[SEL] WaHooo/ now buzz saw safety.

Wed Oct 5 16:29:30 PDT 2005

Sure appears to be runnin' true when up to speed.  I'll know more when I put 
some 2x's thru it and then measure the set against the kerf.

  Curt, let's say on a scale of 1-10, pertaining to ease of starting.  If 1 
was unbelted, what would you rate your's when belted up.??...I would swag 
mine at about 7.  Whew, but I got her to go and ran it for over an 
hour..belted up.  She came up to a good steam.

TIA
Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] WaHooo/ now buzz saw safety.

> Yes Rick, side to side wobble. As I mentioned early on I saw my blade
> wobble when at speed. It was better than an inch each side of center. It
> wiggled around like a like a spinning pizza crust. Even cold it tended
> to do this. The hammering by an expert took care of the problem.
> Sandblasting will likely compound the problem as now the entire blade is
> in compression.
> Curt
>
> Richard Strobel wrote:
>
> >Curt, are you talking about side to side wobble?  Surely the diameter 
> >won't
> >change.
> >
> >  It's got a pretty good set in the teeth. and notice no wobble, plus I'm
> >making it a habit to feel for warmth anywhere on the blade...after
> >sandblasting the whole blade...so far, so good.
> >
> >  I'm considering your suggestion on the use of gloves.
> >
> >  I'm gonna grab the camera and get a better pix of that blade clearance.
> >
> >"headed fer the shed"
> >Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
> >To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: [SEL] WaHooo/ now buzz saw safety.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Rick,
> >>You mention the 3/8" clearance and that raises a red flag for me having
> >>used my saw rigs heavily for several years now.
> >>
> >>In the beginning I was using a blade that was dull, that had
> >>insufficient set to the teeth, and that was not hammered properly. The
> >>combination resulted in a blade that got warm in use and got floppy.
> >>Damned scary floppy and it would wobble around much more that the 3/8"
> >>you have to work with. I can't stress the importance of getting the
> >>teeth sharp, setting the tooth set properly, and getting the blade
> >>hammered properly to eliminate wobble.
> >>
> >>In addition, for your safety I would add a block of oak to that girder,
> >>so that if the blade ever gets wobbly, the blade base (just inside of
> >>the tooth area) will bear up against the wood. If not, the teeth can get
> >>into the steel girder. If the teeth get into the girder and you are
> >>lucky you will just wipe out the teeth. If you are having a bad hair
> >>day, a tooth could catch hard and the arbor bearing cap might break and
> >>the whole shaft and blade will come up and at you. That would make for a
> >>miserable day. You wouldn't believe the number of saw rigs I've seen
> >>with broken bearing caps. Also if you'll look most saw tables you'll see
> >>evidence of major crashes of teeth with the table.
> >>
> >>Even with a well maintained blade it is too easy to bump the blade to
> >>the side as your are cutting. As you pull the table back and slide the
> >>log to the side, a good whack with a heavy log will easily flex the
> >>blade a long way. Please consider adding the block of wood for your
> >>safety.
> >>
> >>And while on the subject of safety, I wanted to comment on the use of
> >>gloves mentioned a few days ago. I do NOT use gloves when I operate my
> >>buzz saws! With these course toothed blades a caught glove would not rip
> >>but would yank your hand right into the blade. It would be much better
> >>to be cut that to be yanked into the blade. To see my point take the
> >>belt off your saw rig and spin the blade by hand. Dangle a glove by one
> >>of its' fingers and move it into the blade. It is an enlightening
> >>exercise. My experiment was much less civilized but none-the-less I was
> >>forever convinced that using gloves was NOT safe with buzz saws.
> >>Curt Holland
> >>Gastonia, NC
> >>Cotton Ginning Days Oct 14, 15, and 16th
> >>
> >>
> >>Richard Strobel wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I see now what you're talking about, sorry, must the the weather or ?
> >>><vbg>.
> >>>No Dave that was just a photo fluke that I can't explain.  The axle 
> >>>(and
> >>>girder above it), are not in two sections.
> >>>
> >>> I'll get another shot from the quartering right so you can see where
> >>>the
> >>>blade misses the girder by at least 3/8".
> >>>
> >>> We're thinking it's some kind of reflection, depth of field fluke, or
> >>>???
> >>>
> >>>later,
> >>>Rick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
> >>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:48 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [SEL] WaHooo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Rick, I thought I had just drawn the girder? underneath the blade
> >>>>attached to the axle.
> >>>>Dave Croft
> >>>>Warrington
> >>>>England
> >>>>http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> >>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:41 PM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] WaHooo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Dave..there is no table to the right of the blade i.e. Outboard of 
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>blade
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rick
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>>From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
> >>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:28 AM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] WaHooo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>>>From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> >>>>>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
> >>>>>><sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:01 PM
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [SEL] WaHooo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Tom, I doubt if I'll ever know what happened there..not a double
> >>>>>>>exposure as
> >>>>>>>I checked my camera and it's on auto.  I got down and looked up at
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>same
> >>>>>>>angle yesterday and there is quite a reflection in that part of the
> >>>>>>>blade.
> >>>>>>>Dunno, but it's kewl
> >>>>>>>Take Care, Rick
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi Rick, am I guessing right about how it is set up?
> >>>>>>See http://community.webshots.com/photo/130641573/468212176HbJvkY
> >>>>>>Dave Croft
> >>>>>>Warrington
> >>>>>>England
> >>>>>>http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
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