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From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Jun 1 03:04:38 2006 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:04:38 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Grease cups Message-ID: <060120061004.6618.447EBBB5000EBE47000019DA219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Looking for a matching set of three grease cups to complete my Sandwich engine restoration. Must be 1/8" pipe thread size and not reproduction ones. thankyou in advance, Curt Andree From pjp at steamengine.com.au Thu Jun 1 03:23:41 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:23:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A request for the Assies: Fuel sprayer needed for a Petter 6hp Message-ID: <447EC02D.4020806@steamengine.com.au> Can anyone help this guy with his parts needs? Please reply to him direct. Regards Paul -------- Original Message -------- Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 23:37:43 +0930 From: Ray Webb Subject: sprayer Hi Paul, Would you know where i can buy a fuel sprayer for Petter 6HP. SType engine. Even parts of a sprayer would be a start.. I have a complete engine fully restored and borrow a sprayer to exhibit my engine. Your`s Ray Webb. -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jun 1 04:29:20 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Ebay Item - CH&E Bilge Pump In-Reply-To: <447E638D.6070207@scrtc.com> References: <447E638D.6070207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I also noticed that one on eBay. I've got one just like it, but on the factory cart. I was pleased to see that it was that grungy yellow color. As I had been working on mine I was pretty sure that it was original paint, but couldn't imagine anyone actually doing that color. 8-)) http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/SE-List-Memb-Eng/Fero/Arnie_New/ I've had it for a few years now and really need to get the work on it finished and get it out to a show. There's a nice article on the restoration of one in GEM. http://www.gasenginemagazine.com/complete-archive/5895 To date, those are the only ones that I've seen. Does anyone know of others? See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com On Wed, 31 May 2006, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Here is a pretty neat set up that's on ebay. The CH&E Engines are hard > to come by and I've never seen one with a direct connected pump outfit. > The item number is: 7624035325 From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 1 05:28:04 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Grease cups In-Reply-To: <060120061004.6618.447EBBB5000EBE47000019DA219792676103010CD2079C080C0 3BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <060120061004.6618.447EBBB5000EBE47000019DA219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <3748.165.206.180.19.1149164884.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Wish I'd known that a week ago....... there was some good deals on grease cups the right size/capacity at Waukee. I bought a few odds and ends for spares. I'm working my way back to the corner to pull my Sandwich out to see if I can get it going for this season. Needs a lot of work, however. Bill > Looking for a matching set of three grease cups to complete my Sandwich > engine > restoration. Must be 1/8" pipe thread size and not reproduction ones. > thankyou in advance, > Curt Andree > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Thu Jun 1 05:56:28 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:56:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] Message-ID: <447EE3FC.7050207@steamengine.com.au> I got this question today in the mail - please reply on list as I think others would be interested in this one. sir, just another confusing question, in some write ups i read people say count the number of teeths on the fly wheel and divide by 360 to get degree per tooth. and in some some write up they say 360 divide by number of teeth to get degree per tooth. in this case i dont know which is the correct one, i will appreciate clarification on this thanks Nathan -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From peter at loud-n-clear.net Thu Jun 1 06:44:43 2006 From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:44:43 +0100 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] In-Reply-To: <447EE3FC.7050207@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <007b01c68581$8a5772a0$8335c53e@doc> 360 degrees divided by number of teeth will give degrees per tooth. Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > Paul Pavlinovich > Sent: 01 June 2006 13:56 > To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] > > I got this question today in the mail - please reply on list > as I think others would be interested in this one. > > > > sir, > just another confusing question, in some write ups i read people say > count the number of teeths on the fly wheel and divide by 360 to get > degree per tooth. and in some some write up they say 360 divide by > number of teeth to get degree per tooth. in this case i dont > know which > is the correct one, i will appreciate clarification on this thanks > Nathan > > -- > > pjp at steamengine.com.au > Emerald, Victoria, Australia > www.steamengine.com.au > Pete -- Peter Scales From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 1 06:51:58 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:51:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ebay Item - CH&E Bilge Pump In-Reply-To: References: <447E638D.6070207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <447EF0FE.7010907@scrtc.com> Arnie, Yeah, I haven't seen many, maybe 2 or 3 in all the shows I've been to through the years. CH&E primarily made units that were mounted under table saws and similar applications. Thats the reason they often have the small heavy flywheels. I would think they could have a few problems with an engine running under a table thats making a lot of sawdust. Evidentily CH&E catered to the construction industry. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi Tommy, > >I also noticed that one on eBay. I've got one just like it, but on the >factory cart. I was pleased to see that it was that grungy yellow color. >As I had been working on mine I was pretty sure that it was original >paint, but couldn't imagine anyone actually doing that color. 8-)) > > From rbackus at ogdenpubs.com Thu Jun 1 11:38:32 2006 From: rbackus at ogdenpubs.com (Richard Backus) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:38:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 In-Reply-To: <200605311600.k4VG051Z022827@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Good points, Arnie. And when I said I think the hobby's peaked, in no way did I meant to imply that it's run out of steam. Hardly, we all know that's not true. I was simply trying to underscore my feeling that, compared to 10 years ago, the hobby is running a different course, and for many of the reasons you've outlined. Your points on the web are particularly relevant, because it has fundamentally changed the landscape. It hasn't made magazines like GEM irrelevant, but as you properly noted magazines like GEM, TOMM and SEM no longer have the priority they once enjoyed, because information is now so much more available. And that's a good thing, in my view, even if it makes life a challenge in other ways. And you're also on target guessing that GEM will evolve to include more internally-generated material. That's a must, but even so, it won't happen without the experienced input of readers, who are the lifeblood of any title, suggesting topics, issues, etc. The small show reports as they appeared in every issue in years back will certainly become a smaller part, as they have already in the past few years. Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire you as our official mouthpiece!! Regards, Richard -- Richard S. Backus Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam Traction 1503 SW 42nd St. Topeka, KS 66609-1265 Phone: 785-274-4383 Fax: 785-274-4305 http://www.ogdenpubs.com http://www.farmcollector.com > From: > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:00:05 -0400 > To: > Subject: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > > I'm not sure that I'd agree that the old engine hobby has peaked. Rather, > I think GEM (and other similar "interest" mags) are feeling the effects of > the net. In the 80's and 90's folks would send you a roll of film with a > brief show report. There would be many of those. Today, folks whip out a > web page show report with words and photos in a matter of hours after > returning from a show. The "news" of the show report gets distributed > world-wide via a number of forums like this one. The timeliness of that > medium is impossible to match with a printed magazine. > > The net has also forever changed the way a lot of old iron is bought and > sold. Engines are advertised on a variety of "Classified Ad" pages or put > up for sale on eBay. > > Finally, the "what is it" or "how do I" types of questions are now posted > and answered in minutes via the net. > > Those three categories alone represent a chunk of displaced content for > GEM (and the other mags). > > My guess is that GEM will evolve to include far more editorial-generated > content and far less of the "this was our local show" or "here's my new > engine" content that was in many of the older issues. > > It may be a bit tricky identifying just what the "new GEM" should look > like and managing the transition in format, but I for one am looking > forward to the "newer and better" GEM. Good luck! > > See ya, Arnie From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 1 13:14:36 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] In-Reply-To: <007b01c68581$8a5772a0$8335c53e@doc> References: <447EE3FC.7050207@steamengine.com.au> <007b01c68581$8a5772a0$8335c53e@doc> Message-ID: <1149.165.206.180.19.1149192876.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Here's the rule: If you have "something per something else", write it this way: something/something else Now say this: something divided by something else. Works for anything. Degrees per tooth = degrees/tooth = 360 divided by number of teeth. Miles per gallon = miles/gallon = miles driven divided by gallons used If you drove 100 miles and used 10 gallons, it's 100 miles per 10 gallons or 100/10 or 10 miles per gallon (100 divided by 10). Bill > 360 degrees divided by number of teeth will give degrees per tooth. > > Regards > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> Paul Pavlinovich >> Sent: 01 June 2006 13:56 >> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org >> Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] >> >> I got this question today in the mail - please reply on list >> as I think others would be interested in this one. >> >> >> >> sir, >> just another confusing question, in some write ups i read people say >> count the number of teeths on the fly wheel and divide by 360 to get >> degree per tooth. and in some some write up they say 360 divide by >> number of teeth to get degree per tooth. in this case i dont >> know which >> is the correct one, i will appreciate clarification on this thanks >> Nathan >> >> -- >> >> pjp at steamengine.com.au >> Emerald, Victoria, Australia >> www.steamengine.com.au >> > Pete > -- > Peter Scales > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mullt at att.net Thu Jun 1 12:09:35 2006 From: mullt at att.net (mullt at att.net) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:09:35 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 Message-ID: <060120061909.3375.447F3B6F00013CC700000D2F21603763169B04049A03@att.net> Perhaps GEM will evolve like many other print publications are these days and have both a print version of the publication and an online version. I wrote a two part technical article for a trade journal a few years ago. They put the first part in the print version of the journal and the second part in the online journal. Tom in St. Louis -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Richard Backus > Good points, Arnie. And when I said I think the hobby's peaked, in no way > did I meant to imply that it's run out of steam. Hardly, we all know that's > not true. I was simply trying to underscore my feeling that, compared to 10 > years ago, the hobby is running a different course, and for many of the > reasons you've outlined. > > Your points on the web are particularly relevant, because it has > fundamentally changed the landscape. It hasn't made magazines like GEM > irrelevant, but as you properly noted magazines like GEM, TOMM and SEM no > longer have the priority they once enjoyed, because information is now so > much more available. And that's a good thing, in my view, even if it makes > life a challenge in other ways. > > And you're also on target guessing that GEM will evolve to include more > internally-generated material. That's a must, but even so, it won't happen > without the experienced input of readers, who are the lifeblood of any > title, suggesting topics, issues, etc. The small show reports as they > appeared in every issue in years back will certainly become a smaller part, > as they have already in the past few years. > > Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire > you as our official mouthpiece!! > Regards, > Richard > -- > Richard S. Backus > Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles > Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam > Traction > 1503 SW 42nd St. > Topeka, KS 66609-1265 > Phone: 785-274-4383 > Fax: 785-274-4305 > http://www.ogdenpubs.com > http://www.farmcollector.com > > > > From: > > Reply-To: > > Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:00:05 -0400 > > To: > > Subject: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > > > > I'm not sure that I'd agree that the old engine hobby has peaked. Rather, > > I think GEM (and other similar "interest" mags) are feeling the effects of > > the net. In the 80's and 90's folks would send you a roll of film with a > > brief show report. There would be many of those. Today, folks whip out a > > web page show report with words and photos in a matter of hours after > > returning from a show. The "news" of the show report gets distributed > > world-wide via a number of forums like this one. The timeliness of that > > medium is impossible to match with a printed magazine. > > > > The net has also forever changed the way a lot of old iron is bought and > > sold. Engines are advertised on a variety of "Classified Ad" pages or put > > up for sale on eBay. > > > > Finally, the "what is it" or "how do I" types of questions are now posted > > and answered in minutes via the net. > > > > Those three categories alone represent a chunk of displaced content for > > GEM (and the other mags). > > > > My guess is that GEM will evolve to include far more editorial-generated > > content and far less of the "this was our local show" or "here's my new > > engine" content that was in many of the older issues. > > > > It may be a bit tricky identifying just what the "new GEM" should look > > like and managing the transition in format, but I for one am looking > > forward to the "newer and better" GEM. Good luck! > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 1 15:12:55 2006 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:12:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] More Rusty Iron Message-ID: <3fb.2f27b93.31b0c067@aol.com> In a message dated 5/31/2006 3:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: << The rod oilers are a neat feature though. >> Thanks Tommy. I have never seen one and learned something new today, something Millie says we should try to do each day! I assume they must be fairly rare and worth a little change when found. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 1 15:31:44 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:31:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] More Rusty Iron In-Reply-To: <3fb.2f27b93.31b0c067@aol.com> References: <3fb.2f27b93.31b0c067@aol.com> Message-ID: <447F6AD0.4090500@scrtc.com> Tom, The rod greasers (either self feed or manual feed) were by far the most popular method to lube the rod bearing. A few used the wick type lube method where there would be a wick either extending from the rod or from a fixed point above the rod. The wick would wipe oil off of a fixed oiler and it would in turn lube the rod. I know that Fairbanks Morse and a couple of other builders used an oil ring where an oiler with a tube attached to the bottom would drip oil into a ring attached to the crank throw. Centrifugal force would make the oil sling to the outside of the ring and it would then travel into the rod (via a drilled hole in the throw) and lube it. Then there were the rod oilers as I mentioned. Tommy Turner Magnolia, Ky >In a message dated 5/31/2006 3:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: > ><< The rod oilers are a neat > feature though. >> > > >Thanks Tommy. I have never seen one and learned something new today, >something Millie says we should try to do each day! I assume they must be fairly >rare and worth a little change when found. > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. USA >Germoamer at aol.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 1 19:30:10 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:30:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200606020230.k522UL5B032299@mail-gw.fsr.net> That might not be a half-bad idea. Arnie has a good head on his shoulders and a knack for putting across his common-sense ideas about a topic, no matter what it is. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Backus Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:39 AM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 Major snip Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire you as our official mouthpiece!! Regards, Richard -- Richard S. Backus Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam Traction 1503 SW 42nd St. Topeka, KS 66609-1265 Phone: 785-274-4383 Fax: 785-274-4305 http://www.ogdenpubs.com http://www.farmcollector.com From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Jun 1 20:10:26 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:10:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Set Up Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601224359.02b44d90@mail.alltel.net> Hi All, I talked to Jake Faith this afternoon about the SEL set up at Coolspring this year. We will be in the same place this year as we have been in years past--2nd row all the way to the end near the trees. We will not be able to park our trucks under the trees this year. Engines will be set up there. Because of that I asked Jake for an additional 30 yds in our row so that everyone could park their truck with their display. I'll be setting the SEL area up on Tues. (June 13th.) There will be an SEL sign at the end of the 2nd row indicating that you need to go to the right to find our area. (Ask Jake where we are if you get lost!) Please fill things in as far down as possible so that if we do not need all the space by Friday we can relinquish some of it and still all be together. Thanks! Dave PS, Next year (2007) you will need proof of insurance to use a but buggy at Coolspring. This year you DO NOT need such proof. From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Jun 1 20:12:55 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:12:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <200606020230.k522UL5B032299@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606020230.k522UL5B032299@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601231057.02bbd898@mail.alltel.net> The problem here is that as a nuke engineer at Westinghouse Arnie makes in the neighborhood of $1,750.00 per hour. I'm not sure that GEM can afford him! Dave At 10:30 PM 6/1/2006, you wrote: >That might not be a half-bad idea. Arnie has a good head on his shoulders >and a knack for putting across his common-sense ideas about a topic, no >matter what it is. > >Best regards, > >Orrin > >Orrin Iseminger >Colton, Washington, USA >http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm >So many projects. So little time. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Backus >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:39 AM >To: SEL >Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > >Major snip > >Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire >you as our official mouthpiece!! >Regards, >Richard >-- >Richard S. Backus >Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles >Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam >Traction >1503 SW 42nd St. >Topeka, KS 66609-1265 >Phone: 785-274-4383 >Fax: 785-274-4305 >http://www.ogdenpubs.com >http://www.farmcollector.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kkinney at herculesengines.com Thu Jun 1 20:49:42 2006 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:49:42 -0000 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Classic Iron In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060531114704.02cdf2c8@mail.alltel.net> References: <4475BD69.7000102@imc-group.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060626120714.0211b378@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060529233945.02c7f910@mail.alltel.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060630222259.0212fe30@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060531114704.02cdf2c8@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060702224837.023dd570@herculesengines.com> Dave What hotel are you staying at? Thanks. Keith At 10:52 AM 5/31/2006, you wrote: >Hi Keith, > GREAT! I have a Witte drag saw also, but I need to have the > WICO rebuilt so I guess that I'll leave that one at home. I don't > know too much about operating a drag saw, but WC (at the Cotton > Ginning Show last year) showed me lots of tips that I can pass > along to you. See you on Thursday the 8th. I should pull in about 5:00/6:00 pm! > Dave >PS, I'm in the market for a Hercules built drag saw. Keep me in mind! > >At 11:24 PM 6/30/2006, you wrote: >>Dave >>Sounds like a great display. Glenn has volunteered to bring you >>some logs. I think I'll try to bring our Economy log saw. We've >>never tried to actually cut a log with it. >>Keith >> >> >> >>At 10:49 PM 5/29/2006, you wrote: >>>Hi Keith, >>> I'll be there and will be bringing an Ottawa Drag saw >>> that I intend to use to make "rounds" about one/two inch thick. >>> What are the chances of someone (that's you, white man) bringing >>> an oak log or two for me to work on. (Or letting me know who to >>> contact in order to obtain such raw material.) I'd need two of >>> them 8 to 10 feet long and 15 to 20 inches (or so) in dia. >>> Dave >>>PS, I was at the Wapakoneta show this weekend and the Ottawa went >>>through a 28 5/8" black oak log in about 10 minutes. I've >>>sharpened the blade for SIAM! >>> >>>At 01:15 PM 6/26/2006, you wrote: >>>>I don't have a source for the cedar logs and your right, the >>>>smell and color are nice. But, this winter dad and I started >>>>clearing a field that had not been cropped for about 15 >>>>years. It had grown up with a bunch of 4-6" trees. We cut them >>>>in 8-12' lengths and set them aside planning on cutting them into >>>>firewood, or disks, at the SIAM show. We have a large pickup >>>>load. With at least 3 saw rigs going we should be able to cut >>>>them into fire wood in about a half hour.:-) With disks and less >>>>aggressive cutting they should last the weekend. >>>> >>>>Who all is planning on coming to SIAM? So far I know of Curt, >>>>Mike, Glenn, Andy and myself. Any others? >>>> >>>>Keith >>>>www.herculesengines.com >>>> >>>>At 09:21 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote: >>>>>Andy Glines wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm not quite sure what you are looking for. We may have >>>>>> some cedar logs for the sawmill. You could saw up the slabs >>>>>> from the cedar logs or any other slabs for that matter. >>>>> >>>>>Andy, >>>>>What I have traditionally done is cut up small cedar trees of 6 >>>>>to 8" in diameter. I cut these wafers about a 1/2" thick. The >>>>>purple heart and great smell of cedar is found neat by most >>>>>spectators. Generally as fast as I can cut these the spectators >>>>>are taking them home with them. >>>>>Eventually I would like to make a Cotton Ginning Days logo brand >>>>>that could be burned into the wafers. I think your blacksmith >>>>>already has done this with a SIAM brand. >>>>>Curt >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>>Keith Kinney >>>>Evansville, Indiana USA >>>>www.HerculesEngines.com >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>Keith Kinney >>Evansville, Indiana USA >>www.HerculesEngines.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney Evansville, Indiana USA www.HerculesEngines.com From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 2 02:53:17 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 05:53:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Set Up References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601224359.02b44d90@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <001501c6862a$5fb4a320$4f704047@pengy> Dave, My wife and I will be at Coolsprings on Thursday but I don't think I'll be advertising my casting services this year. I'm literally swamped with work as it is and don't want to make any promises I can't keep. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Set Up > Hi All, > I talked to Jake Faith this afternoon about the SEL set up at Coolspring > this year. We will be in the same place this year as we have been in years > past--2nd row all the way to the end near the trees. We will not be able > to park our trucks under the trees this year. Engines will be set up > there. Because of that I asked Jake for an additional 30 yds in our row so > that everyone could park their truck with their display. > I'll be setting the SEL area up on Tues. (June 13th.) There will be an SEL > sign at the end of the 2nd row indicating that you need to go to the right > to find our area. (Ask Jake where we are if you get lost!) Please fill > things in as far down as possible so that if we do not need all the space > by Friday we can relinquish some of it and still all be together. Thanks! > Dave > PS, Next year (2007) you will need proof of insurance to use a but buggy > at Coolspring. This year you DO NOT need such proof. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 05:31:31 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:31:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Classic Iron In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060702224837.023dd570@herculesengines.com> References: <4475BD69.7000102@imc-group.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060626120714.0211b378@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060529233945.02c7f910@mail.alltel.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060630222259.0212fe30@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060531114704.02cdf2c8@mail.alltel.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060702224837.023dd570@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060602082650.02bc1ce0@mail.alltel.net> I'm at the Super 8 at 19601 Elpers Road. That's the one at Interstate 64, Exit 25A See: http://www.super8.com/Super8/control/Booking/map?pid=08597&brandInfo=SE&latitude=381465&longitude=-875505&ShowPOIs=N&ClickRecenter=Y&MQZoom=6&url=FDR2dmwjDE%3Bu759f%3AHODc8xnM6bd*VJ%13M%3DTPF3b%2Cbg9wzs%26%3Dyad47s%26%40%24%3A%26%40%24a%26w82%26a72%26MDUV%26FDBBD%7Clr25g4%24.5z8su4%24%3A%26%40%24%3A%26%401sl%40%3AHOOxiwJdvndg%7C%17N%10M&brand_selected=SE Dave At 11:49 PM 7/2/2006, you wrote: >Dave >What hotel are you staying at? >Thanks. >Keith > >At 10:52 AM 5/31/2006, you wrote: >>Hi Keith, >> GREAT! I have a Witte drag saw also, but I need to have the WICO >> rebuilt so I guess that I'll leave that one at home. I don't know too >> much about operating a drag saw, but WC (at the Cotton Ginning Show last >> year) showed me lots of tips that I can pass along to you. See you on >> Thursday the 8th. I should pull in about 5:00/6:00 pm! >> Dave >>PS, I'm in the market for a Hercules built drag saw. Keep me in mind! >> >>At 11:24 PM 6/30/2006, you wrote: >>>Dave >>>Sounds like a great display. Glenn has volunteered to bring you some >>>logs. I think I'll try to bring our Economy log saw. We've never tried >>>to actually cut a log with it. >>>Keith >>> >>> >>> >>>At 10:49 PM 5/29/2006, you wrote: >>>>Hi Keith, >>>> I'll be there and will be bringing an Ottawa Drag saw that I >>>> intend to use to make "rounds" about one/two inch thick. What are the >>>> chances of someone (that's you, white man) bringing an oak log or two >>>> for me to work on. (Or letting me know who to contact in order to >>>> obtain such raw material.) I'd need two of them 8 to 10 feet long and >>>> 15 to 20 inches (or so) in dia. >>>> Dave >>>>PS, I was at the Wapakoneta show this weekend and the Ottawa went >>>>through a 28 5/8" black oak log in about 10 minutes. I've sharpened the >>>>blade for SIAM! >>>> >>>>At 01:15 PM 6/26/2006, you wrote: >>>>>I don't have a source for the cedar logs and your right, the smell and >>>>>color are nice. But, this winter dad and I started clearing a field >>>>>that had not been cropped for about 15 years. It had grown up with a >>>>>bunch of 4-6" trees. We cut them in 8-12' lengths and set them aside >>>>>planning on cutting them into firewood, or disks, at the SIAM >>>>>show. We have a large pickup load. With at least 3 saw rigs going we >>>>>should be able to cut them into fire wood in about a half >>>>>hour.:-) With disks and less aggressive cutting they should last the weekend. >>>>> >>>>>Who all is planning on coming to SIAM? So far I know of Curt, Mike, >>>>>Glenn, Andy and myself. Any others? >>>>> >>>>>Keith >>>>>www.herculesengines.com >>>>> >>>>>At 09:21 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote: >>>>>>Andy Glines wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not quite sure what you are looking for. We may have some >>>>>>> cedar logs for the sawmill. You could saw up the slabs from the >>>>>>> cedar logs or any other slabs for that matter. >>>>>> >>>>>>Andy, >>>>>>What I have traditionally done is cut up small cedar trees of 6 to 8" >>>>>>in diameter. I cut these wafers about a 1/2" thick. The purple heart >>>>>>and great smell of cedar is found neat by most spectators. Generally >>>>>>as fast as I can cut these the spectators are taking them home with them. >>>>>>Eventually I would like to make a Cotton Ginning Days logo brand that >>>>>>could be burned into the wafers. I think your blacksmith already has >>>>>>done this with a SIAM brand. >>>>>>Curt >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>>Keith Kinney >>>>>Evansville, Indiana USA >>>>>www.HerculesEngines.com >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>>Keith Kinney >>>Evansville, Indiana USA >>>www.HerculesEngines.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >Keith Kinney >Evansville, Indiana USA >www.HerculesEngines.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp at steamengine.com.au Fri Jun 2 06:37:27 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:37:27 +1000 Subject: [SEL] The online event calendar is back on my site Steam & Engine of Australia Message-ID: <44803F17.8020503@steamengine.com.au> Some of you may remember the horrible flaky event calendar that was hosted on my site Steam & Engine of Australia which would periodically drop all the events people had entered. To cut a long story short, I got sick of the software available and wrote my own from scratch in 'c' (ok, so I'm old school - I *like* writing my own code :). You can reach it here: http://www.steamengine.com.au/cgi-bin/calendar?db=events If you get a message about the calendar being offline when using the menu - refresh your browser and try again - lots of browsers seem to cache the sites java based menu for ever! The help link won't give you anything useful right now because I've not written it yet. Please don't use the calendar for things like your clubs workdays or regular running days - this is for special events. btw. Thanks heaps to the beta testers who put up with my dodgy code and tested the product to help make it "safe" for the general populace. Thanks also to the couple of very persistent guys who simply would not take "no" for an answer and pushed me into making the product easier to use. Regards Paul -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 2 11:44:31 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:44:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <200606021600.k52G05jH013691@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060602203538.0293b1f8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 02/06/2006, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:37:27 +1000 >From: Paul Pavlinovich >Subject: [SEL] The online event calendar is back on my site Steam & > Engine of Australia > >Some of you may remember the horrible flaky event calendar that was hosted >on my site > >school - I *like* writing my own code :). > >You can reach it here: >http://www.steamengine.com.au/cgi-bin/calendar?db=events > >Regards >Paul Hi Paul, It works great - thanks. I've entered our clubs upcoming show (first weekend - September) and had no problems. Now all we need is for some of you guys on the lists to come and visit :-) You will be made very welcome - the southern hemisphere people are renowned for their hospitality. One possibly improvement would be if you could make it easy to enter multiple dates (for one show). Ours runs for 3 days and I would have to do all that typing again to make it appear on the 3 days on the calendar. As it is I have only entered it for 1 day with a note in the comments that it runs for 3. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From segray at mlode.com Fri Jun 2 13:11:38 2006 From: segray at mlode.com (Steve Gray) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:11:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] What's old might be new again! Message-ID: <44809B7A.4030302@mlode.com> Hi All - Looks like "back starting" engines might be coming back into play! Wonder if they'll consider "Match starting" ?! ;-) http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/mazdas_new_smar.html -- Steve Gray Member EDGE & TA, Br. 13 & 27 Sonora, California USA e-mail: segray at mlode.com Home page: http://www.oldengineshed.com From oiseming at moscow.com Fri Jun 2 12:40:24 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:40:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601231057.02bbd898@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should have been an oil company CEO. :-) Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:13 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM The problem here is that as a nuke engineer at Westinghouse Arnie makes in the neighborhood of $1,750.00 per hour. I'm not sure that GEM can afford him! Dave At 10:30 PM 6/1/2006, you wrote: >That might not be a half-bad idea. Arnie has a good head on his shoulders >and a knack for putting across his common-sense ideas about a topic, no >matter what it is. > >Best regards, > >Orrin > >Orrin Iseminger >Colton, Washington, USA >http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm >So many projects. So little time. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Backus >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:39 AM >To: SEL >Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > >Major snip > >Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire >you as our official mouthpiece!! >Regards, >Richard >-- >Richard S. Backus >Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles >Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam >Traction >1503 SW 42nd St. >Topeka, KS 66609-1265 >Phone: 785-274-4383 >Fax: 785-274-4305 >http://www.ogdenpubs.com >http://www.farmcollector.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ocleveland at cfl.rr.com Fri Jun 2 13:42:57 2006 From: ocleveland at cfl.rr.com (Skip Cleveland) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:42:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] What's old might be new again! References: <44809B7A.4030302@mlode.com> Message-ID: <001c01c68685$21996070$62f6a518@SKIP> Can you FIRE your engine backward to do that? Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gray" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [SEL] What's old might be new again! > Hi All - > > Looks like "back starting" engines might be coming back into play! > Wonder if they'll consider "Match starting" ?! ;-) > > http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/mazdas_new_smar.html > > -- > Steve Gray > Member EDGE & TA, Br. 13 & 27 > Sonora, California USA > e-mail: segray at mlode.com > Home page: http://www.oldengineshed.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jun 2 13:37:04 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: Hi Orrin, That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should have > been an oil company CEO. From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 16:10:31 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 19:10:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060602190838.02c2bcf8@mail.alltel.net> OK Arnie, I'll grant you that $1.4m a year isn't Oil CO CEO salary, but you have to admit that you DO have fun! Dave At 04:37 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >Hi Orrin, > >That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an >engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) > >See ya, Arnie > >On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: > > > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should have > > been an oil company CEO. From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 2 16:14:44 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:14:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <001101c6869a$571f6a40$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM > Hi Orrin, > That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an > engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) > See ya, Arnie Hi Arnie, I thought Engineers were mechanical. Not rubbing electrons together to get a spark! Dave Croft Sorry , just come back from the Pub. http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Jun 2 19:58:40 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:58:40 -0500 Subject: [SEL] water fuel torch? In-Reply-To: <001101c6869a$571f6a40$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <20060603025851.1A0399B424@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/jose14rudy/?action=view¤t=Water Fuel.flv Huh? I have dial-up so can't really watch it. Can anyone view and explain? From rex002 at centurytel.net Fri Jun 2 20:04:26 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:04:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> <6.1.2.0.0.20060602190838.02c2bcf8@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <001501c686ba$6d3ad8d0$6400a8c0@home> If Arnie's a true nuke engineer will he soon have his Half Breed running on rods instead of liquid fuel ? Rex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM > OK Arnie, I'll grant you that $1.4m a year isn't Oil CO CEO salary, but > you have to admit that you DO have fun! > Dave > > At 04:37 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >>Hi Orrin, >> >>That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an >>engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) >> >>See ya, Arnie >> >>On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >> >> > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should >> > have >> > been an oil company CEO. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 21:37:21 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:37:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] water fuel torch? In-Reply-To: <20060603025851.1A0399B424@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> References: <001101c6869a$571f6a40$3ac10b52@no1> <20060603025851.1A0399B424@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060603003533.02aed250@mail.alltel.net> Hi Bill, Looks good to me! I think you had better invest heavely in this product--LOTS better than the Beenie Babies that you went for several years ago! Dave At 10:58 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > >http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/jose14rudy/?action=view¤t=Water >Fuel.flv > >Huh? > >I have dial-up so can't really watch it. >Can anyone view and explain? From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 21:40:28 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:40:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <001501c686ba$6d3ad8d0$6400a8c0@home> References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> <6.1.2.0.0.20060602190838.02c2bcf8@mail.alltel.net> <001501c686ba$6d3ad8d0$6400a8c0@home> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060603003746.02b6ca88@mail.alltel.net> All I know is that he is staying home from SIAM to do "some secret things" to his half breed. When I asked him if he wanted help he said "No, I need to be alone for this procedure." Dave At 11:04 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > If Arnie's a true nuke engineer will he soon have his Half Breed > running on rods instead of liquid fuel ? > >Rex > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:10 PM >Subject: RE: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM > > >>OK Arnie, I'll grant you that $1.4m a year isn't Oil CO CEO salary, but >>you have to admit that you DO have fun! >> Dave >> >>At 04:37 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >>>Hi Orrin, >>> >>>That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an >>>engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) >>> >>>See ya, Arnie >>> >>>On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >>> >>> > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He >>> should > have >>> > been an oil company CEO. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 2 23:53:00 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:53:00 -0700 Subject: [SEL] water fuel torch? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060603003533.02aed250@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <000e01c686da$5ba72130$0201a8c0@robscomputer> >Looks good to me! I think you had better invest > heavely in this product--LOTS better than the > Beenie Babies that you went for several years > ago! I disagree, Dave. This wanker and his stupid assed "invention" are not nearly as useful as beanie babies. It kills me that we Americans are so stupid that this type of nonsense can be broadcast as "news." Rob "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." - Henry Mencken From nick at holden1.net Sat Jun 3 05:51:07 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 13:51:07 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] Battery's References: <20060530110852.YZQB19512.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <448185BB.000001.00572@YOUR-447023AE6B> Hi thanks to all who gave advice Just put a 12 volt on and it started straight away Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden -------Original Message------- From: Patrick M Livingstone Date: 05/30/06 12:15:03 To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: RE: [SEL] Battery's Hi Nick, I use a 12v gel-cell and the low-tension side of an automotive coil on my 1hp R&V and on the 12hp as well. Both run fine but I get much better battery life on the 12hp, probably because it fires a lot less than the little one :) Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Hi Can any one tell me the best size battery AH etc To run my R&V engine on I have just had a new 6 volt on but the spark out of the coil was not very good Have now got the battery on charge to try again I am trying a 6 volt 10 AH is this going to be able to run All weekend on Regards Nick _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 4 21:31:05 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:31:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Message-ID: <20060605043109.923AB9B42D@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that .The indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan From jbcast at charter.net Sun Jun 4 22:33:11 2006 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:33:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Message-ID: <1345648884.1149485591828.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be > sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a > thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable > cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings > didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that .The > indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any > information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 > Jimmy, I use a 4" sleeve, I think it's 10.5". On longer bores I have stopped short of the bottom if the bore is good down there. I made a fixture to hold a dial indicator on the bottom of the boring bar. The bar is mounted on a plate bolted to the cylinder with jack screws on the overhanging portion. The bar can be centered and paralleled, and dialed in to the bottom of the cylinder. I have also added a spacer at the top, the piston never comes this far up, and when bored you can hardly tell it's there. I always leave a lip at the bottom, the sleeve stops against it and the head holds the top. I have some 3/32 X 4" sleeve sections I've saved if you want to add a piece. You're welcome to one. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From plb at iinet.net.au Mon Jun 5 02:01:17 2006 From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 17:01:17 +0800 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC In-Reply-To: <20060605043109.923AB9B42D@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <50v528$f8adm5@iinet-mail.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au> My experience is it might be hard to get a sleeve that long. I have put in two sections and positioned them so's the rings don't go over the join.I machine them so's there is around 4 thou interference. Run one all day today without a problem. Ray Freeman Perth Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 12:31 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that .The indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From brock at netspeed.com.au Mon Jun 5 03:51:38 2006 From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:51:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC References: <1345648884.1149485591828.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: <008701c6888e$05d31150$5f11fea9@merlin> G,day Jim for the last few years i have been getting pre machined Wet sleeves from a local engine rebuilder who has been able to supply from sizes from 4 inch up to 6 inchs with an average lenth of about 10 to 11 inchs i have not hade a problem getting a size just the other day i got a price for a sleeve for a mate the size was 4 inch by 11.5 long it was $120 Au hope that helps regards Brock ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC > ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: >> Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be >> sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a >> thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable >> cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings >> didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that >> .The >> indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any >> information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 >> > Jimmy, I use a 4" sleeve, I think it's 10.5". On longer bores I have > stopped short of the bottom if the bore is good down there. I made a > fixture to hold a dial indicator on the bottom of the boring bar. The bar > is mounted on a plate bolted to the cylinder with jack screws on the > overhanging portion. The bar can be centered and paralleled, and dialed in > to the bottom of the cylinder. I have also added a spacer at the top, the > piston never comes this far up, and when bored you can hardly tell it's > there. I always leave a lip at the bottom, the sleeve stops against it and > the head holds the top. I have some 3/32 X 4" sleeve sections I've saved > if you want to add a piece. You're welcome to one. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plb at iinet.net.au Mon Jun 5 05:19:29 2006 From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:19:29 +0800 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC In-Reply-To: <008701c6888e$05d31150$5f11fea9@merlin> Message-ID: <51ns5e$mnmia3@iinet-mail.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au> Do you know who makes them Brock? I was asked today about boring a 2 stroke Petter which looks to have a fairly long cylinder. Ray Freeman Perth WA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brock Summerfield Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 6:52 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC G,day Jim for the last few years i have been getting pre machined Wet sleeves from a local engine rebuilder who has been able to supply from sizes from 4 inch up to 6 inchs with an average lenth of about 10 to 11 inchs i have not hade a problem getting a size just the other day i got a price for a sleeve for a mate the size was 4 inch by 11.5 long it was $120 Au hope that helps regards Brock ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC > ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: >> Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be >> sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a >> thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable >> cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings >> didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that >> .The >> indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any >> information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 >> > Jimmy, I use a 4" sleeve, I think it's 10.5". On longer bores I have > stopped short of the bottom if the bore is good down there. I made a > fixture to hold a dial indicator on the bottom of the boring bar. The bar > is mounted on a plate bolted to the cylinder with jack screws on the > overhanging portion. The bar can be centered and paralleled, and dialed in > to the bottom of the cylinder. I have also added a spacer at the top, the > piston never comes this far up, and when bored you can hardly tell it's > there. I always leave a lip at the bottom, the sleeve stops against it and > the head holds the top. I have some 3/32 X 4" sleeve sections I've saved > if you want to add a piece. You're welcome to one. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Mon Jun 5 10:32:19 2006 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:32:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Message-ID: <708053015.1149528739061.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> > who has been able to supply from sizes from 4 inch up to 6 inchs with an > average lenth of about 10 to 11 inchs > i have not hade a problem getting a size just the other day i got a price > for a sleeve for a mate the size was 4 inch by 11.5 long > it was $120 Au hope that helps > regards Brock I get the 3/32 X 4 X 10.5" for $30. J.B. From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 6 16:00:05 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:00:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From swebre at hotmail.com Tue Jun 6 19:24:28 2006 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:24:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Press Release - Code Name "Chair" Message-ID: For Immediate Release: 06/06/06 Today, B&S, LLC announced intentions to declassify certain aspects of Project "Chair". Security will be tight, but SEL members will be allowed limited access for the duration of the SIAM show beginning 06/09/06 thru 06/11/06. No flash photography will be permitted. B&S, LLC Broussard, LA PS - Bring marshmallows From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Wed Jun 7 02:42:36 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:42:36 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: Working in OZ Dave. Regards Lyndsay >From: "Dave Croft" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "atis" >Subject: [SEL] Test >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:00:05 +0100 > > >Dave Croft >Warrington >http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 7 11:14:40 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> References: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <1418.165.206.180.19.1149704080.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Anyone have any experience with or comments about the Harbor Freight blast cabinet #39170? It's a fair size floor model blast cabinet. On sale now..... Good? Indifferent? Have no clue, never heard of it or them? It sucks, run from it fast? also - what "media" do you use for various parts and materials? I've got a lot of parts to clean - using electrolysis when/where I can, but I also believe some parts simply need "blasting", especially non-ferrous metals. Bill Runnells, IA where we need RAIN badly!!!!!!!!!!!! From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 7 12:03:06 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:03:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Crossley HD3 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060607210253.00ad8420@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, A good friend called today and asked if I could help with a manual for a Crossley HD3 that he recently acquired. A year or 2 back I downloaded "HDHH.pdf" (operating and installation instructions) and "HDPT.pdf" (Parts diagram) and "CRHD.pdf" from Paul's site (Internal Fire). Unfortunately HDHH.PDF and CRHD.PDF have pages missing (I get an error in Acrobat reader similar to "Insufficient data for an image). Does anyone have any scanned versions of these manuals for me? These engines are very rare in South Africa but I know that there are a few in Aus and probably in the U.K.. The details of this engine are: Crossley HD3 B.H.P. 10 @ 475 R.P.M. Serial No. 126333 I would really like to be able to help this guy as he is the person who gave me my little Ruston & Hornsby PT. before and after As usual - any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Best regards Jerry Evans. Visit our website: www.databak.co.za --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From falcon at telenet.net Wed Jun 7 12:59:47 2006 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:59:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of References: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> <1418.165.206.180.19.1149704080.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <005501c68a6c$ee6a9020$c01117d1@net.telenet.net> Bill, I have a couple of HF blast cabinets. They are pretty much the same as the rest on the market and have the same problem, the low end siphon media guns are crap. They work OK but can be finicky with different media types. I replaced both of mine with pressure feed hopper type blasters and they now work good. You will want to connect up a good dust collector to it so that you can see what is going on inside. Extra lights are a good idea as well. Media wise I have one set of for aggressive rust/paint/crud removal and run 150 grit Black Beauty blasting media. The other is loaded with glass bead and gets used on parts like aluminum and brass items. Then I have a smaller unit loaded with plastic bead that I use on carbs and SOFT parts. The HF units all seam to leak a bit around the doors, That can be taken care of by adding an extra piece of weather strip inside the original so it acts more like a double seal. I also sprayed the entire interior of mine with a coat of white epoxy paint. Reflects the light better. Steve Williams Near Cooperstown, New York ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of > > Anyone have any experience with or comments about the Harbor Freight blast > cabinet #39170? > It's a fair size floor model blast cabinet. On sale now..... > > Good? > Indifferent? > Have no clue, never heard of it or them? > It sucks, run from it fast? > > also - what "media" do you use for various parts and materials? > I've got a lot of parts to clean - using electrolysis when/where I can, > but I also believe some parts simply need "blasting", especially > non-ferrous metals. > > Bill > Runnells, IA where we need RAIN badly!!!!!!!!!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mickdema at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 04:03:31 2006 From: mickdema at yahoo.com (Mick Demaria) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 04:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Delco-Light Salesman's Trailer - Help with Paint Color Needed Message-ID: <20060607110331.96777.qmail@web39107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Guys: I am in the process of building a replica of a Delco Salesman's Trailer. We are just starting to do the wood. The problem is what color were they originally? Has anyone out there seen an original? I'd like to retain the original color if its not too ugly. These pictures were sent to me by another collector. I think the top pictures are of original trailers. The bottom two are Don's. He chose to stain and poly his. A really nice job! http://www.oldengine.org/members/demaria/trailer/ Any suggestion as to what the original color if any would would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mick DeMaria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From paul at semidiesel.com Wed Jun 7 12:56:02 2006 From: paul at semidiesel.com (Paul Evans) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:56:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Crossley HD3 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060607210253.00ad8420@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060607210253.00ad8420@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <44872F52.2080504@semidiesel.com> Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi Guys, > A good friend called today and asked if I could help with a > manual for a Crossley HD3 that he recently acquired. Hi Jerry, Fixed version is up. Cheers Paul -- Internal Fire Museum of Power Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS http://www.internalfire.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 7 20:27:55 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:27:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Press Release - Code Name "Chair" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1149737275.4487993b58622@webmail.city-net.com> DAMN!! Sounds like the SIAM show is shaping up as THE event of the 2006 show season!! Can't wait to see the "night videos" of The Chair!! 8-)) Quoting Steve Webre : > For Immediate Release: 06/06/06 > > Today, B&S, LLC announced intentions to declassify certain aspects of > Project "Chair". > > Security will be tight, but SEL members will be allowed limited access for > the duration of the SIAM show beginning 06/09/06 thru 06/11/06. > > No flash photography will be permitted. > > B&S, LLC > Broussard, LA > > PS - Bring marshmallows From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 7 20:14:21 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:14:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of Message-ID: <20060607.232347.656.4.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Bill, I see the cabinet you are talking abaout on th flyer. You have to realize that, with Harbor Freight, you get what you pay for. I can drive over to their Pleasant Hills, PA store and take a look if you want. And then give an opinion. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jun 7 22:54:35 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:54:35 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: <20060608055426.RWIB4761.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> I hope to see a few list members at the Manilla, NSW rally this weekend. Should be a great weekend (weather permitting). The big Stover is wrapped up on the trailer to protect it from the weather and I just bought a sleeping bag rated for -8c. I will off course take along plenty of personal anti-freeze to help us through the weekend ;) Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ From nancydick at pennswoods.net Thu Jun 8 07:11:24 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:11:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060608070559.01b513a0@mail.pennswoods.net> Hi every one. Have a question on my Stover ct1. what should be the point opening on it. I tired to start it yesterday after sitting about 2 years. I have spark but not hot you can hold the plug wire and just feel it. This has a rebuilt mag from Ted B on it. It is a Wico EK Thanks R Fink From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Jun 8 04:25:32 2006 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:25:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Stover References: <4.2.0.58.20060608070559.01b513a0@mail.pennswoods.net> Message-ID: <000801c68aee$42bc3d00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> If ya dont get a belt off the mag, stop right there! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fink Sr" To: "SEL.email discussionlist" Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:11 AM Subject: [SEL] Stover > Hi every one. Have a question on my Stover ct1. what should be the point > opening on it. I tired to start it yesterday after sitting about 2 years. > I have spark but not hot you can hold the plug wire and just feel it. This > has a rebuilt mag from Ted B on it. It is a Wico EK > Thanks > R Fink > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 8 04:39:08 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 04:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <20060607.232347.656.4.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20060607.232347.656.4.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <2079.165.206.180.19.1149766748.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Hey, Joe, It would seem to be that way everywhere...... thing is, I've looked at all the places that have outlets locally - Northern Tools, etc. and they all seem to sell the same stuff, or if the brands are different, the design and "quality" are similar. Des Moines only has a couple of places that sell tools like that so our choices are limited (small city that likes to think it's a BIG city) and I've got a low budget -200 was target, really can't go over 275 or so tops. Got a lot of parts to blast - car restoration (wow, a dismantled car takes a LOT of space!) and have a couple of engines to get ready for show. Tired of "sand" all over the driveway and in my hair - then having to buy more sand when I have finished a few parts. (and it really looks like heck around here if I use the black media!) Yeah, let me know what you think, really. I asked.... ;-) Bill > Hi Bill, > > I see the cabinet you are talking abaout on th flyer. > > You have to realize that, with Harbor Freight, you get what you pay for. > > I can drive over to their Pleasant Hills, PA store and take a look if you > want. > > And then give an opinion. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From b2 at chooka.net Thu Jun 8 05:12:42 2006 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 07:12:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <1418.165.206.180.19.1149704080.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <200606080712162.SM03004@wrbpc> Bill, I bought one of the Northern Hydraulics units a couple of years ago, $200 or so, maybe less, and a few buckets of blasting beads. I have been pleased with the results, it quickly cleans up parts and tools. Yeah, it's kind of a dog in other ways: - don't place it next to anything you don't want sand in. I started out next to my drill press but sure didn't leave it there. The cabinet top just isn't all that tight. - it came with a stick-on sheet to kind of protect the main lid from damage but I didn?t see any replacement sheets around. Eventually (not too long, actually) the sheet was roughed up enough I peeled it off one evening so I could see what I was doing. Now the Plexiglas lid is pretty cloudy, I'll need to cut another one of these days. - you have to add a light to the cabinet. Good idea that somebody posted about painting the inside white, too. - sometimes it doesn't suck sand real well and needs to be fiddled with. I have not gotten beyond the glass beads, although the current fill of material is pretty well used up and needs to be thrown away. My main interest was in cleaning up aluminum, like magneto cases, so I didn't want the more aggressive sand. They look really great when I get done. So I'd say, "Go for it." It's got its weak spots, but at the price it seems a good education so I'll know what I want when I grow up and buy a real one. B? Bill Brueck (brick) Chatfield, MN, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of bill at antique-engines.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:15 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of Anyone have any experience with or comments about the Harbor Freight blast cabinet #39170? It's a fair size floor model blast cabinet. On sale now..... Good? Indifferent? Have no clue, never heard of it or them? It sucks, run from it fast? also - what "media" do you use for various parts and materials? I've got a lot of parts to clean - using electrolysis when/where I can, but I also believe some parts simply need "blasting", especially non-ferrous metals. Bill Runnells, IA where we need RAIN badly!!!!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Thu Jun 8 05:49:01 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:49:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] BIG Gas Engines Message-ID: <016901c68af9$eaf43300$4f704047@pengy> In my never ending quest for the Biggest flywheeled engines in the world I have become involved with the efforts to preserve the gigantic gas bleoing engines at Bethlehem Steel. Think the 600 HP Snow at Coolsprings is big? You ain't seen nuthin yet! How about a four cylinder double acting gas engine with 42" cylinders and a 28' flywheel weighing 1000 tons? How about 12 of them sitting in a row!!! The last week of June the Tod Engine Foundation will be leading a work sesion at Bethlehem Steel to do some stabilization work on their priceless collection of blowing engines. We are looking for volunteers so if you would like to get dirty working o the largest flywheeled gas engines in the World we can use your help. Here is a link to a discussion and pics on the Practical Machinist forum: http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/15829.html? (the question mark needs to be in the URL) Yes the Tod Engine is big but these are much much bigger. Hard to beliede, even I am dumbfounded looking at these beasts. PS plans are to eventually return on to operation. Rick Rowlands Tod Engine Foundation 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org William Tod Co. 34" x 68" x 60" Cross Compound Rolling Mill Engine Historic Mechanical and Materials Engineering Landmark From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 8 07:31:01 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:31:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stover Message-ID: <20060608.103101.836.0.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Rich, You sure seem to have more than enough trouble with mags. I've never putzed with the mags on my engines - but - just for fun, I went out to see what mine were set at. When open the points are about 1/8th inch. The Wico Manual doesn't give a specific gap - However - It tells it like this: On engines using the type No.2 drive (such as Stover CT-1) the breaker point contacts should just open when the armature is 3/32" away from the cores. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 8 11:30:48 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:30:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally/Anti freezing mixture info needed In-Reply-To: <200606081600.k58G04sT001654@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608201203.00aa8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 08/06/2006, you wrote: >From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally > >I will off course take along plenty of personal anti-freeze to help us >through the weekend ;) >Patrick Damn Good idea Patrick, We have the same problem over here - do you have any recommendations as to which is the best type to use. We usually have a bottle or two of Engine Coffee (a.k.a. O.B.S or Old Brown Sherry - the fisherman use it to prevent their hands becoming frozen to their rods (fishing poles to all those who thought a rod was anything else)) in the car on the way over. Of course 2 bottles are only enough if the event is quite close by - say within 20 Km. Then at the event we dose ourselves with copious amounts of B & C which usually manages to prevent us from freezing. One of our members also distills a fine "Mampoer" which always goes down very well. Difficult to explain this one but it starts off life as a peach and then through various stages of boiling and condensing ends up as a very effective "anti freeze" - actually makes you "glow". A small amount inserted through the spark plug hole is usually a surefire way of getting a cold, stubborn engine to start as well. Enjoy your show. Keep the revs up (or down) AND REMEMBER ------ Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 8 11:42:48 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:42:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <200606081600.k58G04sT001654@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608203602.00af8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> > >From: "Bill Brueck" >Subject: RE: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of > Now the Plexiglas lid is pretty cloudy, >I'll need to cut another one of these days. >Bill Brueck (brick) >Chatfield, MN, USA Hi Bill (and List) Plexiglas or Perspex (trade names for the same material) is not ideal for sandblasting visors or windows - too hard and marks very easily. Transparent P.V.C or Polycarbonate is better but the best is to use glass with a thin (cheap) sheet of Polycarbonate or P.V.C. taped over it and just replace this as it gets cloudy. > Keep the revs up (or down) AND REMEMBER ------ Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Jun 8 12:29:18 2006 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:29:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Fairbanks Morse catalog question. Message-ID: <410-22006648192918171@coastalnet.com> Does anyone have a full line Fairbanks Morse catalog from 1915 - 1925? I am looking for information on a gristmill that was marketed by them, and would appreciate hearing from you off list if you might have this info. Thank you. Ken Christison christison at coastalnet.com check out my photo gallery at: www.oldiron-nut.com/gallery From johnculp at chartertn.net Thu Jun 8 12:39:23 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:39:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally/Anti freezing mixture info needed In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608201203.00aa8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608201203.00aa8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: > We usually have a bottle or two of Engine Coffee (a.k.a. O.B.S > or Old Brown Sherry - the fisherman use it to prevent their hands > becoming frozen to their rods It would be tragic to have your hands frozen to your rod. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From b2 at chooka.net Thu Jun 8 14:00:21 2006 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608203602.00af8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <200606081600206.SM00564@wrbpc> Good tip, and just in time for me, thanks, Jerry! B? Bill Brueck (brick) Chatfield, MN, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. Hi Bill (and List) Plexiglas or Perspex (trade names for the same material) is not ideal for sandblasting visors or windows - too hard and marks very easily. Transparent P.V.C or Polycarbonate is better but the best is to use glass with a thin (cheap) sheet of Polycarbonate or P.V.C. taped over it and just replace this as it gets cloudy. > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Jun 8 16:47:09 2006 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:47:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wood County Heritage Days Message-ID: On June 10 - 11, 2006 the Wood County Historical Society will present Wood County Heritage Days. More information is available at http://www.woodcountyhistory.org .There is an operating oil drilling rig with 80' derrick and a pumping power with a horizontal band wheel powered by an SM Jones oil engine. In conjunction with this event the Power of Yesteryear Club will have many engines and tractors on display. This is an opportunity to observe drilling and pumping equipment in operation. I will be in the blacksmith shop next to the drilling rig boiler. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Jun 8 16:48:21 2006 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:48:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 40hp 2 cycle Superior Message-ID: I bought a box of GEM magazines at an auction last a couple of weeks ago. In the February 2003 issue is an article about a 40-60 hp Superior in Iowa. The article states that this is a 40hp engine at 300 rpm, a 50 hp engine at 350 rpm and a 60 hp engine at 400 rpm. I find these specs a little hard to believe. Three hundred rpm would scare the be-jesus out of me and I don't even want to contemplate 400 rpm. It also states that this engine was made about 1920. It has a cast iron crankcase housing. The catalogs that I have here lead me to believe that the cast crank case did not come about until at least the 1930's. I have a 25hp Superior of the same design without the water pump and without air start. Am I missing something or are the statements in the artice up for question? Also in that box of magazines was a sales brochure for a Huber H K tractor in near mint condition. It was a good day! Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From mickdema at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 16:01:17 2006 From: mickdema at yahoo.com (Mick Demaria) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] RE: Delco-Light Salesman's Trailer - Help with Paint Color Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060608230117.48399.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi: Thanks to all for the info. Thanks for the pictures Steve, do-no about that original color maybe I'll go with a flat or semigloss red. Mick DeMaria --- Steve Wright wrote: > Somewhere I wrote down a lot of the dimentions and > details. But here are a few of the many pictures I > took of an original owned by a fellow in Hastings > NebraskaI can see that this is taking to long to > upload the pictures. I will put together all the > pictures and reduce the size so they will send > better. I don't have the time now but will do it > later. must get to work now > Steve > > > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 04:03:31 -0700> From: > mickdema at yahoo.com> Subject: Delco-Light Salesman's > Trailer - Help with Paint Color Needed> To: > stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> CC: > Mickdema at yahoo.com> > Hi Guys:> I am in the process > of building a replica of a Delco> Salesman's > Trailer. We are just starting to do the> wood. The > problem is what color were they originally?> > Has > anyone out there seen an original? I'd like to> > retain the original color if its not too ugly.> > > These pictures were sent to me by another > collector.> I think the top pictures are of original > trailers. The> bottom two are Don's. He chose to > stain and poly his.> A really nice job!> > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/demaria/trailer/ > > > Any suggestion as to what the original color if > any> would would be greatly appreciated.> > > Thanks> Mick DeMaria> > > __________________________________________________> > Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the > best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to:> > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org> with:> > unsubscribe> in the subject of the message. Nothing > else, no SIGs, etc. > _________________________________________________________________ > It's the future, it's here, and it's free: Windows > Live Mail beta > http://www2.imagine-msn.com/minisites/mail/Default.aspx?locale=en-us __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nancydick at pennswoods.net Thu Jun 8 20:49:24 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:49:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <20060608.103101.836.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060608204812.01b52d50@mail.pennswoods.net> Thanks Joe and Reg they are set now at least 30 th. Will get some time soon to recheck. R Fink At 10:31 AM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Rich, > >You sure seem to have more than enough trouble with mags. > >I've never putzed with the mags on my engines - but - >just for fun, I went out to see what mine were set at. > >When open the points are about 1/8th inch. > >The Wico Manual doesn't give a specific gap - However - It tells it like >this: > >On engines using the type No.2 drive (such as Stover CT-1) >the breaker point contacts should just open when the armature >is 3/32" away from the cores. > >Hope this helps. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jun 9 11:51:46 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company Message-ID: Hi Folks, Once again Dolly has done her webbing magic and turned one of my sow's ears into a silk purse. The link below will take you to a description of the Fero Air Pump Company. This was a business started by my grandfather and father. The style of the "old iron" is definitely interesting. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm Since in the last few years I've found and now own two of the Fero Air Pumps, I know that they are still out there in service. obviously, if you run across any of 'em, let me know. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jun 9 14:29:34 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:29:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company References: Message-ID: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." MR cloistered oyster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "Stationary Engine List" ; "Old Engine" Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company > Hi Folks, > > Once again Dolly has done her webbing magic and turned one of my sow's > ears into a silk purse. The link below will take you to a description of > the Fero Air Pump Company. This was a business started by my grandfather > and father. The style of the "old iron" is definitely interesting. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm > > Since in the last few years I've found and now own two of the Fero Air > Pumps, I know that they are still out there in service. obviously, if you > run across any of 'em, let me know. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 9 17:34:16 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:34:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Watts Brother Help from Aussies Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060610102839.0231f1e0@mail.ncable.com.au> G'day all. Back in 2003 at the Heyfield National Rally there was a Watts brothers oil engine displayed by B & L Simpson. See page page 31 TOMM mag issue106. Does anyone know of these folk and if so perhaps a phone number?? You may even know of the town they live and i could do a search. Any help would be very appreciated. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Jun 9 18:25:11 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:25:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of Message-ID: <20060609.212511.616.0.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Bill, Took a ride over to Harbor Freight today. The cabinet you are looking at (Lot # 39170) doesn't look too bad. It measures about 35" across the front. The window is glass but seems to have a plastic coating or film on the inside. The weight of the metal seems sufficient. 16 Gauge on the top box - 18 Gauge on the frame & legs. It seems to fit in a stand. I'm not sure if it comes apart but I would think it does. There is a florescent light inside it. 2 Ports in the back for a vacuum. The glove/sleeves are not real heavy but, I guess, sufficient. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the door being on the side. If I were in the market, I think I would buy it. They also had a smaller one very similar in construction for $94.99. (Lot # 42202) It measures about 27" across the front. It has no legs so I guess you would have to build a stand for it. 'Sbout all I could think of. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Jun 9 18:37:51 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:37:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company Message-ID: <20060609.213953.616.3.jlb94@juno.com> My compliments to Dolly. She sure does excellent work. And to you too, Arnie. I had no idea that you had a product line. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 9 20:08:15 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:08:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company In-Reply-To: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> Brunner >> Fero equals Herc >> Jaeger??? Decals are cheap.... Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more > "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you > folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks > were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor > Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If > you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at > the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was > around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the > Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous > times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far > as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, > another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is > a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy > inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." > > MR cloistered oyster > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Jun 10 06:39:36 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:39:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company In-Reply-To: <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <1149946776.448acb9860edd@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Tommy, That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of that Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor are the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form follows function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > Brunner >> Fero equals Herc >> Jaeger??? Decals are cheap.... > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more > > "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you > > folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks > > were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor > > Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If > > you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at > > the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was > > around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the > > Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous > > times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far > > as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, > > another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is > > a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy > > inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." > > > > MR cloistered oyster From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 10 10:11:38 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:11:38 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <200606101600.k5AG05jH019676@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060610190735.00aa47c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 10/06/2006, you wrote: >Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company >To: Stationary Engine List , Old > Engine >Message-ID: >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >Hi Folks, > >Once again Dolly has done her webbing magic and turned one of my sow's >ears into a silk purse. The link below will take you to a description of >the Fero Air Pump Company. This was a business started by my grandfather >and father. The style of the "old iron" is definitely interesting. > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm > >Since in the last few years I've found and now own two of the Fero Air >Pumps, I know that they are still out there in service. obviously, if you >run across any of 'em, let me know. 8-)) > >See ya, Arnie Hi Arnie (and Dolly), Great Stuff. Very interesting to see that they also had a "delete" key - just called it by another name in those days. See last paragraph: I've saved the logo (decal) into my collection and will redraw it into a vector drawing as soon as I get a chance. I'll let you know when it's done. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sat Jun 10 16:04:20 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:04:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20060608070559.01b513a0@mail.pennswoods.net> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060610160142.01b32be0@mail.pennswoods.net> I made a BIG mistake on this message. It was Lee P that rebuilt the mag. CRS is getting real bad. Sorry for any confusion i may have caused. R Fink PA At 07:11 AM 6/8/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi every one. Have a question on my Stover ct1. what should be the point >opening on it. I tired to start it yesterday after sitting about 2 years. >I have spark but not hot you can hold the plug wire and just feel it. This >has a rebuilt mag from Ted B on it. It is a Wico EK >Thanks >R Fink > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Jun 10 13:09:35 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:09:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> <1149946776.448acb9860edd@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000801c68cc9$cb6de590$536b4b47@mikecomp> Fero, from the latin ferrus, hence the words, rust, rusty, rustbucket, pileofworthlessjunkamongus. Now how can you argue with such hard facts. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.................. Truth and Sincerity, Quality and Endurance The Brunner Motto ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company > Hi Tommy, > > That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of > that > Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities > between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor > are > the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form > follows > function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > >> Brunner >> Fero equals Herc >> Jaeger??? Decals are cheap.... >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> > Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more >> > "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you >> > folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks >> > were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor >> > Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If >> > you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at >> > the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was >> > around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the >> > Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous >> > times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far >> > as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, >> > another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is >> > a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy >> > inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." >> > >> > MR cloistered oyster > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 16:40:46 2006 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:40:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Arnie blows hot and cold... In-Reply-To: <200606101600.k5AG05jC019676@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of that Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor are the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form follows function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Arnie, regardless of the dastardly efforts of the Oyster Boyz, it is very cool to have your name on a piece of history. Surely, someone will run across another copy of the catalog and answer the burning question of which engine it was... Meanwhile, let the detective work start. Which engines of 2 HP as of the date of the catalog had a high tension mag, ignition switch, and removeable crank? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Lenexa, KS sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sat Jun 10 17:02:24 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:02:24 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Arnie blows hot and cold... References: Message-ID: <004601c68cea$53179c50$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Younger" To: Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: [SEL] Arnie blows hot and cold... > Hi Tommy, > That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of that > Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities > between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor are > the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form follows > function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) > See ya, Arnie > Arnie, regardless of the dastardly efforts of the Oyster Boyz, it is very > cool to have your name on a piece of history. Surely, someone will run > across another copy of the catalog and answer the burning question of which > engine it was... > Meanwhile, let the detective work start. Which engines of 2 HP as of the > date of the catalog had a high tension mag, ignition switch, and removeable > crank? > Bruce Younger Hi Bruce, I think Arnie will be over here very shortly, (Pause while I get English breweries working over the weekends in anticipation) I will advise all the English ladies that a "Ferro" is very good for a blow job. (They do get a lot of flat tyres on their ladies cars) Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sat Jun 10 21:24:28 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:24:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <20060608.103101.836.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060610212301.01b358b0@mail.pennswoods.net> Hi Joe Lee peterson is always set up at coolsprings isn't he. Thanks R Fink At 10:31 AM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Rich, > >You sure seem to have more than enough trouble with mags. > >I've never putzed with the mags on my engines - but - >just for fun, I went out to see what mine were set at. > >When open the points are about 1/8th inch. > >The Wico Manual doesn't give a specific gap - However - It tells it like >this: > >On engines using the type No.2 drive (such as Stover CT-1) >the breaker point contacts should just open when the armature >is 3/32" away from the cores. > >Hope this helps. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jun 10 20:01:18 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:01:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stover Message-ID: <20060610.232111.944.12.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Joe Lee peterson is always set up at coolsprings isn't he. YES - Usually at the intersection. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun Jun 11 04:03:53 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: <20060611110354.GDKX1358.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover (well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours driving through torrential rain to arrive in Manilla just on dark on Friday. I unloaded the engine, set up camp, and joined the gang for a few relaxing drinks and then went to bed. I should add that the moon was shining and the sky was clear when I went to bed about 1am. About 6am I was awoken by the ominous sound of light rain on the tent. It stopped and started a few times and then decided to stay. Things were not looking good for the rally. Edd had his 10hp Famous set up under his shade canopy which I thought was a great idea. I got out my shade canopy (which is weather proof) and set it up over the Stover. I then removed the tarp I had wrapped around it to protect it from the rain on the trip north. Apparently my tarp must have a hole in it because when the Stover first fired it shot a big splat of sooty water onto the underside of my canopy and a bit on the people watching me start the engine. Edd's Famous and my Stover ran all day under the protection of the canopies and a few other hardy souls also ran their engines in the gaps between the heavy falls of rain. The forecast was for more heavy falls on Sunday so late in the afternoon I threw my sodden tent and canopy into the back of the ute and loaded the engine for the trip home. It happened that one of the heaviest falls of the day occurred as I was loading so I looked like a drowned rat when I had finished. I then retreated to Tamworth to a nice warm Motel room before heading home today. The best part of the weekend was being given the bones of a 4hp Blackstone which will now give me almost all the bite I need to make my engine complete. A wet weekend but a good one. Some pics at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/man061.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sun Jun 11 07:33:05 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:33:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <20060610.232111.944.12.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060611073239.01b34930@mail.pennswoods.net> Thanks Joe R Fink At 11:01 PM 6/10/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Joe Lee peterson is always set up at coolsprings isn't he. > >YES - Usually at the intersection. > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Jun 11 06:53:50 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:53:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally References: <20060611110354.GDKX1358.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <003e01c68d5e$794eafc0$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally > Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover > (well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours > driving through torrential rain to arrive in Manilla just on dark on Friday. Big Snip > A wet weekend but a good one. Some pics at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/man061.html > Patrick M Livingstone Look on the bright side Patrick. You don't have to spend all that money to come & see what a lot of English Shows are like! The pictures look very familiar. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jun 11 09:21:40 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Fero Air Pump Company In-Reply-To: <000801c68cc9$cb6de590$536b4b47@mikecomp> References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> <1149946776.448acb9860edd@webmail.city-net.com> <000801c68cc9$cb6de590$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <1150042900.448c4314cebc2@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya Folks, All of this friendly banter has reminded me (and Dolly) of the fact that good ol' Mike is the more talkative of the Cloistered Oysters. In fact, he's been referred to as a cunning linguist on more than one occasion. I have Mike to thank for not only locating my first Fero Air Pump but also for collecting it and delivering it to Portland. And Mike being Mike, the tale alone is worth the price of admission. Now, again Mike being Mike, this is a "cautionary tale." Specifically, if you are offended by "massive mammaries" and events that may or may not involve 14-year-old naked females, stop now!! This is NOT a tale for the faint of heart (nor the humor-impaired). If, OTOH, you DO enjoy a good "old iron" yarn, GO FOR IT! http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm And for those of you who were on the list when this happened "live", I can assure you that it's just as much fun the second time around. See ya, Arnie PS - Mike, you really are in the wrong line of work! 8-)) Quoting Mike Royster : > Fero, from the latin ferrus, hence the words, rust, rusty, rustbucket, > pileofworthlessjunkamongus. Now how can you argue with such hard facts. > Oh, how the mighty have fallen.................. > > Truth and Sincerity, Quality and Endurance > The Brunner Motto From nick at holden1.net Sun Jun 11 10:31:23 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:31:23 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] A good weekend Message-ID: <448C536B.000003.01140@YOUR-447023AE6B> Hi All Is the list very slow at the moment or am I just not getting any List email's Anyway just back from a good weekend at the Windrush Valley show Photos are on webshots Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Jun 11 10:42:51 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: <20060611.104251.500.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks for the pictures Patrick, it looks like you had a good time in spite of the rain. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jun 12 03:46:04 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:46:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <003e01c68d5e$794eafc0$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <20060612104601.FBDW27710.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> I guess we are used to the endless sunshine and beautiful weather all year 'round here in Oz ;) The rain at a rally was a bit of a shock. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Look on the bright side Patrick. You don't have to spend all that money to come & see what a lot of English Shows are like! The pictures look very familiar. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Mon Jun 12 04:19:08 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:19:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <20060611110354.GDKX1358.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: Thanks Patrick for the great pics. A fairly soggy weekend by the looks. Regards Lyndsay >From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , >"Stationary Engine Mailing List" >Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally >Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 > >Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover >(well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours > > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Jun 12 16:26:15 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:26:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Show pictures Message-ID: <20060612.162615.1132.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. The past two weekends my club displayed at two different community functions. On June 4 we were at the Anaheim Hills Heritage Days, under giant oak trees. On the 11th we were at Sonora High School in La Habra to support their FFA car show fund raiser. Perfect weather. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Mon Jun 12 21:17:06 2006 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:17:06 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally References: Message-ID: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> Hey Lyndsay it reminded me of Victoria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndsay Frazer" To: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Manilla Rally > Thanks Patrick for the great pics. A fairly soggy weekend by the looks. > > > Regards > Lyndsay > > > > > >>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >>To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , >>"Stationary Engine Mailing List" >>Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally >>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 >> >>Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover >>(well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours > >> >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frazer.ben at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 21:58:08 2006 From: frazer.ben at gmail.com (Ben Frazer) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:58:08 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> References: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> Message-ID: <6f6bb9400606122158m410a7e03l92ebf4121591dd2f@mail.gmail.com> You think thats wet! We are having monsoon floods every afernoon here in Malaysia at the moment, not cold though! 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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Tue Jun 13 04:32:15 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:32:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine Message-ID: Good day all; Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 banger. Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to it. Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft for a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite unique Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG Hope ya enjoy and can help. It's a great tour of Butte's mining operation and a well spent 7 bucks. Take Care, RickinMt. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jun 13 05:21:24 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:21:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <448EADC4.1010903@scrtc.com> Richard, That baby is a Foos. I've never seen a Foos winch engine though. Tommy Turner Magnolia, Ky >Good day all; > Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining >museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We >did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. > > 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the >cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and >has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. > > The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 >banger. > > Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: > > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH > > > The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to it. >Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft for >a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk > > > and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite unique >Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG > > > Hope ya enjoy and can help. It's a great tour of Butte's mining operation >and a well spent 7 bucks. > > Take Care, > RickinMt. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jun 13 05:27:11 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:27:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060613122707.ECCO19512.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Rick, I am pretty sure the big 15hp engine is a Foos. It is an impressive looking beast :) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Good day all; Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. Take Care, RickinMt. From marshallman at iprimus.com.au Mon Jun 12 18:48:26 2006 From: marshallman at iprimus.com.au (Jim) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:48:26 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 11 References: <200606121600.k5CG06Jx021981@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <00db01c68e8b$78d04030$0300a8c0@userfea17465b0> Arnie, > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm > ROFLMAO!!!! Jim marshallman at iprimus.com.au Runnin' with the wind ...... 8^) From stevebarr at ameritech.net Tue Jun 13 07:18:04 2006 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <20060613122707.ECCO19512.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, I did make it to the Evansville Show a little late, but did have fun the the time that was spent there. Photos at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006siam1.htm Enjoy Steve From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Jun 13 07:45:07 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:45:07 EDT Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine Message-ID: <4bb.14f0643.31c02973@aol.com> In a message dated 6/13/2006 4:46:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite unique Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG Rick, Years ago, there were short stories in a magazine about a frictional tractor salesman. This salesman was selling a machne that was called "an Earthworm". The author must have seen this tractor that you photographed. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150209907 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 13 07:30:02 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, GREAT pics!! It's especially cool to see the pics of Steve's Turbo La-Z-Boy chair. They had left me a voicemail of it spooling up to full power. It's neat to see what that "looked" like. 8-)) I sure do hope that the chair makes a Portland appearance. THAT is a class butt buggy. Also good for thinning out the crowd. The other thing I noticed about those pics is that Lincoln is nearly as tall as Susan!! WHEW! What are they feeding that boy?? (Probably early and often...) See ya, Arnie On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Barr wrote: > Well, I did make it to the Evansville Show a little late, but did have fun > the the time that was spent there. > Photos at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006siam1.htm From oldironnut at alltel.net Tue Jun 13 09:55:14 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: References: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >I sure do hope that the chair makes a Portland appearance. THAT is a >class butt buggy. Also good for thinning out the crowd. You couldn't be more wrong about a good at thinning out the crowd! As soon as Steve began winding that thing up people started flocking to it like flies on honey :-)! By the time everyone would get there he would be spooling it down and he would usually fire it up again to prevent an attack by the masses! Lincoln took a couple of videos of it on his camera and I need to send them to someone who can put them up on a web page for folks to see. Rob, are you willing to do that? >The other thing I noticed about those pics is that Lincoln is nearly as >tall as Susan!! WHEW! What are they feeding that boy?? (Probably early >and often...) Be sure and mention your observation to Lincoln when you see him at Portland because he is pretty convinced that he's not growing ANY taller. From andyglines at hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 13:03:42 2006 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:03:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <200606131600.k5DG076n010827@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Great Pics Steve, I'm glad that you came to the show and I hope that you had a good time. I'll admit my inability to remember which names go with which faces so could someone identify the characters in the group photo? I do recognize several members of my Tractor Rodeo Fan Club. Thanks to your support the dusty Farmall F-20 won the title of "Sexiest Tractor". Some guys with those ugly green tractors were grumbling about Chicago type voting. They were just sore losers. I want to thanks the SEL members for their working displays. I always enjoy an engine that is "doing something" like running a drag saw more than one that is displayed by itself. We were truly blessed with good weather and I think that everyone had a good show and a good time! >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:18:04 -0700 (PDT) >From: Steve Barr >Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Message-ID: <20060613141804.64618.qmail at web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > >Well, I did make it to the Evansville Show a little late, but did have fun >the the time that was spent there. > >Photos at: >http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006siam1.htm > >Enjoy > >Steve > From oldironnut at alltel.net Tue Jun 13 13:51:20 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:51:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andy, >I'll admit my inability to remember which names go with which faces >so could someone identify the characters in the group photo? From left to right, Devin Holland (in the chair), Steve Webre, Jennifer Webre, Mel Webre, Curt Holland, Lincoln Tucker, Susan Tucker, Mike Tucker, Dave Rotigel (kneeling), Keith Kinney, Steve Barr. > I do recognize several members of my Tractor Rodeo Fan Club. >Thanks to your support the dusty Farmall F-20 won the title of >"Sexiest Tractor". Some guys with those ugly green tractors were >grumbling about Chicago type voting. They were just sore losers. They just can't deal with folks who know that green tractors aren't the best at anything :-)! >I want to thanks the SEL members for their working displays. I >always enjoy an engine that is "doing something" like running a drag >saw more than one that is displayed by itself. We were truly >blessed with good weather and I think that everyone had a good show >and a good time! Congratulations are in order for you and the rest of the SIAM crew for putting on a FANTASTIC show! The SIAM show is always one of my highlight shows for the year and this one was no exception. Throw in that we didn't get soaking wet like last year and things can't get much better. Take care, Mike -- _____________________ Mike Tucker Midway, Kentucky, USA _____________________ From sel at antique-engine.com Tue Jun 13 17:36:38 2006 From: sel at antique-engine.com (Craig Prucha) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:36:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: <448EADC4.1010903@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <2006613173638.380907@computerone> Hi Tommy, Check out my friend Doug Allen's website. Some nice engines. Doug's Foos winching engine came from Arizona... http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines1.html http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines.html Take care... Craig On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:21:24 -0400, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >?Richard, >?That baby is a Foos. ?I've never seen a Foos winch engine though. > >?Tommy Turner >?Magnolia, Ky > > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Jun 13 18:20:33 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:20:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <019501c68f50$bd162aa0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > prevent an attack by the masses! Lincoln took a couple of videos of > it on his camera and I need to send them to someone who can put them > up on a web page for folks to see. Rob, are you willing to do that? You bet, Mike. Tell me what you need. I could make a domain, such as lincoln.rustyiron.com, and let him do with it as he pleases, or if you just want to send me the videos, I'll put them up. > Be sure and mention your observation to Lincoln when you see him at > Portland because he is pretty convinced that he's not growing ANY > taller. The first thing I noticed in the group shot... ok, well maybe the second. The first thing I noticed was the fine array of SEL Cheesecake. But the very next thing I noticed was that it looks like the lad is bulking up... wider shoulders... you know.. the "man" look. Not the "man" look like in the rest of you wrinkled gray haired geezers, but like you were when you were young. You know what I mean? Rob From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Jun 13 18:55:59 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:55:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <26a.b575bc2.31c0c6af@aol.com> Hi List, I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. It has 12" x 2" flywheels. I need to know if I have an engine with the serial number above or below 66,000. Since the inspection plate with name tag is missing, I don't the serial number. Is there any other way to determine serial number without having the inspection plate with name tag? The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection plate, or magneto. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150250158 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi List,

