Jim - Might check out http://www.arrowengine.com/cseries.htm Tried that one ..... And found these ..... http://www.lister-petter.co.uk/products.php http://www.metroexporters.com/metex/ Any more, super sleuths? 8^) Jim (From The Wide Brown Land Down Under) marshallman at iprimus.com.au 8^) I try to comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable!