[SEL] OT - thanks to list for VW bolts etc.

[Bill Dickerson]

You mean like personal experience :-)

I had wondered that myself, thus I didn't go the drill route. Just too risky
to experiment on such a window.  
I plan on seeing about getting the adhesive from a nearby auto glass place
today and giving it a shot.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 11:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - thanks to list for VW bolts etc.


I wouldn't even try drilling that window.
It is tempered and will shatter almost instantly. Heck even a small chip on
the edge will turn one into scrap.

The stuff you want to glue it in is a urethane adhesive, looks like black
caulk.  If you were closer I'd give you a tube. It comes in handy for a LOT
of other things besides glass. Once it cures it is real tough stuff.  Just
make sure you DON"T get it on anything you don't want it on. It is a bear to
get out  of clothes, skin, hair.....  Don't ask.....

Steve Williams
Near Cooperstown NY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] OT - thanks to list for VW bolts etc.


> Thanks to Steve and others for the suggestion of hitting up an auto
glass
> shop for some windshield "adhesive".
> This one I see had been "repaired" before, but seeing how they did it
in the
> past, no shock it didn't last - they used blue silicone! Yikes! For
sure
> that won't hold for long.
>
> Got it all out and cleaned up good. Used mineral spirits to do some
"rough"
> cleaning, will fine tune that with alcohol.
>
> One thought I had years ago was to drill the channel and the glass and
use
> the tape again and use small machine screws through the whole shootin
match,
> but I'm unwilling to try that on a window that is very hard to find.
>
> I'll hit the shop up tomorrow for the adhesive.
> Not much room in this door to make the assembly with the parts in the
door,
> so I'll do as I've done so many times before, assemble, let it sit,
then put
> it back in the door as a unit. It's sat with no window in it for days 
> already, a few more hours won't hurt.
>
> Thanks again for the tips. Good to know a lot of been down this road
before!
> I thought it was just an AMC/Javelin thing, apparantly not.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 8:11 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - thanks to list for VW bolts etc.
>
>
> Use only a couple of pieces of the glass tape. Use windshield urethane
on
> the rest. A lot of vehicles from that time have about the same
problem. My
> Camaro and the Starfire are both that way. The glass channel gets
cleaned
> good, wiped with alcohol and then I put a couple small pieces of tape
on the
> ends (they act as a spacer and hold the glass while the urethane
cures). Let
> it set at least two hours before you move it much. I usually get
everything
> set up in the door and then set the glass, then roll it up tight, that
holds
> it in the proper position and then you just let it set. Done it that
way on
> at least 8 different restores and never had one come apart on it's
own.
>
> Patching a lens (if the lens can be separated or easily accessed). Use 
> play-doh or clay to form a mold for the missing area. Then mix up a
small
> amount of clear epoxy and pour it into the area. To make it match the
color
> of the lens use RID dye of the correct color added to the epoxy.
>
>
> Steve Williams
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 8:15 AM
> Subject: [SEL] OT - thanks to list for VW bolts etc.
>
>
> > Off topic, but once again the list has come through, at least in
part.
> > I now have all 4 wheels on the VW bunny held on with the 4 bolts the
> factory
> > engineers intended thanks to a list member. It might figure he'd
have
> parts
> > for such a vehicle as he also appreciates the other small iron such
as
> > Maytags. Still didn't find a tail light for the beast, but did get a 
> > great idea
> for
> > "patching" this one from the same list member.
> > I won't embarrass him by mentioning his name as some might think it
> sort of
> > goofy that anyone would hang on to the old VWs............ And
> appreciate
> > Maytags at the same time.
> >
> > Thanks r.c. aka m.t.
> >
> > Thanks to another list member for the links to auto parts places -
one
> of
> > which I used to order new wheel cylinders for the '69 Javelin. And
> thanks to
> > all the others for other links and locations. I'm filing for future 
> > reference. Looks like I have the job of fixing up this classic car.
> Anyone
> > have the "window brackets" that hold the glass in the left door?
These
> cars
> > had a design issue where the window glass parted ways with the
> brackets that
> > held the glass. In this case, the glass didn't only come out of the
> bracket,
> > but the bracket is actually BENT, and it's a "pot metal" sort of
> piece.
> >
> > In the old days, used to remove the old tape and adhesive and use
new
> window
> > glass tape to put the glass back into the bracket - anyone have
better
> ways
> > or ideas? You clean the glass and the bracket channel, put this
"tape"
> over
> > the edge of the glass and tap the bracket back into place. This
> special tape
> > is supposed to hold it together, but doesn't always. How do others
do
> it?
> > Any auto glass people here on list?
> >
> > I'm considering talking my brother into selling me the car - I'll
post
> pics
> > soon.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
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