and dont try selling em, who really cares?
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>
>
>> It has a Patent Pending which is enforceable, I am still going to make 
>> one
>> this morning.
>>
>> Peter, Oz
>>
>>
>>
>>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to 
>>>do
>>> is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>>> improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>>> have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive 
>>> patent
>>> attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>>> somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the
>>> right
>>> way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
>>>
>>>
>>>> That tool brings back a momory I had forgotten.
>>>> I noticed they say a "New Invention"  These fellows are either mis
>>>> informed
>>>> or just simply unaware that this is not a new idea. You know how it is,
>>>> something gets so old or forgotten and it becomes new again.  I seen 
>>>> one
>>>> used a long time ago. It was probably home made or maybe procured from
>>>> one
>>>> of the Rail Roads he used to work for knowing Grandpa. He must have 
>>>> lost
>>>> it
>>>> or loaned it out at one time or another cause I don't remember him 
>>>> using
>>>> it
>>>> in later years. Simple to make, like Dave says 7 or so links of chain,
>>>> an
>>>> odd number of links and a rod and wala a mixer.  Grampa  used it to 
>>>> stir
>>>> his favorite roof coating, fibred aluminum roof paint. He didn't have a
>>>> drill to power it but he did have a 1/2" electric drive impact and a
>>>> socket
>>>> If I  remember right fit a large bolt welded to the end of the rod. I
>>>> have
>>>> his old Ingersol impact now. The center link of the chain was welded to
>>>> the
>>>> rod too if I remember right.
>>>>  It got real messy if you were not carefull but it worked.
>>>>
>>>> See ya all at Portland Swap!!
>>>>                                                       TTYL,    Mark
>>>>
>>>> At 04:23 AM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>Many of us at times need to mix paint.  Check out this cool  mixer -
>>>>>very
>>>>>easy to make one.
>>>>>
>>>>>_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU_
>>>>>(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXG0LEAiLU)
>>>>>
>>>>>Francis  Maciel
>>>>>Santa Maria, Ca
>>>>
>>>> Mark & Christine Shulaw
>>>> 454 Co. Rd. 33
>>>> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>>>>
>>>> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
>>>> Parts lists available on request.
>>>>
>>>> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
>>>> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell
>>>> Phone
>>>> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls
>>>> if
>>>> possible.
>>>> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I
>>>> represent
>>>> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist
>>>> and
>>>> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 5/6/2007
>>>> 9:07 AM
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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> 9:07 AM
>
> 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun May  6 16:32:57 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 19:32:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi Skip,
  Thats so true. If the patent office has nothing on file like it they will 
likely get a patent. Many times things get invented and built just for ones 
own use or for use in their shop or business and thats likely what grandpas 
was. And folks just simply never do anything other then use them. There was 
a need it was figured out how to satisify the need and that was the end of 
that. So many years later someone has the initiative to patent it as their 
idea when they do the same.  And truely they may very well have figured 
their version out themselves without ever knowing someone else already did 
it. This happens so many times.
  Patents are funny things. You can have an Iron clad patent but if you do 
not have the money to defend or enforce it then its not worth a darn.
  Their ad says
>A new Mixing device with patent pending made from 306 stainless that way 
>we can offer a life time guarantee for all kinds of products and goods 
>that need to be mixed up to perfection for applications on construction 
>sites and Home use.CURRENTLY SEEKING INVESTORS FOR THIS PROJECT.

I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark

At 03:36 PM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
>way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>Skip


Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May  6 16:38:34 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:38:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <003701c79037$a9bb8bb0$0601a8c0@altech>

> I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark


Well, at least $999,990, that is if they sell for $10, as I am making mine 
;-)))

Peter, Oz





From nadejack at optusnet.com.au  Sun May  6 18:04:37 2007
From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:04:37 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Back again
In-Reply-To: <01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <017701c78f72$54b350f0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<01b301c78fd0$5060d000$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <463E7B25.1000807@optusnet.com.au>

Greetings to mates old and new. Just returned after a lengthy absence.
Not much new - still got the old car and the two bikes and the 4K 
Buzacott 32 volt lighting plant, as well as various Villiers etc.

Also a few models, "Poppin", the flame gulper and a Stuart Turner 10V
steam engine set up with a 3" boiler etc.

JW?? in Oz




From skipcleveland at bellsouth.net  Sun May  6 18:30:37 2007
From: skipcleveland at bellsouth.net (Skip Cleveland)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:30:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <004001c79047$51382420$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>

If they get enough "INVESTORS" they will ):-/
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> Hi Skip,
>  Thats so true. If the patent office has nothing on file like it they will
> likely get a patent. Many times things get invented and built just for 
> ones
> own use or for use in their shop or business and thats likely what 
> grandpas
> was. And folks just simply never do anything other then use them. There 
> was
> a need it was figured out how to satisify the need and that was the end of
> that. So many years later someone has the initiative to patent it as their
> idea when they do the same.  And truely they may very well have figured
> their version out themselves without ever knowing someone else already did
> it. This happens so many times.
>  Patents are funny things. You can have an Iron clad patent but if you do
> not have the money to defend or enforce it then its not worth a darn.
>  Their ad says
>>A new Mixing device with patent pending made from 306 stainless that way
>>we can offer a life time guarantee for all kinds of products and goods
>>that need to be mixed up to perfection for applications on construction
>>sites and Home use.CURRENTLY SEEKING INVESTORS FOR THIS PROJECT.
>
> I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark
>
> At 03:36 PM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>>is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>>improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>>have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>>attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>>somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
>>way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>>Skip
>
>
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>
> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
> Parts lists available on request.
>
> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell 
> Phone
> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
> possible.
> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I 
> represent
> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 9:07 AM
>
> 



From b2 at chooka.net  Sun May  6 18:41:25 2007
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 20:41:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <004001c79047$51382420$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
References: <bf7.15cbf761.336eea7f@aol.com><6.2.1.2.1.20070506133827.02f336f0@pop3.wcoil.com><006901c79015$e6cee460$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB><6.2.1.2.1.20070506190249.02f34e50@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<004001c79047$51382420$6101a8c0@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <03c201c79048$d372a720$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>

Like the old saying goes, when someone with experience and someone with
money join forces, the one with the money will get experience, and the one
with the experience will get money.

B?
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Skip Cleveland
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:31 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic

If they get enough "INVESTORS" they will ):-/ Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Paint Mixer-Off Topic


> Hi Skip,
>  Thats so true. If the patent office has nothing on file like it they will
> likely get a patent. Many times things get invented and built just for 
> ones
> own use or for use in their shop or business and thats likely what 
> grandpas
> was. And folks just simply never do anything other then use them. There 
> was
> a need it was figured out how to satisify the need and that was the end of
> that. So many years later someone has the initiative to patent it as their
> idea when they do the same.  And truely they may very well have figured
> their version out themselves without ever knowing someone else already did
> it. This happens so many times.
>  Patents are funny things. You can have an Iron clad patent but if you do
> not have the money to defend or enforce it then its not worth a darn.
>  Their ad says
>>A new Mixing device with patent pending made from 306 stainless that way
>>we can offer a life time guarantee for all kinds of products and goods
>>that need to be mixed up to perfection for applications on construction
>>sites and Home use.CURRENTLY SEEKING INVESTORS FOR THIS PROJECT.
>
> I hope they make a million on it.  GRINNNN.         TTYL,    Mark
>
> At 03:36 PM 5/6/07, you wrote:
>>I didn't notice if it had a patent number with it, but, all you have to do
>>is prove to the patent examiner that you have a novel and patentable
>>improvement on an existing patented tool or whatever. If they agree, you
>>have a patent and a big target on your back. It takes an expensive patent
>>attourney to make an unbeatable set of claims, if you do it on the cheap
>>somebody can improve on it and on and on and on. If you do do it the right
>>way, somebody will say they had it first. Now that's an expensive one.
>>Skip
>
>
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
>
> Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
> Parts lists available on request.
>
> Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
> Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell 
> Phone
> you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if
> possible.
> I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I 
> represent
> them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and
> hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>
> 

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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun May  6 22:13:50 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 22:13:50 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Engine show pictures.
Message-ID: <20070506.221350.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.  
Yesterday our club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was asked to
participate with the Antique Truck Historical Society at their 22nd
annual antique truck show.  It was held in Riverside California at March
Field Air Museum (the former March Air Force Base)  Here are a few
pictures of our display and some shots of airplanes.  Enjoy.

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32521166&f=0

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon May  7 06:06:35 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:06:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Off Topic: Tornados in Kansas
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070507090401.0305beb0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Just wondering does anyone know if there were any engine Collectors in 
Greensburg KS.  that was affected by the Tornados?

Mark 




From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Mon May  7 06:52:36 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 23:52:36 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Engine show pictures.
References: <20070506.221350.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c790ae$f9444a60$6cf01fd3@Edd>

Nice show and great pics.Thanks for sharing.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: [SEL] Engine show pictures.


> Hi all.  
> Yesterday our club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was asked to
> participate with the Antique Truck Historical Society at their 22nd
> annual antique truck show.  It was held in Riverside California at March
> Field Air Museum (the former March Air Force Base)  Here are a few
> pictures of our display and some shots of airplanes.  Enjoy.
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32521166&f=0
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon May  7 09:10:17 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 12:10:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Off Topic: Tornados in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20070507090401.0305beb0@pop3.wcoil.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.1.20070507090401.0305beb0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <463F4F69.600@scrtc.com>

Mark,
    I was wondering the same thing.  Having lived through exactly the 
same situation 10 years ago, I know what the feelings are.  If there is, 
I'm ready to chip in to help out.  Thanks for thinking of them.

Tommy


>Just wondering does anyone know if there were any engine Collectors in 
>Greensburg KS.  that was affected by the Tornados?
>
>Mark 
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>  
>



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May  7 10:10:25 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:10:25 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070507.101026.1564.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Tom.
The keys were 8" long and not it the best of shape after they were
pulled.  The best of the two has two sides parallel, and the other two
tapered.  The V grove in the crank is narrower at the bottom than at the
top but it is hard to measure precisely.  Definitely different.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:24:53 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes:
>  
> In a message dated 5/5/2007 7:10:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> edurand at mchsi.com writes:
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=300937
> 0&a=30275996&p=75524614
> 
>  
> Ron,
>  
> What a challenge to get that long of keys out.  How long were they 
> and were 
> they tapered or straight?  Two in the flywheel and at 45 degrees to 
> shaft!!!  
>  
> Great job.
>  
>  
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com


From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon May  7 13:50:08 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:50:08 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <cfc.ef89988.3370eb00@aol.com>

Ron,
 
Sounds like they should be standard tapered keys, just put in different!  
Straight side on the shaft and taper on the flywheel just like all the others.
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon May  7 15:07:47 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 08:07:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070508075922.01b56968@ncable.com.au>

G'day all, well I .... & Dad have just done our first Lake Goldsmith 
Rally. Really worth the trip down even though we were rushed a 
little. We left home around 11.15pm and drove until 2.30am. Pulled up 
at a roadside resting place and laid the swags out for about a 4 hour 
sleep and then drove into Goldsmith at 8am. Not a great deal of 
activity until 10am but filled in times just getting our bearings on 
the layout etc and catching up with a couple of list members.  Some 
really nice gear at this place. The sheds are mostly very well 
presented and a credit to all who have put in to get them that way. 
Weather was very kind to us also. Had to leave for home just after 
3pm again in time for a late dinner.

We will make it back again sometime. Anyone who has been undecided to 
go; be ashured you will not regret making the effort.

regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May  7 17:35:39 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 17:35:39 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
Message-ID: <20070507.173539.1284.2.rdhaskell@juno.com>

I don't think you saw this picture:
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009370&a=30275996&p=75524621
The keys go in a little different.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Mon, 7 May 2007 16:50:08 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes:
> Ron,
>  
> Sounds like they should be standard tapered keys, just put in 
> different!  
> Straight side on the shaft and taper on the flywheel just like all 
> the others.
>  
>  
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com


From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Mon May  7 18:49:55 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 20:49:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Greensburg, KS
Message-ID: <BAY127-F4FAED070D526A9A93A0BECB440@phx.gbl>

>>>Just wondering does anyone know if there were any engine Collectors in
Greensburg KS.  that was affected by the Tornados?

>>>Mark

If there were any engine collectors in Greensburg, they were affected.  
There is nothing left; many of the trees don't  even have bark any more.  
There is a 28,000 lb combine that was lifted up and deposited in a large 
puddle/small pond about 60 feet away.


Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway

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From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Tue May  8 11:32:48 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 13:32:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT Greensburg, KS
Message-ID: <BAY127-F35CD07A130191C48543E5DCB440@phx.gbl>

http://www.kansas.com/static/slides/050507tornadoaerials/

11, 12, and 25 are the town's water tower.

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway

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From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue May  8 16:39:13 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 19:39:13 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
Message-ID: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
russell at ncable.com.au writes:

laid the swags out for about a 4 hour 
sleep 

Russel
 
So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May  8 18:18:13 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 20:18:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net>


>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
>sleep
>Russel
>
>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>Tom Schmutz

Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
         Dave 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May  8 17:34:16 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:34:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>

The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear you can buy.

http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml


Peter, Oz


> 
>>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
>>sleep
>>Russel
>>
>>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>>Tom Schmutz
> 
> Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
>         Dave 
> 
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May  8 17:42:33 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 10:42:33 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c791d2$ef37f510$0601a8c0@altech>

The Swag was originally a bit like a sleeping bag that rolled up and was 
carried on the back of hikers or itinerate workers walking the roads in the 
depression days.
The modern Swag is a lot more sophisticated.
http://www.jollyswags.swag.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi?id=54832202336211178670907#Bogong

http://www.brookswags.com/history.php

You see no suit-cases in the wild and wide.
Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures out 
without one. Slung over the pack pony, hanging from the camel, or thrown 
into the back of the truck, with a quart-pot dangling from the strap, they 
stand for house and home and life's achievement.
 Ernestine Hill, "The Great Australian Loneliness" Melbourne 1940.

In Australia, the traditional bedding for outdoor sleeping is the swag.
 These days it's a good quality, foam mattress inside a canvas cover that 
encloses both the bedding and sleeper. Traditionally blankets were used, but 
sleeping-bags are more practical, when it's very cold. The swag is rolled 
and fastened with straps. It's heavier and bulkier than a bivvy bag, but 
it's more comfortable and durable and is perfect for car-camping and other 
occasions when you don't have to carry it. In outback Australia's harsh 
conditions the swag's durability comes into its own.
 TIM McCARTNEY-SNAPE - World renowned climber & adventurer.

http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/L/LawsonHenry/prose/romanceofswag/romanceswag.html

Have a read and learn something.

Peter, Oz








>
> In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> russell at ncable.com.au writes:
>
> laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
> sleep
>
> Russel
>
> So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>
>
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com
>
>
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May  8 19:05:46 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:05:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net>
	<000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070508210419.0486e170@mail.alltel.net>

Damn, I would have sworn that Reg said "fine sheep." Perhaps he said "fine 
sleep."
         Dave

At 07:34 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote:
>The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear you can buy.
>
>http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>
>
>Peter, Oz
>
>
> >
> >>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
> >>sleep
> >>Russel
> >>
> >>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
> >>Tom Schmutz
> >
> > Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
> >         Dave
> >
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  8 21:45:19 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:45:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <cfc.ef89988.3370eb00@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00ff01c791f7$bb368310$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

The only advantage I can see is a greater cross section in shear load.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress


> Ron,
>
> Sounds like they should be standard tapered keys, just put in different!
> Straight side on the shaft and taper on the flywheel just like all the 
> others.
>
>
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> Germoamer at aol.com
>
>
>
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> http://www.aol.com.
>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May  8 23:35:03 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:35:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
References: <bc3.e8f5c9a.33726421@aol.com><6.1.2.0.0.20070508201646.046fa410@mail.alltel.net><000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070508210419.0486e170@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <01ed01c79204$2e69d240$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

SHARP, VERY SHARP!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith


> Damn, I would have sworn that Reg said "fine sheep." Perhaps he said "fine
> sleep."
>         Dave
>
> At 07:34 PM 5/8/2007, you wrote:
>>The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear you can buy.
>>
>>http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>>
>>
>>Peter, Oz
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>laid the swags out for about a 4 hour
>> >>sleep
>> >>Russel
>> >>
>> >>So are swags sleeping gear of sorts?
>> >>Tom Schmutz
>> >
>> > Hi Tom, I think "swags" is a NZ term for sheep!
>> >         Dave
>> >
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>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed May  9 05:12:58 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 07:12:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000701c791d1$c6eb24c0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAELCFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

"Once a jolly Swagman camped beside a billabong,
under the shade of a koolibah tree.........."

NOW, I know what a swag is!  Now, is a billabong (sp?) a lake or something?

AND did I get the name (not to mention the spelling) of the tree right, mate?

Comes back from "Waltzing Matilda" we sang in grade school about a hundred years ago.  It's a wonder what floats, unbidden, to the surface once in a while.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 07:34 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
> 
> 
> The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear 
> you can buy.
> 
> http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
> 
> 
> Peter, Oz




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May  9 05:18:47 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:18:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAELCFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Eldrn
Try this site and read the links in the words of the song.

http://www.brookswags.com/history.php

Koolibah is actually spelt Coolabah.

Peter, Oz




> "Once a jolly Swagman camped beside a billabong,
> under the shade of a koolibah tree.........."
>
> NOW, I know what a swag is!  Now, is a billabong (sp?) a lake or 
> something?
>
> AND did I get the name (not to mention the spelling) of the tree right, 
> mate?
>
> Comes back from "Waltzing Matilda" we sang in grade school about a hundred 
> years ago.  It's a wonder what floats, unbidden, to the surface once in a 
> while.
>
> Take care - Elden
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 07:34 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
>>
>>
>> The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear
>> you can buy.
>>
>> http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>>
>>
>> Peter, Oz
>
>
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> 



From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May  9 05:45:11 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAELCFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <3002.165.206.180.53.1178714711.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Rolf Harris did a good version of Waltzing Matilda where he first
explained a few terms to folks. It was funny and entertaining.

Bill
(a big fan of Rolf's)

> Hi Eldrn
> Try this site and read the links in the words of the song.
>
> http://www.brookswags.com/history.php
>
> Koolibah is actually spelt Coolabah.
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>
>> "Once a jolly Swagman camped beside a billabong,
>> under the shade of a koolibah tree.........."
>>
>> NOW, I know what a swag is!  Now, is a billabong (sp?) a lake or
>> something?
>>
>> AND did I get the name (not to mention the spelling) of the tree right,
>> mate?
>>
>> Comes back from "Waltzing Matilda" we sang in grade school about a
>> hundred
>> years ago.  It's a wonder what floats, unbidden, to the surface once in
>> a
>> while.
>>
>> Take care - Elden
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>>>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 07:34 PM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith
>>>
>>>
>>> The Swag is the best piece of camping out gear
>>> you can buy.
>>>
>>> http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-original.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter, Oz
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed May  9 06:55:08 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:55:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79234$32126710$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOELFFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Peter:

Thanks!

Take care - Elden DuRand
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Peter Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 07:19 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Waltzing Matilda to Lake Goldsmith
> 
> 
> Hi Eldrn
> Try this site and read the links in the words of the song.
> 
> http://www.brookswags.com/history.php
> 
> Koolibah is actually spelt Coolabah.
> 
> Peter, Oz




From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed May  9 06:22:39 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:22:39 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>

bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

regards Russell
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed May  9 06:24:44 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:24:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] another Dave
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232406.01b5dc20@ncable.com.au>

Sorry guys I should go direct but misplaced Daves e-mail for the minute
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Laurel-Kerosene-Tin-Very-Old-Wooden-Advertisement_W0QQitemZ300108339632QQihZ020QQcategoryZ35682QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Wed May  9 07:56:42 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 07:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] JD Dealership in KS after the Tornado
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOELFFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <824932.46587.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just found several hundred photos of the John Deere Dealership in KS.  The
photos were taken by a truck driver who had hauled in a new combine and
was waiting until the morning to unload.  He was in the sleeper of the
semi when it hit. (the link was on another forum)

http://www.hdnews.net/photo/galleries/greensburgtrucker/index.shtml 

I am at awe every time I see the power of nature.  Having gone storm
chasing back in 1994, 95, with my college weather class and 96 with a
friend.  I now just watch and spot storms for the local town.

Steve


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Steve Barr                N9NDE            Downers Grove, IL
          http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr
                      stevebarr at ameritech.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sat May  5 16:07:03 2007
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim and Diane)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 16:07:03 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <013401c78f6a$18858f60$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>

The dual diagonal keys have a much higher shear strength and were many times 
used in situations that were bidirectional.  Probably an overkill for a 
small engine but nevertheless a first class, and quite expensive, way of 
doing the job.

Jim

Jim and Diane
Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
jd.kirkes at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress


Hi Jerry.
I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
they cut the key ways the way they did.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
writes:
> Hi Ron,
>          Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire
> your
> ingenuity and perseverance.
> My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>          As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were
> inserted
> diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a
> "manufacturing reason" ?
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed May  9 19:17:23 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 21:17:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
         Dave

At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>regards Russell



From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed May  9 18:22:35 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:22:35 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
Message-ID: <bca.f61e067.3373cddb@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
plowe at exemail.com.au writes:

Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures out 
without one

 
Peter,
 
Pretty neat camping gear!
 
Thanks,
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Wed May  9 18:40:50 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20070510014022.IXLM28769.oaamta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

The thought scares us as well Dave ;)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
         Dave





From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed May  9 20:14:31 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:14:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Indiana Swap
In-Reply-To: <824932.46587.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOELFFLAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
	<824932.46587.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070509231044.04148bf0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi All,
  I just returned a little while ago from checking things out at Portland 
swap. The grounds look to be in good shape, a bit wet as usual but good. 
And the line is starting to form in the Fairgrounds. There was 7  in line 
when I left there at 5:30

                                                    TTYL,   Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May  9 20:36:09 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:36:09 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c792b4$59749690$0601a8c0@altech>

10 packets of nicotine patches, a plane ticket and your here for the time of 
your life, come Dave, live a little mate ;-)))
I guess you are still smoking, if not there is absolutely no excuse.

Peter, Oz




> Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
>         Dave
>
> At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>>bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>regards Russell
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May  9 20:36:56 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:36:56 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
References: <bca.f61e067.3373cddb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003201c792b4$75652540$0601a8c0@altech>

>
> In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> plowe at exemail.com.au writes:
>
> Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures 
> out
> without one
>
> Peter,
>
> Pretty neat camping gear!
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Schmutz


Best you can get mate
Peter, Oz 



From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Thu May 10 03:15:52 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:15:52 +0800
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au><6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
	<002e01c792b4$59749690$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <003c01c792ec$30b51760$f301a8c0@armstrong>

Peter
Dave may not know Australia is not a state of the USA.

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] arnie and dave!