I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. It=20= has=20 12" x 2" flywheels. I need to know if I have an engine with the serial= =20 number above or below 66,000. Since the inspection plate with name=20 tag is missing, I don't the serial number. Is there any other way= to=20 determine serial number without having the inspection plate with name=20 tag?

The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection=20 plate, or magneto.=20

Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA

From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 13 20:15:07 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:15:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <019501c68f50$bd162aa0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> References: <019501c68f50$bd162aa0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <1150254907.448f7f3b4ce7d@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Rob, I'm a certified "wrinkled gray haired geezer" and I'll tell you that I'm bulking up. I'm definitely wider than when I was young! 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting Rob Skinner : > The first thing I noticed in the group shot... ok, well > maybe the second. The first thing I noticed was the fine > array of SEL Cheesecake. But the very next thing I noticed > was that it looks like the lad is bulking up... wider > shoulders... you know.. the "man" look. Not the "man" look > like in the rest of you wrinkled gray haired geezers, but > like you were when you were young. You know what I mean? From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jun 13 20:21:39 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:21:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: <2006613173638.380907@computerone> References: <2006613173638.380907@computerone> Message-ID: <448F80C3.8050608@scrtc.com> Thanks Craig. Thats a nice big hunk of iron. Looks like the winching engines all ended up in the gold mines.... too bad the coal mines didn' t have a few.... See ya at Coolspring. TT Craig Prucha wrote: >Hi Tommy, > >Check out my friend Doug Allen's website. Some nice engines. Doug's Foos winching engine came from Arizona... > >http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines1.html > >http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines.html > >Take care... > >Craig > > >On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:21:24 -0400, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > >> Richard, >> That baby is a Foos. I've never seen a Foos winch engine though. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, Ky >> >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 14 04:41:43 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious Message-ID: Hi Folks, That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 (Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off your chin. I hope to see you there. http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ http://www.erh.noaa.gov/ifps/MapClick.php?CityName=Coolspring&state=PA&site=PBZ See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From mholland at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 14 11:31:17 2006 From: mholland at rustyiron.com (Missy Holland) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Arnie, You are just killing me. I sit at home studying, while Devin and Curt are at Coolsprings. And now you tell me the weather is going to be great. It's just not fair. Missy PS. Curt called last night so I could listen to a Reid running. >> that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot > & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the > mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) > > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 11:31:43 2006 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:31:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HI Rick, I believe the small engine is a Bessemer/Detroit variety . I used to have one but Dr Fero talked me out of it! Steve >From: "Richard Strobel" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "sel" >Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:32:15 -0600 > >Good day all; > Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining >museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We >did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. > > 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the >cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and >has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. > > The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 >banger. > > Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: > > >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH > > > The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to >it. >Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft >for >a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk > > > and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite >unique >Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG > > > Hope ya enjoy and can help. It's a great tour of Butte's mining >operation >and a well spent 7 bucks. > > Take Care, > RickinMt. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Jun 14 20:10:53 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:10:53 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine References: Message-ID: Thanks much to all that replied! I'm sure the museum will be very interested in obtaining any info on the Foos and small Bessemer. A second trip down is definetly in order!! 'preciate it RickinMt. > HI Rick, I believe the small engine is a Bessemer/Detroit variety . I > used > to have one but Dr Fero talked me out of it! Steve > > > > > >Good day all; > > Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining > >museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. > >We > >did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us > >stumped. > > > > 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from > > the > >cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed > >and > >has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. > > > > The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 > >banger. > > > > Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: > > > > > >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH > > > > > > The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to > >it. > >Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft > >for > >a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk > > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Jun 14 18:07:04 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:07:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> Hi Missy, I saw your two boys this afternoon. They are doing just fine and Curt said that Devin cooked a GREAT meal for the two of them yesterday! Dave PS, I'll see you tomorrow night! At 02:31 PM 6/14/2006, you wrote: >Arnie, > >You are just killing me. I sit at home studying, while Devin and Curt are >at Coolsprings. And now you tell me the weather is going to be great. >It's just not fair. > >Missy > >PS. Curt called last night so I could listen to a Reid running. > > >> that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot > > & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the > > mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lyle45859 at netzero.com Tue Jun 13 20:19:54 2006 From: lyle45859 at netzero.com (Lyle DeWitt Myles) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:19:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <26a.b575bc2.31c0c6af@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c68f61$6d21f720$f4978a41@cats4d7ae9feb8> These web sites may give you some where to look for information. www.hitnmiss.com , www.classiccushmanscooters.com , www.nebraskahistory.org . They may not have the information that you need but may be able to direct you in the right direction to find the information you need if it is out there to be found. Have a good day. Lyle Myles May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of FRM8198 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:56 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Hi List, I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. It has 12" x 2" flywheels. I need to know if I have an engine with the serial number above or below 66,000. Since the inspection plate with name tag is missing, I don't the serial number. Is there any other way to determine serial number without having the inspection plate with name tag? The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection plate, or magneto. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150250158 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi List,

The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection=20 plate, or magneto.=20

Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA

_______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 02:05:02 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:05:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> Message-ID: Ah Cam you just caught us on a bad weekend mate.------Will be better next time yiu visit mate. Regards Lyndsay >From: "Cam grundy" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Manilla Rally >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:17:06 +1000 > >Hey Lyndsay it reminded me of Victoria >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndsay Frazer" > >To: >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:19 PM >Subject: RE: [SEL] Manilla Rally > > >>Thanks Patrick for the great pics. A fairly soggy weekend by the looks. >> >> >>Regards >>Lyndsay >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >>>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >>>To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , >>>"Stationary Engine Mailing List" >>>Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally >>>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 >>> >>>Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover >>>(well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few >>>hours >> >>> >>> >>>Patrick M Livingstone >>>Leichhardt NSW >>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at alltel.net Thu Jun 15 03:50:10 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:50:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> References: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: Howdy all, At the SIAM show last weekend, Lincoln took a few still photos and 2 videos of Steve Webre's "The Chair" and Rob has graciously put them up on a site so people can gawk at. You can access the files at . The videos are pretty big file size wise so folks on dial-up may want think about the extended download times. The video "DSCN0308.MOV" is a shorter (and smaller 13 MB file) daytime firing and "DSCN0315.MOV" is a longer (37 MB file) nighttime run with several sequential firings. It's too bad that audio isn't with it because the sound that this beast makes is definitely part of the show! Enjoy, Mike --============_-1061753884==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Unauthorized videos of "The Chair"

Howdy all,

At the SIAM show last weekend, Lincoln took a few still photos and 2 videos of Steve Webre's "The Chair" and Rob has graciously put them up on a site so people can gawk at. You can access the files at <http://lincoln.rustyiron.com/ >. The videos are pretty big file size wise so folks on dial-up may want think about the extended download times. The video "DSCN0308.MOV" is a shorter (and smaller 13 MB file) daytime firing and "DSCN0315.MOV" is a longer (37 MB file) nighttime run with several sequential firings. It's too bad that audio isn't with it because the sound that this beast makes is definitely part of the show!

Enjoy,

Mike

From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 04:40:41 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:40:41 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great videos! I hope "The Chair" is going to be at Portland. I'd love to see it in action. Instead of hopper cooking with a hit and miss, I think we should dangle a big turkey or a few doves at the end of that flame. We had to pay for a few holes in the pavement at Portland a couple years ago. I'll bring some extra money to pay for some new grass :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ========= >From: Michael Tucker > >Howdy all, > >At the SIAM show last weekend, Lincoln took a few still photos and 2 videos >of Steve Webre's "The Chair" and Rob has graciously put them up on a site >so people can gawk at. You can access the files at >. > >Enjoy, >Mike From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 15 05:54:01 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:54:01 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's Message-ID: Howdy all; Yesterday, Corky and I travelled over to Missoula, Montana, to retrieve the sawblade for my Appleton Dragsaw and get a little steam experience. Anytime we're in Missoula, we have to visit Axman's...probably one of the greatest Hardware, Farm and Ranch, stores I've ever seen. The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great display day!! I hope they never change that scenario. Here's some pix's of somewhat common combustion engines and some not so commom steam stationary. http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551385459&security=QSoMqC Catcha later, RickinMt. From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jun 15 06:17:59 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album "graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. cheers, Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 15 06:29:13 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:29:13 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's References: Message-ID: <002701c6907f$b2ac7210$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "Steam-engine mailing list" ; "sel" Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's > Howdy all; > Yesterday, Corky and I travelled over to Missoula, Montana, to retrieve > the sawblade for my Appleton Dragsaw and get a little steam experience. > Anytime we're in Missoula, we have to visit Axman's...probably one of the > greatest Hardware, Farm and Ranch, stores I've ever seen. > The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great > display day!! I hope they never change that scenario. > Here's some pix's of somewhat common combustion engines and some not so > commom steam stationary. > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551385459&security=QSoMqC > Catcha later, RickinMt. Hi Richard, Thanks for the lovely pictures. A shop like that is a joy to behold! PS Why is the Waterloo boy in front of the British flag? Mind you, We did win at Waterloo, but we didn't use the weapons in front of the flag. 8^) Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Jun 15 06:53:57 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 09:53:57 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <426.35b6b9f.31c2c075@aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/2006 9:38:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lyle45859 at netzero.com writes: . They may not have the information that you need but may be able to direct you in the right direction to find the information you need if it is out there to be found. Have a good day. Lyle, Thanks for the information. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150379636 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Santa Maria, CA

From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Jun 15 07:22:30 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:22:30 EDT Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's Message-ID: <371.57f9d8c.31c2c726@aol.com> In a message dated 6/15/2006 6:09:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great display day!! I hope they never change that scenario. Rick, Thanks for the pictures. I am surprised that you didn't camp in the store over night. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150381350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 6/15/2006 6:09:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes:

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Rick,

Thanks for the pictures.

I am surprised that you didn't camp in the store over night.=20

Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA

From swebre at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 11:23:49 2006 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:23:49 +0000 Subject: [SEL] RE: Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: <200606151600.k5FG04HW016199@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Luke, FYI, on the last firing sequence in the longer movie, sorry for the "sputtering" flame. The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only good for ~25 seconds of fun. Modifications are being considered. :) -Steve- PS - If anyone has an extra high volume fuel pump (Holley, etc) please contact me. From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 15 11:36:06 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:36:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <200606141600.k5EG03o1030000@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606152042937.SM01764@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 14/06/2006, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:55:59 EDT >From: FRM8198 at aol.com >Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed > >Hi List, >I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. > >Francis Maciel >Santa Maria, CA Hi Francis, I've never heard of the R-12 (but I'm quite new to this old iron sickness). I have scanned the manual for the R20 - would they be similar? Duncan Denman has a page about the Massey Harris engines and the R14 , R20 and R30 were rebadged Cushman's If you need it let me know and I'll eMail it to you. The Cushman Company still exists (but now makes medical equipment and suchlike)and has a museum run by an ex employee who allegedly knows about the engines and their history but I wrote to them and they promised to get back to me but never did. Keep the revs up (or down) AND REMEMBER ------ Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Jun 15 12:38:26 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:38:26 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <2fb.6b762db.31c31132@aol.com> In a message dated 6/15/2006 12:10:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrye at databak.co.za writes: I've never heard of the R-12 (but I'm quite new to this old iron sickness). I have scanned the manual for the R20 - would they be similar? Jerry, Thanks for the reponse. I made the assumption that my engine is a Cushman R12 based on the Massey Harris Model R Engines Instruction and Parts book that you so kindly sent me. I am going by the size of the flywheels (2" x 12"). The information is on Page 12 - part number 29-113. The reason I was asking about the serial number is that two different types of of mixers were used depending on whether the engine was built before and after serial number 66,000 (See Page 15 - part number A19-481 or A16-481). Perhaps either one will work as I don't have any mixer on the engine. It requires the screw in head type mixer and not the slip in type mixer. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150400306 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 6/15/2006 12:10:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 jerrye at databak.co.za writes:

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Jerry,

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Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA

From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Jun 15 18:05:31 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:05:31 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under Message-ID: <20060615.180532.692.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> G day. A close friend had a relative die in Cooranbong, Dora Creek or Morrissett are close by. She would like to contact a florist on the net and make flower arrangements, if that is not possible a name and phone number will do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. This is between Sydney and Newcastle. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 From plb at iinet.net.au Thu Jun 15 18:48:12 2006 From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:12 +0800 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under In-Reply-To: <20060615.180532.692.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <51n3a6$ojf7ms@iinet-mail.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au> Ron,a lot of florists are tied up internationally. If your friend contacts a major florist she should be able to do it all locally. A friend in Colorado sent me a rose bush on the passing away of my mother. He ordered it from his home town and it arrived at my door a few hours later from a local florist. Ray Freeman Perth W. Australia -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Friday, 16 June 2006 9:06 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under G day. A close friend had a relative die in Cooranbong, Dora Creek or Morrissett are close by. She would like to contact a florist on the net and make flower arrangements, if that is not possible a name and phone number will do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. This is between Sydney and Newcastle. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 18:49:37 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:49:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: G'day Russell, look forward to having a good look at it in the next few days ,its not what i pictured when you first told me about it,very nice,cheers Dave >From: Russell Gilbert >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:59 +1000 > >G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about >the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often >e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little >frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. >Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to >Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the >furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the >effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in >design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very >good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 >to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are >in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album >"graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. > >cheers, Russell > >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Research and compare new cars side by side at carpoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F833884&_t=54321&_r=hotmail_endtext&_m=EXT From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Jun 15 20:02:37 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:02:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under Message-ID: <20060615.200238.692.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks Ray. Excellent suggestion. We should thought of that, don't wire flowers often enough. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:12 +0800 "R and E Freeman" writes: > Ron,a lot of florists are tied up internationally. If your friend > contacts a > major florist she should be able to do it all locally. A friend in > Colorado > sent me a rose bush on the passing away of my mother. He ordered it > from his > home town and it arrived at my door a few hours later from a local > florist. > Ray Freeman > Perth W. Australia From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jun 15 20:14:00 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:14:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> References: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <1150427640.449221f89a87f@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Missy, And tonight Curt wanted me to make sure that you knew he was feeding Devin well. The stir-fry road-kill possum he made sure looked good to me. PS - I'll see you Saturday night!! PPS - Love & kisses from Coolspring. We miss you! Quoting Dave Rotigel : > Hi Missy, > I saw your two boys this afternoon. They are doing just fine and > Curt said that Devin cooked a GREAT meal for the two of them yesterday! > Dave > PS, I'll see you tomorrow night! > > At 02:31 PM 6/14/2006, you wrote: > >Arnie, > >You are just killing me. I sit at home studying, while Devin and Curt are > >at Coolsprings. And now you tell me the weather is going to be great. > >It's just not fair. > >Missy From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Jun 15 20:36:41 2006 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:36:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under References: <20060615.180532.692.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <009901c690f6$1686ded0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> I have arranged for the nearest florist to contact you by email Carlie Louise florist. Morrisset. Reg. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under >G day. > A close friend had a relative die in Cooranbong, Dora Creek or > Morrissett are close by. She would like to contact a florist on the net > and make flower arrangements, if that is not possible a name and phone > number will do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > This is between Sydney and Newcastle. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California > USA > http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Jun 15 22:06:47 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:06:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] ] OT.. Help from friends down under Message-ID: <20060615.220647.692.2.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks Reg. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:36:41 +1000 "R & M Ingold" writes: > I have arranged for the nearest florist to contact you by email > Carlie Louise florist. Morrisset. > Reg. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Fri Jun 16 03:01:37 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:01:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Mate that is one hell of a nice engine. Well done. Pics are great. Regards Lyndsay >From: Russell Gilbert >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:59 +1000 > >G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about >the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often >e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little >frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. >Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to >Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the >furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the >effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in >design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very >good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 >to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are >in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album >"graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. > >cheers, Russell > >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nick at holden1.net Fri Jun 16 10:47:14 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:47:14 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4492EEA2.000001.02208@YOUR-447023AE6B> Nice looking engine Russell god photos Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden -------Original Message------- From: Russell Gilbert Date: 06/15/06 14:38:54 To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album "graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. cheers, Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 16 14:23:19 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:23:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] RE: Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44932147.9010307@insulate.co.uk> Hi Steve Jim here (for a change!!) > The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only good for ~25 seconds > of fun. > > Modifications are being considered. :) > Could you introduce propane as the afterburner?? Have you seen the 2 > stroke East German Trabant video of one on full throttle,then holding > a lit cigaret lighter at the end of the exhaust and the unburnt mix > doing a scaled down chair burnout!! Jim > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From stevebarr at ameritech.net Fri Jun 16 18:00:24 2006 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and drive on out... Steve --- Arnie Fero wrote: Hi Folks, That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 (Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off your chin. I hope to see you there. http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 16 18:17:40 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:17:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> I posted the few photos I took today at: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551428406&ran=11528 They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too small! :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; "Old Engine" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on > display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 > photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret > location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and > drive on out... > > Steve > > --- Arnie Fero wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 > (Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least > in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description > that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! > > Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember > the > mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) > > If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do > Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, > Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off > your chin. I hope to see you there. > > http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 16 18:52:31 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:52:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> References: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060616214620.01ac3288@mail.alltel.net> I noticed that some of the smaller engines at Coolspring were running. If an engine isn't running (or is incapable of running) it would seem a BIT of an OVERSTATEMENT to say that it is "X", "Y", or "Z" HP. One might correctly indicate the weight of the cast iron--but to indicate HP is a figment of an over active imagination! Dave At 09:17 PM 6/16/2006, you wrote: >I posted the few photos I took today at: > >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551428406&ran=11528 > >They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size >to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too >small! :-) > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; >"Old Engine" >Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:00 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > >>Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on >>display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 >>photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret >>location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and >>drive on out... >> >>Steve >> >>--- Arnie Fero wrote: >> >>Hi Folks, >> >>That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 >>(Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least >>in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description >>that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! >> >>Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember >>the >>mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) >> >>If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do >>Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, >>Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off >>your chin. I hope to see you there. >> >>http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ >> >>See ya, Arnie >> >>Arnie Fero >>Pittsburgh, PA >>fero_ah at city-net.com >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oiseming at moscow.com Fri Jun 16 19:34:34 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:34:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> Message-ID: <200606170234.k5H2YjBv024217@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious I posted the few photos I took today at: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 6&ran=11528 They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too small! :-) Rick ~~~ Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow run several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that Snow. Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought to be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. Regards, Orrin From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 16 22:54:32 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:54:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <200606170234.k5H2YjBv024217@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <00cf01c691d2$81a39960$4f704047@pengy> With my work load I don't know when I'll be able to get to Rollag. Apparently these two engines are identical. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > I posted the few photos I took today at: > > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 > 6&ran=11528 > > They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size > to > > an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too > small! > > :-) > > Rick > > ~~~ > > Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at > Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow run > several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. > "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. > He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that > Snow. > Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) > > Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought to > be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they > really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. > > Regards, > > Orrin > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 16 22:59:19 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:59:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> <6.1.2.0.0.20060616214620.01ac3288@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <00d801c691d3$2c8e2d40$4f704047@pengy> Yep if its not producing that HP and doing work then its just a big toy. As we pick up and move parts for the Tod we are weighing the parts with the load cells on the cranes. It went from an estimated 250 ton engine to 260 and now getting closer to 270. With two more pieces yet to move and weigh who knows what the final actual weight might be. The LP cylinder turned out to be 21,000 lb. heavier than I estimated. Rick PS what are you going to do with all those wood discs that are piling up around the SEL area? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious >I noticed that some of the smaller engines at Coolspring were running. If >an engine isn't running (or is incapable of running) it would seem a BIT of >an OVERSTATEMENT to say that it is "X", "Y", or "Z" HP. One might correctly >indicate the weight of the cast iron--but to indicate HP is a figment of an >over active imagination! > Dave > > At 09:17 PM 6/16/2006, you wrote: >>I posted the few photos I took today at: >> >>http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551428406&ran=11528 >> >>They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size >>to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too >>small! :-) >> >>Rick >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; >>"Old Engine" >>Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:00 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious >> >> >>>Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on >>>display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 >>>photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret >>>location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and >>>drive on out... >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>--- Arnie Fero wrote: >>> >>>Hi Folks, >>> >>>That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 >>>(Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least >>>in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the >>>description >>>that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! >>> >>>Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember >>>the >>>mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) >>> >>>If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do >>>Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, >>>Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off >>>your chin. I hope to see you there. >>> >>>http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ >>> >>>See ya, Arnie >>> >>>Arnie Fero >>>Pittsburgh, PA >>>fero_ah at city-net.com >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oiseming at moscow.com Sat Jun 17 09:27:08 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:27:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <00cf01c691d2$81a39960$4f704047@pengy> Message-ID: <200606171627.k5HGRGRU074956@mail-gw.fsr.net> Without going back and checking the facts, ISTR both engines came out of the same compressor station. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious With my work load I don't know when I'll be able to get to Rollag. Apparently these two engines are identical. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > I posted the few photos I took today at: > > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 > 6&ran=11528 > > They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size > to > > an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too > small! > > :-) > > Rick > > ~~~ > > Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at > Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow run > several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. > "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. > He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that > Snow. > Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) > > Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought to > be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they > really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. > > Regards, > > Orrin > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Sat Jun 17 12:31:26 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:31:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <200606171627.k5HGRGRU074956@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <008a01c69244$a0617210$4f704047@pengy> You are correct! http://community.webshots.com/photo/551428406/2686053860033749120tDyYsX Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > Without going back and checking the facts, ISTR both engines came out of > the > same compressor station. > > Regards, > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:55 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > With my work load I don't know when I'll be able to get to Rollag. > Apparently these two engines are identical. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Orrin Iseminger" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM > Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick >> Rowlands >> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious >> >> I posted the few photos I took today at: >> >> > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 >> 6&ran=11528 >> >> They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size >> to >> >> an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too >> small! >> >> :-) >> >> Rick >> >> ~~~ >> >> Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at >> Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow >> run >> several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. >> "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. >> He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that >> Snow. >> Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) >> >> Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought >> to >> be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they >> really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. >> >> Regards, >> >> Orrin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Jun 17 04:12:34 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:12:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron In-Reply-To: <4492EEA2.000001.02208@YOUR-447023AE6B> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060617210855.02573008@mail.ncable.com.au> Thanks guys, A couple of years ago I bought a nice large cast iron muffler. Always had a dream of owning a nice larger engine and putting the muffler to good use. well it's all done now and really looks the part. I will have to get it cleaned up and paint it. Also still need time to get the elbow grease onto the engine itself. It does look much better than when it first arrived home but could still do with a lot more cleaning. regards Russell At 06:47 PM 16/06/2006 +0100, you wrote: > Nice looking engine Russell god photos > > > > > >Nick > >Banbury (UK) > >http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden > > > >-------Original Message------- > > > >From: Russell Gilbert > >Date: 06/15/06 14:38:54 > >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron > > > >G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about > >the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often > >e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little > >frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop > >up. Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight > >to Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the > >furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the > >effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in > >design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very > >good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 > >to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are > >in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album > >"graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. > > > >cheers, Russell > > > >Russell Gilbert > >Sunny Sunraysia > >russell at ncable.com.au > >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Sun Jun 18 04:30:02 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:30:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Volunteers Sought for Tod Engine Heritage Park Message-ID: <015101c692ca$8ab589c0$4f704047@pengy> The Tod Engine Foundation has made an agreement to purchase 3 acres of land behind the museum property and this includes two buildings. One building will be used for offices, library and display area for our collection of machine tools, steel industry artifacts and steam engines. The other will be used by the Tod Engine Works for our foundry. We are in need of some volunteer help this summer to work on the new site. The buildings need cleaned up, secured and renovated as well as moving the equipment collections to the building. I am usually on site on Saturdays but can arrange to be on site on any day to accomodate a volunteer's schedule. If you would like to help out please send me an email or call. Our collection is growing fast and soon we will have an outstanding facility to display our pieces of historic industrial equipment. If you have never poured iron before and would like the chance to do so that can be arranged as well. Thanks Rick Rowlands Tod Engine Foundation 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org William Tod Co. 34" x 68" x 60" Cross Compound Rolling Mill Engine Historic Mechanical and Materials Engineering Landmark From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 17 12:37:07 2006 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:37:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures Message-ID: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks Paul From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Jun 18 10:48:05 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:48:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <002d01c692ff$5bab3320$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks Paul Hi Paul, would http://ralph.lafayette.la.us/stationary-engines/engine.people/ be the required page. There are quite a few old posts of ATIS members on my page, http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/atis/atis.htm Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Sun Jun 18 13:05:41 2006 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim and Diane) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:05:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT Message-ID: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for my garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she answered "what kind of a car is that?" Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, CA , U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net From johnculp at chartertn.net Sun Jun 18 13:15:47 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:15:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures In-Reply-To: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> Here's a recent one of me, Paul: http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeEdith.jpg I'm the one in the hat. John On Jun 17, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks > > Paul John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From ozhornsby at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 14:26:22 2006 From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT In-Reply-To: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <20060618212622.78794.qmail@web35409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jim Hope you said a Generic Car LOL Kerry --- Jim and Diane wrote: > I went to a local parts house today thinking to get > a new fuel filter for my > garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the > generic fuel filters?" she > answered "what kind of a car is that?" > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, CA , U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Jun 18 15:39:06 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:39:06 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> Message-ID: <000d01c69328$062dd640$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures > Here's a recent one of me, Paul: > http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeEdith.jpg > I'm the one in the hat. John > On Jun 17, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Paul Maples wrote: >> Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks >> Paul Hi John, Even when you try to be a paedophile you get it wrong. 8^) Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sun Jun 18 19:23:26 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:23:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT In-Reply-To: <20060618212622.78794.qmail@web35409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060618192218.01b66200@mail.pennswoods.net> NO You tell them it is a Hudson Buick supper six. Red in color R Fink At 02:26 PM 6/18/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Jim Hope you said a Generic Car >LOL >Kerry > >--- Jim and Diane wrote: > > > I went to a local parts house today thinking to get > > a new fuel filter for my > > garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the > > generic fuel filters?" she > > answered "what kind of a car is that?" > > > > Jim > > > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > > Hemet, CA , U.S.A. > > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rex002 at centurytel.net Sun Jun 18 18:30:57 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:30:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] TEST Message-ID: <000f01c69340$04d8e0b0$6400a8c0@home> Just a test From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 18 18:39:08 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:39:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Message-ID: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight [$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan From asouth at strato.net Sun Jun 18 18:20:05 2006 From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:20:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> Message-ID: <008601c6933e$7fbdabf0$c500a8c0@ARTHUR> Good picture John. Arthur Arcadia, FL USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" > Here's a recent one of me, Paul: > http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeEdith.jpg From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jun 18 19:29:31 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:29:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> References: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <44960C0B.1010504@scrtc.com> Jimmy, Who are you getting the sleeve from? There used to be a company here in KY called Versnick that had the centrifically spun cast sleeves. They sold out and the facility was closed. I was just curious who was a good supplier out there now. Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of >the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight >[$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is >find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of >the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. >Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 > >Jim O'Hagan > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From lyle45859 at peoplepc.com Sun Jun 18 19:31:09 2006 From: lyle45859 at peoplepc.com (Lyle Myles) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:31:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <000001c69348$6e04bb10$fdb85904@cats4d7ae9feb8> Jim I would think if you contacted some of the tractor dealers in your area that they could direct you to someone with the correct boring mill to do the work for you. Just thought I would pass this along to help you locate someone that could help you. I know in our area that NAPA handles a lot of work for the farmers and if you have a NAPA dealer in your area and if they cannot due this kind of work, they should know of someone who can. Hope this helps some. Lyle Myles May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight [$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at chartertn.net Sun Jun 18 20:07:37 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:07:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures In-Reply-To: <008601c6933e$7fbdabf0$c500a8c0@ARTHUR> References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> <008601c6933e$7fbdabf0$c500a8c0@ARTHUR> Message-ID: <290c0b98d117bf0919cb93322fd1c7bf@chartertn.net> Thanks, Arthur. The lady beside me is a dear friend, Edith Benfield, at her 80th birthday party. I like her taste in hats. :-) John On Jun 18, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote: > Good picture John. > > Arthur John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 18 20:08:29 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:08:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <44960C0B.1010504@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <20060619030902.BD3A9313C1A@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org> Hi Tommy,A few of the sources out here closed their doors. I found a company in southern Ca. called LA Sleeve @1 800 822 6005.Dave is a contact person. They make custom lengths etc.if you need it.They are on the web also. Cya,Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Jimmy, Who are you getting the sleeve from? There used to be a company here in KY called Versnick that had the centrifically spun cast sleeves. They sold out and the facility was closed. I was just curious who was a good supplier out there now. Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of >the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight >[$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is >find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of >the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. >Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 > >Jim O'Hagan > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 18 20:27:40 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:27:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <000001c69348$6e04bb10$fdb85904@cats4d7ae9feb8> Message-ID: <20060619032743.B3C9A313C22@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org> Thanks Lyle, I'll check a couple of the local dealers. Napa stores around Novato,Ca are pretty much "parts stores" Most of the repair facilities are replacement specialist. The environmental regulations have pushed body ,machine ,manufacturing shops out of the area. The ones left are expensive because the cost of doing business. Thanks Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Myles Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:31 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: RE: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Jim I would think if you contacted some of the tractor dealers in your area that they could direct you to someone with the correct boring mill to do the work for you. Just thought I would pass this along to help you locate someone that could help you. I know in our area that NAPA handles a lot of work for the farmers and if you have a NAPA dealer in your area and if they cannot due this kind of work, they should know of someone who can. Hope this helps some. Lyle Myles May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight [$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustyjnk at ncbb.net Sun Jun 18 22:03:21 2006 From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (rustyjnk) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:03:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] list Message-ID: <44963019.3080102@ncbb.net> sel member photos From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 18 22:09:09 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:09:09 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FW: R&V transport help please guys. In-Reply-To: <004101c6935a$803478e0$0601a8c0@altech> Message-ID: <00bb01c6935e$806d6660$0201a8c0@robscomputer> This is forwarded from Pete Lowe. Contact him directly, as he's not on the ATIS list. > Hi all >I am looking at getting a R&V vertical from North >Dakota and need help getting it eventually to Rob >Skinner in California. There is no hurry in actually >getting this engine as long as it is protected from >the elements and transport damage on its travels. Can >anyone help please, contact me direct OFF LIST to >plowe at exemail.com.au This engine is on the Canadian, >North Dakota border, so I guess it could not be >further from our normal engine group it I tried ;-((( >I can transport it to whoever is closest and is >willing to help. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-registe r.htm From shop at cccomm.net Mon Jun 19 06:26:56 2006 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:26:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT References: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <003e01c693a4$098af8a0$6401a8c0@Shop> >I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for >my > garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she > answered "what kind of a car is that?" On my way back from the Tulare, Ca. I had to stop at a parts store for a fuse. I was totally astounded when I walked into a Pep Boys' and found everything in Spanish. They actually had to find someone who spoke English to give me directions......... From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jun 19 07:28:42 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:28:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT Message-ID: <20060619.102848.1104.0.jlb94@juno.com> On my way back from Coolspring, PA I stopped at a hardware store to get a generator for my Coleman Gas Lantern. They didn't have it but recommended (unusual) a place right up the street called Tackle Unlimited, a fishing tackle place. Went there and they actually knew what I was talking about and - actually had it. Yes - I bought it. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 10:19:08 2006 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT In-Reply-To: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <20060619171908.44818.qmail@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To get this a little closer to on-topic,,,,, Saturday I was in a museum in a small town that has a lot of my family history around it. In the basement an old guy that was walking around telling me about a lot of the stuff gave me a chuckle or two. On topic comment below 8>)) We walked up to a dishpan flywheeled FBM Z and I asked him why it was there. You know,,, "Is there any special history connected to this engine?" The man said he didn't know anything about THAT engine,,, BUT, He did know the larger green one back there used to provide all the power for an old resort up the road. OK said I, let's go look at it. I had remembered walking past a big green pump with a rather large electric motor on it,,, I must have missed the engine,,,, We went back around a corner and sure enough he told me "this engine turns this generator." It took me a couple minutes to convince him that it was a motor powered pump instead of an engine powered generator. 8>))))) Alan Jim and Diane wrote: I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for my garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she answered "what kind of a car is that?" Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, CA , U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-643583937-1150737548=:43348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

To get this a little closer to on-topic,,,,,

Saturday I was in a museum in a small town that has a lot of my family history around it.

