From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Fri Sep  1 03:56:12 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:56:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm Back!
Message-ID: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>

I had to unsubscribe for a few days while we moved from an apartment to a house.  Finally!!!  We bought my dad's place in Hubbard Township.  Its out in the country on an acre of land.  The property is covered with mature maple, pine and apple trees and has a large garage should I want to keep some old iron here. The area is actually known as Coalburg, and got its name from the mines that were in the area 120 years ago.  

Rick Rowlands



From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 04:36:11 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:36:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6cc42$7feec4a0$424e693a@domain.invalid>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<000f01c6cc42$7feec4a0$424e693a@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <44F81B2B.5030004@imc-group.com>

Edd,
I've been through all my photos now and unfortunately am not finding 
this this one. It this the side shaft engine that was all slicked out? 
Can't believe I didn't take a picture of it!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

edd payne wrote:

>Great pics Curt.Did you get a pic of the Thompson Tiger that was there.Al
>Hann told me there was one there that got sold .
>EDD PAYNE
>PO BOX 364 GULGONG
>New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
>0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
>To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL (Oldengine.org)"
><stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "OFES" <ofes at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
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From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 04:43:36 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:43:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Quik Poly or XP 2000
In-Reply-To: <000601c6cd4c$f53493b0$09b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>
References: <000601c6cd4c$f53493b0$09b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>
Message-ID: <44F81CE8.1090203@imc-group.com>

Rob, Lyle, Dave, Damian,
Thank you for the update on KwikPoly. Seems they added the llc to the 
end of the old URL.
I'll give 'em a call today.
Curt

Lyle Myles wrote:

>Do you have any thing lying around like a can or box this came in? if you do
>maybe there is an address on this for the company and if so you could call
>information and see if the business is still in operation and then if they
>are you can give them a call and see if they still sell this or if they have
>replaced it with something else. Also folks sometimes forget the Better
>Business Bureau can also give you information on companies if they are still
>in business or not. Hope this might help some.
>
>Lyle Myles
>
>May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
>given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!
>
> 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Curt
>Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:55 PM
>To: SEL; SEL (Oldengine.org)
>Subject: [SEL] Quik Poly or XP 2000
>
>Whatever became of the Kwik Poly, 2 part, water thin epoxy used to seal 
>fuel tanks? For a while it was sold under the XP 2000 name, but I can't 
>find either name on the 'net anymore. Mine finally set up after sitting 
>around a few years. I had used about 2/3 of the quart kit. It's good 
>stuff and I'd like to replace it.
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
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From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 04:50:36 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:50:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm Back!
In-Reply-To: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>
References: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <44F81E8C.4090507@imc-group.com>

Rick,
Congratulations on home ownership!
As a trivia note, the Coalburg name refers to a prominent seam of coal 
that's found in Ky, Pa, Wv. Sounds like it ran up into Oh too.
Curt

Rick Rowlands wrote:

>I had to unsubscribe for a few days while we moved from an apartment to a house.  Finally!!!  We bought my dad's place in Hubbard Township.  Its out in the country on an acre of land.  The property is covered with mature maple, pine and apple trees and has a large garage should I want to keep some old iron here. The area is actually known as Coalburg, and got its name from the mines that were in the area 120 years ago.  
>
>Rick Rowlands
>
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>
>  
>



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Sep  1 05:10:28 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:10:28 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Quik Poly or XP 2000
References: <000601c6cd4c$f53493b0$09b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>
	<44F81CE8.1090203@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV907EF46A4553188D89477BB3C0@phx.gbl>

If all else fails Curt, going on three years with this Red Kote on the 
Galloway..had some pretty good seeps too.

It's a single pak and excess can be drained and reused.  Recomended to be by 
an ole farm wrench.

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/60686285/1201050969039077051uKwoCf

Good Luck
RickinMt. 



From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Fri Sep  1 05:27:12 2006
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 05:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Thompson
In-Reply-To: <000a01c6cd74$0091bf90$930cecdc@morris>
Message-ID: <20060901122712.99922.qmail@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed

Here are 2 photos that I took of one at Baraboo.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/56.jpg

http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/57.jpg

There might have been another one there, but I am not sure.

Steve

--- Kerry <ozengine at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

G'Day Edd

Sorry never met All and did not know about a TT but if I remember correct
Reg said he took photos for someone, only hope
 
Kerry
PS. Reg is back end of this month

This is for Kerry.Did you meet All Hann at Baraboo.If you did you must be
the Ozy who took the pics of the Thompson Tiger for me.If it wasn't you.
WHO WAS IT.
EDD PAYNE
PO BOX 364 GULGONG
New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep  1 05:37:58 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:37:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Russell,

Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
just ignored 'em.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:

> Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
>   and what it didn't go!
>
> At 10:11 PM 30/08/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >The picture series on the SEL Bessemer "get fit" program was GREAT!!  8-))
> >
> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> >
> > <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>



From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 06:39:19 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:39:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <44F83807.5050209@imc-group.com>

Hey Russell, I seem to recall the same bit of trouble in your shed while 
Kerry was on a flywheel ;-)
Curt

Russell Gilbert wrote:

> Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
>  and what it didn't go!
>



From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Fri Sep  1 08:34:32 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:34:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm Back!
References: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>
	<44F81E8C.4090507@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <003301c6cddc$1f161d40$05e14044@pengy>

Up here the seam was called Brier Hill block coal.  I think the two names 
have seperate origins.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm Back!


> Rick,
> Congratulations on home ownership!
> As a trivia note, the Coalburg name refers to a prominent seam of coal 
> that's found in Ky, Pa, Wv. Sounds like it ran up into Oh too.
> Curt
>
> Rick Rowlands wrote:
>
>>I had to unsubscribe for a few days while we moved from an apartment to a 
>>house.  Finally!!!  We bought my dad's place in Hubbard Township.  Its out 
>>in the country on an acre of land.  The property is covered with mature 
>>maple, pine and apple trees and has a large garage should I want to keep 
>>some old iron here. The area is actually known as Coalburg, and got its 
>>name from the mines that were in the area 120 years ago.
>>Rick Rowlands
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
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From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Sep  1 08:45:43 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:45:43 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
many times with no success.

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> >
> >
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>






From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 09:10:10 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:10:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <44F85B62.7030306@imc-group.com>

Orrin,
I can't explain it but when I click on the link you included in your 
reply it won't open. However, when I type it in it works fine!

The only thing I see missing in the link provided is the missing ">" at 
the end of the URL.

Try this:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>

or even
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html

Curt

Orrin Iseminger wrote:

>Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
>many times with no success.
>
>Regards, 
>
>Orrin
>
>Orrin Iseminger
>Colton, Washington, USA
>http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
>So many projects.  So little time.   
>
>  
>
>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>  
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>  
>



From lyle45859 at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep  1 09:24:12 2006
From: lyle45859 at peoplepc.com (Lyle Myles)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:24:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <000001c6cde3$108d8c20$10b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>

I had no problems logging on to both sites that were listed.  
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm &
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html 
Lyle Myles

May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!

 


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin
Iseminger
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.

Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
many times with no success.

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> >
> >
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>




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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep  1 08:57:22 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:57:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609011156400.51180@vegeta.city-net.com>

Yes.  Sucks to be you.  8-))

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote:

> Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
> many times with no success.

> http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html



From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Sep  1 10:32:40 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:32:40 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <44F85B62.7030306@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <200609011733.k81HWo4H008805@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Curt, I see the problem.  The .html was truncated.  The page comes up just
fine, now. 

Thank you for the assistance. 

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:10 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.

Orrin,
I can't explain it but when I click on the link you included in your 
reply it won't open. However, when I type it in it works fine!

The only thing I see missing in the link provided is the missing ">" at 
the end of the URL.

Try this:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>

or even
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html

Curt

Orrin Iseminger wrote:

>Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've
tried
>many times with no success.
>
>Regards, 
>
>Orrin
>
>Orrin Iseminger
>Colton, Washington, USA
>http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
>So many projects.  So little time.   
>
>  
>
>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
>>>
><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.htm
l
>  




From Germoamer at aol.com  Fri Sep  1 10:49:06 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:49:06 EDT
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
Message-ID: <c37.154793d.3229cc92@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/1/2006 11:50:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
oiseming at moscow.com writes:

<< Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  >>

Orrin,

I just tried it copying from your note and it  worked just fine.

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From rex002 at centurytel.net  Fri Sep  1 16:55:11 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:55:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
Message-ID: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>

Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it may be
? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout the
pictures on this webshots link ,
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo

Thanks
Rex Hinz



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Fri Sep  1 17:21:16 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 20:21:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
References: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <866ba801856274cc2c9844e4fd7d93c5@chartertn.net>

Dunno, but it's cool!

John

On Sep 1, 2006, at 7:55 PM, rex002 wrote:

> Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
> tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it 
> may be
> ? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout 
> the
> pictures on this webshots link ,
> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  1 20:23:00 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 20:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <20060902032300.72903.qmail@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Such a machine can be found in old catalogs referred to as an "Irish
Mail". A quick google search turned up several machines like it. How it
came to be called such, I do not know.
Joe

--- rex002 <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:

> Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
> tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it may
> be
> ? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout the
> pictures on this webshots link ,
> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo
> 
> Thanks
> Rex Hinz
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 


Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI USA

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 


From rex002 at centurytel.net  Sat Sep  2 07:47:26 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 09:47:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
References: <20060902032300.72903.qmail@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003301c6ce9e$b5864cb0$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>

Thanks Joe

   An Irish Mailer it is , Now to restore it and put it on display  


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" <joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?


> Such a machine can be found in old catalogs referred to as an "Irish
> Mail". A quick google search turned up several machines like it. How it
> came to be called such, I do not know.
> Joe
> 
> --- rex002 <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
>> Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
>> tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it may
>> be
>> ? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout the
>> pictures on this webshots link ,
>> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rex Hinz
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
> 
> 
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com 
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  2 09:45:30 2006
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:45:30 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> OT Irish Mail
In-Reply-To: <200609021600.k82G04nm026636@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F31DFA16C6FF726311095B0CB3D0@phx.gbl>

Joe, you beat me to it.  I had one as a kid; it had a wooden platform body.  
Not sure about
age or manufacturer, as it was aged when I got it.  It was very cool, 
though, and I remember
the body being trimmed suspiciously similar to my Flexible Flyer sled.

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway




From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep  2 16:43:49 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:43:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Steam Cable plows, was nice wheels
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20060801091533.028db278@lbpinc.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01c6cee9$a548a0a0$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank DeWitt" <Frank at lbpinc.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: [SEL] Steam Cable plows, was nice wheels


>I ran across this article on cable plows
> 
> Steam-operated cable plowing developed successfully in England, using 
> a system of two steam engines pulling a cable-drawn plow. The English 
> cable plows were capable of traveling safely at up to 4 mph when 
> plowing through good soil. The length of the furrow was usually 
> measured in 1/2 miles rather than in rods, and the early English 
> cable plows, with their short strings of cable, were grossly 
> inadequate. By 1870, there were 3,000 steam cable-plowing outfits in 
> operation in England and only four outfits operating in the U.S. 
> Henry E. Lawrence, a southern planter, used one of these plowing 
> outfits on his 1,000-acre sugar estate near New Orleans.
> Cable plowing never really took root in North America, owing mostly 
> to issues of topography and the large size of our fields, 
> particularly in the West. The general use of cable-type steam plows 
> was widespread in Germany around the 1890s, and they were still being 
> used for reclaiming peat land as late as the 1970s.
> http://www.steamtraction.com/article/2003-03-01
> Interesting
> Frank

Hi Frank, at my last engine show a model maker had made a very good model of the Steam ploughing field.
Unfortunately I had forgotten to pack my camera. (Slaps wrist very hard!!)
He promised to send me pictures
Tonight I received the pictures which are at,
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/553736245OQRhRQ
I will try to find some more pictures for this album.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep  3 17:47:52 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:47:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <006501c6cfbb$c1608500$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

I was wondering if there is a server problem.I am not getting any list
mail.or I am getting returned undeliverable .
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns



From Vivas1993 at aol.com  Sun Sep  3 17:49:59 2006
From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:49:59 EDT
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <bf2.348e7ac.322cd237@aol.com>

Hi Edd,
Yours is the first SEL message that I've had since yesterday morning, glad  
to know someone is still around :-)
 
 Dwight,
Matoaca, VA.

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Sun Sep  3 17:56:45 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:56:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <20060903.205645.760.1.jlb94@juno.com>

Coming through here Edd.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/        " A diplomat is someone who can disagree
(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  2 04:54:35 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:54:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Thompson
References: <20060901122712.99922.qmail@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000501c6ce86$a1385180$1482683a@domain.invalid>

Thank you Steve.Great pics.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Barr" <stevebarr at ameritech.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Thompson


> Ed
>
> Here are 2 photos that I took of one at Baraboo.
>
>
http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/56.j
pg
>
>
http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/57.j
pg
>
> There might have been another one there, but I am not sure.
>
> Steve
>
> --- Kerry <ozengine at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> G'Day Edd
>
> Sorry never met All and did not know about a TT but if I remember correct
> Reg said he took photos for someone, only hope
>
> Kerry
> PS. Reg is back end of this month
>
> This is for Kerry.Did you meet All Hann at Baraboo.If you did you must be
> the Ozy who took the pics of the Thompson Tiger for me.If it wasn't you.
> WHO WAS IT.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO BOX 364 GULGONG
> New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
> 0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Sep  3 20:17:11 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:17:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <20060903.201712.480.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Edd.
I am replying through the list and to you directly.  See which one gets
to you first.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:47:52 +1000 "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
writes:
> I was wondering if there is a server problem.I am not getting any 
> list
> mail.or I am getting returned undeliverable .
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns


From brianne at ultratune.com.au  Mon Sep  4 01:13:57 2006
From: brianne at ultratune.com.au (Brian Taylor)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:13:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Power Hacksaw
Message-ID: <001a01c6cffa$136e30c0$44c4dccb@brian>

Hi Guys
We have acquired a power hacksaw of unknown origin.
If you can identify it that would be great. If you could give us an idea of what size engine would normally have been used to power it, even greater. If you have an idea of the drive pulley size to power it at correct speed, greater still.
Check out pics at http://herveybaymuseum.museum.com/welcome.html
Click on Engines, then Power Hacksaw.
Many Thanks
Brian Taylor
Publicity Officer
Hervey Bay Historical Village & Museum
QLD Australia

From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Sep  4 03:38:32 2006
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:38:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060904203659.01976668@ncable.com.au>

I have to admit Arnie that Kerry is alright swinging the flywheels 
over, gee who was the wise arse from the crowed?? Someone we know? A 
skinny balding chap perhaps?
Russell

At 10:37 PM 1/09/2006, you wrote:
>G'day Russell,
>
>Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
>Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
>spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
>just ignored 'em.  8-))
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:
>
> > Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
> >   and what it didn't go!
> >
> > At 10:11 PM 30/08/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >The picture series on the SEL Bessemer "get fit" program was GREAT!!  8-))
> > >
> > >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics 




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon Sep  4 06:40:57 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:40:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>

I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin , 
may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will 
miss him

Rex Hinz 



From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon Sep  4 07:09:46 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:09:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power Hacksaw
In-Reply-To: <001a01c6cffa$136e30c0$44c4dccb@brian>
Message-ID: <20060904140949.279CC627836@mx-in01.mail-abuse.org>

I was using mine to cut "rebar" at the Waukee show. Powered by a 2hp Alamo
"idling" along at a pretty slow speed.
I could measure my pulleys in a bit - I certainly would not run it faster
than I was doing.
Toughest part was keeping the belt from slipping on the uneven ground there
alignment wasn't easy but once going, it worked quite well and got a number
of remarks.

Yours looks like it's a step up in size from the one I powered with the
engine - looks closer in size to my 14" saw which is the same make/brand and
all, just the next model up.
It's powered with an electric motor about the size of a washing machine
motor.

Bill
Runnells, IA  USA
Our thoughts with all of Australia as I read of the news of Steve Irwin.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Taylor
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:14 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Power Hacksaw

Hi Guys
We have acquired a power hacksaw of unknown origin.
If you can identify it that would be great. If you could give us an idea of
what size engine would normally have been used to power it, even greater. If
you have an idea of the drive pulley size to power it at correct speed,
greater still.
Check out pics at http://herveybaymuseum.museum.com/welcome.html
Click on Engines, then Power Hacksaw.
Many Thanks
Brian Taylor
Publicity Officer
Hervey Bay Historical Village & Museum
QLD Australia
_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon Sep  4 07:10:15 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:10:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>

Agreed - and for those wondering:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html


Bill 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies

I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin ,
may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
miss him

Rex Hinz 

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon Sep  4 07:27:12 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:27:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
References: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <d1f684c08b87f2c5c9527a43db5dcc4b@chartertn.net>

I sure am sorry to hear about it, too.

John

On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:40 AM, rex002 wrote:

> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve 
> Irwin , may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the 
> world will miss him
>
> Rex Hinz


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep  4 08:52:55 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:52:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060904203659.01976668@ncable.com.au>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060904203659.01976668@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609041152130.1029@vegeta.city-net.com>

heh-heh-heh.  I'd never say...

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:

> I have to admit Arnie that Kerry is alright swinging the flywheels
> over, gee who was the wise arse from the crowed?? Someone we know? A
> skinny balding chap perhaps?
>
> At 10:37 PM 1/09/2006, you wrote:
> >Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
> >Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
> >spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
> >just ignored 'em.  8-))



From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Sep  4 11:59:45 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:59:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <20060904.150721.1372.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Bill,

YES - I was wondering if it were the same Steve Irwin.

Thanks, for the link.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/        " A diplomat is someone who can disagree
(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Mon Sep  4 16:46:39 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:46:39 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
Message-ID: <002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>

He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White 
Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire men 
,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral is 
taking it a bit too far!
By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite the 
show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Agreed - and for those wondering:
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin 
> ,
> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
> miss him
>
> Rex Hinz
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> 




From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net  Mon Sep  4 17:47:17 2006
From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (George & Norma Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:47:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <004801c6d084$d8e53bc0$f5630b42@computer>

Peter-----
    You are wrong!!  Everbody is special whether they are doing something
dangerous or just living a so-called normal life.              George
-----Original Message-----
From: peter ogborne <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


>He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country
>that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
>Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire men
>,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
>TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
is
>taking it a bit too far!
>By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
the
>show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin
>> ,
>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>> miss him
>>
>> Rex Hinz
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Sep  4 18:27:41 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:27:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hi Peter
              I don't agree with you there, this man was a true 
conservationist and mixed a lot of humor with it to get it across. What a 
lot of people don't realize is that most of what he made went back into that 
cause, he also did a lot for Tourism here. It is sad to think that the rest 
of the world thought of him and his cause than some of our fellow countryman 
did.
Cheers Cam.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White 
> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire 
> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral 
> is taking it a bit too far!
> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite 
> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .

>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html





From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Sep  4 18:45:33 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:45:33 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com><7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00af01c6d08c$fb354910$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hey Arnie, it's a good job you didn't give him a crank handle.
Cheers Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.


> G'day Russell,
>
> Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
> Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
> spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
> just ignored 'em.  8-))
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
>>   and what it didn't go!
>>
>> At 10:11 PM 30/08/2006, you wrote:
>> >
>> >The picture series on the SEL Bessemer "get fit" program was GREAT!! 
>> >8-))
>> >
>> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
>> >
>> > <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>
>
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Mon Sep  4 19:36:14 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:36:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
Message-ID: <000e01c6d094$0f11cd80$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

Well said Cam!
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cam grundy" <ponchie at ozemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Hi Peter
>               I don't agree with you there, this man was a true
> conservationist and mixed a lot of humor with it to get it across. What a
> lot of people don't realize is that most of what he made went back into
that
> cause, he also did a lot for Tourism here. It is sad to think that the
rest
> of the world thought of him and his cause than some of our fellow
countryman
> did.
> Cheers Cam.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
> > He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
country
> > that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> > Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
> > Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
> > men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> > TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state
funeral
> > is taking it a bit too far!
> > By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
> > the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>
> >
> >
> >> Agreed - and for those wondering:
> >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>
>
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep  4 18:34:41 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:34:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <004801c6d084$d8e53bc0$f5630b42@computer>
References: <004801c6d084$d8e53bc0$f5630b42@computer>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060904213030.03aaebc0@mail.alltel.net>

At 08:47 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
>Peter-----
>     You are wrong!!  Everbody is special              George

Hi George,
         If "Everybody is special" then the word "special" has no meaning. 
It's really too bad that logic is no longer taught in schools and 
understood by so few!
         Dave
PS, May you live a joyous life with the PC BS that is now so much part of 
our culture! 



From BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com  Mon Sep  4 21:53:28 2006
From: BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com (Barry  Gorman)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:53:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To and from the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <006301c6d0a7$3a9cfac0$0100000a@userd6162315ba>


            Barry Gorman
    Hunter Valley NSW  AUSTRALIA
  BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com

"Crickey" Peter , struth mate atsa a bloke that will leave a hole in the 
AUSSIE  persona forever <
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days



From lyle45859 at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  4 22:44:30 2006
From: lyle45859 at peoplepc.com (Lyle Myles)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:44:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To and from the aussies
In-Reply-To: <006301c6d0a7$3a9cfac0$0100000a@userd6162315ba>
Message-ID: <000001c6d0ae$5cf95990$6db85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>

Yes there are lots of people with higher risks jobs than he had. The
difference here is that he touched the lives of millions of viewers and he
stood up for the animal kingdom and tried to share that with his audience.
No matter what kind of man he was he was and still is very important to God
and I know today he is in a better place even though he will be truly missed
by his family, friends and fans. Yes a lot of people have lost the meaning
of something special but not me. I cared for my wife for years before her
death and there were times I just did not think I'd make it through another
day seeing her suffer as she did. But with all the pain and heartache, she
was and will always be special to me for what she taught me about strength
and caring for one another.

Lyle Myles

May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!

 


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Barry Gorman
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:53 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To and from the aussies


            Barry Gorman
    Hunter Valley NSW  AUSTRALIA
  BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com

"Crickey" Peter , struth mate atsa a bloke that will leave a hole in the 
AUSSIE  persona forever <
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country

> that risk their lives every day in their normal days

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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  4 20:05:38 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:05:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
	<000e01c6d094$0f11cd80$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <008d01c6d098$2abb9260$240110ac@FAMILY>

Ed what a terrible loss losing Steve Erwin, all of us in America loved Steve 
and he will be sorely missed. My condolences to you and all of your 
countrymen.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Well said Cam!
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> 



From russell at ncable.com.au  Tue Sep  5 01:56:48 2006
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:56:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>

Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree 
that the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make 
us Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way. 
If you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say 
"Well what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders 
for Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more 
aware of the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated 
east cost. He also employed 500 locals in his local community. He 
rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who 
he was and his cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But 
he was one of a kind and all done for the better good. Even if his 
ways were different to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be. 
His got my respect for what he has done for awareness to wildlife 
etc. Doesn't mean I would have had him around for dinner. Just paying 
credit where credit is due.
Russell

At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
>He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this 
>country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great 
>White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky 
>Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc 
>etc ............
>TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state 
>funeral is taking it a bit too far!
>By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not 
>quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>>Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin ,
>>may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>>miss him
>>
>>Rex Hinz
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics 




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep  5 03:26:41 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:26:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
Message-ID: <20060905102634.VPSA6880.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I am still sorted out the 250 odd photos I took at Macksville on the weekend
but here is something to mull over. This nicely (possibly overly) restored
Aussie Chamberlain tractor. The paint finish was perfect and all the nuts
were chromed but the most amazing thing was that all the parts that would
normally be chromed were 9k gold plated!
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060268.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060269.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060270.JPG


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep  5 03:57:31 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:57:31 EDT
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <526.7229af3.322eb21b@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/4/2006 11:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rotigel at alltel.net writes:

<< If "Everybody is special" then the word "special" has no meaning.  >>


Dave, even you are special in someone's eyes!

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 04:03:32 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:03:32 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Steve Irwin
Message-ID: <007101c6d0da$f08b5970$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>

I am suitably chastised.............
Peter Ogborne 
Little Grove ,Albany 
West Australia 
''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
jopeter at omninet.net.au



From oldengines at bigpond.com  Tue Sep  5 04:14:17 2006
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:14:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <001101c6d0dc$6d6620f0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Hi All
I don't reply much to the list,but this quote sums it all up" but Sometimes 
it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're
an idiot rather than open it and confirm their suspicions."
Thanking you all
Ron

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
> is taking it a bit too far!
> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin
>> ,
>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>> miss him
>>
>> Rex Hinz
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
>
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>



From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Tue Sep  5 04:20:17 2006
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:20:17 +1000
Subject: [S] Re: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001101c6d0dd$44baf210$77ad57ca@n>

Absolutly well said Russell, what he did for Australia and for wildlife 
conservation in Australia and around the world was an bloody fantastic! He 
touched the hearts of many and will live on as one of Australia's greatest 
wildlife conservationists.
   Cheers
        Mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: [S] Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree
> that the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make
> us Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way.
> If you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say
> "Well what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders
> for Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more
> aware of the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated
> east cost. He also employed 500 locals in his local community. He
> rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who
> he was and his cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But
> he was one of a kind and all done for the better good. Even if his
> ways were different to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be.
> His got my respect for what he has done for awareness to wildlife
> etc. Doesn't mean I would have had him around for dinner. Just paying
> credit where credit is due.
> Russell
>
> At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
>>He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
>>country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>>Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great
>>White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky
>>Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc
>>etc ............
>>TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state
>>funeral is taking it a bit too far!
>>By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not
>>quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" 
>><bill at antique-engines.com>
>>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>>Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>>Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>>Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>>
>>>I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin 
>>>,
>>>may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>>>miss him
>>>
>>>Rex Hinz
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 04:42:26 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:42:26 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<001101c6d0dc$6d6620f0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
Message-ID: <000f01c6d0e0$5fa92490$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>

Obviously the reason why you don't reply much Ron.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Sullivan" <oldengines at bigpond.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Hi All
> I don't reply much to the list,but this quote sums it all up" but 
> Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're
> an idiot rather than open it and confirm their suspicions."
> Thanking you all
> Ron
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this 
>> country
>> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
>> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
>> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
>> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
>> is taking it a bit too far!
>> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
>> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>>
>>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve 
>>> Irwin
>>> ,
>>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world 
>>> will
>>> miss him
>>>
>>> Rex Hinz
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> 




From nancydick at pennswoods.net  Tue Sep  5 07:49:58 2006
From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:49:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <20060905102634.VPSA6880.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060905074540.01b1a860@mail.pennswoods.net>

That is a nice tractor in dress suit. I have a question do you have a photo 
of the exhaust side. I would like to see how they support that big muffler 
and pipe from breaking the manifold. See a lot with exhaust like that that 
have had the manifold repaired.
R Fink
USA
PA




At 08:26 PM 9/5/2006 +1000, you wrote:
>I am still sorted out the 250 odd photos I took at Macksville on the weekend
>but here is something to mull over. This nicely (possibly overly) restored
>Aussie Chamberlain tractor. The paint finish was perfect and all the nuts
>were chromed but the most amazing thing was that all the parts that would
>normally be chromed were 9k gold plated!
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060268.JPG
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060269.JPG
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060270.JPG
>
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep  5 05:33:40 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:33:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
Message-ID: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty throttle-governed
Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I suspect
was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
Some pics at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep  5 05:38:15 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:38:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20060905074540.01b1a860@mail.pennswoods.net>
Message-ID: <20060905123807.YTTZ18372.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Sorry, I don't have a picture of the other side. It is most unusual for me
to take any photos of the tractors. 

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

That is a nice tractor in dress suit. I have a question do you have a photo 
of the exhaust side. I would like to see how they support that big muffler 
and pipe from breaking the manifold. See a lot with exhaust like that that 
have had the manifold repaired.
R Fink
USA
PA





From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep  5 05:39:48 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:39:48 EDT
Subject: [SEL] unknown equipment
Message-ID: <58c.417c1fb.322eca14@aol.com>

Anybody have an idea what the photos of the old equipment are? Beam operated 
feed chopper with an elevator?  

http://cgi.ebay.com/WOOD-SHINGLE-SAW-MILL-OR-WHAT-IS-THIS_W0QQitemZ19002768255
7QQihZ009QQcategoryZ14279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Tue Sep  5 06:03:55 2006
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:03:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <009e01c6d0eb$c48b6700$77ad57ca@n>

Great rally Pics patrick, you have done well again. will like to attend that 
rally one day.
  Cheers
        Mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty 
> throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I 
> suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep  5 06:12:02 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:12:02 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
Message-ID: <001601c6d0ec$e1cee610$3ac10b52@no1>

What do you think about the new styling on the webshots pages?
My first impression is that it is worse than it was but perhaps I am missing
some new features.
Other peoples opinions will be appreciated.

Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  5 05:53:36 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:53:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <00af01c6d08c$fb354910$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com><7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<00af01c6d08c$fb354910$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609050849570.38220@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Cam,

We DID talk about that but decided that neither of us could lift one sized
for the Bessemer.

We also decided that Kerry possesses bad Ju-Ju when it comes to crank
handles.  At Baraboo he was watching some bloke try and start an IHC LA
with a crank.  Yep, you guessed it, bloke smashed himself in the chops
with it.  Kerry quietly snuck away.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Cam grundy wrote:

> Hey Arnie, it's a good job you didn't give him a crank handle.
>
> Cheers Cam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> >
> > Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
> > Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
> > spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
> > just ignored 'em.  8-))



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Tue Sep  5 06:22:54 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:22:54 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <019301c6d0ee$6692fa20$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hi Patrick
                Thanks a million for the Photo's Mate, a great job as usual. 
Cheers Cam.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty 
> throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I 
> suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep  5 06:25:49 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:25:49 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <20060905102634.VPSA6880.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <C122C8ED.2A84%rskinner@rustyiron.com>


On 9/5/06 3:26 AM, "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> The paint finish was perfect and all the nuts
> were chromed but the most amazing thing was that all the parts that would
> normally be chromed were 9k gold plated!

A Pimp Daddy tractor!

The only thing missing is low profile tires
and spinner wheels.





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  5 06:11:18 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:11:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6d0e0$5fa92490$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<001101c6d0dc$6d6620f0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
	<000f01c6d0e0$5fa92490$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609050910140.38220@vegeta.city-net.com>

"Jane, you ignorant slut..."  8-))

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, peter ogborne wrote:

> Obviously the reason why you don't reply much Ron.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Sullivan" <oldengines at bigpond.com>
>
> > I don't reply much to the list,but this quote sums it all up" but
> > Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're
> > an idiot rather than open it and confirm their suspicions."
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> >
> >> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
> >> country
> >> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> >> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
> >> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
> >> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> >> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
> >> is taking it a bit too far!
> >> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
> >> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .



From tdunlap at satx.rr.com  Tue Sep  5 07:05:21 2006
From: tdunlap at satx.rr.com (Tom Dunlap)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:05:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <000601c6d0f4$53da7060$1febb748@mycomputer>

No,  Irwin was one of a kind..not braver, just an unbelievably unique man. 
He was very special.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White 
> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire 
> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral 
> is taking it a bit too far!
> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite 
> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin 
>> ,
>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>> miss him
>>
>> Rex Hinz
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>
>
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From driggars at earthlink.net  Tue Sep  5 07:37:08 2006
From: driggars at earthlink.net (Clint D)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:37:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>

Russell

well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
respect as what and who he was.

Clint


Russell Gilbert wrote:
> Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree that 
> the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make us 
> Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way. If 
> you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say "Well 
> what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders for 
> Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more aware of 
> the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated east cost. He 
> also employed 500 locals in his local community. He rubbed shoulders 
> with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who he was and his 
> cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But he was one of a 
> kind and all done for the better good. Even if his ways were different 
> to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be. His got my respect 
> for what he has done for awareness to wildlife etc. Doesn't mean I 
> would have had him around for dinner. Just paying credit where credit 
> is due.
> Russell
>
> At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
>> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this 
>> country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great 
>> White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky 
>> Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc 
>> etc ............
>> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state 
>> funeral is taking it a bit too far!
>> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not 
>> quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" 
>> <bill at antique-engines.com>
>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>>
>>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve 
>>> Irwin ,
>>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world 
>>> will
>>> miss him
>>>
>>> Rex Hinz
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep  5 08:30:36 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:30:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
	<44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Clint,
         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) 
I would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death was, 
indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
         Dave
PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!

At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>Russell
>
>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>respect as what and who he was.
>
>Clint



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 10:56:48 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:56:48 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <200609052048843.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>


>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,
>
>I am still sorted out the 250 odd photos
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW

Hi Patrick,
         You're slipping up - your pics are normally up on the Sunday night :-)

         Not to worry - we had our annual show this last weekend and I'm 
still sorting as well !!
         What I've looked at of yours so far seem to be up to your normal 
high standard - thanks and well done.

         Those gold plated bits would never last here - the indigenous 
population would think that they were brass and hammer them off to take to 
the local "scrappie".

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 10:45:38 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:45:38 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Steve Irwin
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905194254.03e0de40@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>
>From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
>Subject: [SEL] Steve Irwin
>To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>I am suitably chastised.............
>Peter Ogborne
>Little Grove ,Albany
>West Australia
>''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
>jopeter at omninet.net.au

Hi There Peter,
         Struth Mate - I thought you only specialized in getting the Yanks 
"riled up" - now you're doing it to the Aussies as well :-)


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 11:03:10 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:03:10 +0200
Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <200609052048718.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>


>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
>Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
>To: "atis" <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>What do you think about the new styling on the webshots pages?
>My first impression is that it is worse than it was but perhaps I am missing
>some new features.
>Other peoples opinions will be appreciated.
>Dave Croft
>Warrington

Hi Dave,
         I'm not crazy about "Webshots" because of the adverts that load 
first and take up our very slow bandwidth before you can even get to the 
pics you want to see.
         Having said that, I logged on to your page and it does seem to 
load quite a bit quicker than the old system so as far as I'm concerned it 
is an improvement.

P.S. 20 minutes after writing the above.
         Oops - Drastic change of mind - the thumbnails load quite quickly 
but I use "Firefox" and open the linked larger pics in "new tabs" - with a 
slow connection they all seem to "timeout" - the adverts load O.K. but the 
pics I want to see just "timeout" and I've got to click the reload button 
for each of them . I get a page showing a large blank "place holder' for 
the pic and a bunch of adverts "Cnet has launched in Britain" features very 
prominently. Obviously their coding forces the adverts to load first. I do 
not like pages like this.
         This is probably O.K. for all you guys with Broadband or fast 
connections but does not work for me!  I also realize that it is just my 
own problem that I live in a country that is going backwards fast and 
Internet connections are not up to par with the rest of the world - but you 
asked for opinions.
         How many of you guys out there on the SEL have the same problem as 
me - connection speeds not up to standard ??

         The above is the reason why I love "oldengine.org" - no top heavy 
scripting - no adverts - no bulldust - just engine stuff. Thanks very much 
Jim you are doing us all a service that we probably can never thank you 
enough for.

         Dave, thanks for your very interesting pages - I do look at them 
often because you have things up there that I want to see (and am prepared 
to wait) but I think that the "casual browser" may not be as patient.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 12:23:06 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:23:06 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905211242.03e37e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW

Hi Again Patrick,
         Just spent some more time looking at your pics. Great stuff.
         One question - the Petter at:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060183.JPG>

         I've never seen a Petter like that over here - can you tell me 
something more about it?
It bears a slight resemblance to a Ronnie N ?


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 13:10:24 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:10:24 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
In-Reply-To: <200609052048718.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>
References: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
	<200609052048718.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609051310he1fcf27kcec11594f5e63820@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/09/06, Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:
>
>          The above is the reason why I love "oldengine.org" - no top heavy
> scripting - no adverts - no bulldust - just engine stuff. Thanks very much
> Jim you are doing us all a service that we probably can never thank you
> enough for.
> Jerry Evans

One of the 'benefits of Oldengine.org is that all the pictures are
shown within HTML coding, so that the browser can display just what
the site owner wants, and nothing else.

It is not for all though, and a lot of folk don't want the hassle of
learning HTML, which is why Webshots and others are so popular.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep  5 13:23:53 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:23:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905211242.03e37e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000701c6d129$36088470$3ac10b52@no1>

Hi Jerry, I did think of Petter W1 the water cooled version of the A1
but the only picture I have of one has rounded corners on the cylinder top.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain


> 
>>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>Leichhardt NSW
> 
> Hi Again Patrick,
>         Just spent some more time looking at your pics. Great stuff.
>         One question - the Petter at:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060183.JPG>
> 
>         I've never seen a Petter like that over here - can you tell me 
> something more about it?
> It bears a slight resemblance to a Ronnie N ?
> 
> 
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans  
> 
> 
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From pasquale.nj at verizon.net  Tue Sep  5 13:23:18 2006
From: pasquale.nj at verizon.net (Pasquale Lombardi)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:23:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ***   Wanted, A Carb for my SANDWICH    ***
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609051310he1fcf27kcec11594f5e63820@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008801c6d129$21a31cc0$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>

 Gentlemen, Can someone give me an idea where I might obtain a carburetor
for my Sandwich Hit & Miss engine?
Thank you,
Pat in NJ



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep  5 13:58:10 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:58:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905211242.03e37e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<000701c6d129$36088470$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <001301c6d12e$002344d0$3ac10b52@no1>

Hi Jerry, see the pictures on this Ebay page.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stationary-engine-petter-w1_W0QQitemZ130020874986QQihZ003QQcategoryZ58177QQcmdZViewItem
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain


> Hi Jerry, I did think of Petter W1 the water cooled version of the A1
> but the only picture I have of one has rounded corners on the cylinder top.
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:23 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
> 
> 
>> 
>>>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>>>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>>>
>>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>>Leichhardt NSW
>> 
>> Hi Again Patrick,
>>         Just spent some more time looking at your pics. Great stuff.
>>         One question - the Petter at:
>> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060183.JPG>
>> 
>>         I've never seen a Petter like that over here - can you tell me 
>> something more about it?
>> It bears a slight resemblance to a Ronnie N ?
>> 
>> 
>> Keep the revs up (or down)
>> Jerry Evans
>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>> Tel. (016) 365-5787
>> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
>> www.oldengine.org/members/evans  
>> 
>> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  5 13:37:06 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:37:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ***   Wanted, A Carb for my SANDWICH    ***
In-Reply-To: <008801c6d129$21a31cc0$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>
References: <008801c6d129$21a31cc0$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609051629370.44680@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Pat,

A couple of suggestions...

Put a "Parts Wanted" ad on Harry's.  http://www.enginads.com/bigengin.cgi

Give Hit & Miss a call.   http://www.hitnmiss.com/

Go to the Fall Swap Meet at Coolspring Oct. 19-21.
http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/

It would also help if you gave more info on your engine; HP, model, etc.
Photos are always helpful.

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Pasquale Lombardi wrote:

>  Gentlemen, Can someone give me an idea where I might obtain a carburetor
> for my Sandwich Hit & Miss engine?
> Thank you,
> Pat in NJ



From BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com  Tue Sep  5 14:15:13 2006
From: BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com (Barry  Gorman)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:15:13 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Emailing: Mamma_pictures
Message-ID: <000701c6d130$60aa0b70$0100000a@userd6162315ba>

Barry Gorman 
Hunter Valley NSW AUSTRALIA

Just Try This for More Than 4000 Pages ( Unknown Person )

 http://mamma51.mamma.com/Mamma_pictures?query=steve+irwin&start=1

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From pasquale.nj at verizon.net  Tue Sep  5 14:48:59 2006
From: pasquale.nj at verizon.net (Pasquale Lombardi)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:48:59 -0400
Subject: ***   Arnie   ***   RE: [SEL] ***   Wanted,
	A Carb for my SANDWICH    ***
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609051629370.44680@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00a501c6d135$1931e510$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>

 Hello Arnie,
Thank you so much for your help Arnie.
I shall post photos to the SEL list soon.
And I will try the link you provided.
Again, thank you Arnie,
Pat in NJ


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:37 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] *** Wanted, A Carb for my SANDWICH ***

Hi Pat,

A couple of suggestions...

Put a "Parts Wanted" ad on Harry's.  http://www.enginads.com/bigengin.cgi

Give Hit & Miss a call.   http://www.hitnmiss.com/

Go to the Fall Swap Meet at Coolspring Oct. 19-21.
http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/

It would also help if you gave more info on your engine; HP, model, etc.
Photos are always helpful.

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Pasquale Lombardi wrote:
p
>  Gentlemen, Can someone give me an idea where I might obtain a 
> carburetor for my Sandwich Hit & Miss engine?
> Thank you,
> Pat in NJ

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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Tue Sep  5 14:55:06 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:55:06 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <004b01c6d135$f31be000$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

Great stuff as usual mate.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>;
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty
throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I
suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 15:26:23 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:26:23 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au><44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <003101c6d13a$5522a500$a4fc8790@ogborneuah38i3>

Dave,I am gobsmacked!!! Do you and I see this the same way?This has to be a 
first.
Look all you other fans......he may have been a hit on US TV but what about 
Hogues you loved him,he even lives with you now. Irwin was a conservationist 
so they say but so was Harry Butler,Russel Coight,BobBrown .........
There is a word in the English language ........irony.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Hi Clint,
>         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
> 147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) I 
> would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
> was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death was, 
> indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
>         Dave
> PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!
>
> At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>Russell
>>
>>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>>respect as what and who he was.
>>
>>Clint
>
> _______________________________________________
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> 




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Sep  5 16:18:08 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:18:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au><44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net><6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net>
	<003101c6d13a$5522a500$a4fc8790@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <000801c6d141$8f293640$6400a8c0@home>

My goodness , I sure didn't mean to get this tug of war started , But I do 
say everybody's got their own opinion .and that's the way it should be. so 
it makes no difference , you liked him or you didn't , Lots of people  did 
and some didn't, I could get killed at my job any day but that put me in 
Steve's category .

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Dave,I am gobsmacked!!! Do you and I see this the same way?This has to be 
> a first.
> Look all you other fans......he may have been a hit on US TV but what 
> about Hogues you loved him,he even lives with you now. Irwin was a 
> conservationist so they say but so was Harry Butler,Russel Coight,BobBrown 
> .........
> There is a word in the English language ........irony.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Hi Clint,
>>         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
>> 147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
>> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) I 
>> would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
>> was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death was, 
>> indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
>>         Dave
>> PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!
>>
>> At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>>Russell
>>>
>>>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>>>respect as what and who he was.
>>>
>>>Clint
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Sep  5 16:35:25 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:35:25 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Large engines cheap
Message-ID: <20060905.163525.1816.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 I found this on Harry's page.

 Today, 03:23 PM 
Pacrat  
Registered Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Canyon, Texas USA
Posts: 25 

 Large Engines cheap 



I received a call today from a fellow who has been contracted to demolish
some old power generating plants in northern and west Texas. Some of the
old engines are probably collectable. His phone is 817-401-2354. He said
he would take a little more than scrap value, to make it worth his while
to save them.
Thanks
Robert


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Sep  5 17:06:25 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:06:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies, 
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au><44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net><6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net><003101c6d13a$5522a500$a4fc8790@ogborneuah38i3>
	<000801c6d141$8f293640$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <000601c6d148$4bcfd500$6400a8c0@home>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rex Hinz" <rex002 at centurytel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> My goodness , I sure didn't mean to get this tug of war started , But I do 
> say everybody's got their own opinion .and that's the way it should be. so 
> it makes no difference , you liked him or you didn't , Lots of people  did 
> and some didn't, I could get killed at my job any day but that does not 
> put me in Steve's category .
>
> Rex
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Dave,I am gobsmacked!!! Do you and I see this the same way?This has to be 
>> a first.
>> Look all you other fans......he may have been a hit on US TV but what 
>> about Hogues you loved him,he even lives with you now. Irwin was a 
>> conservationist so they say but so was Harry Butler,Russel 
>> Coight,BobBrown .........
>> There is a word in the English language ........irony.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>> Hi Clint,
>>>         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
>>> 147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
>>> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) I 
>>> would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
>>> was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death 
>>> was, indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
>>>         Dave
>>> PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!
>>>
>>> At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>>>Russell
>>>>
>>>>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>>>>respect as what and who he was.
>>>>
>>>>Clint
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From bboyce at swat.coop  Tue Sep  5 18:59:28 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:59:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
Message-ID: <006501c6d158$16780750$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it 
finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only 
received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question concerns 
the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2 
distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor wired 
for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two are 
required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor becomes 
very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too hot 
? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  + terminal 
on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
any help will be appreciated,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas 




From bboyce at swat.coop  Tue Sep  5 19:13:11 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:13:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
Message-ID: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it
finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only
received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question concerns
the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2
distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor wired
for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two are
required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor becomes
very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too hot
? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  + terminal
on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
any help will be appreciated,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas




From bethell1 at iinet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 19:08:00 2006
From: bethell1 at iinet.net.au (Jim Bethell)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:08:00 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
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Here, here!! Well said mate.
Jimbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree
> that the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make
> us Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way.
> If you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say
> "Well what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders
> for Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more
> aware of the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated
> east cost. He also employed 500 locals in his local community. He
> rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who
> he was and his cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But
> he was one of a kind and all done for the better good. Even if his
> ways were different to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be.
> His got my respect for what he has done for awareness to wildlife
> etc. Doesn't mean I would have had him around for dinner. Just paying
> credit where credit is due.
> Russell
>
> At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
> >He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
> >country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> >Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great
> >White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky
> >Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc
> >etc ............
> >TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state
> >funeral is taking it a bit too far!
> >By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not
> >quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson"
<bill at antique-engines.com>
> >To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
> >
> >
> >>Agreed - and for those wondering:
> >>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
> >>
> >>
> >>Bill
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
> >>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
> >>To: The SEL email discussion list
> >>Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
> >>
> >>I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve
Irwin ,
> >>may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world
will
> >>miss him
> >>
> >>Rex Hinz
> >>
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> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
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From jbcast at charter.net  Tue Sep  5 19:37:48 2006
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:37:48 -0700
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
Message-ID: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>

Bill, the purpose of the resistor is to reduce current across the points, increasing point life. The resistor will get hot. One should work for both coils because only one coil can fire at a time. Leaving the switch on with the engine stopped will allow a dead draw across the resistor if the points are closed, with twelve cylinders this is quite likely. Some vehicles had a bypass wire to supply battery voltage to the coil while cranking, the starter pulls voltage down, this compensates.
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA


From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  5 20:26:35 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:26:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
Message-ID: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
care of my fenders.
Contact me off list if you are able to help.
Thanks,
Joe
P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?

Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI USA

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From bolhuis at amtelecom.net  Tue Sep  5 22:03:53 2006
From: bolhuis at amtelecom.net (bolhuis at amtelecom.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 01:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Border_Bob  Thank's
Message-ID: <63150.67.58.202.85.1157519033.squirrel@mail.amtelecom.net>

   I just want to take a moment of your time to say a great Big THANK-YOU
for all of your generous donations to Bobs recovery fund!! Your
prayers, calls, donations and thoughtfulness are really appreciated.
Bob was very impressed by your caring and kindness. We will be moving
Bob to Parkwood Hospital on Thursday afternoon, this is a hospital that
specializes in nothing but brain therapy. I thank god that he WAS
wearing his helmet (it is law in Ontario) if he wasn't he would not be
with us still. Bob has a long way to go for recovery and we take it one
day at a time. He is walking better now although his legs are weak and
a bit stiff. He walks everyday a few times around the hospital. He has
recovered some movement in his foot and ankle, so it looks like he will
not have "foot drop" but still has some numbness in that lower right
leg.
 Everyday is a blessing and we thank you all, and those other strangers
and friends at Portland who donated and called after hearing about Bob's
accident.Please pass our heartfelt thanks to any you know that donated
but are not on this list.   Thank You again , Sheila & Bob Bolhuis



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 23:44:55 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:44:55 +0100
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
In-Reply-To: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
References: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609052344x6c1fb37doba9fea870f80fa77@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/09/06, Bill Boyce <bboyce at swat.coop> wrote:
> hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it
> finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only
> received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question concerns
> the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2
> distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor wired
> for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two are
> required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor becomes
> very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too hot
> ? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  + terminal
> on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
> any help will be appreciated,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
>
>

It's probably a cold-starting resistor that is shorted out during
starting to give a higher voltage to the coil, then put back in
circuit when the engine is running. Should be one per coil and it
should not run red hot!

The coils can be replaced by modern 12V types (the existing ones  are
probably rated for 9V or even 6V) and the resistors discarded.

When the engine is stopped and the points closed you will feed current
continuously through the coils and resistor.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep  6 05:13:26 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
In-Reply-To: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
References: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
Message-ID: <1179.165.206.180.140.1157544806.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Ballast resister, usually ceramic, although some have used a resistance wire.
Function is to reduce current flowing through coil during normal
operations. The coil won't handle the full 12v full-time.
Yes, they can get VERY hot, thus the ceramic, however, I wonder about one
resister taking care of two coils. Sounds like a bit much load.
Mopar used ceramic resisters, as did certain other companies.
My Javelin had a grp 19 Mallary coil and it required such a ballast
resister and came as part of the kit. Otherwise, the stock ignition used a
resistance wire made into the wiring harness.
Personally, I'd have one resister per coil - they will run way too hot to
touch, but sounds like a lot of current going through that one with two
coils.

Bill

> hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it
> finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only
> received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question
> concerns
> the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2
> distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor
> wired
> for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two
> are
> required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor
> becomes
> very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too
> hot
> ? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  +
> terminal
> on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
> any help will be appreciated,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
>
>
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep  6 05:15:43 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:15:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
In-Reply-To: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>
References: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <1194.165.206.180.140.1157544943.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Good points - the bypass is usually handled by the starter solenoid -
giving full "battery voltage" during cranking to increase spark intensity
while the starter is pulling the battery voltage down.

So, perhaps one resister COULD run two coils - I bet the thing wouldn't
run so hot then while running. They DO get hot normally, that's why they
are ceramic and typically mounted "in the clear".

Bill

> Bill, the purpose of the resistor is to reduce current across the points,
> increasing point life. The resistor will get hot. One should work for both
> coils because only one coil can fire at a time. Leaving the switch on with
> the engine stopped will allow a dead draw across the resistor if the
> points are closed, with twelve cylinders this is quite likely. Some
> vehicles had a bypass wire to supply battery voltage to the coil while
> cranking, the starter pulls voltage down, this compensates.
> J.B. Castagnos
> Belle Rose, LA
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  6 05:22:27 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:22:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>

Humm,

I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
Coolsprings show.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" <joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed


> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
> care of my fenders.
> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?
>
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
>
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From shop at cccomm.net  Wed Sep  6 05:45:06 2006
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:45:06 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <015e01c6d1b2$47b4e860$6401a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>

Who made your fenders?

Dave E
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" <joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed


> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
> care of my fenders.
> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?
>
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
>
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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Wed Sep  6 06:08:30 2006
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:08:30 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001c01c6d1b5$8cc515d0$5f11fea9@merlin>

thanks for tthe pics patrick
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From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty 
> throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I 
> suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 06:46:13 2006
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
In-Reply-To: <004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <20060906134613.8696.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Morning Ed.
  Coolsprings is 10 miles south of the Brookville, PA exit 78, I-80, on route 36.
  It's a great engine show for this part of the country. Lots of club owned engines and equipment, plud usually a big turnout of displayers. Well worth you efforts to see it. I don't know the dates but someone will. 
  Ron Frost
  

Ed stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:
  Humm,

I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
Coolsprings show.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed


> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
> care of my fenders.
> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?
>
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed Sep  6 08:46:16 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:46:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
In-Reply-To: <004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060906114509.03be9008@mail.alltel.net>

At 08:22 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>Humm,
>
>I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
>Coolsprings show.
>
>Ed Stoller

See: http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/
         Dave
PS, It's Coolspring--NOT Coolsprings!  



From marshallman at iprimus.com.au  Tue Sep  5 22:16:35 2006
From: marshallman at iprimus.com.au (Jim)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:16:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5
References: <200609051600.k85G05nq032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c6d173$9fdf8cf0$0200a8c0@user783e64edcc>

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:46:39 +0800
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb at ogborneuah38i3>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country
that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire men
,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral is
taking it a bit too far!
By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite the
show man as was the late Mr Irwin .

Hey Pete,

Keep taking the "Brave and courageous" pills mate ....

(They're working! LOL!!!!)

Seriously,

I was never a huge fan of the man (along with others ....an example ..... )

Jim
marshallman at iprimus.com.au
Runnin' with the wind .....
8^)

Yep Jim I agree with you, I didnt like the bloke myself, but he was a huge 
Oz icon that will be missed terribly. I feel so sad for his family......But 
as ya said Tone said it all. The tall poppy syndrome is alive and well.
Luv ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim
  To: scarschat at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [scarschat] Steve Irwin



  FYI .....

  http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,20349888-421,00.html

  As we Aussies say ..... You either loved or hated him.

  Personally, I found him to be too loud and abrasive for my tastes ...... 
but he certainly got his message across, and for that I admire and respect 
him.

  The world certainly did .... see the above comments .....

  I think TJ summed up my sentiments to a Tee .... far better than I could 
...... and I quote ....

  "Suddenly Steve is being lauded as a great Australian..............the 
intellectuals lampooned him, the feminists attacked him over his child 
raising techniques, the greenies ranted at his treatment of the environment 
and the animal rights mob were constantly attacking him.....Steve Irwin made 
it, not here in Australia, but like many great musicians , entertainers and 
sportspeople he had to go overeas
  to get anywhere....once he succeeded he was another tall poppy for the 
politically correct to try to chop down...
  Now he is dead thats no fun anymore so we'll make him one of our 
heros......."

  I enjoyed watching Steve Irwins show ....I was often critised for my bad 
taste..........to me he seemed a guy who was passionate about what he did, 
seemed to love his family and was an alright decent bloke....I feel sad that 
he has died............I hope his death doesnt become a circus."

  You may not have known what went on over here.

  Best wishes to both you and Julio ..... and show him the comments ...... 
to let him know he is not alone.

  Jim
  marshallman at iprimus.com.au
  8^)
  Runnin' with the wind ...

    Subject: Re: [scarschat] Steve Irwin



    Been crying for hours over his to the point I could not post it. To 
Americans he was an Aussie icon. To kids,big and little alike , he was a 
teacher and a friend through the lessons he gave. RIP to a kind and gentle 
man who died doing what he loved most.


      News just to hand is Steve Irwin has died from a stingray barb While 
filming off the Cairns coast. He was stung directly in the heart






From gauto527 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  6 12:49:36 2006
From: gauto527 at hotmail.com (george maattala)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:49:36 +0000
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
Message-ID: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>

please take me off of your list i have over 720 messages in my emil today 
this is out of control please take me offfffffff!!!!!!!!!!......   
aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!....( gauto527 at hotmail.com)

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Wed Sep  6 14:07:05 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:07:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
Message-ID: <20060906.170813.1400.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Gee - George,

All you have to do is unsubscribe.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
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(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From fuller_johnson at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 14:31:41 2006
From: fuller_johnson at yahoo.com (Fuller & Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:31:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Rick Rowlands
Message-ID: <20060906213141.31114.qmail@web52314.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know where Rick has got to?  I can't seem to get in touch with him.  

Cheers!  NICK
 
 
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 14:44:37 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:44:37 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>

Hi List,
Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If so, 
where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?  Nite Ize 
makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria,  California



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Sep  6 14:53:04 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:53:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <44FF4340.1010208@scrtc.com>

George,
    It couldn't be from the list.  We've been running at probably 25 
messages or so average a day for quite a bit.  You could only have 720 
from the SEL if you haven't checked your mail for a month.  Your email 
address may have been captured by the spammers.  Getting off the list 
won't solve this problem.  Getting a new email address will.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, Ky

> please take me off of your list i have over 720 messages in my emil 
> today this is out of control please take me 
> offfffffff!!!!!!!!!!......   aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!....( 
> gauto527 at hotmail.com)
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  6 15:01:01 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:01:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
In-Reply-To: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c6d1ff$f40594f0$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

I found a conversion for the small (2-AA batteries) at Wal-Mart.  Ended
up putting the old bulb back in; didn't seem NEAR as bright.

Lew Best near Waco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
FRM8198 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:45 PM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.

Hi List,
Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If
so, 
where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?
Nite Ize 
makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria,  California

 

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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  6 15:11:46 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:11:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060906114509.03be9008@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <004501c6d201$727a5d60$f1f5f504@Ed>

Thank you Dave and Ron,

I might just pick it up on the way home.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Hauling needed


> At 08:22 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>>Humm,
>>
>>I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
>>Coolsprings show.
>>
>>Ed Stoller
>
> See: http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/
>         Dave
> PS, It's Coolspring--NOT Coolsprings!
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 15:29:43 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:29:43 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <529.71cf6fe.3230a5d7@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 3:18:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bee_keeper at earthlink.net writes:

I found  a conversion for the small (2-AA batteries) at Wal-Mart.  Ended
up  putting the old bulb back in; didn't seem NEAR as  bright.


Thanks,
 
Francis


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep  6 15:57:15 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:57:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC 
In-Reply-To: <1194.165.206.180.140.1157544943.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
References: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>
	<1194.165.206.180.140.1157544943.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <ddf291ed10e1ed35fe8ecee89c506a80@chartertn.net>

I want to see pictures of this thing!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  6 16:10:16 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:10:16 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Humour
Message-ID: <002d01c6d209$9ec977e0$3ac10b52@no1>

A certain person known on these groups (called Kim Siddorn) posted the attached tale on the English engine group.
I think it is worth repetition. 8^)
Read the Instructions!

 A friend of mine once built a canoe.  He spent a long time on it and 
it was a work of art. Almost the final phase was to fill both  ends 
with polyurethane expanding foam. 

He duly ordered the bits from Mr Glasplies (an excellent purveyor of 

all things fibreglass) and it arrived in two packs covered with appropriately 

dire warnings about expansion ratios and some very good notes on how to use it.

Unfortunately he had a degree, worse still two of them.  One 
was in Chemistry, so the instructions got thrown away and the 
other in something mathematical because in a few minutes he 
was merrily calculating the volume of his craft to many 
decimal places and the guidelines got binned as well. 
He propped the canoe up on one end, got a huge tin, carefully 
measured the calculated amounts of glop, mixed them and 
quickly poured the mixture in the end of the canoe (The twin 
pack expands very rapidly).

I arrived as he was completing this and I looked in to see 
the end chamber over half full of something Cawdors Witches 
would have been proud of.  Two thing occurred to me, one was 
the label which said in big letters: 
"Caution - expansion ration 50:1" (or something similar) and 
the other that the now empty tins said "approximately enough 
for 20 small craft".  Any comment was drowned out by a sea of 
yellow brown foam suddenly pouring out of the middle of the 
canoe and the end of the canoe bursting open.  My friend 
screamed and leapt at his pride and joy that was knocked to 
the ground as he started trying to bale handfuls of this 
stuff out with his hands. Knocking the craft over allowed the 
end as well. A few seconds later and we had a canoe with two 
exploded ends, a mountain of solid foam about 4ft high 
growing out of the middle, and a chemist firmly embedded up 
to his armpits in it.

Round about this time he discovered the reaction was 
exothermic and his hands and arms were getting very hot 
indeed. Running about in small circles in a confined space 
while glued to the remains of a fairly large canoe proved 
ineffective so he resorted to screaming a bit instead. 
Fortunately a Kukri was to hand so I attacked the foam around 
his hands with some enthusiasm.  The process was hindered by 
the noise he was making and the fact he was trying to escape 
while still attached to the canoe.

Eventually I managed to hack out a lump of foam still 
including most of his arms and hands.  Unfortunately my tears 
of laughter were not helping as they accelerated the foam 
setting. Seeking medical help was obviously out of the 
embarrassment of having to explain his occupation (Chief 
Research Chemist at a major petrochemical organisation) would 
simply never have been lived down. 
Several hours and much acrimony later we had removed 
sufficient foam (and much hair) to allow him to move again. 
However he still looked something like a failed audition for 
Quasimodo with red burns on his arms and expanded blobs of 
foam sticking everywhere. My comment that the scalding simply 
made the hairs the foam was sticking to come out easier was 
not met with the enthusiasm I felt it deserved.


I forgot to add that in retrospect rather unwisely he had set 
out to do this deed in the hallway of his house, it being the 
only place with sufficient headroom for the canoe, achieved 
by poking it up the stairwell.
 
Having extricated him we now were faced with the problem of a 
canoe construction kit embedded in a still gurgling block of 
foam which was now irrevocably bonded to the hall and stairs 
carpet as well as several banister rails and quite a lot of 
wallpaper. At this point his wife and her mother came back 
from shopping......Oh yes - and he had been wearing the 
pullover Mum in law had knitted him for his birthday the week before.





Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep  6 17:22:25 2006
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:22:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Humour
References: <002d01c6d209$9ec977e0$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <002b01c6d213$b1e64e70$336d4b47@mikecomp>

Now that's a GREAT story!!!!!!!

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "atis" <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: "Old Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:10 PM
Subject: [SEL] Humour


>A certain person known on these groups (called Kim Siddorn) posted the 
>attached tale on the English engine group.
> I think it is worth repetition. 8^)
> Read the Instructions!
>
> A friend of mine once built a canoe.  He spent a long time on it and it 
> was a work of art. Almost the final phase was to fill both  ends with 
> polyurethane expanding foam.
> He duly ordered the bits from Mr Glasplies (an excellent purveyor of
> all things fibreglass) and it arrived in two packs covered with 
> appropriately
> dire warnings about expansion ratios and some very good notes on how to 
> use it.
>
> Unfortunately he had a degree, worse still two of them.  One was in 
> Chemistry, so the instructions got thrown away and the other in something 
> mathematical because in a few minutes he was merrily calculating the 
> volume of his craft to many decimal places and the guidelines got binned 
> as well. He propped the canoe up on one end, got a huge tin, carefully 
> measured the calculated amounts of glop, mixed them and quickly poured the 
> mixture in the end of the canoe (The twin pack expands very rapidly).
>
> I arrived as he was completing this and I looked in to see the end chamber 
> over half full of something Cawdors Witches would have been proud of.  Two 
> thing occurred to me, one was the label which said in big letters: 
> "Caution - expansion ration 50:1" (or something similar) and the other 
> that the now empty tins said "approximately enough for 20 small craft". 
> Any comment was drowned out by a sea of yellow brown foam suddenly pouring 
> out of the middle of the canoe and the end of the canoe bursting open.  My 
> friend screamed and leapt at his pride and joy that was knocked to the 
> ground as he started trying to bale handfuls of this stuff out with his 
> hands. Knocking the craft over allowed the end as well. A few seconds 
> later and we had a canoe with two exploded ends, a mountain of solid foam 
> about 4ft high growing out of the middle, and a chemist firmly embedded up 
> to his armpits in it.
>
> Round about this time he discovered the reaction was exothermic and his 
> hands and arms were getting very hot indeed. Running about in small 
> circles in a confined space while glued to the remains of a fairly large 
> canoe proved ineffective so he resorted to screaming a bit instead. 
> Fortunately a Kukri was to hand so I attacked the foam around his hands 
> with some enthusiasm.  The process was hindered by the noise he was making 
> and the fact he was trying to escape while still attached to the canoe.
>
> Eventually I managed to hack out a lump of foam still including most of 
> his arms and hands.  Unfortunately my tears of laughter were not helping 
> as they accelerated the foam setting. Seeking medical help was obviously 
> out of the embarrassment of having to explain his occupation (Chief 
> Research Chemist at a major petrochemical organisation) would simply never 
> have been lived down. Several hours and much acrimony later we had removed 
> sufficient foam (and much hair) to allow him to move again. However he 
> still looked something like a failed audition for Quasimodo with red burns 
> on his arms and expanded blobs of foam sticking everywhere. My comment 
> that the scalding simply made the hairs the foam was sticking to come out 
> easier was not met with the enthusiasm I felt it deserved.
>
>
> I forgot to add that in retrospect rather unwisely he had set out to do 
> this deed in the hallway of his house, it being the only place with 
> sufficient headroom for the canoe, achieved by poking it up the stairwell.
>
> Having extricated him we now were faced with the problem of a canoe 
> construction kit embedded in a still gurgling block of foam which was now 
> irrevocably bonded to the hall and stairs carpet as well as several 
> banister rails and quite a lot of wallpaper. At this point his wife and 
> her mother came back from shopping......Oh yes - and he had been wearing 
> the pullover Mum in law had knitted him for his birthday the week before.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From falcon at telenet.net  Wed Sep  6 17:48:28 2006
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:48:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
In-Reply-To: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
References: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <44FF6C5C.3000102@telenet.net>



FRM8198 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi List,
> Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If so, 
> where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?  Nite Ize 
> makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.  
> 
> Francis  Maciel
> Santa Maria,  California
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
I have 5 of the Nite Ize units. They work OK but you lose the focusing 
ability. They also produce a bluish tinted light, that is more like a 
floodlight. Wal~Mart carries the conversion kits without the rear 
switch, Bass Pro Shops carries the one with the switch. The switch is 
nice BUT you have to remember to leave the lens loose so that the 
internal switch stays on.
If you want a real bright light they are not the thing. For that you 
want the new 1 WATT LED Mini Mag that just came out. They are a bit 
larger but DON'T look in the lens.

If you want a nice conversion for a full size Mag Lite, Mag has a 3 WATT 
LED conversion bulb for 19 bucks. It allows you to focus and REALLY 
light up the world. It works GREAT. I have 4 of them in the lights I use 
for fire duty. They are nice because they don't blow when dropped and 
they REALLY extend the battery life however when the batteries are dead 
the light just goes OUT. Just make sure you get the correct one for the 
light you have. They are NOT universal.

Nite Ize has a cheaper LED universal bulb for 2-6 cell lights but DON'T 
bother with it. It is JUNK and provides less light than dead batteries 
with the normal bulb.


-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.


From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 19:19:25 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:19:25 EDT
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC 
Message-ID: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 4:16:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
johnculp at chartertn.net writes:

I want  to see pictures of this thing!


John,
I believe these are same GM gasoline engines that the Air  Force used in 
their Minuteman transporters.  They used gasoline engines  instead of diesel 
because of availability of gasoline versus diesel fuel in some  of the remote 
launch sites.  The transporter had  3- 4 MPG  rating.  At some of the sites in the 
mid west had to be fueled in route to  the launch area.  If I remember 
correctly, the transporters had a fuel  capacity of 120 gallons.
I don't remember the cubic inch displacement.  However,  12 cylinder was 
actually two 6 cylinder engines in tandem.  At the  beginning of the program, they 
had many drive line/transmission problems.  

Francis



From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 19:24:04 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:24:04 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <37d.a8b56a1.3230dcc4@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 6:17:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
falcon at telenet.net writes:

I have 5  of the Nite Ize units. They work OK but you lose the focusing 
ability.  They also produce a bluish tinted light, that is more like a 
floodlight.  Wal~Mart carries the conversion kits without the rear 
switch, Bass Pro  Shops carries the one with the switch. The switch is 
nice BUT you have to  remember to leave the lens loose so that the 
internal switch stays  on.
If you want a real bright light they are not the thing. For that you  
want the new 1 WATT LED Mini Mag that just came out. They are a bit  
larger but DON'T look in the lens.



Thanks for the friendly suggestion.  

Francis



From asouth at strato.net  Wed Sep  6 19:25:08 2006
From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:25:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
References: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00ae01c6d224$d7283570$2b00a8c0@ARTHUR>

Here it is, 10:25 PM EDT and no one, not even Dave has jumped on poor ole 
George and told him the correct way to "get off the list". Come on, you guys 
are slipping a bit!

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, Florida, USA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "george maattala" <gauto527 at hotmail.com>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list


> please take me off of your list i have over 720 messages in my emil today 
> this is out of control please take me offfffffff!!!!!!!!!!...... 
> aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!....( gauto527 at hotmail.com)
>
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From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 20:25:56 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
In-Reply-To: <015e01c6d1b2$47b4e860$6401a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
Message-ID: <20060907032556.96594.qmail@web31511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Robert Lefever is making my fenders for me. He has been supplying new
fenders for old tractors for several decades and his work is second to
none. I don't recall if he has had an ad in any of the hobby magazines
lately, but if you want to contact him, here is his phone number:
717-548-4131, and his ads say to call between 8:00 am and 11:00 pm EST.
If he has mine done and a set for my friend Kevin's 10-20 Mogul, we are
going to run out to Coolspring and meet him to pick them up. Should be a
good time.
Later,
Joe

--- Dave Ernst <shop at cccomm.net> wrote:

> Who made your fenders?
> 
> Dave E


Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI USA

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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep  6 20:44:44 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:44:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC 
In-Reply-To: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
References: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
Message-ID: <71a3732ff64f86beee079aec9ade3285@chartertn.net>

> I believe these are same GM gasoline engines that the Air  Force used 
> in
> their Minuteman transporters.  They used gasoline engines  instead of 
> diesel
> because of availability of gasoline versus diesel fuel in some  of the 
> remote
> launch sites.  The transporter had  3- 4 MPG  rating.  At some of the 
> sites in the
> mid west had to be fueled in route to  the launch area.  If I remember
> correctly, the transporters had a fuel  capacity of 120 gallons.
> I don't remember the cubic inch displacement.  However,  12 cylinder 
> was
> actually two 6 cylinder engines in tandem.  At the  beginning of the 
> program, they
> had many drive line/transmission problems.

Sounds like a cool engine!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep  6 20:48:53 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:48:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
In-Reply-To: <00ae01c6d224$d7283570$2b00a8c0@ARTHUR>
References: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
	<00ae01c6d224$d7283570$2b00a8c0@ARTHUR>
Message-ID: <545c5d434ebbb814659335359a26456c@chartertn.net>

We're tired, Arthur. At least, I am.

Maybe he'll eventually look at the bottom of one of these messages, and 
a glimmer of recognition will start to flicker dimly beneath his 
beetled brows...

After all, he did go to the 
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel site when he 
signed up to get on this list.

John

On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote:

> Here it is, 10:25 PM EDT and no one, not even Dave has jumped on poor 
> ole George and told him the correct way to "get off the list". Come 
> on, you guys are slipping a bit!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From jmackess at twcny.rr.com  Wed Sep  6 22:21:30 2006
From: jmackess at twcny.rr.com (James Mackessy)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:21:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
References: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000801c6d23d$848f2710$e84acf45@ownerfm3tybt04>

Hi Francis;
     If you're talking about the Mini-Maglite, I got the kit at Lowes. It's
easy to install, and does need the end switch,
gives a nice white lite, but you lose the ability to focus it.
Jim M.
----- Original Message -----
From: <FRM8198 at aol.com>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.


> Hi List,
> Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If so,
> where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?  Nite
Ize
> makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.
>
> Francis  Maciel
> Santa Maria,  California
>
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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Wed Sep  6 22:38:03 2006
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:38:03 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906134613.8696.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004a01c6d23f$c9f9c600$f301a8c0@armstrong>

try this site
http://www.farmcollectorshowdirectory.com/
Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Hauling needed


> Morning Ed.
>  Coolsprings is 10 miles south of the Brookville, PA exit 78, I-80, on 
> route 36.
>  It's a great engine show for this part of the country. Lots of club owned 
> engines and equipment, plud usually a big turnout of displayers. Well 
> worth you efforts to see it. I don't know the dates but someone will.
>  Ron Frost
>
>
> Ed stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  Humm,
>
> I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this
> Coolsprings show.
>
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Prindle"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:26 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
>
>
>> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
>> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
>> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, 
>> and
>> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
>> care of my fenders.
>> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and 
>> visit?
>>
>> Joe Prindle
>> Baraboo, WI USA
>>
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>
>
>
> Ron Frost
> Kersey, PA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4070123&a=30427007&f=0
>
>  http://community.webshots.com/user/ron15846
>
> " Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise "
>
>
>
>
>
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> Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail.
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 23:35:26 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:35:26 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Rick Rowlands
In-Reply-To: <20060906213141.31114.qmail@web52314.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060906213141.31114.qmail@web52314.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609062335l445cdbb9j8bf300122473c76d@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/09/06, Fuller & Johnson <fuller_johnson at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know where Rick has got to?  I can't seem to get in touch with him.
>
> Cheers!  NICK
>

Hasn't he just moved house?

Saw something either on the Lists or on Smokestak in the past week.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 23:48:47 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:48:47 +0100
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC
In-Reply-To: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
References: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609062348y7935dd56we81ce87f9f642bca@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/09/06, FRM8198 at aol.com <FRM8198 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2006 4:16:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> johnculp at chartertn.net writes:
>
> I want  to see pictures of this thing!
>
>
> John,
> I believe these are same GM gasoline engines that the Air  Force used in
> their Minuteman transporters.  They used gasoline engines  instead of diesel
> because of availability of gasoline versus diesel fuel in some  of the remote
> launch sites.  The transporter had  3- 4 MPG  rating.  At some of the sites in the
> mid west had to be fueled in route to  the launch area.  If I remember
> correctly, the transporters had a fuel  capacity of 120 gallons.
> I don't remember the cubic inch displacement.  However,  12 cylinder was
> actually two 6 cylinder engines in tandem.  At the  beginning of the program, they
> had many drive line/transmission problems.
>
> Francis
>

Bit of stuff here:

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/TwinSix.htm

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/V6powered.htm

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Sep  6 23:57:02 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:57:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain/Petter W1
In-Reply-To: <200609061600.k86G04ex022962@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <20060907090193.SM01024@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 06/09/2006, you wrote:
>Message: 8
>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:58:10 +0100
>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>
>
>Hi Jerry, see the pictures on this Ebay page.
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stationary-engine-petter-w1_W0QQitemZ130020874986QQihZ003QQcategoryZ58177QQcmdZViewItem
>Dave Croft
>Warrington
>http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
>http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>

Thanks Dave


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Thu Sep  7 00:24:12 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:24:12 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <57c.4a3a715.3231231c@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 10:16:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jmackess at twcny.rr.com writes:

If  you're talking about the Mini-Maglite, I got the kit at Lowes. It's
easy to  install, and does need the end switch,
gives a nice white lite, but you  lose the ability to focus it.


In a message dated 9/6/2006 9:28:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
segray at mlode.com writes:

I just  happen to see the kits at Wal-Mart the other night. Didn't pay much 
attention  to any details because I was looking for something else at the time. 
I would  imagine all "Wally Worlds" have 'em if one does.
No Lowe's here,  I will check on Wal-Mart.  Thanks for  the information.
 
Francis


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Thu Sep  7 03:49:13 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:49:13 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Plix lighting plant
Message-ID: <000301c6d26b$45971260$25f531cb@ogborneuah38i3>

Does any one know anything about the Plix Lighting Plant ,made in New York 
circa 1928?
Peter Ogborne
Little Grove ,Albany
West Australia
''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
jopeter at omninet.net.au 




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Thu Sep  7 13:03:41 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:03:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609062348y7935dd56we81ce87f9f642bca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
	<6f6025160609062348y7935dd56we81ce87f9f642bca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a4cfaf06a49d9f5b9992d082e90fb124@chartertn.net>

> Bit of stuff here:
>
> http://www.6066gmcguy.org/TwinSix.htm
>
> http://www.6066gmcguy.org/V6powered.htm
>
> Peter

Very cool! Especially the page on repowered applications. I think I'd 
have a time trying to fit that V12 in my Chevette, though. It weighs 
nearly as much as the whole car, Isuzu Diesel and all.

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep  7 13:14:14 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:14:14 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Humour
Message-ID: <c32.25d938e.3231d796@aol.com>


Dave,

What a great story!  How long did it take to get everything out of the house? 

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Sep  7 19:27:01 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:27:01 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Attn; Rick Rowlands
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV9C78A8AF7EEDD0CDC221ABB370@phx.gbl>

  Please contact me off list.

  RickinMt.


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Thu Sep  7 19:57:10 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:57:10 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT....but firearm related
Message-ID: <000501c6d2f2$7e5b2960$d7b731cb@ogborneuah38i3>

Building a replica Springfield percussion pistol from a picture ...Civil war 
era. Can anyone give me the approx wall thickness of the barrel [ round] 
.The bore is .516 ''
Thanks.............
Peter Ogborne
Little Grove ,Albany
West Australia
''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
jopeter at omninet.net.au 




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Thu Sep  7 20:36:25 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:36:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT....but firearm related
In-Reply-To: <000501c6d2f2$7e5b2960$d7b731cb@ogborneuah38i3>
References: <000501c6d2f2$7e5b2960$d7b731cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <deb0aad12a33afa014dc3ef834483801@chartertn.net>

Peter, I've never had one of those. Can you find a picture that show 
the breech from above, with some identifiable scale of reference so you 
can determine the barrel width at the breech?

John

On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:57 PM, peter ogborne wrote:

> Building a replica Springfield percussion pistol from a picture 
> ...Civil war era. Can anyone give me the approx wall thickness of the 
> barrel [ round] .The bore is .516 ''
> Thanks.............


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  8 10:47:46 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:47:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
Message-ID: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>

Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter serving cookies.

John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.

Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696     http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html



Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Fri Sep  8 06:19:10 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:19:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6><000e01c6d094$0f11cd80$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
	<008d01c6d098$2abb9260$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001b01c6d349$61061620$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

Thanks for that Paul.What with the loss of my good friend TED then Steve
Irwin it was bad enough but to top it of an Ozy motor racing icon Peter
Brock was killed today in a rally crash in Western Australia .To many in
Australia he was  admired and very highly regarded.He was one of the
greatest in motor sport here.He was 61 years old and had been racing for 30
years.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Ed what a terrible loss losing Steve Erwin, all of us in America loved
Steve
> and he will be sorely missed. My condolences to you and all of your
> countrymen.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
> > Well said Cam!
> > EDD PAYNE
> > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> > Australia
> > 2852
> > Phone:0263742387
> > edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> > edsengns
> >
>
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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Sat Sep  9 19:46:51 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:46:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>

I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
aluminum flywheel be used for?

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
To: "stationary-engine at atis.net" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo


Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen 
this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I want 
to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter serving 
cookies.

John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the cast 
iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass either. I 
want to save mine to take to them next year.

Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696 
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html



Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  9 19:56:09 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:56:09 +1000
Subject: [SEL] no go
Message-ID: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to me
and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  9 04:34:51 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:34:51 +1000
Subject: [SEL] test
Message-ID: <000801c6d403$f7958700$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>


EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W 
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep  9 13:39:44 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:39:44 +0200
Subject: [SEL] John Robson Help needed
Message-ID: <200609092310562.SM01856@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         I got a mail from a chap in Israel today asking for some help with 
a John Robson engine.

         I've put a page here:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/israel/index.htm>

         Even if you cannot help I think it is worth looking at the page - 
this is a beautiful engine and the pic he sent of it in it's original 
working surroundings is just awesome.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Fri Sep  8 10:01:43 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:01:43 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Help in putting engine pictures to the list's
Message-ID: <009e01c6d368$771badc0$3ac10b52@no1>

While checking the new webshots I discovered it has a new facility for posting pictures.
If you go to  http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/ it will let you copy a picture from your computer to the
program, & this will then give you an address which you can then send to someone or post on a newsgroup.
This is totally free.   You don't even need to join webshots .
I just tried it with a picture & it gave me the address http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002319821167460958
A few adverts but the picture is shown OK.
This can help anyone with no webpage or photo-program.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep  9 13:38:36 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:38:36 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R update-hold thumbs!
Message-ID: <200609092310390.SM01856@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Hold thumbs for me tomorrow. The 1928 Wolseley R is almost ready 
for a test startup.

         For those who missed earlier posts on this engine:

         It is a 6 H.P. Wolseley Type R that followed me home in December 
last year. It had no flywheels when found and being only one of two engines 
of this type (that I know of) in South Africa there was no chance of 
finding a set lying around. I was lucky enough to obtain a set of Lister 
616 spoked flywheels and my friend, Justin Ludewig has made an excellent 
job of making them fit. This will all be documented on a webpage when the 
engine is finished so I will not go into details now. Suffice to say that I 
think that the engine looks a 1000 times better with these spoked flywheels 
than the original Wolseley solid flywheels - he's now a damned handsome bugger.

         In fact Justin has done 99.9% of the restoration of this engine so 
I cannot claim credit. I think he has done an excellent job.

         I'm not going to go into details of the work required and done - 
webpage will follow soon. Once we have it running well them I will start to 
clean it up and paint it as well as make a nice trolley for it.

         I've put a sneak preview pic here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/karoo/9Sept06.jpg>

         The fuel tank & cooling water connections are temporary and I have 
to make a temporary exhaust tomorrow morning just for the startup. The 
grinding marks on the barrel (cylinder) are where we welded up a crack 
caused by frost.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sat Sep  9 02:37:35 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:37:35 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <367.c96537d.3233e55f@aol.com>

Hi List,
Thanks to the input I received from members of the list, I was able  to pick 
up LED conversion kits for three of my MagLites.  Our local WalMart  had them. 
 I was able to get the unit for the 2 - 6 cell replacement LED  which replace 
the original bulb.  This replacement LED  bulb also fits the Gordon 
flashlight which is a knock off  of the MagLite.  The LED unit for the Mini Maglite has 
three LEDs and give  good light.
Again, I offer my thanks to the list for providing me with  excellent data as 
usual.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria,  California




From sewell at oak.cats.ohiou.edu  Sat Sep  9 20:05:35 2006
From: sewell at oak.cats.ohiou.edu (steve sewell)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:05:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060909230140.00ba5b88@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>

Rick: They can do both. He did the aluminum so the mold could be taken off 
while we were still there instead of the longer wait for iron.It was a very 
interesting trip!!
- Steve


At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>
>Rick
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
>To: "stationary-engine at atis.net" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Cc: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:47 PM
>Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
>demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
>below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen 
>this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I 
>want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter 
>serving cookies.
>
>John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the 
>cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass 
>either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.
>
>Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696 
>http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html
>
>
>
>Ed Stoller
>New Fairfield, CT
>http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at atis.net
sewell at ohio.edu



From dmisch13355 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  9 09:58:32 2006
From: dmisch13355 at yahoo.com (don misch)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20060909165832.32781.qmail@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Please unsubscribe me from the SEL mailing list. 
Thank you. DM

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From rustyjnk at ncbb.net  Sat Sep  9 21:29:27 2006
From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (rustyjnk)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:29:27 -0700
Subject: [SEL] no go
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
References: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <450394A7.8090702@ncbb.net>

Ed, I just received your post.Loomis Calfornia. Norm Karde

Edd Payne wrote:

>I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
>test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to me
>and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts.
>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>Australia
>2852
>Phone:0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>edsengns
>
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>
>  
>



From rustyjnk at ncbb.net  Sat Sep  9 21:30:38 2006
From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (rustyjnk)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:30:38 -0700
Subject: [SEL] test
In-Reply-To: <000801c6d403$f7958700$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
References: <000801c6d403$f7958700$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <450394EE.9030702@ncbb.net>

Received  this one in Loomis Ca.. Nkarde

Edd Payne wrote:

>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W 
>Australia
>2852
>Phone:0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>edsengns
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>  
>



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Sun Sep 10 00:07:20 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:07:20 +1000
Subject: [SEL] no go
References: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <003601c6d4a7$c306fd80$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hi Edd
            Yep you are coming through loud and clear .  Cheers Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: [SEL] no go


>I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
> test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to 
> me
> and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
>
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep 10 02:06:58 2006
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:06:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <001201c6d4b8$786c9210$f954693a@morris>

G'Day Ed
Likewise well done to Grandpa's Casting Co for a few very informative hours 
in which I totally enjoyed.
I totally forgot to take ANY pictures at all while listening to John 
describe and show us the total process.

Well done also to Curt for the fist class pattern he had made for the 
flywheel.

And thanks to Leroy, Dave and the others that arranged the visit, another 
highlight of my trip.


Kerry Morris
Lithgow N.S.W  OZ

WEB:  www.members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/

skype ID:   ozengine



> Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
> demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
> below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen 
> this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I 
> want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter 
> serving cookies.
>



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 10 05:22:38 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 08:22:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] John Robson Help needed
References: <200609092310562.SM01856@new.databak.co.za>
Message-ID: <007701c6d4d3$ce8ca6b0$4ad14c0c@D48VHZ61>

Very neat looking machine!!!

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] John Robson Help needed


> Hi Guys,
>         I got a mail from a chap in Israel today asking for some help with 
> a John Robson engine.
>
>         I've put a page here:
> <www.oldengine.org/members/evans/israel/index.htm>
>
>         Even if you cannot help I think it is worth looking at the page - 
> this is a beautiful engine and the pic he sent of it in it's original 
> working surroundings is just awesome.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Sep 10 05:38:36 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:38:36 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <20060910123836.QACW3131.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I hope to see plenty of Oz list members at the Clarendon Classic this coming
weekend. The feature is IHC so I am taking my Cooper badged Stover because
it is still on the trailer after coming home from Macksville. 
See you all there :)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep 10 06:16:15 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:16:15 EDT
Subject: [SEL] no go
Message-ID: <c08.3dc5ed4.32356a1f@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
edsengns at optusnet.com.au writes:

<< I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
 test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to me
 and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts. >>


Maybe someone over there needs to contact Edd and tell him to contact 
Spencer.  He may have the same problem I have with AOL every so often and that is AOL 
will not let my list mail come to me thinking it is some type of spam. Only 
Spencer can straighten it out with them.  Thanks Spencer! 

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep 10 10:23:29 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:23:29 +0100
Subject: [SEL] OT - York Railway Museum visit
Message-ID: <6f6025160609101023i107625f6rf916f723352af730@mail.gmail.com>

Something for the rail enthusiasts:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/YorkMuseum/YorkMenu1.htm

There are 87 picture pages spread over 3 menu pages with thumbnails.

(From the main menu it is the bottom right hand icon)

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 10 13:40:06 2006
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:40:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT - York Railway Museum visit
Message-ID: <410-22006901020406640@earthlink.net>

Very nice!

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
> To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Cc: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Date: 9/10/2006 12:26:18 PM
> Subject: [SEL] OT - York Railway Museum visit
>
> Something for the rail enthusiasts:
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/YorkMuseum/YorkMenu1.htm
>
> There are 87 picture pages spread over 3 menu pages with thumbnails.
>
> (From the main menu it is the bottom right hand icon)
>
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 10 15:24:39 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:24:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Connecticut Show
Message-ID: <003101c6d527$e8235bb0$5ba4f504@Ed>

Our Connecticut Antique Machinery show is coming up 23 and 24 Sept;  http://www.ctamachinery.com/   . Anybody needing a place to stay can contact me.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 


From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun Sep 10 19:30:27 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:30:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>

At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>
>Rick

I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is about 
two weeks!
         Dave 



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 10 19:32:21 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:32:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Another show
Message-ID: <00ad01c6d54a$82babc50$5ba4f504@Ed>

Is there ( or was there ) a show at Zagray Farm  in Colchester, Connecticut this year?

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 


From oiseming at moscow.com  Sun Sep 10 20:04:05 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:04:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: OT - York Railway Museum visit
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609101023i107625f6rf916f723352af730@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200609110304.k8B34LSA005848@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Peter, thank you for posting the pictures.  The museum seems immense.  I'm
impressed with it as well as your outstanding pictorial tour of it.  

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:23 AM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: OT - York Railway Museum visit

Something for the rail enthusiasts:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/YorkMuseum/YorkMenu1.htm

There are 87 picture pages spread over 3 menu pages with thumbnails.

(From the main menu it is the bottom right hand icon)

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel





From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 04:04:43 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:04:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>

If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage over 
me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 1 and have 
to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt again.  The 
only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment was the electric 
company.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>
>>Rick
>
> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
> about two weeks!
>         Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From ELIDAS at aol.com  Mon Sep 11 04:12:12 2006
From: ELIDAS at aol.com (ELIDAS at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:12:12 EDT
Subject: [SEL]Another Connecticut Show
Message-ID: <c3c.2602eba.32369e8c@aol.com>

Tobacco Valley Flywheelers show is this weekend. Rte 154 Haddam Meadows  
State Park.
We have lottsa room so don't be afraid to bring a lot or anything  big.
 
Mike



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 14:28:45 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:28:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>

Rick,  
    I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
somewhat surprised its not.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time 
> advantage over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily 
> since day 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before 
> I can melt again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry 
> experiment was the electric company.
>
> Rick
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>> aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>
>>
>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>> about two weeks!
>>         Dave
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 11 15:34:27 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:27 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R - please vote
Message-ID: <20060912011031.SM01684@new.databak.co.za>

Hi all the SEL Guys,
         I've copied this over from the "oldengine" list. It is about my 
Wolseley Type R
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>

At 12:10 PM 11/09/2006, you wrote: (Kim Siddorn)

>Now that's the restoration I like to see! Fixed the problems, retained as 
>much of the original finish as possible - excellent!
>Regards,
>Kim Siddorn
>Time flies like an arrow
>Fruit flies like a banana

Hi Kim,
         Thanks for the praise.
         I'm in two minds as to what I should do next - my plan was to 
strip it down and repaint but I actually like it as it is now.

         Maybe I should ask the lists to give me a vote. How about it ?

         C'mon guys lets hear from you with some good explanations as to 
why I should go this way or that. Must I strip it down and repaint it or 
should I keep it looking like this.

         My original plan was to build a trolley (transporter to you guys 
living north of Mexico) as I have some good illustrations of what the 
original looked like but I'm now also thinking that maybe a flat steel deck 
covered with wooden floorboards and having removable wheels would also look 
good. This is not an original idea - I saw it on one of your engines - I 
cannot remember exactly whose it was - maybe Rick Strobel ? I think it was 
a Goolds (Goulds) engine. The subject cropped up during a discussion on 
Jacks. He had wheels that just "clipped in" for moving and loading but were 
removed when in position at shows. Looked great standing flat on the ground.
         This would also be good for "anchoring" the engine as I plan on 
using it to drive a 1930's Ransomes  "Moon" Corn Sheller. 
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/letz/>

         Thanks in advance for all the replies I hope to get.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 11 15:53:42 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:53:42 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R
Message-ID: <200609120110718.SM00524@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         The 1928 Wolseley R  6 H.P. is running.
         I've put some stuff on this page - more will be added to later - 
please have a look -thanks
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>
         Sorry for being so brief but I've had a lot of pressure lately and 
am tired - I can hear my bed calling.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 16:41:25 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:41:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>

Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the actual 
electric that I use.

I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar with 
from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with other 
types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired reverb.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
> somewhat surprised its not.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>> over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 1 
>> and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>> again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment was 
>> the electric company.
>>
>> Rick
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>
>>
>>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>> aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>> about two weeks!
>>>         Dave
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 17:26:28 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:26:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>

If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd 
be interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big 
lathe and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it 
would be placed.  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey 
> wrench called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively 
> kills any profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW 
> for the actual electric that I use.
>
> I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was 
> familiar with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right 
> now with other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or 
> oil fired reverb.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
> <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>> Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>> somewhat surprised its not.
>>
>> Tommy Turner
>> Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time 
>>> advantage over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money 
>>> steadily since day 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled 
>>> furnace before I can melt again.  The only ones who made out with my 
>>> little foundry experiment was the electric company.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>
>>>
>>>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would 
>>>>> the aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time 
>>>> is about two weeks!
>>>>         Dave
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 18:01:17 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:01:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil 
engine. It can be seen at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to 
haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the job, 
but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know the 
weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
	Dave
PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure 
is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down under 
can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes all 
three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 18:08:31 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:08:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy> <4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy> <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Rick,
         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be willing 
to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please keep in mind 
that judges are a part of government (the third branch, as I recall.)
         Dave

At 08:26 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd be 
>interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big lathe 
>and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it would be 
>placed.  Thanks.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>>Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>>called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
>>profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>>actual electric that I use.
>>
>>I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>>with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>>other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired reverb.
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>
>>
>>>Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>>somewhat surprised its not.
>>>
>>>Tommy Turner
>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>>If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>>>>over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 
>>>>1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>>>>again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment 
>>>>was the electric company.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>>>>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>>>>about two weeks!
>>>>>         Dave
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>SEL mailing list
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>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
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>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 18:14:33 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:14:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com><003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c6d608$ce1bd210$05e14044@pengy>

I don't think I can sell the unit as I don't technically own the MG set.  I 
don't want to sell it anyways just in case I would need it someday.

The lathe would go to 249 North Water Ave., Sharon, PA 16146.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd be 
> interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big lathe 
> and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it would be 
> placed.  Thanks.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>> Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>> called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
>> profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>> actual electric that I use.
>>
>> I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>> with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>> other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired 
>> reverb.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
>> <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>
>>
>>> Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>> somewhat surprised its not.
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
>>> Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>>>> over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 
>>>> 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>>>> again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment 
>>>> was the electric company.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>>>> aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>>>> about two weeks!
>>>>>         Dave
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 18:37:26 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:37:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy><6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com><003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <00b801c6d60c$00b1ed10$05e14044@pengy>

Isn't that branch called the "Back Door Legislative Branch"?

Dave unless you can do better than $72.58 then its no deal.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> Hi Rick,
>         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be willing 
> to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please keep in mind 
> that judges are a part of government (the third branch, as I recall.)
>         Dave
>
> At 08:26 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>>If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd be 
>>interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big lathe 
>>and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it would be 
>>placed.  Thanks.
>>
>>Tommy Turner
>>Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>>Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>>>called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
>>>profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>>>actual electric that I use.
>>>
>>>I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>>>with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>>>other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired 
>>>reverb.
>>>
>>>Rick
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
>>><lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>>>somewhat surprised its not.
>>>>
>>>>Tommy Turner
>>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>>>>>over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 
>>>>>1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>>>>>again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment 
>>>>>was the electric company.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rick
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>>>>>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>>>>>about two weeks!
>>>>>>         Dave
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
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>
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 19:00:54 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:00:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <450614D6.6090802@scrtc.com>

Yes, the GOOD Branch of Government.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> Hi Rick,
>         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be 
> willing to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please 
> keep in mind that judges are a part of government (the third branch, 
> as I recall.)
>         Dave
>
>



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 19:01:04 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:01:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <00a901c6d608$ce1bd210$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com><003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<00a901c6d608$ce1bd210$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <450614E0.9050808@scrtc.com>

Thanks Rick, I'll forward the info to him so he can work up a quote.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> I don't think I can sell the unit as I don't technically own the MG 
> set.  I don't want to sell it anyways just in case I would need it 
> someday.
>
> The lathe would go to 249 North Water Ave., Sharon, PA 16146.
>
> Rick
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 19:15:50 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:15:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <00b801c6d60c$00b1ed10$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy> <4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy> <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
	<00b801c6d60c$00b1ed10$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911221442.03f9be00@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Rick, Sorry, $69.69 is my best offer.
         Dave

At 09:37 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>Isn't that branch called the "Back Door Legislative Branch"?
>
>Dave unless you can do better than $72.58 then its no deal.
>
>Rick
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>>Hi Rick,
>>         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be 
>> willing to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please keep 
>> in mind that judges are a part of government (the third branch, as I recall.)
>>         Dave
>>
>>At 08:26 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>>>If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd 
>>>be interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big 
>>>lathe and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it 
>>>would be placed.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>Tommy Turner
>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>>Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>>>>called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills 
>>>>any profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>>>>actual electric that I use.
>>>>
>>>>I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>>>>with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>>>>other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired reverb.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>>>>somewhat surprised its not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tommy Turner
>>>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time 
>>>>>>advantage over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money 
>>>>>>steadily since day 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled 
>>>>>>furnace before I can melt again.  The only ones who made out with my 
>>>>>>little foundry experiment was the electric company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would 
>>>>>>>>the aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time 
>>>>>>>is about two weeks!
>>>>>>>         Dave
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
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>
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 11 19:25:39 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:25:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <006101c6d612$beb62000$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

Is the 7k trailer 7k load or 7k gvw?  Engine sure looks heavy!!!!!!!!
My 10k gvw weighs bout 2500 so only 7500 for load; if 7k is gvw I sure
wouldn't wanna try it! 

Lew Best near Waco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Rotigel
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:01 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed

Hi All,
	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral
oil 
engine. It can be seen at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan
to 
haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the
job, 
but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know
the 
weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
	Dave
PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it
sure 
is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down
under 
can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes
all 
three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!

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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 19:26:52 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:26:52 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <45061AEC.2070806@scrtc.com>

Dave,
    I've got an 8 HP Austral on its way from Australia.  I can't help 
you on what it weighs but I know your's is heavier than mine!  Here's 
some photos of it:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009203&a=32298706&f=

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> Hi All,
>     I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral 
> oil engine. It can be seen at: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I 
> plan to haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 
> will do the job, but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. 
> Thus I need to know the weight of this engine. Any help will be 
> appreciated!
>     Dave
> PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it 
> sure is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
> PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down 
> under can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it 
> takes all three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 19:29:06 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:29:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg LOST??????????????
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911221614.03f42d78@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Steve Royster just contacted me. His server is down. In any event he was 
to pick Reg up at the airport tonight. Reg never showed up and upon 
investigation Steve determined that Reg never got on the airplane. So the 
BIG question is--WHERE THE HELL IS REG!  If anyone knows please contact 
Steve at his cell phone at 828.776.4918, or his home phone at 828. 645.5396.
	Dave
PS, Marg, Don't worry. We will take fine care of this National Treasure 
from OZ!
PPS, When someone knows what in the hell has happened to Reg please post it 
to the List so that we all can go to sleep!



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon Sep 11 19:43:57 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:43:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <f43f9c2d55f03c40a83e4c980c8c064d@chartertn.net>

> PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it 
> sure is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!

I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure is BIG!

Inanely yours,

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 19:51:31 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:51:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <006101c6d612$beb62000$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
	<006101c6d612$beb62000$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911223714.03fbe858@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Lew,
         Good GOD damn dog. A 7,000 GVW trailer is a 7,000 GVW trailer! 
What part of 7,000 GVW don't you understand? Please see my first PS on my 
first post.
         Dave
PS, "Engine sure looks heavy!!!!!!!!" I sure thank you for that stupid ass 
inane comment!
PPS, You must be a DEMOCRAT!

At 10:25 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>Is the 7k trailer 7k load or 7k gvw?  Engine sure looks heavy!!!!!!!!
>My 10k gvw weighs bout 2500 so only 7500 for load; if 7k is gvw I sure
>wouldn't wanna try it!
>
>Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>Rotigel
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:01 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
>
>Hi All,
>         I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral
>oil
>engine. It can be seen at:
>http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan
>to
>haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the
>job,
>but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know
>the
>weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
>         Dave
>PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it
>sure
>is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
>PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down
>under
>can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes
>all
>three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!
>
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Sep 11 19:15:54 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:15:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R
Message-ID: <20060911.221707.1220.5.jlb94@juno.com>

Nice job Jerry,

Can't wait to see the rest of the pics.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/        " A diplomat is someone who can disagree
(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Sep 11 20:17:40 2006
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:17:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg LOST??????????????
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911221614.03f42d78@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000801c6d61a$01a93d00$336d4b47@mikecomp>

Ohhhhhh Noooooo!!!!  My brother lost Reg!  Somehow, just like when we were 
kids, I know I am going to get the blame for this..............


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: [SEL] Reg LOST??????????????


> Hi All,
> Steve Royster just contacted me. His server is down. In any event he was 
> to pick Reg up at the airport tonight. Reg never showed up and upon 
> investigation Steve determined that Reg never got on the airplane. So the 
> BIG question is--WHERE THE HELL IS REG!  If anyone knows please contact 
> Steve at his cell phone at 828.776.4918, or his home phone at 828. 
> 645.5396.
> Dave
> PS, Marg, Don't worry. We will take fine care of this National Treasure 
> from OZ!
> PPS, When someone knows what in the hell has happened to Reg please post 
> it to the List so that we all can go to sleep!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Sep 11 20:23:11 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:23:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Dave,
	The 11hp portable should weigh in at about 3 to 3.5 Tonne (6600 to
7700 pounds). You may be a little borderline with weight.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

Hi All,
	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil

engine. It can be seen at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to 
haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the job, 
but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know the 
weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
	Dave
PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure 
is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down under 
can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes all 
three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!




From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 12 03:18:42 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:18:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
	<20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>

Thank you Patrick, That's the information that I needed! I guess that Rob 
was right and I was wrong!  Looks as if a 10,000 GVW trailer is the next 
step. Anyone wanting to see this beast running can do so at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/austral-movie.html Rob tells me that 
he starts it by himself.
         Dave

At 11:23 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>         The 11hp portable should weigh in at about 3 to 3.5 Tonne (6600 to
>7700 pounds). You may be a little borderline with weight.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>Hi All,
>         I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil
>
>engine. It can be seen at:
>http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to
>haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the job,
>but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know the
>weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
>         Dave
>PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure
>is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
>PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down under
>can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes all
>three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 12 03:34:14 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:34:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <f43f9c2d55f03c40a83e4c980c8c064d@chartertn.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
	<f43f9c2d55f03c40a83e4c980c8c064d@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912063331.03f69480@mail.alltel.net>

At 10:43 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>>PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure 
>>is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
>I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure is BIG!
>Inanely yours,
>John Culp

Thank you John, I knew that i could rely on you!
         Dave



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep 12 03:59:14 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:59:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20060912105910.LHHB22583.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

One of our club members owns this lovely 10/11hp engine and easily starts it
on his own... and he is in his 70s.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc02/s02austral10hp1.jpg
Ronaldson-Tippett was not shy of putting metal in the Australs. My 3.5hp
portable weighs in at about 1.25 Tonne.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Thank you Patrick, That's the information that I needed! I guess that Rob 
was right and I was wrong!  Looks as if a 10,000 GVW trailer is the next 
step. Anyone wanting to see this beast running can do so at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/austral-movie.html Rob tells me that 
he starts it by himself.
         Dave





From curt at imc-group.com  Tue Sep 12 04:16:36 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:16:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>	<20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <45069714.3090805@imc-group.com>

Dave,
It sucks when you are wrong. But I have a feel good solution for you. I 
have a 12,000 gvw trailer you can use for the trip. Hell it is enclosed 
and will protect the engine from the elements and will contain anything 
that might happen to fall off on such a long trip. It ought to be 
perfect for the KA to NC haul and as long as you return the trailer 
before Cotton Ginning Days (with the Austral in it of course) I'll be 
happy to lend it to you. Don't both with the pesky details of getting 
the engine from NC to PA. Trivial matters.....all that's important is 
how good that engine will look in MY shed.  :-)
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC
P.S. Congratulations on a very nice engine!

Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Thank you Patrick, That's the information that I needed! I guess that 
> Rob was right and I was wrong!  Looks as if a 10,000 GVW trailer is 
> the next step. Anyone wanting to see this beast running can do so at: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/austral-movie.html Rob tells me 
> that he starts it by himself.
>         Dave
>



From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Tue Sep 12 06:01:23 2006
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:01:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <4506AFA3.2030901@steamengine.com.au>

Ed, You can find a similar process where you will see pictures of the sand moulds being made on my site:
http://www.steamengine.com.au/misc/forge/green-sand/index.html

Paul

Ed stoller wrote:
> Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter serving cookies.
> 
> John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.
> 
> Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696     http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 

-- 

pjp at steamengine.com.au
Emerald, Victoria, Australia
www.steamengine.com.au


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 12 06:00:28 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:00:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <20060912105910.LHHB22583.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060912105910.LHHB22583.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609120858090.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Patrick,

Dave and I had been discussing Australs over the weekend.  We were
wondering what the large rectangular tank was that hangs down between the
frame rails.  Is that the fuel tank; if what's the capacity?  Or is it a
part of the cooling water system?

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Patrick M Livingstone wrote:

> One of our club members owns this lovely 10/11hp engine and easily starts it
> on his own... and he is in his 70s.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc02/s02austral10hp1.jpg
> Ronaldson-Tippett was not shy of putting metal in the Australs. My 3.5hp
> portable weighs in at about 1.25 Tonne.



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep 12 06:36:58 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:36:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <C12C060A.2DA1%rskinner@rustyiron.com>


On 9/12/06 3:18 AM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:

> Rob tells me that he starts it by himself.
>          Dave


Believe it or not, a Cajun can start it by himself in the pouring rain.

Rob








From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 12 06:17:25 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:17:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609120915260.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Dave,

Sounds like congratulations are in order?  8-))  You do realize you may
have totally screwed my Olde Engine Fund?  If I enjoy playing with your
Austral, I may be required to get an oil engine of my own!

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> 	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil
> engine. It can be seen at:
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to
> haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles.



From Vivas1993 at aol.com  Tue Sep 12 07:09:50 2006
From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:09:50 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
Message-ID: <566.56fe542.323819ae@aol.com>

Hey Arnie,
 That's part of the cooling system. The water pump picks the water up  from 
the tank, pushes it through the engine, it then flows through the upright  
cooling tank behind the engine then back into the tank below the  engine.
Here's some pictures of my 8hp Austral  
_http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/vivas/_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/vivas/) 
 
Wow, there will be at least 3 Australs on the east coast :-)
 
 Dwight Vivas
 Matoaca, VA.



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep 12 07:28:07 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:28:07 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609120858090.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060912142803.POJM16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Arnie,
	The big tank that hangs below the engine is the water tank. The fuel
tank is between the rails directly under the engine.
The cooling water is circulated by the water pump and is aided in cooling by
passing over slats in the cooling tower. The exhaust passes through the
cooling tower and aids in cooling by forcing a rush of air through the
tower. Makes for a great exhaust note.
The smaller Australs do not have the water pump & cooling tower setup but a
large tank and thermosyphon cooling.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----
G'day Patrick,

Dave and I had been discussing Australs over the weekend.  We were
wondering what the large rectangular tank was that hangs down between the
frame rails.  Is that the fuel tank; if what's the capacity?  Or is it a
part of the cooling water system?

See ya,  Arnie





From edstoller at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 12 07:43:55 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:43:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<4506AFA3.2030901@steamengine.com.au>
Message-ID: <00ba01c6d679$e041bfb0$88f5f504@Ed>

Thank you Paul,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Pavlinovich" <pjp at steamengine.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> Ed, You can find a similar process where you will see pictures of the sand 
> moulds being made on my site:
> http://www.steamengine.com.au/misc/forge/green-sand/index.html
>
> Paul
>
> Ed stoller wrote:
>> Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
>> demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
>> below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never 
>> seen this before and was too busy watching and listening to take 
>> pictures. I want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand 
>> daughter serving cookies.
>>
>> John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the 
>> cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass 
>> either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.
>>
>> Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696 
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed Stoller
>> New Fairfield, CT
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> -- 
>
> pjp at steamengine.com.au
> Emerald, Victoria, Australia
> www.steamengine.com.au
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 12 07:16:22 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] smee - Reggie's Found
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609121007440.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Mike,  Looks like the tricky Cloistered Oyster will have trouble
blaming THIS one on you.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Rumor is that Reggie is gonna hitch-hike on the next leg of his trip.
8-))

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:32:26 -0400
From: Steve Royster <Steve at bassandroyster.com>
To: STB440 at aol.com
Cc: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: smee

Hi mates. Keith and Connie got me to Springfield Airport at 11:30 am Sunday.
Dropped me off and left. Thats when it all started!!

My bag was too heavy! (Stuff from Keith) so I loaded some into the red
holdall. Checked in bags and sat!!! At 5:30 the plane finally loaded and
took off for Chicago.On arrival, TOTAL chaos! The weather was rain so all
flights were stuffed re times. The flight I was booked on was cancelled.
They re-booked me for the next day after standing in a looong queue for two
hours. Teamed with another traveller and we got rooms at a Motel. Free trip
from airport. Returned to airport and handed new ticket. Ha! The flight is
cancelled!! Got re-booked on another set of flights. Delayed!!! Delayed!!
Cancelled!!! Re-booked yet again on another airline this time. Delayed!!

Finally left Chicago at 7:15 pm.Via Charlotte instead of Cincinnati.
Arrived at Asheville at 12:15 am Tues. Phoned Steve and he came and got me.
I was stuffed! Also, my pills are in my baggage. Baggage? What baggage! Yup,
they are as I write, lost!! Waiting for the airlines to find em. (The
injections came with me as hand luggage. Never had room for the pills as
well. Never expected this)

Its now just after 10 am Tues and I am in Steve's office at work. He is in
a meeting.
So thats why you aint heard from me. I have 'Airport bum' and aint happy
with that part of the trip.

Ok, thats the news so far.  More later.  Reg.


From swebre at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 12 12:15:39 2006
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:15:39 +0000
Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <200609121600.k8CG041Q014368@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3840D1D1A4CEAC6AA7E70DB2B0@phx.gbl>


>Believe it or not, a Cajun can start it by himself in the pouring rain.
>
>Rob

Amazing but true.   However, it wasn't raining that hard....at least not by 
Louisiana standards.

-Steve-

PS - It's a beaut!




From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep 12 13:55:15 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:55:15 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
Message-ID: <453.5c95908.323878b3@aol.com>



Dave,

Great looking engine!  Have a safe trip home with it! 

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 12 16:55:45 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:55:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling from Coolspring to WI
Message-ID: <20060912235545.38788.qmail@web31510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I will be going to Coolspring, PA for their swap meet in October and will
be able to haul items either direction. If you have something that needs a
ride, get in touch with me. I can also stash an item or two in the shed
until next spring, if that helps.
Thanks,
Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI
off list to:jprindle at centurytel dot net
cell 608-434-3399

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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 12 18:12:21 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:12:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <453.5c95908.323878b3@aol.com>
References: <453.5c95908.323878b3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912205206.04363968@mail.alltel.net>


>Dave,
>Great looking engine!  Have a safe trip home with it!
>Tom Schmutz

Hi Tom,
          Looks as if this whole deal is coming together. Jake Faith is 
buying my 15 HP Domestic, My wife is telling me "Go for it' and a friend is 
loaning me his 10,000 GVW trailer for the 5,000+ mile trip to KA to pick 
this heavy bastard up! Additionally, I have a line on a 10,000 GVW trailer 
here in PA for around $3,400.00 and figure that another $500.00 will buy an 
appropriate winch to load the damn thing. Further Rob tells me that any 
damn fool (even a Cajun) can start it--so what the hell, I think I would be 
a damn fool to pass this one up.
         Dave 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep 12 19:58:21 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:58:21 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Another R&V
Message-ID: <20060913025816.HMBM16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

As part of my ongoing effort to corner the market on R&Vs in Oz, another has
joined the collection. 
This one has been simmering away for about 3-4 years but finally came my
way. I had to get it shipped down from Nth Queensland as I did not really
feel like a 4000km round trip to pick it up (I am getting wimpy in my old
age).
The engine is a 4hp R Line engine and is in very good and fairly complete
condition. It will make a nice companion to the 4hp L Line engine (which is
getting closer to being restored) and of course all the other R&Vs.
Pics at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rv4hprline.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Wed Sep 13 01:54:47 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:54:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone big end casting
Message-ID: <20060913085441.XQUL16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Jumping from an American engine to an English one. 
Some more progress on my 4hp Blackstone with the casting of the big end
bearing. It came up very well:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06091321.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06091322.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06091323.JPG
Now it just needs to be machined.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Wed Sep 13 03:44:13 2006
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:44:13 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Hauling from Coolspring to WI
Message-ID: <091320061044.12547.4507E0FC000F243100003103219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Joe,
I could use some assist in getting an engine out to Cool Springs.  It will be 
crated and be going to Nev Beaty in the UK via Lee Pederson.  When is the best 
time of day to give you a phone call?
regards,
Curt Andree


> I will be going to Coolspring, PA for their swap meet in October and will
> be able to haul items either direction. If you have something that needs a
> ride, get in touch with me. I can also stash an item or two in the shed
> until next spring, if that helps.
> Thanks,
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI
> off list to:jprindle at centurytel dot net
> cell 608-434-3399
> 
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Wed Sep 13 04:13:36 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:13:36 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 12 Famous
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV466360360977BA3A580E1BB280@phx.gbl>

  Howdy all;
Well we found a 12 hp. tank??/screen cooled with sub-base..no truck(s). 
Wondering if anyone out there would please look up and furnish  the weight 
on this puppy.

  I need a bigger trailer <vbg>

Tia,
RickinMt. 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 13 04:48:01 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:48:01 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
Message-ID: <3bf.abef373.323949f1@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/12/2006 9:26:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rotigel at alltel.net writes:

<<  I think I would be 
 a damn fool to pass this one up. >>


We already know that Dave!

Lets see:  I have a line on a 10,000 GVW trailer 
here in PA for around $3,400.00 and figure that another $500.00 for winch, 
title, license, insurance, expense of round trip, cost of engine, cost of gift 
for wife to keep peace, etc.  Sounds like one of those firewood cutting expense 
stories.

Go for it!!

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 13 04:53:43 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:53:43 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 12 Famous
Message-ID: <3a9.833c9d4.32394b47@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/13/2006 7:26:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes:

<< Well we found a 12 hp. tank??/screen cooled with sub-base..no truck(s). 
 Wondering if anyone out there would please look up and furnish  the weight 
 on this puppy. >>

Rick,

Questions like this immediately make me think of John Hammink.  He would have 
a quick answer for you being a walking-talking encyclopedia for International 
Harvester
information.

A great engine you have coming.


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 13 09:38:06 2006
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:38:06 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Air Cooled Olds
Message-ID: <BAY105-F16CB84D60D7DB39767FA58C8280@phx.gbl>

Hi Everyone,

I went and looked at an engine to possibly purchase and when I first saw it 
I said to myself it is an air cooled Ideal. It looked just like the engine 
pictured here:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933509&f=0
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933510&f=0
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933511&f=0
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933512&f=0

The only thing that threw me is there is a small brass tag rivited to the 
crankguard that says Olds with a serial number. Did Olds make an air cooled 
engine that looks just like the Ideal pictured above?

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA




From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 13 10:24:10 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:24:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Air Cooled Olds
References: <BAY105-F16CB84D60D7DB39767FA58C8280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000301c6d759$6e4589b0$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Tonneberger" <flywheelin at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: [SEL] Air Cooled Olds


> Hi Everyone,
> I went and looked at an engine to possibly purchase and when I first saw it 
> I said to myself it is an air cooled Ideal. It looked just like the engine 
> pictured here:
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933509&f=0
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933510&f=0
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933511&f=0
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933512&f=0
> The only thing that threw me is there is a small brass tag rivited to the 
> crankguard that says Olds with a serial number. Did Olds make an air cooled 
> engine that looks just like the Ideal pictured above?
> Luke Tonneberger
> Rockford, Michigan
> USA

Hi Luke, this is a subject I know a bit about as I tried to buy one for 10 years
only to have the owner sell to someone else when I forget to ask the 10th time.
See page 362 in the Big Yellow Bible  (Vol 1) The first entry does mention R E Olds.
This engine is the successor of the Ideal Engine. BYB pages 238/239.
I hope this helps you.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Wed Sep 13 16:05:58 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:05:58 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>

Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY 
LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.


RickinMt. 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Wed Sep 13 20:38:42 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:38:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> It Lives
Message-ID: <20060914033837.YYHJ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I finally had some time to play with the new 4hp R&V. I could not get any
life out of the low-tension Wizard so I reconnected the slightly wild high
tension modification. I poured some fuel down the throat and the old girl
burst to life, first pull :)
I now have to reconnect and replace the fuel lines and I can give it a good
run.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed Sep 13 18:34:02 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:34:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060913213114.046db0a0@mail.alltel.net>

At 07:05 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:
>Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY
>LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.
>RickinMt.

Hi Rick, Rick Rowlands can be contacted at: "Rick Rowlands" 
<jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
         Dave 



From wackyvorlon at gmail.com  Wed Sep 13 23:19:03 2006
From: wackyvorlon at gmail.com (Paul Anderson)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:19:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9e7fa74a0609132319t3d3396f1gcebf9717a246bedd@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/13/06, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
> Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY
> LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.
>
>
Shoot, ain't nothing like a clothesline on the front lawn....


-- 
Paul Anderson
VE3HOP
wackyvorlon at gmail.com
"I'll bet my drunken cat on that!"


From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Thu Sep 14 04:12:02 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:12:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
References: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005001c6d7ee$9b28abc0$05e14044@pengy>

Rick,

Sorry for not returning the casting sooner.  It will be going out next time 
I am in Sharon, probably tommorrow or Saturday.  I'll include the pattern 
letters that I bought for the patent date.


Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "sel" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry


> Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY 
> LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.
>
>
> RickinMt.
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From oldironnut at alltel.net  Thu Sep 14 05:28:24 2006
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:28:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT:  Attention Roger Seefeldt
In-Reply-To: <20060914033837.YYHJ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060914033837.YYHJ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <p06230900c12efac6b56f@[172.21.24.99]>

Sorry for the OT message but I don't know Roger's email address. 
Roger,  Lincoln put your pen and pencil in US Priority Mail today so 
you should see it early next week.

Take care,
Mike
-- 
_____________________
Mike Tucker
Midway, Kentucky, USA
_____________________


From old_iron at msn.com  Thu Sep 14 10:45:43 2006
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:45:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> RE: Baraboo - CD Lable Burning
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609061408520.93340@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F28278699A28370B8BB2D66E7290@phx.gbl>

I use a new process called Light Scribe that came with my new HP PC back in 
November.  I used this on the CD I did for Reggie, and he thought it was 
really nice.  The really great part is that there is no PAPER LABEL.  You 
need the Light Scribe hard ware to use it, but it comes with the software, 
if you want to add one of these to your existing PC the cost is about $50 
from Best Buy.  You can save this amount very quickly in the cost of labels 
and ink.  The special CD's and DVD's are not any more expensive than the 
plan ones you have to put labels on.

Bill loves this process, since he has a CD player in his truck that does not 
have a tray, because he no longer has to worry about the label coming off of 
his compilations I make for him from CD's we get at Tower records.  I like 
to make a copy and then put the original CD away, I never sell them or give 
them away so I am not breaking any copy write laws.

If you are really interested in more information here is the website
http://www.lightscribe.com/

Lost my job today, so if any one knows of a postion cleaning toilets or 
anything else, please contact me off list.

XOXOX
Peg Pfeiffer

>From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>To: old_iron at msn.com
>Subject: Baraboo - CD Lable Burning
>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:11:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Hi Peg,
>
>At Baraboo you were talking about some slick software that would burn
>labels onto special "clean back" CDs.
>
>Any chance you could could pass that info along to me (or to the entire
>list)?  It sounds pretty useful.
>
>See ya,  Arnie




From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Fri Sep 15 11:27:53 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:27:53 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Third Southwest Regional Hot Air Engine Meet
Message-ID: <C1303EB9.2EF3%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

G?day folks,
I?m sending you this email because of your interest in hot air engines.

In 2001, Lowell Wagner and Buster Brown hosted the First Southwest Regional
Hot Air Engine Meet in conjunction with the Arizona Flywheelers? show in
Cottonwood, Arizona.  It was a magnificent success, with participants from
around the globe.  They repeated their act in 2005, again assembling a
stunning collection of hot air engines and enthusiasts.

The next meet will be held at a new venue.  It will be held in Tulare,
California, in conjunction with the California Antique Farm Equipment Show.
The event will be April 21-22, 2007.  We think this next show will be bigger
and better than ever, and hope that you will be able to join us.

For the latest information, you can visit our web page at
http://www.rustyiron.com/hotairshow

Mark your calendars now.
Rob

  








From curt at imc-group.com  Mon Sep 18 09:35:16 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:35:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
Message-ID: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>

On occation we all have those weekends where everything falls in place 
and we get done what we wanted to.
Saturday morning I was up at the crack of dawn and bush hogging into the 
woods behind our 2 lots and 1 neighbor down from us and 3 above us. 
Looks good!
This was also the annual weekend to do the mow, thatch, aerate, seed, 
fertilize, and hay routine. Got that done too. Had help this year as 
Devin was ready to work on his project!
He was ready to put up his blacksmith roof. We spent about an hour 
Saturday evening getting the poles up and level, and then about 3 hours 
Sunday afternoon, putting the building up. We ran out of daylight, so a 
little of it will have to be finished this afternoon.
Here is the link to Devin's blacksmith page. Go down just a little to 
the 9/18/06 update:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.html>

Hope you enjoy.....
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep 18 09:56:36 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:56:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
References: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609181252560.4821@vegeta.city-net.com>

Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
the Holland engine that you'd acquired.  You did see the GEM cover, right?

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Smithing shed is looking good!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Curt wrote:

> On occation we all have those weekends where everything falls in place
> and we get done what we wanted to.
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.html>



From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 18 12:01:06 2006
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609181252560.4821@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060918190106.49179.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your voice again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me in Japan?  Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.  Bill Young
   wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp

Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
  Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
the Holland engine that you'd acquired. You did see the GEM cover, right?




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 12:37:36 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:37:36 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Jumbled viewing/downloads from Oldengine.org
Message-ID: <6f6025160609181237y6a3ef5e1y54af8023d58bbf8c@mail.gmail.com>

A number of occurences have been reported to me of incorrect downloads
or page views from people with websites on Oldengine.org. I have also
had this happen to my own pages when checking new material that has
been uploaded.

It seems that at peak times in the US there is a problem with the
system handling the files, and it gets itself 'confused'. Normally it
can be cleared by reloading the page using the 'Reload' button on your
browser. I have had a variety of wrong pictures show up, some nice,
some wierd :-))

I would like to know if this is confined to just a few users or if it
is a more widespread problem, so we can go back to Jim and see if he
can sort it out with the engineering folks who look after the
hardware.

Replies off-list please, either to listerdiesel at gmail.com or to
diesel at easynet.co.uk

Thanks,

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon Sep 18 13:07:48 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:07:48 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California show.
Message-ID: <20060918.130749.1888.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
This past Sunday my local club W.A.P.A. (Western Antique Power
Associates) Was invited to participate in a fund raiser for the Rose
Parade float, by the city of South Pasadena.  The main event was a car
show with 300 to 400 fantastic cars.  We were located right on the street
in the middle of all the action.  The crowd was huge with lots of people
asking good questions about our engines.  Weather was perfect, so it was
a wonderful day.  A few pictures at:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32304088&f=0

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep 18 13:06:52 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:06:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <20060918190106.49179.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060918190106.49179.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609181600030.4821@vegeta.city-net.com>

Konichiwa Young-san,

The last couple of trips to Korea had very tight schedules leaving no time
for a stopover in Tokyo.  In the next couple of years I'm hoping that
we'll be having technical exchange meetings that will have less schedule
pressure.

Have you had your 22-1/2 hp Bessemer running in Japan?  How has that been
received?

Sayonara,  Arnie

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, William Young wrote:

> Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your
> voice again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me
> in Japan?  Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.
> Bill Young
> wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp


From oiseming at moscow.com  Mon Sep 18 14:21:41 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:21:41 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <200609182122.k8ILLrJt050355@mail-gw.fsr.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Curt
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:35 AM
To: SEL; SEL (Oldengine.org)
Subject: Good weekend!