> 10 packets of nicotine patches, a plane ticket and your here for the time 
> of
> your life, come Dave, live a little mate ;-)))
> I guess you are still smoking, if not there is absolutely no excuse.
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>
>> Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
>>         Dave
>>
>> At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
>>>bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
>>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>regards Russell
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu May 10 03:31:36 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:31:36 +1000
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070510202902.01a23b20@ncable.com.au>

Dave thats just a technocality of small proportions. Some one can 
pick it up then post it on.  tooooo easy
Russell


At 12:17 PM 10/05/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
>          Dave
>
>At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
> >bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
> >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589 
> QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >regards Russell
>
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Thu May 10 06:13:04 2007
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:13:04 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags
References: <bca.f61e067.3373cddb@aol.com>
	<003201c792b4$75652540$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <000d01c79304$f65f2010$6cf01fd3@Edd>

When My mate Martin and I went to Portland in1996 we took our OZ swags with 
us and got a few looks in the camp ground.At Mt Pleasant we even got people 
taking pics of the crazy Ozys and there camping gear.Before we departed the 
US we gave our swags to Joe and Lee Winter in MO and they have used them 
when they go dear hunting and say they are great.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith now Swags


> >
>> In a message dated 5/8/2007 8:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> plowe at exemail.com.au writes:
>>
>> Swags are the furniture of the bush, and neither man nor woman ventures
>> out
>> without one
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Pretty neat camping gear!
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tom Schmutz
>
>
> Best you can get mate
> Peter, Oz
>
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From bboyce at swat.coop  Thu May 10 12:41:59 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
Message-ID: <000801c7933b$4694d120$5a4cfea9@bboyce>

has anyone know of a place that sells generic wear sleeves ?  the rear engine seal journal is pitted pretty bad ,,, its 4 in. in diameter and has a 5/8 in. face,,, couldnt find anything at the local machine shops,,, their advice : just get another crankshaft,,, yeah, lol,,,,
i guess j b weld is an option but i'd rather use a sleeve;;
any ideas will be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas


From bboyce at swat.coop  Thu May 10 12:50:19 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:50:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
Message-ID: <000801c7933c$70f650a0$5a4cfea9@bboyce>

disregard the previous post about the wear sleeve, i found one,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Thu May 10 12:53:04 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:53:04 -0700
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
Message-ID: <20070510.125304.536.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Bill.
I just called the local Kaman Industrial Technologies, they don't keep
them in stock but can order them.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:59 -0500 "Bill Boyce" <bboyce at swat.coop>
writes:
> has anyone know of a place that sells generic wear sleeves ?  the 
> rear engine seal journal is pitted pretty bad ,,, its 4 in. in 
> diameter and has a 5/8 in. face,,, couldnt find anything at the 
> local machine shops,,, their advice : just get another crankshaft,,, 
> yeah, lol,,,,
> i guess j b weld is an option but i'd rather use a sleeve;;
> any ideas will be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 10 14:19:42 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:19:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] arnie and dave!
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070510202902.01a23b20@ncable.com.au>
References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509232158.011f0688@ncable.com.au>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070509211629.04a606d0@mail.alltel.net>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20070510202902.01a23b20@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070510161850.056cce00@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Russell. If that's an offer to do the leg work let me know and I'll put 
in a bid!
         Dave

At 05:31 AM 5/10/2007, you wrote:
>Dave thats just a technocality of small proportions. Some one can
>pick it up then post it on.  tooooo easy
>Russell
>
>
>At 12:17 PM 10/05/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Russell, It's the "Local pick up only" that scars me a bit!
> >          Dave
> >
> >At 08:22 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote:
> > >bid up big Dave, you need this to go with your Austral
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SHELL-MOTOR-SPIRIT-BOX_W0QQitemZ190109758589
> > QQihZ009QQcategoryZ833QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > >
> > >regards Russell
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >SEL mailing list
> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>Russell Gilbert
>Sunny Sunraysia
>russell at ncable.com.au
>http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From jdragoset at galvotec.com  Thu May 10 14:25:42 2007
From: jdragoset at galvotec.com (Jim Dragoset)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:25:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] wear sleeve
In-Reply-To: <20070510.125304.536.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <LJENJGOEJJENFCJNAJBGEEMNGIAA.jdragoset@galvotec.com>

Bill,
Chicago Rawhide used to make them, sold as "Speedy Sleeve".
Check your local bearing supplier.
Jim Dragoset,
NOLA

-----Original Message-----
From: rdhaskell at juno.com [mailto:rdhaskell at juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:53 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] wear sleeve


Hi Bill.
I just called the local Kaman Industrial Technologies, they don't keep
them in stock but can order them.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:59 -0500 "Bill Boyce" <bboyce at swat.coop>
writes:
> has anyone know of a place that sells generic wear sleeves ?  the 
> rear engine seal journal is pitted pretty bad ,,, its 4 in. in 
> diameter and has a 5/8 in. face,,, couldnt find anything at the 
> local machine shops,,, their advice : just get another crankshaft,,, 
> yeah, lol,,,,
> i guess j b weld is an option but i'd rather use a sleeve;;
> any ideas will be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
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From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Wed May  9 19:44:58 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 21:44:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
References: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<013401c78f6a$18858f60$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>
Message-ID: <002f01c792ad$344a98d0$c8ed123f@D8LJ7K91>

My 4 HP Atlas engine has dual flywheel keys.  Maybe I can post a picture.

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim and Diane" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress


> The dual diagonal keys have a much higher shear strength and were many 
> times
> used in situations that were bidirectional.  Probably an overkill for a
> small engine but nevertheless a first class, and quite expensive, way of
> doing the job.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim and Diane
> Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
> jd.kirkes at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>
>
> Hi Jerry.
> I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
> they cut the key ways the way they did.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> writes:
>> Hi Ron,
>>          Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire
>> your
>> ingenuity and perseverance.
>> My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>>          As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were
>> inserted
>> diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a
>> "manufacturing reason" ?
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 10 21:14:50 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:14:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone progress
In-Reply-To: <002f01c792ad$344a98d0$c8ed123f@D8LJ7K91>
References: <20070505.143322.1972.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>	<013401c78f6a$18858f60$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>
	<002f01c792ad$344a98d0$c8ed123f@D8LJ7K91>
Message-ID: <4643EDBA.50508@scrtc.com>

Glenn,
    Mentioning your Atlas, I got my Krueger Atlas home.  I think it has 
the 2 key ways on each flywheel hub also.  Here are some photos.  I've 
got some work to do on it as I'll have to have patterns made for a carb, 
ignitor, and fuel pump.  Just a bit of work to bring it back to life.

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539868

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539869&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539870&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539871&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539872&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539873&f=0

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=3009203&a=30367497&p=75539874&f=0

I love the governor on these engines as its nice to watch it spinning 
around while its running.

Tommy Turner




Glenn Karch wrote:

>My 4 HP Atlas engine has dual flywheel keys.  Maybe I can post a picture.
>
>Glenn Karch
>Hercules Historian
>Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Jim and Diane" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>
>
>  
>
>>The dual diagonal keys have a much higher shear strength and were many 
>>times
>>used in situations that were bidirectional.  Probably an overkill for a
>>small engine but nevertheless a first class, and quite expensive, way of
>>doing the job.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Jim and Diane
>>Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
>>jd.kirkes at verizon.net
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
>>To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:33 PM
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Blackstone progress
>>
>>
>>Hi Jerry.
>>I don't know much about Blackstone engines, maybe someone can tell us why
>>they cut the key ways the way they did.
>>
>>Ron Haskell
>>rdhaskell at juno.com
>>Riverside, California
>>USA
>>http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>>
>>On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:52:38 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
>>writes:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Ron,
>>>         Thanks for sharing the experience and expertise. I admire
>>>your
>>>ingenuity and perseverance.
>>>My puller would never have got those out in it's present form !
>>>         As someone else mentioned - strange that the keys were
>>>inserted
>>>diagonally - is there an "engineering reason" for this or maybe a
>>>"manufacturing reason" ?
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
>>    
>>
>
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>
>
>
>  
>



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu May 10 21:19:28 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:19:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] YouTube engine videos
Message-ID: <20070511041858.WSSJ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

There are an amazing number of engine videos appearing on YouTube these
days. A quick search turns up some interesting ones. Not wanting to be left
behind I have added three:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNtoOEHOyfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCLMTTgY1NE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lz3YWyrkzc
Enjoy :)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri May 11 14:21:02 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 23:21:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         I apologise for this totally off topic letter but it does have 
bearing on a letter I wrote to the list about a month ago - the discussion 
was "gun control" and crime after that school shooting in the USA.

         I mentioned the crime in South Africa and how we have all been 
affected and how the rest of the world never gets to hear about it.

         Well my mother was attacked, beaten up and robbed in her house 2 
nights ago. The steel security gate on one of the doors was broken out with 
a crowbar and then the glass door simply smashed with a rock. This was 
after midnight and she was asleep. The first she knew was when she was 
roughly pulled from her bed and beaten with a heavy stick and money 
demanded from her. She gave them what she had and between her and her 
little dog managed to fight them off and they fled. Thank goodness she was 
not raped as this is what these people usually do to humiliate the old 
people. She has a few bruises, a stab wound in the leg and a broken finger. 
She got off lightly. She's a tough "Old Cookie".

         My mother lives alone in her own house near the coast (about 350 
miles from here). She is 86 years old. This is the second time that this 
has happened to her in the last 10 years and the third time in her life.

         She refused to allow my brother (who lives near me) or I to go 
down and visit her saying that she is fine and it would just be a waste of 
time and money. Fortunately we have friends living near her and they have 
confirmed that she is O.K.

         Our laws prohibit the mention of race in the reporting of crime 
but I feel I can safely say "The perpetrators were not White skinned".

         Once more, I apologise for the "Off Topic" post and do not wish to 
start a new thread with this one - just thought you should know - 
especially all those of you who responded "off list" last time. I 
appreciate it.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Fri May 11 18:08:42 2007
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:08:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000401c79432$179784b0$0100000a@Bear>

Hi Jerry,
My wife's family left South Africa (Durban) about 12 years ago because of 
the increase in volante crime and her parents were worry about safety of 
their daughters.
They still call SA home and love the place and still have a lot of family 
over there that they worry about a lot.
"Oh my love for South Africa".
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. N.S.W. Australia.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:21 AM
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic


> Hi Guys,
>         I apologise for this totally off topic letter but it does have
> bearing on a letter I wrote to the list about a month ago - the discussion
> was "gun control" and crime after that school shooting in the USA.
>
>         I mentioned the crime in South Africa and how we have all been
> affected and how the rest of the world never gets to hear about it.
>
>         Well my mother was attacked, beaten up and robbed in her house 2
> nights ago. The steel security gate on one of the doors was broken out 
> with
> a crowbar and then the glass door simply smashed with a rock. This was
> after midnight and she was asleep. The first she knew was when she was
> roughly pulled from her bed and beaten with a heavy stick and money
> demanded from her. She gave them what she had and between her and her
> little dog managed to fight them off and they fled. Thank goodness she was
> not raped as this is what these people usually do to humiliate the old
> people. She has a few bruises, a stab wound in the leg and a broken 
> finger.
> She got off lightly. She's a tough "Old Cookie".
>
>         My mother lives alone in her own house near the coast (about 350
> miles from here). She is 86 years old. This is the second time that this
> has happened to her in the last 10 years and the third time in her life.
>
>         She refused to allow my brother (who lives near me) or I to go
> down and visit her saying that she is fine and it would just be a waste of
> time and money. Fortunately we have friends living near her and they have
> confirmed that she is O.K.
>
>         Our laws prohibit the mention of race in the reporting of crime
> but I feel I can safely say "The perpetrators were not White skinned".
>
>         Once more, I apologise for the "Off Topic" post and do not wish to
> start a new thread with this one - just thought you should know -
> especially all those of you who responded "off list" last time. I
> appreciate it.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
> Cell: 083 293 7191
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Fri May 11 18:28:16 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:28:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070511212441.039e8310@pop3.wcoil.com>

Does anyone know Tom Stranko? From PA I think.  A non computerized engine 
buddy of mine talked to him a while back on the phone on some Aeromotor 
parts and wrote the phone number down wrong.
Can someone get me in contact with him? Is he by chance on the list??

                               Thanks,    Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Fri May 11 20:39:45 2007
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 13:09:45 +0930
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070511212441.039e8310@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79447$2f74c880$6ec8a03a@chaos>

could this be him ?
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=thomas-users
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Shulaw" <frappi at wcoil.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts





From frappi at wcoil.com  Sat May 12 04:26:14 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 07:26:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Searching For Tom Stranko / Aeromotor Parts
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79447$2f74c880$6ec8a03a@chaos>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<6.2.1.2.1.20070511212441.039e8310@pop3.wcoil.com>
	<000a01c79447$2f74c880$6ec8a03a@chaos>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070512072511.02f0bc90@pop3.wcoil.com>

At 11:39 PM 5/11/07, you wrote:
>could this be him ?
>http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=thomas-users


Thank You Derek, I'll email contact this fellow and 
see.                       Mark



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Your one stop on line source for Maytag Multi-Motor parts.
Parts lists available on request.

Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
Saturday 9 AM to 5 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 12 06:39:55 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:39:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Looking for Stover Book Cover
Message-ID: <003f01c7949b$077d4380$240110ac@FAMILY>

Folks Skip Landis was kind enough to copy his 1904 Stover Booklet for me but he was unable to scan the front cover for me so I could see the colors and try and make a color page for my copy. Here is a copy of the cover of the book:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/Stover1904BookCover.jpg

If anyone has an original 1904 Stover Book like this I would love to get a colored scan of just the front cover so I can try and reproduce it. The rest of the books is great, just need the front cover which is in color.

Thank,

Paul


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sat May 12 20:10:41 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:10:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>

I'm terribly sorry to hear that, Jerry.

My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome, 
encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks 
ago. He took a few hits from rocks, bottles and fists, and his visiting 
sister and roommate in the apartment were terrified as Joe was trying 
to get in as he was attacked. The NYPD, when called, cheerily asked a 
few questions and basically told him "Have a nice day, and go back to 
Tennessee." I don't suppose it would be correct to mention that these 
young men on the streets of New York did not have white skins, either. 
That's not an issue for Joe, but the fact that his skin is white seemed 
to be an issue to them. He'd done nothing to provoke them, other than 
being there and being white.

John

On May 11, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:

>          Well my mother was attacked, beaten up and robbed in her 
> house 2
> nights ago.


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From bboyce at swat.coop  Sun May 13 06:35:59 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 08:35:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <F27E191C568C417EB507980F8B54772C@billPC>

it seems reports of attacks like this pop up all too often,,,,,, rick 
perry, govenor of texas, receintly stated he thought any person with a 
concealed carry license should be able to carry ANYWHERE they wanted,,,i 
couldnt believe a politician would make such politically explosive 
statement, but hes got the right idea,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Culp" <johnculp at chartertn.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally Off Topic


 My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome,
> encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks
> ago. He took a few hits from rocks, bottles and fists, and his visiting
> sister and roommate in the apartment were terrified as Joe was trying
> to get in as he was attacked. The NYPD, when called, cheerily asked a
> few questions and basically told him "Have a nice day, and go back to
> Tennessee." I don't suppose it would be correct to mention that these
> young men on the streets of New York did not have white skins, either.
> That's not an issue for Joe, but the fact that his skin is white seemed
> to be an issue to them. He'd done nothing to provoke them, other than
> being there and being white.
>
> John
>
> On May 11, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:
> 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun May 13 07:22:47 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:22:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <F27E191C568C417EB507980F8B54772C@billPC>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
	<F27E191C568C417EB507980F8B54772C@billPC>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070513101521.038b6650@pop3.wcoil.com>

I agree with ya, And I'd vote for him and a great number of the silent 
majority probably would too. Sometimes you find a politician with 
conviction of their beliefs.  All to rare but once in a blue moon. If they 
all had the courage to speak up not as the vocal minority wants but as the 
silent majority believes and then walk the talk, politicians might be 
suprised at the favorable responce.  Politicians should realize that the 
minority marches in protests the majority stays at home and goes to 
work.   MARK

Nuff said from me, SEE YA'LL at PORTLAND SWAP

At 09:35 AM 5/13/07, you wrote:
>it seems reports of attacks like this pop up all too often,,,,,, rick
>perry, govenor of texas, receintly stated he thought any person with a
>concealed carry license should be able to carry ANYWHERE they wanted,,,i
>couldnt believe a politician would make such politically explosive
>statement, but hes got the right idea,,,
>bill boyce
>lost prairie, arkansas

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

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them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun May 13 12:03:36 2007
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:03:36 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070513203715.03e1f268@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Just a quick note to say "Thank you" to all who responded to my 
first post on this subject. I received many "Off list" replies and not one 
of them was negative. I passed all your good wishes on to my mother and, to 
say the least, she was overwhelmed.
         She was very "touched" to receive so many good wishes from people 
all over the world. (I read them all out to her).
         Today was "Mothers Day" and I was not able to spend it with her 
but telephoned her many times. Quite a few of you insisted that I should go 
and visit her and, although I respect your sentiments, this was just not 
possible and she also understood this.
         She was amazed that I had so many friends all over the world and I 
thank you for this.
         I think that I did reply to all the "off list" mails I received 
but if I did miss anyone then I apologise to you, it was not intentional. 
There were a lot of mails and I tried to personally reply to each one.
         Thanks guys - the SEL is the best - you are all great guys.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Intntl.: +2716 365-5787
Cell: 083 293 7191
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  



From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Sun May 13 14:43:12 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:43:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
Message-ID: <BAY127-F32B6EDCF59412517D6D019CB3F0@phx.gbl>

John, what rational young man would be in New York?  The PD has the right 
idea.  Get back to Tennessee, Joseph!



Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun May 13 16:45:30 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:45:30 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070513184147.04a59728@mail.alltel.net>


>My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome,
>encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks
>ago.
>John

Sure sorry to hear about Joe and this "situation" John. I have NO IDEA why 
anyone would visit NY, much less live there!
         Dave
PS, See: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/28/elderly.mugging.ap/index.html and 
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2007/05/13/dennis.mi.91.year.old.beaten.wdiv 
for some of the finer moments in NYC!





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 13 17:11:24 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:11:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za><534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070513184147.04a59728@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <049701c795bc$6b8bc1e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

 Aint only NY! Its par for the course in the weatern world.
Sadly, all the good ANY 'rehab' efforts will be a total waste of time.
Now, IF the punishment was for real, only then would the number of offences 
reduce.
I remember a story told me by an old friend who fled Russia after WW2.
ANY crime was dealt with by a bullet. A wallet would stay where it lay in 
the road until the owner collected it. Anyone else touch it and they were 
guilty of theft, even if they were going to hand it in.
Sure, the other swing of the pendulum but...
If we dont get serious soon, no, the longer we leave it go, the closer we
come to total anarchy.
I see kids barely able to walk being pointed in the wrong direction re
obeying the law, by the parents! NO punishment for this. Sad.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally Off Topic


>
>>My son had a frightening, fortunately less serious in the outcome,
>>encounter with a gang of young punks in New York City about 2 weeks
>>ago.
>>John
>
> Sure sorry to hear about Joe and this "situation" John. I have NO IDEA why
> anyone would visit NY, much less live there!
>         Dave
> PS, See: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/28/elderly.mugging.ap/index.html
> and
> http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2007/05/13/dennis.mi.91.year.old.beaten.wdiv
> for some of the finer moments in NYC!
>
>
>
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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Sun May 13 17:39:18 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 20:39:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] McComick-Deering Model M - Exhaust timing
Message-ID: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

Hi All

It has been a while since on this list, but finally got back to working on
an engine.  I have a model M 1.5 hp.  It ran for several years, but has not
run for a couple of years.  Upon trying to start, I had no compression, so I
pulled the head, crank bearing cap, and pulled the piston.  Rings froze, so
I replaced. After doing this it would not start, upon checking the timing
marks per manual, the exhaust is 180 degrees off.  

My question is, did I do something I am missing, or could it have run before
like this?  I really hate the thought of pulling the fly wheels and side
cover to check the timing marks.  My second question is, can I pull the gib
key driving the cam and turn it 180 degrees and replace the gib key?

 

 



 


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun May 13 19:20:40 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:20:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Totally Off Topic
In-Reply-To: <049701c795bc$6b8bc1e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20070511231918.00a87928@mail.cyberserv.co.za><534d33f9e97f4b206e210c91dbf1b578@chartertn.net>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070513184147.04a59728@mail.alltel.net>
	<049701c795bc$6b8bc1e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>
Message-ID: <91ea51dc84a6ae6e112926cb2daf19d5@chartertn.net>

Well, I might as well post what I just sent off-List about this. I'm 
not advocating racism. It stinks, wherever it's practiced all over the 
world. And it sure is common.

My son Joe had lots of other encounters with black folks in Brooklyn. 
They were nonthreatening, most of them friendly and pleasant. Some of 
them who called him "white boy" and "cracker" were concerned about his 
welfare when he had lost his coat and was going to work on cold 
mornings in T-shirts. As for Joe, some guy with more dollars than sense 
had given him a $20 to switch seats with him on a plane. He still had 
it in a pocket when he ran into a poor couple, the crying woman 
obviously pregnant, who said they'd missed the free dinner at a 
neighborhood church. He gave them the $20. Didn't mention their color. 
Didn't care. Said he felt like he was meant to have that money to help 
them. But like I said, that gang of young thugs wanted to bust his ass 
because he was white. Go figure.

Why's he up there in New York? Trying to make a living, same as most 
folks. I think he's going to do right well at it, too. Takes a little 
while to get the pump primed for the cash flow. He's not starving, 
though. (He's been there all of two months.) He's getting flown to 
Paris next week for a two-day shoot (he's a model) that'll make him a 
pretty nice chunk of change, and a couple of Prada executives came to 
his agency Friday to interview him and his roommate for a show in 
Milan. That caused quite a stir at the agency, where they were 
expecting Miuccia Prada herself to show up. (I think she had called 
them to set it up.) Might as well have been the Queen coming. I figure 
the only way a couple of unknown new guys like these could have come to 
her attention was if she had been in the audience at the fashion show 
on April 30 to benefit the Parsons New School for Design at the Grand 
Hyatt Hotel in New York, in which both of them modeled. It was quite an 
affair with a lot of notable designers and other celebrities there. I 
figure Ms. Prada might've seen them, liked their looks and had them 
checked out. I sure hope it leads to a good deal for the boys, but just 
being approached about it is a terrific honor for them! Anyway, he's 
rational. He's got an opportunity to make good money, travel a lot, 
meet interesting people, and make contacts with folks who can help him 
in his art career later on. Pretty good deal when you're 19. :-)

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From kimmell at verizon.net  Sun May 13 20:19:37 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:19:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
Message-ID: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi all,
I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really 
been 8 YEARS???

Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I 
sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my 
drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After 
owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or 
deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up 
too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!

I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had 
a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early 
August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it 
didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm 
now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been 
for the last 3 years.

It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags, 
Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD 
engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have 
found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC 
model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I 
know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this 
Wednesday in Avon, IN.

Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as 
well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the 
M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound 
throttler ;-)

Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from 
anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see 
some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun May 13 20:33:31 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:33:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <4647D88B.6010606@scrtc.com>

Tony,
    Good to have you back.  See ya at Portland!

Tommy Turner



Tony & Jackie wrote:

>Hi all,
>I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really 
>been 8 YEARS???
>
>Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I 
>sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my 
>drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After 
>owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or 
>deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up 
>too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
>I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had 
>a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early 
>August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it 
>didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm 
>now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been 
>for the last 3 years.
>
>It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags, 
>Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD 
>engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have 
>found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC 
>model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I 
>know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this 
>Wednesday in Avon, IN.
>
>Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as 
>well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the 
>M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound 
>throttler ;-)
>
>Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from 
>anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see 
>some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.
>
>--
>Tony Kimmell
>Bloomington, IL
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
>  
>



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 13 22:06:52 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:06:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <050001c795e8$d202f930$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Hey Tony, good to see you back. Ya gunna have to update the pics we have of 
you!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!


> Hi all,
> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>
> Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I
> sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my
> drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After
> owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or
> deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up
> too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
> I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had
> a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early
> August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it
> didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm
> now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been
> for the last 3 years.
>
> It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags,
> Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD
> engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have
> found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC
> model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I
> know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this
> Wednesday in Avon, IN.
>
> Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as
> well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the
> M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound
> throttler ;-)
>
> Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from
> anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see
> some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun May 13 23:04:53 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:04:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>

On 14/05/07, Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>

Doesn't time fly when you are enjoying yourself? :-))

Good to hear from you again!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon May 14 03:50:46 2007
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 06:50:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <002101c79615$ba766770$336d4b47@mikecomp>

Always glad to welcome back someone into the hobby.  Just stay away from the 
tractors!!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!


> Hi all,
> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>
> Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I
> sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my
> drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After
> owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or
> deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up
> too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
> I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had
> a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early
> August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it
> didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm
> now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been
> for the last 3 years.
>
> It's good to be back in the engine hobby.  I had sold all my Maytags,
> Briggs and other engines that I had, and now I guess the only OLD
> engine I have is my antique homelite generator.  Although, I have
> found a decent engine to get me back in the hobby: a 3hp IHC
> model-M.  It's a low-tension overstrike engine and other than that I
> know nothing about it at this point.  I am going to pick it up this
> Wednesday in Avon, IN.
>
> Avon, IN?  Hell, that's only about 2 hours from PORTLAND!  Might as
> well make a day of it and head to Portland after I pick up the
> M.  Maybe I can find a little hit-n-miss to go along with my newfound
> throttler ;-)
>
> Anyways, it's good to be back and I look forward to hearing from
> anyone who's been here long enough to remember me.  Maybe I'll see
> some of ya at Portland on Wednesday.
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 14 05:19:29 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:19:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001401c79622$22816bb0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Welcome back Tony to the special SEL family, it is good to know that we have 
gotten back a valuable member of our group.

Have A Great Day!!

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!


> On 14/05/07, Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
>> been 8 YEARS???
>>
>
> Doesn't time fly when you are enjoying yourself? :-))
>
> Good to hear from you again!
> 




From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon May 14 06:23:35 2007
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>


>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>
>2hp sundile horazontle
>

>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 
>

Oh DEER!


Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 14 06:30:40 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:30:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net><6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <002301c7962c$111bf200$0601a8c0@altech>

Pity he can't spell, some of these eBay adverts sure bring out the schooling 
in some. The selling program has a spell check
Peter, Oz






>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon May 14 08:47:44 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:47:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705141143360.64661@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Tony,  Welcome back!!

Dave has often said that when teen-age guys discover "tits and tires" we
lose them for about a decade.  Glad to hear that you "survived."

See ya at Portland!!

Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Sun, 13 May 2007, Tony & Jackie wrote:

> I'm back on SEL after an 8 year break... good lord, has it really
> been 8 YEARS???
>
> Some of you guys will remember me as "Maytag92" from those days.  I
> sort of lost interest in the old engine hobby after getting my
> drivers license in 1999 and the old car hobby took over.  After
> owning about 70-80 cars and trucks in different states of repair (or
> deterioration, however you wanna look at it!) that hobby just took up
> too much space.  Time to fall back on my REAL passion: old junk!
>
> I've grown a little in the last 8 years... I got married in 2003, had
> a daughter in 2005 and will have a son coming soon in early
> August!  Got out of high-school and tried the college thing... it
> didn't last.  After having a few different jobs over the years I'm
> now driving a semi for a local LTL freight company where I've been
> for the last 3 years.



From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Mon May 14 09:02:34 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:02:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Timing
Message-ID: <000201c79641$4972cf10$6401a8c0@PaulNew>

On a McCormick Deering 'M', could I have disturbed the timing, by only
removing the head and piston.  According to the way I read the manual, I am
now 180 degrees off.  Any help is appreciated

 

TIA

Paul Waugh

 

 

 




From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon May 14 10:13:23 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:13:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Timing
In-Reply-To: <000201c79641$4972cf10$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <000201c79641$4972cf10$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <2115.165.206.180.53.1179162803.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

ONLY if you removed the cam or otherwise dis-engaged it from the crank gear.
You can impact ignition timing also by moving the trip, etc. but to impact
the exhaust timing, no, you'd have to unmesh the gears - or attempt to
start it backwards.

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> On a McCormick Deering 'M', could I have disturbed the timing, by only
> removing the head and piston.  According to the way I read the manual, I
> am
> now 180 degrees off.  Any help is appreciated
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> Paul Waugh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon May 14 14:42:56 2007
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:42:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
Message-ID: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>

Hi all ;

    My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push the clutch disk are all missing ,  If any one has any pictures or parts please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's , 
    I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this time I was a little smarter  , I also bought some yard decorations for My Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have learned that long ago .
   
Rex Hinz


From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon May 14 15:52:39 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:52:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
In-Reply-To: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>
References: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070514174932.05435008@mail.alltel.net>

At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>Hi all ;
>     My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double 
> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we 
> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push 
> the clutch disk are all missing ,  If any one has any pictures or parts 
> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>     I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction 
> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this 
> time I was a little smarter  , I also bought some yard decorations for My 
> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have 
> learned that long ago .
>Rex Hinz

Hi Rex,
          I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch 
set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also 
have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it 
and snail it to you if you think that would help.
         Dave



From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon May 14 15:43:40 2007
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:43:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
References: <001501c79670$d6814c90$6500a8c0@home>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070514174932.05435008@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000501c79679$52da35b0$6500a8c0@home>

   Thanks Dave;

 I was on your engine site and the 5 HP is different with the control lever 
on the engine side of the clutch and only one flywheel ,the one we have 
looks like it will be on the outside of the clutch , Oh by the way you have 
a great home page I really enjoyed looking ,  thanks for your quick reply 
Dave.

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch


> At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi all ;
>>     My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double
>> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we
>> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push
>> the clutch disk are all missing ,  If any one has any pictures or parts
>> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>>     I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction
>> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this
>> time I was a little smarter  , I also bought some yard decorations for My
>> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have
>> learned that long ago .
>>Rex Hinz
>
> Hi Rex,
>          I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch
> set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also
> have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it
> and snail it to you if you think that would help.
>         Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From plb at iinet.net.au  Mon May 14 16:01:39 2007
From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:01:39 +0800
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
In-Reply-To: <002301c7962c$111bf200$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net><6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>	<7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>
	<002301c7962c$111bf200$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <005501c7967b$d50225a0$7f0670e0$@net.au>

Well he is an Eastern Stater and from Yarrawonga at that. :D
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 9:31 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay

Pity he can't spell, some of these eBay adverts sure bring out the schooling

in some. The selling program has a spell check
Peter, Oz






>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ2
30129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 

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From skipl130 at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 16:25:49 2007
From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070514174932.05435008@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <374278.32442.qm@web35314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi rex, i have a couple of these & there is no sign of any way to release the clutch. it has a heavy spring on the shaft outside the outer clutch plate , like an over ride clutch if the saw binds. i think these are correct. i do have a few other parts when you figure out what's missing.  skip

Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:  At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>Hi all ;
> My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double 
> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we 
> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push 
> the clutch disk are all missing , If any one has any pictures or parts 
> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
> I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction 
> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this 
> time I was a little smarter , I also bought some yard decorations for My 
> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have 
> learned that long ago .
>Rex Hinz

Hi Rex,
I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch 
set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also 
have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it 
and snail it to you if you think that would help.
Dave

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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 14 19:21:15 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:21:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
Message-ID: <380-22007521522115780@M2W025.mail2web.com>

Cheeky Westerner ;-))))



Well he is an Eastern Stater and from Yarrawonga at that. :D
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 9:31 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay

Pity he can't spell, some of these eBay adverts sure bring out the schooling

in some. The selling program has a spell check
Peter, Oz






>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ2
30129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 

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From bboyce at swat.coop  Mon May 14 20:10:37 2007
From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:10:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
Message-ID: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>

does anyone know of a way to find highway overpass, or underpass clearances for a certain route?  i googled and found 
"low clearances" for each state, but the benchmark used is the state statutory height,, usually 13.5 or 14 feet,,,i;m looking for routes that give more clearance,,, i;m looking at hauling a ag spray rig from the midwest down into southern arkansas,, the 60 foot booms folded will still stand 14 or 15 feet  off the ground,when the rig is loaded on the trailer,,,,,
any ideas will be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.


From jtstraka at adelphia.net  Mon May 14 20:43:06 2007
From: jtstraka at adelphia.net (jtstraka at adelphia.net)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:43:06 -0700
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
Message-ID: <19339244.1179200586254.JavaMail.root@web21>

---- Go to a truck stop .They have the books on all bridge clearances . Ted


From kimmell at verizon.net  Mon May 14 20:55:45 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:55:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] I'm back.... and PORTLAND!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705141143360.64661@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0705141143360.64661@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0JI200F91DLVRCS6@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>

Hey Arnie,
I can't dispute that... Trucks, parties and girls (in that order) 
were my whole life there for a solid 3-4 years.  I remember Leroy 
Clark telling me the same thing at Portland back in '98.  "You'll get 
out of the hobby, but it'll always be in your blood."

C-ya...
Tony


At 10:47 AM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>Hey Tony,  Welcome back!!
>
>Dave has often said that when teen-age guys discover "tits and tires" we
>lose them for about a decade.  Glad to hear that you "survived."
>
>See ya at Portland!!
>
>Arnie




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon May 14 17:06:43 2007
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:06:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
References: <374278.32442.qm@web35314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79684$ec944d20$6500a8c0@home>

I think your right Skip , If it binds the spring tension would be adjusted 
to let it slip till the operator lifted the saw ,  I guess all that's 
missing is the spring , Thanks for your help

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Landis" <skipl130 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch


> hi rex, i have a couple of these & there is no sign of any way to release 
> the clutch. it has a heavy spring on the shaft outside the outer clutch 
> plate , like an over ride clutch if the saw binds. i think these are 
> correct. i do have a few other parts when you figure out what's missing. 
> skip
>
> Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:  At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you 
> wrote:
>>Hi all ;
>> My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double
>> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we
>> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push
>> the clutch disk are all missing , If any one has any pictures or parts
>> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>> I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction
>> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this
>> time I was a little smarter , I also bought some yard decorations for My
>> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have
>> learned that long ago .
>>Rex Hinz
>
> Hi Rex,
> I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch
> set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also
> have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it
> and snail it to you if you think that would help.
> Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
> Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> _______________________________________________
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> 



From brock at netspeed.com.au  Tue May 15 03:07:56 2007
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:07:56 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
Message-ID: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>

G,day Russell 

its amazing what 15 Beers Does for your spelling


----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: The SEL email discussion list
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000

> >I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the
> tittle reads : >
> >2hp sundile horazontle
> >
> 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-
> engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ
> 1QQcmdZViewItem  >
> 
> Oh DEER!
> 
> 
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From curt at imc-group.com  Tue May 15 04:34:49 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:34:49 -0400
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
In-Reply-To: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>
References: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>
Message-ID: <46499AD9.1060904@imc-group.com>

Brock,
There's a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black!  :-)
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

brock at netspeed.com.au wrote:
> G,day Russell 
>
> its amazing what 15 Beers Does for your spelling
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000
>
>   
>>> I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the
>>>       
>> tittle reads : >
>>     
>>> 2hp sundile horazontle
>>>
>>>       



From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May 15 07:34:07 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:34:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
In-Reply-To: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
References: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070515093300.04b44608@mail.alltel.net>

I would think that the state (ie individual states) DOT would be able to 
give you that information over the phone.
         Dave

At 10:10 PM 5/14/2007, you wrote:
>does anyone know of a way to find highway overpass, or underpass 
>clearances for a certain route?  i googled and found
>"low clearances" for each state, but the benchmark used is the state 
>statutory height,, usually 13.5 or 14 feet,,,i;m looking for routes that 
>give more clearance,,, i;m looking at hauling a ag spray rig from the 
>midwest down into southern arkansas,, the 60 foot booms folded will still 
>stand 14 or 15 feet  off the ground,when the rig is loaded on the trailer,,,,,
>any ideas will be appreciated,,,
>bill boyce
>lost prairie, arkansas
>Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.



From bill at antique-engines.com  Tue May 15 06:58:18 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
References: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
Message-ID: <1277.165.206.180.53.1179237498.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
(25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
Anything to avoid on the way there or back?

Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?

Any interesting engine stuff there?

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


From skipl130 at yahoo.com  Tue May 15 07:07:44 2007
From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79684$ec944d20$6500a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <240642.44166.qm@web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

your'e welcome.

Rex Hinz <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:  I think your right Skip , If it binds the spring tension would be adjusted 
to let it slip till the operator lifted the saw , I guess all that's 
missing is the spring , Thanks for your help

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Landis" 
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 hp ottawa drag saw clutch


> hi rex, i have a couple of these & there is no sign of any way to release 
> the clutch. it has a heavy spring on the shaft outside the outer clutch 
> plate , like an over ride clutch if the saw binds. i think these are 
> correct. i do have a few other parts when you figure out what's missing. 
> skip
>
> Dave Rotigel wrote: At 04:42 PM 5/14/2007, you 
> wrote:
>>Hi all ;
>> My brother needs some help with his Ottawa Drag Saw ,its a 2HP double
>> flywheel it is missing the outer clutch parts but we don't know what we
>> need , the inner disk is there and the small gear but the parts to push
>> the clutch disk are all missing , If any one has any pictures or parts
>> please let me know , I have not found much info on the Ottawa's ,
>> I also brought home another engine from the Baraboo Swap Meet Auction
>> , It is also an Ottawa 2 Hp but has a pulley instead of the clutch , this
>> time I was a little smarter , I also bought some yard decorations for My
>> Lady and the thunder lightening was minimal :-)) I guess I should have
>> learned that long ago .
>>Rex Hinz
>
> Hi Rex,
> I have a 5 HP Ottawa drag saw here. Don't know if the clutch
> set-up is the same, or not, but I can take pictures if you wish. I also
> have the manual for the 5 HP which shows the clutch parts. I could copy it
> and snail it to you if you think that would help.
> Dave
>
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From andyglines at hotmail.com  Tue May 15 11:02:46 2007
From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:02:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1179244802.20136.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <BAY141-F334A4080DBE2806766BF21C73D0@phx.gbl>


>Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:34:07 -0500
>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070515093300.04b44608 at mail.alltel.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>I would think that the state (ie individual states) DOT would be able to
>give you that information over the phone.
>          Dave
I agree that they gov't SHOULD have accurate information to give you.  I 
also think that if you rely on the DOT for anything but writing tickets that 
you will be missing parts from your sparyer when you get home.  My first 
suggestion is to make changes necessary to get the height below 13'6" which 
is the MIN clearance in most places.  I also suggest that you check into 
some resources used by the trucking industry.  Their may be some good 
websites to help you plan your route.  I think that there are maps published 
specifically for truckers with clearance and weight restriction info.  You 
can check the nearest truckstop for these maps.

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From oldengines at bigpond.com  Tue May 15 12:41:24 2007
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:41:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
References: <0JI000JCKH9NQBU9@vms048.mailsrvcs.net><6f6025160705132304q39b46afbveaeb60327ed419f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20070514232110.01a26090@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001e01c79729$05d70760$0300000a@ronliz>

Well he's from the southern state Victoria.It's all starting to remind me of 
a older movie from the 70's with Burt Reynolds  ????
Ron  & Liz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay


>
>>I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the tittle reads :
>>
>>2hp sundile horazontle
>>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2hp-sundile-horazontle-stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ230129794089QQihZ013QQcategoryZ146575QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>
> Oh DEER!
>
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
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From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue May 15 15:55:01 2007
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 06:55:01 +0800
Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay.....now OT
References: <4649867c.31e.7b9b.1755477956@netspeed.com.au>
	<46499AD9.1060904@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <005501c79744$17db8060$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

''The Pot Calling the Kettle Black''................give me a break, there 
could be no more guilty party to the crime of murdering the English language 
than the descendants of the Pilgrim Fathers !
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay


> Brock,
> There's a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black!  :-)
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> brock at netspeed.com.au wrote:
>> G,day Russell
>>
>> its amazing what 15 Beers Does for your spelling
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Russell Gilbert <russell at ncable.com.au>
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Subject: [SEL] rare Australian engine on ebay
>> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:23:35 +1000
>>
>>
>>>> I have come across this Australian engine on ebay?? the
>>>>
>>> tittle reads : >
>>>
>>>> 2hp sundile horazontle
>>>>
>>>>
>
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From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Mon May 14 02:15:01 2007
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:15:01 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>

Test

7.14pm   Mon


From FRM8198 at aol.com  Tue May 15 20:09:47 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:09:47 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <c94.108808ed.337bcffb@aol.com>

Arrived at 8:07 Pacific Daylight time  

Francis Maciel
Santa Maria,  Ca




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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue May 15 20:09:12 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:12 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue May 15 20:10:47 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:10:47 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20070515.201047.1932.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

It made it to the left coast at 8:09 PM Tuesday.  Things are slow???
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Mon, 14 May 2007 19:15:01 +1000 "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
writes:
> Test
> 
> 7.14pm   Mon


From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Tue May 15 21:25:16 2007
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:25:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
References: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <001901c79772$3a24e1b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

You're working OK. Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: [SEL] Test


> Test
> 
> 7.14pm   Mon
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From rwenig at telus.net  Tue May 15 20:14:16 2007
From: rwenig at telus.net (Rupert Wenig)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:14:16 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
References: <002f01c795c0$4eac6990$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <464A7708.6090007@telus.net>

	Who said anything about a test?

9:13 PM MDT

Kerry wrote:
> Test
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> 7.14pm   Mon
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue May 15 23:24:38 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:24:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <8742A378B30647AE9CB35DB1B3D6A8BF@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <20070516062357.POXR14704.oaamta06ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Arrived here 1.08pm Wednesday. A day and a half to travel 140km, I thought
things were slow in Lithgow ;)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Test

7.14pm   Mon




From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Wed May 16 05:03:25 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:03:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <1277.165.206.180.53.1179237498.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>

Howdy
Having pulled RV for the last 5 years, this is my PERSONAL opinion.  I-80
across IA,IL,IN and OH not a bad ride. One toll booth in IL (they have
really opened up the bottom of Chicago) and OH is all toll. OH runs about
$20 for 4 axles. Now PA I-80 is very mountainous and seems to have a lot of
construction. I-76 is toll road, but is the way I would go if it was not out
of the way.
My 2 cents
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
bill at antique-engines.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:58 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA

OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
(25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
Anything to avoid on the way there or back?

Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?

Any interesting engine stuff there?

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com
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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Wed May 16 05:08:12 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:08:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances
In-Reply-To: <3BB09BA91B874FBE8D644B60E6BD21BB@billPC>
Message-ID: <002401c797b2$e0655a60$6401a8c0@PaulNew>

At 15 ft you are liable to catch a wire if working around a low bridge ..
truck stops do have books on bridge clearance, even some of the better
trucker atlas have them in also
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of bill boyce
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:11 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] way OT again,,,,overpass clearances

does anyone know of a way to find highway overpass, or underpass clearances
for a certain route?  i googled and found 
"low clearances" for each state, but the benchmark used is the state
statutory height,, usually 13.5 or 14 feet,,,i;m looking for routes that
give more clearance,,, i;m looking at hauling a ag spray rig from the
midwest down into southern arkansas,, the 60 foot booms folded will still
stand 14 or 15 feet  off the ground,when the rig is loaded on the
trailer,,,,,
any ideas will be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed May 16 05:30:44 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:30:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <1343.165.206.180.53.1179318644.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Thanks.....

I think it was I seventy-something a counsin suggested.

I'd like to avoid mountains and steep grades..... no trailer brakes.
The brakes on the truck are GREAT, 3/4 ton heavy axles, but still.
I like flat, I like smooth, I like no tolls and a free ride. Iowa has no
tolls, but has excellent roads and highways. Wonder why the others can't
do the same? They sell more gas and have more registered vehicles to
collect taxes on.....

Anyway, I hope to take the fastest, smoothest and most level route.

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


> Howdy
> Having pulled RV for the last 5 years, this is my PERSONAL opinion.  I-80
> across IA,IL,IN and OH not a bad ride. One toll booth in IL (they have
> really opened up the bottom of Chicago) and OH is all toll. OH runs about
> $20 for 4 axles. Now PA I-80 is very mountainous and seems to have a lot
> of
> construction. I-76 is toll road, but is the way I would go if it was not
> out
> of the way.
> My 2 cents
> Paul Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> bill at antique-engines.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:58 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
>
> OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
> (25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
> Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
> Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
> Anything to avoid on the way there or back?
>
> Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?
>
> Any interesting engine stuff there?
>
> Bill
> Runnells, Iowa
> Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
> http://antique-engines.com
> 1970 Javelin
> 1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
> http://theamcpages.com
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From nick at holden1.net  Wed May 16 11:21:32 2007
From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <464B4BAC.000001.01332@YOUR-447023AE6B>

Hi Ron
 
This may be just what you are looking for
 
 
http://cgi.ebay
com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0QQite
Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
 
 
 
 
Nick
Banbury (UK)
http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: rdhaskell at juno.com
Date: 05/16/07 04:18:11
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
 
Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed May 16 12:06:52 2007
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:06:52 +0100
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<464B4BAC.000001.01332@YOUR-447023AE6B>
Message-ID: <000501c797ed$5e794e40$e5c30b52@no1>

Hi Nick, should that be
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33577QQihZ015QQitemZ250079474534QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Holden" <nick at holden1.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator


> Hi Ron
>
> This may be just what you are looking for
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay
> com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0QQite
> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
>
> Nick
> Banbury (UK)
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: rdhaskell at juno.com
> Date: 05/16/07 04:18:11
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
>
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:27:44 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:27:44 +0100
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705161227m794ed48o79398dcc690ac35f@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, rdhaskell at juno.com <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell

Regulator listed is P/No  5879, along with resistor #1854576.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:52:46 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:52:46 +0100
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160705161227m794ed48o79398dcc690ac35f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<6f6025160705161227m794ed48o79398dcc690ac35f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705161252r608b65a5mc2d06ff40b6bbd66@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16/05/07, rdhaskell at juno.com <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> > Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ron Haskell
>
> Regulator listed is P/No  5879, along with resistor #1854576.
>

It is also a truck generator, comes up in the Autocar truck listings
for 1938, shows as a 3-brush unit,  brush set #1857963.
















                                                     Peter


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed May 16 12:53:10 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:53:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070516.125311.1944.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 Thanks Nick, but that link doesn't work for me?

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) "Nick Holden"
<nick at holden1.net> writes:
> Hi Ron
>  
> This may be just what you are looking for
>  
>  
> http://cgi.ebay
>
com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0Q
Qite
> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem


From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Wed May 16 14:22:38 2007
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:22:38 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Kohler Questions
Message-ID: <012d01c79800$556e1c50$0200a8c0@fbi>

Hi Folks

Picked up a Kohler light plant on eBay recently and it runs like a Swiss clock.  Only problem is that oil is not getting up to the rockers / valves.  I've stripped the engine casing open and found that the oil pump is in good condition.  The oil rises off the oil pump in a copper pipe then to the rear of the camshaft housing.  From there another copper pipe takes the oil to the splash pan for the main bearings, the front timing gears and up to the rockers.  Where this pipe comes out of the camshaft housing at the rear of the engine, it is loose and lets oil seep out.  Is this a push-fit into the casting?  Or am I missing a few parts?
Any help would be appreciated!
I can take pics if it would help.

Thanks,
Jim
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May 16 14:46:41 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:46:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070516.125311.1944.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c79803$b07b8f80$0601a8c0@altech>

If the eBay links do not work when wrapped on the page, just copy and paste 
the item number from the link into the eBay search box 250113526382

Peter, Oz






> Thanks Nick, but that link doesn't work for me?
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) "Nick Holden"
> <nick at holden1.net> writes:
>> Hi Ron
>>
>> This may be just what you are looking for
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay
>>
> com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0Q
> Qite
>> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 15:13:59 2007
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 17:13:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>

Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a Kohler
engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.  I found a
wiring diagram for a newer one with a similar setup; it's negative
ground.  I feel this one should be but the ground terminal is large
(fitting the pos battery terminal) & the solenoid cable is too small for
the positive post on the battery.  No battery in it when I got it.  I've
got it running using the positive ground but haven't put a meter on it
to see if it's charging.  

I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward
which I doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a
generator tho I've forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's a
Delco.

Thanks!

Lew Best near Waco, TX

-----Original Message-----
 Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 

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From nick at holden1.net  Wed May 16 13:18:05 2007
From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:18:05 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
References: <20070516.125311.1944.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <464B66FD.000001.02764@YOUR-447023AE6B>

Ron it looks like all the link has not come up 
So its item number 250113526382
Nick 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: rdhaskell at juno.com
Date: 05/16/07 21:05:28
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator
 
  Thanks Nick, but that link doesn't work for me?
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 
On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:21:32 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) "Nick Holden"
<nick at holden1.net> writes:
> Hi Ron
>
> This may be just what you are looking for
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay
>
com/ebaymotors/6-Volt-Positive-Ground-Regulator-New-Delco-Replacement_W0Q
Qite
> Z250113526382QQcmdZViewItem
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From b2 at chooka.net  Wed May 16 16:45:19 2007
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:45:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
Message-ID: <001901c79814$4588f580$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>

Others will surely jump in if I don't have this quite right, but I believe
the starter-generator you describe is kind of self-polarizing by just using
it to start the engine.  The polarity is a question of what regulator you
have, not of the starter-generator itself.  The regulator is normally
stamped for voltage and ground polarity, usually on the base; thus I'd
expect you to find a 12P or 12V P (or N) stamped or sometimes printed.
Printing is a sign of an aftermarket regulator; Delco used a good stamp so
it couldn't wear off.  Thus be careful when cleaning it looking for the
mark, in case yours is printed. If a regulator is run at the wrong polarity
it will work OK for a while, maybe quite a while.  But the points do burn up
quicker if run with reverse polarity. 

You can also tell the polarity of a regulator by looking at the points, but
I don't remember how.  Maybe someone can explain that to us.

Polarity will not affect the direction of rotation, for either starting or
for generating.

B?
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Lew Best
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:14 PM
To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)

Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a Kohler
engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.  I found a wiring
diagram for a newer one with a similar setup; it's negative ground.  I feel
this one should be but the ground terminal is large (fitting the pos battery
terminal) & the solenoid cable is too small for the positive post on the
battery.  No battery in it when I got it.  I've got it running using the
positive ground but haven't put a meter on it to see if it's charging.  

I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward which I
doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a generator tho I've
forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's a Delco.

Thanks!

Lew Best near Waco, TX

-----Original Message-----
 Hi all.
Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 

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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed May 16 16:56:35 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:56:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070516.165635.1944.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Thanks Nick.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed May 16 16:57:18 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:57:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator
Message-ID: <20070516.165719.1944.5.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Thanks Peter.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From asouth42 at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 20:12:59 2007
From: asouth42 at earthlink.net (ArthurDeana Southwell)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 23:12:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
References: <002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
Message-ID: <004a01c79831$46fcf1b0$6601a8c0@ARTHUR>

Because it's a starter-generator, it will polarize itself when you "crank" 
it.

