[SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils

Thu May 4 04:00:21 PDT 2006

It won't be a huge money maker for me but apparently there is a need for a 
moderately priced American made anvil.   Anyways 100 years from now they 
will become collectors items.

The question now seems to be to pick a design for the anvil.  Anyone have 
any thoughts as to what the best design would be?  I don't know anything 
about blacksmithing and wouldn't know what or what not to include in it.

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Works
Makers of Quality iron, steel, ductile iron
and nonferrous castings
249 North Water Avenue
Sharon, PA 16146
330-728-2799
Fax 330-759-1524
www.todengine.org/engineworks.html

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils

> If you can turn out a 250 for $2.00 a pound you WILL sell a BUNCH of
> them. That is just about what used old anvils are bringing in price.
>
> Steve Williams
> Near Cooperstown, New York
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Rowlands" <jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils
>
>
>> I did some research and there is a fellow in the US making steel
> anvils,
>> however I think his prices are a bit on the high side.  How many
> hobbyist
>> blacksmiths can afford to spend $1,450 on a 260 pound anvil, even if
> it is a
>> beautiful piece?
>>
>> http://www.anvils.nimbaforge.com/
>>
>> According to his website he has them poured out of 8640 steel and heat
>> treated to rockwell 50.   I've made 8640 before and a local heat
> treater
>> will have no problem doing the correct treatment.  We could probably
> sell a
>> comparable anvil at a profit for around $500.  However the anvil would
> have
>> the as cast finish except for the face which I could plane on our
> 1880s
>> Putnam planer or 20" G&E shaper.
>>
>> I think Curt is interested in making the pattern for this one. I can't
> pour
>> these with my current furnace however I'm agressively looking for a
> 300
>> pound furnace which would be able to handle this size anvil.
>>
>> Rick Rowlands
>> Tod Engine Works
>> Makers of Quality iron, steel, ductile iron
>> and nonferrous castings
>> 249 North Water Avenue
>> Sharon, PA 16146
>> 330-728-2799
>> Fax 330-759-1524
>> www.todengine.org/engineworks.html
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> generation
>> along.
>>
>>
>> > Not sure what steel it is but it runs about .40 points of carbon
>> > content. The main problem is that the face isn't heat treated evenly
> so
>> > some have soft areas. What kind of money would you be talking and
> how
>> > large could you pour? There is actually a LARGE market for a good
> steel
>> > anvil made in the US.
>> >
>> > Steve Williams
>> > Near Cooperstown, New York
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Rick Rowlands" <jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
>> > To: "The SEL email discussion list"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:23 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> generation
>> > along.
>> >
>> >
>> >> I'll make you one out of real steel (8630 heat treated) once I get
> the
>> >> larger furnace installed.  Who knows what that russian stuff is.
>> >>
>> >> Rick
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
>> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:05 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
>> > generation
>> >> along.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Want a decent anvil for a GOOD price? Wander into Harbor Freight
> and
>> > buy
>> >> > the 110 pound RUSSIAN imported steel anvil they sell. I have two
> of
>> > them
>> >> > and they work  well once you reshape the nose and clean up the
> face.
>> > I
>> >> > do blade smithing on mine and use the other to make "iron" items
> for
>> >> > other folks.
>> >> > I also have a 200 pounder that I found cheap.
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve Williams
>> >> > Near Cooperstown, New York
>> >> >
>> >> > Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
>> >> > Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
>> >> > he'd have become a vegan.
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
>> >> > To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL
> (Oldengine.org)"
>> >> > <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:49 PM
>> >> > Subject: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> generation
>> >> > along.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> We've attended the SIAM show for quite a few years and this is a
>> > show
>> >> >> Devin particularly enjoys in large part because of the
> blacksmith
>> >> > there.
>> >> >> He has been very patient with Devin thru the years as he hung
>> > around
>> >> >> poking the fire and cranking the blower. In time the fellow has
> let
>> >> > him
>> >> >> do more and more and Devin seems to be picking up a strong
> interest
>> > in
>> >> >> this part of the old iron hobby.
>> >> >> For those at Portland in the SEL area last fall, you may recall
>> > Devin
>> >> >> picked up a forge blower. For his birthday last weekend (now a
>> >> > teenager)
>> >> >> we picked up a forge pan from Clayton Ballard that was missing
> all
>> > the
>> >> >> built in blower parts. This was perfect as Devin had a stand
> alone
>> >> >> blower. I made a air entrance and elbow to attach the temporary
>> > hose
>> >> > to
>> >> >> (shop vac hose) and Devin gave it a whirl on Sunday evening.
> Missy
>> > and
>> >> > I
>> >> >> sat and had our afternoon drink (her Scotch, my beer) and
> enjoyed
>> > the
>> >> >> entertainment Devin provided. I took a couple of pictures and
> they
>> > are
>> >> > here:
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbna
>> >> > ils.html>
>> >> >> The little anvil he is using is a tad small, so we may be on the
>> >> > lookout
>> >> >> for a decent sized anvil. Believe we will also set up a little
> area
>> > in
>> >> >> the backyard with a roof for him to 'smith in. He definitely
> needs
>> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> >> further away from the house as the coal smoke will soon soot up
> the
>> >> > side
>> >> >> of the house!
>> >> >> Missy and I are quite encouraged that he is showing interest in
>> > this
>> >> >> even as the teen years are beginning. Kids need something
>> > productive
>> >> >> that keeps them challenged and interested in contrast to all the
>> > other
>> >> >> temptations available to them at this age.
>> >> >> Not many pictures to look at on the link yet, but we hope you
> enjoy
>> >> > them.
>> >> >> Curt & Missy Holland
>> >> >> Gastonia, NC
>> >> >>
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