Snip

Here is the link to Devin's blacksmith page. Go down just a little to 
the 9/18/06 update:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.
html>

Hope you enjoy.....
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

~~~~~~~~

Indeed, I enjoyed, Curt.  Thank you for posting the link.  

Devin will have a first-class blacksmith shop, thanks to his devoted dad.

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   






From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Sep 18 15:08:43 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:08:43 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
Message-ID: <37d.b1bf72b.324072eb@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/18/2006 12:56:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
curt at imc-group.com writes:

<< Devin was ready to work on his project!
 He was ready to put up his blacksmith roof.  >>


Curt,

Show Devin the photo of my anvils.  The last on left is called a cone anvil 
used to make rings of various sizes, like those on wagon wheels for example.  I 
need an anvil roof too!

http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/mvc-007s.jpg

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 18 15:52:37 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:52:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
References: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185018.02d0b750@mail.alltel.net>

Looks GREAT Devin! Once the ridge cap is on you can set up your shop! Can 
you bring your forge and tools to Cotton Ginning? I'd like to see you 
turning steel into "things!"
         Dave

At 12:35 PM 9/18/2006, you wrote:
>On occation we all have those weekends where everything falls in place and 
>we get done what we wanted to.
>Saturday morning I was up at the crack of dawn and bush hogging into the 
>woods behind our 2 lots and 1 neighbor down from us and 3 above us. Looks good!
>This was also the annual weekend to do the mow, thatch, aerate, seed, 
>fertilize, and hay routine. Got that done too. Had help this year as Devin 
>was ready to work on his project!
>He was ready to put up his blacksmith roof. We spent about an hour 
>Saturday evening getting the poles up and level, and then about 3 hours 
>Sunday afternoon, putting the building up. We ran out of daylight, so a 
>little of it will have to be finished this afternoon.
>Here is the link to Devin's blacksmith page. Go down just a little to the 
>9/18/06 update:
><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.html>
>
>Hope you enjoy.....
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 18 16:27:02 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:27:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Well Jake came today to pick up my 15 HP Domestic (See: 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/15%20HP%20Domestic/15hpdomestic.html) 
and pay me for it. It was tough watching it go up the drive, but I know 
it's got a good home and now I have ALMOST enough money in my pocket to buy 
the 11 HP Austral from Rob and Kelley! See: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/index.html (Given the OUTRAGEOUS price 
Rob is getting for the engine I sure hope that [at least] he is taking 
Kelley to a nice bed and breakfast several times--but I digress!)
	On Wed. morning (the 20th) I'll pull out at sparrow's fart (or before) and 
head for Philadelphia TN where I'll pick up a 10,000 GVW trailer (like this 
one--see: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300026734712&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 
) That's a 526 mile trip. After picking up the trailer I'll head west on RT 
40 for about 2,038 miles and then merge onto CA 60. At that point I'll be 
about an hour from Kelley and Rob's place. I plan to get to their place by 
10:00 (or so) on Sunday! Reg will be there, and that's good because Rob 
tells me that we will need strong backs and weak minds for loading the 
Austral on my trailer! In all the trip out will be 2,699 miles.
	I'll leave Rob and Kelley on Monday with the Austral in tow and arrive 
back in Greensburg on Thurs, the 28th. The trip home will be a lot easier, 
for it's only 2,444 miles! Wish me luck. I'm hoping to keep the dirty side 
of my truck down the whole way. If I don't make it back alive and you are 
interested in any of my engines (see: 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) please contact Arnie. 
He will be handling the sale for my wife!
	Dave



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon Sep 18 18:05:34 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:05:34 -0700
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <C134906E.305D%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

If I don't make it back alive and you are
interested please contact Arnie.
He will be handling the sale of my wife!
>  
> 
> Arnie, 
> In the event that Dave?s demise is AFTER he picks up the Austral (and forks
> over a tall stack of Benjamins), I?ll be in a strong cash position and very
> interested in attending the auction.

     
 
     Rob Skinner  
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?   562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com   ?   http://www.rustyiron.com









From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 18 18:42:12 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:42:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <450F4AF4.8010607@scrtc.com>

Dave,
    Should I go on and put in a bid with Arnie now for the 20 HP Famous 
"just in case"?  I would hate for a grieving friend to have to deal with 
this sort of thing.  I'll just go on and drop a $500 check in the mail 
to Arnie as payment for it.  BTW, if you are taking the KY route to get 
your trailer, we might arrange for one of our local "Smoky's" to put you 
up for a while in one of our local county run "hotels".  I'm sure a 20 
HP Famous would be sufficient bond....... maybe enough to pay the fine 
too!  Be careful and have a safe and enjoyable trip. 

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



>  If I don't make it back alive and you are interested in any of my 
> engines (see: http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) 
> please contact Arnie. He will be handling the sale for my wife!
>     Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 23:36:49 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:36:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609182336n74f9dd00ra5f569fbfb289c1a@mail.gmail.com>

Take care, have a safe trip!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Tue Sep 19 05:47:48 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:47:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List! 
Message-ID: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>

Ten years ago several members of this Stationary Engine List met in Youngstown, Ohio to undertake the removal of a large stationary steam engine.  Dave Rotigel, Arnie Fero, Matt Picaro, Craig Prucha, Bill Pfeiffer, DJ Rotigel, Rick Monk and myself made up what we have called the "Wrecking Crew".

The engine that we successfully removed has sat in pieces until yesterday when 250 tons of 93 year old iron was put back together in her new home.  

http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG

More Photos here:

http://community.webshots.com/album/554214728mqgcLZ

The engine is a 34" x 68" x 60" cross compound rolling mill engine of 4,000 HP.  The crankshaft hasn't been set into the bearings yet and the flywheel also is not together yet. 

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Foundation


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 19 05:49:37 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:49:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185018.02d0b750@mail.alltel.net>
References: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060918185018.02d0b750@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190848040.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Dave & Devin,

THAT is a great idea!!  Smiths always attract spectators, but a young man
making the anvil ring will be a super draw.

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Looks GREAT Devin! Once the ridge cap is on you can set up your shop! Can
> you bring your forge and tools to Cotton Ginning? I'd like to see you
> turning steel into "things!"



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 19 06:03:43 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:03:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190859030.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Dave,

OK, if you turn room temperature, I'll handle things on this end.
I can certainly work up good descriptions of the engines.  However I think
I'll need to spend the weekend at your place to "experience" Jennie so
that I can work up an accurate description for the sale bill.  8->>

Safe journey!!  Keep all the wheels on!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> If I don't make it back alive and you are
> interested in any of my engines (see:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) please contact Arnie.
> He will be handling the sale of my wife!


From edurand at iglou.com  Tue Sep 19 07:45:08 2006
From: edurand at iglou.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:45:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEMFELAA.edurand@iglou.com>

Dave:

AND she'll probably be dancing with glee at being able to get rid of all that "junk".      :-)

Take care - Elden
http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Dave
> Rotigel
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 06:27 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] The Plan
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 	Well Jake came today to pick up my 15 HP 
> Domestic ............
>
>................Wish me luck. I'm hoping to keep the dirty side 
>of my truck down the whole way. If I don't make it back alive and you are 
>interested in any of my engines.    please contact Arnie. 
>He will be handling the sale for my wife!
>	Dave




From FRM8198 at aol.com  Tue Sep 19 06:38:23 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:38:23 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Jacobs Chuck Repair Data (OT)
Message-ID: <386.c0854b9.32414ccf@aol.com>

Hi List,
As a result of a Jacobs chuck malfunction, I had to disassemble one  in order 
to repair it.  I found the following site which helped teach me  how to take 
the chuck apart and most important - how to put it back  together.
 
_    http://www.jacobschuck.com/support.asp_ 
(http://www.jacobschuck.com/support.asp)  
 
After cleaning the Jacobs chuck internal parts, lubricating  the jaws and 
split ring, and reassembling unit, it works very smooth.  The  hard part was that 
it had to repaired without removing the chuck from the drill  motor.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria, Ca




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep 19 07:12:28 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:12:28 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609190712i609aa67ai5243d1eb7e8acc32@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/09/06, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>
> Rick Rowlands
> Tod Engine Foundation

Rick:

I'm getting "Page Cannot Be Found" on the first url, second set look OK.

Well done!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Sep 19 08:12:16 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:12:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Border Bob Update
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609182336n74f9dd00ra5f569fbfb289c1a@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
	<6f6025160609182336n74f9dd00ra5f569fbfb289c1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060919105805.02f32390@pop3.wcoil.com>


Hi All, See the latest from Sheila below! The best time to call and visit 
with Bob is between 4:30 -8:30 PM Theres is no rehab work done during this 
time. Bob has some holes in his memory and short term mem is still sketchy. 
He may know you when you call he may not.  He had been recalling events 
that never happened like visits to Australia and people that Bob said 
visited that never did or remembered people who didn't actually visit that 
did. But it is getting better.
Visits in person have to work around the rehab schedule.
  If you get a chance call.                  THANK YOU,  Mark

>Bob is in Parkwood Phone # is 519-685-4292 ext 43388 visiting hrs are 11-830.
>  I am getting to take him home for the weekend next week.
>   Sheila




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep 19 11:42:55 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:42:55 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <200609191600.k8JG05k1011347@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060919204044.00ab2e78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
>From: William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Good weekend!
>
>Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your voice 
>again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me in 
>Japan?  Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.  Bill Young
>    wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp
>
>Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>   Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
>the Holland engine that you'd acquired. You did see the GEM cover, right?


Hello Oom Bill-san
         Good to see you on the list - I trust you are well. Have not heard 
from you for quite a while.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

---
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 12:16:22 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:16:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060919204044.00ab2e78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00a401c6dc20$18411360$240110ac@FAMILY>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15


> Message: 3
>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Good weekend!
>>
>>Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your voice 
>>again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me in Japan? 
>>Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.  Bill Young
>>    wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp
>>
>>Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>>   Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
>>the Holland engine that you'd acquired. You did see the GEM cover, right?
>
>
> Hello Oom Bill-san
>         Good to see you on the list - I trust you are well. Have not heard 
> from you for quite a while.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
> ---
> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 11:54:21 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:54:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <008f01c6dc1d$052f3520$240110ac@FAMILY>

Dave take a lot of pictures of the trip out, the loading, and the return 
trip and then share them with all of us less fortunate ones when you return. 
Have a safe and enjoyable trip Dave, we will anxiously await your return.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: [SEL] The Plan


> Hi All,
> Well Jake came today to pick up my 15 HP Domestic (See: 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/15%20HP%20Domestic/15hpdomestic.html) 
> and pay me for it. It was tough watching it go up the drive, but I know 
> it's got a good home and now I have ALMOST enough money in my pocket to 
> buy the 11 HP Austral from Rob and Kelley! See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/index.html (Given the OUTRAGEOUS 
> price 




From edstoller at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 19 14:49:16 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:49:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL]Another Connecticut Show
References: <c3c.2602eba.32369e8c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c6dc35$751c6390$61b6f504@Ed>

Thanks Mike,

We enjoyed the show and you were busy making it happen. Parking was free and 
so was the entrance, so I joined  to support the club and got on the mailing 
list.

I picked up a flier for the Zagray Homestead, Colchester CT show and auction 
coming up on Oct 7 and 8. This is the Quinebaug Valley Engineers Assn. Fall 
show. They did not include an email address or website on the flier. My old 
link to them does not work, so I was out of touch with them. I hope to go 
there also on Saturday.

Our club show is this coming weekend in Kent, CT.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ELIDAS at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL]Another Connecticut Show


> Tobacco Valley Flywheelers show is this weekend. Rte 154 Haddam Meadows
> State Park.
> We have lottsa room so don't be afraid to bring a lot or anything  big.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 12:04:03 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:04:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
Message-ID: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>

Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 19 14:59:02 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:59:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609191756430.43461@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Paul,

Lemmie guess...  Wet road, too fast, lost control, rollover through the
weeds?  Am I close?  Looks like the kid was lucky.

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Guess #2.  They totaled your truck?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Paul Maples wrote:

> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
> pain other than this they walked away from it.



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 15:37:17 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:37:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
Message-ID: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Maples 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul





From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep 19 16:00:42 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:00:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <C135C4AA.30D5%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

On 9/19/06 12:04 PM, "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived
> with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.
> 
        Yikes.  I?ll bet there?s a physics lesson in there somewhere.

     
 
     Rob Skinner  
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?   562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com   ?   http://www.rustyiron.com






From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Sep 19 16:08:26 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:08:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060919190750.0305a0f0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Just curious as to what their excuse was for the wreck?    Mark

At 03:04 PM 9/19/06, you wrote:
>Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the 
>old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday 
>evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could 
>spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned 
>from a previous engine trip:
>
>http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
>
>
>Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: 
>Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button
>
>
>http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>
>He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain 
>other than this they walked away from it.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
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454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

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Parts lists available on request.

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them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From clemsweller at etczone.com  Tue Sep 19 16:33:56 2006
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:33:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000c01c6dc44$136e4b40$fc19b840@chuckvmzoexd2q>

Looks like a lucky young man

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Maples
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:37 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Maples 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul
the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last
Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so
he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just
returned from a previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13,
2006: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul



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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 19 17:02:04 2006
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <20060920000204.49185.qmail@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Come on now, Paul.
   
  I have seen pictures of those fine toys you have made,,,,
  You can fix that truck.  Think of it as one little project at a time.
   
  OR

  Since the rear axle is loose,,,,,
  This would be a great time to build a Papercrete mixer.  8>))
  http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/papercrete.htm
   
  Looks to me like it was a good thing that you loaned your truck instead of a smaller car.
  Also looks like your grandson needs a couple driving lessons.  The wheels need to stay down at all times, even while the truck is flying.
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
  U.S. of A.
   
  
Paul Maples <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:


  http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
  


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
  

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul

 			
---------------------------------
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 19 17:48:03 2006
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:48:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
Message-ID: <410-2200693200483875@earthlink.net>

Arnie, don't you have to be traveling with Dave in order for something to
go wrong?

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 9/19/2006 8:58:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] The Plan
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> OK, if you turn room temperature, I'll handle things on this end.
> I can certainly work up good descriptions of the engines.  However I think
> I'll need to spend the weekend at your place to "experience" Jennie so
> that I can work up an accurate description for the sale bill.  8->>
>
> Safe journey!!  Keep all the wheels on!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>
> > If I don't make it back alive and you are
> > interested in any of my engines (see:
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) please contact
Arnie.
> > He will be handling the sale of my wife!
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>
>
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From driggars at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 19 18:21:48 2006
From: driggars at earthlink.net (Clint D)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:21:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <451097AC.3080604@earthlink.net>

Paul

glad to hear all was OK as far as injuries. Now, what did they run into? 
or what hit them?

Clint


Paul Maples wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Paul Maples 
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:04 PM
> Subject: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
>
>
> Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:
>
> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
>
>
> Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: 
>
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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>   


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Tue Sep 19 18:45:24 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:45:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
Message-ID: <00a401c6dc56$71b12210$fcf34c0c@D48VHZ61>

Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the Fairbanks 
mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State 
conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax, 
Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody ever 
run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured 
appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.

John 




From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Tue Sep 19 18:51:28 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:51:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
	<6f6025160609190712i609aa67ai5243d1eb7e8acc32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b501c6dc57$49b8c870$05e14044@pengy>

It should be:
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/todengine.JPG

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!


> On 19/09/06, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>>
>> Rick Rowlands
>> Tod Engine Foundation
> 
> Rick:
> 
> I'm getting "Page Cannot Be Found" on the first url, second set look OK.
> 
> Well done!
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 19 19:20:48 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:20:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <a4ea6ebb13d27f8b4b6e2f6b03bcc30c@chartertn.net>

> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back 
> pain other than this they walked away from it.

Thank Heaven!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 19 19:23:25 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:23:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190859030.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190859030.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <36d6147b4b8be8a7ea3121c5e015bd1e@chartertn.net>

> OK, if you turn room temperature, I'll handle things on this end.
> I can certainly work up good descriptions of the engines.  However I 
> think
> I'll need to spend the weekend at your place to "experience" Jennie so
> that I can work up an accurate description for the sale bill.  8->>

Arnie, do you mean you'll be auctioning Jennie when Dave assumes room 
temperature?

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net  Tue Sep 19 19:27:31 2006
From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (George & Norma Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:27:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
Message-ID: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer>

John,
    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on the
Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling the
system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge.    George
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition


>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the Fairbanks
>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody ever
>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>
>John
>
>
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From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Tue Sep 19 20:00:48 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:00:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer>
Message-ID: <003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>

Was what he was selling modern? I would say my info from Fairbanks is at 
least 30 years old---I'll try to look again tomorrow and see if I can find a 
date on the literature.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George & Norma Armstrong" <gnarmstrong at netnitco.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition


> John,
>    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on 
> the
> Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling the
> system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge.    George
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
> Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
>
>
>>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the Fairbanks
>>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody ever
>>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>>
>>John
>>




From FRM8198 at aol.com  Tue Sep 19 20:07:28 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:07:28 EDT
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
Message-ID: <2fa.2e40da80.32420a70@aol.com>

John,
List member, Elden DuRand, at one time was building solid  state retrofit 
ignition systems.  I believe he donated one of his system to  the Charity 
Auction.  Perhaps, Elden may be able to help by providing an  electrical schematic.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria, Ca




From oiseming at moscow.com  Tue Sep 19 22:35:09 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:35:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <200609200535.k8K5ZUb7082042@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Paul, you must have mixed emotions, right now.  On one hand, you are glad
your grandson escaped serious injury; but, on the other hand you'd probably
like to strangle him for destroying your beautiful truck.  

I hope things work out well in the long haul.

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:04 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck

Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the
old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday
evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend
the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a
previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006:
Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain
other than this they walked away from it.

Paul






From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 18:36:17 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:36:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<451097AC.3080604@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <012701c6dc55$2b1f72d0$240110ac@FAMILY>

They ran off the road through a ditch, hit a culvert and went airborne.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clint D" <driggars at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Paul
> 
> glad to hear all was OK as far as injuries. Now, what did they run into? 
> or what hit them?
> 
> Clint
>



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 16:54:01 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:54:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609191756430.43461@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00e901c6dc46$e2b6cc90$240110ac@FAMILY>

The story according to two witnesses who followed them for five miles before 
the accident happened was that the passenger was reaching over and grabbing 
the steering wheel out of my grandson's hands. The witness said they had 
already went off the road once and she had told her husband that if these 
kids did not stop that playing around they were going to kill someone. She 
said that about that time she saw the passenger reach up again and grab the 
steering wheel and yank on it which sent the truck careening off of the road 
into a ditch and then they hit a culvert, went airborne, according to the 
witness about 50' in the air and the truck went end over end and landed 
upside down.

I talked to the state trooper at the scene and he said he could smell 
alcohol so they gave my grandson a breathalyzer test on the spot and it came 
up zero but the passenger, whom my grandson had just picked up was reeking 
of alcohol. I understand that the passenger got a public drunkenness ticket. 
My grandson got a ticket for no seat belts and Careless and Prohibitive 
Driving.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Hi Paul,
>
> Lemmie guess...  Wet road, too fast, lost control, rollover through the
> weeds?  Am I close?  Looks like the kid was lucky.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - Guess #2.  They totaled your truck?
>
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Paul Maples wrote:
>
>> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
>> pain other than this they walked away from it.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 16:56:52 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:56:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609191756430.43461@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c6dc47$4829b740$240110ac@FAMILY>

Yep, Arnie they totaled the truck and only gave me $4000.00 for it which 
will never replace it. It was 16-1/2 years old and had 262,000 miles on it 
but I kept it well maintained and it looked new and ran like new.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Hi Paul,
>
> Lemmie guess...  Wet road, too fast, lost control, rollover through the
> weeds?  Am I close?  Looks like the kid was lucky.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - Guess #2.  They totaled your truck?
>
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Paul Maples wrote:
>
>> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
>> pain other than this they walked away from it.
>
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 17:36:39 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:36:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <20060920000204.49185.qmail@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <011401c6dc4c$d66eab00$240110ac@FAMILY>

Hey Alan thanks for the website, I found it very interesting. Now if the old 
truck was made of wood I would gladly jump on it and resurrect it from the 
dead but not excelling in metal work I will have to let the old gal rest in 
peace as she had breathe her last.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Bowen" <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Come on now, Paul.
>
>  I have seen pictures of those fine toys you have made,,,,
>  You can fix that truck.  Think of it as one little project at a time.
>
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 19 18:59:54 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:59:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List! 
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060919211658.02ee0cd0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Rick,
         I will remember, to my dying day when we first met in Youngstown 
and saw the Tod. My reaction was, I'm sure, the same as the 16 year old 
girl on her wedding night in the year that the Tod was built--DAMN THAT 
THING SURE IS HUGE! The Tod was a good 200 yards away when we first saw it, 
and we all stopped dead in our tracks and just looked at her! What a sight! 
And what a crew we made! Can anyone else remember the day that it was -10 F 
in the building and we (dumb asses that we were) still tried to remove nuts 
and bolts? It was 5 minutes of work and 20 minutes in front of the kero 
torpedo space heater! One inch frost on the flywheel, and when you scraped 
that off it would reappear in about 15 minutes and you could not tell where 
it had been removed!
         I also remember you, Rick, hanging on the end of a 4' chain wrench 
(about 9' in the air) with an 11' cheater pipe attached to it--and the damn 
chain broke! That was in an attempt to remove the last 5" nut holding the 
flywheel together. It was only "the luck of the Irish" that caused you to 
miss stratteling that 4'X8' piece of upright 1/4" steel guard at the end of 
the flywheel! (Have you ever told your bride how close you came to becoming 
a soprano  that day?)
         Then there was the day we attempted to remove the last 11" nut 
from the con rod cap. Used the 10 ton Pettibone crane so we did--and broke 
the dam 3' wrench in the process! Your friend (damn, I can't remember his 
name) cut us a new 11" hex nut wrench out of 1" steel plate  (actually two 
1/2" pieces of steel plate welded together) that night and the next morning 
the Pettibone  loosened the nut with only a slight "tink." After that I 
removed the nut BY HAND--although I needed Arnie's help to carry the damn 
thing over to the nut pile after I had it off.
         And the stories I could relate about the comradery that developed 
as the project continued. Only one other time in my life can I recall such 
comradery! I thank you Rick for allowing me to be a small part of the TOD 
Project! I'll take my memories of that experience with me to my grave!
         Dave
PS, Thinking about my grave, when the hell do you think the Tod will be all 
back together and running on her own steam (or should I say "air?") I 
figure that I only have another 10 years, or so, so how about getting on 
the stick and making it happen before that?

At 08:47 AM 9/19/2006, you wrote:
>Ten years ago several members of this Stationary Engine List met in 
>Youngstown, Ohio to undertake the removal of a large stationary steam 
>engine.  Dave Rotigel, Arnie Fero, Matt Picaro, Craig Prucha, Bill 
>Pfeiffer, DJ Rotigel, Rick Monk and myself made up what we have called the 
>"Wrecking Crew".
>
>The engine that we successfully removed has sat in pieces until yesterday 
>when 250 tons of 93 year old iron was put back together in her new home.
>
>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>
>More Photos here:
>
>http://community.webshots.com/album/554214728mqgcLZ
>
>The engine is a 34" x 68" x 60" cross compound rolling mill engine of 
>4,000 HP.  The crankshaft hasn't been set into the bearings yet and the 
>flywheel also is not together yet.
>
>Rick Rowlands
>Tod Engine Foundation



From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep 20 05:09:24 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <200609200535.k8K5ZUb7082042@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<200609200535.k8K5ZUb7082042@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <1202.165.206.180.140.1158754164.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

No kidding - ditto. And from the looks, be glad it was a truck and not a
yugo they crashed in. Or it would be a funeral for not just the truck.....
Still - after that long you get to know a truck quite well and to lose it...

Bill

> Paul, you must have mixed emotions, right now.  On one hand, you are glad
> your grandson escaped serious injury; but, on the other hand you'd
> probably
> like to strangle him for destroying your beautiful truck.
>
> I hope things work out well in the long haul.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Orrin
>
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:04 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
>
> Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the
> old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday
> evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could
> spend
> the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a
> previous engine trip:
>
> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
>
>
> Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006:
> Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button
>
>
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain
> other than this they walked away from it.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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>



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 20 05:30:51 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:30:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer>
	<003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>

I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built a 
Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said and done 
and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air cooled engine, 
the least expensive way is to convert it to an automotive transistor type. 
The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to $20 at most auto parts stores. One 
needs a conventional coil with a built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or 
aftermarket) or a ballast resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger 
coils, but the instructions for making them are on my web site 
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/  .

A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model of a 
1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as small as 
possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw with the magnet 
on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. Ron is still working 
on this and has not got to the point of stack music yet. I hope he could 
bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery has two combustion chambers, so we 
are using a coil from a 1996 Bonneville to fire both plugs at the same time. 
Ron's engine has the trigger mounted on a lever to control the spark 
advance.

If I ever get my STOVER CT_2 together, I will probably use some thing like 
to above until I get a Wyco EK.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition


> Was what he was selling modern? I would say my info from Fairbanks is at 
> least 30 years old---I'll try to look again tomorrow and see if I can find 
> a date on the literature.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George & Norma Armstrong" <gnarmstrong at netnitco.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition
>
>
>> John,
>>    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on 
>> the
>> Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling the
>> system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge.    George
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
>>
>>
>>>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the 
>>>Fairbanks
>>>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>>>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>>>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody 
>>>ever
>>>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>>>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From mullt at att.net  Wed Sep 20 06:13:35 2006
From: mullt at att.net (mullt at att.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:13:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Checking a Magneto
Message-ID: <092020061313.18569.45113E7F0009DE140000488921603762239B04049A03@att.net>

I am fairly new to old engines and I am starting to look at buying my
first mit & miss engine.

Some of the engines I have looked at look to be okay, they are loose
and turn okay. Many times though, they are not running and have not
run for a while. The owners always say they are okay but there is no
way to tell that for sure.

I understand that replacing a magneto can be expensive, sometimes more
than the engine itself. My question is, how can you check a mag on an
engine that is not running to see if it is okay. Can you hook a test
spark plug up, crank the engine and expect to see a spark? Are there
other ways to quickly check a mag to see if it is okay?

How about engines with ignitors. How can you check them?

Thanks for any input.

Tom in St. Louis


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 20 06:48:45 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:48:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer><003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>

Updated link, scroll down to TASK 5 and look just above it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition


>I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built a 
>Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said and done 
>and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air cooled engine, 
>the least expensive way is to convert it to an automotive transistor type. 
>The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to $20 at most auto parts stores. One 
>needs a conventional coil with a built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or 
>aftermarket) or a ballast resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger 
>coils, but the instructions for making them are on my web site 
>http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id5.html .
>
> A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model of a 
> 1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as small as 
> possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw with the 
> magnet on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. Ron is still 
> working on this and has not got to the point of stack music yet. I hope he 
> could bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery has two combustion 
> chambers, so we are using a coil from a 1996 Bonneville to fire both plugs 
> at the same time. Ron's engine has the trigger mounted on a lever to 
> control the spark advance.
>
> If I ever get my STOVER CT_2 together, I will probably use some thing like 
> to above until I get a Wyco EK.
>
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition
>
>
>> Was what he was selling modern? I would say my info from Fairbanks is at 
>> least 30 years old---I'll try to look again tomorrow and see if I can 
>> find a date on the literature.
>>
>> John
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "George & Norma Armstrong" <gnarmstrong at netnitco.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition
>>
>>
>>> John,
>>>    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on 
>>> the
>>> Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling 
>>> the
>>> system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge. 
>>> George
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
>>> Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
>>>
>>>
>>>>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the 
>>>>Fairbanks
>>>>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>>>>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>>>>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody 
>>>>ever
>>>>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>>>>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From curt at imc-group.com  Wed Sep 20 07:52:39 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:52:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev
In-Reply-To: <006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer><003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>	<003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>
	<006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <451155B7.6080000@imc-group.com>

Ed,
Excellent, excellent documentation!!!!
We thank you for taking the time to do this so precisely.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC


Ed stoller wrote:

> Updated link, scroll down to TASK 5 and look just above it.
>
>> I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built 
>> a Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said 
>> and done and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air 
>> cooled engine, the least expensive way is to convert it to an 
>> automotive transistor type. The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to 
>> $20 at most auto parts stores. One needs a conventional coil with a 
>> built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or aftermarket) or a ballast 
>> resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger coils, but the 
>> instructions for making them are on my web site  
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id5.html  .
>>
>> A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model 
>> of a 1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as 
>> small as possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw 
>> with the magnet on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. 
>> Ron is still working on this and has not got to the point of stack 
>> music yet. I hope he could bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery 
>> has two combustion chambers, so we are using a coil from a 1996 
>> Bonneville to fire both plugs at the same time. Ron's engine has the 
>> trigger mounted on a lever to control the spark advance.
>>



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Wed Sep 20 08:16:19 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:16:19 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Checking a Magneto
In-Reply-To: <092020061313.18569.45113E7F0009DE140000488921603762239B04049A03@att.net>
Message-ID: <C136A953.311A%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

On 9/20/06 6:13 AM, "mullt at att.net" <mullt at att.net> wrote:
> I understand that replacing a magneto can be expensive, sometimes more
> than the engine itself. My question is, how can you check a mag on an
> engine that is not running to see if it is okay. Can you hook a test
> spark plug up, crank the engine and expect to see a spark?
> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> Yes, you can check a magneto by hooking up a test plug.  But that won?t tell
>> you the whole story.  If the plug is fat and blue, that?s a good sign.  If
>> it?s skinny and yellow, the engine might have problems running.  Don?t let
>> this scare you off of an otherwise good deal.  Magnetos can be fixed up just
>> like valves or piston rings.
>> 
>> Sometimes the mags are easy to fix, sometimes not.  One thing to consider,
>> never trip a mag with the high tension lead disconnected.  It can seriously
>> degrade the secondary winding.  Hooking up a plug or grounding the lead is
>> the proper way of handling the situation when you need to trip the magneto.
> 
> 
> How about engines with ignitors. How can you check them?
> 
>> There is not much to go wrong with the ignitor.  Sometimes points wear,
>> creating an intermittent condition.  Very commonly, the rotating shaft and
>> it?s bore will wear so that good electrical contact is lost.  This will have
>> to be addressed, and it?s not usually a huge problem.
>> 
>> If the ignitor is run by a battery and coil, you can easily replace either.
>> If the ignitor runs from a magneto, there are timing issues and the
>> electrical integrity of the magneto to consider.  It can be hard to check the
>> entire system without actually running the engine or testing the magneto on a
>> bench.
>> 
     
 
     Rob Skinner  
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?   562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com   ?   http://www.rustyiron.com






From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 20 10:24:40 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:24:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer><003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>	<003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>
	<006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>
	<451155B7.6080000@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <00d001c6dcd9$aad04e30$d2f5f504@Ed>

Thank you Curt.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev


> Ed,
> Excellent, excellent documentation!!!!
> We thank you for taking the time to do this so precisely.
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
> 
> 
> Ed stoller wrote:
> 
>> Updated link, scroll down to TASK 5 and look just above it.
>>
>>> I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built 
>>> a Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said 
>>> and done and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air 
>>> cooled engine, the least expensive way is to convert it to an 
>>> automotive transistor type. The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to 
>>> $20 at most auto parts stores. One needs a conventional coil with a 
>>> built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or aftermarket) or a ballast 
>>> resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger coils, but the 
>>> instructions for making them are on my web site  
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id5.html  .
>>>
>>> A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model 
>>> of a 1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as 
>>> small as possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw 
>>> with the magnet on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. 
>>> Ron is still working on this and has not got to the point of stack 
>>> music yet. I hope he could bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery 
>>> has two combustion chambers, so we are using a coil from a 1996 
>>> Bonneville to fire both plugs at the same time. Ron's engine has the 
>>> trigger mounted on a lever to control the spark advance.
>>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From edurand at iglou.com  Wed Sep 20 14:02:12 2006
From: edurand at iglou.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:02:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <C136A953.311A%rskinner@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>

Group:

A while back I posted a message about a Fairbanks-Morse power plant that needed a new home.  Here's an update.

It has been inspected and, except for about 30 years of accumulated dirt, the two older engines turn. There wasn't a bar for the O.P. genset but it looks like it should turn, too. (The engines were only turned about 1/8th of a turn in case something small was stuck.)

After turning the engines, the oilers were turned about 100 turns to get a little lube to the bearings.

The alternators and exciters look to be all right but should be cleaned up and recoated with glyptol.

There are a bunch of original tools - most likely nearly a set of tools for each of the older engines. Manuals are a question mark. There is a pile of junk leaning against the doors of a couple of cabinets that might contain paperwork but we won't know until the junk is cleared out of the building. That is supposed to happen soon.

There are two air compressors (electric motor driven) and tanks but their condition is totally unknown.

The control panels are complete and as they were when the plant was shut down for the last time. A couple of meter glasses are cracked and a step ladder fell on the chart recorder at some time in the past and broke the case.

It looks as if originally there were three of the 2-banger sets. One was removed and the 5-banger O.P. (250kW) unit with it's control panel was installed in it's place. The control panel for the old removed genset is leaning against the wall in the back room.

There is some surface rust on the rheostat housings, etc. but it looks to be only cosmetic. All of the control and power transformers are still in place (2200 Volt to 220 Volt 3-phase) and look to be serviceable.

The coolant pumps and heat exchangers and all the plumbing are there. The older engines were cooled by heat exchange from a well. The O.P. unit has a radiator.

The fuel day tanks , filters, etc. are there and may be useable.

At this time, we have qualified parties interested in the gensets but won't know for sure if they will be taken until Board meetings are held to decide.

The plan is to remove them some time in November. A barge will be chartered with a crane and can be floated to near the building at high tide. The plan is to load one or more semi flatbed trailers onto the barge and transfer the machinery to them after moving it outside the building. 

The trailers can most likely be hooked up and driven off the barge from the mainland dock.

The O.P unit is on a skid and closest to the door and we hope to be able to skid it out with come alongs.

The exciters, alternators, etc will be disassembled from the old units and we hope that we have enough muscle (moving gear) to be able to the engines (minus railings, etc.) in one piece.

We are also hoping to get volunteer professional riggers to do the smart part of moving everything. The control panels and the alternator rotors should be crated and we need someone who knows how to get this done. There is some 120 Volt AC power in the building for lights and tools.

Anyhoo, that's about it. We're really optimistic about saving this iron and, barring some bureaucratic snags, it should get done.

Take care - Elden & Friend
http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 20 12:33:17 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:33:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Elden,

Your project sounds a helluva lot like the rescue of three 3-cylinder
Fairbanks-Morse generator outfits that were in a power station in Long
Lake, New York.  Check out some of the pics of that project.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/fairbanksmorse32.html

Good luck!!  It's worth saving those engines.  They are sweet runners and
definitely crowd pleasers at any showgrounds.

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Elden DuRand wrote:

> A while back I posted a message about a Fairbanks-Morse power plant
> that needed a new home.  Here's an update.



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Sep 20 13:52:28 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:52:28 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
Message-ID: <20060920.135228.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Arnie.
That link takes me to a picture of a McCormick Deering magneto?????

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Wed Sep 20 15:29:52 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:29:52 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <20060920.135228.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <C1370EF0.3175%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

On 9/20/06 1:52 PM, "rdhaskell at juno.com" <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
Hi Arnie.
That link takes me to a picture of a McCormick Deering magneto?????
> 
> Hi Ron,
> You?re looking at the mysterious image swapping phenomenon on Jim?s server.
> Click ?refresh? or ?reload? from within your browser, and the correct image
> will likely load.

     
 
     Rob Skinner
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com






From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 20 15:56:59 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:56:59 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
References: <20060920.135228.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000901c6dd08$1593c340$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Power Plant Update


> Hi Arnie.
> That link takes me to a picture of a McCormick Deering magneto?????
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

Hi Ron, It works OK for me. A bit slow though even though I am on 4 MB.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Sep 20 16:32:54 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:32:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] was Power Plant Update Now OT
Message-ID: <20060920.163254.1864.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Rob.  I copied and pasted it to Netscape and it came up.
Did you change something in your fonts in the last couple of days? 
Whenever you type an apostrophe it comes up as a number 1 except to the
power of.  In the reply below it is Click (cubed) refresh (squared) or
(cubed) reload (squared)
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


 Hi Ron,
 You?re looking at the mysterious image swapping phenomenon on 
 Jim?s server.
Click ?refresh? or ?reload? from within your browser, and the 
 correct image
 will likely load.
    Rob Skinner
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
    rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com


From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 20 17:13:51 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:13:51 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
Message-ID: <392.ad90a0e.3243333f@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/19/2006 6:05:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes:

<< Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the 
old iron around is "no more". >>


Paul,

Sorry to see the end of your truck, but glad your grandson and his passenger 
are doing ok after a ride like that!  No matter how clean we keep our 
vehicles, the insurance companies never give enough when the vehicle is older.

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 20 18:02:26 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:02:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <392.ad90a0e.3243333f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c6dd19$9b81be10$240110ac@FAMILY>

Thanks Tom,

Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> In a message dated 9/19/2006 6:05:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> << Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul 
> the
> old iron around is "no more". >>
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Sorry to see the end of your truck, but glad your grandson and his 
> passenger
> are doing ok after a ride like that!  No matter how clean we keep our
> vehicles, the insurance companies never give enough when the vehicle is 
> older.
>
> 




From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep 20 19:12:35 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:12:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Flywheels in Racin Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060920220150.0345dde0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi All, I'm looking at getting a set of Ideal flywheels in Racin Wisconsin. 
Is there anyone in the area coming to Coolsprings or Portland this fall 
that can pick em up and give them a ride? Or however to get them this way?

                             Thanks,  Mark

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Thu Sep 21 04:57:16 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:57:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List! 
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060919211658.02ee0cd0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <010101c6dd75$158508b0$05e14044@pengy>

Dave,

I'm working on it!  My goal is to have her turing over via electric motor 
(steam and air are too expensive) by 2010.  Can you stay alive until then? 
That means next year's project is foundation work and 2009 is lining up and 
reassembly.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!


> Hi Rick,
>         I will remember, to my dying day when we first met in Youngstown 
> and saw the Tod. My reaction was, I'm sure, the same as the 16 year old 
> girl on her wedding night in the year that the Tod was built--DAMN THAT 
> THING SURE IS HUGE! The Tod was a good 200 yards away when we first saw 
> it, and we all stopped dead in our tracks and just looked at her! What a 
> sight! And what a crew we made! Can anyone else remember the day that it 
> was -10 F in the building and we (dumb asses that we were) still tried to 
> remove nuts and bolts? It was 5 minutes of work and 20 minutes in front of 
> the kero torpedo space heater! One inch frost on the flywheel, and when 
> you scraped that off it would reappear in about 15 minutes and you could 
> not tell where it had been removed!
>         I also remember you, Rick, hanging on the end of a 4' chain wrench 
> (about 9' in the air) with an 11' cheater pipe attached to it--and the 
> damn chain broke! That was in an attempt to remove the last 5" nut holding 
> the flywheel together. It was only "the luck of the Irish" that caused you 
> to miss stratteling that 4'X8' piece of upright 1/4" steel guard at the 
> end of the flywheel! (Have you ever told your bride how close you came to 
> becoming a soprano  that day?)
>         Then there was the day we attempted to remove the last 11" nut 
> from the con rod cap. Used the 10 ton Pettibone crane so we did--and broke 
> the dam 3' wrench in the process! Your friend (damn, I can't remember his 
> name) cut us a new 11" hex nut wrench out of 1" steel plate  (actually two 
> 1/2" pieces of steel plate welded together) that night and the next 
> morning the Pettibone  loosened the nut with only a slight "tink." After 
> that I removed the nut BY HAND--although I needed Arnie's help to carry 
> the damn thing over to the nut pile after I had it off.
>         And the stories I could relate about the comradery that developed 
> as the project continued. Only one other time in my life can I recall such 
> comradery! I thank you Rick for allowing me to be a small part of the TOD 
> Project! I'll take my memories of that experience with me to my grave!
>         Dave
> PS, Thinking about my grave, when the hell do you think the Tod will be 
> all back together and running on her own steam (or should I say "air?") I 
> figure that I only have another 10 years, or so, so how about getting on 
> the stick and making it happen before that?
>
> At 08:47 AM 9/19/2006, you wrote:
>>Ten years ago several members of this Stationary Engine List met in 
>>Youngstown, Ohio to undertake the removal of a large stationary steam 
>>engine.  Dave Rotigel, Arnie Fero, Matt Picaro, Craig Prucha, Bill 
>>Pfeiffer, DJ Rotigel, Rick Monk and myself made up what we have called the 
>>"Wrecking Crew".
>>
>>The engine that we successfully removed has sat in pieces until yesterday 
>>when 250 tons of 93 year old iron was put back together in her new home.
>>
>>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>>
>>More Photos here:
>>
>>http://community.webshots.com/album/554214728mqgcLZ
>>
>>The engine is a 34" x 68" x 60" cross compound rolling mill engine of 
>>4,000 HP.  The crankshaft hasn't been set into the bearings yet and the 
>>flywheel also is not together yet.
>>
>>Rick Rowlands
>>Tod Engine Foundation
>
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu Sep 21 05:16:10 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:16:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <20060921121602.CSHD22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I finally have a couple of minutes spare so a report on last weekend is in
order :)
Our club had its annual rally last weekend and the feature was IHC. There
was a good line up of IHC engines, tractors, trucks and implements. The
weather was perfect (unusual for this rally).
A few list members were present, Brad even brought his big 10hp M out of
hiding and made the long trip down. Of course, as the feature was IHC I
exhibited my Stover, Brock had his White and Gilson, Michael had a Witte &
Cam had his Austral. The rest of the list members did manage to have IHC
engines so that made up for us ;)
The mighty YC Stover had its first failure after much running at rallies
since its debut last December. It broke the return spring on the Webster
ignitor. It is of course in a fiddly spot and the engine was very hot so it
was not fun to replace. New spring in place and the engine was running
again. The Webster gets a fairly hard time on the throttle governed engine
as it is continually being tripped unlike on the hit and miss when it gets a
bit of a break when the engine is missing.
It was another fantastic weekend with nice engines and great people. I will
hopefully have some pics up on my site on the weekend. I took over 400
photos so there is a lot to sort through.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 21 09:30:40 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:30:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] was Power Plant Update Now OT
In-Reply-To: <20060920.163254.1864.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
References: <20060920.163254.1864.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609211228300.79949@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Ron,

Rob recently went over to the dark side and is a Mac man now.
Despite the TV adverts to the contrary, Macs don't talk to the rest of the
world very well.  I see the same fubar aspects to Rob's emails.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Rob.  I copied and pasted it to Netscape and it came up.
> Did you change something in your fonts in the last couple of days?
> Whenever you type an apostrophe it comes up as a number 1 except to the
> power of.  In the reply below it is Click (cubed) refresh (squared) or
> (cubed) reload (squared)
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
>
>  Hi Ron,
>  You?re looking at the mysterious image swapping phenomenon on
>  Jim?s server.
> Click ?refresh? or ?reload? from within your browser, and the
>  correct image
>  will likely load.
>     Rob Skinner
>      1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
>     rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Thu Sep 21 11:23:58 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:23:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] was Power Plant Update Now OT
Message-ID: <20060921.112358.2120.2.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Arnie.
It is all Kelley's fault, she has corrupted the lad.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Arnie Fero
<fero_ah at city-net.com> writes:
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Rob recently went over to the dark side and is a Mac man now.
> Despite the TV adverts to the contrary, Macs don't talk to the rest 
> of the
> world very well.  I see the same fubar aspects to Rob's emails.  
> 8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie


From bigtime64 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 21 12:17:34 2006
From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:17:34 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Flywheels in Racin Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20060920220150.0345dde0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F2522D617F3638D19F169B2B4200@phx.gbl>

I could pick them up and hold them for you.  I work about 20 minutesw from 
Racine.  From there I saw that Joe P is going down to coolsprings, I could 
probably pass them along to him or I know of a couple more guys that go that 
wayfor the meets I could send them with.

I am interested in meeting the seller as I have bid on but been outbid on a 
few items of his recently.  I could maybe get a preview of what is on the 
sale block.  Let me  know if you win.


Ed Herreid
Trevor WI


----Original Message Follows----
From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] Flywheels in Racin Wisconsin
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:12:35 -0400

Hi All, I'm looking at getting a set of Ideal flywheels in Racin Wisconsin. 
Is there anyone in the area coming to Coolsprings or Portland this fall that 
can pick em up and give them a ride? Or however to get them this way?

                             Thanks,  Mark

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine


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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 22 17:33:07 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:33:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
Message-ID: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>

I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice before I buy one. Thanks

Paul



From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri Sep 22 18:07:46 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:07:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000901c6deac$afe0bc00$fb00a8c0@sheeba>

I have a 1995 Ford F250 (3/4 ton) 4x4 w/351, automatic, etc. 
64,000 miles, original battery.
Maybe that's too old for your needs?


Bill
Runnells, IA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:33 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner

I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 22 18:58:52 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:58:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <00b501c6deb3$d2c6bd30$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

I got an 05 Dodge with a Cummins; what you need to know?

Lew Best near Waco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Maples
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:33 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner

I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some
advice before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From BillMil357 at aol.com  Fri Sep 22 19:07:23 2006
From: BillMil357 at aol.com (BillMil357 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:07:23 EDT
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
Message-ID: <553.a060c60.3245f0db@aol.com>

Paul,
 
 Your OLE engine buddy owns two of them, both diesels.
 
Bill Miller.



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 22 19:28:20 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:28:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
Message-ID: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>

I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.  
Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several 
years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember 
him and his family in your prayers.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 22 19:59:36 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:59:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <007801c6debc$4e17ac30$240110ac@FAMILY>

Thanks Tommy for letting us know about Mike, I had often talked to him via 
e-mail. Our hobby is suffering some terrible losses this year with Ted gone 
and now Mike and I am sure there are others. Mike and his family will be in 
my prayers.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing


>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.  Mike 
>had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several years.  He 
>loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember him and his 
>family in your prayers.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Fri Sep 22 20:04:55 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:04:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <003001c6debd$0d0403f0$b3d14c0c@D48VHZ61>

Got a 2001 Chevy 4 door. Rides great, not 4WD. Gets around 14mpg back and 
forth to work---hardly any stop and go.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice 
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From asouth at strato.net  Fri Sep 22 20:16:32 2006
From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:16:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <002d01c6debe$ab8bb490$2421d7cc@LapTop>

Hi Paul,

I have a 1992 Ford 7.3L diesel 193,000 miles. Still strong, doesn't "use" 
oil yet.  Running 4:10 HD rear gears, gets 12 MPG running around local, 
about 14 to 15 MPG on the hwy.

Hope this helps.

Arthur














Arthur Southwell
Arthur Southwell Rebuilding
Arcadia, Florida 34266 U.S.A.
asouth at strato.net


http://www.homestead.com/artsouthwell/index.html
http://photos.yahoo.com/mr_nocatee
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice 
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From asouth at strato.net  Fri Sep 22 20:17:43 2006
From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:17:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <003301c6debe$d60f0960$2421d7cc@LapTop>

Tommy,
Sorry to hear of your friend's passing.

Arthur














Arthur Southwell
Arthur Southwell Rebuilding
Arcadia, Florida 34266 U.S.A.
asouth at strato.net 


http://www.homestead.com/artsouthwell/index.html
http://photos.yahoo.com/mr_nocatee
http://community.webshots.com/user/asouth944


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:28 PM
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing


>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.  
> Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several 
> years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember 
> him and his family in your prayers.
> 
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
> 
> 
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Sep 22 20:29:08 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:29:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
Message-ID: <20060922.232914.1136.3.jlb94@juno.com>

Thanks Tommy - We'll be thinking of Mike.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/     
 (_o_)


From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Sep 22 20:27:51 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:27:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
Message-ID: <20060922.232914.1136.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Paul,

Not sure if I can give any advice.  
Mine's a 1972 Ford  F-250  4x4.
What's on your mind ?

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/     
 (_o_)
 


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Sep 22 20:32:20 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:32:20 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<002d01c6debe$ab8bb490$2421d7cc@LapTop>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV9A3594A0D9429E7AD3137BB260@phx.gbl>

2005 D-Max, Paul...Crewcab short box..just turned 11k...~16mpg.

Regards,
RickinMt.


From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Sep 22 23:25:59 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:25:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
Message-ID: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of them
are on my site at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
Enjoy!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From falcon at telenet.net  Fri Sep 22 20:13:03 2006
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:13:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>



Paul Maples wrote:
> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice before I buy one. Thanks
> 
> Paul
> 
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> 
> 

Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
What do you have in mind?

-- 
Steve W.


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep 23 04:35:42 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:35:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <000f01c6df04$680a3340$ecf1ecdc@domain.invalid>

very good! as usual.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>;
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of
them
> are on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
> Enjoy!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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From bboyce at swat.coop  Sat Sep 23 04:33:14 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 06:33:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001701c6df04$0ee72390$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

hi paul,, one suggestion on a 3/4 ton, if you get a diesel, and it doesnt 
have 4wd, you can forget about driving on other than hard surfaces, just too 
much weight on the front wheels,,i have a 92 dodge and it will hardly pull 
itself out of a heavy dew on grass !!  but on the plus side, other than new 
brake shoes and pads its never been in the shop, NEVER,,,, even the A/C has 
never been touched and will still freeze ya out,,,,it has the old mechanical 
fuel injection pump and will get 19 and 20 mpg on the highway even with an 
engine trailer behind it,,, wish i could buy a new one just like it 
again,,,, i added air bag helper springs on the rear, and use them 
occasionaly when i'm pulling a heavily loaded gooseneck livestock 
trailer,,,,i had a 1/2 ton chev set up the same way, but theres just no 
compairing the 1/2 and 3/4 ton,, hope this helps,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas




I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice 
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 23 04:51:18 2006
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <20060923115118.77399.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Paul,
  I don't own one yet but am also looking. I'm thinking I want a 60's-70's vintage and with a flatbed or convert it to one. The prices arn't too bad for one that age and parts are still available. I want it to take to engine and tractor shows. Will fit better with the old stuff I take to shows. Would like one older than that, say 40's-50's but wonder about the reiliability on the road and interstate speeds for one that old. 
  What do you have in mind?
  Ron

Paul Maples <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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Ron Frost
Kersey, PA
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 23 05:14:47 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:14:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <001701c6df04$0ee72390$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
Message-ID: <002101c6df09$de027300$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

Hey Bill

I had a '93 Dodge diesel & now have a '05; never noticed this "light
weight on the rear wheels" problem?  Just got back from KY with a
trailer load probably grossing bout 5k pounds; setting the cruise on 60
I averaged near 23 mpg overall.  BTW if you're anywhere near Missouri
diesel was 2.31 a gallon when I came through Tuesday!  Packed the tank
full; made it within 60 miles of home before the low fuel light came on!
:)

Lew near Waco, TX 


hi paul,, one suggestion on a 3/4 ton, if you get a diesel, and it
doesnt 
have 4wd, you can forget about driving on other than hard surfaces, just
too 
much weight on the front wheels,,i have a 92 dodge and it will hardly
pull 
itself out of a heavy dew on grass !!  but on the plus side, other than
new 
brake shoes and pads its never been in the shop, NEVER,,,, even the A/C
has 
never been touched and will still freeze ya out,,,,it has the old
mechanical 
fuel injection pump and will get 19 and 20 mpg on the highway even with
an 
engine trailer behind it,,, wish i could buy a new one just like it 
again,,,, i added air bag helper springs on the rear, and use them 
occasionaly when i'm pulling a heavily loaded gooseneck livestock 
trailer,,,,i had a 1/2 ton chev set up the same way, but theres just no 
compairing the 1/2 and 3/4 ton,, hope this helps,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
 

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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Sat Sep 23 05:17:03 2006
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:17:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
References: <20060921121602.CSHD22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <00ba01c6df0a$2e39ba40$5f11fea9@merlin>

Good pics as normal Patrick thanks for puting them up  you forgot to mention 
Edd was there to with his Thompson tiger.
regards Brock
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally


>I finally have a couple of minutes spare so a report on last weekend is in
> order :)
> Our club had its annual rally last weekend and the feature was IHC. There
> was a good line up of IHC engines, tractors, trucks and implements. The
> weather was perfect (unusual for this rally).
> A few list members were present, Brad even brought his big 10hp M out of
> hiding and made the long trip down. Of course, as the feature was IHC I
> exhibited my Stover, Brock had his White and Gilson, Michael had a Witte &
> Cam had his Austral. The rest of the list members did manage to have IHC
> engines so that made up for us ;)
> The mighty YC Stover had its first failure after much running at rallies
> since its debut last December. It broke the return spring on the Webster
> ignitor. It is of course in a fiddly spot and the engine was very hot so 
> it
> was not fun to replace. New spring in place and the engine was running
> again. The Webster gets a fairly hard time on the throttle governed engine
> as it is continually being tripped unlike on the hit and miss when it gets 
> a
> bit of a break when the engine is missing.
> It was another fantastic weekend with nice engines and great people. I 
> will
> hopefully have some pics up on my site on the weekend. I took over 400
> photos so there is a lot to sort through.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 23 05:21:30 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:21:30 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <005f01c6df0a$ce69b920$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:25 AM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of them
> are on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
> Enjoy!  Patrick M Livingstone

Hi Patrick, Very Nice pictures.
The IHC Tom Thumb
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061005.JPG
is different to the one I owned & I have never seen one before using a magneto.
It seems to be driven by the belt drive cog! Were these fitted by the Oz importer?
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Sep 23 05:30:52 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:30:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c6df0a$2e39ba40$5f11fea9@merlin>
Message-ID: <20060923123040.BWSI15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I thought it was best not to mention that the one person with more nice IHC
engines than anyone else did not bring one ;)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

Good pics as normal Patrick thanks for puting them up  you forgot to mention

Edd was there to with his Thompson tiger.
regards Brock




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Sep 23 05:54:38 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:54:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <45152E8E.1020803@scrtc.com>

Patrick,
    Great photos.  Thanks for posting them.  On page 4 of your photos 
the link to enlarge the thumbnail of the 8 HP Austral doesn't work and 
it brings up a photo of another engine.  I like the Australs and would 
love to trade for one.  It doesn't appear I could afford the haul bill 
and associated headaches though to get one.  I was telling  a friend of 
mine a year or so ago that I might take a trip to an engine show in 
Australia some day.  He asked how far away it was and I told him about 
9000 miles.  He said "WHEW, WHAT A DRIVE!".  They haven't built the 
bridge yet though.  Thanks again for posting the photos.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


>Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of them
>are on my site at:
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
>Enjoy!
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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>
>
>  
>



From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Sat Sep 23 06:07:23 2006
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:07:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
References: <20060921121602.CSHD22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<00ba01c6df0a$2e39ba40$5f11fea9@merlin>
Message-ID: <006301c6df11$3d669950$8ead57ca@n>

You'v done well again patrick, i also noted you missed mentioning edd was 
there with the thompson tiger, how could you forget an engine like that! 
especially when Edd got up every 10 minutes to wipe off any little drops of 
oil that it may have got on it!
   Cheers
        Mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock Summerfield" <brock at netspeed.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sydney Rally


> Good pics as normal Patrick thanks for puting them up  you forgot to 
> mention
> Edd was there to with his Thompson tiger.
> regards Brock
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>;
> "Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:16 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
>
>
>>I finally have a couple of minutes spare so a report on last weekend is in
>> order :)
>> Our club had its annual rally last weekend and the feature was IHC. There
>> was a good line up of IHC engines, tractors, trucks and implements. The
>> weather was perfect (unusual for this rally).
>> A few list members were present, Brad even brought his big 10hp M out of
>> hiding and made the long trip down. Of course, as the feature was IHC I
>> exhibited my Stover, Brock had his White and Gilson, Michael had a Witte 
>> &
>> Cam had his Austral. The rest of the list members did manage to have IHC
>> engines so that made up for us ;)
>> The mighty YC Stover had its first failure after much running at rallies
>> since its debut last December. It broke the return spring on the Webster
>> ignitor. It is of course in a fiddly spot and the engine was very hot so
>> it
>> was not fun to replace. New spring in place and the engine was running
>> again. The Webster gets a fairly hard time on the throttle governed 
>> engine
>> as it is continually being tripped unlike on the hit and miss when it 
>> gets
>> a
>> bit of a break when the engine is missing.
>> It was another fantastic weekend with nice engines and great people. I
>> will
>> hopefully have some pics up on my site on the weekend. I took over 400
>> photos so there is a lot to sort through.
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 07:12:50 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:12:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>

Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off List" 
in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so many of 
you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message I have 
been sending to individuals to the group.

As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now truck 
shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 Chevrolet 
with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 87,000 miles on 
it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking $14,000 for it and has 
come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the original owner and he said no. 
He told me he bought it from the man who had originally bought it and that 
this man was a pipeliner and used the truck to pull a mobile home from job 
to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and then this guy that has it now bought 
it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and he started out pulling a large camper 
trailer with it and then just used it for general transportation and pulling 
a 12' trailer with various things on it.

My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, do 
you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear in 
the drive train?

According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded in.

I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know what 
you think.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


>
>
> Paul Maples wrote:
>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
> What do you have in mind?
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From marvhed at ecenet.com  Sat Sep 23 07:19:44 2006
From: marvhed at ecenet.com (MARVIN HEDBERG)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:19:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
In-Reply-To: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <30535.199.62.0.252.1159021184.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net>

tommy,
thanks for the sad report.
i'll always remember the time about 10 yrs ago when i picked up a 5"
Ericsson at 2 AM from mike. he was still up at his computer and welcomed
us with a BIG smile. he will be greatly missed.

marv in minn


he was havin> I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has
passed away.
> Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several
> years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember
> him and his family in your prayers.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
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From SmithEngines at aol.com  Sat Sep 23 07:49:24 2006
From: SmithEngines at aol.com (SmithEngines at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:49:24 EDT
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
Message-ID: <d8.3e847180.3246a374@aol.com>

Thanx a million for posting Mikes passing on the list he is looking down on 
you and smiling 

                                                                              
          Marilyn
                                                                              
              His Wife



From bboyce at swat.coop  Sat Sep 23 07:51:36 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:51:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
	<003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000801c6df1f$c5004fb0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

paul, i dont think drive train wear would be an issue,,,however, i never was 
much on paying more for something than its worth,,,but if it the body is 
straight, interior nice and clean, reasonable rubber left, and it fits your 
needs, then maybe it would be worth a tic more than blue book....
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off 
> List" in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so 
> many of you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message 
> I have been sending to individuals to the group.
>
> As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now 
> truck shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 
> Chevrolet with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 
> 87,000 miles on it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking 
> $14,000 for it and has come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the 
> original owner and he said no. He told me he bought it from the man who 
> had originally bought it and that this man was a pipeliner and used the 
> truck to pull a mobile home from job to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and 
> then this guy that has it now bought it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and 
> he started out pulling a large camper trailer with it and then just used 
> it for general transportation and pulling a 12' trailer with various 
> things on it.
>
> My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, 
> do you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear 
> in the drive train?
>
> According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
> consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded 
> in.
>
> I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
> buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know 
> what you think.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
>
>
>>
>>
>> Paul Maples wrote:
>>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
>> What do you have in mind?
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve W.
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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> 




From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Sep 23 08:24:55 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:24:55 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
	<003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV4A8B0624EF49BF1A19820BB260@phx.gbl>

Hi Paul;
  I owned a '93 (might have been a '91) Big Block 454, throttle body 
injected, in a motorhome and was happy with it.  Automatic transmission 
responded well in the Rockies.  I have read tho that exh. manifolds have 
been known to crack...hopefully they got that prob fixed..to my knowledge, 
mine never did.
  You're talking crewcab and if it's a long box, well that's a pretty long 
truck for getting around town, i.e. parking lots, tight turns and such.
  I also concur..drivetrain should be fine. If automatic..smell the tranny 
fluid, you'll be able to tell if it's burnt.
  Gas mileage, I'd say not to expect any more than 15...probably less.

  2wd or 4wd....2wd is fine on pavement.  Hauling iron to shows..should be 
great..everyday get around town rig..naw

  Hope this helps a little and super happy your Grandson is OK!!!

Regards,
RickinMt. 



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sat Sep 23 10:42:23 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:42:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
	<003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61>

Go drive the Chevy in a parking lot. Mine has such horrible turning radius 
it needs independent rear brakes like a tractor!!!! Also mine is 2wd and 
will get stuck on wet grass. Other than that no other complaints.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off 
> List" in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so 
> many of you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message 
> I have been sending to individuals to the group.
>
> As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now 
> truck shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 
> Chevrolet with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 
> 87,000 miles on it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking 
> $14,000 for it and has come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the 
> original owner and he said no. He told me he bought it from the man who 
> had originally bought it and that this man was a pipeliner and used the 
> truck to pull a mobile home from job to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and 
> then this guy that has it now bought it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and 
> he started out pulling a large camper trailer with it and then just used 
> it for general transportation and pulling a 12' trailer with various 
> things on it.
>
> My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, 
> do you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear 
> in the drive train?
>
> According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
> consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded 
> in.
>
> I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
> buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know 
> what you think.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
>
>
>>
>>
>> Paul Maples wrote:
>>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
>> What do you have in mind?
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve W.
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From davidheggie at sympatico.ca  Sat Sep 23 12:11:10 2006
From: davidheggie at sympatico.ca (David Heggie)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:11:10 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
Message-ID: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>

Hi All. 

Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.

I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
appreciated.

I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
iron horse kick start engines.

thank you
david heggie
lachute,quebec canada


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Sep 23 12:32:31 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:32:31 +0100
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609231232r26f7c1adhaab3f9a2e04d3f6@mail.gmail.com>

On 23/09/06, David Heggie <davidheggie at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
> the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
> also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.
>
> I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
> appreciated.
>
> I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
> different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
> iron horse kick start engines.
>
> thank you
> david heggie
>

There are a load of oddball tapping/drilling/thread size tables on our
webpages under the Mechanical Tables section.

The BA table is at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Tables/ba1.htm

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From nick at holden1.net  Sat Sep 23 12:35:17 2006
From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:35:17 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <45158C72.000001.01708@YOUR-447023AE6B>

Look hear
It has all types of drill sizes
 
 http://homepages.tesco.net/~A10bsa/sizesgo.htm
 
 
 
Nick
Banbury (UK)
http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: David Heggie
Date: 09/23/06 20:26:41
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
 
Hi All.
 
Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.
 
I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
appreciated.
 
I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
iron horse kick start engines.
 
thank you
david heggie
lachute,quebec canada
_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 12:37:28 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:37:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net><003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <00a101c6df47$b4982620$240110ac@FAMILY>

Darn John, it sounds like that other than being almost worthless it is a 
good truck. You, and others, have definitely convinced me that if I get a 
3/4 ton truck it needs to be 4WD, I would hate to get stuck in my own 
driveway. Appreciate the advice.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Go drive the Chevy in a parking lot. Mine has such horrible turning radius 
> it needs independent rear brakes like a tractor!!!! Also mine is 2wd and 
> will get stuck on wet grass. Other than that no other complaints.
>
> John
> ----- 




From jdohagan at comcast.net  Sat Sep 23 14:33:11 2006
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:33:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <20060923213315.2963F313C24@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>

Hi Paul, For what its worth,I have a 02 Chevy ,Silverado HD2500,4x4 with a
6.6 Duramax and Allison auto trans. It's a LT with all the toys, but the
important part is ,it's been trouble free, gets 19+ MPG up hill/down hill
with a 2000+Lb load in the back sometimes. The tranny is set up for towing
heavy loads. The gas big block loves gas. Unless you have a need for it 'I'd
pass on it. The standard 6.0 L  will get the job done. If you can find one
that was a "pet" pay a little more for it rather than a "Mule". Jimmy
O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236
Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:13 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner

Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off List" 
in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so many of 
you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message I have 
been sending to individuals to the group.

As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now truck

shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 Chevrolet 
with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 87,000 miles on

it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking $14,000 for it and has

come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the original owner and he said no.

He told me he bought it from the man who had originally bought it and that 
this man was a pipeliner and used the truck to pull a mobile home from job 
to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and then this guy that has it now bought 
it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and he started out pulling a large camper 
trailer with it and then just used it for general transportation and pulling

a 12' trailer with various things on it.

My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, do

you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear in 
the drive train?

According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded in.

I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know what

you think.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


>
>
> Paul Maples wrote:
>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
> What do you have in mind?
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 


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From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 24 05:06:17 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:06:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net><003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY><002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<00a101c6df47$b4982620$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <002601c6dfd1$d8698230$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>

How'd you know I got stuck in 4 inches of snow 50 ft from the house!?!?!? I 
think part of the problem was the 10 ply tires on the truck when I got it. 
Replaced them with something not so stiff and it does seem to grip better. 
As for parking lots you get used to backing into spaces. I must admit the 
ride quality on mine is GREAT! The only thing I really dislike about mine is 
the lack of 4wd. Maybe on the next truck......

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Darn John, it sounds like that other than being almost worthless it is a 
> good truck. You, and others, have definitely convinced me that if I get a 
> 3/4 ton truck it needs to be 4WD, I would hate to get stuck in my own 
> driveway. Appreciate the advice.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
>
>
>> Go drive the Chevy in a parking lot. Mine has such horrible turning 
>> radius it needs independent rear brakes like a tractor!!!! Also mine is 
>> 2wd and will get stuck on wet grass. Other than that no other complaints.
>>
>> John
>> ----- 
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 24 05:12:42 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:12:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>

Try this site anytime you run into oddball threads---I use them at work 
quite often.
www.marylandmetrics.com

Am I correct that BA threads are the same as Whitworth?

John Hall


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Heggie" <davidheggie at sympatico.ca>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap


Hi All.

Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.

I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
appreciated.

I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
iron horse kick start engines.

thank you
david heggie
lachute,quebec canada
_______________________________________________




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 18:51:49 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:51:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work
Message-ID: <011f01c6df7c$0070a980$240110ac@FAMILY>

Folks I just wanted to give all of you a heads up on a new free forum that just became active this week, it is not on the worldwide web yet but I am told by Howard it will be by this coming week.

Although the site is primarily for folks looking for help with learning Autobody Work and Painting it has a miscellaneous tab that you can go to and Howard will help you with any questions you may have on preparing and painting sheetmetal, iron, plastic, etc.  You can also discuss tools, methods, or just about anything else that relates to working and preparing metal to acquire great finishes. Howard promotes what he calls Howard's Backyard Auto Body training. He is a professional paint and body man who loves to share his knowledge with others and he has assured me he would love to hear from all of the old engine collectors if you need advice on preparing and painting metal to include our old iron. He is a super nice guy and you will love his earthly and down home approach to low cost body and metal work.

The forum is brand new, just came on the web this last week so go and visit the site, register, and become part of what I think will be a new and exciting forum that can help some of us in the hobby. Here is the URL address:

http://www.howardsbackyardautobody.com/phpBB2/index.php

Paul


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 08:25:00 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:25:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
References: <d8.3e847180.3246a374@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006201c6df24$6fd032d0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Marilyn, I am so sorry to hear of Mike's passing, I never got to meet Mike 
but I bought an engine from him and it was picked up by another friend of 
mine and brought to the Portland Engine show where I picked it up. Mike and 
I conversed a lot by e-mail and by phone. I still have the engine, it is 
still setting where I put it the day I brought it home from Portland. Now 
everytime I look at it I will be reminded that it came from a good friend 
who has now gone to be with the Lord.

May God grant you and your family a peace that surpasses all understanding 
as another of our beloved engine men has departed this life for one where 
there will be no suffering, no tears, no heartaches, just joy and peace.

God Bless and Keep You,

Paul in Arkansas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <SmithEngines at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] A friend's passing


> Thanx a million for posting Mikes passing on the list he is looking down 
> on
> you and smiling
>
>
>          Marilyn
>
>              His Wife
>
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> 




From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Sep 24 06:10:35 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:10:35 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net><003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY><002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61><00a101c6df47$b4982620$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<002601c6dfd1$d8698230$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV439DBA1C2C7D2AD20C574BB270@phx.gbl>




> > Darn John, it sounds like that other than being almost worthless it is a
> > good truck. You, and others, have definitely convinced me that if I get 
> > a
> > 3/4 ton truck it needs to be 4WD, I would hate to get stuck in my own
> > driveway. Appreciate the advice.
> >
> > Paul

   When I got my first 4wd, they said: "Now you're REALLY GONNA GET STUCK," 
They were right!!!!

   OTOH, Paul, 4wd, or actually 3/4 ton will probably mean "Nerf Bars" for 
step up.  Bright side...you can look down into the rag top Porche's...we 
won't go there.

  Good Luck
  RickinMt. 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep 24 06:11:55 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:11:55 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
Message-ID: <46c.7bab0d00.3247de1b@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/23/2006 2:26:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
pml1 at bigpond.net.au writes:

Patrick,

Enjoyed looking at all the photos.  Some very nice International engines 
there.  

Thanks,


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Sep 24 06:12:18 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:12:18 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <005f01c6df0a$ce69b920$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Dave,
	The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is also
one on this engine:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----


Hi Patrick, Very Nice pictures.
The IHC Tom Thumb
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061005.JPG
is different to the one I owned & I have never seen one before using a
magneto.
It seems to be driven by the belt drive cog! Were these fitted by the Oz
importer?
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Sep 24 06:15:02 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:15:02 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Winch
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV14110EC03EA0E3908A50DEBB270@phx.gbl>

  A while back, a certain winch maker made a thread. It wasn't Warn.  Anyone 
have the name/web address for that winch?  If I remember right, it was quite 
popular with the SEL folks.

  TIA,
RickinMt. 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep 24 06:41:53 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:41:53 EDT
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work
Message-ID: <32f.bcb3756.3247e521@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/24/2006 9:35:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes:

<< Although the site is primarily for folks looking for help with learning 
Autobody Work and Painting >>


Paul,

Thinking about fixing up your wrecked truck yourself?

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From don.h at wcoil.com  Sun Sep 24 08:01:11 2006
From: don.h at wcoil.com (don.)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:01:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work
References: <011f01c6df7c$0070a980$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000a01c6dfea$45fda570$6500a8c0@PREFERREB23498>

Its up right now I just joined  nice site..will be very helpful
tnx
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: "Howard Holland" <howardsautobody at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work


Folks I just wanted to give all of you a heads up on a new free forum that 
just became active this week, it is not on the worldwide web yet but I am 
told by Howard it will be by this coming week.

Although the site is primarily for folks looking for help with learning 
Autobody Work and Painting it has a miscellaneous tab that you can go to and 
Howard will help you with any questions you may have on preparing and 
painting sheetmetal, iron, plastic, etc.  You can also discuss tools, 
methods, or just about anything else that relates to working and preparing 
metal to acquire great finishes. Howard promotes what he calls Howard's 
Backyard Auto Body training. He is a professional paint and body man who 
loves to share his knowledge with others and he has assured me he would love 
to hear from all of the old engine collectors if you need advice on 
preparing and painting metal to include our old iron. He is a super nice guy 
and you will love his earthly and down home approach to low cost body and 
metal work.

The forum is brand new, just came on the web this last week so go and visit 
the site, register, and become part of what I think will be a new and 
exciting forum that can help some of us in the hobby. Here is the URL 
address:

http://www.howardsbackyardautobody.com/phpBB2/index.php

Paul
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From shop at cccomm.net  Sun Sep 24 08:26:45 2006
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:26:45 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Winch
References: <BAY109-DAV14110EC03EA0E3908A50DEBB270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <015801c6dfed$d8750a30$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>

What I recall is Harbor Freight's Chigaco Brand electric winch. I bought the 
9000lb model and love it.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "sel" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: [SEL] Winch


>  A while back, a certain winch maker made a thread. It wasn't Warn. 
> Anyone have the name/web address for that winch?  If I remember right, it 
> was quite popular with the SEL folks.
>
>  TIA,
> RickinMt.
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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> 



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sun Sep 24 08:27:13 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:27:13 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <006c01c6dfed$ea8d9bb0$3ac10b52@no1>

Thanks Patrick. Looking at that it looks like the magneto is
fitted in place of the slow speed drive pulley.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Hi Dave,
> The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
> little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
> actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is also
> one on this engine:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> 
> Hi Patrick, Very Nice pictures.
> The IHC Tom Thumb
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061005.JPG
> is different to the one I owned & I have never seen one before using a
> magneto.
> It seems to be driven by the belt drive cog! Were these fitted by the Oz
> importer?
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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> 
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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun Sep 24 09:34:01 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:34:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
	<003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>

Not really. B.A. is British Association. A standard for small threads, 
below about 1/4". Dates back to the 1800s, but the dimensions are 
actually metric-based. The thread profile is much narrower than 
Whitworth. Details are online on a bunch of sites, some of which have 
already been cited.

Interestingly enough, the small screws on Mauser rifles are B.A., and 
the big threads on the barrel are Whitworth. The original machine tools 
Mauser Werke used came from England, and all subsequent Mauser 
licensees have stuck with the English thread standards.

If anyone needs any B.A. #1 x 1" cheesehead screws or hex nuts, let me 
know. I had to order a pretty good bunch from 
http://britishfasteners.com/ to meet their minimum order when I tore up 
the funny looking round, slotted nut on the barrel band of my 
Czech-built M98/29 Persian Mauser.

John

On Sep 24, 2006, at 8:12 AM, John Hall wrote:

> Try this site anytime you run into oddball threads---I use them at 
> work quite often.
> www.marylandmetrics.com
>
> Am I correct that BA threads are the same as Whitworth?
>
> John Hall


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun Sep 24 09:37:45 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:37:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
	<003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <42e8e84d5e2e1023a0ef1d4646637b0e@chartertn.net>

Here's yet another page on B.A. screws, with data and a bit of history:
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/bathrd.htm

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sun Sep 24 09:56:28 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:56:28 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<006c01c6dfed$ea8d9bb0$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <000301c6dffa$621a32e0$3ac10b52@no1>



> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
>> little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
>> actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is also
>> one on this engine:
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG
>> Patrick M Livingstone

> Thanks Patrick. Looking at that it looks like the magneto is
> fitted in place of the slow speed drive pulley.

Just to show what I was on about see 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2938401560028520097LQXbfx
Then look at the drawing on the next picture. (It will enlarge)

> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun Sep 24 10:36:55 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:36:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
	<003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <45d211bf52a2c69c83f7377d18c47652@chartertn.net>

If you squint real hard and look right by my left thumb in this 
picture, you can see that B.A. #1 screw and nut:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeWithPersian.jpg

:-D

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep 24 15:55:16 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:55:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML><006c01c6dfed$ea8d9bb0$3ac10b52@no1>
	<000301c6dffa$621a32e0$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <002101c6e02c$81311c20$ecf1ecdc@domain.invalid>

Hi all.This is normally how it goes.The IHC 1HP TITAN came with low tension
battery ignition.Optional set ups were offered by IHC.They were: Mag bkt on
bearing cap with an idler gear and Sumpter Jr mag.Same again but with Slow
speed pulley between mag and crank.(my engine has this set up) or Just slow
speed pulley drive and no mag. They also offered a Webster set up but I have
never seen one only in a catalogue that I have. The TOM THUMB was normally
High tension battery buzz coil ignition.IHC didn't give any other option
except for the low speed pulley set up.My TOM THUMB had a mag bkt of a TITAN
put on it and it seems this was done by another restorer and was nor
original.All the other TOM THUMBS I have seen with a mag bkt have had this
done to them by the same restorer here in OZ.This option was not offered by
IHC in any of there catalogues and does not show up in any of there parts
books.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
> >
> >> Hi Dave,
> >> The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
> >> little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
> >> actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is
also
> >> one on this engine:
> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG
> >> Patrick M Livingstone
>
> > Thanks Patrick. Looking at that it looks like the magneto is
> > fitted in place of the slow speed drive pulley.
>
> Just to show what I was on about see
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2938401560028520097LQXbfx
> Then look at the drawing on the next picture. (It will enlarge)
>
> > Dave Croft
> > Warrington
> > http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep 24 16:01:50 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:01:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER><003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61><10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
	<45d211bf52a2c69c83f7377d18c47652@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <002701c6e02d$6c1fa080$ecf1ecdc@domain.invalid>

B.A(British association) is was used in instrument making.I have a full set
of these from when I was into model trains and live steam locos.I still find
them handy as some British built mags use BA.When measured these sizes
measure up metric diameters.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Culp" <johnculp at chartertn.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap


> If you squint real hard and look right by my left thumb in this
> picture, you can see that B.A. #1 screw and nut:
>
> http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeWithPersian.jpg
>
> :-D
>
> John Culp
> Bristol, Tennessee, USA
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From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Sun Sep 24 00:41:17 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:41:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <002001c6dfac$d394c870$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Thanks very much Patrick for the great photo's and a great weekend too. 
Cheers Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of 
> them
> are on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
> Enjoy!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun Sep 24 16:36:07 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:36:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
In-Reply-To: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060924192528.02eed540@pop3.wcoil.com>

Sad news it is, Too many gone this year and some with dang close calls too.
I met Mike many years ago at a small show in Millersburg Ohio I think it 
was. It was a short lived show. In those days Mike had the good natured 
nickname of "Yukon" Mike. A funny story that was too the way Mike told it. 
Anyone else remember that nickname?
   I hadn't seen Mike in a couple years at least.
                                               Sincerely,  Mark

At 10:28 PM 9/22/06, you wrote:

>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.
>Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several 
>years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember 
>him and his family in your prayers.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY




From edurand at cybertron.com  Sun Sep 24 19:01:19 2006
From: edurand at cybertron.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:01:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBEEDMEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>

Arnie:

Thanks for your encouragement!  We are hoping that they will have new homes before the dead of winter.

Oh, yes - thanks for the link.  I may be putting some photos on my site in the next few days.  I'll let everyone know when they're up.

Take care - Elden
http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Arnie Fero
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 02:33 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Power Plant Update
> 
> 
> Hi Elden,
> 
> Your project sounds a helluva lot like the rescue 
> of three 3-cylinder
> Fairbanks-Morse generator outfits that were in a 
> power station in Long
> Lake, New York.  Check out some of the pics of 
> that project.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/fairbanks
> morse32.html
> 
> Good luck!!  It's worth saving those engines.  
> They are sweet runners and
> definitely crowd pleasers at any showgrounds.
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com 




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 24 17:53:27 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:53:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER><003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <006e01c6e03d$03c72ed0$07f34c0c@D48VHZ61>

Thanks for the info. It still amazes me the odd ball threads that keep 
coming up. If there aren't enough thread types and sizes already, we have a 
customer that uses really fine pitches and 60 deg form but bastard 
diameters.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Culp" <johnculp at chartertn.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap


> Not really. B.A. is British Association. A standard for small threads, 
> below about 1/4". Dates back to the 1800s, but the dimensions are actually 
> metric-based. The thread profile is much narrower than Whitworth. Details 
> are online on a bunch of sites, some of which have already been cited.
>
> Interestingly enough, the small screws on Mauser rifles are B.A., and the 
> big threads on the barrel are Whitworth. The original machine tools Mauser 
> Werke used came from England, and all subsequent Mauser licensees have 
> stuck with the English thread standards.
>
> If anyone needs any B.A. #1 x 1" cheesehead screws or hex nuts, let me 
> know. I had to order a pretty good bunch from http://britishfasteners.com/ 
> to meet their minimum order when I tore up the funny looking round, 
> slotted nut on the barrel band of my Czech-built M98/29 Persian Mauser.
>
> John
>
> On Sep 24, 2006, at 8:12 AM, John Hall wrote:
>
>> Try this site anytime you run into oddball threads---I use them at work 
>> quite often.
>> www.marylandmetrics.com
>>
>> Am I correct that BA threads are the same as Whitworth?
>>
>> John Hall
>
>
> John Culp
> Bristol, Tennessee, USA
> _______________________________________________
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> 




From old_iron at msn.com  Sun Sep 24 19:32:09 2006
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:32:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20060924192528.02eed540@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F352ECD9E6A17B04840472BE7240@phx.gbl>

It is often said bad news comes in 3's I hope this is the last for me, first 
my Dad on August 13, then Ted on the August 22 now Mike.

My thoughts and prayers go to Mike's family in their time of sorrow.

Please remember this old celtic saying:

If tears could build a stairway,
and memories a lane,
I would walk right up to heaven
and bring you home again.

Sincerly,
Bill & Peg Pfeiffer


>From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] A friend's passing
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:36:07 -0400
>
>Sad news it is, Too many gone this year and some with dang close calls too.
>I met Mike many years ago at a small show in Millersburg Ohio I think it 
>was. It was a short lived show. In those days Mike had the good natured 
>nickname of "Yukon" Mike. A funny story that was too the way Mike told it. 
>Anyone else remember that nickname?
>   I hadn't seen Mike in a couple years at least.
>                                               Sincerely,  Mark
>
>At 10:28 PM 9/22/06, you wrote:
>
>>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.
>>Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several years.  
>>He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember him and 
>>his family in your prayers.
>>
>>Tommy Turner
>>Magnolia, KY
>
>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 25 11:41:55 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:41:55 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R info & parts needed.
Message-ID: <200609252048406.SM00316@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys (especially the Aussies !)
         My 1928 Wolseley R Type is running well and I'm now on the "short 
strokes". Just need a bit of help and info.
         1) Can anyone give me the measurements for the silencer (muffler) 
on a 6 H.P. model?  The smaller version is 127mm diameter and I do not know 
if the 6 H.P. is the same or a larger diameter. I want to fabricate one 
(maybe just a false one as the engine runs very quietly just through a 
piece of 50mm pipe at the moment). If you have one or know of someone who 
has one I could mail a drawing showing which sizes I need. Thanks in advance.
         2) I'm missing the "U" tube on the carburettor. The engine runs 
fine without it as this is just to bring in warm air from the exhaust side 
for the paraffin (Kerosene) and I have actually "disabled" the other parts 
of the carb that have to do with paraffin - it will in future only run on 
petrol (gas to the guys in the States). Purely for the sake of originality 
I'd like to get one - even if I end up hanging it on a chain from the carb 
(it would run too hot for petrol). Alternatively I'd block it off on the 
exhaust side and drill air intake holes in the back of it where they would 
be unseen. If anyone has a spare lying around in a box please let me have a 
price. Remember it is for the 6 H.P. model - I do not know if the smaller 
engines used the same size - a few measurements from me should be able to 
clear it up pretty quickly.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From edurand at cybertron.com  Mon Sep 25 16:23:25 2006
From: edurand at cybertron.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:23:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <200609252048406.SM00316@new.databak.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEENEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>

Group:

Check out the link below for some pix of the power plant we are working on saving.

Take care - Elden

http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon Sep 25 15:36:55 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:36:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEENEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEENEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
Message-ID: <54f7ba7ea25375d163f924f4e95228a4@chartertn.net>

Man, that's cool stuff!

John

On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Elden DuRand wrote:

> Group:
>
> Check out the link below for some pix of the power plant we are 
> working on saving.
>
> Take care - Elden
>
> http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From wilson at stny.rr.com  Mon Sep 25 17:04:55 2006
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:04:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Winch
In-Reply-To: <015801c6dfed$d8750a30$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
Message-ID: <MCENKMDANOEBOLPLHFOOKELCDAAA.wilson@stny.rr.com>

I have purchased two Ramsey winches.
The second one hasn't been mounted yet.
The first one was a 2X2 mount, 5000 pound that I loved too - but it broke.

A friend told me he thought Warn was the best but he has seen lots of
broken Warn winches too.

I wouldn't have thought Chicago would be the best brand, but hey, Dave
loves his and it is still working...
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Dave Ernst
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:27 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Winch


What I recall is Harbor Freight's Chigaco Brand electric winch. I bought the
9000lb model and love it.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "sel" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: [SEL] Winch


>  A while back, a certain winch maker made a thread. It wasn't Warn.
> Anyone have the name/web address for that winch?  If I remember right, it
> was quite popular with the SEL folks.
>
>  TIA,
> RickinMt.
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>

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From edurand at cybertron.com  Mon Sep 25 21:48:25 2006
From: edurand at cybertron.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:48:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <54f7ba7ea25375d163f924f4e95228a4@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEFEEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>

John:

Heavy, too!

How 'ya a-doin'?  Did you ever finish your 10 kilowatt guitfiddle amplifier?

Take care - Elden

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of John Culp
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 05:37 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
> 
> 
> Man, that's cool stuff!
> 
> John




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 25 18:46:13 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:46:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
Message-ID: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>

Can some send me Bill and Peg Pfeiffer's e-mail address?

Thanks


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Tue Sep 26 04:32:37 2006
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:32:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
References: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001501c6e15f$77911f60$6a9decdc@morris>

There you go

"William J Pfeiffer Sr" <old_iron at msn.com>


Kerry


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 26 05:04:55 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:04:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
References: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<001501c6e15f$77911f60$6a9decdc@morris>
Message-ID: <002601c6e163$fb8d6f40$240110ac@FAMILY>

Got it from Dave Croft Kerry, thank so much for responding for me.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address


> There you go
> 
> "William J Pfeiffer Sr" <old_iron at msn.com>
> 
> 
> Kerry
> _______________________________________________




From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Sep 26 11:32:47 2006
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:32:47 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
Message-ID: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>

At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done another webpage about ploughing!
Earlier this month was a great steam ploughing event not far from us, with 13 sets of steam ploughs at work for the weekend.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/rempstone/rempstone.htm
In honour of this event, I was absolutely determined to learn to use our video camera AND download the resulting film to the PC, edit it and cut it to DVD.  This learning process in itself took a couple of weeks, mainly because Sony software is dreadful and the instruction manual neglets to point out that, while a USB cable is fine for a basic camera-PC connection, the only way to maintain quality is to use Firewire.  In the end, I worked it all out and the resulting film has been edited but, at 5GB for 30 mins of DVD quality, I can't currently find a way to make it widely shared, so if anyone has any ideas ...

Dolly
--
Jim French
fbi at insulate.co.uk
http://www.insulate.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 26 14:46:11 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:46:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEFEEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEFEEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
Message-ID: <51c443fb73fa68b2081d5fe690e95945@chartertn.net>

Not really. It's still at a stage where I need to make some revisions. 
Works, but not quite right. I've got another design on paper and all 
the parts to build that, too, but it's sitting upstairs. I've been 
pretty heavily into the guns, handloading and shooting lately. I cycle 
around among various interests.

John

On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:48 AM, Elden DuRand wrote:

> John:
>
> Heavy, too!
>
> How 'ya a-doin'?  Did you ever finish your 10 kilowatt guitfiddle 
> amplifier?
>
> Take care - Elden


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 26 14:47:40 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:47:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>

Where IS that axe handle when it's needed?

John

On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Jim French wrote:

> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done 
> another webpage about ploughing!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com  Tue Sep 26 14:54:37 2006
From: BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com (Barry  Gorman)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:54:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
References: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001c01c6e1b6$5c53c890$0100000a@userd6162315ba>


            Barry Gorman
    Hunter Valley NSW  AUSTRALIA
  BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address


The original message contained a virus.  The virus has been cleaned.  You 
may want to notify the sender of the virus. 



From rwenig at telus.net  Tue Sep 26 15:08:47 2006
From: rwenig at telus.net (Rupert Wenig)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:08:47 -0600
Subject: Large file distribution: was Re: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <4519A4EF.3030708@telus.net>

Hello Dolly,
	Another list had the same problem distributing a large file a few years 
ago. How they did it was for the author to send master copies to a 
volunteer in each region. The responsibility of the recipient in each 
region was to advertise the fact that they were making copies and send 
them to who ever wanted a copy in the region. Distribution worked quite 
well but it did take awhile for everyone to get a copy of the disk.

	Reimbursement was voluntary for costs. I don't recall how well the 
reimbursing went as I did much of the swapping by the barter system ( I 
sent a disk to you, you sent a disk on another subject back or to 
someone else). I was one of the volunteers. And, I offer my services 
again if it helps out. A policy has to be set up though so everyone 
knows what is going one.

Rupert

Jim French wrote:
> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done another webpage about ploughing!
> Earlier this month was a great steam ploughing event not far from us, with 13 sets of steam ploughs at work for the weekend.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/rempstone/rempstone.htm
> In honour of this event, I was absolutely determined to learn to use our video camera AND download the resulting film to the PC, edit it and cut it to DVD.  This learning process in itself took a couple of weeks, mainly because Sony software is dreadful and the instruction manual neglets to point out that, while a USB cable is fine for a basic camera-PC connection, the only way to maintain quality is to use Firewire.  In the end, I worked it all out and the resulting film has been edited but, at 5GB for 30 mins of DVD quality, I can't currently find a way to make it widely shared, so if anyone has any ideas ...
> 
> Dolly
> --
> Jim French
> fbi at insulate.co.uk
> http://www.insulate.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	
		
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From curt at imc-group.com  Tue Sep 26 15:22:15 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:22:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2006 pictures.....finally!
Message-ID: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>

Hi folks,
It took me a little while, but I've finally gotten some pictures up from 
Portland '06.
Can you find the two sleeping engine folks? One gal, one fella.
Hope you enjoy.....
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC
P.S. Devin took the pictures of Mel and of Arnie's Bessemer at night.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Portland2006/Thumbnails.html 



From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep 27 05:30:55 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:30:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <1955.165.206.180.19.1159360255.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

5gig is a bit huge for 30 minutes even at "DVD quality". If that were the
case, then no 1 hour movie could fit onto a standard DVD.
My recordings at "DVD quality" show more like 1.5 gig for 1 hour.
Makes sense since you can get a 120+ minute high-definition movie on a
single layer of a DVD.
You can only get a file size of 4.38 gig on a standard DVD, so 30 minutes
at a 5 gig file is a bit overkill.
Typically, to record to DVD, you can get daything up to 6 hours or more 
depending on the quality you need.

As a rough rule of thumb for various frame sizes (assuming a good MPEG
encoder):

Using 720 x 576/480 ('D1'), up to 2 hours at good > very good quality, up
to 3 hours for average quality.

Using 352 x 576/480 ('half D1'), up to 4 hours at good > average quality
(the pictures will be softer overall due to the reduced horizontal
resolution).
So for very good quality, 30 minutes should take no more than about 1gig.
I record at about 60 minutes to 1.2 gig or so. And on our high-def TV,
it's quite good.

Bill

> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done another
> webpage about ploughing!
> Earlier this month was a great steam ploughing event not far from us, with
> 13 sets of steam ploughs at work for the weekend.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/rempstone/rempstone.htm
> In honour of this event, I was absolutely determined to learn to use our
> video camera AND download the resulting film to the PC, edit it and cut it
> to DVD.  This learning process in itself took a couple of weeks, mainly
> because Sony software is dreadful and the instruction manual neglets to
> point out that, while a USB cable is fine for a basic camera-PC
> connection, the only way to maintain quality is to use Firewire.  In the
> end, I worked it all out and the resulting film has been edited but, at
> 5GB for 30 mins of DVD quality, I can't currently find a way to make it
> widely shared, so if anyone has any ideas ...
>
> Dolly
> --
> Jim French
> fbi at insulate.co.uk
> http://www.insulate.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Wed Sep 27 06:05:54 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:05:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> HUGE movie files
Message-ID: <C13FC542.33A9%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

Hi Dolly,
This morning I received an email approving my request for YouTube?s Director
Program.  It took about twelve hours.  Clearly, they have no standards.
They?ll believe anything you tell them.

You don?t need to be a director to upload videos under 10 minutes, but for
your huge video, you?ll need the Director?s account.  It?s all free.


The quality isn?t all that bad for what you get and the downloads are
speedy. 

Check it out.  
http://www.youtube.com/group/engines



     
 
     Rob Skinner
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com











From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Wed Sep 27 07:08:11 2006
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:08:11 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<1955.165.206.180.19.1159360255.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <004001c6e23e$5e25e7b0$0200a8c0@fbi>

Hey, Bill - This is a BIG improvement.  When I first started playing around 
with the video, they were coming up at 60GB and the quality was dreadful!

Dolly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill at antique-engines.com>


> 5gig is a bit huge for 30 minutes even at "DVD quality". If that were the
> case, then no 1 hour movie could fit onto a standard DVD.



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 27 07:12:03 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:12:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi John,

Ask and ye shall receive.  Here's the "baseline" measurement that we did
at Portland in 2003.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/axhandle1.jpg

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, John Culp wrote:

> Where IS that axe handle when it's needed?
>
> On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Dolly French wrote:
>
> > At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done
> > another webpage about ploughing!



From d.fleming at sasktel.net  Wed Sep 27 08:33:54 2006
From: d.fleming at sasktel.net (Don & Kay Fleming)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:33:54 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
Message-ID: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>

Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a 
reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to attend.

Don Fleming
Kipling, Sk. Canada
<d.fleming at sasktel.net>



> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ml] Auction - wow!
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:14:45 -0600
> From: Russ Kepler <russ at kepler-eng.com>
> Reply-To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
> To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
>
> http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>
>
> 



From curt at imc-group.com  Wed Sep 27 10:38:03 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:38:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland 2006
	pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem>
References: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>
	<003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem>
Message-ID: <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>

Clem,
I added the names of what I knew to the thumbnail's page. Hope this 
helps some.
Turns out there were 3 pictures of sleeping listers.....did you see the 
picture of Jim Dunmeyer?
Curt
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Portland2006/Thumbnails.html

Clem Davidson (Johannesburg RSA) wrote:

> Curt - fascinating pics! You must have had a LOT of fun.
> Any chance of your compiling an Index so that we (I) might know what 
> it is that appears in the shot?
> #177 looks as if the governor is tensioned with rubber bands? !!
> Regards,
> Clem.
>
> Clem Davidson
> Johannesburg South Africa
>



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 27 10:19:08 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland 2006
	pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
References: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>
	<003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem>
	<451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271317020.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Curt,

> Turns out there were 3 pictures of sleeping listers.....did you see the
> picture of Jim Dunmeyer?

There are more pics of "sleeping listers" if you'd care to add 'em.  Let
me know and I'll send 'em to you.  BTW, Mel's thumbnail doesn't connect to
her pic.

See ya,  Arnie




From swebre at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 11:02:03 2006
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:02:03 +0000
Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
In-Reply-To: <200609271600.k8RG04Xl022526@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F259AC002B8FA9C3C7802FDB1A0@phx.gbl>


>Hi folks,
>It took me a little while, but I've finally gotten some pictures up from 
>Portland '06.
>Can you find the two sleeping engine folks? One gal, one fella.
>Hope you enjoy.....
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
>P.S. Devin took the pictures of Mel and of Arnie's Bessemer at night.

Curt,

LOL!

Hmmmm.  Nice try on shucking the blame, but Devin didn't MAKE you post that 
picture...

You better bring a wide brim hat and a first aid kit to Portland next year.  
When my Lovely gets done w/ you, that knot on your forehead will be hard to 
hide!

-Steve-

PS - She won't forget....




From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 11:40:22 2006
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:40:22 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland
	2006pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271317020.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY105-F215F4C049D948C8BE852FFC81A0@phx.gbl>

Try hitting refresh/reload Arnie. The old engine web pages have been loading 
different pictures than they are supposed to lately.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA

P.S. Great pictures Curt!! I've still got to get my Portland pictures 
loaded. Maybe after I get my new engine off my trailer. A 15 hp Reid.
==========================

>From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>
>Hi Curt,
>
>BTW, Mel's thumbnail doesn't connect to her pic.
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>




From oldironnut at alltel.net  Wed Sep 27 12:10:47 2006
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:10:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland 2006 pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
References: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>
	<003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem> <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <p06230900c1407a724fb2@[172.21.24.99]>

>>#177 looks as if the governor is tensioned with rubber bands? !!

Clem,

I'll fess up to owning the Famous with rubber bands tensioning the 
governor!  The engine, a 1907 IHC Famous sold as an Osborne, is 
mounted on a buzz saw rig and I had only finished putting the saw rig 
back together and getting it belted up the week before Portland.  The 
springs that I had on the governor were a good tension for running 
the engine slow but I didn't have time to try a handful of springs to 
find the right combination of springs to run fast enough to saw.  So, 
rubber bands were called into action and they did their job, they 
didn't look very pretty but they did their job :-)!

See ya',
Mike
-- 
_____________________
Mike Tucker
Midway, Kentucky, USA
_____________________


From curt at imc-group.com  Wed Sep 27 12:53:37 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:53:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F259AC002B8FA9C3C7802FDB1A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY104-F259AC002B8FA9C3C7802FDB1A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <451AD6C1.9080406@imc-group.com>

I can hear Jen laughing right now, just as if she was standing beside me!
Curt

>
> Curt,
>
> LOL!
>
> Hmmmm.  Nice try on shucking the blame, but Devin didn't MAKE you post 
> that picture...
>
> You better bring a wide brim hat and a first aid kit to Portland next 
> year.  When my Lovely gets done w/ you, that knot on your forehead 
> will be hard to hide!
>
> -Steve-
>
> PS - She won't forget....
>
>



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep 27 14:05:50 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:05:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
References: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>
Message-ID: <001b01c6e278$b69419f0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>

Wish I could get to this auction.I have visited with the vendor and seen his 
collection when in the US in 1996.Many of these engines were restored by our 
late friend Tedd Brookover and are state of the art.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don & Kay Fleming" <d.fleming at sasktel.net>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:33 AM
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]


> Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a 
> reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to 
> attend.
>
> Don Fleming
> Kipling, Sk. Canada
> <d.fleming at sasktel.net>
>
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [ml] Auction - wow!
>> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:14:45 -0600
>> From: Russ Kepler <russ at kepler-eng.com>
>> Reply-To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
>> To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
>>
>> http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep 27 15:37:56 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:37:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <34e944a31ee748cb8a93624b18d0eb9d@chartertn.net>

Yeah, but that was 3 years ago! You don't suppose that axe handle's 
shrunk any in the interim, do you?

John

On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Ask and ye shall receive.  Here's the "baseline" measurement that we 
> did
> at Portland in 2003.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/axhandle1.jpg
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, John Culp wrote:
>
>> Where IS that axe handle when it's needed?
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Dolly French wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done
>>> another webpage about ploughing!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 27 17:08:27 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:08:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Looking for Bill Pfiffer
Message-ID: <00a801c6e292$3939f500$240110ac@FAMILY>

Anyone heard from Peg or Bill Pfeiffer lately. I sent them an e-mail a couple of days ago and have not heard back from them.

Paul



From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 20:39:15 2006
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:39:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
In-Reply-To: <200609271600.k8RG04Xc022527@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY126-F3971EE9F3966E118B5C0A8CB1B0@phx.gbl>

>>Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a
reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to attend.

>>Don Fleming
>>Kipling, Sk. Canada
><d.fleming at sasktel.net>

>http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>

As you can see from the pictures, Ray has an excellent eye for choosing his 
toys.  Most of Ray's engines are museum quality restorations.  You will 
likely see things there you've not seen before.

I haven't been active in MoKan Antique Power Association for a couple of 
years, but Ray is/was the president of the club for some  years, and 
graciously provides/provided the meeting place.  If you are within range, 
this will be  fine auction.

Probably Tim Christoff can provide more info if anyone needs it.


Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway




From garyepps at fidnet.com  Wed Sep 27 22:33:52 2006
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:33:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
References: <BAY126-F3971EE9F3966E118B5C0A8CB1B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701c6e2bf$b17d07f0$4e83fb40@gary>

When visiting Ray's collection several years ago with Ted Brookover, Ted 
pointed out several of Ray's engines that he (Ted) had restored for Ray.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Younger" <sluggo54 at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction


>>>Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a
> reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to 
> attend.
>
>>>Don Fleming
>>>Kipling, Sk. Canada
>><d.fleming at sasktel.net>
>
>>http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>>
>
> As you can see from the pictures, Ray has an excellent eye for choosing 
> his toys.  Most of Ray's engines are museum quality restorations.  You 
> will likely see things there you've not seen before.
>
> I haven't been active in MoKan Antique Power Association for a couple of 
> years, but Ray is/was the president of the club for some  years, and 
> graciously provides/provided the meeting place.  If you are within range, 
> this will be  fine auction.
>
> Probably Tim Christoff can provide more info if anyone needs it.
>
>
> Bruce Younger
> 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
> Madison, SD
> sluggo54 at hotmail.com
>
> "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
> thereafter."
> E. Hemingway
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From garyepps at fidnet.com  Wed Sep 27 23:06:15 2006
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:06:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
References: <BAY126-F3971EE9F3966E118B5C0A8CB1B0@phx.gbl>
	<000701c6e2bf$b17d07f0$4e83fb40@gary>
Message-ID: <005701c6e2c4$36bb4db0$4e83fb40@gary>

Oops! Got in late tonight and started from the top of the mail, newest 
first, and didn't see that Edd Payne made this point earlier.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Epps" <garyepps at fidnet.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ray France Auction


> When visiting Ray's collection several years ago with Ted Brookover, Ted 
> pointed out several of Ray's engines that he (Ted) had restored for Ray.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Younger" <sluggo54 at hotmail.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
>
>
>>>>Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a
>> reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to 
>> attend.
>>
>>>>Don Fleming
>>>>Kipling, Sk. Canada
>>><d.fleming at sasktel.net>
>>
>>>http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>>>
>>
>> As you can see from the pictures, Ray has an excellent eye for choosing 
>> his toys.  Most of Ray's engines are museum quality restorations.  You 
>> will likely see things there you've not seen before.
>>
>> I haven't been active in MoKan Antique Power Association for a couple of 
>> years, but Ray is/was the president of the club for some  years, and 
>> graciously provides/provided the meeting place.  If you are within range, 
>> this will be  fine auction.
>>
>> Probably Tim Christoff can provide more info if anyone needs it.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Younger
>> 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
>> Madison, SD
>> sluggo54 at hotmail.com
>>
>> "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
>> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
>> thereafter."
>> E. Hemingway
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From oldironnut at alltel.net  Thu Sep 28 05:29:11 2006
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:29:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
In-Reply-To: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>
References: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>
Message-ID: <p06230900c1416ff3bfd6@[172.21.24.99]>

http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/

That looks like and amazing collection!  Steve Barr, are you planning 
on going to this?  If not will anyone else be going that would be 
willing to provide a Steve quality auction report complete with 
selling prices?

See ya',
Mike
-- 
_____________________
Mike Tucker
Midway, Kentucky, USA
_____________________


From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Thu Sep 28 07:13:49 2006
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
In-Reply-To: <p06230900c1416ff3bfd6@[172.21.24.99]>
Message-ID: <20060928141349.72441.qmail@web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike

There is a chance that I will be making the run out there.  I am waiting
on hearing from a fellow collector who is interested in going as well.

Since I will not be going to CPM this fall, I guess this will be the next
best thing...

Steve

--- Mike Tucker <oldironnut at alltel.net> wrote:

>
http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
> 
> That looks like and amazing collection!  Steve Barr, are you planning 
> on going to this?  If not will anyone else be going that would be 
> willing to provide a Steve quality auction report complete with 
> selling prices?
> 
> See ya',
> Mike
> -- 
> _____________________
> Mike Tucker
> Midway, Kentucky, USA
> _____________________
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 28 07:17:49 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <34e944a31ee748cb8a93624b18d0eb9d@chartertn.net>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<34e944a31ee748cb8a93624b18d0eb9d@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609281016550.40608@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey John, want some advice?  Don't go there.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, John Culp wrote:

> Yeah, but that was 3 years ago! You don't suppose that axe handle's
> shrunk any in the interim, do you?
>
> On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> >
> > Ask and ye shall receive.  Here's the "baseline" measurement that we
> > did at Portland in 2003.
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/axhandle1.jpg



From Ratzandcatz at aol.com  Thu Sep 28 12:57:21 2006
From: Ratzandcatz at aol.com (Ratzandcatz at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:57:21 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
Message-ID: <4c2.93fb88e.324d8321@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/28/2006 5:56:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
oldironnut at alltel.net writes:

Steve  Barr, are you planning 
on going to this?  If not will anyone else be  going that would be 
willing to provide a Steve quality auction report  complete with 
selling prices?



Actually, Nixon Auctioneers does a very good job of posting the sold prices  
on their website.  Interesting to go back and see what items have brought  in 
the past.
Mell
Ratman



From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu Sep 28 17:17:03 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:17:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order to 
pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like 
a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday! 
Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting 
the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie 
will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be 
home and to have the Austral in my drive.
	Dave
PS, Pictures soon
PPS, Life is GOOD!



From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Sep 29 02:56:44 2006
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:56:44 +0000
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <092920060956.3510.451CEDDC000CA75A00000DB6219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Very nice prize Dave.  Are you going to bring your new toy to Baraboo next 
year?
Curt


> Hi All,
> 	Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order 
> to 
> pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
> home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
> was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
> Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like 
> a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday! 
> Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting 
> the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie 
> will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be 
> home and to have the Austral in my drive.
> 	Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep 29 03:46:09 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:46:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <451CF971.7010901@imc-group.com>

Dave,
Congratulation on a beautiful, beautiful engine!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi All,
>     Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in 
> order to pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I 
> got home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile 
> trip! It was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to 
> Kelley and Rob! Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy 
> to start and ran like a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of 
> the morning on Sunday! Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and 
> Kelley taught me re: starting the engine! Jake Faith will be here on 
> Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie will be over on Sunday so that we 
> can "play engine" then. It's good to be home and to have the Austral 
> in my drive.
>     Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Fri Sep 29 04:10:47 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:10:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001901c6e3b7$ea70f730$ecf1ecdc@Edd>

That's great .I am sure you will have a great time playing with your new 
toy.they are one well built engine and go great.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!


> Hi All,
> Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order to 
> pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
> home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
> was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
> Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran 
> like a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on 
> Sunday! Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: 
> starting the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy 
> and Arnie will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's 
> good to be home and to have the Austral in my drive.
> Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 29 04:52:48 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:52:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
	<451CF971.7010901@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c6e3bd$c9c84ff0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Hey Dave, a great engine and one that will bring a lot of excitement to the 
hobby. Glad you made it back safely and had a great time.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!


> Dave,
> Congratulation on a beautiful, beautiful engine!
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> Dave Rotigel wrote:
>
>> 



From BillMil357 at aol.com  Fri Sep 29 05:58:56 2006
From: BillMil357 at aol.com (BillMil357 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:58:56 EDT
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <bdf.4d8f141.324e7290@aol.com>

Hi Dave,
 
That is a sweet looking engine and I know you will enjoy showing it, be  sure 
and bring it to the SIAM show next year so I can see it, show us a picture  
of it on your new trailer, glad you had a safe trip.
 
Bill Miller.



From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Sep 29 06:43:45 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:43:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <20060929.094650.612.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Congrats !!!  Dave.

Very nice engine.
 
Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/     
(_o_)


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Sep 29 07:55:03 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:55:03 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>

On 29/09/06, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>         Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order to
> pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See:
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got
> home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It
> was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob!
> Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like
> a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday!
> Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting
> the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie
> will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be
> home and to have the Austral in my drive.
>         Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
>

That is a very nice piece of kit, Dave, and we are very pleased that
you had a safe trip there and back.

It is interesting to see the gradually increasing ownership of oil
engines and diesels in the US hobby, perhaps when you get a minute you
could run through your thoughts behind the purchase of this engine for
us, please?

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Sep 29 09:00:11 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:00:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <200609291600.k8TG0X4k050634@mail-gw.fsr.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:17 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!

Hi All,
	Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in
order to 
pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like 
a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday! 
Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting 
the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie 
will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be 
home and to have the Austral in my drive.
	Dave
PS, Pictures soon
PPS, Life is GOOD!

