[SEL] re National Rally

Jeff Allen transteck at earthlink.net
Tue Sep 14 19:36:03 PDT 2004


Reg,

You've stirred up a hornets nest and did well at it. Seems there are 
problems in your country that could easily cross the pond. I don't know who 
you consider yourself unpopular with, but surely not I. From my 
understanding you are well respected on both sides of the pond, and your 
work to make change is something I respect. Keep at it mate.

I am too new at this or perhaps not informed as I am not from your country, 
but exactly what is the NHMA? Is it a government entity or what? My quick 
web search only pulled up an insane set of rules for loading and unloading 
tractors.

Now I think I'll go look for a rocket launching so I can watch from right 
under the rocket. I've heard it's just the same as standing by an engine 
inside the fence. Wonder if I need sunglasses.

Don't give it up Reg.

Regards,

Jeff Allen
Arvada, Colorado USA

http://oldengine.org/members/allen/
http://frapa.us/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reg & Margaret Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] re National Rally


> SEDITION!!@!!   The NHMA will shoot you for this !
> "Do you realise that this attitude, nay, statement even, could negate the
> insurance for the whole event?? (Oh, woe is us!!  The sheep are thinking 
> of
> doing sneaky underhand things?)
> Dont ever forget that my club tried to get me thrown out for allowing a
> blind man to come in and feel/see my models! No one ever asked if they 
> were
> running!!! Well, as things were, that never entered the argument. Rules 
> are
> rules, and dont you ever forget it!!
> Common sense aint ever been a strong point with any ruling bodies. You 
> know
> that!
> Here is another example to think on. If you are an exhibitor , your wife 
> and
> children who are with you at the event are NOT allowed to be with you 
> inside
> the wire! They have to have their own individual insurance to be in 
> there..
> This sure changes things for a happy family weekend away!
> Can you imagine what would happen to Portland, and similar US and UK shows
> if this were the case?
> (Those of you who have never had the Portland experience cannot realise 
> the
> full impact of what I am saying.)
> I know I stated I had said enough on this but, It is this direction we are
> following that is killing the hobby for a lot of people. How long can you 
> go
> to events with your family and have to leave and exclude them once there?
> The attitude of "But thats the rules" is why we are at this stage. And it
> wont get any better on the road we are following.
> It will take a lot more effort and time to attempt to change things than I
> am capable of giving.
> I dont want to make myself more unpopular than I already am for being
> outspoken on a subject I feel strongly on.
> I dont attend anywhere near as many events as I used to.
> There are events I show at, where I CAN invite people in to examine 
> things.
> Where a simple rope or bunting IS acceptable. Where families sit inside 
> the
> rope under a canopy and enjoy a weekend away together.
> These are the ones I give preference to. They are insured as well!
> Having had this one last speak out, I shall not mention or comment on it
> again. My engine years left are now too few to fret over the way things 
> are
> going.
> Subject closed as far as I am concerned. What will be, will be.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick M Livingstone" <pml1 at bigpond.net.au>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] re National Rally
>
>
>> There are "THE RULES" and then there are 'the rules' (nudge, nudge, wink,
>> wink) and somewhere in between lies common sense.
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>
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