[SEL] Is a Rare Engine Worth a Case of Good Beer? O.T. Cabin Fever

Wed Mar 8 15:51:43 PST 2006

Reg, Please don't blame this on Cabin Fever.

  Out there in sunny KA he ain't got no good reason to suffer from cabin fever.
  Here after one of the lightest winters that I can think of  we finally got snow for the last couple weeks of February and now it is all mush because it is melting so fast.  I found it amazing how many folks around here were complaining when it finally did give us some snow that stayed on the ground.

  What we see below is a very mixed up set of priorities and a stressed response from a person that will not listen to reason.

  Alan Bowen
  Williamsburg, Michigan

R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
  Huh? Cabin fever has struck again!!! I KNEW it was too good to last! (Sigh)
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger DiRuscio" 
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Is a Rare Engine Worth a Case of Good Beer?

> Arnie I guess I am about over this stationary engine thing. I will try and 
> unsubscribe for a while
> It seems there are those who feel it ok to use this as a forum to raise 
> money for their projects.
> Well I guess thats fine, Im tired of it and will unbind my shorts by 
> unsubscribing for now
> I find your inference insulting also.
> Roger
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnie Fero" 
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
> Cc: "Old Engine" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Is a Rare Engine Worth a Case of Good Beer?
>
>
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> Your post amazes me on so many levels, I'm hard pressed to decide where 
>> to
>> begin. Let's start with the easy part. Don't get your panties in a
>> bunch, this IS a Stationary Engine list, this post IS about a rare
>> stationary engine, that without our help, might end up as a pig iron 
>> ingot
>> on a dockside in Shanghai, China, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YES YOU DO NEED A
>> VACATION!!
>>
>> If you are receiving 350 spam messages per day you NEED to download and
>> use a spam blocker!! My typical spam load is 1 or 2 per day that get
>> through to my Inbox. You should also have a firewall and a virus 
>> checker.
>> Those are all basics for anyone on the net in 2006.
>>
>> Now back to the subject...
>>
>> The Stationary Engine List has a LONG history of involvement in engine
>> rescues. The first major one was the Tod Engine Wrecking Crew. A number
>> of list members got together, donated time, tools, materials, and some
>> money to help save the Tod Engine in Youngstown. There was no personal
>> gain for anyone involved, just a helluva lot of camaraderie, lifelong
>> friendships made, and a wonderful engine saved.
>>
>> There have been other such projects large and small. One memorable event
>> was kicked off by Dave Rotigel. There was a wonderful young man who
>> posted to Harry's SmokStak that he was 14 and was looking to acquire his
>> first stationary engine. He was brutally flamed by a bunch of crusty old
>> farts who were convinced that he was a shill for someone who wanted to
>> steal their precious engines. They probably needed to take vacations 
>> too.
>> Dave took a different approach. He called the lad in question, talked to
>> him, determined that he had genuine interest in old engines. Dave then
>> approached the list, explained the situation, and asked if folks would
>> like to contribute to getting this young man his first stationary engine.
>> Many did, Dave bought him a nice Herc, and the rest is history. The 
>> young
>> man is a solid collector today, a credit to the hobby, and is still on 
>> the
>> list.
>>
>> What Paul and Hazel Evans have accomplished with the Internal Fire Museum
>> in Wales is nothing short of astonishing. Obviously, you have chosen to
>> rant to the list about folks trying to steal from you rather than 
>> actually
>> taking a look at the Museum in question. Do me a personal favor, please?
>> Stop reading here, and go have a look.
>> http://www.internalfire.com/
>>
>> If after checking out the museum, you still feel that I'm in some way
>> trying to "steal from you" when I encourage you to make a
>> contribution to saving a big old stationary engine, please let me know 
>> and
>> I'll issue you a public on-list apology.
>>
>> If, on the other hand, you happen to agree with me that the Internal Fire
>> Museum is a pretty amazing place and that the world-wide Stationary
>> Engine List would be better off with that Ruston 11HE Diesel as a
>> running exhibit at the Internal Fire Museum rather than a lump of pig 
>> iron
>> in China, would you, in return, commit to making a contribution to help
>> save it? http://www.internalfire.com/donate.php
>>
>> How's that, a fair deal?
>>
>> Oh, and when you book that much needed vacation, consider the British
>> Isles. In addition to the Internal Fire Museum, there's also the Anson
>> Museum http://www.enginemuseum.org/ and many others. There's also one
>> helluva set of engine shows that are worth attending. You can read about
>> a few of them here...
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2000/yank1.htm
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2001/yank1.htm
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2002/yank1.htm
>>
>> See ya, Arnie
>>
>> PS - Don't forget to get a spam blocker. That alone might improve your
>> mood.
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> fero-ah at city-net.com
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Roger DiRuscio wrote:
>>
>>> I had hoped that this was an engine group, Everywhere I turn is someone
>>> asking for money its so tiring. 350 spam message yesterday wanting to
>>> steal from me, now more here sorry guess im tired and need a vacation
>>
>>> Roger