~~~~~~~~

Color me green... with jealousy.  ;-)  

That's a mighty fine looking piece of iron, Dave.  Good for you! 

You've got it right:  Life is good.

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   






From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Sep 29 16:14:51 2006
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:14:51 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
Message-ID: <000801c6e41d$1334f4e0$4a68e150@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

    Hi Dave ,
                Well done on your trip. Hope to see you and the Austral at either Baraboo or Portland next year.

        Best regards Craig in sunny Scotland

PS; hope you've got plenty of beer if Arnie is going to be playing engine with you


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Sep 29 19:08:50 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:08:50 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>

Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:

Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..

 History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I understood..... 
All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back as I found another 
foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check was in the mail"....to 
this date,Nothing,

  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again

  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!

  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.

  RickinMt.



 



From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Fri Sep 29 19:54:39 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:54:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006801c6e43b$c6013890$05e14044@pengy>

You haven't recieved it yet?  Its en route to you via Priority Mail.  Should 
be there soon.   I've been shipping some patterns back to my customers since 
I won't be doing any more castings for a while.  We had a drunk driver crash 
into the foundry building ( no lie, see 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2116191560033749120bmpnNQ ) and 
the building is unsafe until the wall is repaired.

After losing money for 6 months I had to step back and rethink the foundry 
as well as take a job working in the machine shop next door to try to pay 
off some debts.  Being there from 8 am to 8 pm almost every day doesn't give 
me any time to run to the post office to mail your package out.

I should have shipped it out a bit sooner to you and for the delay I have no 
excuse.  Rest assured it will be in your hands by the beginning of the week.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: <stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org>; "sel" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "stationary-engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


> Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
>
> Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
>
> History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
> attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
> pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
> fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
> Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I 
> understood..... All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back 
> as I found another foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check 
> was in the mail"....to this date,Nothing,
>
>  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
>
>  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
>
>  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
>
>  RickinMt.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From page at velocitynet.com.au  Fri Sep 29 20:05:39 2006
From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:05:39 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
	<006801c6e43b$c6013890$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <00c701c6e43d$4f8daa20$fd2ffea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq>

Whoa.  Nasty.

Ron
Canberra

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


> You haven't recieved it yet?  Its en route to you via Priority Mail.
Should
> be there soon.   I've been shipping some patterns back to my customers
since
> I won't be doing any more castings for a while.  We had a drunk driver
crash
> into the foundry building ( no lie, see
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2116191560033749120bmpnNQ ) and
> the building is unsafe until the wall is repaired.
>
> After losing money for 6 months I had to step back and rethink the foundry
> as well as take a job working in the machine shop next door to try to pay
> off some debts.  Being there from 8 am to 8 pm almost every day doesn't
give
> me any time to run to the post office to mail your package out.
>
> I should have shipped it out a bit sooner to you and for the delay I have
no
> excuse.  Rest assured it will be in your hands by the beginning of the
week.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> To: <stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org>; "sel"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "stationary-engine"
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:08 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
>
>
> > Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
> >
> > Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
> >
> > History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man
> > attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a
> > pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be
> > fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship
with
> > Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I
> > understood..... All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer
back
> > as I found another foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check
> > was in the mail"....to this date,Nothing,
> >
> >  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
> >
> >  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
> >
> >  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
> >
> >  RickinMt.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Fri Sep 29 20:45:53 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:45:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
Message-ID: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>

I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly what 
kind of material it is and where to buy it?

Feel free to reply off list

John Hall
jthall at worldnet.att.net




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 29 21:06:20 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:06:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
In-Reply-To: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <451DED3C.9090702@scrtc.com>

John,
    Do you know the thickness?  There is a company near me that has a 
tremendous assortment of rubber materials, fuel resistant, high temp 
material, etc.  They are great about simply giving me a piece of their 
scrap material for jobs such as you describe.  If you could give me some 
dimensions (thickness primarily and number of square inches you need), I 
could check with them.  Here is a website.  The office I use is the one 
in Elizabethtown (the area code they have listed is incorrect as its now 
270 instead of 502):

http://www.grplou.com/

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



> I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly 
> what kind of material it is and where to buy it?
>
> Feel free to reply off list
>
> John Hall
> jthall at worldnet.att.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Sep 30 00:04:12 2006
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:04:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
	<006801c6e43b$c6013890$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <000a01c6e45e$a3bc1930$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

I am glad the list has been a medium for sorting out a problem.
Thats one of the good things about it.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


> You haven't recieved it yet?  Its en route to you via Priority Mail. 
> Should be there soon.   I've been shipping some patterns back to my 
> customers since I won't be doing any more castings for a while.  We had a 
> drunk driver crash into the foundry building ( no lie, see 
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2116191560033749120bmpnNQ ) and 
> the building is unsafe until the wall is repaired.
>
> After losing money for 6 months I had to step back and rethink the foundry 
> as well as take a job working in the machine shop next door to try to pay 
> off some debts.  Being there from 8 am to 8 pm almost every day doesn't 
> give me any time to run to the post office to mail your package out.
>
> I should have shipped it out a bit sooner to you and for the delay I have 
> no excuse.  Rest assured it will be in your hands by the beginning of the 
> week.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> To: <stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org>; "sel" 
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "stationary-engine" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:08 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
>
>
>> Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
>>
>> Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
>>
>> History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
>> attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
>> pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
>> fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
>> Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I 
>> understood..... All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back 
>> as I found another foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check 
>> was in the mail"....to this date,Nothing,
>>
>>  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
>>
>>  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
>>
>>  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
>>
>>  RickinMt.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Sep 30 00:15:38 2006
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:15:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
References: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <001801c6e460$3f89b2e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Any female contraception facility will be able to supply you with what you 
need !! VBG
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material


>I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly what 
>kind of material it is and where to buy it?
>
> Feel free to reply off list
>
> John Hall
> jthall at worldnet.att.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Sep 29 10:57:39 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:57:39 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Re: The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <200609291600.k8TG052A031764@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060929195349.00ab9e28@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 29/09/2006, you wrote:
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:17:03 -0400
>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
>Hi All,
>         Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in 
> order to
>pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See:
>http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got
>home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It
>was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob!
>Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like
>a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday!
>Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting
>the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie
>will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be
>home and to have the Austral in my drive.
>         Dave
>PS, Pictures soon
>PPS, Life is GOOD!


Congrats Dave,
         Great looking engine - my little Ronnie N would fit quite nicely 
inside the water tank :-)

         I wish you much pleasure from it.

         Good that you got back safely - now Arnie does not need to hold 
that auction !!


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Sep 30 04:20:08 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:20:08 EDT
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <c6b.135bf2d.324face8@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/29/2006 2:56:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rotigel at alltel.net writes:

<<  It's good to be 
 home and to have the Austral in my drive. >>

Dave,

Glad you had a safe trip and got the new play toy home.  How did the new 
trailer pull?

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri Sep 29 18:31:15 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:31:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <000801c6e41d$1334f4e0$4a68e150@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
References: <000801c6e41d$1334f4e0$4a68e150@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060929212523.03924178@mail.alltel.net>

At 07:14 PM 9/29/2006, you wrote:
>     Hi Dave ,
>                 Well done on your trip. Hope to see you and the Austral 
> at either Baraboo or Portland next year.
>         Best regards Craig in sunny Scotland
>PS; hope you've got plenty of beer if Arnie is going to be playing engine 
>with you

Hi Craig,
         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any other 
engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off the side 
shaft!
         Dave
PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!



From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri Sep 29 18:24:16 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:24:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
	<6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060929211941.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>


>It is interesting to see the gradually increasing ownership of oil
>engines and diesels in the US hobby, perhaps when you get a minute you
>could run through your thoughts behind the purchase of this engine for
>us, please?
>
>Peter

It was an interesting and laborious thought process that led me to buy this 
particular engine Peter. First, it was for sale. Second, I wanted it. And 
third, I bought it! In all the process took about 6.69 seconds!
         Dave
PS, I love it when a plan comes together!  



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 04:45:20 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:45:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <c6b.135bf2d.324face8@aol.com>
References: <c6b.135bf2d.324face8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930073909.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>


>Dave,
>Glad you had a safe trip and got the new play toy home.  How did the new
>trailer pull?
>Tom Schmutz

Hi Tom,
         The new 10,000 GVW trailer pulled just fine. Most of the time I 
had to try hard to remember that it was "back there!" Additionally I found 
that Steve (the dealer) was real easy to deal with. All in all I'm real 
pleased!
         Dave



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep 30 05:31:45 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:31:45 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net><6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060929211941.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001401c6e48c$6491a9e0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>

6.69 SECONDS!!!! WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!


>
>>It is interesting to see the gradually increasing ownership of oil
>>engines and diesels in the US hobby, perhaps when you get a minute you
>>could run through your thoughts behind the purchase of this engine for
>>us, please?
>>
>>Peter
>
> It was an interesting and laborious thought process that led me to buy 
> this particular engine Peter. First, it was for sale. Second, I wanted it. 
> And third, I bought it! In all the process took about 6.69 seconds!
>         Dave
> PS, I love it when a plan comes together!
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Sep 30 05:34:47 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:34:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060929212523.03924178@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Congratulations on getting your new toy home safely Dave.
Now you understand why we all love our Australs down here in Oz. Just to
make your eyes pop check out my pictures from the R-T Centenary rally a
couple of years ago. There were close to 300 sideshaft Australs:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc041.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----


Hi Craig,
         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any other 
engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off the side 
shaft!
         Dave
PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!





From jlb94 at juno.com  Sat Sep 30 07:08:22 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:08:22 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
Message-ID: <20060930.102554.1456.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi John,

Neoprene Impregnated Nylon

Should be able to get it at any good awning, boat cover, custom tarp mfg.

You'd only need a scrap.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/     
 (_o_)


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep 30 11:46:48 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:46:48 +0200
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <200609301600.k8UG0423020333@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <200609302050218.SM01772@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 30/09/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:14:51 +0100
>From: "craig morrison" <benzengines at tiscali.co.uk>
>Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
>Hi Dave ,
>                 Well done on your trip. Hope to see you and the Austral 
> at either Baraboo or Portland next year.
>
>         Best regards Craig in sunny Scotland.


Scotland is SUNNY ???


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep 30 11:55:01 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:55:01 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
In-Reply-To: <200609301600.k8UG0423020333@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060930204936.00ab7a48@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 30/09/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:45:53 -0400
>From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
>
>I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly what
>kind of material it is and where to buy it?
>Feel free to reply off list
>John Hall
>jthall at worldnet.att.net


Hi John,
         I'm not trying to be argumentative but is this not what the list 
is all about. Learning stuff!

         Why "off list" for a question like this? I'm sure a lot of guys 
would rather read the replies to a post like this than some of the other 
stuff that gets on to the list - this is actually "engine related".
         I look forward to answers to your question "on list".


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep 30 11:58:35 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:58:35 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
In-Reply-To: <200609301600.k8UG0423020333@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060930205656.02855e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 30/09/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:15:38 +1000
>From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Diaphragm material
>
>Any female contraception facility will be able to supply you with what you
>need !! VBG
>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold


Hi Reg,
         Glad to see you are back again - and obviously on top form - the 
trip must have been good!


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Sep 30 12:14:10 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:14:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <451EC202.1000305@scrtc.com>

Great photos Patrick.  Thanks for posting them again as I remember you 
showing these to us after the R-T Rally.  You are peaking my interest in 
trying to get one of these.  I have a question for you, why do some of 
the trucks (steel wheeled carts they are on) have cast iron wheels and 
others have flat steel spokes?  Is there some significance for them to 
be one way or the other?  On the one that Dave got, it has the flat 
steel spokes.  On your engine it has the cast iron wheels.  From looking 
at the SN's, it looks like the difference doesn't correspond to the 
dates of manufacture.  Thanks!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


>Congratulations on getting your new toy home safely Dave.
>Now you understand why we all love our Australs down here in Oz. Just to
>make your eyes pop check out my pictures from the R-T Centenary rally a
>couple of years ago. There were close to 300 sideshaft Australs:
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc041.html
>
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>Hi Craig,
>         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
>Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any other 
>engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off the side 
>shaft!
>         Dave
>PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>  
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 14:25:47 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:25:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <001401c6e48c$6491a9e0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
	<6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060929211941.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>
	<001401c6e48c$6491a9e0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930172330.03a2a2e0@mail.alltel.net>

I had consumed the better part of two six packs that evening and my 
reaction time was much slower than normal!
         Dave

At 08:31 AM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
>6.69 SECONDS!!!! WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG.
>EDD PAYNE
>It was an interesting and laborious thought process that led me to buy 
>this particular engine Peter. First, it was for sale. Second, I wanted it. 
>And third, I bought it! In all the process took about 6.69 seconds!
>>         Dave
>>PS, I love it when a plan comes together!



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Sep 30 16:12:56 2006
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:12:56 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060930205656.02855e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00bb01c6e4e5$f7d39480$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Yup, slowly dragging myself back into things.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Diaphragm material


> Hi Reg,
>         Glad to see you are back again - and obviously on top form - the 
> trip must have been good!
> 
> 
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans




From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sat Sep 30 16:28:18 2006
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim and Diane)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:28:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Kohler question
Message-ID: <010f01c6e4e8$1cc69600$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>

I need some information on a Kohler 4 cylinder engine, model IM21A, 1500 
watts, 110 VAC.  In specific I need the details of how the hand crank fits 
into the engine, what are the fine details of the crank support.  I would 
like to email with anybody that has one of these engines and get some 
pictures of what I need.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
jd.kirkes at verizon.net 



From fuller_johnson at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 30 17:16:09 2006
From: fuller_johnson at yahoo.com (Fuller & Johnson)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20061001001609.76461.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>

I also would like the bits I sent in Jan back for which I have been trying to get Rick to send for over 60days with no response.  
   
  NICK

Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
  Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:

Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..

History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
Rowlands and he did us good. After Rick's problems, which I understood..... 
All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back as I found another 
foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check was in the mail"....to 
this date,Nothing,

Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again

Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!

Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.

RickinMt.





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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 17:27:08 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:27:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <451EC202.1000305@scrtc.com>
References: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<451EC202.1000305@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930202152.03b01e68@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Tommy,
         It appears to me that the cast/flat steel spokes difference seems 
to be a matter of engine size. Up to 8 HP have cast wheels. Eleven HP (10 
HP?) and above have flat steel spokes.
         Dave
PS, Clicking on the first picture on page 4 will help you know where I'm 
coming from!

At 03:14 PM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
>Great photos Patrick.  Thanks for posting them again as I remember you 
>showing these to us after the R-T Rally.  You are peaking my interest in 
>trying to get one of these.  I have a question for you, why do some of the 
>trucks (steel wheeled carts they are on) have cast iron wheels and others 
>have flat steel spokes?  Is there some significance for them to be one way 
>or the other?  On the one that Dave got, it has the flat steel spokes.  On 
>your engine it has the cast iron wheels.  From looking at the SN's, it 
>looks like the difference doesn't correspond to the dates of 
>manufacture.  Thanks!
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>>Congratulations on getting your new toy home safely Dave.
>>Now you understand why we all love our Australs down here in Oz. Just to
>>make your eyes pop check out my pictures from the R-T Centenary rally a
>>couple of years ago. There were close to 300 sideshaft Australs:
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc041.html
>>
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>Leichhardt NSW
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>Hi Craig,
>>         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
>> Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any 
>> other engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off 
>> the side shaft!
>>         Dave
>>PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>
>
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 30 17:49:00 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:49:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Kohler Governor Question
References: <010f01c6e4e8$1cc69600$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>
Message-ID: <009f01c6e4f3$62e5efe0$7ea4f504@Ed>


A buddy of mine has a Kohler CV12.5T , Spsec 1252, SN2111610134 and the 
governor does not seem to exert a force on the governor spring.  Thanks to 
this great club, I have TP2339.pdf and carefully followed the governor set 
up instructions, But when we advance the throttle control to take the slack 
out of the spring, the speed wants to run away. I wonder if this particular 
engine has a history of a agovernor failure inside the block. Anybody have 
any experience on this.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Sep 30 18:31:59 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:31:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930202152.03b01e68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20061001013146.QNTD11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Dave is mostly right on the flat steel vs cast wheels on Australs. The cast
wheels were only seen on engines up to 8hp but the flat steel wheels were
available as an option on the smaller engines (just to confuse matters). I
would hate to think how much heavier the engines would be if the bigger
engines had the cast wheels.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----


Hi Tommy,
         It appears to me that the cast/flat steel spokes difference seems 
to be a matter of engine size. Up to 8 HP have cast wheels. Eleven HP (10 
HP?) and above have flat steel spokes.
         Dave
PS, Clicking on the first picture on page 4 will help you know where I'm 
coming from!





From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Sat Sep 30 18:43:30 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:43:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <20061001001609.76461.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <016301c6e4fa$ff7eba10$05e14044@pengy>

I'm now gathering up your parts to be returned. Your package will be shipped 
off once I am sure that I have everything that you sent.

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fuller & Johnson" <fuller_johnson at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


>I also would like the bits I sent in Jan back for which I have been trying 
>to get Rick to send for over 60days with no response.
>
>  NICK
>
> Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
>  Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
>
> Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
>
> History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man
> attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a
> pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be
> fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with
> Rowlands and he did us good. After Rick's problems, which I 
> understood.....
> All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back as I found 
> another
> foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check was in the 
> mail"....to
> this date,Nothing,
>
> Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
>
> Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
>
> Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
>
> RickinMt.
>
>
>
>
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 22:19:06 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:19:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Question
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20061001011301.03b49df0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Several engines that I own have more than one place that the water must be 
drained in getting the engine ready for winter. I see only one place on my 
11 HP Austral--the pipe at the bottom coming out of the water tank. 
(Granted, I have not looked that hard!) Is this the only water drain, or am 
I missing another plug (or plugs) that must be opened in order to get ALL 
the water out?
	Dave



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 22:47:23 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:47:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Re: The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060929195349.00ab9e28@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <200609291600.k8TG052A031764@heavyiron.atis.net>
	<5.2.1.1.0.20060929195349.00ab9e28@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20061001013419.03b3bd50@mail.alltel.net>


>Congrats Dave,
>         Great looking engine - my little Ronnie N would fit quite nicely 
> inside the water tank :-)
>         I wish you much pleasure from it.
>         Good that you got back safely - now Arnie does not need to hold 
> that auction !!
>Keep the revs up (or down)
>Jerry Evans

Hi Jerry,
         A question for you (and others who may be familiar with the revs 
on an 11 HP Austral.) My son (Todd) and I ran the engine for about a half 
an hour today. We couldn't get the revs under 100. If we did for one or two 
hits the engine would then stop. When I picked the engine up in KA a week 
ago Rob and Kelley had it running about 70 RPM's. Granted it was 80 degrees 
and sunny in KA and 55 degrees and damp here. However, there was no water 
in the engine (or at least I think there was no water in it--none drained 
from the pipe at the bottom of the water tank) and I would have thought a 
half hours running would have warmed it up sufficiently to get the speed 
down under 100 revs. I had the burner I'm using in place of the lamp on 
both here and in KA the whole time while running the engine. Perhaps it was 
not on high enough here. I'll try more heat tomorrow when Arnie is here and 
see if that helps. I'd like to get it running at 69 revs so that I can 
really call it MY engine!
         Dave



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 22:08:16 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:08:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <20061001013146.QNTD11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930202152.03b01e68@mail.alltel.net>
	<20061001013146.QNTD11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20061001010516.03ab8b70@mail.alltel.net>

The first picture on p. 4 gave me the clue to all this and indicated 
exactly where I'm coming from on things lately. Click on it to see what I'm 
talking about. See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc044.html
         Dave
PS, The whole set of pictures is GREAT! Thanks for setting them up!


At 09:31 PM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
>Dave is mostly right on the flat steel vs cast wheels on Australs. The cast
>wheels were only seen on engines up to 8hp but the flat steel wheels were
>available as an option on the smaller engines (just to confuse matters). I
>would hate to think how much heavier the engines would be if the bigger
>engines had the cast wheels.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>Hi Tommy,
>          It appears to me that the cast/flat steel spokes difference seems
>to be a matter of engine size. Up to 8 HP have cast wheels. Eleven HP (10
>HP?) and above have flat steel spokes.
>          Dave
>PS, Clicking on the first picture on page 4 will help you know where I'm
>coming from!
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Fri Sep  1 03:56:12 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:56:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm Back!
Message-ID: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>

I had to unsubscribe for a few days while we moved from an apartment to a house.  Finally!!!  We bought my dad's place in Hubbard Township.  Its out in the country on an acre of land.  The property is covered with mature maple, pine and apple trees and has a large garage should I want to keep some old iron here. The area is actually known as Coalburg, and got its name from the mines that were in the area 120 years ago.  

Rick Rowlands



From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 04:36:11 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:36:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6cc42$7feec4a0$424e693a@domain.invalid>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<000f01c6cc42$7feec4a0$424e693a@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <44F81B2B.5030004@imc-group.com>

Edd,
I've been through all my photos now and unfortunately am not finding 
this this one. It this the side shaft engine that was all slicked out? 
Can't believe I didn't take a picture of it!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

edd payne wrote:

>Great pics Curt.Did you get a pic of the Thompson Tiger that was there.Al
>Hann told me there was one there that got sold .
>EDD PAYNE
>PO BOX 364 GULGONG
>New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
>0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
>To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL (Oldengine.org)"
><stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "OFES" <ofes at lists.stationary-engine.com>
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From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 04:43:36 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:43:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Quik Poly or XP 2000
In-Reply-To: <000601c6cd4c$f53493b0$09b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>
References: <000601c6cd4c$f53493b0$09b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>
Message-ID: <44F81CE8.1090203@imc-group.com>

Rob, Lyle, Dave, Damian,
Thank you for the update on KwikPoly. Seems they added the llc to the 
end of the old URL.
I'll give 'em a call today.
Curt

Lyle Myles wrote:

>Do you have any thing lying around like a can or box this came in? if you do
>maybe there is an address on this for the company and if so you could call
>information and see if the business is still in operation and then if they
>are you can give them a call and see if they still sell this or if they have
>replaced it with something else. Also folks sometimes forget the Better
>Business Bureau can also give you information on companies if they are still
>in business or not. Hope this might help some.
>
>Lyle Myles
>
>May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
>given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!
>
> 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Curt
>Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:55 PM
>To: SEL; SEL (Oldengine.org)
>Subject: [SEL] Quik Poly or XP 2000
>
>Whatever became of the Kwik Poly, 2 part, water thin epoxy used to seal 
>fuel tanks? For a while it was sold under the XP 2000 name, but I can't 
>find either name on the 'net anymore. Mine finally set up after sitting 
>around a few years. I had used about 2/3 of the quart kit. It's good 
>stuff and I'd like to replace it.
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
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From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 04:50:36 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:50:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm Back!
In-Reply-To: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>
References: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <44F81E8C.4090507@imc-group.com>

Rick,
Congratulations on home ownership!
As a trivia note, the Coalburg name refers to a prominent seam of coal 
that's found in Ky, Pa, Wv. Sounds like it ran up into Oh too.
Curt

Rick Rowlands wrote:

>I had to unsubscribe for a few days while we moved from an apartment to a house.  Finally!!!  We bought my dad's place in Hubbard Township.  Its out in the country on an acre of land.  The property is covered with mature maple, pine and apple trees and has a large garage should I want to keep some old iron here. The area is actually known as Coalburg, and got its name from the mines that were in the area 120 years ago.  
>
>Rick Rowlands
>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Sep  1 05:10:28 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:10:28 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Quik Poly or XP 2000
References: <000601c6cd4c$f53493b0$09b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>
	<44F81CE8.1090203@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV907EF46A4553188D89477BB3C0@phx.gbl>

If all else fails Curt, going on three years with this Red Kote on the 
Galloway..had some pretty good seeps too.

It's a single pak and excess can be drained and reused.  Recomended to be by 
an ole farm wrench.

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/60686285/1201050969039077051uKwoCf

Good Luck
RickinMt. 



From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Fri Sep  1 05:27:12 2006
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 05:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Thompson
In-Reply-To: <000a01c6cd74$0091bf90$930cecdc@morris>
Message-ID: <20060901122712.99922.qmail@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed

Here are 2 photos that I took of one at Baraboo.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/56.jpg

http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/57.jpg

There might have been another one there, but I am not sure.

Steve

--- Kerry <ozengine at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

G'Day Edd

Sorry never met All and did not know about a TT but if I remember correct
Reg said he took photos for someone, only hope
 
Kerry
PS. Reg is back end of this month

This is for Kerry.Did you meet All Hann at Baraboo.If you did you must be
the Ozy who took the pics of the Thompson Tiger for me.If it wasn't you.
WHO WAS IT.
EDD PAYNE
PO BOX 364 GULGONG
New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep  1 05:37:58 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:37:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Russell,

Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
just ignored 'em.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:

> Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
>   and what it didn't go!
>
> At 10:11 PM 30/08/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >The picture series on the SEL Bessemer "get fit" program was GREAT!!  8-))
> >
> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> >
> > <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>



From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 06:39:19 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:39:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <44F83807.5050209@imc-group.com>

Hey Russell, I seem to recall the same bit of trouble in your shed while 
Kerry was on a flywheel ;-)
Curt

Russell Gilbert wrote:

> Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
>  and what it didn't go!
>



From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Fri Sep  1 08:34:32 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:34:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] I'm Back!
References: <007201c6cdb5$3d107060$05e14044@pengy>
	<44F81E8C.4090507@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <003301c6cddc$1f161d40$05e14044@pengy>

Up here the seam was called Brier Hill block coal.  I think the two names 
have seperate origins.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm Back!


> Rick,
> Congratulations on home ownership!
> As a trivia note, the Coalburg name refers to a prominent seam of coal 
> that's found in Ky, Pa, Wv. Sounds like it ran up into Oh too.
> Curt
>
> Rick Rowlands wrote:
>
>>I had to unsubscribe for a few days while we moved from an apartment to a 
>>house.  Finally!!!  We bought my dad's place in Hubbard Township.  Its out 
>>in the country on an acre of land.  The property is covered with mature 
>>maple, pine and apple trees and has a large garage should I want to keep 
>>some old iron here. The area is actually known as Coalburg, and got its 
>>name from the mines that were in the area 120 years ago.
>>Rick Rowlands
>>
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From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Sep  1 08:45:43 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:45:43 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
many times with no success.

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> >
> >
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>






From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep  1 09:10:10 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:10:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <44F85B62.7030306@imc-group.com>

Orrin,
I can't explain it but when I click on the link you included in your 
reply it won't open. However, when I type it in it works fine!

The only thing I see missing in the link provided is the missing ">" at 
the end of the URL.

Try this:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>

or even
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html

Curt

Orrin Iseminger wrote:

>Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
>many times with no success.
>
>Regards, 
>
>Orrin
>
>Orrin Iseminger
>Colton, Washington, USA
>http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
>So many projects.  So little time.   
>
>  
>
>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>  
>
>
>
>
>
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>  
>



From lyle45859 at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep  1 09:24:12 2006
From: lyle45859 at peoplepc.com (Lyle Myles)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:24:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <000001c6cde3$108d8c20$10b85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>

I had no problems logging on to both sites that were listed.  
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm &
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html 
Lyle Myles

May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!

 


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin
Iseminger
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.

Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
many times with no success.

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> >
> >
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>




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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep  1 08:57:22 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:57:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <200609011546.k81FjuP3040358@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609011156400.51180@vegeta.city-net.com>

Yes.  Sucks to be you.  8-))

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote:

> Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've tried
> many times with no success.

> http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html



From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Sep  1 10:32:40 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:32:40 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <44F85B62.7030306@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <200609011733.k81HWo4H008805@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Curt, I see the problem.  The .html was truncated.  The page comes up just
fine, now. 

Thank you for the assistance. 

Regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:10 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.

Orrin,
I can't explain it but when I click on the link you included in your 
reply it won't open. However, when I type it in it works fine!

The only thing I see missing in the link provided is the missing ">" at 
the end of the URL.

Try this:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html
>

or even
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html

Curt

Orrin Iseminger wrote:

>Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  I've
tried
>many times with no success.
>
>Regards, 
>
>Orrin
>
>Orrin Iseminger
>Colton, Washington, USA
>http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
>So many projects.  So little time.   
>
>  
>
>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
>>>
><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.htm
l
>  




From Germoamer at aol.com  Fri Sep  1 10:49:06 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:49:06 EDT
Subject: [SEL] RE: Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
Message-ID: <c37.154793d.3229cc92@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/1/2006 11:50:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
oiseming at moscow.com writes:

<< Am I the only one who has not been able to access this Web page?  >>

Orrin,

I just tried it copying from your note and it  worked just fine.

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From rex002 at centurytel.net  Fri Sep  1 16:55:11 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:55:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
Message-ID: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>

Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it may be
? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout the
pictures on this webshots link ,
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo

Thanks
Rex Hinz



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Fri Sep  1 17:21:16 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 20:21:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
References: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <866ba801856274cc2c9844e4fd7d93c5@chartertn.net>

Dunno, but it's cool!

John

On Sep 1, 2006, at 7:55 PM, rex002 wrote:

> Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
> tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it 
> may be
> ? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout 
> the
> pictures on this webshots link ,
> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  1 20:23:00 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 20:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6ce22$0ff06320$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <20060902032300.72903.qmail@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Such a machine can be found in old catalogs referred to as an "Irish
Mail". A quick google search turned up several machines like it. How it
came to be called such, I do not know.
Joe

--- rex002 <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:

> Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
> tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it may
> be
> ? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout the
> pictures on this webshots link ,
> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo
> 
> Thanks
> Rex Hinz
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 


Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI USA

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 


From rex002 at centurytel.net  Sat Sep  2 07:47:26 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 09:47:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?
References: <20060902032300.72903.qmail@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003301c6ce9e$b5864cb0$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>

Thanks Joe

   An Irish Mailer it is , Now to restore it and put it on display  


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" <joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. What is it, anyone seen or have one ?


> Such a machine can be found in old catalogs referred to as an "Irish
> Mail". A quick google search turned up several machines like it. How it
> came to be called such, I do not know.
> Joe
> 
> --- rex002 <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
>> Ok list this is off topic but I need some help , This is a hand pumped
>> tricycle ,  anyone have any idea where this was made ? or how old it may
>> be
>> ? I want to restore it but can't find any info anywhere , check mout the
>> pictures on this webshots link ,
>> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553701560CBjtfo
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rex Hinz
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
> 
> 
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com 
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From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  2 09:45:30 2006
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:45:30 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> OT Irish Mail
In-Reply-To: <200609021600.k82G04nm026636@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F31DFA16C6FF726311095B0CB3D0@phx.gbl>

Joe, you beat me to it.  I had one as a kid; it had a wooden platform body.  
Not sure about
age or manufacturer, as it was aged when I got it.  It was very cool, 
though, and I remember
the body being trimmed suspiciously similar to my Flexible Flyer sled.

Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway




From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep  2 16:43:49 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:43:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Steam Cable plows, was nice wheels
References: <7.0.1.0.0.20060801091533.028db278@lbpinc.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01c6cee9$a548a0a0$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank DeWitt" <Frank at lbpinc.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: [SEL] Steam Cable plows, was nice wheels


>I ran across this article on cable plows
> 
> Steam-operated cable plowing developed successfully in England, using 
> a system of two steam engines pulling a cable-drawn plow. The English 
> cable plows were capable of traveling safely at up to 4 mph when 
> plowing through good soil. The length of the furrow was usually 
> measured in 1/2 miles rather than in rods, and the early English 
> cable plows, with their short strings of cable, were grossly 
> inadequate. By 1870, there were 3,000 steam cable-plowing outfits in 
> operation in England and only four outfits operating in the U.S. 
> Henry E. Lawrence, a southern planter, used one of these plowing 
> outfits on his 1,000-acre sugar estate near New Orleans.
> Cable plowing never really took root in North America, owing mostly 
> to issues of topography and the large size of our fields, 
> particularly in the West. The general use of cable-type steam plows 
> was widespread in Germany around the 1890s, and they were still being 
> used for reclaiming peat land as late as the 1970s.
> http://www.steamtraction.com/article/2003-03-01
> Interesting
> Frank

Hi Frank, at my last engine show a model maker had made a very good model of the Steam ploughing field.
Unfortunately I had forgotten to pack my camera. (Slaps wrist very hard!!)
He promised to send me pictures
Tonight I received the pictures which are at,
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/553736245OQRhRQ
I will try to find some more pictures for this album.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep  3 17:47:52 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:47:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <006501c6cfbb$c1608500$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

I was wondering if there is a server problem.I am not getting any list
mail.or I am getting returned undeliverable .
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns



From Vivas1993 at aol.com  Sun Sep  3 17:49:59 2006
From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:49:59 EDT
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <bf2.348e7ac.322cd237@aol.com>

Hi Edd,
Yours is the first SEL message that I've had since yesterday morning, glad  
to know someone is still around :-)
 
 Dwight,
Matoaca, VA.

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Sun Sep  3 17:56:45 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:56:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <20060903.205645.760.1.jlb94@juno.com>

Coming through here Edd.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/        " A diplomat is someone who can disagree
(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  2 04:54:35 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:54:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Thompson
References: <20060901122712.99922.qmail@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000501c6ce86$a1385180$1482683a@domain.invalid>

Thank you Steve.Great pics.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Barr" <stevebarr at ameritech.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Thompson


> Ed
>
> Here are 2 photos that I took of one at Baraboo.
>
>
http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/56.j
pg
>
>
http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/images/Shows/2006Baraboo/engine1/57.j
pg
>
> There might have been another one there, but I am not sure.
>
> Steve
>
> --- Kerry <ozengine at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> G'Day Edd
>
> Sorry never met All and did not know about a TT but if I remember correct
> Reg said he took photos for someone, only hope
>
> Kerry
> PS. Reg is back end of this month
>
> This is for Kerry.Did you meet All Hann at Baraboo.If you did you must be
> the Ozy who took the pics of the Thompson Tiger for me.If it wasn't you.
> WHO WAS IT.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO BOX 364 GULGONG
> New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
> 0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Sep  3 20:17:11 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:17:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] trouble.
Message-ID: <20060903.201712.480.0.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Edd.
I am replying through the list and to you directly.  See which one gets
to you first.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:47:52 +1000 "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
writes:
> I was wondering if there is a server problem.I am not getting any 
> list
> mail.or I am getting returned undeliverable .
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns


From brianne at ultratune.com.au  Mon Sep  4 01:13:57 2006
From: brianne at ultratune.com.au (Brian Taylor)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:13:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Power Hacksaw
Message-ID: <001a01c6cffa$136e30c0$44c4dccb@brian>

Hi Guys
We have acquired a power hacksaw of unknown origin.
If you can identify it that would be great. If you could give us an idea of what size engine would normally have been used to power it, even greater. If you have an idea of the drive pulley size to power it at correct speed, greater still.
Check out pics at http://herveybaymuseum.museum.com/welcome.html
Click on Engines, then Power Hacksaw.
Many Thanks
Brian Taylor
Publicity Officer
Hervey Bay Historical Village & Museum
QLD Australia

From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Sep  4 03:38:32 2006
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:38:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060904203659.01976668@ncable.com.au>

I have to admit Arnie that Kerry is alright swinging the flywheels 
over, gee who was the wise arse from the crowed?? Someone we know? A 
skinny balding chap perhaps?
Russell

At 10:37 PM 1/09/2006, you wrote:
>G'day Russell,
>
>Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
>Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
>spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
>just ignored 'em.  8-))
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:
>
> > Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
> >   and what it didn't go!
> >
> > At 10:11 PM 30/08/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >The picture series on the SEL Bessemer "get fit" program was GREAT!!  8-))
> > >
> > >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics 




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Mon Sep  4 06:40:57 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:40:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>

I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin , 
may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will 
miss him

Rex Hinz 



From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon Sep  4 07:09:46 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:09:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power Hacksaw
In-Reply-To: <001a01c6cffa$136e30c0$44c4dccb@brian>
Message-ID: <20060904140949.279CC627836@mx-in01.mail-abuse.org>

I was using mine to cut "rebar" at the Waukee show. Powered by a 2hp Alamo
"idling" along at a pretty slow speed.
I could measure my pulleys in a bit - I certainly would not run it faster
than I was doing.
Toughest part was keeping the belt from slipping on the uneven ground there
alignment wasn't easy but once going, it worked quite well and got a number
of remarks.

Yours looks like it's a step up in size from the one I powered with the
engine - looks closer in size to my 14" saw which is the same make/brand and
all, just the next model up.
It's powered with an electric motor about the size of a washing machine
motor.

Bill
Runnells, IA  USA
Our thoughts with all of Australia as I read of the news of Steve Irwin.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Taylor
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:14 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Power Hacksaw

Hi Guys
We have acquired a power hacksaw of unknown origin.
If you can identify it that would be great. If you could give us an idea of
what size engine would normally have been used to power it, even greater. If
you have an idea of the drive pulley size to power it at correct speed,
greater still.
Check out pics at http://herveybaymuseum.museum.com/welcome.html
Click on Engines, then Power Hacksaw.
Many Thanks
Brian Taylor
Publicity Officer
Hervey Bay Historical Village & Museum
QLD Australia
_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From bill at antique-engines.com  Mon Sep  4 07:10:15 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:10:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>

Agreed - and for those wondering:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html


Bill 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies

I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin ,
may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
miss him

Rex Hinz 

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon Sep  4 07:27:12 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:27:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
References: <000401c6d027$c0b97780$6500a8c0@ibmhlcs6ptj6iw>
Message-ID: <d1f684c08b87f2c5c9527a43db5dcc4b@chartertn.net>

I sure am sorry to hear about it, too.

John

On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:40 AM, rex002 wrote:

> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve 
> Irwin , may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the 
> world will miss him
>
> Rex Hinz


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep  4 08:52:55 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:52:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060904203659.01976668@ncable.com.au>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060904203659.01976668@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609041152130.1029@vegeta.city-net.com>

heh-heh-heh.  I'd never say...

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:

> I have to admit Arnie that Kerry is alright swinging the flywheels
> over, gee who was the wise arse from the crowed?? Someone we know? A
> skinny balding chap perhaps?
>
> At 10:37 PM 1/09/2006, you wrote:
> >Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
> >Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
> >spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
> >just ignored 'em.  8-))



From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Sep  4 11:59:45 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:59:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <20060904.150721.1372.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Bill,

YES - I was wondering if it were the same Steve Irwin.

Thanks, for the link.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/        " A diplomat is someone who can disagree
(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Mon Sep  4 16:46:39 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:46:39 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
Message-ID: <002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>

He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White 
Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire men 
,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral is 
taking it a bit too far!
By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite the 
show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Agreed - and for those wondering:
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin 
> ,
> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
> miss him
>
> Rex Hinz
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> 




From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net  Mon Sep  4 17:47:17 2006
From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (George & Norma Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:47:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <004801c6d084$d8e53bc0$f5630b42@computer>

Peter-----
    You are wrong!!  Everbody is special whether they are doing something
dangerous or just living a so-called normal life.              George
-----Original Message-----
From: peter ogborne <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


>He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country
>that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
>Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire men
>,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
>TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
is
>taking it a bit too far!
>By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
the
>show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin
>> ,
>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>> miss him
>>
>> Rex Hinz
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Sep  4 18:27:41 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:27:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hi Peter
              I don't agree with you there, this man was a true 
conservationist and mixed a lot of humor with it to get it across. What a 
lot of people don't realize is that most of what he made went back into that 
cause, he also did a lot for Tourism here. It is sad to think that the rest 
of the world thought of him and his cause than some of our fellow countryman 
did.
Cheers Cam.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White 
> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire 
> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral 
> is taking it a bit too far!
> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite 
> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .

>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html





From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Mon Sep  4 18:45:33 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:45:33 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com><7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00af01c6d08c$fb354910$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hey Arnie, it's a good job you didn't give him a crank handle.
Cheers Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.


> G'day Russell,
>
> Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
> Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
> spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
> just ignored 'em.  8-))
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Russell Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Hi Arnie, mate I see you let Morris touch your engine!! ?????  mmmmmmmmm
>>   and what it didn't go!
>>
>> At 10:11 PM 30/08/2006, you wrote:
>> >
>> >The picture series on the SEL Bessemer "get fit" program was GREAT!! 
>> >8-))
>> >
>> >On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Curt wrote:
>> >
>> > <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Baraboo2006/Thumbnails.html>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Mon Sep  4 19:36:14 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:36:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
Message-ID: <000e01c6d094$0f11cd80$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

Well said Cam!
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cam grundy" <ponchie at ozemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Hi Peter
>               I don't agree with you there, this man was a true
> conservationist and mixed a lot of humor with it to get it across. What a
> lot of people don't realize is that most of what he made went back into
that
> cause, he also did a lot for Tourism here. It is sad to think that the
rest
> of the world thought of him and his cause than some of our fellow
countryman
> did.
> Cheers Cam.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
> > He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
country
> > that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> > Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
> > Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
> > men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> > TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state
funeral
> > is taking it a bit too far!
> > By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
> > the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>
> >
> >
> >> Agreed - and for those wondering:
> >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>
>
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep  4 18:34:41 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:34:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <004801c6d084$d8e53bc0$f5630b42@computer>
References: <004801c6d084$d8e53bc0$f5630b42@computer>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060904213030.03aaebc0@mail.alltel.net>

At 08:47 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
>Peter-----
>     You are wrong!!  Everbody is special              George

Hi George,
         If "Everybody is special" then the word "special" has no meaning. 
It's really too bad that logic is no longer taught in schools and 
understood by so few!
         Dave
PS, May you live a joyous life with the PC BS that is now so much part of 
our culture! 



From BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com  Mon Sep  4 21:53:28 2006
From: BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com (Barry  Gorman)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:53:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To and from the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <006301c6d0a7$3a9cfac0$0100000a@userd6162315ba>


            Barry Gorman
    Hunter Valley NSW  AUSTRALIA
  BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com

"Crickey" Peter , struth mate atsa a bloke that will leave a hole in the 
AUSSIE  persona forever <
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days



From lyle45859 at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  4 22:44:30 2006
From: lyle45859 at peoplepc.com (Lyle Myles)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:44:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To and from the aussies
In-Reply-To: <006301c6d0a7$3a9cfac0$0100000a@userd6162315ba>
Message-ID: <000001c6d0ae$5cf95990$6db85904@cats4d7ae9feb8>

Yes there are lots of people with higher risks jobs than he had. The
difference here is that he touched the lives of millions of viewers and he
stood up for the animal kingdom and tried to share that with his audience.
No matter what kind of man he was he was and still is very important to God
and I know today he is in a better place even though he will be truly missed
by his family, friends and fans. Yes a lot of people have lost the meaning
of something special but not me. I cared for my wife for years before her
death and there were times I just did not think I'd make it through another
day seeing her suffer as she did. But with all the pain and heartache, she
was and will always be special to me for what she taught me about strength
and caring for one another.

Lyle Myles

May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!

 


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Barry Gorman
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:53 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To and from the aussies


            Barry Gorman
    Hunter Valley NSW  AUSTRALIA
  BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com

"Crickey" Peter , struth mate atsa a bloke that will leave a hole in the 
AUSSIE  persona forever <
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country

> that risk their lives every day in their normal days

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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  4 20:05:38 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:05:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
	<000e01c6d094$0f11cd80$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <008d01c6d098$2abb9260$240110ac@FAMILY>

Ed what a terrible loss losing Steve Erwin, all of us in America loved Steve 
and he will be sorely missed. My condolences to you and all of your 
countrymen.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Well said Cam!
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> 



From russell at ncable.com.au  Tue Sep  5 01:56:48 2006
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:56:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>

Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree 
that the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make 
us Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way. 
If you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say 
"Well what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders 
for Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more 
aware of the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated 
east cost. He also employed 500 locals in his local community. He 
rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who 
he was and his cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But 
he was one of a kind and all done for the better good. Even if his 
ways were different to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be. 
His got my respect for what he has done for awareness to wildlife 
etc. Doesn't mean I would have had him around for dinner. Just paying 
credit where credit is due.
Russell

At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
>He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this 
>country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great 
>White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky 
>Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc 
>etc ............
>TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state 
>funeral is taking it a bit too far!
>By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not 
>quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>>Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin ,
>>may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>>miss him
>>
>>Rex Hinz
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
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Russell Gilbert
Sunny Sunraysia
russell at ncable.com.au
http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics 




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep  5 03:26:41 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:26:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
Message-ID: <20060905102634.VPSA6880.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I am still sorted out the 250 odd photos I took at Macksville on the weekend
but here is something to mull over. This nicely (possibly overly) restored
Aussie Chamberlain tractor. The paint finish was perfect and all the nuts
were chromed but the most amazing thing was that all the parts that would
normally be chromed were 9k gold plated!
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060268.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060269.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060270.JPG


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep  5 03:57:31 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 06:57:31 EDT
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
Message-ID: <526.7229af3.322eb21b@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/4/2006 11:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rotigel at alltel.net writes:

<< If "Everybody is special" then the word "special" has no meaning.  >>


Dave, even you are special in someone's eyes!

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 04:03:32 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:03:32 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Steve Irwin
Message-ID: <007101c6d0da$f08b5970$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>

I am suitably chastised.............
Peter Ogborne 
Little Grove ,Albany 
West Australia 
''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
jopeter at omninet.net.au



From oldengines at bigpond.com  Tue Sep  5 04:14:17 2006
From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:14:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <001101c6d0dc$6d6620f0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>

Hi All
I don't reply much to the list,but this quote sums it all up" but Sometimes 
it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're
an idiot rather than open it and confirm their suspicions."
Thanking you all
Ron

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
> is taking it a bit too far!
> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin
>> ,
>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>> miss him
>>
>> Rex Hinz
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
>
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From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Tue Sep  5 04:20:17 2006
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:20:17 +1000
Subject: [S] Re: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <001101c6d0dd$44baf210$77ad57ca@n>

Absolutly well said Russell, what he did for Australia and for wildlife 
conservation in Australia and around the world was an bloody fantastic! He 
touched the hearts of many and will live on as one of Australia's greatest 
wildlife conservationists.
   Cheers
        Mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: [S] Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree
> that the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make
> us Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way.
> If you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say
> "Well what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders
> for Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more
> aware of the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated
> east cost. He also employed 500 locals in his local community. He
> rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who
> he was and his cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But
> he was one of a kind and all done for the better good. Even if his
> ways were different to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be.
> His got my respect for what he has done for awareness to wildlife
> etc. Doesn't mean I would have had him around for dinner. Just paying
> credit where credit is due.
> Russell
>
> At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
>>He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
>>country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>>Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great
>>White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky
>>Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc
>>etc ............
>>TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state
>>funeral is taking it a bit too far!
>>By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not
>>quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" 
>><bill at antique-engines.com>
>>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>>Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>>Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>>To: The SEL email discussion list
>>>Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>>
>>>I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin 
>>>,
>>>may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>>>miss him
>>>
>>>Rex Hinz
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
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>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
>
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From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 04:42:26 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:42:26 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<001101c6d0dc$6d6620f0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
Message-ID: <000f01c6d0e0$5fa92490$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>

Obviously the reason why you don't reply much Ron.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Sullivan" <oldengines at bigpond.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Hi All
> I don't reply much to the list,but this quote sums it all up" but 
> Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're
> an idiot rather than open it and confirm their suspicions."
> Thanking you all
> Ron
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this 
>> country
>> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
>> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
>> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
>> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
>> is taking it a bit too far!
>> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
>> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>>
>>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve 
>>> Irwin
>>> ,
>>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world 
>>> will
>>> miss him
>>>
>>> Rex Hinz
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
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>>
>
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> 




From nancydick at pennswoods.net  Tue Sep  5 07:49:58 2006
From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:49:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <20060905102634.VPSA6880.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060905074540.01b1a860@mail.pennswoods.net>

That is a nice tractor in dress suit. I have a question do you have a photo 
of the exhaust side. I would like to see how they support that big muffler 
and pipe from breaking the manifold. See a lot with exhaust like that that 
have had the manifold repaired.
R Fink
USA
PA




At 08:26 PM 9/5/2006 +1000, you wrote:
>I am still sorted out the 250 odd photos I took at Macksville on the weekend
>but here is something to mull over. This nicely (possibly overly) restored
>Aussie Chamberlain tractor. The paint finish was perfect and all the nuts
>were chromed but the most amazing thing was that all the parts that would
>normally be chromed were 9k gold plated!
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060268.JPG
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060269.JPG
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060270.JPG
>
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel





From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep  5 05:33:40 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:33:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
Message-ID: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty throttle-governed
Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I suspect
was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
Some pics at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep  5 05:38:15 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:38:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20060905074540.01b1a860@mail.pennswoods.net>
Message-ID: <20060905123807.YTTZ18372.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Sorry, I don't have a picture of the other side. It is most unusual for me
to take any photos of the tractors. 

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

That is a nice tractor in dress suit. I have a question do you have a photo 
of the exhaust side. I would like to see how they support that big muffler 
and pipe from breaking the manifold. See a lot with exhaust like that that 
have had the manifold repaired.
R Fink
USA
PA





From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep  5 05:39:48 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:39:48 EDT
Subject: [SEL] unknown equipment
Message-ID: <58c.417c1fb.322eca14@aol.com>

Anybody have an idea what the photos of the old equipment are? Beam operated 
feed chopper with an elevator?  

http://cgi.ebay.com/WOOD-SHINGLE-SAW-MILL-OR-WHAT-IS-THIS_W0QQitemZ19002768255
7QQihZ009QQcategoryZ14279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Tue Sep  5 06:03:55 2006
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:03:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <009e01c6d0eb$c48b6700$77ad57ca@n>

Great rally Pics patrick, you have done well again. will like to attend that 
rally one day.
  Cheers
        Mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty 
> throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I 
> suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep  5 06:12:02 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:12:02 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
Message-ID: <001601c6d0ec$e1cee610$3ac10b52@no1>

What do you think about the new styling on the webshots pages?
My first impression is that it is worse than it was but perhaps I am missing
some new features.
Other peoples opinions will be appreciated.

Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  5 05:53:36 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:53:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Curt's Baraboo 2006 photos up.
In-Reply-To: <00af01c6d08c$fb354910$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
References: <44F4C6D6.6090904@imc-group.com><Pine.BSF.4.51.0608300806110.88005@vegeta.city-net.com><7.0.1.0.0.20060901092904.0197cec8@ncable.com.au>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609010834400.48473@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<00af01c6d08c$fb354910$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609050849570.38220@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Cam,

We DID talk about that but decided that neither of us could lift one sized
for the Bessemer.

We also decided that Kerry possesses bad Ju-Ju when it comes to crank
handles.  At Baraboo he was watching some bloke try and start an IHC LA
with a crank.  Yep, you guessed it, bloke smashed himself in the chops
with it.  Kerry quietly snuck away.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Cam grundy wrote:

> Hey Arnie, it's a good job you didn't give him a crank handle.
>
> Cheers Cam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> >
> > Hey mate, Kerry's Da Man!!  Every time he had a hand on the flywheels at
> > Portland, she started on the first turn.  Some wise asses in the crowd of
> > spectators were making comments about the weight on the flywheels but we
> > just ignored 'em.  8-))



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Tue Sep  5 06:22:54 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:22:54 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <019301c6d0ee$6692fa20$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hi Patrick
                Thanks a million for the Photo's Mate, a great job as usual. 
Cheers Cam.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty 
> throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I 
> suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep  5 06:25:49 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:25:49 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <20060905102634.VPSA6880.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <C122C8ED.2A84%rskinner@rustyiron.com>


On 9/5/06 3:26 AM, "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> The paint finish was perfect and all the nuts
> were chromed but the most amazing thing was that all the parts that would
> normally be chromed were 9k gold plated!

A Pimp Daddy tractor!

The only thing missing is low profile tires
and spinner wheels.





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  5 06:11:18 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:11:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6d0e0$5fa92490$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<001101c6d0dc$6d6620f0$1c02a8c0@ronliz>
	<000f01c6d0e0$5fa92490$f0b631cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609050910140.38220@vegeta.city-net.com>

"Jane, you ignorant slut..."  8-))

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, peter ogborne wrote:

> Obviously the reason why you don't reply much Ron.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Sullivan" <oldengines at bigpond.com>
>
> > I don't reply much to the list,but this quote sums it all up" but
> > Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you're
> > an idiot rather than open it and confirm their suspicions."
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> >
> >> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
> >> country
> >> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> >> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
> >> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire
> >> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> >> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral
> >> is taking it a bit too far!
> >> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite
> >> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .



From tdunlap at satx.rr.com  Tue Sep  5 07:05:21 2006
From: tdunlap at satx.rr.com (Tom Dunlap)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:05:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <000601c6d0f4$53da7060$1febb748@mycomputer>

No,  Irwin was one of a kind..not braver, just an unbelievably unique man. 
He was very special.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country 
> that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White 
> Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire 
> men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral 
> is taking it a bit too far!
> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite 
> the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve Irwin 
>> ,
>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world will
>> miss him
>>
>> Rex Hinz
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
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From driggars at earthlink.net  Tue Sep  5 07:37:08 2006
From: driggars at earthlink.net (Clint D)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:37:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>

Russell

well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
respect as what and who he was.

Clint


Russell Gilbert wrote:
> Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree that 
> the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make us 
> Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way. If 
> you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say "Well 
> what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders for 
> Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more aware of 
> the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated east cost. He 
> also employed 500 locals in his local community. He rubbed shoulders 
> with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who he was and his 
> cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But he was one of a 
> kind and all done for the better good. Even if his ways were different 
> to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be. His got my respect 
> for what he has done for awareness to wildlife etc. Doesn't mean I 
> would have had him around for dinner. Just paying credit where credit 
> is due.
> Russell
>
> At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
>> He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this 
>> country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
>> Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great 
>> White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky 
>> Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc 
>> etc ............
>> TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state 
>> funeral is taking it a bit too far!
>> By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not 
>> quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson" 
>> <bill at antique-engines.com>
>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>> Agreed - and for those wondering:
>>> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
>>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>>
>>> I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve 
>>> Irwin ,
>>> may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world 
>>> will
>>> miss him
>>>
>>> Rex Hinz
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Russell Gilbert
> Sunny Sunraysia
> russell at ncable.com.au
> http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep  5 08:30:36 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:30:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
In-Reply-To: <44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>
	<002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
	<44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Clint,
         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) 
I would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death was, 
indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
         Dave
PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!

At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>Russell
>
>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>respect as what and who he was.
>
>Clint



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 10:56:48 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:56:48 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <200609052048843.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>


>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,
>
>I am still sorted out the 250 odd photos
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW

Hi Patrick,
         You're slipping up - your pics are normally up on the Sunday night :-)

         Not to worry - we had our annual show this last weekend and I'm 
still sorting as well !!
         What I've looked at of yours so far seem to be up to your normal 
high standard - thanks and well done.

         Those gold plated bits would never last here - the indigenous 
population would think that they were brass and hammer them off to take to 
the local "scrappie".

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 10:45:38 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:45:38 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Steve Irwin
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905194254.03e0de40@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>
>From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
>Subject: [SEL] Steve Irwin
>To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>I am suitably chastised.............
>Peter Ogborne
>Little Grove ,Albany
>West Australia
>''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
>jopeter at omninet.net.au

Hi There Peter,
         Struth Mate - I thought you only specialized in getting the Yanks 
"riled up" - now you're doing it to the Aussies as well :-)


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 11:03:10 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:03:10 +0200
Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <200609052048718.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>


>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
>Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
>To: "atis" <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>
>What do you think about the new styling on the webshots pages?
>My first impression is that it is worse than it was but perhaps I am missing
>some new features.
>Other peoples opinions will be appreciated.
>Dave Croft
>Warrington

Hi Dave,
         I'm not crazy about "Webshots" because of the adverts that load 
first and take up our very slow bandwidth before you can even get to the 
pics you want to see.
         Having said that, I logged on to your page and it does seem to 
load quite a bit quicker than the old system so as far as I'm concerned it 
is an improvement.

P.S. 20 minutes after writing the above.
         Oops - Drastic change of mind - the thumbnails load quite quickly 
but I use "Firefox" and open the linked larger pics in "new tabs" - with a 
slow connection they all seem to "timeout" - the adverts load O.K. but the 
pics I want to see just "timeout" and I've got to click the reload button 
for each of them . I get a page showing a large blank "place holder' for 
the pic and a bunch of adverts "Cnet has launched in Britain" features very 
prominently. Obviously their coding forces the adverts to load first. I do 
not like pages like this.
         This is probably O.K. for all you guys with Broadband or fast 
connections but does not work for me!  I also realize that it is just my 
own problem that I live in a country that is going backwards fast and 
Internet connections are not up to par with the rest of the world - but you 
asked for opinions.
         How many of you guys out there on the SEL have the same problem as 
me - connection speeds not up to standard ??

         The above is the reason why I love "oldengine.org" - no top heavy 
scripting - no adverts - no bulldust - just engine stuff. Thanks very much 
Jim you are doing us all a service that we probably can never thank you 
enough for.

         Dave, thanks for your very interesting pages - I do look at them 
often because you have things up there that I want to see (and am prepared 
to wait) but I think that the "casual browser" may not be as patient.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  5 12:23:06 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:23:06 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
In-Reply-To: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905211242.03e37e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>


>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW

Hi Again Patrick,
         Just spent some more time looking at your pics. Great stuff.
         One question - the Petter at:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060183.JPG>

         I've never seen a Petter like that over here - can you tell me 
something more about it?
It bears a slight resemblance to a Ronnie N ?


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 13:10:24 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:10:24 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The new style webshots. What do you think about it?
In-Reply-To: <200609052048718.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>
References: <200609051600.k85G05ns032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
	<200609052048718.SM00324@new.databak.co.za>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609051310he1fcf27kcec11594f5e63820@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/09/06, Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:
>
>          The above is the reason why I love "oldengine.org" - no top heavy
> scripting - no adverts - no bulldust - just engine stuff. Thanks very much
> Jim you are doing us all a service that we probably can never thank you
> enough for.
> Jerry Evans

One of the 'benefits of Oldengine.org is that all the pictures are
shown within HTML coding, so that the browser can display just what
the site owner wants, and nothing else.

It is not for all though, and a lot of folk don't want the hassle of
learning HTML, which is why Webshots and others are so popular.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep  5 13:23:53 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:23:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905211242.03e37e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <000701c6d129$36088470$3ac10b52@no1>

Hi Jerry, I did think of Petter W1 the water cooled version of the A1
but the only picture I have of one has rounded corners on the cylinder top.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:23 PM
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain


> 
>>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>Leichhardt NSW
> 
> Hi Again Patrick,
>         Just spent some more time looking at your pics. Great stuff.
>         One question - the Petter at:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060183.JPG>
> 
>         I've never seen a Petter like that over here - can you tell me 
> something more about it?
> It bears a slight resemblance to a Ronnie N ?
> 
> 
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans  
> 
> 
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From pasquale.nj at verizon.net  Tue Sep  5 13:23:18 2006
From: pasquale.nj at verizon.net (Pasquale Lombardi)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:23:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ***   Wanted, A Carb for my SANDWICH    ***
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609051310he1fcf27kcec11594f5e63820@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008801c6d129$21a31cc0$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>

 Gentlemen, Can someone give me an idea where I might obtain a carburetor
for my Sandwich Hit & Miss engine?
Thank you,
Pat in NJ



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep  5 13:58:10 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:58:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060905211242.03e37e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<000701c6d129$36088470$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <001301c6d12e$002344d0$3ac10b52@no1>

Hi Jerry, see the pictures on this Ebay page.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stationary-engine-petter-w1_W0QQitemZ130020874986QQihZ003QQcategoryZ58177QQcmdZViewItem
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain


> Hi Jerry, I did think of Petter W1 the water cooled version of the A1
> but the only picture I have of one has rounded corners on the cylinder top.
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:23 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
> 
> 
>> 
>>>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
>>>Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>>>
>>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>>Leichhardt NSW
>> 
>> Hi Again Patrick,
>>         Just spent some more time looking at your pics. Great stuff.
>>         One question - the Petter at:
>> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri06/ri060183.JPG>
>> 
>>         I've never seen a Petter like that over here - can you tell me 
>> something more about it?
>> It bears a slight resemblance to a Ronnie N ?
>> 
>> 
>> Keep the revs up (or down)
>> Jerry Evans
>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>> Tel. (016) 365-5787
>> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
>> www.oldengine.org/members/evans  
>> 
>> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  5 13:37:06 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:37:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ***   Wanted, A Carb for my SANDWICH    ***
In-Reply-To: <008801c6d129$21a31cc0$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>
References: <008801c6d129$21a31cc0$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609051629370.44680@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Pat,

A couple of suggestions...

Put a "Parts Wanted" ad on Harry's.  http://www.enginads.com/bigengin.cgi

Give Hit & Miss a call.   http://www.hitnmiss.com/

Go to the Fall Swap Meet at Coolspring Oct. 19-21.
http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/

It would also help if you gave more info on your engine; HP, model, etc.
Photos are always helpful.

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Pasquale Lombardi wrote:

>  Gentlemen, Can someone give me an idea where I might obtain a carburetor
> for my Sandwich Hit & Miss engine?
> Thank you,
> Pat in NJ



From BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com  Tue Sep  5 14:15:13 2006
From: BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com (Barry  Gorman)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:15:13 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Emailing: Mamma_pictures
Message-ID: <000701c6d130$60aa0b70$0100000a@userd6162315ba>

Barry Gorman 
Hunter Valley NSW AUSTRALIA

Just Try This for More Than 4000 Pages ( Unknown Person )

 http://mamma51.mamma.com/Mamma_pictures?query=steve+irwin&start=1

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From pasquale.nj at verizon.net  Tue Sep  5 14:48:59 2006
From: pasquale.nj at verizon.net (Pasquale Lombardi)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:48:59 -0400
Subject: ***   Arnie   ***   RE: [SEL] ***   Wanted,
	A Carb for my SANDWICH    ***
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609051629370.44680@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00a501c6d135$1931e510$7a00a8c0@Pasquale>

 Hello Arnie,
Thank you so much for your help Arnie.
I shall post photos to the SEL list soon.
And I will try the link you provided.
Again, thank you Arnie,
Pat in NJ


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:37 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] *** Wanted, A Carb for my SANDWICH ***

Hi Pat,

A couple of suggestions...

Put a "Parts Wanted" ad on Harry's.  http://www.enginads.com/bigengin.cgi

Give Hit & Miss a call.   http://www.hitnmiss.com/

Go to the Fall Swap Meet at Coolspring Oct. 19-21.
http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/

It would also help if you gave more info on your engine; HP, model, etc.
Photos are always helpful.

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Pasquale Lombardi wrote:
p
>  Gentlemen, Can someone give me an idea where I might obtain a 
> carburetor for my Sandwich Hit & Miss engine?
> Thank you,
> Pat in NJ

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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Tue Sep  5 14:55:06 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:55:06 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <004b01c6d135$f31be000$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

Great stuff as usual mate.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>;
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty
throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I
suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 15:26:23 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:26:23 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au><44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <003101c6d13a$5522a500$a4fc8790@ogborneuah38i3>

Dave,I am gobsmacked!!! Do you and I see this the same way?This has to be a 
first.
Look all you other fans......he may have been a hit on US TV but what about 
Hogues you loved him,he even lives with you now. Irwin was a conservationist 
so they say but so was Harry Butler,Russel Coight,BobBrown .........
There is a word in the English language ........irony.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Hi Clint,
>         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
> 147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) I 
> would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
> was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death was, 
> indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
>         Dave
> PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!
>
> At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>Russell
>>
>>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>>respect as what and who he was.
>>
>>Clint
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> 




From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Sep  5 16:18:08 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:18:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au><44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net><6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net>
	<003101c6d13a$5522a500$a4fc8790@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <000801c6d141$8f293640$6400a8c0@home>

My goodness , I sure didn't mean to get this tug of war started , But I do 
say everybody's got their own opinion .and that's the way it should be. so 
it makes no difference , you liked him or you didn't , Lots of people  did 
and some didn't, I could get killed at my job any day but that put me in 
Steve's category .

Rex
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Dave,I am gobsmacked!!! Do you and I see this the same way?This has to be 
> a first.
> Look all you other fans......he may have been a hit on US TV but what 
> about Hogues you loved him,he even lives with you now. Irwin was a 
> conservationist so they say but so was Harry Butler,Russel Coight,BobBrown 
> .........
> There is a word in the English language ........irony.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Hi Clint,
>>         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
>> 147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
>> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) I 
>> would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
>> was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death was, 
>> indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
>>         Dave
>> PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!
>>
>> At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>>Russell
>>>
>>>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>>>respect as what and who he was.
>>>
>>>Clint
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Sep  5 16:35:25 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:35:25 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Large engines cheap
Message-ID: <20060905.163525.1816.1.rdhaskell@juno.com>

 I found this on Harry's page.

 Today, 03:23 PM 
Pacrat  
Registered Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Canyon, Texas USA
Posts: 25 

 Large Engines cheap 



I received a call today from a fellow who has been contracted to demolish
some old power generating plants in northern and west Texas. Some of the
old engines are probably collectable. His phone is 817-401-2354. He said
he would take a little more than scrap value, to make it worth his while
to save them.
Thanks
Robert


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

From rex002 at centurytel.net  Tue Sep  5 17:06:25 2006
From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:06:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies, 
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au><44FD8B94.3070308@earthlink.net><6.1.2.0.0.20060905112208.03ab6db0@mail.alltel.net><003101c6d13a$5522a500$a4fc8790@ogborneuah38i3>
	<000801c6d141$8f293640$6400a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <000601c6d148$4bcfd500$6400a8c0@home>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rex Hinz" <rex002 at centurytel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> My goodness , I sure didn't mean to get this tug of war started , But I do 
> say everybody's got their own opinion .and that's the way it should be. so 
> it makes no difference , you liked him or you didn't , Lots of people  did 
> and some didn't, I could get killed at my job any day but that does not 
> put me in Steve's category .
>
> Rex
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
>> Dave,I am gobsmacked!!! Do you and I see this the same way?This has to be 
>> a first.
>> Look all you other fans......he may have been a hit on US TV but what 
>> about Hogues you loved him,he even lives with you now. Irwin was a 
>> conservationist so they say but so was Harry Butler,Russel 
>> Coight,BobBrown .........
>> There is a word in the English language ........irony.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>>
>>
>>> Hi Clint,
>>>         You are telling us that this guy "touched the heart" of OVER 
>>> 147,867,706 Americans? (See: 
>>> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-07,RNWE:en&q=usa+population) I 
>>> would guess that the majority of Americans didn't even know who the guy 
>>> was prior to his death--and likely do not know now either. His death 
>>> was, indeed, a tragedy--but let's not overstate what it means!
>>>         Dave
>>> PS, Everyone IS NOT SPECIAL!
>>>
>>> At 10:37 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
>>>>Russell
>>>>
>>>>well he has touched the heart majority of Americans as well, he has my 
>>>>respect as what and who he was.
>>>>
>>>>Clint
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From bboyce at swat.coop  Tue Sep  5 18:59:28 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:59:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
Message-ID: <006501c6d158$16780750$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it 
finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only 
received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question concerns 
the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2 
distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor wired 
for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two are 
required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor becomes 
very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too hot 
? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  + terminal 
on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
any help will be appreciated,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas 




From bboyce at swat.coop  Tue Sep  5 19:13:11 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:13:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
Message-ID: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it
finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only
received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question concerns
the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2
distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor wired
for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two are
required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor becomes
very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too hot
? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  + terminal
on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
any help will be appreciated,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas




From bethell1 at iinet.net.au  Tue Sep  5 19:08:00 2006
From: bethell1 at iinet.net.au (Jim Bethell)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:08:00 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060905184238.01978ae0@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <000001c6d15a$95c4c3c0$158fa87c@xxxx>

Here, here!! Well said mate.
Jimbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Gilbert" <russell at ncable.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Sorry Pete but you will be short of support on this one.  I agree
> that the guy is out there way past normality. He did things that make
> us Aussies feel that his days were numbered. Mind you not this way.
> If you told me he died from a snake bite or the like I would say
> "Well what did you expect" None the less this guy has done wonders
> for Australian tourism. He has made many of the un-educated more
> aware of the need to respect wildlife along the greatly populated
> east cost. He also employed 500 locals in his local community. He
> rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous but never lost focus on who
> he was and his cause. I'm not much of a greenie I tell you that. But
> he was one of a kind and all done for the better good. Even if his
> ways were different to what a not so ex centric crock hunter may be.
> His got my respect for what he has done for awareness to wildlife
> etc. Doesn't mean I would have had him around for dinner. Just paying
> credit where credit is due.
> Russell
>
> At 09:46 AM 5/09/2006, you wrote:
> >He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this
> >country that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
> >Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great
> >White Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky
> >Divers,Policemen ,Fire men ,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc
> >etc ............
> >TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state
> >funeral is taking it a bit too far!
> >By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not
> >quite the show man as was the late Mr Irwin .
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dickerson"
<bill at antique-engines.com>
> >To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
> >
> >
> >>Agreed - and for those wondering:
> >>http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
> >>
> >>
> >>Bill
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rex002
> >>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:41 AM
> >>To: The SEL email discussion list
> >>Subject: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
> >>
> >>I  would like to express my sorrow for the loss Of Australian Steve
Irwin ,
> >>may the lord be with him and his family and all his fans , the world
will
> >>miss him
> >>
> >>Rex Hinz
> >>
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From jbcast at charter.net  Tue Sep  5 19:37:48 2006
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:37:48 -0700
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
Message-ID: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>

Bill, the purpose of the resistor is to reduce current across the points, increasing point life. The resistor will get hot. One should work for both coils because only one coil can fire at a time. Leaving the switch on with the engine stopped will allow a dead draw across the resistor if the points are closed, with twelve cylinders this is quite likely. Some vehicles had a bypass wire to supply battery voltage to the coil while cranking, the starter pulls voltage down, this compensates.
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA


From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  5 20:26:35 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:26:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
Message-ID: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
care of my fenders.
Contact me off list if you are able to help.
Thanks,
Joe
P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?

Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI USA

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From bolhuis at amtelecom.net  Tue Sep  5 22:03:53 2006
From: bolhuis at amtelecom.net (bolhuis at amtelecom.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 01:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Border_Bob  Thank's
Message-ID: <63150.67.58.202.85.1157519033.squirrel@mail.amtelecom.net>

   I just want to take a moment of your time to say a great Big THANK-YOU
for all of your generous donations to Bobs recovery fund!! Your
prayers, calls, donations and thoughtfulness are really appreciated.
Bob was very impressed by your caring and kindness. We will be moving
Bob to Parkwood Hospital on Thursday afternoon, this is a hospital that
specializes in nothing but brain therapy. I thank god that he WAS
wearing his helmet (it is law in Ontario) if he wasn't he would not be
with us still. Bob has a long way to go for recovery and we take it one
day at a time. He is walking better now although his legs are weak and
a bit stiff. He walks everyday a few times around the hospital. He has
recovered some movement in his foot and ankle, so it looks like he will
not have "foot drop" but still has some numbness in that lower right
leg.
 Everyday is a blessing and we thank you all, and those other strangers
and friends at Portland who donated and called after hearing about Bob's
accident.Please pass our heartfelt thanks to any you know that donated
but are not on this list.   Thank You again , Sheila & Bob Bolhuis



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 23:44:55 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:44:55 +0100
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
In-Reply-To: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
References: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609052344x6c1fb37doba9fea870f80fa77@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/09/06, Bill Boyce <bboyce at swat.coop> wrote:
> hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it
> finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only
> received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question concerns
> the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2
> distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor wired
> for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two are
> required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor becomes
> very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too hot
> ? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  + terminal
> on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
> any help will be appreciated,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
>
>

It's probably a cold-starting resistor that is shorted out during
starting to give a higher voltage to the coil, then put back in
circuit when the engine is running. Should be one per coil and it
should not run red hot!

The coils can be replaced by modern 12V types (the existing ones  are
probably rated for 9V or even 6V) and the resistors discarded.

When the engine is stopped and the points closed you will feed current
continuously through the coils and resistor.

Peter
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep  6 05:13:26 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
In-Reply-To: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
References: <007101c6d15a$010192e0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
Message-ID: <1179.165.206.180.140.1157544806.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Ballast resister, usually ceramic, although some have used a resistance wire.
Function is to reduce current flowing through coil during normal
operations. The coil won't handle the full 12v full-time.
Yes, they can get VERY hot, thus the ceramic, however, I wonder about one
resister taking care of two coils. Sounds like a bit much load.
Mopar used ceramic resisters, as did certain other companies.
My Javelin had a grp 19 Mallary coil and it required such a ballast
resister and came as part of the kit. Otherwise, the stock ignition used a
resistance wire made into the wiring harness.
Personally, I'd have one resister per coil - they will run way too hot to
touch, but sounds like a lot of current going through that one with two
coils.

Bill

> hello all,,,  we're almost done with the V12 Jimmy,,, trying to get it
> finished for a show this weekend,,, we've fired it on prime, but only
> received the carbs today, so thats on tomorrows list,,, my question
> concerns
> the old style ceramic resistor/resistors for the coils,, it has 2
> distributors and 2 coils,, when we got it, there was only one resistor
> wired
> for both coils,,, i;m not sure what the resistor does, or if one or two
> are
> required,,, when the ignition is on, the element in the one resistor
> becomes
> very hot, hot enough to turn it a dull red, does this sound like its too
> hot
> ? is the correct wiring for the resistor/resistors  between the  +
> terminal
> on the coil and battery voltage ? what is the function of the resistor ?
> any help will be appreciated,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
>
>
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From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep  6 05:15:43 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:15:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC electrical question
In-Reply-To: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>
References: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>
Message-ID: <1194.165.206.180.140.1157544943.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

Good points - the bypass is usually handled by the starter solenoid -
giving full "battery voltage" during cranking to increase spark intensity
while the starter is pulling the battery voltage down.

So, perhaps one resister COULD run two coils - I bet the thing wouldn't
run so hot then while running. They DO get hot normally, that's why they
are ceramic and typically mounted "in the clear".

Bill

> Bill, the purpose of the resistor is to reduce current across the points,
> increasing point life. The resistor will get hot. One should work for both
> coils because only one coil can fire at a time. Leaving the switch on with
> the engine stopped will allow a dead draw across the resistor if the
> points are closed, with twelve cylinders this is quite likely. Some
> vehicles had a bypass wire to supply battery voltage to the coil while
> cranking, the starter pulls voltage down, this compensates.
> J.B. Castagnos
> Belle Rose, LA
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  6 05:22:27 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:22:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>

Humm,

I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
Coolsprings show.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" <joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed


> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
> care of my fenders.
> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?
>
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
>
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From shop at cccomm.net  Wed Sep  6 05:45:06 2006
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:45:06 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <015e01c6d1b2$47b4e860$6401a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>

Who made your fenders?

Dave E
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" <joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed


> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
> care of my fenders.
> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?
>
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
>
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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Wed Sep  6 06:08:30 2006
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:08:30 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
References: <20060905123333.ZRTP10893.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <001c01c6d1b5$8cc515d0$5f11fea9@merlin>

thanks for tthe pics patrick
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From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics


> Finally catching up after a big weekend. I took the mighty 
> throttle-governed
> Stover YC up to Macksville on the weekend for the Rusty Iron Rally. The
> engine ran perfectly all weekend (how boring). It was a great weekend
> catching up with engine folk from all over NSW and QLD. The overall number
> of engines and tractors seemed to be down on previous years which I 
> suspect
> was partially due to the rising cost of fuel.
> Some pics at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri061.html
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 06:46:13 2006
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
In-Reply-To: <004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <20060906134613.8696.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Morning Ed.
  Coolsprings is 10 miles south of the Brookville, PA exit 78, I-80, on route 36.
  It's a great engine show for this part of the country. Lots of club owned engines and equipment, plud usually a big turnout of displayers. Well worth you efforts to see it. I don't know the dates but someone will. 
  Ron Frost
  

Ed stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:
  Humm,

I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
Coolsprings show.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Prindle" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed


> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, and
> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
> care of my fenders.
> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
> Thanks,
> Joe
> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and visit?
>
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI USA
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed Sep  6 08:46:16 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:46:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
In-Reply-To: <004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060906114509.03be9008@mail.alltel.net>

At 08:22 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>Humm,
>
>I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
>Coolsprings show.
>
>Ed Stoller

See: http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/
         Dave
PS, It's Coolspring--NOT Coolsprings!  



From marshallman at iprimus.com.au  Tue Sep  5 22:16:35 2006
From: marshallman at iprimus.com.au (Jim)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:16:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5
References: <200609051600.k85G05nq032588@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c6d173$9fdf8cf0$0200a8c0@user783e64edcc>

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:46:39 +0800
From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb at ogborneuah38i3>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

He was nothing special.......there are thousands of people in this country
that risk their lives every day in their normal days work .
Just think about the professional Abalone divers who work in Great White
Shark infested waters in the Southern Ocean. Sky Divers,Policemen ,Fire men
,Big Wave Surfers ,Human Cannonballs  etc etc ............
TV can turn Bullshit into a cult  and a quid so easily....a state funeral is
taking it a bit too far!
By the way ...there is another Crocodile Man ,Malcolm Douglas ,not quite the
show man as was the late Mr Irwin .

Hey Pete,

Keep taking the "Brave and courageous" pills mate ....

(They're working! LOL!!!!)

Seriously,

I was never a huge fan of the man (along with others ....an example ..... )

Jim
marshallman at iprimus.com.au
Runnin' with the wind .....
8^)

Yep Jim I agree with you, I didnt like the bloke myself, but he was a huge 
Oz icon that will be missed terribly. I feel so sad for his family......But 
as ya said Tone said it all. The tall poppy syndrome is alive and well.
Luv ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim
  To: scarschat at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [scarschat] Steve Irwin



  FYI .....

  http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,20349888-421,00.html

  As we Aussies say ..... You either loved or hated him.

  Personally, I found him to be too loud and abrasive for my tastes ...... 
but he certainly got his message across, and for that I admire and respect 
him.

  The world certainly did .... see the above comments .....

  I think TJ summed up my sentiments to a Tee .... far better than I could 
...... and I quote ....

  "Suddenly Steve is being lauded as a great Australian..............the 
intellectuals lampooned him, the feminists attacked him over his child 
raising techniques, the greenies ranted at his treatment of the environment 
and the animal rights mob were constantly attacking him.....Steve Irwin made 
it, not here in Australia, but like many great musicians , entertainers and 
sportspeople he had to go overeas
  to get anywhere....once he succeeded he was another tall poppy for the 
politically correct to try to chop down...
  Now he is dead thats no fun anymore so we'll make him one of our 
heros......."

  I enjoyed watching Steve Irwins show ....I was often critised for my bad 
taste..........to me he seemed a guy who was passionate about what he did, 
seemed to love his family and was an alright decent bloke....I feel sad that 
he has died............I hope his death doesnt become a circus."

  You may not have known what went on over here.

  Best wishes to both you and Julio ..... and show him the comments ...... 
to let him know he is not alone.

  Jim
  marshallman at iprimus.com.au
  8^)
  Runnin' with the wind ...

    Subject: Re: [scarschat] Steve Irwin



    Been crying for hours over his to the point I could not post it. To 
Americans he was an Aussie icon. To kids,big and little alike , he was a 
teacher and a friend through the lessons he gave. RIP to a kind and gentle 
man who died doing what he loved most.


      News just to hand is Steve Irwin has died from a stingray barb While 
filming off the Cairns coast. He was stung directly in the heart






From gauto527 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  6 12:49:36 2006
From: gauto527 at hotmail.com (george maattala)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:49:36 +0000
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Wed Sep  6 14:07:05 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:07:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
Message-ID: <20060906.170813.1400.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Gee - George,

All you have to do is unsubscribe.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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From fuller_johnson at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 14:31:41 2006
From: fuller_johnson at yahoo.com (Fuller & Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:31:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Rick Rowlands
Message-ID: <20060906213141.31114.qmail@web52314.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know where Rick has got to?  I can't seem to get in touch with him.  

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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 14:44:37 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:44:37 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>

Hi List,
Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If so, 
where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?  Nite Ize 
makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria,  California



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Sep  6 14:53:04 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:53:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <44FF4340.1010208@scrtc.com>

George,
    It couldn't be from the list.  We've been running at probably 25 
messages or so average a day for quite a bit.  You could only have 720 
from the SEL if you haven't checked your mail for a month.  Your email 
address may have been captured by the spammers.  Getting off the list 
won't solve this problem.  Getting a new email address will.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, Ky

> please take me off of your list i have over 720 messages in my emil 
> today this is out of control please take me 
> offfffffff!!!!!!!!!!......   aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!....( 
> gauto527 at hotmail.com)
>
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  6 15:01:01 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:01:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
In-Reply-To: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c6d1ff$f40594f0$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

I found a conversion for the small (2-AA batteries) at Wal-Mart.  Ended
up putting the old bulb back in; didn't seem NEAR as bright.

Lew Best near Waco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
FRM8198 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:45 PM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.

Hi List,
Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If
so, 
where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?
Nite Ize 
makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria,  California

 

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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  6 15:11:46 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:11:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906032635.87195.qmail@web31509.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004f01c6d1af$1e7899e0$ccb6f504@Ed>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060906114509.03be9008@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <004501c6d201$727a5d60$f1f5f504@Ed>

Thank you Dave and Ron,

I might just pick it up on the way home.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Hauling needed


> At 08:22 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>>Humm,
>>
>>I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this 
>>Coolsprings show.
>>
>>Ed Stoller
>
> See: http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/
>         Dave
> PS, It's Coolspring--NOT Coolsprings!
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 15:29:43 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:29:43 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <529.71cf6fe.3230a5d7@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 3:18:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bee_keeper at earthlink.net writes:

I found  a conversion for the small (2-AA batteries) at Wal-Mart.  Ended
up  putting the old bulb back in; didn't seem NEAR as  bright.


Thanks,
 
Francis


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep  6 15:57:15 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:57:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC 
In-Reply-To: <1194.165.206.180.140.1157544943.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
References: <572306781.1157510268751.JavaMail.root@fepweb06>
	<1194.165.206.180.140.1157544943.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <ddf291ed10e1ed35fe8ecee89c506a80@chartertn.net>

I want to see pictures of this thing!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  6 16:10:16 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:10:16 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Humour
Message-ID: <002d01c6d209$9ec977e0$3ac10b52@no1>

A certain person known on these groups (called Kim Siddorn) posted the attached tale on the English engine group.
I think it is worth repetition. 8^)
Read the Instructions!

 A friend of mine once built a canoe.  He spent a long time on it and 
it was a work of art. Almost the final phase was to fill both  ends 
with polyurethane expanding foam. 

He duly ordered the bits from Mr Glasplies (an excellent purveyor of 

all things fibreglass) and it arrived in two packs covered with appropriately 

dire warnings about expansion ratios and some very good notes on how to use it.

Unfortunately he had a degree, worse still two of them.  One 
was in Chemistry, so the instructions got thrown away and the 
other in something mathematical because in a few minutes he 
was merrily calculating the volume of his craft to many 
decimal places and the guidelines got binned as well. 
He propped the canoe up on one end, got a huge tin, carefully 
measured the calculated amounts of glop, mixed them and 
quickly poured the mixture in the end of the canoe (The twin 
pack expands very rapidly).

I arrived as he was completing this and I looked in to see 
the end chamber over half full of something Cawdors Witches 
would have been proud of.  Two thing occurred to me, one was 
the label which said in big letters: 
"Caution - expansion ration 50:1" (or something similar) and 
the other that the now empty tins said "approximately enough 
for 20 small craft".  Any comment was drowned out by a sea of 
yellow brown foam suddenly pouring out of the middle of the 
canoe and the end of the canoe bursting open.  My friend 
screamed and leapt at his pride and joy that was knocked to 
the ground as he started trying to bale handfuls of this 
stuff out with his hands. Knocking the craft over allowed the 
end as well. A few seconds later and we had a canoe with two 
exploded ends, a mountain of solid foam about 4ft high 
growing out of the middle, and a chemist firmly embedded up 
to his armpits in it.

Round about this time he discovered the reaction was 
exothermic and his hands and arms were getting very hot 
indeed. Running about in small circles in a confined space 
while glued to the remains of a fairly large canoe proved 
ineffective so he resorted to screaming a bit instead. 
Fortunately a Kukri was to hand so I attacked the foam around 
his hands with some enthusiasm.  The process was hindered by 
the noise he was making and the fact he was trying to escape 
while still attached to the canoe.

Eventually I managed to hack out a lump of foam still 
including most of his arms and hands.  Unfortunately my tears 
of laughter were not helping as they accelerated the foam 
setting. Seeking medical help was obviously out of the 
embarrassment of having to explain his occupation (Chief 
Research Chemist at a major petrochemical organisation) would 
simply never have been lived down. 
Several hours and much acrimony later we had removed 
sufficient foam (and much hair) to allow him to move again. 
However he still looked something like a failed audition for 
Quasimodo with red burns on his arms and expanded blobs of 
foam sticking everywhere. My comment that the scalding simply 
made the hairs the foam was sticking to come out easier was 
not met with the enthusiasm I felt it deserved.


I forgot to add that in retrospect rather unwisely he had set 
out to do this deed in the hallway of his house, it being the 
only place with sufficient headroom for the canoe, achieved 
by poking it up the stairwell.
 
Having extricated him we now were faced with the problem of a 
canoe construction kit embedded in a still gurgling block of 
foam which was now irrevocably bonded to the hall and stairs 
carpet as well as several banister rails and quite a lot of 
wallpaper. At this point his wife and her mother came back 
from shopping......Oh yes - and he had been wearing the 
pullover Mum in law had knitted him for his birthday the week before.





Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep  6 17:22:25 2006
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:22:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Humour
References: <002d01c6d209$9ec977e0$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <002b01c6d213$b1e64e70$336d4b47@mikecomp>

Now that's a GREAT story!!!!!!!

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "atis" <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: "Old Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:10 PM
Subject: [SEL] Humour


>A certain person known on these groups (called Kim Siddorn) posted the 
>attached tale on the English engine group.
> I think it is worth repetition. 8^)
> Read the Instructions!
>
> A friend of mine once built a canoe.  He spent a long time on it and it 
> was a work of art. Almost the final phase was to fill both  ends with 
> polyurethane expanding foam.
> He duly ordered the bits from Mr Glasplies (an excellent purveyor of
> all things fibreglass) and it arrived in two packs covered with 
> appropriately
> dire warnings about expansion ratios and some very good notes on how to 
> use it.
>
> Unfortunately he had a degree, worse still two of them.  One was in 
> Chemistry, so the instructions got thrown away and the other in something 
> mathematical because in a few minutes he was merrily calculating the 
> volume of his craft to many decimal places and the guidelines got binned 
> as well. He propped the canoe up on one end, got a huge tin, carefully 
> measured the calculated amounts of glop, mixed them and quickly poured the 
> mixture in the end of the canoe (The twin pack expands very rapidly).
>
> I arrived as he was completing this and I looked in to see the end chamber 
> over half full of something Cawdors Witches would have been proud of.  Two 
> thing occurred to me, one was the label which said in big letters: 
> "Caution - expansion ration 50:1" (or something similar) and the other 
> that the now empty tins said "approximately enough for 20 small craft". 
> Any comment was drowned out by a sea of yellow brown foam suddenly pouring 
> out of the middle of the canoe and the end of the canoe bursting open.  My 
> friend screamed and leapt at his pride and joy that was knocked to the 
> ground as he started trying to bale handfuls of this stuff out with his 
> hands. Knocking the craft over allowed the end as well. A few seconds 
> later and we had a canoe with two exploded ends, a mountain of solid foam 
> about 4ft high growing out of the middle, and a chemist firmly embedded up 
> to his armpits in it.
>
> Round about this time he discovered the reaction was exothermic and his 
> hands and arms were getting very hot indeed. Running about in small 
> circles in a confined space while glued to the remains of a fairly large 
> canoe proved ineffective so he resorted to screaming a bit instead. 
> Fortunately a Kukri was to hand so I attacked the foam around his hands 
> with some enthusiasm.  The process was hindered by the noise he was making 
> and the fact he was trying to escape while still attached to the canoe.
>
> Eventually I managed to hack out a lump of foam still including most of 
> his arms and hands.  Unfortunately my tears of laughter were not helping 
> as they accelerated the foam setting. Seeking medical help was obviously 
> out of the embarrassment of having to explain his occupation (Chief 
> Research Chemist at a major petrochemical organisation) would simply never 
> have been lived down. Several hours and much acrimony later we had removed 
> sufficient foam (and much hair) to allow him to move again. However he 
> still looked something like a failed audition for Quasimodo with red burns 
> on his arms and expanded blobs of foam sticking everywhere. My comment 
> that the scalding simply made the hairs the foam was sticking to come out 
> easier was not met with the enthusiasm I felt it deserved.
>
>
> I forgot to add that in retrospect rather unwisely he had set out to do 
> this deed in the hallway of his house, it being the only place with 
> sufficient headroom for the canoe, achieved by poking it up the stairwell.
>
> Having extricated him we now were faced with the problem of a canoe 
> construction kit embedded in a still gurgling block of foam which was now 
> irrevocably bonded to the hall and stairs carpet as well as several 
> banister rails and quite a lot of wallpaper. At this point his wife and 
> her mother came back from shopping......Oh yes - and he had been wearing 
> the pullover Mum in law had knitted him for his birthday the week before.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From falcon at telenet.net  Wed Sep  6 17:48:28 2006
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 20:48:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
In-Reply-To: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
References: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <44FF6C5C.3000102@telenet.net>



FRM8198 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi List,
> Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If so, 
> where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?  Nite Ize 
> makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.  
> 
> Francis  Maciel
> Santa Maria,  California
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
I have 5 of the Nite Ize units. They work OK but you lose the focusing 
ability. They also produce a bluish tinted light, that is more like a 
floodlight. Wal~Mart carries the conversion kits without the rear 
switch, Bass Pro Shops carries the one with the switch. The switch is 
nice BUT you have to remember to leave the lens loose so that the 
internal switch stays on.
If you want a real bright light they are not the thing. For that you 
want the new 1 WATT LED Mini Mag that just came out. They are a bit 
larger but DON'T look in the lens.

If you want a nice conversion for a full size Mag Lite, Mag has a 3 WATT 
LED conversion bulb for 19 bucks. It allows you to focus and REALLY 
light up the world. It works GREAT. I have 4 of them in the lights I use 
for fire duty. They are nice because they don't blow when dropped and 
they REALLY extend the battery life however when the batteries are dead 
the light just goes OUT. Just make sure you get the correct one for the 
light you have. They are NOT universal.

Nite Ize has a cheaper LED universal bulb for 2-6 cell lights but DON'T 
bother with it. It is JUNK and provides less light than dead batteries 
with the normal bulb.


-- 
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.


From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 19:19:25 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:19:25 EDT
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC 
Message-ID: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 4:16:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
johnculp at chartertn.net writes:

I want  to see pictures of this thing!


John,
I believe these are same GM gasoline engines that the Air  Force used in 
their Minuteman transporters.  They used gasoline engines  instead of diesel 
because of availability of gasoline versus diesel fuel in some  of the remote 
launch sites.  The transporter had  3- 4 MPG  rating.  At some of the sites in the 
mid west had to be fueled in route to  the launch area.  If I remember 
correctly, the transporters had a fuel  capacity of 120 gallons.
I don't remember the cubic inch displacement.  However,  12 cylinder was 
actually two 6 cylinder engines in tandem.  At the  beginning of the program, they 
had many drive line/transmission problems.  

Francis



From FRM8198 at aol.com  Wed Sep  6 19:24:04 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:24:04 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <37d.a8b56a1.3230dcc4@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 6:17:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
falcon at telenet.net writes:

I have 5  of the Nite Ize units. They work OK but you lose the focusing 
ability.  They also produce a bluish tinted light, that is more like a 
floodlight.  Wal~Mart carries the conversion kits without the rear 
switch, Bass Pro  Shops carries the one with the switch. The switch is 
nice BUT you have to  remember to leave the lens loose so that the 
internal switch stays  on.
If you want a real bright light they are not the thing. For that you  
want the new 1 WATT LED Mini Mag that just came out. They are a bit  
larger but DON'T look in the lens.



Thanks for the friendly suggestion.  

Francis



From asouth at strato.net  Wed Sep  6 19:25:08 2006
From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:25:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
References: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00ae01c6d224$d7283570$2b00a8c0@ARTHUR>

Here it is, 10:25 PM EDT and no one, not even Dave has jumped on poor ole 
George and told him the correct way to "get off the list". Come on, you guys 
are slipping a bit!

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, Florida, USA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "george maattala" <gauto527 at hotmail.com>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list


> please take me off of your list i have over 720 messages in my emil today 
> this is out of control please take me offfffffff!!!!!!!!!!...... 
> aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!....( gauto527 at hotmail.com)
>
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From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 20:25:56 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
In-Reply-To: <015e01c6d1b2$47b4e860$6401a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
Message-ID: <20060907032556.96594.qmail@web31511.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Robert Lefever is making my fenders for me. He has been supplying new
fenders for old tractors for several decades and his work is second to
none. I don't recall if he has had an ad in any of the hobby magazines
lately, but if you want to contact him, here is his phone number:
717-548-4131, and his ads say to call between 8:00 am and 11:00 pm EST.
If he has mine done and a set for my friend Kevin's 10-20 Mogul, we are
going to run out to Coolspring and meet him to pick them up. Should be a
good time.
Later,
Joe

--- Dave Ernst <shop at cccomm.net> wrote:

> Who made your fenders?
> 
> Dave E


Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI USA

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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep  6 20:44:44 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:44:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC 
In-Reply-To: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
References: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
Message-ID: <71a3732ff64f86beee079aec9ade3285@chartertn.net>

> I believe these are same GM gasoline engines that the Air  Force used 
> in
> their Minuteman transporters.  They used gasoline engines  instead of 
> diesel
> because of availability of gasoline versus diesel fuel in some  of the 
> remote
> launch sites.  The transporter had  3- 4 MPG  rating.  At some of the 
> sites in the
> mid west had to be fueled in route to  the launch area.  If I remember
> correctly, the transporters had a fuel  capacity of 120 gallons.
> I don't remember the cubic inch displacement.  However,  12 cylinder 
> was
> actually two 6 cylinder engines in tandem.  At the  beginning of the 
> program, they
> had many drive line/transmission problems.

Sounds like a cool engine!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep  6 20:48:53 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:48:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] stationary engine list
In-Reply-To: <00ae01c6d224$d7283570$2b00a8c0@ARTHUR>
References: <BAY103-F495413404437A4EECE71997310@phx.gbl>
	<00ae01c6d224$d7283570$2b00a8c0@ARTHUR>
Message-ID: <545c5d434ebbb814659335359a26456c@chartertn.net>

We're tired, Arthur. At least, I am.

Maybe he'll eventually look at the bottom of one of these messages, and 
a glimmer of recognition will start to flicker dimly beneath his 
beetled brows...

After all, he did go to the 
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel site when he 
signed up to get on this list.

John

On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote:

> Here it is, 10:25 PM EDT and no one, not even Dave has jumped on poor 
> ole George and told him the correct way to "get off the list". Come 
> on, you guys are slipping a bit!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From jmackess at twcny.rr.com  Wed Sep  6 22:21:30 2006
From: jmackess at twcny.rr.com (James Mackessy)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 01:21:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
References: <c07.374b02e.32309b45@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000801c6d23d$848f2710$e84acf45@ownerfm3tybt04>

Hi Francis;
     If you're talking about the Mini-Maglite, I got the kit at Lowes. It's
easy to install, and does need the end switch,
gives a nice white lite, but you lose the ability to focus it.
Jim M.
----- Original Message -----
From: <FRM8198 at aol.com>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.