Delco systems ... strike a quick arc between Bat. terminal and Arm.(Gen) 
terminal.

That, in effect, is what you are doing when you apply battery power to the 
starter-generator to "crank" the engine "over".

If battery ignition, check the terminal marking + or - of the wire from the 
coil to the points. That sign is ground.

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lew Best" <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)


> Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a Kohler
> engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.
Snipped

> I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward
> which I doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a
> generator tho I've forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's a
> Delco.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 20:24:59 2007
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:24:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <004a01c79831$46fcf1b0$6601a8c0@ARTHUR>
Message-ID: <007901c79832$f4404d30$e869c240@OFFICELEW>

Thanks guys!  

Guess polarity is no big deal; was just concerned it might not be
charging (haven't messed with it in a few days; needed a tire & TSC was
out; got 2 on EBay tho that'll be shipped tomorrow so I'll get back to
it soon (too many projects!).

Lew


-----Original Message-----
 Because it's a starter-generator, it will polarize itself when you
"crank" 
it.

Delco systems ... strike a quick arc between Bat. terminal and Arm.(Gen)

terminal.

That, in effect, is what you are doing when you apply battery power to
the 
starter-generator to "crank" the engine "over".

If battery ignition, check the terminal marking + or - of the wire from
the 
coil to the points. That sign is ground.

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lew Best" <bee_keeper at earthlink.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)


> Since we're in the subject, I just got a Cushman golf cart with a
Kohler
> engine that uses the generator (12v) as a starter also.
Snipped

> I'd prefer to use it with negative ground (unless it spins backward
> which I doubt it will); been so many years since I messed with a
> generator tho I've forgotten how to re-polarize one.  Pretty sure it's
a
> Delco.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Hi all.
> Where could I find a chart to tell what voltage regulator goes with a
> Delco-Remy 1100501 6V generator?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
>
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed May 16 23:28:53 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:28:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Kohler Questions
In-Reply-To: <012d01c79800$556e1c50$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012d01c79800$556e1c50$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705162328g60e53b8g4ee7b40611580de1@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, Jim French <fbi at insulate.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> Picked up a Kohler light plant on eBay recently and it runs like a Swiss clock.  Only problem is that oil is not getting up to the rockers / valves.  I've stripped the engine casing open and found that the oil pump is in good condition.  The oil rises off the oil pump in a copper pipe then to the rear of the camshaft housing.  From there another copper pipe takes the oil to the splash pan for the main bearings, the front timing gears and up to the rockers.  Where this pipe comes out of the camshaft housing at the rear of the engine, it is loose and lets oil seep out.  Is this a push-fit into the casting?  Or am I missing a few parts?
> Any help would be appreciated!
> I can take pics if it would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
> --
> Jim French

Which engine?

There is a large section on our website for the Kohler equipment,
schematics included.

We haven't had time to scan the engine stuff yet, but we do have
manuals for most of  them .

Peter


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From briwatt at optusnet.com.au  Thu May 17 00:37:43 2007
From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:37:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 2 Engines For Sale
Message-ID: <000c01c79856$424ab470$e1d9eedc@fred>

We Are refining our collection and have 2 Austral Sideshaft Eng. for sale.  photos can be seen on webshots.
 1- 5Hp. portable, mag.start.
 1-8 HP. lamp Start Portable.
both in very good condition.
looking for $ 7000. each.
Brian and David Watts
Melbourne 
Australia
(03) 97266147
http://community.webshots.com/user/briwat
briwatt at optusnet.com.au



From bill at antique-engines.com  Thu May 17 04:58:23 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 04:58:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> Howdy
> Having pulled RV for the last 5 years, this is my PERSONAL opinion.  I-80
> across IA,IL,IN and OH not a bad ride. One toll booth in IL (they have
> really opened up the bottom of Chicago) and OH is all toll. OH runs about
> $20 for 4 axles. Now PA I-80 is very mountainous and seems to have a lot
> of
> construction. I-76 is toll road, but is the way I would go if it was not
> out
> of the way.
> My 2 cents
> Paul Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> bill at antique-engines.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:58 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
>
> OK, all you easterners - I will be making a trip over the long weekend
> (25-27) to pickup a car in Reading, PA.
> Coming from Des Moines Iowa area.
> Was told to avoid I80, cut souther instead.
> Anything to avoid on the way there or back?
>
> Will I make it through with my pickup and flatbed?
>
> Any interesting engine stuff there?
>
> Bill
> Runnells, Iowa
> Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
> http://antique-engines.com
> 1970 Javelin
> 1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
> http://theamcpages.com
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Thu May 17 06:56:07 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:56:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station
In-Reply-To: <003601c6f088$bbb6dda0$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEGPFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Rick:

The gensets are now off the island and being set-up in their new homes.  I will continue updating the web page until all threee are in place and making smoke.  Feel free to use anything on the page for the article in ISSES.  

If you want to use any of the photos and the quality of them on the page isn't as good as you need (I've dumbed them down for slow hookups), contact me with the photo names (gotten by right clicking on the photo and selecting "Properties") and I'll send the best quality images I have.

All I ask is that I get to proof read it before publication and get a comp. copy of the print media when the issue with the article is released.

Here's the "F-M' Power Station" page.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/F-M%20Power%20Station/F-M%20Power%20Station.html

Take care - Elden DuRand
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

P.S.:  Note that my email address has changed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Rick
> Rowlands
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 01:36 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
> Power Station
> 
> 
> Elden,
> 
> We would like to do an article for the 
> International Stationary Steam Engine 
> Society's Bulletin about the FM rescue project so 
> take good notes and 
> pictures.
> 
> No ISSES isn't just about stationary steam, we're 
> also into big stationary 
> IC engines too!
> 
> Rick Rowlands
> US ISSES Secretary




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 17 06:16:14 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:16:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEGPFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEGPFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <464C559E.9080602@scrtc.com>

Great work you did Elden of getting the word out about these hunks of 
iron.  I'll get to see a couple of them, at East TN and Coolspring, in 
the future.  Thanks for the photos!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, Ky


>Rick:
>
>The gensets are now off the island and being set-up in their new homes.  I will continue updating the web page until all threee are in place and making smoke.  Feel free to use anything on the page for the article in ISSES.  
>
>If you want to use any of the photos and the quality of them on the page isn't as good as you need (I've dumbed them down for slow hookups), contact me with the photo names (gotten by right clicking on the photo and selecting "Properties") and I'll send the best quality images I have.
>
>All I ask is that I get to proof read it before publication and get a comp. copy of the print media when the issue with the article is released.
>
>Here's the "F-M' Power Station" page.
>
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/F-M%20Power%20Station/F-M%20Power%20Station.html
>
>Take care - Elden DuRand
>edurand at mchsi.com
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 
>
>P.S.:  Note that my email address has changed.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>> Behalf Of Rick
>>Rowlands
>>Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 01:36 PM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
>>Power Station
>>
>>
>>Elden,
>>
>>We would like to do an article for the 
>>International Stationary Steam Engine 
>>Society's Bulletin about the FM rescue project so 
>>take good notes and 
>>pictures.
>>
>>No ISSES isn't just about stationary steam, we're 
>>also into big stationary 
>>IC engines too!
>>
>>Rick Rowlands
>>US ISSES Secretary
>>    
>>
>
>
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>  
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From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May 17 06:29:00 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:29:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] voltage regulator (kinda related)
In-Reply-To: <001901c79814$4588f580$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>
References: <20070515.200912.1932.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>	<002701c79807$81c5b7c0$e869c240@OFFICELEW>
	<001901c79814$4588f580$640aa8c0@apluscomputer.local>
Message-ID: <464C589C.5080309@imc-group.com>

To polarize the field on a generator, you simply take the field wire 
loose at the connector stud, and with the battery on you strike the 
loose wire several times against the connector stud, creating a 
sparking. Those EMF spikes do an excellent job of adding permanent 
polarity to the laminations.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Bill Brueck wrote:
> Others will surely jump in if I don't have this quite right, but I believe
> the starter-generator you describe is kind of self-polarizing by just using
> it to start the engine.  The polarity is a question of what regulator you
> have, not of the starter-generator itself.  The regulator is normally
> stamped for voltage and ground polarity, usually on the base; thus I'd
> expect you to find a 12P or 12V P (or N) stamped or sometimes printed.
> Printing is a sign of an aftermarket regulator; Delco used a good stamp so
> it couldn't wear off.  Thus be careful when cleaning it looking for the
> mark, in case yours is printed. If a regulator is run at the wrong polarity
> it will work OK for a while, maybe quite a while.  But the points do burn up
> quicker if run with reverse polarity. 
>
> You can also tell the polarity of a regulator by looking at the points, but
> I don't remember how.  Maybe someone can explain that to us.
>
> Polarity will not affect the direction of rotation, for either starting or
> for generating.
>
>   



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Thu May 17 06:27:49 2007
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:27:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Ernst Plank Vacuum engine, (Flame Licker)
Message-ID: <000301c79887$2bae7950$e5c30b52@no1>

See http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2611189350028520097mWltZy
       http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2966163970028520097zOeSxK

Does anyone have a better photo of the Decal on the base of the engine.
I am trying to re-draw thise to make a replacement.
TIA


Dave Croft 
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From edurand at mchsi.com  Thu May 17 08:03:07 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:03:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M Power Station
In-Reply-To: <464C559E.9080602@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEHBFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Tommy and others:

The biggest high is seeing these large iron monsters getting new homes and not coming back from China as modern junk.

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Judge Tommy
> Turner
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 08:16 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
> Power Station
> 
> 
> Great work you did Elden of getting the word out 
> about these hunks of 
> iron.  I'll get to see a couple of them, at East 
> TN and Coolspring, in 
> the future.  Thanks for the photos!
> 
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, Ky
> 
> 
> >Rick:
> >
> >The gensets are now off the island and being 
> set-up in their new homes.  I will continue 
> updating the web page until all threee are in 
> place and making smoke.  Feel free to use 
> anything on the page for the article in ISSES.  
> >
> >If you want to use any of the photos and the 
> quality of them on the page isn't as good as you 
> need (I've dumbed them down for slow hookups), 
> contact me with the photo names (gotten by right 
> clicking on the photo and selecting "Properties") 
> and I'll send the best quality images I have.
> >
> >All I ask is that I get to proof read it before 
> publication and get a comp. copy of the print 
> media when the issue with the article is released.
> >
> >Here's the "F-M' Power Station" page.
> >
> >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand/F-M%20Pow
er%20Station/F-M%20Power%20Station.html
>
>Take care - Elden DuRand
>edurand at mchsi.com
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 
>
>P.S.:  Note that my email address has changed.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>> Behalf Of Rick
>>Rowlands
>>Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 01:36 PM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Literature Request for F-M 
>>Power Station
>>
>>
>>Elden,
>>
>>We would like to do an article for the 
>>International Stationary Steam Engine 
>>Society's Bulletin about the FM rescue project so 
>>take good notes and 
>>pictures.
>>
>>No ISSES isn't just about stationary steam, we're 
>>also into big stationary 
>>IC engines too!
>>
>>Rick Rowlands
>>US ISSES Secretary
>>    
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Thu May 17 09:59:45 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:59:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT - Hauling offer
In-Reply-To: <000c01c79856$424ab470$e1d9eedc@fred>
References: <000c01c79856$424ab470$e1d9eedc@fred>
Message-ID: <3866.165.206.180.53.1179421185.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

I'll be leaving Iowa EARLY AM (VERY) on May 25th for Reading PA.

I'll be getting there early Saturday, then hopefully get back to Iowa on
Sunday.

I'll have a 16' flatbed and 3/4 ton pickup.
If there are any small parts/engines, etc. that need a ride........  If
you can get them to or from the towns/cities I'll end up in........

I'll be on a schedule and travelling with another fellow who knows Eagles
very well (the type of car I'm picking up) so can't make huge side trips,
but if something would work......


Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 17 11:40:58 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:40:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engine s.com>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
	<1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Bill,
         What the heck kind of "VERY HEAVY trailer" are you pulling? Hell, 
my 10,000 GVW only weight about 2,500 lbs. Most 12,000 GVW trailers don't 
weigh much more than that. You will be well under 5 tons total. What's the 
big deal?
         Dave
PS, Keep in mind that if your trailer is licensed at 10,001 GVW (or above) 
that special regulations "kick in."

At 06:58 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
>Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
>life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
>and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
>out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
>on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!
>Bill



From bill at antique-engines.com  Thu May 17 10:59:18 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
	<1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <4430.165.206.180.53.1179424758.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

http://theamcpages.com/images/javelin/jav-trailer.jpg

That thing is all channel iron and I-beams. The ramps, stored under the
trailer in iron channels, are over 100 pounds each.
Takes 2 guys to lift the winch I have on the front of it (you can just
about see the blue spool of the winch in that photo).
The beast is HEAVY.
Naw, it's licensed as an ordinary "home-built".

Well sounds like I won't have any problems, then.

Bill

> Hi Bill,
>          What the heck kind of "VERY HEAVY trailer" are you pulling? Hell,
> my 10,000 GVW only weight about 2,500 lbs. Most 12,000 GVW trailers don't
> weigh much more than that. You will be well under 5 tons total. What's the
> big deal?
>          Dave
> PS, Keep in mind that if your trailer is licensed at 10,001 GVW (or above)
> that special regulations "kick in."
>
> At 06:58 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>>In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
>>Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
>>life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
>>and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
>>out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
>>on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!
>>Bill
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 17 12:32:55 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:32:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT again,,,,trip to Reading PA
In-Reply-To: <4430.165.206.180.53.1179424758.squirrel@www.antique-engine s.com>
References: <002301c797b2$35335d40$6401a8c0@PaulNew>
	<1960.165.206.180.53.1179403103.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070517133401.04ec9ad8@mail.alltel.net>
	<4430.165.206.180.53.1179424758.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517143126.04f01a48@mail.alltel.net>

You will be WELL under 3 1/2 tons and have NOTHING to worry about. Have a 
good trip!
         Dave

At 12:59 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>http://theamcpages.com/images/javelin/jav-trailer.jpg
>
>That thing is all channel iron and I-beams. The ramps, stored under the
>trailer in iron channels, are over 100 pounds each.
>Takes 2 guys to lift the winch I have on the front of it (you can just
>about see the blue spool of the winch in that photo).
>The beast is HEAVY.
>Naw, it's licensed as an ordinary "home-built".
>
>Well sounds like I won't have any problems, then.
>
>Bill
>
> > Hi Bill,
> >          What the heck kind of "VERY HEAVY trailer" are you pulling? Hell,
> > my 10,000 GVW only weight about 2,500 lbs. Most 12,000 GVW trailers don't
> > weigh much more than that. You will be well under 5 tons total. What's the
> > big deal?
> >          Dave
> > PS, Keep in mind that if your trailer is licensed at 10,001 GVW (or above)
> > that special regulations "kick in."
> >
> > At 06:58 AM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
> >>In case I didn't already respond (getting old, memory and such)
> >>Thanks for the tips/info. I've never driven east of Chicago (sheltered
> >>life), although many years ago I drove my AMX through COLO, Denver area
> >>and all, up into mountains, etc but that was a CAR that I knew inside and
> >>out, not a truck with a VERY HEAVY trailer, then a heavy (3500 pound) car
> >>on top of that. Also, no toll roads on the trip to COLO back in 1980!
> >>Bill
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 13:47:05 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:47:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <215F9470-8E09-44E2-B808-3C636C89055F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>


Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and darkly 
age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea what will 
quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve

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From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Thu May 17 13:58:03 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:58:03 +0100
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
References: <215F9470-8E09-44E2-B808-3C636C89055F@rustyiron.com>
	<BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <017d01c798c6$0fdb5f10$8335c53e@doc>

There's some info here that may help -
http://web2.ccpl.org/prvEmployees/HTML/scienceproject/OnlineExhibits/ncw/Gre
enPatinaFinish.html

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Royster
> Sent: 17 May 2007 21:47
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
> 
> 
> Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to 
> quickly and darkly 
> age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any 
> idea what will 
> quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> 
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 17 14:36:03 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <464CCAC3.2080907@scrtc.com>

Steve,
    Have you tried liver of sulfur?

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


>
> Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and 
> darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea 
> what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Thu May 17 14:46:02 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:46:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
Message-ID: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>

Well, my Wednesday Portland trip was a success.  Stopped in Avon, IN 
to pick up my engine and then out to Portland.  I think I forgot just 
how big the Portland Swap was.  I must have walked 6-7 miles total 
when it was all said and done.  Next year I might have to take a 
weeks vacation and stay a couple nights over there.

Aside from the 3hp IHC M that I picked up on the way, 2 other toys 
followed me home.  I picked up an old Swisher "Ride-King" 3-wheeled 
riding lawnmower.  I used it as a butt-buggy for about an hour, but 
it was too slow and I figure my fat @$$ needs the exercise 
anyway!  Sure did get some funny looks from people while I was riding 
it around.  Don't know if it was because of the weird looking mower, 
or maybe because I was wearing shorts and a T-shirt when everyone 
else had jackets on.  Wimps!

Also picked up a barn fresh 2 1/4 hp Economy model-S.  The Wico mag 
is gone, the piston skirt has a small break at the bottom and the 
head has a crack in it.  But other than that it looks like it's all 
there, and it even has some compression.  I'll try to get some 
pictures up soon.

C-ya...
Tony



From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 17 16:32:50 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
References: <215F9470-8E09-44E2-B808-3C636C89055F@rustyiron.com>
	<BAY144-F22B9C6241200530A86D0BE95330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517183157.04f0f2f0@mail.alltel.net>

At 03:47 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:

>Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and 
>darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea what 
>will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve

Krylon bronze spray can?
         Dave 



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 19:41:50 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:41:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <464CCAC3.2080907@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>

Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used for? Is 
it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve


>From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
>
>Steve,
>     Have you tried liver of sulfur?
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
> >
> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
> > darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea
> > what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> >
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 19:43:25 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:43:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <017d01c798c6$0fdb5f10$8335c53e@doc>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F13F7F23365A0C2749085E795320@phx.gbl>

Thanks Pete, good info there. I'll have to experiment. Steve


>From: "Peter Scales" <peter at loud-n-clear.net>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:58:03 +0100
>
>There's some info here that may help -
>http://web2.ccpl.org/prvEmployees/HTML/scienceproject/OnlineExhibits/ncw/Gre
>enPatinaFinish.html
>
>Regards
>
>      Pete
>--
>Peter Scales
>
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> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> > Steve Royster
> > Sent: 17 May 2007 21:47
> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
> >
> >
> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to
> > quickly and darkly
> > age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any
> > idea what will
> > quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Thu May 17 19:45:56 2007
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:45:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517183157.04f0f2f0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>

Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon would 
certainly be quick! Steve


>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:50 -0500
>
>At 03:47 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>
> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea 
>what
> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>
>Krylon bronze spray can?
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu May 17 19:48:08 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:48:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
Message-ID: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>



Hi guys
A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))

My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please. 
No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!

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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Thu May 17 20:12:19 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <c12e91a831c65aa7f486f45dea4d8faa@chartertn.net>

Lime sulfur, which you can get at the farm and garden store, is close 
enough.

John

On May 17, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Steve Royster wrote:

> Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used 
> for? Is it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu May 17 20:39:17 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:39:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <464D1FE5.2020007@scrtc.com>

Steve,
    Go to this website and you'll get some info.  We used to use Liver 
of Sulphur on copper to give it a very aged look.  In this link they are 
using it on Sterling Silver I think.  You can order some directly from 
this site

http://www.cooltools.us/Liver-of-Sulphur-p/los.htm?gclid=CNu6_a_jlowCFQpMYQodtCVp4g

    Here's another site:

http://www.dickblick.com/zz605/05/

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



> Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used 
> for? Is it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve
>
>
>> From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list 
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
>>
>> Steve,
>>     Have you tried liver of sulfur?
>>
>> Tommy Turner
>> Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>> > darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea
>> > what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>> >
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From falcon at telenet.net  Thu May 17 21:51:29 2007
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:51:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <464D30D1.80903@telenet.net>



plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
> 
> Hi guys
> A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
> 
> My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
> and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please. 
> No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
> I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
> 
> Peter, Oz

A US model rear axle may not fit if it was not a direct US model. The 
Fords built in other countries sometimes used different suppliers.

-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri May 18 02:52:38 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:52:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
	<464D30D1.80903@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <002301c79932$44b20380$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Steve
OK on the different models, I was aware of this.
I will get more details from him tomorrow on model, year etc.
I need someone in Oz to help first.
The wreckers here are having trouble, there must be an old one laying around 
somewhere, although not common in Oz.
I was wondering whether the old Ambulances here were F250 V8's ????

Peter, Oz



>
> plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>> A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
>>
>> My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early 
>> model
>> and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help 
>> please.
>> No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
>> I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
>>
>> Peter, Oz
>
> A US model rear axle may not fit if it was not a direct US model. The
> Fords built in other countries sometimes used different suppliers.
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
> Near Cooperstown, New York
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri May 18 04:45:29 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 04:45:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <002301c79932$44b20380$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
	<464D30D1.80903@telenet.net> <002301c79932$44b20380$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <2118.165.206.180.53.1179488729.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

You'll need to know the axle number, as even among F250 V8's, they may
have different axles. I know when the front lockouts went south on mine,
there were at least 2, maybe 3 possible front axles on it and different
lockouts. (it's 4 wheel drive and the automatic hubs busted, like they
ALWAYS do)

In other words just because it's a 19xx or a 20xx model year F250 V8
doesn't mean the axles will interchange.

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> Hi Steve
> OK on the different models, I was aware of this.
> I will get more details from him tomorrow on model, year etc.
> I need someone in Oz to help first.
> The wreckers here are having trouble, there must be an old one laying
> around
> somewhere, although not common in Oz.
> I was wondering whether the old Ambulances here were F250 V8's ????
>
> Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>>
>> plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys
>>> A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
>>>
>>> My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early
>>> model
>>> and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help
>>> please.
>>> No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
>>> I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
>>>
>>> Peter, Oz
>>
>> A US model rear axle may not fit if it was not a direct US model. The
>> Fords built in other countries sometimes used different suppliers.
>>
>> --
>> Steve W.
>> Near Cooperstown, New York
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From plb at iinet.net.au  Fri May 18 02:57:44 2007
From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:57:44 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <002801c79932$fbb5aaf0$f32100d0$@net.au>

Peter, I would think the axle would be easily got from a wrecker. There are
heaps that specialise in F Truck parts. Its likely to be either a Ford 10
inch or a Dana axle. The dual and single axles are not interchangeable. I
had a 79 250 with a Dana and my 91 and 97 350's had Ford 10 inch.
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
plowe at exemail.com.au
Sent: Friday, 18 May 2007 10:48 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)



Hi guys
A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))

My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please. 
No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!

Peter, Oz

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From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri May 18 06:50:01 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:50:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070517183157.04f0f2f0@mail.alltel.net>
	<BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070518084711.04f55450@mail.alltel.net>

Now you tell me!
         Dave
PS, Sulfur can be found on any periodic table/chart in the back of a 
chemistry book!

At 09:45 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon would 
>certainly be quick! Steve
>
>
>>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:50 -0500
>>
>>At 03:47 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:
>>
>> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea what
>> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>>
>>Krylon bronze spray can?
>>          Dave
>>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri May 18 07:11:33 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:11:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ford F250 Help wanted now stationary engine ;-)
In-Reply-To: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200755182488973@M2W006.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070518090808.04fa2678@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Peter,
         You will need to know the gear ratio (4:11, 3:73, etc.) as well as 
the truck model. This is epically true if it's a 4 wheel drive unit. There 
should be a tag on the differential giving you the information that you need.
         Dave


>Hi guys
>A little off topic but it is stationary ;-))
>My son-law has I think a Ford F250? or 350 V8 truck (pickup) an early model
>and needs a rear axle urgently, is there anyone in Oz that can help please.
>No replies for the USA at present, due to costs in reight.
>I will have to check with him when I get home as to the actual model!!
>Peter, Oz



From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri May 18 07:50:47 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <464D1FE5.2020007@scrtc.com>
References: <BAY144-F19A2334446BD4203810D0C95320@phx.gbl>
	<464D1FE5.2020007@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <3746.165.206.180.53.1179499847.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

EEEEwww! LIVER!
Perhaps liver and onions would work, too?
I think they have that at the Iowa State Fair, like "liver on a stick"

Want your parts to look aged?
Just ship it to CA and have them leave it outside for a day or two....

