> > > > Here is one that gets stale beer poured on it to > > > keep the moss growing: > > > > http://members.tznet.com/jprindle/alseconomy1.jpg > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > Nothing sucks > > > > like removing a bad, bad paint job. that copper tubing needs some patination as well , very unsightly some might even use the term "gay" Chuck