> Hi List,
> Has any one converted their Maglite flash light(s) to use  LED(s)?  If so,
> where did you get the conversion kit?  Is the cap  switch required?  Nite
Ize
> makes one, but, I haven't been able to find a  sales outlet.
>
> Francis  Maciel
> Santa Maria,  California
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Wed Sep  6 22:38:03 2006
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:38:03 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
References: <20060906134613.8696.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004a01c6d23f$c9f9c600$f301a8c0@armstrong>

try this site
http://www.farmcollectorshowdirectory.com/
Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
V.C.C. of WA. member
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Frost, Kersey, PA" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Hauling needed


> Morning Ed.
>  Coolsprings is 10 miles south of the Brookville, PA exit 78, I-80, on 
> route 36.
>  It's a great engine show for this part of the country. Lots of club owned 
> engines and equipment, plud usually a big turnout of displayers. Well 
> worth you efforts to see it. I don't know the dates but someone will.
>  Ron Frost
>
>
> Ed stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  Humm,
>
> I plan to be in Missouri in October; could someone give me a link to this
> Coolsprings show.
>
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Prindle"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:26 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed
>
>
>> If anyone from the midwest intends to go to Coolsprings in October, I am
>> looking to get a pair of new fenders for my Titan 10-20 hauled back this
>> way. Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of Baraboo would be great, 
>> and
>> I am willing to pay someone who can help me out and promises to take good
>> care of my fenders.
>> Contact me off list if you are able to help.
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>> P.S. Anyone going to the show at Albany, MN and want to meet up and 
>> visit?
>>
>> Joe Prindle
>> Baraboo, WI USA
>>
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>
>  http://community.webshots.com/user/ron15846
>
> " Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise "
>
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 23:35:26 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:35:26 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Rick Rowlands
In-Reply-To: <20060906213141.31114.qmail@web52314.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060906213141.31114.qmail@web52314.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609062335l445cdbb9j8bf300122473c76d@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/09/06, Fuller & Johnson <fuller_johnson at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know where Rick has got to?  I can't seem to get in touch with him.
>
> Cheers!  NICK
>

Hasn't he just moved house?

Saw something either on the Lists or on Smokestak in the past week.

Peter
-- 
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Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 23:48:47 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:48:47 +0100
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC
In-Reply-To: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
References: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609062348y7935dd56we81ce87f9f642bca@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/09/06, FRM8198 at aol.com <FRM8198 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2006 4:16:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> johnculp at chartertn.net writes:
>
> I want  to see pictures of this thing!
>
>
> John,
> I believe these are same GM gasoline engines that the Air  Force used in
> their Minuteman transporters.  They used gasoline engines  instead of diesel
> because of availability of gasoline versus diesel fuel in some  of the remote
> launch sites.  The transporter had  3- 4 MPG  rating.  At some of the sites in the
> mid west had to be fueled in route to  the launch area.  If I remember
> correctly, the transporters had a fuel  capacity of 120 gallons.
> I don't remember the cubic inch displacement.  However,  12 cylinder was
> actually two 6 cylinder engines in tandem.  At the  beginning of the program, they
> had many drive line/transmission problems.
>
> Francis
>

Bit of stuff here:

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/TwinSix.htm

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/V6powered.htm

Peter
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Sep  6 23:57:02 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:57:02 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain/Petter W1
In-Reply-To: <200609061600.k86G04ex022962@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <20060907090193.SM01024@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 06/09/2006, you wrote:
>Message: 8
>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:58:10 +0100
>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Gold Plated Chamberlain
>
>
>Hi Jerry, see the pictures on this Ebay page.
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stationary-engine-petter-w1_W0QQitemZ130020874986QQihZ003QQcategoryZ58177QQcmdZViewItem
>Dave Croft
>Warrington
>http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
>http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>

Thanks Dave


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  


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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Thu Sep  7 00:24:12 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:24:12 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <57c.4a3a715.3231231c@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2006 10:16:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jmackess at twcny.rr.com writes:

If  you're talking about the Mini-Maglite, I got the kit at Lowes. It's
easy to  install, and does need the end switch,
gives a nice white lite, but you  lose the ability to focus it.


In a message dated 9/6/2006 9:28:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
segray at mlode.com writes:

I just  happen to see the kits at Wal-Mart the other night. Didn't pay much 
attention  to any details because I was looking for something else at the time. 
I would  imagine all "Wally Worlds" have 'em if one does.
No Lowe's here,  I will check on Wal-Mart.  Thanks for  the information.
 
Francis


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Thu Sep  7 03:49:13 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:49:13 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Plix lighting plant
Message-ID: <000301c6d26b$45971260$25f531cb@ogborneuah38i3>

Does any one know anything about the Plix Lighting Plant ,made in New York 
circa 1928?
Peter Ogborne
Little Grove ,Albany
West Australia
''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
jopeter at omninet.net.au 




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Thu Sep  7 13:03:41 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:03:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] V12 GMC
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609062348y7935dd56we81ce87f9f642bca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d7.3e34981f.3230dbad@aol.com>
	<6f6025160609062348y7935dd56we81ce87f9f642bca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a4cfaf06a49d9f5b9992d082e90fb124@chartertn.net>

> Bit of stuff here:
>
> http://www.6066gmcguy.org/TwinSix.htm
>
> http://www.6066gmcguy.org/V6powered.htm
>
> Peter

Very cool! Especially the page on repowered applications. I think I'd 
have a time trying to fit that V12 in my Chevette, though. It weighs 
nearly as much as the whole car, Isuzu Diesel and all.

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep  7 13:14:14 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:14:14 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Humour
Message-ID: <c32.25d938e.3231d796@aol.com>


Dave,

What a great story!  How long did it take to get everything out of the house? 

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Sep  7 19:27:01 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:27:01 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Attn; Rick Rowlands
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV9C78A8AF7EEDD0CDC221ABB370@phx.gbl>

  Please contact me off list.

  RickinMt.


From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Thu Sep  7 19:57:10 2006
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:57:10 +0800
Subject: [SEL] OT....but firearm related
Message-ID: <000501c6d2f2$7e5b2960$d7b731cb@ogborneuah38i3>

Building a replica Springfield percussion pistol from a picture ...Civil war 
era. Can anyone give me the approx wall thickness of the barrel [ round] 
.The bore is .516 ''
Thanks.............
Peter Ogborne
Little Grove ,Albany
West Australia
''Heart of the Rainbow Coast ''
jopeter at omninet.net.au 




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Thu Sep  7 20:36:25 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:36:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT....but firearm related
In-Reply-To: <000501c6d2f2$7e5b2960$d7b731cb@ogborneuah38i3>
References: <000501c6d2f2$7e5b2960$d7b731cb@ogborneuah38i3>
Message-ID: <deb0aad12a33afa014dc3ef834483801@chartertn.net>

Peter, I've never had one of those. Can you find a picture that show 
the breech from above, with some identifiable scale of reference so you 
can determine the barrel width at the breech?

John

On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:57 PM, peter ogborne wrote:

> Building a replica Springfield percussion pistol from a picture 
> ...Civil war era. Can anyone give me the approx wall thickness of the 
> barrel [ round] .The bore is .516 ''
> Thanks.............


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  8 10:47:46 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:47:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
Message-ID: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>

Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter serving cookies.

John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.

Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696     http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html



Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Fri Sep  8 06:19:10 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:19:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT.  To the aussies
References: <20060904141018.05DB1313C2B@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org><002601c6d07c$61565dd0$5ec231cb@ogborneuah38i3><009c01c6d08a$7cd0a2b0$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6><000e01c6d094$0f11cd80$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
	<008d01c6d098$2abb9260$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001b01c6d349$61061620$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

Thanks for that Paul.What with the loss of my good friend TED then Steve
Irwin it was bad enough but to top it of an Ozy motor racing icon Peter
Brock was killed today in a rally crash in Western Australia .To many in
Australia he was  admired and very highly regarded.He was one of the
greatest in motor sport here.He was 61 years old and had been racing for 30
years.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies


> Ed what a terrible loss losing Steve Erwin, all of us in America loved
Steve
> and he will be sorely missed. My condolences to you and all of your
> countrymen.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT. To the aussies
>
>
> > Well said Cam!
> > EDD PAYNE
> > PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> > Australia
> > 2852
> > Phone:0263742387
> > edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> > edsengns
> >
>
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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Sat Sep  9 19:46:51 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:46:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>

I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
aluminum flywheel be used for?

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
To: "stationary-engine at atis.net" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo


Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen 
this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I want 
to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter serving 
cookies.

John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the cast 
iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass either. I 
want to save mine to take to them next year.

Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696 
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html



Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  9 19:56:09 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:56:09 +1000
Subject: [SEL] no go
Message-ID: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>

I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to me
and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  9 04:34:51 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:34:51 +1000
Subject: [SEL] test
Message-ID: <000801c6d403$f7958700$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>


EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W 
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep  9 13:39:44 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:39:44 +0200
Subject: [SEL] John Robson Help needed
Message-ID: <200609092310562.SM01856@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         I got a mail from a chap in Israel today asking for some help with 
a John Robson engine.

         I've put a page here:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/israel/index.htm>

         Even if you cannot help I think it is worth looking at the page - 
this is a beautiful engine and the pic he sent of it in it's original 
working surroundings is just awesome.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Fri Sep  8 10:01:43 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:01:43 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Help in putting engine pictures to the list's
Message-ID: <009e01c6d368$771badc0$3ac10b52@no1>

While checking the new webshots I discovered it has a new facility for posting pictures.
If you go to  http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/ it will let you copy a picture from your computer to the
program, & this will then give you an address which you can then send to someone or post on a newsgroup.
This is totally free.   You don't even need to join webshots .
I just tried it with a picture & it gave me the address http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002319821167460958
A few adverts but the picture is shown OK.
This can help anyone with no webpage or photo-program.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep  9 13:38:36 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:38:36 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R update-hold thumbs!
Message-ID: <200609092310390.SM01856@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         Hold thumbs for me tomorrow. The 1928 Wolseley R is almost ready 
for a test startup.

         For those who missed earlier posts on this engine:

         It is a 6 H.P. Wolseley Type R that followed me home in December 
last year. It had no flywheels when found and being only one of two engines 
of this type (that I know of) in South Africa there was no chance of 
finding a set lying around. I was lucky enough to obtain a set of Lister 
616 spoked flywheels and my friend, Justin Ludewig has made an excellent 
job of making them fit. This will all be documented on a webpage when the 
engine is finished so I will not go into details now. Suffice to say that I 
think that the engine looks a 1000 times better with these spoked flywheels 
than the original Wolseley solid flywheels - he's now a damned handsome bugger.

         In fact Justin has done 99.9% of the restoration of this engine so 
I cannot claim credit. I think he has done an excellent job.

         I'm not going to go into details of the work required and done - 
webpage will follow soon. Once we have it running well them I will start to 
clean it up and paint it as well as make a nice trolley for it.

         I've put a sneak preview pic here:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/karoo/9Sept06.jpg>

         The fuel tank & cooling water connections are temporary and I have 
to make a temporary exhaust tomorrow morning just for the startup. The 
grinding marks on the barrel (cylinder) are where we welded up a crack 
caused by frost.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sat Sep  9 02:37:35 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:37:35 EDT
Subject: [SEL] - Maglite LED Conversion O.T.
Message-ID: <367.c96537d.3233e55f@aol.com>

Hi List,
Thanks to the input I received from members of the list, I was able  to pick 
up LED conversion kits for three of my MagLites.  Our local WalMart  had them. 
 I was able to get the unit for the 2 - 6 cell replacement LED  which replace 
the original bulb.  This replacement LED  bulb also fits the Gordon 
flashlight which is a knock off  of the MagLite.  The LED unit for the Mini Maglite has 
three LEDs and give  good light.
Again, I offer my thanks to the list for providing me with  excellent data as 
usual.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria,  California




From sewell at oak.cats.ohiou.edu  Sat Sep  9 20:05:35 2006
From: sewell at oak.cats.ohiou.edu (steve sewell)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:05:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060909230140.00ba5b88@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>

Rick: They can do both. He did the aluminum so the mold could be taken off 
while we were still there instead of the longer wait for iron.It was a very 
interesting trip!!
- Steve


At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>
>Rick
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
>To: "stationary-engine at atis.net" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Cc: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:47 PM
>Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
>demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
>below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen 
>this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I 
>want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter 
>serving cookies.
>
>John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the 
>cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass 
>either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.
>
>Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696 
>http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html
>
>
>
>Ed Stoller
>New Fairfield, CT
>http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at atis.net
sewell at ohio.edu



From dmisch13355 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  9 09:58:32 2006
From: dmisch13355 at yahoo.com (don misch)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20060909165832.32781.qmail@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Please unsubscribe me from the SEL mailing list. 
Thank you. DM

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From rustyjnk at ncbb.net  Sat Sep  9 21:29:27 2006
From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (rustyjnk)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:29:27 -0700
Subject: [SEL] no go
In-Reply-To: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
References: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <450394A7.8090702@ncbb.net>

Ed, I just received your post.Loomis Calfornia. Norm Karde

Edd Payne wrote:

>I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
>test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to me
>and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts.
>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>Australia
>2852
>Phone:0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>edsengns
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>  
>



From rustyjnk at ncbb.net  Sat Sep  9 21:30:38 2006
From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (rustyjnk)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:30:38 -0700
Subject: [SEL] test
In-Reply-To: <000801c6d403$f7958700$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
References: <000801c6d403$f7958700$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <450394EE.9030702@ncbb.net>

Received  this one in Loomis Ca.. Nkarde

Edd Payne wrote:

>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W 
>Australia
>2852
>Phone:0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>edsengns
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>
>  
>



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Sun Sep 10 00:07:20 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:07:20 +1000
Subject: [SEL] no go
References: <000b01c6d484$ab309fe0$73d41fd3@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <003601c6d4a7$c306fd80$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Hi Edd
            Yep you are coming through loud and clear .  Cheers Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edd Payne" <edsengns at optusnet.com.au>
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: [SEL] no go


>I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
> test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to 
> me
> and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep 10 02:06:58 2006
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:06:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <001201c6d4b8$786c9210$f954693a@morris>

G'Day Ed
Likewise well done to Grandpa's Casting Co for a few very informative hours 
in which I totally enjoyed.
I totally forgot to take ANY pictures at all while listening to John 
describe and show us the total process.

Well done also to Curt for the fist class pattern he had made for the 
flywheel.

And thanks to Leroy, Dave and the others that arranged the visit, another 
highlight of my trip.


Kerry Morris
Lithgow N.S.W  OZ

WEB:  www.members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/

skype ID:   ozengine



> Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
> demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
> below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen 
> this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I 
> want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter 
> serving cookies.
>



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 10 05:22:38 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 08:22:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] John Robson Help needed
References: <200609092310562.SM01856@new.databak.co.za>
Message-ID: <007701c6d4d3$ce8ca6b0$4ad14c0c@D48VHZ61>

Very neat looking machine!!!

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] John Robson Help needed


> Hi Guys,
>         I got a mail from a chap in Israel today asking for some help with 
> a John Robson engine.
>
>         I've put a page here:
> <www.oldengine.org/members/evans/israel/index.htm>
>
>         Even if you cannot help I think it is worth looking at the page - 
> this is a beautiful engine and the pic he sent of it in it's original 
> working surroundings is just awesome.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
> ---
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>
> 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Sep 10 05:38:36 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:38:36 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <20060910123836.QACW3131.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I hope to see plenty of Oz list members at the Clarendon Classic this coming
weekend. The feature is IHC so I am taking my Cooper badged Stover because
it is still on the trailer after coming home from Macksville. 
See you all there :)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep 10 06:16:15 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:16:15 EDT
Subject: [SEL] no go
Message-ID: <c08.3dc5ed4.32356a1f@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
edsengns at optusnet.com.au writes:

<< I am not getting any list mail.I have sent a test with no reply not even my
 test..If there is mail getting through could some of you reply of list to me
 and let me know if you get this and any other of my posts. >>


Maybe someone over there needs to contact Edd and tell him to contact 
Spencer.  He may have the same problem I have with AOL every so often and that is AOL 
will not let my list mail come to me thinking it is some type of spam. Only 
Spencer can straighten it out with them.  Thanks Spencer! 

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep 10 10:23:29 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:23:29 +0100
Subject: [SEL] OT - York Railway Museum visit
Message-ID: <6f6025160609101023i107625f6rf916f723352af730@mail.gmail.com>

Something for the rail enthusiasts:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/YorkMuseum/YorkMenu1.htm

There are 87 picture pages spread over 3 menu pages with thumbnails.

(From the main menu it is the bottom right hand icon)

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 10 13:40:06 2006
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:40:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT - York Railway Museum visit
Message-ID: <410-22006901020406640@earthlink.net>

Very nice!

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
> To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Cc: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Date: 9/10/2006 12:26:18 PM
> Subject: [SEL] OT - York Railway Museum visit
>
> Something for the rail enthusiasts:
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/YorkMuseum/YorkMenu1.htm
>
> There are 87 picture pages spread over 3 menu pages with thumbnails.
>
> (From the main menu it is the bottom right hand icon)
>
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 10 15:24:39 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:24:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Connecticut Show
Message-ID: <003101c6d527$e8235bb0$5ba4f504@Ed>

Our Connecticut Antique Machinery show is coming up 23 and 24 Sept;  http://www.ctamachinery.com/   . Anybody needing a place to stay can contact me.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 


From rotigel at alltel.net  Sun Sep 10 19:30:27 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:30:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>

At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>
>Rick

I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is about 
two weeks!
         Dave 



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 10 19:32:21 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:32:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Another show
Message-ID: <00ad01c6d54a$82babc50$5ba4f504@Ed>

Is there ( or was there ) a show at Zagray Farm  in Colchester, Connecticut this year?

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 


From oiseming at moscow.com  Sun Sep 10 20:04:05 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:04:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: OT - York Railway Museum visit
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609101023i107625f6rf916f723352af730@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200609110304.k8B34LSA005848@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Peter, thank you for posting the pictures.  The museum seems immense.  I'm
impressed with it as well as your outstanding pictorial tour of it.  

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:23 AM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: OT - York Railway Museum visit

Something for the rail enthusiasts:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/YorkMuseum/YorkMenu1.htm

There are 87 picture pages spread over 3 menu pages with thumbnails.

(From the main menu it is the bottom right hand icon)

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel





From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 04:04:43 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:04:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>

If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage over 
me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 1 and have 
to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt again.  The 
only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment was the electric 
company.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>
>>Rick
>
> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
> about two weeks!
>         Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From ELIDAS at aol.com  Mon Sep 11 04:12:12 2006
From: ELIDAS at aol.com (ELIDAS at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:12:12 EDT
Subject: [SEL]Another Connecticut Show
Message-ID: <c3c.2602eba.32369e8c@aol.com>

Tobacco Valley Flywheelers show is this weekend. Rte 154 Haddam Meadows  
State Park.
We have lottsa room so don't be afraid to bring a lot or anything  big.
 
Mike



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 14:28:45 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:28:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>

Rick,  
    I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
somewhat surprised its not.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time 
> advantage over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily 
> since day 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before 
> I can melt again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry 
> experiment was the electric company.
>
> Rick
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>> aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>
>>
>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>> about two weeks!
>>         Dave
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 11 15:34:27 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:34:27 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R - please vote
Message-ID: <20060912011031.SM01684@new.databak.co.za>

Hi all the SEL Guys,
         I've copied this over from the "oldengine" list. It is about my 
Wolseley Type R
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>

At 12:10 PM 11/09/2006, you wrote: (Kim Siddorn)

>Now that's the restoration I like to see! Fixed the problems, retained as 
>much of the original finish as possible - excellent!
>Regards,
>Kim Siddorn
>Time flies like an arrow
>Fruit flies like a banana

Hi Kim,
         Thanks for the praise.
         I'm in two minds as to what I should do next - my plan was to 
strip it down and repaint but I actually like it as it is now.

         Maybe I should ask the lists to give me a vote. How about it ?

         C'mon guys lets hear from you with some good explanations as to 
why I should go this way or that. Must I strip it down and repaint it or 
should I keep it looking like this.

         My original plan was to build a trolley (transporter to you guys 
living north of Mexico) as I have some good illustrations of what the 
original looked like but I'm now also thinking that maybe a flat steel deck 
covered with wooden floorboards and having removable wheels would also look 
good. This is not an original idea - I saw it on one of your engines - I 
cannot remember exactly whose it was - maybe Rick Strobel ? I think it was 
a Goolds (Goulds) engine. The subject cropped up during a discussion on 
Jacks. He had wheels that just "clipped in" for moving and loading but were 
removed when in position at shows. Looked great standing flat on the ground.
         This would also be good for "anchoring" the engine as I plan on 
using it to drive a 1930's Ransomes  "Moon" Corn Sheller. 
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/letz/>

         Thanks in advance for all the replies I hope to get.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 11 15:53:42 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:53:42 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R
Message-ID: <200609120110718.SM00524@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys,
         The 1928 Wolseley R  6 H.P. is running.
         I've put some stuff on this page - more will be added to later - 
please have a look -thanks
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/WolseleyR/index.htm>
         Sorry for being so brief but I've had a lot of pressure lately and 
am tired - I can hear my bed calling.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 16:41:25 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:41:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>

Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the actual 
electric that I use.

I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar with 
from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with other 
types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired reverb.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
> somewhat surprised its not.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>> over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 1 
>> and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>> again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment was 
>> the electric company.
>>
>> Rick
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>
>>
>>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>> aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>> about two weeks!
>>>         Dave
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 17:26:28 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:26:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>

If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd 
be interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big 
lathe and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it 
would be placed.  Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey 
> wrench called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively 
> kills any profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW 
> for the actual electric that I use.
>
> I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was 
> familiar with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right 
> now with other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or 
> oil fired reverb.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
> <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>> Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>> somewhat surprised its not.
>>
>> Tommy Turner
>> Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time 
>>> advantage over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money 
>>> steadily since day 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled 
>>> furnace before I can melt again.  The only ones who made out with my 
>>> little foundry experiment was the electric company.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>
>>>
>>>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would 
>>>>> the aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time 
>>>> is about two weeks!
>>>>         Dave
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 18:01:17 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:01:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil 
engine. It can be seen at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to 
haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the job, 
but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know the 
weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
	Dave
PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure 
is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down under 
can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes all 
three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 18:08:31 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:08:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy> <4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy> <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Rick,
         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be willing 
to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please keep in mind 
that judges are a part of government (the third branch, as I recall.)
         Dave

At 08:26 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd be 
>interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big lathe 
>and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it would be 
>placed.  Thanks.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>>Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>>called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
>>profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>>actual electric that I use.
>>
>>I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>>with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>>other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired reverb.
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>
>>
>>>Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>>somewhat surprised its not.
>>>
>>>Tommy Turner
>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>>If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>>>>over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 
>>>>1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>>>>again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment 
>>>>was the electric company.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>>>>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>>>>about two weeks!
>>>>>         Dave
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
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>>
>
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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 18:14:33 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:14:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com><003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c6d608$ce1bd210$05e14044@pengy>

I don't think I can sell the unit as I don't technically own the MG set.  I 
don't want to sell it anyways just in case I would need it someday.

The lathe would go to 249 North Water Ave., Sharon, PA 16146.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd be 
> interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big lathe 
> and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it would be 
> placed.  Thanks.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>> Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>> called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
>> profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>> actual electric that I use.
>>
>> I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>> with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>> other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired 
>> reverb.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
>> <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>
>>
>>> Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>> somewhat surprised its not.
>>>
>>> Tommy Turner
>>> Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>> If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>>>> over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 
>>>> 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>>>> again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment 
>>>> was the electric company.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>>>> aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>>>> about two weeks!
>>>>>         Dave
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
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From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Mon Sep 11 18:37:26 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:37:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy><6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com><003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <00b801c6d60c$00b1ed10$05e14044@pengy>

Isn't that branch called the "Back Door Legislative Branch"?

Dave unless you can do better than $72.58 then its no deal.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> Hi Rick,
>         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be willing 
> to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please keep in mind 
> that judges are a part of government (the third branch, as I recall.)
>         Dave
>
> At 08:26 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>>If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd be 
>>interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big lathe 
>>and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it would be 
>>placed.  Thanks.
>>
>>Tommy Turner
>>Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>>Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>>>called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills any 
>>>profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>>>actual electric that I use.
>>>
>>>I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>>>with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>>>other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired 
>>>reverb.
>>>
>>>Rick
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
>>><lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>>>somewhat surprised its not.
>>>>
>>>>Tommy Turner
>>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time advantage 
>>>>>over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money steadily since day 
>>>>>1 and have to design and build a solid fueled furnace before I can melt 
>>>>>again.  The only ones who made out with my little foundry experiment 
>>>>>was the electric company.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rick
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would the 
>>>>>>>aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time is 
>>>>>>about two weeks!
>>>>>>         Dave
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 19:00:54 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:00:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>
	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <450614D6.6090802@scrtc.com>

Yes, the GOOD Branch of Government.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> Hi Rick,
>         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be 
> willing to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please 
> keep in mind that judges are a part of government (the third branch, 
> as I recall.)
>         Dave
>
>



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 19:01:04 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:01:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <00a901c6d608$ce1bd210$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed><006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net><001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy>	<4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com><003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy>	<4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<00a901c6d608$ce1bd210$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <450614E0.9050808@scrtc.com>

Thanks Rick, I'll forward the info to him so he can work up a quote.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> I don't think I can sell the unit as I don't technically own the MG 
> set.  I don't want to sell it anyways just in case I would need it 
> someday.
>
> The lathe would go to 249 North Water Ave., Sharon, PA 16146.
>
> Rick
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 19:15:50 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:15:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <00b801c6d60c$00b1ed10$05e14044@pengy>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<006401c6d483$5e5179c0$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060910222910.03e19e80@mail.alltel.net>
	<001101c6d592$164267b0$05e14044@pengy> <4505D50D.8080101@scrtc.com>
	<003701c6d5fb$cba25980$05e14044@pengy> <4505FEB4.60607@scrtc.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060911210320.03f39e18@mail.alltel.net>
	<00b801c6d60c$00b1ed10$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911221442.03f9be00@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Rick, Sorry, $69.69 is my best offer.
         Dave

At 09:37 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>Isn't that branch called the "Back Door Legislative Branch"?
>
>Dave unless you can do better than $72.58 then its no deal.
>
>Rick
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>
>
>>Hi Rick,
>>         Don't sell the furnace to the Judge before we talk. I'd be 
>> willing to give you $69.69 for the thing sight unseen. Also please keep 
>> in mind that judges are a part of government (the third branch, as I recall.)
>>         Dave
>>
>>At 08:26 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>>>If you decide to sell your induction furnace, please let me know as I'd 
>>>be interested.  I'm going to get you a quote Rick on trucking the big 
>>>lathe and shaper to your place.  Please give me the address of where it 
>>>would be placed.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>Tommy Turner
>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>
>>>
>>>>Its more efficient until the electric company throws in a monkey wrench 
>>>>called "demand".  At 80KW demand x $14 per KW that effectively kills 
>>>>any profit that I might make. Then you add the .05 cents per KW for the 
>>>>actual electric that I use.
>>>>
>>>>I chose to go with an induction furnace because its what I was familiar 
>>>>with from other foundries.  I'm exploring other options right now with 
>>>>other types of melting furnaces, either coke fired cupola or oil fired reverb.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:28 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rick,  I thought that electric would be more efficient than gas.  I'm 
>>>>>somewhat surprised its not.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tommy Turner
>>>>>Magnolia, KY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If he is melting with propane he has a definate cost and time 
>>>>>>advantage over me with the electric furnace.  I've lost money 
>>>>>>steadily since day 1 and have to design and build a solid fueled 
>>>>>>furnace before I can melt again.  The only ones who made out with my 
>>>>>>little foundry experiment was the electric company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
>>>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 10:46 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought they were making iron castings over there.  What would 
>>>>>>>>the aluminum flywheel be used for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I understand that with either AL or Cast Iron the turn around time 
>>>>>>>is about two weeks!
>>>>>>>         Dave
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>SEL mailing list
>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 11 19:25:39 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:25:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <006101c6d612$beb62000$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

Is the 7k trailer 7k load or 7k gvw?  Engine sure looks heavy!!!!!!!!
My 10k gvw weighs bout 2500 so only 7500 for load; if 7k is gvw I sure
wouldn't wanna try it! 

Lew Best near Waco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Rotigel
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:01 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed

Hi All,
	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral
oil 
engine. It can be seen at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan
to 
haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the
job, 
but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know
the 
weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
	Dave
PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it
sure 
is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down
under 
can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes
all 
three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!

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http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 11 19:26:52 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:26:52 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <45061AEC.2070806@scrtc.com>

Dave,
    I've got an 8 HP Austral on its way from Australia.  I can't help 
you on what it weighs but I know your's is heavier than mine!  Here's 
some photos of it:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009203&a=32298706&f=

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


> Hi All,
>     I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral 
> oil engine. It can be seen at: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I 
> plan to haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 
> will do the job, but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. 
> Thus I need to know the weight of this engine. Any help will be 
> appreciated!
>     Dave
> PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it 
> sure is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
> PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down 
> under can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it 
> takes all three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 19:29:06 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:29:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg LOST??????????????
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911221614.03f42d78@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Steve Royster just contacted me. His server is down. In any event he was 
to pick Reg up at the airport tonight. Reg never showed up and upon 
investigation Steve determined that Reg never got on the airplane. So the 
BIG question is--WHERE THE HELL IS REG!  If anyone knows please contact 
Steve at his cell phone at 828.776.4918, or his home phone at 828. 645.5396.
	Dave
PS, Marg, Don't worry. We will take fine care of this National Treasure 
from OZ!
PPS, When someone knows what in the hell has happened to Reg please post it 
to the List so that we all can go to sleep!



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon Sep 11 19:43:57 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:43:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <f43f9c2d55f03c40a83e4c980c8c064d@chartertn.net>

> PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it 
> sure is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!

I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure is BIG!

Inanely yours,

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 11 19:51:31 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:51:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <006101c6d612$beb62000$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
	<006101c6d612$beb62000$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911223714.03fbe858@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Lew,
         Good GOD damn dog. A 7,000 GVW trailer is a 7,000 GVW trailer! 
What part of 7,000 GVW don't you understand? Please see my first PS on my 
first post.
         Dave
PS, "Engine sure looks heavy!!!!!!!!" I sure thank you for that stupid ass 
inane comment!
PPS, You must be a DEMOCRAT!

At 10:25 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>Is the 7k trailer 7k load or 7k gvw?  Engine sure looks heavy!!!!!!!!
>My 10k gvw weighs bout 2500 so only 7500 for load; if 7k is gvw I sure
>wouldn't wanna try it!
>
>Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>Rotigel
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:01 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
>
>Hi All,
>         I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral
>oil
>engine. It can be seen at:
>http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan
>to
>haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the
>job,
>but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know
>the
>weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
>         Dave
>PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it
>sure
>is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
>PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down
>under
>can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes
>all
>three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!
>
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Sep 11 19:15:54 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:15:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R
Message-ID: <20060911.221707.1220.5.jlb94@juno.com>

Nice job Jerry,

Can't wait to see the rest of the pics.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
 jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/        " A diplomat is someone who can disagree
(_o_)                    without being disagreeable".



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Sep 11 20:17:40 2006
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:17:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg LOST??????????????
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911221614.03f42d78@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000801c6d61a$01a93d00$336d4b47@mikecomp>

Ohhhhhh Noooooo!!!!  My brother lost Reg!  Somehow, just like when we were 
kids, I know I am going to get the blame for this..............


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: [SEL] Reg LOST??????????????


> Hi All,
> Steve Royster just contacted me. His server is down. In any event he was 
> to pick Reg up at the airport tonight. Reg never showed up and upon 
> investigation Steve determined that Reg never got on the airplane. So the 
> BIG question is--WHERE THE HELL IS REG!  If anyone knows please contact 
> Steve at his cell phone at 828.776.4918, or his home phone at 828. 
> 645.5396.
> Dave
> PS, Marg, Don't worry. We will take fine care of this National Treasure 
> from OZ!
> PPS, When someone knows what in the hell has happened to Reg please post 
> it to the List so that we all can go to sleep!
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Sep 11 20:23:11 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:23:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Dave,
	The 11hp portable should weigh in at about 3 to 3.5 Tonne (6600 to
7700 pounds). You may be a little borderline with weight.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

Hi All,
	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil

engine. It can be seen at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to 
haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the job, 
but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know the 
weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
	Dave
PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure 
is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down under 
can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes all 
three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!




From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 12 03:18:42 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:18:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
	<20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>

Thank you Patrick, That's the information that I needed! I guess that Rob 
was right and I was wrong!  Looks as if a 10,000 GVW trailer is the next 
step. Anyone wanting to see this beast running can do so at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/austral-movie.html Rob tells me that 
he starts it by himself.
         Dave

At 11:23 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Dave,
>         The 11hp portable should weigh in at about 3 to 3.5 Tonne (6600 to
>7700 pounds). You may be a little borderline with weight.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>Hi All,
>         I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil
>
>engine. It can be seen at:
>http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to
>haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles. I think my 7,000 will do the job,
>but Rob thinks that I'll need a 10,000 GVW trailer. Thus I need to know the
>weight of this engine. Any help will be appreciated!
>         Dave
>PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure
>is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
>PPS, Help me here Reg and Kerry and Edd. If two of you guys from down under
>can lift it then my 7,000 GVW trailer will be sufficient, If it takes all
>three of you then I'll have to buy a 10,000 GVW trailer!
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 12 03:34:14 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:34:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <f43f9c2d55f03c40a83e4c980c8c064d@chartertn.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
	<f43f9c2d55f03c40a83e4c980c8c064d@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912063331.03f69480@mail.alltel.net>

At 10:43 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
>>PS, Inane comments such as "I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure 
>>is BIG" will be responded to in an appropriate manner!
>I don't know the engine's weight, but it sure is BIG!
>Inanely yours,
>John Culp

Thank you John, I knew that i could rely on you!
         Dave



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep 12 03:59:14 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:59:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20060912105910.LHHB22583.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

One of our club members owns this lovely 10/11hp engine and easily starts it
on his own... and he is in his 70s.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc02/s02austral10hp1.jpg
Ronaldson-Tippett was not shy of putting metal in the Australs. My 3.5hp
portable weighs in at about 1.25 Tonne.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----

Thank you Patrick, That's the information that I needed! I guess that Rob 
was right and I was wrong!  Looks as if a 10,000 GVW trailer is the next 
step. Anyone wanting to see this beast running can do so at: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/austral-movie.html Rob tells me that 
he starts it by himself.
         Dave





From curt at imc-group.com  Tue Sep 12 04:16:36 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:16:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>	<20060912032308.SGGU22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <45069714.3090805@imc-group.com>

Dave,
It sucks when you are wrong. But I have a feel good solution for you. I 
have a 12,000 gvw trailer you can use for the trip. Hell it is enclosed 
and will protect the engine from the elements and will contain anything 
that might happen to fall off on such a long trip. It ought to be 
perfect for the KA to NC haul and as long as you return the trailer 
before Cotton Ginning Days (with the Austral in it of course) I'll be 
happy to lend it to you. Don't both with the pesky details of getting 
the engine from NC to PA. Trivial matters.....all that's important is 
how good that engine will look in MY shed.  :-)
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC
P.S. Congratulations on a very nice engine!

Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Thank you Patrick, That's the information that I needed! I guess that 
> Rob was right and I was wrong!  Looks as if a 10,000 GVW trailer is 
> the next step. Anyone wanting to see this beast running can do so at: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/austral-movie.html Rob tells me 
> that he starts it by himself.
>         Dave
>



From pjp at steamengine.com.au  Tue Sep 12 06:01:23 2006
From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:01:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
In-Reply-To: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <4506AFA3.2030901@steamengine.com.au>

Ed, You can find a similar process where you will see pictures of the sand moulds being made on my site:
http://www.steamengine.com.au/misc/forge/green-sand/index.html

Paul

Ed stoller wrote:
> Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never seen this before and was too busy watching and listening to take pictures. I want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand daughter serving cookies.
> 
> John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.
> 
> Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696     http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 

-- 

pjp at steamengine.com.au
Emerald, Victoria, Australia
www.steamengine.com.au


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 12 06:00:28 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:00:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <20060912105910.LHHB22583.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060912105910.LHHB22583.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609120858090.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>

G'day Patrick,

Dave and I had been discussing Australs over the weekend.  We were
wondering what the large rectangular tank was that hangs down between the
frame rails.  Is that the fuel tank; if what's the capacity?  Or is it a
part of the cooling water system?

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Patrick M Livingstone wrote:

> One of our club members owns this lovely 10/11hp engine and easily starts it
> on his own... and he is in his 70s.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc02/s02austral10hp1.jpg
> Ronaldson-Tippett was not shy of putting metal in the Australs. My 3.5hp
> portable weighs in at about 1.25 Tonne.



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep 12 06:36:58 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:36:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912061202.03f73d68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <C12C060A.2DA1%rskinner@rustyiron.com>


On 9/12/06 3:18 AM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:

> Rob tells me that he starts it by himself.
>          Dave


Believe it or not, a Cajun can start it by himself in the pouring rain.

Rob








From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 12 06:17:25 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:17:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060911204116.03f1c958@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609120915260.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Dave,

Sounds like congratulations are in order?  8-))  You do realize you may
have totally screwed my Olde Engine Fund?  If I enjoy playing with your
Austral, I may be required to get an oil engine of my own!

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> 	I need to know the weight of an 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil
> engine. It can be seen at:
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg I plan to
> haul it from KA to PA--about 2,500 miles.



From Vivas1993 at aol.com  Tue Sep 12 07:09:50 2006
From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:09:50 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
Message-ID: <566.56fe542.323819ae@aol.com>

Hey Arnie,
 That's part of the cooling system. The water pump picks the water up  from 
the tank, pushes it through the engine, it then flows through the upright  
cooling tank behind the engine then back into the tank below the  engine.
Here's some pictures of my 8hp Austral  
_http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/vivas/_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/vivas/) 
 
Wow, there will be at least 3 Australs on the east coast :-)
 
 Dwight Vivas
 Matoaca, VA.



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep 12 07:28:07 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:28:07 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info  Needed
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609120858090.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060912142803.POJM16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Arnie,
	The big tank that hangs below the engine is the water tank. The fuel
tank is between the rails directly under the engine.
The cooling water is circulated by the water pump and is aided in cooling by
passing over slats in the cooling tower. The exhaust passes through the
cooling tower and aids in cooling by forcing a rush of air through the
tower. Makes for a great exhaust note.
The smaller Australs do not have the water pump & cooling tower setup but a
large tank and thermosyphon cooling.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----
G'day Patrick,

Dave and I had been discussing Australs over the weekend.  We were
wondering what the large rectangular tank was that hangs down between the
frame rails.  Is that the fuel tank; if what's the capacity?  Or is it a
part of the cooling water system?

See ya,  Arnie





From edstoller at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 12 07:43:55 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:43:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Casting Demo
References: <000a01c6d36e$e5493000$50b6f504@Ed>
	<4506AFA3.2030901@steamengine.com.au>
Message-ID: <00ba01c6d679$e041bfb0$88f5f504@Ed>

Thank you Paul,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Pavlinovich" <pjp at steamengine.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Casting Demo


> Ed, You can find a similar process where you will see pictures of the sand 
> moulds being made on my site:
> http://www.steamengine.com.au/misc/forge/green-sand/index.html
>
> Paul
>
> Ed stoller wrote:
>> Just prior to the Portland, Ind. Show, the Glassford family hosted a 
>> demonstration of making some castings. I posted some pictures on my site 
>> below. The main part for me was making the molds of sand. I had never 
>> seen this before and was too busy watching and listening to take 
>> pictures. I want to thank the whole family, especially the little grand 
>> daughter serving cookies.
>>
>> John can use old Briggs and I assume Kohler and Tecumseh blocks for the 
>> cast iron. I don't think he would turn down scrap aluminum and brass 
>> either. I want to save mine to take to them next year.
>>
>> Thank you all at Grandpa's Casting Co. 1-888-271-6696 
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id18.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed Stoller
>> New Fairfield, CT
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> -- 
>
> pjp at steamengine.com.au
> Emerald, Victoria, Australia
> www.steamengine.com.au
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 12 07:16:22 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] smee - Reggie's Found
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609121007440.65686@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Mike,  Looks like the tricky Cloistered Oyster will have trouble
blaming THIS one on you.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Rumor is that Reggie is gonna hitch-hike on the next leg of his trip.
8-))

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:32:26 -0400
From: Steve Royster <Steve at bassandroyster.com>
To: STB440 at aol.com
Cc: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: smee

Hi mates. Keith and Connie got me to Springfield Airport at 11:30 am Sunday.
Dropped me off and left. Thats when it all started!!

My bag was too heavy! (Stuff from Keith) so I loaded some into the red
holdall. Checked in bags and sat!!! At 5:30 the plane finally loaded and
took off for Chicago.On arrival, TOTAL chaos! The weather was rain so all
flights were stuffed re times. The flight I was booked on was cancelled.
They re-booked me for the next day after standing in a looong queue for two
hours. Teamed with another traveller and we got rooms at a Motel. Free trip
from airport. Returned to airport and handed new ticket. Ha! The flight is
cancelled!! Got re-booked on another set of flights. Delayed!!! Delayed!!
Cancelled!!! Re-booked yet again on another airline this time. Delayed!!

Finally left Chicago at 7:15 pm.Via Charlotte instead of Cincinnati.
Arrived at Asheville at 12:15 am Tues. Phoned Steve and he came and got me.
I was stuffed! Also, my pills are in my baggage. Baggage? What baggage! Yup,
they are as I write, lost!! Waiting for the airlines to find em. (The
injections came with me as hand luggage. Never had room for the pills as
well. Never expected this)

Its now just after 10 am Tues and I am in Steve's office at work. He is in
a meeting.
So thats why you aint heard from me. I have 'Airport bum' and aint happy
with that part of the trip.

Ok, thats the news so far.  More later.  Reg.


From swebre at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 12 12:15:39 2006
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 19:15:39 +0000
Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <200609121600.k8CG041Q014368@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3840D1D1A4CEAC6AA7E70DB2B0@phx.gbl>


>Believe it or not, a Cajun can start it by himself in the pouring rain.
>
>Rob

Amazing but true.   However, it wasn't raining that hard....at least not by 
Louisiana standards.

-Steve-

PS - It's a beaut!




From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep 12 13:55:15 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:55:15 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
Message-ID: <453.5c95908.323878b3@aol.com>



Dave,

Great looking engine!  Have a safe trip home with it! 

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 12 16:55:45 2006
From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:55:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Hauling from Coolspring to WI
Message-ID: <20060912235545.38788.qmail@web31510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I will be going to Coolspring, PA for their swap meet in October and will
be able to haul items either direction. If you have something that needs a
ride, get in touch with me. I can also stash an item or two in the shed
until next spring, if that helps.
Thanks,
Joe Prindle
Baraboo, WI
off list to:jprindle at centurytel dot net
cell 608-434-3399

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From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 12 18:12:21 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:12:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info
  Needed
In-Reply-To: <453.5c95908.323878b3@aol.com>
References: <453.5c95908.323878b3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060912205206.04363968@mail.alltel.net>


>Dave,
>Great looking engine!  Have a safe trip home with it!
>Tom Schmutz

Hi Tom,
          Looks as if this whole deal is coming together. Jake Faith is 
buying my 15 HP Domestic, My wife is telling me "Go for it' and a friend is 
loaning me his 10,000 GVW trailer for the 5,000+ mile trip to KA to pick 
this heavy bastard up! Additionally, I have a line on a 10,000 GVW trailer 
here in PA for around $3,400.00 and figure that another $500.00 will buy an 
appropriate winch to load the damn thing. Further Rob tells me that any 
damn fool (even a Cajun) can start it--so what the hell, I think I would be 
a damn fool to pass this one up.
         Dave 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Sep 12 19:58:21 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:58:21 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Another R&V
Message-ID: <20060913025816.HMBM16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

As part of my ongoing effort to corner the market on R&Vs in Oz, another has
joined the collection. 
This one has been simmering away for about 3-4 years but finally came my
way. I had to get it shipped down from Nth Queensland as I did not really
feel like a 4000km round trip to pick it up (I am getting wimpy in my old
age).
The engine is a 4hp R Line engine and is in very good and fairly complete
condition. It will make a nice companion to the 4hp L Line engine (which is
getting closer to being restored) and of course all the other R&Vs.
Pics at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rv4hprline.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Wed Sep 13 01:54:47 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:54:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Blackstone big end casting
Message-ID: <20060913085441.XQUL16502.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Jumping from an American engine to an English one. 
Some more progress on my 4hp Blackstone with the casting of the big end
bearing. It came up very well:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06091321.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06091322.JPG
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06091323.JPG
Now it just needs to be machined.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Wed Sep 13 03:44:13 2006
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:44:13 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Hauling from Coolspring to WI
Message-ID: <091320061044.12547.4507E0FC000F243100003103219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Joe,
I could use some assist in getting an engine out to Cool Springs.  It will be 
crated and be going to Nev Beaty in the UK via Lee Pederson.  When is the best 
time of day to give you a phone call?
regards,
Curt Andree


> I will be going to Coolspring, PA for their swap meet in October and will
> be able to haul items either direction. If you have something that needs a
> ride, get in touch with me. I can also stash an item or two in the shed
> until next spring, if that helps.
> Thanks,
> Joe Prindle
> Baraboo, WI
> off list to:jprindle at centurytel dot net
> cell 608-434-3399
> 
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Wed Sep 13 04:13:36 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:13:36 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 12 Famous
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV466360360977BA3A580E1BB280@phx.gbl>

  Howdy all;
Well we found a 12 hp. tank??/screen cooled with sub-base..no truck(s). 
Wondering if anyone out there would please look up and furnish  the weight 
on this puppy.

  I need a bigger trailer <vbg>

Tia,
RickinMt. 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 13 04:48:01 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:48:01 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 11 horsepower lamp start Austral oil engine--Info Needed
Message-ID: <3bf.abef373.323949f1@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/12/2006 9:26:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rotigel at alltel.net writes:

<<  I think I would be 
 a damn fool to pass this one up. >>


We already know that Dave!

Lets see:  I have a line on a 10,000 GVW trailer 
here in PA for around $3,400.00 and figure that another $500.00 for winch, 
title, license, insurance, expense of round trip, cost of engine, cost of gift 
for wife to keep peace, etc.  Sounds like one of those firewood cutting expense 
stories.

Go for it!!

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 13 04:53:43 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:53:43 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 12 Famous
Message-ID: <3a9.833c9d4.32394b47@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/13/2006 7:26:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes:

<< Well we found a 12 hp. tank??/screen cooled with sub-base..no truck(s). 
 Wondering if anyone out there would please look up and furnish  the weight 
 on this puppy. >>

Rick,

Questions like this immediately make me think of John Hammink.  He would have 
a quick answer for you being a walking-talking encyclopedia for International 
Harvester
information.

A great engine you have coming.


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 13 09:38:06 2006
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:38:06 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Air Cooled Olds
Message-ID: <BAY105-F16CB84D60D7DB39767FA58C8280@phx.gbl>

Hi Everyone,

I went and looked at an engine to possibly purchase and when I first saw it 
I said to myself it is an air cooled Ideal. It looked just like the engine 
pictured here:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933509&f=0
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933510&f=0
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933511&f=0
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933512&f=0

The only thing that threw me is there is a small brass tag rivited to the 
crankguard that says Olds with a serial number. Did Olds make an air cooled 
engine that looks just like the Ideal pictured above?

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA




From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 13 10:24:10 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:24:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Air Cooled Olds
References: <BAY105-F16CB84D60D7DB39767FA58C8280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000301c6d759$6e4589b0$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Tonneberger" <flywheelin at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: [SEL] Air Cooled Olds


> Hi Everyone,
> I went and looked at an engine to possibly purchase and when I first saw it 
> I said to myself it is an air cooled Ideal. It looked just like the engine 
> pictured here:
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933509&f=0
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933510&f=0
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933511&f=0
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1701825&a=13403048&p=71933512&f=0
> The only thing that threw me is there is a small brass tag rivited to the 
> crankguard that says Olds with a serial number. Did Olds make an air cooled 
> engine that looks just like the Ideal pictured above?
> Luke Tonneberger
> Rockford, Michigan
> USA

Hi Luke, this is a subject I know a bit about as I tried to buy one for 10 years
only to have the owner sell to someone else when I forget to ask the 10th time.
See page 362 in the Big Yellow Bible  (Vol 1) The first entry does mention R E Olds.
This engine is the successor of the Ideal Engine. BYB pages 238/239.
I hope this helps you.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Wed Sep 13 16:05:58 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:05:58 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>

Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY 
LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.


RickinMt. 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Wed Sep 13 20:38:42 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:38:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> It Lives
Message-ID: <20060914033837.YYHJ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I finally had some time to play with the new 4hp R&V. I could not get any
life out of the low-tension Wizard so I reconnected the slightly wild high
tension modification. I poured some fuel down the throat and the old girl
burst to life, first pull :)
I now have to reconnect and replace the fuel lines and I can give it a good
run.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From rotigel at alltel.net  Wed Sep 13 18:34:02 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:34:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060913213114.046db0a0@mail.alltel.net>

At 07:05 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:
>Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY
>LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.
>RickinMt.

Hi Rick, Rick Rowlands can be contacted at: "Rick Rowlands" 
<jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
         Dave 



From wackyvorlon at gmail.com  Wed Sep 13 23:19:03 2006
From: wackyvorlon at gmail.com (Paul Anderson)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:19:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9e7fa74a0609132319t3d3396f1gcebf9717a246bedd@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/13/06, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
> Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY
> LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.
>
>
Shoot, ain't nothing like a clothesline on the front lawn....


-- 
Paul Anderson
VE3HOP
wackyvorlon at gmail.com
"I'll bet my drunken cat on that!"


From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Thu Sep 14 04:12:02 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:12:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry
References: <BAY109-DAV7436EEB4F6C2EF05445A6BB280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005001c6d7ee$9b28abc0$05e14044@pengy>

Rick,

Sorry for not returning the casting sooner.  It will be going out next time 
I am in Sharon, probably tommorrow or Saturday.  I'll include the pattern 
letters that I bought for the patent date.


Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "sel" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: [SEL] Dirty Laundry


> Apoligize to the rest of the list...ROWLANDS..LETS TAKE CARE OF SOME DIRTY 
> LAUNDRY..8 MONTHS AND NOTHING ON A "BORROWED" MIXER.
>
>
> RickinMt.
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From oldironnut at alltel.net  Thu Sep 14 05:28:24 2006
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:28:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] OT:  Attention Roger Seefeldt
In-Reply-To: <20060914033837.YYHJ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060914033837.YYHJ11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <p06230900c12efac6b56f@[172.21.24.99]>

Sorry for the OT message but I don't know Roger's email address. 
Roger,  Lincoln put your pen and pencil in US Priority Mail today so 
you should see it early next week.

Take care,
Mike
-- 
_____________________
Mike Tucker
Midway, Kentucky, USA
_____________________


From old_iron at msn.com  Thu Sep 14 10:45:43 2006
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:45:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> RE: Baraboo - CD Lable Burning
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609061408520.93340@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F28278699A28370B8BB2D66E7290@phx.gbl>

I use a new process called Light Scribe that came with my new HP PC back in 
November.  I used this on the CD I did for Reggie, and he thought it was 
really nice.  The really great part is that there is no PAPER LABEL.  You 
need the Light Scribe hard ware to use it, but it comes with the software, 
if you want to add one of these to your existing PC the cost is about $50 
from Best Buy.  You can save this amount very quickly in the cost of labels 
and ink.  The special CD's and DVD's are not any more expensive than the 
plan ones you have to put labels on.

Bill loves this process, since he has a CD player in his truck that does not 
have a tray, because he no longer has to worry about the label coming off of 
his compilations I make for him from CD's we get at Tower records.  I like 
to make a copy and then put the original CD away, I never sell them or give 
them away so I am not breaking any copy write laws.

If you are really interested in more information here is the website
http://www.lightscribe.com/

Lost my job today, so if any one knows of a postion cleaning toilets or 
anything else, please contact me off list.

XOXOX
Peg Pfeiffer

>From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>To: old_iron at msn.com
>Subject: Baraboo - CD Lable Burning
>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:11:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Hi Peg,
>
>At Baraboo you were talking about some slick software that would burn
>labels onto special "clean back" CDs.
>
>Any chance you could could pass that info along to me (or to the entire
>list)?  It sounds pretty useful.
>
>See ya,  Arnie




From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Fri Sep 15 11:27:53 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:27:53 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Third Southwest Regional Hot Air Engine Meet
Message-ID: <C1303EB9.2EF3%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

G?day folks,
I?m sending you this email because of your interest in hot air engines.

In 2001, Lowell Wagner and Buster Brown hosted the First Southwest Regional
Hot Air Engine Meet in conjunction with the Arizona Flywheelers? show in
Cottonwood, Arizona.  It was a magnificent success, with participants from
around the globe.  They repeated their act in 2005, again assembling a
stunning collection of hot air engines and enthusiasts.

The next meet will be held at a new venue.  It will be held in Tulare,
California, in conjunction with the California Antique Farm Equipment Show.
The event will be April 21-22, 2007.  We think this next show will be bigger
and better than ever, and hope that you will be able to join us.

For the latest information, you can visit our web page at
http://www.rustyiron.com/hotairshow

Mark your calendars now.
Rob

  








From curt at imc-group.com  Mon Sep 18 09:35:16 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:35:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
Message-ID: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>

On occation we all have those weekends where everything falls in place 
and we get done what we wanted to.
Saturday morning I was up at the crack of dawn and bush hogging into the 
woods behind our 2 lots and 1 neighbor down from us and 3 above us. 
Looks good!
This was also the annual weekend to do the mow, thatch, aerate, seed, 
fertilize, and hay routine. Got that done too. Had help this year as 
Devin was ready to work on his project!
He was ready to put up his blacksmith roof. We spent about an hour 
Saturday evening getting the poles up and level, and then about 3 hours 
Sunday afternoon, putting the building up. We ran out of daylight, so a 
little of it will have to be finished this afternoon.
Here is the link to Devin's blacksmith page. Go down just a little to 
the 9/18/06 update:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.html>

Hope you enjoy.....
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep 18 09:56:36 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:56:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
References: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609181252560.4821@vegeta.city-net.com>

Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
the Holland engine that you'd acquired.  You did see the GEM cover, right?

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Smithing shed is looking good!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Curt wrote:

> On occation we all have those weekends where everything falls in place
> and we get done what we wanted to.
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.html>



From wmlyoung at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 18 12:01:06 2006
From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609181252560.4821@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20060918190106.49179.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your voice again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me in Japan?  Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.  Bill Young
   wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp

Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
  Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
the Holland engine that you'd acquired. You did see the GEM cover, right?




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 12:37:36 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:37:36 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Jumbled viewing/downloads from Oldengine.org
Message-ID: <6f6025160609181237y6a3ef5e1y54af8023d58bbf8c@mail.gmail.com>

A number of occurences have been reported to me of incorrect downloads
or page views from people with websites on Oldengine.org. I have also
had this happen to my own pages when checking new material that has
been uploaded.

It seems that at peak times in the US there is a problem with the
system handling the files, and it gets itself 'confused'. Normally it
can be cleared by reloading the page using the 'Reload' button on your
browser. I have had a variety of wrong pictures show up, some nice,
some wierd :-))

I would like to know if this is confined to just a few users or if it
is a more widespread problem, so we can go back to Jim and see if he
can sort it out with the engineering folks who look after the
hardware.

Replies off-list please, either to listerdiesel at gmail.com or to
diesel at easynet.co.uk

Thanks,

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon Sep 18 13:07:48 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:07:48 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California show.
Message-ID: <20060918.130749.1888.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi all.
This past Sunday my local club W.A.P.A. (Western Antique Power
Associates) Was invited to participate in a fund raiser for the Rose
Parade float, by the city of South Pasadena.  The main event was a car
show with 300 to 400 fantastic cars.  We were located right on the street
in the middle of all the action.  The crowd was huge with lots of people
asking good questions about our engines.  Weather was perfect, so it was
a wonderful day.  A few pictures at:

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=3009370&a=32304088&f=0

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep 18 13:06:52 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:06:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <20060918190106.49179.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060918190106.49179.qmail@web30314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609181600030.4821@vegeta.city-net.com>

Konichiwa Young-san,

The last couple of trips to Korea had very tight schedules leaving no time
for a stopover in Tokyo.  In the next couple of years I'm hoping that
we'll be having technical exchange meetings that will have less schedule
pressure.

Have you had your 22-1/2 hp Bessemer running in Japan?  How has that been
received?

Sayonara,  Arnie

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, William Young wrote:

> Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your
> voice again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me
> in Japan?  Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.
> Bill Young
> wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp


From oiseming at moscow.com  Mon Sep 18 14:21:41 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:21:41 -0700
Subject: [SEL] RE: Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <200609182122.k8ILLrJt050355@mail-gw.fsr.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
[mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Curt
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:35 AM
To: SEL; SEL (Oldengine.org)
Subject: Good weekend!