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com


> Steve,
>     Go to this website and you'll get some info.  We used to use Liver
> of Sulphur on copper to give it a very aged look.  In this link they are
> using it on Sterling Silver I think.  You can order some directly from
> this site
>
> http://www.cooltools.us/Liver-of-Sulphur-p/los.htm?gclid=CNu6_a_jlowCFQpMYQodtCVp4g
>
>     Here's another site:
>
> http://www.dickblick.com/zz605/05/
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>> Tommy, I don't know what it is or where you get it. What is it used
>> for? Is it something you get at the farm and garden store?  Steve
>>
>>
>>> From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>> Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] patina on brass
>>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:36:03 -0400
>>>
>>> Steve,
>>>     Have you tried liver of sulfur?
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
>>> Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>>> > darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any idea
>>> > what will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
>>> >
>>> > _________________________________________________________________
>>> > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail--award-winning
>>> > Windows Live Hotmail.
>>> >
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>>>
>>> >
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Fri May 18 20:45:34 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:45:34 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>

Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can 
get rid of those horrid pictures of me!

http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92


--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From glenforge at hotmail.com  Fri May 18 22:23:15 2007
From: glenforge at hotmail.com (Peter Cumming)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:23:15 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB  liner
Message-ID: <BAY118-F28B11EADFC1C53CCE2E669B6310@phx.gbl>

Gday,

Does anyone know where I can find a Southern Cross YB cylinder liner (wet) 
even if it is a bit worn?

I've decided to replace the one in my newly restored YB as I discovered the 
clearance was way more than I had previously thought.


Peter Cumming
Wagin,
Western Australia
glenforge at hotmail.com

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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Sat May 19 02:48:29 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 17:48:29 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB  liner
References: <BAY118-F28B11EADFC1C53CCE2E669B6310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000f01c799fa$daef5460$f301a8c0@armstrong>

if you bore it out and fit a restoration sleeve you can rebore to suit the 
piston, try veales 0893663666 quote size of finished diameter

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
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V.C.C. of WA. member
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From: "Peter Cumming" <glenforge at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB liner


> Gday,
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a Southern Cross YB cylinder liner (wet)
> even if it is a bit worn?
>
> I've decided to replace the one in my newly restored YB as I discovered 
> the
> clearance was way more than I had previously thought.
>
>
> Peter Cumming
> Wagin,
> Western Australia
> glenforge at hotmail.com
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat May 19 04:19:52 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 06:19:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070519061855.04f70b80@mail.alltel.net>

At 10:45 PM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
>Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
>get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>Tony Kimmell

Hi Tony, Well, you seem to be half right!
         Dave 



From edurand at mchsi.com  Sat May 19 04:56:10 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 06:56:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEJLFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Excellent whiteness on your web page!

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Tony &
> Jackie
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:46 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures
> 
> 
> Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now 
> gone!  Finally I can 
> get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
> 
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat May 19 06:52:25 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:52:25 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Tony
Is it still snowing in the USA, I am getting snow blindness from your new 
web page ;-))))))))))

Peter, Oz






> Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
> get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
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From plb at iinet.net.au  Sat May 19 07:59:17 2007
From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:59:17 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB  liner
In-Reply-To: <000f01c799fa$daef5460$f301a8c0@armstrong>
References: <BAY118-F28B11EADFC1C53CCE2E669B6310@phx.gbl>
	<000f01c799fa$daef5460$f301a8c0@armstrong>
Message-ID: <000b01c79a26$46510ca0$d2f325e0$@net.au>

If you want to bore it out and can't get it done locally I've done a number
of them. Let me know if you need to.
Ray Freeman
Perth WA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of kevin
armstrong
Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2007 5:48 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Southern Cross YB liner

if you bore it out and fit a restoration sleeve you can rebore to suit the 
piston, try veales 0893663666 quote size of finished diameter

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Cumming" <glenforge at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] Southern Cross YB liner


> Gday,
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a Southern Cross YB cylinder liner (wet)
> even if it is a bit worn?
>
> I've decided to replace the one in my newly restored YB as I discovered 
> the
> clearance was way more than I had previously thought.
>
>
> Peter Cumming
> Wagin,
> Western Australia
> glenforge at hotmail.com
>
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From kimmell at verizon.net  Sat May 19 07:32:06 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 09:32:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <0JIA006P2LQGCTLC@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

Man you guys sure are picky... ;-) I was just impressed with the fact 
that I still remember how to write HTML.  This was just a temporary 
page to plant my pics on for the time being.  I've changed the 
background for all those who don't like blizzards!

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat May 19 12:48:01 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 20:48:01 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <0JIA006P2LQGCTLC@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIA006P2LQGCTLC@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705191248h19a47f7cmc1c6873bc5c0b92a@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/05/07, Tony & Jackie <kimmell at verizon.net> wrote:
> Man you guys sure are picky... ;-) I was just impressed with the fact
> that I still remember how to write HTML.  This was just a temporary
> page to plant my pics on for the time being.  I've changed the
> background for all those who don't like blizzards!
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell

I suppose we could have a little 'administrator fun' here, but we'll
give Tony a chance to get sorted out first.... :-))

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 13:21:07 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <002201c79a1c$eea48670$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <815967.18980.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Howdy Folks,
  A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))
   
  Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
  http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm
   
  A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs.  I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,
   
  It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
  The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right.  The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places.  Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.
   
  You ask which Sattley is it???
  Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
  Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
  This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
  It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
  The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel.  
  The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.
   
  The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
  He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
  He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))
   
  Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out.  Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,,  Let's see here,,,
  A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,
   
  That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 13:38:15 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:38:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <815967.18980.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <376716.53178.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
  Ron

Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 14:03:47 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:03:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <376716.53178.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <904906.10897.qm@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Here is a pic. or 5 of what I have and what I think you have.
  http://www.hit-miss.com/gallery/album16/sattley_optimized
  Ron
  
"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 14:08:49 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <376716.53178.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <297639.51217.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
  Do you know who made it?
  Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
  Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan
       
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 14:59:53 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <297639.51217.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <932390.68099.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

No I don't for sure. I think Rasine. Spelled wrong. Do a Google search for Sattley engine and there is some info there.
   
  Ron

Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
Do you know who made it?
Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Sat May 19 15:11:27 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 18:11:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <932390.68099.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c79a62$a5a9a720$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

I think Montgomery Wards sold them for a while, seems like I have seen them
in blue.

Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ron Frost,
Kersey, PA
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:00 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.

No I don't for sure. I think Rasine. Spelled wrong. Do a Google search for
Sattley engine and there is some info there.
   
  Ron

Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
Do you know who made it?
Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some
45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for
them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to
give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see
below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The
green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this
engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he
bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872
under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole
governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to
make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing
the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see
here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice
sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 15:21:49 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <904906.10897.qm@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <281490.55757.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the pix, Ron
   
  I printed them out and showed them to my new engine.
  Mine has no V groove in the muffler side flywheel. It does have an 8" X 2-3/8" pulley on that side.
  Mine has no sub-base like yours has.  Is that aluminum or unpainted steel?
  Mine has a different model Wico mag.  It is bigger and has a different lead out.
  Mine doesn't have the gear cover like I think I see on your pix.
   
  The bore & stroke seems to be 3-5/8" X 4-1/2"
  I saw the holes where the engine tag belongs on top of the hopper.
  I need some kind of fuel tank. Right now all it has is a little B&S tank that looks kinda stupid.
   
  I was guessing the paint color is right because of all the nice pin stripping and decals.
  It makes me want to cry that whoever last painted this engine didn't prep it right.
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    Here is a pic. or 5 of what I have and what I think you have.
  
http://www.hit-miss.com/gallery/album16/sattley_optimized
  
Ron

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some 45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872 under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 15:24:13 2007
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <003f01c79a62$a5a9a720$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <102069.97242.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Montgomery wards did for sure. The name was Raciene Sattley. Still can't spell Raciene.
  Ron

Paul <pwaugh at mchsi.com> wrote:
  I think Montgomery Wards sold them for a while, seems like I have seen them
in blue.

Paul Waugh

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Kersey, PA
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:00 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.

No I don't for sure. I think Rasine. Spelled wrong. Do a Google search for
Sattley engine and there is some info there.

Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply, Ron.
Do you know who made it?
Does your have an engine tag with serial number on it?
Alan

"Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" wrote:
Alan, I got one just like it. They are a good little engine. I got mine some
45 years ago and it was a dark green. I think this is the correct color for
them. 
Ron

Alan Bowen wrote:
Howdy Folks,
A lurker crawling out from under the rug here. 8>))

Spring swap meet at the Buckley club today.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/index.htm

A nice little Sattley jumped in my truck because the PO didn't know 'nuff to
give it the care it needs. I think it is a 1-1/2 hp engine anyway,,,, see
below,,,

It has been painted a nice dark green with name decals and pin stripping.
The problem is the green was painted over yellow and not prepared right. The
green is chipping off to show the ugly yellow in too many places. Is this
engine supposed to be green? The PO said it was painted like that when he
bought it.

You ask which Sattley is it???
Well, The engine is missing it's tag if it ever had one,,,,
Who built the Sattley engines? Since they are not listed in A.G.E.S. 1872
under Sattley I don't know where to look.
This is a nice little open crank H&M with Wico spark plug fired engine. 
It has two solid flywheels that are 15-1/2" and have a 1-3/4" face. 
The flyweights are on the governor not the flywheel. 
The mag side flywheel has a little flip out crank.

The PO had $400 on it, but blew it when he told me it had a problem.
He said it ran great but it wouldn't lock out and miss.
He, and another guy that "seemed" to know a lot, "showed" me where the whole
governor was worn out and needed to be replaced so I made an offer. 8>))

Of course I had already turned the engine slowly and pulled a flyweight to
make it lock out. Then I had held the flyweight and turned it further seeing
the chipped edge of the lockout piece slip out of place. ,,,,,, Let's see
here,,,
A couple bolts, a little weld bead then go to the grinder and make a nice
sharp edge,,,,,

That engine just seemed to be begging me to give it a new home. 8>))

Alan Bowen
Williamsburg, Michigan

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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sat May 19 17:33:14 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 20:33:14 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
Message-ID: <c18.12d8bf23.3380f14a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/19/2007 3:29:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ron217_2000 at yahoo.com writes:

Montgomery wards did for sure. 


Hi,
 
I have 2 Sattleys  made for Montgomery Ward.  One (1? HP)  is throttle 
controlled and the other (1? HP) is "hit - miss".  The  throttle controlled one has 
a kerosene mixer on it.  Neither have a sub  base.   Both have Wico EKs.  
These are easy starting  engines.
Both need paint - neither have any original paint.
I have seen other Sattleys and I have yet to see two that look  alike.  

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From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Sun May 20 09:25:13 2007
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:25:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!
Message-ID: <000901c79afb$723b34a0$0201a8c0@b21a5>

I got my Taylor Vacuum Engine running!!!   My club had a crank-up two
Sundays ago, and I brought the Taylor.  I asked for help figuring out my
timing problem- that no matter what I did, the start/retard lever always had
WAY too much of an effect.  We solved the prob, and got it running nicely!
I can start it on the first pull now!  :D

Here's the KEY piece of advice:  the Wico retard/advance lever never works
right!  Just set it to "run" (down), time the engine so it works with that
setting, then forget about using it, "we all do it that way".  Ha!  I
would've had it running a year ago if I'd known that!!
Mucho thanks to the Pioneer Gas Engine guys who helped me!

I have a 15 second digital video of its first run at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/images/TaylorFirstRunOK.avi .  The
file is about 2MB in size.

You can see the blue tape on the flywheel flash by that I was using to time
it.  Using VirtualDub video editting software, I viewed this video
frame-by-frame to count the revolutions, and the engine's doing 368 RPM
here.  The engine is rated at 450 RPM, so we indeed have slowed it down a
bit.

-Rick I.
The full story's at:  Rick's Taylor Vacuum Engine web site:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 13:10:39 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <c18.12d8bf23.3380f14a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <910169.77543.qm@web37311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know if there is a serial number stamped on the engine.
  It would be great to find one because my New Sattley is missing it's tag from the top of the hopper.
   
  Thanks,
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

 
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 13:42:28 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!
In-Reply-To: <000901c79afb$723b34a0$0201a8c0@b21a5>
Message-ID: <428125.94874.qm@web37312.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Very nice video, Rick !!
   
  Another case of, "Never Say Never."

  My 1928 Hercules S is a 1 3/4hp H&M with a Wico EK.
  When I forget to flip that retard lever up it reminds me by kicking hard as I pull it over.
  Flip the lever up and start the engine.
  Flip it back down and she picks up a little attitude.
  I use this engine to power my two hole corn sheller.
  It's gov. spring is a wimp compared to the very stiff one I removed.
  My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.
  This engine will run with the lever up or down.
  It starts better with it up and runs better with it down.
   
  Yes, I could set my engine like you say and slow it way down. 
  That wouldn't run my sheller too good though. 8>))
   
  When I first started this barn fresh engine with that stiff spring it was a raging beast. 
  The whole thing jumped into the air every time it fired and it hardly ever locked out. 
  The challenge was shutting it down.  
  There was no way to hold in that kill button on the Wico.  
  I had to take several swipes at it to shut down the mixer needle.
  A nice weak spring and a little adjustment of the lockout parts and 15 minutes later I had a very nice running engine.
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
   
  
"Rick I." <rdi at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
    I got my Taylor Vacuum Engine running!!! My club had a crank-up two
Sundays ago, and I brought the Taylor. I asked for help figuring out my
timing problem- that no matter what I did, the start/retard lever always had
WAY too much of an effect. We solved the prob, and got it running nicely!
I can start it on the first pull now! :D

Here's the KEY piece of advice: the Wico retard/advance lever never works
right! Just set it to "run" (down), time the engine so it works with that
setting, then forget about using it, "we all do it that way". Ha! I
would've had it running a year ago if I'd known that!!
Mucho thanks to the Pioneer Gas Engine guys who helped me!
  I have a 15 second digital video of its first run at:
  http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/images/TaylorFirstRunOK.avi
   
  The file is about 2MB in size.

You can see the blue tape on the flywheel flash by that I was using to time
it. Using VirtualDub video editting software, I viewed this video
frame-by-frame to count the revolutions, and the engine's doing 368 RPM
here. The engine is rated at 450 RPM, so we indeed have slowed it down a
bit.

-Rick I.
The full story's at: Rick's Taylor Vacuum Engine web site:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/
   

       
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sun May 20 14:02:38 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 17:02:38 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
Message-ID: <c5a.111c59c3.3382116e@aol.com>

Alan, 
Here is interesting correspondence on Sattleys  which can be found on 
SmokStak.
 
< _http://www.smokstak.com/forum/search.php?searchid=395203_ 
(http://www.smokstak.com/forum/search.php?searchid=395203)  >   



Francis Maciel
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May 20 15:27:11 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:27:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
Message-ID: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi all
Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm

If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the index.htm 
page

Peter, Oz 



From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Sun May 20 15:48:40 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 23:48:40 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <01ac01c79b31$032f4200$8335c53e@doc>

'Tis white for me too.  Using IE6.  If I do a 'view source' I can see that
there was intended to be a page there, but I haven't been able  to spot any
glaring mistakes - too close to my bedtime....

Regards

     Pete
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> Peter Lowe
> Sent: 20 May 2007 23:27
> To: ATIS; Oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
> 
> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
> 
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not 
> the index.htm 
> page
> 
> Peter, Oz 
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From reb1952 at bellsouth.net  Sun May 20 16:30:27 2007
From: reb1952 at bellsouth.net (Dickie)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:30:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
References: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>

Just a blank page at my house.

Dick
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From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site


> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
>
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the index.htm
> page
>
> Peter, Oz
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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Sun May 20 17:18:29 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 17:18:29 -0700
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>


>> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
>> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any  
>> idea what
>> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve

>> Krylon bronze spray can?
>>          Dave

> Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon  
> would certainly be quick! Steve


Back in the non-PC days, we used to call silver spray paint "Mexican  
Chrome."
Now we can start calling brown spray paint "Pittsburg Patina."

Rob




From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Sun May 20 17:23:04 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:23:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
Message-ID: <004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

Works for me
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dickie
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:30 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site

Just a blank page at my house.

Dick
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To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site


> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
>
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the index.htm
> page
>
> Peter, Oz
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun May 20 17:56:04 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:56:04 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
Message-ID: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Some pics from the weekend:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun May 20 17:31:19 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:31:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>
References: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
	<519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070520193030.04aa9340@mail.alltel.net>


> >> >Well, I have the info on ageing brass, but I now need to quickly and
> >> >darkly age large sheets of copper 24"x84" . Does anyone have any
> >> idea what
> >> >will quickly turn copper a dark bronze color? Thanks ,Steve
> >> Krylon bronze spray can?
> >>          Dave
> > Sorry Dave, I inadvertantly left out a key word.... patina. Krylon
> > would certainly be quick! Steve
>Back in the non-PC days, we used to call silver spray paint "Mexican
>Chrome."
>Now we can start calling brown spray paint "Pittsburg Patina."
>Rob

NOT "brown" Rob, BRONZE!
         Dave 



From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Sun May 20 23:07:24 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:07:24 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <01d801c79b6e$4d3e8800$8335c53e@doc>

Thanks, Patrick - looks as though it had been a bit damp?

Regards

     Pete
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> Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
> 
> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sun May 20 23:34:05 2007
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:34:05 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
References: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001501c79b72$08ba1ba0$e5c30b52@no1>

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To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally


> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW

Thanks for the pictures Patrick.
I notice that the Buzacott 2A and Champion 2A look like copies of a Fuller and Johnson NB,
Are they made by the same firm?
PS I like the Aussie version of a motorcycle stand at
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay07/ca507034.JPG
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv 



From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Mon May 21 00:58:07 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:58:07 +1200
Subject: [SEL]  bead blasting valve stems
Message-ID: <000101c79b7d$c5304240$0301a8c0@tamatea1>

The first method is to mount the valve in a drill and press emery paper onto
the carbon deposits while the valve is spinning be careful on tapered edge
of valve most of the carbon is underneath the valve or on top the carbon on
top can be scraped off carefully with a blunt screwdriver i use the emery on
the carbon underneath as you can damage if you try to scrape the carbon off
add some kerosine as a lubricant as can get quite hot it also helps soften
the carbon..

 

 

These are ideas written in a 1917 car repair book.

 

Carbon can be manually removed by blunt scrapers screwdrivers with the shape
edges removed need to gain access to do this by removing head etc.

 

Carbon can be removed with an oxygen flame by burning it off.

 

Carbon can be softened ie soaking valves in a solution prior to cleaning can
be softened by kerosine,wood alcohol acetone or other carbon solvents

 

 In the book it read: a simple preventative of carbon deposits is to put a
tablespoon full of kerosine in each cylinder through the compression relief
cocks at the end of a days run while the engine is still hot.This softens up
the carbon over night and when the moter is started the next day a large
proportion of the carbon deposited the previous day will be blown out with
the exhaust gases.

 

Hope that helps brent nz




From fsouthwell at googlemail.com  Mon May 21 01:31:14 2007
From: fsouthwell at googlemail.com (Fred Southwell)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:31:14 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
	<004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>

Works for me using Firefox.

On 21/05/07, Paul <pwaugh at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> Works for me
> Paul Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dickie
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:30 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>
> Just a blank page at my house.
>
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org"
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>
>
> > Hi all
> > Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
> >
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
> >
> > If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the
> index.htm
> > page
> >
> > Peter, Oz
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
>
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-- 
Fred. Nr Brighton U.K.
See all my pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/g6zru



From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Mon May 21 01:45:43 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 20:45:43 +1200
Subject: [SEL]  shearing plant questions/answers please
Message-ID: <000a01c79b84$6bd04c70$0301a8c0@tamatea1>

I had some problems with the head bolts on my wolseley moter some also broke
as well the metal seemed very soft wondered is this metal fatigue or maybe
hydrogen embrittlement i spoke to another guy regarding stud bolts on a ford
prefect 1951 4 cyl flat head cast engine it had the same problem with the
studs snapping as they get soft and the head couldnt be torque down to the
correct settings as studs would snap only option was to replace the head
bolts for new ones problem then solved. brent nz 




From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Mon May 21 01:56:22 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:56:22 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <002801c79b2e$02e1c5a0$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <01e501c79b85$e84414c0$8335c53e@doc>

Had a chance to look at it properly - the closing tag for <title> is given
as <title> instead of </title> (3rd line) - this is breaking IE6 and my
HomeSite 5 built-in browser.  If Tony fixes that, it will work fine in IE6.

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Lowe
> Sent: 20 May 2007 23:27
> To: ATIS; Oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
> 
> Hi all
> Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
> 
> If I play with the site address I can see the images but not 
> the index.htm 
> page
> 
> Peter, Oz 
> 
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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Mon May 21 02:29:19 2007
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:29:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
Message-ID: <4651666f.9e.1135.1449823346@netspeed.com.au>

thanks for the pics patrick 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Stationary Engine
Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:56:04 +1000

> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
> 
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From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon May 21 04:21:12 2007
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:21:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
References: <4651666f.9e.1135.1449823346@netspeed.com.au>
Message-ID: <001c01c79b9a$262a6550$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Enjoyed the photo's.Thanks Patrick, 

 Some pics from the weekend:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
 
 
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>> 
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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Mon May 21 04:54:31 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 07:54:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

Looks like a fun week end, thanks for pictures
Paul Waugh

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick M
Livingstone
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:56 PM
To: Stationary Engine ATIS List; Stationary Engine Mailing List
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally

Some pics from the weekend:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

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From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon May 21 04:59:21 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 04:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
	<004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Apparently FF ignores the issue with the title closing tag, IE, OTOH, does
not.
Funny, IE is the browser where people get their pages to work BASED ON
BUGS in IE!

Go Micky-Soft!

Bill
Runnells, Iowa
Chapman/OWE&PCo. Registry and History
http://antique-engines.com
1970 Javelin
1982 Eagle SX/4 coming soon
http://theamcpages.com

> Works for me using Firefox.
>
> On 21/05/07, Paul <pwaugh at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Works for me
>> Paul Waugh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dickie
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:30 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>>
>> Just a blank page at my house.
>>
>> Dick
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org"
>> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:27 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
>>
>>
>> > Hi all
>> > Can everyone see Tony's web page, all I get is white.
>> >
>> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92/index.htm
>> >
>> > If I play with the site address I can see the images but not the
>> index.htm
>> > page
>> >
>> > Peter, Oz
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> >
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Fred. Nr Brighton U.K.
> See all my pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/g6zru
>
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon May 21 05:17:18 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:17:18 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <001501c79b72$08ba1ba0$e5c30b52@no1>
Message-ID: <20070521121627.QKYZ26028.oaamta08ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Dave. The engines are a copy of the 1.5hp F&J N re-rated to 2hp; they
even use the same parts numbers! The Australian copies were made by Rosebery
Engine Works in Sydney and were sold under many different names including:
Buzacott, Champion, Rosebery, New Record, The Engine and many others.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----


Thanks for the pictures Patrick.
I notice that the Buzacott 2A and Champion 2A look like copies of a Fuller
and Johnson NB,
Are they made by the same firm?
PS I like the Aussie version of a motorcycle stand at
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay07/ca507034.JPG
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv 





From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon May 21 05:28:52 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:28:52 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Odd Unidentified Engine
In-Reply-To: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <20070521005514.LMXQ25364.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070521082508.02e958c0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Does anyone have a clue as to what this little engine is? Fellow I know 
just got it and asked me what it is but Its totally unfamiliar to me.    Mark

http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/oddengine.jpg



Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Mon May 21 06:17:07 2007
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:17:07 +0000
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2hp Sattley Paint Color and ID Please.
In-Reply-To: <281490.55757.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY129-F284D1CE0029779CF331287C8370@phx.gbl>

Alan,

Your mag looks like a Wico PR mag.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA

=================

>From: Alan Bowen <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
>
>   Mine has a different model Wico mag.  It is bigger and has a different 
>lead out.
>
>   Alan Bowen
>   Williamsburg, Michigan
>

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From curt at imc-group.com  Mon May 21 07:18:07 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:18:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
References: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
Message-ID: <4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>

Patrick,
Ya know, you are seriously under appreciated! Your unbelievable 
dedication to bringing us all phenomenal, almost weekly, show pictures 
complete with engine information is second to none. It is a true joy to 
come to work on Monday morning knowing there will almost always be a new 
webpage waiting to be enjoyed by all. This morning's example is no 
exception. WOW what great photos and a few surprises too. How about the 
little Ducati general purpose engines. Is this the same Ducati as the 
bike maker? What a neat little engine!
The Alfa Laval lighting plant, what a neat piece!
I really enjoyed the steamer pulling the spectator cart with. And it 
looks like the steamer saved the day with the big Tangye.
Again, that you so much for your dedication and hard work so that we may 
all enjoy your shows world wide. We really do appreciate it!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC USA
>
> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>   



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon May 21 10:45:56 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:45:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>
References: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Patrick,

I really got a kick out of the tale of the Fowler traction engine rescuing
the stuck 10 hp Tangye!!  Great stuff!!  But one thing does have me
confused.  I thought you lot were in a decades long drought?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay073.html

See ya, Arnie

> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> Patrick M Livingstone



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon May 21 10:54:32 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:54:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <005b01c79b9e$cb17ef70$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<4651AA1F.6090108@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070521125055.04a3b1e8@mail.alltel.net>

Anyone who puts that size wheels under a 10hp Tangye deserved to STAY stuck 
in the mud!
         Dave
PS, LUCKY thing the bloke had good mates there!


