[SEL] Dogs on show grounds (OT?)now fences...again.

Thu Mar 24 00:24:23 PST 2005

R.E. Dogs, I love dogs, but the last swap meet I was at 2 weeks ago smelled 
like dog crap something awful. It was really bad over near the coffee and 
snacks, We would like to believe people will do the right thing, but often 
they do not, Step in it and its the gift that keeps on giving all the way 
home. Im not looking down for you dog mines. so clean the dam things up. Or 
before you know it they will be banned. This is your heads up!. (or down as 
needed) Please note all dogs eat, the means all dogs P*** Just dont make it 
a poor experience for the rest of us. Remember you dog loves you, but would 
bite the hell out of us if he thought it was called for. right or wrong.
Nobody would be happy with the end result.  I also bet half of you do not 
have insurance to cover dog events.
and Im not talking about dog mines. Make it nice for the rest of us also.

Roger DiRuscio, Broker Associate, The Realty Experts
Sales since 1977, 510-797-4000 ofc
Collector of antique engines
Fremont,Ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock Summerfield" <brock at netspeed.com.au>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Dogs on show grounds (OT?)now fences...again.

> the security gaurd at the sydney rally seen all sides .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cam grundy" <ponchie at ozemail.com.au>
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> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:21 PM
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>> I've never seen that side of you Brock
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brock Summerfield" <brock at netspeed.com.au>
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>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:41 PM
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>>
>>> nah not me  i,m an angel  some times
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "edd payne" <edsingns at winsoft.net.au>
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>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Dogs on show grounds (OT?)now fences...again.
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>>>
>>>> Hay Curt,They are all true!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>> EDD PAYNE
>>>> PO BOX 364 GULGONG
>>>> New South Wales  AUSTRALIA 2852
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>>>> edsingns at winsoft.net.au
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
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>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:12
>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Dogs on show grounds (OT?)now fences...again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brock,
>>>>> I was so focused on taking engine and steamer pictures I failed to 
>>>>> take
>>>>> a picture of the entire grounds. I'd like one if someone did.
>>>>> Curt
>>>>> P.S. Heard LOTS of wild stories about you at Narracoorte! ....Happy
>>>>> Birthday!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brock Summerfield wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > G,day  Curt
>>>>> >
>>>>> > i hope you took a pic of the fence also about fence  i work in the
>>>>> > constuction industry mainly working on roads
>>>>> > and we dont have to have a fence around  us when were working we ia
>>>>> > bigger version of a withes hat
>>>>> > we have never had a prob and were  work in the traffic
>>>>> > PS  one of the guys at work brings his dog to work some times ?
>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
>>>>> > To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
>>>>> > <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:02 AM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Dogs on show grounds (OT?)now fences...again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Barry,
>>>>> >> In years past you have espoused a LOT about fences and such all
>>>>> >> claiming it was the law. Did not get the chance to meet you at the
>>>>> >> Naracoorte ralley to discuss insurance and fences with you, but 
>>>>> >> there
>>>>> >> was a rumor floating around the National this year that the fences
>>>>> >> were NOT the law. Apparently there was considerable backlash 
>>>>> >> against
>>>>> >> the folks manning the insurance tent and that during some meeting 
>>>>> >> one
>>>>> >> of the insurance reps stood up and stated that the fences were NOT 
>>>>> >> a
>>>>> >> requirement of the national insurance body, but rather that was a
>>>>> >> decision left to the local clubs managing the shows. With that 
>>>>> >> said,
>>>>> >> I have to question if there is really such a trivial law on the Oz
>>>>> >> book that bans unrestrained pets in public places. Hard to imagine
>>>>> >> legislators wasting their time on such trivial matters. Perhaps 
>>>>> >> local
>>>>> >> ordinances could dictate....but laws?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Since I have mentioned the fences, I'll comment on them and their
>>>>> >> impact on show attendees. Missy and I started off looking at 
>>>>> >> engines
>>>>> >> from outside of the compounds. The advantage the compounds have are
>>>>> >> to impose extremely well managed arrangement of engines. I'm 
>>>>> >> guessing
>>>>> >> the compounds were roughly 10 metres wide and several hundred 
>>>>> >> metres
>>>>> >> long. There was a removable fence section at each end. This
>>>>> >> arrangement made unloading and loading one's engines quite 
>>>>> >> difficult
>>>>> >> unless you simply relinquished the task to the crane operator who
>>>>> >> would set your engine over the fence edge. If you wanted to do it
>>>>> >> yourself you had to roll your display all the way down the length 
>>>>> >> of
>>>>> >> the compound since there were no intermediate openings in the
>>>>> >> compounds. Most displays were set with the more interesting side
>>>>> >> toward the fence.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> For the general public who knows little about the engines wandering
>>>>> >> down the aisles is likely sufficient. But for those fascinated with
>>>>> >> the workings of the engines being outside of the compounds was not
>>>>> >> going to do it. After the first row we hopped the fence so we could
>>>>> >> get a better look. Now we could walk all around the engines, study
>>>>> >> them, touch them, meet and shake hands with the owners, exchange
>>>>> >> business cards, take pictures without having to wait on spectators 
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> clear the area, read s/n's and other tag information, etc. From
>>>>> >> inside it felt just like an engine show in the US....except that we
>>>>> >> were in side shaft heaven!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Towards the end of Saturday I ripped the seat out of a brand new 
>>>>> >> pair
>>>>> >> of shorts crawling over the fences. I'd guess having my big white 
>>>>> >> bum
>>>>> >> showing in public was against the law too ;-)
>>>>> >> So I gotta say I incurred more risk and injury from the fences than
>>>>> >> from the thrashing, maiming, rotating machinery on display :-)
>>>>> >> Perhaps Missy or Nick would care to comment.....
>>>>> >> Curt Holland
>>>>> >> Gastonia, NC
>>>>> >> P.S. Pictures on the way....sorting thru 801 photos.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Barry Gorman wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Reg ,       I am Really sorry to hear this, But it is The Law ,
>>>>> >>> Our rally is due in two weeks , a lot of water has travelled
>>>>> >>> under the bridge since the last one so I hope you don't try to
>>>>> >>> throw the blame in the wrong direction ,
>>>>> >>> Regards ,
>>>>> >>>              Barry Gorman
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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