Snip

Here is the link to Devin's blacksmith page. Go down just a little to 
the 9/18/06 update:
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.
html>

Hope you enjoy.....
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

~~~~~~~~

Indeed, I enjoyed, Curt.  Thank you for posting the link.  

Devin will have a first-class blacksmith shop, thanks to his devoted dad.

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   






From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Sep 18 15:08:43 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:08:43 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
Message-ID: <37d.b1bf72b.324072eb@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/18/2006 12:56:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
curt at imc-group.com writes:

<< Devin was ready to work on his project!
 He was ready to put up his blacksmith roof.  >>


Curt,

Show Devin the photo of my anvils.  The last on left is called a cone anvil 
used to make rings of various sizes, like those on wagon wheels for example.  I 
need an anvil roof too!

http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/mvc-007s.jpg

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 18 15:52:37 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:52:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
References: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185018.02d0b750@mail.alltel.net>

Looks GREAT Devin! Once the ridge cap is on you can set up your shop! Can 
you bring your forge and tools to Cotton Ginning? I'd like to see you 
turning steel into "things!"
         Dave

At 12:35 PM 9/18/2006, you wrote:
>On occation we all have those weekends where everything falls in place and 
>we get done what we wanted to.
>Saturday morning I was up at the crack of dawn and bush hogging into the 
>woods behind our 2 lots and 1 neighbor down from us and 3 above us. Looks good!
>This was also the annual weekend to do the mow, thatch, aerate, seed, 
>fertilize, and hay routine. Got that done too. Had help this year as Devin 
>was ready to work on his project!
>He was ready to put up his blacksmith roof. We spent about an hour 
>Saturday evening getting the poles up and level, and then about 3 hours 
>Sunday afternoon, putting the building up. We ran out of daylight, so a 
>little of it will have to be finished this afternoon.
>Here is the link to Devin's blacksmith page. Go down just a little to the 
>9/18/06 update:
><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbnails.html>
>
>Hope you enjoy.....
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC



From rotigel at alltel.net  Mon Sep 18 16:27:02 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:27:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Well Jake came today to pick up my 15 HP Domestic (See: 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/15%20HP%20Domestic/15hpdomestic.html) 
and pay me for it. It was tough watching it go up the drive, but I know 
it's got a good home and now I have ALMOST enough money in my pocket to buy 
the 11 HP Austral from Rob and Kelley! See: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/index.html (Given the OUTRAGEOUS price 
Rob is getting for the engine I sure hope that [at least] he is taking 
Kelley to a nice bed and breakfast several times--but I digress!)
	On Wed. morning (the 20th) I'll pull out at sparrow's fart (or before) and 
head for Philadelphia TN where I'll pick up a 10,000 GVW trailer (like this 
one--see: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300026734712&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 
) That's a 526 mile trip. After picking up the trailer I'll head west on RT 
40 for about 2,038 miles and then merge onto CA 60. At that point I'll be 
about an hour from Kelley and Rob's place. I plan to get to their place by 
10:00 (or so) on Sunday! Reg will be there, and that's good because Rob 
tells me that we will need strong backs and weak minds for loading the 
Austral on my trailer! In all the trip out will be 2,699 miles.
	I'll leave Rob and Kelley on Monday with the Austral in tow and arrive 
back in Greensburg on Thurs, the 28th. The trip home will be a lot easier, 
for it's only 2,444 miles! Wish me luck. I'm hoping to keep the dirty side 
of my truck down the whole way. If I don't make it back alive and you are 
interested in any of my engines (see: 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) please contact Arnie. 
He will be handling the sale for my wife!
	Dave



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Mon Sep 18 18:05:34 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:05:34 -0700
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <C134906E.305D%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

If I don't make it back alive and you are
interested please contact Arnie.
He will be handling the sale of my wife!
>  
> 
> Arnie, 
> In the event that Dave?s demise is AFTER he picks up the Austral (and forks
> over a tall stack of Benjamins), I?ll be in a strong cash position and very
> interested in attending the auction.

     
 
     Rob Skinner  
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?   562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com   ?   http://www.rustyiron.com









From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep 18 18:42:12 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:42:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <450F4AF4.8010607@scrtc.com>

Dave,
    Should I go on and put in a bid with Arnie now for the 20 HP Famous 
"just in case"?  I would hate for a grieving friend to have to deal with 
this sort of thing.  I'll just go on and drop a $500 check in the mail 
to Arnie as payment for it.  BTW, if you are taking the KY route to get 
your trailer, we might arrange for one of our local "Smoky's" to put you 
up for a while in one of our local county run "hotels".  I'm sure a 20 
HP Famous would be sufficient bond....... maybe enough to pay the fine 
too!  Be careful and have a safe and enjoyable trip. 

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



>  If I don't make it back alive and you are interested in any of my 
> engines (see: http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) 
> please contact Arnie. He will be handling the sale for my wife!
>     Dave
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 23:36:49 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:36:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609182336n74f9dd00ra5f569fbfb289c1a@mail.gmail.com>

Take care, have a safe trip!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Tue Sep 19 05:47:48 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:47:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List! 
Message-ID: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>

Ten years ago several members of this Stationary Engine List met in Youngstown, Ohio to undertake the removal of a large stationary steam engine.  Dave Rotigel, Arnie Fero, Matt Picaro, Craig Prucha, Bill Pfeiffer, DJ Rotigel, Rick Monk and myself made up what we have called the "Wrecking Crew".

The engine that we successfully removed has sat in pieces until yesterday when 250 tons of 93 year old iron was put back together in her new home.  

http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG

More Photos here:

http://community.webshots.com/album/554214728mqgcLZ

The engine is a 34" x 68" x 60" cross compound rolling mill engine of 4,000 HP.  The crankshaft hasn't been set into the bearings yet and the flywheel also is not together yet. 

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Foundation


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 19 05:49:37 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:49:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Good weekend!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185018.02d0b750@mail.alltel.net>
References: <450ECAC4.8030104@imc-group.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060918185018.02d0b750@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190848040.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey Dave & Devin,

THAT is a great idea!!  Smiths always attract spectators, but a young man
making the anvil ring will be a super draw.

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Looks GREAT Devin! Once the ridge cap is on you can set up your shop! Can
> you bring your forge and tools to Cotton Ginning? I'd like to see you
> turning steel into "things!"



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 19 06:03:43 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:03:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190859030.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Dave,

OK, if you turn room temperature, I'll handle things on this end.
I can certainly work up good descriptions of the engines.  However I think
I'll need to spend the weekend at your place to "experience" Jennie so
that I can work up an accurate description for the sale bill.  8->>

Safe journey!!  Keep all the wheels on!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> If I don't make it back alive and you are
> interested in any of my engines (see:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) please contact Arnie.
> He will be handling the sale of my wife!


From edurand at iglou.com  Tue Sep 19 07:45:08 2006
From: edurand at iglou.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:45:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEMFELAA.edurand@iglou.com>

Dave:

AND she'll probably be dancing with glee at being able to get rid of all that "junk".      :-)

Take care - Elden
http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Dave
> Rotigel
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 06:27 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] The Plan
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 	Well Jake came today to pick up my 15 HP 
> Domestic ............
>
>................Wish me luck. I'm hoping to keep the dirty side 
>of my truck down the whole way. If I don't make it back alive and you are 
>interested in any of my engines.    please contact Arnie. 
>He will be handling the sale for my wife!
>	Dave




From FRM8198 at aol.com  Tue Sep 19 06:38:23 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:38:23 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Jacobs Chuck Repair Data (OT)
Message-ID: <386.c0854b9.32414ccf@aol.com>

Hi List,
As a result of a Jacobs chuck malfunction, I had to disassemble one  in order 
to repair it.  I found the following site which helped teach me  how to take 
the chuck apart and most important - how to put it back  together.
 
_    http://www.jacobschuck.com/support.asp_ 
(http://www.jacobschuck.com/support.asp)  
 
After cleaning the Jacobs chuck internal parts, lubricating  the jaws and 
split ring, and reassembling unit, it works very smooth.  The  hard part was that 
it had to repaired without removing the chuck from the drill  motor.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria, Ca




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep 19 07:12:28 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:12:28 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609190712i609aa67ai5243d1eb7e8acc32@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/09/06, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>
> Rick Rowlands
> Tod Engine Foundation

Rick:

I'm getting "Page Cannot Be Found" on the first url, second set look OK.

Well done!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Sep 19 08:12:16 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:12:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Border Bob Update
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609182336n74f9dd00ra5f569fbfb289c1a@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
	<6f6025160609182336n74f9dd00ra5f569fbfb289c1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060919105805.02f32390@pop3.wcoil.com>


Hi All, See the latest from Sheila below! The best time to call and visit 
with Bob is between 4:30 -8:30 PM Theres is no rehab work done during this 
time. Bob has some holes in his memory and short term mem is still sketchy. 
He may know you when you call he may not.  He had been recalling events 
that never happened like visits to Australia and people that Bob said 
visited that never did or remembered people who didn't actually visit that 
did. But it is getting better.
Visits in person have to work around the rehab schedule.
  If you get a chance call.                  THANK YOU,  Mark

>Bob is in Parkwood Phone # is 519-685-4292 ext 43388 visiting hrs are 11-830.
>  I am getting to take him home for the weekend next week.
>   Sheila




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep 19 11:42:55 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:42:55 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <200609191600.k8JG05k1011347@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060919204044.00ab2e78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
>From: William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Good weekend!
>
>Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your voice 
>again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me in 
>Japan?  Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.  Bill Young
>    wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp
>
>Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>   Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
>the Holland engine that you'd acquired. You did see the GEM cover, right?


Hello Oom Bill-san
         Good to see you on the list - I trust you are well. Have not heard 
from you for quite a while.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

---
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 12:16:22 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:16:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060919204044.00ab2e78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00a401c6dc20$18411360$240110ac@FAMILY>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 15


> Message: 3
>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
>>From: William Young <wmlyoung at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Good weekend!
>>
>>Arnie-san,  Rob just helped me get on your net.  Good to hear your voice 
>>again.  Whatever happened to that visit you were going to pay me in Japan? 
>>Will leave USA Wed. for return home.  Keep in touch.  Bill Young
>>    wmyoung at juno.ocn.ne.jp
>>
>>Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>>   Damn Curt, I read the Subject and figgered you were gonna tell us about
>>the Holland engine that you'd acquired. You did see the GEM cover, right?
>
>
> Hello Oom Bill-san
>         Good to see you on the list - I trust you are well. Have not heard 
> from you for quite a while.
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Tel. (016) 365-5787
> Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
> www.oldengine.org/members/evans
> ---
> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 11:54:21 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:54:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <008f01c6dc1d$052f3520$240110ac@FAMILY>

Dave take a lot of pictures of the trip out, the loading, and the return 
trip and then share them with all of us less fortunate ones when you return. 
Have a safe and enjoyable trip Dave, we will anxiously await your return.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: [SEL] The Plan


> Hi All,
> Well Jake came today to pick up my 15 HP Domestic (See: 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/15%20HP%20Domestic/15hpdomestic.html) 
> and pay me for it. It was tough watching it go up the drive, but I know 
> it's got a good home and now I have ALMOST enough money in my pocket to 
> buy the 11 HP Austral from Rob and Kelley! See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/index.html (Given the OUTRAGEOUS 
> price 




From edstoller at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 19 14:49:16 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:49:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL]Another Connecticut Show
References: <c3c.2602eba.32369e8c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c6dc35$751c6390$61b6f504@Ed>

Thanks Mike,

We enjoyed the show and you were busy making it happen. Parking was free and 
so was the entrance, so I joined  to support the club and got on the mailing 
list.

I picked up a flier for the Zagray Homestead, Colchester CT show and auction 
coming up on Oct 7 and 8. This is the Quinebaug Valley Engineers Assn. Fall 
show. They did not include an email address or website on the flier. My old 
link to them does not work, so I was out of touch with them. I hope to go 
there also on Saturday.

Our club show is this coming weekend in Kent, CT.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ELIDAS at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL]Another Connecticut Show


> Tobacco Valley Flywheelers show is this weekend. Rte 154 Haddam Meadows
> State Park.
> We have lottsa room so don't be afraid to bring a lot or anything  big.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 12:04:03 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:04:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
Message-ID: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>

Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 19 14:59:02 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:59:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609191756430.43461@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Paul,

Lemmie guess...  Wet road, too fast, lost control, rollover through the
weeds?  Am I close?  Looks like the kid was lucky.

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Guess #2.  They totaled your truck?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Paul Maples wrote:

> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
> pain other than this they walked away from it.



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 15:37:17 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:37:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
Message-ID: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Maples 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul





From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep 19 16:00:42 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:00:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <C135C4AA.30D5%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

On 9/19/06 12:04 PM, "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived
> with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.
> 
        Yikes.  I?ll bet there?s a physics lesson in there somewhere.

     
 
     Rob Skinner  
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?   562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com   ?   http://www.rustyiron.com






From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Sep 19 16:08:26 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:08:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060919190750.0305a0f0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Just curious as to what their excuse was for the wreck?    Mark

At 03:04 PM 9/19/06, you wrote:
>Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the 
>old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday 
>evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could 
>spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned 
>from a previous engine trip:
>
>http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
>
>
>Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: 
>Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button
>
>
>http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>
>He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain 
>other than this they walked away from it.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
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>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

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Parts lists available on request.

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Saturday 9 AM to 10 PM at cell #419.516.2996 If you have Verizon Cell Phone 
you may call the cell number during the weekday hours. No Sunday calls if 
possible.
I am not an employee or licensed dealer for Maytag Corp. Nor do I represent 
them in any way shape or form. I am only a Collector, Preservationist and 
hobby dealer of Maytag manufactured items of old.   Mark




From clemsweller at etczone.com  Tue Sep 19 16:33:56 2006
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:33:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000c01c6dc44$136e4b40$fc19b840@chuckvmzoexd2q>

Looks like a lucky young man

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Maples
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:37 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Maples 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul
the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last
Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so
he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just
returned from a previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13,
2006: 

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul



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SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 19 17:02:04 2006
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <20060920000204.49185.qmail@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Come on now, Paul.
   
  I have seen pictures of those fine toys you have made,,,,
  You can fix that truck.  Think of it as one little project at a time.
   
  OR

  Since the rear axle is loose,,,,,
  This would be a great time to build a Papercrete mixer.  8>))
  http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/papercrete.htm
   
  Looks to me like it was a good thing that you loaned your truck instead of a smaller car.
  Also looks like your grandson needs a couple driving lessons.  The wheels need to stay down at all times, even while the truck is flying.
   
  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan
  U.S. of A.
   
  
Paul Maples <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:


  http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
  


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
  

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.

Paul

 			
---------------------------------
Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.


From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 19 17:48:03 2006
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:48:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
Message-ID: <410-2200693200483875@earthlink.net>

Arnie, don't you have to be traveling with Dave in order for something to
go wrong?

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas


> [Original Message]
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: 9/19/2006 8:58:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] The Plan
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> OK, if you turn room temperature, I'll handle things on this end.
> I can certainly work up good descriptions of the engines.  However I think
> I'll need to spend the weekend at your place to "experience" Jennie so
> that I can work up an accurate description for the sale bill.  8->>
>
> Safe journey!!  Keep all the wheels on!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>
> > If I don't make it back alive and you are
> > interested in any of my engines (see:
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/Roti_Eng/ ) please contact
Arnie.
> > He will be handling the sale of my wife!
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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From driggars at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 19 18:21:48 2006
From: driggars at earthlink.net (Clint D)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:21:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <451097AC.3080604@earthlink.net>

Paul

glad to hear all was OK as far as injuries. Now, what did they run into? 
or what hit them?

Clint


Paul Maples wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Paul Maples 
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:04 PM
> Subject: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
>
>
> Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a previous engine trip:
>
> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
>
>
> Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006: 
>
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain other than this they walked away from it.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>   


From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Tue Sep 19 18:45:24 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:45:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
Message-ID: <00a401c6dc56$71b12210$fcf34c0c@D48VHZ61>

Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the Fairbanks 
mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State 
conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax, 
Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody ever 
run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured 
appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.

John 




From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Tue Sep 19 18:51:28 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:51:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
	<6f6025160609190712i609aa67ai5243d1eb7e8acc32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b501c6dc57$49b8c870$05e14044@pengy>

It should be:
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/todengine.JPG

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!


> On 19/09/06, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>>
>> Rick Rowlands
>> Tod Engine Foundation
> 
> Rick:
> 
> I'm getting "Page Cannot Be Found" on the first url, second set look OK.
> 
> Well done!
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 19 19:20:48 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:20:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <a4ea6ebb13d27f8b4b6e2f6b03bcc30c@chartertn.net>

> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back 
> pain other than this they walked away from it.

Thank Heaven!

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 19 19:23:25 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:23:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Plan
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190859030.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060918185549.02d9ee58@mail.alltel.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609190859030.29211@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <36d6147b4b8be8a7ea3121c5e015bd1e@chartertn.net>

> OK, if you turn room temperature, I'll handle things on this end.
> I can certainly work up good descriptions of the engines.  However I 
> think
> I'll need to spend the weekend at your place to "experience" Jennie so
> that I can work up an accurate description for the sale bill.  8->>

Arnie, do you mean you'll be auctioning Jennie when Dave assumes room 
temperature?

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From gnarmstrong at netnitco.net  Tue Sep 19 19:27:31 2006
From: gnarmstrong at netnitco.net (George & Norma Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:27:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
Message-ID: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer>

John,
    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on the
Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling the
system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge.    George
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition


>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the Fairbanks
>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody ever
>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>
>John
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Tue Sep 19 20:00:48 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:00:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer>
Message-ID: <003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>

Was what he was selling modern? I would say my info from Fairbanks is at 
least 30 years old---I'll try to look again tomorrow and see if I can find a 
date on the literature.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George & Norma Armstrong" <gnarmstrong at netnitco.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition


> John,
>    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on 
> the
> Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling the
> system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge.    George
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
> Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
>
>
>>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the Fairbanks
>>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody ever
>>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>>
>>John
>>




From FRM8198 at aol.com  Tue Sep 19 20:07:28 2006
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:07:28 EDT
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
Message-ID: <2fa.2e40da80.32420a70@aol.com>

John,
List member, Elden DuRand, at one time was building solid  state retrofit 
ignition systems.  I believe he donated one of his system to  the Charity 
Auction.  Perhaps, Elden may be able to help by providing an  electrical schematic.  

Francis  Maciel
Santa Maria, Ca




From oiseming at moscow.com  Tue Sep 19 22:35:09 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:35:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <200609200535.k8K5ZUb7082042@mail-gw.fsr.net>

Paul, you must have mixed emotions, right now.  On one hand, you are glad
your grandson escaped serious injury; but, on the other hand you'd probably
like to strangle him for destroying your beautiful truck.  

I hope things work out well in the long haul.

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:04 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck

Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the
old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday
evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could spend
the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a
previous engine trip:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg


Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006:
Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa

He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain
other than this they walked away from it.

Paul






From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 18:36:17 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:36:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <00ca01c6dc3c$2b2fcfe0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<451097AC.3080604@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <012701c6dc55$2b1f72d0$240110ac@FAMILY>

They ran off the road through a ditch, hit a culvert and went airborne.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clint D" <driggars at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Fw: Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Paul
> 
> glad to hear all was OK as far as injuries. Now, what did they run into? 
> or what hit them?
> 
> Clint
>



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 16:54:01 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:54:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609191756430.43461@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00e901c6dc46$e2b6cc90$240110ac@FAMILY>

The story according to two witnesses who followed them for five miles before 
the accident happened was that the passenger was reaching over and grabbing 
the steering wheel out of my grandson's hands. The witness said they had 
already went off the road once and she had told her husband that if these 
kids did not stop that playing around they were going to kill someone. She 
said that about that time she saw the passenger reach up again and grab the 
steering wheel and yank on it which sent the truck careening off of the road 
into a ditch and then they hit a culvert, went airborne, according to the 
witness about 50' in the air and the truck went end over end and landed 
upside down.

I talked to the state trooper at the scene and he said he could smell 
alcohol so they gave my grandson a breathalyzer test on the spot and it came 
up zero but the passenger, whom my grandson had just picked up was reeking 
of alcohol. I understand that the passenger got a public drunkenness ticket. 
My grandson got a ticket for no seat belts and Careless and Prohibitive 
Driving.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Hi Paul,
>
> Lemmie guess...  Wet road, too fast, lost control, rollover through the
> weeds?  Am I close?  Looks like the kid was lucky.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - Guess #2.  They totaled your truck?
>
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Paul Maples wrote:
>
>> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
>> pain other than this they walked away from it.
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 16:56:52 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:56:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609191756430.43461@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c6dc47$4829b740$240110ac@FAMILY>

Yep, Arnie they totaled the truck and only gave me $4000.00 for it which 
will never replace it. It was 16-1/2 years old and had 262,000 miles on it 
but I kept it well maintained and it looked new and ran like new.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Hi Paul,
>
> Lemmie guess...  Wet road, too fast, lost control, rollover through the
> weeds?  Am I close?  Looks like the kid was lucky.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - Guess #2.  They totaled your truck?
>
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Paul Maples wrote:
>
>> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back
>> pain other than this they walked away from it.
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 19 17:36:39 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:36:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <20060920000204.49185.qmail@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <011401c6dc4c$d66eab00$240110ac@FAMILY>

Hey Alan thanks for the website, I found it very interesting. Now if the old 
truck was made of wood I would gladly jump on it and resurrect it from the 
dead but not excelling in metal work I will have to let the old gal rest in 
peace as she had breathe her last.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Bowen" <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> Come on now, Paul.
>
>  I have seen pictures of those fine toys you have made,,,,
>  You can fix that truck.  Think of it as one little project at a time.
>
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rotigel at alltel.net  Tue Sep 19 18:59:54 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:59:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List! 
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060919211658.02ee0cd0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Rick,
         I will remember, to my dying day when we first met in Youngstown 
and saw the Tod. My reaction was, I'm sure, the same as the 16 year old 
girl on her wedding night in the year that the Tod was built--DAMN THAT 
THING SURE IS HUGE! The Tod was a good 200 yards away when we first saw it, 
and we all stopped dead in our tracks and just looked at her! What a sight! 
And what a crew we made! Can anyone else remember the day that it was -10 F 
in the building and we (dumb asses that we were) still tried to remove nuts 
and bolts? It was 5 minutes of work and 20 minutes in front of the kero 
torpedo space heater! One inch frost on the flywheel, and when you scraped 
that off it would reappear in about 15 minutes and you could not tell where 
it had been removed!
         I also remember you, Rick, hanging on the end of a 4' chain wrench 
(about 9' in the air) with an 11' cheater pipe attached to it--and the damn 
chain broke! That was in an attempt to remove the last 5" nut holding the 
flywheel together. It was only "the luck of the Irish" that caused you to 
miss stratteling that 4'X8' piece of upright 1/4" steel guard at the end of 
the flywheel! (Have you ever told your bride how close you came to becoming 
a soprano  that day?)
         Then there was the day we attempted to remove the last 11" nut 
from the con rod cap. Used the 10 ton Pettibone crane so we did--and broke 
the dam 3' wrench in the process! Your friend (damn, I can't remember his 
name) cut us a new 11" hex nut wrench out of 1" steel plate  (actually two 
1/2" pieces of steel plate welded together) that night and the next morning 
the Pettibone  loosened the nut with only a slight "tink." After that I 
removed the nut BY HAND--although I needed Arnie's help to carry the damn 
thing over to the nut pile after I had it off.
         And the stories I could relate about the comradery that developed 
as the project continued. Only one other time in my life can I recall such 
comradery! I thank you Rick for allowing me to be a small part of the TOD 
Project! I'll take my memories of that experience with me to my grave!
         Dave
PS, Thinking about my grave, when the hell do you think the Tod will be all 
back together and running on her own steam (or should I say "air?") I 
figure that I only have another 10 years, or so, so how about getting on 
the stick and making it happen before that?

At 08:47 AM 9/19/2006, you wrote:
>Ten years ago several members of this Stationary Engine List met in 
>Youngstown, Ohio to undertake the removal of a large stationary steam 
>engine.  Dave Rotigel, Arnie Fero, Matt Picaro, Craig Prucha, Bill 
>Pfeiffer, DJ Rotigel, Rick Monk and myself made up what we have called the 
>"Wrecking Crew".
>
>The engine that we successfully removed has sat in pieces until yesterday 
>when 250 tons of 93 year old iron was put back together in her new home.
>
>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>
>More Photos here:
>
>http://community.webshots.com/album/554214728mqgcLZ
>
>The engine is a 34" x 68" x 60" cross compound rolling mill engine of 
>4,000 HP.  The crankshaft hasn't been set into the bearings yet and the 
>flywheel also is not together yet.
>
>Rick Rowlands
>Tod Engine Foundation



From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep 20 05:09:24 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
In-Reply-To: <200609200535.k8K5ZUb7082042@mail-gw.fsr.net>
References: <009b01c6dc1e$60580a70$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<200609200535.k8K5ZUb7082042@mail-gw.fsr.net>
Message-ID: <1202.165.206.180.140.1158754164.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

No kidding - ditto. And from the looks, be glad it was a truck and not a
yugo they crashed in. Or it would be a funeral for not just the truck.....
Still - after that long you get to know a truck quite well and to lose it...

Bill

> Paul, you must have mixed emotions, right now.  On one hand, you are glad
> your grandson escaped serious injury; but, on the other hand you'd
> probably
> like to strangle him for destroying your beautiful truck.
>
> I hope things work out well in the long haul.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Orrin
>
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:04 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
>
> Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the
> old iron around is "no more". My grandson ask to borrow it last Wednesday
> evening to go out to his grandmother's to get some clothes so he could
> spend
> the night here. Here is a before picture when I had just returned from a
> previous engine trip:
>
> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/wheelterrapin/TruckPicture.jpg
>
>
> Here is the after pictures as of last Wednesday night, September 13, 2006:
> Click on this symbol to start the slide show and then hit the start button
>
>
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/554121770/2192077580049103604kFKmAa
>
> He survived with a concussion, the passenger survived with some back pain
> other than this they walked away from it.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 20 05:30:51 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:30:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer>
	<003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>

I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built a 
Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said and done 
and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air cooled engine, 
the least expensive way is to convert it to an automotive transistor type. 
The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to $20 at most auto parts stores. One 
needs a conventional coil with a built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or 
aftermarket) or a ballast resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger 
coils, but the instructions for making them are on my web site 
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/  .

A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model of a 
1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as small as 
possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw with the magnet 
on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. Ron is still working 
on this and has not got to the point of stack music yet. I hope he could 
bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery has two combustion chambers, so we 
are using a coil from a 1996 Bonneville to fire both plugs at the same time. 
Ron's engine has the trigger mounted on a lever to control the spark 
advance.

If I ever get my STOVER CT_2 together, I will probably use some thing like 
to above until I get a Wyco EK.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition


> Was what he was selling modern? I would say my info from Fairbanks is at 
> least 30 years old---I'll try to look again tomorrow and see if I can find 
> a date on the literature.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George & Norma Armstrong" <gnarmstrong at netnitco.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition
>
>
>> John,
>>    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on 
>> the
>> Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling the
>> system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge.    George
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
>>
>>
>>>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the 
>>>Fairbanks
>>>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>>>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>>>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody 
>>>ever
>>>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>>>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>
>
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From mullt at att.net  Wed Sep 20 06:13:35 2006
From: mullt at att.net (mullt at att.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:13:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Checking a Magneto
Message-ID: <092020061313.18569.45113E7F0009DE140000488921603762239B04049A03@att.net>

I am fairly new to old engines and I am starting to look at buying my
first mit & miss engine.

Some of the engines I have looked at look to be okay, they are loose
and turn okay. Many times though, they are not running and have not
run for a while. The owners always say they are okay but there is no
way to tell that for sure.

I understand that replacing a magneto can be expensive, sometimes more
than the engine itself. My question is, how can you check a mag on an
engine that is not running to see if it is okay. Can you hook a test
spark plug up, crank the engine and expect to see a spark? Are there
other ways to quickly check a mag to see if it is okay?

How about engines with ignitors. How can you check them?

Thanks for any input.

Tom in St. Louis


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 20 06:48:45 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:48:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer><003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>

Updated link, scroll down to TASK 5 and look just above it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition


>I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built a 
>Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said and done 
>and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air cooled engine, 
>the least expensive way is to convert it to an automotive transistor type. 
>The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to $20 at most auto parts stores. One 
>needs a conventional coil with a built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or 
>aftermarket) or a ballast resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger 
>coils, but the instructions for making them are on my web site 
>http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id5.html .
>
> A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model of a 
> 1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as small as 
> possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw with the 
> magnet on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. Ron is still 
> working on this and has not got to the point of stack music yet. I hope he 
> could bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery has two combustion 
> chambers, so we are using a coil from a 1996 Bonneville to fire both plugs 
> at the same time. Ron's engine has the trigger mounted on a lever to 
> control the spark advance.
>
> If I ever get my STOVER CT_2 together, I will probably use some thing like 
> to above until I get a Wyco EK.
>
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition
>
>
>> Was what he was selling modern? I would say my info from Fairbanks is at 
>> least 30 years old---I'll try to look again tomorrow and see if I can 
>> find a date on the literature.
>>
>> John
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "George & Norma Armstrong" <gnarmstrong at netnitco.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition
>>
>>
>>> John,
>>>    Walt Sappington of MI. told me that solid state was the way to go on 
>>> the
>>> Fairbanks---they run better, start better and there was a guy selling 
>>> the
>>> system at Portland this past show.  The extent of my knowledge. 
>>> George
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Hall <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:57 PM
>>> Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition
>>>
>>>
>>>>Didn't have time to read all of it but while looking through the 
>>>>Fairbanks
>>>>mag parts books at the shop tonight, I saw where they made Solid State
>>>>conversions for flywheel engines. The engines listed were Ajax, Climax,
>>>>Witte, and Fairbanks. I'm guessing these were oilfield units? Anybody 
>>>>ever
>>>>run across an engine with this conversion on it? The engine pictured
>>>>appeared to have been an enclosed crankcase model.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From curt at imc-group.com  Wed Sep 20 07:52:39 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:52:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev
In-Reply-To: <006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer><003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>	<003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>
	<006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>
Message-ID: <451155B7.6080000@imc-group.com>

Ed,
Excellent, excellent documentation!!!!
We thank you for taking the time to do this so precisely.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC


Ed stoller wrote:

> Updated link, scroll down to TASK 5 and look just above it.
>
>> I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built 
>> a Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said 
>> and done and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air 
>> cooled engine, the least expensive way is to convert it to an 
>> automotive transistor type. The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to 
>> $20 at most auto parts stores. One needs a conventional coil with a 
>> built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or aftermarket) or a ballast 
>> resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger coils, but the 
>> instructions for making them are on my web site  
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id5.html  .
>>
>> A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model 
>> of a 1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as 
>> small as possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw 
>> with the magnet on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. 
>> Ron is still working on this and has not got to the point of stack 
>> music yet. I hope he could bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery 
>> has two combustion chambers, so we are using a coil from a 1996 
>> Bonneville to fire both plugs at the same time. Ron's engine has the 
>> trigger mounted on a lever to control the spark advance.
>>



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Wed Sep 20 08:16:19 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:16:19 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Checking a Magneto
In-Reply-To: <092020061313.18569.45113E7F0009DE140000488921603762239B04049A03@att.net>
Message-ID: <C136A953.311A%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

On 9/20/06 6:13 AM, "mullt at att.net" <mullt at att.net> wrote:
> I understand that replacing a magneto can be expensive, sometimes more
> than the engine itself. My question is, how can you check a mag on an
> engine that is not running to see if it is okay. Can you hook a test
> spark plug up, crank the engine and expect to see a spark?
> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> Yes, you can check a magneto by hooking up a test plug.  But that won?t tell
>> you the whole story.  If the plug is fat and blue, that?s a good sign.  If
>> it?s skinny and yellow, the engine might have problems running.  Don?t let
>> this scare you off of an otherwise good deal.  Magnetos can be fixed up just
>> like valves or piston rings.
>> 
>> Sometimes the mags are easy to fix, sometimes not.  One thing to consider,
>> never trip a mag with the high tension lead disconnected.  It can seriously
>> degrade the secondary winding.  Hooking up a plug or grounding the lead is
>> the proper way of handling the situation when you need to trip the magneto.
> 
> 
> How about engines with ignitors. How can you check them?
> 
>> There is not much to go wrong with the ignitor.  Sometimes points wear,
>> creating an intermittent condition.  Very commonly, the rotating shaft and
>> it?s bore will wear so that good electrical contact is lost.  This will have
>> to be addressed, and it?s not usually a huge problem.
>> 
>> If the ignitor is run by a battery and coil, you can easily replace either.
>> If the ignitor runs from a magneto, there are timing issues and the
>> electrical integrity of the magneto to consider.  It can be hard to check the
>> entire system without actually running the engine or testing the magneto on a
>> bench.
>> 
     
 
     Rob Skinner  
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?   562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com   ?   http://www.rustyiron.com






From edstoller at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 20 10:24:40 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:24:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev
References: <000c01c6dc5c$53ed4b40$23630b42@computer><003001c6dc60$fa2d9420$ded04c0c@D48VHZ61>	<003c01c6dcb0$9ce50f50$d2f5f504@Ed>
	<006e01c6dcbb$7e9077f0$d2f5f504@Ed>
	<451155B7.6080000@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <00d001c6dcd9$aad04e30$d2f5f504@Ed>

Thank you Curt.

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] solid state ignition,Rev


> Ed,
> Excellent, excellent documentation!!!!
> We thank you for taking the time to do this so precisely.
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
> 
> 
> Ed stoller wrote:
> 
>> Updated link, scroll down to TASK 5 and look just above it.
>>
>>> I have been playing with ignition systems for a long time, even built 
>>> a Capacitance Discharge Ignition for my Kohler 321. When all is said 
>>> and done and one needs to replace an ignition system on a small air 
>>> cooled engine, the least expensive way is to convert it to an 
>>> automotive transistor type. The Wells CR 109 controller costs $16 to 
>>> $20 at most auto parts stores. One needs a conventional coil with a 
>>> built in resistor ( Tecumseh,  Kohler or aftermarket) or a ballast 
>>> resistor and a trigger coil. I make the trigger coils, but the 
>>> instructions for making them are on my web site  
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/id5.html  .
>>>
>>> A recent project was to make an ignition system for Ron Frosts model 
>>> of a 1895 Mery engine. Here we wanted to keep the trigger coil as 
>>> small as possible. We wound up with a salvaged coil on a 10-24 screw 
>>> with the magnet on the head. It is about the size of a pencil eraser. 
>>> Ron is still working on this and has not got to the point of stack 
>>> music yet. I hope he could bring it to the Coolspring show. The Mery 
>>> has two combustion chambers, so we are using a coil from a 1996 
>>> Bonneville to fire both plugs at the same time. Ron's engine has the 
>>> trigger mounted on a lever to control the spark advance.
>>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From edurand at iglou.com  Wed Sep 20 14:02:12 2006
From: edurand at iglou.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:02:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <C136A953.311A%rskinner@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>

Group:

A while back I posted a message about a Fairbanks-Morse power plant that needed a new home.  Here's an update.

It has been inspected and, except for about 30 years of accumulated dirt, the two older engines turn. There wasn't a bar for the O.P. genset but it looks like it should turn, too. (The engines were only turned about 1/8th of a turn in case something small was stuck.)

After turning the engines, the oilers were turned about 100 turns to get a little lube to the bearings.

The alternators and exciters look to be all right but should be cleaned up and recoated with glyptol.

There are a bunch of original tools - most likely nearly a set of tools for each of the older engines. Manuals are a question mark. There is a pile of junk leaning against the doors of a couple of cabinets that might contain paperwork but we won't know until the junk is cleared out of the building. That is supposed to happen soon.

There are two air compressors (electric motor driven) and tanks but their condition is totally unknown.

The control panels are complete and as they were when the plant was shut down for the last time. A couple of meter glasses are cracked and a step ladder fell on the chart recorder at some time in the past and broke the case.

It looks as if originally there were three of the 2-banger sets. One was removed and the 5-banger O.P. (250kW) unit with it's control panel was installed in it's place. The control panel for the old removed genset is leaning against the wall in the back room.

There is some surface rust on the rheostat housings, etc. but it looks to be only cosmetic. All of the control and power transformers are still in place (2200 Volt to 220 Volt 3-phase) and look to be serviceable.

The coolant pumps and heat exchangers and all the plumbing are there. The older engines were cooled by heat exchange from a well. The O.P. unit has a radiator.

The fuel day tanks , filters, etc. are there and may be useable.

At this time, we have qualified parties interested in the gensets but won't know for sure if they will be taken until Board meetings are held to decide.

The plan is to remove them some time in November. A barge will be chartered with a crane and can be floated to near the building at high tide. The plan is to load one or more semi flatbed trailers onto the barge and transfer the machinery to them after moving it outside the building. 

The trailers can most likely be hooked up and driven off the barge from the mainland dock.

The O.P unit is on a skid and closest to the door and we hope to be able to skid it out with come alongs.

The exciters, alternators, etc will be disassembled from the old units and we hope that we have enough muscle (moving gear) to be able to the engines (minus railings, etc.) in one piece.

We are also hoping to get volunteer professional riggers to do the smart part of moving everything. The control panels and the alternator rotors should be crated and we need someone who knows how to get this done. There is some 120 Volt AC power in the building for lights and tools.

Anyhoo, that's about it. We're really optimistic about saving this iron and, barring some bureaucratic snags, it should get done.

Take care - Elden & Friend
http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 20 12:33:17 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:33:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Elden,

Your project sounds a helluva lot like the rescue of three 3-cylinder
Fairbanks-Morse generator outfits that were in a power station in Long
Lake, New York.  Check out some of the pics of that project.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/fairbanksmorse32.html

Good luck!!  It's worth saving those engines.  They are sweet runners and
definitely crowd pleasers at any showgrounds.

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Elden DuRand wrote:

> A while back I posted a message about a Fairbanks-Morse power plant
> that needed a new home.  Here's an update.



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Sep 20 13:52:28 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:52:28 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
Message-ID: <20060920.135228.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Hi Arnie.
That link takes me to a picture of a McCormick Deering magneto?????

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Wed Sep 20 15:29:52 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:29:52 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <20060920.135228.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <C1370EF0.3175%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

On 9/20/06 1:52 PM, "rdhaskell at juno.com" <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
Hi Arnie.
That link takes me to a picture of a McCormick Deering magneto?????
> 
> Hi Ron,
> You?re looking at the mysterious image swapping phenomenon on Jim?s server.
> Click ?refresh? or ?reload? from within your browser, and the correct image
> will likely load.

     
 
     Rob Skinner
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com






From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 20 15:56:59 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:56:59 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
References: <20060920.135228.1864.3.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000901c6dd08$1593c340$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Power Plant Update


> Hi Arnie.
> That link takes me to a picture of a McCormick Deering magneto?????
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

Hi Ron, It works OK for me. A bit slow though even though I am on 4 MB.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Sep 20 16:32:54 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:32:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] was Power Plant Update Now OT
Message-ID: <20060920.163254.1864.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Rob.  I copied and pasted it to Netscape and it came up.
Did you change something in your fonts in the last couple of days? 
Whenever you type an apostrophe it comes up as a number 1 except to the
power of.  In the reply below it is Click (cubed) refresh (squared) or
(cubed) reload (squared)
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0


 Hi Ron,
 You?re looking at the mysterious image swapping phenomenon on 
 Jim?s server.
Click ?refresh? or ?reload? from within your browser, and the 
 correct image
 will likely load.
    Rob Skinner
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
    rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com


From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 20 17:13:51 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:13:51 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
Message-ID: <392.ad90a0e.3243333f@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/19/2006 6:05:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes:

<< Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul the 
old iron around is "no more". >>


Paul,

Sorry to see the end of your truck, but glad your grandson and his passenger 
are doing ok after a ride like that!  No matter how clean we keep our 
vehicles, the insurance companies never give enough when the vehicle is older.

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 20 18:02:26 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:02:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck
References: <392.ad90a0e.3243333f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c6dd19$9b81be10$240110ac@FAMILY>

Thanks Tom,

Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Last Ride of a Great Engine Truck


> In a message dated 9/19/2006 6:05:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> << Well gang the truck that I have used for the last 16-1/2 years to haul 
> the
> old iron around is "no more". >>
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Sorry to see the end of your truck, but glad your grandson and his 
> passenger
> are doing ok after a ride like that!  No matter how clean we keep our
> vehicles, the insurance companies never give enough when the vehicle is 
> older.
>
> 




From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep 20 19:12:35 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:12:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Flywheels in Racin Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBAEOLELAA.edurand@iglou.com>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060920220150.0345dde0@pop3.wcoil.com>

Hi All, I'm looking at getting a set of Ideal flywheels in Racin Wisconsin. 
Is there anyone in the area coming to Coolsprings or Portland this fall 
that can pick em up and give them a ride? Or however to get them this way?

                             Thanks,  Mark

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine 




From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Thu Sep 21 04:57:16 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:57:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List! 
References: <007e01c6dbe9$cfb5f830$05e14044@pengy>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060919211658.02ee0cd0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <010101c6dd75$158508b0$05e14044@pengy>

Dave,

I'm working on it!  My goal is to have her turing over via electric motor 
(steam and air are too expensive) by 2010.  Can you stay alive until then? 
That means next year's project is foundation work and 2009 is lining up and 
reassembly.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Miracle of the SEL List!


> Hi Rick,
>         I will remember, to my dying day when we first met in Youngstown 
> and saw the Tod. My reaction was, I'm sure, the same as the 16 year old 
> girl on her wedding night in the year that the Tod was built--DAMN THAT 
> THING SURE IS HUGE! The Tod was a good 200 yards away when we first saw 
> it, and we all stopped dead in our tracks and just looked at her! What a 
> sight! And what a crew we made! Can anyone else remember the day that it 
> was -10 F in the building and we (dumb asses that we were) still tried to 
> remove nuts and bolts? It was 5 minutes of work and 20 minutes in front of 
> the kero torpedo space heater! One inch frost on the flywheel, and when 
> you scraped that off it would reappear in about 15 minutes and you could 
> not tell where it had been removed!
>         I also remember you, Rick, hanging on the end of a 4' chain wrench 
> (about 9' in the air) with an 11' cheater pipe attached to it--and the 
> damn chain broke! That was in an attempt to remove the last 5" nut holding 
> the flywheel together. It was only "the luck of the Irish" that caused you 
> to miss stratteling that 4'X8' piece of upright 1/4" steel guard at the 
> end of the flywheel! (Have you ever told your bride how close you came to 
> becoming a soprano  that day?)
>         Then there was the day we attempted to remove the last 11" nut 
> from the con rod cap. Used the 10 ton Pettibone crane so we did--and broke 
> the dam 3' wrench in the process! Your friend (damn, I can't remember his 
> name) cut us a new 11" hex nut wrench out of 1" steel plate  (actually two 
> 1/2" pieces of steel plate welded together) that night and the next 
> morning the Pettibone  loosened the nut with only a slight "tink." After 
> that I removed the nut BY HAND--although I needed Arnie's help to carry 
> the damn thing over to the nut pile after I had it off.
>         And the stories I could relate about the comradery that developed 
> as the project continued. Only one other time in my life can I recall such 
> comradery! I thank you Rick for allowing me to be a small part of the TOD 
> Project! I'll take my memories of that experience with me to my grave!
>         Dave
> PS, Thinking about my grave, when the hell do you think the Tod will be 
> all back together and running on her own steam (or should I say "air?") I 
> figure that I only have another 10 years, or so, so how about getting on 
> the stick and making it happen before that?
>
> At 08:47 AM 9/19/2006, you wrote:
>>Ten years ago several members of this Stationary Engine List met in 
>>Youngstown, Ohio to undertake the removal of a large stationary steam 
>>engine.  Dave Rotigel, Arnie Fero, Matt Picaro, Craig Prucha, Bill 
>>Pfeiffer, DJ Rotigel, Rick Monk and myself made up what we have called the 
>>"Wrecking Crew".
>>
>>The engine that we successfully removed has sat in pieces until yesterday 
>>when 250 tons of 93 year old iron was put back together in her new home.
>>
>>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/DSC09493.JPG
>>
>>More Photos here:
>>
>>http://community.webshots.com/album/554214728mqgcLZ
>>
>>The engine is a 34" x 68" x 60" cross compound rolling mill engine of 
>>4,000 HP.  The crankshaft hasn't been set into the bearings yet and the 
>>flywheel also is not together yet.
>>
>>Rick Rowlands
>>Tod Engine Foundation
>
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From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Thu Sep 21 05:16:10 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:16:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <20060921121602.CSHD22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I finally have a couple of minutes spare so a report on last weekend is in
order :)
Our club had its annual rally last weekend and the feature was IHC. There
was a good line up of IHC engines, tractors, trucks and implements. The
weather was perfect (unusual for this rally).
A few list members were present, Brad even brought his big 10hp M out of
hiding and made the long trip down. Of course, as the feature was IHC I
exhibited my Stover, Brock had his White and Gilson, Michael had a Witte &
Cam had his Austral. The rest of the list members did manage to have IHC
engines so that made up for us ;)
The mighty YC Stover had its first failure after much running at rallies
since its debut last December. It broke the return spring on the Webster
ignitor. It is of course in a fiddly spot and the engine was very hot so it
was not fun to replace. New spring in place and the engine was running
again. The Webster gets a fairly hard time on the throttle governed engine
as it is continually being tripped unlike on the hit and miss when it gets a
bit of a break when the engine is missing.
It was another fantastic weekend with nice engines and great people. I will
hopefully have some pics up on my site on the weekend. I took over 400
photos so there is a lot to sort through.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 21 09:30:40 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:30:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] was Power Plant Update Now OT
In-Reply-To: <20060920.163254.1864.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
References: <20060920.163254.1864.4.rdhaskell@juno.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609211228300.79949@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Ron,

Rob recently went over to the dark side and is a Mac man now.
Despite the TV adverts to the contrary, Macs don't talk to the rest of the
world very well.  I see the same fubar aspects to Rob's emails.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Rob.  I copied and pasted it to Netscape and it came up.
> Did you change something in your fonts in the last couple of days?
> Whenever you type an apostrophe it comes up as a number 1 except to the
> power of.  In the reply below it is Click (cubed) refresh (squared) or
> (cubed) reload (squared)
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California
> USA
> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0
>
>
>  Hi Ron,
>  You?re looking at the mysterious image swapping phenomenon on
>  Jim?s server.
> Click ?refresh? or ?reload? from within your browser, and the
>  correct image
>  will likely load.
>     Rob Skinner
>      1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
>     rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Thu Sep 21 11:23:58 2006
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:23:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] was Power Plant Update Now OT
Message-ID: <20060921.112358.2120.2.rdhaskell@juno.com>

Arnie.
It is all Kelley's fault, she has corrupted the lad.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California
USA
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Arnie Fero
<fero_ah at city-net.com> writes:
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Rob recently went over to the dark side and is a Mac man now.
> Despite the TV adverts to the contrary, Macs don't talk to the rest 
> of the
> world very well.  I see the same fubar aspects to Rob's emails.  
> 8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie


From bigtime64 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 21 12:17:34 2006
From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:17:34 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Flywheels in Racin Wisconsin
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20060920220150.0345dde0@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F2522D617F3638D19F169B2B4200@phx.gbl>

I could pick them up and hold them for you.  I work about 20 minutesw from 
Racine.  From there I saw that Joe P is going down to coolsprings, I could 
probably pass them along to him or I know of a couple more guys that go that 
wayfor the meets I could send them with.

I am interested in meeting the seller as I have bid on but been outbid on a 
few items of his recently.  I could maybe get a preview of what is on the 
sale block.  Let me  know if you win.


Ed Herreid
Trevor WI


----Original Message Follows----
From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] Flywheels in Racin Wisconsin
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:12:35 -0400

Hi All, I'm looking at getting a set of Ideal flywheels in Racin Wisconsin. 
Is there anyone in the area coming to Coolsprings or Portland this fall that 
can pick em up and give them a ride? Or however to get them this way?

                             Thanks,  Mark

Mark & Christine Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817  USA            Email: Frappi at wcoil.com

Home #419.358.5206
Verizon Cell
#419.516.2996 Mark
#330.475.4450 Christine


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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 22 17:33:07 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:33:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
Message-ID: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>

I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice before I buy one. Thanks

Paul



From bill at antique-engines.com  Fri Sep 22 18:07:46 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:07:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000901c6deac$afe0bc00$fb00a8c0@sheeba>

I have a 1995 Ford F250 (3/4 ton) 4x4 w/351, automatic, etc. 
64,000 miles, original battery.
Maybe that's too old for your needs?


Bill
Runnells, IA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:33 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner

I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 22 18:58:52 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:58:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <00b501c6deb3$d2c6bd30$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

I got an 05 Dodge with a Cummins; what you need to know?

Lew Best near Waco, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Maples
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:33 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner

I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some
advice before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From BillMil357 at aol.com  Fri Sep 22 19:07:23 2006
From: BillMil357 at aol.com (BillMil357 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:07:23 EDT
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
Message-ID: <553.a060c60.3245f0db@aol.com>

Paul,
 
 Your OLE engine buddy owns two of them, both diesels.
 
Bill Miller.



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 22 19:28:20 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:28:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
Message-ID: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>

I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.  
Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several 
years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember 
him and his family in your prayers.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 22 19:59:36 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:59:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <007801c6debc$4e17ac30$240110ac@FAMILY>

Thanks Tommy for letting us know about Mike, I had often talked to him via 
e-mail. Our hobby is suffering some terrible losses this year with Ted gone 
and now Mike and I am sure there are others. Mike and his family will be in 
my prayers.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing


>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.  Mike 
>had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several years.  He 
>loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember him and his 
>family in your prayers.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Fri Sep 22 20:04:55 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:04:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <003001c6debd$0d0403f0$b3d14c0c@D48VHZ61>

Got a 2001 Chevy 4 door. Rides great, not 4WD. Gets around 14mpg back and 
forth to work---hardly any stop and go.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice 
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From asouth at strato.net  Fri Sep 22 20:16:32 2006
From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:16:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <002d01c6debe$ab8bb490$2421d7cc@LapTop>

Hi Paul,

I have a 1992 Ford 7.3L diesel 193,000 miles. Still strong, doesn't "use" 
oil yet.  Running 4:10 HD rear gears, gets 12 MPG running around local, 
about 14 to 15 MPG on the hwy.

Hope this helps.

Arthur














Arthur Southwell
Arthur Southwell Rebuilding
Arcadia, Florida 34266 U.S.A.
asouth at strato.net


http://www.homestead.com/artsouthwell/index.html
http://photos.yahoo.com/mr_nocatee
http://community.webshots.com/user/asouth944


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice 
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From asouth at strato.net  Fri Sep 22 20:17:43 2006
From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:17:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <003301c6debe$d60f0960$2421d7cc@LapTop>

Tommy,
Sorry to hear of your friend's passing.

Arthur














Arthur Southwell
Arthur Southwell Rebuilding
Arcadia, Florida 34266 U.S.A.
asouth at strato.net 


http://www.homestead.com/artsouthwell/index.html
http://photos.yahoo.com/mr_nocatee
http://community.webshots.com/user/asouth944


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:28 PM
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing


>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.  
> Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several 
> years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember 
> him and his family in your prayers.
> 
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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>



From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Sep 22 20:29:08 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:29:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
Message-ID: <20060922.232914.1136.3.jlb94@juno.com>

Thanks Tommy - We'll be thinking of Mike.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/     
 (_o_)


From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Sep 22 20:27:51 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:27:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
Message-ID: <20060922.232914.1136.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi Paul,

Not sure if I can give any advice.  
Mine's a 1972 Ford  F-250  4x4.
What's on your mind ?

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Sep 22 20:32:20 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:32:20 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<002d01c6debe$ab8bb490$2421d7cc@LapTop>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV9A3594A0D9429E7AD3137BB260@phx.gbl>

2005 D-Max, Paul...Crewcab short box..just turned 11k...~16mpg.

Regards,
RickinMt.


From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Sep 22 23:25:59 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:25:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
Message-ID: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of them
are on my site at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
Enjoy!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/



From falcon at telenet.net  Fri Sep 22 20:13:03 2006
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:13:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>



Paul Maples wrote:
> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice before I buy one. Thanks
> 
> Paul
> 
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> 
> 

Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
What do you have in mind?

-- 
Steve W.


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep 23 04:35:42 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:35:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <000f01c6df04$680a3340$ecf1ecdc@domain.invalid>

very good! as usual.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>;
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of
them
> are on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
> Enjoy!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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From bboyce at swat.coop  Sat Sep 23 04:33:14 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 06:33:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001701c6df04$0ee72390$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

hi paul,, one suggestion on a 3/4 ton, if you get a diesel, and it doesnt 
have 4wd, you can forget about driving on other than hard surfaces, just too 
much weight on the front wheels,,i have a 92 dodge and it will hardly pull 
itself out of a heavy dew on grass !!  but on the plus side, other than new 
brake shoes and pads its never been in the shop, NEVER,,,, even the A/C has 
never been touched and will still freeze ya out,,,,it has the old mechanical 
fuel injection pump and will get 19 and 20 mpg on the highway even with an 
engine trailer behind it,,, wish i could buy a new one just like it 
again,,,, i added air bag helper springs on the rear, and use them 
occasionaly when i'm pulling a heavily loaded gooseneck livestock 
trailer,,,,i had a 1/2 ton chev set up the same way, but theres just no 
compairing the 1/2 and 3/4 ton,, hope this helps,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas




I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice 
before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 23 04:51:18 2006
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <20060923115118.77399.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Paul,
  I don't own one yet but am also looking. I'm thinking I want a 60's-70's vintage and with a flatbed or convert it to one. The prices arn't too bad for one that age and parts are still available. I want it to take to engine and tractor shows. Will fit better with the old stuff I take to shows. Would like one older than that, say 40's-50's but wonder about the reiliability on the road and interstate speeds for one that old. 
  What do you have in mind?
  Ron

Paul Maples <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some advice before I buy one. Thanks

Paul

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Ron Frost
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From bee_keeper at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 23 05:14:47 2006
From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:14:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <001701c6df04$0ee72390$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>
Message-ID: <002101c6df09$de027300$0ddac140@OFFICELEW>

Hey Bill

I had a '93 Dodge diesel & now have a '05; never noticed this "light
weight on the rear wheels" problem?  Just got back from KY with a
trailer load probably grossing bout 5k pounds; setting the cruise on 60
I averaged near 23 mpg overall.  BTW if you're anywhere near Missouri
diesel was 2.31 a gallon when I came through Tuesday!  Packed the tank
full; made it within 60 miles of home before the low fuel light came on!
:)

Lew near Waco, TX 


hi paul,, one suggestion on a 3/4 ton, if you get a diesel, and it
doesnt 
have 4wd, you can forget about driving on other than hard surfaces, just
too 
much weight on the front wheels,,i have a 92 dodge and it will hardly
pull 
itself out of a heavy dew on grass !!  but on the plus side, other than
new 
brake shoes and pads its never been in the shop, NEVER,,,, even the A/C
has 
never been touched and will still freeze ya out,,,,it has the old
mechanical 
fuel injection pump and will get 19 and 20 mpg on the highway even with
an 
engine trailer behind it,,, wish i could buy a new one just like it 
again,,,, i added air bag helper springs on the rear, and use them 
occasionaly when i'm pulling a heavily loaded gooseneck livestock 
trailer,,,,i had a 1/2 ton chev set up the same way, but theres just no 
compairing the 1/2 and 3/4 ton,, hope this helps,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
 

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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Sat Sep 23 05:17:03 2006
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:17:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
References: <20060921121602.CSHD22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <00ba01c6df0a$2e39ba40$5f11fea9@merlin>

Good pics as normal Patrick thanks for puting them up  you forgot to mention 
Edd was there to with his Thompson tiger.
regards Brock
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally


>I finally have a couple of minutes spare so a report on last weekend is in
> order :)
> Our club had its annual rally last weekend and the feature was IHC. There
> was a good line up of IHC engines, tractors, trucks and implements. The
> weather was perfect (unusual for this rally).
> A few list members were present, Brad even brought his big 10hp M out of
> hiding and made the long trip down. Of course, as the feature was IHC I
> exhibited my Stover, Brock had his White and Gilson, Michael had a Witte &
> Cam had his Austral. The rest of the list members did manage to have IHC
> engines so that made up for us ;)
> The mighty YC Stover had its first failure after much running at rallies
> since its debut last December. It broke the return spring on the Webster
> ignitor. It is of course in a fiddly spot and the engine was very hot so 
> it
> was not fun to replace. New spring in place and the engine was running
> again. The Webster gets a fairly hard time on the throttle governed engine
> as it is continually being tripped unlike on the hit and miss when it gets 
> a
> bit of a break when the engine is missing.
> It was another fantastic weekend with nice engines and great people. I 
> will
> hopefully have some pics up on my site on the weekend. I took over 400
> photos so there is a lot to sort through.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
>
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sat Sep 23 05:21:30 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:21:30 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <005f01c6df0a$ce69b920$3ac10b52@no1>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:25 AM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of them
> are on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
> Enjoy!  Patrick M Livingstone

Hi Patrick, Very Nice pictures.
The IHC Tom Thumb
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061005.JPG
is different to the one I owned & I have never seen one before using a magneto.
It seems to be driven by the belt drive cog! Were these fitted by the Oz importer?
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv




From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Sep 23 05:30:52 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:30:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c6df0a$2e39ba40$5f11fea9@merlin>
Message-ID: <20060923123040.BWSI15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

I thought it was best not to mention that the one person with more nice IHC
engines than anyone else did not bring one ;)

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----

Good pics as normal Patrick thanks for puting them up  you forgot to mention

Edd was there to with his Thompson tiger.
regards Brock




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Sep 23 05:54:38 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:54:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <45152E8E.1020803@scrtc.com>

Patrick,
    Great photos.  Thanks for posting them.  On page 4 of your photos 
the link to enlarge the thumbnail of the 8 HP Austral doesn't work and 
it brings up a photo of another engine.  I like the Australs and would 
love to trade for one.  It doesn't appear I could afford the haul bill 
and associated headaches though to get one.  I was telling  a friend of 
mine a year or so ago that I might take a trip to an engine show in 
Australia some day.  He asked how far away it was and I told him about 
9000 miles.  He said "WHEW, WHAT A DRIVE!".  They haven't built the 
bridge yet though.  Thanks again for posting the photos.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


>Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of them
>are on my site at:
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
>Enjoy!
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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>
>
>  
>



From mickc at vic.australis.com.au  Sat Sep 23 06:07:23 2006
From: mickc at vic.australis.com.au (Mick Christie)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:07:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
References: <20060921121602.CSHD22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<00ba01c6df0a$2e39ba40$5f11fea9@merlin>
Message-ID: <006301c6df11$3d669950$8ead57ca@n>

You'v done well again patrick, i also noted you missed mentioning edd was 
there with the thompson tiger, how could you forget an engine like that! 
especially when Edd got up every 10 minutes to wipe off any little drops of 
oil that it may have got on it!
   Cheers
        Mick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock Summerfield" <brock at netspeed.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sydney Rally


> Good pics as normal Patrick thanks for puting them up  you forgot to 
> mention
> Edd was there to with his Thompson tiger.
> regards Brock
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>;
> "Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:16 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
>
>
>>I finally have a couple of minutes spare so a report on last weekend is in
>> order :)
>> Our club had its annual rally last weekend and the feature was IHC. There
>> was a good line up of IHC engines, tractors, trucks and implements. The
>> weather was perfect (unusual for this rally).
>> A few list members were present, Brad even brought his big 10hp M out of
>> hiding and made the long trip down. Of course, as the feature was IHC I
>> exhibited my Stover, Brock had his White and Gilson, Michael had a Witte 
>> &
>> Cam had his Austral. The rest of the list members did manage to have IHC
>> engines so that made up for us ;)
>> The mighty YC Stover had its first failure after much running at rallies
>> since its debut last December. It broke the return spring on the Webster
>> ignitor. It is of course in a fiddly spot and the engine was very hot so
>> it
>> was not fun to replace. New spring in place and the engine was running
>> again. The Webster gets a fairly hard time on the throttle governed 
>> engine
>> as it is continually being tripped unlike on the hit and miss when it 
>> gets
>> a
>> bit of a break when the engine is missing.
>> It was another fantastic weekend with nice engines and great people. I
>> will
>> hopefully have some pics up on my site on the weekend. I took over 400
>> photos so there is a lot to sort through.
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 07:12:50 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:12:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>

Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off List" 
in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so many of 
you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message I have 
been sending to individuals to the group.

As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now truck 
shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 Chevrolet 
with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 87,000 miles on 
it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking $14,000 for it and has 
come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the original owner and he said no. 
He told me he bought it from the man who had originally bought it and that 
this man was a pipeliner and used the truck to pull a mobile home from job 
to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and then this guy that has it now bought 
it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and he started out pulling a large camper 
trailer with it and then just used it for general transportation and pulling 
a 12' trailer with various things on it.

My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, do 
you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear in 
the drive train?

According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded in.

I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know what 
you think.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


>
>
> Paul Maples wrote:
>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
> What do you have in mind?
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From marvhed at ecenet.com  Sat Sep 23 07:19:44 2006
From: marvhed at ecenet.com (MARVIN HEDBERG)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:19:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
In-Reply-To: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <30535.199.62.0.252.1159021184.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net>

tommy,
thanks for the sad report.
i'll always remember the time about 10 yrs ago when i picked up a 5"
Ericsson at 2 AM from mike. he was still up at his computer and welcomed
us with a BIG smile. he will be greatly missed.

marv in minn


he was havin> I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has
passed away.
> Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several
> years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember
> him and his family in your prayers.
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
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From SmithEngines at aol.com  Sat Sep 23 07:49:24 2006
From: SmithEngines at aol.com (SmithEngines at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:49:24 EDT
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
Message-ID: <d8.3e847180.3246a374@aol.com>

Thanx a million for posting Mikes passing on the list he is looking down on 
you and smiling 

                                                                              
          Marilyn
                                                                              
              His Wife



From bboyce at swat.coop  Sat Sep 23 07:51:36 2006
From: bboyce at swat.coop (Bill Boyce)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:51:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
	<003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000801c6df1f$c5004fb0$3f6ffea9@BillyBob>

paul, i dont think drive train wear would be an issue,,,however, i never was 
much on paying more for something than its worth,,,but if it the body is 
straight, interior nice and clean, reasonable rubber left, and it fits your 
needs, then maybe it would be worth a tic more than blue book....
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off 
> List" in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so 
> many of you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message 
> I have been sending to individuals to the group.
>
> As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now 
> truck shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 
> Chevrolet with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 
> 87,000 miles on it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking 
> $14,000 for it and has come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the 
> original owner and he said no. He told me he bought it from the man who 
> had originally bought it and that this man was a pipeliner and used the 
> truck to pull a mobile home from job to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and 
> then this guy that has it now bought it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and 
> he started out pulling a large camper trailer with it and then just used 
> it for general transportation and pulling a 12' trailer with various 
> things on it.
>
> My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, 
> do you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear 
> in the drive train?
>
> According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
> consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded 
> in.
>
> I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
> buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know 
> what you think.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
>
>
>>
>>
>> Paul Maples wrote:
>>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
>> What do you have in mind?
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve W.
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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>
> 




From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Sep 23 08:24:55 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:24:55 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
	<003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV4A8B0624EF49BF1A19820BB260@phx.gbl>

Hi Paul;
  I owned a '93 (might have been a '91) Big Block 454, throttle body 
injected, in a motorhome and was happy with it.  Automatic transmission 
responded well in the Rockies.  I have read tho that exh. manifolds have 
been known to crack...hopefully they got that prob fixed..to my knowledge, 
mine never did.
  You're talking crewcab and if it's a long box, well that's a pretty long 
truck for getting around town, i.e. parking lots, tight turns and such.
  I also concur..drivetrain should be fine. If automatic..smell the tranny 
fluid, you'll be able to tell if it's burnt.
  Gas mileage, I'd say not to expect any more than 15...probably less.

  2wd or 4wd....2wd is fine on pavement.  Hauling iron to shows..should be 
great..everyday get around town rig..naw

  Hope this helps a little and super happy your Grandson is OK!!!

Regards,
RickinMt. 



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sat Sep 23 10:42:23 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:42:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net>
	<003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61>

Go drive the Chevy in a parking lot. Mine has such horrible turning radius 
it needs independent rear brakes like a tractor!!!! Also mine is 2wd and 
will get stuck on wet grass. Other than that no other complaints.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off 
> List" in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so 
> many of you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message 
> I have been sending to individuals to the group.
>
> As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now 
> truck shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 
> Chevrolet with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 
> 87,000 miles on it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking 
> $14,000 for it and has come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the 
> original owner and he said no. He told me he bought it from the man who 
> had originally bought it and that this man was a pipeliner and used the 
> truck to pull a mobile home from job to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and 
> then this guy that has it now bought it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and 
> he started out pulling a large camper trailer with it and then just used 
> it for general transportation and pulling a 12' trailer with various 
> things on it.
>
> My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, 
> do you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear 
> in the drive train?
>
> According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
> consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded 
> in.
>
> I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
> buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know 
> what you think.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
>
>
>>
>>
>> Paul Maples wrote:
>>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
>> What do you have in mind?
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve W.
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From davidheggie at sympatico.ca  Sat Sep 23 12:11:10 2006
From: davidheggie at sympatico.ca (David Heggie)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:11:10 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
Message-ID: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>

Hi All. 

Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.

I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
appreciated.

I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
iron horse kick start engines.

thank you
david heggie
lachute,quebec canada


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Sep 23 12:32:31 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:32:31 +0100
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609231232r26f7c1adhaab3f9a2e04d3f6@mail.gmail.com>

On 23/09/06, David Heggie <davidheggie at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
> the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
> also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.
>
> I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
> appreciated.
>
> I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
> different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
> iron horse kick start engines.
>
> thank you
> david heggie
>

There are a load of oddball tapping/drilling/thread size tables on our
webpages under the Mechanical Tables section.

The BA table is at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Tables/ba1.htm

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From nick at holden1.net  Sat Sep 23 12:35:17 2006
From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:35:17 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <45158C72.000001.01708@YOUR-447023AE6B>

Look hear
It has all types of drill sizes
 
 http://homepages.tesco.net/~A10bsa/sizesgo.htm
 
 
 
Nick
Banbury (UK)
http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: David Heggie
Date: 09/23/06 20:26:41
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
 
Hi All.
 
Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.
 
I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
appreciated.
 
I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
iron horse kick start engines.
 
thank you
david heggie
lachute,quebec canada
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 12:37:28 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:37:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net><003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <00a101c6df47$b4982620$240110ac@FAMILY>

Darn John, it sounds like that other than being almost worthless it is a 
good truck. You, and others, have definitely convinced me that if I get a 
3/4 ton truck it needs to be 4WD, I would hate to get stuck in my own 
driveway. Appreciate the advice.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Go drive the Chevy in a parking lot. Mine has such horrible turning radius 
> it needs independent rear brakes like a tractor!!!! Also mine is 2wd and 
> will get stuck on wet grass. Other than that no other complaints.
>
> John
> ----- 




From jdohagan at comcast.net  Sat Sep 23 14:33:11 2006
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:33:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
In-Reply-To: <003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <20060923213315.2963F313C24@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org>

Hi Paul, For what its worth,I have a 02 Chevy ,Silverado HD2500,4x4 with a
6.6 Duramax and Allison auto trans. It's a LT with all the toys, but the
important part is ,it's been trouble free, gets 19+ MPG up hill/down hill
with a 2000+Lb load in the back sometimes. The tranny is set up for towing
heavy loads. The gas big block loves gas. Unless you have a need for it 'I'd
pass on it. The standard 6.0 L  will get the job done. If you can find one
that was a "pet" pay a little more for it rather than a "Mule". Jimmy
O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236
Hagan
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul Maples
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:13 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner

Ok Guys, I have been responding to each message individually and "Off List" 
in hopes of not offending any of our more sensitive members but so many of 
you have been eager to help me that I am going to send the message I have 
been sending to individuals to the group.

As you guys know my truck was destroyed in a recent accident. I am now truck

shopping for a good used truck. I have found a 3/4 Ton HD 2001 Chevrolet 
with the big engine in it, it is loaded, has a crew cab, has 87,000 miles on

it, towing package, bedliner, etc. The man was asking $14,000 for it and has

come down to $13,300. I ask him if he was the original owner and he said no.

He told me he bought it from the man who had originally bought it and that 
this man was a pipeliner and used the truck to pull a mobile home from job 
to job. He put 20,000 miles on it and then this guy that has it now bought 
it. He has put 67,000 miles on it and he started out pulling a large camper 
trailer with it and then just used it for general transportation and pulling

a 12' trailer with various things on it.

My question is that this truck has spent most if it's life pulling loads, do

you think that all of this pulling might have generated excessive wear in 
the drive train?

According to Kelly Blue Book the truck is worth about $11,900 if one 
consumer buys it from another consumer, about a $1000.00 less if traded in.

I have never owed a 3/4 ton truck and just don't know if I should try and 
buy this truck or not since it has spent it's life pulling, let me know what

you think.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


>
>
> Paul Maples wrote:
>> I need to talk to anyone that owns a 3/4 Ton Pickup truck, need some 
>> advice before I buy one. Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
> Have a 2004 2500HD Chevy with the 6.0 as a tow rig for the camper.
> What do you have in mind?
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 


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From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 24 05:06:17 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:06:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net><003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY><002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<00a101c6df47$b4982620$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <002601c6dfd1$d8698230$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>

How'd you know I got stuck in 4 inches of snow 50 ft from the house!?!?!? I 
think part of the problem was the 10 ply tires on the truck when I got it. 
Replaced them with something not so stiff and it does seem to grip better. 
As for parking lots you get used to backing into spaces. I must admit the 
ride quality on mine is GREAT! The only thing I really dislike about mine is 
the lack of 4wd. Maybe on the next truck......

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner


> Darn John, it sounds like that other than being almost worthless it is a 
> good truck. You, and others, have definitely convinced me that if I get a 
> 3/4 ton truck it needs to be 4WD, I would hate to get stuck in my own 
> driveway. Appreciate the advice.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
>
>
>> Go drive the Chevy in a parking lot. Mine has such horrible turning 
>> radius it needs independent rear brakes like a tractor!!!! Also mine is 
>> 2wd and will get stuck on wet grass. Other than that no other complaints.
>>
>> John
>> ----- 
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 24 05:12:42 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:12:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>

Try this site anytime you run into oddball threads---I use them at work 
quite often.
www.marylandmetrics.com

Am I correct that BA threads are the same as Whitworth?

John Hall


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Heggie" <davidheggie at sympatico.ca>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap


Hi All.

Can you please advise me where to look, or  if you have the information on
the drill size in inches or metric to drill a 7BA clear and a 7BA tap. I
also need the same for BA 2 thru 8.

I am working on a Stuart 10V . Any other information would be most
appreciated.

I am retired and learning to operate a mill and lathe and wish to make
different models. I have some hit and miss engines and a range of maytag and
iron horse kick start engines.

thank you
david heggie
lachute,quebec canada
_______________________________________________




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 18:51:49 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:51:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work
Message-ID: <011f01c6df7c$0070a980$240110ac@FAMILY>

Folks I just wanted to give all of you a heads up on a new free forum that just became active this week, it is not on the worldwide web yet but I am told by Howard it will be by this coming week.

Although the site is primarily for folks looking for help with learning Autobody Work and Painting it has a miscellaneous tab that you can go to and Howard will help you with any questions you may have on preparing and painting sheetmetal, iron, plastic, etc.  You can also discuss tools, methods, or just about anything else that relates to working and preparing metal to acquire great finishes. Howard promotes what he calls Howard's Backyard Auto Body training. He is a professional paint and body man who loves to share his knowledge with others and he has assured me he would love to hear from all of the old engine collectors if you need advice on preparing and painting metal to include our old iron. He is a super nice guy and you will love his earthly and down home approach to low cost body and metal work.

The forum is brand new, just came on the web this last week so go and visit the site, register, and become part of what I think will be a new and exciting forum that can help some of us in the hobby. Here is the URL address:

http://www.howardsbackyardautobody.com/phpBB2/index.php

Paul


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 23 08:25:00 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:25:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
References: <d8.3e847180.3246a374@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006201c6df24$6fd032d0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Marilyn, I am so sorry to hear of Mike's passing, I never got to meet Mike 
but I bought an engine from him and it was picked up by another friend of 
mine and brought to the Portland Engine show where I picked it up. Mike and 
I conversed a lot by e-mail and by phone. I still have the engine, it is 
still setting where I put it the day I brought it home from Portland. Now 
everytime I look at it I will be reminded that it came from a good friend 
who has now gone to be with the Lord.

May God grant you and your family a peace that surpasses all understanding 
as another of our beloved engine men has departed this life for one where 
there will be no suffering, no tears, no heartaches, just joy and peace.

God Bless and Keep You,

Paul in Arkansas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <SmithEngines at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] A friend's passing


> Thanx a million for posting Mikes passing on the list he is looking down 
> on
> you and smiling
>
>
>          Marilyn
>
>              His Wife
>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Sep 24 06:10:35 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:10:35 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T  O.T Need to talk to 3/4T Truck Owner
References: <007e01c6dea7$d758bee0$240110ac@FAMILY><4514A63F.2080707@telenet.net><003a01c6df1a$5b100c80$240110ac@FAMILY><002701c6df37$a1823c20$65f04c0c@D48VHZ61><00a101c6df47$b4982620$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<002601c6dfd1$d8698230$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV439DBA1C2C7D2AD20C574BB270@phx.gbl>




> > Darn John, it sounds like that other than being almost worthless it is a
> > good truck. You, and others, have definitely convinced me that if I get 
> > a
> > 3/4 ton truck it needs to be 4WD, I would hate to get stuck in my own
> > driveway. Appreciate the advice.
> >
> > Paul

   When I got my first 4wd, they said: "Now you're REALLY GONNA GET STUCK," 
They were right!!!!

   OTOH, Paul, 4wd, or actually 3/4 ton will probably mean "Nerf Bars" for 
step up.  Bright side...you can look down into the rag top Porche's...we 
won't go there.

  Good Luck
  RickinMt. 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep 24 06:11:55 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:11:55 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
Message-ID: <46c.7bab0d00.3247de1b@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/23/2006 2:26:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
pml1 at bigpond.net.au writes:

Patrick,

Enjoyed looking at all the photos.  Some very nice International engines 
there.  

Thanks,


Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Sep 24 06:12:18 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:12:18 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
In-Reply-To: <005f01c6df0a$ce69b920$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Hi Dave,
	The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is also
one on this engine:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/

-----Original Message-----


Hi Patrick, Very Nice pictures.
The IHC Tom Thumb
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061005.JPG
is different to the one I owned & I have never seen one before using a
magneto.
It seems to be driven by the belt drive cog! Were these fitted by the Oz
importer?
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Sep 24 06:15:02 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:15:02 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Winch
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV14110EC03EA0E3908A50DEBB270@phx.gbl>

  A while back, a certain winch maker made a thread. It wasn't Warn.  Anyone 
have the name/web address for that winch?  If I remember right, it was quite 
popular with the SEL folks.

  TIA,
RickinMt. 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep 24 06:41:53 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:41:53 EDT
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work
Message-ID: <32f.bcb3756.3247e521@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/24/2006 9:35:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes:

<< Although the site is primarily for folks looking for help with learning 
Autobody Work and Painting >>


Paul,

Thinking about fixing up your wrecked truck yourself?

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From don.h at wcoil.com  Sun Sep 24 08:01:11 2006
From: don.h at wcoil.com (don.)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:01:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work
References: <011f01c6df7c$0070a980$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000a01c6dfea$45fda570$6500a8c0@PREFERREB23498>

Its up right now I just joined  nice site..will be very helpful
tnx
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: "Howard Holland" <howardsautobody at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: [SEL] New Forum for Painting and Autobody Work


Folks I just wanted to give all of you a heads up on a new free forum that 
just became active this week, it is not on the worldwide web yet but I am 
told by Howard it will be by this coming week.

Although the site is primarily for folks looking for help with learning 
Autobody Work and Painting it has a miscellaneous tab that you can go to and 
Howard will help you with any questions you may have on preparing and 
painting sheetmetal, iron, plastic, etc.  You can also discuss tools, 
methods, or just about anything else that relates to working and preparing 
metal to acquire great finishes. Howard promotes what he calls Howard's 
Backyard Auto Body training. He is a professional paint and body man who 
loves to share his knowledge with others and he has assured me he would love 
to hear from all of the old engine collectors if you need advice on 
preparing and painting metal to include our old iron. He is a super nice guy 
and you will love his earthly and down home approach to low cost body and 
metal work.

The forum is brand new, just came on the web this last week so go and visit 
the site, register, and become part of what I think will be a new and 
exciting forum that can help some of us in the hobby. Here is the URL 
address:

http://www.howardsbackyardautobody.com/phpBB2/index.php

Paul
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From shop at cccomm.net  Sun Sep 24 08:26:45 2006
From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:26:45 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Winch
References: <BAY109-DAV14110EC03EA0E3908A50DEBB270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <015801c6dfed$d8750a30$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>

What I recall is Harbor Freight's Chigaco Brand electric winch. I bought the 
9000lb model and love it.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "sel" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: [SEL] Winch


>  A while back, a certain winch maker made a thread. It wasn't Warn. 
> Anyone have the name/web address for that winch?  If I remember right, it 
> was quite popular with the SEL folks.
>
>  TIA,
> RickinMt.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sun Sep 24 08:27:13 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:27:13 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <006c01c6dfed$ea8d9bb0$3ac10b52@no1>

Thanks Patrick. Looking at that it looks like the magneto is
fitted in place of the slow speed drive pulley.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Hi Dave,
> The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
> little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
> actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is also
> one on this engine:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> 
> Hi Patrick, Very Nice pictures.
> The IHC Tom Thumb
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061005.JPG
> is different to the one I owned & I have never seen one before using a
> magneto.
> It seems to be driven by the belt drive cog! Were these fitted by the Oz
> importer?
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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> 
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From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun Sep 24 09:34:01 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:34:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
	<003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>

Not really. B.A. is British Association. A standard for small threads, 
below about 1/4". Dates back to the 1800s, but the dimensions are 
actually metric-based. The thread profile is much narrower than 
Whitworth. Details are online on a bunch of sites, some of which have 
already been cited.

Interestingly enough, the small screws on Mauser rifles are B.A., and 
the big threads on the barrel are Whitworth. The original machine tools 
Mauser Werke used came from England, and all subsequent Mauser 
licensees have stuck with the English thread standards.

If anyone needs any B.A. #1 x 1" cheesehead screws or hex nuts, let me 
know. I had to order a pretty good bunch from 
http://britishfasteners.com/ to meet their minimum order when I tore up 
the funny looking round, slotted nut on the barrel band of my 
Czech-built M98/29 Persian Mauser.

John

On Sep 24, 2006, at 8:12 AM, John Hall wrote:

> Try this site anytime you run into oddball threads---I use them at 
> work quite often.
> www.marylandmetrics.com
>
> Am I correct that BA threads are the same as Whitworth?
>
> John Hall


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun Sep 24 09:37:45 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:37:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
	<003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <42e8e84d5e2e1023a0ef1d4646637b0e@chartertn.net>

Here's yet another page on B.A. screws, with data and a bit of history:
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/bathrd.htm

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Sun Sep 24 09:56:28 2006
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:56:28 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<006c01c6dfed$ea8d9bb0$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <000301c6dffa$621a32e0$3ac10b52@no1>



> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
>> little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
>> actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is also
>> one on this engine:
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG
>> Patrick M Livingstone

> Thanks Patrick. Looking at that it looks like the magneto is
> fitted in place of the slow speed drive pulley.

Just to show what I was on about see 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2938401560028520097LQXbfx
Then look at the drawing on the next picture. (It will enlarge)

> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Sun Sep 24 10:36:55 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:36:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
In-Reply-To: <10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER>
	<003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <45d211bf52a2c69c83f7377d18c47652@chartertn.net>

If you squint real hard and look right by my left thumb in this 
picture, you can see that B.A. #1 screw and nut:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeWithPersian.jpg

:-D

John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep 24 15:55:16 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:55:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060924131204.BEGM11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML><006c01c6dfed$ea8d9bb0$3ac10b52@no1>
	<000301c6dffa$621a32e0$3ac10b52@no1>
Message-ID: <002101c6e02c$81311c20$ecf1ecdc@domain.invalid>

Hi all.This is normally how it goes.The IHC 1HP TITAN came with low tension
battery ignition.Optional set ups were offered by IHC.They were: Mag bkt on
bearing cap with an idler gear and Sumpter Jr mag.Same again but with Slow
speed pulley between mag and crank.(my engine has this set up) or Just slow
speed pulley drive and no mag. They also offered a Webster set up but I have
never seen one only in a catalogue that I have. The TOM THUMB was normally
High tension battery buzz coil ignition.IHC didn't give any other option
except for the low speed pulley set up.My TOM THUMB had a mag bkt of a TITAN
put on it and it seems this was done by another restorer and was nor
original.All the other TOM THUMBS I have seen with a mag bkt have had this
done to them by the same restorer here in OZ.This option was not offered by
IHC in any of there catalogues and does not show up in any of there parts
books.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
> >
> >> Hi Dave,
> >> The magneto bracket seems to be a fairly common accessory on the
> >> little IHCs here in Oz. It is a genuine IHC part and (from memory) is
> >> actually a different bearing cap with the bracket cast on it. There is
also
> >> one on this engine:
> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc06/cc061003.JPG
> >> Patrick M Livingstone
>
> > Thanks Patrick. Looking at that it looks like the magneto is
> > fitted in place of the slow speed drive pulley.
>
> Just to show what I was on about see
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2938401560028520097LQXbfx
> Then look at the drawing on the next picture. (It will enlarge)
>
> > Dave Croft
> > Warrington
> > http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun Sep 24 16:01:50 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:01:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER><003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61><10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
	<45d211bf52a2c69c83f7377d18c47652@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <002701c6e02d$6c1fa080$ecf1ecdc@domain.invalid>

B.A(British association) is was used in instrument making.I have a full set
of these from when I was into model trains and live steam locos.I still find
them handy as some British built mags use BA.When measured these sizes
measure up metric diameters.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Culp" <johnculp at chartertn.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap


> If you squint real hard and look right by my left thumb in this
> picture, you can see that B.A. #1 screw and nut:
>
> http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeWithPersian.jpg
>
> :-D
>
> John Culp
> Bristol, Tennessee, USA
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From ponchie at ozemail.com.au  Sun Sep 24 00:41:17 2006
From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:41:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics
References: <20060923062551.WHKB15497.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <002001c6dfac$d394c870$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6>

Thanks very much Patrick for the great photo's and a great weekend too. 
Cheers Cam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
"Stationary Engine Mailing List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally Pics


> Finally had a chance to sort through the over 400 pics I took. Some of 
> them
> are on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc061.html
> Enjoy!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>
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> 



From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun Sep 24 16:36:07 2006
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:36:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
In-Reply-To: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
References: <45149BC4.7050401@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20060924192528.02eed540@pop3.wcoil.com>

Sad news it is, Too many gone this year and some with dang close calls too.
I met Mike many years ago at a small show in Millersburg Ohio I think it 
was. It was a short lived show. In those days Mike had the good natured 
nickname of "Yukon" Mike. A funny story that was too the way Mike told it. 
Anyone else remember that nickname?
   I hadn't seen Mike in a couple years at least.
                                               Sincerely,  Mark

At 10:28 PM 9/22/06, you wrote:

>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.
>Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several 
>years.  He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember 
>him and his family in your prayers.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY




From edurand at cybertron.com  Sun Sep 24 19:01:19 2006
From: edurand at cybertron.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:01:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power Plant Update
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609201529350.51070@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBEEDMEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>

Arnie:

Thanks for your encouragement!  We are hoping that they will have new homes before the dead of winter.

Oh, yes - thanks for the link.  I may be putting some photos on my site in the next few days.  I'll let everyone know when they're up.

Take care - Elden
http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Arnie Fero
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 02:33 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Power Plant Update
> 
> 
> Hi Elden,
> 
> Your project sounds a helluva lot like the rescue 
> of three 3-cylinder
> Fairbanks-Morse generator outfits that were in a 
> power station in Long
> Lake, New York.  Check out some of the pics of 
> that project.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/fairbanks
> morse32.html
> 
> Good luck!!  It's worth saving those engines.  
> They are sweet runners and
> definitely crowd pleasers at any showgrounds.
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com 




From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Sun Sep 24 17:53:27 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:53:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap
References: <451586CE.000003.02768@OEMCOMPUTER><003d01c6dfd2$bd4db330$2ef34c0c@D48VHZ61>
	<10a62d6c0fd1474a7a6daa82485f8dc7@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <006e01c6e03d$03c72ed0$07f34c0c@D48VHZ61>

Thanks for the info. It still amazes me the odd ball threads that keep 
coming up. If there aren't enough thread types and sizes already, we have a 
customer that uses really fine pitches and 60 deg form but bastard 
diameters.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Culp" <johnculp at chartertn.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] drill sizes for 7BA clear and 7BA tap


> Not really. B.A. is British Association. A standard for small threads, 
> below about 1/4". Dates back to the 1800s, but the dimensions are actually 
> metric-based. The thread profile is much narrower than Whitworth. Details 
> are online on a bunch of sites, some of which have already been cited.
>
> Interestingly enough, the small screws on Mauser rifles are B.A., and the 
> big threads on the barrel are Whitworth. The original machine tools Mauser 
> Werke used came from England, and all subsequent Mauser licensees have 
> stuck with the English thread standards.
>
> If anyone needs any B.A. #1 x 1" cheesehead screws or hex nuts, let me 
> know. I had to order a pretty good bunch from http://britishfasteners.com/ 
> to meet their minimum order when I tore up the funny looking round, 
> slotted nut on the barrel band of my Czech-built M98/29 Persian Mauser.
>
> John
>
> On Sep 24, 2006, at 8:12 AM, John Hall wrote:
>
>> Try this site anytime you run into oddball threads---I use them at work 
>> quite often.
>> www.marylandmetrics.com
>>
>> Am I correct that BA threads are the same as Whitworth?
>>
>> John Hall
>
>
> John Culp
> Bristol, Tennessee, USA
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From old_iron at msn.com  Sun Sep 24 19:32:09 2006
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:32:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A friend's passing
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20060924192528.02eed540@pop3.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F352ECD9E6A17B04840472BE7240@phx.gbl>

It is often said bad news comes in 3's I hope this is the last for me, first 
my Dad on August 13, then Ted on the August 22 now Mike.

My thoughts and prayers go to Mike's family in their time of sorrow.

Please remember this old celtic saying:

If tears could build a stairway,
and memories a lane,
I would walk right up to heaven
and bring you home again.

Sincerly,
Bill & Peg Pfeiffer


>From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] A friend's passing
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:36:07 -0400
>
>Sad news it is, Too many gone this year and some with dang close calls too.
>I met Mike many years ago at a small show in Millersburg Ohio I think it 
>was. It was a short lived show. In those days Mike had the good natured 
>nickname of "Yukon" Mike. A funny story that was too the way Mike told it. 
>Anyone else remember that nickname?
>   I hadn't seen Mike in a couple years at least.
>                                               Sincerely,  Mark
>
>At 10:28 PM 9/22/06, you wrote:
>
>>I just received word that Mike Smith of Shrieve, OH has passed away.
>>Mike had fought a tough battle with diabetes over the last several years.  
>>He loved old iron and was a good friend to many of us.  Remember him and 
>>his family in your prayers.
>>
>>Tommy Turner
>>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 25 11:41:55 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:41:55 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Wolseley R info & parts needed.
Message-ID: <200609252048406.SM00316@new.databak.co.za>

Hi Guys (especially the Aussies !)
         My 1928 Wolseley R Type is running well and I'm now on the "short 
strokes". Just need a bit of help and info.
         1) Can anyone give me the measurements for the silencer (muffler) 
on a 6 H.P. model?  The smaller version is 127mm diameter and I do not know 
if the 6 H.P. is the same or a larger diameter. I want to fabricate one 
(maybe just a false one as the engine runs very quietly just through a 
piece of 50mm pipe at the moment). If you have one or know of someone who 
has one I could mail a drawing showing which sizes I need. Thanks in advance.
         2) I'm missing the "U" tube on the carburettor. The engine runs 
fine without it as this is just to bring in warm air from the exhaust side 
for the paraffin (Kerosene) and I have actually "disabled" the other parts 
of the carb that have to do with paraffin - it will in future only run on 
petrol (gas to the guys in the States). Purely for the sake of originality 
I'd like to get one - even if I end up hanging it on a chain from the carb 
(it would run too hot for petrol). Alternatively I'd block it off on the 
exhaust side and drill air intake holes in the back of it where they would 
be unseen. If anyone has a spare lying around in a box please let me have a 
price. Remember it is for the 6 H.P. model - I do not know if the smaller 
engines used the same size - a few measurements from me should be able to 
clear it up pretty quickly.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From edurand at cybertron.com  Mon Sep 25 16:23:25 2006
From: edurand at cybertron.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:23:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <200609252048406.SM00316@new.databak.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEENEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>

Group:

Check out the link below for some pix of the power plant we are working on saving.

Take care - Elden

http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand




From johnculp at chartertn.net  Mon Sep 25 15:36:55 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:36:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEENEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBMEENEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
Message-ID: <54f7ba7ea25375d163f924f4e95228a4@chartertn.net>

Man, that's cool stuff!

John

On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Elden DuRand wrote:

> Group:
>
> Check out the link below for some pix of the power plant we are 
> working on saving.
>
> Take care - Elden
>
> http://home.cybertron.com/~edurand


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From wilson at stny.rr.com  Mon Sep 25 17:04:55 2006
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:04:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Winch
In-Reply-To: <015801c6dfed$d8750a30$6501a8c0@YOURA8CFD79427>
Message-ID: <MCENKMDANOEBOLPLHFOOKELCDAAA.wilson@stny.rr.com>

I have purchased two Ramsey winches.
The second one hasn't been mounted yet.
The first one was a 2X2 mount, 5000 pound that I loved too - but it broke.

A friend told me he thought Warn was the best but he has seen lots of
broken Warn winches too.

I wouldn't have thought Chicago would be the best brand, but hey, Dave
loves his and it is still working...
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Dave Ernst
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:27 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Winch


What I recall is Harbor Freight's Chigaco Brand electric winch. I bought the
9000lb model and love it.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: "sel" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: [SEL] Winch


>  A while back, a certain winch maker made a thread. It wasn't Warn.
> Anyone have the name/web address for that winch?  If I remember right, it
> was quite popular with the SEL folks.
>
>  TIA,
> RickinMt.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>

_______________________________________________
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From edurand at cybertron.com  Mon Sep 25 21:48:25 2006
From: edurand at cybertron.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:48:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <54f7ba7ea25375d163f924f4e95228a4@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEFEEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>

John:

Heavy, too!

How 'ya a-doin'?  Did you ever finish your 10 kilowatt guitfiddle amplifier?

Take care - Elden

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of John Culp
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 05:37 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
> 
> 
> Man, that's cool stuff!
> 
> John




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 25 18:46:13 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:46:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
Message-ID: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>

Can some send me Bill and Peg Pfeiffer's e-mail address?

Thanks


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Tue Sep 26 04:32:37 2006
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:32:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
References: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001501c6e15f$77911f60$6a9decdc@morris>

There you go

"William J Pfeiffer Sr" <old_iron at msn.com>


Kerry


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 26 05:04:55 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:04:55 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
References: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>
	<001501c6e15f$77911f60$6a9decdc@morris>
Message-ID: <002601c6e163$fb8d6f40$240110ac@FAMILY>

Got it from Dave Croft Kerry, thank so much for responding for me.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address


> There you go
> 
> "William J Pfeiffer Sr" <old_iron at msn.com>
> 
> 
> Kerry
> _______________________________________________




From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Sep 26 11:32:47 2006
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:32:47 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
Message-ID: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>

At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done another webpage about ploughing!
Earlier this month was a great steam ploughing event not far from us, with 13 sets of steam ploughs at work for the weekend.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/rempstone/rempstone.htm
In honour of this event, I was absolutely determined to learn to use our video camera AND download the resulting film to the PC, edit it and cut it to DVD.  This learning process in itself took a couple of weeks, mainly because Sony software is dreadful and the instruction manual neglets to point out that, while a USB cable is fine for a basic camera-PC connection, the only way to maintain quality is to use Firewire.  In the end, I worked it all out and the resulting film has been edited but, at 5GB for 30 mins of DVD quality, I can't currently find a way to make it widely shared, so if anyone has any ideas ...

Dolly
--
Jim French
fbi at insulate.co.uk
http://www.insulate.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 26 14:46:11 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:46:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Power plant adoption project
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEFEEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEFEEMAA.edurand@cybertron.com>
Message-ID: <51c443fb73fa68b2081d5fe690e95945@chartertn.net>

Not really. It's still at a stage where I need to make some revisions. 
Works, but not quite right. I've got another design on paper and all 
the parts to build that, too, but it's sitting upstairs. I've been 
pretty heavily into the guns, handloading and shooting lately. I cycle 
around among various interests.

John

On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:48 AM, Elden DuRand wrote:

> John:
>
> Heavy, too!
>
> How 'ya a-doin'?  Did you ever finish your 10 kilowatt guitfiddle 
> amplifier?
>
> Take care - Elden


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From johnculp at chartertn.net  Tue Sep 26 14:47:40 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:47:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>

Where IS that axe handle when it's needed?

John

On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Jim French wrote:

> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done 
> another webpage about ploughing!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com  Tue Sep 26 14:54:37 2006
From: BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com (Barry  Gorman)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:54:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address
References: <004201c6e10d$8d711260$240110ac@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <001c01c6e1b6$5c53c890$0100000a@userd6162315ba>


            Barry Gorman
    Hunter Valley NSW  AUSTRALIA
  BarryandPamGorman at bigpond.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Maples" <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: [SEL] Need Member's Email Address


The original message contained a virus.  The virus has been cleaned.  You 
may want to notify the sender of the virus. 



From rwenig at telus.net  Tue Sep 26 15:08:47 2006
From: rwenig at telus.net (Rupert Wenig)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:08:47 -0600
Subject: Large file distribution: was Re: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <4519A4EF.3030708@telus.net>

Hello Dolly,
	Another list had the same problem distributing a large file a few years 
ago. How they did it was for the author to send master copies to a 
volunteer in each region. The responsibility of the recipient in each 
region was to advertise the fact that they were making copies and send 
them to who ever wanted a copy in the region. Distribution worked quite 
well but it did take awhile for everyone to get a copy of the disk.

	Reimbursement was voluntary for costs. I don't recall how well the 
reimbursing went as I did much of the swapping by the barter system ( I 
sent a disk to you, you sent a disk on another subject back or to 
someone else). I was one of the volunteers. And, I offer my services 
again if it helps out. A policy has to be set up though so everyone 
knows what is going one.

Rupert

Jim French wrote:
> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done another webpage about ploughing!
> Earlier this month was a great steam ploughing event not far from us, with 13 sets of steam ploughs at work for the weekend.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/rempstone/rempstone.htm
> In honour of this event, I was absolutely determined to learn to use our video camera AND download the resulting film to the PC, edit it and cut it to DVD.  This learning process in itself took a couple of weeks, mainly because Sony software is dreadful and the instruction manual neglets to point out that, while a USB cable is fine for a basic camera-PC connection, the only way to maintain quality is to use Firewire.  In the end, I worked it all out and the resulting film has been edited but, at 5GB for 30 mins of DVD quality, I can't currently find a way to make it widely shared, so if anyone has any ideas ...
> 
> Dolly
> --
> Jim French
> fbi at insulate.co.uk
> http://www.insulate.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

-- 
--
yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	
		
http://www3.telus.net/public/rwenig/


From curt at imc-group.com  Tue Sep 26 15:22:15 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:22:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2006 pictures.....finally!
Message-ID: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>

Hi folks,
It took me a little while, but I've finally gotten some pictures up from 
Portland '06.
Can you find the two sleeping engine folks? One gal, one fella.
Hope you enjoy.....
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC
P.S. Devin took the pictures of Mel and of Arnie's Bessemer at night.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Portland2006/Thumbnails.html 



From bill at antique-engines.com  Wed Sep 27 05:30:55 2006
From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:30:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
Message-ID: <1955.165.206.180.19.1159360255.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>

5gig is a bit huge for 30 minutes even at "DVD quality". If that were the
case, then no 1 hour movie could fit onto a standard DVD.
My recordings at "DVD quality" show more like 1.5 gig for 1 hour.
Makes sense since you can get a 120+ minute high-definition movie on a
single layer of a DVD.
You can only get a file size of 4.38 gig on a standard DVD, so 30 minutes
at a 5 gig file is a bit overkill.
Typically, to record to DVD, you can get daything up to 6 hours or more 
depending on the quality you need.

As a rough rule of thumb for various frame sizes (assuming a good MPEG
encoder):

Using 720 x 576/480 ('D1'), up to 2 hours at good > very good quality, up
to 3 hours for average quality.

Using 352 x 576/480 ('half D1'), up to 4 hours at good > average quality
(the pictures will be softer overall due to the reduced horizontal
resolution).
So for very good quality, 30 minutes should take no more than about 1gig.
I record at about 60 minutes to 1.2 gig or so. And on our high-def TV,
it's quite good.

Bill

> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done another
> webpage about ploughing!
> Earlier this month was a great steam ploughing event not far from us, with
> 13 sets of steam ploughs at work for the weekend.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/rempstone/rempstone.htm
> In honour of this event, I was absolutely determined to learn to use our
> video camera AND download the resulting film to the PC, edit it and cut it
> to DVD.  This learning process in itself took a couple of weeks, mainly
> because Sony software is dreadful and the instruction manual neglets to
> point out that, while a USB cable is fine for a basic camera-PC
> connection, the only way to maintain quality is to use Firewire.  In the
> end, I worked it all out and the resulting film has been edited but, at
> 5GB for 30 mins of DVD quality, I can't currently find a way to make it
> widely shared, so if anyone has any ideas ...
>
> Dolly
> --
> Jim French
> fbi at insulate.co.uk
> http://www.insulate.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rskinner at rustyiron.com  Wed Sep 27 06:05:54 2006
From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:05:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> HUGE movie files
Message-ID: <C13FC542.33A9%rskinner@rustyiron.com>

Hi Dolly,
This morning I received an email approving my request for YouTube?s Director
Program.  It took about twelve hours.  Clearly, they have no standards.
They?ll believe anything you tell them.

You don?t need to be a director to upload videos under 10 minutes, but for
your huge video, you?ll need the Director?s account.  It?s all free.


The quality isn?t all that bad for what you get and the downloads are
speedy. 

Check it out.  
http://www.youtube.com/group/engines



     
 
     Rob Skinner
     1721 Brookdale Avenue  ?  La Habra, CA 90631  ?  562.694.2301
     rskinner at rustyiron.com  ?  http://www.rustyiron.com











From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Wed Sep 27 07:08:11 2006
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:08:11 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<1955.165.206.180.19.1159360255.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com>
Message-ID: <004001c6e23e$5e25e7b0$0200a8c0@fbi>

Hey, Bill - This is a BIG improvement.  When I first started playing around 
with the video, they were coming up at 60GB and the quality was dreadful!

Dolly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill at antique-engines.com>


> 5gig is a bit huge for 30 minutes even at "DVD quality". If that were the
> case, then no 1 hour movie could fit onto a standard DVD.



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 27 07:12:03 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:12:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi John,

Ask and ye shall receive.  Here's the "baseline" measurement that we did
at Portland in 2003.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/axhandle1.jpg

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, John Culp wrote:

> Where IS that axe handle when it's needed?
>
> On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Dolly French wrote:
>
> > At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done
> > another webpage about ploughing!



From d.fleming at sasktel.net  Wed Sep 27 08:33:54 2006
From: d.fleming at sasktel.net (Don & Kay Fleming)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:33:54 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
Message-ID: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>

Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a 
reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to attend.

Don Fleming
Kipling, Sk. Canada
<d.fleming at sasktel.net>



> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ml] Auction - wow!
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:14:45 -0600
> From: Russ Kepler <russ at kepler-eng.com>
> Reply-To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
> To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
>
> http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>
>
> 



From curt at imc-group.com  Wed Sep 27 10:38:03 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:38:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland 2006
	pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem>
References: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>
	<003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem>
Message-ID: <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>

Clem,
I added the names of what I knew to the thumbnail's page. Hope this 
helps some.
Turns out there were 3 pictures of sleeping listers.....did you see the 
picture of Jim Dunmeyer?
Curt
http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Portland2006/Thumbnails.html

Clem Davidson (Johannesburg RSA) wrote:

> Curt - fascinating pics! You must have had a LOT of fun.
> Any chance of your compiling an Index so that we (I) might know what 
> it is that appears in the shot?
> #177 looks as if the governor is tensioned with rubber bands? !!
> Regards,
> Clem.
>
> Clem Davidson
> Johannesburg South Africa
>



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 27 10:19:08 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland 2006
	pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
References: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>
	<003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem>
	<451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271317020.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hi Curt,

> Turns out there were 3 pictures of sleeping listers.....did you see the
> picture of Jim Dunmeyer?

There are more pics of "sleeping listers" if you'd care to add 'em.  Let
me know and I'll send 'em to you.  BTW, Mel's thumbnail doesn't connect to
her pic.

See ya,  Arnie




From swebre at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 11:02:03 2006
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:02:03 +0000
Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
In-Reply-To: <200609271600.k8RG04Xl022526@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F259AC002B8FA9C3C7802FDB1A0@phx.gbl>


>Hi folks,
>It took me a little while, but I've finally gotten some pictures up from 
>Portland '06.
>Can you find the two sleeping engine folks? One gal, one fella.
>Hope you enjoy.....
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
>P.S. Devin took the pictures of Mel and of Arnie's Bessemer at night.

Curt,

LOL!

Hmmmm.  Nice try on shucking the blame, but Devin didn't MAKE you post that 
picture...

You better bring a wide brim hat and a first aid kit to Portland next year.  
When my Lovely gets done w/ you, that knot on your forehead will be hard to 
hide!

-Steve-

PS - She won't forget....




From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 11:40:22 2006
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:40:22 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland
	2006pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271317020.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY105-F215F4C049D948C8BE852FFC81A0@phx.gbl>

Try hitting refresh/reload Arnie. The old engine web pages have been loading 
different pictures than they are supposed to lately.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA

P.S. Great pictures Curt!! I've still got to get my Portland pictures 
loaded. Maybe after I get my new engine off my trailer. A 15 hp Reid.
==========================

>From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>
>Hi Curt,
>
>BTW, Mel's thumbnail doesn't connect to her pic.
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>




From oldironnut at alltel.net  Wed Sep 27 12:10:47 2006
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:10:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Re: Question for Curt - Re: Portland 2006 pictures.....finally!
In-Reply-To: <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
References: <4519A817.5010705@imc-group.com>
	<003601c6e1f8$86f3c720$bde5fea9@Clem> <451AB6FB.8030208@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <p06230900c1407a724fb2@[172.21.24.99]>

>>#177 looks as if the governor is tensioned with rubber bands? !!

Clem,

I'll fess up to owning the Famous with rubber bands tensioning the 
governor!  The engine, a 1907 IHC Famous sold as an Osborne, is 
mounted on a buzz saw rig and I had only finished putting the saw rig 
back together and getting it belted up the week before Portland.  The 
springs that I had on the governor were a good tension for running 
the engine slow but I didn't have time to try a handful of springs to 
find the right combination of springs to run fast enough to saw.  So, 
rubber bands were called into action and they did their job, they 
didn't look very pretty but they did their job :-)!

See ya',
Mike
-- 
_____________________
Mike Tucker
Midway, Kentucky, USA
_____________________


From curt at imc-group.com  Wed Sep 27 12:53:37 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:53:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F259AC002B8FA9C3C7802FDB1A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY104-F259AC002B8FA9C3C7802FDB1A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <451AD6C1.9080406@imc-group.com>

I can hear Jen laughing right now, just as if she was standing beside me!
Curt

>
> Curt,
>
> LOL!
>
> Hmmmm.  Nice try on shucking the blame, but Devin didn't MAKE you post 
> that picture...
>
> You better bring a wide brim hat and a first aid kit to Portland next 
> year.  When my Lovely gets done w/ you, that knot on your forehead 
> will be hard to hide!
>
> -Steve-
>
> PS - She won't forget....
>
>



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep 27 14:05:50 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:05:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
References: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>
Message-ID: <001b01c6e278$b69419f0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>

Wish I could get to this auction.I have visited with the vendor and seen his 
collection when in the US in 1996.Many of these engines were restored by our 
late friend Tedd Brookover and are state of the art.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don & Kay Fleming" <d.fleming at sasktel.net>
To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:33 AM
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]


> Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a 
> reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to 
> attend.
>
> Don Fleming
> Kipling, Sk. Canada
> <d.fleming at sasktel.net>
>
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [ml] Auction - wow!
>> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:14:45 -0600
>> From: Russ Kepler <russ at kepler-eng.com>
>> Reply-To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
>> To: modeleng-list at kepler-eng.com
>>
>> http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From johnculp at chartertn.net  Wed Sep 27 15:37:56 2006
From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:37:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <34e944a31ee748cb8a93624b18d0eb9d@chartertn.net>

Yeah, but that was 3 years ago! You don't suppose that axe handle's 
shrunk any in the interim, do you?

John

On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Ask and ye shall receive.  Here's the "baseline" measurement that we 
> did
> at Portland in 2003.
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/axhandle1.jpg
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, John Culp wrote:
>
>> Where IS that axe handle when it's needed?
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Dolly French wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of having my ass-width called into question, I've done
>>> another webpage about ploughing!


John Culp
Bristol, Tennessee, USA


From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 27 17:08:27 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:08:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Looking for Bill Pfiffer
Message-ID: <00a801c6e292$3939f500$240110ac@FAMILY>

Anyone heard from Peg or Bill Pfeiffer lately. I sent them an e-mail a couple of days ago and have not heard back from them.

Paul



From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 27 20:39:15 2006
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:39:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
In-Reply-To: <200609271600.k8RG04Xc022527@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <BAY126-F3971EE9F3966E118B5C0A8CB1B0@phx.gbl>

>>Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a
reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to attend.

>>Don Fleming
>>Kipling, Sk. Canada
><d.fleming at sasktel.net>

>http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>

As you can see from the pictures, Ray has an excellent eye for choosing his 
toys.  Most of Ray's engines are museum quality restorations.  You will 
likely see things there you've not seen before.

I haven't been active in MoKan Antique Power Association for a couple of 
years, but Ray is/was the president of the club for some  years, and 
graciously provides/provided the meeting place.  If you are within range, 
this will be  fine auction.

Probably Tim Christoff can provide more info if anyone needs it.


Bruce Younger
05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
Madison, SD
sluggo54 at hotmail.com

"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
thereafter."
E. Hemingway




From garyepps at fidnet.com  Wed Sep 27 22:33:52 2006
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:33:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
References: <BAY126-F3971EE9F3966E118B5C0A8CB1B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701c6e2bf$b17d07f0$4e83fb40@gary>

When visiting Ray's collection several years ago with Ted Brookover, Ted 
pointed out several of Ray's engines that he (Ted) had restored for Ray.

Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Younger" <sluggo54 at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction


>>>Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a
> reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to 
> attend.
>
>>>Don Fleming
>>>Kipling, Sk. Canada
>><d.fleming at sasktel.net>
>
>>http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>>
>
> As you can see from the pictures, Ray has an excellent eye for choosing 
> his toys.  Most of Ray's engines are museum quality restorations.  You 
> will likely see things there you've not seen before.
>
> I haven't been active in MoKan Antique Power Association for a couple of 
> years, but Ray is/was the president of the club for some  years, and 
> graciously provides/provided the meeting place.  If you are within range, 
> this will be  fine auction.
>
> Probably Tim Christoff can provide more info if anyone needs it.
>
>
> Bruce Younger
> 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
> Madison, SD
> sluggo54 at hotmail.com
>
> "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
> thereafter."
> E. Hemingway
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From garyepps at fidnet.com  Wed Sep 27 23:06:15 2006
From: garyepps at fidnet.com (Gary Epps)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:06:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
References: <BAY126-F3971EE9F3966E118B5C0A8CB1B0@phx.gbl>
	<000701c6e2bf$b17d07f0$4e83fb40@gary>
Message-ID: <005701c6e2c4$36bb4db0$4e83fb40@gary>

Oops! Got in late tonight and started from the top of the mail, newest 
first, and didn't see that Edd Payne made this point earlier.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Epps" <garyepps at fidnet.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ray France Auction


> When visiting Ray's collection several years ago with Ted Brookover, Ted 
> pointed out several of Ray's engines that he (Ted) had restored for Ray.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Younger" <sluggo54 at hotmail.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ray France Auction
>
>
>>>>Here is an interesting looking auction sale for SEL members that live a
>> reasonable driving distance from Kansas City. Too far away for me to 
>> attend.
>>
>>>>Don Fleming
>>>>Kipling, Sk. Canada
>>><d.fleming at sasktel.net>
>>
>>>http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
>>>
>>
>> As you can see from the pictures, Ray has an excellent eye for choosing 
>> his toys.  Most of Ray's engines are museum quality restorations.  You 
>> will likely see things there you've not seen before.
>>
>> I haven't been active in MoKan Antique Power Association for a couple of 
>> years, but Ray is/was the president of the club for some  years, and 
>> graciously provides/provided the meeting place.  If you are within range, 
>> this will be  fine auction.
>>
>> Probably Tim Christoff can provide more info if anyone needs it.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Younger
>> 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
>> Madison, SD
>> sluggo54 at hotmail.com
>>
>> "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted 
>> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
>> thereafter."
>> E. Hemingway
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From oldironnut at alltel.net  Thu Sep 28 05:29:11 2006
From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:29:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
In-Reply-To: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>
References: <002001c6e24a$6ca99c30$93a3c5d8@2S4KN5K0H3>
Message-ID: <p06230900c1416ff3bfd6@[172.21.24.99]>

http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/

That looks like and amazing collection!  Steve Barr, are you planning 
on going to this?  If not will anyone else be going that would be 
willing to provide a Steve quality auction report complete with 
selling prices?

See ya',
Mike
-- 
_____________________
Mike Tucker
Midway, Kentucky, USA
_____________________


From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Thu Sep 28 07:13:49 2006
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 07:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
In-Reply-To: <p06230900c1416ff3bfd6@[172.21.24.99]>
Message-ID: <20060928141349.72441.qmail@web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike

There is a chance that I will be making the run out there.  I am waiting
on hearing from a fellow collector who is interested in going as well.

Since I will not be going to CPM this fall, I guess this will be the next
best thing...

Steve

--- Mike Tucker <oldironnut at alltel.net> wrote:

>
http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/listings/auction/france_listing/
> 
> That looks like and amazing collection!  Steve Barr, are you planning 
> on going to this?  If not will anyone else be going that would be 
> willing to provide a Steve quality auction report complete with 
> selling prices?
> 
> See ya',
> Mike
> -- 
> _____________________
> Mike Tucker
> Midway, Kentucky, USA
> _____________________
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 28 07:17:49 2006
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Steam Ploughing - Again!
In-Reply-To: <34e944a31ee748cb8a93624b18d0eb9d@chartertn.net>
References: <012401c6e19a$2aca6c00$0200a8c0@fbi>
	<f591daf88d80e09f3511d2d08aabf9c1@chartertn.net>
	<Pine.BSF.4.51.0609271010170.22512@vegeta.city-net.com>
	<34e944a31ee748cb8a93624b18d0eb9d@chartertn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.51.0609281016550.40608@vegeta.city-net.com>

Hey John, want some advice?  Don't go there.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, John Culp wrote:

> Yeah, but that was 3 years ago! You don't suppose that axe handle's
> shrunk any in the interim, do you?
>
> On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> >
> > Ask and ye shall receive.  Here's the "baseline" measurement that we
> > did at Portland in 2003.
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/axhandle1.jpg



From Ratzandcatz at aol.com  Thu Sep 28 12:57:21 2006
From: Ratzandcatz at aol.com (Ratzandcatz at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:57:21 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Fw: [ml] Auction - wow!]
Message-ID: <4c2.93fb88e.324d8321@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/28/2006 5:56:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
oldironnut at alltel.net writes:

Steve  Barr, are you planning 
on going to this?  If not will anyone else be  going that would be 
willing to provide a Steve quality auction report  complete with 
selling prices?



Actually, Nixon Auctioneers does a very good job of posting the sold prices  
on their website.  Interesting to go back and see what items have brought  in 
the past.
Mell
Ratman



From rotigel at alltel.net  Thu Sep 28 17:17:03 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:17:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order to 
pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like 
a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday! 
Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting 
the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie 
will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be 
home and to have the Austral in my drive.
	Dave
PS, Pictures soon
PPS, Life is GOOD!



From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Sep 29 02:56:44 2006
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:56:44 +0000
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <092920060956.3510.451CEDDC000CA75A00000DB6219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com>

Very nice prize Dave.  Are you going to bring your new toy to Baraboo next 
year?
Curt


> Hi All,
> 	Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order 
> to 
> pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
> home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
> was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
> Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like 
> a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday! 
> Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting 
> the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie 
> will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be 
> home and to have the Austral in my drive.
> 	Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From curt at imc-group.com  Fri Sep 29 03:46:09 2006
From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:46:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <451CF971.7010901@imc-group.com>

Dave,
Congratulation on a beautiful, beautiful engine!
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi All,
>     Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in 
> order to pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I 
> got home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile 
> trip! It was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to 
> Kelley and Rob! Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy 
> to start and ran like a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of 
> the morning on Sunday! Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and 
> Kelley taught me re: starting the engine! Jake Faith will be here on 
> Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie will be over on Sunday so that we 
> can "play engine" then. It's good to be home and to have the Austral 
> in my drive.
>     Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Fri Sep 29 04:10:47 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:10:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001901c6e3b7$ea70f730$ecf1ecdc@Edd>

That's great .I am sure you will have a great time playing with your new 
toy.they are one well built engine and go great.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!


> Hi All,
> Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order to 
> pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
> home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
> was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
> Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran 
> like a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on 
> Sunday! Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: 
> starting the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy 
> and Arnie will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's 
> good to be home and to have the Austral in my drive.
> Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 29 04:52:48 2006
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:52:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
	<451CF971.7010901@imc-group.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c6e3bd$c9c84ff0$240110ac@FAMILY>

Hey Dave, a great engine and one that will bring a lot of excitement to the 
hobby. Glad you made it back safely and had a great time.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!


> Dave,
> Congratulation on a beautiful, beautiful engine!
> Curt Holland
> Gastonia, NC
>
> Dave Rotigel wrote:
>
>> 



From BillMil357 at aol.com  Fri Sep 29 05:58:56 2006
From: BillMil357 at aol.com (BillMil357 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:58:56 EDT
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <bdf.4d8f141.324e7290@aol.com>

Hi Dave,
 
That is a sweet looking engine and I know you will enjoy showing it, be  sure 
and bring it to the SIAM show next year so I can see it, show us a picture  
of it on your new trailer, glad you had a safe trip.
 
Bill Miller.



From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Sep 29 06:43:45 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:43:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <20060929.094650.612.2.jlb94@juno.com>

Congrats !!!  Dave.

Very nice engine.
 
Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/     
(_o_)


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Sep 29 07:55:03 2006
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:55:03 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>

On 29/09/06, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>         Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in order to
> pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See:
> http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got
> home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It
> was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob!
> Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like
> a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday!
> Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting
> the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie
> will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be
> home and to have the Austral in my drive.
>         Dave
> PS, Pictures soon
> PPS, Life is GOOD!
>

That is a very nice piece of kit, Dave, and we are very pleased that
you had a safe trip there and back.

It is interesting to see the gradually increasing ownership of oil
engines and diesels in the US hobby, perhaps when you get a minute you
could run through your thoughts behind the purchase of this engine for
us, please?

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel


From oiseming at moscow.com  Fri Sep 29 09:00:11 2006
From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:00:11 -0700
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <200609291600.k8TG0X4k050634@mail-gw.fsr.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:17 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!

Hi All,
	Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in
order to 
pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See: 
http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got 
home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It 
was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob! 
Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like 
a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday! 
Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting 
the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie 
will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be 
home and to have the Austral in my drive.
	Dave
PS, Pictures soon
PPS, Life is GOOD!