At 12:45 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote:
>G'day Patrick,
>
>I really got a kick out of the tale of the Fowler traction engine rescuing
>the stuck 10 hp Tangye!!  Great stuff!!  But one thing does have me
>confused.  I thought you lot were in a decades long drought?
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay073.html
>
>See ya, Arnie
>
> > Some pics from the weekend:
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> > Patrick M Livingstone
>
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 21 13:54:18 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:54:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
Message-ID: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.  

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon May 21 14:14:09 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:14:09 EDT
Subject: [SEL] My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!
Message-ID: <bcf.1560da77.338365a1@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/20/2007 4:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes:

My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.

 
 
Same here!  We run the hay baler with my 6hp International M at our show 
every year.  Lever down to retard and start, lever up to run and she purrs like a 
kitten!
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From jdohagan at comcast.net  Mon May 21 14:14:21 2007
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:14:21 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
In-Reply-To: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <20070521211425.6316C4C305E@mx-in03.iad.mail-abuse.org>

Hi, Ron Thanks for the pictures of the Great show! Anton did Good! CYA,
Jimmy O'Hagan

Jim O'Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:54 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show

Hi all.
This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.  

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
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From pwaugh at mchsi.com  Mon May 21 15:03:12 2007
From: pwaugh at mchsi.com (Paul)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
In-Reply-To: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000501c79bf3$d329f910$6501a8c0@PaulNew>

GREAT!!  And looks like most people could camp next or close to their
displays .. was there much public touring??

Paul Waugh, got to get mine going!

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:54 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show

Hi all.
This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.  

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Mon May 21 16:08:50 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:08:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
In-Reply-To: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEMDFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Ron:

All's I can say is WOW!   And thanks for posting the pics.

Take care - Elden
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 03:54 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; 
> stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
> 
> 
> Hi all.
> This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold 
> engine show for
> California only engines was held in Bakersfield 
> CA.  More than 80 engines
> were displayed, several were the only examples 
> known to exist.  I have 85
> pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just 
> starting to be placed, so
> look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list 
> members displayed.  
> 
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=30093
> 70&a=32528406&f=
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon May 21 15:11:41 2007
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:11:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] patina on brass
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070520193030.04aa9340@mail.alltel.net>
References: <BAY144-F176F784BBC045ECD9101EB95320@phx.gbl>
	<519DBF03-7EFF-4614-8A0A-C3E9E64C5AD8@rustyiron.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070520193030.04aa9340@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <2f4782fdfff4c08e46b2386d6ae83e39@chartertn.net>


On May 20, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> NOT "brown" Rob, BRONZE!
>          Dave

Most of the "bronze beauties" I've seen on the beach actually looked 
brown.

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 21 15:43:19 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:43:19 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
Message-ID: <20070521.154320.1852.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Paul.  The public was not invited, private show for California engines
only.  Notice no ropes, no rules, just fun.  Can't wait for next year,
possibly North of Santa Cruz in the Redwoods.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:03:12 -0400 "Paul" <pwaugh at mchsi.com> writes:
> GREAT!!  And looks like most people could camp next or close to 
> their
> displays .. was there much public touring??
> 
> Paul Waugh, got to get mine going!


From b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au  Mon May 21 15:44:39 2007
From: b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au (B Erickson)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:44:39 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE (clearance sale)
Message-ID: <290413.7159.qm@web57513.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

  Vintage Engines FOR SALE
  (clearance sale)
   
  Buzacott Engines... Coopers Engines ....Moffat Virtue Engines ... International Engines... Onan Engines.... J.A.P. Engines... Wisconsin Engines... complete engines and some engines for spares
   
  SEE HERE FOR PHOTOS AND DETAILS
  http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines 
   
  b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au 

       
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Mon May 21 16:40:55 2007
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:40:55 EDT
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
Message-ID: <d3e.9a73c92.33838807@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/21/2007 2:00:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rdhaskell at juno.com writes:

This  past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
California  only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
were  displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have  85
pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed,  so
look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members  displayed.


Ron,
Thanks for sharing.  

Francis Maciel
Santa Maria,  Ca




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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 21 17:02:15 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:02:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show
References: <20070521.135418.1852.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00e201c79c04$76691970$240110ac@FAMILY>

WOW Ron, what a bunch of unique engines. It was a joy to look at them, 
thanks so much for taking them and posting them for all of us to see.

Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: [SEL] California Gold # 4 engine show


> Hi all.
> This past weekend the 4 th annual California Gold engine show for
> California only engines was held in Bakersfield CA.  More than 80 engines
> were displayed, several were the only examples known to exist.  I have 85
> pictures up on my Epson page, captions are just starting to be placed, so
> look now or later or both.  Enjoy.  Several list members displayed.
>
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32528406&f=
>
> Ron Haskell




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon May 21 19:26:22 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:26:22 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Spam/Phish> RE:  Cambelltown Rally
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705211343000.33834@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20070522022537.WNDS15903.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

If you want to break the drought hold a few engine rallies! There was heavy
rain across much of the state late last week. Not enough to break the
drought but enough to make the farmers smile a little and to fill all the
water tanks. 
Cambelltown is not too far from the coast so it tends to get enough rain
through the year. The downpours at the end of last week just made the ground
really, really soft.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

G'day Patrick,

I really got a kick out of the tale of the Fowler traction engine rescuing
the stuck 10 hp Tangye!!  Great stuff!!  But one thing does have me
confused.  I thought you lot were in a decades long drought?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay073.html

See ya, Arnie

> Some pics from the weekend:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Cammay071.html
> Patrick M Livingstone





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 21 20:20:34 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 23:20:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what engine is it?
Message-ID: <380-22007522232034384@M2W016.mail2web.com>

What engine is this ?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/stationary-engine_W0QQitemZ330122795657QQihZ014QQcate
goryZ31252QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Peter, Oz

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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 21 20:53:19 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 20:53:19 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold
Message-ID: <20070521.205319.1852.8.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.  Captions are as complete as I can get now, if you know of errors
or additional information it would be appreciated.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Mon May 21 21:57:49 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Odd Unidentified Engine
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20070521082508.02e958c0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <585867.1880.qm@web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark

Looks like one of the unknown engines that sold on Saturday at the auction
in North, VA.  I took a photo of it on Friday when I was looking the
engines over.  Auction report is currently being worked on.  Should be
done tomorrow....Photos will be posted then.

Steve
--- Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a clue as to what this little engine is? Fellow I know 
> just got it and asked me what it is but Its totally unfamiliar to me.   
> Mark
> 
> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/oddengine.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Mark & Christine Shulaw
> 454 Co. Rd. 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com
> 
> Home #419.358.5206
> Verizon Cell
> #419.516.2996 Mark
> #330.475.4450 Christine 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From kimmell at verizon.net  Mon May 21 17:20:07 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:20:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engine s.com>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads>
	<004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew>
	<3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com>
	<1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>

Okay... guess I won't be using FireFox to proof my website's 
anymore.  When you view the code on FireFox, it FIXES the mistakes in 
the HTML for you!  I had to go back into my original .txt file to 
find and fix that /title tag and re-upload it.

Although I DID start using FireFox because it was way better than 
IE... guess it's just TOO good.

Anyway... all you guys on IE try it again and let me know if it works 
now.  Crikey...

--
Tony Kimmell
Bloomington, IL



From peter at loud-n-clear.net  Mon May 21 23:05:26 2007
From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:05:26 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
In-Reply-To: <0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads><004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew><3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com><1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <029e01c79c37$32004000$8335c53e@doc>

Hi Tony

Working for me now - IE6.  Good-looking daughter you have :-)

Regards

     Pete
-- 
Peter Scales  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> Tony & Jackie
> Sent: 22 May 2007 01:20
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
> 
> Okay... guess I won't be using FireFox to proof my website's 
> anymore.  When you view the code on FireFox, it FIXES the mistakes in 
> the HTML for you!  I had to go back into my original .txt file to 
> find and fix that /title tag and re-upload it.
> 
> Although I DID start using FireFox because it was way better than 
> IE... guess it's just TOO good.
> 
> Anyway... all you guys on IE try it again and let me know if it works 
> now.  Crikey...
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue May 22 00:08:57 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:08:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site
References: <000a01c79b36$d9c0d0e0$0302a8c0@Dads><004701c79b3e$330b88a0$6501a8c0@PaulNew><3bd33b2e0705210131m767bdaebsbcc748248b8ce13@mail.gmail.com><1393.165.206.180.53.1179748761.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
	<0JIF003382AH2PEE@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <033b01c79c40$125f6470$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Ya might like to add your site to your signature?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tony Kimmell's web site


> Okay... guess I won't be using FireFox to proof my website's 
> anymore.  When you view the code on FireFox, it FIXES the mistakes in 
> the HTML for you!  I had to go back into my original .txt file to 
> find and fix that /title tag and re-upload it.
> 
> Although I DID start using FireFox because it was way better than 
> IE... guess it's just TOO good.
> 
> Anyway... all you guys on IE try it again and let me know if it works 
> now.  Crikey...
> 
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From ozhornsby at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 03:34:20 2007
From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
Message-ID: <773061.16520.qm@web35410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

G'Day B Erickson

Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
interesting"
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
 
you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
don't come as you have had a theft while not home.

It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
total pages stolen from my web site, the following
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
 has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
can use my Photos if credit is given.
also
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
MY PAGES including photos Immediately
I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
on that.
Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
don't understand stealing unless it is from you

Original pages can be found as part of
http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/

Kerry Morris
Lithgow NSW OZ

PS. This topic has been around before with other
peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
Rant Over.




       
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From astfgl at iamnota.org  Tue May 22 03:38:32 2007
From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:38:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
Message-ID: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>

Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.

Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
hopper with a fair amount of rust.

There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.

Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
0.840".

I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
than what I have here.

Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.

Thanks, glen.
(Townsville, Australia)


From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Tue May 22 04:12:52 2007
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:12:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <4652D034.1060104@steamengine.com.au>

Google failed you because you searched for Buzacott - if you searched 
for Rosebery you would have found my pages :)

The Buzacott is a Rosebery in disguise.

The plug you want is Champion 25 18mm tapered "copper plus" marine 
engine plug - they fit reasonably well. The thread isn't exact but it 
works. You can still get the right plug from a specialist supplier (at 
an engine show generally - go find Rally Badges or someone like that).

Regards
Paul

Glen Harris wrote:
> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.
>
> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
>
> There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
> condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.
>
> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
> 0.840".
>
> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
> than what I have here.
>
> Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.
>
> Thanks, glen.
> (Townsville, Australia)
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>   



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 04:21:41 2007
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 04:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello, Glen,
   
  Welcome to the SEL.
   
  What you seem to have there are a couple old plugs that are 1/2" pipe thread.
  Not 1/2" in size.  Big difference there.  8>))
  I am not sure where you can get replacements in Austrailia.
  Probably most any auto parts store. Just carry one in and look for someone that has been there a while.
   
  I buy mine from here.
  http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm
   
  Usually I just buy the AUTOLITE SPARKPLUG 1/2"NPT #3095 --$2.99 each
   
  I do have several of these plugs also found on that page.
  $25.95--- X----Authentic old style package and construction 1/2"NPT 
take apart two piece plug(black finish and brass top hat)
   
  The take-apart plugs are great. Just open them up to clean them.
  

  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
  

   
  

Glen Harris <astfgl at iamnota.org> wrote:
  Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.

Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
hopper with a fair amount of rust.

There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.

Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
0.840".

I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
than what I have here.

Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.

Thanks, glen.
(Townsville, Australia)
 
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue May 22 05:31:43 2007
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:31:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAENAFMAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Glen:

Welcome to the list!

I think you've got a common (for it's time) "Model T" spark plug - after the car which used them.

The thread is standard one-half inch pipe thread.

It's available new from at least two manufacturers, Champion and Autolite.  In the U.S. they can be gotten (usually on order) from major auto parts stores.

As a side note.......Most of these engines don't care what brand or heat range of plug they have as long as it's good enough to produce a spark under compression.  Just stick a good plug in it and you'll be fine.

Take care - Elden DuRand
edurand at mchsi.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Glen Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 05:39 AM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
> 
> 
> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I 
> apologize if my 
> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and 
> Google has failed me.
> 
> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP 
> engines. His is an 
> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, 
> while mine has a 
> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
> 
> There's a long way to go before either is 
> anywhere near running 
> condition, but one thing we have both done is 
> take the spark plugs out 
> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty 
> ones for him.
> 
> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 
> 0.805" to 0.840" major 
> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison 
> Albanitum 14-S and mine 
> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I 
> can find is NPT 14tpi 
> 0.840".
> 
> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at 
> all, and the A-25 is 
> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line 
> references, which is way smaller 
> than what I have here.
> 
> Can some bright spark please shed some light on 
> these plugs.
> 
> Thanks, glen.
> (Townsville, Australia)




From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Tue May 22 04:53:56 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 23:53:56 +1200
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
	<269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c79c67$e13d6450$0301a8c0@tamatea1>

Alan thats a good suggestion if its old spark plug you are wanting apart
from your local auto dealers is there any vintage car clubs over here there
are boxs full of old split type spark plugs at the local vintage car club
could be worth a look.I love looking through all the old vintage gear there
are old stationary moters as well sometimes brent nz 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bowen
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 11:22 p.m.
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member

Hello, Glen,
   
  Welcome to the SEL.
   
  What you seem to have there are a couple old plugs that are 1/2" pipe
thread.
  Not 1/2" in size.  Big difference there.  8>))
  I am not sure where you can get replacements in Austrailia.
  Probably most any auto parts store. Just carry one in and look for someone
that has been there a while.
   
  I buy mine from here.
  http://royalcrossfarm.com/essentials.htm
   
  Usually I just buy the AUTOLITE SPARKPLUG 1/2"NPT #3095 --$2.99 each
   
  I do have several of these plugs also found on that page.
  $25.95--- X----Authentic old style package and construction 1/2"NPT 
take apart two piece plug(black finish and brass top hat)
   
  The take-apart plugs are great. Just open them up to clean them.
  

  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
  

   
  

Glen Harris <astfgl at iamnota.org> wrote:
  Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my 
question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.

Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an 
external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a 
hopper with a fair amount of rust.

There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running 
condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out 
and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.

Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major 
diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine 
is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi 
0.840".

I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is 
mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller 
than what I have here.

Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.

Thanks, glen.
(Townsville, Australia)
 
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From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Tue May 22 05:05:44 2007
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:05:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <269984.42027.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4652DC98.1070007@steamengine.com.au>

Hi Alan, unless you find someone with some new-old-stock you aren't very 
likely to find this plug at an autodealer.

The Rosebery/Buzacott also have a tapered thread - it isn't pipe thread. 
The Champion 25 W18 and the Champion 525 Copper Marine Plug are good 
choices.

I use the 525 as they never seem to die.

Both will cost you about AU$20 ea.

Regards
Paul

Alan Bowen wrote:
>   What you seem to have there are a couple old plugs that are 1/2" pipe thread.
>   Not 1/2" in size.  Big difference there.  8>))
>   I am not sure where you can get replacements in Austrailia.
>   Probably most any auto parts store. Just carry one in and look for someone that has been there a while.
>    
>  



From brock at netspeed.com.au  Tue May 22 05:48:03 2007
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (brock at netspeed.com.au)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:48:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
Message-ID: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>

G,day Kerry  
I found something else that i knew i  have seen else where
check link 
http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint208.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: Kerry Morris <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)

> G'Day B Erickson
> 
> Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
> interesting"
> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
>  
> you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
> don't come as you have had a theft while not home.
> 
> It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
> total pages stolen from my web site, the following
>
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
>  has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
> Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
> can use my Photos if credit is given.
> also
>
http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
> you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
> my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
> the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
> As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
> your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
> MY PAGES including photos Immediately
> I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
> Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
> on that.
> Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
> don't understand stealing unless it is from you
> 
> Original pages can be found as part of
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
> 
> Kerry Morris
> Lithgow NSW OZ
> 
> PS. This topic has been around before with other
> peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
> ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
> lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
> Rant Over.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>        
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May 22 06:56:22 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 23:56:22 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi Tony
Just a thought, your photos are way too large a file size for those on 
dialup, they are just under 1Mb each, they need to be 1/10th that size

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm





> Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
> get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>
>
> --
> Tony Kimmell
> Bloomington, IL
>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue May 22 07:07:17 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 00:07:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] R&V ignitor wanted ASAP
Message-ID: <005301c79c7a$81c4f3e0$0601a8c0@altech>

Hi all
Who would make ignitors for the SR 2hp series R&V engines in the USA.

I have a register member who needs an ignitor ASAP so he can get his engine 
ready for the Aussie National Rally.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
Ph: 61-266453455
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm



From andyglines at hotmail.com  Tue May 22 07:15:02 2007
From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:15:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Good Work night!
Message-ID: <BAY141-F13AF9DD86485A52CF416E6C7360@phx.gbl>

We had a big work night at the SIAM club.  Many of you know that we have 
been working on a permanent foundation for our Venn Severin diesel engine 
for about 3 years.  The foundation was poured last winter and last night a 
volunteer loader and operator appeared to move the engine from its trailer 
to the new foundation.  You have to be extra careful when handling 12,000 lb 
of old iron.  We had a great crew and there were ni big problems.  While the 
installation will not be complete, we hope to run the engine at the Classic 
Iron show in Evansville, IN on June 8-10.

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May 22 07:58:34 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:58:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
Message-ID: <20070522.105858.912.3.jlb94@juno.com>

Thanks for mentioning that Pete,

I found out early in the game to reduce the size of my pictures when
posting them on a web site.

I usually resize mine to 500 x 700.  This way they still get posted
rather fast with "dial-up".

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue May 22 08:40:30 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:40:30 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
References: <891F10D2-CA44-4A91-A4F0-E5FDDF41BDA2@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <348117D8-33C1-44EC-A1FF-2D4E630FAC31@rustyiron.com>


Hello b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au,

It has come to my attention that you have created a web page from  
material that was stolen from my web page.  Your entire section on  
Ronaldson & Tippett is copyrighted intellectual property owned by  
me.  I demand that you remove everything  immediately.

My tolerance of theft is small.  I understand that this might have  
been an inadvertent mistake on your part, so I am willing to offer  
you a limited license to use my work on your MSN web page.

If you wish to license my work, the cost will be $250 US per image  
per year and $250 US per year for the text.  I can offer a discount  
if you wish to enter into a multi-year licensing agreement.

Before I can agree on licensing, the current web page must be removed  
immediately.

Rob Skinner
La Habra, California
www.rustyiron.com




From bill at antique-engines.com  Tue May 22 13:37:19 2007
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 13:37:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
In-Reply-To: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>
References: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>
Message-ID: <2653.165.206.180.53.1179866239.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Right-click on some of the images, he's actually hijacking the bandwidth
by linking to the photos where they sit.
Not very kind! That could throw some folks over their bandwidth threshold.

I went to "his" tractor page and did a few right-clicks/properties and
came up with the likes of:

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/a208_2.jpg

At least if you're gonna steal, move it to your own server and take all of
it.

The engines for sale........ clear titles, correct?


Bill
*urls with-held! for fear of bandwidth hi-jacking*


> G,day Kerry
> I found something else that i knew i  have seen else where
> check link
> http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint208.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kerry Morris <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>> G'Day B Erickson
>>
>> Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
>> interesting"
>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
>>
>> you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
>> don't come as you have had a theft while not home.
>>
>> It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
>> total pages stolen from my web site, the following
>>
> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
>>  has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
>> Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
>> can use my Photos if credit is given.
>> also
>>
> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
>> you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
>> my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
>> the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
>> As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
>> your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
>> MY PAGES including photos Immediately
>> I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
>> Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
>> on that.
>> Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
>> don't understand stealing unless it is from you
>>
>> Original pages can be found as part of
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>>
>> Kerry Morris
>> Lithgow NSW OZ
>>
>> PS. This topic has been around before with other
>> peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
>> ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
>> lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
>> Rant Over.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>> __________________________Take the Internet to Go:
>> Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news,
>> photos & more.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From astfgl at iamnota.org  Tue May 22 14:21:46 2007
From: astfgl at iamnota.org (Glen Harris)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 07:21:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
In-Reply-To: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <46535EEA.7030500@iamnota.org>

Wow, what a response! Thanks everyone, all that info's really been a 
great help to us both. With the options you've given us, we should have 
no problems. BTW, my plug is a separable type, I'll have a go a pulling 
it apart tonight.

Cheers, glen.


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue May 22 15:45:05 2007
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 06:45:05 +0800
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
Message-ID: <000e01c79cc2$dbc137d0$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>

Glen ,either make or get some to do it for you, an adaptor to screw into 
your 18 mm plug hole.It is then tapped to take 14 mm. The latter size plugs 
you will get for no cost at your local tune up centre....they throw them out 
.As some one said these old engines will run on just about any plug.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Harris" <astfgl at iamnota.org>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member


> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my
> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.
>
> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an
> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a
> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
>
> There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running
> condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out
> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.
>
> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major
> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine
> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi
> 0.840".
>
> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is
> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller
> than what I have here.
>
> Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.
>
> Thanks, glen.
> (Townsville, Australia)
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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue May 22 20:30:15 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:30:15 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
Message-ID: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007





From wayne at lorenssanitation.com  Tue May 22 21:00:38 2007
From: wayne at lorenssanitation.com (Wayne Thackery)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:00:38 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
References: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c79cee$ee5adc30$020ba8c0@Waynexp>

Greetings Rob,

Thanks for the pictures and sorry I didn't make it this year. Seen some
familiar faces from back East showed up. Looks like you had a great turn out
and some awesome engines came out of hiding. Anton has a great collection
all by himself!

Wayne A Thackery
Keizer, Oregon 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 PM
To: SEL ATIS; Oldengine.org Engine; WAPA-Members
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007



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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue May 22 21:17:11 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:17:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <000d01c79cee$ee5adc30$020ba8c0@Waynexp>
References: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
	<000d01c79cee$ee5adc30$020ba8c0@Waynexp>
Message-ID: <9AF582F8-06DC-4D53-A5A9-696ADB6E7756@rustyiron.com>

> Thanks for the pictures and sorry I didn't make it this year.

Hi Wayne,
Sorry we didn't get to see you this time, but I understand how it's  
not possible to attend EVERY event... or if it is, I haven't yet  
figured out the secret.

Rob





From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Tue May 22 21:28:01 2007
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 00:28:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever
References: <mailman.3.1179849602.8272.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <004901c79cf2$c01d1aa0$0201a8c0@b21a5>

In my thread "My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!"

rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes:
>My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.
Germoamer at aol.com
>Same here!  We run the hay baler with my 6hp International M at our show
>every year.  Lever down to retard and start, lever up to run and she purrs
like a
>kitten!

Well, it looks like it's supposed to work then!

Any ideas why my advance lever doesn't work properly?  I have a Wico Type
No. 2 drive.  I can get everything *precisely* set- exhaust open & close
just right, run (advanced) timing=exactly 30 degrees per factory manual, but
when I flip the lever to retard it, I would expect it to go from the 30
degrees BTDC to zero (TDC).  Instead, the lever changes the timing about 90
degrees- it changes from 30 deg Before TDC to 60 degrees AFTER TDC.

Maybe this is related- I have also noticed that adjusting the push
rod/finger length a very small amount seemed to have a pretty big effect on
timing.  It was tricky to get the timing set just right.  I had to nudge the
adjustment/length literally a hair at a time.

Is it a combination of magnet strength, drive spring strength, return spring
strength, rocker arm wear, or latch-off adjusting screw that I'll never be
able to figure out?  I'm content to run the engine as-is, without using the
lever, but it is quite puzzling now that others have spoken up that their
lever works fine.