In the basement an old guy that was walking around telling me about a lot of the stuff gave me a chuckle or two.

On topic comment below 8>))

We walked up to a dishpan flywheeled FBM Z and I asked him why it was there. You know,,, "Is there any special history connected to this engine?"

The man said he didn't know anything about THAT engine,,, BUT, He did know the larger green one back there used to provide all the power for an old resort up the road.

OK said I, let's go look at it. I had remembered walking past a big green pump with a rather large electric motor on it,,, I must have missed the engine,,,,

We went back around a corner and sure enough he told me "this engine turns this generator."

It took me a couple minutes to convince him that it was a motor powered pump instead of an engine powered generator. 8>)))))

Alan

Jim and Diane <jd.kirkes at verizon.net> wrote:

I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for my
garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she
answered "what kind of a car is that?"

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
jd.kirkes at verizon.net

How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. From curt at imc-group.com Mon Jun 19 10:41:32 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:41:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4496E1CC.5090207@imc-group.com> Steve, Perhaps just an additional fuel pump rather than a single replacement? Twin pumps and injectors in the exhaust cone? Any idea who took the picture of Devin and Lincoln roasting the marshmallows with the exhaust plume? Curt Steve Webre wrote: > Luke, > > FYI, on the last firing sequence in the longer movie, sorry for the > "sputtering" flame. The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only > good for ~25 seconds of fun. > > Modifications are being considered. :) > > -Steve- > > PS - If anyone has an extra high volume fuel pump (Holley, etc) please > contact me. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jun 19 12:25:34 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] RE: Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <000501c693b0$422dc1e0$6401a8c0@yourkybtg65gxe> References: <000501c693b0$422dc1e0$6401a8c0@yourkybtg65gxe> Message-ID: Hi John, In a word, awesome!! The weather was perfect all three days and the engines were incredible. The coolest engine there was a 1-1/2 hp McCormick-Deering "M" that ran on propane and had hot tube ignition. The display sign said that it was an experimental model designed for use in the PA oilfields. It ran really sweetly. And speaking of engines, does anyone know the make of the two engines that are on the back of this year's Coolspring T-shirt? I meant to ask but forgot to. See ya, Arnie On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, John DeBrular wrote: > Arnie, How about a report on Coolspring? From stevebarr at ameritech.net Mon Jun 19 14:55:30 2006 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060619215530.1489.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Below is a link to the photos from CPM this year... 3 pages...250+ photos...no text yet....As Arnie mentioned, I saved the best for almost last... I need to get a few projects completed for the Sandwich, IL show this weekend so the text will wait. http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006CPM1.htm Steve From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jun 19 19:19:02 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:19:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious Message-ID: <20060619.221904.1304.4.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Steve, Now I know what you were doing all day. Great bunch of pics. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jun 19 21:49:59 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:49:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress Message-ID: <20060620044953.KHAN5695.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Now that I have a donor wreck which gives me almost all the remaining bits for my Blackstone it is time to get it out of storage. We had to move a number of engines to get the Blackstone out (including the big R&V) but Ron's forklift is a big help. The Blackstone wreck is currently leaning up against the good engine and is full of smelly de-rusting stuff to attempt to free up the piston. Ron attempted one hit with the sledge but the piston is very, very solid in the bore. A few weeks of soaking will help. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061801.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061802.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061803.JPG Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ From michael.y at ozemail.com.au Tue Jun 20 01:11:43 2006 From: michael.y at ozemail.com.au (Michael Young) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:11:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress References: <20060620044953.KHAN5695.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000601c69441$2b241d50$0301a8c0@Young1203> Patrick, could be that the sideshaft might be bit pesky to get off as well. I suggest the gas axe for the sideshaft and shit loads of general heat for the piston and a BIG press. Not that you asked, but my thoughts anyway Mike Michael Young 5 Beech Crescent Orange NSW 2800 AUSTRALIA http://community.webshots.com/user/mioldengines ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress > Now that I have a donor wreck which gives me almost all the remaining bits > for my Blackstone it is time to get it out of storage. > We had to move a number of engines to get the Blackstone out (including the > big R&V) but Ron's forklift is a big help. > The Blackstone wreck is currently leaning up against the good engine and is > full of smelly de-rusting stuff to attempt to free up the piston. Ron > attempted one hit with the sledge but the piston is very, very solid in the > bore. A few weeks of soaking will help. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061801.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061802.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061803.JPG > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Jun 20 02:40:44 2006 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:40:44 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Engine help needed Message-ID: <062020060940.7668.4497C29C000CF18E00001DF4219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Looking for info on a 2 1/2hp Iowa, oversized engine, ser: 164520 for a lady who is not on our list. thankyou in advance, Curt Andree From curt at imc-group.com Tue Jun 20 04:35:52 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <007d01c69447$2b4d4170$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <001501c693fc$8cc06ae0$03000004@bonnie> <005101c69400$05ca1b40$6401a8c0@yourkybtg65gxe> <6f6025160606192358n530387b1vf9cffd4c4fd20daa@mail.gmail.com> <007d01c69447$2b4d4170$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <4497DD98.6030902@imc-group.com> Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is! On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like: "Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous??? Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to charge exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another nice engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the Maytag is all you get." Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday night for exhibitors. R & M Ingold wrote: > This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your > toys, so be it. > I will NOT. My choice. > So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH > > >> On 20/06/06, John DeBrular wrote: >> >>> At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They >>> will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>> exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>> Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>> They charge you 10% >>> quite a bargain. >>> >>> John >> >> >> In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >> charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >> basic green field sites. >> >> Peter >> -- > --------------040803020008050207020406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt one of the finest, if not the finest gas engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!
On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like:
"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous???
Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to charge
exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another nice
engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the Maytag
is all you get."

Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC
P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday night for exhibitors.

R & M Ingold wrote:

This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your toys, so be it.
I will NOT. My choice.
So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH

On 20/06/06, John DeBrular <debrular at charter.net> wrote:

At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They
will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not
exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the
Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you.
They charge you 10%
quite a bargain.

John

In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of
charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in
basic green field sites.

Peter
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From ozhornsby at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:03:42 2006 From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Engine help needed In-Reply-To: <062020060940.7668.4497C29C000CF18E00001DF4219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20060620120342.83181.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received a mail from a chap from Canberra who had an engine stolen on the Saturday night of the Canberra rally, not sure if at the rally grounds of sailing but be on the look out for the Vinco 2.5 hp. see http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Vinco.html His mail > Hi Kerry. > I was browsing and saw the image of my engine, (the second of the > two). > I remember you taking that image whilst at the Queanbeyan Heritage > Engine Rally Saturday 25th March. > Sorry to report that that engine and a Twin Lucas magneto was stolen > out of my car by some b---- that Saturday evening when I went for an > evening sail on Lake Burley Griffin. > I really appreciate you taking this image because I can forward it on > to the Police for their positive ID, should they ever recover the > engine. Could you please send me an electronic version by email ? Also, > do you happen to have noticed anyone taking unusual interest in the > little engine that Saturday? > Any help in tracking it and the Lucas magneto down would be > greatlyappreciated. > Appreciated. > John > > > > John Kemister. > Senior Conservator, Large Technology. > Australian War Memorial. > Canberra. ACT. Australia. > Ph 61 262434492, Fax 61 2 62434449 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brock at netspeed.com.au Tue Jun 20 05:42:32 2006 From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:42:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine help needed References: <20060620120342.83181.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ad01c69467$016d4b00$5f11fea9@merlin> G,day Kerry The engine & magneto were taken from Lake burley Griffen after he left the rally grounds theres some weak pricks out there ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Morris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine help needed > > Received a mail from a chap from Canberra who had an > engine stolen on the Saturday night of the Canberra > rally, not sure if at the rally grounds of sailing but > be on the look out for the Vinco 2.5 hp. > > see > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Vinco.html > > His mail > >> Hi Kerry. >> I was browsing and saw the image of my engine, (the > second of the >> two). >> I remember you taking that image whilst at the > Queanbeyan Heritage >> Engine Rally Saturday 25th March. >> Sorry to report that that engine and a Twin Lucas > magneto was stolen >> out of my car by some b---- that Saturday evening > when I went for an >> evening sail on Lake Burley Griffin. >> I really appreciate you taking this image because I > can forward it on >> to the Police for their positive ID, should they > ever recover the >> engine. Could you please send me an electronic > version by email ? Also, >> do you happen to have noticed anyone taking unusual > interest in the >> little engine that Saturday? >> Any help in tracking it and the Lucas magneto down > would be >> greatlyappreciated. >> Appreciated. >> John >> >> >> >> John Kemister. >> Senior Conservator, Large Technology. >> Australian War Memorial. >> Canberra. ACT. Australia. >> Ph 61 262434492, Fax 61 2 62434449 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 20 06:21:00 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:21:00 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Solenoid engine enquiry Message-ID: <006e01c6946c$60f2c6e0$3ac10b52@no1> Hi Guys, In May, someone on one of these lists was after information on building a Solonoid engine model. I have lost the list of posts that included this subject. I have been sent an article from Practical Mechanics 1933 with info so if anyone wants it please let me know. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From swebre at hotmail.com Tue Jun 20 12:04:03 2006 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:04:03 +0000 Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <200606201600.k5KG03OG024061@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: >Steve, >Perhaps just an additional fuel pump rather than a single replacement? Twin >pumps and injectors in the exhaust cone? Yep, that's what we're considering. More fuel is a good thing at this point. >Any idea who took the picture of Devin and Lincoln roasting the >marshmallows with the exhaust plume? Thought it was Jenn. I'll check. -Steve- >>Luke, >> >>FYI, on the last firing sequence in the longer movie, sorry for the >>"sputtering" flame. The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only good >>for ~25 seconds of fun. >> >>Modifications are being considered. :) >> >>-Steve- >> >>PS - If anyone has an extra high volume fuel pump (Holley, etc) please >>contact me. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jun 20 13:41:05 2006 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:41:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4497DD98.6030902@imc-group.com> Message-ID: Hi Curt, Do I have your permission to forward this document to the board of directors at Arden? I think it might make a difference in attitude. Thanks, Steve >From: Curt >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, SEL >Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400 > >Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows >fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt >one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine show on the planet. No >charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience >Coolsprings is! >On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden >(NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me >exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag >and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like: >"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous??? >Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to >charge >exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another >nice >engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the >Maytag >is all you get." > >Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' >mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. >Curt Holland >Gastonia, NC >P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other >members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may >enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday >night for exhibitors. > > > >R & M Ingold wrote: > >>This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your toys, so >>be it. >>I will NOT. My choice. >>So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >>Reg & Marg Ingold. >>Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >>To: >>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >>Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >> >> >>>On 20/06/06, John DeBrular wrote: >>> >>>>At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They >>>>will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>>>exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>>>Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>>>They charge you 10% >>>>quite a bargain. >>>> >>>>John >>> >>> >>>In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >>>charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >>>basic green field sites. >>> >>>Peter >>>-- >> > > >--------------040803020008050207020406 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > >Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that >shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for >example. No doubt one of the finest, if not the finest gas >engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for >camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!
>On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now >Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not >find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by >borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads >something like:
>"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my >Famous???
>Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to >charge
>exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring >another nice
>engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys >the Maytag
>is all you get."
>
>Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors >only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear.
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
>P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and >other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that >others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner >on Saturday night for exhibitors.
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>R & M Ingold wrote: >

type="cite">This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to >show your toys, so be it. >
>I will NOT. My choice. >
>So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >
>Reg & Marg Ingold. >
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >
>href="mailto:randmingold at hotkey.net.au">randmingold at hotkey.net.au >
>href="http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold">http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >href="mailto:listerdiesel at gmail.com"><listerdiesel at gmail.com> >
>To: href="mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org"><stationary-engine at oldengine.org> >
>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >
>Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >
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On 20/06/06, John DeBrular >href="mailto:debrular at charter.net"><debrular at charter.net> wrote: >
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At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance >and camping is free. They >
>will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >
>exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >
>Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >
>They charge you 10% >
>quite a bargain. >
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>John >
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>In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >
>charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >
>basic green field sites. >
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> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Jun 20 13:58:04 2006 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:58:04 EDT Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH Message-ID: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, curt at imc-group.com writes: << On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me exhibiting there again >> Curt, Is Denton charging for exhibitors now or is it just Arden? There are two types of shows in my book. One is a show like Coolsprings that brings folks from all over displaying a lot of nice engines, but it is an "engine show for engine people", drawing few spectators to view your exhibit. Then there is a show like Rough and Tumble that draws a lot of spectators to view and ask questions about your exhibit. However, I agree with you: Exhibitor fee shows do not get me and my displays. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jun 20 14:23:43 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:23:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> Message-ID: <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> Tom, I've been going to Denton since '83 and they've never charged. However, the show is much more "commercialized" than most. Actually, it never began as an engine and tractor show. It began as a fly in for a local pilots group. The first year (probably around 1970 or so) had several planes and folks from the community stopped by. The next year there were many more planes and many more spectators. After a few more years it was decided that they needed to have something in addition to the planes for people to view and a tractor and engine show was suggested. Gradually the engines and tractors became the main event with planes taking second place. The crowds then became so big that there was great concern that spectators could be injured with the aircraft. The fly in was discontinued and the engine and tractor show remained. The biggest negative that I hear about the Denton show is Brown Loflin's wife who does her best to run as many people off as possible. Definitely not the personality that you need for a "front" person representing the show. There are a lot of negatives with Denton, but there are some positives. Its a good show for the family as there is a lot to do. Crafts, tractor pulls, peddle pulls, saw mill, veneer, and other displays, running steam engines, an old time "town" that contains several shops, stores, and displays from 100 years ago, a real steam train that circles the entire show grounds, good country music with often times names that you'll recognize, and other things as well. I'm not trying to plug the show as its not for everyone, but its good for others. We'll be heading down next Wednesday. Tommy >In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >curt at imc-group.com writes: > ><< On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now > Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not > find me exhibiting there again >> > > >Curt, > >Is Denton charging for exhibitors now or is it just Arden? > >There are two types of shows in my book. One is a show like Coolsprings that >brings folks from all over displaying a lot of nice engines, but it is an >"engine show for engine people", drawing few spectators to view your exhibit. >Then there is a show like Rough and Tumble that draws a lot of spectators to >view and ask questions about your exhibit. > >However, I agree with you: Exhibitor fee shows do not get me and my displays. > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. USA >Germoamer at aol.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From rex002 at centurytel.net Tue Jun 20 14:42:30 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:42:30 -0500 Subject: [sel] another old engine, closer to divorce Message-ID: <001001c694b2$6f88be80$6400a8c0@home> ----- Original Message ----- From: rex002 To: rex002 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: another old engine, closer to divorce ----- Original Message ----- From: rex002 To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: another old engine, closer to divorce Hi all; Picked up a Baker Monitor one and a quarter horse engine yesterday and it don't need any fixen , it runs has paint , What more could I ask for ? The ole Dodge has three more bullet holes in it when my Wife saw me comming up the drive with the iron in the back (forth shot missed) . I guess she don't understand this engine will be worth millions next year :-) Anyway I met one of the coolest engine collectors in Wisconsin at the Plainfield Wi. show and made the deal ,Went to his home on Saturday for the Engine , he has many engines and tractors and demonstrated a few of his best , it made my day !, We (a a friend with me) pulled a few ticks off his old black lab while he answerd the phone in his house and maeveled at all the engines in front of us , He came back out and showed us more of his collection in three more old sheads . Wow what a great guy , He is now added to my remember forever list , . I now own the Baker and will bring it to the Badger Steam And Gas Show in August , I still need a baker pump to hook to the monitor but should have one by then , LIFE IS GOOD Rex From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 20 16:19:19 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:19:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Re: Solenoid engine enquiry References: <006e01c6946c$60f2c6e0$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <000301c694bf$f5fdc070$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "atis" Cc: "Old Engine" Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Solenoid engine enquiry > Hi Guys, In May, someone on one of these lists was after information > on building a Solonoid engine model. > I have lost the list of posts that included this subject. > I have been sent an article from Practical Mechanics 1933 with info > so if anyone wants it please let me know. > Dave Croft I have found the enquirer & enough people have asked for info so I have put the pictures at my new webshots page on solenoid motors. (I will add more later) See also the site below for some interesting ideas. http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Electric_Motors/Froment_Motor/Froment_Motor.html Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From frazer.ben at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 17:30:46 2006 From: frazer.ben at gmail.com (Ben Frazer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:30:46 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <6f6bb9400606201730q29e106cbmc27c486e5a880120@mail.gmail.com> I agree entirely with Curt. In Australia there are a lot of rallies that charge only a few dollars for a saturday night meal and cleaning of the ample facilities etc (usually $5 or less total), these rallies are usually the very enjoyable ones like Wedderburn, and Bookaar etc. Then there are the rallies like Lake Goldsmith that, at least up until the last time I went there a couple of years back, charge a hefty fee for camping and provide very little, like lacklustre toilet and washroom facilities and no meal included in the charge. Now, if I go to Lake Goldsmith I will go only for the day or refuse to pay as I have done before because I am yet to see the facilities improved for the exhibitors with the money handed over, so where does it go? My two cents worth, Ben From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jun 20 19:15:58 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:15:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress In-Reply-To: <000601c69441$2b241d50$0301a8c0@Young1203> Message-ID: <20060621021552.IQRG9971.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Mike, I am going to leave it to soak for a few weeks and then have a crack at it. It has to come out (intact) so we will try every method that can be thought of. The sideshaft has already been cut once to allow the removal of the head. The plan is to make a new sideshaft and use the brackets, cams and gear off the old one. A bit of work ahead for this one :) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Patrick, could be that the sideshaft might be bit pesky to get off as well. I suggest the gas axe for the sideshaft and shit loads of general heat for the piston and a BIG press. Not that you asked, but my thoughts anyway Mike From rex002 at centurytel.net Sun Jun 18 11:49:30 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:49:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] another old engine, closer to divorce Message-ID: <002a01c69307$efa722c0$6400a8c0@home> Hi all; Picked up a Baker Monitor one and a quarter horse engine yesterday and it don't need any fixen , it runs has paint , What more could I ask for ? The ole Dodge has three more bullet holes in it when my Wife saw me comming up the drive with the iron in the back (forth shot missed) . I guess she don't understand this engine will be worth millions next year :-) Anyway I met one of the coolest engine collectors in Wisconsin at the Plainfield Wi. show and made the deal ,Went to his home on Saturday for the Engine , he has many engines and tractors and demonstrated a few of his best , it made my day !, We (a a friend with me) pulled a few ticks off his old black lab while he answerd the phone in his house and maeveled at all the engines in front of us , He came back out and showed us more of his collection in three more old sheads . Wow what a great guy , He is now added to my remember forever list , . I now own the Baker and will bring it to the Badger Steam And Gas Show in August , I still need a baker pump to hook to the monitor but should have one by then , LIFE IS GOOD Rex From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 21 02:42:10 2006 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:42:10 +0000 Subject: [SEL] another old engine, closer to divorce Message-ID: <062120060942.8089.449914720009893B00001F99219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Gee Rex I am jealous....does that mean you won't have room for the "butt buggy" this year???? So where's the pics? Curt Andree > Hi all; > > Picked up a Baker Monitor one and a quarter horse engine yesterday and it don't > need any fixen , it runs has paint , What more could I ask for ? The ole Dodge > has three more bullet holes in it when my Wife saw me comming up the drive with > the iron in the back (forth shot missed) . I guess she don't understand this > engine will be worth millions next year :-) > Anyway I met one of the coolest engine collectors in Wisconsin at the > Plainfield Wi. show and made the deal ,Went to his home on Saturday for the > Engine , he has many engines and tractors and demonstrated a few of his best , > it made my day !, We (a a friend with me) pulled a few ticks off his old black > lab while he answerd the phone in his house and maeveled at all the engines in > front of us , He came back out and showed us more of his collection in three > more old sheads . Wow what a great guy , He is now added to my remember forever > list , . > I now own the Baker and will bring it to the Badger Steam And Gas Show in > August , I still need a baker pump to hook to the monitor but should have one > by then , > LIFE IS GOOD > > Rex > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 21 03:51:49 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:51:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <449924C5.5060909@imc-group.com> Steve, By all means share it. Curt Steve Royster wrote: > > Hi Curt, Do I have your permission to forward this document to the > board of directors at Arden? I think it might make a difference in > attitude. Thanks, Steve > >> From: Curt >> Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >> >> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, SEL >> >> Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH >> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400 >> >> Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >> participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >> mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that >> shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for >> example. No doubt one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine >> show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. >> What a great experience Coolsprings is! >> On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now >> Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will >> not find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by >> borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that >> reads something like: >> "Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my >> Famous??? >> Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided >> to charge >> exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring >> another nice >> engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys >> the Maytag >> is all you get." >> >> Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors >> only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. >> Curt Holland >> Gastonia, NC >> P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and >> other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that >> others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner >> on Saturday night for exhibitors. >> >> >> >> R & M Ingold wrote: >> >>> This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your >>> toys, so be it. >>> I will NOT. My choice. >>> So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >>> Reg & Marg Ingold. >>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >>> >>> >>>> On 20/06/06, John DeBrular wrote: >>>> >>>>> At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They >>>>> will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>>>> exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>>>> Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>>>> They charge you 10% >>>>> quite a bargain. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >>>> charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >>>> basic green field sites. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------040803020008050207020406 >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >> participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >> mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that >> shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for >> example. No doubt one of the finest, if not the finest gas >> engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for >> camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!
>> On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now >> Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not >> find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by >> borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads >> something like:
>> "Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my >> Famous???
>> Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to >> charge
>> exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring >> another nice
>> engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys >> the Maytag
>> is all you get."
>>
>> Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors >> only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and >> clear.
>> Curt Holland
>> Gastonia, NC
>> P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and >> other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that >> others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner >> on Saturday night for exhibitors.
>>
>>
>>
>> R & M Ingold wrote: >>

> type="cite">This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to >> show your toys, so be it. >>
>> I will NOT. My choice. >>
>> So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >>
>> Reg & Marg Ingold. >>
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>
>> > href="mailto:randmingold at hotkey.net.au">randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>
>> > href="http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold">http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >> > href="mailto:listerdiesel at gmail.com"><listerdiesel at gmail.com> >>
>> To: > href="mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org"><stationary-engine at oldengine.org> >> >>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >>
>> Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >>
>>
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>>
On 20/06/06, John DeBrular >> > href="mailto:debrular at charter.net"><debrular at charter.net> >> wrote: >>
>>
At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance >> and camping is free. They >>
>> will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>
>> exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>
>> Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>
>> They charge you 10% >>
>> quite a bargain. >>
>>
>> John >>
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>>
>> In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >>
>> charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >>
>> basic green field sites. >>
>>
>> Peter >>
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>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 21 02:54:13 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:54:13 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <200606161600.k5GG04Oi002436@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606211300156.SM01104@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/06/2006, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:38:26 EDT >From: FRM8198 at aol.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed > >Jerry, > >Thanks for the reponse. >I made the assumption that my engine is a Cushman R12 based on the Massey >Harris Model R Engines Instruction and Parts book that you so kindly sent >me. >I am going by the size of the flywheels (2" x 12"). The information is on >Page 12 - part number 29-113. The reason I was asking about the serial >number >is that two different types of of mixers were used depending on whether the >engine was built before and after serial number 66,000 (See Page 15 - part >number A19-481 or A16-481). Perhaps either one will work as I don't have >any >mixer on the engine. It requires the screw in head type mixer and not >the slip >in type mixer. > >Francis Maciel >Santa Maria, CA Hi Francis, Did you ever find out if the engine number is stamped anywhere else on the casting? I also posted this question to SEL a few months ago but got no response. If you do find out please let me know as I have 2 others (Cushmans) without plates that I would like to find out about. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 21 04:18:57 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:18:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <44992B21.7000002@imc-group.com> Tommy, You are close. The rule is that a qualifying engine (now 3HP or better) allows 2 riders in the vehicle in for free. Additional riders, including your children, are asked to pay. That is where Brown's wife and I got into it a few years ago. While I had a qualifying engine in tow, she was adamant that I was going to pay admission for either my wife or my child for the family of 3 of us in the vehicle. That flew all over me prompting me to write a letter to the board several years ago. I don't know if it affected a policy change or not, because I have not been back since. Curt Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Tom, > I've been going to Denton since '83 and they've never charged. > However, the show is much more "commercialized" than most. Actually, > it never began as an engine and tractor show. It began as a fly in > for a local pilots group. The first year (probably around 1970 or so) > had several planes and folks from the community stopped by. The next > year there were many more planes and many more spectators. After a > few more years it was decided that they needed to have something in > addition to the planes for people to view and a tractor and engine > show was suggested. Gradually the engines and tractors became the > main event with planes taking second place. The crowds then became > so big that there was great concern that spectators could be injured > with the aircraft. The fly in was discontinued and the engine and > tractor show remained. The biggest negative that I hear about the > Denton show is Brown Loflin's wife who does her best to run as many > people off as possible. Definitely not the personality that you need > for a "front" person representing the show. There are a lot of > negatives with Denton, but there are some positives. Its a good show > for the family as there is a lot to do. Crafts, tractor pulls, peddle > pulls, saw mill, veneer, and other displays, running steam engines, an > old time "town" that contains several shops, stores, and displays from > 100 years ago, a real steam train that circles the entire show > grounds, good country music with often times names that you'll > recognize, and other things as well. I'm not trying to plug the show > as its not for everyone, but its good for others. We'll be heading > down next Wednesday. > > Tommy > > > > >> In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> curt at imc-group.com writes: >> >> << On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and >> now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they >> will not find me exhibiting there again >> >> >> >> Curt, >> Is Denton charging for exhibitors now or is it just Arden? >> >> There are two types of shows in my book. One is a show like >> Coolsprings that brings folks from all over displaying a lot of nice >> engines, but it is an "engine show for engine people", drawing few >> spectators to view your exhibit. Then there is a show like Rough and >> Tumble that draws a lot of spectators to view and ask questions about >> your exhibit. >> However, I agree with you: Exhibitor fee shows do not get me and my >> displays. >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. USA >> Germoamer at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jun 21 04:51:27 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:51:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <44992B21.7000002@imc-group.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> <44992B21.7000002@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <449932BF.60001@scrtc.com> Curt, I think that's her rule, not the shows. I've always entered with my wife and 2 kids with no problem. When I see her, I simply ignore her. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Tommy, > You are close. The rule is that a qualifying engine (now 3HP or > better) allows 2 riders in the vehicle in for free. Additional riders, > including your children, are asked to pay. That is where Brown's wife > and I got into it a few years ago. While I had a qualifying engine in > tow, she was adamant that I was going to pay admission for either my > wife or my child for the family of 3 of us in the vehicle. That flew > all over me prompting me to write a letter to the board several years > ago. I don't know if it affected a policy change or not, because I > have not been back since. > Curt From FRM8198 at aol.com Wed Jun 21 07:40:42 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:40:42 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <38b.4a3f172.31cab46a@aol.com> In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:26:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrye at databak.co.za writes: If you do find out please let me know as I have 2 others (Cushmans) without plates that I would like to find out about. Jerry, Great to hear from you. Yes, I am in the same boat - I also have a pair of Cushmans without name tags or plate. The only thing that I found are some casting numbers. I still need a mixer, inspection plate, possibly governor parts, and magneto. To date, I haven't had any luck in locating these item. Completion of this little Cushman R12 engine is a future project. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 -------------------------------1150900842 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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<= /BODY> From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 21 08:01:45 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:01:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Solenoid engine enquiry Message-ID: <20060621.111334.972.3.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Dave, Thanks for posting the info on the Solenoid motors. I DID ask once about making small motors using doorbell coils. I've been reading the past e-mails and not realizing that this might be what I was asking about. I've looked at your Webshots and these are very similar to what I wanted. Thanks for posting. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 21 09:58:58 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:58:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <38b.4a3f172.31cab46a@aol.com> References: <38b.4a3f172.31cab46a@aol.com> Message-ID: <44997AD2.7090507@imc-group.com> Hey, whatever happened to the fellow on the list that used to make reproduction nameplates for engines? Met him at the Orange shows a few years ago. He had a nice Triumph engine ISTR. Curt FRM8198 at aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:26:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >jerrye at databak.co.za writes: > >If you do find out please let me know as I have 2 >others (Cushmans) without plates that I would like to find out about. > > >Jerry, >Great to hear from you. >Yes, I am in the same boat - I also have a pair of Cushmans without name >tags or plate. The only thing that I found are some casting numbers. >I still need a mixer, inspection plate, possibly governor parts, and >magneto. To date, I haven't had any luck in locating these item. Completion of >this little Cushman R12 engine is a future project. > >Francis Maciel >Santa Maria, CA 93454 > > > > > >-------------------------------1150900842 >Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > >Arial"=20 >bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7>e_document=20 >face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3> >

In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:26:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 >jerrye at databak.co.za writes:

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Jerry,

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<= >/BODY> >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 21 12:03:53 2006 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:03:53 EDT Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH Message-ID: <4fb.f5b23e.31caf219@aol.com> Tommy, I had heard the story before on how Denton started as a fly-in show and now grown into a commercial show. And as you said it is a good show for the family to attend with lots of variety to entertain everyone, but down right expensive to get in. It is what I was alluding to when I said Coolspring was an engine show for engine folks. My wife would not enjoy herself there, but she does at Denton due to the country music, etc. I have been going to Denton for a number of years too, but only for one long day. I usually load up an engine to display or sell and get in for free. Hope to get there early on Friday the 30th. Maybe see you there. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 21 19:36:06 2006 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:36:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems Message-ID: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks From mgomaize at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:49:52 2006 From: mgomaize at yahoo.com (Tony Pitts) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine In-Reply-To: <4498A41B.4090809@bordernet.com.au> Message-ID: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, I just finished updating my web site with a bunch of pictures from my local show in Dexter, Michigan. Here is the link to the engine pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-engines.htm And here is a link to tractor pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm Feel free to browse around the site. I just got a Farmall F-20 running that had not run in 50 years. The restoration story to date is on my site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/F20NRestoration.htm Thanks, Tony ------------------------------------------ Tony Pitts Ann Arbor, MI http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf ------------------------------------------ Hudson Mills Old Power Club 16th Annual Show June 1-3, 2007 Dexter, MI http://www.hudsonmills.org --0-1651446565-1150944592=:66936 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hello all,

I just finished updating my web site with a bunch of pictures from my local show in Dexter, Michigan. Here is the link to the engine pictures:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-engines.htm

And here is a link to tractor pictures:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm

Feel free to browse around the site. I just got a Farmall F-20 running that had not run in 50 years. The restoration story to date is on my site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/F20NRestoration.htm

Thanks,

Tony

------------------------------------------
Tony Pitts
Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf
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Hudson Mills Old Power Club
16th Annual Show June 1-3, 2007
Dexter, MI
http://www.hudsonmills.org

From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 22 01:55:30 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:55:30 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <000701c695d9$a14ae600$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks Hi Paul, mine work OK. If you give me your photo addresses I will try yours for you. You can call me on Skype if you wish. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 22 04:10:11 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:11 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================ >From: Tony Pitts > >Hello all, > >And here is a link to tractor pictures: > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm > >Thanks, > >Tony >------------------------------------------ >Tony Pitts >Ann Arbor, MI >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Thu Jun 22 04:12:30 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <017001c695ec$c0e213e0$4f704047@pengy> All of my 2,000 photos are available. Try it again, perhaps they were having technical difficulties and they are fixed now. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 22 04:13:58 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 05:13:58 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: Works for me Paul. Wish I Could help http://community.webshots.com/user/wheelterrapin RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 22 04:54:35 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Re: Solenoid engine enquiry In-Reply-To: <20060621.111334.972.3.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20060621.111334.972.3.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4674.165.206.180.19.1150977275.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I built a solenoid motor for extra credit school project - that tells ya how many years ago. I wound the coil by hand, and used erector set metal parts for much of the rest. That baby would really run great on one of those 1.5v phone batteries like used to be available. I think I still have the coil I wound laying around somewhere. I'd saved some old car solenoids - the types used for opening the trunk, or for the idle solenoid on the carb. Figured one day I'd make one out of one of them and use 12v. Guys (or gals, sorry) who have REAL talent could make one that actually looks decent, too - machine some of the parts, etc. I just did the Red Green thing - used whatever was laying around and made it work. Bill > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for posting the info on the Solenoid motors. > > I DID ask once about making small motors using doorbell coils. > > I've been reading the past e-mails and not realizing that this might be > what I was asking about. > > I've looked at your Webshots and these are very similar to what I wanted. > > Thanks for posting. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 22 04:59:15 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts In-Reply-To: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4498A41B.4090809@bordernet.com.au> <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4694.165.206.180.19.1150977555.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few of the original tanks were galvenized. I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. Thoughts? Comments? Bill Runnells, IA - hey, we got a full tenth of an inch of rain!! WHOOO-HOOOO! I've not seen wet pavement in weeks, literally. From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 22 05:03:15 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 05:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems In-Reply-To: References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <4755.165.206.180.19.1150977795.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Rick - is this your saw? The royal #2? http://community.webshots.com/photo/92945080/1092945261049103604sPhuCx NICE PIECE! VERY NICE!!!! Looks like it's all there and works fine. Bill > Works for me Paul. Wish I Could help > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/wheelterrapin > > RickinMt. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Maples" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems > > > I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a > message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my > Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I > get > this message: > > We're sorry! > The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. > > Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and > still have not heard anything. > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 05:33:34 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:33:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <449A8E1E.2020900@scrtc.com> I have seen them higher Luke. On a couple of occasions I've seen them in the air probably 5 ft, the tractor stops pulling the sled and the driver pushes in the clutch. Bang, the front end hits the ground and it breaks it out from under the tractor. In Louisville several years ago at the National Championship Pull, I saw a guy who wouldn't stop. The front end kept rising until it finally flipped backwards. Luckily he survived but was seriously injured. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously > high? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > ============================ > >> From: Tony Pitts >> >> Hello all, >> >> And here is a link to tractor pictures: >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tony >> ------------------------------------------ >> Tony Pitts >> Ann Arbor, MI >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 22 05:31:56 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 06:31:56 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> <4755.165.206.180.19.1150977795.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: No. Believe that's Pauls. I have one similiar tho. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Webshots Problems > Rick - is this your saw? > The royal #2? > http://community.webshots.com/photo/92945080/1092945261049103604sPhuCx > > NICE PIECE! VERY NICE!!!! > > Looks like it's all there and works fine. > > Bill > > > > Works for me Paul. Wish I Could help > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/wheelterrapin > > > > RickinMt. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Maples" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:36 PM > > Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems > > > > > > I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a > > message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my > > Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I > > get > > this message: > > > > We're sorry! > > The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer > > exists. > > > > Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and > > still have not heard anything. > > > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 22 06:02:43 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:02:43 -0600 Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts References: <4498A41B.4090809@bordernet.com.au><20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4694.165.206.180.19.1150977555.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, although I don't think it would remove the galvanizing, I would probably try some sacrificial galvanized item first before I tried the small parts....and even then, I think I'd try just a small section first. Good Luck RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:59 AM Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts > Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ > > I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - > I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - > although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny > bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - > would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? > Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. > Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few > of the original tanks were galvenized. > I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. > > Thoughts? > Comments? > > Bill > Runnells, IA - hey, we got a full tenth of an inch of rain!! WHOOO-HOOOO! > I've not seen wet pavement in weeks, literally. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 22 07:14:07 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:14:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture Message-ID: <20060622.101409.652.2.jlb94@juno.com> That's a nice action shot. Tractors regularly go that high while pulling. Too bad the flag man is in the way. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 07:51:23 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:51:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts In-Reply-To: <4694.165.206.180.19.1150977555.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <200606221451.k5MEpXL9088934@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of bill at antique-engines.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few of the original tanks were galvenized. I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. Thoughts? Comments? Bill Runnells, IA - hey, we got a full tenth of an inch of rain!! WHOOO-HOOOO! I've not seen wet pavement in weeks, literally. _______________________________________________ Bill -- I just finished electrolytic cleaning of a galvanized tank for my son. The process didn't harm either the zinc galvanizing or the solder joints. I've put a wide variety of metals into the electrolytic vat and as long as they are connected to the negative lead to the power supply they have never been harmed. I've even used electrolysis to take the top layer of crud off badly corroded brass. It worked! Right now I have an ash pit door from an antique stove in the vat. Originally, it was nickel plated. Most of the nickel was flaked off before throwing it into the de-rust tank. Most of the rust came off right away, except for down in the nooks and crannies. So, I've left it in there for about a week. Now, after that long a period it appears as though the electrolysis is lifting off the remaining bits of nickel. It might have been loose in the first place, for all I know. It is what I wanted, but folks who want to preserve plating should be very cautious. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 07:55:03 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:55:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200606221455.k5MEt8Nc098415@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:10 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ~~~~~~~~~ Luke, you are correct. That lady should have been flagged to a stop long before the front wheels got that high. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 08:00:03 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:00:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: <449A8E1E.2020900@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <200606221500.k5MF0Hg2010131@mail-gw.fsr.net> I don't know all the tractor pulling rules, but if it were up to me, a person who refused to stop ought to be disqualified and banned from future pulls at that track. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:34 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture I have seen them higher Luke. On a couple of occasions I've seen them in the air probably 5 ft, the tractor stops pulling the sled and the driver pushes in the clutch. Bang, the front end hits the ground and it breaks it out from under the tractor. In Louisville several years ago at the National Championship Pull, I saw a guy who wouldn't stop. The front end kept rising until it finally flipped backwards. Luckily he survived but was seriously injured. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously > high? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 22 08:10:13 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture. In-Reply-To: <200606221455.k5MEt8Nc098415@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606221455.k5MEt8Nc098415@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <449AB2D5.5020806@imc-group.com> Orrin Iseminger wrote: >Luke, you are correct. That lady should have been flagged to a stop long >before the front wheels got that high. > > > Flag man watching a different front end? :-) Tractor pulling chicks are kewl. There is a local gal 'bout 25, nice slender brunette, long ponytail, in a cowboy hat that pulls tractors. She's damned good at it too and always places well. Even after all these years she gets everyones attention when it's her pull. Curt From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 22 08:23:25 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:23:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts In-Reply-To: <200606221451.k5MEpXL9088934@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606221451.k5MEpXL9088934@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <449AB5ED.4000206@imc-group.com> Bill, Out of curiosity, what brand engine is this that has galvanized fins on it? Hot dip galvanizing is a lot of trouble to go to, especially if you have to go to the trouble to keep it out of cored cavities in a high volume production environment. It is galvanized and not just spray painted that color right? If you have just a little rust on the edges, how about removing the gunk with some brush work and lacquer thinner. The use some Scotchbrite or steel wool to remove the light surface rust. I gotta galvanized question for the group too. Had to make a new battery box top for Devin's engine a year ago as the original galvanized one was missing. It looks like bling on top of the 74 year old aged galvanized battery box. Has anyone experimented with artificially aging galvanized tin to make it look like an original? Curt Holland Gastonia, NC Orrin Iseminger wrote: >Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ > >I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - >I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - >although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny >bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - >would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? >Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. >Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few >of the original tanks were galvenized. >I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. > >T > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Jun 22 09:09:12 2006 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:09:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c69616$33ac88f0$3364a8c0@Eagle> In tractor pulling most things are normal! Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:10 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 08:30:11 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:30:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ Message-ID: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy and sometimes we carry a bit of cash on us (especially if you are buying 2 or 3 engines, heading to a swap meet, etc). Be aware that if you are stopped and its discovered that you have a significant amount of cash on you, it can be held until you prove where it came from. Also you need to know that I have seen recent figures that 1 in 4 paper bills now have some trace of drugs on them due to the increasing drug traffic. As a result, if you are lucky enough to get stopped by a patrolman with a dog and by chance happened to have several thousand in cash in your truck, the dog could possibly sniff drugs in your vehicle. Next would come the search, then seizing of the cash, etc. I don't know the circumstances behind the situation in this article, but perhaps the young lad was heading to purchase one of the expensive large gas tractors (perhaps not too but he'll have to prove where it came from in order to get it back): http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. BTW, if you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From tsmith at hal-pc.org Thu Jun 22 11:07:23 2006 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:07:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> Message-ID: Sounds great but the guy that was selling the drugs is really gonna be torqued when he finds out what the going price is on a old washing machine motor. He may be inclined to change his inventory till he finds out what the side shafts will cost him. >BTW, if >you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel >free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue >County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are >buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on >you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a >Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 22 11:08:11 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:08:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> Tommy, In the event that something like this was to happen to one of us, what is the proper procedure to assure that your money does not get stolen from you by ruthless cops. Is there a form one asks for? Seems like there needs to be some legal document (receipt) in place proving that you indeed handed over X dollars in cash to a cop. I can see the very real possibility that some or all the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no cash being carried by the individual" ! You could easily be out of thousands of dollars. Curt Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy and sometimes > we carry a bit of cash on us (especially if you are buying 2 or 3 > engines, heading to a swap meet, etc). Be aware that if you are > stopped and its discovered that you have a significant amount of cash > on you, it can be held until you prove where it came from. Also you > need to know that I have seen recent figures that 1 in 4 paper bills > now have some trace of drugs on them due to the increasing drug > traffic. As a result, if you are lucky enough to get stopped by a > patrolman with a dog and by chance happened to have several thousand > in cash in your truck, the dog could possibly sniff drugs in your > vehicle. Next would come the search, then seizing of the cash, etc. > I don't know the circumstances behind the situation in this article, > but perhaps the young lad was heading to purchase one of the expensive > large gas tractors (perhaps not too but he'll have to prove where it > came from in order to get it back): > > http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 > > Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. BTW, if > you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel > free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue > County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are > buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on > you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a > Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 11:50:44 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:50:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> Curt, Another note that I forgot to mention. You ask about a receipt. Yes, by all means have the police count the money out in front of you (with all present witnessing it) and give you some sort of receipt verifying the amount. You can write it on anything as long as you get at $ figure and signature. Each state is different. In KY, you are given an inventory of everything that is confiscated. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Tommy, > In the event that something like this was to happen to one of us, what > is the proper procedure to assure that your money does not get stolen > from you by ruthless cops. Is there a form one asks for? Seems like > there needs to be some legal document (receipt) in place proving that > you indeed handed over X dollars in cash to a cop. I can see the very > real possibility that some or all the cash could be pocketed by an > individual or group of cops and the story would be "no judge, there > was no cash being carried by the individual" ! You could easily be out > of thousands of dollars. > Curt > > Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > >> I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy and >> sometimes we carry a bit of cash on us (especially if you are buying >> 2 or 3 engines, heading to a swap meet, etc). Be aware that if you >> are stopped and its discovered that you have a significant amount of >> cash on you, it can be held until you prove where it came from. Also >> you need to know that I have seen recent figures that 1 in 4 paper >> bills now have some trace of drugs on them due to the increasing drug >> traffic. As a result, if you are lucky enough to get stopped by a >> patrolman with a dog and by chance happened to have several thousand >> in cash in your truck, the dog could possibly sniff drugs in your >> vehicle. Next would come the search, then seizing of the cash, etc. >> I don't know the circumstances behind the situation in this article, >> but perhaps the young lad was heading to purchase one of the >> expensive large gas tractors (perhaps not too but he'll have to prove >> where it came from in order to get it back): >> >> http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 >> >> Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. BTW, if >> you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel >> free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue >> County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are >> buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on >> you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a >> Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 11:59:29 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:59:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: <200606221500.k5MF0Hg2010131@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606221500.k5MF0Hg2010131@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <449AE891.7040303@scrtc.com> Orrin, The pro pullers are required to have wheels or a drag on the back of the tractor now that prohibits them from raising too far. I don't know the distance but for some reason 36 inches comes to mind. There are stiff penalties for those who don't abide by the rules. I'm not a tractor puller but my brother in law was really big in it for a while. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >I don't know all the tractor pulling rules, but if it were up to me, a >person who refused to stop ought to be disqualified and banned from future >pulls at that track. > >Regards, > >Orrin > > > > > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 22 11:37:34 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:37:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information/now Brass Spec Plates In-Reply-To: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060622203349.00ac1378@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: >From: Curt >Subject: Re: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Hey, whatever happened to the fellow on the list that used to make >reproduction nameplates for engines? Met him at the Orange shows a few >years ago. He had a nice Triumph engine ISTR. >Curt Hi Curt, It was not me - Never been there - but I do make replica Brass spec. plates - see them at : This is just a bit of unashamed advertising !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 22 11:44:21 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:44:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems In-Reply-To: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606222102125.SM00324@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: >From: "Paul Maples" >Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems > > >I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a >message that this page is no longer available or has moved. >Thanks Hi Paul, It may have been a temporary problem - try clearing your browser's cache as well as the "Reload" button. Hope this helps Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 22 11:58:30 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:58:30 +0200 Subject: [SEL] now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <20060622210278.SM00324@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: >From: "Luke Tonneberger" >Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor > pull picture >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG > >Luke Tonneberger >Rockford, Michigan >USA Hi Luke, We don't have tractor pull competitions here but this reminds me of when I was younger and stupider (some people would say it was the other way around). I tried to pull a stuck truck out of loose sand with my Massey Ferguson 35 using a cable. I just hooked the cable into the tractors top link (it was the most accessible spot) and put her into extra low and started pulling. Before you could say "Stupid Fool" the front wheels were higher than my head. I hit the clutch but it would not release - in desperation I managed to bang the gear lever hard enough to disengage and the tractor fell back to earth - the front wheels bounced a few times but fortunately nothing broke. Since then I ONLY ever hitch a cable to the casting below the front wheels and run it out below the rear axle to the item being towed. Much safer. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 12:10:51 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:10:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <449AEB3B.1040803@scrtc.com> I posted the wrong link a few minutes ago. Curt pointed it out to me and I posted this message to him. The correct link is found in it. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Curt, > Another note that I forgot to mention. You ask about a receipt. > Yes, by all means have the police count the money out in front of you > (with all present witnessing it) and give you some sort of receipt > verifying the amount. You can write it on anything as long as you get > at $ figure and signature. Each state is different. In KY, you are > given an inventory of everything that is confiscated. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > >> >> > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 12:29:18 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:29:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AEB3B.1040803@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> <449AEB3B.1040803@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <449AEF8E.5020704@scrtc.com> Boy, am I having a bad day. Here is the email and link: Yes Curt, wrong link and I apologize. The link I listed was a story about my good friend the Ky Chief Justice who is in some hot water. I was sending it to a friend and mistakenly posted it in the SEL email. Here is the right one: http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189000 Tommy Turner Magnolia, Ky From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 15:28:50 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:28:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / nowtractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: <449AE891.7040303@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <200606222229.k5MMSwR5087441@mail-gw.fsr.net> Good idea. Whew! That's a relief. I'm glad somebody addressed the problem. Many people have been killed by tractors that end-overed onto the operator. It's not an insignificant problem. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / nowtractor pullpicture Orrin, The pro pullers are required to have wheels or a drag on the back of the tractor now that prohibits them from raising too far Snip Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 22 15:44:02 2006 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:44:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems - Thanks Message-ID: <008701c6964d$5ce3a9b0$240110ac@PAUL2> Thanks everyone who wrote in with their suggestions as to what my problem might be in regards to me not being able to access my picture albums on the web. I got the following message from Webshots Support: Hello Paul, Currently there is a bug in the software that causes the "view on web" part of the software to act that way. Our engineers are working on a fix for this. I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing. Regards, Louis Webshots Support www.webshots.com I have developed a "work around" until such time as they can get it fixed so I am good to go now. Thanks again everyone. Paul From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 16:05:14 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:05:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine In-Reply-To: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200606222305.k5MN5SfE087552@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tony Pitts Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:50 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; Farmall/IHC mailing list; Bill Pitts; Charles Pitts; Nebraska Cowman; Barbara Pitts; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine Hello all, I just finished updating my web site with a bunch of pictures from my local show in Dexter, Michigan. Here is the link to the engine pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-engines.htm And here is a link to tractor pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm Feel free to browse around the site. I just got a Farmall F-20 running that had not run in 50 years. The restoration story to date is on my site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/F20NRestoration.htm Thanks, Tony ------------------------------------------ Tony Pitts Ann Arbor, MI http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf ------------------------------------------ Hudson Mills Old Power Club 16th Annual Show June 1-3, 2007 Dexter, MI http://www.hudsonmills.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tony, thank you for the very interesting pix. Thank you for sharing them. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 22 16:24:35 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:24:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000a01c69653$077d6c30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 > > Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. Hi Tommy, The government is filled with opportunists whose goals are to subvert the Constitution in order to serve their personal interests. They are just as bad as the criminals who they claim to oppose. There is no ambiguity in the following passage: No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; Hang 'em high, Judge. Rob From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 22 16:26:57 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:26:57 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <000b01c69653$5c422ad0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> >I can see the very real possibility that some or all >the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group >of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no >cash being carried by the individual" ! Hi Curt, In these parts, the department gets to keep a large portion of whatever they seize. No B.S. It's true. Houses, cars, boats, planes, cash... From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 22 16:30:41 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:30:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine /nowtractor pullpicture References: <200606222229.k5MMSwR5087441@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <000c01c69653$e16432d0$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine /nowtractor pullpicture > Good idea. Whew! That's a relief. I'm glad somebody addressed the > problem. Many people have been killed by tractors that end-overed onto the > operator. It's not an insignificant problem. > Regards, Orrin I still remember in 1978 when I went to my Danish friends museum for the first time. He was trying to move a large horizontal engine into the museum building using a tractor with a rear forklift type loader. He could lift the engine enough to move the tractor forwards & back but the front wheels were 6 Ins off the ground. My English friend & I sat astride the bonnet of the tractor so that the front wheels were hard enough on the ground that he could steer the tractor into the museum doorway. Jens died a few years ago & is a deeply missed friend. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 22 16:49:34 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:49:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots Message-ID: <000801c69656$8462d020$6400a8c0@home> Here is some pics of some of my engines , the Baker Monitor is included , let me know if this link dosen't work , I had them all running but Tyson the Farm master last night while sipping on a 12 pack of Coors Lite , all went well Had fun and slept well Rex Hinz From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 22 16:51:18 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:51:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots Message-ID: <001101c69656$c245b560$6400a8c0@home> Wow I hit send before I put the link on Here it is http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551585036&security=DeqCwx ----- Original Message ----- From: Rex Hinz To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots Here is some pics of some of my engines , the Baker Monitor is included , let me know if this link dosen't work , I had them all running but Tyson the Farm master last night while sipping on a 12 pack of Coors Lite , all went well Had fun and slept well Rex Hinz From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 18:41:13 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:41:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <000b01c69653$5c422ad0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> References: <000b01c69653$5c422ad0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <449B46B9.2010808@scrtc.com> Rob, The Federal Government as well as most states have a forfeiture provision where the police agency that makes the confiscation may keep the proceeds (money, vehicles, boats, planes, property, even antiques) if they can prove the funds/items were received or used for illegal purposes. I'm only aware of a forfeiture in our part of the state via a plea agreement where an individual admits that the money he was carrying was from drug traffic, the vehicle he was driving was used or purchased with drug money or the items (antiques, etc) were used as part of a money laundering scheme. Forfeiture (at least here) is difficult to obtain as well it should be. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >>I can see the very real possibility that some or all >>the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group >>of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no >>cash being carried by the individual" ! >> >> > >Hi Curt, >In these parts, the department gets to keep a large portion >of whatever they seize. No B.S. It's true. Houses, cars, >boats, planes, cash... > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > --------------070708060404010902060400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob,
The Federal Government as well as most states have a forfeiture provision where the police agency that makes the confiscation may keep the proceeds (money, vehicles, boats, planes, property, even antiques) if they can prove the funds/items were received or used for illegal purposes. I'm only aware of a forfeiture in our part of the state via a plea agreement where an individual admits that the money he was carrying was from drug traffic, the vehicle he was driving was used or purchased with drug money or the items (antiques, etc) were used as part of a money laundering scheme. Forfeiture (at least here) is difficult to obtain as well it should be.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY

I can see the very real possibility that some or all
the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group
of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no
cash being carried by the individual" !


