[SEL] Member's Sites on Oldengine.org - IMPORTANT

Dave Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net
Sat Feb 18 17:24:08 PST 2006


Hi Peter,
         I may not have made myself clear. Let me try again. Are you now 
saying that you were wrong with your warning and that there is nothing to 
worry about? To answer this you need ONLY reply "Yes" or "No." Thanks!
         Dave

At 06:11 PM 2/18/2006, you wrote:
>On 2/18/06, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at alltel.net> wrote:
> >
> > >It looks as though either the Oldengine server has had a hiccup, or
> > >someone else has got something horribly wrong and it has somehow
> > >changed everyone else's folders in the subsequent meltdown.
> > >
> > >Peter
> >
> > HI Peter, Are you now saying that you were wrong with your warning and
> > there is nothing to worry about?
> >          Dave
> > PS, What EXACTLY is a "subsequent meltdown" in this context?
> >
>
>Dave:
>
>A detailed reply for you:
>
>When I first found the additional folders I assumed that this was
>something on my own website only, but as soon as I started to see that
>it was a wider issue, I sent out the warning so that others would be
>aware and make any necessary backups that might be prudent.
>
>Over the course of the evening it seems from feedback we are getting
>that the folders are not in themselves a problem, but how they got
>there might be. I don't have any feedback from the technician that
>looks after the Oldengine site yet, and until I do I am working on the
>basis that any reasonable precautions are worth taking. I believe that
>Jim Dunmyer may be away for the weekend, so have contacted Greg
>(techie) directly.
>
>Frontpage is a well-known Microsoft product that folks use for writing
>webpages, but these additional folders are present in sites (like
>mine) where Frontpage has never been used, so there is a security
>issue firstly and a cleanup issue secondly. The duplication of
>existing files will also suddenly double the size of the hosted sites,
>which shouldn't be a problem, but again I don't KNOW that.
>
>I have now deleted all the additional folders and the duplicate files
>contained therein on our own site, and as far as I can see there are
>no operational problems with our site.
>
>As the individual folders for ALL the Oldengine members are affected,
>we must assume that there has been a fault or a problem with the
>server than has caused this, and I will advise what Greg says when he
>gets in touch. The fact that the problem is right across the server
>raises a security issue as well, which is why I raised the alarm
>originally, had it just been our own site that was affected I would
>not have shouted.
>
>The 'meltdown' aspect is what COULD happen should the server be
>seriously compromised by a virus or worm and we all lose our sites. I
>don't think this is likely, but at the same time I am not prepared to
>take chances with my own or other people's sites.
>
>Peter
>--
>Peter A Forbes
>Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
>Web: www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
>
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