Thanks!
-Rick





From oiseming at moscow.com  Tue May 22 21:37:37 2007
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:37:37 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <200705230437.l4N4bklW055103@mail-gw.fsr.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 PM
To: SEL ATIS; Oldengine.org Engine; WAPA-Members
Subject: California Gold Engine Exposition

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007

~~~~~~~~~

Wow, Rob, you were not exaggerating!  What an assembly of rare engines!  I
wonder if there's ever been anything like it before.  Is this a regular
event?

Thank you for posting the pix.  They were a treat to see.

Best regards, 

Orrin





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May 23 00:30:48 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:30:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever
References: <mailman.3.1179849602.8272.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<004901c79cf2$c01d1aa0$0201a8c0@b21a5>
Message-ID: <006201c79d0c$4a233c20$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

For what its worth, I have had odd things with the linkage setups over the 
years.
You really have to look closely to see what is happening.
That reason it aing working right can be hard to see.
First up, ya have to realise what 'Should' occur. Then you go looking for 
why it dont! And, when ya find it!!  "Why didn't I SEE that??
Been there, dun that!!
I really think this is an important part of the lure of old engines.
I BEAT it!!! VBG
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick I." <rdi at rochester.rr.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever


> In my thread "My Taylor Vacuum Engine LIVES!!"
>
> rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes:
>>My experience says The Wico Retard/Advance Lever Works Great.
> Germoamer at aol.com
>>Same here!  We run the hay baler with my 6hp International M at our show
>>every year.  Lever down to retard and start, lever up to run and she purrs
> like a
>>kitten!
>
> Well, it looks like it's supposed to work then!
>
> Any ideas why my advance lever doesn't work properly?  I have a Wico Type
> No. 2 drive.  I can get everything *precisely* set- exhaust open & close
> just right, run (advanced) timing=exactly 30 degrees per factory manual, 
> but
> when I flip the lever to retard it, I would expect it to go from the 30
> degrees BTDC to zero (TDC).  Instead, the lever changes the timing about 
> 90
> degrees- it changes from 30 deg Before TDC to 60 degrees AFTER TDC.
>
> Maybe this is related- I have also noticed that adjusting the push
> rod/finger length a very small amount seemed to have a pretty big effect 
> on
> timing.  It was tricky to get the timing set just right.  I had to nudge 
> the
> adjustment/length literally a hair at a time.
>
> Is it a combination of magnet strength, drive spring strength, return 
> spring
> strength, rocker arm wear, or latch-off adjusting screw that I'll never be
> able to figure out?  I'm content to run the engine as-is, without using 
> the
> lever, but it is quite puzzling now that others have spoken up that their
> lever works fine.
>
> Thanks!
> -Rick
>
>
>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed May 23 03:00:05 2007
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:00:05 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
References: <4652e683.3a.46a2.45420069@netspeed.com.au>
	<2653.165.206.180.53.1179866239.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c79d21$23cc6d70$0601a8c0@altech>

If he is non compliant, each site owner could place a stop thief page in 
place of their actual page for a for a few weeks.

Peter, Oz





> Right-click on some of the images, he's actually hijacking the bandwidth
> by linking to the photos where they sit.
> Not very kind! That could throw some folks over their bandwidth threshold.
>
> I went to "his" tractor page and did a few right-clicks/properties and
> came up with the likes of:
>
> http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/a208_2.jpg
>
> At least if you're gonna steal, move it to your own server and take all of
> it.
>
> The engines for sale........ clear titles, correct?
>
>
> Bill
> *urls with-held! for fear of bandwidth hi-jacking*
>
>
>> G,day Kerry
>> I found something else that i knew i  have seen else where
>> check link
>> http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint208.htm
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kerry Morris <ozhornsby at yahoo.com>
>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
>> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:34:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>> G'Day B Erickson
>>>
>>> Checked out your site you posted to SEL "very
>>> interesting"
>>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines
>>>
>>> you say that you live between Canberra and Sydney but
>>> don't come as you have had a theft while not home.
>>>
>>> It looks as you know a lot about theft as I see two
>>> total pages stolen from my web site, the following
>>>
>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/buzacottinfo.msnw
>>>  has been totally lifted from my Australian Engine
>>> Manufactures pages which I clearly state that others
>>> can use my Photos if credit is given.
>>> also
>>>
>> http://groups.msn.com/VintageClassicalEngines/moffatvirtueinfo.msnw
>>> you say it is Moffat Virtue Info but you have lifted
>>> my total page off my own Australian Engines not just
>>> the photos but the WHOLE PAGE.
>>> As you never asked nor give credit to my site, and
>>> your site is there for your profit YOU ARE TO REMOVE
>>> MY PAGES including photos Immediately
>>> I could be wrong but you seemed to have also lifted
>>> Rob Skinners page on Australs, I will let him comment
>>> on that.
>>> Cannot remember if I have met you "B" but you clearly
>>> don't understand stealing unless it is from you
>>>
>>> Original pages can be found as part of
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>>>
>>> Kerry Morris
>>> Lithgow NSW OZ
>>>
>>> PS. This topic has been around before with other
>>> peoples photos, Anyone can use any of my photos if you
>>> ask or give credit it pisses me off that someone can
>>> lift two total pages to back up his For Sale Site.
>>> Rant Over.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>> __________________________Take the Internet to Go:
>>> Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news,
>>> photos & more.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> _______________________________________________
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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Wed May 23 03:13:46 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 18:13:46 +0800
Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
References: <4652C828.9060308@iamnota.org>
	<000e01c79cc2$dbc137d0$0201a8c0@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <007d01c79d23$0c8e7f70$f301a8c0@armstrong>

    There is a 7/8"  UNS (UN SPECIAL) threaded plug it is not a tapered 
thread but is one that is fitted to my "Engine" which is a copy of a Fuller 
and Jjohnson. and some one fitted a tapered plug stuffing up the thread.


Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member


> Glen ,either make or get some to do it for you, an adaptor to screw into
> your 18 mm plug hole.It is then tapped to take 14 mm. The latter size 
> plugs
> you will get for no cost at your local tune up centre....they throw them 
> out
> .As some one said these old engines will run on just about any plug.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Harris" <astfgl at iamnota.org>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:38 PM
> Subject: [SEL] A spark plug question from a new member
>
>
>> Hi, all. This is my first post to the list, and I apologize if my
>> question is obvious, but I'm totally confused and Google has failed me.
>>
>> Both my father and I have new (old) Buzacott 3HP engines. His is an
>> external tank model in somewhat sparse condition, while mine has a
>> hopper with a fair amount of rust.
>>
>> There's a long way to go before either is anywhere near running
>> condition, but one thing we have both done is take the spark plugs out
>> and tried to find spares for me and non-rusty ones for him.
>>
>> Both plugs have a taper thread, and mine measures 0.805" to 0.840" major
>> diameter at 14tpi. Dad's plug is marked Edison Albanitum 14-S and mine
>> is a Champion A-25. The closest matching thread I can find is NPT 14tpi
>> 0.840".
>>
>> I can't find any reference to the Edison plus at all, and the A-25 is
>> mentioned to be 1/2" in several on-line references, which is way smaller
>> than what I have here.
>>
>> Can some bright spark please shed some light on these plugs.
>>
>> Thanks, glen.
>> (Townsville, Australia)
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed May 23 06:51:39 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:51:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during 
the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.) 
August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40 
Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on 
Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north end 
of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for items 
to donate to the auction!
	Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again 
this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said 
that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner. 
She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' ") 
would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said 
that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
	I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time 
neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I 
can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net 
Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
	Dave
PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can 
count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!



From ottawa at pa.net  Wed May 23 07:44:11 2007
From: ottawa at pa.net (George/Helen Myers)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:44:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Sumptner #14(IMP) Pix Request
Message-ID: <003c01c79d48$d40ff450$0201a8c0@HONDESKTOP>

If anyone owns a Sumpter #14(IMP) Magneto, we would appreciate a picture of it.  Also the base  & the bolt hole pattern dimensions.  Additionally, we need the overall height and distance from center of magneto shaft to the bottom of the base.

Would really appreciate receiving this information.  Thanks a bunch!

George L. & Helen S. Myers
RR 1,  Box 2032
Blain, PA  17006
The Ottawa Caretakers   ottawa at pa.net
Tel 717-536-3711
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=1751540



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed May 23 11:08:56 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:08:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <E4F8267D-A8DF-4C6C-B7DC-37720D317383@rustyiron.com>
References: <20070523.081810.2132.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>
	<E4F8267D-A8DF-4C6C-B7DC-37720D317383@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705231406130.53416@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Rob,  You forgot to mention his CUTE assistant!!  8->>
http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007/116.jpg

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, 23 May 2007, Rob Skinner wrote:

> Before continuing, I'll elaborate a little for those who don't know.
> Danny is the son of one of the engine guys and has produced some very
> good engine show videos.  He has fancy cameras, fancy computers,
> fancy wires, and he knows how to use them.
>
> Contact Danny Panzone at
> sourcemedia at mac.com
> or call 951-354-2835



From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Wed May 23 07:20:38 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:20:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c79d45$8aa19ce0$0ab5123f@D8LJ7K91>

Yes, Dave, I will run the auction again, but that job is always up for grabs 
if anyone else wants to do it.

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007


> Hi All,
> The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during
> the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.)
> August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40
> Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on
> Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north 
> end
> of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for 
> items
> to donate to the auction!
> Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again
> this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said
> that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner.
> She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' 
> ")
> would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said
> that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
> I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time
> neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I
> can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net
> Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
> Dave
> PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can
> count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed May 23 13:51:38 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:51:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
In-Reply-To: <002d01c79d45$8aa19ce0$0ab5123f@D8LJ7K91>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>
	<002d01c79d45$8aa19ce0$0ab5123f@D8LJ7K91>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523155122.01bf2588@mail.alltel.net>

Thanks Glenn!
         Dave

At 09:20 AM 5/23/2007, you wrote:
>Yes, Dave, I will run the auction again, but that job is always up for grabs
>if anyone else wants to do it.
>
>Glenn Karch
>Hercules Historian
>Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:51 AM
>Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during
> > the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.)
> > August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40
> > Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on
> > Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north
> > end
> > of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for
> > items
> > to donate to the auction!
> > Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again
> > this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said
> > that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner.
> > She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie'
> > ")
> > would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said
> > that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
> > I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time
> > neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I
> > can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net
> > Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
> > Dave
> > PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can
> > count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May 23 15:31:12 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:31:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20070523085125.01c91d28@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <00ca01c79d8a$1c412eb0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Aw! Ya sure know how to make a bloke hurt!
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007


> Hi All,
> The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during
> the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.)
> August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40
> Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on
> Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north 
> end
> of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for 
> items
> to donate to the auction!
> Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again
> this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said
> that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner.
> She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' 
> ")
> would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said
> that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
> I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time
> neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I
> can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net
> Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
> Dave
> PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can
> count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed May 23 16:01:59 2007
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:01:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE
References: <891F10D2-CA44-4A91-A4F0-E5FDDF41BDA2@rustyiron.com>
	<348117D8-33C1-44EC-A1FF-2D4E630FAC31@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <013801c79d8e$d6aac0a0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Did you get a reply?
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rskinner at rustyiron.com>
To: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:40 AM
Subject: [SEL] Vintage Engines FOR SALE


> 
> Hello b_erickson_act at yahoo.com.au,
> 
> It has come to my attention that you have created a web page from  
> material that was stolen from my web page.  Your entire section on  
> Ronaldson & Tippett is copyrighted intellectual property owned by  
> me.  I demand that you remove everything  immediately.
> 
> My tolerance of theft is small.  I understand that this might have  
> been an inadvertent mistake on your part, so I am willing to offer  
> you a limited license to use my work on your MSN web page.
> 
> If you wish to license my work, the cost will be $250 US per image  
> per year and $250 US per year for the text.  I can offer a discount  
> if you wish to enter into a multi-year licensing agreement.
> 
> Before I can agree on licensing, the current web page must be removed  
> immediately.
> 
> Rob Skinner
> La Habra, California
> www.rustyiron.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed May 23 17:27:04 2007
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:27:04 EDT
Subject: [SEL] That Wico Advance Lever
Message-ID: <d39.9d2b3c1.338635d8@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/23/2007 12:35:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rdi at rochester.rr.com writes:

I'm content to run the engine as-is, without using the
lever, but it is quite puzzling now that others have spoken up that their
lever works fine.

 
 
Starbolt/Hit&Miss sell a Wico book on troubleshooting/adjusting them that may 
be of use to you.  The trip/return springs play a big part in the adjustments 
as do all the other things.
 
 
Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va.
Germoamer at aol.com



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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu May 24 07:29:34 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:29:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hiya Folks,

Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.

This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a new
grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))

This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying restored
ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
"collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.

What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift for
the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
Blade.  This web site has some info.  http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/

Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com




From gjohnson at ndii.com  Thu May 24 07:52:22 2007
From: gjohnson at ndii.com (Johnson, Greg)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:52:22 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <7A40C625-B6F3-47CB-9E01-46C7DB3C477F@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC88690149F027@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz>

The photos are wonderful Rob,
I could not open the attachment that you sent that contained your phone
numbers.  I looked at the Cal Gold photos and found everything correct
except for the owner of the horizontal Reagan.  It is owned by Greg
Prokopchuk.  Anton's Reagan is at Coolspring now on loan.
We leave for Nuenen tomorrow.  Hope I live through the show and the
Belgium trappist beer!
Take care
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Skinner
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 PM
To: SEL ATIS; Oldengine.org Engine; WAPA-Members
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition

This was truly an event to knock your socks off.

Collectors from across the country came to see a magnificent display  
of heart-breakingly rare engines, meet with other collectors and have  
a good time.  Words can not describe it.  I'll attempt to do so with  
a few pictures.  Hope you like 'em.

http://engines.rustyiron.com/affentranger2007



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From jlb94 at juno.com  Thu May 24 08:50:33 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:50:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
Message-ID: <20070524.115509.880.3.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Arnie,

Not sure what you have but - 
My kid's looking for a lawn tractor to cut his grass.

He lives on a pretty hilly lot and has an extra lot beside that he cuts.

There is a "White" riding mower in my back yard he got for FREE.
It has the wrong motor and the pulleys don't line up.
He got it running and now he's talking about welding a pulley to the
motor shaft.
Not a good idea but necessity is the mother of invention.
I think he's a bit disgusted with it.

He did bring up the idea of buying one next year.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Thu May 24 09:13:51 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:13:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold Engine Exposition
In-Reply-To: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC88690149F027@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz>
References: <4C3AC52FFF036E4489FF7CF48DAC88690149F027@US-EX-MB080.NMCorp.Nissan.Biz>
Message-ID: <AE62635C-90FD-40D4-B7B5-548BACCAFE59@rustyiron.com>


On May 24, 2007, at 7:52 AM, Johnson, Greg wrote:

> The photos are wonderful Rob,
> I could not open the attachment that you sent that contained your  
> phone
> numbers.  I looked at the Cal Gold photos and found everything correct
> except for the owner of the horizontal Reagan.  It is owned by Greg
> Prokopchuk.  Anton's Reagan is at Coolspring now on loan.
> We leave for Nuenen tomorrow.  Hope I live through the show and the
> Belgium trappist beer!
> Take care
> Greg

Dooooood... Trappist beer from the source... my keyboard is shorting  
out from excess drool.  Thanks for setting me straight on Greg's  
Reagan.  Give your lovely bride a big hug from me, and have a great  
time in Europe.

Rob




From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Thu May 24 09:57:54 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:57:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Arnie's Cadet
Message-ID: <BAY127-F4323FC9569728D7C1E39BCB340@phx.gbl>

>>>This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
worth.

>>>Arnie

Well, if it were to be auctioned off, that would get you the answer...

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway

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From kimmell at verizon.net  Tue May 22 18:08:08 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:08:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
In-Reply-To: <004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
Message-ID: <0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Yeah I know... been busy with work and other stuff this last 
week.  Barely had time to pull my hair out figuring out that stupid 
HTML mistake of mine.

My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size 
on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll 
have to find a good image resizing program.

--
Tony


At 08:56 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote:
>Hi Tony
>Just a thought, your photos are way too large a file size for those on
>dialup, they are just under 1Mb each, they need to be 1/10th that size
>
>Regards
>Peter Lowe
>R&V Engine Registrar
>Australia
>Ph: 61-266453455
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> > Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
> > get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
> >
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tony Kimmell
> > Bloomington, IL
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From garyepps at fidnet.com  Thu May 24 11:26:27 2007
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:26:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net><0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net><004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <003501c79e31$0bedabe0$6b83fb40@HP28276676518>

Tony, you might want to look at Picasa, it is a free Google program.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony & Jackie" <kimmell at verizon.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures


> Yeah I know... been busy with work and other stuff this last
> week.  Barely had time to pull my hair out figuring out that stupid
> HTML mistake of mine.
>
> My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size
> on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll
> have to find a good image resizing program.
>
> --
> Tony
>
>
> At 08:56 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Tony
>>Just a thought, your photos are way too large a file size for those on
>>dialup, they are just under 1Mb each, they need to be 1/10th that size
>>
>>Regards
>>Peter Lowe
>>R&V Engine Registrar
>>Australia
>>Ph: 61-266453455
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Pics are up, and my "antique" web site is now gone!  Finally I can
>> > get rid of those horrid pictures of me!
>> >
>> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tony Kimmell
>> > Bloomington, IL
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> >
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> -- 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu May 24 12:21:55 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:21:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>

Tony,

You NEED Irfanview.  Best damn FREE tool for the job.
http://www.irfanview.com/

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 22 May 2007, Tony & Jackie wrote:

> My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size
> on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll
> have to find a good image resizing program.



From falcon at telenet.net  Thu May 24 11:59:31 2007
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:59:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <4655E093.7030901@telenet.net>

Arnie, a 782 with what you have and in good shape should sell for around 
$2000.00. If you really want to sell it come on over to the IH Registry 
  at http://ihregistry.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi
Toss a few pics up there with it and they can tell you what it is worth 
and probably it will sell QUICK. There is also a for sale area there as 
well.


Arnie Fero wrote:
> Hiya Folks,
> 
> Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.
> 
> This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a new
> grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
> tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
> has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))
> 
> This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
> tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
> worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying restored
> ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
> "collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.
> 
> What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
> Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
> hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift for
> the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
> weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
> International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
> Blade.  This web site has some info.  http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/
> 
> Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price would
> be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
NRA Member
Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.


From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Thu May 24 12:57:44 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:57:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <69959.55227.qm@web82013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Arnie

I second your recommendation...I use irfanview to resize 99.9% of the
photos on my site.  It is great for the shows...Just upload to a folder on
my computer...Open one of the pics in irfanview, select batch
resize/rename option.  This process also allows me to copyright tag each
photo at a set location (I can choose where based on pixel location).  and
then let it crank away thru all of the photos.

I now take all photos at the highest res and resize/resample down for
theweb.  I keep the full size photos for further use if needed.  If making
a print, I use the full size photo...

Steve
--- Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:

> Tony,
> 
> You NEED Irfanview.  Best damn FREE tool for the job.
> http://www.irfanview.com/
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> On Tue, 22 May 2007, Tony & Jackie wrote:
> 
> > My old digital camera would size the pics down to a manageable size
> > on the lowest quality setting.  This new one doesn't do that.  I'll
> > have to find a good image resizing program.



From BillMil357 at aol.com  Thu May 24 18:17:44 2007
From: BillMil357 at aol.com (BillMil357 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:17:44 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
Message-ID: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>

Hi Steve,
 
Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints? Steve I 
hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well as 
Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker  family, 
and others on the List.
 
See'ya, Bill Miller. 



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Thu May 24 18:23:38 2007
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:23:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
References: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241002410.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c79e6b$535a61f0$10ef4c0c@D48VHZ61>

Don't keep up with the values but I can tell you what you have is one of the 
last "real" Cadets. The 6 and 782's got respect from the dealers. They were 
built about the time Cadet was spun off to MTD. Their weak link was the 
engine. Definetly a fine piece of equipment, as I'm sure you know!

John Hall

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?


> Hiya Folks,
>
> Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.
>
> This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a new
> grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
> tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
> has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))
>
> This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
> tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what it's
> worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying restored
> ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
> "collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.
>
> What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
> Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
> hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift for
> the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
> weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
> International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
> Blade.  This web site has some info.  http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/
>
> Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price would
> be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu May 24 18:56:18 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 20:56:18 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>


>  Steve I
>hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well as
>Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker  family,
>See'ya, Bill Miller.

Hi Bill,
         I'll be there. So will the Hollands, Glenn, Keith and perhaps the 
Webres.
                 Dave 



From glenn.karch at verizon.net  Thu May 24 19:14:23 2007
From: glenn.karch at verizon.net (Glenn Karch)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:14:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SIAM show
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002101c79e72$6ae1ed00$a0ec123f@D8LJ7K91>

Bill and others,

Speaking of the SIAM show, it will be June 8, 9 & 10.  Another interesting 
note:  There will be a tractor and gas engine auction about 20 miles away 
from the show on Saturday June 9.  You can go wilsonauction.com to see the 
listing, but don't expect anything nice and shiny.  I plan to go over and 
see what it all looks like soon (tomorrow I hope).

Glenn Karch
Hercules Historian
Haubstadt, Indiana, USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BillMil357 at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]


> Hi Steve,
>
> Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints? Steve 
> I
> hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well 
> as
> Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker 
> family,
> and others on the List.
>
> See'ya, Bill Miller.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at 
> http://www.aol.com.
>
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From reb1952 at bellsouth.net  Thu May 24 19:16:09 2007
From: reb1952 at bellsouth.net (Dickie)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:16:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000801c79e72$a90054a0$0302a8c0@Dads>

Be there too Bill.

Dick Bauer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]


>
>>  Steve I
>>hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well 
>>as
>>Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker 
>>family,
>>See'ya, Bill Miller.
>
> Hi Bill,
>         I'll be there. So will the Hollands, Glenn, Keith and perhaps the
> Webres.
>                 Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From kimmell at verizon.net  Thu May 24 19:30:32 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:30:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize]
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <0JI7006TJGHOAJQ1@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<0JI9006QKRSWAKF7@vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
	<004301c79c78$fb089240$0601a8c0@altech>
	<0JIG00F0VZ6K4RE7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0705241520330.74454@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0JIK00L2XSBWY550@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>

Alright... lets try this again.  This time it should be dial-up 
friendly.  http://www.oldengine.org/members/maytag92

That's one sweet program.

-Tony



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Thu May 24 20:26:01 2007
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 22:26:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
Message-ID: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>

John, what do you have to say about an 1812 hydro?  I picked one up last
summer for $400 with 50" or 52" (I forget) deck, brand new tires and front
pto.  Not sure what year it is but it runs and mows great and I love the
power steering.  Picked up a brand new blade for it this past spring at an
auction for $20.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 5/24/2007 8:23:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] What's it Worth?
>
> Don't keep up with the values but I can tell you what you have is one of
the 
> last "real" Cadets. The 6 and 782's got respect from the dealers. They
were 
> built about the time Cadet was spun off to MTD. Their weak link was the 
> engine. Definetly a fine piece of equipment, as I'm sure you know!
>
> John Hall
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old
Engine" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:29 AM
> Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
>
>
> > Hiya Folks,
> >
> > Well, it's my turn to ask that caveat-loaded question.
> >
> > This grass cutting season I decided it was time to treat my wife to a
new
> > grass cutting machine.  She's getting a Cub Cadet "zero turn radius"
> > tractor which will be a LOT easier for her given the number of trees she
> > has to cut around.  Am I a peach or what?  8-))
> >
> > This now puts me in the position of needing to get rid of the "surplus"
> > tractor.  And as a part of doing that I'd like to get a feel for what
it's
> > worth.  Oddly enough, at various shows I've seen guys displaying
restored
> > ones so I know that there are SOME out there who would regard it as a
> > "collectable" and not as simply a yard tool.
> >
> > What I have is a 1981 International Cub Cadet 782 Tractor with a Kohler
> > Model KT17S 2 cyl 17 hp engine.  It's a good strong runner and has a
> > hydrostatic transmission, an electric front PTO, and a hydraulic lift
for
> > the mower deck or plow.  It has new rubber on all four wheels, new wheel