Hi Curt,
In these parts, the department gets to keep a large portion
of whatever they seize.  No B.S.  It's true.  Houses, cars,
boats, planes, cash...  


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From isandian at bigpond.net.au Fri Jun 23 00:37:24 2006 From: isandian at bigpond.net.au (Ian Browning) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:37:24 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot References: <200606221600.k5MG05HC010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <006001c69697$de87aee0$0100000a@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Hi all, The comment below on the action shot says it all. Here in Australia we have a widely accepted set of rules for tractor pulling, which among other matters, limits the height of the drawbar (to reduce the likelihood of the front rearing up) and requiring cessation of the pull as soon as the front wheels are discernibly off the ground. The insurance consequences of an injury or fatal accident are just too serious to contemplate! <006001c69697$de87aee0$0100000a@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <00d201c696aa$83b63140$05daa03a@chaos> http://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/face/Face-main/Data-Sums/Trac-Roll-Sum.htm Testimony to that fatg game. Are there no laws about ROPD's ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Browning" To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot > Hi all, > The comment below on the action shot says it all. Here in Australia From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 23 04:31:16 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:31:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot In-Reply-To: <00d201c696aa$83b63140$05daa03a@chaos> References: <200606221600.k5MG05HC010379@heavyiron.atis.net> <006001c69697$de87aee0$0100000a@nsw.bigpond.net.au> <00d201c696aa$83b63140$05daa03a@chaos> Message-ID: <449BD104.7060009@scrtc.com> Derek, All tractors manufactured after sometime in the 80's have to have the ROPS (Roll Over Prevention System). But, the older tractors are not required by law to be retrofitted although many have been. The tractor manufacturers from time to time will have roll over awareness programs and offer specials and discounts on the installation of ROPS. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > http://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/face/Face-main/Data-Sums/Trac-Roll-Sum.htm > > > Testimony to that fatg game. > Are there no laws about ROPD's ? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Browning" > > To: > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:07 PM > Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot > > >> Hi all, >> The comment below on the action shot says it all. Here in Australia > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 05:05:40 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:05:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <001101c69656$c245b560$6400a8c0@home> References: <001101c69656$c245b560$6400a8c0@home> Message-ID: <449BD914.9000201@imc-group.com> Rex, Enjoyed the pictures of your engines. I noticed the his and her garage spaces and am presuming that the Dodge truck is yours (correct Kelley?) and since it is in the garage, this means that the engines must be occupying her side of the garage, displacing her car outside in the weather. Is this a summer only condition as Arnie has done to his wife's car? or year round as it should be? It's only proper that a man's truck and his engines should both be in the dry. In the event that you acquire an engine that would displace your truck temporarily while additional barn/garage space is being built for your truck, it is entirely approprate to expect your wife to scrape your windshield for you in the mornings. Afterall, she will already be doing hers, and it's more efficient if she just goes ahead and scrapes your's at the same time. Don't worry, in time she'll learn to scrape your's first, just give her time. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. Rex Hinz wrote: > Wow I hit send before I put the link on Here it is >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551585036&security=DeqCwx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rex Hinz > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:49 PM > Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots > > > Here is some pics of some of my engines , the Baker Monitor is included , let me know if this link dosen't work , I had them all running but Tyson the Farm master last night while sipping on a 12 pack of Coors Lite , all went well Had fun and slept well > > Rex Hinz >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 23 05:33:19 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:33:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k Message-ID: Hi All, Lyndsay and myself went on a run up to Russell Gilberts last sunday{ 5-6 hour drive} to pick up a stover k 1 1/2HP, talk about country hospitality,saw russells nice new Graham running -beautiful plus some other nice engines,all in all after a very late night it was a very enjoyable night of entertainment,thanks Russell, from Dave and Lyndsay ps the stover is already stripped and half primmered. _________________________________________________________________ Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 23 06:16:12 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:16:12 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... In-Reply-To: <449BD914.9000201@imc-group.com> Message-ID: Curt, Maybe we're missing something by not having a nickname for our engines? After all Arnie has his Lorenz named Sophie and his Crossley named Fat Bastard. When you reach the pinnacle of engine collecting stardom you yourself will get a nick like Novoboy did! http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/images/novoboy.jpg Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============== >From: Curt > >P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. > From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Jun 23 07:27:51 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060622204453.00ac3340@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20060622204453.00ac3340@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <3652.165.206.180.19.1151072871.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Have you ever seen the cable - or chain - break and hit someone in the head? In one case i saw, the cable broke and it snapped like slingshot busting the glass out of the cab. Lucky driver had a cab between him and it or I hate to think........ Bill > At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: > >>From: "Luke Tonneberger" >>Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor >> pull picture >>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >>Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously >> high? >> >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG >> >>Luke Tonneberger >>Rockford, Michigan >>USA > > Hi Luke, > We don't have tractor pull competitions here but this reminds me > of when I was younger and stupider (some people would say it was the other > way around). I tried to pull a stuck truck out of loose sand with my > Massey > Ferguson 35 using a cable. I just hooked the cable into the tractors top > link (it was the most accessible spot) and put her into extra low and > started pulling. Before you could say "Stupid Fool" the front wheels were > higher than my head. I hit the clutch but it would not release - in > desperation I managed to bang the gear lever hard enough to disengage and > the tractor fell back to earth - the front wheels bounced a few times but > fortunately nothing broke. > Since then I ONLY ever hitch a cable to the casting below the > front wheels and run it out below the rear axle to the item being towed. > Much safer. > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 > Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. > www.oldengine.org/members/evans > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 23 08:55:57 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:55:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... Message-ID: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Hi Curt Don't these count? Tillie http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm Norma Jean http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm Douglas http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm Margaret http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm Rex, if your Baker Monitor is as beautiful as mine, you'll understand the reasoning behind the name! Dolly Curt wrote: > > P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 23 08:57:39 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:57:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... Message-ID: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for Arnie to answer emails, bless your heart. Dolly Curt wrote: > P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will > bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 10:09:21 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:09:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> References: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <449C2041.2010503@imc-group.com> Good girl! American gals could sure learn a thing or two from you proper English gals. Your skills and sense of duty and devotion never cease to amaze! Curt :-) Jim French wrote: > > Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for > Arnie to answer emails, bless your heart. > > Dolly > > Curt wrote: > >> P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will >> bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) > > > From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 10:25:43 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:25:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <449C2417.5050006@imc-group.com> Dolly, They sure do. I know chicks that name their cars, lawn mowers, etc., but very few guys that actually name each and everyone of their engines. Luke reminded about 2 of Arnie's named engines, Fat Bastard and Sophia. But I've always had my suspicions that you had a role in the creative naming. 'Till now I hadn't heard the Miss Whiplash/Bamford name, but after listening to the sound byte, it's certainly fitting. Well I better not keep you from your beer and chips duty, so I'll keep this short. Cheers. Curt Jim French wrote: > > Hi Curt > > Don't these count? > Tillie > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > Norma Jean > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm > Douglas > http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm > Margaret > http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm > And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm > > Rex, if your Baker Monitor is as beautiful as mine, you'll understand > the reasoning behind the name! > > Dolly > Curt wrote: > >> >> P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. > > > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 23 10:59:50 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:59:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C2417.5050006@imc-group.com> References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> <449C2417.5050006@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <449C2C16.6000204@insulate.co.uk> Hi Curt Well, I certainly came up with Norma Jean, Tillie was obvious, Douglas was the product of Jim's creative mind (Fairbanks model ... Douglas Fairbanks, Junior), Margaret was named by the Culp family, Jim's brother christened Miss Whiplash and Fat Bastard started life as an SEL Member's engine being called Bing (Crossley), but after unloading it, Jim and Tom decided that Fat Bastard was far more appropriate. Well, must go. Arnie, Jim and Tom have had a busy afternoon loading Tillie up ready for her first visit to the 1000 Engine rally this weekend, so I'd better get their dinner done ;-) Dolly Curt wrote: > Dolly, > They sure do. I know chicks that name their cars, lawn mowers, etc., > but very few guys that actually name each and everyone of their > engines. Luke reminded about 2 of Arnie's named engines, Fat Bastard > and Sophia. But I've always had my suspicions that you had a role in > the creative naming. > 'Till now I hadn't heard the Miss Whiplash/Bamford name, but after > listening to the sound byte, it's certainly fitting. > Well I better not keep you from your beer and chips duty, so I'll keep > this short. Cheers. > Curt > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 23 11:37:24 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:37:24 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <200606231600.k5NG050l002062@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060623203030.00acd410@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 23/06/2006, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:30:11 -0400 >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> > > >I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy > >BTW, if >you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel free >to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue County >Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are buying an >old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on you to pay >for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a Maytag, you can >give me the cash and everyone's happy.... > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY Great Try Tommy, But from what I read, the smell of a Maytag, could also get you into trouble with the sniffer digs ! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 11:59:21 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:59:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Small flywheel pattern work for Leroy CLark. Message-ID: <449C3A09.20306@imc-group.com> Have_ finally_ gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he and Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the pattern in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old timers did far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! I'll keep adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I worked on this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. Hope you enjoy. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC --------------060302070106000804060808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have finally gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he and Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the pattern in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old timers did far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! I'll keep adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I worked on this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. Hope you enjoy.
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Curt Holland
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From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 23 14:25:00 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:25:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Small flywheel pattern work for Leroy CLark. References: <449C3A09.20306@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <006401c6970b$7c865290$4f704047@pengy> Curt, Looks good. The Tod Engine Works foundry has been out of commission for two days. The bottom of the furnace developed a big crack and molten iron began pouring out the bottom. I've had to completely tear down the furnace, build a new bottom and tommorrow after the refractory sets up I'll finish relining and be back in business. I've made a few improvements that hopefully will prevent another cracked bottom. I have a rush job of 16 castings to do by Monday so Zara and I will be there all weekend. Rick PS It looks like a couple of months at the earliest before I can even think about moving operations to the new place. Might even be well into fall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt" To: "SEL" ; "SEL (Oldengine.org)" Cc: "Brice Adams" Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: [SEL] Small flywheel pattern work for Leroy CLark. > Have_ finally_ gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he and > Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the pattern > in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old timers did > far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! I'll keep > adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I worked on > this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. Hope you > enjoy. > > Curt Holland > Gastonia, NC > > > > --------------060302070106000804060808 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > > Have finally gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he > and Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the > pattern in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old > timers did far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! > I'll keep adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I > worked on this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. > Hope you enjoy.
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> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at chartertn.net Fri Jun 23 14:31:53 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:31:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Also, there's Dolly named for Mrs. French, with a purple cooling tank accordingly. One of the Maytags here is Dave, and another is Penelope. Then there's Thomas the Twin, who got renamed Garfield when painted in orange tiger stripes at Portland a few years ago. John On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Jim French wrote: > > Hi Curt > > Don't these count? > Tillie > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > Norma Jean > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm > Douglas > http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm > Margaret > http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm > And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From rex002 at centurytel.net Fri Jun 23 17:59:21 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:59:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthe gals..... References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <000c01c69729$6ed899a0$6400a8c0@home> OK List , I'm not the only one who call their engines names, I've heard a few at diffrent shows call their engines some names I can't repeat here , espicaly one show where a rain shower hit with no warning , when the rain stopped it was time to fire up again OMG had to plug my ears, anyway I put the names on so I remember where,when and how I got them and from whom , I don't really talk to them or take them to movies but once in awhile I'll have a beer with them . and yes Curt I make my wife park her car outside so I can put the engines under cover especialy during winter , I do put the push mower in front of the engines so she don't have to lift it over the engines (don't want her to hurt her back till the two acres are mowed) she can do one acre in about an hour then she takes a break and fixes my meal then finishes the lawn then off to work she goes , sometimes I"m just too nice ! I help her out sometimes , the grass don't grow under my engine trailer. Rex Hinz ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthe gals..... > Also, there's Dolly named > for Mrs. French, with a purple cooling tank accordingly. > > One of the Maytags here is Dave, and another is Penelope. Then there's > Thomas the Twin, who got renamed Garfield when painted in orange tiger > stripes at Portland a few years ago. > > John > > On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Jim French wrote: > >> >> Hi Curt >> >> Don't these count? >> Tillie >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm >> Norma Jean >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm >> Douglas >> http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm >> Margaret >> http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm >> And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm > > > John Culp > Bristol, Tennessee, USA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 23 21:55:29 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:55:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of Kero is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. Russell At 10:33 PM 23/06/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All, Lyndsay and myself went on a run up to Russell Gilberts last >sunday{ 5-6 hour drive} to pick up a stover k 1 1/2HP, talk about country >hospitality,saw russells nice new Graham running -beautiful plus some >other nice engines,all in all after a very late night it was a very >enjoyable night of entertainment,thanks Russell, from Dave and Lyndsay ps >the stover is already stripped and half primmered. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. >http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 23 21:55:29 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:55:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of Kero is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. Russell At 10:33 PM 23/06/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All, Lyndsay and myself went on a run up to Russell Gilberts last >sunday{ 5-6 hour drive} to pick up a stover k 1 1/2HP, talk about country >hospitality,saw russells nice new Graham running -beautiful plus some >other nice engines,all in all after a very late night it was a very >enjoyable night of entertainment,thanks Russell, from Dave and Lyndsay ps >the stover is already stripped and half primmered. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. >http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 24 12:14:35 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:14:35 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <200606241600.k5OG052K021108@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606242117625.SM01276@new.databak.co.za> Sorry Guys - That should have read "sniffer dogs" - fat finger problems. Jerry At 06:00 PM 24/06/2006, you wrote: >Great Try Tommy, > But from what I read, the smell of a Maytag, could also get you >into trouble with the sniffer digs ! > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 >Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. >www.oldengine.org/members/evans > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Best regards Jerry Evans. Visit our website: www.databak.co.za --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From shop at cccomm.net Sat Jun 24 12:42:27 2006 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:42:27 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Aermotor References: <200606242117625.SM01276@new.databak.co.za> Message-ID: <005101c697c6$52cfd9b0$6401a8c0@Shop> Is there any serial number list out there concerning these fluted hopper engines? Thanks Dave From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 06:45:47 2006 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:45:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: And I've been out of town sweating it up in Bakersfield (100+ degrees) earning a living so Rob can buy more toys and afford his top shelf beer. I hate to see him have to drink Coors or Bud swill. -- Kelley On 6/23/06 8:57 AM, "Jim French" wrote: > > Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for Arnie > to answer emails, bless your heart. > > Dolly > > Curt wrote: > >> P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will >> bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 25 07:21:02 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:21:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... References: Message-ID: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Leave him, come and work here and I will drink swill. You are a goddess! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelley Garcia" To: "SEL" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... > And I've been out of town sweating it up in Bakersfield (100+ degrees) > earning a living so Rob can buy more toys and afford his top shelf beer. > > I hate to see him have to drink Coors or Bud swill. > -- > Kelley > > > > On 6/23/06 8:57 AM, "Jim French" wrote: > >> >> Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for Arnie >> to answer emails, bless your heart. >> >> Dolly >> >> Curt wrote: >> >>> P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will >>> bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mholland at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 07:46:29 2006 From: mholland at rustyiron.com (Missy Holland) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Russell, They really missed out if there were no pancakes to eat and AC/DC to dance to. Missy > Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife > who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of > Kero > is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. > Russell > From russell at ncable.com.au Sun Jun 25 14:41:29 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:41:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060626073907.0259b5a8@mail.ncable.com.au> Missy they had a lot of competition to compete with didn't they. And looking back the guys fell a bit short as we never did listen to any ACDC either. Although let Curt know we did give the Bum Crack engine a bit of a run :-) Russell At 10:46 AM 25/06/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Russell, > >They really missed out if there were no pancakes to eat and AC/DC to dance >to. > >Missy > > > Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife > > who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of > > Kero > > is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. > > Russell > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 15:54:44 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:54:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > Leave him, come and work here and I will >drink swill. You, sir, have insulted the honor of m'lady. I demand satisfaction! I challenge you to a duel. Sabres at the morn! Rob P.S. Jeez! To think that a cultured lass would serve anything less than the finest ale! From johnculp at chartertn.net Sun Jun 25 16:01:20 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:01:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> References: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <919929248bbf69147b0a40059b9b4000@chartertn.net> I believe the proper terminology for such an invitation, Mike, would include the words: "I'd drink muddy water, And sleep in a hollow log." John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Jun 25 19:22:38 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:22:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060625222023.01adac20@mail.alltel.net> At 10:46 AM 6/25/2006, you wrote: >Russell, > >They really missed out if there were no pancakes to eat and AC/DC to dance >to. > >Missy Hi Missy, I'm not sure that I'd want to dance with anyone who is AC/DC, but if that sort of thing flips Russell trigger then so be it! Dave From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Jun 25 19:36:06 2006 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:36:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] House on the Rock, on topic Message-ID: <410-2200661262366937@earthlink.net> Did the family vacation thing (will be a few years before I attempt that again) this past week with one of our stops being the House on the Rock in Dodgeville WI. I've heard about the place for some years now and decided that we would go and see it. Was about 4 1/2 hours into the tour of it when I discovered some really BIG engines hanging around. Seems that this guy who collected just about everything also collected some good sized compound double acting engines, all direct connect to dyno's. The worst part of it was that they were hard to see through all the other stuff there and it looked as though someone had taken a disc sander and just went all over them to clean off the rust and that's the way they were left. Seen lots of traction engines there as well, some of them were even sitting about 15 feet off of the floor on brackets coming off the walls. Any one else been there and seen these engines? Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 25 20:24:38 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:24:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... References: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <001801c698d0$0ea52000$536b4b47@mikecomp> Accepted!!!!!!! But instead of sabresesses we will use swords!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... >> Leave him, come and work here and I will >>drink swill. > > You, sir, have insulted the honor of m'lady. I demand > satisfaction! I challenge you to a duel. Sabres at the > morn! > > Rob > > P.S. > Jeez! To think that a cultured lass would serve anything > less than the finest ale! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 25 20:25:49 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:25:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... References: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> <919929248bbf69147b0a40059b9b4000@chartertn.net> Message-ID: <001d01c698d0$38eaf6a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> "And eat grubs and pretend they are Snickers." I know that quote as well. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... >I believe the proper terminology for such an invitation, Mike, would >include the words: > > "I'd drink muddy water, > And sleep in a hollow log." > > John Culp > Bristol, Tennessee, USA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frazer.ben at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 21:26:15 2006 From: frazer.ben at gmail.com (Ben Frazer) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:26:15 +0800 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060625222023.01adac20@mail.alltel.net> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060625222023.01adac20@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <6f6bb9400606252126j7e191707w7caf6aa43fbb2157@mail.gmail.com> Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some pics of the stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later this year. I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin ma). Glad you had a good one. Ben ------=_Part_40155_1249492.1151295975252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some pics of the stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later this year.

I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin ma).

Glad you had a good one.

Ben

From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 25 21:36:23 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:36:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <6f6bb9400606252126j7e191707w7caf6aa43fbb2157@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: G'day Ben, i hope to have it and the 3hp W type stover done before Wedderburn, then i will take the YB and the other two to put on a stover display,Your mother bahaved herself very well, just the usual dancing,you know how it is,c'ya Dave ps will send a pic to you soon. >From: "Ben Frazer" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:26:15 +0800 > >Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some pics of the >stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later this year. > >I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin ma). > >Glad you had a good one. >Ben > >------=_Part_40155_1249492.1151295975252 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >

Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some >pics of the stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later >this year.
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I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin >ma).
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Glad you had a good one.
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Ben

>_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Research and compare new cars side by side at carpoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F833884&_t=54321&_r=hotmail_endtext&_m=EXT From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 22:42:07 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:42:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... In-Reply-To: <001801c698d0$0ea52000$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <000c01c698e3$444a0e60$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > we will use swords!!!! Are you NUTS man? I'm content to just sit here in my chair and hurl pointed jabs in your direction. Rob From ozhornsby at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 01:28:44 2006 From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> G'Day Russell mate! What a great night, that was one I will never forget, and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it up and the freedom of information has now past see. http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well done Kerry Lithgow NSW OZ --- Russell Gilbert wrote: > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > 9.30pm and then the girls > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > probably wondering if we had > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > with nice company. I > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From page at velocitynet.com.au Mon Jun 26 02:43:23 2006 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:43:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k References: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014a01c69904$f774be60$fd2ffea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Oh My! Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Morris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k > G'Day Russell mate! > > What a great night, that was one I will never forget, > and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it > up and the freedom of information has now past see. > http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > > I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well > done > > Kerry > Lithgow NSW OZ > > --- Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > > 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > > probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > > with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > > time. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 26 03:08:57 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:08:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: G'day Kerry, something tells me i am glad we didn't get to the pancake stage when i was up at Russells!!!!!!!! cheers Dave >From: Kerry Morris >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:28:44 -0700 (PDT) > >G'Day Russell mate! > >What a great night, that was one I will never forget, >and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it >up and the freedom of information has now past see. >http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > >I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well >done > >Kerry >Lithgow NSW OZ > >--- Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > > 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > > probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > > with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > > time. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Meet Sexy Singles today @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D22740&_t=751140432&_r=emailtagline_meetsexy_june&_m=EXT From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jun 26 03:28:36 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:28:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthegals..... References: <000c01c698e3$444a0e60$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <001601c6990b$48e70ef0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Thank goodness, I was afraid I was going to have to get out of my chair!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:42 AM Subject: RE: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthegals..... >> we will use swords!!!! > > Are you NUTS man? > I'm content to just sit here in my chair > and hurl pointed jabs in your direction. > > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 04:02:31 2006 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] House on the Rock, on topic In-Reply-To: <410-2200661262366937@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060626110231.88350.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yep , Been there. I find it a fantastic place. Considering that it all started when a guy built a house for his bride around, beside and on top of a big rock in the woods. The way many of the displays are arranged and set up are very unique.Well worth the trip. Ron Tim Christoff wrote: Did the family vacation thing (will be a few years before I attempt that again) this past week with one of our stops being the House on the Rock in Dodgeville WI. I've heard about the place for some years now and decided that we would go and see it. Was about 4 1/2 hours into the tour of it when I discovered some really BIG engines hanging around. Seems that this guy who collected just about everything also collected some good sized compound double acting engines, all direct connect to dyno's. The worst part of it was that they were hard to see through all the other stuff there and it looked as though someone had taken a disc sander and just went all over them to clean off the rust and that's the way they were left. Seen lots of traction engines there as well, some of them were even sitting about 15 feet off of the floor on brackets coming off the walls. Any one else been there and seen these engines? Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron Frost Kersey, PA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4070123&a=30427007&f=0 http://community.webshots.com/user/ron15846 " Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise " --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus there?s much more to come. --0-1345646929-1151319751=:87950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Yep , Been there. I find it a fantastic place. Considering that it all started when a guy built a house for his bride around, beside and on top of a big rock in the woods. The way many of the displays are arranged and set up are very unique.Well worth the trip.

Ron
Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net> wrote:

Did the family vacation thing (will be a few years before I attempt that
again) this past week with one of our stops being the House on the Rock in
Dodgeville WI. I've heard about the place for some years now and decided
that we would go and see it. Was about 4 1/2 hours into the tour of it
when I discovered some really BIG engines hanging around. Seems that this
guy who collected just about everything also collected some good sized
compound double acting engines, all direct connect to dyno's. The worst
part of it was that they were hard to see through all the other stuff there
and it looked as though someone had taken a disc sander and just went all
over them to clean off the rust and that's the way they were left. Seen
lots of traction engines there as well, some of them were even sitting
about 15 feet off of the floor on brackets coming off the walls. Any one
else been there and seen these engines?

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas

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Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus there?s much more to come. From oldironnut at alltel.net Mon Jun 26 04:47:24 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:47:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Good Engine Times In-Reply-To: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> References: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Howdy all, It's been a good couple of weeks in the engine shed so I thought hat I would give you an update. When we were trying to get he Famous ready for the SIAM show we made a big push to get the water pump mounted and all of the plumbing done. Unfortunately, the water pump that I had for it was a centrifugal/vane type pump and coming from the pulley on the crankshaft to the pulley on the pump only gave about a 2-1/2 fold increase in rpm's and that just wasn't enough to pump water. Fortunately the SEL came through and Tommy Turner brought me an original type gear pump to SIAM. Last week, before we took Lincoln to Texas for his annual visit with his grandmother and cousin, Lincoln tackled rebuilding the water pump while I was at work. He got it unstuck with a strap wrench and then used the gear puller to pull the v-belt pulley from the gear pump and the flat pulley from our vane pump. Then he pulled the pump apart, cleaned it, resealed it and got the packing nut ready to be re-packed. The first I even knew that he was working on it was when he called all excited to tell me that the flat belt pulley from the vane pump would fit on the shaft of the gear pump. When I got home he told me how he did everything and the order in which he did it and all that was left for me to say was GREAT JOB! So we re-packed the nut and heated the flat belt pulley and put it on the shaft. This weekend I got the pump mounted, belted and plumbed and we now have a water cooled Famous! It's pumping enough water now that until I get the saw rig finished and belted the engine never will warm up :-). See ya', Mike -- _____________________ Mike Tucker Midway, Kentucky, USA _____________________ From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Jun 26 05:03:22 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:03:22 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060626215632.025aba90@mail.ncable.com.au> Well G'day MATE! I must say Kerry you have done well to keep it all this time. I bet you have been busting to let all the world to see just what they are missing from good Ol Aussie hospitality. I still have a laugh about that night every now and again. I often wonder how Missy is doing with her Australian grammar lessons. :-) I had a few hard decisions to make when letting a few engine go to help fund the new ones but I'm more than pleased now these are home. Kerry by the way the Wentworth Junction Rally is about this time next year. I will give you more details soon. Russell At 01:28 AM 26/06/2006 -0700, you wrote: >G'Day Russell mate! > >What a great night, that was one I will never forget, >and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it >up and the freedom of information has now past see. >http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > >I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well >done > >Kerry >Lithgow NSW OZ > >--- Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > > 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > > probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > > with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > > time. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Mon Jun 26 05:07:38 2006 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:07:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k References: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003501c69919$1ee90e60$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> I think a little under done Kerry. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Morris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k > G'Day Russell mate! > > What a great night, that was one I will never forget, > and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it > up and the freedom of information has now past see. > http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > > I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well > done > > Kerry > Lithgow NSW OZ > > --- Russell Gilbert wrote: > >> I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by >> 9.30pm and then the girls >> started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are >> probably wondering if we had >> pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines >> with nice company. I >> can't see me having a spider problem for quite some >> time. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jun 26 08:11:33 2006 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:11:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Aermotor In-Reply-To: <005101c697c6$52cfd9b0$6401a8c0@Shop> Message-ID: I'd like to know also if anyone has a list. Thanks, Steve >From: "Dave Ernst" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Subject: [SEL] Aermotor >Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:42:27 -0700 > >Is there any serial number list out there concerning these fluted hopper >engines? >Thanks >Dave > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nick at holden1.net Mon Jun 26 08:34:41 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:34:41 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] Astle Park 2006 Message-ID: <449FFE91.000003.03520@YOUR-447023AE6B> Just back from a very good weekend rally The weather was good and some very nice engines Photos on webshots Nick Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon Jun 26 08:16:13 2006 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:16:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. - Cole Drill Parts Availability? Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20060626080601.03056ec0@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com> Hi...... I was asked if I knew of a parts source for the Cole Drill and/or Vise. Most likely as a result of: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/colevise/ on my web site. He is not on the list so please him directly. Address is in message below. >CAN PARTS STILL BE PURCHASED FOR THE COLE DRILL AND VISE?? > >Stan Lanphear >Hill-Martin Corp. >802-476-1000 >802-476-1001 FAX >slanphear at hill-martin.com Regards, Larry Evans Arcadia, Southern California, USA MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From MaytagTwin at aol.com Mon Jun 26 12:11:28 2006 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:11:28 EDT Subject: [SEL] Good Engine Times Message-ID: <2fc.7534744.31d18b60@aol.com> Hi Mike, Good story. Thanks. Lincoln, you can come pack pumps and work on engines here at Poverty Ridge anytime. Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, Missouri In a message dated 6/26/2006 6:56:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, oldironnut at alltel.net writes: When I got home he told me how he did everything and the order in which he did it and all that was left for me to say was GREAT JOB! So we re-packed the nut and heated the flat belt pulley and put it on the shaft. -------------------------------1151349088 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Regards,

Ron Carroll

Clearmont, Missouri

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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Jun 26 22:40:34 2006 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:40:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping Message-ID: <02e201c699ad$23899950$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? I would be grateful if they could email me off list. Thanks. Reg. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From rex002 at centurytel.net Tue Jun 27 17:16:36 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:16:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's Baker monitor now has a Baker Pump Oh Yea ! Message-ID: <000d01c69a48$1f5c18d0$6400a8c0@home> Howdy all ; Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it up and mount it and get it pumping water . Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! Rex Hinz From oldengin at verizon.net Tue Jun 27 13:29:54 2006 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:29:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping References: <02e201c699ad$23899950$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <000c01c69a28$74e2d570$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> > Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? > I would be grateful if they could email me off list. I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 28 01:28:28 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:28:28 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Standard Seperator Engines Message-ID: <000f01c69a8c$d64c4760$3ac10b52@no1> A friend has asked me to try and find out more about these engines. I think that he is thinking of buying one & wants to know about the age of them. He thinks the cooling fan pattern is pertinent to this but would like to know more. Can anyone help please. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed Jun 28 03:52:49 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:52:49 +1000 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Wanted Hercules motor DOOC 4 cyl diesel] - can anyone help Rod? Message-ID: <44A25F81.1050503@steamengine.com.au> -------- Original Message -------- From: rod&sharon Subject: Re: Wanted Hercules motor Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:32:06 +1000 Would appreciate that if you could it might turn something Cheers Rod ---- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Pavlinovich" To: "rod&sharon" Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Wanted Hercules motor > hi Rod, > Sorry mate, I don't have anything. I can pass your request onto an engine > mailing list if you're interested. > > Regards > Paul > > rod&sharon wrote: >> Hi I am looking for a Hercues DOOC 4 cyl diesel complete or parts, any >> info would be appreciated >> Cheers Rod > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/372 - Release Date: 6/21/2006 > > -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From oldengineman at hotmail.com Wed Jun 28 07:09:42 2006 From: oldengineman at hotmail.com (Peter Stauffer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:09:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping In-Reply-To: <000c01c69a28$74e2d570$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: Hi Leroy, I am planning to be at Portland again this year, and would like a camping spot for my truck. Looking forward to seeing you all, soon. Pete Stauffer Hidden away amongst the hills and hollers of southern West Virginia, USA >From: "Leroy" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" , > "oldengine list" >Subject: [SEL] Portland camping >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:29:54 -0400 > > > > >>Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? >>I would be grateful if they could email me off list. > > >I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space for >campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) has >one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", Brice >(Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space or >if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheelin at hotmail.com Wed Jun 28 07:44:27 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:44:27 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Leroy, I will be tenting it again. Won't need much space for that. If you save the same spot again then there is always room for tents behind the campers right next to the river. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ================= >>From: "Leroy" >> >> >>I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space >>for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) >>has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", >>Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >>done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >>ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space >>or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark >> From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 28 12:55:27 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:55:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Leroy's flywheel pattern. Message-ID: <44A2DEAF.3060903@imc-group.com> Put up 5 new pictures of the flywheel pattern work for Leroy. At the bottom of the page at the 6/28/06 update. Hope you enjoy. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC From oldengin at verizon.net Wed Jun 28 14:06:57 2006 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:06:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping References: Message-ID: <002801c69af6$ceaaa500$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Done, it will be good to see you again this year. Leroy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Stauffer" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland camping > Hi Leroy, > > I am planning to be at Portland again this year, and would like a camping > spot for my truck. > Looking forward to seeing you all, soon. > > Pete Stauffer > Hidden away amongst the hills and hollers of southern West Virginia, USA > > >>From: "Leroy" >>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" , >>"oldengine list" >>Subject: [SEL] Portland camping >>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:29:54 -0400 >> >> >> >> >>>Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? >>>I would be grateful if they could email me off list. >> >> >>I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space >>for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) >>has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", >>Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >>done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >>ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space >>or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 > > From oldengin at verizon.net Wed Jun 28 14:07:27 2006 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:07:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping References: Message-ID: <002901c69af6$dd1549b0$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Done, Your spot has been saved.... Leroy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland camping > Leroy, > > I will be tenting it again. Won't need much space for that. If you save > the same spot again then there is always room for tents behind the campers > right next to the river. > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > ================= > >>>From: "Leroy" >>> >>> >>>I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space >>>for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) >>>has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", >>>Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >>>done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >>>ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space >>>or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 > > From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:54:24 2006 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Rex's Baker monitor now has a Baker Pump Oh Yea ! In-Reply-To: <000d01c69a48$1f5c18d0$6400a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20060629025424.24966.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rex, Your engine should be painted red. It is tough to find a Little Monitor that should be painted red, but you did it. You need the ball muffler (not the later bell muffler) and there was never a guard over the gears or a tin disc on the end of the crankshaft. Both of those safety items came later. Also, anyone who tells you the tin disc is a water hopper lid is full of crap. You got that engine from Orvie Schraeder, didnja? Good job, he usually won't sell. Joe --- Rex Hinz wrote: > Howdy all ; > > Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my > baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother > Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , > well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 > and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but > I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I > still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it > up and mount it and get it pumping water . > Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the > pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! > > Rex Hinz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jun 29 03:45:21 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:45:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Looking for John Palmer in the UK In-Reply-To: <449FFE91.000003.03520@YOUR-447023AE6B> References: <449FFE91.000003.03520@YOUR-447023AE6B> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060629204126.0219a388@ncable.com.au> >G'day to our fine English folk! ............... :-) Would any of you guys know of a Mr John Palmer? He often has classifieds in the SEM but my past mags only shows his phone number. Would anyone know if he an e-mail address? Any help would be great. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 29 07:44:35 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:44:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's Baker monitor now has a Baker Pump Oh Yea ! In-Reply-To: <20060629025424.24966.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060629025424.24966.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44A3E753.8070301@imc-group.com> Joe, Please tell us more about red pear hoppered Baker Monitors! Any ball hoppered Monitors I've seen in red and so far any pear hoppered Monitors I've only seen in grey. I just called sleepy teen Devin and went thru the s/n list with him asking him to look for any clues about when there was a color change on the pear hoppered engines. He didn't find a note about it. Have you narrowed down a year or s/n at which there was a color change? Interesting about the tin on the end of the crankshaft. Ours is afixed to the flywheel and that is where it has stayed since the restoration. But what you say makes perfect sense now that I think about it. If one was to use it as a hopper cover, the condensation would run along the inside and drip on the _outside_ of the hopper. The condensate would not run back in the hopper. Pretty keen sleuthing there Joe! Curt Holland Gastonia, NC Joe Prindle wrote: >Rex, >Your engine should be painted red. It is tough to find a Little Monitor >that should be painted red, but you did it. You need the ball muffler (not >the later bell muffler) and there was never a guard over the gears or a >tin disc on the end of the crankshaft. Both of those safety items came >later. Also, anyone who tells you the tin disc is a water hopper lid is >full of crap. >You got that engine from Orvie Schraeder, didnja? Good job, he usually >won't sell. >Joe > >--- Rex Hinz wrote: > > > >>Howdy all ; >> >> Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my >>baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother >>Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , >>well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 >>and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but >>I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I >>still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it >>up and mount it and get it pumping water . >> Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the >>pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! >> >>Rex Hinz >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > > >Joe Prindle >Baraboo, WI USA > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > --------------050900040705080207020502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe,
Please tell us more about red pear hoppered Baker Monitors! Any ball hoppered Monitors I've seen in red and so far any pear hoppered Monitors I've only seen in grey. I just called sleepy teen Devin and went thru the s/n list with him asking him to look for any clues about when there was a color change on the pear hoppered engines. He didn't find a note about it.
Have you narrowed down a year or s/n at which there was a color change?

Interesting about the tin on the end of the crankshaft. Ours is afixed to the flywheel and that is where it has stayed since the restoration. But what you say makes perfect sense now that I think about it. If one was to use it as a hopper cover, the condensation would run along the inside and drip on the outside of the hopper. The condensate would not run back in the hopper. Pretty keen sleuthing there Joe!

Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Joe Prindle wrote:

Rex, Your engine should be painted red. It is tough to find a Little Monitor that should be painted red, but you did it. You need the ball muffler (not the later bell muffler) and there was never a guard over the gears or a tin disc on the end of the crankshaft. Both of those safety items came later. Also, anyone who tells you the tin disc is a water hopper lid is full of crap. You got that engine from Orvie Schraeder, didnja? Good job, he usually won't sell. Joe --- Rex Hinz <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:

