[SEL] re National Rally

Steve W. falcon at telenet.net
Tue Sep 14 22:00:25 PDT 2004


>From what I have read in the reports about the outfit,
I think NHMA must stand for National Handlers and Minders ASSociated, or
Never Handle Machinery Anyone.
Sure doesn't sound like any US groups except maybe GreenPeace or the
National Socialists Party.


Steve Williams
Near Cooperstown NY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Allen" <transteck at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] re National Rally


> Reg,
>
> You've stirred up a hornets nest and did well at it. Seems there are
> problems in your country that could easily cross the pond. I don't
know who
> you consider yourself unpopular with, but surely not I. From my
> understanding you are well respected on both sides of the pond, and
your
> work to make change is something I respect. Keep at it mate.
>
> I am too new at this or perhaps not informed as I am not from your
country,
> but exactly what is the NHMA? Is it a government entity or what? My
quick
> web search only pulled up an insane set of rules for loading and
unloading
> tractors.
>
> Now I think I'll go look for a rocket launching so I can watch from
right
> under the rocket. I've heard it's just the same as standing by an
engine
> inside the fence. Wonder if I need sunglasses.
>
> Don't give it up Reg.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Allen
> Arvada, Colorado USA
>
> http://oldengine.org/members/allen/
> http://frapa.us/
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Reg & Margaret Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] re National Rally
>
>
> > SEDITION!!@!!   The NHMA will shoot you for this !
> > "Do you realise that this attitude, nay, statement even, could
negate the
> > insurance for the whole event?? (Oh, woe is us!!  The sheep are
thinking
> > of
> > doing sneaky underhand things?)
> > Dont ever forget that my club tried to get me thrown out for
allowing a
> > blind man to come in and feel/see my models! No one ever asked if
they
> > were
> > running!!! Well, as things were, that never entered the argument.
Rules
> > are
> > rules, and dont you ever forget it!!
> > Common sense aint ever been a strong point with any ruling bodies.
You
> > know
> > that!
> > Here is another example to think on. If you are an exhibitor , your
wife
> > and
> > children who are with you at the event are NOT allowed to be with
you
> > inside
> > the wire! They have to have their own individual insurance to be in
> > there..
> > This sure changes things for a happy family weekend away!
> > Can you imagine what would happen to Portland, and similar US and UK
shows
> > if this were the case?
> > (Those of you who have never had the Portland experience cannot
realise
> > the
> > full impact of what I am saying.)
> > I know I stated I had said enough on this but, It is this direction
we are
> > following that is killing the hobby for a lot of people. How long
can you
> > go
> > to events with your family and have to leave and exclude them once
there?
> > The attitude of "But thats the rules" is why we are at this stage.
And it
> > wont get any better on the road we are following.
> > It will take a lot more effort and time to attempt to change things
than I
> > am capable of giving.
> > I dont want to make myself more unpopular than I already am for
being
> > outspoken on a subject I feel strongly on.
> > I dont attend anywhere near as many events as I used to.
> > There are events I show at, where I CAN invite people in to examine
> > things.
> > Where a simple rope or bunting IS acceptable. Where families sit
inside
> > the
> > rope under a canopy and enjoy a weekend away together.
> > These are the ones I give preference to. They are insured as well!
> > Having had this one last speak out, I shall not mention or comment
on it
> > again. My engine years left are now too few to fret over the way
things
> > are
> > going.
> > Subject closed as far as I am concerned. What will be, will be.
> > Reg & Marg Ingold.
> > Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> > randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: [SEL] re National Rally
> >
> >
> >> There are "THE RULES" and then there are 'the rules' (nudge, nudge,
wink,
> >> wink) and somewhere in between lies common sense.
> >>
> >> Patrick M Livingstone
> >
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