> > weights & chains, and a new battery.  The two accessories are an
> > International Model 50C 3-Spindle Mower Deck and an International Snow
> > Blade.  This web site has some info. 
http://www.ihcubcadet.com/BobsPage/
> >
> > Any info that anyone can provide on what's a reasonable asking price
would
> > be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > See ya,  Arnie
> >
> > Arnie Fero
> > Pittsburgh, PA
> > fero_ah at city-net.com
> >
> >
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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Thu May 24 21:03:48 2007
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:03:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>

Guys and Gals
I will be missing the SIAM show this year.  Our daughter, Elizabeth, 
is graduating from college in Wisconsin the same week end.  Really 
really hate to miss it but wouldn't miss her graduation for anything. 
You'all have fun and hopefully I'll be able to make it to Portland.
Keith


At 08:56 PM 5/24/2007, you wrote:

> >  Steve I
> >hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as well as
> >Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, 
> Tucker  family,
> >See'ya, Bill Miller.
>
>Hi Bill,
>          I'll be there. So will the Hollands, Glenn, Keith and perhaps the
>Webres.
>                  Dave
>
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From falcon at telenet.net  Thu May 24 21:52:29 2007
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
In-Reply-To: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>
References: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <46566B8D.2030904@telenet.net>


Tim Christoff wrote:
> John, what do you have to say about an 1812 hydro?  I picked one up last
> summer for $400 with 50" or 52" (I forget) deck, brand new tires and front
> pto.  Not sure what year it is but it runs and mows great and I love the
> power steering.  Picked up a brand new blade for it this past spring at an
> auction for $20.
> 
> Tim Christoff
> Basehor Kansas
> 
> 


You STOLE it. The 1812s were built from 86-89. They were built by MTD 
and are basically a yellow/white 82 series with an 18 HP Kohler.

-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
NRA Member
Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.


From curt at imc-group.com  Fri May 25 04:49:13 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:49:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
	<200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <4656CD39.2030109@imc-group.com>

There is going to be one hell of an auction at Keith barn that weekend! 
  :-)
Curt

Keith Kinney wrote:
> Guys and Gals
> I will be missing the SIAM show this year.  Our daughter, Elizabeth, 
> is graduating from college in Wisconsin the same week end.  Really 
> really hate to miss it but wouldn't miss her graduation for anything. 
> You'all have fun and hopefully I'll be able to make it to Portland.
> Keith
>
>
>   



From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Fri May 25 13:10:37 2007
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM
In-Reply-To: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
Message-ID: <495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bill

I burn to CD/DVD and an external USB hard drive that is pluged in only to
move files and then stored in a safe.

As to SIAM, There is an auction that weekend which has several locally
built engines on it that is not too far away.  If I can preview the
engines prior, I might leave an absentee bid with the auctioneer or
another local collector....But I don't know yet.

I also have a local 2 hour evening engine/tractor show in the Downtown of
Downers Grove on Friday June 8.  Something different for the locals....and
it is only 5 blocks away from the house.

Steve
--- BillMil357 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>  
> Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints?
> Steve I 
> hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as
> well as 
> Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker 
> family, 
> and others on the List.
>  
> See'ya, Bill Miller. 
> 
> 
> 
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From andyglines at hotmail.com  Fri May 25 13:19:22 2007
From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:19:22 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1180108802.3414.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <BAY141-F217624A8F2C3A7508BD8EEC72B0@phx.gbl>


>   17. Re: SIAM Show (Curt)
>Message: 17
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:49:13 -0400
>From: Curt <curt at imc-group.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] SIAM Show
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <4656CD39.2030109 at imc-group.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>There is going to be one hell of an auction at Keith barn that weekend!
>   :-)
>Curt

10-4 on the Kinney sale curt.  I'd really like to have one of the little 
Clark dozers in the Kinney collection.  I'm really excited about this year's 
show because I plan to have the Huber steam engine there after 3 years of 
work.  With a bit of luck the club's Venn-Severin diesel will run at the 
show for the first time.   Keith, we'll miss you and your family at the show 
and please give you daughter my congratulations.

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From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri May 25 15:09:14 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:09:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SIAM Show
In-Reply-To: <200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com
 >
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20070524205409.01d319f0@mail.alltel.net>
	<200705250007101.SM05196@keithsnotebook.herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070525170724.01e65ec0@mail.alltel.net>

You and your family will be missed Keith! However, you DO have your 
priorities straight. Tell Elizabeth that I said CONGRATS!
         Dave

At 11:03 PM 5/24/2007, you wrote:
>Guys and Gals
>I will be missing the SIAM show this year.  Our daughter, Elizabeth,
>is graduating from college in Wisconsin the same week end.  Really
>really hate to miss it but wouldn't miss her graduation for anything.
>You'all have fun and hopefully I'll be able to make it to Portland.
>Keith



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri May 25 23:15:36 2007
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:15:36 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM
In-Reply-To: <495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <c45.15dacc42.33879338@aol.com>
	<495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160705252315i328f81c7i7f36eaa5a6a6e1f0@mail.gmail.com>

On 25/05/07, Steve Barr <stevebarr at ameritech.net> wrote:
> Bill
>
> I burn to CD/DVD and an external USB hard drive that is pluged in only to
> move files and then stored in a safe.
>

With most of our own images, we tend to back up to DVD and keep
duplicates on a separate hard drive as well.

Like insurance, if you have it, you never use it....

Other card formats such as Secure Digital and Compact Flash can also
be used as back-up stores in the short term, but the little USB drives
are so cheap now it is worth having a couple around just for general
use.

We save our high resolution scans in TIFF format, but reduce in size
and change to JPEG for website use.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sat May 26 04:03:40 2007
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:03:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] What's it Worth?
References: <410-2200755253261375@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003c01c79f85$85b33710$dbd14c0c@D48VHZ61>

Definetly a good buy. I'm trying to remember which one it is. I think yours 
is the same as an 1810 except it has hydraulic deck lift--same as the 
difference between a 682 and a 782. I beleive yours has the Magnum series 
Kohler---most likely a M18. Much better engine than the KT17 in the 82's. 
Those had a tendency to let trash stick open the needle valve and flood the 
engine with gas while not running. If you didn't check the oil before you 
ran it next you wound up with a bill for a new engine---generally too much 
labor to pay to rebuild those.

By the way, the size you have as well as one about the size (but of better 
quality) than a Murray were the 2 most popular ones sold around here.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Christoff" <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] What's it Worth?


> John, what do you have to say about an 1812 hydro?  I picked one up last
> summer for $400 with 50" or 52" (I forget) deck, brand new tires and front
> pto.  Not sure what year it is but it runs and mows great and I love the
> power steering.  Picked up a brand new blade for it this past spring at an
> auction for $20.
>
> Tim Christoff
> Basehor Kansas
>
> 




From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Sun May 27 00:31:42 2007
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 15:31:42 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM
References: <495904.27455.qm@web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c7a031$1251a250$f301a8c0@armstrong>

Steve.
what time on Friday will the show start and exactly where, my daughter wants 
to take the grandchildren
Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Barr" <stevebarr at ameritech.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland treasures [File Resize] & SIAM


> Bill
>
> I burn to CD/DVD and an external USB hard drive that is pluged in only to
> move files and then stored in a safe.
>
> As to SIAM, There is an auction that weekend which has several locally
> built engines on it that is not too far away.  If I can preview the
> engines prior, I might leave an absentee bid with the auctioneer or
> another local collector....But I don't know yet.
>
> I also have a local 2 hour evening engine/tractor show in the Downtown of
> Downers Grove on Friday June 8.  Something different for the locals....and
> it is only 5 blocks away from the house.
>
> Steve
> --- BillMil357 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Where do you keep your high resolution pictures stored for   prints?
>> Steve I
>> hope to see you and your Dad at the Siam Show in a couple weeks,  as
>> well as
>> Dave and Arnie, Curt Holland family, Glen Karch, Keith Kenny, Tucker
>> family,
>> and others on the List.
>>
>> See'ya, Bill Miller.
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************** See what's free at
>> http://www.aol.com.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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> 



From glenforge at hotmail.com  Mon May 28 05:45:30 2007
From: glenforge at hotmail.com (Peter Cumming)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:45:30 +0800
Subject: [SEL] "Gits" oil seals
Message-ID: <BAY118-F846150A3CE6FA68FA94E5B6280@phx.gbl>

Gday,

Has anybody got an idea of how to repair/ replace "Gits" oil seals as found 
on an Internatinal type H (Ronaldson Tippet type N)?

Thanks

Peter Cumming
Wagin,
Western Australia
glenforge at hotmail.com

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From MBellar at aol.com  Mon May 28 08:48:53 2007
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:48:53 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Spam/Phish> Parts washer
Message-ID: <d24.f2b4c4f.338c53e5@aol.com>

GE just recalled our old dish washer, and I opted to replace it  instead of 
exchanging the defective parts. I have been wondering if it is  practical 
disconnect the drain valve add a nylon stocking filter and try to use  it as a 
parts cleaner. Has anybody tried this, or will the grit and  grime destroy the 
plastic innards.
 
Tom 



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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Mon May 28 09:03:48 2007
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:03:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
Message-ID: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>

Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and I
don't want to tear anything up.

Thank you.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas






From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Mon May 28 10:37:02 2007
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 12:37:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Was dishwasher, now parts cleaner?
Message-ID: <BAY127-F39034E2F6CB9A745104419CB280@phx.gbl>

"I have been wondering if it is  practical
disconnect the drain valve add a nylon stocking filter and try to use  it as 
a
parts cleaner."

For sure, don't use a flammable solvent in it.  The electrics aren't 
designed for that.  I used one as a tool cleaner, using the regular 
dishwasher detergent.  It is very effective on grease and oil, and on most 
paint as well.  Eventually, depending on the quantities involved, the grit 
will tear up the pump.  The good news is that pump repair kits are cheap, 
and straightforward to replace.

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

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From kimmell at verizon.net  Mon May 28 10:52:31 2007
From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 12:52:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Spam/Phish> Parts washer
In-Reply-To: <d24.f2b4c4f.338c53e5@aol.com>
References: <d24.f2b4c4f.338c53e5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0JIR00IQJJ0KEZV0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

Tom,
I did that with an old Whilrpool dishwasher to clean car engine 
parts.  I built a frame out of coat hanger wire and stretched some 
very fine steel mesh screen over it.  I set this screen over the 
bottom of the unit so it would filter the drain water before it ran 
through the pump.  I then zip-tied a sock over the outlet hose and 
just draped it over the side of my utility sink.  I used natural 
orange based degreaser detergent in it and never had any problems 
until the motor died from a failed bearing (unrelated).

At 10:48 AM 5/28/2007, Tom wrote:
>GE just recalled our old dish washer, and I opted to replace it  instead of
>exchanging the defective parts. I have been wondering if it is  practical
>disconnect the drain valve add a nylon stocking filter and try to 
>use  it as a
>parts cleaner. Has anybody tried this, or will the grit and  grime 
>destroy the
>plastic innards.
>
>Tom




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon May 28 11:43:42 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 14:43:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
In-Reply-To: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>
References: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1180377822.465b22de5838d@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Tim,

Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual that I
could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's just
two check balls.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:

> Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and I
> don't want to tear anything up.




From MBellar at aol.com  Mon May 28 16:22:41 2007
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:22:41 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
Message-ID: <c16.175621f0.338cbe41@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/28/2007 12:07:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tchristoff at earthlink.net writes:

Anyone  got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
internal  parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and  I
don't want to tear anything up.



Tim;
 
If Arnie's reply does not help you let me know. I have hidden in my  files a 
copy of a copy of a copy of the parts breakdown manual for the Novo  "S" 
engines which may help you.
 
Tom



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From MBellar at aol.com  Mon May 28 16:58:55 2007
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:58:55 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Parts washer/ Miller Engine
Message-ID: <c0e.1058aaeb.338cc6bf@aol.com>

List Members thank you for the feedback. I think that I will give the  dish 
washer modification a try.
 
After three years of messing around I finely got my George Miller & Son  
Waterloo engine blowing smoke. It was on a cement mixer so a lot of sand and  grit 
went through it. I have replaced most of the pins and rebushed  everything 
including the cylinder. I still have to have the piston  regrooved, but now 
there is pretty good compression and she runs and sounds like  a show engine. Now 
all I need to know is what color should I paint it. The  engine & mixer was 
solid rust. The only paint I could find was behind  some bolts which is best 
described as a vomit green that I would not even  put on an axed Maytag. Any 
advice out there?  
 
Tom in SW Ohio



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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Mon May 28 17:44:00 2007
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:44:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
Message-ID: <410-2200752290440921@earthlink.net>

Arnie, it is a Novo S.  Is there supposed to be a spring in it somewhere? 
I see no provisions for returning the plunger to the top.  The line drawing
would be great, thank you.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 5/28/2007 2:37:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual
that I
> could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's
just
> two check balls.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:
>
> > Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> > internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck
and I
> > don't want to tear anything up.
>
>
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From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon May 28 21:26:16 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:26:16 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
Message-ID: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>

18th Annual Home School Fair of Southern California. The Home School  
Fair occurs annually each Memorial Day, in Ontario, California. The  
purpose of the Home School Fair is to serve the children of the  
homeschool community by allowing them a place to share their talents  
and abilities with friends, family members, and other homeschooled  
students.

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From jdohagan at comcast.net  Mon May 28 22:09:20 2007
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 22:09:20 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
In-Reply-To: <410-2200752290440921@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20070529050924.981F539241A@mx-in04.iad.mail-abuse.org>

Hi Tim ,My Novo 3 HP pump[most sizes take same pump]has a plunger with a
lipped top. The spring goes under the lip and is caught between the top of
the pump body's brass packing nut and the lip of the plunger.Under the
packing nut is some form of packing string/rope, then a brass reducing
bushing. That's about it. I think there are Two check balls in the gas
intake/discharge casting on the side of the pump.

Jim O'Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:44 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump

Arnie, it is a Novo S.  Is there supposed to be a spring in it somewhere? 
I see no provisions for returning the plunger to the top.  The line drawing
would be great, thank you.

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 5/28/2007 2:37:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual
that I
> could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's
just
> two check balls.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:
>
> > Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> > internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck
and I
> > don't want to tear anything up.
>
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From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 23:09:03 2007
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 23:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
In-Reply-To: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <108642.27054.qm@web59215.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Rob-san,  Thank you for the Home School info.  If I were in the States now, I would surely attend.  I am hearing excellent reports about the academics acquired by most home-schoolers.  Do you know who sponsors this event?


   
   



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon May 28 23:36:55 2007
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 23:36:55 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
In-Reply-To: <108642.27054.qm@web59215.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <108642.27054.qm@web59215.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1C119ACA-8478-449B-861A-88C9EDE9598E@rustyiron.com>


On May 28, 2007, at 11:09 PM, William Young wrote:

> Rob-san,  Thank you for the Home School info.  If I were in the  
> States now, I would surely attend.  I am hearing excellent reports  
> about the academics acquired by most home-schoolers.  Do you know  
> who sponsors this event?


Wakai-san, I don't know the answer to your question.
Perhaps the answer lies here:  http://www.homeschoolfair.com




From brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz  Mon May 28 23:53:40 2007
From: brent.tamatea at clear.net.nz (brent.tamatea)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:53:40 +1200
Subject: [SEL] Novo Pump
In-Reply-To: <1180377822.465b22de5838d@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <410-22007512816348125@earthlink.net>
	<1180377822.465b22de5838d@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <000601c7a1be$17ce1b30$0201a8c0@tamatea1>

Tim what metal is the pump made up of if steel or brass electrolysis is a
good method to unseize delicate parts if rusted without undue force.Do not
consider if the housing is aluminium as the process will eat it away.If
aluminium why not gently heating in some auto transmission oil as i have
unseized difficult brake cylinders with this method especially the type that
have only one opening brent New Zealand 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
fero_ah at city-net.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 6:44 a.m.
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Novo Pump

Hi Tim,

Novo S fuel pump?  If yes, I have a line drawing in an instruction manual
that I
could scan for you.  It's pretty simple; other than the plunger, there's
just
two check balls.

See ya,  Arnie

Quoting Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>:

> Anyone got a diagram of the pump from a 3 hp Novo that shows all the
> internal parts?  I need to rebuild one and everything is pretty stuck and
I
> don't want to tear anything up.


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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May 29 08:14:25 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:14:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
In-Reply-To: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
References: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070529101327.01c8e620@mail.alltel.net>

Great pictures and a good cause Rob!
         Dave
PS, How did you know what Kelley was looking at--or even if she was awake?

At 11:26 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
>18th Annual Home School Fair of Southern California. The Home School
>Fair occurs annually each Memorial Day, in Ontario, California. The
>purpose of the Home School Fair is to serve the children of the
>homeschool community by allowing them a place to share their talents
>and abilities with friends, family members, and other homeschooled
>students.
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May 29 10:50:11 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:50:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
Message-ID: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi List,

Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???

I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.

The last year it accepts is 2006.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From b2 at chooka.net  Tue May 29 11:05:40 2007
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:05:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
In-Reply-To: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00de01c7a21b$f7cd6bc0$700a0a0a@apluscomputer.local>

1951 is one, according to my Green Magazine calendar. 

B?
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Joseph L Betz
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:50 PM
To: off_topic at oldiron-nut.com; SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] what time ?

Hi List,

Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???

I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.

The last year it accepts is 2006.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue May 29 12:00:35 2007
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:00:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
In-Reply-To: <00de01c7a21b$f7cd6bc0$700a0a0a@apluscomputer.local>
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
	<00de01c7a21b$f7cd6bc0$700a0a0a@apluscomputer.local>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0705291459160.82923@vegeta.city-net.com>

Joe's probably screwed...  VCRs weren't invented in 1951.  8-)))

On Tue, 29 May 2007, Bill Brueck wrote:

> 1951 is one, according to my Green Magazine calendar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???
> I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.
> The last year it accepts is 2006.
>
> Joe "Pip" Betz said that.



From f86sabre at kcweb.net  Tue May 29 13:04:50 2007
From: f86sabre at kcweb.net (f86sabre at kcweb.net)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:04:50 -0600
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c7a22c$9dbd2d30$9701a8c0@danlsthing>

The last prior year is 2001, before that 1990.  Just go back 11, then 
another 11, then 6.  They recur in that order.  You can recycle your old 
calendars if you are a packrat!
Dan Bousman
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To: <off_topic at oldiron-nut.com>; <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: [SEL] what time ?


> Hi List,
>
> Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???
>
> I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.
>
> The last year it accepts is 2006.
>
> Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
>   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue May 29 12:06:51 2007
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:06:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Attn. Peter Forbes
Message-ID: <20070529.120651.732.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Peter:  please contact me off list.  Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue May 29 13:40:51 2007
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:40:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
In-Reply-To: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
References: <20070529.135112.892.0.jlb94@juno.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20070529163938.03057790@pop3.wcoil.com>

Don't quote me but I believe the calendar recycles every 12 or 14? 
years.    Mark


At 01:50 PM 5/29/07, you wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>Does anyone out there know what past year has the same dates as 2007 ???
>
>I have an old VCR in the gameroom and can't set the time.
>
>The last year it accepts is 2006.
>
>Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
>jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
>    ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
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>   (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."
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Weekdays & Saturday 10 AM to 9 PM Eastern Time 419.358.5206
No Sunday calls if possible.
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them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue May 29 14:10:48 2007
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:10:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] what time ?
Message-ID: <20070529.171053.1116.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Thanks Bill & Pete,
 
Will try 1951 and 2001.

(Later)  Used 2001 - 
1951 is too early for VCR's.

Thanks for your help.
 
Joe "Pip" Betz said that.
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
   ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
   \/)"(\/      " If you want to see what Betty buys - 
  (_o_)                   you have to see through Betty's eyes."


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 29 19:20:17 2007
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:20:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair
References: <4703CEF2-1CF1-41F9-AF8F-4CC16BE606A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01c7a261$1176bc30$240110ac@FAMILY>

Rob beautiful pictures and a nice show. Thanks for posting them.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rskinner at rustyiron.com>
To: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Home School Fair


> 18th Annual Home School Fair of Southern California. The Home School  
> Fair occurs annually each Memorial Day, in Ontario, California. The  
> purpose of the Home School Fair is to serve the children of the  
> homeschool community by allowing them a place to share their talents  
> and abilities with friends, family members, and other homeschooled  
> students.
> 
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Tue May 29 19:51:32 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:51:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Anyone From WI coming to Coolspring?
Message-ID: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>

I have an engine truck in Wausau, WI and wondered if anyone coming to 
Coolspring was near there or coming through there on the way.  It would 
be a way to help pay for some high dollar fuel.  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





From shop at cccomm.net  Wed May 30 12:13:09 2007
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:13:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks T
References: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>


Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
Thanks in advance,
Dave



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed May 30 13:25:40 2007
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:25:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks T
In-Reply-To: <006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
References: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>
	<006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
Message-ID: <465DDDC4.6010505@scrtc.com>

Dave,
    I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't 
know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a 
deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black 
mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont 
number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.

Tommy



Dave Ernst wrote:

>Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>Thanks in advance,
>Dave
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From curt at imc-group.com  Thu May 31 05:15:07 2007
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:15:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fairbanks T
In-Reply-To: <465DDDC4.6010505@scrtc.com>
References: <465CE6B4.7000108@scrtc.com>	<006001c7a2ee$9084ffe0$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
	<465DDDC4.6010505@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <465EBC4B.8060006@imc-group.com>

Tommy,
The T's I've seen with paint on them still have the dark, dark, almost 
black paint you mention.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
> Dave,
>     I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't 
> know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a 
> deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black 
> mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont 
> number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
> Dave Ernst wrote:
>
>   
>> Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dave
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From sumron at optusnet.com.au  Thu May 31 17:56:14 2007
From: sumron at optusnet.com.au (Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:56:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 38, Issue 31
References: <mailman.3.1180627202.15890.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <003501c7a3e7$a92c3cd0$dcc6693a@userecaf7b7be7>

Hi ,Dave Ernst
Which is the correct colour Green or Red ???

many years ago I had a friend who made racing motor cycles for a living, he 
always did his own painting and I can still remember him saying that to 
correctly apply a "RED" finnish coat, you use a "Green" undercoat, while  to 
apply "GREEN" finnish coat you use a "Red" undercoat,
Now, does you engine show a Finnish coat,  or is it an undercoat ???
food for thought??
John,  The Tankman, in OZ.



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> From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
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> Dave,
>    I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't
> know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a
> deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black
> mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont
> number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
> Dave Ernst wrote:
>
>>Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Dave
>>
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> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:15:07 -0400
> From: Curt <curt at imc-group.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Fairbanks T
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> Tommy,
> The T's I've seen with paint on them still have the dark, dark, almost
> black paint you mention.
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>> Dave,
>>     I've seen them with original paint in both green and red.  I don't
>> know if age played a part in this or the application.  The green was a
>> deep green (almost black) like a brewster green with maybe some black
>> mixed in.  The red was a deep red and a color that I have used is dupont
>> number 43124.  See what other info people have for you.
>>
>> Tommy
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Ernst wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone know where to find the correct color code for a FM T?
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Dave
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu May 31 23:11:55 2007
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:11:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] FW: Austral Oil Engine Register
Message-ID: <20070601061200.GBRA1715.oaamta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>


As many of you know the Austral Oil Engine register, compiled over many
years by Peter Willcock, was closed at the end of last year. After much
discussion I am taking over the project, to keep the register alive. There
are still a lot of Australs out there not on the register and still a lot
more information to be found and disseminated.
I hope to compile all the information into a computer data-base over the
next few months and will hopefully soon have it all up and running. This
should allow me to provide maximum benefit for those interested in the
Austral Oil Engines without me filling up all my free time trying to keep
track of it all.
The task makes me appreciate even more the work that others do maintaining
engine registers and researching the history of the engines. It is important
to make the information as available as possible for our fellow enthusiasts
& I hope to do the Austral Register the justice it deserves. 

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue May 22 18:31:39 2007
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:31:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Dinner and Auction--2007
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20070522200834.01d8c848@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	The annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction will be held once again during 
the August Portland Show. The date for the dinner this year is (Thurs.) 
August 23rd at 6:00 PM. As in past years the dinner will be at the Back 40 
Junction in Decatur, IN.  Decatur is about 25 miles north of Portland on 
Rt. 27. The Back 40 Junction is on the west side of Rt. 27 at the north end 
of town. The auction will follow the dinner. Start looking around for items 
to donate to the auction!
	Ellen said that the waitresses were looking forward to seeing Reg again 
this year, and when I told her that he would not be joining us she said 
that she thought it best not to tell them until the evening of the dinner. 
She then asked if that "Gene Dotson guy" ("The guy with the 'big Minnie' ") 
would be there. I didn't want to disappoint her twice in a row, so I said 
that I believed that he would. Gene, the ball is in your court!
	I told Ellen that I would contact her to provide a "head count" as time 
neared for the dinner. If you plan to join us please let me know so that I 
can provide a fairly good estimate to Ellen. I'm at rotigel at alltel.net 
Thanks, and I sure hope to see everyone at the dinner and auction!
	Dave
PS, I'm trusting that Glenn will again "run" the auction and that we can 
count on Peg (once again) for record keeping!