[SEL] OHS gone mad

[Tom Dunlap]

I dont know...Australia and west Texas are kinda similar....

Tom the Texan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R and E Freeman" <plb at iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] OHS gone mad


> Well who'd want to take over Texas anyway?
> Ray Freeman
> Perth WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Dunlap
> Sent: Friday, 23 December 2005 4:04 AM
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> Subject: Re: [SEL] OHS gone mad
>
> All i know is, in Texas, no occupying force would have a chance against 
> all
> of us heavily armed men. But in England and Australia, it would be easy.
> nuff said.
>
> Tom
> Texas
> USA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Adam Cottrill" <adamcottrill at bigpond.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Cc: <sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:55 PM
> Subject: [SEL] OHS gone mad
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>           I think Peter was refering more to the American judicial system
>> and the way in which in some ways responability of ones actions has been
>> removed by Governments, I'm the first to say Australia isnt immune and we
>> all have stories of how people successfully sued and won for seemingly
>> stupid amounts of money and won.
>>
>> That being said if people are genuine and have been injured I feel that
>> they deserve compensation for it and I wish them all the best in getting
>> it.
>>
>> Further those of you who still have the stigma attached to the brain that
>> it is law that every engine compound has to be fenced and we dont have
>> guns here I think you need to look a little closer.
>>
>> Ill explain...
>>
>> The fences around engine compounds, IS ONLY a "guideline" for the current
>> policy of which over 8000 members of the National Historical Machinery
>> Assocition are a member of.
>>
>> Point 1. No one is forcing anyone to be a member, and if you wanted to 
>> run
>
>> a show in your back yard or any where and not be a member of the
>> association thats fine no one will stop you.
>>
>> Point 2. As mentioned above this ruling is only a guideline to protect 
>> the
>
>> insurance policy of the association that is getting close to $100,000 per
>> year for coverage and for $13 a member for full coverage I think its a
>> good wicket.
>>
>> The association would like you to follow the guide line and when your 
>> club
>
>> signs up it is taken you will. However if you dont choose to follow it
>> (and this is your right) and something happens ie an accident the policy
>> will still pay out as itis broadform. The remifications beyond this is
>> that the total policy could be withdrawn, the price goes up of the policy
>> or the member club will be asked to leave the assoc.
>>
>> The association has done this (and as many companys now do) by placing
>> guidelines in or in more complex terms a risk management policy you can
>> effectively reduce the cost of your premium by reducing the upfront risk.
>>
>> And I know personally this is what Smorgans have done as one of the
>> companys I now work for carts scrap into Smorgans almost on a daily 
>> basis,
>
>> to them a 40% reduction in insurance premiums its worth someone looking
>> like a total tool in a red jacket.
>>
>> And finally guns, my family has been a hunting family for well since they
>> arrived here in the boat in 1788. My Mother was a state archery champion
>> and because of me (she was pregnaut at the time with me) missed olympic
>> final selection. My father has missed only 1 duck shooting season in 55
>> years and my family has a swag of state and national clay trap shooters 
>> to
>
>> be proud of and have our own personal clay trap and a line of goldern
>> retreivers that are well know for there ability.
>>
>> My grandfather said to me when he taught me to shoot, "Adam if you miss 
>> on
>
>> the second shot it deserves to live!" yes I am a gun owner and I have his
>> remington left handed side be side.
>>
>> But what I cant understand is why in the state of Texas I would need to
>> own an anti tank gun? or and M16 full auto can someone please explain 
>> this
>
>> to me?
>>
>> Best wishes for the festive season,
>>                                                 Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
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