[SEL] Nat Rally Reg's New Letter

Tue Sep 14 04:33:06 PDT 2004

Unfortunately if we want to attend shows we have to abide by the rules.
There are STUPID people ,take the example of the owner of that Case Steam
Traction engine in the US . It exploded and took out a lot of people. Just
think how many more fatalities there would have been if there had been a big
crowd around it in an unfenced compound . Yes i know that to make it safe
and escape the results of that explosion the fence would have had to be a
bloody long way back .I am sure we have all seen some STUPID things done in
engine compounds by members of the public and by members of our own
fraternity.
If following the rules set down by the NHMA allows me to show my engine and
enjoy the company of fellow enthusiasts and this means being behind a fence
so be it . Surely being able to sleep at night knowing that we have a good
insurance policy in the event of an accident is worth the perceived
inconvenience .Litigation is with us and trying to fight against it is like
pissing into the wind and could be expensive.I would prefer to enjoy the
hobby and not rage against the rules,lets face it is it a great problem? I
would also venture to say that some STUPID bastard would stand under the
launch pad if they could! I have no truck with insurance underwriters ,they
are a necessary evil in this day and age ....but show me the man who would
not lodge a claim  if he felt justified in doing so.$ 12 is not going to
send me broke.......so lets enjoy the hobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "chuck emsweller" <clemsweller at earthlink.net>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:33 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] Nat Rally Reg's New Letter


> Still sounds an awful lot like communism to me.  Were it that way in the
> states, I am afraid I wouldn't be attending any shows.  Which would mean
> that the general public would be the ones missing out on the engines
> that I display.  I would still have my engines at home for my enjoyment
> and would continue to run them at will without fence or special
> insurance.
>
> The sad part is, if we don't fight it now, I can see the US shows moving
> in that direction in the next few years.  All due to a bunch of
> do-gooders that think they know how to protect me and others better than
> we do ourselves. More bureaucratic BS if you ask me.
>
> As for Cape Canaveral, if I were STUPID enough to stand under the
> rockets to watch a launch, I guess I would deserve to be dead!  As for
> engines, I don't think it is the same.  It simply appalls me to think
> that our forefathers were so much more advanced than us that they could
> safely run these people killers without having to rope or fence them off
> or worry about insurance.  Yes, accidents will and do happen.  Let's
> deal with the problem of all the sue happy idiots out there instead of
> the symptom of some asshole attorney's and insurance rip offs stepping
> in and scaring us all away from our hobby!
>
> Gentlemen, get some courage and join Reg in the fight for your hobby.
> Reg, don't give up the battle as far as this Hoosier is concerned, you
> are on the right track!
>
> Chuck Emsweller
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of peter
> ogborne
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 6:01 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Nat Rally Reg's New Letter
>
> Perhaps if i spell it out in big letters Chuck or could we liken it to
> going
> to Cape Canaveral to watch a rocket launch....don't think you could
> stand in
> the launch pad with out insurance!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "chuck emsweller" <clemsweller at earthlink.net>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] Nat Rally Reg's New Letter
>
>
> > So, let me understand this properly.  You are trying to have an engine
> > show, but no one can enter unless they belong to your insurance or
> club?
> > Isn't that kind of an oxymoron?  Or have I missed something here?
> >
> > Chuck Emsweller
> > Bessemer
> > Fairbanks
> > Caille
> > Hercules
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Adam
> > Cottrill
> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:57 AM
> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > Subject: [SEL] Nat Rally Reg's New Letter
> >
> >
> > Hi Reg and everyone,
> >                    Mate again you have raised in a round about way a
> > point ANYPERSON WHO DOES NOT HAVE A NHMA CARD (or equivilent as
> descibed
> > before) WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE ENGINE COMPOUND.
> >
> > ANYPERSON could be wife, girlfirend, kids, mistress, Queen, African
> > Jungle Queen, Amazon beauty you get the idea. Please tell me this is
> > sinking in????? To get around this please get your companions either
> to
> > join a NHMA club, seek private insurance or request it from the NHMA
> > rally otherwise im sorry they cant go in. I dont understand how this
> is
> > difficult?
> >
> > You want your family to join you in the hobby join them to the NHMA I
> > have my girl friend joined so she can be in the compound with me.
> >
> > Reg again I strongly suggest you come to the Rally as the Insurance
> > Company will be present in a tent and you can tell talk to them
> directly
> > about your concerns.
> >
> > The National Committee has (and is currently) been pro-active and is
> in
> > discussions with the NHMA and Insurance company to change several
> things
> > to the policy as it stands now to make it more family friendly for and
> I
> > and im sure everyone else agrees family is a big part of the hobby.
> > While we wait the outcomes of this I cant say anymore.
> >
> > Im opening a can of worms here with about what im about to say but "If
> > common sense is so COMMON how come not everyone has it?" the flip side
> > is the insurance fences and all the other stuff we must have.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >             Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
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