Now Kelley, lets be truthful. We have seen pictures of you far deeper in grease than Rob. Just who is being more tolerant? ! :-) Ref: http://engines.rustyiron.com/piston/index.html Last picture at the bottom of the page. Curt Holland Gastonia, NC Kelley Garcia wrote: >Now you all know what I'm up against... > >[sigh] > >