Thanks Paul and Peter I tried accessing their site but I got a "The Page Cannot Be Found" message. I no sooner sent the e-mail and then looked in the April GEM and found it. August 24th - 28th. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com ,-._,-. "Conceit is an odd disease: \/)"(\/ It makes everyone sick but the one who has it." (_o_) http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz