[SEL] OHS gone mad

bill at antique-engines.com bill at antique-engines.com
Thu Dec 22 04:51:23 PST 2005


So how has this now suddenly digressed into guns on the SEL when there is
slick that has some very interesting threads on guns, gun ownership and
laws, etc.

WOW, I was hoping this mess was slowly being dropped - now it's gone to
guns and other things far above the original message/complaint.

Bill

> Hi guys,
>            I think Peter was refering more to the American judicial system
> and the way in which in some ways responability of ones actions
> has been removed by Governments, I'm the first to say Australia
> isnt immune and we all have stories of how people successfully
> sued and won for seemingly stupid amounts of money and won.
>
> That being said if people are genuine and have been injured I feel that
> they deserve compensation for it and I wish them all the best in getting
> it.
>
> Further those of you who still have the stigma attached to the brain that
> it is law that every engine compound has to be fenced and we dont have
> guns here I think you need to look a little closer.
>
> Ill explain...
>
> The fences around engine compounds, IS ONLY a "guideline" for the current
> policy of which over 8000 members of the National Historical Machinery
> Assocition are a member of.
>
> Point 1. No one is forcing anyone to be a member, and if you wanted to run
> a show in your back yard or any where and not be a member of the
> association thats fine no one will stop you.
>
> Point 2. As mentioned above this ruling is only a guideline to protect the
> insurance policy of the association that is getting close to $100,000 per
> year for coverage and for $13 a member for full coverage I think its a
> good wicket.
>
> The association would like you to follow the guide line and when your club
> signs up it is taken you will. However if you dont choose to follow it
> (and this is your right) and something happens ie an accident the policy
> will still pay out as itis broadform. The remifications beyond this is
> that the total policy could be withdrawn, the price goes up of the policy
> or the member club will be asked to leave the assoc.
>
> The association has done this (and as many companys now do) by placing
> guidelines in or in more complex terms a risk management policy you can
> effectively reduce the cost of your premium by reducing the upfront risk.
>
> And I know personally this is what Smorgans have done as one of the
> companys I now work for carts scrap into Smorgans almost on a daily basis,
> to them a 40% reduction in insurance premiums its worth someone looking
> like a total tool in a red jacket.
>
> And finally guns, my family has been a hunting family for well since they
> arrived here in the boat in 1788. My Mother was a state archery champion
> and because of me (she was pregnaut at the time with me) missed olympic
> final selection. My father has missed only 1 duck shooting season in 55
> years and my family has a swag of state and national clay trap shooters to
> be proud of and have our own personal clay trap and a line of goldern
> retreivers that are well know for there ability.
>
> My grandfather said to me when he taught me to shoot, "Adam if you miss on
> the second shot it deserves to live!" yes I am a gun owner and I have his
> remington left handed side be side.
>
> But what I cant understand is why in the state of Texas I would need to
> own an anti tank gun? or and M16 full auto can someone please explain this
> to me?
>
> Best wishes for the festive season,
>                                                  Adam
>
>
>
>
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