[SEL] Diesel Engine Starter With Oil Pump

[Richard Strobel]

Howard..that's basically how he does it with his newer Cat12 in the cooler 
weather..no pony.  Cranks for 5-10 seconds and then preheats.  Works real 
good.

RickinMt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Bottles" <Howard.Bottles at austin.ppdi.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [SEL] Diesel Engine Starter With Oil Pump


> On my JD 730D I push down on the decomp pedal, crank the engine until
> the oil pressure comes up, then relase the decomp pedal and let it crank
> 3-4 revs on full comp w/o fuel to heat the cylinders, the put some
> throttle on it and she lights right off
>
> Howard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Strobel
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: [SEL] Diesel Engine Starter With Oil Pump
>
> Francis;
>   I remember the compression release lever was close to the pony
> motor..should have mentioned that is opened prior to cranking..believe
> it keeps the exhaust valves open.  It may have also shut the injectors
> down..never thought about it until now.  His was a '57..can't remember
> now how the engine was shut down..had to shut the fuel off somehow..on
> his newer grader one just pulls up hard on the foot throttle.
>
>
> It may have been an add-on but believe some turbo charged engines had an
> accumulator that would release oil to the turbo bearing after the engine
> was shut off.
>
>
> Well catcha later,
> RickinMt.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: <FRM8198 at aol.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Diesel Engine Starter With Oil Pump
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 10/27/2005 7:11:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes:
> >
> > On the  neighbors  old Cat12 grader with the pony engine..one starts
> up
> > the
> > pony first (the pony exhaust heats up the main intake manifold) then
> > engage
> > the pony, bend your neck around to see if the oil pressure is up  and
> then
> > release the compression release.  Me thinks it's just a good  idea to
> have
> > the pressure up.
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> > That is the way I remember starting the D4 on the ranch many years
> (50)
> > ago.
> >  However, the compression release mode is new to  me.  Does this
> > compression
> > release cycle come into play when the  throttle rack is closed?  All I
> > recollect is opening the throttle (fuel)  rack when the oil pressure
> was
> > up to start
> > the diesel.  Once the  diesel was started, the pony engine was shut
> down
> > by
> > turning its  fuel supply valve off as my Dad didn't like to leave
> gasoline
> > in
> > carburetor.  To shut down the diesel, all that had to be done was to
> close
> > the
> > throttle rack which had a locking pin.
> > There was a company in Oregon (1950's era) that sold a
> pre-pressurized
> > oil
> > system for automobiles.  I believe it had a spring  loaded accumulator
>
> > that was
> > hooked up to the engine oil system with a check  valve.  Thus,
> accumulator
> > could be pressurized with the engine oil and not  leak down.  In
> parallel
> > with
> > this check valve was an  electrical  solenoid operated valve.  This
> > solenoid
> > valve was activated when the  starter was energized and this action
> would
> > pressurize the engine's oil system  when starting the engine.  I don't
>
> > know what
> > happened to this company.
> >
> > Francis  Maciel
> > Santa Maria, CA
> >
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