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<DIV><FONT size=3>Reg, Please don't blame this on Cabin Fever.</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3>Out there in sunny KA he ain't got no good reason to suffer from cabin fever.</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3>Here after one of the lightest winters that I can think of  we finally got snow for the last couple weeks of February and now it is all mush because it is melting so fast.  I found it amazing how many folks around here were complaining when it finally did give us some snow that stayed on the ground.</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3>What we see below is a very mixed up set of priorities and a stressed response from a person that will not listen to reason.</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3>Alan Bowen</FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT size=3>Williamsburg, Michigan<BR></FONT><BR><B><I>R & M Ingold <randmingold at hotkey.net.au></I></B
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 wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Huh? Cabin fever has struck again!!! I KNEW it was too good to last! (Sigh)<BR>Reg & Marg Ingold.<BR>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.<BR>randmingold at hotkey.net.au<BR>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Roger DiRuscio" <SOLARROG at PACBELL.NET><BR>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <SEL at LISTS.STATIONARY-ENGINE.COM><BR>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:13 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [SEL] Is a Rare Engine Worth a Case of Good Beer?<BR><BR><BR>> Arnie I guess I am about over this stationary engine thing. I will try and <BR>> unsubscribe for a while<BR>> It seems there are those who feel it ok to use this as a forum to raise <BR>> money for their projects.<BR>> Well I guess thats fine, Im tired of it and will unbind my shorts by <BR>> unsubscribing for now<BR>> I find your inference insulting also.<BR>&g
 t;
 Roger<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Arnie Fero" <FERO_AH at CITY-NET.COM><BR>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <SEL at LISTS.STATIONARY-ENGINE.COM><BR>> Cc: "Old Engine" <STATIONARY-ENGINE at OLDENGINE.ORG><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:01 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Is a Rare Engine Worth a Case of Good Beer?<BR>><BR>><BR>>> Hi Roger,<BR>>><BR>>> Your post amazes me on so many levels, I'm hard pressed to decide where <BR>>> to<BR>>> begin. Let's start with the easy part. Don't get your panties in a<BR>>> bunch, this IS a Stationary Engine list, this post IS about a rare<BR>>> stationary engine, that without our help, might end up as a pig iron <BR>>> ingot<BR>>> on a dockside in Shanghai, China, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YES YOU DO NEED A<BR>>> VACATION!!<BR>>><BR>>> If you are receiving 350 spam messages per day you NEED to download and<BR>>> use a 
 spam
 blocker!! My typical spam load is 1 or 2 per day that get<BR>>> through to my Inbox. You should also have a firewall and a virus <BR>>> checker.<BR>>> Those are all basics for anyone on the net in 2006.<BR>>><BR>>> Now back to the subject...<BR>>><BR>>> The Stationary Engine List has a LONG history of involvement in engine<BR>>> rescues. The first major one was the Tod Engine Wrecking Crew. A number<BR>>> of list members got together, donated time, tools, materials, and some<BR>>> money to help save the Tod Engine in Youngstown. There was no personal<BR>>> gain for anyone involved, just a helluva lot of camaraderie, lifelong<BR>>> friendships made, and a wonderful engine saved.<BR>>><BR>>> There have been other such projects large and small. One memorable event<BR>>> was kicked off by Dave Rotigel. There was a wonderful young man who<BR>>> posted to Harry's SmokStak that he was 14
  and was
 looking to acquire his<BR>>> first stationary engine. He was brutally flamed by a bunch of crusty old<BR>>> farts who were convinced that he was a shill for someone who wanted to<BR>>> steal their precious engines. They probably needed to take vacations <BR>>> too.<BR>>> Dave took a different approach. He called the lad in question, talked to<BR>>> him, determined that he had genuine interest in old engines. Dave then<BR>>> approached the list, explained the situation, and asked if folks would<BR>>> like to contribute to getting this young man his first stationary engine.<BR>>> Many did, Dave bought him a nice Herc, and the rest is history. The <BR>>> young<BR>>> man is a solid collector today, a credit to the hobby, and is still on <BR>>> the<BR>>> list.<BR>>><BR>>> What Paul and Hazel Evans have accomplished with the Internal Fire Museum<BR>>> in Wales is nothing short of astoni
 shing.
 Obviously, you have chosen to<BR>>> rant to the list about folks trying to steal from you rather than <BR>>> actually<BR>>> taking a look at the Museum in question. Do me a personal favor, please?<BR>>> Stop reading here, and go have a look.<BR>>> http://www.internalfire.com/<BR>>><BR>>> If after checking out the museum, you still feel that I'm in some way<BR>>> trying to "steal from you" when I encourage you to make a<BR>>> contribution to saving a big old stationary engine, please let me know <BR>>> and<BR>>> I'll issue you a public on-list apology.<BR>>><BR>>> If, on the other hand, you happen to agree with me that the Internal Fire<BR>>> Museum is a pretty amazing place and that the world-wide Stationary<BR>>> Engine List would be better off with that Ruston 11HE Diesel as a<BR>>> running exhibit at the Internal Fire Museum rather than a lump of pig <BR>>> iron<BR>>&g
 t; in
 China, would you, in return, commit to making a contribution to help<BR>>> save it? http://www.internalfire.com/donate.php<BR>>><BR>>> How's that, a fair deal?<BR>>><BR>>> Oh, and when you book that much needed vacation, consider the British<BR>>> Isles. In addition to the Internal Fire Museum, there's also the Anson<BR>>> Museum http://www.enginemuseum.org/ and many others. There's also one<BR>>> helluva set of engine shows that are worth attending. You can read about<BR>>> a few of them here...<BR>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2000/yank1.htm<BR>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2001/yank1.htm<BR>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/yank2002/yank1.htm<BR>>><BR>>> See ya, Arnie<BR>>><BR>>> PS - Don't forget to get a spam blocker. That alone might improve your<BR>>> mood.<BR>>><BR>>> Arnie Fero<BR>>> Pittsburgh, PA<BR>>&gt
 ;
 fero-ah at city-net.com<BR>>><BR>>> On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Roger DiRuscio wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> I had hoped that this was an engine group, Everywhere I turn is someone<BR>>>> asking for money its so tiring. 350 spam message yesterday wanting to<BR>>>> steal from me, now more here sorry guess im tired and need a vacation<BR>>><BR>>>> Roger<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>
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