~~~~~~~~

Color me green... with jealousy.  ;-)  

That's a mighty fine looking piece of iron, Dave.  Good for you! 

You've got it right:  Life is good.

Best regards, 

Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm
So many projects.  So little time.   






From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Sep 29 16:14:51 2006
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:14:51 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
Message-ID: <000801c6e41d$1334f4e0$4a68e150@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

    Hi Dave ,
                Well done on your trip. Hope to see you and the Austral at either Baraboo or Portland next year.

        Best regards Craig in sunny Scotland

PS; hope you've got plenty of beer if Arnie is going to be playing engine with you


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Sep 29 19:08:50 2006
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:08:50 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>

Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:

Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..

 History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I understood..... 
All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back as I found another 
foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check was in the mail"....to 
this date,Nothing,

  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again

  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!

  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.

  RickinMt.



 



From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Fri Sep 29 19:54:39 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:54:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006801c6e43b$c6013890$05e14044@pengy>

You haven't recieved it yet?  Its en route to you via Priority Mail.  Should 
be there soon.   I've been shipping some patterns back to my customers since 
I won't be doing any more castings for a while.  We had a drunk driver crash 
into the foundry building ( no lie, see 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2116191560033749120bmpnNQ ) and 
the building is unsafe until the wall is repaired.

After losing money for 6 months I had to step back and rethink the foundry 
as well as take a job working in the machine shop next door to try to pay 
off some debts.  Being there from 8 am to 8 pm almost every day doesn't give 
me any time to run to the post office to mail your package out.

I should have shipped it out a bit sooner to you and for the delay I have no 
excuse.  Rest assured it will be in your hands by the beginning of the week.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
To: <stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org>; "sel" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "stationary-engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


> Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
>
> Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
>
> History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
> attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
> pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
> fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
> Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I 
> understood..... All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back 
> as I found another foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check 
> was in the mail"....to this date,Nothing,
>
>  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
>
>  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
>
>  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
>
>  RickinMt.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From page at velocitynet.com.au  Fri Sep 29 20:05:39 2006
From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:05:39 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
	<006801c6e43b$c6013890$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <00c701c6e43d$4f8daa20$fd2ffea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq>

Whoa.  Nasty.

Ron
Canberra

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


> You haven't recieved it yet?  Its en route to you via Priority Mail.
Should
> be there soon.   I've been shipping some patterns back to my customers
since
> I won't be doing any more castings for a while.  We had a drunk driver
crash
> into the foundry building ( no lie, see
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2116191560033749120bmpnNQ ) and
> the building is unsafe until the wall is repaired.
>
> After losing money for 6 months I had to step back and rethink the foundry
> as well as take a job working in the machine shop next door to try to pay
> off some debts.  Being there from 8 am to 8 pm almost every day doesn't
give
> me any time to run to the post office to mail your package out.
>
> I should have shipped it out a bit sooner to you and for the delay I have
no
> excuse.  Rest assured it will be in your hands by the beginning of the
week.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> To: <stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org>; "sel"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "stationary-engine"
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:08 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
>
>
> > Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
> >
> > Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
> >
> > History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man
> > attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a
> > pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be
> > fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship
with
> > Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I
> > understood..... All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer
back
> > as I found another foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check
> > was in the mail"....to this date,Nothing,
> >
> >  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
> >
> >  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
> >
> >  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
> >
> >  RickinMt.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jthall at worldnet.att.net  Fri Sep 29 20:45:53 2006
From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:45:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
Message-ID: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>

I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly what 
kind of material it is and where to buy it?

Feel free to reply off list

John Hall
jthall at worldnet.att.net




From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 29 21:06:20 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:06:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
In-Reply-To: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>
References: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <451DED3C.9090702@scrtc.com>

John,
    Do you know the thickness?  There is a company near me that has a 
tremendous assortment of rubber materials, fuel resistant, high temp 
material, etc.  They are great about simply giving me a piece of their 
scrap material for jobs such as you describe.  If you could give me some 
dimensions (thickness primarily and number of square inches you need), I 
could check with them.  Here is a website.  The office I use is the one 
in Elizabethtown (the area code they have listed is incorrect as its now 
270 instead of 502):

http://www.grplou.com/

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



> I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly 
> what kind of material it is and where to buy it?
>
> Feel free to reply off list
>
> John Hall
> jthall at worldnet.att.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Sep 30 00:04:12 2006
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:04:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
	<006801c6e43b$c6013890$05e14044@pengy>
Message-ID: <000a01c6e45e$a3bc1930$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

I am glad the list has been a medium for sorting out a problem.
Thats one of the good things about it.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at adelphia.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


> You haven't recieved it yet?  Its en route to you via Priority Mail. 
> Should be there soon.   I've been shipping some patterns back to my 
> customers since I won't be doing any more castings for a while.  We had a 
> drunk driver crash into the foundry building ( no lie, see 
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2116191560033749120bmpnNQ ) and 
> the building is unsafe until the wall is repaired.
>
> After losing money for 6 months I had to step back and rethink the foundry 
> as well as take a job working in the machine shop next door to try to pay 
> off some debts.  Being there from 8 am to 8 pm almost every day doesn't 
> give me any time to run to the post office to mail your package out.
>
> I should have shipped it out a bit sooner to you and for the delay I have 
> no excuse.  Rest assured it will be in your hands by the beginning of the 
> week.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> To: <stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org>; "sel" 
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "stationary-engine" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:08 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
>
>
>> Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
>>
>> Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
>>
>> History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
>> attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
>> pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
>> fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
>> Rowlands and he did us good.  After Rick's problems, which I 
>> understood..... All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back 
>> as I found another foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check 
>> was in the mail"....to this date,Nothing,
>>
>>  Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
>>
>>  Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
>>
>>  Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
>>
>>  RickinMt.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Sep 30 00:15:38 2006
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:15:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
References: <009a01c6e442$eebd36b0$e6d04c0c@D48VHZ61>
Message-ID: <001801c6e460$3f89b2e0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Any female contraception facility will be able to supply you with what you 
need !! VBG
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material


>I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly what 
>kind of material it is and where to buy it?
>
> Feel free to reply off list
>
> John Hall
> jthall at worldnet.att.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Sep 29 10:57:39 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:57:39 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Re: The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <200609291600.k8TG052A031764@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060929195349.00ab9e28@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 29/09/2006, you wrote:
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:17:03 -0400
>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net>
>Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
>Hi All,
>         Some of you may remember that I left Wed. (Sept. 20th) for KA in 
> order to
>pick up an 11 HP Austral engine from Rob and Kelley. (See:
>http://engines.rustyiron.com/austral/ronaldsontippettaustral.jpg) I got
>home with the engine this afternoon. In all it was a 5,375 mile trip! It
>was fun, and as a bonus I got to see Reg, in addition to Kelley and Rob!
>Rob was correct when he said that the engine was easy to start and ran like
>a top--we had it running at 68-70 RPM's most of the morning on Sunday!
>Tomorrow I'll see if I remember what Rob and Kelley taught me re: starting
>the engine! Jake Faith will be here on Saturday to see my new toy and Arnie
>will be over on Sunday so that we can "play engine" then. It's good to be
>home and to have the Austral in my drive.
>         Dave
>PS, Pictures soon
>PPS, Life is GOOD!


Congrats Dave,
         Great looking engine - my little Ronnie N would fit quite nicely 
inside the water tank :-)

         I wish you much pleasure from it.

         Good that you got back safely - now Arnie does not need to hold 
that auction !!


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Sep 30 04:20:08 2006
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:20:08 EDT
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
Message-ID: <c6b.135bf2d.324face8@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/29/2006 2:56:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rotigel at alltel.net writes:

<<  It's good to be 
 home and to have the Austral in my drive. >>

Dave,

Glad you had a safe trip and got the new play toy home.  How did the new 
trailer pull?

Tom Schmutz
Concord, Va. USA
Germoamer at aol.com


From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri Sep 29 18:31:15 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:31:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <000801c6e41d$1334f4e0$4a68e150@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
References: <000801c6e41d$1334f4e0$4a68e150@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060929212523.03924178@mail.alltel.net>

At 07:14 PM 9/29/2006, you wrote:
>     Hi Dave ,
>                 Well done on your trip. Hope to see you and the Austral 
> at either Baraboo or Portland next year.
>         Best regards Craig in sunny Scotland
>PS; hope you've got plenty of beer if Arnie is going to be playing engine 
>with you

Hi Craig,
         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any other 
engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off the side 
shaft!
         Dave
PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!



From rotigel at alltel.net  Fri Sep 29 18:24:16 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:24:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
	<6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060929211941.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>


>It is interesting to see the gradually increasing ownership of oil
>engines and diesels in the US hobby, perhaps when you get a minute you
>could run through your thoughts behind the purchase of this engine for
>us, please?
>
>Peter

It was an interesting and laborious thought process that led me to buy this 
particular engine Peter. First, it was for sale. Second, I wanted it. And 
third, I bought it! In all the process took about 6.69 seconds!
         Dave
PS, I love it when a plan comes together!  



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 04:45:20 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:45:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <c6b.135bf2d.324face8@aol.com>
References: <c6b.135bf2d.324face8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930073909.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>


>Dave,
>Glad you had a safe trip and got the new play toy home.  How did the new
>trailer pull?
>Tom Schmutz

Hi Tom,
         The new 10,000 GVW trailer pulled just fine. Most of the time I 
had to try hard to remember that it was "back there!" Additionally I found 
that Steve (the dealer) was real easy to deal with. All in all I'm real 
pleased!
         Dave



From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep 30 05:31:45 2006
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:31:45 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net><6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060929211941.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <001401c6e48c$6491a9e0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>

6.69 SECONDS!!!! WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at alltel.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!


>
>>It is interesting to see the gradually increasing ownership of oil
>>engines and diesels in the US hobby, perhaps when you get a minute you
>>could run through your thoughts behind the purchase of this engine for
>>us, please?
>>
>>Peter
>
> It was an interesting and laborious thought process that led me to buy 
> this particular engine Peter. First, it was for sale. Second, I wanted it. 
> And third, I bought it! In all the process took about 6.69 seconds!
>         Dave
> PS, I love it when a plan comes together!
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Sep 30 05:34:47 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:34:47 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060929212523.03924178@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Congratulations on getting your new toy home safely Dave.
Now you understand why we all love our Australs down here in Oz. Just to
make your eyes pop check out my pictures from the R-T Centenary rally a
couple of years ago. There were close to 300 sideshaft Australs:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc041.html


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----


Hi Craig,
         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any other 
engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off the side 
shaft!
         Dave
PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!





From jlb94 at juno.com  Sat Sep 30 07:08:22 2006
From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L Betz)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:08:22 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
Message-ID: <20060930.102554.1456.0.jlb94@juno.com>

Hi John,

Neoprene Impregnated Nylon

Should be able to get it at any good awning, boat cover, custom tarp mfg.

You'd only need a scrap.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/     
 (_o_)


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep 30 11:46:48 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:46:48 +0200
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <200609301600.k8UG0423020333@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <200609302050218.SM01772@new.databak.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 30/09/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:14:51 +0100
>From: "craig morrison" <benzengines at tiscali.co.uk>
>Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
>Hi Dave ,
>                 Well done on your trip. Hope to see you and the Austral 
> at either Baraboo or Portland next year.
>
>         Best regards Craig in sunny Scotland.


Scotland is SUNNY ???


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep 30 11:55:01 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:55:01 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
In-Reply-To: <200609301600.k8UG0423020333@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060930204936.00ab7a48@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 30/09/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:45:53 -0400
>From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
>
>I need to make a diaphragm for a 2-cycle carb. Anybody know exactly what
>kind of material it is and where to buy it?
>Feel free to reply off list
>John Hall
>jthall at worldnet.att.net


Hi John,
         I'm not trying to be argumentative but is this not what the list 
is all about. Learning stuff!

         Why "off list" for a question like this? I'm sure a lot of guys 
would rather read the replies to a post like this than some of the other 
stuff that gets on to the list - this is actually "engine related".
         I look forward to answers to your question "on list".


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Sep 30 11:58:35 2006
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:58:35 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
In-Reply-To: <200609301600.k8UG0423020333@heavyiron.atis.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060930205656.02855e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 30/09/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:15:38 +1000
>From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Diaphragm material
>
>Any female contraception facility will be able to supply you with what you
>need !! VBG
>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold


Hi Reg,
         Glad to see you are back again - and obviously on top form - the 
trip must have been good!


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Tel. (016) 365-5787
Visit our website for old engines in South Africa.
www.oldengine.org/members/evans  

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From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Sep 30 12:14:10 2006
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:14:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <451EC202.1000305@scrtc.com>

Great photos Patrick.  Thanks for posting them again as I remember you 
showing these to us after the R-T Rally.  You are peaking my interest in 
trying to get one of these.  I have a question for you, why do some of 
the trucks (steel wheeled carts they are on) have cast iron wheels and 
others have flat steel spokes?  Is there some significance for them to 
be one way or the other?  On the one that Dave got, it has the flat 
steel spokes.  On your engine it has the cast iron wheels.  From looking 
at the SN's, it looks like the difference doesn't correspond to the 
dates of manufacture.  Thanks!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


>Congratulations on getting your new toy home safely Dave.
>Now you understand why we all love our Australs down here in Oz. Just to
>make your eyes pop check out my pictures from the R-T Centenary rally a
>couple of years ago. There were close to 300 sideshaft Australs:
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc041.html
>
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>Hi Craig,
>         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
>Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any other 
>engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off the side 
>shaft!
>         Dave
>PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>  
>



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 14:25:47 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:25:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <001401c6e48c$6491a9e0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060928195542.02d15b58@mail.alltel.net>
	<6f6025160609290755j1299c590ycc62c87e780fec43@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.1.2.0.0.20060929211941.01ad0ec0@mail.alltel.net>
	<001401c6e48c$6491a9e0$ecf1ecdc@Edd>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930172330.03a2a2e0@mail.alltel.net>

I had consumed the better part of two six packs that evening and my 
reaction time was much slower than normal!
         Dave

At 08:31 AM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
>6.69 SECONDS!!!! WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG.
>EDD PAYNE
>It was an interesting and laborious thought process that led me to buy 
>this particular engine Peter. First, it was for sale. Second, I wanted it. 
>And third, I bought it! In all the process took about 6.69 seconds!
>>         Dave
>>PS, I love it when a plan comes together!



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Sep 30 16:12:56 2006
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:12:56 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Diaphragm material
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060930205656.02855e90@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00bb01c6e4e5$f7d39480$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b>

Yup, slowly dragging myself back into things.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Diaphragm material


> Hi Reg,
>         Glad to see you are back again - and obviously on top form - the 
> trip must have been good!
> 
> 
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans




From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sat Sep 30 16:28:18 2006
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim and Diane)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:28:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Kohler question
Message-ID: <010f01c6e4e8$1cc69600$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>

I need some information on a Kohler 4 cylinder engine, model IM21A, 1500 
watts, 110 VAC.  In specific I need the details of how the hand crank fits 
into the engine, what are the fine details of the crank support.  I would 
like to email with anybody that has one of these engines and get some 
pictures of what I need.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
jd.kirkes at verizon.net 



From fuller_johnson at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 30 17:16:09 2006
From: fuller_johnson at yahoo.com (Fuller & Johnson)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
In-Reply-To: <BAY109-DAV89143845C4734068E8957BB190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20061001001609.76461.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>

I also would like the bits I sent in Jan back for which I have been trying to get Rick to send for over 60days with no response.  
   
  NICK

Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
  Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:

Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..

History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man 
attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a 
pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be 
fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with 
Rowlands and he did us good. After Rick's problems, which I understood..... 
All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back as I found another 
foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check was in the mail"....to 
this date,Nothing,

Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again

Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!

Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.

RickinMt.





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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 17:27:08 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:27:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <451EC202.1000305@scrtc.com>
References: <20060930123435.MANE22756.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
	<451EC202.1000305@scrtc.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930202152.03b01e68@mail.alltel.net>

Hi Tommy,
         It appears to me that the cast/flat steel spokes difference seems 
to be a matter of engine size. Up to 8 HP have cast wheels. Eleven HP (10 
HP?) and above have flat steel spokes.
         Dave
PS, Clicking on the first picture on page 4 will help you know where I'm 
coming from!

At 03:14 PM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
>Great photos Patrick.  Thanks for posting them again as I remember you 
>showing these to us after the R-T Rally.  You are peaking my interest in 
>trying to get one of these.  I have a question for you, why do some of the 
>trucks (steel wheeled carts they are on) have cast iron wheels and others 
>have flat steel spokes?  Is there some significance for them to be one way 
>or the other?  On the one that Dave got, it has the flat steel spokes.  On 
>your engine it has the cast iron wheels.  From looking at the SN's, it 
>looks like the difference doesn't correspond to the dates of 
>manufacture.  Thanks!
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>>Congratulations on getting your new toy home safely Dave.
>>Now you understand why we all love our Australs down here in Oz. Just to
>>make your eyes pop check out my pictures from the R-T Centenary rally a
>>couple of years ago. There were close to 300 sideshaft Australs:
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc041.html
>>
>>
>>Patrick M Livingstone
>>Leichhardt NSW
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>Hi Craig,
>>         My current plan is to take the Austral to both Baraboo and 
>> Portland in 2007. This damn thing has more "monkey motion" than any 
>> other engine I've ever seen. Five different "things" are actuated off 
>> the side shaft!
>>         Dave
>>PS, Got PLENTY--and it's COLD!
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>>
>
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 30 17:49:00 2006
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:49:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Kohler Governor Question
References: <010f01c6e4e8$1cc69600$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm>
Message-ID: <009f01c6e4f3$62e5efe0$7ea4f504@Ed>


A buddy of mine has a Kohler CV12.5T , Spsec 1252, SN2111610134 and the 
governor does not seem to exert a force on the governor spring.  Thanks to 
this great club, I have TP2339.pdf and carefully followed the governor set 
up instructions, But when we advance the throttle control to take the slack 
out of the spring, the speed wants to run away. I wonder if this particular 
engine has a history of a agovernor failure inside the block. Anybody have 
any experience on this.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ 



From pml1 at bigpond.net.au  Sat Sep 30 18:31:59 2006
From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:31:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930202152.03b01e68@mail.alltel.net>
Message-ID: <20061001013146.QNTD11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>

Dave is mostly right on the flat steel vs cast wheels on Australs. The cast
wheels were only seen on engines up to 8hp but the flat steel wheels were
available as an option on the smaller engines (just to confuse matters). I
would hate to think how much heavier the engines would be if the bigger
engines had the cast wheels.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
-----Original Message-----


Hi Tommy,
         It appears to me that the cast/flat steel spokes difference seems 
to be a matter of engine size. Up to 8 HP have cast wheels. Eleven HP (10 
HP?) and above have flat steel spokes.
         Dave
PS, Clicking on the first picture on page 4 will help you know where I'm 
coming from!





From rowlands1941 at adelphia.net  Sat Sep 30 18:43:30 2006
From: rowlands1941 at adelphia.net (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:43:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands
References: <20061001001609.76461.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <016301c6e4fa$ff7eba10$05e14044@pengy>

I'm now gathering up your parts to be returned. Your package will be shipped 
off once I am sure that I have everything that you sent.

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fuller & Johnson" <fuller_johnson at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Attn: Rick Rowlands


>I also would like the bits I sent in Jan back for which I have been trying 
>to get Rick to send for over 60days with no response.
>
>  NICK
>
> Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
>  Once again MY SINCERE RESPECT FOR THE LIST:
>
> Mr.Rowlands...YOU ARE A "POS"..
>
> History behind this...... Almost a year ago, a very nice young man
> attending Vo-tech in Wash. state, sent me his New Way mixer to use for a
> pattern, which I sent to Rowlands, his answer: "This will be
> fun,".....previously a friend and I had a good working relatiionship with
> Rowlands and he did us good. After Rick's problems, which I 
> understood.....
> All I asked,, many times,, is for the borrowed mixer back as I found 
> another
> foundry..many times Rowlands assurred me: "The check was in the 
> mail"....to
> this date,Nothing,
>
> Rowlands..think "Bi-Polar"..never again
>
> Sorry list..I only hope I didn't burn the young man out!!!
>
> Rick..my phone number is 406 475 3888..days..if ya got the guts.
>
> RickinMt.
>
>
>
>
>
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From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 22:19:06 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:19:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Austral Question
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20061001011301.03b49df0@mail.alltel.net>

Hi All,
	Several engines that I own have more than one place that the water must be 
drained in getting the engine ready for winter. I see only one place on my 
11 HP Austral--the pipe at the bottom coming out of the water tank. 
(Granted, I have not looked that hard!) Is this the only water drain, or am 
I missing another plug (or plugs) that must be opened in order to get ALL 
the water out?
	Dave



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 22:47:23 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:47:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Re: The Austral Has Landed!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060929195349.00ab9e28@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <200609291600.k8TG052A031764@heavyiron.atis.net>
	<5.2.1.1.0.20060929195349.00ab9e28@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20061001013419.03b3bd50@mail.alltel.net>


>Congrats Dave,
>         Great looking engine - my little Ronnie N would fit quite nicely 
> inside the water tank :-)
>         I wish you much pleasure from it.
>         Good that you got back safely - now Arnie does not need to hold 
> that auction !!
>Keep the revs up (or down)
>Jerry Evans

Hi Jerry,
         A question for you (and others who may be familiar with the revs 
on an 11 HP Austral.) My son (Todd) and I ran the engine for about a half 
an hour today. We couldn't get the revs under 100. If we did for one or two 
hits the engine would then stop. When I picked the engine up in KA a week 
ago Rob and Kelley had it running about 70 RPM's. Granted it was 80 degrees 
and sunny in KA and 55 degrees and damp here. However, there was no water 
in the engine (or at least I think there was no water in it--none drained 
from the pipe at the bottom of the water tank) and I would have thought a 
half hours running would have warmed it up sufficiently to get the speed 
down under 100 revs. I had the burner I'm using in place of the lamp on 
both here and in KA the whole time while running the engine. Perhaps it was 
not on high enough here. I'll try more heat tomorrow when Arnie is here and 
see if that helps. I'd like to get it running at 69 revs so that I can 
really call it MY engine!
         Dave



From rotigel at alltel.net  Sat Sep 30 22:08:16 2006
From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:08:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] The austral has landed
In-Reply-To: <20061001013146.QNTD11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060930202152.03b01e68@mail.alltel.net>
	<20061001013146.QNTD11173.omta03ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20061001010516.03ab8b70@mail.alltel.net>

The first picture on p. 4 gave me the clue to all this and indicated 
exactly where I'm coming from on things lately. Click on it to see what I'm 
talking about. See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/rtc044.html
         Dave
PS, The whole set of pictures is GREAT! Thanks for setting them up!


At 09:31 PM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
>Dave is mostly right on the flat steel vs cast wheels on Australs. The cast
>wheels were only seen on engines up to 8hp but the flat steel wheels were
>available as an option on the smaller engines (just to confuse matters). I
>would hate to think how much heavier the engines would be if the bigger
>engines had the cast wheels.
>
>Patrick M Livingstone
>Leichhardt NSW
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>Hi Tommy,
>          It appears to me that the cast/flat steel spokes difference seems
>to be a matter of engine size. Up to 8 HP have cast wheels. Eleven HP (10
>HP?) and above have flat steel spokes.
>          Dave
>PS, Clicking on the first picture on page 4 will help you know where I'm
>coming from!
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel