[SEL] [AT] Charity auction

[peter ogborne]

Thats something lightningrod ........glad you see my point
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From: "lightningrod" <guitronics at comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] [AT] Charity auction


> peter ogborne wrote:
>
> >''lightning rod''.........interesting slant on things that you have !So
> >charity really begins at home with you . I am sure that you are on your
own
> >with your bigoted comments and that your fellow country men would no
doubt
> >shudder at your crassness and insular attitude.
> >A point to think about ...the US is the strongest power in the world, do
you
> >really need help from lesser powers.But if you are inteligent enough to
> >perhaps inquire you will find that many countries helped and are still
> >helping your war on terror in Iraq. Countries like Portugal, Spain ,
> >Australia ,Japan ,UK, Italy ,many of the eastern block countries[ as you
are
> >no doubt a very blinkered person you may have to get out an atlas to see
> >where these countries are] .As a reminder my country supplied fire
fighters
> >for your fires in California.
> >Original Message -----
> >From: "lightningrod" <guitronics at comcast.net>
> >To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:18 AM
> >Subject: Re: [SEL] [AT] Charity auction
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>George Best wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I agree with John.
> >>>
> >>>While the tsunami damage is tremendous and has the attention of the
> >>>whole world, we shouldn't forget the groups that have received funds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>from us in the past. Some of the groups like the Tod engine project
> >>
> >>
> >>>don't have the benefit of countries trying to out do each other in
their
> >>>amount of giving.
> >>>
> >>>There aren't other organizations donating money to them and cutting
them
> >>>off doesn't seem right to me.
> >>>
> >>>We all have plenty of opportunities to donate to the various tsunami
> >>>relief organizations. Hijacking this years donations and redirecting
> >>>them to the tsunami aid isn't the only way to help.
> >>>
> >>>The charity auction has already suffered this year by lack of items
> >>>being listed and buyers. (I know I'm guilty this year, I've donated in
> >>>the past and have bought in the past but just couldn't get excited
about
> >>>it this year) Changing the recipient of the donations to a world cause,
> >>>is kind of getting away from what I thought the intent of the charity
> >>>auction was.
> >>>
> >>>George
> >>>Add me to the grouch list ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jfgrant
> >>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:48 AM
> >>>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group;
> >>>>sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>>>Subject: [SEL] [AT] Charity auction
> >>>>
> >>>>Spencer & List Members.
> >>>>At the risk of being labeled a "Grouch" I would say that we
> >>>>really need to think about Spencer's motion. Traditionally we
> >>>>have supported local needs and while I know there are
> >>>>tremendous needs resulting from the Tsunami, the needs in
> >>>>local areas have not gone away.
> >>>>I fear that many if not most of the local needs will be
> >>>>passed over or forgotten in light of the new need.
> >>>>We as a Nation are already contributing much $$$ which is
> >>>>fine and great but we as a small organization and other small
> >>>>groups are what fund many of the local needs and the
> >>>>Government does not fund these worthwhile small charities.
> >>>>Just My Thoughts. I will support what ever the group decides.
> >>>> Respectfully,  John Grant
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>My $0.02... Where was the world when 9/11 hit US? Dancing in the
> >>streets. No help.What about the Forest fires during the drought before
> >>2004? No help. How about the hurricanes in Florida this last year? No
> >>help. Floods in the south this year? No help.War on terror? A little
> >>help, but mostly a slap in the face. When did any other Country help the
> >>US? They must have, at some point.....No,they didn't help US, we went to
> >>war for THEM!
> >>
> >>Tsunami....yeah, a tragedy,a real disaster.OK, Japan kicked in 20 Mil,
> >>that was nice....How much is China giving? Who? What? ....and Russia?
> >>Faghettabottit.
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> OK,I'm a Bigot.Thanks for the firefighting help,I was making a general
> statement, not trying to get into a microcosm of the entire history of
> who helped who. IN GENERAL, the U.S.A. has done far more for other
> countries than was ever suggested. A natural disaster happens, the U.S.
> is expected to fix it, in fact; it is somehow our fault. I sure am happy
> I'm not as intelligent as you.
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