Howdy all ; Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it up and mount it and get it pumping water . Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! Rex Hinz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 30 02:49:31 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:49:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Great people on this list. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060630104209.00b10dd0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, I'd like to share an experience with you all. I've always said that these engine lists have some of the greatest guys as members - well Reg Ingold must be right there at the top of this list. I'm busy restoring a 1928 Wolseley Type R as many of you know. About a month ago I posted en enquiry to the lists about the damaged magneto gear. Reg mailed me and offered to make one up for me if I gave him the sizes etc. Well I eventually managed to do the drawings yesterday and mailed them to Reg at about 7:30 pm (South African time) last night. This morning at 7:20 am I logged on to get my mail expecting something from Reg - possibly asking for a bit more info or suchlike - maybe a missing size. Imagine my amazement when Reg's mail included pics of him making the gear as well as a pic of the completed gear. Not only that but he had already posted it and it was on it's way to me in S.A. All this and his mail was sent within 8 hours of my original mail. Well done and thanks a million Reg - you're a great friend. I just wish Bromps had given you this kind of service. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From oiseming at moscow.com Fri Jun 30 11:23:02 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:23:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Headed for Buhl, Idaho Message-ID: <200606301823.k5UINFFu090929@mail-gw.fsr.net> I'm headed out the door for the EDGE&TA Northwest Regional show at Buhl, Idaho. Here's hoping I'll get to meet some of you, there. Harry Matthews has already arrived; I'll be looking forward to meeting him. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Jun 1 03:04:38 2006 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:04:38 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Grease cups Message-ID: <060120061004.6618.447EBBB5000EBE47000019DA219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Looking for a matching set of three grease cups to complete my Sandwich engine restoration. Must be 1/8" pipe thread size and not reproduction ones. thankyou in advance, Curt Andree From pjp at steamengine.com.au Thu Jun 1 03:23:41 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:23:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A request for the Assies: Fuel sprayer needed for a Petter 6hp Message-ID: <447EC02D.4020806@steamengine.com.au> Can anyone help this guy with his parts needs? Please reply to him direct. Regards Paul -------- Original Message -------- Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 23:37:43 +0930 From: Ray Webb Subject: sprayer Hi Paul, Would you know where i can buy a fuel sprayer for Petter 6HP. SType engine. Even parts of a sprayer would be a start.. I have a complete engine fully restored and borrow a sprayer to exhibit my engine. Your`s Ray Webb. -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jun 1 04:29:20 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Ebay Item - CH&E Bilge Pump In-Reply-To: <447E638D.6070207@scrtc.com> References: <447E638D.6070207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I also noticed that one on eBay. I've got one just like it, but on the factory cart. I was pleased to see that it was that grungy yellow color. As I had been working on mine I was pretty sure that it was original paint, but couldn't imagine anyone actually doing that color. 8-)) http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/SE-List-Memb-Eng/Fero/Arnie_New/ I've had it for a few years now and really need to get the work on it finished and get it out to a show. There's a nice article on the restoration of one in GEM. http://www.gasenginemagazine.com/complete-archive/5895 To date, those are the only ones that I've seen. Does anyone know of others? See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com On Wed, 31 May 2006, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Here is a pretty neat set up that's on ebay. The CH&E Engines are hard > to come by and I've never seen one with a direct connected pump outfit. > The item number is: 7624035325 From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 1 05:28:04 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Grease cups In-Reply-To: <060120061004.6618.447EBBB5000EBE47000019DA219792676103010CD2079C080C0 3BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <060120061004.6618.447EBBB5000EBE47000019DA219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <3748.165.206.180.19.1149164884.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Wish I'd known that a week ago....... there was some good deals on grease cups the right size/capacity at Waukee. I bought a few odds and ends for spares. I'm working my way back to the corner to pull my Sandwich out to see if I can get it going for this season. Needs a lot of work, however. Bill > Looking for a matching set of three grease cups to complete my Sandwich > engine > restoration. Must be 1/8" pipe thread size and not reproduction ones. > thankyou in advance, > Curt Andree > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pjp at steamengine.com.au Thu Jun 1 05:56:28 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:56:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] Message-ID: <447EE3FC.7050207@steamengine.com.au> I got this question today in the mail - please reply on list as I think others would be interested in this one. sir, just another confusing question, in some write ups i read people say count the number of teeths on the fly wheel and divide by 360 to get degree per tooth. and in some some write up they say 360 divide by number of teeth to get degree per tooth. in this case i dont know which is the correct one, i will appreciate clarification on this thanks Nathan -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From peter at loud-n-clear.net Thu Jun 1 06:44:43 2006 From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:44:43 +0100 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] In-Reply-To: <447EE3FC.7050207@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <007b01c68581$8a5772a0$8335c53e@doc> 360 degrees divided by number of teeth will give degrees per tooth. Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > Paul Pavlinovich > Sent: 01 June 2006 13:56 > To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] > > I got this question today in the mail - please reply on list > as I think others would be interested in this one. > > > > sir, > just another confusing question, in some write ups i read people say > count the number of teeths on the fly wheel and divide by 360 to get > degree per tooth. and in some some write up they say 360 divide by > number of teeth to get degree per tooth. in this case i dont > know which > is the correct one, i will appreciate clarification on this thanks > Nathan > > -- > > pjp at steamengine.com.au > Emerald, Victoria, Australia > www.steamengine.com.au > Pete -- Peter Scales From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 1 06:51:58 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:51:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ebay Item - CH&E Bilge Pump In-Reply-To: References: <447E638D.6070207@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <447EF0FE.7010907@scrtc.com> Arnie, Yeah, I haven't seen many, maybe 2 or 3 in all the shows I've been to through the years. CH&E primarily made units that were mounted under table saws and similar applications. Thats the reason they often have the small heavy flywheels. I would think they could have a few problems with an engine running under a table thats making a lot of sawdust. Evidentily CH&E catered to the construction industry. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi Tommy, > >I also noticed that one on eBay. I've got one just like it, but on the >factory cart. I was pleased to see that it was that grungy yellow color. >As I had been working on mine I was pretty sure that it was original >paint, but couldn't imagine anyone actually doing that color. 8-)) > > From rbackus at ogdenpubs.com Thu Jun 1 11:38:32 2006 From: rbackus at ogdenpubs.com (Richard Backus) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:38:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 In-Reply-To: <200605311600.k4VG051Z022827@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Good points, Arnie. And when I said I think the hobby's peaked, in no way did I meant to imply that it's run out of steam. Hardly, we all know that's not true. I was simply trying to underscore my feeling that, compared to 10 years ago, the hobby is running a different course, and for many of the reasons you've outlined. Your points on the web are particularly relevant, because it has fundamentally changed the landscape. It hasn't made magazines like GEM irrelevant, but as you properly noted magazines like GEM, TOMM and SEM no longer have the priority they once enjoyed, because information is now so much more available. And that's a good thing, in my view, even if it makes life a challenge in other ways. And you're also on target guessing that GEM will evolve to include more internally-generated material. That's a must, but even so, it won't happen without the experienced input of readers, who are the lifeblood of any title, suggesting topics, issues, etc. The small show reports as they appeared in every issue in years back will certainly become a smaller part, as they have already in the past few years. Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire you as our official mouthpiece!! Regards, Richard -- Richard S. Backus Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam Traction 1503 SW 42nd St. Topeka, KS 66609-1265 Phone: 785-274-4383 Fax: 785-274-4305 http://www.ogdenpubs.com http://www.farmcollector.com > From: > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:00:05 -0400 > To: > Subject: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > > I'm not sure that I'd agree that the old engine hobby has peaked. Rather, > I think GEM (and other similar "interest" mags) are feeling the effects of > the net. In the 80's and 90's folks would send you a roll of film with a > brief show report. There would be many of those. Today, folks whip out a > web page show report with words and photos in a matter of hours after > returning from a show. The "news" of the show report gets distributed > world-wide via a number of forums like this one. The timeliness of that > medium is impossible to match with a printed magazine. > > The net has also forever changed the way a lot of old iron is bought and > sold. Engines are advertised on a variety of "Classified Ad" pages or put > up for sale on eBay. > > Finally, the "what is it" or "how do I" types of questions are now posted > and answered in minutes via the net. > > Those three categories alone represent a chunk of displaced content for > GEM (and the other mags). > > My guess is that GEM will evolve to include far more editorial-generated > content and far less of the "this was our local show" or "here's my new > engine" content that was in many of the older issues. > > It may be a bit tricky identifying just what the "new GEM" should look > like and managing the transition in format, but I for one am looking > forward to the "newer and better" GEM. Good luck! > > See ya, Arnie From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 1 13:14:36 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] In-Reply-To: <007b01c68581$8a5772a0$8335c53e@doc> References: <447EE3FC.7050207@steamengine.com.au> <007b01c68581$8a5772a0$8335c53e@doc> Message-ID: <1149.165.206.180.19.1149192876.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Here's the rule: If you have "something per something else", write it this way: something/something else Now say this: something divided by something else. Works for anything. Degrees per tooth = degrees/tooth = 360 divided by number of teeth. Miles per gallon = miles/gallon = miles driven divided by gallons used If you drove 100 miles and used 10 gallons, it's 100 miles per 10 gallons or 100/10 or 10 miles per gallon (100 divided by 10). Bill > 360 degrees divided by number of teeth will give degrees per tooth. > > Regards > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> Paul Pavlinovich >> Sent: 01 June 2006 13:56 >> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org >> Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: flywheel degree] >> >> I got this question today in the mail - please reply on list >> as I think others would be interested in this one. >> >> >> >> sir, >> just another confusing question, in some write ups i read people say >> count the number of teeths on the fly wheel and divide by 360 to get >> degree per tooth. and in some some write up they say 360 divide by >> number of teeth to get degree per tooth. in this case i dont >> know which >> is the correct one, i will appreciate clarification on this thanks >> Nathan >> >> -- >> >> pjp at steamengine.com.au >> Emerald, Victoria, Australia >> www.steamengine.com.au >> > Pete > -- > Peter Scales > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mullt at att.net Thu Jun 1 12:09:35 2006 From: mullt at att.net (mullt at att.net) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:09:35 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 Message-ID: <060120061909.3375.447F3B6F00013CC700000D2F21603763169B04049A03@att.net> Perhaps GEM will evolve like many other print publications are these days and have both a print version of the publication and an online version. I wrote a two part technical article for a trade journal a few years ago. They put the first part in the print version of the journal and the second part in the online journal. Tom in St. Louis -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Richard Backus > Good points, Arnie. And when I said I think the hobby's peaked, in no way > did I meant to imply that it's run out of steam. Hardly, we all know that's > not true. I was simply trying to underscore my feeling that, compared to 10 > years ago, the hobby is running a different course, and for many of the > reasons you've outlined. > > Your points on the web are particularly relevant, because it has > fundamentally changed the landscape. It hasn't made magazines like GEM > irrelevant, but as you properly noted magazines like GEM, TOMM and SEM no > longer have the priority they once enjoyed, because information is now so > much more available. And that's a good thing, in my view, even if it makes > life a challenge in other ways. > > And you're also on target guessing that GEM will evolve to include more > internally-generated material. That's a must, but even so, it won't happen > without the experienced input of readers, who are the lifeblood of any > title, suggesting topics, issues, etc. The small show reports as they > appeared in every issue in years back will certainly become a smaller part, > as they have already in the past few years. > > Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire > you as our official mouthpiece!! > Regards, > Richard > -- > Richard S. Backus > Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles > Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam > Traction > 1503 SW 42nd St. > Topeka, KS 66609-1265 > Phone: 785-274-4383 > Fax: 785-274-4305 > http://www.ogdenpubs.com > http://www.farmcollector.com > > > > From: > > Reply-To: > > Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:00:05 -0400 > > To: > > Subject: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > > > > I'm not sure that I'd agree that the old engine hobby has peaked. Rather, > > I think GEM (and other similar "interest" mags) are feeling the effects of > > the net. In the 80's and 90's folks would send you a roll of film with a > > brief show report. There would be many of those. Today, folks whip out a > > web page show report with words and photos in a matter of hours after > > returning from a show. The "news" of the show report gets distributed > > world-wide via a number of forums like this one. The timeliness of that > > medium is impossible to match with a printed magazine. > > > > The net has also forever changed the way a lot of old iron is bought and > > sold. Engines are advertised on a variety of "Classified Ad" pages or put > > up for sale on eBay. > > > > Finally, the "what is it" or "how do I" types of questions are now posted > > and answered in minutes via the net. > > > > Those three categories alone represent a chunk of displaced content for > > GEM (and the other mags). > > > > My guess is that GEM will evolve to include far more editorial-generated > > content and far less of the "this was our local show" or "here's my new > > engine" content that was in many of the older issues. > > > > It may be a bit tricky identifying just what the "new GEM" should look > > like and managing the transition in format, but I for one am looking > > forward to the "newer and better" GEM. Good luck! > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 1 15:12:55 2006 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:12:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] More Rusty Iron Message-ID: <3fb.2f27b93.31b0c067@aol.com> In a message dated 5/31/2006 3:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: << The rod oilers are a neat feature though. >> Thanks Tommy. I have never seen one and learned something new today, something Millie says we should try to do each day! I assume they must be fairly rare and worth a little change when found. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 1 15:31:44 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:31:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] More Rusty Iron In-Reply-To: <3fb.2f27b93.31b0c067@aol.com> References: <3fb.2f27b93.31b0c067@aol.com> Message-ID: <447F6AD0.4090500@scrtc.com> Tom, The rod greasers (either self feed or manual feed) were by far the most popular method to lube the rod bearing. A few used the wick type lube method where there would be a wick either extending from the rod or from a fixed point above the rod. The wick would wipe oil off of a fixed oiler and it would in turn lube the rod. I know that Fairbanks Morse and a couple of other builders used an oil ring where an oiler with a tube attached to the bottom would drip oil into a ring attached to the crank throw. Centrifugal force would make the oil sling to the outside of the ring and it would then travel into the rod (via a drilled hole in the throw) and lube it. Then there were the rod oilers as I mentioned. Tommy Turner Magnolia, Ky >In a message dated 5/31/2006 3:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: > ><< The rod oilers are a neat > feature though. >> > > >Thanks Tommy. I have never seen one and learned something new today, >something Millie says we should try to do each day! I assume they must be fairly >rare and worth a little change when found. > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. USA >Germoamer at aol.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 1 19:30:10 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:30:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200606020230.k522UL5B032299@mail-gw.fsr.net> That might not be a half-bad idea. Arnie has a good head on his shoulders and a knack for putting across his common-sense ideas about a topic, no matter what it is. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Backus Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:39 AM To: SEL Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 Major snip Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire you as our official mouthpiece!! Regards, Richard -- Richard S. Backus Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam Traction 1503 SW 42nd St. Topeka, KS 66609-1265 Phone: 785-274-4383 Fax: 785-274-4305 http://www.ogdenpubs.com http://www.farmcollector.com From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Jun 1 20:10:26 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:10:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Set Up Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601224359.02b44d90@mail.alltel.net> Hi All, I talked to Jake Faith this afternoon about the SEL set up at Coolspring this year. We will be in the same place this year as we have been in years past--2nd row all the way to the end near the trees. We will not be able to park our trucks under the trees this year. Engines will be set up there. Because of that I asked Jake for an additional 30 yds in our row so that everyone could park their truck with their display. I'll be setting the SEL area up on Tues. (June 13th.) There will be an SEL sign at the end of the 2nd row indicating that you need to go to the right to find our area. (Ask Jake where we are if you get lost!) Please fill things in as far down as possible so that if we do not need all the space by Friday we can relinquish some of it and still all be together. Thanks! Dave PS, Next year (2007) you will need proof of insurance to use a but buggy at Coolspring. This year you DO NOT need such proof. From rotigel at alltel.net Thu Jun 1 20:12:55 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:12:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <200606020230.k522UL5B032299@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606020230.k522UL5B032299@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601231057.02bbd898@mail.alltel.net> The problem here is that as a nuke engineer at Westinghouse Arnie makes in the neighborhood of $1,750.00 per hour. I'm not sure that GEM can afford him! Dave At 10:30 PM 6/1/2006, you wrote: >That might not be a half-bad idea. Arnie has a good head on his shoulders >and a knack for putting across his common-sense ideas about a topic, no >matter what it is. > >Best regards, > >Orrin > >Orrin Iseminger >Colton, Washington, USA >http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm >So many projects. So little time. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Backus >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:39 AM >To: SEL >Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > >Major snip > >Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire >you as our official mouthpiece!! >Regards, >Richard >-- >Richard S. Backus >Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles >Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam >Traction >1503 SW 42nd St. >Topeka, KS 66609-1265 >Phone: 785-274-4383 >Fax: 785-274-4305 >http://www.ogdenpubs.com >http://www.farmcollector.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kkinney at herculesengines.com Thu Jun 1 20:49:42 2006 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:49:42 -0000 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Classic Iron In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060531114704.02cdf2c8@mail.alltel.net> References: <4475BD69.7000102@imc-group.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060626120714.0211b378@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060529233945.02c7f910@mail.alltel.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060630222259.0212fe30@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060531114704.02cdf2c8@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060702224837.023dd570@herculesengines.com> Dave What hotel are you staying at? Thanks. Keith At 10:52 AM 5/31/2006, you wrote: >Hi Keith, > GREAT! I have a Witte drag saw also, but I need to have the > WICO rebuilt so I guess that I'll leave that one at home. I don't > know too much about operating a drag saw, but WC (at the Cotton > Ginning Show last year) showed me lots of tips that I can pass > along to you. See you on Thursday the 8th. I should pull in about 5:00/6:00 pm! > Dave >PS, I'm in the market for a Hercules built drag saw. Keep me in mind! > >At 11:24 PM 6/30/2006, you wrote: >>Dave >>Sounds like a great display. Glenn has volunteered to bring you >>some logs. I think I'll try to bring our Economy log saw. We've >>never tried to actually cut a log with it. >>Keith >> >> >> >>At 10:49 PM 5/29/2006, you wrote: >>>Hi Keith, >>> I'll be there and will be bringing an Ottawa Drag saw >>> that I intend to use to make "rounds" about one/two inch thick. >>> What are the chances of someone (that's you, white man) bringing >>> an oak log or two for me to work on. (Or letting me know who to >>> contact in order to obtain such raw material.) I'd need two of >>> them 8 to 10 feet long and 15 to 20 inches (or so) in dia. >>> Dave >>>PS, I was at the Wapakoneta show this weekend and the Ottawa went >>>through a 28 5/8" black oak log in about 10 minutes. I've >>>sharpened the blade for SIAM! >>> >>>At 01:15 PM 6/26/2006, you wrote: >>>>I don't have a source for the cedar logs and your right, the >>>>smell and color are nice. But, this winter dad and I started >>>>clearing a field that had not been cropped for about 15 >>>>years. It had grown up with a bunch of 4-6" trees. We cut them >>>>in 8-12' lengths and set them aside planning on cutting them into >>>>firewood, or disks, at the SIAM show. We have a large pickup >>>>load. With at least 3 saw rigs going we should be able to cut >>>>them into fire wood in about a half hour.:-) With disks and less >>>>aggressive cutting they should last the weekend. >>>> >>>>Who all is planning on coming to SIAM? So far I know of Curt, >>>>Mike, Glenn, Andy and myself. Any others? >>>> >>>>Keith >>>>www.herculesengines.com >>>> >>>>At 09:21 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote: >>>>>Andy Glines wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm not quite sure what you are looking for. We may have >>>>>> some cedar logs for the sawmill. You could saw up the slabs >>>>>> from the cedar logs or any other slabs for that matter. >>>>> >>>>>Andy, >>>>>What I have traditionally done is cut up small cedar trees of 6 >>>>>to 8" in diameter. I cut these wafers about a 1/2" thick. The >>>>>purple heart and great smell of cedar is found neat by most >>>>>spectators. Generally as fast as I can cut these the spectators >>>>>are taking them home with them. >>>>>Eventually I would like to make a Cotton Ginning Days logo brand >>>>>that could be burned into the wafers. I think your blacksmith >>>>>already has done this with a SIAM brand. >>>>>Curt >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>>Keith Kinney >>>>Evansville, Indiana USA >>>>www.HerculesEngines.com >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>Keith Kinney >>Evansville, Indiana USA >>www.HerculesEngines.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney Evansville, Indiana USA www.HerculesEngines.com From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 2 02:53:17 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 05:53:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Set Up References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601224359.02b44d90@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <001501c6862a$5fb4a320$4f704047@pengy> Dave, My wife and I will be at Coolsprings on Thursday but I don't think I'll be advertising my casting services this year. I'm literally swamped with work as it is and don't want to make any promises I can't keep. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring SEL Set Up > Hi All, > I talked to Jake Faith this afternoon about the SEL set up at Coolspring > this year. We will be in the same place this year as we have been in years > past--2nd row all the way to the end near the trees. We will not be able > to park our trucks under the trees this year. Engines will be set up > there. Because of that I asked Jake for an additional 30 yds in our row so > that everyone could park their truck with their display. > I'll be setting the SEL area up on Tues. (June 13th.) There will be an SEL > sign at the end of the 2nd row indicating that you need to go to the right > to find our area. (Ask Jake where we are if you get lost!) Please fill > things in as far down as possible so that if we do not need all the space > by Friday we can relinquish some of it and still all be together. Thanks! > Dave > PS, Next year (2007) you will need proof of insurance to use a but buggy > at Coolspring. This year you DO NOT need such proof. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 05:31:31 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:31:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Classic Iron In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060702224837.023dd570@herculesengines.com> References: <4475BD69.7000102@imc-group.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060626120714.0211b378@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060529233945.02c7f910@mail.alltel.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060630222259.0212fe30@herculesengines.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060531114704.02cdf2c8@mail.alltel.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20060702224837.023dd570@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060602082650.02bc1ce0@mail.alltel.net> I'm at the Super 8 at 19601 Elpers Road. That's the one at Interstate 64, Exit 25A See: http://www.super8.com/Super8/control/Booking/map?pid=08597&brandInfo=SE&latitude=381465&longitude=-875505&ShowPOIs=N&ClickRecenter=Y&MQZoom=6&url=FDR2dmwjDE%3Bu759f%3AHODc8xnM6bd*VJ%13M%3DTPF3b%2Cbg9wzs%26%3Dyad47s%26%40%24%3A%26%40%24a%26w82%26a72%26MDUV%26FDBBD%7Clr25g4%24.5z8su4%24%3A%26%40%24%3A%26%401sl%40%3AHOOxiwJdvndg%7C%17N%10M&brand_selected=SE Dave At 11:49 PM 7/2/2006, you wrote: >Dave >What hotel are you staying at? >Thanks. >Keith > >At 10:52 AM 5/31/2006, you wrote: >>Hi Keith, >> GREAT! I have a Witte drag saw also, but I need to have the WICO >> rebuilt so I guess that I'll leave that one at home. I don't know too >> much about operating a drag saw, but WC (at the Cotton Ginning Show last >> year) showed me lots of tips that I can pass along to you. See you on >> Thursday the 8th. I should pull in about 5:00/6:00 pm! >> Dave >>PS, I'm in the market for a Hercules built drag saw. Keep me in mind! >> >>At 11:24 PM 6/30/2006, you wrote: >>>Dave >>>Sounds like a great display. Glenn has volunteered to bring you some >>>logs. I think I'll try to bring our Economy log saw. We've never tried >>>to actually cut a log with it. >>>Keith >>> >>> >>> >>>At 10:49 PM 5/29/2006, you wrote: >>>>Hi Keith, >>>> I'll be there and will be bringing an Ottawa Drag saw that I >>>> intend to use to make "rounds" about one/two inch thick. What are the >>>> chances of someone (that's you, white man) bringing an oak log or two >>>> for me to work on. (Or letting me know who to contact in order to >>>> obtain such raw material.) I'd need two of them 8 to 10 feet long and >>>> 15 to 20 inches (or so) in dia. >>>> Dave >>>>PS, I was at the Wapakoneta show this weekend and the Ottawa went >>>>through a 28 5/8" black oak log in about 10 minutes. I've sharpened the >>>>blade for SIAM! >>>> >>>>At 01:15 PM 6/26/2006, you wrote: >>>>>I don't have a source for the cedar logs and your right, the smell and >>>>>color are nice. But, this winter dad and I started clearing a field >>>>>that had not been cropped for about 15 years. It had grown up with a >>>>>bunch of 4-6" trees. We cut them in 8-12' lengths and set them aside >>>>>planning on cutting them into firewood, or disks, at the SIAM >>>>>show. We have a large pickup load. With at least 3 saw rigs going we >>>>>should be able to cut them into fire wood in about a half >>>>>hour.:-) With disks and less aggressive cutting they should last the weekend. >>>>> >>>>>Who all is planning on coming to SIAM? So far I know of Curt, Mike, >>>>>Glenn, Andy and myself. Any others? >>>>> >>>>>Keith >>>>>www.herculesengines.com >>>>> >>>>>At 09:21 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote: >>>>>>Andy Glines wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not quite sure what you are looking for. We may have some >>>>>>> cedar logs for the sawmill. You could saw up the slabs from the >>>>>>> cedar logs or any other slabs for that matter. >>>>>> >>>>>>Andy, >>>>>>What I have traditionally done is cut up small cedar trees of 6 to 8" >>>>>>in diameter. I cut these wafers about a 1/2" thick. The purple heart >>>>>>and great smell of cedar is found neat by most spectators. Generally >>>>>>as fast as I can cut these the spectators are taking them home with them. >>>>>>Eventually I would like to make a Cotton Ginning Days logo brand that >>>>>>could be burned into the wafers. I think your blacksmith already has >>>>>>done this with a SIAM brand. >>>>>>Curt >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>>>Keith Kinney >>>>>Evansville, Indiana USA >>>>>www.HerculesEngines.com >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>SEL mailing list >>>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SEL mailing list >>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>>Keith Kinney >>>Evansville, Indiana USA >>>www.HerculesEngines.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >Keith Kinney >Evansville, Indiana USA >www.HerculesEngines.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp at steamengine.com.au Fri Jun 2 06:37:27 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:37:27 +1000 Subject: [SEL] The online event calendar is back on my site Steam & Engine of Australia Message-ID: <44803F17.8020503@steamengine.com.au> Some of you may remember the horrible flaky event calendar that was hosted on my site Steam & Engine of Australia which would periodically drop all the events people had entered. To cut a long story short, I got sick of the software available and wrote my own from scratch in 'c' (ok, so I'm old school - I *like* writing my own code :). You can reach it here: http://www.steamengine.com.au/cgi-bin/calendar?db=events If you get a message about the calendar being offline when using the menu - refresh your browser and try again - lots of browsers seem to cache the sites java based menu for ever! The help link won't give you anything useful right now because I've not written it yet. Please don't use the calendar for things like your clubs workdays or regular running days - this is for special events. btw. Thanks heaps to the beta testers who put up with my dodgy code and tested the product to help make it "safe" for the general populace. Thanks also to the couple of very persistent guys who simply would not take "no" for an answer and pushed me into making the product easier to use. Regards Paul -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 2 11:44:31 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:44:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <200606021600.k52G05jH013691@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060602203538.0293b1f8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 02/06/2006, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:37:27 +1000 >From: Paul Pavlinovich >Subject: [SEL] The online event calendar is back on my site Steam & > Engine of Australia > >Some of you may remember the horrible flaky event calendar that was hosted >on my site > >school - I *like* writing my own code :). > >You can reach it here: >http://www.steamengine.com.au/cgi-bin/calendar?db=events > >Regards >Paul Hi Paul, It works great - thanks. I've entered our clubs upcoming show (first weekend - September) and had no problems. Now all we need is for some of you guys on the lists to come and visit :-) You will be made very welcome - the southern hemisphere people are renowned for their hospitality. One possibly improvement would be if you could make it easy to enter multiple dates (for one show). Ours runs for 3 days and I would have to do all that typing again to make it appear on the 3 days on the calendar. As it is I have only entered it for 1 day with a note in the comments that it runs for 3. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From segray at mlode.com Fri Jun 2 13:11:38 2006 From: segray at mlode.com (Steve Gray) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:11:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] What's old might be new again! Message-ID: <44809B7A.4030302@mlode.com> Hi All - Looks like "back starting" engines might be coming back into play! Wonder if they'll consider "Match starting" ?! ;-) http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/mazdas_new_smar.html -- Steve Gray Member EDGE & TA, Br. 13 & 27 Sonora, California USA e-mail: segray at mlode.com Home page: http://www.oldengineshed.com From oiseming at moscow.com Fri Jun 2 12:40:24 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:40:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060601231057.02bbd898@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should have been an oil company CEO. :-) Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:13 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM The problem here is that as a nuke engineer at Westinghouse Arnie makes in the neighborhood of $1,750.00 per hour. I'm not sure that GEM can afford him! Dave At 10:30 PM 6/1/2006, you wrote: >That might not be a half-bad idea. Arnie has a good head on his shoulders >and a knack for putting across his common-sense ideas about a topic, no >matter what it is. > >Best regards, > >Orrin > >Orrin Iseminger >Colton, Washington, USA >http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm >So many projects. So little time. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Backus >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:39 AM >To: SEL >Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 > >Major snip > >Thanks for clearly articulating issues I didn't. Sheesh, maybe I should hire >you as our official mouthpiece!! >Regards, >Richard >-- >Richard S. Backus >Editor-in-Chief/Farm Collectibles >Farm Collector, Farm Collector Show Directory, Gas Engine Magazine and Steam >Traction >1503 SW 42nd St. >Topeka, KS 66609-1265 >Phone: 785-274-4383 >Fax: 785-274-4305 >http://www.ogdenpubs.com >http://www.farmcollector.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ocleveland at cfl.rr.com Fri Jun 2 13:42:57 2006 From: ocleveland at cfl.rr.com (Skip Cleveland) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:42:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] What's old might be new again! References: <44809B7A.4030302@mlode.com> Message-ID: <001c01c68685$21996070$62f6a518@SKIP> Can you FIRE your engine backward to do that? Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gray" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [SEL] What's old might be new again! > Hi All - > > Looks like "back starting" engines might be coming back into play! > Wonder if they'll consider "Match starting" ?! ;-) > > http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/mazdas_new_smar.html > > -- > Steve Gray > Member EDGE & TA, Br. 13 & 27 > Sonora, California USA > e-mail: segray at mlode.com > Home page: http://www.oldengineshed.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jun 2 13:37:04 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: Hi Orrin, That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should have > been an oil company CEO. From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 16:10:31 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 19:10:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060602190838.02c2bcf8@mail.alltel.net> OK Arnie, I'll grant you that $1.4m a year isn't Oil CO CEO salary, but you have to admit that you DO have fun! Dave At 04:37 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >Hi Orrin, > >That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an >engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) > >See ya, Arnie > >On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: > > > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should have > > been an oil company CEO. From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 2 16:14:44 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:14:44 +0100 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <001101c6869a$571f6a40$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM > Hi Orrin, > That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an > engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) > See ya, Arnie Hi Arnie, I thought Engineers were mechanical. Not rubbing electrons together to get a spark! Dave Croft Sorry , just come back from the Pub. http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Jun 2 19:58:40 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:58:40 -0500 Subject: [SEL] water fuel torch? In-Reply-To: <001101c6869a$571f6a40$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <20060603025851.1A0399B424@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/jose14rudy/?action=view¤t=Water Fuel.flv Huh? I have dial-up so can't really watch it. Can anyone view and explain? From rex002 at centurytel.net Fri Jun 2 20:04:26 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:04:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> <6.1.2.0.0.20060602190838.02c2bcf8@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <001501c686ba$6d3ad8d0$6400a8c0@home> If Arnie's a true nuke engineer will he soon have his Half Breed running on rods instead of liquid fuel ? Rex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM > OK Arnie, I'll grant you that $1.4m a year isn't Oil CO CEO salary, but > you have to admit that you DO have fun! > Dave > > At 04:37 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >>Hi Orrin, >> >>That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an >>engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) >> >>See ya, Arnie >> >>On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >> >> > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He should >> > have >> > been an oil company CEO. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 21:37:21 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:37:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] water fuel torch? In-Reply-To: <20060603025851.1A0399B424@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> References: <001101c6869a$571f6a40$3ac10b52@no1> <20060603025851.1A0399B424@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060603003533.02aed250@mail.alltel.net> Hi Bill, Looks good to me! I think you had better invest heavely in this product--LOTS better than the Beenie Babies that you went for several years ago! Dave At 10:58 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > >http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/jose14rudy/?action=view¤t=Water >Fuel.flv > >Huh? > >I have dial-up so can't really watch it. >Can anyone view and explain? From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 2 21:40:28 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:40:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM In-Reply-To: <001501c686ba$6d3ad8d0$6400a8c0@home> References: <200606021940.k52JeYeo070889@mail-gw.fsr.net> <6.1.2.0.0.20060602190838.02c2bcf8@mail.alltel.net> <001501c686ba$6d3ad8d0$6400a8c0@home> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060603003746.02b6ca88@mail.alltel.net> All I know is that he is staying home from SIAM to do "some secret things" to his half breed. When I asked him if he wanted help he said "No, I need to be alone for this procedure." Dave At 11:04 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > If Arnie's a true nuke engineer will he soon have his Half Breed > running on rods instead of liquid fuel ? > >Rex > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:10 PM >Subject: RE: [SEL] RE: The situation with GEM > > >>OK Arnie, I'll grant you that $1.4m a year isn't Oil CO CEO salary, but >>you have to admit that you DO have fun! >> Dave >> >>At 04:37 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >>>Hi Orrin, >>> >>>That's what I advise young folks. If you want to have fun, be an >>>engineer. If ya wanna get rich, do something else. 8-)) >>> >>>See ya, Arnie >>> >>>On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >>> >>> > Is that all? I guess Arnie picked the wrong line of work. He >>> should > have >>> > been an oil company CEO. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 2 23:53:00 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:53:00 -0700 Subject: [SEL] water fuel torch? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060603003533.02aed250@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <000e01c686da$5ba72130$0201a8c0@robscomputer> >Looks good to me! I think you had better invest > heavely in this product--LOTS better than the > Beenie Babies that you went for several years > ago! I disagree, Dave. This wanker and his stupid assed "invention" are not nearly as useful as beanie babies. It kills me that we Americans are so stupid that this type of nonsense can be broadcast as "news." Rob "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." - Henry Mencken From nick at holden1.net Sat Jun 3 05:51:07 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 13:51:07 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] Battery's References: <20060530110852.YZQB19512.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <448185BB.000001.00572@YOUR-447023AE6B> Hi thanks to all who gave advice Just put a 12 volt on and it started straight away Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden -------Original Message------- From: Patrick M Livingstone Date: 05/30/06 12:15:03 To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: RE: [SEL] Battery's Hi Nick, I use a 12v gel-cell and the low-tension side of an automotive coil on my 1hp R&V and on the 12hp as well. Both run fine but I get much better battery life on the 12hp, probably because it fires a lot less than the little one :) Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Hi Can any one tell me the best size battery AH etc To run my R&V engine on I have just had a new 6 volt on but the spark out of the coil was not very good Have now got the battery on charge to try again I am trying a 6 volt 10 AH is this going to be able to run All weekend on Regards Nick _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 4 21:31:05 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:31:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Message-ID: <20060605043109.923AB9B42D@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that .The indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan From jbcast at charter.net Sun Jun 4 22:33:11 2006 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:33:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Message-ID: <1345648884.1149485591828.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be > sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a > thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable > cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings > didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that .The > indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any > information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 > Jimmy, I use a 4" sleeve, I think it's 10.5". On longer bores I have stopped short of the bottom if the bore is good down there. I made a fixture to hold a dial indicator on the bottom of the boring bar. The bar is mounted on a plate bolted to the cylinder with jack screws on the overhanging portion. The bar can be centered and paralleled, and dialed in to the bottom of the cylinder. I have also added a spacer at the top, the piston never comes this far up, and when bored you can hardly tell it's there. I always leave a lip at the bottom, the sleeve stops against it and the head holds the top. I have some 3/32 X 4" sleeve sections I've saved if you want to add a piece. You're welcome to one. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From plb at iinet.net.au Mon Jun 5 02:01:17 2006 From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 17:01:17 +0800 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC In-Reply-To: <20060605043109.923AB9B42D@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <50v528$f8adm5@iinet-mail.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au> My experience is it might be hard to get a sleeve that long. I have put in two sections and positioned them so's the rings don't go over the join.I machine them so's there is around 4 thou interference. Run one all day today without a problem. Ray Freeman Perth Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 12:31 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that .The indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From brock at netspeed.com.au Mon Jun 5 03:51:38 2006 From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:51:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC References: <1345648884.1149485591828.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: <008701c6888e$05d31150$5f11fea9@merlin> G,day Jim for the last few years i have been getting pre machined Wet sleeves from a local engine rebuilder who has been able to supply from sizes from 4 inch up to 6 inchs with an average lenth of about 10 to 11 inchs i have not hade a problem getting a size just the other day i got a price for a sleeve for a mate the size was 4 inch by 11.5 long it was $120 Au hope that helps regards Brock ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC > ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: >> Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be >> sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a >> thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable >> cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings >> didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that >> .The >> indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any >> information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 >> > Jimmy, I use a 4" sleeve, I think it's 10.5". On longer bores I have > stopped short of the bottom if the bore is good down there. I made a > fixture to hold a dial indicator on the bottom of the boring bar. The bar > is mounted on a plate bolted to the cylinder with jack screws on the > overhanging portion. The bar can be centered and paralleled, and dialed in > to the bottom of the cylinder. I have also added a spacer at the top, the > piston never comes this far up, and when bored you can hardly tell it's > there. I always leave a lip at the bottom, the sleeve stops against it and > the head holds the top. I have some 3/32 X 4" sleeve sections I've saved > if you want to add a piece. You're welcome to one. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plb at iinet.net.au Mon Jun 5 05:19:29 2006 From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:19:29 +0800 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC In-Reply-To: <008701c6888e$05d31150$5f11fea9@merlin> Message-ID: <51ns5e$mnmia3@iinet-mail.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au> Do you know who makes them Brock? I was asked today about boring a 2 stroke Petter which looks to have a fairly long cylinder. Ray Freeman Perth WA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brock Summerfield Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 6:52 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC G,day Jim for the last few years i have been getting pre machined Wet sleeves from a local engine rebuilder who has been able to supply from sizes from 4 inch up to 6 inchs with an average lenth of about 10 to 11 inchs i have not hade a problem getting a size just the other day i got a price for a sleeve for a mate the size was 4 inch by 11.5 long it was $120 Au hope that helps regards Brock ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC > ---- Jim O'Hagan wrote: >> Hi,I need some help .I'm working a 2&1/2 horse Famous that needs to be >> sleeved. The original bore is 4" x11".Does any one know of a source for a >> thin wall cast sleeve? Another alternative would be a useable >> cylinder/hopper. I guess a shorter sleeve would work as long as the rings >> didn't go past the end of the sleeve. Any one have success trying that >> .The >> indexing of the boring bar would have to be right on. Thanks for any >> information or ideas. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 >> > Jimmy, I use a 4" sleeve, I think it's 10.5". On longer bores I have > stopped short of the bottom if the bore is good down there. I made a > fixture to hold a dial indicator on the bottom of the boring bar. The bar > is mounted on a plate bolted to the cylinder with jack screws on the > overhanging portion. The bar can be centered and paralleled, and dialed in > to the bottom of the cylinder. I have also added a spacer at the top, the > piston never comes this far up, and when bored you can hardly tell it's > there. I always leave a lip at the bottom, the sleeve stops against it and > the head holds the top. I have some 3/32 X 4" sleeve sections I've saved > if you want to add a piece. You're welcome to one. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Mon Jun 5 10:32:19 2006 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:32:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 1/2 HP. IHC Message-ID: <708053015.1149528739061.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> > who has been able to supply from sizes from 4 inch up to 6 inchs with an > average lenth of about 10 to 11 inchs > i have not hade a problem getting a size just the other day i got a price > for a sleeve for a mate the size was 4 inch by 11.5 long > it was $120 Au hope that helps > regards Brock I get the 3/32 X 4 X 10.5" for $30. J.B. From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 6 16:00:05 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:00:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From swebre at hotmail.com Tue Jun 6 19:24:28 2006 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:24:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Press Release - Code Name "Chair" Message-ID: For Immediate Release: 06/06/06 Today, B&S, LLC announced intentions to declassify certain aspects of Project "Chair". Security will be tight, but SEL members will be allowed limited access for the duration of the SIAM show beginning 06/09/06 thru 06/11/06. No flash photography will be permitted. B&S, LLC Broussard, LA PS - Bring marshmallows From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Wed Jun 7 02:42:36 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:42:36 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Test In-Reply-To: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: Working in OZ Dave. Regards Lyndsay >From: "Dave Croft" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "atis" >Subject: [SEL] Test >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:00:05 +0100 > > >Dave Croft >Warrington >http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 7 11:14:40 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> References: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <1418.165.206.180.19.1149704080.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Anyone have any experience with or comments about the Harbor Freight blast cabinet #39170? It's a fair size floor model blast cabinet. On sale now..... Good? Indifferent? Have no clue, never heard of it or them? It sucks, run from it fast? also - what "media" do you use for various parts and materials? I've got a lot of parts to clean - using electrolysis when/where I can, but I also believe some parts simply need "blasting", especially non-ferrous metals. Bill Runnells, IA where we need RAIN badly!!!!!!!!!!!! From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 7 12:03:06 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:03:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Crossley HD3 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060607210253.00ad8420@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, A good friend called today and asked if I could help with a manual for a Crossley HD3 that he recently acquired. A year or 2 back I downloaded "HDHH.pdf" (operating and installation instructions) and "HDPT.pdf" (Parts diagram) and "CRHD.pdf" from Paul's site (Internal Fire). Unfortunately HDHH.PDF and CRHD.PDF have pages missing (I get an error in Acrobat reader similar to "Insufficient data for an image). Does anyone have any scanned versions of these manuals for me? These engines are very rare in South Africa but I know that there are a few in Aus and probably in the U.K.. The details of this engine are: Crossley HD3 B.H.P. 10 @ 475 R.P.M. Serial No. 126333 I would really like to be able to help this guy as he is the person who gave me my little Ruston & Hornsby PT. before and after As usual - any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Best regards Jerry Evans. Visit our website: www.databak.co.za --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From falcon at telenet.net Wed Jun 7 12:59:47 2006 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:59:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of References: <002701c689bc$f4948970$3ac10b52@no1> <1418.165.206.180.19.1149704080.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <005501c68a6c$ee6a9020$c01117d1@net.telenet.net> Bill, I have a couple of HF blast cabinets. They are pretty much the same as the rest on the market and have the same problem, the low end siphon media guns are crap. They work OK but can be finicky with different media types. I replaced both of mine with pressure feed hopper type blasters and they now work good. You will want to connect up a good dust collector to it so that you can see what is going on inside. Extra lights are a good idea as well. Media wise I have one set of for aggressive rust/paint/crud removal and run 150 grit Black Beauty blasting media. The other is loaded with glass bead and gets used on parts like aluminum and brass items. Then I have a smaller unit loaded with plastic bead that I use on carbs and SOFT parts. The HF units all seam to leak a bit around the doors, That can be taken care of by adding an extra piece of weather strip inside the original so it acts more like a double seal. I also sprayed the entire interior of mine with a coat of white epoxy paint. Reflects the light better. Steve Williams Near Cooperstown, New York ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of > > Anyone have any experience with or comments about the Harbor Freight blast > cabinet #39170? > It's a fair size floor model blast cabinet. On sale now..... > > Good? > Indifferent? > Have no clue, never heard of it or them? > It sucks, run from it fast? > > also - what "media" do you use for various parts and materials? > I've got a lot of parts to clean - using electrolysis when/where I can, > but I also believe some parts simply need "blasting", especially > non-ferrous metals. > > Bill > Runnells, IA where we need RAIN badly!!!!!!!!!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mickdema at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 04:03:31 2006 From: mickdema at yahoo.com (Mick Demaria) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 04:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Delco-Light Salesman's Trailer - Help with Paint Color Needed Message-ID: <20060607110331.96777.qmail@web39107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Guys: I am in the process of building a replica of a Delco Salesman's Trailer. We are just starting to do the wood. The problem is what color were they originally? Has anyone out there seen an original? I'd like to retain the original color if its not too ugly. These pictures were sent to me by another collector. I think the top pictures are of original trailers. The bottom two are Don's. He chose to stain and poly his. A really nice job! http://www.oldengine.org/members/demaria/trailer/ Any suggestion as to what the original color if any would would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mick DeMaria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From paul at semidiesel.com Wed Jun 7 12:56:02 2006 From: paul at semidiesel.com (Paul Evans) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:56:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Crossley HD3 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060607210253.00ad8420@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060607210253.00ad8420@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <44872F52.2080504@semidiesel.com> Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi Guys, > A good friend called today and asked if I could help with a > manual for a Crossley HD3 that he recently acquired. Hi Jerry, Fixed version is up. Cheers Paul -- Internal Fire Museum of Power Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS http://www.internalfire.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 7 20:27:55 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:27:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Press Release - Code Name "Chair" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1149737275.4487993b58622@webmail.city-net.com> DAMN!! Sounds like the SIAM show is shaping up as THE event of the 2006 show season!! Can't wait to see the "night videos" of The Chair!! 8-)) Quoting Steve Webre : > For Immediate Release: 06/06/06 > > Today, B&S, LLC announced intentions to declassify certain aspects of > Project "Chair". > > Security will be tight, but SEL members will be allowed limited access for > the duration of the SIAM show beginning 06/09/06 thru 06/11/06. > > No flash photography will be permitted. > > B&S, LLC > Broussard, LA > > PS - Bring marshmallows From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 7 20:14:21 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:14:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of Message-ID: <20060607.232347.656.4.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Bill, I see the cabinet you are talking abaout on th flyer. You have to realize that, with Harbor Freight, you get what you pay for. I can drive over to their Pleasant Hills, PA store and take a look if you want. And then give an opinion. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jun 7 22:54:35 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:54:35 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: <20060608055426.RWIB4761.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> I hope to see a few list members at the Manilla, NSW rally this weekend. Should be a great weekend (weather permitting). The big Stover is wrapped up on the trailer to protect it from the weather and I just bought a sleeping bag rated for -8c. I will off course take along plenty of personal anti-freeze to help us through the weekend ;) Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ From nancydick at pennswoods.net Thu Jun 8 07:11:24 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:11:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060608070559.01b513a0@mail.pennswoods.net> Hi every one. Have a question on my Stover ct1. what should be the point opening on it. I tired to start it yesterday after sitting about 2 years. I have spark but not hot you can hold the plug wire and just feel it. This has a rebuilt mag from Ted B on it. It is a Wico EK Thanks R Fink From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Jun 8 04:25:32 2006 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:25:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Stover References: <4.2.0.58.20060608070559.01b513a0@mail.pennswoods.net> Message-ID: <000801c68aee$42bc3d00$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> If ya dont get a belt off the mag, stop right there! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fink Sr" To: "SEL.email discussionlist" Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:11 AM Subject: [SEL] Stover > Hi every one. Have a question on my Stover ct1. what should be the point > opening on it. I tired to start it yesterday after sitting about 2 years. > I have spark but not hot you can hold the plug wire and just feel it. This > has a rebuilt mag from Ted B on it. It is a Wico EK > Thanks > R Fink > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 8 04:39:08 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 04:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <20060607.232347.656.4.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20060607.232347.656.4.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <2079.165.206.180.19.1149766748.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Hey, Joe, It would seem to be that way everywhere...... thing is, I've looked at all the places that have outlets locally - Northern Tools, etc. and they all seem to sell the same stuff, or if the brands are different, the design and "quality" are similar. Des Moines only has a couple of places that sell tools like that so our choices are limited (small city that likes to think it's a BIG city) and I've got a low budget -200 was target, really can't go over 275 or so tops. Got a lot of parts to blast - car restoration (wow, a dismantled car takes a LOT of space!) and have a couple of engines to get ready for show. Tired of "sand" all over the driveway and in my hair - then having to buy more sand when I have finished a few parts. (and it really looks like heck around here if I use the black media!) Yeah, let me know what you think, really. I asked.... ;-) Bill > Hi Bill, > > I see the cabinet you are talking abaout on th flyer. > > You have to realize that, with Harbor Freight, you get what you pay for. > > I can drive over to their Pleasant Hills, PA store and take a look if you > want. > > And then give an opinion. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From b2 at chooka.net Thu Jun 8 05:12:42 2006 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 07:12:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <1418.165.206.180.19.1149704080.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <200606080712162.SM03004@wrbpc> Bill, I bought one of the Northern Hydraulics units a couple of years ago, $200 or so, maybe less, and a few buckets of blasting beads. I have been pleased with the results, it quickly cleans up parts and tools. Yeah, it's kind of a dog in other ways: - don't place it next to anything you don't want sand in. I started out next to my drill press but sure didn't leave it there. The cabinet top just isn't all that tight. - it came with a stick-on sheet to kind of protect the main lid from damage but I didn?t see any replacement sheets around. Eventually (not too long, actually) the sheet was roughed up enough I peeled it off one evening so I could see what I was doing. Now the Plexiglas lid is pretty cloudy, I'll need to cut another one of these days. - you have to add a light to the cabinet. Good idea that somebody posted about painting the inside white, too. - sometimes it doesn't suck sand real well and needs to be fiddled with. I have not gotten beyond the glass beads, although the current fill of material is pretty well used up and needs to be thrown away. My main interest was in cleaning up aluminum, like magneto cases, so I didn't want the more aggressive sand. They look really great when I get done. So I'd say, "Go for it." It's got its weak spots, but at the price it seems a good education so I'll know what I want when I grow up and buy a real one. B? Bill Brueck (brick) Chatfield, MN, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of bill at antique-engines.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:15 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of Anyone have any experience with or comments about the Harbor Freight blast cabinet #39170? It's a fair size floor model blast cabinet. On sale now..... Good? Indifferent? Have no clue, never heard of it or them? It sucks, run from it fast? also - what "media" do you use for various parts and materials? I've got a lot of parts to clean - using electrolysis when/where I can, but I also believe some parts simply need "blasting", especially non-ferrous metals. Bill Runnells, IA where we need RAIN badly!!!!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Thu Jun 8 05:49:01 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:49:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] BIG Gas Engines Message-ID: <016901c68af9$eaf43300$4f704047@pengy> In my never ending quest for the Biggest flywheeled engines in the world I have become involved with the efforts to preserve the gigantic gas bleoing engines at Bethlehem Steel. Think the 600 HP Snow at Coolsprings is big? You ain't seen nuthin yet! How about a four cylinder double acting gas engine with 42" cylinders and a 28' flywheel weighing 1000 tons? How about 12 of them sitting in a row!!! The last week of June the Tod Engine Foundation will be leading a work sesion at Bethlehem Steel to do some stabilization work on their priceless collection of blowing engines. We are looking for volunteers so if you would like to get dirty working o the largest flywheeled gas engines in the World we can use your help. Here is a link to a discussion and pics on the Practical Machinist forum: http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/15829.html? (the question mark needs to be in the URL) Yes the Tod Engine is big but these are much much bigger. Hard to beliede, even I am dumbfounded looking at these beasts. PS plans are to eventually return on to operation. Rick Rowlands Tod Engine Foundation 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org William Tod Co. 34" x 68" x 60" Cross Compound Rolling Mill Engine Historic Mechanical and Materials Engineering Landmark From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 8 07:31:01 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 10:31:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stover Message-ID: <20060608.103101.836.0.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Rich, You sure seem to have more than enough trouble with mags. I've never putzed with the mags on my engines - but - just for fun, I went out to see what mine were set at. When open the points are about 1/8th inch. The Wico Manual doesn't give a specific gap - However - It tells it like this: On engines using the type No.2 drive (such as Stover CT-1) the breaker point contacts should just open when the armature is 3/32" away from the cores. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 8 11:30:48 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:30:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally/Anti freezing mixture info needed In-Reply-To: <200606081600.k58G04sT001654@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608201203.00aa8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 08/06/2006, you wrote: >From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally > >I will off course take along plenty of personal anti-freeze to help us >through the weekend ;) >Patrick Damn Good idea Patrick, We have the same problem over here - do you have any recommendations as to which is the best type to use. We usually have a bottle or two of Engine Coffee (a.k.a. O.B.S or Old Brown Sherry - the fisherman use it to prevent their hands becoming frozen to their rods (fishing poles to all those who thought a rod was anything else)) in the car on the way over. Of course 2 bottles are only enough if the event is quite close by - say within 20 Km. Then at the event we dose ourselves with copious amounts of B & C which usually manages to prevent us from freezing. One of our members also distills a fine "Mampoer" which always goes down very well. Difficult to explain this one but it starts off life as a peach and then through various stages of boiling and condensing ends up as a very effective "anti freeze" - actually makes you "glow". A small amount inserted through the spark plug hole is usually a surefire way of getting a cold, stubborn engine to start as well. Enjoy your show. Keep the revs up (or down) AND REMEMBER ------ Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 8 11:42:48 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:42:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <200606081600.k58G04sT001654@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608203602.00af8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> > >From: "Bill Brueck" >Subject: RE: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of > Now the Plexiglas lid is pretty cloudy, >I'll need to cut another one of these days. >Bill Brueck (brick) >Chatfield, MN, USA Hi Bill (and List) Plexiglas or Perspex (trade names for the same material) is not ideal for sandblasting visors or windows - too hard and marks very easily. Transparent P.V.C or Polycarbonate is better but the best is to use glass with a thin (cheap) sheet of Polycarbonate or P.V.C. taped over it and just replace this as it gets cloudy. > Keep the revs up (or down) AND REMEMBER ------ Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Jun 8 12:29:18 2006 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:29:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Fairbanks Morse catalog question. Message-ID: <410-22006648192918171@coastalnet.com> Does anyone have a full line Fairbanks Morse catalog from 1915 - 1925? I am looking for information on a gristmill that was marketed by them, and would appreciate hearing from you off list if you might have this info. Thank you. Ken Christison christison at coastalnet.com check out my photo gallery at: www.oldiron-nut.com/gallery From johnculp at chartertn.net Thu Jun 8 12:39:23 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:39:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally/Anti freezing mixture info needed In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608201203.00aa8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608201203.00aa8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: > We usually have a bottle or two of Engine Coffee (a.k.a. O.B.S > or Old Brown Sherry - the fisherman use it to prevent their hands > becoming frozen to their rods It would be tragic to have your hands frozen to your rod. John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From b2 at chooka.net Thu Jun 8 14:00:21 2006 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:00:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060608203602.00af8930@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <200606081600206.SM00564@wrbpc> Good tip, and just in time for me, thanks, Jerry! B? Bill Brueck (brick) Chatfield, MN, USA Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance. Hi Bill (and List) Plexiglas or Perspex (trade names for the same material) is not ideal for sandblasting visors or windows - too hard and marks very easily. Transparent P.V.C or Polycarbonate is better but the best is to use glass with a thin (cheap) sheet of Polycarbonate or P.V.C. taped over it and just replace this as it gets cloudy. > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Jun 8 16:47:09 2006 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:47:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Wood County Heritage Days Message-ID: On June 10 - 11, 2006 the Wood County Historical Society will present Wood County Heritage Days. More information is available at http://www.woodcountyhistory.org .There is an operating oil drilling rig with 80' derrick and a pumping power with a horizontal band wheel powered by an SM Jones oil engine. In conjunction with this event the Power of Yesteryear Club will have many engines and tractors on display. This is an opportunity to observe drilling and pumping equipment in operation. I will be in the blacksmith shop next to the drilling rig boiler. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Jun 8 16:48:21 2006 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:48:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 40hp 2 cycle Superior Message-ID: I bought a box of GEM magazines at an auction last a couple of weeks ago. In the February 2003 issue is an article about a 40-60 hp Superior in Iowa. The article states that this is a 40hp engine at 300 rpm, a 50 hp engine at 350 rpm and a 60 hp engine at 400 rpm. I find these specs a little hard to believe. Three hundred rpm would scare the be-jesus out of me and I don't even want to contemplate 400 rpm. It also states that this engine was made about 1920. It has a cast iron crankcase housing. The catalogs that I have here lead me to believe that the cast crank case did not come about until at least the 1930's. I have a 25hp Superior of the same design without the water pump and without air start. Am I missing something or are the statements in the artice up for question? Also in that box of magazines was a sales brochure for a Huber H K tractor in near mint condition. It was a good day! Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From mickdema at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 16:01:17 2006 From: mickdema at yahoo.com (Mick Demaria) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] RE: Delco-Light Salesman's Trailer - Help with Paint Color Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060608230117.48399.qmail@web39106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi: Thanks to all for the info. Thanks for the pictures Steve, do-no about that original color maybe I'll go with a flat or semigloss red. Mick DeMaria --- Steve Wright wrote: > Somewhere I wrote down a lot of the dimentions and > details. But here are a few of the many pictures I > took of an original owned by a fellow in Hastings > NebraskaI can see that this is taking to long to > upload the pictures. I will put together all the > pictures and reduce the size so they will send > better. I don't have the time now but will do it > later. must get to work now > Steve > > > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 04:03:31 -0700> From: > mickdema at yahoo.com> Subject: Delco-Light Salesman's > Trailer - Help with Paint Color Needed> To: > stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> CC: > Mickdema at yahoo.com> > Hi Guys:> I am in the process > of building a replica of a Delco> Salesman's > Trailer. We are just starting to do the> wood. The > problem is what color were they originally?> > Has > anyone out there seen an original? I'd like to> > retain the original color if its not too ugly.> > > These pictures were sent to me by another > collector.> I think the top pictures are of original > trailers. The> bottom two are Don's. He chose to > stain and poly his.> A really nice job!> > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/demaria/trailer/ > > > Any suggestion as to what the original color if > any> would would be greatly appreciated.> > > Thanks> Mick DeMaria> > > __________________________________________________> > Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the > best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to:> > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org> with:> > unsubscribe> in the subject of the message. Nothing > else, no SIGs, etc. > _________________________________________________________________ > It's the future, it's here, and it's free: Windows > Live Mail beta > http://www2.imagine-msn.com/minisites/mail/Default.aspx?locale=en-us __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nancydick at pennswoods.net Thu Jun 8 20:49:24 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:49:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <20060608.103101.836.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060608204812.01b52d50@mail.pennswoods.net> Thanks Joe and Reg they are set now at least 30 th. Will get some time soon to recheck. R Fink At 10:31 AM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Rich, > >You sure seem to have more than enough trouble with mags. > >I've never putzed with the mags on my engines - but - >just for fun, I went out to see what mine were set at. > >When open the points are about 1/8th inch. > >The Wico Manual doesn't give a specific gap - However - It tells it like >this: > >On engines using the type No.2 drive (such as Stover CT-1) >the breaker point contacts should just open when the armature >is 3/32" away from the cores. > >Hope this helps. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jun 9 11:51:46 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company Message-ID: Hi Folks, Once again Dolly has done her webbing magic and turned one of my sow's ears into a silk purse. The link below will take you to a description of the Fero Air Pump Company. This was a business started by my grandfather and father. The style of the "old iron" is definitely interesting. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm Since in the last few years I've found and now own two of the Fero Air Pumps, I know that they are still out there in service. obviously, if you run across any of 'em, let me know. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jun 9 14:29:34 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:29:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company References: Message-ID: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." MR cloistered oyster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "Stationary Engine List" ; "Old Engine" Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company > Hi Folks, > > Once again Dolly has done her webbing magic and turned one of my sow's > ears into a silk purse. The link below will take you to a description of > the Fero Air Pump Company. This was a business started by my grandfather > and father. The style of the "old iron" is definitely interesting. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm > > Since in the last few years I've found and now own two of the Fero Air > Pumps, I know that they are still out there in service. obviously, if you > run across any of 'em, let me know. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 9 17:34:16 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:34:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Watts Brother Help from Aussies Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060610102839.0231f1e0@mail.ncable.com.au> G'day all. Back in 2003 at the Heyfield National Rally there was a Watts brothers oil engine displayed by B & L Simpson. See page page 31 TOMM mag issue106. Does anyone know of these folk and if so perhaps a phone number?? You may even know of the town they live and i could do a search. Any help would be very appreciated. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Jun 9 18:25:11 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:25:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] blasting cabinet question - OT sort of Message-ID: <20060609.212511.616.0.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Bill, Took a ride over to Harbor Freight today. The cabinet you are looking at (Lot # 39170) doesn't look too bad. It measures about 35" across the front. The window is glass but seems to have a plastic coating or film on the inside. The weight of the metal seems sufficient. 16 Gauge on the top box - 18 Gauge on the frame & legs. It seems to fit in a stand. I'm not sure if it comes apart but I would think it does. There is a florescent light inside it. 2 Ports in the back for a vacuum. The glove/sleeves are not real heavy but, I guess, sufficient. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the door being on the side. If I were in the market, I think I would buy it. They also had a smaller one very similar in construction for $94.99. (Lot # 42202) It measures about 27" across the front. It has no legs so I guess you would have to build a stand for it. 'Sbout all I could think of. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Jun 9 18:37:51 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:37:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company Message-ID: <20060609.213953.616.3.jlb94@juno.com> My compliments to Dolly. She sure does excellent work. And to you too, Arnie. I had no idea that you had a product line. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 9 20:08:15 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:08:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company In-Reply-To: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> Brunner >> Fero equals Herc >> Jaeger??? Decals are cheap.... Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more > "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you > folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks > were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor > Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If > you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at > the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was > around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the > Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous > times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far > as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, > another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is > a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy > inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." > > MR cloistered oyster > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Jun 10 06:39:36 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 09:39:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company In-Reply-To: <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <1149946776.448acb9860edd@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Tommy, That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of that Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor are the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form follows function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > Brunner >> Fero equals Herc >> Jaeger??? Decals are cheap.... > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more > > "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you > > folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks > > were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor > > Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If > > you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at > > the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was > > around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the > > Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous > > times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far > > as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, > > another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is > > a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy > > inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." > > > > MR cloistered oyster From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 10 10:11:38 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:11:38 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <200606101600.k5AG05jH019676@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060610190735.00aa47c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 10/06/2006, you wrote: >Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company >To: Stationary Engine List , Old > Engine >Message-ID: >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >Hi Folks, > >Once again Dolly has done her webbing magic and turned one of my sow's >ears into a silk purse. The link below will take you to a description of >the Fero Air Pump Company. This was a business started by my grandfather >and father. The style of the "old iron" is definitely interesting. > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm > >Since in the last few years I've found and now own two of the Fero Air >Pumps, I know that they are still out there in service. obviously, if you >run across any of 'em, let me know. 8-)) > >See ya, Arnie Hi Arnie (and Dolly), Great Stuff. Very interesting to see that they also had a "delete" key - just called it by another name in those days. See last paragraph: I've saved the logo (decal) into my collection and will redraw it into a vector drawing as soon as I get a chance. I'll let you know when it's done. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sat Jun 10 16:04:20 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:04:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20060608070559.01b513a0@mail.pennswoods.net> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060610160142.01b32be0@mail.pennswoods.net> I made a BIG mistake on this message. It was Lee P that rebuilt the mag. CRS is getting real bad. Sorry for any confusion i may have caused. R Fink PA At 07:11 AM 6/8/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi every one. Have a question on my Stover ct1. what should be the point >opening on it. I tired to start it yesterday after sitting about 2 years. >I have spark but not hot you can hold the plug wire and just feel it. This >has a rebuilt mag from Ted B on it. It is a Wico EK >Thanks >R Fink > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Jun 10 13:09:35 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:09:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> <1149946776.448acb9860edd@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000801c68cc9$cb6de590$536b4b47@mikecomp> Fero, from the latin ferrus, hence the words, rust, rusty, rustbucket, pileofworthlessjunkamongus. Now how can you argue with such hard facts. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.................. Truth and Sincerity, Quality and Endurance The Brunner Motto ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Fero Air Pump Company > Hi Tommy, > > That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of > that > Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities > between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor > are > the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form > follows > function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > Quoting Judge Tommy Turner : > >> Brunner >> Fero equals Herc >> Jaeger??? Decals are cheap.... >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> > Oh how we love to "re-write history" in order to make things more >> > "politically correct." Let me be the first of many to clue you >> > folks in on the real FERO history. Now I am sure Arnie's kinfolks >> > were fine men and did many good things, including the Fero Compressor >> > Company. But dare we stop and ask, where did this idea come from? If >> > you trace the history of the Brunner Compressor company and look at >> > the pamplets, you will see an example of a fine product that was >> > around before and after the Fero company. In fact, it is amazing the >> > Fero even favors the Brunner! Having mentioned this to Arnie numerous >> > times he quickly mentions "coincidence" but you be the judge. As far >> > as the compressor I obtained for Arnie, it came from NC not SC, >> > another blatant misrepresentation put on us by "the man." Now that is >> > a story to itself!!!!! I'd love to explain more but I am busy >> > inventing the "Royster light bulb" and the "SS Royster Bar-co-lounger." >> > >> > MR cloistered oyster > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 16:40:46 2006 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:40:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Arnie blows hot and cold... In-Reply-To: <200606101600.k5AG05jC019676@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Hi Tommy, That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of that Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor are the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form follows function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) See ya, Arnie Arnie, regardless of the dastardly efforts of the Oyster Boyz, it is very cool to have your name on a piece of history. Surely, someone will run across another copy of the catalog and answer the burning question of which engine it was... Meanwhile, let the detective work start. Which engines of 2 HP as of the date of the catalog had a high tension mag, ignition switch, and removeable crank? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Lenexa, KS sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sat Jun 10 17:02:24 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:02:24 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Arnie blows hot and cold... References: Message-ID: <004601c68cea$53179c50$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Younger" To: Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: [SEL] Arnie blows hot and cold... > Hi Tommy, > That rascally cloistered oyster has been trying to bump up the value of that > Brunner boat anchor he owns as long as I've known him. Any similarities > between a Fero Air Pump and a cheap, inferior knock-off Brunner compressor are > the result of industrial espionage on their part or the result of "form follows > function." Don't be deceived by the artful dodger. 8-)) > See ya, Arnie > Arnie, regardless of the dastardly efforts of the Oyster Boyz, it is very > cool to have your name on a piece of history. Surely, someone will run > across another copy of the catalog and answer the burning question of which > engine it was... > Meanwhile, let the detective work start. Which engines of 2 HP as of the > date of the catalog had a high tension mag, ignition switch, and removeable > crank? > Bruce Younger Hi Bruce, I think Arnie will be over here very shortly, (Pause while I get English breweries working over the weekends in anticipation) I will advise all the English ladies that a "Ferro" is very good for a blow job. (They do get a lot of flat tyres on their ladies cars) Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sat Jun 10 21:24:28 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:24:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <20060608.103101.836.0.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060610212301.01b358b0@mail.pennswoods.net> Hi Joe Lee peterson is always set up at coolsprings isn't he. Thanks R Fink At 10:31 AM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Rich, > >You sure seem to have more than enough trouble with mags. > >I've never putzed with the mags on my engines - but - >just for fun, I went out to see what mine were set at. > >When open the points are about 1/8th inch. > >The Wico Manual doesn't give a specific gap - However - It tells it like >this: > >On engines using the type No.2 drive (such as Stover CT-1) >the breaker point contacts should just open when the armature >is 3/32" away from the cores. > >Hope this helps. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jun 10 20:01:18 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:01:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Stover Message-ID: <20060610.232111.944.12.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Joe Lee peterson is always set up at coolsprings isn't he. YES - Usually at the intersection. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sun Jun 11 04:03:53 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: <20060611110354.GDKX1358.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover (well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours driving through torrential rain to arrive in Manilla just on dark on Friday. I unloaded the engine, set up camp, and joined the gang for a few relaxing drinks and then went to bed. I should add that the moon was shining and the sky was clear when I went to bed about 1am. About 6am I was awoken by the ominous sound of light rain on the tent. It stopped and started a few times and then decided to stay. Things were not looking good for the rally. Edd had his 10hp Famous set up under his shade canopy which I thought was a great idea. I got out my shade canopy (which is weather proof) and set it up over the Stover. I then removed the tarp I had wrapped around it to protect it from the rain on the trip north. Apparently my tarp must have a hole in it because when the Stover first fired it shot a big splat of sooty water onto the underside of my canopy and a bit on the people watching me start the engine. Edd's Famous and my Stover ran all day under the protection of the canopies and a few other hardy souls also ran their engines in the gaps between the heavy falls of rain. The forecast was for more heavy falls on Sunday so late in the afternoon I threw my sodden tent and canopy into the back of the ute and loaded the engine for the trip home. It happened that one of the heaviest falls of the day occurred as I was loading so I looked like a drowned rat when I had finished. I then retreated to Tamworth to a nice warm Motel room before heading home today. The best part of the weekend was being given the bones of a 4hp Blackstone which will now give me almost all the bite I need to make my engine complete. A wet weekend but a good one. Some pics at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/man061.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sun Jun 11 07:33:05 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:33:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Stover In-Reply-To: <20060610.232111.944.12.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060611073239.01b34930@mail.pennswoods.net> Thanks Joe R Fink At 11:01 PM 6/10/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Joe Lee peterson is always set up at coolsprings isn't he. > >YES - Usually at the intersection. > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Jun 11 06:53:50 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:53:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally References: <20060611110354.GDKX1358.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <003e01c68d5e$794eafc0$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally > Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover > (well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours > driving through torrential rain to arrive in Manilla just on dark on Friday. Big Snip > A wet weekend but a good one. Some pics at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/man061.html > Patrick M Livingstone Look on the bright side Patrick. You don't have to spend all that money to come & see what a lot of English Shows are like! The pictures look very familiar. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jun 11 09:21:40 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:21:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Fero Air Pump Company In-Reply-To: <000801c68cc9$cb6de590$536b4b47@mikecomp> References: <003d01c68c0b$ce244450$536b4b47@mikecomp> <448A379F.8070300@scrtc.com> <1149946776.448acb9860edd@webmail.city-net.com> <000801c68cc9$cb6de590$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <1150042900.448c4314cebc2@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya Folks, All of this friendly banter has reminded me (and Dolly) of the fact that good ol' Mike is the more talkative of the Cloistered Oysters. In fact, he's been referred to as a cunning linguist on more than one occasion. I have Mike to thank for not only locating my first Fero Air Pump but also for collecting it and delivering it to Portland. And Mike being Mike, the tale alone is worth the price of admission. Now, again Mike being Mike, this is a "cautionary tale." Specifically, if you are offended by "massive mammaries" and events that may or may not involve 14-year-old naked females, stop now!! This is NOT a tale for the faint of heart (nor the humor-impaired). If, OTOH, you DO enjoy a good "old iron" yarn, GO FOR IT! http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm And for those of you who were on the list when this happened "live", I can assure you that it's just as much fun the second time around. See ya, Arnie PS - Mike, you really are in the wrong line of work! 8-)) Quoting Mike Royster : > Fero, from the latin ferrus, hence the words, rust, rusty, rustbucket, > pileofworthlessjunkamongus. Now how can you argue with such hard facts. > Oh, how the mighty have fallen.................. > > Truth and Sincerity, Quality and Endurance > The Brunner Motto From nick at holden1.net Sun Jun 11 10:31:23 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:31:23 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] A good weekend Message-ID: <448C536B.000003.01140@YOUR-447023AE6B> Hi All Is the list very slow at the moment or am I just not getting any List email's Anyway just back from a good weekend at the Windrush Valley show Photos are on webshots Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Jun 11 10:42:51 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: <20060611.104251.500.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks for the pictures Patrick, it looks like you had a good time in spite of the rain. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jun 12 03:46:04 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:46:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <003e01c68d5e$794eafc0$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <20060612104601.FBDW27710.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> I guess we are used to the endless sunshine and beautiful weather all year 'round here in Oz ;) The rain at a rally was a bit of a shock. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Look on the bright side Patrick. You don't have to spend all that money to come & see what a lot of English Shows are like! The pictures look very familiar. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Mon Jun 12 04:19:08 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:19:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <20060611110354.GDKX1358.omta03sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: Thanks Patrick for the great pics. A fairly soggy weekend by the looks. Regards Lyndsay >From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , >"Stationary Engine Mailing List" >Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally >Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 > >Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover >(well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours > > >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Jun 12 16:26:15 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:26:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Show pictures Message-ID: <20060612.162615.1132.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. The past two weekends my club displayed at two different community functions. On June 4 we were at the Anaheim Hills Heritage Days, under giant oak trees. On the 11th we were at Sonora High School in La Habra to support their FFA car show fund raiser. Perfect weather. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Mon Jun 12 21:17:06 2006 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:17:06 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally References: Message-ID: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> Hey Lyndsay it reminded me of Victoria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndsay Frazer" To: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Manilla Rally > Thanks Patrick for the great pics. A fairly soggy weekend by the looks. > > > Regards > Lyndsay > > > > > >>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >>To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , >>"Stationary Engine Mailing List" >>Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally >>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 >> >>Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover >>(well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few hours > >> >> >>Patrick M Livingstone >>Leichhardt NSW >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frazer.ben at gmail.com Mon Jun 12 21:58:08 2006 From: frazer.ben at gmail.com (Ben Frazer) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:58:08 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> References: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> Message-ID: <6f6bb9400606122158m410a7e03l92ebf4121591dd2f@mail.gmail.com> You think thats wet! We are having monsoon floods every afernoon here in Malaysia at the moment, not cold though! 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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Tue Jun 13 04:32:15 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:32:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine Message-ID: Good day all; Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 banger. Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to it. Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft for a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite unique Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG Hope ya enjoy and can help. It's a great tour of Butte's mining operation and a well spent 7 bucks. Take Care, RickinMt. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jun 13 05:21:24 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:21:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <448EADC4.1010903@scrtc.com> Richard, That baby is a Foos. I've never seen a Foos winch engine though. Tommy Turner Magnolia, Ky >Good day all; > Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining >museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We >did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. > > 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the >cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and >has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. > > The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 >banger. > > Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: > > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH > > > The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to it. >Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft for >a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk > > > and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite unique >Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG > > > Hope ya enjoy and can help. It's a great tour of Butte's mining operation >and a well spent 7 bucks. > > Take Care, > RickinMt. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jun 13 05:27:11 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:27:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060613122707.ECCO19512.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Rick, I am pretty sure the big 15hp engine is a Foos. It is an impressive looking beast :) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Good day all; Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. Take Care, RickinMt. From marshallman at iprimus.com.au Mon Jun 12 18:48:26 2006 From: marshallman at iprimus.com.au (Jim) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:48:26 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Re: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 11 References: <200606121600.k5CG06Jx021981@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <00db01c68e8b$78d04030$0300a8c0@userfea17465b0> Arnie, > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm > ROFLMAO!!!! Jim marshallman at iprimus.com.au Runnin' with the wind ...... 8^) From stevebarr at ameritech.net Tue Jun 13 07:18:04 2006 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <20060613122707.ECCO19512.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, I did make it to the Evansville Show a little late, but did have fun the the time that was spent there. Photos at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006siam1.htm Enjoy Steve From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Jun 13 07:45:07 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:45:07 EDT Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine Message-ID: <4bb.14f0643.31c02973@aol.com> In a message dated 6/13/2006 4:46:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite unique Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG Rick, Years ago, there were short stories in a magazine about a frictional tractor salesman. This salesman was selling a machne that was called "an Earthworm". The author must have seen this tractor that you photographed. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150209907 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 13 07:30:02 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, GREAT pics!! It's especially cool to see the pics of Steve's Turbo La-Z-Boy chair. They had left me a voicemail of it spooling up to full power. It's neat to see what that "looked" like. 8-)) I sure do hope that the chair makes a Portland appearance. THAT is a class butt buggy. Also good for thinning out the crowd. The other thing I noticed about those pics is that Lincoln is nearly as tall as Susan!! WHEW! What are they feeding that boy?? (Probably early and often...) See ya, Arnie On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Barr wrote: > Well, I did make it to the Evansville Show a little late, but did have fun > the the time that was spent there. > Photos at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006siam1.htm From oldironnut at alltel.net Tue Jun 13 09:55:14 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:55:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: References: <20060613141804.64618.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >I sure do hope that the chair makes a Portland appearance. THAT is a >class butt buggy. Also good for thinning out the crowd. You couldn't be more wrong about a good at thinning out the crowd! As soon as Steve began winding that thing up people started flocking to it like flies on honey :-)! By the time everyone would get there he would be spooling it down and he would usually fire it up again to prevent an attack by the masses! Lincoln took a couple of videos of it on his camera and I need to send them to someone who can put them up on a web page for folks to see. Rob, are you willing to do that? >The other thing I noticed about those pics is that Lincoln is nearly as >tall as Susan!! WHEW! What are they feeding that boy?? (Probably early >and often...) Be sure and mention your observation to Lincoln when you see him at Portland because he is pretty convinced that he's not growing ANY taller. From andyglines at hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 13:03:42 2006 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:03:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <200606131600.k5DG076n010827@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Great Pics Steve, I'm glad that you came to the show and I hope that you had a good time. I'll admit my inability to remember which names go with which faces so could someone identify the characters in the group photo? I do recognize several members of my Tractor Rodeo Fan Club. Thanks to your support the dusty Farmall F-20 won the title of "Sexiest Tractor". Some guys with those ugly green tractors were grumbling about Chicago type voting. They were just sore losers. I want to thanks the SEL members for their working displays. I always enjoy an engine that is "doing something" like running a drag saw more than one that is displayed by itself. We were truly blessed with good weather and I think that everyone had a good show and a good time! >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:18:04 -0700 (PDT) >From: Steve Barr >Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Message-ID: <20060613141804.64618.qmail at web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > >Well, I did make it to the Evansville Show a little late, but did have fun >the the time that was spent there. > >Photos at: >http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006siam1.htm > >Enjoy > >Steve > From oldironnut at alltel.net Tue Jun 13 13:51:20 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:51:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andy, >I'll admit my inability to remember which names go with which faces >so could someone identify the characters in the group photo? From left to right, Devin Holland (in the chair), Steve Webre, Jennifer Webre, Mel Webre, Curt Holland, Lincoln Tucker, Susan Tucker, Mike Tucker, Dave Rotigel (kneeling), Keith Kinney, Steve Barr. > I do recognize several members of my Tractor Rodeo Fan Club. >Thanks to your support the dusty Farmall F-20 won the title of >"Sexiest Tractor". Some guys with those ugly green tractors were >grumbling about Chicago type voting. They were just sore losers. They just can't deal with folks who know that green tractors aren't the best at anything :-)! >I want to thanks the SEL members for their working displays. I >always enjoy an engine that is "doing something" like running a drag >saw more than one that is displayed by itself. We were truly >blessed with good weather and I think that everyone had a good show >and a good time! Congratulations are in order for you and the rest of the SIAM crew for putting on a FANTASTIC show! The SIAM show is always one of my highlight shows for the year and this one was no exception. Throw in that we didn't get soaking wet like last year and things can't get much better. Take care, Mike -- _____________________ Mike Tucker Midway, Kentucky, USA _____________________ From sel at antique-engine.com Tue Jun 13 17:36:38 2006 From: sel at antique-engine.com (Craig Prucha) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:36:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: <448EADC4.1010903@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <2006613173638.380907@computerone> Hi Tommy, Check out my friend Doug Allen's website. Some nice engines. Doug's Foos winching engine came from Arizona... http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines1.html http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines.html Take care... Craig On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:21:24 -0400, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >?Richard, >?That baby is a Foos. ?I've never seen a Foos winch engine though. > >?Tommy Turner >?Magnolia, Ky > > From rskinner at rustyiron.com Tue Jun 13 18:20:33 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:20:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] RE: SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <019501c68f50$bd162aa0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > prevent an attack by the masses! Lincoln took a couple of videos of > it on his camera and I need to send them to someone who can put them > up on a web page for folks to see. Rob, are you willing to do that? You bet, Mike. Tell me what you need. I could make a domain, such as lincoln.rustyiron.com, and let him do with it as he pleases, or if you just want to send me the videos, I'll put them up. > Be sure and mention your observation to Lincoln when you see him at > Portland because he is pretty convinced that he's not growing ANY > taller. The first thing I noticed in the group shot... ok, well maybe the second. The first thing I noticed was the fine array of SEL Cheesecake. But the very next thing I noticed was that it looks like the lad is bulking up... wider shoulders... you know.. the "man" look. Not the "man" look like in the rest of you wrinkled gray haired geezers, but like you were when you were young. You know what I mean? Rob From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Jun 13 18:55:59 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:55:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <26a.b575bc2.31c0c6af@aol.com> Hi List, I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. It has 12" x 2" flywheels. I need to know if I have an engine with the serial number above or below 66,000. Since the inspection plate with name tag is missing, I don't the serial number. Is there any other way to determine serial number without having the inspection plate with name tag? The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection plate, or magneto. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150250158 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Santa Maria, CA
From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 13 20:15:07 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:15:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM Photos In-Reply-To: <019501c68f50$bd162aa0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> References: <019501c68f50$bd162aa0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <1150254907.448f7f3b4ce7d@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Rob, I'm a certified "wrinkled gray haired geezer" and I'll tell you that I'm bulking up. I'm definitely wider than when I was young! 8-)) See ya, Arnie Quoting Rob Skinner : > The first thing I noticed in the group shot... ok, well > maybe the second. The first thing I noticed was the fine > array of SEL Cheesecake. But the very next thing I noticed > was that it looks like the lad is bulking up... wider > shoulders... you know.. the "man" look. Not the "man" look > like in the rest of you wrinkled gray haired geezers, but > like you were when you were young. You know what I mean? From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jun 13 20:21:39 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:21:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: <2006613173638.380907@computerone> References: <2006613173638.380907@computerone> Message-ID: <448F80C3.8050608@scrtc.com> Thanks Craig. Thats a nice big hunk of iron. Looks like the winching engines all ended up in the gold mines.... too bad the coal mines didn' t have a few.... See ya at Coolspring. TT Craig Prucha wrote: >Hi Tommy, > >Check out my friend Doug Allen's website. Some nice engines. Doug's Foos winching engine came from Arizona... > >http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines1.html > >http://www.longacrefarms.com/engines.html > >Take care... > >Craig > > >On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:21:24 -0400, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > >> Richard, >> That baby is a Foos. I've never seen a Foos winch engine though. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, Ky >> >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 14 04:41:43 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious Message-ID: Hi Folks, That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 (Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off your chin. I hope to see you there. http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ http://www.erh.noaa.gov/ifps/MapClick.php?CityName=Coolspring&state=PA&site=PBZ See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From mholland at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 14 11:31:17 2006 From: mholland at rustyiron.com (Missy Holland) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Arnie, You are just killing me. I sit at home studying, while Devin and Curt are at Coolsprings. And now you tell me the weather is going to be great. It's just not fair. Missy PS. Curt called last night so I could listen to a Reid running. >> that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot > & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the > mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) > > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 11:31:43 2006 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:31:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HI Rick, I believe the small engine is a Bessemer/Detroit variety . I used to have one but Dr Fero talked me out of it! Steve >From: "Richard Strobel" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "sel" >Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:32:15 -0600 > >Good day all; > Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining >museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. We >did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us stumped. > > 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from the >cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed and >has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. > > The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 >banger. > > Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: > > >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH > > > The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to >it. >Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft >for >a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk > > > and for you tractor guys, thought I'd throw this in as it's a quite >unique >Fordson conversion. Should work good at Portland > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2526542570039077051lWIEfk > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2980562950039077051zvkEqh > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/47015349/2945374160039077051bWfYGG > > > Hope ya enjoy and can help. It's a great tour of Butte's mining >operation >and a well spent 7 bucks. > > Take Care, > RickinMt. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Jun 14 20:10:53 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:10:53 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Unknown engine References: Message-ID: Thanks much to all that replied! I'm sure the museum will be very interested in obtaining any info on the Foos and small Bessemer. A second trip down is definetly in order!! 'preciate it RickinMt. > HI Rick, I believe the small engine is a Bessemer/Detroit variety . I > used > to have one but Dr Fero talked me out of it! Steve > > > > > >Good day all; > > Yesterday, friend Corky and I went down to the Butte, Montana Mining > >museum. Lots of big iron, some small H&M engines and had a great time. > >We > >did come across and fairly good sized "winch engine" that have us > >stumped. > > > > 2 spark plugs, rocker arms are long and go under the cylinder from > > the > >cam to the valves. Possibly air start, and no hopper. Flyball governed > >and > >has what looks like a fuel pump. Placard says 15 hp. > > > > The engine barely visible to the left is a fairly good sized Novo 4 > >banger. > > > > Hopefully someone can help and enjoy the pictures at: > > > > > >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551309542&security=OnejDH > > > > > > The other small vertical is way too kewl and we couldn't get close to > >it. > >Picture had to be taken thru a viewing window and ran a short line shaft > >for > >a sauerkraut operation. Water cooled (tank perhaps) looks ~ 2hp. > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/551309542/2289966260039077051kHlepk > > > > From rotigel at alltel.net Wed Jun 14 18:07:04 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:07:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> Hi Missy, I saw your two boys this afternoon. They are doing just fine and Curt said that Devin cooked a GREAT meal for the two of them yesterday! Dave PS, I'll see you tomorrow night! At 02:31 PM 6/14/2006, you wrote: >Arnie, > >You are just killing me. I sit at home studying, while Devin and Curt are >at Coolsprings. And now you tell me the weather is going to be great. >It's just not fair. > >Missy > >PS. Curt called last night so I could listen to a Reid running. > > >> that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot > > & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the > > mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lyle45859 at netzero.com Tue Jun 13 20:19:54 2006 From: lyle45859 at netzero.com (Lyle DeWitt Myles) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:19:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <26a.b575bc2.31c0c6af@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c68f61$6d21f720$f4978a41@cats4d7ae9feb8> These web sites may give you some where to look for information. www.hitnmiss.com , www.classiccushmanscooters.com , www.nebraskahistory.org . They may not have the information that you need but may be able to direct you in the right direction to find the information you need if it is out there to be found. Have a good day. Lyle Myles May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of FRM8198 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:56 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Hi List, I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. It has 12" x 2" flywheels. I need to know if I have an engine with the serial number above or below 66,000. Since the inspection plate with name tag is missing, I don't the serial number. Is there any other way to determine serial number without having the inspection plate with name tag? The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection plate, or magneto. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150250158 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi List,

I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. It=20= has=20 12" x 2" flywheels. I need to know if I have an engine with the serial= =20 number above or below 66,000. Since the inspection plate with name=20 tag is missing, I don't the serial number. Is there any other way= to=20 determine serial number without having the inspection plate with name=20 tag?

The engine came without a carburetor (thread type), inspection=20 plate, or magneto.=20

Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA
_______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 02:05:02 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:05:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally In-Reply-To: <012a01c68ea0$3d236840$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> Message-ID: Ah Cam you just caught us on a bad weekend mate.------Will be better next time yiu visit mate. Regards Lyndsay >From: "Cam grundy" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Manilla Rally >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:17:06 +1000 > >Hey Lyndsay it reminded me of Victoria >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndsay Frazer" > >To: >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:19 PM >Subject: RE: [SEL] Manilla Rally > > >>Thanks Patrick for the great pics. A fairly soggy weekend by the looks. >> >> >>Regards >>Lyndsay >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: "Patrick M Livingstone" >>>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >>>To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" , >>>"Stationary Engine Mailing List" >>>Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally >>>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:03:53 +1000 >>> >>>Home again after a very wet weekend. I headed north with the big Stover >>>(well wrapped before I left) on the trailer on Friday. I spent a few >>>hours >> >>> >>> >>>Patrick M Livingstone >>>Leichhardt NSW >>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>>http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at alltel.net Thu Jun 15 03:50:10 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:50:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> References: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: Howdy all, At the SIAM show last weekend, Lincoln took a few still photos and 2 videos of Steve Webre's "The Chair" and Rob has graciously put them up on a site so people can gawk at. You can access the files at . The videos are pretty big file size wise so folks on dial-up may want think about the extended download times. The video "DSCN0308.MOV" is a shorter (and smaller 13 MB file) daytime firing and "DSCN0315.MOV" is a longer (37 MB file) nighttime run with several sequential firings. It's too bad that audio isn't with it because the sound that this beast makes is definitely part of the show! Enjoy, Mike --============_-1061753884==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Unauthorized videos of "The Chair"
Howdy all,

At the SIAM show last weekend, Lincoln took a few still photos and 2 videos of Steve Webre's "The Chair" and Rob has graciously put them up on a site so people can gawk at. You can access the files at <http://lincoln.rustyiron.com/ >. The videos are pretty big file size wise so folks on dial-up may want think about the extended download times. The video "DSCN0308.MOV" is a shorter (and smaller 13 MB file) daytime firing and "DSCN0315.MOV" is a longer (37 MB file) nighttime run with several sequential firings. It's too bad that audio isn't with it because the sound that this beast makes is definitely part of the show!

Enjoy,

Mike
From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 04:40:41 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:40:41 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great videos! I hope "The Chair" is going to be at Portland. I'd love to see it in action. Instead of hopper cooking with a hit and miss, I think we should dangle a big turkey or a few doves at the end of that flame. We had to pay for a few holes in the pavement at Portland a couple years ago. I'll bring some extra money to pay for some new grass :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ========= >From: Michael Tucker > >Howdy all, > >At the SIAM show last weekend, Lincoln took a few still photos and 2 videos >of Steve Webre's "The Chair" and Rob has graciously put them up on a site >so people can gawk at. You can access the files at >. > >Enjoy, >Mike From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 15 05:54:01 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:54:01 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's Message-ID: Howdy all; Yesterday, Corky and I travelled over to Missoula, Montana, to retrieve the sawblade for my Appleton Dragsaw and get a little steam experience. Anytime we're in Missoula, we have to visit Axman's...probably one of the greatest Hardware, Farm and Ranch, stores I've ever seen. The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great display day!! I hope they never change that scenario. Here's some pix's of somewhat common combustion engines and some not so commom steam stationary. http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551385459&security=QSoMqC Catcha later, RickinMt. From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jun 15 06:17:59 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album "graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. cheers, Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 15 06:29:13 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:29:13 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's References: Message-ID: <002701c6907f$b2ac7210$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "Steam-engine mailing list" ; "sel" Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's > Howdy all; > Yesterday, Corky and I travelled over to Missoula, Montana, to retrieve > the sawblade for my Appleton Dragsaw and get a little steam experience. > Anytime we're in Missoula, we have to visit Axman's...probably one of the > greatest Hardware, Farm and Ranch, stores I've ever seen. > The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great > display day!! I hope they never change that scenario. > Here's some pix's of somewhat common combustion engines and some not so > commom steam stationary. > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551385459&security=QSoMqC > Catcha later, RickinMt. Hi Richard, Thanks for the lovely pictures. A shop like that is a joy to behold! PS Why is the Waterloo boy in front of the British flag? Mind you, We did win at Waterloo, but we didn't use the weapons in front of the flag. 8^) Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Jun 15 06:53:57 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 09:53:57 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <426.35b6b9f.31c2c075@aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/2006 9:38:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lyle45859 at netzero.com writes: . They may not have the information that you need but may be able to direct you in the right direction to find the information you need if it is out there to be found. Have a good day. Lyle, Thanks for the information. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150379636 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Santa Maria, CA
From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Jun 15 07:22:30 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:22:30 EDT Subject: [SEL] Old Iron at Axman's Message-ID: <371.57f9d8c.31c2c726@aol.com> In a message dated 6/15/2006 6:09:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great display day!! I hope they never change that scenario. Rick, Thanks for the pictures. I am surprised that you didn't camp in the store over night. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150381350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 6/15/2006 6:09:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2> =20 The old iron is shown with the new merchandise and makes for a great=20
display day!! I hope they never change that=20 scenario.

Rick,

Thanks for the pictures.

I am surprised that you didn't camp in the store over night.=20

Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA
From swebre at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 11:23:49 2006 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:23:49 +0000 Subject: [SEL] RE: Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: <200606151600.k5FG04HW016199@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: Luke, FYI, on the last firing sequence in the longer movie, sorry for the "sputtering" flame. The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only good for ~25 seconds of fun. Modifications are being considered. :) -Steve- PS - If anyone has an extra high volume fuel pump (Holley, etc) please contact me. From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 15 11:36:06 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:36:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <200606141600.k5EG03o1030000@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606152042937.SM01764@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 14/06/2006, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:55:59 EDT >From: FRM8198 at aol.com >Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed > >Hi List, >I have finally determined that I have a Cushman R-12. > >Francis Maciel >Santa Maria, CA Hi Francis, I've never heard of the R-12 (but I'm quite new to this old iron sickness). I have scanned the manual for the R20 - would they be similar? Duncan Denman has a page about the Massey Harris engines and the R14 , R20 and R30 were rebadged Cushman's If you need it let me know and I'll eMail it to you. The Cushman Company still exists (but now makes medical equipment and suchlike)and has a museum run by an ex employee who allegedly knows about the engines and their history but I wrote to them and they promised to get back to me but never did. Keep the revs up (or down) AND REMEMBER ------ Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Jun 15 12:38:26 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:38:26 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <2fb.6b762db.31c31132@aol.com> In a message dated 6/15/2006 12:10:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrye at databak.co.za writes: I've never heard of the R-12 (but I'm quite new to this old iron sickness). I have scanned the manual for the R20 - would they be similar? Jerry, Thanks for the reponse. I made the assumption that my engine is a Cushman R12 based on the Massey Harris Model R Engines Instruction and Parts book that you so kindly sent me. I am going by the size of the flywheels (2" x 12"). The information is on Page 12 - part number 29-113. The reason I was asking about the serial number is that two different types of of mixers were used depending on whether the engine was built before and after serial number 66,000 (See Page 15 - part number A19-481 or A16-481). Perhaps either one will work as I don't have any mixer on the engine. It requires the screw in head type mixer and not the slip in type mixer. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA -------------------------------1150400306 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 6/15/2006 12:10:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 jerrye at databak.co.za writes:
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sickness). I have scanned the manual for the R20 - would they= be=20 similar?

Jerry,

Thanks for the reponse.

I made the assumption that my engine is a Cushman R12 based on=20= the=20 Massey Harris Model R Engines Instruction and Parts book that you so ki= ndly=20 sent me. I am going by the size of the flywheels (2" x 12"). The= =20 information is on Page 12 - part number 29-113. The reason I was askin= g=20 about the serial number is that two different types of of mixers were used=20 depending on whether the engine was built before and after serial number 66,= 000=20 (See Page 15 - part number A19-481 or A16-481). Perhaps either one wil= l=20 work as I don't have any mixer on the engine. It requires the screw in= =20 head type mixer and not the slip in type mixer.=20

Francis=20 Maciel
Santa Maria, CA
From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Jun 15 18:05:31 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:05:31 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under Message-ID: <20060615.180532.692.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> G day. A close friend had a relative die in Cooranbong, Dora Creek or Morrissett are close by. She would like to contact a florist on the net and make flower arrangements, if that is not possible a name and phone number will do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. This is between Sydney and Newcastle. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 From plb at iinet.net.au Thu Jun 15 18:48:12 2006 From: plb at iinet.net.au (R and E Freeman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:12 +0800 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under In-Reply-To: <20060615.180532.692.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <51n3a6$ojf7ms@iinet-mail.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au> Ron,a lot of florists are tied up internationally. If your friend contacts a major florist she should be able to do it all locally. A friend in Colorado sent me a rose bush on the passing away of my mother. He ordered it from his home town and it arrived at my door a few hours later from a local florist. Ray Freeman Perth W. Australia -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Friday, 16 June 2006 9:06 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under G day. A close friend had a relative die in Cooranbong, Dora Creek or Morrissett are close by. She would like to contact a florist on the net and make flower arrangements, if that is not possible a name and phone number will do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. This is between Sydney and Newcastle. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 15 18:49:37 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:49:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: G'day Russell, look forward to having a good look at it in the next few days ,its not what i pictured when you first told me about it,very nice,cheers Dave >From: Russell Gilbert >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:59 +1000 > >G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about >the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often >e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little >frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. >Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to >Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the >furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the >effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in >design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very >good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 >to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are >in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album >"graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. > >cheers, Russell > >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Research and compare new cars side by side at carpoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F833884&_t=54321&_r=hotmail_endtext&_m=EXT From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Jun 15 20:02:37 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:02:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under Message-ID: <20060615.200238.692.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks Ray. Excellent suggestion. We should thought of that, don't wire flowers often enough. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:48:12 +0800 "R and E Freeman" writes: > Ron,a lot of florists are tied up internationally. If your friend > contacts a > major florist she should be able to do it all locally. A friend in > Colorado > sent me a rose bush on the passing away of my mother. He ordered it > from his > home town and it arrived at my door a few hours later from a local > florist. > Ray Freeman > Perth W. Australia From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jun 15 20:14:00 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:14:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> References: <1070.65.6.251.46.1150309877.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060614210336.03992d88@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <1150427640.449221f89a87f@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Missy, And tonight Curt wanted me to make sure that you knew he was feeding Devin well. The stir-fry road-kill possum he made sure looked good to me. PS - I'll see you Saturday night!! PPS - Love & kisses from Coolspring. We miss you! Quoting Dave Rotigel : > Hi Missy, > I saw your two boys this afternoon. They are doing just fine and > Curt said that Devin cooked a GREAT meal for the two of them yesterday! > Dave > PS, I'll see you tomorrow night! > > At 02:31 PM 6/14/2006, you wrote: > >Arnie, > >You are just killing me. I sit at home studying, while Devin and Curt are > >at Coolsprings. And now you tell me the weather is going to be great. > >It's just not fair. > >Missy From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Jun 15 20:36:41 2006 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:36:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under References: <20060615.180532.692.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <009901c690f6$1686ded0$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> I have arranged for the nearest florist to contact you by email Carlie Louise florist. Morrisset. Reg. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: [SEL] OT.. Help from friends down under >G day. > A close friend had a relative die in Cooranbong, Dora Creek or > Morrissett are close by. She would like to contact a florist on the net > and make flower arrangements, if that is not possible a name and phone > number will do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > This is between Sydney and Newcastle. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California > USA > http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Jun 15 22:06:47 2006 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:06:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] ] OT.. Help from friends down under Message-ID: <20060615.220647.692.2.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks Reg. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=3009370&f=0 On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:36:41 +1000 "R & M Ingold" writes: > I have arranged for the nearest florist to contact you by email > Carlie Louise florist. Morrisset. > Reg. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com Fri Jun 16 03:01:37 2006 From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:01:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Mate that is one hell of a nice engine. Well done. Pics are great. Regards Lyndsay >From: Russell Gilbert >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:17:59 +1000 > >G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about >the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often >e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little >frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. >Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to >Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the >furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the >effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in >design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very >good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 >to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are >in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album >"graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. > >cheers, Russell > >Russell Gilbert >Sunny Sunraysia >russell at ncable.com.au >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nick at holden1.net Fri Jun 16 10:47:14 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:47:14 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4492EEA2.000001.02208@YOUR-447023AE6B> Nice looking engine Russell god photos Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden -------Original Message------- From: Russell Gilbert Date: 06/15/06 14:38:54 To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop up. Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight to Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album "graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. cheers, Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 16 14:23:19 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:23:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] RE: Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44932147.9010307@insulate.co.uk> Hi Steve Jim here (for a change!!) > The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only good for ~25 seconds > of fun. > > Modifications are being considered. :) > Could you introduce propane as the afterburner?? Have you seen the 2 > stroke East German Trabant video of one on full throttle,then holding > a lit cigaret lighter at the end of the exhaust and the unburnt mix > doing a scaled down chair burnout!! Jim > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From stevebarr at ameritech.net Fri Jun 16 18:00:24 2006 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and drive on out... Steve --- Arnie Fero wrote: Hi Folks, That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 (Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember the mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off your chin. I hope to see you there. http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 16 18:17:40 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:17:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> I posted the few photos I took today at: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551428406&ran=11528 They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too small! :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; "Old Engine" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on > display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 > photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret > location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and > drive on out... > > Steve > > --- Arnie Fero wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 > (Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least > in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description > that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! > > Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember > the > mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) > > If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do > Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, > Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off > your chin. I hope to see you there. > > http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at alltel.net Fri Jun 16 18:52:31 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:52:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> References: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060616214620.01ac3288@mail.alltel.net> I noticed that some of the smaller engines at Coolspring were running. If an engine isn't running (or is incapable of running) it would seem a BIT of an OVERSTATEMENT to say that it is "X", "Y", or "Z" HP. One might correctly indicate the weight of the cast iron--but to indicate HP is a figment of an over active imagination! Dave At 09:17 PM 6/16/2006, you wrote: >I posted the few photos I took today at: > >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551428406&ran=11528 > >They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size >to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too >small! :-) > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; >"Old Engine" >Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:00 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > >>Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on >>display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 >>photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret >>location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and >>drive on out... >> >>Steve >> >>--- Arnie Fero wrote: >> >>Hi Folks, >> >>That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 >>(Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least >>in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the description >>that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! >> >>Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember >>the >>mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) >> >>If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do >>Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, >>Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off >>your chin. I hope to see you there. >> >>http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ >> >>See ya, Arnie >> >>Arnie Fero >>Pittsburgh, PA >>fero_ah at city-net.com >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oiseming at moscow.com Fri Jun 16 19:34:34 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:34:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> Message-ID: <200606170234.k5H2YjBv024217@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious I posted the few photos I took today at: http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 6&ran=11528 They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too small! :-) Rick ~~~ Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow run several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that Snow. Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought to be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. Regards, Orrin From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 16 22:54:32 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:54:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <200606170234.k5H2YjBv024217@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <00cf01c691d2$81a39960$4f704047@pengy> With my work load I don't know when I'll be able to get to Rollag. Apparently these two engines are identical. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > I posted the few photos I took today at: > > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 > 6&ran=11528 > > They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size > to > > an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too > small! > > :-) > > Rick > > ~~~ > > Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at > Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow run > several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. > "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. > He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that > Snow. > Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) > > Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought to > be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they > really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. > > Regards, > > Orrin > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 16 22:59:19 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:59:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <20060617010024.48081.qmail@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008201c691ab$d42bc030$4f704047@pengy> <6.1.2.0.0.20060616214620.01ac3288@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <00d801c691d3$2c8e2d40$4f704047@pengy> Yep if its not producing that HP and doing work then its just a big toy. As we pick up and move parts for the Tod we are weighing the parts with the load cells on the cranes. It went from an estimated 250 ton engine to 260 and now getting closer to 270. With two more pieces yet to move and weigh who knows what the final actual weight might be. The LP cylinder turned out to be 21,000 lb. heavier than I estimated. Rick PS what are you going to do with all those wood discs that are piling up around the SEL area? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious >I noticed that some of the smaller engines at Coolspring were running. If >an engine isn't running (or is incapable of running) it would seem a BIT of >an OVERSTATEMENT to say that it is "X", "Y", or "Z" HP. One might correctly >indicate the weight of the cast iron--but to indicate HP is a figment of an >over active imagination! > Dave > > At 09:17 PM 6/16/2006, you wrote: >>I posted the few photos I took today at: >> >>http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551428406&ran=11528 >> >>They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size >>to an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too >>small! :-) >> >>Rick >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barr" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; >>"Old Engine" >>Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:00 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious >> >> >>>Just wanted to let you know that there are many realy neat engines on >>>display at this year's show in Coolspring,PA ...I have taken over 200 >>>photos today and more will be taken tomorrow. Using Dialup at a secret >>>location to write this...So if you are within range, Get up early and >>>drive on out... >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>--- Arnie Fero wrote: >>> >>>Hi Folks, >>> >>>That subject is not only the featured engine for Coolspring 2006 >>>(Thurs-Sat, June 15-17) and the description of most exhibitors (at least >>>in the opinion of their significant others), BUT it's also the >>>description >>>that best fits the weather forecast. It's gonna be bloody gorgeous! >>> >>>Hot & sunny with no rain. For Coolspring that's unheard of! (Remember >>>the >>>mud bog? Remember the bass pond?) >>> >>>If you don't already have plans you can't change, THIS is the year to "Do >>>Coolspring." Think about the engines that would be regarded as "Odd, >>>Strange, and Curious" at Coolspring and you'll need to wipe the drool off >>>your chin. I hope to see you there. >>> >>>http://www.coolspringpowermuseum.org/ >>> >>>See ya, Arnie >>> >>>Arnie Fero >>>Pittsburgh, PA >>>fero_ah at city-net.com >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oiseming at moscow.com Sat Jun 17 09:27:08 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:27:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <00cf01c691d2$81a39960$4f704047@pengy> Message-ID: <200606171627.k5HGRGRU074956@mail-gw.fsr.net> Without going back and checking the facts, ISTR both engines came out of the same compressor station. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious With my work load I don't know when I'll be able to get to Rollag. Apparently these two engines are identical. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > I posted the few photos I took today at: > > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 > 6&ran=11528 > > They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size > to > > an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too > small! > > :-) > > Rick > > ~~~ > > Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at > Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow run > several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. > "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. > He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that > Snow. > Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) > > Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought to > be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they > really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. > > Regards, > > Orrin > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Sat Jun 17 12:31:26 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:31:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious References: <200606171627.k5HGRGRU074956@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <008a01c69244$a0617210$4f704047@pengy> You are correct! http://community.webshots.com/photo/551428406/2686053860033749120tDyYsX Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > Without going back and checking the facts, ISTR both engines came out of > the > same compressor station. > > Regards, > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:55 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > With my work load I don't know when I'll be able to get to Rollag. > Apparently these two engines are identical. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Orrin Iseminger" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:34 PM > Subject: RE: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick >> Rowlands >> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:18 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious >> >> I posted the few photos I took today at: >> >> > http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=55142840 >> 6&ran=11528 >> >> They are mainly of the 600 HP Snow gas engine which comes closest in size >> to >> >> an engine that would interest me. Everything else just seems way too >> small! >> >> :-) >> >> Rick >> >> ~~~ >> >> Rick, I gotta tell you, give yourself a treat and go to the WMSTR show at >> Rollag, Minnesota, and you can see an honest-to-goodness 600 h.p. Snow >> run >> several times a day. ISTR they start it either once or twice an hour. >> "Shotgun" gives the speech and starts it and he's a right congenial guy. >> He'll probably tell you more than you'll ever want to know about that >> Snow. >> Furthermore, I guarantee it won't be a snow job. :-) >> >> Rollag will be featuring Case equipment at this year's event. It ought >> to >> be a good one. I was there for the 150th anniversary of Case and they >> really went all-out to make it a memorable affair. >> >> Regards, >> >> Orrin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Jun 17 04:12:34 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:12:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron In-Reply-To: <4492EEA2.000001.02208@YOUR-447023AE6B> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060615230707.02451aa0@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060617210855.02573008@mail.ncable.com.au> Thanks guys, A couple of years ago I bought a nice large cast iron muffler. Always had a dream of owning a nice larger engine and putting the muffler to good use. well it's all done now and really looks the part. I will have to get it cleaned up and paint it. Also still need time to get the elbow grease onto the engine itself. It does look much better than when it first arrived home but could still do with a lot more cleaning. regards Russell At 06:47 PM 16/06/2006 +0100, you wrote: > Nice looking engine Russell god photos > > > > > >Nick > >Banbury (UK) > >http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden > > > >-------Original Message------- > > > >From: Russell Gilbert > >Date: 06/15/06 14:38:54 > >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >Subject: [SEL] New Aussie iron > > > >G'day all, With my work taking up way to much time I mostly only lurk about > >the SEL with the odd post. A number of good friends from the list often > >e-mail and ask what I'm up to. Well not much resto work which is a little > >frustrating but I still keep and ear out for any engines that may pop > >up. Well I got a lead which I followed through which saw me catch a flight > >to Queensland where I secured a deal on a couple of engines. It's the > >furtherest I've travelled chasing old iron but I have to say worth the > >effort as I now own a rare Aussie engine called a Graham. Quite unique in > >design for an Australian engine. It is 9hp, lamp start which is in very > >good condition. It's been sitting for around 9 to 10 years and after only 4 > >to 5 hours giving it the TLC treatment Dad and I had it running. If you are > >in the need for an engine fix, check my webshots and look at the album > >"graham" the link is at the bottom of my sig. > > > >cheers, Russell > > > >Russell Gilbert > >Sunny Sunraysia > >russell at ncable.com.au > >http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Sun Jun 18 04:30:02 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:30:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Volunteers Sought for Tod Engine Heritage Park Message-ID: <015101c692ca$8ab589c0$4f704047@pengy> The Tod Engine Foundation has made an agreement to purchase 3 acres of land behind the museum property and this includes two buildings. One building will be used for offices, library and display area for our collection of machine tools, steel industry artifacts and steam engines. The other will be used by the Tod Engine Works for our foundry. We are in need of some volunteer help this summer to work on the new site. The buildings need cleaned up, secured and renovated as well as moving the equipment collections to the building. I am usually on site on Saturdays but can arrange to be on site on any day to accomodate a volunteer's schedule. If you would like to help out please send me an email or call. Our collection is growing fast and soon we will have an outstanding facility to display our pieces of historic industrial equipment. If you have never poured iron before and would like the chance to do so that can be arranged as well. Thanks Rick Rowlands Tod Engine Foundation 2261 Hubbard Road Youngstown, OH 44505 330-272-4089 www.todengine.org William Tod Co. 34" x 68" x 60" Cross Compound Rolling Mill Engine Historic Mechanical and Materials Engineering Landmark From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 17 12:37:07 2006 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:37:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures Message-ID: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks Paul From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Jun 18 10:48:05 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:48:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <002d01c692ff$5bab3320$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks Paul Hi Paul, would http://ralph.lafayette.la.us/stationary-engines/engine.people/ be the required page. There are quite a few old posts of ATIS members on my page, http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/atis/atis.htm Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Sun Jun 18 13:05:41 2006 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim and Diane) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:05:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT Message-ID: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for my garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she answered "what kind of a car is that?" Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, CA , U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net From johnculp at chartertn.net Sun Jun 18 13:15:47 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:15:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures In-Reply-To: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> Here's a recent one of me, Paul: http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeEdith.jpg I'm the one in the hat. John On Jun 17, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Paul Maples wrote: > Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks > > Paul John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From ozhornsby at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 14:26:22 2006 From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT In-Reply-To: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <20060618212622.78794.qmail@web35409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jim Hope you said a Generic Car LOL Kerry --- Jim and Diane wrote: > I went to a local parts house today thinking to get > a new fuel filter for my > garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the > generic fuel filters?" she > answered "what kind of a car is that?" > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, CA , U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Jun 18 15:39:06 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:39:06 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> Message-ID: <000d01c69328$062dd640$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures > Here's a recent one of me, Paul: > http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeEdith.jpg > I'm the one in the hat. John > On Jun 17, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Paul Maples wrote: >> Can someone send me the link to the Sel members pictures? Thanks >> Paul Hi John, Even when you try to be a paedophile you get it wrong. 8^) Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From nancydick at pennswoods.net Sun Jun 18 19:23:26 2006 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:23:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT In-Reply-To: <20060618212622.78794.qmail@web35409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20060618192218.01b66200@mail.pennswoods.net> NO You tell them it is a Hudson Buick supper six. Red in color R Fink At 02:26 PM 6/18/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Jim Hope you said a Generic Car >LOL >Kerry > >--- Jim and Diane wrote: > > > I went to a local parts house today thinking to get > > a new fuel filter for my > > garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the > > generic fuel filters?" she > > answered "what kind of a car is that?" > > > > Jim > > > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > > Hemet, CA , U.S.A. > > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rex002 at centurytel.net Sun Jun 18 18:30:57 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:30:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] TEST Message-ID: <000f01c69340$04d8e0b0$6400a8c0@home> Just a test From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 18 18:39:08 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:39:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Message-ID: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight [$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan From asouth at strato.net Sun Jun 18 18:20:05 2006 From: asouth at strato.net (Arthur Southwell) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:20:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> Message-ID: <008601c6933e$7fbdabf0$c500a8c0@ARTHUR> Good picture John. Arthur Arcadia, FL USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" > Here's a recent one of me, Paul: > http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/SlidePicker/MeEdith.jpg From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jun 18 19:29:31 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:29:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> References: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <44960C0B.1010504@scrtc.com> Jimmy, Who are you getting the sleeve from? There used to be a company here in KY called Versnick that had the centrifically spun cast sleeves. They sold out and the facility was closed. I was just curious who was a good supplier out there now. Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of >the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight >[$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is >find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of >the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. >Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 > >Jim O'Hagan > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From lyle45859 at peoplepc.com Sun Jun 18 19:31:09 2006 From: lyle45859 at peoplepc.com (Lyle Myles) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:31:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <20060619013910.A4EF69B41B@mx-in02.mail-abuse.org> Message-ID: <000001c69348$6e04bb10$fdb85904@cats4d7ae9feb8> Jim I would think if you contacted some of the tractor dealers in your area that they could direct you to someone with the correct boring mill to do the work for you. Just thought I would pass this along to help you locate someone that could help you. I know in our area that NAPA handles a lot of work for the farmers and if you have a NAPA dealer in your area and if they cannot due this kind of work, they should know of someone who can. Hope this helps some. Lyle Myles May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight [$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at chartertn.net Sun Jun 18 20:07:37 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:07:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need link to SEL members Pictures In-Reply-To: <008601c6933e$7fbdabf0$c500a8c0@ARTHUR> References: <00d901c69245$6b87abd0$240110ac@PAUL2> <53c59f78cace630a2165951dc647c22d@chartertn.net> <008601c6933e$7fbdabf0$c500a8c0@ARTHUR> Message-ID: <290c0b98d117bf0919cb93322fd1c7bf@chartertn.net> Thanks, Arthur. The lady beside me is a dear friend, Edith Benfield, at her 80th birthday party. I like her taste in hats. :-) John On Jun 18, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote: > Good picture John. > > Arthur John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 18 20:08:29 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:08:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <44960C0B.1010504@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <20060619030902.BD3A9313C1A@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org> Hi Tommy,A few of the sources out here closed their doors. I found a company in southern Ca. called LA Sleeve @1 800 822 6005.Dave is a contact person. They make custom lengths etc.if you need it.They are on the web also. Cya,Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Jimmy, Who are you getting the sleeve from? There used to be a company here in KY called Versnick that had the centrifically spun cast sleeves. They sold out and the facility was closed. I was just curious who was a good supplier out there now. Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of >the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight >[$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is >find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of >the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. >Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 > >Jim O'Hagan > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Jun 18 20:27:40 2006 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:27:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous In-Reply-To: <000001c69348$6e04bb10$fdb85904@cats4d7ae9feb8> Message-ID: <20060619032743.B3C9A313C22@mx-in03.mail-abuse.org> Thanks Lyle, I'll check a couple of the local dealers. Napa stores around Novato,Ca are pretty much "parts stores" Most of the repair facilities are replacement specialist. The environmental regulations have pushed body ,machine ,manufacturing shops out of the area. The ones left are expensive because the cost of doing business. Thanks Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Myles Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:31 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: RE: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Jim I would think if you contacted some of the tractor dealers in your area that they could direct you to someone with the correct boring mill to do the work for you. Just thought I would pass this along to help you locate someone that could help you. I know in our area that NAPA handles a lot of work for the farmers and if you have a NAPA dealer in your area and if they cannot due this kind of work, they should know of someone who can. Hope this helps some. Lyle Myles May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] 2 &1/2 Famous Hi, Thanks for all the replies about fixing my IHC Famous cylinder. All of the solutions involved boring the cylinder The sleeve is $40.00 plus freight [$8-9.00] so that's the way that I'll probably use. All that I have to do is find some one with a boring mill. All the automotive guys passed because of the set up and depth [11"]. Thanks again, both on and off list responses. Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustyjnk at ncbb.net Sun Jun 18 22:03:21 2006 From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (rustyjnk) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:03:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] list Message-ID: <44963019.3080102@ncbb.net> sel member photos From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 18 22:09:09 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:09:09 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FW: R&V transport help please guys. In-Reply-To: <004101c6935a$803478e0$0601a8c0@altech> Message-ID: <00bb01c6935e$806d6660$0201a8c0@robscomputer> This is forwarded from Pete Lowe. Contact him directly, as he's not on the ATIS list. > Hi all >I am looking at getting a R&V vertical from North >Dakota and need help getting it eventually to Rob >Skinner in California. There is no hurry in actually >getting this engine as long as it is protected from >the elements and transport damage on its travels. Can >anyone help please, contact me direct OFF LIST to >plowe at exemail.com.au This engine is on the Canadian, >North Dakota border, so I guess it could not be >further from our normal engine group it I tried ;-((( >I can transport it to whoever is closest and is >willing to help. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > Ph: 61-266453455 > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-registe r.htm From shop at cccomm.net Mon Jun 19 06:26:56 2006 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:26:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT References: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <003e01c693a4$098af8a0$6401a8c0@Shop> >I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for >my > garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she > answered "what kind of a car is that?" On my way back from the Tulare, Ca. I had to stop at a parts store for a fuse. I was totally astounded when I walked into a Pep Boys' and found everything in Spanish. They actually had to find someone who spoke English to give me directions......... From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jun 19 07:28:42 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:28:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT Message-ID: <20060619.102848.1104.0.jlb94@juno.com> On my way back from Coolspring, PA I stopped at a hardware store to get a generator for my Coleman Gas Lantern. They didn't have it but recommended (unusual) a place right up the street called Tackle Unlimited, a fishing tackle place. Went there and they actually knew what I was talking about and - actually had it. Yes - I bought it. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 10:19:08 2006 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan Bowen) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT dumb OT In-Reply-To: <005301c69312$93f06ee0$6a00a8c0@yourvp7x3s9ctm> Message-ID: <20060619171908.44818.qmail@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To get this a little closer to on-topic,,,,, Saturday I was in a museum in a small town that has a lot of my family history around it. In the basement an old guy that was walking around telling me about a lot of the stuff gave me a chuckle or two. On topic comment below 8>)) We walked up to a dishpan flywheeled FBM Z and I asked him why it was there. You know,,, "Is there any special history connected to this engine?" The man said he didn't know anything about THAT engine,,, BUT, He did know the larger green one back there used to provide all the power for an old resort up the road. OK said I, let's go look at it. I had remembered walking past a big green pump with a rather large electric motor on it,,, I must have missed the engine,,,, We went back around a corner and sure enough he told me "this engine turns this generator." It took me a couple minutes to convince him that it was a motor powered pump instead of an engine powered generator. 8>))))) Alan Jim and Diane wrote: I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for my garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she answered "what kind of a car is that?" Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, CA , U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-643583937-1150737548=:43348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
To get this a little closer to on-topic,,,,,

Saturday I was in a museum in a small town that has a lot of my family history around it.

In the basement an old guy that was walking around telling me about a lot of the stuff gave me a chuckle or two.

                         On topic comment below 8>))

We walked up to a dishpan flywheeled FBM Z and I asked him why it was there. You know,,, "Is there any special history connected to this engine?"

The man said he didn't know anything about THAT engine,,, BUT, He did know the larger green one back there used to provide all the power for an old resort up the road.

OK said I, let's go look at it. I had remembered walking past a big green pump with a rather large electric motor on it,,, I must have missed the engine,,,,

We went back around a corner and sure enough he told me "this engine turns this generator."

It took me a couple minutes to convince him that it was a motor powered pump instead of an engine powered generator.   8>)))))

Alan

Jim and Diane <jd.kirkes at verizon.net> wrote:

I went to a local parts house today thinking to get a new fuel filter for my
garden tractor. I asked "where do you keep the generic fuel filters?" she
answered "what kind of a car is that?"

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
Hemet, CA , U.S.A.
jd.kirkes at verizon.net

How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. From curt at imc-group.com Mon Jun 19 10:41:32 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:41:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] RE: Unauthorized videos of "The Chair" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4496E1CC.5090207@imc-group.com> Steve, Perhaps just an additional fuel pump rather than a single replacement? Twin pumps and injectors in the exhaust cone? Any idea who took the picture of Devin and Lincoln roasting the marshmallows with the exhaust plume? Curt Steve Webre wrote: > Luke, > > FYI, on the last firing sequence in the longer movie, sorry for the > "sputtering" flame. The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only > good for ~25 seconds of fun. > > Modifications are being considered. :) > > -Steve- > > PS - If anyone has an extra high volume fuel pump (Holley, etc) please > contact me. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jun 19 12:25:34 2006 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] RE: Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: <000501c693b0$422dc1e0$6401a8c0@yourkybtg65gxe> References: <000501c693b0$422dc1e0$6401a8c0@yourkybtg65gxe> Message-ID: Hi John, In a word, awesome!! The weather was perfect all three days and the engines were incredible. The coolest engine there was a 1-1/2 hp McCormick-Deering "M" that ran on propane and had hot tube ignition. The display sign said that it was an experimental model designed for use in the PA oilfields. It ran really sweetly. And speaking of engines, does anyone know the make of the two engines that are on the back of this year's Coolspring T-shirt? I meant to ask but forgot to. See ya, Arnie On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, John DeBrular wrote: > Arnie, How about a report on Coolspring? From stevebarr at ameritech.net Mon Jun 19 14:55:30 2006 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060619215530.1489.qmail@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Below is a link to the photos from CPM this year... 3 pages...250+ photos...no text yet....As Arnie mentioned, I saved the best for almost last... I need to get a few projects completed for the Sandwich, IL show this weekend so the text will wait. http://www.oldengine.org/members/sbarr/ShowReports/2006CPM1.htm Steve From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jun 19 19:19:02 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:19:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Odd, Strange, and Curious Message-ID: <20060619.221904.1304.4.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Steve, Now I know what you were doing all day. Great bunch of pics. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jun 19 21:49:59 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:49:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress Message-ID: <20060620044953.KHAN5695.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Now that I have a donor wreck which gives me almost all the remaining bits for my Blackstone it is time to get it out of storage. We had to move a number of engines to get the Blackstone out (including the big R&V) but Ron's forklift is a big help. The Blackstone wreck is currently leaning up against the good engine and is full of smelly de-rusting stuff to attempt to free up the piston. Ron attempted one hit with the sledge but the piston is very, very solid in the bore. A few weeks of soaking will help. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061801.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061802.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061803.JPG Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ From michael.y at ozemail.com.au Tue Jun 20 01:11:43 2006 From: michael.y at ozemail.com.au (Michael Young) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:11:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress References: <20060620044953.KHAN5695.omta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Message-ID: <000601c69441$2b241d50$0301a8c0@Young1203> Patrick, could be that the sideshaft might be bit pesky to get off as well. I suggest the gas axe for the sideshaft and shit loads of general heat for the piston and a BIG press. Not that you asked, but my thoughts anyway Mike Michael Young 5 Beech Crescent Orange NSW 2800 AUSTRALIA http://community.webshots.com/user/mioldengines ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick M Livingstone" To: "Stationary Engine ATIS List" ; "Stationary Engine Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress > Now that I have a donor wreck which gives me almost all the remaining bits > for my Blackstone it is time to get it out of storage. > We had to move a number of engines to get the Blackstone out (including the > big R&V) but Ron's forklift is a big help. > The Blackstone wreck is currently leaning up against the good engine and is > full of smelly de-rusting stuff to attempt to free up the piston. Ron > attempted one hit with the sledge but the piston is very, very solid in the > bore. A few weeks of soaking will help. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061801.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061802.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/blackstone/06061803.JPG > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Jun 20 02:40:44 2006 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:40:44 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Engine help needed Message-ID: <062020060940.7668.4497C29C000CF18E00001DF4219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Looking for info on a 2 1/2hp Iowa, oversized engine, ser: 164520 for a lady who is not on our list. thankyou in advance, Curt Andree From curt at imc-group.com Tue Jun 20 04:35:52 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <007d01c69447$2b4d4170$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> References: <001501c693fc$8cc06ae0$03000004@bonnie> <005101c69400$05ca1b40$6401a8c0@yourkybtg65gxe> <6f6025160606192358n530387b1vf9cffd4c4fd20daa@mail.gmail.com> <007d01c69447$2b4d4170$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <4497DD98.6030902@imc-group.com> Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is! On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like: "Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous??? Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to charge exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another nice engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the Maytag is all you get." Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday night for exhibitors. R & M Ingold wrote: > This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your > toys, so be it. > I will NOT. My choice. > So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH > > >> On 20/06/06, John DeBrular wrote: >> >>> At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They >>> will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>> exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>> Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>> They charge you 10% >>> quite a bargain. >>> >>> John >> >> >> In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >> charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >> basic green field sites. >> >> Peter >> -- > --------------040803020008050207020406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt one of the finest, if not the finest gas engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!
On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like:
"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous???
Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to charge
exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another nice
engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the Maytag
is all you get."

Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC
P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday night for exhibitors.

R & M Ingold wrote:
This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your toys, so be it.
I will NOT. My choice.
So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH

On 20/06/06, John DeBrular <debrular at charter.net> wrote:

At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They
will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not
exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the
Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you.
They charge you 10%
quite a bargain.

John

In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of
charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in
basic green field sites.

Peter
--

From ozhornsby at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:03:42 2006 From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Engine help needed In-Reply-To: <062020060940.7668.4497C29C000CF18E00001DF4219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20060620120342.83181.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received a mail from a chap from Canberra who had an engine stolen on the Saturday night of the Canberra rally, not sure if at the rally grounds of sailing but be on the look out for the Vinco 2.5 hp. see http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Vinco.html His mail > Hi Kerry. > I was browsing and saw the image of my engine, (the second of the > two). > I remember you taking that image whilst at the Queanbeyan Heritage > Engine Rally Saturday 25th March. > Sorry to report that that engine and a Twin Lucas magneto was stolen > out of my car by some b---- that Saturday evening when I went for an > evening sail on Lake Burley Griffin. > I really appreciate you taking this image because I can forward it on > to the Police for their positive ID, should they ever recover the > engine. Could you please send me an electronic version by email ? Also, > do you happen to have noticed anyone taking unusual interest in the > little engine that Saturday? > Any help in tracking it and the Lucas magneto down would be > greatlyappreciated. > Appreciated. > John > > > > John Kemister. > Senior Conservator, Large Technology. > Australian War Memorial. > Canberra. ACT. Australia. > Ph 61 262434492, Fax 61 2 62434449 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From brock at netspeed.com.au Tue Jun 20 05:42:32 2006 From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock Summerfield) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:42:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Engine help needed References: <20060620120342.83181.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ad01c69467$016d4b00$5f11fea9@merlin> G,day Kerry The engine & magneto were taken from Lake burley Griffen after he left the rally grounds theres some weak pricks out there ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Morris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Engine help needed > > Received a mail from a chap from Canberra who had an > engine stolen on the Saturday night of the Canberra > rally, not sure if at the rally grounds of sailing but > be on the look out for the Vinco 2.5 hp. > > see > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Vinco.html > > His mail > >> Hi Kerry. >> I was browsing and saw the image of my engine, (the > second of the >> two). >> I remember you taking that image whilst at the > Queanbeyan Heritage >> Engine Rally Saturday 25th March. >> Sorry to report that that engine and a Twin Lucas > magneto was stolen >> out of my car by some b---- that Saturday evening > when I went for an >> evening sail on Lake Burley Griffin. >> I really appreciate you taking this image because I > can forward it on >> to the Police for their positive ID, should they > ever recover the >> engine. Could you please send me an electronic > version by email ? Also, >> do you happen to have noticed anyone taking unusual > interest in the >> little engine that Saturday? >> Any help in tracking it and the Lucas magneto down > would be >> greatlyappreciated. >> Appreciated. >> John >> >> >> >> John Kemister. >> Senior Conservator, Large Technology. >> Australian War Memorial. >> Canberra. ACT. Australia. >> Ph 61 262434492, Fax 61 2 62434449 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 20 06:21:00 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:21:00 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Solenoid engine enquiry Message-ID: <006e01c6946c$60f2c6e0$3ac10b52@no1> Hi Guys, In May, someone on one of these lists was after information on building a Solonoid engine model. I have lost the list of posts that included this subject. I have been sent an article from Practical Mechanics 1933 with info so if anyone wants it please let me know. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From swebre at hotmail.com Tue Jun 20 12:04:03 2006 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:04:03 +0000 Subject: [SEL] RE: SEL Digest, Vol 27, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <200606201600.k5KG03OG024061@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: >Steve, >Perhaps just an additional fuel pump rather than a single replacement? Twin >pumps and injectors in the exhaust cone? Yep, that's what we're considering. More fuel is a good thing at this point. >Any idea who took the picture of Devin and Lincoln roasting the >marshmallows with the exhaust plume? Thought it was Jenn. I'll check. -Steve- >>Luke, >> >>FYI, on the last firing sequence in the longer movie, sorry for the >>"sputtering" flame. The gallon can feeding the afterburner is only good >>for ~25 seconds of fun. >> >>Modifications are being considered. :) >> >>-Steve- >> >>PS - If anyone has an extra high volume fuel pump (Holley, etc) please >>contact me. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jun 20 13:41:05 2006 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:41:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4497DD98.6030902@imc-group.com> Message-ID: Hi Curt, Do I have your permission to forward this document to the board of directors at Arden? I think it might make a difference in attitude. Thanks, Steve >From: Curt >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, SEL >Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400 > >Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows >fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt >one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine show on the planet. No >charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience >Coolsprings is! >On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden >(NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me >exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag >and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like: >"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous??? >Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to >charge >exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another >nice >engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the >Maytag >is all you get." > >Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' >mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. >Curt Holland >Gastonia, NC >P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other >members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may >enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday >night for exhibitors. > > > >R & M Ingold wrote: > >>This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your toys, so >>be it. >>I will NOT. My choice. >>So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >>Reg & Marg Ingold. >>Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >>To: >>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >>Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >> >> >>>On 20/06/06, John DeBrular wrote: >>> >>>>At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They >>>>will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>>>exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>>>Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>>>They charge you 10% >>>>quite a bargain. >>>> >>>>John >>> >>> >>>In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >>>charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >>>basic green field sites. >>> >>>Peter >>>-- >> > > >--------------040803020008050207020406 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > >Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that >shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for >example. No doubt one of the finest, if not the finest gas >engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for >camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!
>On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now >Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not >find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by >borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads >something like:
>"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my >Famous???
>Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to >charge
>exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring >another nice
>engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys >the Maytag
>is all you get."
>
>Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors >only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear.
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
>P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and >other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that >others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner >on Saturday night for exhibitors.
>
>
>
>R & M Ingold wrote: >
type="cite">This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to >show your toys, so be it. >
>I will NOT. My choice. >
>So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >
>Reg & Marg Ingold. >
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >
>href="mailto:randmingold at hotkey.net.au">randmingold at hotkey.net.au >
>href="http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold">http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >href="mailto:listerdiesel at gmail.com"><listerdiesel at gmail.com> >
>To: href="mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org"><stationary-engine at oldengine.org> >
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On 20/06/06, John DeBrular >href="mailto:debrular at charter.net"><debrular at charter.net> wrote: >
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At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance >and camping is free. They >
>will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >
>exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >
>Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >
>They charge you 10% >
>quite a bargain. >
>
>John >
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>In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >
>charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >
>basic green field sites. >
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>Peter >
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> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Jun 20 13:58:04 2006 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:58:04 EDT Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH Message-ID: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, curt at imc-group.com writes: << On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me exhibiting there again >> Curt, Is Denton charging for exhibitors now or is it just Arden? There are two types of shows in my book. One is a show like Coolsprings that brings folks from all over displaying a lot of nice engines, but it is an "engine show for engine people", drawing few spectators to view your exhibit. Then there is a show like Rough and Tumble that draws a lot of spectators to view and ask questions about your exhibit. However, I agree with you: Exhibitor fee shows do not get me and my displays. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jun 20 14:23:43 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:23:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> Message-ID: <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> Tom, I've been going to Denton since '83 and they've never charged. However, the show is much more "commercialized" than most. Actually, it never began as an engine and tractor show. It began as a fly in for a local pilots group. The first year (probably around 1970 or so) had several planes and folks from the community stopped by. The next year there were many more planes and many more spectators. After a few more years it was decided that they needed to have something in addition to the planes for people to view and a tractor and engine show was suggested. Gradually the engines and tractors became the main event with planes taking second place. The crowds then became so big that there was great concern that spectators could be injured with the aircraft. The fly in was discontinued and the engine and tractor show remained. The biggest negative that I hear about the Denton show is Brown Loflin's wife who does her best to run as many people off as possible. Definitely not the personality that you need for a "front" person representing the show. There are a lot of negatives with Denton, but there are some positives. Its a good show for the family as there is a lot to do. Crafts, tractor pulls, peddle pulls, saw mill, veneer, and other displays, running steam engines, an old time "town" that contains several shops, stores, and displays from 100 years ago, a real steam train that circles the entire show grounds, good country music with often times names that you'll recognize, and other things as well. I'm not trying to plug the show as its not for everyone, but its good for others. We'll be heading down next Wednesday. Tommy >In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >curt at imc-group.com writes: > ><< On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now > Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not > find me exhibiting there again >> > > >Curt, > >Is Denton charging for exhibitors now or is it just Arden? > >There are two types of shows in my book. One is a show like Coolsprings that >brings folks from all over displaying a lot of nice engines, but it is an >"engine show for engine people", drawing few spectators to view your exhibit. >Then there is a show like Rough and Tumble that draws a lot of spectators to >view and ask questions about your exhibit. > >However, I agree with you: Exhibitor fee shows do not get me and my displays. > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. USA >Germoamer at aol.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > From rex002 at centurytel.net Tue Jun 20 14:42:30 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:42:30 -0500 Subject: [sel] another old engine, closer to divorce Message-ID: <001001c694b2$6f88be80$6400a8c0@home> ----- Original Message ----- From: rex002 To: rex002 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: another old engine, closer to divorce ----- Original Message ----- From: rex002 To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: another old engine, closer to divorce Hi all; Picked up a Baker Monitor one and a quarter horse engine yesterday and it don't need any fixen , it runs has paint , What more could I ask for ? The ole Dodge has three more bullet holes in it when my Wife saw me comming up the drive with the iron in the back (forth shot missed) . I guess she don't understand this engine will be worth millions next year :-) Anyway I met one of the coolest engine collectors in Wisconsin at the Plainfield Wi. show and made the deal ,Went to his home on Saturday for the Engine , he has many engines and tractors and demonstrated a few of his best , it made my day !, We (a a friend with me) pulled a few ticks off his old black lab while he answerd the phone in his house and maeveled at all the engines in front of us , He came back out and showed us more of his collection in three more old sheads . Wow what a great guy , He is now added to my remember forever list , . I now own the Baker and will bring it to the Badger Steam And Gas Show in August , I still need a baker pump to hook to the monitor but should have one by then , LIFE IS GOOD Rex From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 20 16:19:19 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:19:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Re: Solenoid engine enquiry References: <006e01c6946c$60f2c6e0$3ac10b52@no1> Message-ID: <000301c694bf$f5fdc070$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "atis" Cc: "Old Engine" Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Solenoid engine enquiry > Hi Guys, In May, someone on one of these lists was after information > on building a Solonoid engine model. > I have lost the list of posts that included this subject. > I have been sent an article from Practical Mechanics 1933 with info > so if anyone wants it please let me know. > Dave Croft I have found the enquirer & enough people have asked for info so I have put the pictures at my new webshots page on solenoid motors. (I will add more later) See also the site below for some interesting ideas. http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Electric_Motors/Froment_Motor/Froment_Motor.html Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From frazer.ben at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 17:30:46 2006 From: frazer.ben at gmail.com (Ben Frazer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:30:46 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <6f6bb9400606201730q29e106cbmc27c486e5a880120@mail.gmail.com> I agree entirely with Curt. In Australia there are a lot of rallies that charge only a few dollars for a saturday night meal and cleaning of the ample facilities etc (usually $5 or less total), these rallies are usually the very enjoyable ones like Wedderburn, and Bookaar etc. Then there are the rallies like Lake Goldsmith that, at least up until the last time I went there a couple of years back, charge a hefty fee for camping and provide very little, like lacklustre toilet and washroom facilities and no meal included in the charge. Now, if I go to Lake Goldsmith I will go only for the day or refuse to pay as I have done before because I am yet to see the facilities improved for the exhibitors with the money handed over, so where does it go? My two cents worth, Ben From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jun 20 19:15:58 2006 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:15:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone Progress In-Reply-To: <000601c69441$2b241d50$0301a8c0@Young1203> Message-ID: <20060621021552.IQRG9971.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@PML> Hi Mike, I am going to leave it to soak for a few weeks and then have a crack at it. It has to come out (intact) so we will try every method that can be thought of. The sideshaft has already been cut once to allow the removal of the head. The plan is to make a new sideshaft and use the brackets, cams and gear off the old one. A bit of work ahead for this one :) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html http://www.users.bigpond.com/pml/ -----Original Message----- Patrick, could be that the sideshaft might be bit pesky to get off as well. I suggest the gas axe for the sideshaft and shit loads of general heat for the piston and a BIG press. Not that you asked, but my thoughts anyway Mike From rex002 at centurytel.net Sun Jun 18 11:49:30 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (rex002) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:49:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] another old engine, closer to divorce Message-ID: <002a01c69307$efa722c0$6400a8c0@home> Hi all; Picked up a Baker Monitor one and a quarter horse engine yesterday and it don't need any fixen , it runs has paint , What more could I ask for ? The ole Dodge has three more bullet holes in it when my Wife saw me comming up the drive with the iron in the back (forth shot missed) . I guess she don't understand this engine will be worth millions next year :-) Anyway I met one of the coolest engine collectors in Wisconsin at the Plainfield Wi. show and made the deal ,Went to his home on Saturday for the Engine , he has many engines and tractors and demonstrated a few of his best , it made my day !, We (a a friend with me) pulled a few ticks off his old black lab while he answerd the phone in his house and maeveled at all the engines in front of us , He came back out and showed us more of his collection in three more old sheads . Wow what a great guy , He is now added to my remember forever list , . I now own the Baker and will bring it to the Badger Steam And Gas Show in August , I still need a baker pump to hook to the monitor but should have one by then , LIFE IS GOOD Rex From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 21 02:42:10 2006 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:42:10 +0000 Subject: [SEL] another old engine, closer to divorce Message-ID: <062120060942.8089.449914720009893B00001F99219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Gee Rex I am jealous....does that mean you won't have room for the "butt buggy" this year???? So where's the pics? Curt Andree > Hi all; > > Picked up a Baker Monitor one and a quarter horse engine yesterday and it don't > need any fixen , it runs has paint , What more could I ask for ? The ole Dodge > has three more bullet holes in it when my Wife saw me comming up the drive with > the iron in the back (forth shot missed) . I guess she don't understand this > engine will be worth millions next year :-) > Anyway I met one of the coolest engine collectors in Wisconsin at the > Plainfield Wi. show and made the deal ,Went to his home on Saturday for the > Engine , he has many engines and tractors and demonstrated a few of his best , > it made my day !, We (a a friend with me) pulled a few ticks off his old black > lab while he answerd the phone in his house and maeveled at all the engines in > front of us , He came back out and showed us more of his collection in three > more old sheads . Wow what a great guy , He is now added to my remember forever > list , . > I now own the Baker and will bring it to the Badger Steam And Gas Show in > August , I still need a baker pump to hook to the monitor but should have one > by then , > LIFE IS GOOD > > Rex > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 21 03:51:49 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:51:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <449924C5.5060909@imc-group.com> Steve, By all means share it. Curt Steve Royster wrote: > > Hi Curt, Do I have your permission to forward this document to the > board of directors at Arden? I think it might make a difference in > attitude. Thanks, Steve > >> From: Curt >> Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >> >> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, SEL >> >> Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH >> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400 >> >> Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >> participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >> mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that >> shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for >> example. No doubt one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine >> show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. >> What a great experience Coolsprings is! >> On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now >> Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will >> not find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by >> borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that >> reads something like: >> "Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my >> Famous??? >> Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided >> to charge >> exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring >> another nice >> engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys >> the Maytag >> is all you get." >> >> Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors >> only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. >> Curt Holland >> Gastonia, NC >> P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and >> other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that >> others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner >> on Saturday night for exhibitors. >> >> >> >> R & M Ingold wrote: >> >>> This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your >>> toys, so be it. >>> I will NOT. My choice. >>> So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >>> Reg & Marg Ingold. >>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >>> >>> >>>> On 20/06/06, John DeBrular wrote: >>>> >>>>> At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They >>>>> will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>>>> exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>>>> Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>>>> They charge you 10% >>>>> quite a bargain. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >>>> charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >>>> basic green field sites. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------040803020008050207020406 >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bingo Reg, you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our >> participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a >> mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that >> shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for >> example. No doubt one of the finest, if not the finest gas >> engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for >> camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!
>> On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now >> Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not >> find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by >> borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads >> something like:
>> "Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my >> Famous???
>> Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to >> charge
>> exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring >> another nice
>> engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys >> the Maytag
>> is all you get."
>>
>> Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors >> only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and >> clear.
>> Curt Holland
>> Gastonia, NC
>> P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and >> other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that >> others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner >> on Saturday night for exhibitors.
>>
>>
>>
>> R & M Ingold wrote: >>
> type="cite">This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to >> show your toys, so be it. >>
>> I will NOT. My choice. >>
>> So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors. >>
>> Reg & Marg Ingold. >>
>> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >>
>> > href="mailto:randmingold at hotkey.net.au">randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>
>> > href="http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold">http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" >> > href="mailto:listerdiesel at gmail.com"><listerdiesel at gmail.com> >>
>> To: > href="mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org"><stationary-engine at oldengine.org> >> >>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM >>
>> Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH >>
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>>
>>
On 20/06/06, John DeBrular >> > href="mailto:debrular at charter.net"><debrular at charter.net> >> wrote: >>
>>
At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance >> and camping is free. They >>
>> will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not >>
>> exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the >>
>> Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you. >>
>> They charge you 10% >>
>> quite a bargain. >>
>>
>> John >>
>>
>>
>> In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of >>
>> charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in >>
>> basic green field sites. >>
>>
>> Peter >>
>> --
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>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 21 02:54:13 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:54:13 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <200606161600.k5GG04Oi002436@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606211300156.SM01104@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/06/2006, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:38:26 EDT >From: FRM8198 at aol.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed > >Jerry, > >Thanks for the reponse. >I made the assumption that my engine is a Cushman R12 based on the Massey >Harris Model R Engines Instruction and Parts book that you so kindly sent >me. >I am going by the size of the flywheels (2" x 12"). The information is on >Page 12 - part number 29-113. The reason I was asking about the serial >number >is that two different types of of mixers were used depending on whether the >engine was built before and after serial number 66,000 (See Page 15 - part >number A19-481 or A16-481). Perhaps either one will work as I don't have >any >mixer on the engine. It requires the screw in head type mixer and not >the slip >in type mixer. > >Francis Maciel >Santa Maria, CA Hi Francis, Did you ever find out if the engine number is stamped anywhere else on the casting? I also posted this question to SEL a few months ago but got no response. If you do find out please let me know as I have 2 others (Cushmans) without plates that I would like to find out about. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 21 04:18:57 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:18:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <44992B21.7000002@imc-group.com> Tommy, You are close. The rule is that a qualifying engine (now 3HP or better) allows 2 riders in the vehicle in for free. Additional riders, including your children, are asked to pay. That is where Brown's wife and I got into it a few years ago. While I had a qualifying engine in tow, she was adamant that I was going to pay admission for either my wife or my child for the family of 3 of us in the vehicle. That flew all over me prompting me to write a letter to the board several years ago. I don't know if it affected a policy change or not, because I have not been back since. Curt Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Tom, > I've been going to Denton since '83 and they've never charged. > However, the show is much more "commercialized" than most. Actually, > it never began as an engine and tractor show. It began as a fly in > for a local pilots group. The first year (probably around 1970 or so) > had several planes and folks from the community stopped by. The next > year there were many more planes and many more spectators. After a > few more years it was decided that they needed to have something in > addition to the planes for people to view and a tractor and engine > show was suggested. Gradually the engines and tractors became the > main event with planes taking second place. The crowds then became > so big that there was great concern that spectators could be injured > with the aircraft. The fly in was discontinued and the engine and > tractor show remained. The biggest negative that I hear about the > Denton show is Brown Loflin's wife who does her best to run as many > people off as possible. Definitely not the personality that you need > for a "front" person representing the show. There are a lot of > negatives with Denton, but there are some positives. Its a good show > for the family as there is a lot to do. Crafts, tractor pulls, peddle > pulls, saw mill, veneer, and other displays, running steam engines, an > old time "town" that contains several shops, stores, and displays from > 100 years ago, a real steam train that circles the entire show > grounds, good country music with often times names that you'll > recognize, and other things as well. I'm not trying to plug the show > as its not for everyone, but its good for others. We'll be heading > down next Wednesday. > > Tommy > > > > >> In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> curt at imc-group.com writes: >> >> << On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and >> now Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they >> will not find me exhibiting there again >> >> >> >> Curt, >> Is Denton charging for exhibitors now or is it just Arden? >> >> There are two types of shows in my book. One is a show like >> Coolsprings that brings folks from all over displaying a lot of nice >> engines, but it is an "engine show for engine people", drawing few >> spectators to view your exhibit. Then there is a show like Rough and >> Tumble that draws a lot of spectators to view and ask questions about >> your exhibit. >> However, I agree with you: Exhibitor fee shows do not get me and my >> displays. >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. USA >> Germoamer at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jun 21 04:51:27 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:51:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH In-Reply-To: <44992B21.7000002@imc-group.com> References: <4ef.e85d17.31c9bb5c@aol.com> <4498675F.1040902@scrtc.com> <44992B21.7000002@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <449932BF.60001@scrtc.com> Curt, I think that's her rule, not the shows. I've always entered with my wife and 2 kids with no problem. When I see her, I simply ignore her. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Tommy, > You are close. The rule is that a qualifying engine (now 3HP or > better) allows 2 riders in the vehicle in for free. Additional riders, > including your children, are asked to pay. That is where Brown's wife > and I got into it a few years ago. While I had a qualifying engine in > tow, she was adamant that I was going to pay admission for either my > wife or my child for the family of 3 of us in the vehicle. That flew > all over me prompting me to write a letter to the board several years > ago. I don't know if it affected a policy change or not, because I > have not been back since. > Curt From FRM8198 at aol.com Wed Jun 21 07:40:42 2006 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:40:42 EDT Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed Message-ID: <38b.4a3f172.31cab46a@aol.com> In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:26:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrye at databak.co.za writes: If you do find out please let me know as I have 2 others (Cushmans) without plates that I would like to find out about. Jerry, Great to hear from you. Yes, I am in the same boat - I also have a pair of Cushmans without name tags or plate. The only thing that I found are some casting numbers. I still need a mixer, inspection plate, possibly governor parts, and magneto. To date, I haven't had any luck in locating these item. Completion of this little Cushman R12 engine is a future project. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 -------------------------------1150900842 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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<= /BODY> From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 21 08:01:45 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:01:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Solenoid engine enquiry Message-ID: <20060621.111334.972.3.jlb94@juno.com> Hi Dave, Thanks for posting the info on the Solenoid motors. I DID ask once about making small motors using doorbell coils. I've been reading the past e-mails and not realizing that this might be what I was asking about. I've looked at your Webshots and these are very similar to what I wanted. Thanks for posting. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 21 09:58:58 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:58:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed In-Reply-To: <38b.4a3f172.31cab46a@aol.com> References: <38b.4a3f172.31cab46a@aol.com> Message-ID: <44997AD2.7090507@imc-group.com> Hey, whatever happened to the fellow on the list that used to make reproduction nameplates for engines? Met him at the Orange shows a few years ago. He had a nice Triumph engine ISTR. Curt FRM8198 at aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:26:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >jerrye at databak.co.za writes: > >If you do find out please let me know as I have 2 >others (Cushmans) without plates that I would like to find out about. > > >Jerry, >Great to hear from you. >Yes, I am in the same boat - I also have a pair of Cushmans without name >tags or plate. The only thing that I found are some casting numbers. >I still need a mixer, inspection plate, possibly governor parts, and >magneto. To date, I haven't had any luck in locating these item. Completion of >this little Cushman R12 engine is a future project. > >Francis Maciel >Santa Maria, CA 93454 > > > > > >-------------------------------1150900842 >Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > >Arial"=20 >bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7>e_document=20 >face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3> >
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<= >/BODY> >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 21 12:03:53 2006 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:03:53 EDT Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH Message-ID: <4fb.f5b23e.31caf219@aol.com> Tommy, I had heard the story before on how Denton started as a fly-in show and now grown into a commercial show. And as you said it is a good show for the family to attend with lots of variety to entertain everyone, but down right expensive to get in. It is what I was alluding to when I said Coolspring was an engine show for engine folks. My wife would not enjoy herself there, but she does at Denton due to the country music, etc. I have been going to Denton for a number of years too, but only for one long day. I usually load up an engine to display or sell and get in for free. Hope to get there early on Friday the 30th. Maybe see you there. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 21 19:36:06 2006 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:36:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems Message-ID: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks From mgomaize at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:49:52 2006 From: mgomaize at yahoo.com (Tony Pitts) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine In-Reply-To: <4498A41B.4090809@bordernet.com.au> Message-ID: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, I just finished updating my web site with a bunch of pictures from my local show in Dexter, Michigan. Here is the link to the engine pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-engines.htm And here is a link to tractor pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm Feel free to browse around the site. I just got a Farmall F-20 running that had not run in 50 years. The restoration story to date is on my site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/F20NRestoration.htm Thanks, Tony ------------------------------------------ Tony Pitts Ann Arbor, MI http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf ------------------------------------------ Hudson Mills Old Power Club 16th Annual Show June 1-3, 2007 Dexter, MI http://www.hudsonmills.org --0-1651446565-1150944592=:66936 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hello all,

I just finished updating my web site with a bunch of pictures from my local show in Dexter, Michigan. Here is the link to the engine pictures:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-engines.htm

And here is a link to tractor pictures:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm

Feel free to browse around the site. I just got a Farmall F-20 running that had not run in 50 years. The restoration story to date is on my site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/F20NRestoration.htm

Thanks,

Tony

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Tony Pitts
Ann Arbor, MI
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf
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Hudson Mills Old Power Club
16th Annual Show June 1-3, 2007
Dexter, MI
http://www.hudsonmills.org

From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 22 01:55:30 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:55:30 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <000701c695d9$a14ae600$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks Hi Paul, mine work OK. If you give me your photo addresses I will try yours for you. You can call me on Skype if you wish. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 22 04:10:11 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:11 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================ >From: Tony Pitts > >Hello all, > >And here is a link to tractor pictures: > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm > >Thanks, > >Tony >------------------------------------------ >Tony Pitts >Ann Arbor, MI >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Thu Jun 22 04:12:30 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:12:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <017001c695ec$c0e213e0$4f704047@pengy> All of my 2,000 photos are available. Try it again, perhaps they were having technical difficulties and they are fixed now. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 22 04:13:58 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 05:13:58 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: Works for me Paul. Wish I Could help http://community.webshots.com/user/wheelterrapin RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Maples" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I get this message: We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and still have not heard anything. Thanks _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 22 04:54:35 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Re: Solenoid engine enquiry In-Reply-To: <20060621.111334.972.3.jlb94@juno.com> References: <20060621.111334.972.3.jlb94@juno.com> Message-ID: <4674.165.206.180.19.1150977275.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I built a solenoid motor for extra credit school project - that tells ya how many years ago. I wound the coil by hand, and used erector set metal parts for much of the rest. That baby would really run great on one of those 1.5v phone batteries like used to be available. I think I still have the coil I wound laying around somewhere. I'd saved some old car solenoids - the types used for opening the trunk, or for the idle solenoid on the carb. Figured one day I'd make one out of one of them and use 12v. Guys (or gals, sorry) who have REAL talent could make one that actually looks decent, too - machine some of the parts, etc. I just did the Red Green thing - used whatever was laying around and made it work. Bill > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for posting the info on the Solenoid motors. > > I DID ask once about making small motors using doorbell coils. > > I've been reading the past e-mails and not realizing that this might be > what I was asking about. > > I've looked at your Webshots and these are very similar to what I wanted. > > Thanks for posting. > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - > (_o_) that's why they're big." > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 22 04:59:15 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts In-Reply-To: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4498A41B.4090809@bordernet.com.au> <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4694.165.206.180.19.1150977555.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few of the original tanks were galvenized. I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. Thoughts? Comments? Bill Runnells, IA - hey, we got a full tenth of an inch of rain!! WHOOO-HOOOO! I've not seen wet pavement in weeks, literally. From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 22 05:03:15 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 05:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems In-Reply-To: References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> Message-ID: <4755.165.206.180.19.1150977795.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Rick - is this your saw? The royal #2? http://community.webshots.com/photo/92945080/1092945261049103604sPhuCx NICE PIECE! VERY NICE!!!! Looks like it's all there and works fine. Bill > Works for me Paul. Wish I Could help > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/wheelterrapin > > RickinMt. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Maples" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems > > > I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a > message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my > Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I > get > this message: > > We're sorry! > The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists. > > Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and > still have not heard anything. > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 05:33:34 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:33:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <449A8E1E.2020900@scrtc.com> I have seen them higher Luke. On a couple of occasions I've seen them in the air probably 5 ft, the tractor stops pulling the sled and the driver pushes in the clutch. Bang, the front end hits the ground and it breaks it out from under the tractor. In Louisville several years ago at the National Championship Pull, I saw a guy who wouldn't stop. The front end kept rising until it finally flipped backwards. Luckily he survived but was seriously injured. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously > high? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > ============================ > >> From: Tony Pitts >> >> Hello all, >> >> And here is a link to tractor pictures: >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tony >> ------------------------------------------ >> Tony Pitts >> Ann Arbor, MI >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 22 05:31:56 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 06:31:56 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems References: <016601c695a4$9db72b00$240110ac@PAUL2> <4755.165.206.180.19.1150977795.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: No. Believe that's Pauls. I have one similiar tho. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Webshots Problems > Rick - is this your saw? > The royal #2? > http://community.webshots.com/photo/92945080/1092945261049103604sPhuCx > > NICE PIECE! VERY NICE!!!! > > Looks like it's all there and works fine. > > Bill > > > > Works for me Paul. Wish I Could help > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/wheelterrapin > > > > RickinMt. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Maples" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:36 PM > > Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems > > > > > > I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a > > message that this page is no longer available or has moved. I got to my > > Albums, click on "Online Options" and then click on "View on Web" and I > > get > > this message: > > > > We're sorry! > > The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer > > exists. > > > > Is anyone else having this problem. I send them an e-mail yesterday and > > still have not heard anything. > > > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jun 22 06:02:43 2006 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:02:43 -0600 Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts References: <4498A41B.4090809@bordernet.com.au><20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4694.165.206.180.19.1150977555.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, although I don't think it would remove the galvanizing, I would probably try some sacrificial galvanized item first before I tried the small parts....and even then, I think I'd try just a small section first. Good Luck RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:59 AM Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts > Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ > > I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - > I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - > although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny > bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - > would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? > Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. > Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few > of the original tanks were galvenized. > I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. > > Thoughts? > Comments? > > Bill > Runnells, IA - hey, we got a full tenth of an inch of rain!! WHOOO-HOOOO! > I've not seen wet pavement in weeks, literally. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 22 07:14:07 2006 From: jlb94 at juno.com (Joseph L. Betz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:14:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture Message-ID: <20060622.101409.652.2.jlb94@juno.com> That's a nice action shot. Tractors regularly go that high while pulling. Too bad the flag man is in the way. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "The big fish always get away - (_o_) that's why they're big." From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 07:51:23 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:51:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts In-Reply-To: <4694.165.206.180.19.1150977555.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <200606221451.k5MEpXL9088934@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of bill at antique-engines.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few of the original tanks were galvenized. I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. Thoughts? Comments? Bill Runnells, IA - hey, we got a full tenth of an inch of rain!! WHOOO-HOOOO! I've not seen wet pavement in weeks, literally. _______________________________________________ Bill -- I just finished electrolytic cleaning of a galvanized tank for my son. The process didn't harm either the zinc galvanizing or the solder joints. I've put a wide variety of metals into the electrolytic vat and as long as they are connected to the negative lead to the power supply they have never been harmed. I've even used electrolysis to take the top layer of crud off badly corroded brass. It worked! Right now I have an ash pit door from an antique stove in the vat. Originally, it was nickel plated. Most of the nickel was flaked off before throwing it into the de-rust tank. Most of the rust came off right away, except for down in the nooks and crannies. So, I've left it in there for about a week. Now, after that long a period it appears as though the electrolysis is lifting off the remaining bits of nickel. It might have been loose in the first place, for all I know. It is what I wanted, but folks who want to preserve plating should be very cautious. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 07:55:03 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:55:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200606221455.k5MEt8Nc098415@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:10 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ~~~~~~~~~ Luke, you are correct. That lady should have been flagged to a stop long before the front wheels got that high. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 08:00:03 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:00:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: <449A8E1E.2020900@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <200606221500.k5MF0Hg2010131@mail-gw.fsr.net> I don't know all the tractor pulling rules, but if it were up to me, a person who refused to stop ought to be disqualified and banned from future pulls at that track. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:34 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture I have seen them higher Luke. On a couple of occasions I've seen them in the air probably 5 ft, the tractor stops pulling the sled and the driver pushes in the clutch. Bang, the front end hits the ground and it breaks it out from under the tractor. In Louisville several years ago at the National Championship Pull, I saw a guy who wouldn't stop. The front end kept rising until it finally flipped backwards. Luckily he survived but was seriously injured. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously > high? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 22 08:10:13 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pull picture. In-Reply-To: <200606221455.k5MEt8Nc098415@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606221455.k5MEt8Nc098415@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <449AB2D5.5020806@imc-group.com> Orrin Iseminger wrote: >Luke, you are correct. That lady should have been flagged to a stop long >before the front wheels got that high. > > > Flag man watching a different front end? :-) Tractor pulling chicks are kewl. There is a local gal 'bout 25, nice slender brunette, long ponytail, in a cowboy hat that pulls tractors. She's damned good at it too and always places well. Even after all these years she gets everyones attention when it's her pull. Curt From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 22 08:23:25 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:23:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] quick electrolysis question - cleaning galv parts In-Reply-To: <200606221451.k5MEpXL9088934@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606221451.k5MEpXL9088934@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <449AB5ED.4000206@imc-group.com> Bill, Out of curiosity, what brand engine is this that has galvanized fins on it? Hot dip galvanizing is a lot of trouble to go to, especially if you have to go to the trouble to keep it out of cored cavities in a high volume production environment. It is galvanized and not just spray painted that color right? If you have just a little rust on the edges, how about removing the gunk with some brush work and lacquer thinner. The use some Scotchbrite or steel wool to remove the light surface rust. I gotta galvanized question for the group too. Had to make a new battery box top for Devin's engine a year ago as the original galvanized one was missing. It looks like bling on top of the 74 year old aged galvanized battery box. Has anyone experimented with artificially aging galvanized tin to make it look like an original? Curt Holland Gastonia, NC Orrin Iseminger wrote: >Quick question for the science and metalurgy experts here........ > >I have a couple of parts off small air-cool engines that are galvenized - >I was wondering what the effect would be. They aren't really rusty - >although on is on an edge, and I thought maybe it would clean up that tiny >bit of rust and get the gunk off the finish - but then got to thinking - >would it also remove the zinc galvenizing, too? >Don't really want to remove that, it's part of the character of the parts. >Also wondered about using the process on a galvenized engine tank - a few >of the original tanks were galvenized. >I sort of suspect the joints might need to be resealed afterwards. > >T > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Jun 22 09:09:12 2006 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:09:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c69616$33ac88f0$3364a8c0@Eagle> In tractor pulling most things are normal! Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:10 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 08:30:11 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:30:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ Message-ID: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy and sometimes we carry a bit of cash on us (especially if you are buying 2 or 3 engines, heading to a swap meet, etc). Be aware that if you are stopped and its discovered that you have a significant amount of cash on you, it can be held until you prove where it came from. Also you need to know that I have seen recent figures that 1 in 4 paper bills now have some trace of drugs on them due to the increasing drug traffic. As a result, if you are lucky enough to get stopped by a patrolman with a dog and by chance happened to have several thousand in cash in your truck, the dog could possibly sniff drugs in your vehicle. Next would come the search, then seizing of the cash, etc. I don't know the circumstances behind the situation in this article, but perhaps the young lad was heading to purchase one of the expensive large gas tractors (perhaps not too but he'll have to prove where it came from in order to get it back): http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. BTW, if you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From tsmith at hal-pc.org Thu Jun 22 11:07:23 2006 From: tsmith at hal-pc.org (Tom Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:07:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> Message-ID: Sounds great but the guy that was selling the drugs is really gonna be torqued when he finds out what the going price is on a old washing machine motor. He may be inclined to change his inventory till he finds out what the side shafts will cost him. >BTW, if >you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel >free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue >County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are >buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on >you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a >Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 22 11:08:11 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:08:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> Tommy, In the event that something like this was to happen to one of us, what is the proper procedure to assure that your money does not get stolen from you by ruthless cops. Is there a form one asks for? Seems like there needs to be some legal document (receipt) in place proving that you indeed handed over X dollars in cash to a cop. I can see the very real possibility that some or all the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no cash being carried by the individual" ! You could easily be out of thousands of dollars. Curt Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy and sometimes > we carry a bit of cash on us (especially if you are buying 2 or 3 > engines, heading to a swap meet, etc). Be aware that if you are > stopped and its discovered that you have a significant amount of cash > on you, it can be held until you prove where it came from. Also you > need to know that I have seen recent figures that 1 in 4 paper bills > now have some trace of drugs on them due to the increasing drug > traffic. As a result, if you are lucky enough to get stopped by a > patrolman with a dog and by chance happened to have several thousand > in cash in your truck, the dog could possibly sniff drugs in your > vehicle. Next would come the search, then seizing of the cash, etc. > I don't know the circumstances behind the situation in this article, > but perhaps the young lad was heading to purchase one of the expensive > large gas tractors (perhaps not too but he'll have to prove where it > came from in order to get it back): > > http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 > > Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. BTW, if > you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel > free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue > County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are > buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on > you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a > Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 11:50:44 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:50:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> Curt, Another note that I forgot to mention. You ask about a receipt. Yes, by all means have the police count the money out in front of you (with all present witnessing it) and give you some sort of receipt verifying the amount. You can write it on anything as long as you get at $ figure and signature. Each state is different. In KY, you are given an inventory of everything that is confiscated. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Tommy, > In the event that something like this was to happen to one of us, what > is the proper procedure to assure that your money does not get stolen > from you by ruthless cops. Is there a form one asks for? Seems like > there needs to be some legal document (receipt) in place proving that > you indeed handed over X dollars in cash to a cop. I can see the very > real possibility that some or all the cash could be pocketed by an > individual or group of cops and the story would be "no judge, there > was no cash being carried by the individual" ! You could easily be out > of thousands of dollars. > Curt > > Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > >> I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy and >> sometimes we carry a bit of cash on us (especially if you are buying >> 2 or 3 engines, heading to a swap meet, etc). Be aware that if you >> are stopped and its discovered that you have a significant amount of >> cash on you, it can be held until you prove where it came from. Also >> you need to know that I have seen recent figures that 1 in 4 paper >> bills now have some trace of drugs on them due to the increasing drug >> traffic. As a result, if you are lucky enough to get stopped by a >> patrolman with a dog and by chance happened to have several thousand >> in cash in your truck, the dog could possibly sniff drugs in your >> vehicle. Next would come the search, then seizing of the cash, etc. >> I don't know the circumstances behind the situation in this article, >> but perhaps the young lad was heading to purchase one of the >> expensive large gas tractors (perhaps not too but he'll have to prove >> where it came from in order to get it back): >> >> http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 >> >> Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. BTW, if >> you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel >> free to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue >> County Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are >> buying an old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on >> you to pay for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a >> Maytag, you can give me the cash and everyone's happy.... >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 11:59:29 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:59:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: <200606221500.k5MF0Hg2010131@mail-gw.fsr.net> References: <200606221500.k5MF0Hg2010131@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <449AE891.7040303@scrtc.com> Orrin, The pro pullers are required to have wheels or a drag on the back of the tractor now that prohibits them from raising too far. I don't know the distance but for some reason 36 inches comes to mind. There are stiff penalties for those who don't abide by the rules. I'm not a tractor puller but my brother in law was really big in it for a while. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >I don't know all the tractor pulling rules, but if it were up to me, a >person who refused to stop ought to be disqualified and banned from future >pulls at that track. > >Regards, > >Orrin > > > > > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 22 11:37:34 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:37:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information/now Brass Spec Plates In-Reply-To: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060622203349.00ac1378@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: >From: Curt >Subject: Re: [SEL] Cushman R-12 Information Needed >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Hey, whatever happened to the fellow on the list that used to make >reproduction nameplates for engines? Met him at the Orange shows a few >years ago. He had a nice Triumph engine ISTR. >Curt Hi Curt, It was not me - Never been there - but I do make replica Brass spec. plates - see them at : This is just a bit of unashamed advertising !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 22 11:44:21 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:44:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems In-Reply-To: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606222102125.SM00324@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: >From: "Paul Maples" >Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems > > >I cannot open up any of my picture albums on the web, I keep getting a >message that this page is no longer available or has moved. >Thanks Hi Paul, It may have been a temporary problem - try clearing your browser's cache as well as the "Reload" button. Hope this helps Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jun 22 11:58:30 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:58:30 +0200 Subject: [SEL] now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <20060622210278.SM00324@new.databak.co.za> At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: >From: "Luke Tonneberger" >Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor > pull picture >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously high? > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG > >Luke Tonneberger >Rockford, Michigan >USA Hi Luke, We don't have tractor pull competitions here but this reminds me of when I was younger and stupider (some people would say it was the other way around). I tried to pull a stuck truck out of loose sand with my Massey Ferguson 35 using a cable. I just hooked the cable into the tractors top link (it was the most accessible spot) and put her into extra low and started pulling. Before you could say "Stupid Fool" the front wheels were higher than my head. I hit the clutch but it would not release - in desperation I managed to bang the gear lever hard enough to disengage and the tractor fell back to earth - the front wheels bounced a few times but fortunately nothing broke. Since then I ONLY ever hitch a cable to the casting below the front wheels and run it out below the rear axle to the item being towed. Much safer. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 12:10:51 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:10:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <449AEB3B.1040803@scrtc.com> I posted the wrong link a few minutes ago. Curt pointed it out to me and I posted this message to him. The correct link is found in it. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > Curt, > Another note that I forgot to mention. You ask about a receipt. > Yes, by all means have the police count the money out in front of you > (with all present witnessing it) and give you some sort of receipt > verifying the amount. You can write it on anything as long as you get > at $ figure and signature. Each state is different. In KY, you are > given an inventory of everything that is confiscated. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > >> >> > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 12:29:18 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:29:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AEB3B.1040803@scrtc.com> References: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> <449AE684.3020402@scrtc.com> <449AEB3B.1040803@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <449AEF8E.5020704@scrtc.com> Boy, am I having a bad day. Here is the email and link: Yes Curt, wrong link and I apologize. The link I listed was a story about my good friend the Ky Chief Justice who is in some hot water. I was sending it to a friend and mistakenly posted it in the SEL email. Here is the right one: http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189000 Tommy Turner Magnolia, Ky From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 15:28:50 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:28:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / nowtractor pullpicture In-Reply-To: <449AE891.7040303@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <200606222229.k5MMSwR5087441@mail-gw.fsr.net> Good idea. Whew! That's a relief. I'm glad somebody addressed the problem. Many people have been killed by tractors that end-overed onto the operator. It's not an insignificant problem. Regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / nowtractor pullpicture Orrin, The pro pullers are required to have wheels or a drag on the back of the tractor now that prohibits them from raising too far Snip Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 22 15:44:02 2006 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:44:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Webshots Problems - Thanks Message-ID: <008701c6964d$5ce3a9b0$240110ac@PAUL2> Thanks everyone who wrote in with their suggestions as to what my problem might be in regards to me not being able to access my picture albums on the web. I got the following message from Webshots Support: Hello Paul, Currently there is a bug in the software that causes the "view on web" part of the software to act that way. Our engineers are working on a fix for this. I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing. Regards, Louis Webshots Support www.webshots.com I have developed a "work around" until such time as they can get it fixed so I am good to go now. Thanks again everyone. Paul From oiseming at moscow.com Thu Jun 22 16:05:14 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:05:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine In-Reply-To: <20060622024952.69605.qmail@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200606222305.k5MN5SfE087552@mail-gw.fsr.net> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tony Pitts Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:50 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; Farmall/IHC mailing list; Bill Pitts; Charles Pitts; Nebraska Cowman; Barbara Pitts; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine Hello all, I just finished updating my web site with a bunch of pictures from my local show in Dexter, Michigan. Here is the link to the engine pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-engines.htm And here is a link to tractor pictures: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/hmshowpics-tractors.htm Feel free to browse around the site. I just got a Farmall F-20 running that had not run in 50 years. The restoration story to date is on my site. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/F20NRestoration.htm Thanks, Tony ------------------------------------------ Tony Pitts Ann Arbor, MI http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf ------------------------------------------ Hudson Mills Old Power Club 16th Annual Show June 1-3, 2007 Dexter, MI http://www.hudsonmills.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tony, thank you for the very interesting pix. Thank you for sharing them. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time. From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 22 16:24:35 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:24:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449AB783.5000108@scrtc.com> Message-ID: <000a01c69653$077d6c30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > http://press.ky.gov/PressClipDetail.asp?REC=189012 > > Just a note to everyone to be aware of what could happen. Hi Tommy, The government is filled with opportunists whose goals are to subvert the Constitution in order to serve their personal interests. They are just as bad as the criminals who they claim to oppose. There is no ambiguity in the following passage: No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; Hang 'em high, Judge. Rob From rskinner at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 22 16:26:57 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:26:57 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <449ADC8B.8030802@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <000b01c69653$5c422ad0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> >I can see the very real possibility that some or all >the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group >of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no >cash being carried by the individual" ! Hi Curt, In these parts, the department gets to keep a large portion of whatever they seize. No B.S. It's true. Houses, cars, boats, planes, cash... From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Thu Jun 22 16:30:41 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:30:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine /nowtractor pullpicture References: <200606222229.k5MMSwR5087441@mail-gw.fsr.net> Message-ID: <000c01c69653$e16432d0$3ac10b52@no1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orrin Iseminger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine /nowtractor pullpicture > Good idea. Whew! That's a relief. I'm glad somebody addressed the > problem. Many people have been killed by tractors that end-overed onto the > operator. It's not an insignificant problem. > Regards, Orrin I still remember in 1978 when I went to my Danish friends museum for the first time. He was trying to move a large horizontal engine into the museum building using a tractor with a rear forklift type loader. He could lift the engine enough to move the tractor forwards & back but the front wheels were 6 Ins off the ground. My English friend & I sat astride the bonnet of the tractor so that the front wheels were hard enough on the ground that he could steer the tractor into the museum doorway. Jens died a few years ago & is a deeply missed friend. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 22 16:49:34 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:49:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots Message-ID: <000801c69656$8462d020$6400a8c0@home> Here is some pics of some of my engines , the Baker Monitor is included , let me know if this link dosen't work , I had them all running but Tyson the Farm master last night while sipping on a 12 pack of Coors Lite , all went well Had fun and slept well Rex Hinz From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 22 16:51:18 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:51:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots Message-ID: <001101c69656$c245b560$6400a8c0@home> Wow I hit send before I put the link on Here it is http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551585036&security=DeqCwx ----- Original Message ----- From: Rex Hinz To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots Here is some pics of some of my engines , the Baker Monitor is included , let me know if this link dosen't work , I had them all running but Tyson the Farm master last night while sipping on a 12 pack of Coors Lite , all went well Had fun and slept well Rex Hinz From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 22 18:41:13 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:41:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <000b01c69653$5c422ad0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> References: <000b01c69653$5c422ad0$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <449B46B9.2010808@scrtc.com> Rob, The Federal Government as well as most states have a forfeiture provision where the police agency that makes the confiscation may keep the proceeds (money, vehicles, boats, planes, property, even antiques) if they can prove the funds/items were received or used for illegal purposes. I'm only aware of a forfeiture in our part of the state via a plea agreement where an individual admits that the money he was carrying was from drug traffic, the vehicle he was driving was used or purchased with drug money or the items (antiques, etc) were used as part of a money laundering scheme. Forfeiture (at least here) is difficult to obtain as well it should be. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY >>I can see the very real possibility that some or all >>the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group >>of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no >>cash being carried by the individual" ! >> >> > >Hi Curt, >In these parts, the department gets to keep a large portion >of whatever they seize. No B.S. It's true. Houses, cars, >boats, planes, cash... > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > --------------070708060404010902060400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob,
    The Federal Government as well as most states have a forfeiture provision where the police agency that makes the confiscation may keep the proceeds (money, vehicles, boats, planes, property, even antiques) if they can prove the funds/items were received or used for illegal purposes. I'm only aware of a forfeiture in our part of the state via a plea agreement where an individual admits that the money he was carrying was from drug traffic, the vehicle he was driving was used or purchased with drug money or the items (antiques, etc) were used as part of a money laundering scheme. Forfeiture (at least here) is difficult to obtain as well it should be.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY

I can see the very real possibility that some or all the cash could be pocketed by an individual or group of cops and the story would be "no judge, there was no cash being carried by the individual" !

Hi Curt, In these parts, the department gets to keep a large portion of whatever they seize. No B.S. It's true. Houses, cars, boats, planes, cash... _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

From isandian at bigpond.net.au Fri Jun 23 00:37:24 2006 From: isandian at bigpond.net.au (Ian Browning) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:37:24 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot References: <200606221600.k5MG05HC010379@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <006001c69697$de87aee0$0100000a@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Hi all, The comment below on the action shot says it all. Here in Australia we have a widely accepted set of rules for tractor pulling, which among other matters, limits the height of the drawbar (to reduce the likelihood of the front rearing up) and requiring cessation of the pull as soon as the front wheels are discernibly off the ground. The insurance consequences of an injury or fatal accident are just too serious to contemplate! <006001c69697$de87aee0$0100000a@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <00d201c696aa$83b63140$05daa03a@chaos> http://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/face/Face-main/Data-Sums/Trac-Roll-Sum.htm Testimony to that fatg game. Are there no laws about ROPD's ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Browning" To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot > Hi all, > The comment below on the action shot says it all. Here in Australia From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 23 04:31:16 2006 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:31:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot In-Reply-To: <00d201c696aa$83b63140$05daa03a@chaos> References: <200606221600.k5MG05HC010379@heavyiron.atis.net> <006001c69697$de87aee0$0100000a@nsw.bigpond.net.au> <00d201c696aa$83b63140$05daa03a@chaos> Message-ID: <449BD104.7060009@scrtc.com> Derek, All tractors manufactured after sometime in the 80's have to have the ROPS (Roll Over Prevention System). But, the older tractors are not required by law to be retrofitted although many have been. The tractor manufacturers from time to time will have roll over awareness programs and offer specials and discounts on the installation of ROPS. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > http://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/face/Face-main/Data-Sums/Trac-Roll-Sum.htm > > > Testimony to that fatg game. > Are there no laws about ROPD's ? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Browning" > > To: > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:07 PM > Subject: [SEL] Re: Tractor pull action shot > > >> Hi all, >> The comment below on the action shot says it all. Here in Australia > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 05:05:40 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:05:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <001101c69656$c245b560$6400a8c0@home> References: <001101c69656$c245b560$6400a8c0@home> Message-ID: <449BD914.9000201@imc-group.com> Rex, Enjoyed the pictures of your engines. I noticed the his and her garage spaces and am presuming that the Dodge truck is yours (correct Kelley?) and since it is in the garage, this means that the engines must be occupying her side of the garage, displacing her car outside in the weather. Is this a summer only condition as Arnie has done to his wife's car? or year round as it should be? It's only proper that a man's truck and his engines should both be in the dry. In the event that you acquire an engine that would displace your truck temporarily while additional barn/garage space is being built for your truck, it is entirely approprate to expect your wife to scrape your windshield for you in the mornings. Afterall, she will already be doing hers, and it's more efficient if she just goes ahead and scrapes your's at the same time. Don't worry, in time she'll learn to scrape your's first, just give her time. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. Rex Hinz wrote: > Wow I hit send before I put the link on Here it is >http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=551585036&security=DeqCwx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rex Hinz > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:49 PM > Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots > > > Here is some pics of some of my engines , the Baker Monitor is included , let me know if this link dosen't work , I had them all running but Tyson the Farm master last night while sipping on a 12 pack of Coors Lite , all went well Had fun and slept well > > Rex Hinz >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 23 05:33:19 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:33:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k Message-ID: Hi All, Lyndsay and myself went on a run up to Russell Gilberts last sunday{ 5-6 hour drive} to pick up a stover k 1 1/2HP, talk about country hospitality,saw russells nice new Graham running -beautiful plus some other nice engines,all in all after a very late night it was a very enjoyable night of entertainment,thanks Russell, from Dave and Lyndsay ps the stover is already stripped and half primmered. _________________________________________________________________ Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 23 06:16:12 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:16:12 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... In-Reply-To: <449BD914.9000201@imc-group.com> Message-ID: Curt, Maybe we're missing something by not having a nickname for our engines? After all Arnie has his Lorenz named Sophie and his Crossley named Fat Bastard. When you reach the pinnacle of engine collecting stardom you yourself will get a nick like Novoboy did! http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/images/novoboy.jpg Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============== >From: Curt > >P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. > From bill at antique-engines.com Fri Jun 23 07:27:51 2006 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] now tractor pull picture In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060622204453.00ac3340@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <200606221600.k5MG05HF010379@heavyiron.atis.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20060622204453.00ac3340@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <3652.165.206.180.19.1151072871.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Have you ever seen the cable - or chain - break and hit someone in the head? In one case i saw, the cable broke and it snapped like slingshot busting the glass out of the cab. Lucky driver had a cab between him and it or I hate to think........ Bill > At 06:00 PM 22/06/2006, you wrote: > >>From: "Luke Tonneberger" >>Subject: RE: [SEL] Re: Please help identify this engine / now tractor >> pull picture >>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >>Is it just me or does the front end of this tractor look dangerously >> high? >> >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/pitts/mbf/images/DSC00943.JPG >> >>Luke Tonneberger >>Rockford, Michigan >>USA > > Hi Luke, > We don't have tractor pull competitions here but this reminds me > of when I was younger and stupider (some people would say it was the other > way around). I tried to pull a stuck truck out of loose sand with my > Massey > Ferguson 35 using a cable. I just hooked the cable into the tractors top > link (it was the most accessible spot) and put her into extra low and > started pulling. Before you could say "Stupid Fool" the front wheels were > higher than my head. I hit the clutch but it would not release - in > desperation I managed to bang the gear lever hard enough to disengage and > the tractor fell back to earth - the front wheels bounced a few times but > fortunately nothing broke. > Since then I ONLY ever hitch a cable to the casting below the > front wheels and run it out below the rear axle to the item being towed. > Much safer. > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 > Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. > www.oldengine.org/members/evans > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 23 08:55:57 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:55:57 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... Message-ID: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Hi Curt Don't these count? Tillie http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm Norma Jean http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm Douglas http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm Margaret http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm Rex, if your Baker Monitor is as beautiful as mine, you'll understand the reasoning behind the name! Dolly Curt wrote: > > P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 23 08:57:39 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:57:39 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... Message-ID: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for Arnie to answer emails, bless your heart. Dolly Curt wrote: > P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will > bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 10:09:21 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:09:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> References: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <449C2041.2010503@imc-group.com> Good girl! American gals could sure learn a thing or two from you proper English gals. Your skills and sense of duty and devotion never cease to amaze! Curt :-) Jim French wrote: > > Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for > Arnie to answer emails, bless your heart. > > Dolly > > Curt wrote: > >> P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will >> bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) > > > From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 10:25:43 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:25:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <449C2417.5050006@imc-group.com> Dolly, They sure do. I know chicks that name their cars, lawn mowers, etc., but very few guys that actually name each and everyone of their engines. Luke reminded about 2 of Arnie's named engines, Fat Bastard and Sophia. But I've always had my suspicions that you had a role in the creative naming. 'Till now I hadn't heard the Miss Whiplash/Bamford name, but after listening to the sound byte, it's certainly fitting. Well I better not keep you from your beer and chips duty, so I'll keep this short. Cheers. Curt Jim French wrote: > > Hi Curt > > Don't these count? > Tillie > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > Norma Jean > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm > Douglas > http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm > Margaret > http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm > And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm > > Rex, if your Baker Monitor is as beautiful as mine, you'll understand > the reasoning behind the name! > > Dolly > Curt wrote: > >> >> P.P.S. Rex, you are the only guy I know that has named his engines. > > > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Fri Jun 23 10:59:50 2006 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:59:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C2417.5050006@imc-group.com> References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> <449C2417.5050006@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <449C2C16.6000204@insulate.co.uk> Hi Curt Well, I certainly came up with Norma Jean, Tillie was obvious, Douglas was the product of Jim's creative mind (Fairbanks model ... Douglas Fairbanks, Junior), Margaret was named by the Culp family, Jim's brother christened Miss Whiplash and Fat Bastard started life as an SEL Member's engine being called Bing (Crossley), but after unloading it, Jim and Tom decided that Fat Bastard was far more appropriate. Well, must go. Arnie, Jim and Tom have had a busy afternoon loading Tillie up ready for her first visit to the 1000 Engine rally this weekend, so I'd better get their dinner done ;-) Dolly Curt wrote: > Dolly, > They sure do. I know chicks that name their cars, lawn mowers, etc., > but very few guys that actually name each and everyone of their > engines. Luke reminded about 2 of Arnie's named engines, Fat Bastard > and Sophia. But I've always had my suspicions that you had a role in > the creative naming. > 'Till now I hadn't heard the Miss Whiplash/Bamford name, but after > listening to the sound byte, it's certainly fitting. > Well I better not keep you from your beer and chips duty, so I'll keep > this short. Cheers. > Curt > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 23 11:37:24 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:37:24 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <200606231600.k5NG050l002062@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060623203030.00acd410@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 23/06/2006, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:30:11 -0400 >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Subject: [SEL] Spam/Phish> > > >I know that some of this old iron is getting high to buy > >BTW, if >you're traveling through central KY and happen to get stopped, feel free >to have the officer call me (just tell him to call the LaRue County >Courthouse and they can find me). I'll verify that you are buying an >old engine from me and are carrying a great deal of cash on you to pay >for it. Then, you can come to my place, we'll load up a Maytag, you can >give me the cash and everyone's happy.... > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY Great Try Tommy, But from what I read, the smell of a Maytag, could also get you into trouble with the sniffer digs ! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From curt at imc-group.com Fri Jun 23 11:59:21 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:59:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Small flywheel pattern work for Leroy CLark. Message-ID: <449C3A09.20306@imc-group.com> Have_ finally_ gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he and Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the pattern in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old timers did far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! I'll keep adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I worked on this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. Hope you enjoy. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC --------------060302070106000804060808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have finally gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he and Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the pattern in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old timers did far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! I'll keep adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I worked on this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. Hope you enjoy.
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Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

From jrrowlands at neo.rr.com Fri Jun 23 14:25:00 2006 From: jrrowlands at neo.rr.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:25:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Small flywheel pattern work for Leroy CLark. References: <449C3A09.20306@imc-group.com> Message-ID: <006401c6970b$7c865290$4f704047@pengy> Curt, Looks good. The Tod Engine Works foundry has been out of commission for two days. The bottom of the furnace developed a big crack and molten iron began pouring out the bottom. I've had to completely tear down the furnace, build a new bottom and tommorrow after the refractory sets up I'll finish relining and be back in business. I've made a few improvements that hopefully will prevent another cracked bottom. I have a rush job of 16 castings to do by Monday so Zara and I will be there all weekend. Rick PS It looks like a couple of months at the earliest before I can even think about moving operations to the new place. Might even be well into fall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt" To: "SEL" ; "SEL (Oldengine.org)" Cc: "Brice Adams" Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: [SEL] Small flywheel pattern work for Leroy CLark. > Have_ finally_ gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he and > Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the pattern > in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old timers did > far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! I'll keep > adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I worked on > this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. Hope you > enjoy. > > Curt Holland > Gastonia, NC > > > > --------------060302070106000804060808 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > > Have finally gotten started on Leroy's flywheel pattern that he > and Brice won at last year's charity auction. Was hoping to make the > pattern in aluminum but couldn't get access to a CNC mill. Hey, the old > timers did far more complex pattern in wood manually, so why can't we! > I'll keep adding photos a couple of times a week as I make progress. I > worked on this a few nights this week and so far here is the progress. > Hope you enjoy.
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> Curt Holland
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> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From johnculp at chartertn.net Fri Jun 23 14:31:53 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:31:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Also, there's Dolly named for Mrs. French, with a purple cooling tank accordingly. One of the Maytags here is Dave, and another is Penelope. Then there's Thomas the Twin, who got renamed Garfield when painted in orange tiger stripes at Portland a few years ago. John On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Jim French wrote: > > Hi Curt > > Don't these count? > Tillie > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > Norma Jean > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm > Douglas > http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm > Margaret > http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm > And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash > http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From rex002 at centurytel.net Fri Jun 23 17:59:21 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:59:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthe gals..... References: <449C0F0D.8020505@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <000c01c69729$6ed899a0$6400a8c0@home> OK List , I'm not the only one who call their engines names, I've heard a few at diffrent shows call their engines some names I can't repeat here , espicaly one show where a rain shower hit with no warning , when the rain stopped it was time to fire up again OMG had to plug my ears, anyway I put the names on so I remember where,when and how I got them and from whom , I don't really talk to them or take them to movies but once in awhile I'll have a beer with them . and yes Curt I make my wife park her car outside so I can put the engines under cover especialy during winter , I do put the push mower in front of the engines so she don't have to lift it over the engines (don't want her to hurt her back till the two acres are mowed) she can do one acre in about an hour then she takes a break and fixes my meal then finishes the lawn then off to work she goes , sometimes I"m just too nice ! I help her out sometimes , the grass don't grow under my engine trailer. Rex Hinz ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthe gals..... > Also, there's Dolly named > for Mrs. French, with a purple cooling tank accordingly. > > One of the Maytags here is Dave, and another is Penelope. Then there's > Thomas the Twin, who got renamed Garfield when painted in orange tiger > stripes at Portland a few years ago. > > John > > On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Jim French wrote: > >> >> Hi Curt >> >> Don't these count? >> Tillie >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm >> Norma Jean >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/normajean.htm >> Douglas >> http://www.insulate.co.uk/jim/modelf-m.htm >> Margaret >> http://www.insulate.co.uk/helen/maytag.htm >> And don't forget Arnie's Miss Whiplash >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/bamford.htm > > > John Culp > Bristol, Tennessee, USA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 23 21:55:29 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:55:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of Kero is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. Russell At 10:33 PM 23/06/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All, Lyndsay and myself went on a run up to Russell Gilberts last >sunday{ 5-6 hour drive} to pick up a stover k 1 1/2HP, talk about country >hospitality,saw russells nice new Graham running -beautiful plus some >other nice engines,all in all after a very late night it was a very >enjoyable night of entertainment,thanks Russell, from Dave and Lyndsay ps >the stover is already stripped and half primmered. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. >http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 23 21:55:29 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:55:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of Kero is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. Russell At 10:33 PM 23/06/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All, Lyndsay and myself went on a run up to Russell Gilberts last >sunday{ 5-6 hour drive} to pick up a stover k 1 1/2HP, talk about country >hospitality,saw russells nice new Graham running -beautiful plus some >other nice engines,all in all after a very late night it was a very >enjoyable night of entertainment,thanks Russell, from Dave and Lyndsay ps >the stover is already stripped and half primmered. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. >http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 24 12:14:35 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:14:35 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Info / Watch your $$ In-Reply-To: <200606241600.k5OG052K021108@heavyiron.atis.net> Message-ID: <200606242117625.SM01276@new.databak.co.za> Sorry Guys - That should have read "sniffer dogs" - fat finger problems. Jerry At 06:00 PM 24/06/2006, you wrote: >Great Try Tommy, > But from what I read, the smell of a Maytag, could also get you >into trouble with the sniffer digs ! > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Tel. (016) 365-5787 or 083 283 7191 >Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. >www.oldengine.org/members/evans > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Best regards Jerry Evans. Visit our website: www.databak.co.za --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From shop at cccomm.net Sat Jun 24 12:42:27 2006 From: shop at cccomm.net (Dave Ernst) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:42:27 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Aermotor References: <200606242117625.SM01276@new.databak.co.za> Message-ID: <005101c697c6$52cfd9b0$6401a8c0@Shop> Is there any serial number list out there concerning these fluted hopper engines? Thanks Dave From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 06:45:47 2006 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:45:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <449C0F73.3000503@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: And I've been out of town sweating it up in Bakersfield (100+ degrees) earning a living so Rob can buy more toys and afford his top shelf beer. I hate to see him have to drink Coors or Bud swill. -- Kelley On 6/23/06 8:57 AM, "Jim French" wrote: > > Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for Arnie > to answer emails, bless your heart. > > Dolly > > Curt wrote: > >> P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will >> bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 25 07:21:02 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:21:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... References: Message-ID: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Leave him, come and work here and I will drink swill. You are a goddess! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelley Garcia" To: "SEL" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... > And I've been out of town sweating it up in Bakersfield (100+ degrees) > earning a living so Rob can buy more toys and afford his top shelf beer. > > I hate to see him have to drink Coors or Bud swill. > -- > Kelley > > > > On 6/23/06 8:57 AM, "Jim French" wrote: > >> >> Curt, honey, I'm just wayyy to busy fetching beer and snacks for Arnie >> to answer emails, bless your heart. >> >> Dolly >> >> Curt wrote: >> >>> P.S. The gals have been real quiet for a while. Perhaps this will >>> bring them out of the woodwork (bad choice of words perhaps?) :-) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mholland at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 07:46:29 2006 From: mholland at rustyiron.com (Missy Holland) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Russell, They really missed out if there were no pancakes to eat and AC/DC to dance to. Missy > Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife > who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of > Kero > is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. > Russell > From russell at ncable.com.au Sun Jun 25 14:41:29 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:41:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060626073907.0259b5a8@mail.ncable.com.au> Missy they had a lot of competition to compete with didn't they. And looking back the guys fell a bit short as we never did listen to any ACDC either. Although let Curt know we did give the Bum Crack engine a bit of a run :-) Russell At 10:46 AM 25/06/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Russell, > >They really missed out if there were no pancakes to eat and AC/DC to dance >to. > >Missy > > > Gee Dave you don't mess around. You better not forget Marg' Lyndsay's wife > > who also had to put up with us. It was the girls fault for keeping us late > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some time. the smell of > > Kero > > is still strong in the shed after running the Graham. > > Russell > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 15:54:44 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:54:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > Leave him, come and work here and I will >drink swill. You, sir, have insulted the honor of m'lady. I demand satisfaction! I challenge you to a duel. Sabres at the morn! Rob P.S. Jeez! To think that a cultured lass would serve anything less than the finest ale! From johnculp at chartertn.net Sun Jun 25 16:01:20 2006 From: johnculp at chartertn.net (John Culp) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:01:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with the gals..... In-Reply-To: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> References: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <919929248bbf69147b0a40059b9b4000@chartertn.net> I believe the proper terminology for such an invitation, Mike, would include the words: "I'd drink muddy water, And sleep in a hollow log." John Culp Bristol, Tennessee, USA From rotigel at alltel.net Sun Jun 25 19:22:38 2006 From: rotigel at alltel.net (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:22:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060625222023.01adac20@mail.alltel.net> At 10:46 AM 6/25/2006, you wrote: >Russell, > >They really missed out if there were no pancakes to eat and AC/DC to dance >to. > >Missy Hi Missy, I'm not sure that I'd want to dance with anyone who is AC/DC, but if that sort of thing flips Russell trigger then so be it! Dave From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Jun 25 19:36:06 2006 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:36:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] House on the Rock, on topic Message-ID: <410-2200661262366937@earthlink.net> Did the family vacation thing (will be a few years before I attempt that again) this past week with one of our stops being the House on the Rock in Dodgeville WI. I've heard about the place for some years now and decided that we would go and see it. Was about 4 1/2 hours into the tour of it when I discovered some really BIG engines hanging around. Seems that this guy who collected just about everything also collected some good sized compound double acting engines, all direct connect to dyno's. The worst part of it was that they were hard to see through all the other stuff there and it looked as though someone had taken a disc sander and just went all over them to clean off the rust and that's the way they were left. Seen lots of traction engines there as well, some of them were even sitting about 15 feet off of the floor on brackets coming off the walls. Any one else been there and seen these engines? Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 25 20:24:38 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:24:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... References: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <001801c698d0$0ea52000$536b4b47@mikecomp> Accepted!!!!!!! But instead of sabresesses we will use swords!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: RE: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... >> Leave him, come and work here and I will >>drink swill. > > You, sir, have insulted the honor of m'lady. I demand > satisfaction! I challenge you to a duel. Sabres at the > morn! > > Rob > > P.S. > Jeez! To think that a cultured lass would serve anything > less than the finest ale! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 25 20:25:49 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:25:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... References: <001701c698aa$5b67cf30$0201a8c0@robscomputer> <919929248bbf69147b0a40059b9b4000@chartertn.net> Message-ID: <001d01c698d0$38eaf6a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> "And eat grubs and pretend they are Snickers." I know that quote as well. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Culp" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... >I believe the proper terminology for such an invitation, Mike, would >include the words: > > "I'd drink muddy water, > And sleep in a hollow log." > > John Culp > Bristol, Tennessee, USA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frazer.ben at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 21:26:15 2006 From: frazer.ben at gmail.com (Ben Frazer) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:26:15 +0800 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060625222023.01adac20@mail.alltel.net> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> <1135.65.6.253.248.1151246789.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> <6.1.2.0.0.20060625222023.01adac20@mail.alltel.net> Message-ID: <6f6bb9400606252126j7e191707w7caf6aa43fbb2157@mail.gmail.com> Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some pics of the stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later this year. I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin ma). Glad you had a good one. Ben ------=_Part_40155_1249492.1151295975252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some pics of the stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later this year.

I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin ma).

Glad you had a good one.

Ben

From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 25 21:36:23 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:36:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <6f6bb9400606252126j7e191707w7caf6aa43fbb2157@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: G'day Ben, i hope to have it and the 3hp W type stover done before Wedderburn, then i will take the YB and the other two to put on a stover display,Your mother bahaved herself very well, just the usual dancing,you know how it is,c'ya Dave ps will send a pic to you soon. >From: "Ben Frazer" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:26:15 +0800 > >Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some pics of the >stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later this year. > >I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin ma). > >Glad you had a good one. >Ben > >------=_Part_40155_1249492.1151295975252 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >

Sounds like you had a good one Nicco, I hope you can send some >pics of the stover soon. I hope to see it running when i'm home later >this year.
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I hope my mother didn't embarass everyone too much! (just kiddin >ma).
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Glad you had a good one.
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Ben

>_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Research and compare new cars side by side at carpoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F833884&_t=54321&_r=hotmail_endtext&_m=EXT From rskinner at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 25 22:42:07 2006 From: rskinner at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:42:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun with thegals..... In-Reply-To: <001801c698d0$0ea52000$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <000c01c698e3$444a0e60$0201a8c0@robscomputer> > we will use swords!!!! Are you NUTS man? I'm content to just sit here in my chair and hurl pointed jabs in your direction. Rob From ozhornsby at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 01:28:44 2006 From: ozhornsby at yahoo.com (Kerry Morris) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> G'Day Russell mate! What a great night, that was one I will never forget, and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it up and the freedom of information has now past see. http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well done Kerry Lithgow NSW OZ --- Russell Gilbert wrote: > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > 9.30pm and then the girls > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > probably wondering if we had > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > with nice company. I > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From page at velocitynet.com.au Mon Jun 26 02:43:23 2006 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:43:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k References: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014a01c69904$f774be60$fd2ffea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Oh My! Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Morris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k > G'Day Russell mate! > > What a great night, that was one I will never forget, > and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it > up and the freedom of information has now past see. > http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > > I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well > done > > Kerry > Lithgow NSW OZ > > --- Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > > 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > > probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > > with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > > time. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 26 03:08:57 2006 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:08:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: G'day Kerry, something tells me i am glad we didn't get to the pancake stage when i was up at Russells!!!!!!!! cheers Dave >From: Kerry Morris >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:28:44 -0700 (PDT) > >G'Day Russell mate! > >What a great night, that was one I will never forget, >and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it >up and the freedom of information has now past see. >http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > >I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well >done > >Kerry >Lithgow NSW OZ > >--- Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > > 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > > probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > > with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > > time. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Meet Sexy Singles today @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D22740&_t=751140432&_r=emailtagline_meetsexy_june&_m=EXT From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jun 26 03:28:36 2006 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:28:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthegals..... References: <000c01c698e3$444a0e60$0201a8c0@robscomputer> Message-ID: <001601c6990b$48e70ef0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Thank goodness, I was afraid I was going to have to get out of my chair!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:42 AM Subject: RE: [SEL] Rex's New Baker Monitor on Webshots/now havin' fun withthegals..... >> we will use swords!!!! > > Are you NUTS man? > I'm content to just sit here in my chair > and hurl pointed jabs in your direction. > > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 04:02:31 2006 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost, Kersey, PA) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] House on the Rock, on topic In-Reply-To: <410-2200661262366937@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060626110231.88350.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yep , Been there. I find it a fantastic place. Considering that it all started when a guy built a house for his bride around, beside and on top of a big rock in the woods. The way many of the displays are arranged and set up are very unique.Well worth the trip. Ron Tim Christoff wrote: Did the family vacation thing (will be a few years before I attempt that again) this past week with one of our stops being the House on the Rock in Dodgeville WI. I've heard about the place for some years now and decided that we would go and see it. Was about 4 1/2 hours into the tour of it when I discovered some really BIG engines hanging around. Seems that this guy who collected just about everything also collected some good sized compound double acting engines, all direct connect to dyno's. The worst part of it was that they were hard to see through all the other stuff there and it looked as though someone had taken a disc sander and just went all over them to clean off the rust and that's the way they were left. Seen lots of traction engines there as well, some of them were even sitting about 15 feet off of the floor on brackets coming off the walls. Any one else been there and seen these engines? Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Ron Frost Kersey, PA http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4070123&a=30427007&f=0 http://community.webshots.com/user/ron15846 " Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise " --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus there?s much more to come. --0-1345646929-1151319751=:87950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Yep , Been there. I find it a fantastic place. Considering that it all started when a guy built a house for his bride around, beside and on top of a big rock in the woods. The way many of the displays are arranged and set up are very unique.Well worth the trip.

Ron
Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net> wrote:

Did the family vacation thing (will be a few years before I attempt that
again) this past week with one of our stops being the House on the Rock in
Dodgeville WI. I've heard about the place for some years now and decided
that we would go and see it. Was about 4 1/2 hours into the tour of it
when I discovered some really BIG engines hanging around. Seems that this
guy who collected just about everything also collected some good sized
compound double acting engines, all direct connect to dyno's. The worst
part of it was that they were hard to see through all the other stuff there
and it looked as though someone had taken a disc sander and just went all
over them to clean off the rust and that's the way they were left. Seen
lots of traction engines there as well, some of them were even sitting
about 15 feet off of the floor on brackets coming off the walls. Any one
else been there and seen these engines?

Tim Christoff
Basehor Kansas

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Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus there?s much more to come. From oldironnut at alltel.net Mon Jun 26 04:47:24 2006 From: oldironnut at alltel.net (Mike Tucker) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:47:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Good Engine Times In-Reply-To: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> References: <001701c69862$96b159a0$536b4b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Howdy all, It's been a good couple of weeks in the engine shed so I thought hat I would give you an update. When we were trying to get he Famous ready for the SIAM show we made a big push to get the water pump mounted and all of the plumbing done. Unfortunately, the water pump that I had for it was a centrifugal/vane type pump and coming from the pulley on the crankshaft to the pulley on the pump only gave about a 2-1/2 fold increase in rpm's and that just wasn't enough to pump water. Fortunately the SEL came through and Tommy Turner brought me an original type gear pump to SIAM. Last week, before we took Lincoln to Texas for his annual visit with his grandmother and cousin, Lincoln tackled rebuilding the water pump while I was at work. He got it unstuck with a strap wrench and then used the gear puller to pull the v-belt pulley from the gear pump and the flat pulley from our vane pump. Then he pulled the pump apart, cleaned it, resealed it and got the packing nut ready to be re-packed. The first I even knew that he was working on it was when he called all excited to tell me that the flat belt pulley from the vane pump would fit on the shaft of the gear pump. When I got home he told me how he did everything and the order in which he did it and all that was left for me to say was GREAT JOB! So we re-packed the nut and heated the flat belt pulley and put it on the shaft. This weekend I got the pump mounted, belted and plumbed and we now have a water cooled Famous! It's pumping enough water now that until I get the saw rig finished and belted the engine never will warm up :-). See ya', Mike -- _____________________ Mike Tucker Midway, Kentucky, USA _____________________ From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Jun 26 05:03:22 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:03:22 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k In-Reply-To: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060624145017.00bdd048@mail.ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060626215632.025aba90@mail.ncable.com.au> Well G'day MATE! I must say Kerry you have done well to keep it all this time. I bet you have been busting to let all the world to see just what they are missing from good Ol Aussie hospitality. I still have a laugh about that night every now and again. I often wonder how Missy is doing with her Australian grammar lessons. :-) I had a few hard decisions to make when letting a few engine go to help fund the new ones but I'm more than pleased now these are home. Kerry by the way the Wentworth Junction Rally is about this time next year. I will give you more details soon. Russell At 01:28 AM 26/06/2006 -0700, you wrote: >G'Day Russell mate! > >What a great night, that was one I will never forget, >and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it >up and the freedom of information has now past see. >http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > >I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well >done > >Kerry >Lithgow NSW OZ > >--- Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by > > 9.30pm and then the girls > > started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are > > probably wondering if we had > > pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines > > with nice company. I > > can't see me having a spider problem for quite some > > time. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From ponchie at ozemail.com.au Mon Jun 26 05:07:38 2006 From: ponchie at ozemail.com.au (Cam grundy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:07:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k References: <20060626082844.14349.qmail@web35406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003501c69919$1ee90e60$0401a8c0@your4105e587b6> I think a little under done Kerry. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Morris" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] stover 1 1/2hp k > G'Day Russell mate! > > What a great night, that was one I will never forget, > and I have not forgot the photo and as you brought it > up and the freedom of information has now past see. > http://members.optusnet.com.au/kerrymorris_49/Webpages/Temporary3.html > > I seen the photos of the new engines a while ago, well > done > > Kerry > Lithgow NSW OZ > > --- Russell Gilbert wrote: > >> I recon. us guys had finished playing engines by >> 9.30pm and then the girls >> started up the juke box! Curt and Kerry are >> probably wondering if we had >> pancakes this time around; Nope; just a few wines >> with nice company. I >> can't see me having a spider problem for quite some >> time. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jun 26 08:11:33 2006 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:11:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Aermotor In-Reply-To: <005101c697c6$52cfd9b0$6401a8c0@Shop> Message-ID: I'd like to know also if anyone has a list. Thanks, Steve >From: "Dave Ernst" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Subject: [SEL] Aermotor >Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:42:27 -0700 > >Is there any serial number list out there concerning these fluted hopper >engines? >Thanks >Dave > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nick at holden1.net Mon Jun 26 08:34:41 2006 From: nick at holden1.net (Nick Holden) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:34:41 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: [SEL] Astle Park 2006 Message-ID: <449FFE91.000003.03520@YOUR-447023AE6B> Just back from a very good weekend rally The weather was good and some very nice engines Photos on webshots Nick Nick Banbury (UK) http://community.webshots.com/user/nickholden From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon Jun 26 08:16:13 2006 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:16:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. - Cole Drill Parts Availability? Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20060626080601.03056ec0@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com> Hi...... I was asked if I knew of a parts source for the Cole Drill and/or Vise. Most likely as a result of: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/colevise/ on my web site. He is not on the list so please him directly. Address is in message below. >CAN PARTS STILL BE PURCHASED FOR THE COLE DRILL AND VISE?? > >Stan Lanphear >Hill-Martin Corp. >802-476-1000 >802-476-1001 FAX >slanphear at hill-martin.com Regards, Larry Evans Arcadia, Southern California, USA MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From MaytagTwin at aol.com Mon Jun 26 12:11:28 2006 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:11:28 EDT Subject: [SEL] Good Engine Times Message-ID: <2fc.7534744.31d18b60@aol.com> Hi Mike, Good story. Thanks. Lincoln, you can come pack pumps and work on engines here at Poverty Ridge anytime. Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, Missouri In a message dated 6/26/2006 6:56:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, oldironnut at alltel.net writes: When I got home he told me how he did everything and the order in which he did it and all that was left for me to say was GREAT JOB! So we re-packed the nut and heated the flat belt pulley and put it on the shaft. -------------------------------1151349088 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Clearmont, Missouri

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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Jun 26 22:40:34 2006 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:40:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping Message-ID: <02e201c699ad$23899950$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? I would be grateful if they could email me off list. Thanks. Reg. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From rex002 at centurytel.net Tue Jun 27 17:16:36 2006 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:16:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rex's Baker monitor now has a Baker Pump Oh Yea ! Message-ID: <000d01c69a48$1f5c18d0$6400a8c0@home> Howdy all ; Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it up and mount it and get it pumping water . Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! Rex Hinz From oldengin at verizon.net Tue Jun 27 13:29:54 2006 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:29:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping References: <02e201c699ad$23899950$0401a8c0@reg6db4351094b> Message-ID: <000c01c69a28$74e2d570$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> > Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? > I would be grateful if they could email me off list. I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 28 01:28:28 2006 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:28:28 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Standard Seperator Engines Message-ID: <000f01c69a8c$d64c4760$3ac10b52@no1> A friend has asked me to try and find out more about these engines. I think that he is thinking of buying one & wants to know about the age of them. He thinks the cooling fan pattern is pertinent to this but would like to know more. Can anyone help please. Dave Croft Warrington http://oldengine.org/members/croft/homepage http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From pjp at steamengine.com.au Wed Jun 28 03:52:49 2006 From: pjp at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:52:49 +1000 Subject: [SEL] [Fwd: Re: Wanted Hercules motor DOOC 4 cyl diesel] - can anyone help Rod? Message-ID: <44A25F81.1050503@steamengine.com.au> -------- Original Message -------- From: rod&sharon Subject: Re: Wanted Hercules motor Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:32:06 +1000 Would appreciate that if you could it might turn something Cheers Rod ---- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Pavlinovich" To: "rod&sharon" Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Wanted Hercules motor > hi Rod, > Sorry mate, I don't have anything. I can pass your request onto an engine > mailing list if you're interested. > > Regards > Paul > > rod&sharon wrote: >> Hi I am looking for a Hercues DOOC 4 cyl diesel complete or parts, any >> info would be appreciated >> Cheers Rod > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/372 - Release Date: 6/21/2006 > > -- pjp at steamengine.com.au Emerald, Victoria, Australia www.steamengine.com.au From oldengineman at hotmail.com Wed Jun 28 07:09:42 2006 From: oldengineman at hotmail.com (Peter Stauffer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:09:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping In-Reply-To: <000c01c69a28$74e2d570$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Message-ID: Hi Leroy, I am planning to be at Portland again this year, and would like a camping spot for my truck. Looking forward to seeing you all, soon. Pete Stauffer Hidden away amongst the hills and hollers of southern West Virginia, USA >From: "Leroy" >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >To: "The SEL email discussion list" , > "oldengine list" >Subject: [SEL] Portland camping >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:29:54 -0400 > > > > >>Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? >>I would be grateful if they could email me off list. > > >I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space for >campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) has >one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", Brice >(Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space or >if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheelin at hotmail.com Wed Jun 28 07:44:27 2006 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:44:27 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Leroy, I will be tenting it again. Won't need much space for that. If you save the same spot again then there is always room for tents behind the campers right next to the river. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ================= >>From: "Leroy" >> >> >>I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space >>for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) >>has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", >>Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >>done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >>ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space >>or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark >> From curt at imc-group.com Wed Jun 28 12:55:27 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:55:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Leroy's flywheel pattern. Message-ID: <44A2DEAF.3060903@imc-group.com> Put up 5 new pictures of the flywheel pattern work for Leroy. At the bottom of the page at the 6/28/06 update. Hope you enjoy. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC From oldengin at verizon.net Wed Jun 28 14:06:57 2006 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:06:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping References: Message-ID: <002801c69af6$ceaaa500$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Done, it will be good to see you again this year. Leroy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Stauffer" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland camping > Hi Leroy, > > I am planning to be at Portland again this year, and would like a camping > spot for my truck. > Looking forward to seeing you all, soon. > > Pete Stauffer > Hidden away amongst the hills and hollers of southern West Virginia, USA > > >>From: "Leroy" >>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" , >>"oldengine list" >>Subject: [SEL] Portland camping >>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:29:54 -0400 >> >> >> >> >>>Does anyone know who is saving the ATIS camping area this year please? >>>I would be grateful if they could email me off list. >> >> >>I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space >>for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) >>has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", >>Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >>done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >>ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space >>or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 > > From oldengin at verizon.net Wed Jun 28 14:07:27 2006 From: oldengin at verizon.net (Leroy) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:07:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping References: Message-ID: <002901c69af6$dd1549b0$2f01a8c0@your4f1261a8e5> Done, Your spot has been saved.... Leroy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [SEL] Portland camping > Leroy, > > I will be tenting it again. Won't need much space for that. If you save > the same spot again then there is always room for tents behind the campers > right next to the river. > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > ================= > >>>From: "Leroy" >>> >>> >>>I got this today and yes maybe it is time to start reserving some space >>>for campers in Portland. I have one , my friend Paul has one, Tom (Ball) >>>has one "does this mean Reg is going to be in the low rent area again?", >>>Brice (Adams) has one, Bob (Matthews) has just ask for a spot and it is >>>done....... Anyone else? Also I have been tossing around some other >>>ideas, more later. Contact me or write the list if you need camper space >>>or if I did not include you on this short list. Leroy Clark >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 > > From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:54:24 2006 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Rex's Baker monitor now has a Baker Pump Oh Yea ! In-Reply-To: <000d01c69a48$1f5c18d0$6400a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20060629025424.24966.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rex, Your engine should be painted red. It is tough to find a Little Monitor that should be painted red, but you did it. You need the ball muffler (not the later bell muffler) and there was never a guard over the gears or a tin disc on the end of the crankshaft. Both of those safety items came later. Also, anyone who tells you the tin disc is a water hopper lid is full of crap. You got that engine from Orvie Schraeder, didnja? Good job, he usually won't sell. Joe --- Rex Hinz wrote: > Howdy all ; > > Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my > baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother > Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , > well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 > and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but > I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I > still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it > up and mount it and get it pumping water . > Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the > pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! > > Rex Hinz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jun 29 03:45:21 2006 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:45:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Looking for John Palmer in the UK In-Reply-To: <449FFE91.000003.03520@YOUR-447023AE6B> References: <449FFE91.000003.03520@YOUR-447023AE6B> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060629204126.0219a388@ncable.com.au> >G'day to our fine English folk! ............... :-) Would any of you guys know of a Mr John Palmer? He often has classifieds in the SEM but my past mags only shows his phone number. Would anyone know if he an e-mail address? Any help would be great. regards Russell Russell Gilbert Sunny Sunraysia russell at ncable.com.au http://community.webshots.com/user/russellsrelics From curt at imc-group.com Thu Jun 29 07:44:35 2006 From: curt at imc-group.com (Curt) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:44:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rex's Baker monitor now has a Baker Pump Oh Yea ! In-Reply-To: <20060629025424.24966.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060629025424.24966.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44A3E753.8070301@imc-group.com> Joe, Please tell us more about red pear hoppered Baker Monitors! Any ball hoppered Monitors I've seen in red and so far any pear hoppered Monitors I've only seen in grey. I just called sleepy teen Devin and went thru the s/n list with him asking him to look for any clues about when there was a color change on the pear hoppered engines. He didn't find a note about it. Have you narrowed down a year or s/n at which there was a color change? Interesting about the tin on the end of the crankshaft. Ours is afixed to the flywheel and that is where it has stayed since the restoration. But what you say makes perfect sense now that I think about it. If one was to use it as a hopper cover, the condensation would run along the inside and drip on the _outside_ of the hopper. The condensate would not run back in the hopper. Pretty keen sleuthing there Joe! Curt Holland Gastonia, NC Joe Prindle wrote: >Rex, >Your engine should be painted red. It is tough to find a Little Monitor >that should be painted red, but you did it. You need the ball muffler (not >the later bell muffler) and there was never a guard over the gears or a >tin disc on the end of the crankshaft. Both of those safety items came >later. Also, anyone who tells you the tin disc is a water hopper lid is >full of crap. >You got that engine from Orvie Schraeder, didnja? Good job, he usually >won't sell. >Joe > >--- Rex Hinz wrote: > > > >>Howdy all ; >> >> Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my >>baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother >>Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , >>well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 >>and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but >>I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I >>still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it >>up and mount it and get it pumping water . >> Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the >>pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! >> >>Rex Hinz >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > > >Joe Prindle >Baraboo, WI USA > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > --------------050900040705080207020502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe,
Please tell us more about red pear hoppered Baker Monitors! Any ball hoppered Monitors I've seen in red and so far any pear hoppered Monitors I've only seen in grey. I just called sleepy teen Devin and went thru the s/n list with him asking him to look for any clues about when there was a color change on the pear hoppered engines. He didn't find a note about it.
Have you narrowed down a year or s/n at which there was a color change?

Interesting about the tin on the end of the crankshaft. Ours is afixed to the flywheel and that is where it has stayed since the restoration. But what you say makes perfect sense now that I think about it. If one was to use it as a hopper cover, the condensation would run along the inside and drip on the outside of the hopper. The condensate would not run back in the hopper. Pretty keen sleuthing there Joe!

Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Joe Prindle wrote:

Rex, Your engine should be painted red. It is tough to find a Little Monitor that should be painted red, but you did it. You need the ball muffler (not the later bell muffler) and there was never a guard over the gears or a tin disc on the end of the crankshaft. Both of those safety items came later. Also, anyone who tells you the tin disc is a water hopper lid is full of crap. You got that engine from Orvie Schraeder, didnja? Good job, he usually won't sell. Joe --- Rex Hinz <rex002 at centurytel.net> wrote:

Howdy all ; Today was a great day , I found a Baker windmill Water pump for my baker , It was almost in my back yard it belonged to my oldest Brother Tom some 4 miles from my house , He was asking way too much for it $30 , well I told him they are going for $20 on Ebay and I would give him $10 and he went away happy ???? Just kidding , he really only wanted $30 but I traded him a 2 HP Cushman (the orange Farm Master) even up and I still feel guilty But Hey its only My Brother , anyway nowt to clean it up and mount it and get it pumping water . Any one know the right colors for a 1915 baker ? and what about the pump color ,can anyone Help Me ? Please ! Rex Hinz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 30 02:49:31 2006 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:49:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Great people on this list. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060630104209.00b10dd0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, I'd like to share an experience with you all. I've always said that these engine lists have some of the greatest guys as members - well Reg Ingold must be right there at the top of this list. I'm busy restoring a 1928 Wolseley Type R as many of you know. About a month ago I posted en enquiry to the lists about the damaged magneto gear. Reg mailed me and offered to make one up for me if I gave him the sizes etc. Well I eventually managed to do the drawings yesterday and mailed them to Reg at about 7:30 pm (South African time) last night. This morning at 7:20 am I logged on to get my mail expecting something from Reg - possibly asking for a bit more info or suchlike - maybe a missing size. Imagine my amazement when Reg's mail included pics of him making the gear as well as a pic of the completed gear. Not only that but he had already posted it and it was on it's way to me in S.A. All this and his mail was sent within 8 hours of my original mail. Well done and thanks a million Reg - you're a great friend. I just wish Bromps had given you this kind of service. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Tel. (016) 365-5787 Visit our website for old engines in South Africa. www.oldengine.org/members/evans --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From oiseming at moscow.com Fri Jun 30 11:23:02 2006 From: oiseming at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:23:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Headed for Buhl, Idaho Message-ID: <200606301823.k5UINFFu090929@mail-gw.fsr.net> I'm headed out the door for the EDGE&TA Northwest Regional show at Buhl, Idaho. Here's hoping I'll get to meet some of you, there. Harry Matthews has already arrived; I'll be looking forward to meeting him. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/index.htm So many projects. So little time.